Speaker 1: H ah beautiful. If it doesn't work, you're just not
Speaker 1: using enough. You're listening to software radio, special operations, military
Speaker 1: news and straight talk with the guys in the community,
Speaker 1: Army ranger and Green Beret Jack Murphy Lasagna. Don't get
Speaker 1: any on your Marine Scouts. Sniper Jason Delgado is just
Speaker 1: something we believe it. I associate that with taste. But
Speaker 1: I like freaking chocolate chi may Why is it flavor? Boring?
Speaker 1: The whole Lively board And now here's your co host
Speaker 1: and producer of this operation, Ian Scott, l softrep dot
Speaker 1: Com on time on Target. I still get excited hearing
Speaker 1: the new intro and the new imaging and Jason Delgado
Speaker 1: in studio with me as usual. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know where Jack jack Actually I posted a picture on Instagram, uh,
Speaker 1: for those wondering where he is, and it's all over
Speaker 1: the world. I saw that is that where is he now?
Speaker 1: Type picture in Serbia and and he's got his honeymoon
Speaker 1: coming up in India. So the funny thing, what the hell?
Speaker 1: I guess not. But the funny thing with him, um,
Speaker 1: and I think I've told you is he'll be like
Speaker 1: he's already saying we gotta get this guy on. He's
Speaker 1: given me like a million guests. Dude, just tell me
Speaker 1: when you can come in studio, because until you come
Speaker 1: in studio, it's it's Jason Delgado and myself, especially for
Speaker 1: his guests, you know, it kind of it's it's like
Speaker 1: at the tattoo shop. You know, we don't want to
Speaker 1: snake your clients. If you're referring the guy to be
Speaker 1: a guest, you probably are more intrigued and too. Of
Speaker 1: course specific thing that you want to discuss with them
Speaker 1: and stuff. You know, I would do it. Don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong. I'm always the ones to rise to an occasion.
Speaker 1: But I think it'll probably be more comfortable if your
Speaker 1: your personal guests get to see you. You know. That's
Speaker 1: probably what the whole arrangement was. Yeah, I feel the
Speaker 1: same way as you and and oftentimes Jack is not
Speaker 1: into interviewing the guy who has like the big memoir
Speaker 1: out like to him, Rob O'Neil is not as interesting
Speaker 1: as he is to you and I. But he'll have
Speaker 1: some academic on like Dan green Um, you know, who's
Speaker 1: also a veteran. But he's like, this is fascinating. So
Speaker 1: what he finds everybody just has different things that they're into,
Speaker 1: and I group you out a lot, you know, I
Speaker 1: go for the popular ones. I I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: of some who you would say, like I grouped out
Speaker 1: for to use that language of I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: of someone that I've met here that I was like,
Speaker 1: Holy sh it, this is huge. I mean, having buzz
Speaker 1: altern on that wasn't in person Blauz al Driant, Dude,
Speaker 1: that I don't think I would know how to act.
Speaker 1: That's crazy to Yeah, the fact that, like you're interviewing
Speaker 1: one of the first men to land on the moon. Um.
Speaker 1: And then not only that, I believe he went on.
Speaker 1: He went on to like do expeditions and stuff like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: come on that, and like why I just want to
Speaker 1: ask him why, because I'm a big you know, ancient
Speaker 1: alien theorists as well, you know what I mean, or
Speaker 1: I subscribe to, uh that way of thinking, And I
Speaker 1: just want to know, is did that did that actually
Speaker 1: lead him to was that whole experience of looking at
Speaker 1: the Earth from that point of view, was that would
Speaker 1: lead you to believe that there's more out there? And
Speaker 1: you know, you can probably find evidence through expeditions and
Speaker 1: that you know, I don't know. I just want to
Speaker 1: know what was in his head. Yeah, we gotta have
Speaker 1: him back on UM hopefully. Uh so episode three oh one. Uh,
Speaker 1: we have some emails to get to. The first thing
Speaker 1: that that I was wondering. UM, if you want to
Speaker 1: get into was you know, unfortunate news. But the four
Speaker 1: Marines camp Penalton, and you sent me over an article
Speaker 1: about it. I know you're reading up on. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean there's very little out there right now. Um, the
Speaker 1: Marine Corps in and of itself contacted the family. I
Speaker 1: mean it was they all perished together. So, UM, these
Speaker 1: are EO e O D technicians. Um, from what I read,
Speaker 1: it was very little in the article. But from what
Speaker 1: I read, they were at a UM at an impact
Speaker 1: area on a range or the impact area of a
Speaker 1: there we have facilities on our basis that are just
Speaker 1: a ton of ranges like back to back with each other,
Speaker 1: and they all share the same impact area. So if
Speaker 1: it's like you know, mortars or artillery or you know,
Speaker 1: what have you, things that just go boom. So what
Speaker 1: the e O D technicians, UM, other duties entail aside
Speaker 1: from you know, dismantling bombs. And all this other stuff.
Speaker 1: They go out to the impact areas and they explode
Speaker 1: unexploded ordinances you expose, we call them, and they do
Speaker 1: it through empathetic detonations. Um. They have fifty caliber um rifles,
Speaker 1: scope rifles disasters that made three, one or seven. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure. I'm not sure if they have that nowadays.
Speaker 1: It might be something more current. You know, I've been
Speaker 1: out for a while. Um. They also have tricked out
Speaker 1: M four teens, which are like d m R. They
Speaker 1: call him DMRs and they actually shoot at the munitions
Speaker 1: and you know, sympathetically explode them. And also they also
Speaker 1: put another charge on them, like some C four or
Speaker 1: whatever if it's something big. UM. So that is what
Speaker 1: I was assuming is going what's going on at this time? UM,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure exactly what happened in which all four
Speaker 1: of them perish at the same time. It was definitely
Speaker 1: no good. I mean, whatever it was, it was definitely terrible,
Speaker 1: terrible incident. And you know, my heart goes out to
Speaker 1: their family members and you know, rest easy, you know, killers,
Speaker 1: You'll see you see you when we get to Valhalla,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, and all, um, late twenties to early thirties.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you got Miguel Ortiz of this a Vista
Speaker 1: Marine since you thus in six. UM. Gunnery Sergeant Jay
Speaker 1: Owens of Louisiana, UM, eleven year old Marine Corps veteran,
Speaker 1: eleven year Marine Corps veteran, UH, thirty two year old
Speaker 1: Staff Sergeant Eric W. Summers of Missouri. UH he was
Speaker 1: with the Corps for thirteen years. UM. And yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess that's everybody right there or is that just three there?
Speaker 1: There's UM? Oh yeah, and staff Sergeant Matthew marsh of
Speaker 1: Long Beach. I'm assuming that's Long Beach, California, UM, who
Speaker 1: had been a Marine since two thousand three. So these
Speaker 1: are you know, they're not older with their season guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely season. You know we're talking about gunnies and staff
Speaker 1: aren's eleven thirteen years. They knew their stuff. So whatever happened,
Speaker 1: you know, UM, I'd like to see what came from it.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe we can learn something from it. You know,
Speaker 1: for the younger generation that comes in, they'll be able to,
Speaker 1: you know, learn from this mistake. You know, terrible, terrible
Speaker 1: incident and you know, sleep in peace, brothers. That's all
Speaker 1: that I say. Yeah, all said, man, Um, we had
Speaker 1: a few emails UM, which I you know, I read
Speaker 1: them all. I appreciate it. I'll get to just this
Speaker 1: one for right now though, because I thought this was
Speaker 1: a good one. Um, but keep sending the Softrep dot
Speaker 1: Radio at soft rep dot com. I'll be honest. I
Speaker 1: you know, I was talking to Jason about the emails before.
Speaker 1: I try to stay away from some of the like
Speaker 1: more political ones because it's funny, like, if someone praises
Speaker 1: Trump on this podcast, you're gonna get shipped for it.
Speaker 1: If someone bashes Trump on this podcast, we get shipped
Speaker 1: for it. But that's good. That's and I get it.
Speaker 1: That's good because that means we have listeners on both sides.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Yeah. I can't ask for anything else. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I do think there's we're talking about it
Speaker 1: for probably right leaning, but there's there's certain people who
Speaker 1: in particular or like when Derek comes on, they'll be like, wow,
Speaker 1: it's great to hear someone who's not on the right,
Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, it's great that we have a
Speaker 1: versatile um listening base. And actually, speaking of which, it's
Speaker 1: really cool that we have like a really good amount
Speaker 1: of female listeners. Like people always assume soft rep is
Speaker 1: all mails, but this is an email from a female
Speaker 1: listener from Tara. Morning guys that we've been recording these
Speaker 1: at night, so technically not morning. I just wanted to
Speaker 1: say I've been catching up with your podcasts, currently listening
Speaker 1: to episode to nine, and I've been cracking up at
Speaker 1: the banter between all of you. Keep up the awesome work.
Speaker 1: I have half a dozen tabs open at work to
Speaker 1: google things you and your guests and previous clips have mentioned.
Speaker 1: She references an hour and thirty six into that episode,
Speaker 1: so I guess we said something that needed to be googled. Um.
Speaker 1: By the way, looking forward to checking out that book,
Speaker 1: War and Conflict in Africa, So I guess that's her
Speaker 1: idea of what Derek's title is a book that would
Speaker 1: be awesome. Yeah. Also love the AUSEE write in comment
Speaker 1: that you shared on the air about AUSEE special Ops.
Speaker 1: Thanks again, sincerely, Tara. So yeah, we appreciate Thank you, Tara,
Speaker 1: appreciate it, and we appreciate all our listeners, whether you're liberal, conservative, female, male, transgender,
Speaker 1: transgender had Kristen Beck on the podcast headed you know
Speaker 1: we you know, well, well we'll listen to and we'll
Speaker 1: interview anyone, you know, if you've got something to say
Speaker 1: and it's worth people listening to it. Yeah, why not? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: I mean especially it's funny with like kristin back anybody
Speaker 1: who's ever been like, why would you have Christen on
Speaker 1: the podcast? Like Seal Team six hello? Uh? You know
Speaker 1: it was instrumental in the operations that killed bin Uan,
Speaker 1: Like wasn't there on the raid, but was a part
Speaker 1: of gathering the information that led to what Rob O'Neil
Speaker 1: and the other guys at dev Grew did. Look, I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not the type of person too, and I'm
Speaker 1: not saying he fell from grace, but I'm not the
Speaker 1: type of person to forget so easily where a person
Speaker 1: came from or what they've done. The fact that this
Speaker 1: man was dev Grew, you know, like you guys can't
Speaker 1: even fathom what it were, what it requires to to
Speaker 1: be there and get there, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So respect, respect is respect, you know, no matter what
Speaker 1: a person decides to do will become after the fact,
Speaker 1: you know, and that we were talking about that just
Speaker 1: a few minutes ago. Um and reference to the race thing,
Speaker 1: you know, where you you pretty much called it. You said,
Speaker 1: I I feel as if you would relate more to
Speaker 1: whatever color veteran combat veteran then you would to just
Speaker 1: some random Puerto Rican guy. And yeah, I agreed with you.
Speaker 1: That's a right there, that's definitely it so. And that's
Speaker 1: because it's a mutual respect and I can trust that
Speaker 1: person's you know, upbringing within the military, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So, like I said, they're cut from the
Speaker 1: same cloth. Anyone that's done that I respect tremendously. And
Speaker 1: from there they're gonna have my ear, you know. So
Speaker 1: that was that was spot on you. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: even for myself when I meet veterans now, especially they're
Speaker 1: special ops veterans like I have something to talk about.
