Speaker 1: H ah beautiful. If it doesn't work, you're just not
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Speaker 1: news and straight talk with the guys in the community,
Speaker 1: Army Ranger and Green Beret Jack Murphy Lasagna. Don't get
Speaker 1: any on your Marine Scouts sniper Jason Delgado is just
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Speaker 1: and producer of this operation, Ian Scott l softcrep dot
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Speaker 1: know how many times I had to sound check myself
Speaker 1: sometimes before we do the show with like Mike levels
Speaker 1: and everything. I think we're good now episode three. I
Speaker 1: don't have any horns. So that's where we gotta gonna
Speaker 1: throw it in here, Austin, maybe I will in post. Uh.
Speaker 1: Are you guys digging the new imaging by the way,
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm really excited about at the intro that
Speaker 1: you guys just heard. UM huge shout out to Carol
Speaker 1: of Ryan who did the voice over. UM. John Burns
Speaker 1: performed and recorded that theme music and he went for
Speaker 1: exactly what I was really looking for originally, Like you know,
Speaker 1: it's like, let's do the top gun theme, and it
Speaker 1: was very top gun esque. So, um, if you want
Speaker 1: to check him out, it's John Burns band dot com.
Speaker 1: I gotta throw johnah plug and it's spelled b y
Speaker 1: r n e s John Burns band dot com. And uh,
Speaker 1: John is just one of the most talented musicians I know.
Speaker 1: And the fact that he created that for us unbelievable.
Speaker 1: It was pretty flawless. The Lake Yeah, man, he's he
Speaker 1: records that all at his house as his home studio. Um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we're we're very excited to be doing an
Speaker 1: episode three hundred. I mean, there's it would be a
Speaker 1: lot to get into like what this podcast means to me,
Speaker 1: But the fact that we've been doing this now for
Speaker 1: three hundred episodes, the fact that you could listen to
Speaker 1: back and here like weeks upon weeks or months of
Speaker 1: me rambling with whether it's Jack or Brandon or Jason
Speaker 1: or Drew or any of those guys, is like it's
Speaker 1: insane to me. Um, And it's all thanks to you
Speaker 1: guys who enjoy this. I mean, if if it wasn't
Speaker 1: for all of the listeners really would have nothing. So yes,
Speaker 1: I'm excited about it. Um. First thing to get into
Speaker 1: we had a really awesome time with our friend Andrew Wilcom,
Speaker 1: former co worker at Emmitt ol Looney's, where they raised
Speaker 1: twenty dollars for the Red Circle Foundation operations show out
Speaker 1: wishes for warriors and horses for heroes, like an amazing event.
Speaker 1: They did a really good job. I was super impressed. Um.
Speaker 1: I was supposedly going to leave the pack on the ride,
Speaker 1: but what happened was the way my bank account is
Speaker 1: set up. Um, let's say, yeah, Um, the night before
Speaker 1: I actually you know, had to celebrate them. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I celebrate the Marine Corps uh birthday, right, So what happens,
Speaker 1: you know, in case you don't know, marines for the
Speaker 1: Marine Corps birthday. Even if you know you try not
Speaker 1: to drink, you're probably gonna get obliterated. So that's what happened.
Speaker 1: I woke up, you know, super hungover, and not to mention,
Speaker 1: it was like twenty six degrees. So kudos and shoutouts
Speaker 1: to all those guys that drove in from New Jersey
Speaker 1: off from Tom and nunkn Um New Jersey's Harley Davison Dealership. Um,
Speaker 1: they drove it's like an hour and a half into
Speaker 1: the city, you know, and it was over two hundred
Speaker 1: bikes that came across the city full permits. Got a
Speaker 1: permit to park right in front of Emmadolney's, which was major.
Speaker 1: It was super awesome. Um, my bike was already there.
Speaker 1: I cheated, I meeted, I met them there. You know,
Speaker 1: I got cold, but you know, I figured, at least
Speaker 1: let me show up, you know what, I said, I
Speaker 1: was gonna be that's what we do. I'm gonna be there,
Speaker 1: and got to see the bikes rolling. I thought that
Speaker 1: was worth it. That was definitely worth it. Hearing the rumble,
Speaker 1: watching the police escorts come in. The police officers from
Speaker 1: New Jersey were at the head of the pack, which
Speaker 1: I felt that's exactly where they needed to be. And
Speaker 1: when they rolled up they said the example started parking
Speaker 1: the bikes and and all you know after after that
Speaker 1: rolled in all the other bikers and we moved in.
Speaker 1: They had the his uh area where he was going
Speaker 1: to conduct a live broadcasting in the interviews all set up.
Speaker 1: It was awesome. I thought it was pretty clear. You'll
Speaker 1: see you'll see a lot of those pictures that I
Speaker 1: posted up on the website. I thought it was amazing.
Speaker 1: They did a great job and it went professionally and clean,
Speaker 1: and all the guests were amazing. We even had a
Speaker 1: gym west up there. Um he showed up, and let
Speaker 1: me tell you, man, he is the life of the party.
Speaker 1: People were just like lining up behind him just to
Speaker 1: meet him and shake his hand and buy him a beer.
Speaker 1: And Jim was like, you know, hey, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to drink. I really don't drink. And you
Speaker 1: know when a man like that says, you know, drink, listen,
Speaker 1: he was not drinking, right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: You know, did he not drink? No, But he could
Speaker 1: have turned down drinks. He's such a cool guynth not drink.
Speaker 1: But he said, you know, you know, I don't think
Speaker 1: he does it on his own, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, hey, I'm gonna have a beer. So he
Speaker 1: like tries to, you know, not drink, but he just
Speaker 1: couldn't help it. That night everyone would give was giving
Speaker 1: him and I was I was affected by you know, proximity,
Speaker 1: because all the shots are coming in, all the beers
Speaker 1: are coming and I was right next to them, so
Speaker 1: they were like, yeah, him too, and I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm on my bike. Man. It was amazing though. Man,
Speaker 1: everyone was super super super part of and like he said,
Speaker 1: they raised over what I think it was twenty thousand.
Speaker 1: But but there are people ordering shirts online too. She
Speaker 1: didn't even count that. Um, when you're talking about everybody
Speaker 1: talking to Jim. I even saw will Cow, his wife
Speaker 1: was talking to Jim for like an hour, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: what could Jim possibly talk and be talking about with
Speaker 1: Brittany will Cow? And then I went over to her though,
Speaker 1: and she was like, no, it was a great conversation.
Speaker 1: Probably gonna train her to fight. He's been training a
Speaker 1: female now to fight. And he showed me, like the
Speaker 1: progression pictures conditioning she's ripped. Man, I feel bad whoever
Speaker 1: she gets in the ring was But Jim has been
Speaker 1: doing that, you know, on the weekend sometimes just's training
Speaker 1: fighters to get ready for their professional career. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: heard him, you know, he's talked about it on the
Speaker 1: podcast before. And he showed me the pictures. When he
Speaker 1: originally was showing me the pictures, I'm like, Jim, are
Speaker 1: you hitting this? And he's like no, no, no no, I
Speaker 1: just training there. Although you may never know Jim, Yeah
Speaker 1: he is. He is a ladies man. Um, and you
Speaker 1: got to go on air with with a fell marine
Speaker 1: that you never met before. Yeah, j W. Cortez, Yeah yeah. Um.
Speaker 1: He actually plays Detective Alvarez on Gotham. Got the show,
Speaker 1: got them the I guess prequel Batman or whatever, you know,
Speaker 1: the story of how everyone became into full character. Um.
Speaker 1: And he's a recurring world I want to say, he's
Speaker 1: on almost thirty thirty episodes, twenty eight episodes something like that.
Speaker 1: That's a big, big accomplishment for a marine, you know,
Speaker 1: nonetheless a gunnery sergeant. I believe when he was his
Speaker 1: last rank achieved from what I saw. And I'm just
Speaker 1: you know, page peep and that's what we do. We
Speaker 1: creep um. And so yeah, big big shout out to
Speaker 1: this guy. He was representing, um, the Marine Foundation, Marine
Speaker 1: Corps Foundation, right, uh, Seperate five, Semper five Foundation. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: he was representing the Semper five Foundation and um, he
Speaker 1: was there just raising awareness for the cause. And I
Speaker 1: you know, I was called up by Andrew and you know,
Speaker 1: I just had to reiterate the importance in supporting veterans
Speaker 1: after their service because you know a lot of us
Speaker 1: don't have those uh security safety nets and security measures
Speaker 1: in place after we get out that we'll be able
Speaker 1: to support ourselves and our families, say we're in you know,
Speaker 1: certain situations when it comes mentally or physically or you know,
Speaker 1: any type anything that will hinder us, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: circumnavigating life. You know, we we just have what we
Speaker 1: have via the v A, and sometimes that might not
Speaker 1: be enough. Let's be honest. It's sometimes you know, like
Speaker 1: I said, they do help out, but you know, so
Speaker 1: it's important for those programs to be out there and
Speaker 1: it's veterans helping veterans, just like he was, you know,
Speaker 1: being a spokesman for it. UM. Definitely definitely awesome guy, UM,
Speaker 1: and great things coming from him. I mean, just another
Speaker 1: veteran leader in the community out there doing big things,
Speaker 1: you know, I want to look out for. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: hope to have him on. I did shoot him an email. UM,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it will make something happen. I mean,
Speaker 1: he seems like a very cool guy. Yeah, definitely, and
Speaker 1: a lot of different just her ins in the house
Speaker 1: for the for the event, Um and a lot of
Speaker 1: people who support the military. Uh do you think that
Speaker 1: Mrs Connecticut stole the show? Who anybody that comes in,
Speaker 1: anybody that comes in with the miss anything satchel goring
Speaker 1: across their body, I think they just I think there
Speaker 1: was the She was the literally the only person me, Jim,
Speaker 1: Drew yourself. We we got up to say, hey, would
Speaker 1: you mind taking a picture of us? The whole night
Speaker 1: it was the other way around, Hey Jim, can I
Speaker 1: take a picture with you? Hey guys, you know I've
Speaker 1: heard you in the podcast whatever, you know, And then
Speaker 1: we were the ones who grouping out when Miss Connecticut's
Speaker 1: go get a picture. Drew was very confused because you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully she's not hearing this, but he was like, is
Speaker 1: this Miss Senior Connecticut? He was like, but here's the thing.
Speaker 1: The reason why, it's because she was Mrs Connecticut and
Speaker 1: it's apparently addition, like it's like like that the teen
Speaker 1: queen kind of stuff. Is that what? Well? No, I
Speaker 1: think Miss Connecticut is usually like early twenties and this
Speaker 1: is like a married you know, she's Mrs Connecticut with
Speaker 1: her husband, So it was it was, you know, a
Speaker 1: little bit older, but you know, she still still she
Speaker 1: wasn't attractive, you know, that's what you like. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not that's not that. That's not my cup of tea,
Speaker 1: you know. Bizarre, but it was. It was a great time.
Speaker 1: So shout out to Will cal Um. I really like
Speaker 1: the shirts that they pressed as well. It was really badass.
Speaker 1: That was awesome. And I don't think I have any
Speaker 1: Tan shirts left, so definitely good looks for that. Andrew
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Yeah, you know, I like the Tan shirt.
Speaker 1: It's it's just cool touch show me and I have
Speaker 1: too many black shirts. Um, And hopefully it's sometime we'll
Speaker 1: get Andrew on the podcast because he really is just
Speaker 1: like it would be nice to repay the favorite. You know,
Speaker 1: he's he's done so much for us, you know, for
Speaker 1: me anyways, putting me on the show several times, you know,
Speaker 1: some times already. Yeah, exactly, that's how you know, that's
Speaker 1: how I was introduced to Soft Rep in general. Yeah,
Speaker 1: hell yeah, I would love to get him on the show.
Speaker 1: That'd be great. Yeah, and he really is just the
Speaker 1: true true patriot. And I remember you saying to me,
Speaker 1: you were, like, of all the hosts that I've met
Speaker 1: doing this, you said he's your favorite because he's so
Speaker 1: down to earth like you. You know, you you interact
Speaker 1: with so many people in this industry and TV and audio,
Speaker 1: and they start to somewhat become full of themselves even
Speaker 1: they start to get like their their egos inflated and
Speaker 1: they start to think they're something bigger than what I
Speaker 1: would perceive them to be personally. And this is a
Speaker 1: personal opinion, but Andrew is not one of them. You know,
Speaker 1: this guy is remembers your name, remember who who who
Speaker 1: you are? You know? Um, you know he does things
Speaker 1: for veterans on a constant basis, you know. Um. Like
Speaker 1: I said prior to the event kicking off, he was
Speaker 1: just walking down the street when we came outside, just
Speaker 1: because I think we got a tex saying the bikes
Speaker 1: are rolling up. And when we meet an emmett Um
Speaker 1: for a memito, Luoni's walked outside the establishment here comes
Speaker 1: out to just walking down the uh walking down the
Speaker 1: street with is a producer, Mike right, and they're just
Speaker 1: like two regular dudes and hey, what's up, man, it's up, James,
Speaker 1: what are you doing. You know, we gave each other
Speaker 1: that hugged hugged it out and you know, next you know,
Speaker 1: the phones come out. We're figuring out where we can party.
Speaker 1: Like it felt like I was talking to a friend,
Speaker 1: and you know, to think a man was you know,
Speaker 1: a man with so much success could still sit down
Speaker 1: and kind of like rub elbows with you and have
Speaker 1: a beer with you. That's Andrew Wilka, absolutely, and I
Speaker 1: think that, you know, in this current climate, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of people who um tag onto the veteran cause
Speaker 1: is almost like a gimmick, and they'll do something for
Speaker 1: Veterans Day, you know, only Veterans Day or July fourth
Speaker 1: and be like, hey, we're saluting our veterans, and it's
Speaker 1: almost like something they feel obligated to do. Andrew throughout
Speaker 1: the whole year, it's like this is a cause that
Speaker 1: he truly cares about. You know, I talked about Horses
Speaker 1: for Heroes being one of the one of one of
Speaker 1: the charities that we supported. Like Andrew's been at the
Speaker 1: ranch in New Mexico roade horses with veterans there, and
Speaker 1: it's like for him, this is not a gimmick. It's
Speaker 1: something that he truly is passionate about, and it's a
Speaker 1: cause that he loves. And that's why he does this,
Speaker 1: So yeah, I definitely see the love being reciprocated through
Speaker 1: his fan base because they follow him religiously. I mean
Speaker 1: they showed up. They were there before we were there,
Speaker 1: and I don't think you know, Emmett was probably three
Speaker 1: minutes from opening and he already had that following showing up.
Speaker 1: And these are people that drove up from Georgia and
Speaker 1: that cold weather. Yeah, you know that we had a
Speaker 1: couple come up from Georgia and that freezing cold weather
Speaker 1: just to meet you know, uh, you know the guests.
Speaker 1: You know, I think John gilliam was one of them,
Speaker 1: Um Andrew. They just wanted to meet him and the
Speaker 1: people that they listened to, and they went out their
Speaker 1: way to do that. So to me, that was really
Speaker 1: flattering and that speaks volumes on who he is as
Speaker 1: as a person that they could relate to, you know, absolutely.
Speaker 1: Um So I'm very psyched to have Joel Ortega on
Speaker 1: the show for the first time. I'm gonna let him know,
Speaker 1: you know, no pressure, but this is episode three. You
Speaker 1: better bring better bring your a game. We'll see if
Speaker 1: we're bringing out of him. I don't think he's been
Speaker 1: in the team room for a while. But uh, maybe
Speaker 1: we could get some some juice out of him. I
Speaker 1: think it's also full to have a guy who's gonna
Speaker 1: be on from Puerto Rico. You know, I want to
Speaker 1: hear that situation on the ground. So before that, we
Speaker 1: gotta get to John Schneider. Because as much as we
Speaker 1: enjoyed Emmetts event, there was another big event going on
Speaker 1: across the pond in the UK, which was the Second
Speaker 1: Remembrance Rumble, and this is the second one that John's
Speaker 1: been a part of. John is a Marine. Uh, he
Speaker 1: was in second Battalion for Marines Fox Company and he
Speaker 1: was actually on the All Pro Marine Corps wrestling team.
