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Speaker 1: news and straight talk with the guys in the community,
Speaker 1: Army ranger and Green Beret Jack Murphy Lasagna. Don't get
Speaker 1: any on your Marine Scouts sniper Jason Delgado. It's just
Speaker 1: something we believe it. I associate that with taste. But
Speaker 1: I like freaking chocolate chip may Why is it flavor boring?
Speaker 1: The whole Lively board and now here's your co host
Speaker 1: and producer of this operation, Ian Scott l I've been
Speaker 1: dropping on the dollar tips at the waffle house, getting
Speaker 1: my mama big a double wide. Hell, I quit my job,
Speaker 1: flip off my boss by the whole by drinks all day.
Speaker 1: I'd be that country bunking. Ain't need something rocking camel leaving,
Speaker 1: not the city slicking mother freakin styro of the show.
Speaker 1: I won't ride lay backing down, very swimming and wimen
Speaker 1: to the bone. I'm talking riding on the sco I'm
Speaker 1: just ball songs training here here. I always love you.
Speaker 1: Why I always love their headsets because they make me
Speaker 1: feel a lot more important than I am. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: a very important guy. Dude, if you're not important, I
Speaker 1: don't know who the hell is bro. I would agree
Speaker 1: on that. So softwarep dot com on Time on Target,
Speaker 1: Jason Delgado in studio with me. I'm the Ian Scotto
Speaker 1: and of course Seal Team six. Robert O'Neill, author of
Speaker 1: The Operator. Thank you for having me back and I
Speaker 1: appreciate that coming absolutely great to beat. Hey, don't worry
Speaker 1: about me. You know what I say. I'm just facilitating
Speaker 1: over here. You, however, you're in music videos, motherfu. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we just we just made one Tim Montan and the
Speaker 1: Shred that wasn't driving around in that fat We had
Speaker 1: a buddy down there. We didn't really have a schedule. Um,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna make a video. We had a friend
Speaker 1: lent us the car front, other friend lend us the
Speaker 1: that that mansion and the yacht. Wait a minute, so
Speaker 1: you didn't rent none of this? This was like, oh,
Speaker 1: these are to be honest. The guy that had the
Speaker 1: uh that mansion mansion, his name is Sean. He's a
Speaker 1: former U s F guy and now he's obviously some
Speaker 1: big contracts and Sean, if you're out there, you need
Speaker 1: to come on the show. And he he's a good dude,
Speaker 1: and he let us use that in his yacht and
Speaker 1: and uh, he's got a lot of stuff going over
Speaker 1: the street by Tommy from Travis Perstona's he was the
Speaker 1: bad guy in the black suit, and we um, we
Speaker 1: didn't have a plan for the thing. We knew would
Speaker 1: steal David's rolls Royce and like, what are the first thing?
Speaker 1: We'll go to a gun range. They'll think it's for
Speaker 1: some reason, they think there's a valet at a gun range.
Speaker 1: And the first thing Tim Montana, who is a redneck,
Speaker 1: does when you obviously we can steal rolls, roy should
Speaker 1: go right to Checker Burger gets some burgers which be
Speaker 1: paid for those, and then you know, we found some
Speaker 1: we're trying to wipe our faces off to some cash
Speaker 1: in the thing, and we found an invitation to a party,
Speaker 1: and there was all kinds of stuff. It was fun
Speaker 1: I mean it was funny though because my buddy Tim Montana,
Speaker 1: who wrote the song, he said, I want you to
Speaker 1: come down and get a cameo in my video. I
Speaker 1: didn't know it was gonna starting the whole fucking thing.
Speaker 1: And then like we we shot for seventy two hours
Speaker 1: to get three minutes. That's seventy two hours. That's not bad.
Speaker 1: That seemed like a pretty badass week That was a
Speaker 1: cool weekend. There was a lot of fun, a lot
Speaker 1: of great people. Uh, Tim's doing well. Um was that Martine?
Speaker 1: You could ask for the pool water? You were? It
Speaker 1: wasn't on the wind going on the way down. I
Speaker 1: finished it and I figured I could fill it up
Speaker 1: and look like a martini. I was hoping. I was like,
Speaker 1: we were whatever. It's not the worst thing I've been
Speaker 1: to Afghanistan before. So we um and then my buddy
Speaker 1: Kyle was the guy tackled into the pool and that
Speaker 1: was a fifteen and twenty foot fall. So I said,
Speaker 1: get the drones ready and the cameramen ready because we're
Speaker 1: doing this once because I want to turn and take
Speaker 1: the brunt. It's gonna suck, but I'm not doing this twice.
Speaker 1: And so we did and yeah, it was fun. So
Speaker 1: it's uh, where can people check out this music of
Speaker 1: the link to um, let's see, I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: of where we got it. It is on this YouTube.
Speaker 1: Rich Tim Montana dot com will probably have it. YouTube
Speaker 1: actually got pissed and suspended because we were shooting air fifteen.
Speaker 1: They said it was it was frightening or shocking that
Speaker 1: we for two seconds. It is. It has been a
Speaker 1: war on manhood on social media for the last couple
Speaker 1: of months. Facebook has been taking down advertisements from off Red,
Speaker 1: from guys like from guys like um um O'Malley with
Speaker 1: soft Rep TV. He's coming on soon. Um. They've been,
Speaker 1: you know, messing with them like it literally this is
Speaker 1: just stuff that displays manhood of guns or they're basically
Speaker 1: discouraging things from being seen that are you know that
Speaker 1: that are displaying if I mean, if we're at a
Speaker 1: point where you're shooting a semi automatic rifle with eye protection,
Speaker 1: ear protection and maybe seals safe two r s O s. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we're all down range and that's not good enough
Speaker 1: for you. Ship. Tim Montana's from Montanna's probably shot more
Speaker 1: than I have, Like we're just shooting a few rounds
Speaker 1: down range. That how's it shocking? But Tim Montana dot
Speaker 1: com something like that, just you can find it. But
Speaker 1: it's it's an awesome video. You could probably have music
Speaker 1: like people doing Purcoset Molly. Maybe we could play the
Speaker 1: song on the intro. Well, yeah, a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: we just now you can get Now, you can get
Speaker 1: a song on iTunes for sure. Video YouTube did have
Speaker 1: it had a million views or whatever something like that
Speaker 1: could be sure. I mean if you like guns and rolls,
Speaker 1: Royces and and limos and helicopters and pusseason, I mean
Speaker 1: he likes snatch. Yeah, he likes snatchy. Video was a blast.
Speaker 1: He actually played my wedding him. He wrote his writing
Speaker 1: song that will be his number one. He actually sent
Speaker 1: it to my my Now, why it's not you're the
Speaker 1: only ones that heard if you sent it to us
Speaker 1: and said you were not releasing this until everyone will
Speaker 1: play for the wedding song. So he did, and it's
Speaker 1: it will come out soon. That'll be his big one.
Speaker 1: It's good. So we had you on, you know, during
Speaker 1: the summer really with Brandon talk about the book when
Speaker 1: it came out the Operator, which is still like number
Speaker 1: one and number one that's number today. But I know
Speaker 1: that you know you recently read the book, Jason, and
Speaker 1: you're raving about it. Ever since my Thanksgiving weekend has
Speaker 1: been consumed with this book. And let me tell you,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't has spend doing anything else. And I just
Speaker 1: want to say this to Rob right now, dude, you're
Speaker 1: way too fucking humble. Bro, You're a bad motherfucker man.
Speaker 1: They're just reading his book and watching his path as
Speaker 1: far as leaving, you know, his small town, joining the Navy,
Speaker 1: going straight into buds like he that you manifesting your
Speaker 1: own destiny within your mind and executed it like perfectly. Well,
Speaker 1: that's the whole point of the book too. Is exactly
Speaker 1: what you just said there, Jason, is that it's it's
Speaker 1: in your mind. The first thing to go is your mind,
Speaker 1: and try and do anything in life, anything you're trying
Speaker 1: to do. You start doubting yourself or believing we were
Speaker 1: just talking about this, start believing the haters and negativity.
Speaker 1: You fucked. Stay and stay stay. You can convince your
Speaker 1: body through your mind to do anything you want. And
Speaker 1: that's what I didn't know. Just it's just one of
Speaker 1: the things where I joined the Navy because I try
Speaker 1: to join the Marine Corps and I got suckered into buzz,
Speaker 1: not knowing how to swim, but just getting there, following what,
Speaker 1: you know, what I think should be done, and remembering
Speaker 1: the people who told me I couldn't make it, and
Speaker 1: it was just you know, and just getting there meeting
Speaker 1: the people, you know, meeting the brotherhood, and then getting
Speaker 1: to a Seal team, meeting the older guys, watching them,
Speaker 1: and then and then just traveling the world, and then
Speaker 1: eleven and then while not leaving, then then just randomly
Speaker 1: running into a guy from Seal Team six at the
Speaker 1: p X who was giving me a mean mug. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: if he's so fucking cool, I gotta go find out
Speaker 1: what he's doing. So I go over there and just
Speaker 1: staying positive, keep moving forward. You're gonna fall down, get up.
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do about it? You're gonna have
Speaker 1: a bad day. There'll be a day in c QUB training,
Speaker 1: which is the hardest part of selection, very technical. One
Speaker 1: flyer and the c QUB courts is wrap is you're
Speaker 1: you're getting counsel and you're probably getting kicked out the
Speaker 1: house that day. That's no good. Yeah, they're there are
Speaker 1: guys that fund up one time now and that's a
Speaker 1: fire that's just off paper but still on the trap.
Speaker 1: You know. That's Yeah, this is terrible. It would it
Speaker 1: would be good in the country music video, yeah, but
Speaker 1: not in house. Yeah, you didn't shoot that fucking t
Speaker 1: box and that triangular. I'm sorry, this is on the
Speaker 1: edge of the paper. You need to pack your shin
Speaker 1: and get the funk out of here. But it is,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a lot a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of these a lot of physical stuff, but it's
Speaker 1: a lot of mental toughness and dealing with animosity, dealing
Speaker 1: with adversity, but realizing, like when you go to bed
Speaker 1: at night, tomorrow's a brand new day and regardless, and
Speaker 1: you might have a bad day or been a couple
Speaker 1: of bad days in a row, don't let it get
Speaker 1: in your head. Like you broke it down. Was live
Speaker 1: live evolution, evolution kind of like okay, next to lunch,
Speaker 1: you know, live until lunch, live until dinner, you know,
Speaker 1: just survive until then. Just get through it, you know.
Speaker 1: And I call it in my world, I call it
Speaker 1: zombie mode. And that's just head down, one foot in
Speaker 1: front of the other, and you have no other choice.
Speaker 1: You have to go through it. Well, yeah, even even
Speaker 1: in even in the book when we because everyone would
Speaker 1: have been asking, I mean, since Vietnam, why we why
Speaker 1: we have Hell week? Why don't we have Hell week?
Speaker 1: And then we my first mission was Resquad and we
Speaker 1: we're three days a week looking for the loan survivor
Speaker 1: and matt axes and we didn't know, and the crash
Speaker 1: site and looking around on the mountain like if we
Speaker 1: wanted to quit, where the fund are we gonna go?
Speaker 1: And then the irony of that, not the irony of
Speaker 1: the hell week, uh, you know, resembling real life scenarios,
Speaker 1: the irony of that scenario, that situation you went and
Speaker 1: when you went out to try to secure the crash site,
Speaker 1: and it took you guys so fucking long that eventually
Speaker 1: they clear getting guys, They cleared guys landing exactly at
Speaker 1: the crash got there's ten twelve hours into our hike.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't a waste, you know what I'm saying. Definitely,
Speaker 1: it definitely wasn't a waste because one, you guys were there,
Speaker 1: but too had nothing happened. You were the only contingents.
Speaker 1: That's why we were redundant eventually once And the fact
Speaker 1: that the fact you guys said, you know what, what
Speaker 1: was it ten fucking well? How far with ten hours
Speaker 1: of of hyke right up we were We hiked in
Speaker 1: the Conan Province from just I don't think these people
Speaker 1: realize these monas. Dude, I read Montana Mountain Training and
Speaker 1: I caught like six asthma attacks. I'm like climbing up
Speaker 1: like eleven fifteen. You know what. My My one one uh,
Speaker 1: I don't know, not judgment, but complaint maybe about the
Speaker 1: movie Lone Survivor is that when the actors the stuntmen
Speaker 1: were jumping down the cliffs, they weren't steep enough. Some
Speaker 1: serious stuff. Afghanistan. I wish everyone could fly over the
Speaker 1: Coronal Valley just to take a look. Dude, you were
Speaker 1: talking about that one Afghani that took the fucking RPG
Speaker 1: to his back and like fucking fell down the mountain
Speaker 1: and then got back up and gave you this okay Usa.
