Speaker 1: Brute force. If it doesn't work, you're just not using enough.
Speaker 1: You're listening to soft Rep Special ops news and information
Speaker 1: straight from the next Best and now here are your hosts,
Speaker 1: Brandon Webb, Jack Murphy and the rest of the boys
Speaker 1: ex soft soft Rep dot Com on time on target
Speaker 1: being Scato, Jason Delgado, what's going on in episode two?
Speaker 1: N I know man one away from the Big three double?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and when it happens, I've got um, I've
Speaker 1: got some original music done, which I just let you hear,
Speaker 1: very top gun esque, very patriotic, as you were saying, nice,
Speaker 1: I listen, I just heard it. I'm telling I'm telling
Speaker 1: everyone out there in podcast land listen up, guys. This
Speaker 1: is gonna be pretty freaking epic. And shout out to
Speaker 1: John Burns, who did an awesome job. I mean, you
Speaker 1: guys haven't heard it yet, so you'll hear next episode. Um.
Speaker 1: The first thing I wanted to say, actually is that
Speaker 1: the guys who backed the Big Mountain Heroes documentary, thanks
Speaker 1: for doing it. And I could personally say that we
Speaker 1: have you covered because I've been here all day, um
Speaker 1: working stuff out. We have admir who now runs the
Speaker 1: shipping department and between Create Club and you know, all
Speaker 1: the different tiers of Create Club and now sending out
Speaker 1: the people who have helped back Big Mountain Heroes on Kickstarter. Uh,
Speaker 1: He's taking care of everything. So if those guys ever
Speaker 1: say hey, we needed to ship something out, I'm always
Speaker 1: down to help out the team here and so those
Speaker 1: will be here soon. And thank you for waiting patiently
Speaker 1: anybody who had those rewards coming Um and Brandon and
Speaker 1: the rest of the crewer in the UK for the
Speaker 1: remembrance rumble where you were last. Yeah, man, and I
Speaker 1: know what they're going through. Man, it's it's it's nerve
Speaker 1: racking when you you know, because prior to that, we'll
Speaker 1: do a couple of days of training and you know,
Speaker 1: warming up, and then they'll do an event where you know,
Speaker 1: we'll go and we'll spall we'll practice for a little
Speaker 1: bit and they'll they'll match you up with someone of
Speaker 1: your you know, way class or similar to your way
Speaker 1: cuss which is I say similar because I don't know
Speaker 1: if you guys know this, but Brits are generally way
Speaker 1: taller and bigger than Americans. Dude, Like, actually, Phil is
Speaker 1: probably one of the shortest ones and he's probably like
Speaker 1: six one and yeah, he's six one, and he's probably
Speaker 1: a good three hundred pounds. Um, everyone else like Campion
Speaker 1: and and and the other guys man, they're like six
Speaker 1: ft five, six ft six, you know, two two and
Speaker 1: thirty pounds. So it's pretty intimidating, but we get it in.
Speaker 1: We scrap. You know, that's something about Americans that you know,
Speaker 1: we could look at, you know, the biggest opponent in
Speaker 1: front of us, and you know you won't see anything.
Speaker 1: So I know what they're going through and it's pretty tough.
Speaker 1: But they're gonna need your support because, let me tell you,
Speaker 1: we're on their home turf. We what don't know what happened.
Speaker 1: We tried to get him over here this year. I
Speaker 1: don't know if logistically we couldn't work it out over
Speaker 1: here in New York, which it's totally understandable. It's freaking
Speaker 1: New York. But um, they're in their hometown. So the
Speaker 1: crowd cheers their songs and all that. But our boys
Speaker 1: put in work. So support him. Go online. We're gonna
Speaker 1: do the live broadcast like we did last year. I'm
Speaker 1: sure to sure Rads on there. He's gonna be hosting
Speaker 1: super awesome host man, way energetic and just keep in
Speaker 1: track with us, you know, um log on, you know,
Speaker 1: if you haven't subscribe, you subscribe and go on to
Speaker 1: Facebook software on Facebook and you'll be able to see
Speaker 1: it live. Man, and hopefully we'll do something too. I
Speaker 1: don't know whatever we can do, but you guys gotta
Speaker 1: show support for our guys, right absolutely. Man, uh yeah,
Speaker 1: it must have been crazy going over there and doing that,
Speaker 1: especially you know, you're not you're not a boxer, you're
Speaker 1: a trained killer. But yeah, and man, it took it.
Speaker 1: I took it serious. I actually did. But I have
Speaker 1: very little time from when I committed to you know,
Speaker 1: when the fight was actually gonna happen. So I think
Speaker 1: literally I trained for three months in Afghanistan, and I
Speaker 1: was so fortunate that out in the contract that I
Speaker 1: was on, I had two guys I would damn near
Speaker 1: pro boxers that we're on the contract. You know, you
Speaker 1: just don't know you know whose walk of life. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know the guys that you were around and their
Speaker 1: walk of life, you know, because until you get down
Speaker 1: to and they'll see you in the gym, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to hit the bag and they're like, Bro, you're
Speaker 1: doing it all wrong. You know what. I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: let's show me next. You know, You're like, bro, you're
Speaker 1: like a boxing ninja. Teach me. So I was fortunate
Speaker 1: enough to have two awesome guys, super freaking psychotic, aggressive
Speaker 1: guys that just whooped my ass every day. Like I
Speaker 1: learned the hard way how to box, and it paid
Speaker 1: off because in three months I did a decent job.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say I did the greatest job in
Speaker 1: the world, considering I only trained for that small amount
Speaker 1: of time, but I didn't let us down, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? It felt great. So that being said,
Speaker 1: the guys I think that we have now it's all
Speaker 1: marine teams because that's what we do. We show up
Speaker 1: the marine courts on play everyone back down Navy seals
Speaker 1: that said of cats, and you know what funk that
Speaker 1: I'm calling y'all out. You know, this is like the
Speaker 1: second time in a row that the Marines are showed up.
Speaker 1: And you know, let me tell you, I'm not even
Speaker 1: talking about MARSK. I think I was the only one
Speaker 1: that was like considered Marsac because I, you know, got
Speaker 1: the fucking d D two fourteen and said, I was
Speaker 1: so calm and marsack whatever, but you know, I wasn't
Speaker 1: a raider, you know, and and everyone else was like,
Speaker 1: you know, freaking uh, you know, I think like one
Speaker 1: nine or something like that. And but the crazy part
Speaker 1: is we opened this invitation up to everyone. We put
Speaker 1: it on our websites. You know, I throw out the
Speaker 1: invitation out there, and you know, guys just you know,
Speaker 1: they don't want to come out. So the Marines, let
Speaker 1: me tell you, they're all four. They raise their hand
Speaker 1: real quick. Yeah, hell yeah, I'll go overseason fight, you know.
Speaker 1: So right now, this year we have an all Marine
Speaker 1: team and these guys are scrappers, they're fighters. So you
Speaker 1: can go onto the soft up right now. You'll see
Speaker 1: all the updates that they're throwing up. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of the guys that were out there
Speaker 1: last year. Check out their profiles, you know, check out
Speaker 1: the little clips that we put together that you can
Speaker 1: see their training and their boxing for it. And I
Speaker 1: think we're gonna have a really awesome showing out this year.
Speaker 1: Man definitely way better than last year. Um So, before
Speaker 1: we bring on Derek, I was gonna say, like the
Speaker 1: big pieces of news I guess or that the election results,
Speaker 1: which did swing very left. You know, I'm from Long
Speaker 1: Island and their parts of Long Island that went Democrat.
Speaker 1: That never do Um. I know rob Astorino in New
Speaker 1: York lost his election. Uh, former employee of serious he
Speaker 1: actually ran like a whole department. I heard he was
Speaker 1: one of the coolest guys to work under and as
Speaker 1: he's a Republican and said that he believes he lost
Speaker 1: because of the unpopularity of Trump. So I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's it's in the fish bowl of New York,
Speaker 1: you understand. So the unpopularity of Trump. You gotta understand
Speaker 1: New York is a democratic state. Yeah, you know, it
Speaker 1: couldn't have been worse. It couldn't have been worse. You
Speaker 1: have Bill de Blasio, Um, you know, you got Cuomo.
Speaker 1: On top of that, you have Hillary Clinton here, Um
Speaker 1: you know, you know, sticking her tentacles in it. Everything.
Speaker 1: So obviously, all the advertisement, all the ads, all the
Speaker 1: Facebook posts, everything that's targeted at New Yorker's minorities especially
Speaker 1: is pro democratic, anti Republican. So Republicans not going to
Speaker 1: have a freaking chance in hell to win anything in
Speaker 1: New York. As long as that keep in minded is
Speaker 1: New York City, because you know, sometimes I say the
Speaker 1: same thing you do, and I'll get emails from people
Speaker 1: who are upstate and they're like, hey, we're not like
Speaker 1: you guys, and I totally get it. And I totally
Speaker 1: get it. You're right outside of the Tri State area
Speaker 1: or outside of New York City or the Five Boroughs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's pretty much America. You know. They enjoy their gun laws,
Speaker 1: they enjoy their property, they enjoy their open fields. They
Speaker 1: you know, they're they're very relaxed. But within the Five Boroughs,
Speaker 1: the Five Boroughs are controlled as if it was a
Speaker 1: police state. You know. They don't want anyone running around
Speaker 1: with weapons defending themselves. I don't want no one eating
Speaker 1: too much sugar and you know, getting the super size McDonald's,
Speaker 1: you know, and they want to control every facet of
Speaker 1: you know. They're they're citizens lives, you know. So we're
Speaker 1: the ones who vote that in into office, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, We're the ones who vote that that
Speaker 1: regime in. So we can't really, we can't really complain.
Speaker 1: We have no room to complain. That's why the cigarette taxes,
Speaker 1: That's why a pack of Newports cost fourteen something over here.
Speaker 1: You know, it's because they're trying to tell us how
Speaker 1: we're supposed to live in nanny state. Nanny state exactly.
Speaker 1: I don't even want to say police. They don't say
Speaker 1: nanny state because I like the fact we've got a
Speaker 1: lot of cops here. I really do. It is true,
Speaker 1: even though I think there's predominantly people on the left too,
Speaker 1: when they go into like Penn station or any of
Speaker 1: the major stations in New York and they see cops
Speaker 1: with um, you know, a RS and like that, actually,
Speaker 1: what what you would know better than me? What gun do?
Speaker 1: They textically have force? Uh? Yeah. Some people will be
Speaker 1: like I don't like this, and I agree with you,
Speaker 1: like it's good that we have so force. Let him know,
Speaker 1: don't work around in New York. Yeah, hell yeah. Um.
Speaker 1: So we got that Trump is in China. The big
Speaker 1: quote that uh I see going around it and watch
Speaker 1: the whole speech or anything, but Trump saying on trade,
Speaker 1: I don't blame China. It's a weird juxtaposition because of
Speaker 1: the fact that like, China are technically our allies, So
Speaker 1: you gotta go over there, you gotta play nice, I guess.
Speaker 1: But they're they're not really a good friend. It's not
Speaker 1: that they're not a good friend. And I agree with
Speaker 1: what Trump said. They are responsible to their city and
Speaker 1: if they can get over wherever they can, they're going to.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you if you had a responsibility to your family,
Speaker 1: and in order to ensure their legacy and to make
Speaker 1: sure that they're getting the best side of every deal,
Speaker 1: You're gonna exploit whatever loopholes you can. That's just human nature.
Speaker 1: It's just you know, it's weird to me, is that Trump? Well, look,
Speaker 1: it is different when you're the president. I should say that.
Speaker 1: But he and on some very heated rhetoric about China
Speaker 1: as well as Saudi Arabia, and then I see him tweeting, um,
Speaker 1: you know that Saudi Arabia is getting the job done
Speaker 1: and I respect, you know, their dictator. On the same hand,
Speaker 1: he also said a lot of tough things to North
Speaker 1: Korea and still has. But yet he's not put he's
Speaker 1: not backing them into a corner. He's still giving them
Speaker 1: an option, the diplomatic option, telling them, you know, stop
Speaker 1: your nuclear weapons purchasing a nuclear weapons program, and let
Speaker 1: me tell you, we will give you aid, we will
Speaker 1: help you and he even us South Korea as an
Speaker 1: example of what we can do for their citizens. So
Speaker 1: all he's doing is holding up a meritor of the
Speaker 1: Republic of North Korea saying that, look, this is what
Speaker 1: your dictator is doing to you. He's keeping you, guys
Speaker 1: from moving into the next generation and being able to
Speaker 1: enjoy everything that the South Koreans enjoy, you know. So
Speaker 1: it's to me, it's him kind of taking on a
Speaker 1: more diplomatic approach. And when it comes to China, I've
Speaker 1: always heard him say everything he said about China, but
Speaker 1: to me, it wasn't derogatory. A matter of fact, they're
Speaker 1: very smart. He always said that. And what's funny is
Speaker 1: China's first response to Trump was not a negative one.
Speaker 1: And this is prior to him winning the election, almost
Speaker 1: as if they had the foresight enough to know that
Speaker 1: he was gonna win. They said, whatever we had to
Speaker 1: pay in order to do business, we will because that's
Speaker 1: just whatever the laws of the of that land or
Speaker 1: that business are gonna, you know, entail um. So they're
Speaker 1: willing to play ball. And they even said it before
Speaker 1: he was he was the president. So I think it's
Speaker 1: a mutual respect knowing and it's the same thing with
Speaker 1: the taxes and with Trump and his tax all his
Speaker 1: tax breaks. If there's a loophole there that he can expose,
Speaker 1: he's gonna expose. The man is a billionaire. He's about
Speaker 1: making money and making the best possible deal, you know,
Speaker 1: for him and his family. Now his family is the
Speaker 1: United States. He's gonna make the best possible deal for
Speaker 1: the United States, which means closing a lot of those loopholes. So,
Speaker 1: you know, we got to give the man a break.
Speaker 1: He's doing a good job. What about on Saudi Arabia,
Speaker 1: because I do think that's kind of interesting how he's
Speaker 1: writing tweets praising Saudi Arabia, And you know, it's an
Speaker 1: interesting thing. I know you've been on the podcast with
Speaker 1: Quint Emerson. It was a different podcast for Quint said it.
Speaker 1: So Quint's dad worked in the oil industry, so he
Speaker 1: grew up in Saudi Arabia, and he said, like growing
Speaker 1: up there and hating the culture, hating the way the
Speaker 1: people were there, it drove him to be a Navy
Speaker 1: seal because they treated him with with discontent and hatred.
Speaker 1: So when it comes to Saudi Arabia, I'm thinking Trump
Speaker 1: initially has ambitions of getting it back to where it
Speaker 1: was when they had the royal family running it, or
Speaker 1: their their version of the royal family running it. Maybe
Speaker 1: he has something, you know, working. You know, you gotta
Speaker 1: give him the benefit of the doubt. We don't know everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's an interesting thing though, because yes, they're an ally
Speaker 1: and they you know, we're very much having allegiance with
Speaker 1: them due to the oil situation. But they are in
Speaker 1: Islamic theocracy like every other hands down. But like I said,
Speaker 1: we don't know everything yet, so let's see what he
Speaker 1: has cooking up. Maybe he does, because I'm giving him
Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt. This man is actually he's
Speaker 1: pretty smart. He's pretty smart. The things he says, you know,
Speaker 1: it's more they're more forthtelling than they are indicative of
Speaker 1: what's currently happening. You understand what I'm saying, Like I
Speaker 1: think he has. He definitely has a lot of foresight.
Speaker 1: So maybe he's, you know, through the words alone, he's
Speaker 1: trying to get some type of favor over there and
Speaker 1: maybe get them to open up to us and let
Speaker 1: us get in there a little bit more. But we'll see.
Speaker 1: It's it's also safe to say you know, kind of
Speaker 1: like how I mentioned in the last episode, he's got
Speaker 1: and and look, I've been very critical Trump, but he's
Speaker 1: got some great people working with him, I e. General Maddis.
Speaker 1: So I hope that General Maddis is one of those
Speaker 1: guys who are telling him what to do. And I
Speaker 1: hope he's taking their advice. You know, That's all I
Speaker 1: can say because so far, like you know, when it
Speaker 1: comes to uh, what we have seen so far, he's
Speaker 1: fired a lot of campaign managers, you know, and it
Speaker 1: might be just a matter of them not being able
Speaker 1: to produce what he's expecting them to produce, or that
Speaker 1: they're constantly trying to tell him what to say or do.