Speaker 1: So but he's a fighter. Actually, his moniker coming in
Speaker 1: the ring is the fighting Marine, John Schneider. So oor
Speaker 1: John Marine. Anyway, so this is his second Rumble. This
Speaker 1: guy loves to fight and he represents us so well
Speaker 1: like and it was because of him we had the
Speaker 1: killer squad we had this year and we showed up.
Speaker 1: It was great. Um, I think we did outstanding. I'll
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Speaker 1: the first time on the show John Schneider and and
Speaker 1: just to give you some info. John. Before we brought
Speaker 1: you on, Jason and I were talking all about the
Speaker 1: Veterans Day of nademit O Looney's. But on Veterans Day
Speaker 1: you were doing something completely different with soft rep and
Speaker 1: kicking the s in our second Rememberance Rumble, which is
Speaker 1: up on Facebook still for anyone wants to check it out.
Speaker 1: And it's it's an honor to have you on, man,
Speaker 1: Thank you brother to be on so second fight, and
Speaker 1: you know I was a part of the first one.
Speaker 1: I just want to throw it out there. That's where
Speaker 1: I met John. You know remember when we cut Marine
Speaker 1: Corps cake in the Ace Hotel. Yeah, my, my guy,
Speaker 1: he was he was the only Marine out there with me,
Speaker 1: so you know we had to represent hardcore. Um actually
Speaker 1: before we get it, did you do anything like that
Speaker 1: this year with you guys out there, because I know
Speaker 1: it's all Marine we did. I mean, you know, we
Speaker 1: were flood with Marines time and him Marines Deep because
Speaker 1: we had a guy from Won five to Risian prosper
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, we gottah. I mean, we do the
Speaker 1: best we get to. We got to chare me to
Speaker 1: Uh you know, Marine had the first bite. That's amazing.
Speaker 1: That's what we did last time and the same thing
Speaker 1: was a Terry Matsu too man a big ups manage tradition.
Speaker 1: Love that, you see. That's why we gotta keep the
Speaker 1: legacy going. So, um, talk to me about talk to
Speaker 1: me about the fight this time around as opposed to
Speaker 1: the first. More so I want to hear about how
Speaker 1: it came about that this was just an all us
Speaker 1: MC fighting crew. So how did that happen? Well, I
Speaker 1: was talking to Brandon Brandon Webb. Were were talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, making the team for this year and who
Speaker 1: was gonna be on who wasn't gonna be on? And
Speaker 1: I just threw out of here and listen, I have
Speaker 1: a couple of killers from two four that would go
Speaker 1: up to be on the team. And he's like, you
Speaker 1: know what was making the normal marine team this year?
Speaker 1: So we started coming up and uh coming up with
Speaker 1: the team. You know. Uh, he gave the seal approval,
Speaker 1: which he was very happy with the team. And that
Speaker 1: said Jason Drexel, he's from U two four Echo Company.
Speaker 1: He was a small gunner and then uh, George Crimes
Speaker 1: was actually my roommate. He he went to stay platoon
Speaker 1: after after he uh after he left first platoon and
Speaker 1: then he went to recruiting duty his second investment. Um,
Speaker 1: he's actually still fighting. He's a problem to make fighter
Speaker 1: just started his pro career. Is that the one the knockout? Right?
Speaker 1: Right right? And I'll tell you Yeah, I wanted to
Speaker 1: talk about that fight too. But yeah, and then Chris
Speaker 1: in Process, who actually he's a copy of one five. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was with one five. Um, so he was on
Speaker 1: the team suit. So it was the four of us. Great,
Speaker 1: great job. I was so entertained watching the Facebook live video.
Speaker 1: For those of you out there who have not seen it,
Speaker 1: go to soft Rep Facebook soft Rep soft Reps facebook
Speaker 1: page and make sure you take a look at it, because,
Speaker 1: like I said, it was extremely exciting. First fight. Talk
Speaker 1: to me about that, Talk to me about what happened
Speaker 1: with the with Drexel without clients, clients, first clients, I'm sorry, Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: first the first five was actually you know, that's why fight,
Speaker 1: you know, the surveillance and target acquisition. But too, that's
Speaker 1: what we called our sniper platoons in the infantry. But
Speaker 1: but right before the first fight, there was an exhibition
Speaker 1: actually was amazing. You know. It was a guy who
Speaker 1: was wounded hit by a I E. D um An
Speaker 1: f as guy Chris Middleton and was both his legs
Speaker 1: and he was fighting in a wheelchair. Um, I was
Speaker 1: fighting the wheelchair. I mean the guy, the guy, and
Speaker 1: I didn't see a guy for a second with a
Speaker 1: smile off his face. Yeah, it did a great job.
Speaker 1: And then uh, then clients came up towards clients. So
Speaker 1: clients was fighting a guy named Ali who's uh s
Speaker 1: a s vet and uh he he came out very
Speaker 1: aggressive against clients. Was was throwing big shots, landed a few,
Speaker 1: and it was just happen to be in you know,
Speaker 1: within uh you know, in exchange that clients. It was
Speaker 1: the one punch he caught him with. It was probably
Speaker 1: in the last ten seconds in the first round, and
Speaker 1: he looked like he went out cold for about a second.
Speaker 1: And he sat down in the corner between rounds and
Speaker 1: just uh, I guess his corner decided wouldn't be in
Speaker 1: his best interest to come out for a second round.
Speaker 1: So yeah, for his health, you know, it's it's for charity.
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody was trying to take advantage of anybody.
Speaker 1: I think uh, I think you know they was it
Speaker 1: was the heat of the battle, the heat exchange. He
Speaker 1: got cold with a shot. It wasn't like he was hurt,
Speaker 1: and he tried to finish him up. He get hurt
Speaker 1: with one shot and that was it. So yeah, and
Speaker 1: I know I noticed after the fact that kind of
Speaker 1: everybody took a chill pill after that. Was that something
Speaker 1: that you guys discussed as a team After that? I
Speaker 1: thought that about, uh, you want to go into some
Speaker 1: behind the scenes things. They had an unnamed pressive from
Speaker 1: a team come downstairs very concerned, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: just let us know what was happening and let us
Speaker 1: remind us what we're here for. So no, that's cool.
Speaker 1: You know, Jason probably knows exactly. Yeah, of course, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and because you know, you gotta be reminded
Speaker 1: that it's their exhibition fights. Guys. You know, we don't
Speaker 1: want to want to go home jacked up. But you know,
Speaker 1: Marines are Marines were extremely competitive. If you hit me hard,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be a dude watch out. You know,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be okay, that's how you want to play it.
Speaker 1: And I know George Klein's very well and I'll be honest,
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, George knows one speed. Georginals one speed
Speaker 1: and that's with anything. Hey, it's apparent as with as
Speaker 1: with eating food, getting a haircut, getting into a fight. Girls,
Speaker 1: he knows one speed. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I watched the fight and it wasn't like it wasn't
Speaker 1: like he was trying to take advantage. It happened to be.
Speaker 1: You know, in exchange you got quote George's heavy hands
Speaker 1: quote and was shot on the on the button and
Speaker 1: then that was it. Awesome, awesome brother. So while you
Speaker 1: were over there, talk to me about the experience between
Speaker 1: the S A S and our boys, you know, the camaraderie,
Speaker 1: the you know, because they're very very accommodating. Last time
Speaker 1: I was there and you know, I just got I
Speaker 1: just want to speak on that, how extremely professional, courteous
Speaker 1: and considerate. These gentlemen are absolutely a second that. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, the whole event, I mean, the whole event
Speaker 1: evolved this year to a sect to another point, not
Speaker 1: not the camaraderie, because the camaraderie was the last year
Speaker 1: between you know, it was mutual between between us, and
Speaker 1: they were very forthcoming with the hospitality. I mean they
Speaker 1: you know, They weren't asked us to stay longer, offering
Speaker 1: us places to stay, wanting to show us around, taking
Speaker 1: us out. You know, we didn't have to pay for anything.
Speaker 1: We're going out. They wanted to treat us and uh gentlemen,
Speaker 1: total gentlemen, and uh they have a lot of respect
Speaker 1: just like we do for them, they have have the
Speaker 1: same respect for us. It was it was a great experience.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have, you know, friends for life and mr venue.
Speaker 1: So it was a bigger turnout, is what you're saying.
Speaker 1: I would just it evolved. It was just all around.
Speaker 1: It evolved. I believe it was around the same turnout
Speaker 1: because we had last shows the set out as well.
Speaker 1: So I'm not sure exactly how money holds a thousand
Speaker 1: between a thousands hundred people in the place. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: next year. They're definitely gonna need your bigger venue. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was definitely sold out. Um, the actual post the
Speaker 1: videos almost at two hundred thousand views. That's pretty impressive,
Speaker 1: you know, considering Yeah, it was only a couple of
Speaker 1: days ago, and even that day it was it was
Speaker 1: quite a bit. So we're definitely catching way for the
Speaker 1: cause and for the event. Um, I want to see
Speaker 1: next year because at some point I have a feeling
Speaker 1: the British organization, organizers of the event or the charity
Speaker 1: are gonna say, you know what, we had marines versus
Speaker 1: s A. Yes, this year, We're gonna have to cool it.
Speaker 1: Next year. Let's get some rangers of some army, because
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So we need to start
Speaker 1: thinking about that now, you know what I mean, because
Speaker 1: we might get cut off. They might cut you guys
Speaker 1: off at the bar, right they they might exactly, they
Speaker 1: may want us to come over there and train them.
Speaker 1: Oh do do? I saw Brandon this morning and and
Speaker 1: he said like there was a little bit of animosity
Speaker 1: and at how well that our guys did. Is that true? Uh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I was, I was watching me, I was
Speaker 1: watching the live event. I'm not sure someone I was.
Speaker 1: I would definitely expect a little it from s AS side,
Speaker 1: but I saw from the fans side. Um, any time
Speaker 1: we get something good, I mean, they're they're just talking
Speaker 1: about how much better we are, how much more you know,
Speaker 1: more experience, and much younger we are. But you know, listen,
Speaker 1: we be keeping shape and it's not and it's not
Speaker 1: our fault. So to say, it's not our fault that
Speaker 1: we rise to the occasion. When we're asked to do something,
Speaker 1: we do it, and you'll start seeing, you know, traditionally
Speaker 1: speaking more and more Marines are the ones in these
Speaker 1: type types of events. You know, we don't We really
Speaker 1: don't care to get punched in the face, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. It ain't no big deal for us.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, we fight every day. So
Speaker 1: what I want to see is I want to see involvement,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure everyone else does out there too. I
Speaker 1: want to see more involvement from the other communities. What's
Speaker 1: up hopefully next year, you know, Remembers Rumble three, we
Speaker 1: can see some some some love from Rangers or something.
Speaker 1: Let's just kick ass team together. Yeah, we can maybe
Speaker 1: put together an intan borod tournament into military tournament veterans
Speaker 1: and come up with the team from that. It's a
Speaker 1: cool idea, man um. Before we wrap up here, I'm wondering,
Speaker 1: you know, actually, for both of you guys being over there.
Speaker 1: You know you went last year, Jason, what's like the
Speaker 1: difference in attitude between Veterans Day in the US and
Speaker 1: Remembrance Day in the UK. Like the atmosphere, how how
Speaker 1: the people speak with both of you are just wondering
Speaker 1: because I've never been over there. Um, from my point
Speaker 1: of view, it is damn near. The entire township of
Speaker 1: London celebrates Remembrance Day. I think there are not many
Speaker 1: that would dare not wear that poppy on their lapel
Speaker 1: am I right? John? Did it seem like it was?
Speaker 1: It was like everybody involved in it and appreciating their
Speaker 1: veterans and you know the people they lost. You know what, Jason,
Speaker 1: you're taking a was that. I'm out because I get
Speaker 1: goose bumps when I talked to the civilians over there
Speaker 1: and they tell us how much they appreciate us. You
Speaker 1: don't get that in America no more. For the most part,
Speaker 1: it's a widespread in the media. You know, um, the
Speaker 1: whole city for national anthem and how it's not against military,
Speaker 1: but you know, at the end of the day, that's
Speaker 1: what we fight for. And uh, you know they they
Speaker 1: live for that, I mean, and they live for their
Speaker 1: for their armed services. They really it's a very they
Speaker 1: were very emotional civilians of that. I got emotional. I
Speaker 1: got emotional when they all started chanting the same song
Speaker 1: in the arena and you're talking about I don't know
Speaker 1: how many people fit in that arena, your call, but
Speaker 1: it's a lot and a lot of these individuals don't
Speaker 1: know each other, but the songs they chat in unison,
Speaker 1: this is like a part of their tradition. You can
Speaker 1: tell they're they're doing this since they were children. We
Speaker 1: don't have that anymore, you know, and we're just divided.
Speaker 1: We're a nation divided right now, unfortunately, where we're the
Speaker 1: ones who pay the costs. But over there, they still remember,
Speaker 1: you know, they still remember the ones that came before them.
Speaker 1: So hey, John, thank you so much, brother, and thank
Speaker 1: you for constantly stepping up to the plate. Keep it up. Man.
Speaker 1: You're you're definitely you're definitely the guy I called the
Speaker 1: team captain over here. All right, problem a great night YouTube.
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on. And before you go, are you
Speaker 1: on Twitter, Instagram, anything you're promoting? Um, you do a
Speaker 1: lot of things. Come on, throw it out there. Let
Speaker 1: the people know when it comes to you. Now, the
Speaker 1: Fighting Marine, miss it. Let's just check out the Fighting Marine. Alright, alright, alright, alright,
Speaker 1: that works, man. We gotta have you in here in
Speaker 1: studio sometime. I know you're in Jersey. Absolutely, work in
Speaker 1: the city. Every day he works in the city. Let's
Speaker 1: do it. Let's happy and maybe next month or something.
Speaker 1: And I also I also send you a message via
Speaker 1: Instagram you were in London, but a happy belated birthday
Speaker 1: that dog simplify sympathy. Thank you, Man lay So joining
Speaker 1: us as well for the first time on SOFTWAREP Radio.
Speaker 1: Joel Ortega, former Marine Scott sniper and you're currently in
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico as we speak. Before I hand it over
Speaker 1: to Jason to get into everything. And it's an honor
Speaker 1: to speak to you. Uh, not to put too much
Speaker 1: pressure on you, man, but this is episode three hundreds,
Speaker 1: so hopefully this will be an epic one. All right,
Speaker 1: thanks for having me in the show absolutely, brother, brother, brother,
Speaker 1: do me a favor. Can we go through a little resume,
Speaker 1: a little bio. Can you explain to these this younger
Speaker 1: generation of snipers who you are and where you came
Speaker 1: from and how you came up. Yeah, well, Joel Ortega
Speaker 1: originally from San Juan, you know, in Puerto Rico, joining
Speaker 1: ninety four. Uh, it's an infantryman splaining about year and
Speaker 1: a half with to six second Battalion six Marines right
Speaker 1: there at Campbell June. Uh. About a year and a
Speaker 1: half later to the DUC and uh you know joined
Speaker 1: the staple tune, I went to school, you know, became
Speaker 1: sniper all the stuff, and ten years so it wasn't
Speaker 1: instructor at the Second Marine Division school, uh from ninety
Speaker 1: nine to two thousand one. Um, you know, so that's
Speaker 1: that's Second Marine to clarify, that Second Marine Division Scout
Speaker 1: sniper school. That's like the MS producing school what we
Speaker 1: called the beef coach, you know. So and um, just
Speaker 1: just a little a little uh touching on after life
Speaker 1: after the military. Did you do any contracting work or
Speaker 1: any uh courses or the training. No, we'll not contracting.