Speaker 1: I have some background, uh in their world, and like,
Speaker 1: to me, that's those type of things are more important
Speaker 1: than what your skin color is, what you know, what
Speaker 1: country of origin, your family stroma. I mean, it's at
Speaker 1: the same time, you know, you often talk about it
Speaker 1: like be proud of who you are, and no matter
Speaker 1: what you come out, you should be out of of
Speaker 1: who you are. I think, Um, that doesn't define you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't let no one chase you away from from being
Speaker 1: proud of your lineage. If you're white and you're Irish
Speaker 1: or German or whatever the hell you are, be proud
Speaker 1: of that. You know, I'm not gonna hate on you
Speaker 1: for being proud proud white American. I'm not gonna hate
Speaker 1: on you for being a proud Black American. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna hate on you for being a proud Puerto Rican, Mexican. Whatever.
Speaker 1: Be proud of your lineage. Let it live on. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what makes this country so beautiful. You know. We
Speaker 1: have a tremendous amount of different colors within our fabric,
Speaker 1: you know, and without that, I don't know where we
Speaker 1: would be. You know. Yeah, which I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: transitions kind of beautifully into another thing we were talking about. Uh, like,
Speaker 1: with the current climate, you're supposed to feel guilty if
Speaker 1: you're a man. Oh, you know, with the amount of
Speaker 1: allegations coming out, and as we both said, some of these,
Speaker 1: some of these are very serious. I think the problem
Speaker 1: is when you equate, you know, something that made you
Speaker 1: on comfortable with being raped, being violently assaulted. Like there's
Speaker 1: there's layers of of you know, what people are talking
Speaker 1: about and coming out about, and the thing is It's
Speaker 1: like there's two sides to every story. And I'll be
Speaker 1: the one to say it because I ain't famous and
Speaker 1: I don't got nothing to lose, I really don't. So
Speaker 1: the truth is, I also know, just like there are creepy,
Speaker 1: freaking men out there that our child molesters, pedophiles, you know,
Speaker 1: which is the same um you know, perverts, you know
Speaker 1: guys that will you know, sexually assault a woman. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's terrible There's there's terrible guys out there. There there are,
Speaker 1: But on the other side of that coin, they're probably
Speaker 1: terrible women too that are vindictive. I'm gonna say it.
Speaker 1: Why not? Why can't we look at it with both
Speaker 1: eyes open? Why do we always have to automatically straight
Speaker 1: away once once someone is accused of something of the sort.
Speaker 1: I mean, the best example of that would be and
Speaker 1: I have a little bit of a connection here. I
Speaker 1: went to you know school and part of high school
Speaker 1: with one of the duke lacrosse that rapist, and it
Speaker 1: turned out the whim the woman was exactly what you're describing,
Speaker 1: you know. The guy who I knew, Colin Finnerty, wasn't
Speaker 1: even there when the whole thing went down, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure she named them, and it was when she gave
Speaker 1: her account, it was vivid, it was an emotional, uh detailed,
Speaker 1: detailed account, and then she murdered a guy. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you know, I think everyone needs to calm down, unless
Speaker 1: you felt as if you heard enough of the hearsay
Speaker 1: to make that decision right then and there. But you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys that are being accused of this,
Speaker 1: the sexual assaults, like their careers are pretty much being
Speaker 1: drugged through the mud right now. Well, the one that
Speaker 1: that got you pretty pissed was the Louise Louis c
Speaker 1: k one. Can you just give us a little background
Speaker 1: on that? Yeah, I mean, I I heard about the
Speaker 1: whole New York Times piece, and you know, obviously what
Speaker 1: he did is completely inappropriate because it was with people
Speaker 1: the same profession and that type of thing. But you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, the biggest one of which you know that
Speaker 1: came out the New York Times was him masturbating on
Speaker 1: these two girls. But you know, I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: excuse it, but the fact is, like, as you said,
Speaker 1: they didn't try to leave the room, and what they
Speaker 1: wrote they so didn't make any attempt to leave and
Speaker 1: and they're coming out years and years and years later,
Speaker 1: and to me, it's just like equating this with a
Speaker 1: violent rapist or something of that nature, or what Kevin
Speaker 1: Spacey did of you know, people underage like I do,
Speaker 1: think that there's a big difference. So it's like, all right,
Speaker 1: So they accused him of basically pulling out his remember
Speaker 1: his meat, and yeah, I know, but you know it's
Speaker 1: it's like whatever, pulling out his meat and you know,
Speaker 1: whacking off on both of them in an hotel room.
Speaker 1: So the thing is, these two women apparently they got
Speaker 1: to open up for Lucy Cark or whatever during a
Speaker 1: comedy show and they were like so late, oh, like
Speaker 1: Louis Lee Cart that's great whatever, you know, this has
Speaker 1: been my dream. After the fact, they he invited them
Speaker 1: to the hotel room, they said the bars were closed,
Speaker 1: so why not. They want to have a nightcap and
Speaker 1: celebrate their you know, their accomplishment. So then Louis c
Speaker 1: Carc you know, lets him in the room and they
Speaker 1: said it took damn you or no time at all.
Speaker 1: He comes out and openly, you know, says, hey, you guys,
Speaker 1: minded my jerk off on you guys, And they didn't
Speaker 1: In the article, they didn't mention whether they said yes
Speaker 1: or no. Ory okay, they said they laughed, yeah, you
Speaker 1: could only laugh for so long, though apparently they said
Speaker 1: he started taking off his clothes and got completely naked.
Speaker 1: At what point are you are you staring at this
Speaker 1: fucking overweight guy getting completely naked and say to yourself,
Speaker 1: she is getting weird? I leave, you know, and still
Speaker 1: stay there to the point where his penis gets erect.
Speaker 1: He starts stroking it, and then he bust is a
Speaker 1: load on not one two of you guys standing there
Speaker 1: like fucking strength and numbers full? Why are you not
Speaker 1: gonna get up? Say ill throw something at him and
Speaker 1: storm out of the room. Though, but you stood there
Speaker 1: and you took it. That's that's your that's their claim.
Speaker 1: And then in the article they stopped right there. They
Speaker 1: didn't say whether the ladies accepted it, whether they say yeah,
Speaker 1: whether they were looking like baby birds with their mouths open, nothing,
Speaker 1: and didn't say any of that. And then they go
Speaker 1: straight into a woman that accused him of beating off
Speaker 1: to her voice on the phone, and she says it
Speaker 1: sounded as if he was jerking off, and she was
Speaker 1: pretty much a hunted percent. Sure, So that's they jumped
Speaker 1: right into that scenario. And all I'm saying is, man,
Speaker 1: he could eat all right fun. He didn't go on
Speaker 1: the treadmill because he fat as fun. But you know what,
Speaker 1: but he could have been tied. I don't know, as hearsay,
Speaker 1: but still maybe he was beating off. But it's not
Speaker 1: sexual assault. You could have hung up the phone and
Speaker 1: advice very to the other two baby birds. You could
Speaker 1: have got up and walked out, you know. So he apologized,
Speaker 1: and you know, apparently his stuff is now anceled everywhere.
Speaker 1: That's what's fucked up. I mean, he asked. Then he asked,
Speaker 1: can I beat off on you girls? And then proceeded
Speaker 1: to beat off. So there we must have been a
Speaker 1: wink or not. Silence is consent, funk, I know, dude.
Speaker 1: All I know is they stood there. Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: a really weird scenario. I don't think he deserves to
Speaker 1: have his career completely shut down over this, but that's
Speaker 1: what that looks like where it is. And it's because
Speaker 1: like this is kind of yeah, he definitely is freaky
Speaker 1: that this is like the new trend. And uh, you know,
Speaker 1: and as we said before, it's not to downplay people
Speaker 1: who are real victims of which you know, I could
Speaker 1: understand if they were traumatized by this they didn't make
Speaker 1: the right decision. But I don't see it in the
Speaker 1: same way as like a real rape pedophilia, as you said,
Speaker 1: like those are very serious issues that need to be addressed.
Speaker 1: As you were saying stuff Corey Feldman is talking about,
Speaker 1: Like Corey Feldman, man that one right there, Like, I'm
Speaker 1: a big fan of doctor Oz and man, I just
Speaker 1: love listening to Doctor Oz. He's a cool dude, downer
Speaker 1: of New York, are super successful and he wait, just
Speaker 1: I love I love listening to him. And when he
Speaker 1: put Corey filming on and he started talking about what
Speaker 1: he talked about, I just felt like, Yeah, this kid
Speaker 1: is like this guy is this man is grown man,
Speaker 1: he's older than me. Is really kicking the truth because
Speaker 1: he has no what the hell I mean, he's a psycho.
Speaker 1: And it kind of leads into what happened to him
Speaker 1: as a child, Like how do you cope with that?
Speaker 1: How do you deal with that? Of course you're gonna
Speaker 1: be overly sexually active. Of course you're gonna have you know, uh,
Speaker 1: you know what do you call him um monogamy issues?
Speaker 1: You know you're gonna you're gonna be psycho, especially after
Speaker 1: you've been you know, you know, diddled by two grown
Speaker 1: as nasty men, you know, and as a child, you
Speaker 1: know your your trust has been betrayed. And to go
Speaker 1: past that line, I don't think there's coming and coming
Speaker 1: back from that. But what he did was, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: past the limit of of statue, statue of limitations, it's
Speaker 1: past that. But he's coming out. He's coming out, and
Speaker 1: it's not people are like, oh, why is he coming
Speaker 1: out now? Because it's past the statue of limits. It
Speaker 1: because these motherfucker's are still alive. And he was talking
Speaker 1: to about her name for this though he was, you know,
Speaker 1: and he got kind of laughed off, and that's bullshit.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think that's bullshit. And I think
Speaker 1: Dr Oz really did what he had to do and
Speaker 1: take charge of it, and he even ran the investigation,
Speaker 1: kept pushing it get you know, to the point where
Speaker 1: now at least we know of at to this moment too,
Speaker 1: pedophiles that are still out there and you know, on
Speaker 1: on the lamb or whatever the hell they're doing, because
Speaker 1: they're on the run. You know, one of them is
Speaker 1: Scott Warren's and the other one I think lives in
Speaker 1: counterda to some ship. But you know, these are two
Speaker 1: pedophiles that are out there that now people know their
Speaker 1: name and know how they look. So if they're around
Speaker 1: your children, be aware and that he did great by them,
Speaker 1: you know, or by that you know so good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you are right that that it's gonna affect the rest
Speaker 1: of your life. I mean. The other example I think
Speaker 1: of of, like a guy who has had these public
Speaker 1: outbursts that seem kind of weird, and I know you're
Speaker 1: a hip hop fan, is like Busy Bone from Bone
Speaker 1: Thugs and Army. He was molested by some guy, and
Speaker 1: like that's why you hear about these like blow ups
Speaker 1: at radio stations where he's allegedly like high on crack
Speaker 1: or something like that and rambling and you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sure that that has to have some effect on it.
Speaker 1: You know, you can only imagine that's probably a terrible
Speaker 1: thing to have to close your eyes at night, relive
Speaker 1: that in your mind, wake up and say, holy sh it,
Speaker 1: it wasn't a nightmare. This ship is my life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's terrible, And it plays into what we've talked about.
Speaker 1: I really, like I've said on the podcast with Nick,
Speaker 1: I know the person. Um, I don't know when he's
Speaker 1: going to be more public about it and become on
Speaker 1: the podcast. Yeah, there was a guy who I've met before, um,
Speaker 1: you know who's a friend to many guys at the site.
Speaker 1: Who this older doctor or this older guy at the
Speaker 1: v A. I don't thin he's an actual doctor. It
Speaker 1: started like asking touch this guy's genitals for like far
Speaker 1: longer than he should have been. And this guy was
Speaker 1: an and and he decided like I'm gonna take action.
Speaker 1: And you know, when people hear about to have these
Speaker 1: like stereotypes of the guys who you know, quote A, Wow,
Speaker 1: this to go on, like dude, this is a tough
Speaker 1: guy who's getting the bar fights and ship like he's
Speaker 1: not a guy that you want to funk with. But
Speaker 1: it happened to him, you know. And and luckily he's
Speaker 1: he came out and and did something about it. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know at what point he's gonna maybe like
Speaker 1: come on the show. We'll have to have him on.