Speaker 1: And then when we got back because he and I
Speaker 1: mean you mean were the worst people in the world
Speaker 1: with the best people in the world, when he got
Speaker 1: blown up and his hat flew off, I remember saying,
Speaker 1: you know, if we lived through this, I'm gonna for
Speaker 1: those of you guys who haven't read the book, let
Speaker 1: me give you a little a little backstory here. So
Speaker 1: this is one of the uh, the Afghanis SF cats
Speaker 1: that were training with them. They're not training what they
Speaker 1: were working with them. They were executing this mission, and
Speaker 1: you know, these guys he alluded to being very on point,
Speaker 1: you know, considering from the average Afghanny soldiers. So they
Speaker 1: were working together and while they were just pinned down
Speaker 1: by this overwhelming enemy force that was coming from a checkpoint,
Speaker 1: and they were maneuvering very technically intact. They were training
Speaker 1: because they were well trained, they were talented and uh
Speaker 1: and Pakistani and you also alluded to that one ches
Speaker 1: and we'll get a minute because I ran into something
Speaker 1: like that in Iraq as well. And you know you're
Speaker 1: in a serious fight when you, yeah, when you see
Speaker 1: a big Diesel hy due to the red hair. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and with the other team, you're like, yeah, this is
Speaker 1: some I was like, hey, man, you might want to
Speaker 1: get on this team. Yeah. Bro, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you know you're on the right side, but you're right. Um,
Speaker 1: So that's who this guy is. And while he was,
Speaker 1: you know, pinned down and looking around, he's seen this
Speaker 1: guy literally eat RPG to the back in his backpack,
Speaker 1: blew everything up and uh, he flew down the mountain
Speaker 1: and that was the first guy to get hit. And
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, we just lost our first guy.
Speaker 1: We're not leaving him here. We're gonna get on. And
Speaker 1: the guy turned around. His hat was off, and he
Speaker 1: looked at me and all he said was okay, Usa,
Speaker 1: and everyone's god okay. I guess you know what he means.
Speaker 1: And he lost his hat and so the fight ensued.
Speaker 1: We end up getting air Force air support. We bought
Speaker 1: Pakistan for a while. And that was actually funny too
Speaker 1: because when because the first jet to show up was
Speaker 1: a B one and he was at uh he d
Speaker 1: my My radio guy Tony said all right, bombs away
Speaker 1: two minutes out and I'm like, what why two minutes
Speaker 1: I've got I've got a thousand guy dives we did
Speaker 1: this is what was a space shuttle dropping this? And
Speaker 1: it was a B one of like fifty thousand feet
Speaker 1: and so he just dropped three j m's and a
Speaker 1: five pound right behind it. And so then he ended
Speaker 1: up bombing him for a while, and soil he went.
Speaker 1: He went Bengal. He had to leave out of fuel
Speaker 1: and when he left, an F fifteen showed up. And
Speaker 1: I always make the difference that the distinction between and
Speaker 1: F like a B one bombers flown by a colonel
Speaker 1: of senior officer distinguished and an F eighteen is like
Speaker 1: a twenty five year six yeld badass, like from Ohio,
Speaker 1: the one punch somebody. So he showed up and he's
Speaker 1: in this formulation or whatever. He knew we'd been in
Speaker 1: a fight for a while and in order to get
Speaker 1: rid of the technicalities instead of us going through all
Speaker 1: the ship, he said, just talk to me like I'm
Speaker 1: a man. And my response was, I see, I see,
Speaker 1: I see why women find you attractive, and that kind
Speaker 1: of So we had immediate rapport, if you will, and
Speaker 1: so we get So we finished the fight and then
Speaker 1: we fly out and as we're taking off, we had
Speaker 1: you know, we had a couple of other Americans there
Speaker 1: s F and then a couple of Afghans were taking off.
Speaker 1: I'm in the rear black Hawk and as we're lieving,
Speaker 1: I saw the battlefield for the first time, like we've
Speaker 1: been bombing Pakistan for four hours, three hours, and I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: this is we just bought Pakistan. This is an international incident.
Speaker 1: The lines get blurred. A lot of these borders they're
Speaker 1: not marked. You know, it's like you don't know. All
Speaker 1: you know is someone's trying to kill you over there
Speaker 1: and you're over here. I don't care about any invisible lines.
Speaker 1: It's going down. It was, it was, and then we
Speaker 1: finally got back and that was you know, we we
Speaker 1: had we knew the ten K if we got hit
Speaker 1: and we had positive identification and uh, we're troops in contact.
Speaker 1: But like that. But I got went in that Afghan dude.
Speaker 1: I told him, I'm gonna get you a drink because
Speaker 1: I know some agency dudes. And I walked up and
Speaker 1: often when you see he's good, he's a good Muslim,
Speaker 1: I don't want to drink, but can you get me
Speaker 1: a new hat? Because it was it was blown off
Speaker 1: when that fucking RPG like a half every day in
Speaker 1: a week. Bro, you are something else. That was awesome though.
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Speaker 1: Rob O'Neill. Dude, let me tell you some of these Arabics, man,
Speaker 1: they're hard to kill. That they are are hard to kill.
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember shooting a guy and a bullet
Speaker 1: went through his lung, like into his arm armpit, in
Speaker 1: through his lung and then came out somewhere in his back.
Speaker 1: And this fucking guy sat down on a curb and
Speaker 1: started smoking a cigarette until we were held up on him.
Speaker 1: And the whole time I'm thinking, how bad is this dude?
Speaker 1: Did I mentioned in the book? I don't know about
Speaker 1: the guy shot in the head to lift. No, I
Speaker 1: don't know. There's a stive on software. Because we were
Speaker 1: creeping up on the house. This guy's in a he's
Speaker 1: kind of in this I'm not making this up. He's
Speaker 1: in a position like he's maneuvering, but we have night vision.
Speaker 1: He can't see it. He can't see us, but we
Speaker 1: can see him, and he's going for his gun and
Speaker 1: he's next to a woman. I gotta take a shot.
Speaker 1: So I took a shot, hit him in the head.
Speaker 1: He stood up and he ran right to R PJ.
Speaker 1: And I don't know how yeah here, and it came
Speaker 1: right around and stuck in his shoulder. And then I
Speaker 1: remember thinking, you know, obviously he freaked you out. But
Speaker 1: I'm like, if anyone who serves to live tonight, this
Speaker 1: guy does. And he just took. He just took. That's
Speaker 1: a hallow point. It reminds me of If that's not
Speaker 1: it reminds me of Apocalypse. Now. Remember when they're on
Speaker 1: the beach with the cavalry coming in and one of
Speaker 1: the VC guys are there with his guts hanging out
Speaker 1: and he's like this dirty VC wae water. I said
Speaker 1: he could drink patty water. And the Colonel is like
Speaker 1: any VC tough enough to fight me, he's tough enough
Speaker 1: to drink water. You gotta respect some of that guy.
Speaker 1: There are stories like that. We were talking about this again,
Speaker 1: that a lot of people don't know that there there are,
Speaker 1: there's stuff. Not everything is a perfect shot, a perfect killing,
Speaker 1: a perfect weird like just a will to live on
Speaker 1: some people. You see it and it's there and it's it.
Speaker 1: War was a lot different in person, but I also
Speaker 1: think they bred for that kind of ship like mental
Speaker 1: mentality wise, of the Afghanistan, but even Iraqis I think
Speaker 1: you know some of them, think of guys that counted
Speaker 1: Afghanistan ain't no joke. Let me tell you. I've been
Speaker 1: to both places, and I think by far, Iraq has
Speaker 1: been tough for me at some points. But Afghanistan is
Speaker 1: a meat grinding run into some of those guys to
Speaker 1: cut their teeth out to get to Iraq. A lot
Speaker 1: of the foreign fighters, but some of the locals, I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I mean whatever, and they're fighting against us, and we're
Speaker 1: hard to fight. But some of the talent, I mean,
Speaker 1: they grew up fighting and they're there. We were running
Speaker 1: outstations in Afghanistan and Jalalabad where you can't pay for
Speaker 1: security and you shop into bazaars and you help them,
Speaker 1: which was how good was the security? It was okay,
Speaker 1: But this is back before we became occupiers, so we're
Speaker 1: doing but like we would interview for security and we'd
Speaker 1: have like a fifty five year old dude with a
Speaker 1: big red and gray beard and telling you whatever he
Speaker 1: thought the Russians with the Jehad and like how old
Speaker 1: are you two? It's like, you don't even how old
Speaker 1: you are, dude, But but they've been fighting forever and
Speaker 1: he got no tea because they will pulled out appliers
Speaker 1: and guys over there the look seventy dude. I mean,
Speaker 1: we work with some guys that have some like phenomenal
Speaker 1: stories of like fighting the Iranians and stuff, and it's
Speaker 1: just like what happened to you? Holy crap, if you're
Speaker 1: still in the fight. They've been fighting a long time.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if you interviewed someone to fund
Speaker 1: Alexander the Great and we and then you know, and
Speaker 1: the audacity of us, you know, we still employ these
Speaker 1: guys that like fucking work drop arms at a fucking
Speaker 1: compound and I've Ghanistan, you know, when this guy was
Speaker 1: out killing Russians in the mountain. I wish we could
Speaker 1: just tell a lot of the voting public that we're
Speaker 1: not going to instill democracy in Afghanistan. It's not going
Speaker 1: to happen. I don't remember want to start with like
Speaker 1: running wall. They're not used to they're not used to
Speaker 1: any of that. They want their valleys. What I am
Speaker 1: starting to see their village and there they want. They
Speaker 1: want what they want, they want their farmland to work,
Speaker 1: they want their simplicity, and I just don't want us there.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's been a connecting theme on the
Speaker 1: podcast too. It's just you're not going to install Appersonian
Speaker 1: democracy in the Middle Eastern country there. Their tribes were
Speaker 1: around a thousand years before Jefferson, Like, we're not going
Speaker 1: to go over there. And like I remember after the Latroll,
Speaker 1: when we're going after Latroil in the middle of it,
Speaker 1: when the Marines brought that famous note that Latrell wrote
Speaker 1: and gave it to some of the guys, And when
Speaker 1: we were there for that, he brought that dude in
Speaker 1: and we're trying to show him a map of his village.
Speaker 1: Here he didn't know. He didn't know what a map was,
Speaker 1: so we thought it's a good idea, was just opened
Speaker 1: the laptop and show him falcon Field because he's definitely
Speaker 1: gonna that's It's We might have showed him the face
Speaker 1: of Mohammed himself. This guy just like we're gonna come
Speaker 1: him and walk him in. I don't know which. You know,
Speaker 1: it's one of those crazy things because both of you
Speaker 1: guys being in combat, you know, you being the man
Speaker 1: who killed Bin Laden. It's like, what is the end
Speaker 1: game if it's not nation building, which is what we've
Speaker 1: been told is the end game in these countries. I
Speaker 1: think you alluded to that in the end of your book,
Speaker 1: and this is and I think that was so deep
Speaker 1: in because the way he explained when you came to
Speaker 1: that moment of realization that you were out to pop,
Speaker 1: smoke and get out, when you realize everything you've done
Speaker 1: in these countries up to this point, which you thought
Speaker 1: was a race to the top, and once you got
Speaker 1: to the fucking top, destroyed the top. This man right
Speaker 1: here now you're back operating again, and you're going after
Speaker 1: what you what they were labeled as at that time,
Speaker 1: which is not the way to you. It was like
Speaker 1: anybody less than yeah. Okay, So so my last mission
Speaker 1: in Afghanistan, like bin Laden, wasn't the last guy shot
Speaker 1: with that gun. The last guy shot with the gun
Speaker 1: was an h v T who probably no one gave
Speaker 1: a shit about except the intel guy that thinks he
Speaker 1: foun him because he's staying up ageing hours a day
Speaker 1: and the talk right, um we and it was actually
Speaker 1: a cool lot because we actually got to do my
Speaker 1: my one and only l ambush. You know, we all
Speaker 1: tried one and all that I know, and that's how
Speaker 1: we said it. Even when we tried to explain it
Speaker 1: to the I'm not gonna bad nothing anymore. We're trying
Speaker 1: to explain to some of these approving officers what we're
Speaker 1: gonna do. We had an officer, what's an L. We're like, well,
Speaker 1: an L. His brain wasn't really well. N L is
Speaker 1: the second thing they teach you when you join the army.
Speaker 1: It's here's your bunk and then this is an ELL.
Speaker 1: And we explained and who invented it? Like sun zoo
Speaker 1: fucking I don't know, right, And but we said at
Speaker 1: this guy, whoever that guy was, that we just did
Speaker 1: a simple little thing where there's like these guys have
Speaker 1: been doing this around this mountain. They start the car
Speaker 1: every day they drive in the same route and no
Speaker 1: one drives because this winter and um, you know we're
Speaker 1: in like Pectilla Province, I think, and they go here,
Speaker 1: they wait and when if Americ's went by, the ambush
Speaker 1: them then if not, they drive right back. And they
Speaker 1: do this every day and so we're watching them and finally, okay,
Speaker 1: if they do it on Friday, which is their day
Speaker 1: of prayer, they're definitely doing on Saturday. So we washed them.
Speaker 1: Sure as hell they did it, Like okay, now here's
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. We set it up. There's a
Speaker 1: rock formation they drive past. We're gonna walk up there,
Speaker 1: set the uh the bas team behind us and they
Speaker 1: can't see it, and the maneuver element's gonna get some cover.