Speaker 1: So it might not be the case considering he still
Speaker 1: has you know, his cabinet. But you know, I'm just
Speaker 1: like I said, I'm giving him the benefit of doubt.
Speaker 1: So far, I'm seeing great growth in our economy, super
Speaker 1: growth in our economy that I credit him for that
Speaker 1: of course, because like I said, when when other nations
Speaker 1: see that there's a businessman in charge of our nation
Speaker 1: and he's setting forth laws as far as or trying
Speaker 1: to set forth um, you know, tax codes to benefit
Speaker 1: you know, the country and a hole and also put
Speaker 1: money in in you know, the you know, lower income classes.
Speaker 1: You know, that's gonna all help because it's gonna keep
Speaker 1: money within our economies and and also give tax breaks
Speaker 1: to a lot of these companies to stay within the US. Obviously,
Speaker 1: that's gonna grow more jobs. It's gonna bring more production
Speaker 1: to the to the West. It's inevitable. So people are
Speaker 1: having that confidence in our market now to put their
Speaker 1: money in the market again. Um, housing went up again.
Speaker 1: You know, hopefully it's not one another on those bubbles,
Speaker 1: but housing went up again. And now they're saying that,
Speaker 1: you know, millennials are actually purchasing a lot of homes nowadays.
Speaker 1: And I believe it. I totally believe because I think
Speaker 1: it's no brainer. Why would you pay uh twenty four
Speaker 1: hundred dollars for a two bedroom apartment in uh, you know,
Speaker 1: eighty six street on Broadway when you can uh, you know,
Speaker 1: mortgage a house for twelve dred bucks somewhere in Atlanta
Speaker 1: that's five thousand square feet, you know, four bedrooms. Even
Speaker 1: though it makes sense, I don't know your situation. I'm
Speaker 1: still no I'm saying, our family owns our home so,
Speaker 1: and we've owned it for over fifteen sixteen years. It's
Speaker 1: a multifamily house. We have property to have a backgroud.
Speaker 1: I gotta pull in my background. I think I want
Speaker 1: the only families in the Bronx with a pool. I'm
Speaker 1: quite know, but we bust our asks for it, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And our equity alone, it's just
Speaker 1: like damn near, you know, I want to say, went
Speaker 1: up over in the last what fifteen years? That's great
Speaker 1: for us. You know, Hey, I do have a barbecue though,
Speaker 1: which neither Jack or Brandon could say they have got
Speaker 1: being on Long Island. But I got one in my
Speaker 1: front yard and one in my backyard because we don't
Speaker 1: like dragging it around. That's man, you know, because people
Speaker 1: who listen to the podcast who don't come to New York,
Speaker 1: they always assume that the same as yeah, and and
Speaker 1: they're like, you live in New York, how do you
Speaker 1: own a gun? Because I've mentioned that in a a podcast
Speaker 1: like Long Island is not the same as up until
Speaker 1: Sandy Hook, you could own an a are in New York.
Speaker 1: So even in Connecticut as well. Connecticut is affected by
Speaker 1: a lot. I mean, that was that was Sandy Hook
Speaker 1: of Connecticut is affected by a lot of here as
Speaker 1: well because comes Sandy Hook. While you was a business
Speaker 1: owner in Connecticut, which I was affected by this, you
Speaker 1: were able to apply for your COSO weapons license and
Speaker 1: not be a resident. But since Sandy Hook happened, you
Speaker 1: have to be a resident of Connecticut to apply for
Speaker 1: a concealed weapon size and not just a business owner.
Speaker 1: So if you're a business owner in Connecticut and not
Speaker 1: a resident, you're kind of screwed, you know, making your
Speaker 1: cash deposits at night, which you know some areas in
Speaker 1: Connecticut are pretty gangster. You want to hear a crazy
Speaker 1: Connecticut law that I'm not sure you know about that
Speaker 1: affected us. Um did you hear about it? With the
Speaker 1: the shield that you have for the backpack? The ballistic
Speaker 1: insert So yeah, we got those ballistic inserts for the
Speaker 1: Create Club. For Premium Create Club, we're able to send
Speaker 1: them to forty nine states. Connecticut has some law that
Speaker 1: you can't sell Um, yeah, you can't sell body armor,
Speaker 1: and so we had to send those people in the
Speaker 1: Premium Create Club, uh something else. We sent them a
Speaker 1: go bag, you know, which was also cool, but like
Speaker 1: what a stupid state law why what, like, what are
Speaker 1: you gonna do with that other than protect yourself from
Speaker 1: the bad guys. I don't think you understand that some
Speaker 1: areas in Connecticut that the murders are almost a daily thing.
Speaker 1: It's pretty bad. The crack epidemic is still pretty serious
Speaker 1: over there. They still have these crazy housing projects over
Speaker 1: there where it's just like impossible to get in. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, I I think that's the reason to have
Speaker 1: it though, And you're an innocent woman on the train
Speaker 1: or think, what the what the police are trying to
Speaker 1: do is keep it out the hands of those guys.
Speaker 1: There's a there's a big, big illegal weapons thing, you know,
Speaker 1: when it comes to all those you know, gang bangers
Speaker 1: and those hustlers out there. Like it's serious out there.
Speaker 1: Connecticut is like a mini Chicago. Yeah, but I put
Speaker 1: it in the same category of the only thing that
Speaker 1: stops a bad guy with a gun is a good
Speaker 1: guy exactly. I don't think the bad guys are going
Speaker 1: to follow the rule the walls for body armor, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I mean that they're gonna follow any laws they decided
Speaker 1: they already committed to a life of crime. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that, bro, believe. I think it's retarded,
Speaker 1: but you know, you want to justify it. I guess
Speaker 1: you know the liberal they called it the Constitution state too.
Speaker 1: That's what I'd find it funny. You know, I have
Speaker 1: to show you this. I referenced it on a podcast
Speaker 1: with Brandon. But my friend Raphael, who's photographer, he's it's
Speaker 1: done photography, photography for me, but you would know this
Speaker 1: brand doesn't even know who I'm referring to. He's actually
Speaker 1: DJ who kids photographer. So he got um interviewed by
Speaker 1: Info Wars in the streets in New York City and
Speaker 1: he's like a big conspiracy guy. So he's so excited
Speaker 1: about it, and some dude jumps in his shot and
Speaker 1: my friend Raphael like he was ready to like beat
Speaker 1: this dude's ass. So I was showing it to Brandon
Speaker 1: and he was like, you know, if that were to
Speaker 1: happen to me, I have UM. He's just got certain
Speaker 1: things on him, you know, including pepper, Like I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's pepper spray, has got different things. He's like, yo,
Speaker 1: you shove this down some guy's nose Like they're done.
Speaker 1: So it's like, we gotta send this out in Crate Club,
Speaker 1: and it was making me wonder like can we send
Speaker 1: this sleek and we need to open these states, and
Speaker 1: he's like, I don't know, Like if we can, why not?
Speaker 1: But I think I think pepper spray is one of
Speaker 1: those things that you can't legally purchase anywhere, especially for
Speaker 1: women's defense. You know what I'm saying? If we can,
Speaker 1: I say, I see it our key chains a lot everywhere,
Speaker 1: so I think it's legal. It's pretty much legal. I
Speaker 1: say it's a good create. Maybe some of our listeners,
Speaker 1: could you know, fill us in on that mean? Is it?
Speaker 1: I don't I don't feel like googling guys, soft up
Speaker 1: dot radio, soft rep dot com. With that, Let's bring
Speaker 1: on Derek Gannon. Hello, please state your name after the
Speaker 1: tone and Google Voice will try to connect you. WHOA,
Speaker 1: that was loud soft rap, Hello, Derek, jesus can you
Speaker 1: hear me? Yes? Weekend? That was funny, man. Where the
Speaker 1: thing where to state your name was like earned, it
Speaker 1: was super loud. It was like, what is this anyway?
Speaker 1: I'm here with Jason. How's everything going? Other than Skype
Speaker 1: being a giant piece of ship. I'm doing pretty good,
Speaker 1: all right. I think we're good to go, man, I'll
Speaker 1: give you an intern. You got some scotch with you something.
Speaker 1: You gotta relax. Relax, I'm mad mad you'll let you
Speaker 1: want to punch Skype in the face. We got to
Speaker 1: keep that. I have to keep it in here, you
Speaker 1: know what. I usually don't keep this stuff in audience,
Speaker 1: but we're keeping that in So yeah, I'm sorry. No,
Speaker 1: We're never live, but we're gonna. But I'm gonna keep
Speaker 1: it in there because it's funny. I like the Fox guy.
Speaker 1: We gotta use that. So anyway, well, technically it's my fault.
Speaker 1: It's my fault. I don't use Windows. They use Linux,
Speaker 1: so I'm sure that's my fault somewhere. All good man.
Speaker 1: So joining us is Green Beret writer for soft Rep
Speaker 1: Derek Gannon, who you can follow on Twitter at Derek
Speaker 1: Gannon seem six. Uh Man, there's a whole lot of
Speaker 1: stuff to get into. Uh you know, I see this
Speaker 1: petition that you did now is eighty eight thousand signatures,
Speaker 1: So I think we'll get into that later. But the
Speaker 1: first thing is that you really broke the story on
Speaker 1: the Green Beret is killed in Niger and and what
Speaker 1: really went down before the rest of the mainstream media,
Speaker 1: and I should say has kind of been a victim
Speaker 1: of when we had the paywall of not having his
Speaker 1: episodes for everyone to here. So this is the first
Speaker 1: time in a while we're doing like a full episode
Speaker 1: with Derek Um. So good to have you on here, man,
Speaker 1: and thanks, thank for having and well deserved Derek, because
Speaker 1: I love your writing, bro. Your writing is like no, Bro,
Speaker 1: it's super informative. Like when I read your ship, it's
Speaker 1: really really, really informative, man, Like I learned a lot
Speaker 1: from your writing. Well that ship. God damn well, thanks man,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Stop blushing, Come on, cut it out.
Speaker 1: I'm a little I'm a little blushing on that one thing.
Speaker 1: Are you naked? I know, I know you're right. I
Speaker 1: know you're right naked and stuff, and you're like the
Speaker 1: office chair. So are you naked right now? I have well,
Speaker 1: I put I don't like sweating in a leather seat,
Speaker 1: so I put on some underwear. I don't like. It's
Speaker 1: like that Alex. I like, but I mentioned where it's
Speaker 1: like I didn't become an internet writer to wear it
Speaker 1: paying So before we get into the details, I didn't. Actually,
Speaker 1: he's crazy. I didn't get the write anywhere. Dude. Before
Speaker 1: we get into the details of of the Africa situation,
Speaker 1: I kind of I've heard I've heard stories from when
Speaker 1: you broke that story that I want to say. D
Speaker 1: O J came to the table and offered you guys
Speaker 1: press credits. No, who's saying that? I who said that?
Speaker 1: Uh No, it wasn't Department of Defense or excuse me,
Speaker 1: not department. It was actually no one. The people that
Speaker 1: were approaching, at least me and the team at soft
Speaker 1: report who the who the first? Who the hell are you?
Speaker 1: And second? How did you get this information? And then
Speaker 1: my favorite that is, once we told him the first
Speaker 1: and second orders, the third one was do you hate
Speaker 1: the army? That was the most amazing question. Who the hell? Uh? Oh?
Speaker 1: Actually was a public affairs officer. Um, he's a good
Speaker 1: guy though he just I think I think software has
Speaker 1: been as blindsided special Operations Command on a few things. Um.
Speaker 1: And then the jare thing I'm not talking ship well
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit. Well the articles in and the
Speaker 1: teamwork that we did with breaking then jar story kind
Speaker 1: of untimately, Um, they couldn't they couldn't push this into
Speaker 1: the whole gunnut blogger realm anymore. We kind of kind
Speaker 1: of punched that one in the face, and even the
Speaker 1: mainstream media started picking up on a lot of the
Speaker 1: reporting that we were doing over at softwarep SO. I
Speaker 1: think the I think the Public Affairs officers and Special
Speaker 1: Operations Command and the and other commands are kind of
Speaker 1: they're like, oh shit, Uh, there's a bunch of veterans,
Speaker 1: soft veterans that actually understand the operations, uh, mission sets
Speaker 1: and capabilities. And now they're they're they're freaking journalists. Now
Speaker 1: we're writing about And I think that and and still
Speaker 1: have active, retired and very actively active community members that
Speaker 1: that that are that that kind of guests talked to us.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say that they're ratting anything. They're not ratting
Speaker 1: where they're talking to us. The interesting thing is that
Speaker 1: I think I believe the community, uh the community special
Speaker 1: operations better in the active duty community is pretty fickle.
Speaker 1: When it comes to a soft rep one story. They
Speaker 1: could absolutely love you for a couple of days, and
Speaker 1: then you you drop another one about you know, two
Speaker 1: Navy seals possibly the death, they hate you again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we'll get into that in a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I do want to get into that story, um,
Speaker 1: with the Green Beret is killed in Niger. One of
Speaker 1: the interesting things, um that I thought was the mainstream media,
Speaker 1: and actually Jason follows a lot more mainstream media than
Speaker 1: I do. But I think you can back me up
Speaker 1: and this you can correct me if I'm wrong. They
Speaker 1: most ignored that entire story until Trump spoke to one
Speaker 1: of the mothers or widows, right, and then that became
Speaker 1: the big story over why these Green Berets were actually
Speaker 1: killed that you know, isn't that messed up? Because he
Speaker 1: was criticized on how he offered his condolences to the
Speaker 1: widow and what's the more important story killed or how
Speaker 1: Trump spoke to a widow exactly? And then it's just
Speaker 1: the freaking liberal media and that's that's how they're going
Speaker 1: to spin every freaking story, you know, and they kind
Speaker 1: of overshine there the reality of the situation. The there
Speaker 1: is no middle ground anywhere in politics or in the media.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm willing to admit that even software
Speaker 1: reporting on the incident was a holistically ignored by the
Speaker 1: mainstream to include the Pentagon Press Press Corps, uh, mainly
Speaker 1: because the Pentagon attention to independent journalism. Plus they are
Speaker 1: already set up a cover your ass type of scenario
Speaker 1: that we were desperately trying to get ahead of. But
Speaker 1: the problem is is as soon the problem is the
Speaker 1: problem is as soon as Americans realize that there was Americans,
Speaker 1: American soldiers in Africa in a place they can't they
Speaker 1: don't even know where it is on the map, and alone,
Speaker 1: how they can pronounce it. You don't know how a clue. Guys,
Speaker 1: how many people I've told it's Niger not Nigeria. You
Speaker 1: can say either right or it's Niger. I'd like to
Speaker 1: throw the French on it, because you know it's it's
Speaker 1: the French Africa, so Niger. You know it's like but
Speaker 1: I even was like posting up. I wrote an outfit
Speaker 1: about some stuff, you know, like the the NFL protests
Speaker 1: that the Vice President and the White House decided to
Speaker 1: spend two or two thousand dollars on at the NFL.
Speaker 1: That was day six of the White House, completely ignoring
Speaker 1: the fact that four Special Operations soldiers and killed, with
Speaker 1: one of them missing for two hours or for two
Speaker 1: days by missing a chick. Instead, they went for the NFL.
Speaker 1: And my point was, it's now day six, is now
Speaker 1: day three, it's now day two, it's now day one,
Speaker 1: it's now day you know all these there's no word
Speaker 1: from the White House. And as soon as the story caught,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, gotten that we've been in Africa
Speaker 1: for two decades and the majority of the build up
Speaker 1: came from Alabama, administration completely went after the Trump administration,
Speaker 1: and I did as well. I found it very interesting
Speaker 1: at the day that that La David Johnson's body was
Speaker 1: actually found, Trump and a a Air Force veteran, Lindsay Graham,
Speaker 1: went to go play thirty six rounds of golf and
Speaker 1: instead of doing anything. Now, now, the way you handled it, guys,
Speaker 1: I don't give a ship what you say. It was
Speaker 1: absolute garbage. It was the blame game. But what the
Speaker 1: media did was turned it into a political fucking football,
Speaker 1: politicized veterans and then inadvertently tried to politicize uh, the
Speaker 1: Special Forces, Green Beret community and Green Beret Team itself
Speaker 1: as some untrained, you know, infantile, you know, babe left
Speaker 1: out in the woods with no support and therefore you
Speaker 1: know this, this is this Trump's fault. I have no
Speaker 1: clue how people get to that but the mainstream media
Speaker 1: hasn't been watching Africa at all, and definitely hasn't been
Speaker 1: watching US involvement in military involvement in Africa. So when
Speaker 1: they are presented with this, this amazing story like Nagier,
Speaker 1: where you have fifty plus I isis isis in the
Speaker 1: Greater is a Greater Sahara, this new terrorist organization UH
Speaker 1: basically lay in waste to an SF team in their
Speaker 1: thirty indigenous host nation forces. The only thing that they
Speaker 1: know about is to grasp at the political political football straws,
Speaker 1: which is veterans and Donald Trump my opinion. See, that's
Speaker 1: all we are. We're all opinion eated here. But go on,
Speaker 1: I want to hear it. No, that's my opinion. So
Speaker 1: I think the mainstream media. I think the mainstream media
Speaker 1: without any knowledge whatsoever of US operations outside of the
Speaker 1: two named named places that most Americans have completely ignored
Speaker 1: for sixteen years, Iraq and Afghanistan, it blows their minds.