Speaker 1: He's you know, he's your friend of many of ours. Yeah,
Speaker 1: these creepers are out there, man, dude in the sauna.
Speaker 1: Back to the sauna couple of weeks ago. I'm in
Speaker 1: there and I like to jam out to tunes when
Speaker 1: there's no good fucking conversations going on. So I'm jamming
Speaker 1: out to tunes and I gotta itchy back, so I
Speaker 1: start scratching my back, and you know, I'm not the
Speaker 1: smallest dude, so it's hard for me to get around.
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to scratch my back and this fucking
Speaker 1: fat ball guy sweating there. He's like Eastern European or whatever.
Speaker 1: He's like looking at me, and the next thing he goes,
Speaker 1: you want to scratcher back? And then he goes and
Speaker 1: starts scratching my back and I just slapped his hand away.
Speaker 1: I'm like, na scratch my own motherfucking back. Don't touch
Speaker 1: me again. And I just, you know, kind of get
Speaker 1: that stone cold face, you know, like I just got
Speaker 1: creeped out after that ruined my whole day. How to
Speaker 1: get out? You know, don't touch another man if he
Speaker 1: don't invite you to touch him. You know, that's like
Speaker 1: and the same thing with children. You're also a pretty
Speaker 1: big dude, Like, dude, like those cras, are you crazy?
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't care about that cultural ship.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, I've been to a lot of countries.
Speaker 1: Gay is gay, all right. That's the crazy thing that
Speaker 1: came out though, of all this Hollywood stuff was um,
Speaker 1: what the heck's name? Man who was in Friday, Big
Speaker 1: Terry Terry Um, Terry Crews, Yeah, Terry Crews. He just
Speaker 1: came out and the same thing, like what the hell?
Speaker 1: And you know, why is he going to come out
Speaker 1: and say something like that, You guys are just crazy?
Speaker 1: He said. It was interesting though, was he said that
Speaker 1: people were like, you're Terry Crews, You're a big dude.
Speaker 1: Why didn't you just like punch this guy in the face.
Speaker 1: And his explanation was he was like, I'm a big
Speaker 1: black man in Hollywood. If I sucked some like white
Speaker 1: Jewish director or whatever, he's like, it's not gonna hold
Speaker 1: good for me. So he's like, it's not as easy
Speaker 1: as people think. So and that's in. You know, I
Speaker 1: guess this go. I'm sure someone is gonna email us
Speaker 1: and make a similar argument for the Louis c k thing.
Speaker 1: You know, like, you don't know unless you're there, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't know, You're right, You're absolutely right. You don't
Speaker 1: know unless you're there, and you know they probably felt
Speaker 1: the women, they probably felt helpless because they felt as if,
Speaker 1: you know, this was their one shot or whatever. I
Speaker 1: totally get the whole deal. But at some point you're
Speaker 1: that that means you're contemplating your career over your morals,
Speaker 1: and it's causing you to hesitate. And I haven't been
Speaker 1: the one to hesitate, is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1: I don't freeze up because to me, my moral superseded
Speaker 1: that of my financial status or my fucking career. That's true.
Speaker 1: And you know, if you're doing the right exactly, and
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's just playing a simple If I feel
Speaker 1: it's wrong, it's wrong. See. But that's the thing is
Speaker 1: with a lot of veterans though, you know, like we
Speaker 1: live in that black and white you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But as far as you know our situation with the
Speaker 1: other fellow, God knows what happened, what was he thinking.
Speaker 1: But sometimes you freeze up. You don't know how to
Speaker 1: act in that situation because you never thought it was
Speaker 1: gonna go down right then and there, so your body
Speaker 1: goes into like a freaking shutdown, like well, damn, what
Speaker 1: do I do? And next thing, you know, a few
Speaker 1: minutes go by and it's just like, okay, yeah, the
Speaker 1: v a thing what I think, you know, And like
Speaker 1: I said'd be great to have him on. But the
Speaker 1: thing that I think could be that he was there
Speaker 1: for some routine thing and maybe in his head he
Speaker 1: was like, oh, maybe he needs to check this out,
Speaker 1: and then probably he was like that didn't make any sense.
Speaker 1: I got my meat honked in Iraqi airport once. Yeah,
Speaker 1: his fucking freak show was like patting me down before
Speaker 1: while I was going to the checkpoint and he gets
Speaker 1: to my junk area and he squeezes it with his
Speaker 1: two fingers like it's thumb and his his index finger
Speaker 1: and he squeezes it once. He looks up at me
Speaker 1: that he squeezes it again. I'm like, yeah, bro, that's
Speaker 1: my fucking cock. Stop squeezing it, and he's just looking
Speaker 1: at me. It was weird. Who squeezes the cop during
Speaker 1: I've trained in pat downs. That guy fondled me funk
Speaker 1: that that dude was squeezing my cock. But that was
Speaker 1: so weird. That was so freaky, and it had it
Speaker 1: will happen at the DRUP like you don't. You won't
Speaker 1: expect it to happen, you know, but you're just like bro,
Speaker 1: and like you said, it was a routine thing where
Speaker 1: a man is putting his hands on me to pat
Speaker 1: me down at airport, no less, and here you go
Speaker 1: like honk honk, Like whoa, yeah, that's exactly what you
Speaker 1: think it is, buddy, you wow. So we have we
Speaker 1: have the Odissean standing by. That's who I was texting. Um,
Speaker 1: I guess really quick before we have him on. Uh
Speaker 1: you text me about this actually before one of the
Speaker 1: last shows. But I figured at least like get your
Speaker 1: take on it, the marijuana stuff for New York, for
Speaker 1: for veterans with PTSD. Just wanted to get your stuf
Speaker 1: on it. You know, let's clarify the whole marijuana thing
Speaker 1: in New York. Medical marijuana is legal in New York. However,
Speaker 1: it must be an either pill or edible form. And
Speaker 1: I know for the average marijuana smoker especially, there's only
Speaker 1: two forms of weed in New York. That's hayes, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I don't know about this pills
Speaker 1: and uh edible stuff, but you know, so that's that
Speaker 1: all right. So before you rush out to get your
Speaker 1: marijuana card in New York, guys realized that it's not
Speaker 1: for the greenery. Guys, all right, it's for that, and
Speaker 1: you're you're can only purchase it at an approve um dispensary,
Speaker 1: you know, according to New York whatever it is, so
Speaker 1: it's probably gonna be super expensive whatever. Then New York has,
Speaker 1: you know, funny ways of keeping tabs and track of everything.
Speaker 1: And what I don't want to happen is, which I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure is the case, where you go you go
Speaker 1: on this registry as having to depend on a Schedule
Speaker 1: one narcotic because it's still Schedule one narcotic, right, and
Speaker 1: you're not able to get your concealed weapons permit, although
Speaker 1: not many can in the state of in the City
Speaker 1: of New York unless you're Brandon Webb and Ship and
Speaker 1: a couple other Jewish lawyers out there. But it's anyway,
Speaker 1: there was a whole thing about it, So I'm not lying. Okay,
Speaker 1: they got busted all right for selling permits anyway, you know,
Speaker 1: So I don't want to go on this registry. And
Speaker 1: next to you know, oh, I'm sorry, Mr Delgado, we
Speaker 1: can't issue you your concealed weapons permit and give you
Speaker 1: the right to defend yourself in your home even you know,
Speaker 1: because you take marriw Wanna pills and what go to bed.
Speaker 1: You know, Like, what the hell are you serious? So
Speaker 1: I'm afraid of New York and I'm afraid of big
Speaker 1: government for stuff like that, actually, you know, and I
Speaker 1: think a lot of us are. So until they legalize
Speaker 1: it federally, I say, take your little uh what they
Speaker 1: call it, besk appearance ticket or misdemeanor, you know, and
Speaker 1: keep it moving, you know what I mean, because it's
Speaker 1: not a felony anymore. I think to a certain extent,
Speaker 1: it's just still a fine or something to a certain amount,
Speaker 1: which already happened because a lot of cops. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you, if you're on the West Side Highway, even
Speaker 1: with your windows open, you're gonna smell marijuana. In New
Speaker 1: York seems to look the other way. I mean, just
Speaker 1: walking around New York, you smell marijuana. Theywhere I see
Speaker 1: people smoking it. You know, it's not it's not what
Speaker 1: it was five years ago. It's like the whole with
Speaker 1: me marijuana two cops is uh the key to the
Speaker 1: door to open up and find out what's behind it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Don't be a dick. Like
Speaker 1: if you're smoking pot and a cop comes up to you, like,
Speaker 1: what are you smoking pot? Man? Sorry? Whatever, put it out, Okay,
Speaker 1: fucking step on it, put it out, throw it away,
Speaker 1: whatever if he tells, because cops are not gonna want
Speaker 1: to bring you in and do hours of paperwork and
Speaker 1: all this crap for fucking j you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Because for one, like I said, I'm not sure. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure it's a fine now. And too, they're gonna
Speaker 1: do all that stuff that I just mentioned if you
Speaker 1: continue to be an asshole to them. So, like I said,
Speaker 1: that's the key to the door for them to open
Speaker 1: up and say, Okay, give me your I D search
Speaker 1: for warrants, you know, let me pat you down real quick,
Speaker 1: see if you're holding anything. So, in other words, if
Speaker 1: you're a fucking happy stoner, don't worry. New York is
Speaker 1: not gonna screw you over. But if you're a d
Speaker 1: bag and you're giving cops flax flak out here, yeah
Speaker 1: it's going down. You're gonna sleep on a crackheads foot
Speaker 1: that night and sent your book And you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, but they are going to go after dealers
Speaker 1: for sure. Oh yeah. Um. Actually, right outside of the studio.
Speaker 1: I remember I mentioned on the podcast there was that
Speaker 1: like thirteen nights were fish play in Madison Square Guarden.
Speaker 1: You remember that, so you know people are on But
Speaker 1: there were people out side selling those nitrous ox side balloons.
Speaker 1: And I was at the gym with my friend who's NYPD,
Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, I fucking tackled one of those
Speaker 1: guys with the nitrous ox side tank, like took his money,
Speaker 1: you know, brought it in and everything, and like that
Speaker 1: type of ship. Yeah, they're gonna go after if you're
Speaker 1: out in the open like selling nitrous ox side. And
Speaker 1: be courteous too, especially for pop smokers. And this is
Speaker 1: even in places where it is legal. There's just because
Speaker 1: it's legal. Don't mean a parent wance you blowing that
Speaker 1: ship in their kid's face. You know, be discreet about it.
Speaker 1: Go smoking an alley going and I know it feels uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: but it's the same thing drinking. You're not gonna walk
Speaker 1: in public and drink open container in public, you know,
Speaker 1: you just being a bar or you know, drink at home.
Speaker 1: Same thing with the marijuana. Fucking go smoke where people smoke,
Speaker 1: or stay home or smoking an alley, or if you
Speaker 1: got to take a quick smoke, break duck out somewhere,
Speaker 1: don't do it. And that's so rude, you know, just
Speaker 1: be considerate. These are weird tips from I stopped smoking
Speaker 1: a while ago, actually, but I don't because you know,
Speaker 1: it's cool. But I admit it because let me tell you,
Speaker 1: I was on a lot of medication from the v A,
Speaker 1: A lot of antidepressents, a lot of bipolar medication, and
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, every time I went into the v
Speaker 1: v A, I got a new medication. I still have
Speaker 1: my medicine cabinet full of prescriptions and I know I'm
Speaker 1: supposed to. I'm sorry, prescriptions. Did I say that right?
Speaker 1: The New York is coming out? Alright, cool New York.