Speaker 1: Got snipers with three bags two hundred yards away. So
Speaker 1: guess what they're gonna hit that shot and all they're
Speaker 1: gonna do. The the I SKEDR was gonna tell us,
Speaker 1: you know, green light yellow at red. We hop out
Speaker 1: there it is. We tell them to get out. They
Speaker 1: don't and they didn't get out. What they did but
Speaker 1: RPGs and everything, so we gotta blast them. But we
Speaker 1: had these guys. There's there's zero intelligence, there's nothing in
Speaker 1: the village there. These guys are just they're going to
Speaker 1: kill Americans because Americans were there. I was on the
Speaker 1: big laden rate ten months before this, so you were
Speaker 1: used to you were used to going after the big fish,
Speaker 1: and here you are just taking care of the average fooholdier.
Speaker 1: And a lot of the missions I saw, guys were
Speaker 1: doing them out of boredom. There's no I mean, if
Speaker 1: you want to start with parliament up in Cobble, that's
Speaker 1: that's where you're bad guys are. That's that's where the
Speaker 1: corruption isn't always has been, and we're not gonna take
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe there can be a semi stable, semi
Speaker 1: cooperative government Cobble, probably not Canada. That's where the Taliban rolls.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna ever be back to remember blessing up
Speaker 1: in the pesh River Valley down to Asada beat those
Speaker 1: are gone to the Talibans. They're trying to figure out
Speaker 1: how to eat our treadmills that we left behind. You know,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna instill it, so we gotta which gets
Speaker 1: me into like what I'm sorry to throw up, but
Speaker 1: it's like, what is that endgame? Because you know you well,
Speaker 1: I mean, you need to keep a presence somewhere like
Speaker 1: Bogram because I remember in case they start something, because
Speaker 1: look what happened when we pulled out of Iraq, and
Speaker 1: you can't bank you at the vacuum. But I mean,
Speaker 1: it will come to a point, and even I mean
Speaker 1: President Obama realized this and President Trump is realizing it
Speaker 1: might come down to negotiating with the Taliban and just
Speaker 1: saying no more foreign fighters or else we're gonna bomb you.
Speaker 1: I remember when John McCain ran against Obama, Um, you know,
Speaker 1: he said that we would have a presence in Iraq
Speaker 1: for possibly a hundred years, and it was like this
Speaker 1: crazy statement and people are like, we're gonna be a
Speaker 1: war for a hundred years. But having a presence doesn't
Speaker 1: necessarily meant present presence in Germany. Yeah, but I mean
Speaker 1: that's the set well, I mean, and you got to
Speaker 1: figure ou how fickle the a lot of the American voters.
Speaker 1: Remember when Mitt Romney said one of the biggest problems
Speaker 1: we're gonna have soon as Russia, and everyone laughed all Russia.
Speaker 1: What is this nineteen eight? Well guess what, now we
Speaker 1: have a problem. I mean, and you need to see.
Speaker 1: I mean, but I want to get a bunch into politics.
Speaker 1: I work quite a bit. See, She's like, nobody wants
Speaker 1: to watch the party politics. That's why, that's why the
Speaker 1: Kardashans at TMZ is so popular. I get home to
Speaker 1: our reality TV, so I'd rather watch t MC too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's mindless. It's like, oh, ship, she just smacked the
Speaker 1: chick for wearing the same dress. That's crazy that they
Speaker 1: if they have meshed into one another. Yeah, I feel like, yeah, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I need the politics now. You can get that. You know,
Speaker 1: if you could sell ten million of your new eyeliner
Speaker 1: in one minute on on Snapchat, you're probably gonna be
Speaker 1: able to instance fluence some voters or you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm talking about my ask whatever. No, I hear.
Speaker 1: They tried with it didn't work out so well this year, didn't.
Speaker 1: So getting into set stop our liberal audience don't like
Speaker 1: that our audiences you have ye, we do. Actually to
Speaker 1: audience members, thank you for listening, and no, seriously, thank you.
Speaker 1: I like the fact that you guys, if there are
Speaker 1: that's good because you're opening your you're opening your view.
Speaker 1: You're put in your field of fire if you will,
Speaker 1: because there are audience they know what I think. But
Speaker 1: I say, because white, why listen to just what you believe.
Speaker 1: You're never gonna learn from listening to people that have
Speaker 1: the same belief. You need to listen to someone else
Speaker 1: and possibly if you don't get me wrong, but have
Speaker 1: a cordial debate. It's I want to prick on to
Speaker 1: you know, I know when you when you were when
Speaker 1: you're wrong. You know what I mean because I eat it.
Speaker 1: You know, especially with something some liberal points is that
Speaker 1: you know what you're kind of right, that was messed up,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'll be the first one,
Speaker 1: and I know you work over at Fox News. I
Speaker 1: think it's like the people who um check out alternative
Speaker 1: media sources, which we are a lot of them just
Speaker 1: don't trust the media at large, whether it is Fox.
Speaker 1: A lot of people won't watch Fox News just because
Speaker 1: they think it's fake news because the other media lets
Speaker 1: tell them it's fake news and its nonsense. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've worked at all of them, and I actually picked Fox.
Speaker 1: I'm a contributor there because they did without question, the
Speaker 1: best effect finding without question, and if you if you
Speaker 1: say something wrong, you're probably gonna be gone. Now, I
Speaker 1: will watch MSNBC when I'm on the treadmill because it
Speaker 1: makes me run really fucking fast. I just think the
Speaker 1: reason it's so split is because I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people in our audience don't trust any of them.
Speaker 1: That's that's why they're looking for alternative media sources. But
Speaker 1: you're getting into some news here because there's a lot
Speaker 1: going on, the biggest of which is the North Korea
Speaker 1: missile lunch. And the thing that I took out of
Speaker 1: this the most was an article where Maddis made their
Speaker 1: remarks as he sat in the meeting with Trump House
Speaker 1: Speaker Ryan and sent a Majority Leader McConnell um, and
Speaker 1: added that North Korea has the ability to hit everywhere
Speaker 1: in the world basically, And that's a quote. And this
Speaker 1: is actually kind of shocking to me because on the podcast,
Speaker 1: we've had guests on before and writer for the site
Speaker 1: who say North Korea is not really a threat to
Speaker 1: the US as much as they are to South Korea
Speaker 1: or to Japan. And when you hear this, this is
Speaker 1: actually a huge escalation from that. A lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of the reason people don't can they don't think
Speaker 1: North Korea's a threat is because they think of the
Speaker 1: world as the map. Like a lot of the flat earthers,
Speaker 1: if they're gonna hit New York and Washington, they're not.
Speaker 1: They're not going across the Pacific to coming up and around.
Speaker 1: So if you get that certain miles, you're gonna hit
Speaker 1: anyone in the world, just because like or not, the
Speaker 1: world is round. Plus we you start dealing with the
Speaker 1: rotation of the year. I mean, you gotta figure to
Speaker 1: take a sniper shot at two thousand meters, you're dealing
Speaker 1: with rotations exactly. You shoot a missile how high? How
Speaker 1: many miles into space above the space station? Don't I
Speaker 1: don't even I should probably look it up. It was
Speaker 1: higher than the International Space Station and it came down.
Speaker 1: You started dealing with that. I mean, that's the same
Speaker 1: reason planes fly faster eastern than you figure out. Tho
Speaker 1: kilometers was probably dirty miles. So they were ten, they were.
Speaker 1: They were in the strategy, you know, And if it can,
Speaker 1: if it can, if it's flying for fifty minutes at
Speaker 1: that's it's a long time anywhere in the world, And
Speaker 1: it's crazy because the dialogue has always been other technology
Speaker 1: so far behind, they're not going to do anything. And
Speaker 1: then you know, it's funny what they don't like to admit, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: their technology is behind. You know who's not China? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Russia. I mean, I'm saying China can be helping them.
Speaker 1: We won't get into the Hawaisa dam did this and
Speaker 1: then how I defended them in al Kaina has been
Speaker 1: alawed to the Geha defending from yeah, the whole much.
Speaker 1: I'm glad we can talk about it. I got a
Speaker 1: lot of time. Yeah, but I think or at um
Speaker 1: In in the same uh in the same situation, said
Speaker 1: that realistically, we are not currently under a threat because
Speaker 1: they don't have the capability to reach out. Now, that's
Speaker 1: something else they're not mentioned is our ability, especially to
Speaker 1: defend ourselves and when we can, there are different ways
Speaker 1: to that haven't been discussed that the ways to defend
Speaker 1: Japan and South Korea. And what's interesting too is President
Speaker 1: Trump actually said we can do that and they should
Speaker 1: pay us for it, because why we're doing it for free,
Speaker 1: which is interesting, which is and what was it the
Speaker 1: what was the name of the missile defense system. We
Speaker 1: put up that, well, yeah, he has that the that
Speaker 1: is that high altitude air defense and I want to
Speaker 1: say thermal defense. I want to say South Korea kind
Speaker 1: of had a little political tryst over that and do
Speaker 1: but I want to pay for it or so. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but we're I mean, we're twenty some trillion dollars in debt.
Speaker 1: Maybe someone should pay us for what we're doing. Because
Speaker 1: even if NATO the NATO stuff, they're not paying that
Speaker 1: their percentage of the GDP they agreed for NATO. Yet
Speaker 1: we still put stuff over there because its in our
Speaker 1: interests to defend our allies. And that's what we've seen
Speaker 1: so much on defense. And it's just we're kind of
Speaker 1: the world police East, and we've been made fun of
Speaker 1: for that, But what if we weren't. So it's it's
Speaker 1: no matter. You've got a good point to me. I'm
Speaker 1: just you know, I'm pretty tired of having to fork
Speaker 1: over cash as a citizen for other fucking people that
Speaker 1: have nothing to do with me in another country you
Speaker 1: have no interest in helping you at all. And then
Speaker 1: and then being someone that has worked for the government,
Speaker 1: being that's someone that worked in defense of the government,
Speaker 1: also in uh, you know, contracting and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: and still getting tax at the percentile. It's just like, yo,
Speaker 1: what the hell? You know, like it's bad enough, I'm
Speaker 1: away from my family for X amount of times just
Speaker 1: to get Yeah, now you're breaking me at the pockets
Speaker 1: where it hurts, you know, especially when you get out
Speaker 1: of the military and then you get and then you
Speaker 1: realize what your fair share is even though you've been
Speaker 1: to you're talking the cut and checks the governments like whoa.
Speaker 1: And then you got to come home and throw on
Speaker 1: fucking the news and you see NFL h NFL players
Speaker 1: you know, meaning you know, for if you're getting ten
Speaker 1: million dollar contracts and stuff, and it's just like, bro,
Speaker 1: you're enough for nothing. I kind of put my life
Speaker 1: on the line, got blown up a couple of times too.
Speaker 1: I don't think we were gonna talk about this and
Speaker 1: about the whole neion for the flag. Yeah, that's what's good,
Speaker 1: that's what's good. Um, But when they and I've never
Speaker 1: been well, you're you're from New York and you've seen
Speaker 1: some bad ship. I've never I didn't grow up with
Speaker 1: what potentially a lot of these guys did, and I
Speaker 1: can respect their protests. But as a veteran, I tell
Speaker 1: I'm just not now. And they'll say, well, it's it's
Speaker 1: not about the military. I'm like, yeah it is, because
Speaker 1: I mean, I know some vets are not against it,
Speaker 1: but the flag is a direct representation of what we do.
Speaker 1: It's on our uniform exactly. And and you know, we
Speaker 1: we go down and we screwinize down to the very
Speaker 1: wearing of the flag. You know. Um, it has to
Speaker 1: go with the flow of the wind or the direction
Speaker 1: of movement. And you know, everything we do is you know,
Speaker 1: even the way we fold the flag that way, we
Speaker 1: don't allow the flag. That flag is everything to us.
Speaker 1: I think they understand. I had some friends make some
Speaker 1: shirts that I was going to authorize. Um, I said,
Speaker 1: just let me give it once over. The flag was backwards.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what happened. Wrong shoulder, sorry, brother, flag was forward,
Speaker 1: wrong shoulder. And I said, I said, you wear it.
Speaker 1: Watch every single vet you see first everyone Now they
Speaker 1: don't play no games, No, what's it? Yeah, And like
Speaker 1: I displayed the flag. I think I'm one of the
Speaker 1: only houses in my neighborhood that has the American flag
Speaker 1: hanging out, you know. And I also and I also
Speaker 1: displayed next to the Marine Corps flag. And it's crazy
Speaker 1: because I have a lot of um Arabic neighbors, because
Speaker 1: it's in its affluent community in the Bronx, you know,
Speaker 1: it around a lot of doctors and lawyers, and a
Speaker 1: lot of them are like sir Arabic surgeons, you know.
Speaker 1: So it's what's crazy. There a lot of Muslims. I
Speaker 1: will still go out and I will still raise my flag,
Speaker 1: you know, lower it or put it at half mass
Speaker 1: whatever something happens, like a mass shooting and stuff like,
Speaker 1: because we take it that serious. Yeah, it's very sure.
Speaker 1: That's why you try to explain it to guys like,
Speaker 1: look that this is the and I mean they're learning
Speaker 1: now there losing five million dollars, the NFL is learning
Speaker 1: and it's not I mean it's not even the players.