Speaker 1: And then you've got guys like Nick Hurs, who spent
Speaker 1: his life creating a shadowy world of Special Forces basically
Speaker 1: given people Columbia neckties. Now, if you don't want to
Speaker 1: Columbia necktie is It's basically you walk up behind someone,
Speaker 1: cut their throat from ear to ear, and you pull
Speaker 1: their tongue out slot. That's called a Columbia necktie. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know we're not doing that. And there really isn't
Speaker 1: a shadow war there. It's just it's just it's Africa,
Speaker 1: and most first worlders don't really pay attention to a
Speaker 1: world that they still consider people running around in loincloths
Speaker 1: and speaking a different language. Do they look at Africa.
Speaker 1: Let's get into some details, um, and from what I know,
Speaker 1: and you can fill in, you know, help me out here,
Speaker 1: because I was just as ignorant as I guess, you know,
Speaker 1: the right the rest of the population. So from what
Speaker 1: I understand is, once Obama defunded the war on terrorist
Speaker 1: should I say back in, he didn't really take that
Speaker 1: budget and reinserted into our economy. He actually just iftated
Speaker 1: from Afghanistan to Africa. And from there we start establishing,
Speaker 1: you know, special forces relationship with all of uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the other forces in Africa, putting them together. And from
Speaker 1: what I understand it, it's been going on this two
Speaker 1: thousand and fourteen that special opera or special forces have
Speaker 1: been over their training up the Chadanians, and I need
Speaker 1: the forces of Niger and other obviously other um Sub
Speaker 1: Saharan or Greater Saharan forces. So you know, correct me
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, am I somewhere in the area of
Speaker 1: the ballpark. Let's get ready to ride. You've got a
Speaker 1: good grip a trip, Let's do it. The United States
Speaker 1: screen berets have been in the continent and in countries
Speaker 1: of Africa since nineteen sixty seven. The United States has
Speaker 1: had Special Forces in Africa since nineteen active Special Forces
Speaker 1: joint operations in Africa since nineteen seventies seven, So we've
Speaker 1: been there for a very very very long time. Now,
Speaker 1: Who the who the hell besides someone like me who
Speaker 1: thinks who thinks reading books on Kindle is more important
Speaker 1: than actually owning them? Is that in the early eighties,
Speaker 1: Africa and continent, especially West Africa and UH portions of
Speaker 1: the North portion UH, we're being wholesale parsed out by
Speaker 1: the Big Five because Africa used to be owned by
Speaker 1: the French, the English, the Americans, the Germans, everybody kind
Speaker 1: of just peeled off what they wanted from the continent
Speaker 1: of Africa. And of course, when after World War two
Speaker 1: that collapsed. So let's fast forward to at least the
Speaker 1: twentieth century. Let's get into there. So in the eighties
Speaker 1: and nineties, there was a lot of Special Operations activities
Speaker 1: going on in Africa, some of them were clandestine proxies. Uh.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of huge Soviet influence in in
Speaker 1: Africa back in early in during the Cold War, specifically
Speaker 1: in Angola, Sudan before it was split. A lot of
Speaker 1: these places still harbor and maintain a lot of working
Speaker 1: relationships with both China and Russia, and those countries brought
Speaker 1: in the air special operations were not the only country
Speaker 1: that has special operations and started to rebuild the economy.
Speaker 1: Close to the nineties. Uh, you know, early nineties we
Speaker 1: had Desit Storm one, so everybody started focusing on the
Speaker 1: Middle East and everyone and almost all countries really actually
Speaker 1: enjoyed the fact that nobody was really paying attention to Africa.
Speaker 1: So let's fast forward again into the two into the
Speaker 1: early two thousands, and you had mentioned ten. The third
Speaker 1: Special Forces Group that that's was. This was the group
Speaker 1: of the group that the special these Green Berets were
Speaker 1: assigned to in the Jair Third Special Forces Groups area
Speaker 1: of operations or where they work at has always been
Speaker 1: sub Sahara Africa. It's always been West Africa, chad Uh,
Speaker 1: the d r C which is the Democratic, the the
Speaker 1: Congo Uh, you know, Tanzani, all these other places. It's
Speaker 1: stays been sparsed out. So let's get into so early
Speaker 1: two thousand one. We all know that nine eleven, what
Speaker 1: happened in nine eleven, Africa was still going on. There
Speaker 1: was a lot of genocidal issues, a lot of tribal
Speaker 1: and clan conflicts, but it really wasn't organized terrorism as
Speaker 1: of yet. So everyone started focusing on the Authorized Use
Speaker 1: of Military Force on Terrorists Organizations. That was written eighteen
Speaker 1: September two thousand one, a couple of days, literally, a
Speaker 1: couple of days after No eleven, the President Bush put
Speaker 1: this into into power, which gave it. It gave the
Speaker 1: United States the Patriot Act and a blanket global war
Speaker 1: on terror, on active terrorists organizations known as al Qaeda.
Speaker 1: This kicked us off into the Iran excuse, not the
Speaker 1: Iran thing that's later, that's in a couple of years,
Speaker 1: the Iraq War and Afghanistan. After Afghanistan's October seventh was
Speaker 1: America's response to No. Eleven Fifth Special Forces Group Green
Speaker 1: Berets going to Afghanistan. Seven of those teams having no
Speaker 1: little to no combat experience in the modern in the
Speaker 1: modern world, took over the country in eight weeks. So
Speaker 1: let's focus on Afghanistan. Afghanistan then became Operation Enduring Freedom, right,
Speaker 1: and this is a part of the Global War on
Speaker 1: Terror author authorized by the a u MM In we've
Speaker 1: been at war for a while and Afghanistan was grinding
Speaker 1: down in the United States governmental process, along with the
Speaker 1: mainstream media, has holistically pushed Afghanistan and Iraq out of
Speaker 1: out of the mainstream media and away from American eyes.
Speaker 1: And that war still continues. But the biggest thing that
Speaker 1: Obama administration wanted to do on their second run was
Speaker 1: to get us out of Afghanistan and both wars. Actually
Speaker 1: so in the official announcement came in in excuse me,
Speaker 1: the the backup official announce from of that of that
Speaker 1: draw down came. If you guys remember by twenties, what
Speaker 1: what the plan was was, they were going to shut
Speaker 1: down the the Operation and Enduring Freedom battle areas, right,
Speaker 1: they were now going to actually turn it into somewhat
Speaker 1: of like what I like to call a nineteen that
Speaker 1: the reimagining of the hearts and minds when they start
Speaker 1: ending in uh support the town to train. Are you
Speaker 1: guys good? Yeah? Come on, man about me sorright? So
Speaker 1: that ship was going down. So in o e F,
Speaker 1: the funding and the troop count and o EF needed
Speaker 1: to go somewhere. And two thousand seven two thousand eight,
Speaker 1: al Shabab and Islamic states started getting really hot and
Speaker 1: heavy in Africa, especially Horn of Africa and North Africa
Speaker 1: with the Libya, bit and Ghazi and Serte. So there
Speaker 1: was a lot of movement, a lot of these guys
Speaker 1: in Afghanistan and Iraq that fought the Americans during the
Speaker 1: Operation Iraqi Freedom in operation and during Freedom we're going home.
Speaker 1: They're going back to Somalia, Etia, Tanzania, you get the point, Chad,
Speaker 1: Niger and Nigeria, all these other places and starting up
Speaker 1: their own home grown terrorist organization. So the Special Operations
Speaker 1: community had to shift and they needed the money too.
Speaker 1: So when they shut down o e F Afghanistan, they
Speaker 1: all they did was brief flag Operation Enduring Freedom Afghanistan
Speaker 1: to operation and then during Freedom trans Sahara, So they
Speaker 1: just basically moved the Global War on Terror under the
Speaker 1: a u m F that was signed eighteen eighteen September
Speaker 1: two thousand one, they added the Islamic State to it.
Speaker 1: They didn't attend it, they just added the Islamic State
Speaker 1: to it because the a U m F is basically
Speaker 1: was for the Taliban and al Qaida. And then they
Speaker 1: transferred that funds, the troop count and equipment count to
Speaker 1: mainly Horn of Africa, East Africa to include Chad, and
Speaker 1: then the special forces that were their tenth Group took
Speaker 1: over for Third Group because Third Group owned Afghanistan exclusively.
Speaker 1: So once Afghanistan shut down and they transferred their mom
Speaker 1: the Third Group went back to take over Africa, their
Speaker 1: original area of responsibility away from tenth Group that was
Speaker 1: that was more within one ran from Derek and the
Speaker 1: mainstream media has covered Africa in how many years? Mab
Speaker 1: to do this on headline news and they just kept
Speaker 1: cutting like tell me how much you don't like Trump.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not gonna do Yeah, dude, you're taking
Speaker 1: me to school right now. Bro, you are taking me
Speaker 1: to school right now. And I love it. No, I do.
Speaker 1: We So we're caught up now. So this this is
Speaker 1: so now we're caught up. So now you guys know,
Speaker 1: if if you've read any of my work, yes, I
Speaker 1: jam I moved away from West Africa because Moktar Bell
Speaker 1: mocktr is actually Ian, if you remember, is the reason
Speaker 1: why I actually found soft Reap was hunting this guy
Speaker 1: and I was writing up. Really, if you go back, Jason,
Speaker 1: you'll realize that my writing has progressed. I used to
Speaker 1: write Intel briefings, but I was doing a lot of
Speaker 1: the research on mocked Our Bell mock Tar, which we
Speaker 1: can get into later when we when we cut a
Speaker 1: deep dive the the ambush, and I focus a lot
Speaker 1: on West Africa and now kind of in Makreb terror networks.
Speaker 1: But then Al Shabab showed up in two thousand seven
Speaker 1: and just went to it new gucci terrorist organization, very young,
Speaker 1: very young group, very violent, very ultra violent, hates these
Speaker 1: Blambic state and it's African African Caliphate nationalists, centrists. They're
Speaker 1: all Stileafists, which is a you know, that apocalyptic view
Speaker 1: of Sharia law like radical Islamic you know, religion. So
Speaker 1: you know that money that the Obama administration has had
Speaker 1: a lotted started putting in drone bases in in Niama,
Speaker 1: for example, Nager, the capital of Niger, for example, UH, Morocco, Algeria, Beni,
Speaker 1: Chad became the central point of Africa, and Chad is
Speaker 1: actually one of our fund terrorism terror you know, counter
Speaker 1: terrorisms UH supporters and allies in the African country, the
Speaker 1: continent of Africa, so that'd be kind of came the
Speaker 1: focal point for the US in UK and French special
Speaker 1: operations was was Agadez and and in Jamina and Chad
Speaker 1: where the French have been running in operation since actually
Speaker 1: ason called Operation Barkhani, which was designed to the French
Speaker 1: Foreign Legion, French Special Forces along with the Algerian UH.
Speaker 1: I want I'm gonna say g RS, but it doesn't
Speaker 1: mean the g RS that we know Algerian g RS
Speaker 1: and Intel agencies to push out about out of the hell,
Speaker 1: the sa hell or the or the Saharan desert, the
Speaker 1: sub Saharan desert. Step who's stt e P. Who's that
Speaker 1: STEP International? Oh Um, they're an independent STEP internationals, an
Speaker 1: independent UH threat mitigation kind of like think tank. You
Speaker 1: gotta pay for their their analysis. But there's there's there's
Speaker 1: spot on. I think that's I think that's what you're
Speaker 1: talking yea. So from what I understand, it was the
Speaker 1: I don't want to say Nigerians and how do you
Speaker 1: do what do you call that? The people of niger
Speaker 1: Nigerian Nigerians, not Nigerians needs ca Arians. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure, like I don't want to throw
Speaker 1: in what you know, did you see South Park? Did
Speaker 1: you guys see South Park the other night though? Because
Speaker 1: they they they talked about the whole Nigerian thing, and
Speaker 1: they threw in like you know, what could sound like
Speaker 1: a racial slur, like they're they're playing on that whole thing.
Speaker 1: It was. It was actually very honestly, that's that's just
Speaker 1: the liberal media trying to downplay the situation. But come on, dude,
Speaker 1: I consider South Park more right leaning than anything. You're right,
Speaker 1: they get they let everybody get it. They don't give that,
Speaker 1: let everybody get They're an equal opportunity. I don't even
Speaker 1: think they have a political leaning. So the Chadanians and
Speaker 1: the Nigerians they actually worked and joint ambush and then
Speaker 1: joint for joint forces to actually go after some of
Speaker 1: the heads of BOLCA Haram, right am? I correct? Hell yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: so let's break into that. Yeah, everything everybody remembers to
Speaker 1: bring back our Girls hashtag campaign that failed, miserable that
Speaker 1: the Obama ministry. Well, the firstly Michelle Obama started right.
Speaker 1: She held up the science and bring back our girls.
Speaker 1: And that's in reference to the three hundred uh females. Now,
Speaker 1: now we're talking about Nigeria, not for their Nigeria around
Speaker 1: the Mari, the Mari Durgo area and very a very
Speaker 1: Fulani heavy northern Nigeria where the majority of the ethnic
Speaker 1: ethnic Muslims and ethnic Sulani which is a clan, a
Speaker 1: nomadic clan kind of reside. So in you know, my
Speaker 1: my main man who Ian loves when I say this
Speaker 1: dude's name because I say it wrong every time Abul
Speaker 1: Baker Chico's name I give you know you always say
Speaker 1: we always give you ship. They always say Boco Raham
Speaker 1: instead of Boko Haram. It's like harem, right, I always
Speaker 1: say it like Boco Harem. That it's not it's Haram
Speaker 1: is Raham? Oh do I how do I say? Well,
Speaker 1: you the guy Abu Baker and his band of mary
Speaker 1: Men in Northern Nigeria and you know kidnapped three hundred
Speaker 1: girls and moved them up to northern Nigeria to kind
Speaker 1: of sell them human trafficking. Because Abel Baker Chicao is
Speaker 1: not a smart guy. Uh, he's learning from the the
Speaker 1: Arab influence, the Arabic influenced jihadists that were selling humans,
Speaker 1: selling women and children, uh for money for their causes.
Speaker 1: You know, gal Molly. Gal Molly, which is a city
Speaker 1: of town in southern Molly, which is a is a
Speaker 1: is a as a hub of the black market. Hub
Speaker 1: for it's a. It's a. It's a conduit for elicit
Speaker 1: elicit drugs, human trafficking, men, weapon and equipment to go
Speaker 1: to Europe and uh and then on the back end
Speaker 1: go back even towards India. It's it's a. It's amazing.
Speaker 1: It's always Putten a major stop on the Silk Road,
Speaker 1: the trade route. It's like Chinatown in New York. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sure someone's getting some someone selling somebody in Trying
Speaker 1: Town in New York. You could get it out here.
Speaker 1: So what's cool about it's what's cool about what the
Speaker 1: chat Aans did was the chat Aans formed a joint
Speaker 1: UH multi nash African National U unit if you will,
Speaker 1: like like an African Rainbow six. I know, I'm gone,
Speaker 1: it made fun up for saying that, but it's kind
Speaker 1: of technically this what it what it was with Chad,
Speaker 1: the U S Special Forces trained chat A and troops
Speaker 1: leading away. But what was cool about it is that
Speaker 1: there's a friend of soft reps, a friend of Jack's,
Speaker 1: also a well known UH godfather or legend in the
Speaker 1: private military, you know world, even Barlow from South Africa,
Speaker 1: the Chaday in the day in government I believe it
Speaker 1: was the Chadan or actually the Nigerian government approached his
Speaker 1: group to send up you know some I hate saying this,
Speaker 1: some private military folks. People are going to use the
Speaker 1: M word with that. And he sent up a bunch
Speaker 1: of UH, you know, train the trainer type of guy,
Speaker 1: some some subject matter experts that he had run in
Speaker 1: with his group and and and I think I think
Speaker 1: it was two weeks. I even reported on it. Two weeks.