Speaker 1: I know I hate it sometimes, but yeah, because it
Speaker 1: makes you, yeah, I guess so. So anyway, I still
Speaker 1: have them because I like looking at how ridiculous and
Speaker 1: asinine the just the handing out of medication and the
Speaker 1: v A is and this stuff. Let me tell you
Speaker 1: some of these antidepressant stuff that they made the nerves
Speaker 1: in my face like numb and like you could see
Speaker 1: like the my cheek muscles with like collapse. It's like
Speaker 1: it's weird. I looked like freaking, oh my god, I
Speaker 1: look like an eighty year old fucking debutant. It was ridiculous.
Speaker 1: So marijuana helped me to not take any of that,
Speaker 1: and it got me to the point where my hyper
Speaker 1: aggression fucking dwindle out. Eventually. Um, I I was chilling,
Speaker 1: I was eating, saving money, and I wasn't on none
Speaker 1: of that crap. I could drive on weed because, uh,
Speaker 1: for those of you who don't smoke marijuana, it's like cigarettes.
Speaker 1: If you smoke the cigarette for the first time, you're
Speaker 1: gonna get all woozy and dizzy. The moment you start
Speaker 1: smoking it a few times a day, you become functioning. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know they want to I don't want to say addict,
Speaker 1: but you smoke marijuana doesn't affect you that much. It's
Speaker 1: like whatever. Um, So it's it's probably the best thing
Speaker 1: to even drive on, especially in New York because traffic,
Speaker 1: no traffic. You're cool either way. You're like funk dah,
Speaker 1: I got good tunes on this ship is tight, you know. Um.
Speaker 1: But that helped. But it got to the point where
Speaker 1: it was making me nonproductive. I started procrastinating on things.
Speaker 1: I stopped paying bills late. I didn't, you know, submit
Speaker 1: my writing projects on time. You know, I was probably
Speaker 1: tattooing one person a day at the tattoo shop because
Speaker 1: I was just being sluggish. And I realized this, and
Speaker 1: it got to a point where I said, okay, I
Speaker 1: gotta stop this now because now it's affecting my life
Speaker 1: and my economy my economical situation, should I say, my finances.
Speaker 1: And when I stopped, I realized I didn't need anything anymore.
Speaker 1: So it weaned me off all that crap they were
Speaker 1: giving me at the v A. And now I realized that, Okay,
Speaker 1: although the marijuana helped, now it's starting, I'm starting to
Speaker 1: see a downside to it, and I don't need that anymore.
Speaker 1: So I stopped that. And it's like, I'm the hyper
Speaker 1: fucking guy you see here now, But I actually think
Speaker 1: twice before I get angry, because I realized I was
Speaker 1: able to stand aside for myself and say, these are
Speaker 1: things that affect you, you know what I mean, And
Speaker 1: I'm able to recognize them easily and say, all right,
Speaker 1: I could choose, you know, to act or not act
Speaker 1: and walk away and like, I don't know. I just
Speaker 1: I'm in a better place now. I don't need any
Speaker 1: of that ship. Plus I'm working out like a fucking
Speaker 1: machine now. So when I go home, dude, I hit
Speaker 1: the rack like I fucking eight thirty nine pm. Bro,
Speaker 1: I'm in the bed and I wake up at five
Speaker 1: thirty every fucking day and I love it. I'll get
Speaker 1: my coffee, I'll listen to my news. I love it.
Speaker 1: I of the life I live now without any of
Speaker 1: that crap. That's awesome. That's that's the way to be.
Speaker 1: So with that, I know we have the Odissean standing.
Speaker 1: Buy are supposed to go him like thirteen minutes ago,
Speaker 1: but uh I texted him. So let's get over to
Speaker 1: the Odissean, who's apparently going to drop some knowledge on
Speaker 1: some stuff going on in Asia that neither of us
Speaker 1: really know about. But that's what that's what that's what
Speaker 1: the soft rep writers do. Okay, they dropped knowledge, TiO,
Speaker 1: what is going on? It's Ian Scotto and Jason got up,
Speaker 1: what's up pimping what it is? T O, do you
Speaker 1: have the do you have the mask on? If you're
Speaker 1: calling us now? Because the MASc who's wearing the mask tonight?
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't want to. You know,
Speaker 1: no one wears the mask, only yours. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: keep the gimmick going. But anyway, man, how's how's everything
Speaker 1: going in a year? Knack of the Woods? Yeah, good,
Speaker 1: good man, good good falls here, it's my favorite seasons
Speaker 1: all well, haul of chill. So I guess the natural
Speaker 1: thing to start with. And by the way, for those
Speaker 1: who don't know, t O is now the managing editor
Speaker 1: of soft Wrap. Although you're still going to be writing
Speaker 1: articles because people have been asking. They're like, you know,
Speaker 1: I still want to see this guy's articles. Um. You
Speaker 1: were telling us about kidnappings happening in North Korea and
Speaker 1: I said to you, I was like, Jason and I
Speaker 1: are looking this up. There's not a lot out there.
Speaker 1: And you were like, no, this is not in the
Speaker 1: mainstream news. I'm gonna drop some knowledge on you guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because all I found. All I found was stuff from
Speaker 1: the seventies where kids from Japan were being abducted. Um,
Speaker 1: and I guess that. Yeah. So I mean I'm intrigued.
Speaker 1: And I love when you guys break news or even
Speaker 1: like highlight stuff that you know, not necessarily breaking highlight
Speaker 1: stuff that's been purposely kind of like overlooked or you know, downplayed.
Speaker 1: You know, I love yeah this so this this, So
Speaker 1: it is actually kind of weird. It's one of those
Speaker 1: deals that like, uh, in the Northeast Asia, it's kind
Speaker 1: of like the elephant in the room because everybody fucking
Speaker 1: knows North Korea just naske people South Korean's. Uh. I
Speaker 1: don't know of any Russians that have been snagged, and
Speaker 1: I don't know of any Chinese snag it's namely South
Speaker 1: Koreans and Japanese folk. And uh So it goes back,
Speaker 1: I mean, funk man, it goes back all the way
Speaker 1: to December of fifty three. So at the end of
Speaker 1: it wasn't the end of the ceasefire of the Korean War.
Speaker 1: Um the fuck? The United States government knew that there
Speaker 1: were like the nine hundred some odd uh POW's American POWs,
Speaker 1: a whole ship tone more of the rest of the
Speaker 1: UN forces, but nine US forces that were there. So
Speaker 1: that's kind of where the abductions and ships started. Also
Speaker 1: during the during the Korean War, they were like pens
Speaker 1: of thousands of of I mean they weren't South Koreans
Speaker 1: at the time, but South Koreans were abducted and say
Speaker 1: in North Korea. Um, and then after that, yeah, Jason,
Speaker 1: you're right. So so there was a height. There was
Speaker 1: a huge spike in abductions in Japan and all along
Speaker 1: the sea if Japan coast, like the west coast of Japan. Uh,
Speaker 1: there was a spike in the seventies in both Japan
Speaker 1: and South Korea of people disappearing. So officially Japan officially
Speaker 1: except that there are seventeen people that have been abducted.
Speaker 1: The youngest was a thirteen year old. Um and Uh.
Speaker 1: The South Korean government I think admits which was the
Speaker 1: dip ship move on their part, it meants to having
Speaker 1: taken fourteen people, which I mean obviously now leaves the
Speaker 1: fucking gate opened where they could have taken all the people.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you admit that you've taken one person,
Speaker 1: now you basically just opened yourself up to be blamed
Speaker 1: for all that ship. Um, the stuff is so bad
Speaker 1: and on the west coast of Japan that for for
Speaker 1: a long time it was like this boogeyman ship like
Speaker 1: don't stay after darker. The North Korean commandos are going
Speaker 1: to get you alien abduction, possible, possible, alien does whatever
Speaker 1: they could. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and and uh they are.
Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, the number one uh like uf A hot
Speaker 1: spot in Japan is the same fucking area where most
Speaker 1: of the people have been reportedly abducted by Koreans or whoever.
Speaker 1: So so one of the things about North Korea in
Speaker 1: Japan is that the fucking Japanese and the Americans know
Speaker 1: that North Koreans infiltrate Japan like on the fucking regular
Speaker 1: They know that people are tucking in and out kind
Speaker 1: of all the time. They found uh, they'sound many subs
Speaker 1: they found uh for the North Korean savise. Some people
Speaker 1: still use these little mini subs where they have little
Speaker 1: tracks on the bottom, like tank tracks, so they can
Speaker 1: they can get in far enough and instead of floating,
Speaker 1: they just they hit the turf, you know, the fucking
Speaker 1: bottom of the ocean and just roll up and uh.
Speaker 1: They found these tracks, um in a couple of different
Speaker 1: places off the west coast of Japan, So they know
Speaker 1: these cats are coming in and out. Um they're just
Speaker 1: jack sure they can do about it. And uh um,
Speaker 1: So you know, one of the going theories because some
Speaker 1: of these people have come back. Actually, like some of
Speaker 1: these some of these cats that were abducted by North
Speaker 1: Korea are now back, like they're back in fucking Japan.
Speaker 1: Um and uh you know, North Korea said ship like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: you know, we didn't give you all the people because
Speaker 1: because some of them died. Uh. And then Japan came back.
Speaker 1: I was like, cool, we could we have their remains?
Speaker 1: In North Korea's like, well we don't. We just burn them.
Speaker 1: We don't have the remains. And then they would come
Speaker 1: back and be like, oh yeah, I'm sorry, we we
Speaker 1: we did find some remains. Here's some remains. And then
Speaker 1: the Japanese do like testing DNA testing or whatever on
Speaker 1: the on the remains and they're like, yeah, this, these
Speaker 1: aren't those people, like you just gave us some fucking
Speaker 1: body parts and fucking Shenanigans like start to finish and
Speaker 1: uh um. So you know one of the fucked up
Speaker 1: things you know that they'll snag these that I think
Speaker 1: there's like, uh, of the seventeen, you know, it's mostly females.
Speaker 1: I want to say, it's like uh, you know, like
Speaker 1: nine chicks, eight dudes or something like that. It's mostly females,
Speaker 1: and they know that they were taking these chicks and
Speaker 1: uh using them as Japanese teachers. Um because like the
Speaker 1: ones that have been returned that they're like, yeah, we
Speaker 1: were just teaching Japanese and teaching customers and ship like that.
Speaker 1: So so when those fucking spies, when those infiltrators ingress
Speaker 1: Japan and now I mean the same ship we do, man,
Speaker 1: like you teach them customs and language and ship and
Speaker 1: uh so now they can they can more readily blend
Speaker 1: in um getting like two racists. The fucking Japanese can
Speaker 1: basically tell you if you're a fucking Korean, like if
Speaker 1: you're if you're cruising around a fucking streak, even if
Speaker 1: you're you're speaking perfect Japanese, the average Japanese person is
Speaker 1: going to look at a Korean and be like, that
Speaker 1: fucker is not Japanese. I don't know how they do it.