Speaker 1: Uh some classes here and there. Uh, you know, helped
Speaker 1: up some friends with companies and stuff like that, brought
Speaker 1: people down here to Puerto Rico, like you know, Caldiford,
Speaker 1: Northern Red Day, did things, Ka Tonspooner, all those guys.
Speaker 1: Major guys. But now what's that Those are major guys
Speaker 1: by the way, major major guys. Yeah, yeah they are,
Speaker 1: they are. They are pretty much the rock stars with
Speaker 1: the scene right now, you know. Uh, but no, not
Speaker 1: contracting and you know, just doing woodwork and stuff down here.
Speaker 1: That's what I've been doing since I got out. So
Speaker 1: so you guys know, Joel is um constructing a bar.
Speaker 1: He's about to open it up. It looks down here amazing.
Speaker 1: He does his own woodwork. He's a carpenter, right so
Speaker 1: um he helped me out in Puerto Rico. I went
Speaker 1: down there to go check on my grandparents, and he
Speaker 1: hit me up and was like, brother, I know you
Speaker 1: you're you know, you know you're coming out here. I
Speaker 1: see your post. You know, if you need anything, hit
Speaker 1: me up, and you know, I was like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: might need a ride from the airport. He was Johnny
Speaker 1: on the spot, showed up vehicle through our bags and
Speaker 1: took us to our grandmother's house. Like, honestly, that's true
Speaker 1: brotherhood right there. Man. That being said, when when I
Speaker 1: went into his bar, when we went up to his
Speaker 1: area to check him out how he lives. You know,
Speaker 1: we went up to his bar. He has his picture
Speaker 1: of Chuck Moheeney signed on the on the wall. And
Speaker 1: if you guys, I don't know, Chuck Moheeney is like
Speaker 1: our of our biggest legends in the community, you know.
Speaker 1: Right there, you know, I would say a little bit
Speaker 1: reference to me. You know, I'll probably get killed for this,
Speaker 1: but to me, I actually admire him a bit more
Speaker 1: than you know, some that would be exalted above you know,
Speaker 1: many scott Snipers out there, so um, Chuck Morhen, he
Speaker 1: is definitely the man. I think he's got the He
Speaker 1: had the most confirmed kills in Vietnam. Correct, Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was top guy in Vietnam? Are you hinting it that? Like?
Speaker 1: For him? It's him and then Carlos Hathcock or something,
Speaker 1: you know, I say, you know, if you want to say,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. The thing about moheney Man
Speaker 1: is that nobody knew about him exactly the late nineties.
Speaker 1: You know, everybody knew about hot Cock, you know ever
Speaker 1: since you know he got out of Vietnam and started
Speaker 1: the program in but no one knew about this old guy,
Speaker 1: you know, until ninety nine. I believe it was when
Speaker 1: he came out respect pretty much has he respected a
Speaker 1: little bit more as like a quiet professional that whole exactly.
Speaker 1: It's one of those things where the community kind of
Speaker 1: exalted him. You know, the community decided, you know, why
Speaker 1: the hell are we not telling your story? You know,
Speaker 1: vice this one because it deserves to be told, I
Speaker 1: think you're a badass individual. And in Sniper School, we
Speaker 1: honor him by giving the high Shooter Award, which we
Speaker 1: call the Chuck Moheney High Shooter Award, to the individual
Speaker 1: who scored the highest on the on the on the
Speaker 1: range portion of Sniper School, which is an extreme honor,
Speaker 1: you know. And to even have that, uh, have that
Speaker 1: accolade named after you, that's amazing. That's how much we really,
Speaker 1: uh you know, praise this guy. Um. So I'm thinking
Speaker 1: straight out the gate, if I was to roll up
Speaker 1: to Puerto Rico and I just happened to stumble into
Speaker 1: your bar and I see this picture of Chuck Moheney
Speaker 1: on the wall, how crazy would that? It would just
Speaker 1: blow my mind because I didn't even I thought I was, like,
Speaker 1: you know, one of like maybe two Puerto Rican Scott
Speaker 1: snipers in the world, you know, but you know, here
Speaker 1: you are waving the F I proudly I thought that
Speaker 1: was about the freakiest thing in the world for me.
Speaker 1: But what I thought was more interesting was when I
Speaker 1: asked you how the hell did you get his signature?
Speaker 1: And the story you told McKay you tell me that
Speaker 1: story again, Yeah, of course. Man back at ninety nine,
Speaker 1: I was just graduating and get fans force in Quantico
Speaker 1: and then he was the guest speaker. So they told us, hey,
Speaker 1: Chuck Money is coming today. He's gonna be the guest
Speaker 1: speaker for you guys graduation. So we're like cool. Uh
Speaker 1: that day we were on the barracks as we're walking
Speaker 1: back to the schoolhouse. Uh, the instructor had she's got
Speaker 1: a number. It's got like a keypad. You got a
Speaker 1: punch in the number. Door opens you going. So the
Speaker 1: door opens outwards, so I'm going in. I punching the
Speaker 1: number to go inside, you know what the instructors are at,
Speaker 1: and I'm pulling on the doorknob outwards. But I can
Speaker 1: feel someone like trying to open the door inwards. You know.
Speaker 1: I janked on the door, and you know, jank the
Speaker 1: door open. I see a body flying out, which is
Speaker 1: the other guy whole then the adorn up on the
Speaker 1: inside and it's a little skinny guy. When I look
Speaker 1: at that, you know, the guy that just flew out,
Speaker 1: it was chuckin and I was saying about and he
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I'm sorry, and I'm like, no, the
Speaker 1: one that's sorry you know, and he was like, are
Speaker 1: you one of the instructors or one of the guys
Speaker 1: graduating today? And I was like yeah. So he was
Speaker 1: like hey, yeah. You know, from inside, he had like,
Speaker 1: you know, one of these like Sam's Night Leather briefcaste
Speaker 1: or whatever. So we go inside the instructor area. He
Speaker 1: opens it up and pulls out a picture. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: holy crap, he's gonna get me a picture, you know,
Speaker 1: the picture that we see everywhere in schoolhouses or books
Speaker 1: or whatever. He had it right. So he pulls it
Speaker 1: out and he turns around and he's like, what's your name?
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm still in shock, you know, I'm like,
Speaker 1: my name is starting Ortega. He goes down, you know,
Speaker 1: he bends over to the over to the desk and
Speaker 1: he starts writing like simplified, this isn't bad. Then he
Speaker 1: turns around again. He's like, no, it's your name, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, my name is Joel. So he wrote it down.
Speaker 1: He wrote, you know, Joel on the picture, turns around,
Speaker 1: get it back to me, you know, And that's that's
Speaker 1: pretty much the story right here. Dude. That's amazing story.
Speaker 1: I wish I had a story was a legend like that. Um,
Speaker 1: speaking of which you have another story of a legend
Speaker 1: you know, um that I really didn't know much of.
Speaker 1: Can you kind of let us know who masses are?
Speaker 1: Neil Morris? It was and is um. I thought it
Speaker 1: was pretty interesting the story you told me. As far
Speaker 1: as his position in the Marine Corps, Yeah, Neil Morrishman
Speaker 1: the reason why like a lot of people don't know
Speaker 1: about him, you know, uh and like you know, the
Speaker 1: newer guys, the newer generation of Scoff's nine percent Marine
Speaker 1: cors because you know, to me and a lot of people,
Speaker 1: that guy right there is the epit of me of
Speaker 1: what a silent professional is you know. But this guy
Speaker 1: right here manque you know story and the guy he
Speaker 1: pretty much wrote the curriculum, you know, for pretty much
Speaker 1: all the schools we have in the bancor or or
Speaker 1: at least in our time frame. Um. You know Scott
Speaker 1: Sniper basic course, the urban one, because he was the
Speaker 1: head guy for special uh you know, Mission French for
Speaker 1: st a Special Operations training group and he was also
Speaker 1: the one that created they had done scores and these
Speaker 1: guys the only you know marine also that was the
Speaker 1: Stephen c Oi c for all three schools. You know,
Speaker 1: he was Stephen co Oc for Pendualti School, then Quantico
Speaker 1: and the last one was you know the second Marine
Speaker 1: Division at a Stone Bay. And anyway, he retired like
Speaker 1: after twenty six years in two thousand and one of
Speaker 1: the Masters organ And at the time when he retired,
Speaker 1: he was he was one of the biggest advocates for
Speaker 1: the uh Scoff Sniper Company. The thing that they have
Speaker 1: in a stack handled on this you know, they are stack. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was the guy talking about that like back in
Speaker 1: the mid nineties. You know. That's that's how I head
Speaker 1: up his time, this this guy I was and uh funnyway,
Speaker 1: he was always talking about, you know, the Scott Sniper
Speaker 1: Company at the petition level. And so following his dream,
Speaker 1: like towards the end of his career, they pretty much
Speaker 1: created a position called the Master Sniper, you know, the
Speaker 1: Marine Corps Master Sniper. Any it was pretty much the
Speaker 1: senior scout sniper the Marine Corps, you know, and his
Speaker 1: old purpose was like to oversee the whole like training
Speaker 1: program and you know, the whole Scoff sniper program in
Speaker 1: the Marine Corps. But that that's that's as far as
Speaker 1: that you know that he never saw the company even
Speaker 1: though that's what he wanted and and pretty much he
Speaker 1: outered that. But so that's that's pretty much it right
Speaker 1: there for him. I've I've never I didn't know that
Speaker 1: there was such a billet as a Master Sniper billet
Speaker 1: in the Marine Corps until he told the story, Billy,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't hear it. I didn't hear
Speaker 1: of it, and I or should I say, when I
Speaker 1: was teaching an s ot G and then you know,
Speaker 1: subsequently later on in marsoc Um when we transition, Um,
Speaker 1: I didn't have to deal with anybody that was in
Speaker 1: that billet master sniper billet for like you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know coming down for curriculum review anything. I mean,
Speaker 1: we had we had guys that were, you know, legends
Speaker 1: within the community, like the Vein you remember him. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, those guys will always be at the forefront
Speaker 1: of trying to push new doctrine or trying to square
Speaker 1: away issues that we had within the community. But I
Speaker 1: didn't know there was an actual Master Sniper billet. And
Speaker 1: you know, this guy was obviously the first one to
Speaker 1: hold it. I'm not sure they even continue it you know,
Speaker 1: all I know is that I thought that was interesting
Speaker 1: historical little fact that I kind of want to you know,
Speaker 1: put on air and that people remember, you know, knowing. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I said, man, that's pretty much when the whole
Speaker 1: talk about the Sniper Company came about. And this is
Speaker 1: this is laid back in last time I heard, you know,
Speaker 1: what I was saying conversations or you know, even mentioned
Speaker 1: in the Scuff Sniper Company was like a ninety nine
Speaker 1: two thousand time frame, you know, he got on two
Speaker 1: thousand one, and he wanted to do that. So what
Speaker 1: are you like, what are you That's as far as
Speaker 1: said Dad, what are your thoughts on on the our
Speaker 1: stack on on the Regimental Surveying Target Acquisition Company. I
Speaker 1: haven't read too much about it, man, but I think
Speaker 1: it's good. I think if they can do it like
Speaker 1: what Morris wanted to do at the time. He didn't
Speaker 1: want it as the regimental level. He wanted to do
Speaker 1: that thing as a division level, you know, like a
Speaker 1: division scuff sniper company. And you know at the time
Speaker 1: when when when he talked about it, and and and
Speaker 1: and it was like you know, rumors going around about
Speaker 1: this company and stuff. It was. It seemed like a
Speaker 1: good idea, man, because it's like, yeah, the training will
Speaker 1: be the same for everyone. You know, the money, maybe
Speaker 1: you can stay in the community longer. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: because you know how it was in our time when
Speaker 1: you hit steps forward and already year out, that's still
Speaker 1: a huge problem. Just to spend you up on the problem,
Speaker 1: just to spend you up on what they have. I
Speaker 1: think they wanted to outfit uh four platoons for the regiment, right,
Speaker 1: and then uh, those four platoons were active will be
Speaker 1: active sniper platoons, and then there'll be a fifth platoon
Speaker 1: which is a training cadre, and the training cadre would
Speaker 1: be senior sniper senior hogs in charge of the training
Speaker 1: and the indoctrination process for the company. And obviously you
Speaker 1: have headquarters elements, stuff like that, um as the stats. Now,
Speaker 1: I think my last the last word I received was
Speaker 1: that they only have two platoons stood up and that
Speaker 1: when they send out it for in doctrination, it's it's
Speaker 1: a regimental wide uh Fifth Marines wide call where they'll
Speaker 1: you know, pull the best from the different battalions and
Speaker 1: you know, kind of run the indoctrination Um. That being
Speaker 1: said that, the issue is that now you have, instead
Speaker 1: of three quotas going to a battalion, four quarters going
Speaker 1: to theion too going to another now you have all
Speaker 1: the quotas going to our stack. And the issue with
Speaker 1: that not a huge issue. It's just that there's gonna
Speaker 1: be a tremendous amount of marines within this company. So
Speaker 1: not all of them, AND's be honest, not all of
Speaker 1: them are going to be able to get to sniper
Speaker 1: school unless something happens within the program in and of itself,
Speaker 1: which they're there. You know, some people are kicking around
Speaker 1: ideas of making maybe you know, just one primary sniper
Speaker 1: school and running more courses UH concurrently, you know, so
Speaker 1: that way they could put pipeline more guys through the
Speaker 1: actual UH sniper course. And I think that's good. I
Speaker 1: don't think everybody doesn't need to go to sniper school,
Speaker 1: you know, and and and and you know, like I mean,
Speaker 1: back in this man, I never saw a Scott sniper
Speaker 1: platoon where everyone was, yeah, it's not gonna happen. And
Speaker 1: you have guys that they're good at communications, they go
Speaker 1: to communications schools, they go to older schools, you know,
Speaker 1: and you need that so, and that's and that's what
Speaker 1: they said. If they run in something like similar to
Speaker 1: the reconnaissance community, not everyone's going to get to jump,
Speaker 1: Not everyone's gonna get to dive, not ever. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just a matter of who you are within that
Speaker 1: union and how important of an asset you become. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's good that you mentioned the end because I
Speaker 1: tell you something about that and I saw this when
Speaker 1: I wasn't instructor of school. Uh. The thing the good
Speaker 1: thing about the company you know, our stack or you
Speaker 1: know division company that ever happens that way, is that
Speaker 1: everybody's going to go to the same pipeline. You know,
Speaker 1: when I was in instructor of school, you had guys
Speaker 1: that that you asked around and like hey, I mean,
Speaker 1: like are you guys doing for them? We run a
Speaker 1: one week end up, I know the battalion. It's like
Speaker 1: we haven't one you know another one? It's like we
Speaker 1: have a wee can happened that? And it's like, you
Speaker 1: know what's going on? Boy? Can everybody be the same
Speaker 1: the same, the same as across the board for the
Speaker 1: training where should I say s OPS the standing operating procedures,
Speaker 1: that's another thing too, because it's a hot bag of
Speaker 1: skittles by the time it's coming from the different the
Speaker 1: multitudes of battalions, and then you consolidate them all into
Speaker 1: school and it's like, okay, so I guess that is
Speaker 1: a great I agree with you, that's a great thing. Um.
Speaker 1: As far as the retention, that is still an issue,
Speaker 1: and it's still remain an issue. Do you know that obviously?