Speaker 1: It's poor leadership by Roger Goodell. Look at the NBA,
Speaker 1: look at the Look at Roger Goodell is too soft.
Speaker 1: He s here's a rule, you'd stand up. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think two minutes. I think you know, at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, he's running a business and well the
Speaker 1: problem here and he's gonna run into this with Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: is that he's not running a business, he's running a nonprofit. Well,
Speaker 1: and he's also getting government funding. Yeah that's a big deal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a big deal. But you know when you look
Speaker 1: at it, the way I see it is you're running
Speaker 1: a business and this is affecting the bottom line. So
Speaker 1: you're allowing your employees to continue some type of activity
Speaker 1: to affect your bottom line. That's not good business for
Speaker 1: any Well, even with they had a game overseas and
Speaker 1: they took a knee for the the anthem and they
Speaker 1: stood for God's save the Queen. Now, if you're protesting imperialism,
Speaker 1: that's still the same lineage of the royal family is
Speaker 1: pretty fucking imperialistic, if you if you might have noticed
Speaker 1: over the past couple of centuries, and I mean you
Speaker 1: people need to realize that, especially these athletes, that how
Speaker 1: you act in your own country should definitely be different
Speaker 1: than how you're representing America when you're in another country.
Speaker 1: And if it's just have a that as a forces agreement,
Speaker 1: so saving like the same thing we got to deal
Speaker 1: with everywhere we go to It's like, what do you
Speaker 1: mean I can't use my left hand to shake there?
Speaker 1: And what I don't don't touch it on the bottom
Speaker 1: of your feet all that. I mean, we get told
Speaker 1: this stuff. And I used to always say that Rob.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it used to irk you like
Speaker 1: it irk me. Every time we got into another country
Speaker 1: and we got our soul for brief it was like, well,
Speaker 1: fuck them, they know who we are. That's initially how
Speaker 1: I thought you I'm an American, But yeah, that's kind
Speaker 1: of lost. Pushing in ouralistic The arrogant American look at
Speaker 1: these guys exists because it's it's sometimes real. I take
Speaker 1: a good balance of everything over all, a little bit
Speaker 1: of respect, but yeah, you know, a little sternness, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: because you don't take advantage of you a little ball. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the hustles, the hustle, and they actually get insulted if
Speaker 1: you don't handle, if you don't born about all the time.
Speaker 1: But you know, it's crazy. I don't come here in
Speaker 1: New York and bought as I as much as I
Speaker 1: used to doing Afghanistan, because oh here you try to
Speaker 1: bought it, and you know, they make you feel some
Speaker 1: type of way like you're broke, you know, like I'm
Speaker 1: not broke, I'm just barter. You don't know the body,
Speaker 1: never mind I miss Afghanistan. So this is interesting stuff.
Speaker 1: Going on another topic, I wanted to hit because I
Speaker 1: saw your Twitter earlier today which you could follow Rob
Speaker 1: on Twitter at mcuyahas Kulia has a funny name because
Speaker 1: you know, cl say who ya Marina's avour and then
Speaker 1: who of her army? And mine was just mick Hujah
Speaker 1: the Irish shoya because I had six followers who all
Speaker 1: my buddies. The next day came out that I killed
Speaker 1: a lot and I had like twenty thousand followers and
Speaker 1: like I'm keeping so you can follow him on Twitter
Speaker 1: and Instagram at mcculiah. But I want to get into
Speaker 1: something that you were just tweeting about the Benghazi attack
Speaker 1: or acquitted of murder um and and looking at this
Speaker 1: article which is actually originally I believe from CBS or
Speaker 1: you know they reposted this from the AP. But a
Speaker 1: federal jury on Tuesday today acquitted is suspected Libyan militant
Speaker 1: leader of murder charges stemming from the twelve Benghazi attacks
Speaker 1: that killed the U. S Ambassador and three other Americans. Jurors, however,
Speaker 1: convicted Ahmed boot Katala of terrorism related charges Prosecutors accused
Speaker 1: Abu Katala of leading a rampage aimed at killing personnel
Speaker 1: and plundering maps and other property from the US mission
Speaker 1: in Benghazi. Defense attorneys said their evidence against him with shoddy.
Speaker 1: U S Ambassador Chris Stevens was killed in the attack,
Speaker 1: along with the State Department Information Management officer. You guys
Speaker 1: all know the rest. If you're watching this, probably, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I wanted to get your immediate reaction to that because
Speaker 1: you were tweeting. Well, I mean, the issue again is
Speaker 1: political correctness versus reality. Um, this was never a crime scene,
Speaker 1: and even after it was, and I'm not going to
Speaker 1: get into what they were doing at the constant, there
Speaker 1: was some stuff going on for the better part of
Speaker 1: our military and some of our some of our clandestine operators.
Speaker 1: But as soon as it was over, the first thing
Speaker 1: the Obama administration did was blame it on a video,
Speaker 1: trying to blame it on political correct cause they were
Speaker 1: they were um offended by a video and we will
Speaker 1: put this video maker to just justice. Even though these
Speaker 1: dudes outside they were hitting their first and second mortar shots.
Speaker 1: You don't just go in there on take and take
Speaker 1: a dry shot, a cold boar shot with a mortar
Speaker 1: to start hitting. They were set up, they were in
Speaker 1: cahoots with the security guards paying them off. This was
Speaker 1: a hit. This is a terrorist attack. If you admit that,
Speaker 1: right at the best, Susan Rice doesn't go on the
Speaker 1: Sunday Morning shows the next day and start saying the
Speaker 1: video of the video of the video all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: because narrative, that's right, and and just admit. And here's
Speaker 1: here's where, here's where humility would help. If if Hillary
Speaker 1: or I'm not gonna get into the blame game, but
Speaker 1: if Hillary is the president, there's not even the presidents things,
Speaker 1: Secretary of States thing. Just admit, Hey, we were wrong.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get them. You make it a crime scene.
Speaker 1: Now you can't get the FBI in there to investigate,
Speaker 1: which means you don't get evidence, which means once you
Speaker 1: can't get the evidence, which will be tampered with over
Speaker 1: the next few weeks, you can't bring that evidence. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Then you bring it back to a goddamn jury in Washington,
Speaker 1: d C. No evidence. You can't blame the jury on
Speaker 1: this one. We don't have any evidence. This is a
Speaker 1: court of law. Do process for a terrorist this is
Speaker 1: what happens. You don't bring them back. That's why you
Speaker 1: have one tanamb. You put them there, you get him
Speaker 1: a military tribundal, and you put them in a fucking gallon.
Speaker 1: You suck the juice out of him of intelligence and
Speaker 1: everything you can, and hang them. I've talked about it
Speaker 1: before in the podcast. You have the issue with people
Speaker 1: who wanted to close Guantanamo Bay, which I remember was
Speaker 1: that when they said, okay, we'll release them into prisons.
Speaker 1: No congressman wants I don't want him in my district,
Speaker 1: wants prisoners from Guantanamo in their district, possibly radicalizing. That's
Speaker 1: what they do. You know, this guy's going to prison,
Speaker 1: but he's probably not. He should go to to solitary
Speaker 1: confinement for the rest of his life. And I have
Speaker 1: no problem with that, that or hard labor. But you
Speaker 1: get dudes like this that are very charismatic, they start
Speaker 1: they start radicalizing. The dudes that are getting out in
Speaker 1: a few years that they were risked on on a
Speaker 1: bullshit charge, and then they get out and then they're
Speaker 1: the problem. This is an issue with and they're they're
Speaker 1: primed to be radicalized. Because these guys, you feel like
Speaker 1: they've been screwed by that. I don't have them. I
Speaker 1: don't have the government. I hate the country, so I
Speaker 1: don't have any Here's a brotherhood and all I need
Speaker 1: to do this. I gotta go to paradise. So you bagged,
Speaker 1: you backed up a couple of guys in this situation.
Speaker 1: You've been the one that they sent after. Some of
Speaker 1: these guys are here. This this abu Ka. A couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, they paraded him around to seem as
Speaker 1: if he was the mastermind behind the Beghazi attack. And
Speaker 1: then we spoke to Um Tonto and Um Chris. He
Speaker 1: explained to us, well, his his feeling on the situation
Speaker 1: was that this guy was just like we talked about
Speaker 1: that that admiring our enemy. This guy was just born
Speaker 1: to be our sworn fucking enemy, could you know? And
Speaker 1: and he was just I guess, a part of the thing.
Speaker 1: So to him, it didn't matter. Nonetheless, whether we caught
Speaker 1: this guy or not, I would and I would take
Speaker 1: Tonto's word over this guy. Again, I wasn't there, but
Speaker 1: but I think the bad precedent is if you don't
Speaker 1: put up a fight, they're gonna show up and ar
Speaker 1: rescue and you'll be good to go, because I guarantee
Speaker 1: those guys, that's what I'm talking the watering down. Even
Speaker 1: even in Guantana, Obey, those dudes are getting twenty three
Speaker 1: hours in the yard and the yards of Caribbean islands
Speaker 1: where they're playing soccer, they're talking to, they get prey,
Speaker 1: they get meals and so to you compare that to
Speaker 1: living in a cave in Afghanistan, it's yeah. But Tom
Speaker 1: hit on that CBS article as well. Um, they said
Speaker 1: he eventually was still convicted of terrorists like ativity, right,
Speaker 1: what does that mean? Yeah? I mean what what? What
Speaker 1: is he? Is he getting convicted as a terrorist and
Speaker 1: that means he's not that he doesn't have any rights?
Speaker 1: Is he a enemy combative? Like? What happens after this?
Speaker 1: That's a good question. I've looked that up. That's actually
Speaker 1: really interesting. How did he get tried here? That he
Speaker 1: got tried exactly, and then he got tried here NDC
Speaker 1: actually and then and then you know that was what
Speaker 1: he was convicted of terrorist like activities. But amongst the
Speaker 1: verbiage in that article was kind of disheartening to me
Speaker 1: because they said that he was only the only evidence
Speaker 1: they had that was solid enough on him to stem
Speaker 1: that charge in the first place, was that he stole
Speaker 1: equipment and vandam Yeah he was. He was burning h
Speaker 1: classified So that's what they had evidence on. This is
Speaker 1: this is what happens when you get lawyers involved in
Speaker 1: the war. And I'd like to know who defended him.
Speaker 1: First off, this guy is it's holding a case burning
Speaker 1: government property on the day of questioning. And then we
Speaker 1: have enough fingers pointing to the fact that he was
Speaker 1: one of the orchestrators, not maybe the mastermind, but enough
Speaker 1: to be charismatic, to gather a group of guys and
Speaker 1: kind of like charisma. And that's what he's gonna use
Speaker 1: in in prison and and must have used it in
Speaker 1: court too, because what the hell, like you said, when
Speaker 1: you get these lawyers involved, like are you fucking trying
Speaker 1: to give these guys a free pass? And and and
Speaker 1: again that's more politics. The defender's job is to defend
Speaker 1: his client to get the win. The prosecutor's job is
Speaker 1: to get the win. But the prosecutor needs to prove
Speaker 1: beyond reasonable doubt. Do you it's do you think somehow
Speaker 1: this has something to do with this administration? And I'm
Speaker 1: saying that. Ha you especially, something is sensitive. A BEng
Speaker 1: Ghazi definitely has political ramifications, definitely because you've got you've
Speaker 1: got the Obama people, excuse me, the President Obama people,
Speaker 1: Secretary Clinton, President Trump, uh, you know, back to President Bush.
Speaker 1: Who's doing what? It's all political, That's that's part of that.
Speaker 1: It's very scary because this, this this in the in
Speaker 1: the short game is like, look a look at the
Speaker 1: party politics right now. All they want to do is
Speaker 1: make sure they secure their job. All this defense attorney
Speaker 1: wanted to do is make sure he keeps his job,
Speaker 1: gets a win. Everyone's trying to to get a win
Speaker 1: for themselves because they're selfish. It has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with the country. If if there was justice, there would
Speaker 1: have been people would have helped taunto his boys before
Speaker 1: they even got to that point. And I think that's
Speaker 1: what his biggest point was, like, you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: worried about the guy that sworn his entire life and
Speaker 1: that it dedicated his entire life to kill me. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't care what happens to that guy.
Speaker 1: I respect that guy enough as an enemy combatant and
Speaker 1: to basically take that side. And that stands in life.
Speaker 1: What he wants to see is the people that ultimately
Speaker 1: were responsible for our well being that fell short or
Speaker 1: dropped the ball answer for what they did. And that's
Speaker 1: and I agree with, yeah, tell the truth. So this
Speaker 1: right here. Although it is a story and he is
Speaker 1: convicted of terrorists like activities and not murder ian, he
Speaker 1: might spend a really long time in prison, what I
Speaker 1: don't want to see is him being traded for someone else.
Speaker 1: And we talk about that with both birds. You're a professional, sir,
Speaker 1: you know, I've been studying you know, but you know,
Speaker 1: and that goes back to that goes back to you.