Speaker 1: They pushed Bulker Haram so far deep into the end
Speaker 1: of the uh Sebo into the forest region that they
Speaker 1: found they found their main UH sounds like we're talking
Speaker 1: about Saturday Morning cartoons. They found their found bolker Ron's
Speaker 1: honeycomb hideout and blew the ship out of it and
Speaker 1: sent Abu Baker his second in command and whatever was
Speaker 1: left in Boca Ram into Nigair. So they took off
Speaker 1: into the Jair. So they weren't they were originally into Nigier.
Speaker 1: They were pushed into Nigier. They tried to take they
Speaker 1: try to make a stronghold in I think that the
Speaker 1: the Lake Chad Basin right around that area. That's that's
Speaker 1: what their stronghold. It was their stronghold, and then they
Speaker 1: got the crap beat out of them and pushed into Niger.
Speaker 1: That's okay, that's where. Okay, that's what that's clarified, all right. Cool.
Speaker 1: So that's so the Nigerian military before receiving a training
Speaker 1: in in the in the Train Advised CIS mission set
Speaker 1: from you know Special fort from the Green Berets, they
Speaker 1: weren't really set up to watch or are actively counter
Speaker 1: a lot of these you know Islamic State UH forces
Speaker 1: moving through Nager is massive, by the way, it's like
Speaker 1: a huge state. But they didn't have those forces to
Speaker 1: deal with the actual All they did was observing the
Speaker 1: that's basically what they did. So the Americans use their
Speaker 1: use there. Now there's no armed drones in nager That
Speaker 1: is a Nigerian government Status of Forces agreement. That is why,
Speaker 1: uh they didn't have any direct air support via a reaper.
Speaker 1: They only had predators. So these anything that's unarmed I
Speaker 1: always called preds or predators. Reapers are the ones with
Speaker 1: the health fires and that's another reason. Another another one
Speaker 1: of the major mitigating factors is is why the French
Speaker 1: Mirages didn't drop bombs during the ambush, one of which
Speaker 1: is they didn't have authorization from them to Zarian government
Speaker 1: to do kinetic strikes into the ambush was so massive
Speaker 1: in fluid they couldn't tell friends from foe, so you know,
Speaker 1: they aired on the side of caution and did a
Speaker 1: low level flyover kind of like what we saw in
Speaker 1: thirteen hours where the UH you know, the CIA operators like,
Speaker 1: do a low level fuck you fly over and we'll
Speaker 1: make these guys think twice. That's literally what they did
Speaker 1: with the Mirages and what got the French pumas in
Speaker 1: to get the Americans out. So Nagere wasn't set up
Speaker 1: tactically or militarily to deal with Bulka haram Uh and
Speaker 1: Sardine a U. And now this new slice element, the
Speaker 1: Islamic State in the greatest Sahara, and to include the
Speaker 1: Islamic State in Libya, because if you look at if
Speaker 1: you look at the map after you guys listen to
Speaker 1: the show or pull it up on your computer right now,
Speaker 1: you'll notice that nager is a giant, porous country and
Speaker 1: it's a it's every anybody you can think of, to
Speaker 1: include the Fulani nomadic tribes still utilized nineteen eighteen seven
Speaker 1: teenth century, you know, trade routes to move through that
Speaker 1: country unimpeded. They don't have the resources and or menat
Speaker 1: or equipment to even mark the borders efficiently. They don't
Speaker 1: even really know. The northern part of Nigeria is still
Speaker 1: uncharted and it's such an austere place. They needed they
Speaker 1: needed that, they needed a larger, you know, big brother
Speaker 1: international friend to help them out, and they got that
Speaker 1: by way of the United States. And what the United
Speaker 1: States did was instead of sending a bunch of Americans over,
Speaker 1: they inflated the They inflated their budgetary requirements and training
Speaker 1: requirements into the African Union and allowed this this thing
Speaker 1: to start happening in the African Union where they say
Speaker 1: African problem African problems, African solutions for African problems, because
Speaker 1: they wanted to put an African face on that. And
Speaker 1: that came from Centcom and so calm that to kind
Speaker 1: of grant back having a bunch of American special forces
Speaker 1: doing the work instead of why don't you have them
Speaker 1: trained vis a cysts and build a larger force. So
Speaker 1: what they did was they brought Chad in to sit
Speaker 1: on the north the northeastern portion of Nigerian borders that
Speaker 1: that borders that that borders Nigeria and Chad in the
Speaker 1: Lake Chad Basin. And their job was basically too to
Speaker 1: disrupt en route and eventually destroy Boca Haram's supply routes,
Speaker 1: training camps and eventually their their their effectiveness. Uh. And
Speaker 1: they came in and they did that and they've been
Speaker 1: holding those that border the north northeastern border of Niger
Speaker 1: uh since what was team effectively correct? Effectively, I expect
Speaker 1: as effective as fucked. You have to understand it. The
Speaker 1: Chaddan military is has received almost direct special operations training,
Speaker 1: special operations and conventional military army or military training from
Speaker 1: the United States since its inception. The Chad model of
Speaker 1: counter and surgency counter terrorism is a successful one, which
Speaker 1: leads me down the path of why the why the
Speaker 1: hell is that on a travel ban? And that's what
Speaker 1: I want to fast forward to. You just fucking nailed it.
Speaker 1: Why in God's name did we put a travel ban
Speaker 1: on Chad if they are actively fighting Bulka Haram? And
Speaker 1: I s gs, that is an amazing question. It baffles me.
Speaker 1: And I'm by no means a a Oxford or Columbia
Speaker 1: educated expert in African you know, regions or territories or
Speaker 1: or anything else. But if you think you than I
Speaker 1: talked to the guys I know in my head a
Speaker 1: lot and like, yeah, I totally get that. And then
Speaker 1: you know, I go home and google what the hell
Speaker 1: they're talking about and then Urban Dictionary so I can
Speaker 1: write it to people that can so they can read it.
Speaker 1: But if you talk to Professor Scotty and Professor Paul
Speaker 1: Williams wrote an amazing book, uh War in Conflict in
Speaker 1: Africa that's really tracked. And I talked to him and
Speaker 1: I'm like, so, what do you think of this this
Speaker 1: Chad travel band? And he just seems like it baffles me.
Speaker 1: That is ridiculous. So Jason, this is for you. Through
Speaker 1: a couple of my good friends, I was able to
Speaker 1: get ahold of the State Department spokesperson, UH spokesperson head there. Now,
Speaker 1: who's the current UH public public spokesperson for the State Department.
Speaker 1: And I asked her the same question. And here's the
Speaker 1: Here's how I asked her, is that she told she
Speaker 1: gave me the canned answer, which is UH first of
Speaker 1: the year. Around was April he the Trump administration issued
Speaker 1: their first ninety day travel band. It left out the
Speaker 1: ninety days. They just said, oh, it's a it's a
Speaker 1: Muslim band because technically, if you think about it as
Speaker 1: you think, technically, it is a Muslim it is the
Speaker 1: most of the majority of the travel band. It does
Speaker 1: it does resulte on mostly majority Muslim country. Yeah, mainstream
Speaker 1: media with the twist of words, Donald Trump has now
Speaker 1: becoming lomophobic. I'm a political I'm my opinion on that.
Speaker 1: I'm just that that's not part of the point. So
Speaker 1: what she was telling me was that the Trump administration
Speaker 1: had put these several of these countries on ninety day
Speaker 1: notice that they needed to correct the way that today
Speaker 1: that they biometrically and paperwork wise track into internally displaced
Speaker 1: persons or actually externally displaced refugees. They are either leaving
Speaker 1: their country and traveling throughout it. They wanted they wanted
Speaker 1: to have assurances that that places like goddamn South Sudan
Speaker 1: and Sudan aren't having massive leaks of potential radicalized folks,
Speaker 1: which is otherwise, Yeah, which is a legitimate concern because
Speaker 1: let's just be honest, a lot of these guys getting
Speaker 1: in these visas a proof of these visas. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're they're in their mid twenties and there's nothing on
Speaker 1: paper about them prior to them showing up to the
Speaker 1: embassies of the consulates for there. So I mean, uh so,
Speaker 1: let's fast forward to what's the situation now on hand
Speaker 1: with the Danian forces pulling away from the borders. I
Speaker 1: got a question. I got a question for you within that,
Speaker 1: so you can go on and explain this to me.
Speaker 1: But knowing the inevitable outcome, Derek, do you think the
Speaker 1: Jerdanians are actually just allowing I. S. G. S. Or
Speaker 1: Bokharram to come in, because that's obviously inevitable to come
Speaker 1: in and eventually just create some sort of Islamic state
Speaker 1: like we had in Rocco or mussul in the Toredanian
Speaker 1: basin or you know where this conflict took place in Tonga,
Speaker 1: Tonga mhm three with you, I think, but I think,
Speaker 1: I think, Okay, So I believe that Chad pulled the
Speaker 1: troops out of a northeast nager. Specifically, I mean the
Speaker 1: day after they were put on the indefinite travel band.
Speaker 1: Lift is the day after that they gave out blanket orders.
Speaker 1: They were pulling our troops. We're pulling our troops from
Speaker 1: the jar. We're pulling our troops from the border, and
Speaker 1: we're bringing them back to Chad. Even the Chad's Prime Minister,
Speaker 1: Chad's secretary to the United Nations Security Council, and the
Speaker 1: overall I don't know what you call. I'm assuming he's
Speaker 1: a president cabin are furious. They have no idea why
Speaker 1: they're on the travel ban, so they pulled their troops, Like,
Speaker 1: why are we going to support a U, n U,
Speaker 1: n UK, French and US backed counterinsurgency operation when the
Speaker 1: United States just put us on an indefinite travel ban
Speaker 1: because along with six other countries, I'm not count of
Speaker 1: North Korea because North Korea doesn't happen states. That's a
Speaker 1: stupid travel ban. It's a dumb travel band either all
Speaker 1: in with seven other states, that seven other countries within
Speaker 1: Africa that are actively dealing with an active counter terrorism
Speaker 1: and terrorism issue with the radical Islamic terrorists. It even happened.
Speaker 1: Iraq actually was on that travel ban as well, which
Speaker 1: I think, but they pulled them because they wouldn't reissue
Speaker 1: visas to the contractors in the country. So you know
Speaker 1: how you're going to continue to make those millions without
Speaker 1: those visas, so they had to pull them off. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I mean, so your question isn't
Speaker 1: that far off you think about it. Chad's pissed at
Speaker 1: the United States, Chad, and this is this is another thing.
Speaker 1: This is what Ms Naur Mrs Nahur was explained to me.
Speaker 1: Chad is on the indefinite travel band list because it
Speaker 1: was given ninety days to correct its to correct its
Speaker 1: paperwork trails on these folks and it didn't do it.
Speaker 1: It wasn't doing it. But there's another still going on
Speaker 1: and it deals with x On and it deals with
Speaker 1: Rex Taylorson. What about it? Now, let me give you
Speaker 1: a background on this. Exxon Mobile owes the nation of
Speaker 1: Chad seven eighteen billion dollars with a b that is
Speaker 1: eight times eight to twelve times larger than the nation
Speaker 1: of Chad's gross national product. That that Exxon owes them
Speaker 1: and back unpaid royalties. It also owes them a hundred
Speaker 1: something to two hundred million dollars on contract contract withdrawals
Speaker 1: or mitigation, and the Chadian government blast Actually, right before
Speaker 1: Mr Tillerson took over for the Secretary of State, um
Speaker 1: ceased all of Exxon's oil refinering production and crude oil
Speaker 1: movement to the terminals in their country until they paid
Speaker 1: them damn near close to a trillion dollars and back
Speaker 1: unpaid royalties. Now Tillerson goes as Secretary of State, Exxon
Speaker 1: and the government of Chad go into private and so
Speaker 1: whatever it's and then something is handled out of court.
Speaker 1: Six months later, Chad gets up and ends up on
Speaker 1: the band list, and Sudan gets a path. And here's
Speaker 1: where it's great, because Sudan during this whole time there,
Speaker 1: during this even during this ninety day period, was actively
Speaker 1: importing and purchasing weapons, equipment and material from North Korea
Speaker 1: through a Chinese trade company. But they were given them.
Speaker 1: Dan got a pass and you don't want to know
Speaker 1: why they got a pass because of South, because of
Speaker 1: salvok Here's commitment to the United States and clearing the
Speaker 1: southern portion of the Upper Now region of South Sudan
Speaker 1: where percent of their oil reserves are sitting. Right now,
Speaker 1: Sudan through rumors promise the United States that they would
Speaker 1: sever ties with Russia allow the United States to get
Speaker 1: come back into the oil the oil fields of Sudan
Speaker 1: in a bigger footprint now. Exxon and U S Oil
Speaker 1: have been in Sudan since the eighties and I that
Speaker 1: is a massive thing. That is that isn't that is
Speaker 1: a rumor mill opinion to which Mrs Nawart said that,
Speaker 1: you know, secretary of Tisan had already left the company
Speaker 1: had no involvement whatsoever in the African goings on of
Speaker 1: the oil company, which surprises me because if you're the
Speaker 1: chief executive officer of Exxon Mobile, wouldn't you not know
Speaker 1: about it like off the top of your head. But
Speaker 1: when you have like a staff and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: this is what's going down in Africa at at at
Speaker 1: these these areas and locations, Let's be honest, they he knew,
Speaker 1: Okay that you don't you don't run. Yeah, I'm sure
Speaker 1: he did. But Mrs but this this the Secretary of
Speaker 1: State and the State Department spokesperson were nice enough to
Speaker 1: answer these questions, and basically it came back was that Mr.
Speaker 1: Secretary Toison had no oversight, what's whatsoever, that was already
Speaker 1: on his way out a year before the Chad A
Speaker 1: and sued for unpaid royalties, and that it had just
Speaker 1: no bearing whatsoever on Chad being added to the the
Speaker 1: indefinite travel band list, the fact that they can't do
Speaker 1: good paperwork on UH, internally displaced persons are externally displaced
Speaker 1: refugees prior to them jumping on an aircraft and coming
Speaker 1: to the United States or elsewhere. UH isn't happening, crazy
Speaker 1: ship man. Hey Derek, if it's okay, I want to
Speaker 1: jump in. I want to make sure that we get
Speaker 1: to two other major topics, if that's all right, um.
Speaker 1: The first of which, as I mentioned earlier, the petition
Speaker 1: that you started a change dot org UH, it's safe
Speaker 1: to say, is gaining a lot of steam. Eight thousand
Speaker 1: signatures to stop the issuance of the Green Beret to
Speaker 1: the U. S. Army First Security Force, Assistants Brigade Um.
Speaker 1: I was not knowledgeable about this whole situation. I was
Speaker 1: talking about it with Jason. Well, I was talking with
Speaker 1: with you about it earlier. And you want to give
Speaker 1: your opinion on a Jason, because I think this is
Speaker 1: not the first time they did this to the SF community, correct,
Speaker 1: especially with the whole Beret deal in the color of
Speaker 1: the Beret situation. To me, it's it's just another I'm
Speaker 1: gonna call it what it is, another BS unit or
Speaker 1: BS commander that wants to kind of put himself on
Speaker 1: the tame same tier as so Calm or a Special
Speaker 1: Operations community because of one reason or another, maybe couldn't
Speaker 1: hack it, or maybe he didn't get orders to it
Speaker 1: or whatever. Now he's got this authority to start his
Speaker 1: own unit, and he's trying to steal the thunder and
Speaker 1: and and just absorbed the thunder from the Special Operations coming.
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's what it feels like to me.
Speaker 1: And you were saying that when you're talking about the
Speaker 1: Shinseki thing, right, Yeah, exactly that I was in the
Speaker 1: Army for that. That was horrible that he was. That
Speaker 1: was the worst decision I've ever seen in my life,
Speaker 1: and the Rangers didn't. They didn't take you kindly to that.
Speaker 1: It actually took several years before people stopped getting beat
Speaker 1: up for wearing a black beret. And then they they
Speaker 1: get him a tam bare the truth peck that was
Speaker 1: Sinpecky's legacy. See when he became the US Army, when
Speaker 1: he became chief of staff. Uh, you know, he had
Speaker 1: to have an idea there this is and this is
Speaker 1: what we're dealing with right now. Fast forward to you.