Speaker 1: You know, um, the intention in changing the MOS to oh,
Speaker 1: three seventeen from one or in which they push that
Speaker 1: initiative was basically claiming that it would become eventually a
Speaker 1: primary MOS. Right you heard this before? Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: that's when I went to plant and ten they already
Speaker 1: changed the ms, and that's that's when I that And
Speaker 1: you know, I asked and I was say, hey, what
Speaker 1: why they change you know, th seventeen you know from one,
Speaker 1: And they were like, well, they're gonna try to make
Speaker 1: it and uh, you know, primary ms. But but but
Speaker 1: you know, it hasn't happened yet. You know, it hasn't happened,
Speaker 1: and that I don't know why they even changed the
Speaker 1: numbers around. If there's no difference, it is still considered
Speaker 1: a billeted or secondary MOS um or a billeted at MS.
Speaker 1: So guys are still getting promoted off of the field
Speaker 1: of the primary MOS. More so, the important thing is,
Speaker 1: as you say, within this new company, we're losing all
Speaker 1: the senior guys once they hit staff n c O
Speaker 1: to their monitors. And now these staff n c o
Speaker 1: s are getting pushed into you know, other billets that
Speaker 1: are you know, not within their specialized field, and vice versa.
Speaker 1: As a double sword, we're also getting guys from security
Speaker 1: forces and banger coming in to run these platoons having
Speaker 1: a clue of what they're doing, and we have to
Speaker 1: spin them up just as much as we have to
Speaker 1: spin up a pig. Which a pig, for those guys
Speaker 1: out there, is a professionally instructed gunman and a hog
Speaker 1: is a hunter of gunmen. So the difference between a
Speaker 1: pig and a hog was freaking everything if you ask
Speaker 1: a sniper. But a pig is someone who is freshly
Speaker 1: uh indoctrinated um recruit within the platoon and he has
Speaker 1: to prove himself and then go to school and get
Speaker 1: the MOS and he'll become a hog. So what do
Speaker 1: you think we're what do you think about that The
Speaker 1: whole retention issue in the Marine Corps, and you know
Speaker 1: how it's kind of left a lot of our our
Speaker 1: forces kind of like hung hung out to dry well.
Speaker 1: When I got out, man, we kept numbers of school
Speaker 1: like we hit numbers of school like, hey, how many
Speaker 1: active you know pipers that we have right now? How
Speaker 1: many are we enlisted? I remember one year, man, the
Speaker 1: re enlistment you know, percentage for was zero, you know,
Speaker 1: and and I'm one those guys right there. They came
Speaker 1: time around for me to re enlist, you know, they
Speaker 1: were like, hey, we need you to either do a
Speaker 1: bi billy or go back to a line company. I
Speaker 1: was like, no, I don't want to do that, you know,
Speaker 1: I want to stay within the community. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I mean, look at all the schools that I've done,
Speaker 1: they all have to do with this job right here,
Speaker 1: and you want me, after you know, all these years,
Speaker 1: to go back, you know, to a line company, you know,
Speaker 1: a line unit or do a bi bility. And you
Speaker 1: know what the bibilities are, you know, they either draining,
Speaker 1: structured or recruiters you know, MSG stuff like that. And
Speaker 1: so one thing about this, the you know, retention and
Speaker 1: the company and stuff like that. You know, all I
Speaker 1: see about this company is it's good for training wise,
Speaker 1: for you know, unique cohesion obviously you have a bunch
Speaker 1: of people now, uh, but for retention is that I'm
Speaker 1: not really clear and base. You know, I've been out
Speaker 1: for a while, but it seems to me that is
Speaker 1: still the same problem. You know, it seems to me
Speaker 1: like it's a company. I mean, how many he takes us?
Speaker 1: Can you have in a company? You know, maybe a
Speaker 1: gun he's the one running in or whatever. But but
Speaker 1: that's just that one guy. And you know, I think
Speaker 1: that to happen in such a vital you know job
Speaker 1: as what we did. You know, Yeah, maybe we can
Speaker 1: get attention to the to the to the cause, man.
Speaker 1: But the truth is to to those younger, uh younger
Speaker 1: members of the audience, guys that are thinking and you're
Speaker 1: teetering on the line of what unit you want to
Speaker 1: join within the Marine Corps UM, I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: say it as of now until they figure that out.
Speaker 1: If you're looking to have a long career within specialized
Speaker 1: in most or uh special operations like UM environment UM
Speaker 1: reconnaissance is definitely gonna be the best way there. The
Speaker 1: reconnaissance community. More so probably MARSOC because they're so calm,
Speaker 1: and once you're so calm, you'll stay in so calm
Speaker 1: so you can even operate as a matter. Sorry, And
Speaker 1: if you want or up to that rank from what
Speaker 1: I understand, um, I think, I think if you want
Speaker 1: to stay within the community, Marshak is probably the best bet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you want, yeah, the same thing subjected to the monitor. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: If you want to do you know, a specialized job
Speaker 1: or whatever, and you want to you know, make it
Speaker 1: a career path, then in the Marine Corps, MARSHA best
Speaker 1: bet right now, Yep, that's definitely it. And same advice
Speaker 1: I got for all the younger guys coming up or
Speaker 1: even the guys within the Marine Corps. Now I'm thinking
Speaker 1: about going to Scott Sniper. Remember you can go to
Speaker 1: Scout Sniper School and become a hug in the reconnaissance
Speaker 1: community and in Marsacco. So keep that in mind. Um.
Speaker 1: But that being said, I don't want to take away
Speaker 1: from the battalions. They need their Scout sniper assets. But
Speaker 1: just keep in mind Marine Corps Headquarters, Marine Corps, you're
Speaker 1: doing the guys in extreme injustice by not following through
Speaker 1: with the promise of making a three seventeen a primary mos. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's where you're gonna always have your retention issues. You're
Speaker 1: keeping guys and realisting, Um can we can we kind
Speaker 1: of like transition into Puerto Rico, I kind of I
Speaker 1: want to. I want to hear what what your initial
Speaker 1: thoughts were a big beginning hurricane, you know, yeah, I
Speaker 1: love there. And also because you know, Jason, you were
Speaker 1: in Puerto Rico. But I'm assuming for Joel it's got
Speaker 1: to be different to be, you know, living there. This
Speaker 1: is where he calls his home. You get to come
Speaker 1: back to New York. So yeah, yeah, well, uh to
Speaker 1: start with men and and Jason, you were here and
Speaker 1: I don't know what you've seen in the Newseum, but
Speaker 1: Hererican Maria it's been the worst natural disaster in Puerto
Speaker 1: Rican history by far, you know, but it's it's it's
Speaker 1: worse than Hugo George's you know, but it's been the worst.
Speaker 1: I believe it is the first time that the whole
Speaker 1: you know, island is like off the gride and in
Speaker 1: power wise, I mean, you know, no power, no coming occations,
Speaker 1: no nothing. And it was like that for I would say,
Speaker 1: communications wise, a few days, like I had no signal,
Speaker 1: no nothing, landline, cell phone, like for about four days.
Speaker 1: You know, after four or five days, in certain spots
Speaker 1: you know, around the island you could get some signal,
Speaker 1: you know, and and and that's about it right there.
Speaker 1: When Jason came over, it was like about I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe four weeks after the hurrican Jason, Yeah, a little
Speaker 1: bit something closer that. Yeah, something like that. It took
Speaker 1: us a lot away. Yeah, it took us a lot
Speaker 1: away from the airports to open up, to get tickets
Speaker 1: out of decent price. It was just chaotic, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: What I'm trying to get that is after you know,
Speaker 1: after four or five weeks, Uh, the whole island had
Speaker 1: like maybe eighteen percent of power you know on like water, Uh,
Speaker 1: communications like maybe thirty. But today, I mean today's November fourteen.
Speaker 1: Right now, it's like there's tomorrow, there's a deadline. Tomorrow
Speaker 1: is supposed to be power. But I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's gonna be met. The governor saying yes, the guy
Speaker 1: in charge of the power authority down here, he's saying yes.
Speaker 1: But then you have the Army Corps of Engineers saying No,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen, you know. So what's gonna happen
Speaker 1: tomorrow for that deadline, I don't know. They're saying by
Speaker 1: December fifteen, we're supposed to have ninety five Army Corps
Speaker 1: of Engineers once again saying that will be achieved by
Speaker 1: February marsh time. So they're being a little bit more realistic,
Speaker 1: and I feel the governor and the head of the
Speaker 1: power is being a little bit more political. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that that's what it is. That's what it is, you know.
Speaker 1: And then remember the governor, he goes by what he's
Speaker 1: being told, you know, So that's that's what he tells
Speaker 1: you know, the people. You know, do you think it
Speaker 1: maybe it's about putting some pressure on Washington to go
Speaker 1: do something. Say it again, and you think part of
Speaker 1: that is to put some pressure on here on Washington
Speaker 1: to get involved. Well, they've been trying. You know, he's
Speaker 1: been in Washington twice already. Um like, feel like down here,
Speaker 1: communications starts our scars and you know, the TV and
Speaker 1: you know, uh so we don't really know much of
Speaker 1: of what's going on. Sometimes you know, you can sit
Speaker 1: on the newspaper, but he he's been going over there,
Speaker 1: and you know, and even when the President came over,
Speaker 1: you know, he tried to you know, to get some help.
Speaker 1: But like, look, you know, like things happened faster for
Speaker 1: you know, Texas where sample with Harvey, for New Orleans
Speaker 1: and the for Katrina, you know, for Florida, for Airman,
Speaker 1: you know, and and like here we are and we
Speaker 1: need to help. But it feels i mean, without getting
Speaker 1: into politics, you know, so I don't like it too much.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the process for Puerto Rico has been really, really,
Speaker 1: really slow. And I know that we have a you know,
Speaker 1: geographical situation because we're not attached by land by Conan,
Speaker 1: but be not still that I agree. I agree with
Speaker 1: you in the aspect that the communication could probably be
Speaker 1: ten times better if there was consideration of that very thing.
Speaker 1: I think people need to be informed a's to what's
Speaker 1: going on. For me, it's more when I went out there,
Speaker 1: it was more of a I'm being told something just
Speaker 1: to stay, just to be just to be silenced, you know.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's nothing factual to what I'm being told,
Speaker 1: but it's just too you know, keep it was just
Speaker 1: it was just bits and pieces of information. You know,
Speaker 1: never something like really really concrete, you know, where you
Speaker 1: can like grasp and be like, okay, this is this now.
Speaker 1: It was like bits of information that you have to
Speaker 1: put together and kind of figure you know, what's going on.
Speaker 1: You know, when you're you, when you have a family,
Speaker 1: when you have kids, you know, and everybody's asking you,
Speaker 1: you know, then you have to like travel these bits
Speaker 1: and pieces that you put together, you know, and like
Speaker 1: try to pass the information onto them. You know. It's
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to keep everything you know together
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So, I mean it's getting better.
Speaker 1: It's a lot better than when you came over, Jason. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know pretty much it's like eighty percent water right now.
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure about the power. You know, they're
Speaker 1: saying fifty by tomorrow. I think we're close to that. Uh.
Speaker 1: Communications are better, obviously, I'm talking to you guys, so
Speaker 1: this this wouldn't be impossible. Um, And it's great that
Speaker 1: we have military personnel you know that we could talk
Speaker 1: to and connections over there and like get the reel
Speaker 1: on the ground story. Um, Joel, I gotta hear your
Speaker 1: take on when Jason was there on what's going on
Speaker 1: with the shipping situation, because all I know is Jason
Speaker 1: standing like he was ready to beat the ship out
Speaker 1: of someone at UPS. Yeah yeah, well yeah, and he
Speaker 1: went to that experience and like two days before it
Speaker 1: was me. The same thing happened to you. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: It's like this is the thing when people were standing.
Speaker 1: I mean, I got a you know, a bunch of
Speaker 1: brothers out there, you know, sending care packages, you know,
Speaker 1: like four or five, six, seven packages. The first one
Speaker 1: I got it six weeks after it was sent six weeks,
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm I'm lucky because I got all
Speaker 1: my packages, but there's a lot of people that they didn't.
Speaker 1: I'm wondering what the reasons, you know, the way you
Speaker 1: made it. I'm wondering the reasoning though, because the way
Speaker 1: you made it sound, Jason like you think there's some
Speaker 1: politics involved. I definitely think there was politics above. Like
Speaker 1: I said, it's an illogical It's illogical for me to
Speaker 1: see franchises getting their mail, getting their supplies to continue
Speaker 1: selling product and making money, but individuals can't receive. I'm
Speaker 1: going to through how it is, and Jason knows this,
Speaker 1: but there was a lot of stealing too, you know.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say which ones, but there were you know,
Speaker 1: mail services were they were giving people open boxes with
Speaker 1: their stuff missing, you know, and stuff that never made it,
Speaker 1: you know, supposedly, you know, so I understand also there
Speaker 1: was some big, big overflow of you know, hagagess and
Speaker 1: mail coming a note and a person now. But you
Speaker 1: know it's it's also they added to when you go
Speaker 1: to the places, you know, there's yeah, they don't have
Speaker 1: that adapt and overcome mentality like whoever the and and
Speaker 1: you know what, this this is a big this is
Speaker 1: what this was a big lesson, a big route awakening
Speaker 1: for the leadership in Puerto Rico. Whether it's a business
Speaker 1: or whether it's political. This was this I would give
Speaker 1: this situation and the way they responded to it and
Speaker 1: F and epic F because I I didn't see any
Speaker 1: leader taking the bull by the horns, adapting and overcoming
Speaker 1: to the situation and and being on the ground with
Speaker 1: their people and coming up with solutions and at least
Speaker 1: a form of communication where people can receive their messages
Speaker 1: or their their information um as what as far as
Speaker 1: um the disaster reliefs are concerned, you know, But what
Speaker 1: I did notice is a tremendous amount of money and
Speaker 1: supplies flooding the island. But the problem is these didn't
Speaker 1: continue to trickle down to those who needed it. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and that to me was an extreme
Speaker 1: lack of leadership or the reflective of an extreme lack
Speaker 1: of leadership. You're still there, Joe, Do we lose you? Man?
Speaker 1: We just we just talked about the community cations being good.
Speaker 1: It's like, uh, hopefully we still get there. We go
Speaker 1: all right, I'm surprised it happened so late in the game.
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. But do you think we should leave
Speaker 1: that in there? I just I just like I said
Speaker 1: my last point um that I brought up and that
Speaker 1: I even want to deal with. It's just an extreme
Speaker 1: lack of leadership, is what happened. You know. Um, those
Speaker 1: who are a point it leaders or business leaders, they're
Speaker 1: they're really falling short on their responsibilities. And I think
Speaker 1: maybe we need to look at this or who we
Speaker 1: appoint and see what the experience they have in these situations.
Speaker 1: And there's there's a lot of things that happened to
Speaker 1: not only would you know, regular male stuff, but I
Speaker 1: don't know if if some of this happened when you
Speaker 1: were down here. But like you know, some of some
Speaker 1: of the athletes from port Rico, you know, like Carlo
Speaker 1: felt Tran and you know Jaddie Molina, all those guys
Speaker 1: right there. They spend shipments down here, you know, with
Speaker 1: food supplies, all kind of stuff, and some of them
Speaker 1: disappear when they got down here. I believe it, and
Speaker 1: I had a buddy it did happen, you know, and
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, you know, we send like two containers
Speaker 1: down there and one is missing, and like, how do
Speaker 1: you lose a fifty three food container? You know? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had I had a buddy tell me. They collected
Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff, you know, generators, chainsaws and whatnot,
Speaker 1: and they had it on the flight line in an
Speaker 1: airport in North Carolina for you know. Ever. You know,
Speaker 1: it's been there for like four or five weeks at
Speaker 1: that point from when he told me, which makes sense
Speaker 1: because I was there about six weeks, four weeks after
Speaker 1: the fact, um four weeks after the fact, and he
Speaker 1: told me it was still there for about four weeks.