Speaker 1: When I saw your first interview with um uh Tucker
Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson on Fox, which I love Fox, Like, I said,
Speaker 1: those guys are cool because they're the only ones whould
Speaker 1: really give me a shot. So that's I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not that conservative, guys, you know. I still I'm not
Speaker 1: very conservative, but you are less conservative than I actually
Speaker 1: is a live he's how did you know that? I know? Man,
Speaker 1: that group, bro, he's not gonna set himself up a
Speaker 1: night crazy. Uh. Yeah, It's it's important to sound like
Speaker 1: you know, but if you don't know what we're talking
Speaker 1: about talking about something to do. You just do it
Speaker 1: all the time. You can go back to tattooing and stuff. No,
Speaker 1: but you know, so what I found interesting was when
Speaker 1: you mentioned that that you were actually in the midst
Speaker 1: of going after certain a VT s and you have
Speaker 1: to put everything on holme. We were at fo B
Speaker 1: shank No Sharona, which is which is nearby eastern Afghanistan,
Speaker 1: and what the Taliban and al Qaeda had learned is
Speaker 1: that they can get across the border back to Pakistan
Speaker 1: um before you know, but before it gets dark. We're
Speaker 1: not gonna come after because we're waiting until at least
Speaker 1: dust before we go hit you. So we're learning that.
Speaker 1: So we're watching them and we figured if we start
Speaker 1: doing um helicopter interdictions as they're running back, we're gonna
Speaker 1: get them. And I'll tell you what, if there's any
Speaker 1: way to recruit people in a special operations, if you
Speaker 1: had a hunted men on motorcycles from a helicopter, you
Speaker 1: can't yet. So we're doing that every night and it's
Speaker 1: not like we're it's not fishing a barrel, but we're like,
Speaker 1: we're we're finding It was awesome and we're like giving
Speaker 1: them like there's legit rules of engagement on the way in,
Speaker 1: like you get them here. Okay, if you see the
Speaker 1: helicopters come up, they're looking for you. If they start shooting,
Speaker 1: by the by the way, a warning shot with minigan
Speaker 1: and it's pretty freaking obvious. That's okay. We didn't miss
Speaker 1: on purpose. And then that's when that's when the and
Speaker 1: they'll even shoot back sometimes. So so that's what we're doing.
Speaker 1: And we were getting some pretty pretty significant guys. Wean
Speaker 1: some guys would have surrendered. I went too. If I'm
Speaker 1: looking at the black that's one thing I've heard. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't run from a helicopter. You're dying, So I
Speaker 1: want to get into your thoughts. Then on the Bullberg,
Speaker 1: well so we were doing that and then uh one one,
Speaker 1: um not morning but night. You know, we're afternoon. We're
Speaker 1: waking up, and what we do is we get a
Speaker 1: coffee and we go to the talk what he has
Speaker 1: been watching where we hid and and we walk into Hey,
Speaker 1: some dude walked off. Look what you were saying that
Speaker 1: you heard? Prior to this one of his buddies were
Speaker 1: saying that he was talking candidly about yeah, because we
Speaker 1: were we were sharing the same chow hall as all
Speaker 1: these dudes. And again to just nothing but respect for
Speaker 1: the army. We we go down there to eat these
Speaker 1: dudes that come and just covered in filth. They've been
Speaker 1: driving around dangerous all day. And I just see these
Speaker 1: guys and these guys are there are people that were
Speaker 1: to Hella hearter than I did over there, and and um,
Speaker 1: they were telling you we get this guy that's gonna
Speaker 1: send his ship home whatever walk off, And we didn't
Speaker 1: take it too serious because everyone gets you know, they're
Speaker 1: over there, what thirteen sixteen months, are gonna get pissed
Speaker 1: at each other. One day he walked off and like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're shutting it down. We gotta find him. And so
Speaker 1: we started tracking phone calls and where and they were
Speaker 1: moving them like locals. Found and sold them to a
Speaker 1: group that was a friend of the Taliban. Is sold
Speaker 1: in the Taliban, and they're gonna sell him to Hakani
Speaker 1: And we got so close to getting him. I actually
Speaker 1: had the ransom money in my hands. We grabbed this dude,
Speaker 1: like what is this? Well, my son moved to Dubai
Speaker 1: and he's working construction. Him again he sent you this cash.
Speaker 1: No that's not true. So trying to do interrogations. But
Speaker 1: we got to the point where, um, we're doing we've
Speaker 1: stopped the war on the HP t s and we're
Speaker 1: actually landing on the X which we never do come
Speaker 1: out blast. And that's how one of my friends, Jimmy
Speaker 1: Hatch who who was uh testified they landed somehow on
Speaker 1: a on a p KM that didn't in anybody, and
Speaker 1: they pursued this dude. That's when that dog Remco got
Speaker 1: shot killed and um, Mike not um uh Mike, my buddy, No,
Speaker 1: nor I got a lot of ship going on. Jimmy
Speaker 1: got hit hit in the femur and and it almost
Speaker 1: killed him, a splintered and he had you got that
Speaker 1: famous picture online of the tourniquet and the final lollipop,
Speaker 1: and that wouldn't happen. Remco wouldn't be dead. Um, and
Speaker 1: then we you know, and they actually called my troop
Speaker 1: from our squadron into q r F because we're the
Speaker 1: closest ones there. We get this long gunfight and all
Speaker 1: this is going on because you're trying to get bow
Speaker 1: Burg Doll. There were guys getting blown up and shot
Speaker 1: and killed and maimed because he walked off of this
Speaker 1: man's responsibility. And then they give him because because he
Speaker 1: was a deserter and got put in a case. For
Speaker 1: a while, they're saying that they what do they give
Speaker 1: him sentence? Yeah? Yeah, like a time already served. You're good.
Speaker 1: So going back to when we saw burg Doll's father
Speaker 1: speak at the White House, and also it was ridiculous,
Speaker 1: and and also the language he was using and all that,
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering. Yeah, he said a prayer in Arabic.
Speaker 1: I'm during what your reaction was to seeing that? You
Speaker 1: don't remember that, I didn't remember the prayer in Arabic.
Speaker 1: He came out and said some stuff just because he
Speaker 1: was trying to trying to learn the the language. So
Speaker 1: he said that in the Rose Garden and President why
Speaker 1: do you think he was using Arabic wine? Which suddenly
Speaker 1: because that was what shocked most people. Um, I don't know.
Speaker 1: He grew the bear down and try to be just
Speaker 1: like him. And then President Obama was I think in
Speaker 1: his defense, he was surrounded by people that wanted to
Speaker 1: tell him what he wanted to hear. And because I mean,
Speaker 1: I even I meant I mentioned the ten months later
Speaker 1: the Afghanistan thing. We were actually the team over there
Speaker 1: because we're gonna go get him a kaa Pakistan. So
Speaker 1: the same team from Sale Team six, they came to Briefest.
Speaker 1: They had one of Obama's team come into Briefest. Well,
Speaker 1: Bob Bergno, wasn't a deserter. He got left behind it.
Speaker 1: But she's trying to tell us this PC bullshit. I
Speaker 1: was like, when you're like said, stop right now, here's
Speaker 1: what happened. This guy's a deserter. We're gonna get right
Speaker 1: into there, into this hornets and let's just back off
Speaker 1: and let's take a pause here and talk about yeah
Speaker 1: so nuts. So then fast forward to now what we've
Speaker 1: heard about, you know, the sentencing of burg doll And
Speaker 1: and what's not going to be done to him. I
Speaker 1: just wanted to hear he's just he's he's good to go.
Speaker 1: He's just uh, I mean, okay, just with discharge horrible,
Speaker 1: that's bad for you, and he's he's shamed. However, when
Speaker 1: he moves to Portland and someone wants to write a
Speaker 1: fucking so and then he wants to he wants to
Speaker 1: be a hero or the left because just because important
Speaker 1: something something some radically. I mean, we've seen some crazy
Speaker 1: ships something. Chelsea A lives right around here, so there
Speaker 1: might be roommates eventually. Who knows that they kind of
Speaker 1: look alike. I don't know, but I mean that being said,
Speaker 1: I think you know, it's no little thing to hear that,
Speaker 1: and you know, not to harp on this or whatever,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna harp on it that that administration try
Speaker 1: to feed you a narrative. They trying to feed us
Speaker 1: and we knew the deal, but they were feeding it
Speaker 1: to everyone else because that could potentially be politically well.
Speaker 1: How there was Mike Tucson and he was awarded the
Speaker 1: Silver Star because Jimmy got shot. He went through when
Speaker 1: he blasted those two dudes, And I think, yeah, so,
Speaker 1: but yeah, he's a great film. He's awesome. He's awesome.
Speaker 1: You know, I think Mike and Mike and Dog handles
Speaker 1: all at the same I'm kidding, joke, joke, We're allowed
Speaker 1: to joke in narrative, right, we talked about that too early.
Speaker 1: Don't just don't take a snippet and put it on.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, we were talking about that earlier because
Speaker 1: it happened to you early on it happens to all
Speaker 1: of us. So that's why anytime anytime a microphones are fronty,
Speaker 1: you were on a hot mike. Trust me, there's been
Speaker 1: a few when we're not on Facebook Live. It's a
Speaker 1: little different because there's been times Brandon Webb where I'll say,
Speaker 1: you're sure you don't want me to edit that point,
Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, you might be right there, because
Speaker 1: anyone could isolate any quip completely out of context. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about that. Let's I don't know when we talked
Speaker 1: about when you got fucking played out, you know, like
Speaker 1: it was just a casual conversation and a lot of
Speaker 1: the bullshit that conversation. And if a lot of veterans
Speaker 1: out there listening, they'll understand when you sit around and
Speaker 1: have a drink with I don't give a funk. If
Speaker 1: you're a Navy seal, if you're if you're a Marine, Corps, Infantry, Army,
Speaker 1: eighty twond Air Force, whatever you're you're gonna eventually talk
Speaker 1: ship and we're we're with it more. And because I
Speaker 1: mean and beyond some of the best humor in the
Speaker 1: military is the darkest ship you ever here. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: we just had a thing with a hit and mic
Speaker 1: and whatever in this fucking reporter and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, my name gets like I did, especially on
Speaker 1: Fox News in two thousand fourteen, about about the mission
Speaker 1: that killed Bin Laden, and then it came out as
Speaker 1: like Okay, I'm out there bragging about it, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, and then on a Friday night, she's like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm releasing this. She went on CNN, talked about it
Speaker 1: totally out of context, and I was I was just
Speaker 1: just giving jab to someone abody, especially at Delta Force.
Speaker 1: And every time I see anyone from Delta, I will
Speaker 1: apologize on behalf of well just myself to everyone that's
Speaker 1: ever been a cag I'm sorry. You guys are bad.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker's what was said was out of context. Who would
Speaker 1: say that, you know anything that's it's it's almost pain
Speaker 1: That's how we are. We talked, She's painful to bring
Speaker 1: up and the fact that, the fact that and then
Speaker 1: this is what's happening like and this's what we brought
Speaker 1: up before. Like for someone to hear something like that
Speaker 1: without the content that followed me, it's like, you're automatic
Speaker 1: and the preface before it, and I'm just whatever, I
Speaker 1: mean I even mentioned the book that well they did
Speaker 1: take some I shouldn't be saying the boys, but like
Speaker 1: there were times in Iraq like we landed, buy up
Speaker 1: and look over. Hey man, I was actually gonna ask
Speaker 1: you that I got a question, and you know, I
Speaker 1: want you to be honest and answering it, all right,
Speaker 1: because you know, you got a lot of young studs
Speaker 1: out there that are aspiring to walk in your footsteps.
Speaker 1: Who has the best fucking budget, Who has the best gear?
Speaker 1: The best budget's gotta be there that I think CAG does.
Speaker 1: Are you kidding? I think they do? Because now I
Speaker 1: have a theory on this, and I could be wrong
Speaker 1: and I might get some Twitter hate about this. Um,
Speaker 1: CAG is mostly Rangers, like a lot of Rangers, and
Speaker 1: then Rangers are I mean, Rangers are awesome. Not all
Speaker 1: s F dudes are Rangers. No, I got it. But
Speaker 1: most Rangers go to Delta. So rangers, there's more of
Speaker 1: them there. And because they were never SF and some
Speaker 1: of them like pull the purse strings, they get a
Speaker 1: lot of money. Oh that's true. Yeah, yeah, that's why
Speaker 1: we're trying to get him over to Green Tea. And
Speaker 1: I think I think the professionalism is the night and day,
Speaker 1: because you know, we assimilate ourselves Marines, that is, we
Speaker 1: assimilate ourselves to Rangers. Quite often, it wasn't because of
Speaker 1: their professionalism, the same reason why they get the ship
Speaker 1: from the SF community. That's even general Stama Cristal is
Speaker 1: one of the greatest generals of all time. He was
Speaker 1: a Ranger and he was running Jaysuck and so I
Speaker 1: just think a lot of the funding goes uh, goes
Speaker 1: goes there. I mean, I think there's funny in both places.
Speaker 1: You know, I've had my run in with the both types,
Speaker 1: the guys that were eighteen x ray straight into SF
Speaker 1: and then the guys that were Rangers bat Rangers and
Speaker 1: then SF, and there's a difference. There's a huge difference
Speaker 1: in the way they carry themselves. One and I'm not talking,
Speaker 1: I'm not bagging on all fucking at eighteen x RA.