Speaker 1: It's the magic I haven't learned yet, but uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean but but so that's another thing is is that,
Speaker 1: uh you know, one of the one of the assertions,
Speaker 1: like some of these ladies are saying that they were
Speaker 1: they were kind of forced to uh to breed, like
Speaker 1: to give, you know, to give birth to a little
Speaker 1: half Japanese half Korean kids, and then those kids, I guess,
Speaker 1: are whisked off to some fucking spy village and raised
Speaker 1: as a Japanese person, the way we used to joke
Speaker 1: about the Russians did in the fucking eighties, like having
Speaker 1: these American villages in the middle of Siberia where you're
Speaker 1: like going to fucking sock hops and going to the
Speaker 1: drive in and ship like that. Um and uh. Also
Speaker 1: another weird twist of this is there was a dude,
Speaker 1: an American who I think he he popped up in
Speaker 1: the news probably in the last couple of years or something,
Speaker 1: I don't remember what, but he uh he was he
Speaker 1: defected um from uh. Well he he deserted thirty He
Speaker 1: was a he was a service member in South Korea
Speaker 1: and he was deployt of like Vietnam or was goetna
Speaker 1: deploy or didn't want to deploy or whatever the funk anyway,
Speaker 1: he h he uh. He deserted first of all, and
Speaker 1: then defected the fucking North Korea. And that dude actually
Speaker 1: lives in Japan now. He was returned to Japan um
Speaker 1: in like September of oh four. It was right after
Speaker 1: I got there because I got their summer of O
Speaker 1: four and uh he he came back and uh he
Speaker 1: had been married through a Japanese chick and he was
Speaker 1: teaching English for like thirty five years and uh uh
Speaker 1: and she was teaching Japanese. They hooked up. I think
Speaker 1: they got some kids, but they live right now. They
Speaker 1: live on this little island out in the Sea of Japan.
Speaker 1: It's like the fifth largest Japanese island, but it's super tiny.
Speaker 1: Um and uh so, like, yeah, dude was a defector.
Speaker 1: Um you know. I think he went through like a
Speaker 1: court martial proceeding all that ship as part of his
Speaker 1: being return of Japan and uh you know, like lost
Speaker 1: rank and whatever. And I mean it was like flap
Speaker 1: on the wrist. But we all know what the government
Speaker 1: does through deserters. Yeah, yeah, get a fucking honorable discharge
Speaker 1: and this um so you know, and and this whole so,
Speaker 1: this whole thing right so just uh you know, in
Speaker 1: the last like forty eight hours, there was a guy
Speaker 1: trying to defect from North Korea. Yeah, the article right
Speaker 1: on the DMZ got shot five times as he fled
Speaker 1: across the d M Z and for those who don't know,
Speaker 1: that's the demilitarized zone, which I actually know because of
Speaker 1: Jack Murphy going to the d m Z and and
Speaker 1: getting some pictures there in the caves which were pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Um but yeah, shot five times. But now he'll be
Speaker 1: able to be a South Korean resident, right because he
Speaker 1: was successful? Yeah yeah, yeah. I mean once you make
Speaker 1: it to the fucking end zone on that, like your
Speaker 1: your gold, you know they're going to give that guy
Speaker 1: everything he wants, man, because they're going to debrief that
Speaker 1: motherfucker for years. Well this leads to like a trend
Speaker 1: of of more North Korean soldiers doing the same. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: And and you know, so the way this is all
Speaker 1: connected because you've got that are defecting, but you've also
Speaker 1: had POW's escaped their prisons in North Korea and fucking
Speaker 1: escape all the way to South Korea, and so sometimes
Speaker 1: we think they're defectors, but they're actually fucking dudes like
Speaker 1: pleading to get home. And uh, there have been a
Speaker 1: ton of those cases, and I don't none of them
Speaker 1: have been American that I know of. I don't want
Speaker 1: to say that there haven't been, but a um so
Speaker 1: so anytime in my brain, anytime you've got anybody trying
Speaker 1: to get the funk out of North Korea, my first
Speaker 1: thought is that they're they're not North Korean. They're they're
Speaker 1: getting the funk out of Dodge and trying to get
Speaker 1: back home. And that's always my first question is are
Speaker 1: they actually North Korean? Because because the situation with so
Speaker 1: many being abducted, you know, like chances are there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're trying to get the hell out. Yeah, and and
Speaker 1: so so even now in Japan you've got a lot
Speaker 1: of like missing people, and it gets into this larger
Speaker 1: thing that that that you know, I've wrapped about before
Speaker 1: in terms of like Japan fudges its fucking numbers on everything,
Speaker 1: Like they sludge the murder rate, they sludge the rape rate,
Speaker 1: they sludge the the any negative metric that's going to
Speaker 1: like adversely affect people's Japan, people's opinion of Japan. Uh,
Speaker 1: that ship gets fudged to the outside world. So suicide rate, right,
Speaker 1: you see, Yeah, it's the fucking massive suicide Either that
Speaker 1: or there's just a lot of people getting murdered and
Speaker 1: hung up in that forest. Man. But yeah, there's a huge, huge,
Speaker 1: well but I mean you know that that gets into
Speaker 1: the cultural issue of like here in the West, Um,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to say suicide is not
Speaker 1: an option. I mean, obviously it's an option. We all
Speaker 1: fucking no guys that're fucking awes themselves. But uh, um,
Speaker 1: we we really play into like the socio religious and
Speaker 1: spiritual guilt shit of like if you offer yourself, you're
Speaker 1: not going anywhere good. Um, you know. So, so we
Speaker 1: try to we try to stem that tide culturally or
Speaker 1: socially or whatever by by establishing a religious level of
Speaker 1: don't fucking do it on top of all that. Well,
Speaker 1: in the Far East, man, that's I mean, one of
Speaker 1: the most same as parts of human fucking culture is
Speaker 1: you know, the samurai committing seppuku where they cut their
Speaker 1: fucking belly open and like hang out and leave the
Speaker 1: funk out and die. Um. And so suicide is always
Speaker 1: an option in the Far East, especially when you're dealing
Speaker 1: with ship like shame or failure, even if it's not
Speaker 1: your failure or your shame. Would you say, would you
Speaker 1: say it's almost expected of one? Uh? I would say,
Speaker 1: if you like super duper funk up, let's say, and
Speaker 1: I mean like I'm not ain't calling anybody out, but
Speaker 1: like let's say the CEO of fucking Nintendo and uh
Speaker 1: and like your numbers are are are shit. They don't
Speaker 1: expect you to go kill yourself, but they certainly expect
Speaker 1: you to walk the funk off, you know, like essentially
Speaker 1: professionally kill yourself. Now, in that case, specifically, that dude
Speaker 1: had like a opted to have like a nine percent
Speaker 1: reduction in sad allery for a couple of years to
Speaker 1: offset the loss of I can't remember what it was
Speaker 1: like the WE or the we you or as ship,
Speaker 1: but but there was like the company almost went fucking
Speaker 1: bankrupt and due to like dude six to his own
Speaker 1: fucking salary, uh, like self who fucking committed financial suicide
Speaker 1: with his own salary to plug that back into the
Speaker 1: system to fix something that he would ultimately responsible for
Speaker 1: being the fucking CEO of the company. Now, I'm sure
Speaker 1: that wasn't his fucking choice to do whatever it was
Speaker 1: that numbers, but yeah, and so so yeah, man, I
Speaker 1: would say that that even if it's not exactly like
Speaker 1: fucking suicide suicide, I think that self sacrifice is still
Speaker 1: self sacrifice for the greater good or the community. Good
Speaker 1: is still I don't want to say expected, but maybe
Speaker 1: a hoped. You can I ask you something, Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: you've seen you've seen strike Back, right, that show? The
Speaker 1: TV show. I don't know if you watch TV too much,
Speaker 1: you seem like you read anyway. So in the show,
Speaker 1: let me just give you the one of the situations
Speaker 1: they were dealing with, which, by the way, if you've
Speaker 1: never seen strike Back, it is that show. Okay that
Speaker 1: you're welcome for that. By the way, the next two
Speaker 1: weeks will never be the same. Um you're binge watch.
Speaker 1: So so, North Korea actually had infiltrators in several countries
Speaker 1: and they had this there was this UH situation where
Speaker 1: they were waiting for this activational most for them to
Speaker 1: execute UH nuclear terrorists act. But these people have gained
Speaker 1: um positions of authority and of stature in these other
Speaker 1: countries and they had you know, husband's wives, kids, all that,
Speaker 1: like they were completely and submerged inside. Yeah, they were
Speaker 1: sleepers and they were activated and they try to attempt
Speaker 1: a nuclear nuclear a terrorist terrorists like, um, you know
Speaker 1: what do you call it? Just activity event? And you
Speaker 1: know that is that kind of what you think is
Speaker 1: going on? With all the abductees obviously because they're teaching,
Speaker 1: you know. And I seen one abductee, well not abductee,
Speaker 1: she was a defector. And um she was giving accounts
Speaker 1: as to having Japanese lessons from someone that was abducted.
Speaker 1: And the person that she described. I remember her best
Speaker 1: friend in Japan recognized her name and who she was describing,
Speaker 1: and she and you know, she was told that that
Speaker 1: individual died, you know. And and she once she heard
Speaker 1: of the account, she heard of the name, she heard
Speaker 1: of her mannerism, she said, oh my god, my best
Speaker 1: friend is still alive after so many years, because I
Speaker 1: think she was abducted over you know, at that point
Speaker 1: twenty something years prior. So anyway, she was talking about
Speaker 1: that woman being her Japanese teacher, just like you said.
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking the only thing I'm thinking is they've
Speaker 1: got sleepers everywhere. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, dude.
Speaker 1: So so, I I harp on this all the fun times,
Speaker 1: you know. Actually, I think I've mentioned this on every
Speaker 1: fucking radio show I've ever been on about the about
Speaker 1: like somebody infiltrating the continental United States with a fucking
Speaker 1: dirty bomb and a backpack. Um, so so North Korean's don't.
Speaker 1: They're broke as fuck. But basically and so, so we
Speaker 1: talked about all this fucking whiz bang high tech ship
Speaker 1: that we think they're getting into, because that's that's sexy.
Speaker 1: Nobody gives a funk about a loan dude with like
Speaker 1: a krusty fucking alice pack with like some you know,
Speaker 1: kitchen made dirty nuke in it. That's not sexy, right. So,
Speaker 1: so when you're talking about bang for your buck, for
Speaker 1: lack of better pun, when you're talking about bang for
Speaker 1: your buck, uh, they're not gonna throw billions and billions
Speaker 1: of fucking dollars into a delivery system. Um. And you know,
Speaker 1: people are like, well, they just haven't come up with
Speaker 1: the right rocket yet. Well, it's not just fucking rock man.
Speaker 1: They got to get the materials, they got to get
Speaker 1: the people. They gotta get what is it, Winston Z
Speaker 1: Moore and fucking Ghostbusters. You've got the tools, you've got
Speaker 1: the talent, and they don't have either of those fucking things.
Speaker 1: So they are so fucking far upriver from having an
Speaker 1: actual fucking delivery, like a successful launch system. They may
Speaker 1: be able to launch the ship into the sky, but
Speaker 1: the materials they have are gonna get and fucking tee
Speaker 1: that that thing does not get where it's supposed to go.
Speaker 1: That's one of the reasons why you should'll fall into
Speaker 1: the ocean on either side of Japan, and North Koreans
Speaker 1: will be like, yep, it was a successful launch. So
Speaker 1: they don't have they don't have satellites up. They don't right,
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean I think they got you know,
Speaker 1: actually that's a good question. I don't think they do.
Speaker 1: And I think that's and and this is what and
Speaker 1: this is what our beef is were Russia and China
Speaker 1: because they're allowing them to use that technology for GPS
Speaker 1: and all this stuff. And that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 1: We're getting at them saying, hey, cut the ship out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you know, and even if they do, even
Speaker 1: if North Korea has a satellite, they didn't build it.
Speaker 1: It was it was a fucking proprietary and China was like, hey, brouh,
Speaker 1: we'll let you put a satellite up. We'll give you
Speaker 1: all the ship, and we'll give you the information, and
Speaker 1: we'll put your flag on it, just so you guys
Speaker 1: can check a fucking you know thing off your bucket.
Speaker 1: List put a satelline space congratulations. Um, but in terms
Speaker 1: of what those dudes having an organic, space focused or
Speaker 1: space based capability, it's it's it's not they don't have one.