Speaker 1: And so everyone did their part, everyone over here in
Speaker 1: the US man everyone actually pulled together and collected in
Speaker 1: a tremendous, tremendous, tremendous amount of aid to send to
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico. Everyone did their part. Each individual out here
Speaker 1: did their part. Like he said, he had buddies do
Speaker 1: the same thing with care packages for him. I mean
Speaker 1: everyone did it. You know. You look at social media,
Speaker 1: it looked like everyone was involved, right, and we had
Speaker 1: truckloads of aid and supplies going out, but nothing was
Speaker 1: getting there, whether it was the and I think it was.
Speaker 1: And and and even if it was getting there, here's the
Speaker 1: crazy part. There was stuff that actually got there but
Speaker 1: wasn't offloaded, wasn't um consolidated, it wasn't vouchered. It was
Speaker 1: just they're rotting away on the tarmacs. So to me,
Speaker 1: it's just they shouldn't give it to you exactly now. Uh,
Speaker 1: But I mean people as being very supportive, man. You know,
Speaker 1: from all over all over the place, especially obviously you
Speaker 1: know the States, all the help done here. You know
Speaker 1: the military, you know the guys that they sent from
Speaker 1: the States, you know, different National gore units, Marines, you know, army,
Speaker 1: maybe everyone they're still down here and what they're doing
Speaker 1: many you know, it's like when I see him, man,
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like back in the days, you
Speaker 1: know that the stuff they're doing, they're going down counter town,
Speaker 1: you know, delivering water. M R. Res. I can't believe
Speaker 1: some of the stuff that happens. Man. We had a
Speaker 1: mayor down here, one of the city mayors from Ka's
Speaker 1: one of the towns down here in Puerto Rico, and
Speaker 1: you know, the military was giving out m R. Res
Speaker 1: and he there to question the nutritional value. You you mean,
Speaker 1: you mean you have doubts that this meal that where
Speaker 1: one contains over two thousand calories, could uh, you know,
Speaker 1: nourish your patrons. Is that where you're concerned? Right? And
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, you know, I only ate that
Speaker 1: for ten years. I mean, come on, man, do we
Speaker 1: know what this is? I don't know his name, don't
Speaker 1: remember his name, but you can look it up. And
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if that's there's There was a lot of mayors,
Speaker 1: like the mayor of San Juan. She was another superstar.
Speaker 1: Um you know when it came to, you know, making
Speaker 1: hats and T shirts, you know, in the middle of power, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Why are you making T shirts
Speaker 1: to push your political agenda? Shut up and get out
Speaker 1: to one of these small towns where kids are literally
Speaker 1: drinking dirty water off of a cliff side, you know,
Speaker 1: to try to you know, Andre, this is ridiculous. Who
Speaker 1: cares about your T shirt? You know? And and you
Speaker 1: know it's just like I said, it's definitely I give
Speaker 1: it a plus to the people, A plus of the
Speaker 1: people in the United States, A plus of the people, uh,
Speaker 1: the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, and a plus to anyone
Speaker 1: that's supported and any other nations supported us through that
Speaker 1: hard time. But a dag on F and f F
Speaker 1: f F to all the leaderships involved, leadership involved in
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico. Yeah, that's that's how it is. But yeah,
Speaker 1: like I said, man, you know that the people that's
Speaker 1: saying just phenomenal, you know, with with the with all
Speaker 1: the help, all the stuff that they gather, same done here.
Speaker 1: Uh you know power companies from Texas, from Florida. You
Speaker 1: know that they came down here. They brought their own trucks,
Speaker 1: you know, their own tools, their own everything. Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: seen them working here. You should. You should see some
Speaker 1: of the stuff I got in the mail from some
Speaker 1: of the brothers. Man. You know, like I got a
Speaker 1: sex phone. You know that what is that. And I'm
Speaker 1: like a satellite phone just like what I mean, like,
Speaker 1: how do they send you? How do they send you this?
Speaker 1: Because we love each other, man, let me tell you
Speaker 1: I'm right now because I'm like, you know the guy
Speaker 1: that sent me the sax phone, and he's like he
Speaker 1: was actually j D. Patents. He was like like like
Speaker 1: like we talked like two weeks after the hurricane, and
Speaker 1: he like he like chew me out. He was saying,
Speaker 1: a man like I haven't heard from you, like in
Speaker 1: two weeks, you know what's going on. And I'm like, well, dude,
Speaker 1: you know, we just got hit by the biggest hurrican
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican history, you know. And he's like, that's it.
Speaker 1: I'm sending you a sat phone. That's all right, dude,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. And And I didn't know Joel prior
Speaker 1: to the whole you know, soft wrap thing, and because
Speaker 1: he saw me, you know, I had a little presence
Speaker 1: online or whatever. I don't even know how you came
Speaker 1: across me, but he wrote to me on Instagram and
Speaker 1: we became, you know friends there. I mean, it's my brother.
Speaker 1: Once you tell me you're a hog, once you tell
Speaker 1: you tell me you're a marine. Scott Sniper to me
Speaker 1: is you know those who shared blood in the same
Speaker 1: mudel forever be my brothers, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And that's who he is. And from there it's a genuine,
Speaker 1: genuine love. And he picked me up and showed me
Speaker 1: the same thing. So that's why I believe. Man, you're
Speaker 1: you're talking about phone sat phone, you know, coming to
Speaker 1: a brother that's in a in a in a situation
Speaker 1: of distress. You know, you get that exact the first
Speaker 1: time you guys hung out. When that's how we are.
Speaker 1: It's a brotherhood man, same thing in all these tight
Speaker 1: communities like reconnaissance special Forces, uh, you know, Navy seals
Speaker 1: like you know, we we we suffer, we we endure
Speaker 1: misery together to the point where I can tell what
Speaker 1: piece of cloth you're cut from because it's the same
Speaker 1: as mine. You know, we walk the same path, we
Speaker 1: have the same morals, we we respect the same things.
Speaker 1: So right then and there, my guards are automatically going
Speaker 1: down when you tell me you're a Marine Scott Sniper.
Speaker 1: And like I said, it's just you feel that genuine genuineness,
Speaker 1: that that no agenda that y'all I truly want to
Speaker 1: help you out. And that's you know, for those kids
Speaker 1: that are looking to get into special operations. You know,
Speaker 1: not just the fact that later on you can call
Speaker 1: yourself a fucking badass, all right, I mean for some
Speaker 1: of you, that's what you guys are doing it for.
Speaker 1: The truth is, as you get old, It's true. Uh.
Speaker 1: The truth is, as you get older and you start
Speaker 1: going to things, the biggest, biggest takeaway from joining one
Speaker 1: of those communities is that that tight knit, uh tight
Speaker 1: knit like environment where you'll you'll have brothers for life,
Speaker 1: for life in such a small community that transcend all
Speaker 1: facets of this world, in different industries and stuff like
Speaker 1: that you could come to and you can draw from knowledge,
Speaker 1: you know. That being said Joel, explain to us what
Speaker 1: you've been doing since you got out with the whole
Speaker 1: carpentry thing, cause I think a funny story. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: when I got out that this is the thing. Man,
Speaker 1: I got out the first time, I said the first
Speaker 1: time because I got Reco to go back to Iraq.
Speaker 1: I got that the first time in two thousand and
Speaker 1: two and two tousand and nine, I got Reco spent
Speaker 1: a year in Iraq. Uh. What I've been doing, man,
Speaker 1: never since I got out the first time, and then
Speaker 1: you know, that's what I got done with Iraq and
Speaker 1: twos and then it's uh, you know, would work carpentry,
Speaker 1: you know, catching cabinet, furniture, jewelry store and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: That's that's what I've been doing. The funny story you
Speaker 1: want to hear back in two thousand ten, Man, it's
Speaker 1: been like maybe about six months since I got back
Speaker 1: to direct. Um. I went up to watching b C
Speaker 1: with a mutual friend, you know, Josey, and we're just there,
Speaker 1: you know, we want there spend a few days location
Speaker 1: and watch a ball game, you know, uh, watching baseball team. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we're there, man, I'm like, hey, man, let's go
Speaker 1: to uh let's go to Quantico and we can go
Speaker 1: to scoffs Niper School. Does the school I graduated from,
Speaker 1: And like right next to Scoff Niper School is the
Speaker 1: p w S, which is the Precision's Weapons Section. That's
Speaker 1: what they make called the mporty Serious Rifles, the muse
Speaker 1: of forty five, you know, d m R Rifles, all
Speaker 1: the stuff. So it's like, very cool, let's go. So
Speaker 1: we go down there and we spend the whole day
Speaker 1: with this guy, his name is Eric Read. At the time,
Speaker 1: he was the guy in charge of the pups. He
Speaker 1: was also the one that designed the you know in
Speaker 1: forty eight three five serious rifles Bright there. So when
Speaker 1: we're done at the pubs, we walk over to the schoolhouse.
Speaker 1: We're going to schoolhouse, and you know, I was like
Speaker 1: a little kid. Man. It's like it's been like a
Speaker 1: bunch of years. I'm back at my school, you know,
Speaker 1: and all the chairs in the desk they're still there.
Speaker 1: And so we go back to the instructor area at
Speaker 1: the same place where I met Chub Moheney, and why
Speaker 1: there's there's this young sergeant. Uh, one of the instructors
Speaker 1: didn't there, and Eric, you know, introduced me to all
Speaker 1: of them ladies Dover Tag, you know one he used
Speaker 1: to be an instructor also at the schoolhouse of Second Indivision. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know. He tells them all that all the stuff
Speaker 1: that I've done, all the you know, all the education
Speaker 1: and stuff. And this guy he's all excited, you know
Speaker 1: that that he's mading me and stuff. He's like, hey man,
Speaker 1: you know, so so like where you being all this stuff?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, you know, I just got back
Speaker 1: to my rack. You know. He's like, Oh, that's that's
Speaker 1: that's foking cool, you know. No, No, He's like, so
Speaker 1: what are you doing now, man? Like what are what agency?
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you working for? I'm like, I'm like, no, dude,
Speaker 1: I'm not working for an agency. I'm I'm a wood
Speaker 1: worker back in Puerto Rico. And he's he's looking at
Speaker 1: me man like like like kind of lost. And then
Speaker 1: he's like he thinks he's a joke and he's like, nah,
Speaker 1: for real, man, you know, like I know, like you
Speaker 1: guys can't talk about that, you know, because of the
Speaker 1: nature of the work. And I'm like, no, dude, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm furious. I'm a woodworker, man. I make like kitchen
Speaker 1: cabinets and stuff like that. He's like, what the fuck.
Speaker 1: He's like yeah, I mean he's like, you're like, you know,
Speaker 1: Marine corps, cuffs, sniper scuff, sniper instructure, You've been to
Speaker 1: all the schools, you've been to Iraq and you're building
Speaker 1: cabinets and and I'm like, dude, wait until you get
Speaker 1: out you know, know that what you think? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was like, when until you get out of fucker? You know,
Speaker 1: it's not that It's not what you think. Man, It's
Speaker 1: not like we're gonna get down. There's like companies out
Speaker 1: they're waiting for that. I mean, I don't know now
Speaker 1: or it's not like you know, it's not like they're
Speaker 1: gonna come. They're gonna come seek you out in the
Speaker 1: mountains of Colorado. Bob's Lisa Wagger, Hey, you want to
Speaker 1: work black outs for the government? Point Yeah. He was
Speaker 1: like highly highly disappointed. You know that. I wasn't like
Speaker 1: working for a naviancy or whatever. I think it's cool though,
Speaker 1: and it shows that you're a versatile person, multi talented,
Speaker 1: the same way that Jason is with tattoos. Uh No,
Speaker 1: I think that's great. You know. I feel like we
Speaker 1: gotta get one good combat story out of you before
Speaker 1: we wrap this up. So anything that stands out, I mean,
Speaker 1: you have to have some awesome stories. Let me ship
Speaker 1: tell you this one man, we're not racking two TuS
Speaker 1: and nine. I think it was uh, I think it
Speaker 1: was all just we used to have this building and
Speaker 1: it was pretty much like our company building. You know
Speaker 1: when I we used to go to the rooftop of
Speaker 1: this building smoke cigars all the time. And I told
Speaker 1: you too story business stars. So we used to go
Speaker 1: to the rooftop and smoke all the time. I was
Speaker 1: into lil. This is right next to Nassy Riga in Iraq,
Speaker 1: and from the base that we were in you could
Speaker 1: see maybe like a mile away a cigarette cigarette. This
Speaker 1: is Sumerian pyramid, you know what I'm talking about. So
Speaker 1: we're sitting in this rooftop one day smoking cigars, and
Speaker 1: when you're inside your cub or fob, you get the
Speaker 1: sense of like like you're secure, you know, and and
Speaker 1: especially in long deployments, you think when you're back in
Speaker 1: the fob or home you're safe. So we're in the
Speaker 1: rooster but this building talking this one day, and about
Speaker 1: three or fours in front of us there was this
Speaker 1: big gasm lot and people used to park comers and
Speaker 1: the rafts there. So this particular day we're smoking, we're
Speaker 1: looking at the you know, the sunset just happens to
Speaker 1: be over the homers that I that I just told
Speaker 1: you about three four yards las much. All of the sudden,
Speaker 1: one of the homers blows up, and this is this
Speaker 1: is the sense of security that you get when you're
Speaker 1: inside the pub. I'm looking I'm sitting there homer blows up.
Speaker 1: I look at the guy next to me, and the
Speaker 1: first thing that comes out of my math, out of
Speaker 1: my mouth, this is like, man, somebody sucked up. You know,
Speaker 1: like if like if someone like I don't like like
Speaker 1: like funked up, would explosive or did something wrong. And
Speaker 1: the homer blew up. You know that was my first
Speaker 1: You were inside the pop so so I mean, who's
Speaker 1: going to attack us or you know, so all the sudden, man,
Speaker 1: you can hear like this loud zip noises and they
Speaker 1: were rockets we got We got rocketed that day with
Speaker 1: five rockets, the one O seven's. They screamed very loudly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were pretty loud. So the thing is, we get up,
Speaker 1: start running, We go downstairs, you know that. We take
Speaker 1: the stairs to get up the roof of the building,
Speaker 1: and the people inside they come up laughing, you know,
Speaker 1: they bust out the doors laughing like hey, who failed,
Speaker 1: and we're like nobody's talking. Hell we're getting attacked, you know,
Speaker 1: and they'll start yelling again and run back inside the building.
Speaker 1: You know, that's the complacency is ridiculous. You really start
Speaker 1: getting and you know that's that's where that's saying comes
Speaker 1: the complacency kills because you get that one sense of security. Man. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you I got something similar like that
Speaker 1: in this camp Alisade, which is I don't know if
Speaker 1: you Alasade is in al Khim is like the biggest basis. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And this is a forty by forty click base. It's huge,
Speaker 1: it's massive, and there's movie theaters in there. There's a
Speaker 1: Carl's Jr. Truck from when I remember. Probably there's probably
Speaker 1: a mall there in an embassy building or something now
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's huge. It was massive. Man,
Speaker 1: let me tell you. P X everything so forty by
Speaker 1: forty click base. You know, you don't really think and
Speaker 1: much is gonna happen to you? Right, somehow a rocket
Speaker 1: comes into the base and it didn't really have a target.
Speaker 1: These guys really didn't. They didn't have the four controllers
Speaker 1: and it was just like, I'm sending something that way,
Speaker 1: hopefully we'll hit something. And this kid coming out the
Speaker 1: p X definitely a pogue um. You know, no disrespect
Speaker 1: to him because the kid eventually lost his life, but
Speaker 1: you know he's walking out of the p X and
Speaker 1: his guy's coping a and his magazine, and you know
Speaker 1: he's thinking to himself and nothing gonna happen to me here.
Speaker 1: I got the most cush spot here. And next, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know where a rocket comes down and lands
Speaker 1: right on and in front of the p X, Like,
Speaker 1: what the hell are the possibilities for that? And that's
Speaker 1: what we're talking about, that complacency. When you're in there,
Speaker 1: you're still in the combat zone. Gentlemen, you still have
Speaker 1: to keep your wits about your situational awareness about it happens.