Speaker 1: We're gonna make sure that you are yeah right, you
Speaker 1: don't play that. He keeps it a hunted, you know,
Speaker 1: but you can't take it away. So you know, not
Speaker 1: everybody in on it, but a majority of the guys
Speaker 1: on the x RAY program, like they're still young and
Speaker 1: immature and it's hard for them to deal with responsibility
Speaker 1: they're given in the soul community. That's why, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: why I was like the pipeline from from Buds to
Speaker 1: get to Green Team because you had a certain amount
Speaker 1: of time to get there and mature in the seal.
Speaker 1: But not only that, you're taking guys that generally didn't
Speaker 1: have any prior infantry based weaponeering combative. You know, that's
Speaker 1: a huge one to infantry. And here's people ask me too,
Speaker 1: who's the best foreign special operators with whom I've ever worked?
Speaker 1: Without question, it's the Special Boat Service, the SPS British
Speaker 1: but not the not great but the s B because
Speaker 1: because they need to be Royal Marines, first get that
Speaker 1: infantry background. Then they sent him through and I've had
Speaker 1: great times with that. That might be biased because I
Speaker 1: worked with the basically the British Seals, so I work
Speaker 1: with SPS quite a bit more, um, but just because
Speaker 1: you've given that that infantry, given the intro to it
Speaker 1: and how stuff works, and then send him through the
Speaker 1: heart selection. We're just shooting the shift here though with
Speaker 1: rob but we will take questions after because you know,
Speaker 1: we love to see what you guys have, So if
Speaker 1: you have any questions, definitely shoot those over for rob
Speaker 1: and we'll get to those at the end. Um But
Speaker 1: another newsworthy story of course this past week in the
Speaker 1: Egyptian mosque attack shooting. The killed three hundred five people,
Speaker 1: including twenty seven children. Uh. I mean, from what I
Speaker 1: saw was like the largest shooting and modern history. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is an attack on a Sufi mosque. And for
Speaker 1: those of you who want to delve into the like,
Speaker 1: because you gotta figure the most of them, these the
Speaker 1: most victims of Islamic terrorism are Muslims, and it's because
Speaker 1: they have where the infidels, that's become a common workers,
Speaker 1: a lot of good that to brag about being infidels.
Speaker 1: But then those also the for and the apostate who
Speaker 1: are either hiding what they're doing or they've gone away
Speaker 1: from it. And Sufi because as soon as she had
Speaker 1: the Sufi relays them back to the very beginning and
Speaker 1: that they're like the mystical part of Islam. So they're
Speaker 1: the mystics, which means to a lot of especially the
Speaker 1: Wahaba Sunni, these are the witches and they are definitely
Speaker 1: not part of the same things that they need to
Speaker 1: get rid of them, and that's why and the issue
Speaker 1: to the whole you know, trying to nail jello to
Speaker 1: a wall type thing. So we took out the caliphate
Speaker 1: in Syria. They're spreading now. Egypt is pretty much lawless,
Speaker 1: so is Libya, and there's a lot of places, so
Speaker 1: is so Gium and Somali. That's kind of why they're moving.
Speaker 1: And so they've got a pretty remember the thing in
Speaker 1: in Libyan Egypt with their cutting heads off of the
Speaker 1: Coptic Christians. That's moving there and there to a point
Speaker 1: now there's such a lack of governance they're able to
Speaker 1: as these guys is organized suicide bombers and guns. There's
Speaker 1: people running around with the ICES flag. And this is
Speaker 1: in Egypt now, So this is this I mean, wait,
Speaker 1: wait until Philippines. It's already an in that. But we're
Speaker 1: talking about the continent of Africa and where has been
Speaker 1: the big where has been the most controversy as far
Speaker 1: as operations, Well, Niger recently Niger, But that's the same
Speaker 1: thing because that they're able to spread there because the
Speaker 1: lawless borders and there's not a lot of funding there
Speaker 1: and the locals can't really fight these radical uh J hotties,
Speaker 1: and so they moved into Niger. And you know, I
Speaker 1: mean talking about getting political um when when a lot
Speaker 1: of these uh congressmen were saying, well, we didn't even
Speaker 1: know we had people in Niger. Oh really, you didn't
Speaker 1: know about the base that we funded in yeah fourteen
Speaker 1: to help the French fight in Mali. You didn't know
Speaker 1: about that? So enjoying the Senate or the House on
Speaker 1: Services Committee, how did you not know that? We had
Speaker 1: a really good episode with Derrik Gannon a few ago.
Speaker 1: I think what happened. He was well informed, like he
Speaker 1: broke it downs. Yeah, the US involvement, and it stems
Speaker 1: back to I think he said earlier it was like
Speaker 1: nineteen fifties something, I think fifty two or something. But see,
Speaker 1: the issue is like it's like the the the political
Speaker 1: correct mind of the United States governments. Even the stuff
Speaker 1: in Benghazi. They're thinking, well, well, the ambassador speaks Arabic
Speaker 1: and so we're not fighting Iraq. So but you know,
Speaker 1: this is still this is all part of the levant.
Speaker 1: There's no boarder. They're gonna leave Iraq and they're gonna
Speaker 1: come here and I'll kind of here they're gonna leave Syria,
Speaker 1: They're gonna come here there. It's this is this is
Speaker 1: a global jihad. They don't stop and get their passport stamp,
Speaker 1: and of course they come here and well, you know
Speaker 1: what I think hinders us the most is the fact
Speaker 1: that every four years there's a change over in our
Speaker 1: political affiliation or a political agenda. Everybody appoints their own people,
Speaker 1: everybody puts someone else in the in the Pentagon, they
Speaker 1: put someone else in. And then so for four years
Speaker 1: we're moving towards a goal, and then it's automatically stymied,
Speaker 1: and now we're going towards something that's all political. It's
Speaker 1: all based on party politics. I mean, even even with instability.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been given a brief by the State Department? Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh my god, talk about death by power point. You
Speaker 1: will sit there, there will be a word on are
Speaker 1: you about what word that means? But who are your briefing?
Speaker 1: Who the funk are you briefing? You're briefing the subject
Speaker 1: duty experts on the area. I'm not right at that point.
Speaker 1: I'm tell you've been in and out of that fucking
Speaker 1: country and they're trying to tell you what not to
Speaker 1: do in that goddamn country, and you're just like, are
Speaker 1: you fucking kidding me? I probably got kids in the
Speaker 1: summer home somewhere over here, and you're gonna tell me
Speaker 1: what I'm not doing in this bitch. It's like it
Speaker 1: blows my mind. Right, they think they know what these
Speaker 1: people truly want. This briefing was te years old and
Speaker 1: obviously of course from somewhere and did he like red
Speaker 1: wine by any chance and complain about bumps on the
Speaker 1: road and stuff? And people ask me, why do you
Speaker 1: drink whiskey? This is why I drink um. Last subject
Speaker 1: I want to get to until I take some questions
Speaker 1: from the audience, because you know, we're getting a lot
Speaker 1: of vis once again, shoot us to like share the
Speaker 1: video so we get ability up. And Rob does a
Speaker 1: great job promoting this stuff out because I will say,
Speaker 1: when you like re grammed our software radio, I got
Speaker 1: a ton of new followers because we were we were
Speaker 1: late to the party on Instagram software ratio. It takes
Speaker 1: a while to uh to get to get the followers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Rob's got a great following, so already right, the fact
Speaker 1: that you have to look says that you got a
Speaker 1: super I'm high because my bit task just broke four
Speaker 1: thousand this weekend, so I'm excited. I'm like, I got
Speaker 1: what this month? I probably that's very nice. So anyway,
Speaker 1: the last subject I want to get into, and we'll
Speaker 1: take questions from you guys, So shoot over your questions
Speaker 1: right now. They're watching on YouTube, Facebook, were even on
Speaker 1: which so we're gonna be here for a while, which
Speaker 1: is mainly for gaming, but we're on Twitch and hopefully
Speaker 1: you guys are checking out. Um this is a more
Speaker 1: serious subject, of course, but the death of Staff Sergeant
Speaker 1: Logan J. Melger, the Green Beret killed in Molly, allegedly
Speaker 1: at the hands of two members of Sale Team six.
Speaker 1: Jason and I have discussed this a lot the past,
Speaker 1: probably ten or so episodes, but I figure you being
Speaker 1: a former member that grew. I just wanted to hear
Speaker 1: your take on it, you know. And I like to
Speaker 1: preface this too with I wasn't there. I don't I
Speaker 1: wasn't in the room, I wasn't in the country, I
Speaker 1: wasn't on the continent. Um it you know, they they
Speaker 1: they brought investigators down. They said it's it's a foul
Speaker 1: play for sure. Um, I don't know what they were
Speaker 1: doing I've actually asked guys that were not near but close,
Speaker 1: meaning close to the people. Uh they You know what
Speaker 1: I've heard is um um, you know, fight club gone
Speaker 1: bad or some I don't think it's bad blood with
Speaker 1: even though like we were talking about inner service rivals
Speaker 1: that would never come to that. But I the one
Speaker 1: thing I can say for certain is regardless of what happened,
Speaker 1: this is a big black eye too my former command.
Speaker 1: But I also think too special operations and the military,
Speaker 1: because it's bad enough, especially when we're responsible. It's not
Speaker 1: a war zone, but it is a war zone. We
Speaker 1: gotta be able to um trust each other. And I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean even if this is a uh it obviously
Speaker 1: wasn't a training training thing that went bad. And I
Speaker 1: wish I knew more and I wish I could say
Speaker 1: something good. Yeah, because when it is a training thing
Speaker 1: gone bad, like the recent death, it was more than
Speaker 1: one death of the drowning of a Navy seal during buds,
Speaker 1: Yeah it was more than one. I think it was
Speaker 1: I have to look at but either way you could
Speaker 1: at least you could dismiss that too. You know, it's
Speaker 1: rough training. Yeah, I mean, this is totally different it's inexcusable,
Speaker 1: especially what you guys do. And I wish I knew more. Again, Tom,
Speaker 1: I don't want to convict anybody of it. They were
Speaker 1: very very quick too to say something bad happened. And
Speaker 1: then you know, I mean they had to see I
Speaker 1: D looking into it. Now n C I has to
Speaker 1: looking into it. They're going to reopen the case. I
Speaker 1: think the situation was, and we talked about this before.
Speaker 1: The situation was that the wife was told something from
Speaker 1: the husband, which was staff star mercle wasn't um saying
Speaker 1: that he suspected these individuals of wanting to bring on harm,
Speaker 1: bring harm to him or whatever because of something he discovered.
Speaker 1: But this is just here, Sam, I I don't like. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no one likes hear say, but what I will say
Speaker 1: is um for And I think what's most important to
Speaker 1: take away from this, and this is me personally. Maybe
Speaker 1: you can have a different opinion on this, but for
Speaker 1: those so those of you younger individuals that are planning
Speaker 1: to walk the path that this man walk. Once you're
Speaker 1: in the position where the United States government and whatever
Speaker 1: d O D you're working for trust you enough to
Speaker 1: accept you into that Tier one unit and give you
Speaker 1: the responsibility in which you have to holdheartedly take seriously
Speaker 1: because you're the only representative of that of our government
Speaker 1: in that area or one of the only ones. You
Speaker 1: have to take everything you do seriously. So the fucking around,
Speaker 1: the fun games, the goofing off and all that, you're
Speaker 1: at a different level, completely different level. And something like
Speaker 1: this where there's a disagreement anything from policy just the
Speaker 1: way the basis runt to to who gets a shower win,
Speaker 1: you take it seriously and professionally exactly, and and you
Speaker 1: can work it out, especially with someone who's high levels
Speaker 1: of sealing, a Green Beret working together. Nothing cannot be
Speaker 1: talked out between those two. And I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know what it is. I get it right there.
Speaker 1: I just I it just it makes me sick, and
Speaker 1: that a great man died because of something that happened. Guys,
Speaker 1: just think before you act. You know, I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: that so many times, especially, you know, that was the
Speaker 1: message that I try to put out there as much
Speaker 1: as I can. You know, being that young, vivacious, freaking
Speaker 1: aggressive alpha male that you are when you join these units,
Speaker 1: and when you are as a young a serviceman, you know,
Speaker 1: we kind of have a tendency to have that that
Speaker 1: that fog in our mind, uh basically created or set
Speaker 1: on by aggressiveness and anchor. You know, you have to
Speaker 1: be able to set aside from yourself and say, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe I need to look at this situation differently. And
Speaker 1: you know, because you're the only one with the way
Speaker 1: that I put it out to it is when you
Speaker 1: get something that really makes you mad, you want to
Speaker 1: send back that aggressive email, that aggressive tweet. It's okay
Speaker 1: to type it. Don't hit stent for twenty four hours,
Speaker 1: back up if it's If it's still bad twenty four hours,
Speaker 1: it might be bad enough to hit you. That's great advice.
Speaker 1: So I'll do it all the time. And all my
Speaker 1: Twitter haters please do that to me because I'm starting.