Speaker 1: Guys know that the Chief of Staff of the United
Speaker 1: States Army, General Millie, he called me right, you called
Speaker 1: me up because of the way he's eighty thousand signatures thousands. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you're almost their brother a hundred, of course you're
Speaker 1: making head weight. And I think this podcast will help guys.
Speaker 1: So if if you're listening, go to change dot org.
Speaker 1: You'll see you know, and I'll link it. I'll link
Speaker 1: it on softwarep dot com to the episode. But you'll
Speaker 1: see if petitions stop issuance of the green beret of
Speaker 1: the U. S Army First Security Force Assistance Brigade. UM.
Speaker 1: I mean that's huge, dude, and congrats to you. I mean,
Speaker 1: you did this outside of just soft wrap. It's your own,
Speaker 1: your own creation. I didn't do it. I didn't want to.
Speaker 1: I didn't because I was I was actually tapping into
Speaker 1: the into the community, into the specially the Green Beret
Speaker 1: community and the Green Beret community. It's all on committee,
Speaker 1: it really is. And I presented this, I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: I got these pictures. This goddamn beret looks exactly like ours.
Speaker 1: There's no such thing as brown, all brown green. It's
Speaker 1: all of drab. Civilians cannot change tell the difference between it.
Speaker 1: Plus I started doing the research. Now the petition, there
Speaker 1: is nothing I I personally don't have a problem with
Speaker 1: this with the first s FAB whose mission set is
Speaker 1: to train and advise combat advisors. If you go and look,
Speaker 1: you can see the patches. I mean, these things are
Speaker 1: they have completely. The thing is that none of us
Speaker 1: have a problem with the mission go for it, none
Speaker 1: of us do. The problem is is that you're co
Speaker 1: opting our heritage train green beret. You're giving him a tab,
Speaker 1: You're giving them an arrowhead patch that looks like the
Speaker 1: old Rokondo thing. And then I've been on the page
Speaker 1: and that they talk about themselves as an elite unit
Speaker 1: within the United States Army where they do special operations,
Speaker 1: missions of train, advise and insist. And they also, you know,
Speaker 1: they called themselves the Legion. Now fifth Group has been
Speaker 1: known as the Legions since since. So then that's when
Speaker 1: a lot of the guys were like, nah, fuck this.
Speaker 1: So then I looked up the person that created this
Speaker 1: this unit, and it was it was General Millie. Now
Speaker 1: General Millie is an active duty long tab holder, which
Speaker 1: means he's a Special Forces qualified Green Beret. That's now
Speaker 1: the chief chief of the United the US Army chief
Speaker 1: of Staff who created the first s BAB and literally
Speaker 1: split this entire thing berets, tabs, patches and arrowhead and
Speaker 1: arrowhead patches completely under the radar and out of the
Speaker 1: limelight because nobody knew about this and out of the limelight.
Speaker 1: So the miss with the issue that that the Special
Speaker 1: Forces Brotherhood active and retired have uh is the co
Speaker 1: opting of our heritage. The mission itself and the heritage
Speaker 1: co opting came from a Green Beret himself, a Green
Speaker 1: Beret general officer, and this is his legacy. And so
Speaker 1: so my my assessment of it, and this is what
Speaker 1: I think you're getting at, and correct me if I'm wrong, bro,
Speaker 1: I just, I just this is you're not. You're not
Speaker 1: upset with the fact that they might be doing special
Speaker 1: operations like training when it comes to foreign military training
Speaker 1: or some type of fm T something form military training unit.
Speaker 1: You're not where it. But the problem is they're taking
Speaker 1: away from the actual Green Berets history. I believe they are.
Speaker 1: I believe they're taking away from the lineage and and
Speaker 1: heritage of the Green Beret community and the Green Break
Speaker 1: you know history. You're absolutely right, But I need to
Speaker 1: focus on the fact that General Millie is a former
Speaker 1: fifth Group Commander, fifth Special Forces Group. He you know,
Speaker 1: he knows what the legion means. He knows that the
Speaker 1: Bret is green. He knows the screen brown. No, it's green.
Speaker 1: He knows the screen. He knows that that this has hap.
Speaker 1: He knows that that there's there's a some sort of
Speaker 1: weird selection process to be a part of this, and
Speaker 1: then the mission set itself. I look at it as
Speaker 1: from a tactical standpoint, it be great to have regular
Speaker 1: Army guys come in and train up new recruits, and
Speaker 1: then when we show up, we get like the cream
Speaker 1: of the crop, you know what I mean? They're already
Speaker 1: trained in basic rifle, marshman shift, they're already trained on
Speaker 1: how to move you know. Okay, these guys show special attitudes.
Speaker 1: So then we start training up commandos while these training
Speaker 1: advised and assist regular folks train up new guys. So
Speaker 1: it kind of streamlined the process, right. The problem is
Speaker 1: is that the General General Millie called me and explained
Speaker 1: all of this to me, and you know, he had
Speaker 1: my DD form to fourteen in front of him. He's like,
Speaker 1: do I call you start in first class Gannon or
Speaker 1: do you call you Derek. I was like, well, I've
Speaker 1: been retired for six years. Are you dropping? Are you
Speaker 1: dropping weight on us? Did you just drop some weight? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: It's like why you were fifth? I'm like, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I was. I was. I'm a legionnaire. I speak q
Speaker 1: R till I die. But however I talked to it
Speaker 1: was a really good discussion and and and not. I'm
Speaker 1: not fifteen minutes later, like before you hung with the phone,
Speaker 1: He's like, now I'm gonna go over and talk to
Speaker 1: the Army Times lady because she's started all this these problems,
Speaker 1: which reporters do a lot, by the way, they like
Speaker 1: to misconstrue and and and like exaggerate titles and words.
Speaker 1: So it's I kind of get it. Yeah. My point
Speaker 1: is this is that General Milly was trying to create
Speaker 1: his own special forces group without actually having them special
Speaker 1: forces qualified, and he got caught. But what if and
Speaker 1: then he goes to the Army Times and they're right
Speaker 1: after he gets done speaking with me, he goes under
Speaker 1: the Army Times and the Army Megan Moyer, who's who
Speaker 1: we need to leave alone. If anybody in the community
Speaker 1: is listening to me, stop with the with the stupid
Speaker 1: meme attacks and the disgusting racial and sexist slurs. This
Speaker 1: is a very small minority. It's been nipped in the
Speaker 1: butt already. But that's I don't want that. And she
Speaker 1: wrote a she wrote a very good fluff piece about
Speaker 1: how I started to notice about how General Milly and
Speaker 1: the Pentagon are trying to paint a picture that the
Speaker 1: mainstream media does a lot that the veterans that are
Speaker 1: bitching about this and I used the word bitching are
Speaker 1: just angry about up ray and that were I rate.
Speaker 1: So the Army Times article, I had a problem with
Speaker 1: it because the intent was to besmirch I love that
Speaker 1: word and smear the petition campaign to make it look
Speaker 1: like there's a bunch of like just over drugged, drunk, angry,
Speaker 1: irate Green Beret veterans just running amuck on social media,
Speaker 1: dropping memes and calling people, you know, awords and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. And and then the but the best part
Speaker 1: was she was as she asked him about the train
Speaker 1: advised CIST mission. And this is General Millie, the Chief
Speaker 1: of Staff of the United States Army and a teen
Speaker 1: series qualified Green Beret and former Fifth Group commander, went
Speaker 1: on record and said the Green Berets of Special Forces
Speaker 1: have never trained any host nation military nor served with
Speaker 1: them ever. And people lost their minds. Even I did.
Speaker 1: I was like, so, who, okay, if I've never trained
Speaker 1: and fun alongside any host nations folks, who then did
Speaker 1: I fight with in Iraq? What? Who the fuck was that?
Speaker 1: Because they sure ship looked Iraqi and they were a
Speaker 1: new Arabic I mean, some of them were occurred. I
Speaker 1: guess you could get a little weird on that. But
Speaker 1: he literally said that, and the backlash was so was
Speaker 1: so absolute and swift that he went onto the Army
Speaker 1: Times website and wrote a retraction. He was like, I
Speaker 1: should have never have said that. It's that's not actually
Speaker 1: not true. As a Green Beret myself, I knew that
Speaker 1: wasn't true. Direct all your hate towards me, to which
Speaker 1: they did. I mean, he said some blatantly, uh weird things. Now, Ian,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've actually answered your question. I
Speaker 1: started this petition for the one reason and one reason only,
Speaker 1: is that we there is a micro aggressive echo chamber
Speaker 1: is situation going on in the United States. We have
Speaker 1: a divisiveness in the United States that's really really, really
Speaker 1: focused on a lot of people are like no, no,
Speaker 1: everyone's really happy and fun and friendly. Not if you
Speaker 1: watch the news, there's the most of weird, the most
Speaker 1: divisive nation in the world. And this the petition. I
Speaker 1: started this petition because if you're going to politicize veterans
Speaker 1: about taking a knee an NFL game and I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna get into that or protesting the national anthem, and
Speaker 1: you say that, you're you're you're just just disparaging the
Speaker 1: veteran men and women who fought and died for that flag.
Speaker 1: And that makes you, that makes you, that makes you unpatriotic,
Speaker 1: that makes you not a veteran or a military supporter,
Speaker 1: and that makes you an angry liberal communist. Well, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna politicize veterans, this is what politicism. The politicization
Speaker 1: of veterans looked like. Gonna change dot org that has
Speaker 1: a direct pipeline to the Department of Defense, Joint Special
Speaker 1: Operations Command, Special Operations Command, and the Department of Defense.
Speaker 1: I combined a group of caps, if you will, because
Speaker 1: veterans themselves are hard to get focused on one specific
Speaker 1: thing if it's not destroying somebody, it's hard to kind
Speaker 1: of focus them on one specific things, let alone. Having Greenberg,
Speaker 1: I was able to control, not so much control, but
Speaker 1: to guide a herd of veteran and active duty Green
Speaker 1: Beret cats to a collective mission that See, this is
Speaker 1: the political process. A peppe fucking meme isn't political. A
Speaker 1: petition along with social interaction and guidance through your community
Speaker 1: and giving back the community, this is what this is
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do. People may think it's funny that
Speaker 1: a grown ass man is is it started a position
Speaker 1: over a beret, But if you've never earned one, you
Speaker 1: don't understand it. Let's just see a bunch of kids
Speaker 1: walking around wearing it. I want them to be proud
Speaker 1: of their units. I want them to have unit cohesion.
Speaker 1: But pick a different color. Yeah, pick a different color. Look,
Speaker 1: start your own fucking legacy. Don't steal that that's already established.
Speaker 1: And let me say, let me tell you from the
Speaker 1: outside looking in, and you know, I'm a Marine and
Speaker 1: we are are some of the freaking biggest traditionalists when
Speaker 1: it comes to the d O D. Like, we can
Speaker 1: recite back to some of our first officers, let alone units,
Speaker 1: you know, and we we keep that legacy, that lineage
Speaker 1: true and strong throughout all of our teachings, whether it's
Speaker 1: boot camp, whether it's in the Marine Corps, whether you're
Speaker 1: in you're in the Fleet, and you're in the FMF.
Speaker 1: I mean, we have these periods of instructions where we
Speaker 1: remember all our forefathers, of the guys that came before us.
Speaker 1: For lack of better term, um, you know, we remember
Speaker 1: these guys for a reason because it makes us that
Speaker 1: much more prouder of who we are. And the same
Speaker 1: thing goes for your unit, your special Operations unit, your
Speaker 1: your special Forces, your green berets. These are these are
Speaker 1: all things that men have literally bled and died for
Speaker 1: where the flag have covered their caskets. And if you're
Speaker 1: gonna start your own unit, which fuck the mission. Who
Speaker 1: cares if you are doing special operations like missions, your training, Okay,
Speaker 1: I get it, Start your own goddamn lineage. Don't started
Speaker 1: off the back of another units. You know, I totally
Speaker 1: get it. Don't water down what we did and what
Speaker 1: I did. Yeah, and and too. And to General Milly's defense,
Speaker 1: I don't anybody think I'm talking. The man called me
Speaker 1: he respected the process enough and understood that when he
Speaker 1: did and and understood that in three days, in seventy
Speaker 1: two hours, we had eight two eighty two thousand signatures
Speaker 1: in three days. And that was just a Twitter campaign.
Speaker 1: That was it. And then and then journalists started writing
Speaker 1: about it. Scotland wrote about it, our our own Steve Balisari,
Speaker 1: he's been tracking it. Army Times had an op ed
Speaker 1: from my real good friend Scott Neil, you know, original
Speaker 1: Horse Soldier about it, uh, you know Army Times or
Speaker 1: another retraction about it. I mean, it's the god damn
Speaker 1: United States Military at west Point wrote about it. Their
Speaker 1: CTC Sentinel magazine wrote about it in and in a
Speaker 1: good light. They're like maybe you should have picked something know,
Speaker 1: far away from a color that screen, you know. And
Speaker 1: then everybody brought up the Shenski black black Beret Rangers
Speaker 1: thing too, and the Rangers got a rob deal. They
Speaker 1: got a rob goddamn deal, and a lot of Rangers,
Speaker 1: you know, even new Rangers now know that the the
Speaker 1: Tan beret was not the original brick. But the point
Speaker 1: of the petition was I was listening to the collective
Speaker 1: disagreement and and complaining that was actually turning pretty pretty
Speaker 1: sound within the brotherhood itself, and and I positive as like, hey,
Speaker 1: does anybody have a problem if I start a petition?
Speaker 1: Let's let's let's let's show the United States what a
Speaker 1: political middle ground actually looks like. Because a lot of
Speaker 1: these guys in the SSET Brotherhood do you think I
Speaker 1: do you think I agree with them politically? No, there's
Speaker 1: some three for centers in there. There's there's there's some
Speaker 1: there may be there may be even all left and
Speaker 1: right folks in there, you know, the left not so much.
Speaker 1: I'm a minority. But all these people with different ideas,
Speaker 1: different unit cohesion, different realization of who they are, and
Speaker 1: people they don't like, came together and in and in
Speaker 1: and for three days was able to gather eighty eight
Speaker 1: thousand signatures and get the attention of not only the
Speaker 1: Pentagon but the Chief of Staff of the United States Army.
Speaker 1: Who's this? This first Special Security Forces Advisory Brigade is
Speaker 1: his baby that until when he retired, Like I created
Speaker 1: an entire unit out of Derek, until until they rectify this.
Speaker 1: I would like to officially call him swagger Jackers. Can
Speaker 1: we call him that? Swaggon jack in as unit? Listen,
Speaker 1: I got a question for you, maybe because you're the
Speaker 1: only one that could really give us some insight on this,
Speaker 1: something that I haven't heard much of. Um tenth group,
Speaker 1: sorry in first class Stephen B. Cribbon, who just recently, Yes,
Speaker 1: so what do you got on him? He just passed
Speaker 1: away in the Logar province, So you know what's going
Speaker 1: on over there? Uh? The only thing that I got
Speaker 1: back um from Eustatok was was cribbins um Uh A
Speaker 1: very brief Uh. I would they are keeping it tight?
Speaker 1: I heard, Yeah, they're keeping it. They're keeping it pretty
Speaker 1: tight tightly lippt um. The shittiness about that is that
Speaker 1: I've got I hate saying this. I've got I've got
Speaker 1: six dead green Berets that I'm tracking right now for
Speaker 1: you know, the the four and in the Jair, the
Speaker 1: one in Molly and or excuse me seven and the
Speaker 1: two now in Afghanistan and right now the used to
Speaker 1: suck the the They gave me some some good deep
Speaker 1: dive information on his on his uh. And the other
Speaker 1: one you're talking about is Jacob Sims. I think one
Speaker 1: sixties sore STIs yeah Stims. Now the one sixties sore
Speaker 1: thing that that was, Um, that was a that was
Speaker 1: an unfortunate helicopter accident. Um if you believe that, uh
Speaker 1: and and it really high like that tested. That's why
Speaker 1: we got to talk about this stuff, you know, That's
Speaker 1: why we got to bring it up. Because if it,
Speaker 1: like you said the same thing with Niger, if you
Speaker 1: don't talk about it, no one's gonna talk about it
Speaker 1: or even investigate or look into it. So I mean,
Speaker 1: we'd have to bring these things up. That's what we
Speaker 1: do here. I'm glad. I'm glad you brought it up.