Speaker 1: It happens to the best of us. What's your other one, Joe,
Speaker 1: I love it. I'm going on a good man. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So you get, you get, you get like that, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's it's easy to do. That's a big place
Speaker 1: for places. By fourth place, Uh can't bat or what
Speaker 1: it was cub bat or it was like about three
Speaker 1: by five, so it was it was pretty small. All
Speaker 1: we had was the true section, you know, the housing unit,
Speaker 1: little p X and then an airstrip and that was it,
Speaker 1: you know where we were land and and and take
Speaker 1: out from. So what that's about it? Right? What's the
Speaker 1: second story? He said? You had another one for us?
Speaker 1: So in Iraq. Man I was with an army unit. Okay,
Speaker 1: so this guy's man and this this this building what
Speaker 1: we used to smoke. Uh. It had like a ladder,
Speaker 1: just the ladder we will go open down like a
Speaker 1: fireman's kind of ladder deal. And this building was like
Speaker 1: eighteen feet high. One day, the botanic commanders comes out
Speaker 1: and he's like, I knew like I would worker back home.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, sir. He's like, why why don't you
Speaker 1: build like a nice you know, set of stairs so
Speaker 1: you guys can go up and down the building without actually,
Speaker 1: you know, by going up and down this skinny ladder
Speaker 1: you know. I was like, yeah, we'll do that, you know.
Speaker 1: So it took me like about two weeks. Man build
Speaker 1: this this like a staircase actually to go up to
Speaker 1: the roof building. And at the very tub I put
Speaker 1: a sign and it was the Mohini's deck like had
Speaker 1: so the Mohins back these guys, you know, their army guys,
Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, so who's Mohini that you could
Speaker 1: you know chuck Mahinus back over there. And now I
Speaker 1: was like, well he was a marine corst sniper and
Speaker 1: the like don't like what the funk? Man? You know,
Speaker 1: this is like an army unit. I was like, and
Speaker 1: that that that that unit right there was called the
Speaker 1: Putty First ib CT and they were out of Oregon.
Speaker 1: So I was like, now, man, listen and this this
Speaker 1: is just pure coincidence. Also I listen, man, you know,
Speaker 1: I see the man's bag, you know, yeah, Marine Corp sniper.
Speaker 1: But then it's like Chuck Moheney, he's from Oregon, and
Speaker 1: they were like, oh, okay, we got it. You know.
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I think the most the most
Speaker 1: interesting part that a lot of people are probably questioning, now,
Speaker 1: how did a Marine Corps scout sniper get reactivated and
Speaker 1: sent to an army unit? You know, I didn't know that,
Speaker 1: but I'll tell you how it happened. Man. In two
Speaker 1: thousand and nine, D was doing a report for the
Speaker 1: Army and I had the same question when I got
Speaker 1: the letter. I got a letter man, and the mail saying,
Speaker 1: you know, but Presidential number Order uh sons or whatever,
Speaker 1: You're being activated back to activity and a date to
Speaker 1: report to a base. So I called the number man,
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, listen, you know, I've been
Speaker 1: out for like seven years and I served you know,
Speaker 1: nine years, so I don't have any IR time, and
Speaker 1: you're recalling me again, you know, calling me back. And
Speaker 1: they were like, well this it doesn't matter of your
Speaker 1: IR time. This is a recall. You know, the Army
Speaker 1: is doing a recall now and two thousand and nine.
Speaker 1: The minds they want in two thousand and seven. Even
Speaker 1: the Navy they want like in two thousand four or something.
Speaker 1: So the thing is they go, they based a recall
Speaker 1: on the needs. So they needed you know, a sniper
Speaker 1: and the armies that before. So they called me back.
Speaker 1: When they they re called me back, it was like
Speaker 1: opposed to thirty of us that reported to for Benning.
Speaker 1: You know, when you had guys, it was like two
Speaker 1: guys from the navy. Uh, there was like two more
Speaker 1: instant me and be saw the guy and then a
Speaker 1: bunch of arming guys. And it ranges from everything company engineers,
Speaker 1: rangers such as you know, all the stuff. So that's
Speaker 1: how I got called back, sweet Brow. They needed it
Speaker 1: before to go to Kalio. And it was funny too, man,
Speaker 1: another funny story. When I got to you know, I
Speaker 1: got spent. I spent you know a few weeks at
Speaker 1: Benning a few weeks at tim Shelby, Mississippi, and then
Speaker 1: you know, as you know, you've got a cool wait
Speaker 1: when you were there for about fifteen days or whatever,
Speaker 1: and then you go to either Iraq Organistan. When I
Speaker 1: got to Iraq, it was just beaming by myself. I
Speaker 1: got to a cove adder, I got out of the plane,
Speaker 1: I go into you know what they called the terminal,
Speaker 1: and I'm caring like this, you know, four duffel bags
Speaker 1: and stuff, and I'm just waiting there for someone to
Speaker 1: pick me up. Uh. About an hour later, man at
Speaker 1: first sargean shows up and he's like, hey, are you
Speaker 1: the sniper on my yes or shoring. He's like, okay,
Speaker 1: you're coming with me. As we're walking out, and know,
Speaker 1: their first sargeant shows up and he's like, hey, are
Speaker 1: you the sniper and I'm like yes, We're sorry. It's
Speaker 1: like no, you're coming with me, and I'm like okay. So,
Speaker 1: you know, I wish one instant. So they start arguing,
Speaker 1: like who's gonna take me with them too, you know,
Speaker 1: to their company or whatever. Well, they're arguing, and this
Speaker 1: true story, by the way, man, Well they're arguing, a
Speaker 1: sergeant major shows up. Sergeant major storm. He looked like
Speaker 1: no ship man. He looked like that uh Sergeant Barnes
Speaker 1: from Platoon, that Tom Burring character. He even had the
Speaker 1: scar on his face. He shows up. Badass guy, man,
Speaker 1: real cool guy. He shows up and he's like, are
Speaker 1: you the sniper And I'm like yes. I mean, He's
Speaker 1: just like, no, you're coming with me. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, let's go. It's like, who's gonna come and
Speaker 1: explain my whole time? You're gonna come back with the
Speaker 1: b and I was that. It's like who's gonna come
Speaker 1: back with the prize to the unit? Like whatever. The
Speaker 1: two first start and just tow they just do there
Speaker 1: looking at him like okay, you know, without saying anything.
Speaker 1: You know, he grabbed like two my backs, I grabbed
Speaker 1: the other one thing we drove off. So that's one
Speaker 1: of those one team one five things. Though, as we say,
Speaker 1: you know, because you're hanging out with the army guys
Speaker 1: and you know, it all cut from the same cloth
Speaker 1: as you said earlier. Yeah, it was. It was a
Speaker 1: good experience, man, it was. It was funny at times,
Speaker 1: you know, and not so funny at others. Another story, man,
Speaker 1: At this one time, we're at the at the talk,
Speaker 1: and that talk is the Tactical Operating Center co Operations Center.
Speaker 1: I'm in there, man, and the talk is like big,
Speaker 1: like really really big. They're big buildings usually. So I'm
Speaker 1: standing there, like by the front door, and I don't
Speaker 1: about to leave. I turned around, you know, throughout the building,
Speaker 1: and I see sorry major Stot coming and I'm like,
Speaker 1: ship man, what do they say in the army when
Speaker 1: the sorgan major you know, walks in, you know, And
Speaker 1: I'm like thinking, thinking, and I'm like, well, I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just I'm just gonna say what we
Speaker 1: say in the Marine Corps, you know. So he walks in,
Speaker 1: nobody else is looking, and I'm like begging for someone
Speaker 1: else to be looking this way so they can say
Speaker 1: whatever it is that they say, you know. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: you're standing there and even making noises with the door
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, just to see if someone looks
Speaker 1: this way and see the Sorgean major coming so they
Speaker 1: can yell whatever it is. So anyway, it didn't happen,
Speaker 1: you know. So I'm looking. I'm like, okay, let's go,
Speaker 1: let's do it, you know. So he's working stop at
Speaker 1: pension man, I'm like at pension on deck. You know,
Speaker 1: everybody just turned around and looked at me, like what
Speaker 1: the fog? You know? Sergeant Major store Man, he keeps walking,
Speaker 1: puts his own around my neck and he's like America.
Speaker 1: He's like, you're the marine guy, right. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm the god you picked up at the airport, right.
Speaker 1: And he's like, hey, you know, next time, you know,
Speaker 1: just say at ease. And I'm like, all right, you know, amazing.
Speaker 1: Our traditions are crazy. It's like the traditions between or
Speaker 1: or you know, our practices are like so different from
Speaker 1: the army, Like, you know, they can wear covers indoors
Speaker 1: and we can't. You know, they salute indoors or maybe
Speaker 1: they can't wear covers, but they salute indoors and we don't.
Speaker 1: You know, they can wear their uniform out of town,
Speaker 1: their b d U s. We can't. You know. It's
Speaker 1: just it's crazy. And then we announced you know, all
Speaker 1: feel great great officers and enter a room. We announced
Speaker 1: you know, the certain majors and stuff like that, like
Speaker 1: you know, we give the people their respect and the
Speaker 1: attention that they command when they walk in the room.
Speaker 1: Because that's like, hey, all eyes on him, pay attention.
Speaker 1: You know, he's about to you know, whatever he requires,
Speaker 1: or he could just say, at ease, calm down and
Speaker 1: go about your business. So it's a respecting we do,
Speaker 1: you know, and I think that goes in part a
Speaker 1: lot with how we just conduct ourselves and on missions.
Speaker 1: You know, we just we have that. You know, everyone
Speaker 1: is going to get their respect, you know, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna you know, we're gonna go hard for everything we do. Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: it's a good experience, man, it was. It was really
Speaker 1: really cool. Uh. We even got to celebrate the Marine
Speaker 1: Corps birthday over there and what they did, Man, I
Speaker 1: think it was pretty cool from the Army, you know,
Speaker 1: by doing this. But November ten, early in the morning,
Speaker 1: if we have any former Marines you know that are
Speaker 1: now soldiers in the army, they want all of you,
Speaker 1: you know, and you know, in the in this place,
Speaker 1: in the in the fob because you guys are going
Speaker 1: to celebrate on the Marine Corps birthday and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So it was like announced every word that only marines
Speaker 1: and former Marines and even you know, the contractors that
Speaker 1: were former Marines were allowed in this corner of the
Speaker 1: you know, campatre to go to the ceremony, and obviously
Speaker 1: they had the cape, they had the uh you know,
Speaker 1: even the message from the common down, you know, and
Speaker 1: so everybody knew and the union. Man, you know that
Speaker 1: I was former marine. So some of the guys that
Speaker 1: I came pretty close with, man, they were like, and
Speaker 1: many think we can go with you to the to
Speaker 1: the Marine Corp thing. And I was like many, you know,
Speaker 1: it's only four you know marines, you know, four memrines
Speaker 1: stuff like that. I was like, I told you what
Speaker 1: then was two guys, I was, I told you what then,
Speaker 1: just keep your mouth shut and company, you know. So
Speaker 1: so I took him over with me and then they
Speaker 1: saw the whole you know, tradition and what I called
Speaker 1: the marine ness of the moment, you know, and they,
Speaker 1: you know, they ate the cake. You know, everybody hugs everybody,
Speaker 1: you know, how this man. And at the end when
Speaker 1: we left, they were like, man, that was that was
Speaker 1: sucking cold? You know it was it was it was awesome,
Speaker 1: you know. They had like I said, man, it was
Speaker 1: just this moment. You know, you had the cake they
Speaker 1: had on a a little screen, you know, they put
Speaker 1: in the tape or bigly or whatever with the message
Speaker 1: you know from the common damn stuff like that. And
Speaker 1: he actually addressed the message to you know, obviously Marines,
Speaker 1: but also you know former Marines in other branches. You know.
Speaker 1: It was cool, man, it was really really cool. And
Speaker 1: one of these guys was Captain Barner. You know, we
Speaker 1: be thinking close friends in Iraq and he was he
Speaker 1: was like impressed. Man, he was my man. That was
Speaker 1: that was called as farm. There wasn't serious ship. That's awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's great. Um, So before we get out of here, Um,
Speaker 1: since you guys met on Instagram, what's if you want
Speaker 1: to throw out your Instagram, plug your business anything you
Speaker 1: want to get out there? Man, Yeah, Instagram is thunderstrucks,
Speaker 1: just like the A C. D. E C song Thunderstruck
Speaker 1: right now on our Instagram. Yeah, thunderstruck one. That's that's
Speaker 1: my Instagram right there and my business down here. Man.
Speaker 1: It's not called timber as you know for wood, timber
Speaker 1: and blues and it's in Ouadi. Yeah, that's that's the
Speaker 1: test on where timber and blues is sad then pretty
Speaker 1: much man, brief description and what DNB is, it's uh,
Speaker 1: we call it a cafe bar. Uh. We we're gonna
Speaker 1: have manage uh coffee. Obviously it's not gonna be from
Speaker 1: from an expressing machine. It's gonna be with the poor
Speaker 1: over method. Uh. For those of you that don't know
Speaker 1: what that is, is basically man an hour glass, like
Speaker 1: a big hour glass where you put a filter on top,
Speaker 1: You put you obviously, the grounded coffee in the filter,
Speaker 1: and then you with a goose neck caraph you pour
Speaker 1: the water on the coffee. So that's poor over coffee.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna have coffee. Is uh supposed to be
Speaker 1: some damn good Coffee's that? This must be some damn
Speaker 1: good coffee. It sounds like it's, in my opinion, is
Speaker 1: the best. You know what. Expressing machines are like a
Speaker 1: new invention, you know, technically, and the thing is, man
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know how to work with
Speaker 1: express machines and they burn your coffee. That's why it
Speaker 1: tastes better most of the time. You know, it's not
Speaker 1: the coffee itself, but it's it's it's you know, it's
Speaker 1: the machine pressure on all the water to the coffee
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But you know, whoever likes that
Speaker 1: that's that's that's cool. This is just something different. So
Speaker 1: full over coffee. Uh uh, we're gonna have like some food,
Speaker 1: you know, pastries and stuff like that. Were one of
Speaker 1: the brunches and Sundays and cigars you know, you know,
Speaker 1: obviously it's cigars from you know, um, you know, from Honduras,
Speaker 1: nick Aragua, Dominican Republic, some from Puerto Rico. So believe
Speaker 1: it or not, there's still um cigars being produced here
Speaker 1: and they're pretty good obviously, you know, a bunch of
Speaker 1: alcohol profit tails, you know, beer, local beer, so all
Speaker 1: that stuff right, pretty much the team and Jason saw it.
Speaker 1: But uh what Timber and Blues looks like. It's speak
Speaker 1: and if you guys are familiar with the term, you
Speaker 1: know pek e C blink pig. So that's that's pretty
Speaker 1: much what it is. So much blank side and was
Speaker 1: that what's the website if people want to check it out, Well,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Timber and Blues dot com. You better
Speaker 1: get that down before somebody. Okay, good, but I say
Speaker 1: you better get that knock. That's what they're doing is
Speaker 1: they're buying websites so they can sell it to you. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: we already bought it. Okay, cool, cool, Okay, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be It's gonna be up completely next week. But if
Speaker 1: timber blues dot com I can't right there? Could you
Speaker 1: just spell that out for so people could bookmark it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Timber D I M B E R and you know
Speaker 1: a N D and then blues l U E S cool.
Speaker 1: So yeah, book but you know, keep an eye out
Speaker 1: for it and it will be up next week. Um, dude,
Speaker 1: you definitely brought it for episode three hundred. We appreciate it.
Speaker 1: You know, took a little risk bringing a new guy on,
Speaker 1: but we'll definitely have you back. Man. Some great stories.