Speaker 1: It's exhausting. It's got a big exhausting want. I kind
Speaker 1: of want to I know, but I want to talk
Speaker 1: about that. But you will get into it after because
Speaker 1: we have a lot of questions from the audience and
Speaker 1: these guys always feel like they're left out, So we
Speaker 1: gotta get Daniel will robbed. Do you believe if more
Speaker 1: NATO nations contributed more troops in Afghanistan that it would
Speaker 1: dramatically change the situation. It appears at times that they
Speaker 1: could be doing more. No, I don't think, no, I
Speaker 1: don't think that putting a lot more troops in Afghanistan's
Speaker 1: gonna solve anything, because like it or not, when with
Speaker 1: regardless of intent, if you're there too long, you're an occupier,
Speaker 1: especially something that's volto as Afghanistan. If the NATO with
Speaker 1: the NATO countries need to do is they start needing,
Speaker 1: start needing, They need to add more of their gross
Speaker 1: domestic product to NATO itself. And we can, well, we can,
Speaker 1: we can perimeter, we can have we can have a
Speaker 1: perimeter defense against certain potential enemies and use one of
Speaker 1: the cores of freedom, which is deterrence. Um, we're gonna
Speaker 1: come to a point where we just need to keep
Speaker 1: people away from us. And uh with with the NATO
Speaker 1: guy's bucking up. I mean you see that when President
Speaker 1: Trump brought it up at the summit, they laughed at
Speaker 1: him like they're not doing their fair share. No, kind
Speaker 1: of laughed at him because why would we when you
Speaker 1: do so straightforward? Yeah, more troops on the ground not
Speaker 1: necessarily good idea here, all right, Thomas gwig Net, I
Speaker 1: might be pronouncing that wrong. What was it like serving
Speaker 1: with Drago, who is a friend of the show. Drago
Speaker 1: is one of my best friends on the planets. Drago
Speaker 1: is one of the toughest guys I've ever met in
Speaker 1: my life. Um I was. I was in my second
Speaker 1: platoon when Drago was in like his I don't know what,
Speaker 1: but and he was a total mentor to me, totally
Speaker 1: loved them. And I would see him do the coolest stuff.
Speaker 1: Like we'd be sitting down and I remember we did
Speaker 1: a fifty click hump. I was carrying a sixty and
Speaker 1: I wouldn't let anyone carry I had five D rounds
Speaker 1: and whatever. And I was kind of looking at it
Speaker 1: and like, hey, Drago, I'm running out of sugar man,
Speaker 1: I need some tang And he's just looking at me.
Speaker 1: Like he reached back without taking his ruck off, grabbed
Speaker 1: it where it was, and like, you know, like he
Speaker 1: was so good at everything. That was so cool. How
Speaker 1: he knew how where his gear was, he knew how
Speaker 1: to do everything. I've also seen him in a bar fight.
Speaker 1: The first move he pulled was kicking a guy in
Speaker 1: the face, which is not my go to. He was
Speaker 1: just like, this is pretty hard, Like men kick him
Speaker 1: in a face and put him down. And he would
Speaker 1: he called me brother Russ, would call me Ross brother Russ.
Speaker 1: Another beer. I'm like, I'm not gonna say no, I don't.
Speaker 1: I'd rather have a drink in my mouth and a
Speaker 1: kick in my Dragos went and he's as of the earth.
Speaker 1: He's also a guy who's always had your back. I know,
Speaker 1: like when there were a lot of people on the attack,
Speaker 1: Drawn was one of those people that's honest. And if
Speaker 1: Dragon thought it was a ship back, he would have
Speaker 1: set it around in the bed. But he because even
Speaker 1: before I've I've seen a couple of interviews where someone
Speaker 1: would suggest something and he didn't instantly cut him off
Speaker 1: because we're gonna draco a ton. You know. I worked
Speaker 1: together straight for three straight years. And then he he
Speaker 1: might not have told you guys this, but when the
Speaker 1: Iraq War started, he kind of vanished and he was
Speaker 1: in Iraq with the grom and he would call he
Speaker 1: would call Seal Team four and ask for me, and
Speaker 1: he's like, I didn't tell them who I was. I'm like,
Speaker 1: who the fund are they thinking? Is it's you? Dude?
Speaker 1: I have heard the stories about them using English speaking
Speaker 1: to the Polish operators and then speaking Polish to the
Speaker 1: English American operator. Draga was a genius. I remember he
Speaker 1: remember a story Brandon was telling. That's where he used
Speaker 1: to call back to the teams. He's like, I need nods.
Speaker 1: We don't have no he could do. So what do you?
Speaker 1: What do you do? What? What are we gonna do
Speaker 1: to this day? I'm hope we're gonna get get together
Speaker 1: soon for a couple of fun regiment. Yeahs salt of
Speaker 1: the Earth. All right, so questioned from our copy editor
Speaker 1: who's also a former Marine Christian processor who gave the
Speaker 1: interview to Esquire, Rob or Mark. Yeah, that was me.
Speaker 1: That's what I believed, and um and I had a
Speaker 1: very good relationship with the primary author. But I was
Speaker 1: very young to the media thing and also never worked
Speaker 1: with a magazine like Esquire. So I wasn't happy with
Speaker 1: the way a lot of ship went down because my
Speaker 1: point of that was trying to do it anonymously to
Speaker 1: say that there should be a retirement of like twelve
Speaker 1: fifteen twenty. I knew I wasn't getting a retirement, and
Speaker 1: it just it should change. And I used it to
Speaker 1: try to lobby Congress and helping vets retire. They kind
Speaker 1: of spun it into him ill looking at him a victim.
Speaker 1: Remember that? Yeah, I mean I still Phil Brownson was
Speaker 1: the author. I love the guy. Um just you didn't
Speaker 1: go and the title the guy that killed and lode
Speaker 1: is screwed first, like you get me right now. They
Speaker 1: took away from your message. So to that, but I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what, that's a that's a that's a that's
Speaker 1: a fall down, You get up, you learned from it.
Speaker 1: I just won't do that again. But to that point,
Speaker 1: I agree, would you. They're that you shouldn't have to
Speaker 1: wait to twenty, especially in this day and age, to retire.
Speaker 1: You know why because there's guys that deployed ten fucking times, yes,
Speaker 1: and they don't want to. They have seen so much
Speaker 1: death and so many of their bud is lost and
Speaker 1: so much ship they're eating day in and day out
Speaker 1: that it becomes impossible for them to do their job
Speaker 1: and they have to walk away because it affects them.
Speaker 1: One good thing about that Esquire article, though, to help
Speaker 1: me launch my foundation. You're a grateful nation. And now
Speaker 1: we transition veterans in the private sector, and we put
Speaker 1: six guys in last week from from the military to
Speaker 1: the private sector. We're talking managery level ship. So that's
Speaker 1: that's something good that came out of So that's a
Speaker 1: good transition. And what's the website You're You're a Greatful
Speaker 1: Nation dot org and all this can be found at
Speaker 1: Robert Neil dot com Robert J. O'Neil dot com. If
Speaker 1: you want to laugh your ass off or get some
Speaker 1: real foreign policy, I can offend this. Um So Joey
Speaker 1: sczari um, Rob what do you think about the role
Speaker 1: that National Guard has been play in the g WAT.
Speaker 1: They play a very incredible role because they're asked to
Speaker 1: you know, they're they're working, uh they're not full time soldiers,
Speaker 1: and then they get has to go out there and
Speaker 1: they're doing straight up bad not bad, but very very
Speaker 1: dangerous suff especially in that rack where they're there are
Speaker 1: the guys in on armed vehicles driving around irish Uma.
Speaker 1: And I tell people this too, like they find it
Speaker 1: hard when I say there are guys in the National
Speaker 1: Guard with a more dangerous job than the operators at
Speaker 1: Seal Team Sex. I'm not lying because we get a
Speaker 1: fight on our terms. We gotta wait till the sun
Speaker 1: goes down. We'll come find you when you're sleeping. These
Speaker 1: dudes are out there. I mean the guys ding the
Speaker 1: first Perimeter Garden buy out back in two thousand five.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're wearing as much sh as you can
Speaker 1: because that suicide bombers coming right yeah, and everybody knows
Speaker 1: and anywhere anywhere you are, whatever country you're in, that
Speaker 1: Ford operating base, that consulate, that embassy. The worst place
Speaker 1: is the game drop that checkpoints. That's the worst place
Speaker 1: because you gotta figure get a speeding vehicle, could be
Speaker 1: a confused mother, could be a suicide bomber. Are you
Speaker 1: gonna shoot or you kill her? Guess what levin worth?
Speaker 1: But more so these these infantry personnel, And I tell
Speaker 1: people all the time, those are the hardest working guys,
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. I don't care how high up
Speaker 1: on the food chain you are, as far special operations,
Speaker 1: you are not putting in more work than straight up
Speaker 1: Well your worth comment is a good transition to this
Speaker 1: next question from Robert E. Murphy. We'll take a handful
Speaker 1: more of these because they're they're good questions. A great stuff. UM.
Speaker 1: A lot of talk about rules of engagement. How have
Speaker 1: strict rules of engagement affected your service? It got to
Speaker 1: the point where it's putting soldiers, marines, special operators in
Speaker 1: danger because I remember in Iraq when we first started fighting,
Speaker 1: we had we had a latitude you can kill this
Speaker 1: many people if it kills a terrorist. And then it
Speaker 1: got to a point, right when I was leaving Afghanistan
Speaker 1: getting in a gunfight, watching them run into a cave
Speaker 1: trying to call in hell fires and they you'd hear
Speaker 1: from someone two hundred miles away burning his lips on coffee,
Speaker 1: which you probably got a purple heart for saying. We're
Speaker 1: not saying there are women and children in that cave
Speaker 1: where we can't prove they're not that. So it got
Speaker 1: really really bad, and I don't need a I don't
Speaker 1: need one of my guys coming. Like when you get
Speaker 1: in c QUB and you're in a live gunfight, target
Speaker 1: identifications very very fast. If you're wondering in that split
Speaker 1: second where you take the shot to the head because
Speaker 1: he might be weren't in vest Wait a minute, what
Speaker 1: if he's gonna kill you? And if it puts Americans
Speaker 1: in danger? And again I have I have a fun
Speaker 1: theory on rules of engagement. The guy that's writing them
Speaker 1: as he's in the talk typing them up, they need
Speaker 1: to have at least two dudes with a k shooting
Speaker 1: at him as he's typing, just so he kind of
Speaker 1: gets a field. I'm gonna transition here to YouTube because
Speaker 1: people are watching on both Facebook and YouTube. Aubrey Curtis, Hey, Rob,
Speaker 1: are you speaking at any events in your home state
Speaker 1: in the near future? I just gave a speech in Butte, Montana, UM,
Speaker 1: and I don't have any plan right now, but I
Speaker 1: usually get back up there. The only issue with saying
Speaker 1: on social media where I'm where and when I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be is I need to front a couple of grand
Speaker 1: for security and are you are you and carrier? And
Speaker 1: then oh yeah, I'm open carrying all of them. And
Speaker 1: then even here in New York, Oh yeah, that's thank you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm always been carry the whole time. But yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: not not in any Montana in the near future. We
Speaker 1: just got back from there, so we're gonna But I
Speaker 1: have a lot of I'm speaking a lot around the country,
Speaker 1: so if you can find a place show up would
Speaker 1: be good. Is your is your licensey just a dumb question.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure they have the questions is your licensee?
Speaker 1: Did you get your licensing through dev grew? No? No, okay,
Speaker 1: this is something you did on your and it's not
Speaker 1: a bad idea too, to try to get deputized in Manhattan.
Speaker 1: Good job. I'm gonna take a couple more and then
Speaker 1: we'll get into some stuff you wanted to and you
Speaker 1: know we'll let you leave when you need to get
Speaker 1: out of here. Good David Johnson, Hey, Rob, what character
Speaker 1: traits should perspective seal candidates developed? It's always an honor
Speaker 1: to hear from you. Thank you for saying that. Humility
Speaker 1: is a big one. Um, don't listen to the loud mouth. Um,
Speaker 1: you're better than you realize. You don't need to project that.
Speaker 1: But just because someone from somewhere else doesn't mean they're
Speaker 1: better than you. And uh. The story that I always
Speaker 1: tell people and this is a no ship or in
Speaker 1: one of my favorite stories to tell. I'll get people
Speaker 1: to come up to me and they say, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: training to be a seal. What should I do to prepare?
Speaker 1: And I'll answer the question with a question, what are
Speaker 1: you doing to prepare? And to say, well, I'm taking
Speaker 1: cold showers every day to get used to it. I'm like,
Speaker 1: stop that right fucking now, because you're what do you mean?
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, let me, let me explain this to you.
Speaker 1: If if you told, if I told you, in thirty days,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kick you in the nuts as hard as
Speaker 1: I can and in order to get ready for it
Speaker 1: every single day, your best friend kicked you in the nuts.
Speaker 1: Guess what, It's gonna fucking suck when I do it,
Speaker 1: So just to embrace it when I do it, don't
Speaker 1: don't try to get used to the cold. Embrace the suck.
Speaker 1: So don't you know, take cold, take warm showers when
Speaker 1: you can't eat, when you can't sleep, when you can
Speaker 1: stay humble, do more pull ups. The thing that your
Speaker 1: book showed me, Um, when I was reading through it
Speaker 1: and I talked about the son on the last time
Speaker 1: that you were here, is that you might not have
Speaker 1: every trait to become a Navy seal. And so the
Speaker 1: thing in your book you talk about you were a
Speaker 1: great shooter, not not a swimmer, much like Brandon Webb,
Speaker 1: and when he was in here had a lot of experience.