Speaker 1: I will say that that there is work going on
Speaker 1: about the Afghanistan thing right now as an active research
Speaker 1: and active at a collection. I'm being totally cryptic because
Speaker 1: I want to sound super cool right now. But yeah,
Speaker 1: we're we're working on we and I are working on
Speaker 1: on something on kind of like a splainer if you will,
Speaker 1: on what happened in that in the logar in Afghanistan,
Speaker 1: that one sixty, but what potentially would have happened and
Speaker 1: and things like that. I appreciate. Yeah, No, I no worries. Man.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like, come on, cocaine, I just gotta
Speaker 1: talk as fast as Tuck. But I guess we gotta that.
Speaker 1: Hey listen, man, you're gonna be on here again. I
Speaker 1: think you're the one of the most informed fools we
Speaker 1: got up in this mug, all right. So I appreciate
Speaker 1: it because I have no hobbies that's outside of, you know,
Speaker 1: getting tattoos and and trying to stay out of jail.
Speaker 1: Are you gonna get tattooed by Jason when you come
Speaker 1: to New York. That's why I keep every time I'm
Speaker 1: on the show, I'm gonna mention it to Jason because
Speaker 1: tattoo parlor. So yeah, I'd like to get the Homeboy discount,
Speaker 1: but I don't want to get like like cookie Monster.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, you know me better than that bro.
Speaker 1: I don't know, having that ship, bro, it's gonna go
Speaker 1: hard pretty good. Hey, speaking of which, man, can we
Speaker 1: talk about Jason for a second. Have a book going
Speaker 1: It's I don't know, it's all right, I guess you know.
Speaker 1: Everything is like you said, it's cryptic right now. It's
Speaker 1: like the fucking goddamn US government over here. Everybody's keeping
Speaker 1: things tight lip. You know, I won't see nothing actually
Speaker 1: officially when it comes to numbers for like another month
Speaker 1: or so. That's just the way the business works. But
Speaker 1: it's going good. I know we're moving up in ranks
Speaker 1: and Amazon UM. So that means that people are reading
Speaker 1: it and referring it. So and everyone that is getting
Speaker 1: back to me. You know, I doubt it's fakeness because
Speaker 1: it's just random strangers hitting me up and saying that
Speaker 1: it's a page turner. It's addictive. So you know, it's good,
Speaker 1: and you know, I guess I'm getting reaffirmation that, you know, UM,
Speaker 1: the message I set out to UM basically you know,
Speaker 1: deliver well, it is that in fact being received. So
Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day, it's about
Speaker 1: me giving these this younger generation UM the cheat codes
Speaker 1: to your enlistment and to your family, you know, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day. So that's I like. I
Speaker 1: like that, And you know, guys like you need a
Speaker 1: fucking right to bro. You need a book. Bro, what's up? Soft?
Speaker 1: Didn't do anything? I didn't do anything. Cool. I can't
Speaker 1: use that now now that ship is mine since day one, fool,
Speaker 1: you can't have that. You you got Legion, Bro. I'm
Speaker 1: not Legion Erica. That's inside. But you got the Legion. Bro.
Speaker 1: That's ship. That sounds tight, the Legion. Come on the
Speaker 1: funk out of here. That's awesome, dude, you got it. Well, Hey, boys,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bounce. I gotta get going. Oh we didn't
Speaker 1: even we didn't even get into the green break held
Speaker 1: in Molly. Could I, you know, maybe get well, yeah,
Speaker 1: if you want to sum it up, and then I
Speaker 1: want to mention one of the real quick Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: sorry about that. Guys. You can't put on pants yet. Bro,
Speaker 1: let's go. It's f I have like three other topics
Speaker 1: I wanted to cover with Derek. But I appreciate it. Man.
Speaker 1: You asked Derek one question and we're on a roll.
Speaker 1: But it's good. I want Yeah, that was my fault,
Speaker 1: No fault. Did you read it wrong? Did you thought
Speaker 1: we were rushing you? We were just were just trying
Speaker 1: to hit the topics. Let's go, brother, come on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Molly, um, very very interesting situation. Not a lot
Speaker 1: being put out on in public as far as information. Um,
Speaker 1: it's super it's it's it's a sensitive topic because once
Speaker 1: again it deals with Seal Team six and and and
Speaker 1: this time it also deals with it's so what we know,
Speaker 1: um in a quick distort, you know, kind of down
Speaker 1: dirty is uh you know, uh, from what from what
Speaker 1: we we had found out both at Software and through
Speaker 1: you know, our own private channels here over at Software
Speaker 1: we're doing quick research on this. Was that um ay,
Speaker 1: there's a there's rumors that drugs and alcohol may have
Speaker 1: been involved. It's always that. Plus the reason why I
Speaker 1: call gone now we don't know that there there's from
Speaker 1: what use of suck and for what navspect Wars public
Speaker 1: affairs offices have told Software to include myself, is that
Speaker 1: there's an active investigation going on and they're not going
Speaker 1: to comment, which is we get that someone like this
Speaker 1: is something indicative of like some some sort of fight
Speaker 1: club gone bad. Uh, you know the room that where
Speaker 1: Amelga was found looked like a bomb had gone off
Speaker 1: on it. There was definitely a signs of the struggle.
Speaker 1: And that's why the the the the I guess, the
Speaker 1: Army attache or the the command attached for the Special
Speaker 1: Forces UH instantly called in the c I D, which
Speaker 1: is the U. S Army's Criminal Investigation Division UH and
Speaker 1: order under under the auspices of foul play that was
Speaker 1: further further solidified and n c I S was brought in.
Speaker 1: Was after the fact that the two Navy seals were
Speaker 1: actually not considered persons of interests. They were considered witnesses
Speaker 1: like you know, UH, chief witnesses. And after the military
Speaker 1: medical examiner came back and said that that that the
Speaker 1: cause of death was was blunt trauma or it was
Speaker 1: due due to strangulation. Was definitely due to intentional strangulation,
Speaker 1: and came in and took took spearheaded it and the
Speaker 1: two Navy seals from Seal Team six, by the way,
Speaker 1: dev grew Jaysack boys. UH, we're I guess, put on
Speaker 1: my plane, removed from Molly, sent back to dan Nick
Speaker 1: East coast of the United States, and immediately put on
Speaker 1: an administrative leave. They got some ship coming down the pipe.
Speaker 1: Uh maybe you know, maybe Jack Jack's well, Jack's follow
Speaker 1: up deals a lot more with how the Seal Team
Speaker 1: six and Jay Saw deal with U. C. MJ. No.
Speaker 1: I was, I was. I was a part of SOCOM,
Speaker 1: and you know, I understand, like you know, we were
Speaker 1: given a certain leniency when it came to issues so
Speaker 1: to speak, that arose out in town, not like the
Speaker 1: regular Marine Corps. I'm not gonna exactly tip the hand
Speaker 1: because you know what, those guys kind of need that leniency,
Speaker 1: They need that trust because a lot of the situations
Speaker 1: that happen, you know, some of them are you know
Speaker 1: a little over exaggerated, and they need to have that
Speaker 1: wiggle room to come out of them, unlike you know,
Speaker 1: regular Marine Corps where you know, you fart the wrong
Speaker 1: way and you're gonna lose rank, you know. So, um,
Speaker 1: that being said, I just want to say everyone, it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter who what unit you're attached to. Everyone has
Speaker 1: those crazy fucking nights. You know. I remember where we
Speaker 1: used to fucking hold ourselves up in the barracks and
Speaker 1: you know, you know how the ranges have numbers on
Speaker 1: you know, our marine Corps. BASI like Range ones team.
Speaker 1: You know, our barracks rooms had numbers too, so we
Speaker 1: would get drunk and you know, play these games like
Speaker 1: you know, if your room number was like two or two,
Speaker 1: we're called like Range too, too, And we'll put on
Speaker 1: fucking flag jacket and kevlar and fucking drink and listen
Speaker 1: to music. And when we're done with the beer, Botty
Speaker 1: will fucking launch that ship on the wall and just
Speaker 1: smash that motherfucker, you know what I mean. So, I
Speaker 1: mean the room would look like you describe their room.
Speaker 1: What I'm trying to say is when alcohol and high
Speaker 1: Test tossed their own motherfucker's get you know, start mingling,
Speaker 1: you know, ship goes down so um. But as far
Speaker 1: as you're saying, you know the way certain leniencies are
Speaker 1: given towards uh A so calm or Jason Soccat's uh
Speaker 1: I get it, you know. But that being said, even then,
Speaker 1: if something happened in there, I gotta say, in their
Speaker 1: lack of judgment, it's something they gotta live with two men,
Speaker 1: and I think that's gonna be really, really fucking heavy
Speaker 1: for them to deal with, too, bro, You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? I agree, I completely agree. Hey, Derek, thank you.
Speaker 1: I mean there's another and there's an underlying problem in
Speaker 1: in in in the military, well in the United States
Speaker 1: as a whole, not just a military, we have a
Speaker 1: serious problem with with substance abuse. Yeah, as a whole.
Speaker 1: You're right, bro, So and it's not a bad thing.
Speaker 1: It's like op tempo and being in pain and everything
Speaker 1: else like that. I mean, eventually, what humans not going
Speaker 1: to try to seek some sort of respite from that,
Speaker 1: so and then having a deed, Get it, man, I
Speaker 1: totally get especially fucking come on, this is deaf group, bro,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: fucking There's a lot of ship going on there, you know,
Speaker 1: especially throwing an SF cat into the mix. You're throw
Speaker 1: into you know, the bigger dig contest things going on,
Speaker 1: and yeah, ship is going to go down, you know.
Speaker 1: But like like you said, you know, I maybe there
Speaker 1: needs to be not oversight. Not to say I don't
Speaker 1: want to want these guys to be micro they can't be,
Speaker 1: it's impossible, but maybe things afforded to them. You know
Speaker 1: that they're not going to realize until they're older, until
Speaker 1: their our age, you know that, Like I said, that
Speaker 1: emotional rubber band has reached this complete capacity of elasticity,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like these guys they had
Speaker 1: that has to be recognized. Some of these guys need
Speaker 1: to be talked to. They need to know that they have,
Speaker 1: you know, things available to them to work through these situations.
Speaker 1: And while they're active, they don't want to actively seek it.
Speaker 1: But I think they need to be prompted towards these
Speaker 1: things because if they're going to stay in for twenty
Speaker 1: years or something like that, within a community where they're
Speaker 1: allowed to operate, these things need to be addressed. Do
Speaker 1: you agree. I agree. And the guys that stay in
Speaker 1: the community for twenty years and don't address that is
Speaker 1: there is has the potential of creating quite a toxic command.
Speaker 1: That's that's my opinion. If you've got a guys that
Speaker 1: have been doing this and they consider it not a
Speaker 1: big issue, they come all way up to the ranks
Speaker 1: and then they're they're in charge of units such as this.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that this is the case, and I
Speaker 1: could create a toxic command where it's it's okay for
Speaker 1: these types of behaviors is to kind of continue to
Speaker 1: to get worse. Yeah, Hey, Derek, can I break in
Speaker 1: the Can I break your balls about one thing before
Speaker 1: we let you go? Yeah, but then I've got to go.
Speaker 1: You can break my balls. You haven't done it all day,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna break your balls right now. Uh. The
Speaker 1: last show, we had Jesse Davenport on Who's Jason's Brother?
Speaker 1: You know, I felt in Scott Sniper and he taught
Speaker 1: about that his time as a Marine Scott Sniper was
Speaker 1: just far more, you know, I guess proud moment of
Speaker 1: his than being a Green Beret, which he also was.
Speaker 1: And on the show he said, you remember him saying
Speaker 1: the que Course was a breeze. He's like, it was
Speaker 1: nothing to me. Yeah, but that's hold on. In his defense,
Speaker 1: you gotta understand, this motherfucker went through Marine Scotts Sniper School,
Speaker 1: fucking several indoctor nations like this ship as hell, bro,
Speaker 1: and then to go from that to the que Course,
Speaker 1: It's like the equivalent of a fucking bread baker and
Speaker 1: a candlestick maker in the Navy going to the buds
Speaker 1: and then becoming a fucking killer within however many weeks
Speaker 1: program that is, and then so on after I just
Speaker 1: wanted to see what Derek thought though, of course it's
Speaker 1: going to be easy for him, but not a typical
Speaker 1: kid because he watched the Discovery Channel two weeks in
Speaker 1: hell and it's not two weeks. I'll tell you right now,
Speaker 1: they can't show the other three weeks of the of
Speaker 1: the que course. In the selection course, I will take
Speaker 1: on that Scott sniper, I don't give you better kill
Speaker 1: me from a far away. You think what I think?
Speaker 1: I think? Wait? Wait, I think what his point was
Speaker 1: that you know where the a t n X ray
Speaker 1: issue is what he's he has issue with. Is it
Speaker 1: where some of these younger guys, you know, inexperience in
Speaker 1: the in combat and experience in the maturity required to
Speaker 1: conduct these operations, you know, are starting to flood the teams,
Speaker 1: and they're starting to kind of like kind of like
Speaker 1: funk up the name of the all the guys that
Speaker 1: put in work, all the guys I've been out there,
Speaker 1: all the fucking senior guys and the legacy guys, and
Speaker 1: because they're just you know, they're getting they're they're they're already,
Speaker 1: but yeah, there's still too fucking immature to understand the
Speaker 1: responsibility they have. I think that was his point you
Speaker 1: know what do you think about that? Okay, yep, no,
Speaker 1: I totally agree with him then, and you guys can
Speaker 1: all blame Donald Rumsfeld for that shift fucking rum given
Speaker 1: given Osama bin laden guns and then you know, having
Speaker 1: to kill him. How I want to create this off.
Speaker 1: Let's let's let's reignite the x ray program from nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty six. The first couple of classes that went to
Speaker 1: the X ray program, if they survived, those are some
Speaker 1: hard dudes. Well, we love having the only reason I'm
Speaker 1: cutting off Derek's Derek's like, I gotta as better to do. Fine,
Speaker 1: all right, we'll let you go at Derek Gannon see
Speaker 1: him six. We're gonna definitely have you on soon. Man.
Speaker 1: We got to talk about a lot of other things.
Speaker 1: I love your brother and love your right and keep
Speaker 1: it up, Broire you too, buddy. I'll talk to you
Speaker 1: guys later, Okay, right on, bangs man. All right, So, man,
Speaker 1: that great having Derek on the show. I feel like
Speaker 1: Derek had a lot pent up to talk about because
Speaker 1: the last couple of times we had Derek on it
Speaker 1: was like, hey Derek, we have another guest. So it's
Speaker 1: a quick ten fifteen minute hit so now you know
Speaker 1: he wanted to get to everything, and I'm glad that
Speaker 1: he did. Isn't he so knowledgeable, especially about the topic
Speaker 1: in Africa, which is ridiculous because you don't get to
Speaker 1: hear all these details. I mean, you can, obviously anyone
Speaker 1: could go on and do their research and pulls them
Speaker 1: of this up. But to have that that inside insider
Speaker 1: point of view, especially for me, this guy's more I
Speaker 1: think he's more liberal than conservative. You go, he's open
Speaker 1: about which is fucking cool because he's still a fucking
Speaker 1: patriot and can still be liberal and he understands the
Speaker 1: way the system works. So and that's another thing he
Speaker 1: brought up. Regardless of your political affiliation within the soft community,
Speaker 1: within the SF community, they're gripe, is what the watering
Speaker 1: down or the stealing, the swagger jacking, for lack of
Speaker 1: better terms, the swagger jacking of the lineage. It doesn't
Speaker 1: matter what what what affiliation you you subscribe to, You're
Speaker 1: you're stealing my blood, sweat and tears, my work ethic
Speaker 1: might I'm not worth it, my sweat equity. You know
Speaker 1: what I put into this community and what this community
Speaker 1: has given me and what has came before me, like
Speaker 1: if you're starting your own unit, start your own unit
Speaker 1: and start your own legacy. And and what you're saying
Speaker 1: about Derek is true because people have said to me, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, like what's the political uh le you know,
Speaker 1: lean of the side or the show and the whole
Speaker 1: thing about it, which is great and a huge credit
Speaker 1: to Brandon and and Jack more than anything is as
Speaker 1: long as you're a guy with the experience, they don't
Speaker 1: care what angle you're coming from. You know, Derek has
Speaker 1: said it before, and other writers have said that. There's
Speaker 1: never been a time that Brandon or Jack have said like,
Speaker 1: don't put this on the side. It's too it's too conservative,
Speaker 1: or it's too liberal. You know. Um, we've had Christen
Speaker 1: Beck on the show. We've also had Rob O'Neil on
Speaker 1: the show. You know what I mean, very different opinions.