Speaker 1: It's really knowledgeable. Yeah, and and also that on the
Speaker 1: ground experience in Puerto Rico, some some sniper history and
Speaker 1: the Marine Corps. I think we covered a lot man,
Speaker 1: And now, thank you man, thank you for the opportunity.
Speaker 1: It was an honor. And uh, you know, like by
Speaker 1: listening to you sometimes, you know, seeing the podcast and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and it's it's it's just great. It was.
Speaker 1: It was an honor man, any time, and it's an
Speaker 1: honor for us to hear the people who are listening
Speaker 1: from everywhere. Man, and whenever, whenever you get a chance,
Speaker 1: you know, Jason's coming, but you in you know, when
Speaker 1: where you get a chance, come down here. And we
Speaker 1: got a Tamburn Blues nice all right. I may have
Speaker 1: to take you up on that, manh yeah, but if
Speaker 1: it's awesome to hear the people listening in Puerto Rico
Speaker 1: and Australia and Germany, you know, stationed overseas fighting for
Speaker 1: the country, like it's it's all over the place. So
Speaker 1: it's it's it's just great man. As a guy who's
Speaker 1: done like terrestrial radio in the past, where you know,
Speaker 1: you're speaking to people on Long Island, which is where
Speaker 1: I was, like, it's a whole different ballgame when we're
Speaker 1: talking to people worldwide, like you know, you feel like
Speaker 1: it's a big responsibility and uh, you know, I want
Speaker 1: to put out great shows every week for these people,
Speaker 1: and Jason feels the same. Hell yeah, hey, Joel, no
Speaker 1: it is. I just want to say thank you, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for coming on. Delmeo translated my guy.
Speaker 1: I appreciate everything you did and thanks for coming on.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure I told you on Instagram. We'll probably
Speaker 1: do a text message. But if not, happy belated Birthday
Speaker 1: del Dogs AMPLI five Man and Happy Veterans Day as
Speaker 1: well and Happy Veterans Day. Killer. Hey, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: I'll hit you up later. Brother. All right, thank you. Thanks.
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Speaker 1: So as I was doing that read for Casper, Jason
Speaker 1: went downstairs and we have a very special guests. On
Speaker 1: episode three hundred, the softwarep Radio audience might not know
Speaker 1: you yet, but you know, anybody who's seen inside the
Speaker 1: team room cut from the same cloth, you know, which
Speaker 1: is on Softwrep TV. They might be familiar with Navy
Speaker 1: Seal Steve Rolston, who is in the New York area.
Speaker 1: You know you live here and swung by, which is
Speaker 1: a real honor for episode three, man, well, thank you.
Speaker 1: I appreciate what we did. Talk it an enormous amount
Speaker 1: of for ship that day. It was a lot of
Speaker 1: poop poop with Jim. Yeah, you get you get Jim
Speaker 1: in the room, you get us in the room. Some
Speaker 1: alcohol you didn't drink, so you're naturally fucking nuts. Maybe
Speaker 1: a little too much sugar, a little too much caffeine.
Speaker 1: That was That was definitely that was an awesome show.
Speaker 1: You kind of, you know, kind of set the tone
Speaker 1: for what I would say, my demeanor was on the
Speaker 1: air there on after the fact, and I kind of
Speaker 1: had to tone it down because I don't know what
Speaker 1: kind of show am I on? We are we talking
Speaker 1: about prostitutes and stuff? All right? Cool, y'all, y'all dig
Speaker 1: that right? We could keep going and then it's been like,
Speaker 1: dogdo you gotta cool it with the curse and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know where I'm at. I'm confused right now.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but yeah, that was an awesome episode. Man,
Speaker 1: what with him? It's it's only a matter of time
Speaker 1: before somebody's sucking with, somebody's getting sucking stabbed, or he's
Speaker 1: taking his fucking tongue, honest, and his ship is like
Speaker 1: four ft long and you can look at his eyebrowsers,
Speaker 1: so he does best. Steve, tell us what you've been
Speaker 1: doing in the city, man, I mean, you gotta fucking
Speaker 1: pampass bad because you bust your ass. You you work
Speaker 1: pretty hard. Um, I think it's interesting what you do. Um.
Speaker 1: Can you enlighten people as to what you do for
Speaker 1: people that require your services? And you can get right
Speaker 1: on there. I'm gonna put the giant Pelic's close as
Speaker 1: close as possible the fuzzy one. Disregard the penis in
Speaker 1: your eye socket. I'm a safety and security can sell
Speaker 1: And what that translates to in English is I work
Speaker 1: for attorneys and I do a bunch of private surveillance projects,
Speaker 1: whether that's for fraud or whether that's for real crime,
Speaker 1: and I put individuals into criminals patterns of life, and
Speaker 1: we get evidence of them doing stuff they shouldn't be doing.
Speaker 1: That's all right. So it's I've been lucky. I've been
Speaker 1: put about a thousand hours in the last two years,
Speaker 1: and it's it's continuing to grow. I've got some guys
Speaker 1: doing projects in Boston, some guys doing projects in North
Speaker 1: and South Carolina. I work with retired homicide detectives here
Speaker 1: in the city and it's been lots of fun. You know,
Speaker 1: any any time we can help to take out the trash,
Speaker 1: whether that's globally or just locally, you know, we want
Speaker 1: to do it because people don't understand that crime it
Speaker 1: affects all of us, whatever kind of crime it is.
Speaker 1: It raises the prices for everything. It people don't feel
Speaker 1: safe leaving our homes we have fucking wackadoodles or the
Speaker 1: people over on bike paths. I mean, if anything we
Speaker 1: can do to help, we're gonna do it. So what
Speaker 1: about your your background in the seals For people unfamiliar
Speaker 1: with you know what you've done. What was I went
Speaker 1: into the Navy ten days out of high school and
Speaker 1: then I did your normal Navy nonsense for approximately nine months,
Speaker 1: and then I went to BUDS. I went to BUDS
Speaker 1: and nineteen graduated n was in my first seal team
Speaker 1: still Delivery Vehicle Team one. Did two platoons there as
Speaker 1: a primary pilot for the STV. Spent a lot of
Speaker 1: hours flying that thing, maybe I don't know, maybe a
Speaker 1: thousand hours, and then lots of dried egg, shelter stuff,
Speaker 1: which is pretty amazing. I was doing a bunch of
Speaker 1: James Bond ship when I was twenty and didn't even
Speaker 1: realize how cool it was. And basically, you fly the
Speaker 1: STV around the giant nuclear submarine and follow your It's
Speaker 1: it's a lot like flying an airplane underwater using only
Speaker 1: your instruments, but the consequences aren't so severe because you
Speaker 1: can use your instruments to power back to the surface
Speaker 1: and with a with an airplane, if you're your ship
Speaker 1: goes down, you're gonna going down. Yeah, You're going flaming
Speaker 1: into the earth. So I did that for four and
Speaker 1: a half years, and then I was lucky you went
Speaker 1: to Seal Team three. I was there for about four
Speaker 1: and a half years. Also, I did Brandon and Right.
Speaker 1: I didn't know Davis. I didn't know Brandon in the teams.
Speaker 1: I meant him after when we were working on He
Speaker 1: was working on a training project and so was I.
Speaker 1: We we met through local contacts. When I also when
Speaker 1: I got other teams, I had a commercial real estate company,
Speaker 1: so I knew brand very successful commercial real estate at
Speaker 1: a young age. With that, with all that being said,
Speaker 1: you know why divorce is so expensive because it's fucking more.
Speaker 1: Think this guy is crazy. Let me tell you this.
Speaker 1: And I don't even know if he is still, but
Speaker 1: was grossing. His business was grossing something like what you're
Speaker 1: saying at one point was fourteen million. I know more
Speaker 1: than that. We're not. When I, when I so graciously
Speaker 1: signed it over to my ex, we had a conservative,
Speaker 1: a conservative pretax estimate of prodily two and fifty million.
Speaker 1: That's not not what not our net worth is assets
Speaker 1: that we handled for other people are. Net worth was
Speaker 1: obviously significantly less then, but we did still own pieces
Speaker 1: each one of the buildings. And that was through no
Speaker 1: skill or it was basically all luck. I just happened
Speaker 1: to be in the right place at the right time
Speaker 1: a bunch of days in a row. It took your
Speaker 1: personality to it took your work ethic that you learned
Speaker 1: in the military. Probably even before that. The fact is,
Speaker 1: you know, it took a lot of that work ethic,
Speaker 1: and it also took you keeping your word to people
Speaker 1: to get to the point where they can depend on you.
Speaker 1: They can say, this fucking guy is going to get
Speaker 1: the job done, and that's that what that's what propelled
Speaker 1: your business. Am I correct? Yeah, you're absolutely correct. We
Speaker 1: had everything from the highest rent in San Diego, in Lajoya, California,
Speaker 1: and then some of the lowest rents down and Sandue
Speaker 1: Cedro time Mesa area. And the reason I'm bringing that
Speaker 1: up is I had several negotiations with individuals that are
Speaker 1: paying maybe eight cents to square foot and then with
Speaker 1: some of the individuals in lahoy are paying fifteen dollars
Speaker 1: a square foot. So you had to be able to
Speaker 1: be a chameleon and work with each one of those
Speaker 1: groups of people. Not that one is better than or
Speaker 1: less than or any of that nonsense, but everybody needs something,
Speaker 1: and if you can't go out there and help them,
Speaker 1: if you're out there only looking for what you can get,
Speaker 1: you're never going to be successful. But if you can
Speaker 1: help somebody get what they're looking for, then you're always
Speaker 1: going to be successful. Because you're looking at you're not
Speaker 1: looking at it as an individual basis, like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: going to treat this person different because it's his income
Speaker 1: in you're looking at as this is my product, this
Speaker 1: is what I do. It doesn't matter who the client is.
Speaker 1: I'm going to give him. This is what we agree to.
Speaker 1: That's it. We can either shake hands and get it
Speaker 1: done or we can't. That's okay. I'm not personally invested
Speaker 1: in either one. Hopefully I can help pe, but if
Speaker 1: I can't, that's all right. Let me point you in
Speaker 1: a direction where you can find somebody who can. So
Speaker 1: you know, if y I guys financially, you know, especially
Speaker 1: out here in New York, you can make like sucking
Speaker 1: six figures and still be broke as hell. Um, I
Speaker 1: wasn't in a decent place, and Steve freaking didn't know
Speaker 1: me from a hole in the wall, and he put
Speaker 1: me to work. And the great thing about him is
Speaker 1: he is he actively He's actively looking for special operation
Speaker 1: veterans that are in the New York area of Boston
Speaker 1: area that you know, have the skill set to do
Speaker 1: the things he requires them to do to keep them
Speaker 1: gainfully employed and give him that purpose and after the fact,
Speaker 1: like I said, he's pulled me out of a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of stuff, you know, financial, and I
Speaker 1: have to give him. This is one of the most
Speaker 1: straight shooting, straight talking motherfucker's I've ever encountered. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you because because I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you about the motherfucker this, This motherfucker right here,
Speaker 1: he can chew my ass out and in the next
Speaker 1: second take me to go iramen noodles. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. There's no hard feelings, you know, and I
Speaker 1: love that because that's just what we're used to, you know,
Speaker 1: and you you don't. You don't see that out in
Speaker 1: the civilian sector. You see everyone, for the lack of
Speaker 1: better term, pussyfooting around certain subjects when it's really a
Speaker 1: waste of time, and you know, just get to the point.
Speaker 1: And this is him, This is who he is. You know.
Speaker 1: It's such a refreshing person to be around in New York.
Speaker 1: Believe it or not. Well, there, it's funny that you
Speaker 1: bring that situation. We had an agreement. I expect him
Speaker 1: to do certain things. There was a couple of things
Speaker 1: I didn't agree with, so I explained it to him
Speaker 1: what the deal was, and that's it, and it's it's
Speaker 1: always been my philosophy. We can either shake hands and
Speaker 1: get it done, or we can't. That's fine. I'm not
Speaker 1: personally invested in it either way. If we can do it, great,
Speaker 1: If we can't, that's great too. You know, there's life.
Speaker 1: Life's too fucking short, exactly. I think that's the only
Speaker 1: way it needs to be. If your your your ultimate
Speaker 1: goal is the mission or getting the job done. Anything
Speaker 1: else is just a waste of time. Just what needs
Speaker 1: to be done. Here you go, got it cool? All right,
Speaker 1: aside from the fact kind of sucking reminew it as
Speaker 1: you want. Now, businesses, let's do what we're here to do.
Speaker 1: A lot of people get convinced they need to fill
Speaker 1: up that empty time with words. You know, it's it's
Speaker 1: okay to be quiet. This is what I need to say.
Speaker 1: We're going to cover this. Then we're done. Well, Steve,
Speaker 1: from what I know, you know and i've seen you
Speaker 1: coming the studio, but you know we've gotten for like
Speaker 1: the whole thing. But but you're a pretty low key
Speaker 1: guy at the same time, like running this super successful business,
Speaker 1: which I know alone from seeing the skyline of your
Speaker 1: apartment was badass views I've ever seen, well, I've I've
Speaker 1: been incredibly lucky. And it's never luck though, is it.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard work, it's's of course, you gotta
Speaker 1: put the time in, but the reality is you gotta
Speaker 1: get there, man, and if you're not willing to do
Speaker 1: what it takes, it's a lot easier to be lucky
Speaker 1: if you're prepared. So I stay lucky because I don't
Speaker 1: want to sound like some fucking egomaniac, because you know
Speaker 1: there's a there's enough of those, but from your community
Speaker 1: or every every community, everybody, because I feel like Steve
Speaker 1: is pretty humble for you know, people always see the
Speaker 1: Seal community like they all have giant egos. I don't
Speaker 1: see you that way. Well, man, I've I've been nowhere
Speaker 1: and I've done nothing, so is uh. The reality is everybody,
Speaker 1: everybody did their fair share, and that's you know, that's
Speaker 1: that's as far as that deal goes. But the I'm
Speaker 1: willing to put the time in, I'm willing to be uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, I'm willing to
Speaker 1: have uncomfortable conversations with some fucking hyper aggressive alpha males,
Speaker 1: and I've participated in I've been lucky enough to participate
Speaker 1: in some contracts and and work with some people and
Speaker 1: some skills that aren't aren't necessarily mainstream, but I have
Speaker 1: had the unique opportunity to have a bunch of uncomfortable
Speaker 1: conversations with some pretty high caliber individuals. And I think
Speaker 1: that's what it comes down to, being willing to be
Speaker 1: uncomfortable and you know what, you don't have to fucking
Speaker 1: like me, but you're gonna do what I say. You're
Speaker 1: gonna get the funk out of here. It's really that easy.
Speaker 1: I think that's a message that, probably more so now
Speaker 1: than ever, needs to be heard because I just don't
Speaker 1: see that in the younger generations. Everyone is just so
Speaker 1: hyper sensitive. Well, we quit fucking beating our kids, But
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not talking about physical beings, you know,
Speaker 1: but you know, holding them accountable to their actions. Right,
Speaker 1: you're gonna say, funk when you're seven, You're gonna get
Speaker 1: your mouth washed out with self. You're gonna pull your sister,
Speaker 1: say you're gonna get your ask beat. I mean not
Speaker 1: a beating beating, but you know, a smack with a
Speaker 1: wooden spoon or whatever it is, and when when that
Speaker 1: went away, I think it did a solid disservice because
Speaker 1: there's no accountability, there's no response instability. It's it's everybody
Speaker 1: else's fault for everything, and everybody's convinced they're fucking fragile,
Speaker 1: fucking porcelain snowflake. That's nonsense. You know. That's when I'm
Speaker 1: when I'm working with guys whatever capacity. I asked him,
Speaker 1: have you ever been in a fucking fist fight? Have
Speaker 1: ever been punched in the face? And they look at
Speaker 1: me like a dog looking at the ceiling fan, you know,
Speaker 1: their heads fucking sideways, And I'm like, because if you
Speaker 1: haven't been in a fight, you don't know what you
Speaker 1: can withstand. You know, if you get punched in the face. Granted, art,
Speaker 1: you know you're you're you're ugly for a couple of
Speaker 1: days whatever, but you realize, you know, this sucks right now,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna get through this. And it's the same
Speaker 1: thing we've We've been fortunate, we've been able to have
Speaker 1: different but similar special operations experience, but we realize at
Speaker 1: the at the end of the day, it's all being
Speaker 1: resilient enough to do whatever it takes. And just fucking
Speaker 1: showing up, showing up on time with all your ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a big thing. Yeah, and everything and everything in life. Absolutely. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's why I think, you know a lot of civilians
Speaker 1: read books by Navy seals and former military because you
Speaker 1: could take those lessons into your everyday life. Whether you're
Speaker 1: an accountant or real estate agent, doesn't matter what you're doing.