Speaker 1: I only bring that up because of the guidance systems
Speaker 1: required on these nukes, these intercontinental ballistic missiles, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's where I see where you're saying, they're almost
Speaker 1: our cake. You know that they can't have that. That
Speaker 1: technology is something that they don't have their hands on yet. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean, man, it's it's really you know, when
Speaker 1: you when you get into shop like non proliferation and
Speaker 1: ship of nuclear materials. So it's materials, but but for
Speaker 1: a launch system, it isn't just the materials you're looking for.
Speaker 1: Isn't aren't just nuclear fucking things right that your Gaiger
Speaker 1: counter is going to go nuts on. It's like the
Speaker 1: fucking tube for the rocket has to be made of
Speaker 1: certain ship. You know, there's there's metallurgy and like actual
Speaker 1: fucking science that these dudes do not have access to
Speaker 1: at this point in time. So that's another reason, like
Speaker 1: they'll they'll you know, it isn't like the Koleans are
Speaker 1: hanging out in Japan like a snagging scientist. You can
Speaker 1: bet your ask that if they have a chance to
Speaker 1: snag a scientist, they damn sure will. Um it's like
Speaker 1: fucking Iron Man, right but uh um so, but you know,
Speaker 1: showing the way back to the bank for the book.
Speaker 1: So those guys don't have all this whiz bang shipped man,
Speaker 1: they don't have like the fucking they don't really have
Speaker 1: a hot in essay that they can go to and
Speaker 1: be like, give us all the fucking signals on planet Earth.
Speaker 1: You know, they've got some capable cy cyber dudes which
Speaker 1: we know are directly connected to and related to Russians
Speaker 1: and Shinese cyber dudes. Book, in terms of getting bang
Speaker 1: for your book, the absolute best fucking option for anybody
Speaker 1: anywhere that is trying to get bargain based in the
Speaker 1: prices for absolute return is using using stay behind forces,
Speaker 1: using fasil traders. I mean it's it's it's just it's
Speaker 1: slightly more complicated guerrilla warfare. Um and and so how
Speaker 1: fucking yeah, well this gets back into the Daphne's a ductees, right,
Speaker 1: So sort of the older people they didn't just kidnap
Speaker 1: younger people. Uh, they would kidnap old people too, off
Speaker 1: those motherfucker's and then assume their identity. And this is
Speaker 1: where dude, this is where I come in, because no
Speaker 1: one is connecting these dots. I mean, it's kind of
Speaker 1: fucked up. Makes me feel like I'm in the matrix
Speaker 1: sometimes because so uh so, here's an example, right, you
Speaker 1: got these old people, and the North brains will come
Speaker 1: in and kidnap an old lady killer and then insert
Speaker 1: their own person with that identity. The Jampanies don't have
Speaker 1: a social Security number, which goes into an article I
Speaker 1: wrote about people disappearing in Japan because people are opted out, disappear.
Speaker 1: All this bullshit is connected. Um and I'm sorry if
Speaker 1: I talk fast where my brain gets running like my mouth,
Speaker 1: don't slow down. I haven't drink enough today. Um so.
Speaker 1: So a few years back, Japan hand got some fucking
Speaker 1: like international award. I want to say. It was like
Speaker 1: UNESCO or the UN or somebody was like, holy fucking ship,
Speaker 1: Japan has more more living like h centennions or whatever,
Speaker 1: like people that are over a hundred uh than any
Speaker 1: country on the planet. They must be very healthy, holy
Speaker 1: fucking ship. And so SPAN has this list of like
Speaker 1: thousands of people that are over a hundred and uh.
Speaker 1: So the emperor like writes these letters to all these
Speaker 1: dudes like, hey, congratulations for you know, bringing pride to
Speaker 1: n and we're healthy and and see fucking rice and
Speaker 1: rough fish and sake is the way to go. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: right up, so right on. So so they so he
Speaker 1: plugs up all these letters. They established this, uh, the
Speaker 1: small agency in the government to to put these awards
Speaker 1: out to everybody, and and all that ship. The first
Speaker 1: people on this list, we're dead. Their deaths had just
Speaker 1: never been reported. In some cases, the body was still
Speaker 1: in the fucking house mollified because nobody went and think
Speaker 1: somebody was cashing there fucking checks. Nobody went by. Yeah,
Speaker 1: nobody went and see. So that's one of those things
Speaker 1: back to Japan, like fudging its numbers. That ship never
Speaker 1: made it out because first of all, there's only about
Speaker 1: nine of us out there that are covering ship going
Speaker 1: on in Japan. A and B of those nine, most
Speaker 1: of us don't have the access of placement that I
Speaker 1: have and see or three I don't remember from letter
Speaker 1: in her numbering. Uh, most of the people that cover
Speaker 1: Japan like I do A fucking fan boys and fan girls,
Speaker 1: and I would call somebody out directly, but I'm not
Speaker 1: um and and so they are going to tow this
Speaker 1: weird party line and fluff up japan and and make
Speaker 1: themselves cooler in the eyes of the Japanese. I ain't
Speaker 1: gotta worry about none of that ship because none of
Speaker 1: those motherfucker's know who I am. Um, so I have
Speaker 1: to worry about that. But but I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: have to fudge those numbers. And I don't have to uh,
Speaker 1: I don't have to chicaine any of the information I
Speaker 1: get because I don't have a party line. Like my
Speaker 1: party line is the facts, man, just the facts. So
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not go ahead, no, no, go ahead,
Speaker 1: I'm not getting you stay stay stay low, proro. We
Speaker 1: need that. They don't want to stay low pro We
Speaker 1: need that man. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah for sure. But
Speaker 1: I'm a question, So I'm sorry, go ahead, no, no, okay.
Speaker 1: So we're jumping in back and forth like double Dutch.
Speaker 1: It's like verbal double dutch. Know what reminds you of
Speaker 1: I wonder if I could pull it up. But anyway,
Speaker 1: you ever see um cork your moano? Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: remember he gets high on cocaine. He's like, you got
Speaker 1: a question? You got you do you know? You do
Speaker 1: you know? Do you remember that? He's like, no, No,
Speaker 1: it's cool. It's cool busting lines out here. No. Um,
Speaker 1: So back to North Korea, and you know this is
Speaker 1: I'm I'm interested to see what you think because you're
Speaker 1: living it, You're out there, you're seeing it, and you
Speaker 1: kind of have more of a profound, uh perspective on
Speaker 1: it than what I get, because what I get is
Speaker 1: just media fed, you know what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 1: think even for it, if they even cover, my question
Speaker 1: to you is do something about them or let them
Speaker 1: hang themselves? So wait, are we talking about the uh
Speaker 1: North Koreans? That the whole situations? And yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: you know, I continue to kind of say that, like, uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I think North Korea right now is a
Speaker 1: current boogeyman. It's a boogie man we can talk about.
Speaker 1: It's a boogyman we can engage because it's not abstract.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to engage the cyber threat because then we
Speaker 1: got to get into about ten years of trying to
Speaker 1: explain to mouth breathers that are watching the news, not
Speaker 1: that all mouth breeders watched the news, or just because
Speaker 1: you watch the news of your mouth breeder, but you
Speaker 1: have to get into explain in ten years of cyber
Speaker 1: warfare to people who are just going to relate it
Speaker 1: to a fucking matrix movie anyway. Um so, so, I
Speaker 1: I think that we should always continue to engage North
Speaker 1: Korea's diplomatically. Um but but we also need to have
Speaker 1: a hard line. I personally believe that that the maybe
Speaker 1: not the President of the United States, but but the
Speaker 1: Sex Area of Defense, the Department of Defense, in the
Speaker 1: intelligence community all fucking realize without fail that the moment
Speaker 1: the fucking balloon goes up in either of the Korea's,
Speaker 1: that fucking peninsula is a glass parking lot, like all
Speaker 1: the missiles, all the ARTTI. Yeah, yeah, every yeah, everybody,
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna fucking die or wish they were fucking dead,
Speaker 1: or be trying to get off the island. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's no And I said it, you know, not to
Speaker 1: like bust out of fucking ke GPS. I said it
Speaker 1: a while back, right after fucking uh SEC death. Mattis
Speaker 1: took office. His first fucking trip, first trip South Korea,
Speaker 1: and Japan. The dude spent a number of hours in
Speaker 1: South Korea because he knows. I mean, he's just like, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: keep doing what you're doing, like thumbs up, high five,
Speaker 1: spelly bumps, Uh, good luck. Then the then the motherfucker
Speaker 1: spent like a week in Japan, not only just talking
Speaker 1: to his under part of the Minister of Defense, but
Speaker 1: also talking to the fucking Prime Minister, also going out
Speaker 1: and talking fucking generals, also talking to his U S
Speaker 1: commanders that were in fucking okayaw and on the mainland,
Speaker 1: trying to get a fucking feel for what the actual
Speaker 1: fucking situation was in country, because guess what, when the
Speaker 1: kettle goes off, the Korean twins are fucking done, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be damage control and civil affairs after that. You think. So,
Speaker 1: you think, um that that that also was a part
Speaker 1: of Trump's campaign promise or should I say intention is
Speaker 1: voiced intentions to armed Japan with nuclear weapons kind of.
Speaker 1: But so I would have if you would have asked
Speaker 1: me that question three weeks ago, I would have said yes. Now,
Speaker 1: you know, like last week, a few days ago, Trump
Speaker 1: is in Japan, or was in Japan, and he was
Speaker 1: asking the Prime minister why Japan and responding to these
Speaker 1: UH missiles wing over the island, and the Prime Minister
Speaker 1: was like, well, you guys, you guys won't let us
Speaker 1: have that ship, and and Trump was like, bullshit, you
Speaker 1: guys are buying our stuff now. So I don't think
Speaker 1: Trump knew that Japan couldn't do any of that ship
Speaker 1: until like recently, I mean, and kind of honestly, why
Speaker 1: would he. I mean, if he's not interested as a businessman,
Speaker 1: I would think he would have a little higher profile
Speaker 1: look at the country book, um, but I don't think
Speaker 1: that he. I don't think Trump had any fucking idea personally,
Speaker 1: probably still doesn't have any real fucking idea personally about
Speaker 1: what the status and disposition of Japan as a political
Speaker 1: entity globally and regionally UH is. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if he knows how they apply to us foreign policy.
Speaker 1: The only thing he knows is that like, UH, they're
Speaker 1: kind of our best friends in the region. The only
Speaker 1: reason we have anybody in South Korea is because uh,
Speaker 1: North Korea is there, you know, like we I said
Speaker 1: this recently. I can't remember where it was. It might
Speaker 1: have been one of my Q and A's the only
Speaker 1: reason we have motherfucker's in South I don't know. It
Speaker 1: was in the radio show when I was in the studio.
Speaker 1: The only reason we have people in South Korea because
Speaker 1: North Korea is there. The people we have in Japan
Speaker 1: are there because of other reasons, not not just because
Speaker 1: North Korea or China or Russia are there. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: we have we have Missawa Air Base way up in
Speaker 1: the north of the main island. We've got a couple
Speaker 1: of other smaller UH Navy bases and Marine Corps camps UH,
Speaker 1: and then we've got a one army post on the
Speaker 1: mainland and then a fucking ship done stuff in Okinawa
Speaker 1: and Guam, um and and goals all exist for other reasons.
Speaker 1: They would be there whether North Korea was there or not.