Speaker 1: So we like controversy. I mean, that's you guys want
Speaker 1: to hear both sides of the table, both sides of
Speaker 1: the conversation. You're gonna get it. As long as we
Speaker 1: got the guys with the experience, I know what the
Speaker 1: hell they're talking about talk about the stuff. And that's
Speaker 1: what we do here in software and now listen. This
Speaker 1: episode to me was probably one of the most insightful
Speaker 1: when it came to a specific subject, because I don't
Speaker 1: think what Derek put out with us today was ever
Speaker 1: put out, you know Derek, And especially with the Rex
Speaker 1: Tillerson situation, that's something it was huge. It was major,
Speaker 1: like I don't know, but deserves maybe a second looking into.
Speaker 1: But what I'm trying to say is, Wow, look at
Speaker 1: the guys we have working on staff. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is what you're gonna get with the writing content on
Speaker 1: the on the on the on the website. Go ahead
Speaker 1: and take a look at it. We're gonna bring these
Speaker 1: guys on again. I mean, these guys the subject duty experts,
Speaker 1: and you can't fucking deny that. Yeah, but that's the
Speaker 1: great thing, man. We make people laugh, we make people
Speaker 1: learn something that's like Corey Lanis when he comes on
Speaker 1: the show. It's the same thing. I've learned more about
Speaker 1: hacking through him than just about anybody. And sometimes when
Speaker 1: I tell people that we have like computer hackers at
Speaker 1: the site, they're like, oh, the US you know, people
Speaker 1: who aren't really informably like the US government is hackers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we do. You know what I mean, and he's even
Speaker 1: said on the show about, uh, you know, the whole
Speaker 1: idea of Russia influencing influencing our election. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't think we influence other people's elections. We do
Speaker 1: it all the time. Yeah. So I think it's a
Speaker 1: lot of people lack of knowledge. You think this is
Speaker 1: some amazing thing that Russia wanted the election to go
Speaker 1: a certain way. And you know what, Actually, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: play something on here because I know I have it
Speaker 1: on the SoundCloud. And now that's for nothing. If I
Speaker 1: thought Hillary Clay was going to inevitably become the president,
Speaker 1: I would have driving my goddamn best to change it. Too. Well,
Speaker 1: here's the thing I know Tom To agrees with me.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play this because, um, as I'm saying it,
Speaker 1: it reminds me of a clip. I have this five
Speaker 1: minute clip of core Alanis and from what he said,
Speaker 1: it was not about getting Frump elected. It was about
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play the clip. I'm gonna see what you think.
Speaker 1: So this was pretty crazy. It came out yesterday as
Speaker 1: we're taping this, and Corey Elane has put it in
Speaker 1: our soft in our Soft rep Writers group and I
Speaker 1: think it was to say, hey, I was I was
Speaker 1: right on something. It looks like. So this is from
Speaker 1: CNN exclusive Russian bought black Lives Matter ads on Facebook
Speaker 1: targeted Baltimore and Ferguson. At least one of the Facebook
Speaker 1: ads bought by Russians during the ten presidential campaign referenced
Speaker 1: black Lives Matter and was specifically targeted to reach audiences
Speaker 1: in Ferguson, Missouri, and Baltimore. Sourcing right knowledge of the
Speaker 1: ads told CNN Ferguson and Baltimore tea the widespread attention
Speaker 1: for the large and violent protests over police shootings of
Speaker 1: black men. The decision to target the ad and those
Speaker 1: two cities offers the first look at how counsel linked
Speaker 1: to Russian government affiliated troll farm known as the Internet
Speaker 1: Research Agency, used geographically targeted advertising and so political chaos
Speaker 1: in the United States, the sources said um Facebook had
Speaker 1: previously said that roughly one quarter of the three thousand
Speaker 1: ads bought by the agency were geographically targeted, but it
Speaker 1: is not revealed any specific locations. Facebook has also not
Speaker 1: revealed which gemographic groups and interests groups were targeted by
Speaker 1: the ads. So here's the interesting thing about this. If
Speaker 1: you're a if you're like a die hard listener the
Speaker 1: podcast here's every episode, then you already know. Corey Alanis
Speaker 1: two months ago kind of stated this on the podcast UM,
Speaker 1: and what he was saying was that I think this
Speaker 1: is where I actually get to it. This is was
Speaker 1: to cause chaos and disruption in the system. Before I
Speaker 1: even have you comment on this, because you worked in
Speaker 1: the CIA, Drew, and you you probably know something about
Speaker 1: these type of operations on some level, I feel like
Speaker 1: I should play the clip he Alanis um because people
Speaker 1: loved this clip to him because he had a take
Speaker 1: that no one else was saying, and now it's being
Speaker 1: backed up by some evidence. So I'm just gonna play
Speaker 1: the clip for you guys and like to hear it
Speaker 1: now two months later. So that was a wild ago
Speaker 1: he said this. If it'll play there we go. Forens matters.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, is there evidence
Speaker 1: of any kind of like Russian effect on the Votalian?
Speaker 1: You know, and that starts with the point of this
Speaker 1: is that that starts with a nominally false inductive reasoning,
Speaker 1: the fact that Russians actually influenced the mentality that is
Speaker 1: not Russian effort. The Russian effort is an active as
Speaker 1: as Jack is outlined and other people outlined, it's an
Speaker 1: information operation. To be clear, America, you are the target
Speaker 1: of the information operation, not Donald Trump. Donald Trump is
Speaker 1: an idiot. He is not the fucking target of an
Speaker 1: information operation. If anything, he is probably guilty of having
Speaker 1: business relationships with Russians that would be questionable at best. Um.
Speaker 1: But the target of the information operation in the strate
Speaker 1: strategic communication campaign, it's America. It's Americans, because the Russians
Speaker 1: don't give a funk who you elect in America. They
Speaker 1: care that America collapses and destroys itself and implodes it
Speaker 1: on itself, and they don't care that they control an
Speaker 1: American president that would be retarded. There's no point behind that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, four years of control of some candidate, Okay,
Speaker 1: And after four years you lose control of the candidate,
Speaker 1: and then you have some kind of influence. Whoop de fuck.
Speaker 1: But the end of the day, if what you seek
Speaker 1: is essentially revenge for was basically a fiscal or free
Speaker 1: market revolution um that was basically influenced significantly by the
Speaker 1: United States, And the best way to execute that is
Speaker 1: basically have America died by falling on its own sword,
Speaker 1: and so right, so lose lose faith in its institutions,
Speaker 1: lose faith in the rule of law, lose faith in
Speaker 1: the the electoral college, lose faith in who they vote for. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's that's basically. And I know, I know you're not
Speaker 1: going to agree with the Donald Trump Pardever, that's I
Speaker 1: don't care. I agree with it. Listen, Yeah, why not?
Speaker 1: I agree with what it was because damn, that ship
Speaker 1: was clear, concise and logical. Because if the end game
Speaker 1: is always the long game, am I correct? Especially in
Speaker 1: the intelligence field, the end game is always a long game.
Speaker 1: And think about it, what has what had just recently
Speaker 1: resurged from our past racial tensions? And as you say,
Speaker 1: they bought ads influencing Black Lives Matter because they know
Speaker 1: racial tensions or a create the creation of a racial
Speaker 1: war will be probably the only thing that would divide
Speaker 1: this country. And you know what the infamous saying goes together,
Speaker 1: we stand divided, we fall, of course, because and now
Speaker 1: look at it, it makes perfect fucking sense nowadays. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can go on a date with a girl and
Speaker 1: you know she's probably not political whatsoever, But if she
Speaker 1: finds out you're fucking pro Trump, she'll make funny you
Speaker 1: can probably walk out of the date, you know. And
Speaker 1: and that's the ridiculous thing. And I get there that
Speaker 1: adamant about something they know nothing about because of the
Speaker 1: message sent to them directly. And you know what players
Speaker 1: into that too is remember when Trump did win the election,
Speaker 1: and by the way, whatever your opinion of him is,
Speaker 1: legitimately won the election. And people were like, oh, he
Speaker 1: stole the election because you know, she won the popular vote,
Speaker 1: but he won the electoral vote. Well, that's great, she
Speaker 1: won the contest. They weren't having like she also rigged
Speaker 1: the d n C so that that Bernie Sanders never
Speaker 1: even had a chance. But and that goes to what
Speaker 1: he was saying, the American people lose faith in the
Speaker 1: electoral system. You know that. That's there's so many people
Speaker 1: saying that Donald Trump didn't legitimately win the election. And
Speaker 1: he did legitimately win the election. Did It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: if Russia had any influence with Facebook ads and all
Speaker 1: this other stuff. It doesn't matter. Joe Biden's current book
Speaker 1: that he just wrote, and he wrote the well, aside
Speaker 1: from the obvious reasons, which is the reason that the
Speaker 1: death of his son and all the other things you
Speaker 1: know going on was a hero by the way, it
Speaker 1: was a super Yeah, it's a hero man. What I'm
Speaker 1: trying to say is despite that, he didn't want us
Speaker 1: to inject his family to the screw. And he, however,
Speaker 1: he didn't want to subject his family to the scrutiny
Speaker 1: and the negative attention coming from Hillary's campaign or the
Speaker 1: aggression coming from Hillary's campaign. So he just didn't even
Speaker 1: want to deal with it. Knowing domn well, he probably
Speaker 1: could have won, or Bernie Sounds probably could have won,
Speaker 1: aside from his socialistic agenda. You know. But my point,
Speaker 1: America is going to vote a guy openly, you don't
Speaker 1: know because of what you know. You're looking at the
Speaker 1: other side of the coin, which was especially if an
Speaker 1: active uh campaign to uh be smirch. You know, Donald
Speaker 1: Trump was was being uh it was underway. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe people took to Bernie Sounds more than they took
Speaker 1: to Hillary Clint. Everyone felt and knew Hillary Clinton was
Speaker 1: being forced down the throat of the Democratic partying. There's
Speaker 1: nothing exciding. She was passing out left and right. She
Speaker 1: had ties to your um one crab, the deal. You know,
Speaker 1: she she was as cricket as they come. And you know,
Speaker 1: despite uh you know, Trump's you know, labeling of his
Speaker 1: opponents and stuff like that. Whatever you want to talk about,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, psychological warfare, not the
Speaker 1: truth is behind every joke, there's a little bit of truth.
Speaker 1: She is probably one of the most crooked politicians we've
Speaker 1: ever dealt with, you know, especially just look at her
Speaker 1: income or her net worth. Holiday just boosted from going
Speaker 1: from the first Lady to becoming the head of the
Speaker 1: Department of State, you know what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 1: don't know, uh, the special favors come into play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sure if you look into it, and we actually
Speaker 1: do approve that special counsel to a special investigative counsel
Speaker 1: to go ahead and look into those things like the
Speaker 1: Uranian uranium one deal and so and so forth, we'll
Speaker 1: find a lot of wrongdoing, a lot of wrongdoing within
Speaker 1: her and her campaign and her family. All Right. So
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say is she was forced down
Speaker 1: the Democrats. So I think if anything, the Democrat the
Speaker 1: Democrats of this nation should really really come together and
Speaker 1: say what the funk chuck, what happened. Why were we
Speaker 1: force fed this woman when we knew she wasn't gonna win?
Speaker 1: Why do you hate women? I'm gonna so I'm going
Speaker 1: to get so much crap about that I don't know
Speaker 1: about from this audience. Thank god, I love this audience.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be here sometimes. I get, you know, all
Speaker 1: of us get. I think that's just no, not for nothing,
Speaker 1: not for nothing in this day and age, with with
Speaker 1: this racial divide that we have going on. Of course,
Speaker 1: it's just it's being fed. I mean you look online.
Speaker 1: Everybody's passing around the memes. I mean, guys, like I said,
Speaker 1: felons I can't even fucking vote, are fucking throwing up
Speaker 1: anti Trump memes like bro, worry about getting money in
Speaker 1: your family like you used to before you got locked up.
Speaker 1: All right, you know what I'm saying. That's my point, Like, stop,
Speaker 1: all you're doing is adding fuel to the fire. Listen, America.
Speaker 1: If you don't have a solution to the goddamn problem,
Speaker 1: stop fucking bringing up the problem. Okay, unless you have
Speaker 1: a solution to it, then say something about it, but
Speaker 1: don't be the fuel to the fire. Stop with the spreading.
Speaker 1: They hate the memes and like um. Derek also said,
Speaker 1: with the writer from the Army Times, you know what
Speaker 1: the funk other memes that anti you know, female memes
Speaker 1: and all that, that's bullying, Okay, and you know what,
Speaker 1: we're better than that. We're more mature than that. Okay.
Speaker 1: Let her while wing her own crap whatever it is, Okay,
Speaker 1: whatever you feel she did. She's a journalist. She's gonna
Speaker 1: get you know, she's gonna try to write the most
Speaker 1: provocative piece she can write, or basically try to enforce
Speaker 1: her agenda. That's what writers do, all right, But we
Speaker 1: don't need to stoop to that level. I think what
Speaker 1: Derek is doing is very diplomatic and and honestly probably
Speaker 1: one of the best ways to approach a situation, which
Speaker 1: is going straight to the horse's mouth. You know what,
Speaker 1: sound what I'm saying. But at the end of the day, guys,
Speaker 1: just cut it the hell out, come together. You know,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what your party is. We're fucking Americans, man,
Speaker 1: and we have when we have proof that other nations
Speaker 1: are actively trying to divise us, trying to divide us,
Speaker 1: trying to destroy us. It's it's us against them, that's
Speaker 1: all it is. You know, um two things before we
Speaker 1: get out of here. We had a great email that
Speaker 1: I know you read, so I want to get to that,
Speaker 1: and I want to get to a throat punch of
Speaker 1: the week. You know we're going wrong here and you
Speaker 1: guys better appreciate us going along. So Sam sko Field
Speaker 1: rights to us. Hey guys, my name is Sam Scofield
Speaker 1: and I've been listening for a while down here in Australia,
Speaker 1: which I think is awesome. It's so cool to know,
Speaker 1: you know, what areas we had. It's so sick listening
Speaker 1: to all the war stories you Americans have. You guys
Speaker 1: get into a lot of the action that Australia either
Speaker 1: isn't a part of or as regular civilians just don't
Speaker 1: know that we were a part of any chance you
Speaker 1: guys of you guys shedding some light on what our
Speaker 1: Australian Special Forces to Commando Regiment and s A s
Speaker 1: A s A s R are all about and your
Speaker 1: experiences from working with them. We hear a lot of
Speaker 1: comments about how badass the asses are and there's a
Speaker 1: wide selection of books written about AUSSEE Special Forces units
Speaker 1: and operators in Afghanistan, and I rock, but it would
Speaker 1: be cool to hear a story or two of your
Speaker 1: experiences with them. Recently, the media and public here in
Speaker 1: Australia have been shooting on our essays are and commandos
Speaker 1: for possible war crimes, which majority to me, seemed to
Speaker 1: be occurrences that are a part of the job in
Speaker 1: lack of in lack for a better term, and are
Speaker 1: something people can truly only understand from being in their shoes.
Speaker 1: We even have a commando convicted of murder or something
Speaker 1: along those lines who cleared a room in Afghanistan with
Speaker 1: the grenade because there was gunfire coming from within that room. However,
Speaker 1: women and kids were also killed in the incident. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but said, but as said, and unfortunate as this is,
Speaker 1: if there's gunfire coming from that room, to me, there
Speaker 1: seems to be nothing wrong with what this operator has done.
Speaker 1: It was simply watching out for his own and his
Speaker 1: mates lives, and this terrorist I'm sure would have well
Speaker 1: known that these women and children would have been at
Speaker 1: risk at fire by firing, by him firing from that room.
Speaker 1: It's it sucks that operators can be sentenced with murder.
Speaker 1: For an armchair critic who I have no doubt has
Speaker 1: never seen action in their entire life. Very true. Thanks
Speaker 1: for the awesome work you guys do a soft rep
Speaker 1: especially Ian forgetting all this stuff out to us. You're
Speaker 1: a true professional and badass radio dude. Thank you very much, sir.