Speaker 1: Um yeah, absolutely. Um. So should we dig into this
Speaker 1: article about Green Beret Logan Melbourne. I mean, it makes
Speaker 1: sense to have you here because he's allegedly been murdered
Speaker 1: by two Navy seals, and you know, I'd love to
Speaker 1: hear your take on it. Um. We've been talking about
Speaker 1: a Jason and I the past few shows, but this
Speaker 1: article from the Daily Beast definitely like dug a little
Speaker 1: deeper on the issue. Um, So I'll read a little
Speaker 1: bit from it. H the articles green Beret discovered, Seals
Speaker 1: alictit cash than he was killed, Logan Melger hadn't had
Speaker 1: a drink on June four. The Green Beret sergeant's dry
Speaker 1: day became a key to unraveling the narratives spun by
Speaker 1: the elite Navy commandos who military investigators now suspect killed them.
Speaker 1: Officials familiar with the case said, Melger, a staff sergeant
Speaker 1: in the Army's third Special Forces Group, was specifically selected
Speaker 1: for an intelligence operation in the West African nation of Molly.
Speaker 1: He was well respected by the American embassy staff and
Speaker 1: the partner forces there, a former US Africa Command officials said,
Speaker 1: But shortly before he died, Melger told his wife that
Speaker 1: he had a bad feeling about two of his partners
Speaker 1: in that effort, both of whom were members of Seal
Speaker 1: Team six. Not wanting to say much more, Melger informed
Speaker 1: his wife, Michelle, that he tell her the full story
Speaker 1: when he got back home. According to an official speaking
Speaker 1: on the condition of anonymity, because the investigation is still
Speaker 1: ongoing now, those two Navy seals are under investigation for
Speaker 1: killing Melger, an investigation first reported by The New York Times,
Speaker 1: sending shock waves throughout the special operations community. Military experts
Speaker 1: were hard pressed to think of another case where elite
Speaker 1: U S troops turned on one another. This account is
Speaker 1: based on five members of the special operations community who
Speaker 1: were not cleared to speak public. Representatives of both US
Speaker 1: Africa Command AFRICAM and the U S Special Operations Command,
Speaker 1: so CALM declined for this story, as the Naval Criminal
Speaker 1: Investigative Services and c i S has an active investigation
Speaker 1: into Melger's doubt death. N c i S would not
Speaker 1: comment beyond confirming the investigation is underway, and then it
Speaker 1: goes on say it is unknown what specifically started the
Speaker 1: June fourth altercation at five am, but it escalated. Melgur
Speaker 1: lost consciousness and worst stopped breathing. The seals attempted to
Speaker 1: open an airway into Melgur's throat. Officials said it is
Speaker 1: unknown whether Melgur died immediately. The Seals, in another Green beret,
Speaker 1: according to former African officials, drove to a nearby French
Speaker 1: clinics seeking help. Melgur was dead when he arrived at
Speaker 1: the clinic. The officials said asphyxiation was the cause of death. Um,
Speaker 1: and you know, one of the quotes here is it
Speaker 1: was the worst excuse the Seals could have made up.
Speaker 1: The autopsy reports said no drugs or alcohol were found
Speaker 1: in Melgur's system, which is what they originally said. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, just going through the whole article, looks like
Speaker 1: there was some illegal activity going on in Seal Team six,
Speaker 1: which has been speculated on for a long time. The
Speaker 1: rest of the article goes on to UM state the
Speaker 1: purpose for that UM program or the program that they
Speaker 1: were a part of in Molly, was to pay out informants.
Speaker 1: So they were in charge of these large sums of cash.
Speaker 1: So that's why that that the possibility for this to
Speaker 1: you know, be of substance is there, because that's they're
Speaker 1: the ones who had direct control of the money. And
Speaker 1: from what I saw in the article, because I'm just
Speaker 1: shifting through it, they said they'd allow Melger to get
Speaker 1: in on this. He declined, offered him and then it
Speaker 1: almost sounded like he was going to wrap them out
Speaker 1: and because he thought what they were doing was wrong,
Speaker 1: and it led to this. So once again, I just
Speaker 1: want to say, so far at this point, this is
Speaker 1: just speculation. Once again, this is just a possible account
Speaker 1: of the story. But through you know, the Corners report
Speaker 1: stating that there was no alcohol or drugs in his
Speaker 1: system at the time, you know, that brings up a
Speaker 1: lot of questions, enough so that the officer in charge
Speaker 1: of the investigation decided to look into a criminal matter,
Speaker 1: and enough to say that the Seals story was bulls. Yes,
Speaker 1: because then you know who's going to be a part
Speaker 1: of the grab bassary when you know you're sober. But
Speaker 1: then again, we've done it everybody, every everybody. Somebody starts
Speaker 1: talking some nonsense, somebody's got more time rolling in the
Speaker 1: gym than somebody else. Fucking Ernie pushes Bert, Bert pushes
Speaker 1: Ernie and temperates flare And I don't want to make
Speaker 1: like a guy died. You know, we're getting a tricky
Speaker 1: otomy done on him drunk by someone drunk. I don't
Speaker 1: kill you, nhl US arrested fucking rasonably opening anyway, who's
Speaker 1: got a big who wrote that? This is? This is
Speaker 1: from um Daily Beast, but I could I could pull
Speaker 1: it up on here. UM. I know that we've been
Speaker 1: writing some stuff at soccer, but that was a big one.
Speaker 1: And it is written by Kevin Mauer and Spencer Ackerman,
Speaker 1: so it's two different authors on that right. I'd like
Speaker 1: to see what their journalism background is, and not that
Speaker 1: they're not capable, it's just it's been my experience when
Speaker 1: we get a flash media like this, it's who knows
Speaker 1: what really went down and who knows where they got
Speaker 1: their facts. I'd like to think that they did. They
Speaker 1: did all the research, that they checked all the leads,
Speaker 1: that they made sure that they weren't putting a bunch
Speaker 1: of nonsense out there. But especially now this time and
Speaker 1: fake news and everything else going on, we we just
Speaker 1: don't know. It's it's terrible that that guy was killed. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: However I wasn't there obviously, But are these guys in
Speaker 1: charge of large quantities of cash to pay off and
Speaker 1: informants or blood money or whatever is going down? Of
Speaker 1: course they are. What about you know because we have
Speaker 1: heard about it on the podcast before from guys. There
Speaker 1: was that huge article in the New York Times of
Speaker 1: just like really crazy activity going on at Sale Team
Speaker 1: six specifically. I I'm not proving to any of that information. However,
Speaker 1: you've got to take into account these guys spend lots
Speaker 1: and lots of time turned on. They're they're kicking doors
Speaker 1: in or shooting bad guys in the face. They live
Speaker 1: in a reality that we just can't comprehend. And whether
Speaker 1: or not they were using performance enhancing drugs or whether
Speaker 1: they're being prescribed by the the eighteen Delta go and
Speaker 1: No Go pills, whether they're participating in an activity to
Speaker 1: keep their general and levels up. Who knows, but you
Speaker 1: can't hold that person to the same standard that we
Speaker 1: hold your normal citizen too, because it's not the same thing.
Speaker 1: We're talking about apples and oranges. We're asking these people
Speaker 1: to go do the fucking dirtiest ship you can imagine
Speaker 1: so we can continue to experience life the way experience it.
Speaker 1: We've had what three terrorists part of me four or
Speaker 1: terrorist attacks in the last seventeen years because these fucking hard, dick,
Speaker 1: fucking dragon slayers are doing the deal every single day,
Speaker 1: and we and we think that we can get our
Speaker 1: brain wrapped around what these guys are experiencing. That's just
Speaker 1: that's just nonsense. That's just the falsehood. It's we're we're
Speaker 1: not capable of ESPEC because we're not there. Especially, guys
Speaker 1: have been operating for so long. You know, these guys
Speaker 1: in these Tier one groups many they're not subjected to
Speaker 1: being moved around by some monitor, some administrative personnel within
Speaker 1: their deal deal. What they don't they don't answer to them.
Speaker 1: They answered directly to the Pentagon and the President, and
Speaker 1: they stay in the communities for a while. We talked
Speaker 1: about this last time, like why would you leave? Why
Speaker 1: would you leave? But then again that that's years of
Speaker 1: that or everything they've done, just harbord and harness inside.
Speaker 1: I mean, and even then that the toll that their
Speaker 1: body takes as well, so to to to say that
Speaker 1: they're using and performance enhancing drugs and I think you
Speaker 1: know other things is you're not saying nothing, really are not.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think it's even possible to continue
Speaker 1: on in that life for so long and not have
Speaker 1: some form of help. Um that being said, these individuals
Speaker 1: still go out there day in the day out and perform,
Speaker 1: like he said, the ugly jobs that need to get done,
Speaker 1: all right, these are the guys that do the ugly
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what has to happen, because there there
Speaker 1: is ugly out there in the world. There are wolves
Speaker 1: out there in the world. You know, we got other
Speaker 1: nations trying to circumvent our security, and you know we've
Speaker 1: got people running over kids on bike pass here look
Speaker 1: at that, and that motherfucker was running around the streets
Speaker 1: and nobody ran his ass over. You can how to
Speaker 1: cut his fucking face off. And Warner as a funcking
Speaker 1: fun that guy. Yeah, yeah, And you know, and what
Speaker 1: I want to say is to me and where I
Speaker 1: come from, is okay. If this is in fact what
Speaker 1: these two individuals, that this was something close to what
Speaker 1: happened or reality, then they're gonna have to pay for it.
Speaker 1: But that's no hit on the rest of the community.
Speaker 1: You know, these are just two guys that just lost
Speaker 1: their way, you know, and they're gonna get to the
Speaker 1: bottom of it. Yeah, definitely, we all we owe it
Speaker 1: to the slain soldier. We all wayl tell him to
Speaker 1: get to the bottom of it. And if it was
Speaker 1: because of some type of misconduct or misdeed that led
Speaker 1: to this unfortunate event, then you know, these guys will pay,
Speaker 1: will pay. They'll be making big rucks in the small
Speaker 1: rocks and Fort levin ward forever. Do you think sometimes
Speaker 1: like the animosity between branches gets to the point of
Speaker 1: like ridiculous sness. I think it's like we enjoy it.
Speaker 1: It's playful fighting, and we talked it all the time,
Speaker 1: and when it leads to the death of a guy, possibly,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think. I don't think it has
Speaker 1: anything to do with that kind of messing around differences
Speaker 1: and it's a different thing altogether. Guys. Guys are going
Speaker 1: to talk ship because if you're not talking ship, you're
Speaker 1: fucking gay, Like, what's the point. It's not in a
Speaker 1: good way, I mean, what's the point. Yeah, you're not
Speaker 1: getting a way that pleasures. Just you're not getting like
Speaker 1: the fucking interior design and you know, the cooking way
Speaker 1: and the Jethrow total fucking act a long way, you know,
Speaker 1: the you're the least past um, you know, but that
Speaker 1: means that we we don't go around and just sucking
Speaker 1: look to actively beat the ship out of somebody else
Speaker 1: in another department. That's not It's just it's like you're
Speaker 1: not playing street ball if you're not talking ship, well exactly.
Speaker 1: You know. The reality is all these guys have specialties
Speaker 1: that they're just absolutely the best that on the planet
Speaker 1: and that inner service. It's it's more camaraderie than anything
Speaker 1: else from my experience. Now, granted the people getting fights.
Speaker 1: Of course, you have personality clashes that happens, but as
Speaker 1: far as real animosity, I don't think so, it hasn't
Speaker 1: been my experience. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing where
Speaker 1: this leads to, you know, and if it's a dead
Speaker 1: ends to dead end, and like I said, I mean
Speaker 1: it's it's not far fetched that it was still a
Speaker 1: fund up game of grab bass. But then again, like
Speaker 1: you said, yes, we owe it to get to the
Speaker 1: bottom of it, you know, And and if what the
Speaker 1: wife is saying is true and all, like I said,
Speaker 1: it deserves the second look, well, we owe it's not
Speaker 1: just to the people immediately affected, we owe it to
Speaker 1: our fucking great nation. This is this is the best
Speaker 1: of the best here. And if that's really what happened,
Speaker 1: and these guys they snapped, and then they need to
Speaker 1: be severely punished for it. But that it's the reason
Speaker 1: it grew legs and it got so huge, is because
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, Seal Team six, and it's a
Speaker 1: it's a green beret, and it's the pointy end of
Speaker 1: the spear, and these guys are downrange all the time.
Speaker 1: And now it's what I don't want to see is
Speaker 1: a knee jerk reaction to this. You know how it
Speaker 1: happens so often in in the government in general, that
Speaker 1: things are put in place to mitigate this after the fact.
Speaker 1: I still don't think these gentlemen deserve that type of
Speaker 1: micromanagement oversight. They need to be allowed to do what
Speaker 1: they gotta do and exactly. And as as you know,
Speaker 1: war evolves, just like everything. Language evolves, technology evolves, war evolves.
Speaker 1: So if you if anybody thinks that micromanaging the guys
Speaker 1: that are actually in that business all day, every day
Speaker 1: is the answer, then they're foolish and we're going to
Speaker 1: lose some fights. And I don't think we will lose fights.
Speaker 1: I think with our our current president and our current structure,
Speaker 1: I think the rest of the planet is realizing, you know,
Speaker 1: this might be a bad decision with the United States.
Speaker 1: You know, granted, whatever gets tweeted or whatever happens in
Speaker 1: a periphery, the reality is we still go to war
Speaker 1: and we're still the vest you're going. I think it
Speaker 1: was Tony Blair who said he judges a country by
Speaker 1: the amount of people trying to get in and the
Speaker 1: amount of people trying to get out, and America still wins.
Speaker 1: Very true. Well, I mean we're we're I thinking about
Speaker 1: the two hour market. But we're gonna have him on again,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna have Steve back on for sure, motherfucker
Speaker 1: ever time. No, we'll have you back. So yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just a you know, a couple of weeks away, we'll
Speaker 1: do a full show. I'm looking forward to it. Um
Speaker 1: before we get out of here, anything that you're plugging
Speaker 1: your business, you want to get out there. You're not
Speaker 1: on social media or any of that other than your
Speaker 1: own person stuff. What would The reality is, I have
Speaker 1: some pretty high end clients and I not to be
Speaker 1: a fucking asshole and not to orally inflate myself, but
Speaker 1: it's it's all word of mouth and the people that
Speaker 1: need me find me. So Steve is proving like not
Speaker 1: all Navy seals want to write books, and if it
Speaker 1: would be, it would be pornographic. If you did, hey,
Speaker 1: people would probably dig that many. There was a Navy
Speaker 1: seal horn star remember that coming out? Yeah, but he
Speaker 1: was He was hung like a cold, wit frightened bull spider.
Speaker 1: At least that's what I thought when I was banging.
Speaker 1: I I love it man. Alright, well, wrapping things up here.
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