Speaker 1: The only fucking reason we have anybody in South Two
Speaker 1: reasons we have people in South Korea. A because generals
Speaker 1: need a fucking fake gass command, a combat command um
Speaker 1: that they can check the fucking box so they can
Speaker 1: make higher general or whatever it is. That's the only
Speaker 1: reason we gotta fucking command there, ay and be the
Speaker 1: only reason their combat deployed there. And a fucking like
Speaker 1: not a company tour setting, not a company tour. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know, you guys know, but do the listeners. Not
Speaker 1: a company means if I get papers to go to
Speaker 1: Japan at the time, my family cannot go with me
Speaker 1: because I'm essentially deploying to a wartime footing although it's
Speaker 1: not wartime, uh, you know, just because there's a ceasefire
Speaker 1: where where it's it's not really a combat deployment, but
Speaker 1: it's still kind of treated like that. So yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the only reading UTPs. That's what we call UTPs. We
Speaker 1: go to Japan, and then on top of that, we
Speaker 1: also have exercises that are reasons why we get brought
Speaker 1: to Korea and that that's why I went to South
Speaker 1: Korea as well, because you know, during our Japanese are
Speaker 1: japan uh deployment. So you know, we went up to
Speaker 1: South Korea and we got you know, we got up
Speaker 1: to go to Soul Poul Hang, A couple of guys
Speaker 1: got to go up to the thirty eighth parallel at
Speaker 1: d MZ. But we do these activities there and it's
Speaker 1: all a part of show of force. That's all it
Speaker 1: really is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And you know
Speaker 1: we just uh. We you know, we published an article
Speaker 1: about the U. S. Navy having a three carrier three
Speaker 1: carrier groups show of force in the region, and as
Speaker 1: funny as we were, we were joking about it in
Speaker 1: the fucking rider's room. Three carriers. There No, there are
Speaker 1: countries on the planet, like un Security Council members that
Speaker 1: have one fucking carrier for the entire fucking country. We
Speaker 1: had three and one show of force, and we still
Speaker 1: have other ones elsewhere on the fucking planet, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: there's we posted a picture of it on in one
Speaker 1: of the articles. I think Alex wrote the article, and
Speaker 1: it was three fucking carrier groups. That's like twenty five
Speaker 1: thousand piste off fucking sailors and marines on fucking boats
Speaker 1: in one picture. And and I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: if a lot of people in the world could really
Speaker 1: appreciate the firepower in one fucking picture, not to mention
Speaker 1: essentially uh geography. Notwithstanding, you can access the vast majority
Speaker 1: of the important ship on the Korean Peninsula from a
Speaker 1: boat sitting off the coast, like I mean, that's that's
Speaker 1: part of the that's the that's the n G and
Speaker 1: fucking Anglico naval gunfire. So when you're dealing with carrier
Speaker 1: groups and battle groups sitting off of a coast, you
Speaker 1: can access really, really fucking far inland on all that
Speaker 1: ship and uh make you look at a fucking population
Speaker 1: density map of northeast Asia, about of the population is
Speaker 1: on the coast. You know there are cities inland, but
Speaker 1: not you know, not that much one man. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think I think Japan is like less than two
Speaker 1: hundred miles from from the widest point of the main
Speaker 1: island horns shoe from one coast to the other, it's
Speaker 1: less than a miles. And if I'm not entirely mistaken,
Speaker 1: you've got naval gunfire that's punching like triple digit distances
Speaker 1: when it fires. And that could be on on that
Speaker 1: but I'm not a navy guy, so somebody can correct me.
Speaker 1: But um so, so when you when you get into
Speaker 1: three motherfucking terriers being in in that region, that's a
Speaker 1: show of force. But yeah, man, you're right, all these exercises,
Speaker 1: all of these like full Eagle and all these fucking
Speaker 1: exercises that we do every fucking year all over the place,
Speaker 1: all that shi it is is I mean, I think
Speaker 1: we stopped with the building cohesion bullshit a long time ago.
Speaker 1: It's just a show of force and a chance for
Speaker 1: some fucking you know, oh six or seven o eight
Speaker 1: to be like see what I did, so my pr
Speaker 1: promote me. Um yeah, dude, yeah, t O. The last
Speaker 1: thing I want to get to before you wrap things
Speaker 1: up that I just thought it was funny. I remember
Speaker 1: when you stayed over my house when you were around here,
Speaker 1: we got in a whole martial arts conversation being you know,
Speaker 1: in Japan and everything. So Jason just recently started doing
Speaker 1: Brazilian jiu jitsu, and uh, I remember you having a
Speaker 1: whole conversation with me about like how you're very favorable
Speaker 1: tours traditional Japanese jiu jitsu, and I know, I just
Speaker 1: wanted to hear your take on the whole thing, and
Speaker 1: and also for the audience, like why you know, Brazilian
Speaker 1: jiu jitsu has become like a very just big thing
Speaker 1: here in America. You're seeing less like Japanese jiu jitsu. Um,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I just want to hear your take on
Speaker 1: the whole thing because you kind of, you know, told
Speaker 1: me a whole bunch when you were hanging with me. Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 1: So first of all, Jason, I think it's awesome that
Speaker 1: you're doing any of that. Ship. I think I think
Speaker 1: any martial arts, basically, any martial arts is better than
Speaker 1: no martial arts. And b J J is uh is
Speaker 1: is legit um. And if I was gonna, if I
Speaker 1: was gonna recommend to anybody, like if you just want
Speaker 1: to get a crash course in how to not get
Speaker 1: your ass kicked real bad, would be on that list,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, that's what I was
Speaker 1: telling you to do a lot of dynamics. I considered
Speaker 1: myself a scrapper and you know, I've done a few
Speaker 1: things in the military, which is you know, be honest,
Speaker 1: anyone's been a military you know, combat as a pretty
Speaker 1: freaking weak you know. Um, But when Nick nickmap is
Speaker 1: a little bit because I give you that, because we
Speaker 1: take a little bit from a lot of different disciplines
Speaker 1: and we put them together, like they actually took the
Speaker 1: MICMAC program serious as opposed to what we had prior,
Speaker 1: which was line training. Um. Now, mcmapp, you know, I
Speaker 1: was there from the induction of it to the to
Speaker 1: where it's at today basically, and you get to see
Speaker 1: the different the evolution of it. So, you know, kudos
Speaker 1: to those guys over there. They really embraced a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of different types of martial arts. But
Speaker 1: Brazilian jiu Jitsu, Holy crap. I gotta tell you, I've
Speaker 1: never had my ass kicked so many times in one week.
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about white belts. You know, these guys,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at them like, uh, this guy's on my level.
Speaker 1: And then next year, know, after we've done rolling for
Speaker 1: those five minutes, I look at him like, who the
Speaker 1: funk are you? Bro? Like what the hell? And it's like,
Speaker 1: the guy's a white belt, but he's been doing b
Speaker 1: j J for over a year. There's no getting promoted
Speaker 1: in b j J. You have to literally kill someone
Speaker 1: to get promoted in that thing. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: So so I actually wrote an article. Two articles was
Speaker 1: back to back. It was one of them was about
Speaker 1: uh air Soft and then the other one was about
Speaker 1: b j J. So I guess Jason is probably like
Speaker 1: putting air Soft in the same categories. So what it is?
Speaker 1: I think, I guess I could say My problem isn't
Speaker 1: what b j J. My My problem is with this
Speaker 1: weird perception um that people have about b j J
Speaker 1: when compared to everything else. So I explained in the
Speaker 1: article that so b j J is a derivative of judo. Right.
Speaker 1: So in the UH in in the UH in the
Speaker 1: early nineteen hundreds, UH, these five Japanese dudes traveled around
Speaker 1: the world doing these judo exhibitions. They fight wrestlers, they
Speaker 1: fight like British baronacle boxers, they fight like uh, you know,
Speaker 1: they fight dudes from whatever tradition. You know. Little ship
Speaker 1: was going on. So so the dude that taught Helio
Speaker 1: Gracie was a guy that viewed that exhibition and was
Speaker 1: trained partially by one of those judo guys. And then
Speaker 1: he opened a school. There are two primary schools of
Speaker 1: Brazilian primary schools of Brazilian jiu jitsu. One of them
Speaker 1: is the Gracie, the other one is like the Manchado
Speaker 1: or whatever. Who was this other guy? So, so then
Speaker 1: Helio Gracie showed up and it was like he learned
Speaker 1: a little bit of that dude's a little bit of
Speaker 1: judo and uh and and and went out and started
Speaker 1: kind of trying to work through his own ship. So
Speaker 1: a couple of years later, uh, Helio Gracie was was
Speaker 1: preaching that that b j J was the ship. It's
Speaker 1: really funny because you know here this ship. When I
Speaker 1: get into conversations with b j J guys and I
Speaker 1: have a ton I'm not racist, I have a ton
Speaker 1: of b j J friends, but you know this, this
Speaker 1: isn't This isn't ship that comes up. And I actually
Speaker 1: want to say, the video of this maybe out there, um,
Speaker 1: because I remember seeing a video I think, or maybe
Speaker 1: it was pictures. But Kyo Gracie um was not only
Speaker 1: promoting b j J but ship talking Judo like we'll
Speaker 1: kick your fucking ass, send your best dudes down, fuck
Speaker 1: you guys, etcetera, etcetera. So the head master of the
Speaker 1: Koto con like Judo heads school in Tokyo got together
Speaker 1: with his main students and was like, yeah, um, like
Speaker 1: this guy who was sort of kind of a part
Speaker 1: time student of another part time student like twenty years ago,
Speaker 1: was talking ship. We need to go down and like
Speaker 1: just have a talk with him. So, uh, a couple
Speaker 1: of dudes went down and there was this he was
Speaker 1: actually an old guy at the time. Uh Yamasta I
Speaker 1: believe was his name, and uh so he goes to Brazil,
Speaker 1: and he's like, hey, bro, you can't. You can't talk
Speaker 1: like this, Like it's cool to promote your school, but
Speaker 1: like talking about other schools is not the way ship
Speaker 1: happens these days. Now, now, let me back up here
Speaker 1: with all of these judo guys at the time came
Speaker 1: from traditional Japanese jiu jitsu in a time where when
Speaker 1: you wanted to get your black belt, you actually went
Speaker 1: to another school and fought other people and very very
Speaker 1: regularly you fucking died, like you didn't come out of
Speaker 1: that match, like those were fights to the death. Nearly
Speaker 1: nineteen hundreds that that ship was was not happening anymore,
Speaker 1: But in the late eighteen hundreds, that fucking sure was.
Speaker 1: And even the traditional school that I'm a part of,
Speaker 1: like in order to get to a certain level, to
Speaker 1: get promoted past a certain level, you have to go
Speaker 1: to other schools and pick a fight. No, I mean
Speaker 1: not disrespect for not like you guys are a bunch
Speaker 1: of slack job faggots. Let's roll. Yeah, you gotta represent
Speaker 1: and and you will get your fucking ass handed to,
Speaker 1: And that's part of it, Like you're not gonna win
Speaker 1: them all to fucking dealer that's not the point. And
Speaker 1: so anyway, so these these dudes go to go back
Speaker 1: to Brazil and go to Helio Gracie and like, bro,
Speaker 1: like this isn't the way it happens. And Helo Gracie
Speaker 1: was like, my fuck you guys, like I mean, my ship,
Speaker 1: my schools, A ship will take you guys on these
Speaker 1: fucking dudes for old for like ninety minutes. Now, now, Jason,
Speaker 1: I know you feel me on this. When you roll
Speaker 1: for a minute against the motherfucker who knows who ship,
Speaker 1: it feels like ninety minutes. Dude, that is sixty fucking
Speaker 1: seconds in our dojo, Bro, we do we do twenty
Speaker 1: minutes and it's five minutes with four guys, and yeah, man,
Speaker 1: these are purple belts, like they don't give a fun
Speaker 1: what belt you are. They'll put a brown belt to
Speaker 1: choke your grass out and then they'll put a white
Speaker 1: belt to choke grass out for five minutes. And I've
Speaker 1: never been so exhausted in my first So you end
Speaker 1: up fighting all those dudes, and I love how that.