Speaker 1: And listening to Jason Delgado is so sick man. From
Speaker 1: what I can tell, he's a great dude. I'm about
Speaker 1: to smash out his book. Keep it up. Cheers, Sam Scofield. Sam,
Speaker 1: interesting question, but more so, interesting dilemma you bring up.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about war. Let's talk about combat. There's no
Speaker 1: gray area in combat. It's positive, it's negative. It's either
Speaker 1: you live, it's either you die, and all of your
Speaker 1: decisions are made in that black and white spectrum. I
Speaker 1: explained this before, so let me go a little bit
Speaker 1: more in depth. As an individual that went into a
Speaker 1: siege of a country initially Iraq two thousand and three,
Speaker 1: as opposed to what is currently going on over there,
Speaker 1: it is a night and day difference when you're taking
Speaker 1: over the country, when you're at war, when you're at
Speaker 1: a life of death situation, when your heart is racing,
Speaker 1: when you know you're you're fighting an opponent that or
Speaker 1: fighting someone or addressing someone that their very goal is
Speaker 1: to kill you, is to send you straight to your maker.
Speaker 1: There is nothing else you can do other than kill
Speaker 1: him before he kills you. And it's that split second decision,
Speaker 1: that that that conditioned response from training, from the mental process,
Speaker 1: and that warrior mentality that will keep you alive because
Speaker 1: you cannot and I repeat this, you cannot and must
Speaker 1: not hesitate on the trigger, hesitate on the very violence
Speaker 1: of action that will bring you home to your of
Speaker 1: ones at the end of the day. Fuck them. It's
Speaker 1: about you and your family and your nation. So that
Speaker 1: being said, if in fact, there was live fire coming
Speaker 1: from the room in the situation you quoted, and this
Speaker 1: individual threw a grenade in there, and that's what his
Speaker 1: training called for, or even better, that's what his instinct
Speaker 1: called for in that situation, and he lived to tell
Speaker 1: the story. You know what they say, I'd rather be
Speaker 1: judged by twelve than carried by six. At the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I'm gonna eat my justice pie. But
Speaker 1: guess what, I'm still fucking eating and then I'm gonna
Speaker 1: shift it out at the end of the day. The
Speaker 1: other guy, I'm sorry, he's maggot food At the end
Speaker 1: of the day, it's about you coming home to the
Speaker 1: people that love you. And it's hard. And I'm you know,
Speaker 1: I've heard it several times before, I've even quoted it once.
Speaker 1: You know, matters of taste. Matters of taste come second
Speaker 1: to war, to aggression, to emotion. Okay, so when it
Speaker 1: comes to trying to stay alive, it's hard to even express.
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to gather the words to to
Speaker 1: just let you guys know that, fuck that. It's hard
Speaker 1: to just say it, funk that I'm coming home. You're
Speaker 1: gonna die if you're coming after me or I'm coming
Speaker 1: after you. And I know you're a quote unquote bad guy.
Speaker 1: In my brief and my answer, you just have to
Speaker 1: trust the process, trust intelligence process, trust whatever you're given.
Speaker 1: The reason why he's at that door in the first
Speaker 1: place must have been some bad ship. Now, all the naysayers,
Speaker 1: all the guys like you said that the armchair what
Speaker 1: do you call it, quarterbacks, arm chair quarterbacks, something like
Speaker 1: arm chair critics, they've never been in that situation. In fact,
Speaker 1: let me tell you something that you guys have a
Speaker 1: luxury of being civilians, Okay, being here at home. You
Speaker 1: have the luxury of rebeling. Uh, just swimming in the
Speaker 1: gray area. Okay. Even in conflict, if you bump it
Speaker 1: to someone in the street and you feel that that
Speaker 1: interaction was somewhat negative or aggressive towards you, you always
Speaker 1: have the option to turn the other cheek and walk away.
Speaker 1: That's the gray area. In combat, bro, you don't have
Speaker 1: that option. If someone's coming after you, it's to murder you.
Speaker 1: If someone bumps into you, it's to kill you. So
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Sit there and die or
Speaker 1: kill in return? That's it. You guys will never understand
Speaker 1: that unless you lived in that life, live or die.
Speaker 1: It's simple. So that being said. As far as the
Speaker 1: sas and and what they are not essay because it
Speaker 1: is say yes, let me tell you they're they're out there, okay.
Speaker 1: As far as as far as the Australian commandos, I means,
Speaker 1: are you know s A s R. And also you
Speaker 1: have you also have um, you know the second command
Speaker 1: of regiment for whatever you know, you have a bunch
Speaker 1: of the command of regiments. You're out there. You have
Speaker 1: you know, you have your own heroes, you have your
Speaker 1: own warriors. I mean guys that have proven themselves in Afghanistan,
Speaker 1: you know, like um, Cameron Bart, Corporal Cameron Bart. I mean,
Speaker 1: look at him, where do you think he died If
Speaker 1: he didn't die in in Afghanistan? I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: he he did work, He put in work, and that's
Speaker 1: what you have to be proud of. As far as
Speaker 1: your guys coming out and talking about it and writing
Speaker 1: books about it, I'm not sure You're gonna have to
Speaker 1: probably look in the legalities of their employment or their
Speaker 1: um their actual uh term in within your military, and
Speaker 1: maybe they're not allowed to talk about this. Maybe they're
Speaker 1: not allowed like us, we're not allowed for eight years
Speaker 1: to speak about what we've done in the military, obligated
Speaker 1: after those eight years were allowed to come out and
Speaker 1: write books and so on and so forth. So you know, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, America kind of gives us that that leniency,
Speaker 1: that that that what do you call it? Transparency, the
Speaker 1: ability to be transparent with our citizens. You know, it's
Speaker 1: that freedom of information thing, you know what I mean. Um,
Speaker 1: But as far as that's if you don't see enough
Speaker 1: of that in Australia, maybe that has something to do
Speaker 1: with it. But the fact that you got you think
Speaker 1: the guys are not out there putting in work. You're
Speaker 1: highly mistaken. And I know for a fact coming back
Speaker 1: from Kabul just recently, like I said in April, I've
Speaker 1: been out there for a little over a year, so
Speaker 1: um this last reason deployment. And I see Australians out
Speaker 1: there all the time, but they're more in a diplomatic
Speaker 1: um setting, but they're patrolling with their diplomats out in Kabul,
Speaker 1: out in the city, out of the i Z. So
Speaker 1: they're out there. You guys are out there. You're part
Speaker 1: of NATO. You guys are holding down your obligations, You're
Speaker 1: you're putting in work. So don't downplay your fucking Special
Speaker 1: Forces just because you're not hearing about them. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe a you've got more silent professionals than we do.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that's a bad thing or a
Speaker 1: good thing. You know. You know how I feel about that.
Speaker 1: We talked about this um but maybe they are obligated
Speaker 1: not to speak, so you know, just give that. But
Speaker 1: your guys have put it in work. Be proud of
Speaker 1: your fucking SF guys. Sometimes it's also just the market
Speaker 1: in America for these type of things is bigger than
Speaker 1: overseas something you know in some countries, maybe it is
Speaker 1: I And from what I understand, Australia has a very
Speaker 1: strict gun laws. You know what they do. So maybe
Speaker 1: your society, your government in general, is an extremely liberal
Speaker 1: one where you know it's you know, it's you know,
Speaker 1: lived by our code or not, you know, one of
Speaker 1: those things, but you know, and then through that, you know,
Speaker 1: certain things like information restrictions and all that stuff come
Speaker 1: come down the pipeline. But your guys are out there.
Speaker 1: I've seen them, and you know, like I said, I
Speaker 1: just quoted one of your guys that just died over there,
Speaker 1: you know, and you know it's sucking sick warrior everybody.
Speaker 1: You know the story. I think they're gonna make a
Speaker 1: book about his story. Actually, to take the truth from
Speaker 1: what I heard, they're making a book or a movie
Speaker 1: about him. So look into that, and that'll give you
Speaker 1: the pride you're looking for, right, Awesome man. The only
Speaker 1: thing I could add to that epic, rent is you
Speaker 1: might have start I was googling or as you were speaking,
Speaker 1: because what you said reminds me of that famous George
Speaker 1: as Patent quote, and I wanted to make sure I
Speaker 1: got the quote, right is uh, I want you to
Speaker 1: remember that no, no bastard ever won a war by
Speaker 1: dying for his country. He wanted by making the other,
Speaker 1: poor dumb bastard died for his country. That's it. At
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you guys have to look
Speaker 1: at the bigger picture. It's about who's got the fucking
Speaker 1: bigger stick and who's who's who has the balls to
Speaker 1: go out and get what they want. You know, it
Speaker 1: gets to a certain point where we could be as
Speaker 1: diplomatic as every liberal out here wants us to be.
Speaker 1: And it's cool in a utopic society. But the problem
Speaker 1: with utopia is humanity. I already said this. You know,
Speaker 1: the issue with humanity in general is that for every
Speaker 1: good guy, you have a bad guy. You know, you
Speaker 1: have that guy that's gonna do whatever it takes to
Speaker 1: acquire wealth, to acquire esteem, and that means even possibly
Speaker 1: you know by you know, ominous means and and and
Speaker 1: and hear me out here, this is this is to clarify.
Speaker 1: There are three types of people in this world. All right,
Speaker 1: there's wolves, and there's sheep, and then there's sheep dogs. Okay,
Speaker 1: if you look at it, if you break it down.
Speaker 1: The wolves are those guys. The wolves are the guys that,
Speaker 1: no matter what, they're gonna kill babies, They're gonna, you know,
Speaker 1: wipe out ethnically cleansed their own countries. They're gonna do
Speaker 1: all this heinous ship to other humans. And then you
Speaker 1: have the sheep, which are those humans at these heinous
Speaker 1: acts are being conducted on. These are grazers of grass.
Speaker 1: These are vegetarians. He's are you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that, as you know, just basically highlighting
Speaker 1: who we're talking about. Who we're talking about civilians, we're
Speaker 1: talking about you guys that rebel in the gray. You're
Speaker 1: fucking sheep, okay, at the end of the day. And
Speaker 1: then we have sheep dogs. Those are your law enforcement.
Speaker 1: Those are your freaking military personnel. Those are your firefighters,
Speaker 1: those are your those are of people that face danger. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Sheep dogs are pack animals. Sheep dogs are aggressive, al right,
Speaker 1: Sheep dogs bark loudly, all right, they eat meat. But
Speaker 1: by God's strength, they do love those sheep and they
Speaker 1: will protect those sheep. And it's because of those goddamn
Speaker 1: sheep dogs. You sheep are allowed to eat your grass.
Speaker 1: Remember that, So don't chastise your sheep dogs. It's it's
Speaker 1: because guys like me, you're able to go and do
Speaker 1: whatever the hell you want to do in this world.
Speaker 1: Remember that we have to keep that line of defense.
Speaker 1: And we'll wrap up a throw punch of the week,
Speaker 1: which I know you want to give to uh the
Speaker 1: U c l A Basketball players stealing in China, which
Speaker 1: is a pretty bonehead move, to say the least. So obviously,
Speaker 1: in the wake of Donald's Trump's visit to China, where
Speaker 1: I think Donald Trump nailed, Donald Trump nailed, you had
Speaker 1: his granddaughter singing to the President of China, you know,
Speaker 1: in Mandarin Chinese, like you know what I mean, This
Speaker 1: is classical. This is classical royalty ship. The way I
Speaker 1: see it, it really is like you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: showing our appreciation for what the Chinese government has done
Speaker 1: and so and so forth. Is that extending that olive branch,
Speaker 1: you know, something so epic like this is I think
Speaker 1: this is gonna be an epic moment that you know,
Speaker 1: will be in the times and you know, several years
Speaker 1: from now. I think that it's that big. But something
Speaker 1: so beautiful that occurred, you know, something that could have
Speaker 1: been a great moment. You got these freaking bone headsle
Speaker 1: Angelo Ball, you know which she's on reality shows now,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, le Angelo Ball. You got
Speaker 1: Cody Riley, Jalen Hill. You know, You've got these guys
Speaker 1: doing what they're staying in his nice fancy mix schmancy
Speaker 1: you know, Chinese hotel. They go to the Louis Vatton store,
Speaker 1: I believe, and they try to steal shades from the
Speaker 1: Louis Vatton store. You know, Okay, whatever they might have
Speaker 1: thought they were being cute, may me, they weren't doing
Speaker 1: it because they were you know, goddamn well, they don't know.
Speaker 1: Stealing in China is not like stealing in America. They
Speaker 1: have no clue, no clue of the freedoms they enjoy
Speaker 1: in America. Like the judicial system is really somewhat of
Speaker 1: a joke over here. It's not like stealing. You know,
Speaker 1: he's a freedom But I know what you mean, dude,
Speaker 1: It's like like you go to fucking Thailand and you
Speaker 1: you you you freaking what was that kid that did
Speaker 1: the graffiti and Thailand and he had to get Kane
Speaker 1: remember that way back way back in the day, Like
Speaker 1: you get Kane for graffiti. Oh way here, you're lucky
Speaker 1: if you even get a fine for graffiti. But that's
Speaker 1: my point, the ignorance of this millennial generation. You know,
Speaker 1: do you know David Show, the artist, great artist by
Speaker 1: the naight um he talked about, you know, he's Korean
Speaker 1: of Korean descent, he's American, but he uh, you know,
Speaker 1: he was a like wild kid before he became this
Speaker 1: millionaire artist. And he stole a bike in Japan and
Speaker 1: he was like, I got treated like ship because I
Speaker 1: was Korean. You know, so a lot of it is
Speaker 1: Asian culture. You know. Still still the bike in America,
Speaker 1: not a big deal. Stealing the bike in Japan. China.
Speaker 1: You know, what I want to say is your respect
Speaker 1: to China, kudos because you know what they're doing to
Speaker 1: those three fucking fools. They just gotta stay in there
Speaker 1: goddamn hotel, hopefully at the college's expense, and I hope
Speaker 1: they run up the biggest fucking bill that USC has
Speaker 1: ever seen. All right, at their expense. They're they're holding
Speaker 1: up up in the hotel to the judicial system in
Speaker 1: China goes through. Tell me that's not in comparison to
Speaker 1: what happened to Otto warm Beer in the Republic of
Speaker 1: North Korea. Isn't that like a slap on the wrist?
Speaker 1: Otto warm Beer stole a damn poster, another fucking idiot.
Speaker 1: But what happened to him was unjust. You know, he
Speaker 1: got arrested, mistreated, abused, and murdered. They murdered the Republic
Speaker 1: of North Korea. Murdered. Yeah, he came back dead. That
Speaker 1: means he was murdered. He was killed because through negligence,
Speaker 1: through whatever the intentional, it doesn't matter. He was murdered
Speaker 1: in the Republic of North Korea for stealing a post there.
Speaker 1: You know, we want to talk about all those guys
Speaker 1: that are, you know, resisting arrest over here and getting
Speaker 1: shot and stuff like that. Like you're resisting arrest, you're
Speaker 1: fighting police officers, you might catch a bullet if you're
Speaker 1: you're you're scaring someone with a gun. Alright, Police are
Speaker 1: human too. They get scared, okay, and if they feel
Speaker 1: that you could potentially kill them, you know, the conflict happened.
Speaker 1: The speed of conflict is faster than anything that could
Speaker 1: ever fucking happen in this world. The speed of conflict
Speaker 1: is like that. That means someone pulling out a gun,
Speaker 1: squeezing the trigger and putting a bullet through your chest.
Speaker 1: Police deal with that every damn day in this nation. Okay,
Speaker 1: and we're alway here complaining about that. But this man
Speaker 1: literally died for trying to steal a poster in the
Speaker 1: Republic of North Korea in China. That's how classy are
Speaker 1: they dealing with the situation. Stay in your hotel, Stay
Speaker 1: in your damn hotel? Are you kidding me? And then
Speaker 1: the way through the diplomatic You know what, I don't
Speaker 1: care what happens to these three fools. They need to
Speaker 1: learn a life a life lesson as men, They need
Speaker 1: to be humble ized's and they get the what a
Speaker 1: throat punch of the goddamn week. So wrapping things up
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Speaker 1: I mean we went well over two hours here. You
Speaker 1: know what, it was a really really good episode. And
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Speaker 1: I don't know and Derek killed it. Man really really
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Speaker 1: you know who I'm psyched for coming up in a
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Speaker 1: and this is a surprise for yes. Episode three hundred
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Speaker 1: because he schooled me on a lot of things as
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Speaker 1: Um that being said, man, thank you for listening and uh,
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