Speaker 1: I love I love that that that round robin ship,
Speaker 1: that Beau, that h j h activitly do judo jiujitsu
Speaker 1: and all that ship you go through that round robin
Speaker 1: thing where you're rolling with everybody that we do in
Speaker 1: the Marine Corps. Yeah, man, yeah, well because that also
Speaker 1: teaches you to fucking improvise, man, which which I don't
Speaker 1: give a funk who you are if you if you
Speaker 1: try to subscribe to a warrior fucking ethos anywhere, right,
Speaker 1: marine fucking aunty guy ninja, I don't give a ship
Speaker 1: who you are. Their provisation and being able to adapt mental, mental,
Speaker 1: and physical endurance is what you, Yeah, fundamental things. So
Speaker 1: so so they run you through tall guys, short guys,
Speaker 1: that guys, skinny guys, chicks, dudes. You do it all
Speaker 1: so you can understand how to you know, execute your
Speaker 1: ship in a variety of environments. And uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the more you do that stuff, the more you realize
Speaker 1: that it really it ends up bleeding its way into
Speaker 1: all aspects of your life. Mean, I got a thousand
Speaker 1: stories of having to use my martial arts, uh, like
Speaker 1: the strategic level of the martial art where I'm I'm
Speaker 1: now using my words and my wits to work myself
Speaker 1: around a situation before anybody flips the fucking table. And
Speaker 1: we go to guns um and and you know you
Speaker 1: you work the way through that. And I mean, like,
Speaker 1: I'm not old, but I ain't young. And when you
Speaker 1: beat my age, man, you really I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: somebody's about to flip this fucking table. I told a story.
Speaker 1: I wrote an article about getting hit in the fucking
Speaker 1: head man, and I had to I had to steal
Speaker 1: a bike and ride like twenty miles home. So you know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm in a situation where this goes back to
Speaker 1: one of the things that I don't like about about
Speaker 1: any modern jutsu at all, whether it's b j j
Speaker 1: or or judo or traditional ship. I'm in a room
Speaker 1: with guys and somebody's about to flip the table. I
Speaker 1: need to worry about two things. How I'm getting out
Speaker 1: of that situation, and how I'm getting the fuck home,
Speaker 1: because it's not like I drove my fucking car to
Speaker 1: these meet and greeds man, like it's sitting outside cars running. No.
Speaker 1: I mean like I I would take a train, a bus, walk,
Speaker 1: run whatever, and then to get home usually at like
Speaker 1: two in the morning at those taxis ain't no you know,
Speaker 1: trains or busses running. So I'm literally like pulsing my
Speaker 1: ass home. Well, I'm not gonna do that with a
Speaker 1: broken arm. I'm not gonna do that with a bottle
Speaker 1: stuck in my back. I'm not gonna do any of that.
Speaker 1: Ship And I've said before, like, you're not at home free, man.
Speaker 1: The the fucking op is not complete until you are
Speaker 1: home and no one's coming after you. It's you're thinking
Speaker 1: about the long game. You can't stay yeah, yeah, the
Speaker 1: long game. Yeah yeah, the objective. I mean, I remember
Speaker 1: talking to a mountain climber a long time ago. This
Speaker 1: is related. It's not a mounta climber a long time ago,
Speaker 1: and he's like, you have. The fucking problem with mountain
Speaker 1: climbers is that they get to the top of the
Speaker 1: mountain and they're like, sweet, we did it, and burs like,
Speaker 1: we got to get back to the house first. Man.
Speaker 1: You know, the vast majority of mountain climbing mountaineering accidents
Speaker 1: happened on the way fucking down the mountain because your
Speaker 1: brains already checked out. Well, not to the top, but
Speaker 1: the top ain't the end. The end is you being
Speaker 1: in the fucking bathtub soaking your toes, you know, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day. But but so you know,
Speaker 1: we're getting into the jiu jitsu stuff, and it's so fundamentally.
Speaker 1: One of the things that I personally promote about traditional
Speaker 1: Japanese jujutsu is that you're not rolling with anybody you
Speaker 1: looked up on the fucking ground like it's fucking game over.
Speaker 1: Um you know, I can know and all that Ship
Speaker 1: kind of played with that idea in the late eighteen
Speaker 1: hundreds where like you get ahold of somebody you're throwing
Speaker 1: through a fucking wall. But the dynamic of that doesn't
Speaker 1: really work either because you're not really throwing people around.
Speaker 1: You try and then your plan is fucked from the
Speaker 1: for the immediate uh contact. So so a lot of
Speaker 1: the things I give you an example, man, and and
Speaker 1: it's a very very unknown school. So in a town
Speaker 1: called Katazawa on the west side of Japan, there's a
Speaker 1: school called Nagao Ru n A g a O and
Speaker 1: rooming school. Right, So, so the dude, this was jiujitsu.
Speaker 1: That's all it was with jiujitsu. And uh, you know,
Speaker 1: they learned some weapons and ship, but the core, the
Speaker 1: core element was jiujutsu. Well, these guys were all like
Speaker 1: secret police spies. You weren't ninjas. But but, but you're
Speaker 1: not rolling with anybody. The moment something goes on in
Speaker 1: the contact is initiated, the first thing you do is
Speaker 1: you try to inflict as much damage, not just pain,
Speaker 1: not just unsqueezing your arm. I've been in your elbow,
Speaker 1: but like damage, like your neck is bleeding. You may
Speaker 1: want to get that looked at while I run the
Speaker 1: funk out of here. Or here's your eyeball. I thought
Speaker 1: you keep the other one as long as you let
Speaker 1: me walk out of here. That's some Yeah, but you know,
Speaker 1: and I see, I see where you're going with this,
Speaker 1: because um I trained in another form of combatis combatists
Speaker 1: called control force, and it's not really an aggressive combatants.
Speaker 1: It's more of it uses a lot of I key
Speaker 1: to where you're using the opponent's energy, you know, to
Speaker 1: redirect their energy and kind of take them down. But
Speaker 1: every time we get to the floor, the instructors would
Speaker 1: remind you, bro, you have a gun and you don't
Speaker 1: got time to roll around. So the moment you could
Speaker 1: break contact, break contact, put two in his fucking chest,
Speaker 1: and you know, assess the situation and keep it moving.
Speaker 1: And that's that's the reality of and I think that's
Speaker 1: where you're going at that and where jiu jitsu it's
Speaker 1: like we're on the floor and my goal is to
Speaker 1: you know, submit you or tap you out on the
Speaker 1: floor where I'm thinking you're talking about, my goal is
Speaker 1: to fucking hurt you, to give me enough time to
Speaker 1: get up and get a stick and beat the crap
Speaker 1: out of you. Yeah, it's I think it's different too,
Speaker 1: because what you're you know, what b j J is
Speaker 1: is also you know from what I know, and I'm
Speaker 1: someone who's hasn't done any of this, but it is
Speaker 1: also a form of exercise and all that, and it's
Speaker 1: it's all as opposed to um, you know, the stuff
Speaker 1: that Jim West teaches. But it's different between Jim's bar
Speaker 1: fighting stuff, is you know, because a lot of the
Speaker 1: stuff he teaches is great for women where he'll say,
Speaker 1: you know, put your finger in a guy's eye socket,
Speaker 1: you know, punch a guy in the balls. But that's
Speaker 1: you know, it's not an exercise. That's just getting out
Speaker 1: of a place. Take your finger at the top of
Speaker 1: their chest cavity and pull it down, you know, stuff
Speaker 1: like that. And these are things that these are things
Speaker 1: that are just to inflict the maximum amount of pain
Speaker 1: in that one instance to get to buy you that time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I don't think that would go over too well
Speaker 1: if you started like a gym West school of Martial
Speaker 1: Arts where anything goes, you know, in New York City,
Speaker 1: Like I don't think you have many people signing up
Speaker 1: and your eyeball. So that's actually where I was going with,
Speaker 1: like me being an older dude, like I really don't
Speaker 1: want to burn that many calories tonight, um, you know,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be sore for like the next three
Speaker 1: days if I gotta fight fight somebody. So so it's
Speaker 1: it's you get into this like operation with economy, um,
Speaker 1: where like if I have to fall down on the floor,
Speaker 1: like I'm on the floor, there's nothing I can do
Speaker 1: about it. I mean, I'm trying to think in my brain.
Speaker 1: I very rarely any of these engagements were discussing here,
Speaker 1: I very rarely have been very rarely hasn't been a
Speaker 1: one on one engagement. So like if I grabbed Kenji
Speaker 1: and try to get him in a fucking armbar on
Speaker 1: the floor, I've just been stabbed like nine times by
Speaker 1: his buddy or shot or stool crack on my head. Um,
Speaker 1: and I mentioned I mentioned in one of my articles
Speaker 1: about how my martial arts tactics my my my tactical
Speaker 1: disposition as a physical combat like a personal combat and
Speaker 1: really is absolutely no different than sapper tactics. Sappers are
Speaker 1: like a very engineed break down walls and ship like that.
Speaker 1: So so sapping uh is involved with three things. Um
Speaker 1: mobility are the friendly forces, mobility ability to move and
Speaker 1: ex operations in the environment. Counter mobility my ability to
Speaker 1: funk up the operational forces, ability to move freely in
Speaker 1: the environment. And survival ability um my ability to like
Speaker 1: build a fortification to keep people out and make sure
Speaker 1: all my duties are good. Right. So, so if I'm
Speaker 1: rolling with a motherfucker, if I'm about the role with
Speaker 1: a motherfucker, my first thought is mobility. I cannot be
Speaker 1: here right now like I need to be. Everything else
Speaker 1: has failed. I sucked everything else up. Uh and now
Speaker 1: I'm in this situation which is fucked up. Um, just
Speaker 1: don't hit my face, no, but uh uh so so
Speaker 1: my my immediate my immediate reality is my mobility and
Speaker 1: grab ahold of me. The first thing I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: is try to trap you before you get ahold of me.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna trap your ship, intercept your bits and pieces,
Speaker 1: and try to get you awesome where you can grab
Speaker 1: ahold of me in the offense, in that fucking billions
Speaker 1: of a second where I realized that can't happen. And
Speaker 1: now you have a hold of me, I'm getting ahold
Speaker 1: of you. I'm not getting ahold of your collar or
Speaker 1: your sleeve. I'm getting ahold of your fucking atoms apple
Speaker 1: or your nutsack, or your sucking under your arm, nice
Speaker 1: little sauce tissue up underneath their eyeball whatever ears are
Speaker 1: good too, because they come off um and and we're
Speaker 1: going with the yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, man, you know what,
Speaker 1: And I mean generally speaking, I'm not trying to murder
Speaker 1: anybody that goes back to the controlled force thing. Like
Speaker 1: I don't mind fucking a guy up, and I don't
Speaker 1: mind you having to go to the e er. But like,
Speaker 1: if there was a body in my neck of the
Speaker 1: wood and a Honkey is the one that did it,
Speaker 1: they're not gonna fudge those numbers. They're gonna find that
Speaker 1: ey did it. So if that goes back to that
Speaker 1: goes back to rule no One, right, the fucking is
Speaker 1: not done until you're back at your place and no
Speaker 1: one is coming after you. I mean, it's fine. There's
Speaker 1: tons of people in Japan that probably want to suck
Speaker 1: me up, but they don't know who I am or
Speaker 1: where to find me. So when I get back to
Speaker 1: the house, I know no one's gonna be there or
Speaker 1: come and get me later. Yeah, man, I mean that's why,
Speaker 1: that's why you're you're our expert in the Far East. Um,
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna wrap this. Yeah, we're gonna wrap
Speaker 1: this up. Man. But um, as always, you could find
Speaker 1: the additions articles on software, but anything else before Jason
Speaker 1: and I wrap up this show. I know Jason and
Speaker 1: I can talk for like years about this ship. So
Speaker 1: if you got anything else, Jason, just get me back
Speaker 1: on the show sometimes, no doubt. Oh yeah, no, man,
Speaker 1: I'm glad to be on always, and I promise everybody'll
Speaker 1: be writing more soon. Awesome man, all right, thanks bro? Yeah,
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