Speaker 1: Web a great shooter and not good looking. I'm good,
Speaker 1: but had that was a shot of Brandon for not
Speaker 1: being had a lot of experience, you know, on a boat,
Speaker 1: swimming doing all it wasn't really a shooter became a sniper,
Speaker 1: so you you developed that if you have that mental toughness.
Speaker 1: Brandon was born in the water and he and he
Speaker 1: and he developed being a shooter and became a sniper.
Speaker 1: Instructor which is very impressive too. It's like you're you're
Speaker 1: gonna get to what you're going for just you can.
Speaker 1: You can do anything that you want as lunch. You
Speaker 1: believe in yourself. That's it, and your and your team.
Speaker 1: You know, he helps people think you were crazy, that
Speaker 1: you're not only not a strike bare. I didn't know
Speaker 1: I could keep myself alive. I didn't know an as
Speaker 1: Strokes and uh, I mean some of the advice that
Speaker 1: I got, and I probably mentioned this last time was
Speaker 1: before we started Hell week. I mentioned Instructor A in
Speaker 1: the book. He said, you're about to go to it's
Speaker 1: a mentality. You're about to go to war for the
Speaker 1: first time, and the enemy is all your doubts, all
Speaker 1: your fears, and everyone you know back home that told
Speaker 1: you you weren't good enough to do this, you know,
Speaker 1: keep your head down, keep moving forward no matter what,
Speaker 1: never quit. You're gonna be fine. Because the guy's back
Speaker 1: in Montana. But none of us swim in Montana. Like
Speaker 1: you're joined to be a seal. There's no way you're
Speaker 1: gonna make it. So I think of them, and all
Speaker 1: I gotta do is try to keep your hips up,
Speaker 1: fin as hard as you can and say straight. And
Speaker 1: it worked. And I mean even even going through seal training,
Speaker 1: it was I'm not gonna quit. I'll probably not make
Speaker 1: it because of a swim, but I'm not gonna quit.
Speaker 1: I'll just pass this swim and then whatever, and you
Speaker 1: pass that swim, Okay, passed that swim. I just want
Speaker 1: to clarify because I think it is an injustice to
Speaker 1: some of the people listening right now. They might misconstrue
Speaker 1: what you're saying is by not preparing for the misery
Speaker 1: and not preparing at all. It's no, no, no, it's different.
Speaker 1: If you can, if you can do ups right now,
Speaker 1: get to forty, that's goddamn right. If you if if
Speaker 1: you can run, if you can run a seven in
Speaker 1: a mile, run a six minute mile, definitely get better.
Speaker 1: Just don't do unnecessary like taking a cold shower is
Speaker 1: not going to the misery is something that's deep down
Speaker 1: inside of you. That's that's something that has been said
Speaker 1: so many times before. There's there's nothing to prepare you
Speaker 1: for something that you've never been through. A sense of
Speaker 1: humor will help. Laughing with your buddy, um, stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Don't be the one that's not in shape. Don't definitely
Speaker 1: prepare every way you can't except for the dump ship
Speaker 1: and the like. Little stuff too, us like don't don't
Speaker 1: run on the concrete and boots. You're gonna get a
Speaker 1: chance when a tennis you's get faster, get faster, get
Speaker 1: that cardio. Don't worry about the suck. Suck is your comes.
Speaker 1: Actually that's your mind. That's your mind. The suck is
Speaker 1: gonna come. So here's how nobody owes you anything exactly.
Speaker 1: Here's another on YouTube, Hey Rob, how difficult was Sniper
Speaker 1: School compared to Buds and Green Team? Sniper School was
Speaker 1: a different animal because it it that's another one that's
Speaker 1: hard to prepare for it to you get taught. You
Speaker 1: gott like keeping memory games, You've got the hard What
Speaker 1: I found the most difficult. Sniper school was stalking because
Speaker 1: I grew up hunting hard. I grew up hunting, so
Speaker 1: I thought I was I was arrogant. I know how
Speaker 1: to camouflage myself. No you don't. And so so you've
Speaker 1: got train sniper's looking at you and you've got to
Speaker 1: learn the way. And this is where you learn in life.
Speaker 1: How do how do I ask questions? Find a sniper
Speaker 1: and ask him, um, what did you do? How do
Speaker 1: you do this? How do you set it up? What
Speaker 1: does it look like? Um? So it was, it was
Speaker 1: that was a hard course. I forget how long seals
Speaker 1: Sealsniper like nine weeks or ten weeks, just as long
Speaker 1: as ours was designed of years. Yeah, Carl's hath Kunk
Speaker 1: designed Navy Seal Sniper. Yeah yeah, and um so he
Speaker 1: designed it. It was hard. Oh yeah. The baddest I
Speaker 1: mean not the baddest, Well yeah, he's he's the one
Speaker 1: who aspired to be and the I mean the inspired me.
Speaker 1: You know. But then as you go when you start learning,
Speaker 1: and he was like that, that's a bad I don't
Speaker 1: think that Greg didn't learn from Karlos. I mean the
Speaker 1: same exactly. We're all inspired. But I mean the difference.
Speaker 1: And you know something too that I tell the young
Speaker 1: kids too, is, um, don't forget about math. You need
Speaker 1: to know math. And I was talking, like I said,
Speaker 1: at the high school last week in Montana, and I
Speaker 1: shouldn't said it. I'm talking high schoolcause I was gonna
Speaker 1: chemistry and all the other ship fun that learn math
Speaker 1: and English and physics, and you're gonna do stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: what's one thing I wanted to ask you? Unless you're
Speaker 1: gonna be a chemist? Sorry chemist chemistry, but cook meth?
Speaker 1: What was that line? I heard? Hey, by the way,
Speaker 1: if the if the if the dude deal in your
Speaker 1: meth has all his teeth, he's a cop. You eat yogurt.
Speaker 1: So in your book, you talked about getting out, and
Speaker 1: then you talked about being faced or the reality of
Speaker 1: your disposition on getting out. You were a retired one,
Speaker 1: and we talked about this. You didn't have a your degree, Nope,
Speaker 1: you're fresh from sucking high school. You didn't have no
Speaker 1: real world experience. Where are you now with that? Well,
Speaker 1: now it's in with my foundation, your grateful nation. The
Speaker 1: whole reason that we did that was because Um, I
Speaker 1: learned stuff in the Navy that prepared me for the
Speaker 1: private sector, which is um. A lot of these employers
Speaker 1: they're tired of people coming out of college with a
Speaker 1: degree but no loyalty. And that's why you're gratefully so
Speaker 1: successful because a lot of veterans, they have all these
Speaker 1: trades and and a lot of these companies say we, um,
Speaker 1: we're gonna we want those trades. We'll teach you the job,
Speaker 1: and we've got You're great not a tradition, but promotion
Speaker 1: rate because of the people were sending them, because that's
Speaker 1: what you learn in the military. You get these skills
Speaker 1: you can't teach in the classroom. I gave a speech
Speaker 1: to a bunch of professors to the day and I said,
Speaker 1: I said, let's get something straight right now. Um, saying
Speaker 1: you have experience because you went to college is like
Speaker 1: saying you're not hungry because you memorize the menu. You
Speaker 1: gotta get out there and do it. And especially war
Speaker 1: combat faces, they have those skills that. So I'm in
Speaker 1: a place now where I'm able to talk for more
Speaker 1: on policy on Fox News, not because I got a degree.
Speaker 1: I've been to eighty countries. I've talked to the locals,
Speaker 1: I've lived with the locals, I've purchased houses in Jelalapa.
Speaker 1: I want to take one more question from the audience
Speaker 1: and then we'll get back to your I mean, we
Speaker 1: have a ton of them, but I figured this is
Speaker 1: one good last one and one but the both of
Speaker 1: you could answer honestly. Uh, Andrew Thurston, what is your
Speaker 1: favorite rifle that a civilian can own? Good question. I'm
Speaker 1: a huge fan of the the Air fifteen. If you're
Speaker 1: gonna if you're gonna shoot some automatic, I'd like the
Speaker 1: Air fifteen. Um. I just I'm so familiar with the
Speaker 1: operating system. If you're gonna hunt anything, Uh, probably Uh, Jason,
Speaker 1: hands down, depending on what you're using it for. I
Speaker 1: agree with him whole hardy on both, Like if it's
Speaker 1: home defense, if it's just getting down and fucking grinding,
Speaker 1: me a R fifteen because there's so many parts for it,
Speaker 1: so many aftermarket kits for it that you can buy. Um,
Speaker 1: the round can be found anywhere in the world. I mean,
Speaker 1: it is the all arise of petroleum, the petroleum jelly
Speaker 1: of weapons home defend. And so though any pump action shotgun,
Speaker 1: that's true because and and don't keep one in the
Speaker 1: pipe because you want to make that detern no preference
Speaker 1: though in terms of Remington's but um benelli for But
Speaker 1: but you need that sound because I don't give a
Speaker 1: fun if I if I was breaking into a house
Speaker 1: with with like an K four sixteen and I heard
Speaker 1: that I'm leaving, it's it's and everyone knows what it is.
Speaker 1: You don't mistake that sound. It's like, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you you don't have to be accurate with a twelve uh,
Speaker 1: especially in close quarters before we get some stuff you
Speaker 1: wanted to ask. You know what I think is kind
Speaker 1: of cool And I mentioned this son, I've mentioned this
Speaker 1: before on on previous podcasts with both of you, But
Speaker 1: like I'm looking at you right now. You have the
Speaker 1: nine eleven commemoration tattoos on your arm, and then I
Speaker 1: will get Jason, who's got which you know what is
Speaker 1: the statue of Saddam there? And it's cool because it's
Speaker 1: like there's so much history between both of you in
Speaker 1: the room we took it down. You were there when
Speaker 1: the Saddam statue was taken down, and you were there
Speaker 1: for the killing of Osana bin Watten. I mean, just
Speaker 1: such amazing history and I think it's kind of cool.
Speaker 1: That you guys have commemorated that. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: don't already know Jason's tattoo artists. So it's like, I
Speaker 1: think that's a that's a pretty cool thing to be
Speaker 1: able to commemorate. To me, it's just my Rosetta stone,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Something that if someone was
Speaker 1: six zoo my body when I was dead. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's no just fucking look at my ink and you
Speaker 1: know where the hell I've been, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's just the way I see it,
Speaker 1: you know, I I wear my heart on my sleeve. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good line. My my just started off as
Speaker 1: a small one and then it just turned to you know,
Speaker 1: stay in the name before while getting more and more
Speaker 1: and just turning into like all career stuff. Have you
Speaker 1: ever gotten tattooed by sniper? Though? No, okay, let me
Speaker 1: do it. I can't. I can't. But whenever you fly
Speaker 1: back in, hey, man, come on you. I don't want
Speaker 1: to say where you live now, because you know it's
Speaker 1: probably people that I don't want to ask. Man, you know,
Speaker 1: on that note that hold on, let me finish my thought.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to say where he lives because it's
Speaker 1: probably people after him anyway, So segue too, are they
Speaker 1: people after I don't know. Um, I get a lot
Speaker 1: of help with some federal agencies that monitor um social media.
Speaker 1: They do it just because they want they're doing it
Speaker 1: because the right thing to do. And and and uh
Speaker 1: I got personal security, my own stuff that I don't
Speaker 1: get into ever. Um you know, we you know, we
Speaker 1: don't we don't say exactly what, but now we're I mean,
Speaker 1: we're good. I got I got dudes that I'm just
Speaker 1: texting one of the America taking care. You know, you
Speaker 1: got to take care those protecting They're good. My security
Speaker 1: guys are great. Everywhere I go, I do uh an
Speaker 1: advance and have local law enforcement, and they're awesome. Local
Speaker 1: cops are but local cops are the best, especially like
Speaker 1: around New York DC. Uh Now, they don't play no games.
Speaker 1: You feel safe over sixty tho police officers and the goods,
Speaker 1: the thousand Patriots, sixty dudes that still have a little
Speaker 1: bit of a beef they want to sux somebody up. Yeah, nothing,
Speaker 1: but growing up, I had, you know, my problems with them,
Speaker 1: but that was also self inflicted because I grew up
Speaker 1: on the wrong side, you know, And obviously you know
Speaker 1: I had my run ins with them. But now being
Speaker 1: that I'm where I'm at now, you know, I get
Speaker 1: so much support from like and it's so crazy to
Speaker 1: me right now because those are the guys that to
Speaker 1: this day in my own fucking city, I could probably
Speaker 1: relate to more the guys that I grew up with.
Speaker 1: That's crazy because every day they're putting their life on
Speaker 1: the line, and they'll do it day in and day out.
Speaker 1: So I can see why you feel comfortable over here,
Speaker 1: and that's good. That's good. And you know what, and
Speaker 1: I'll tell anybody that thinks you don't need it, funk off.
Speaker 1: He needs it. This guy fucking killed Osama bin Laden.
Speaker 1: You know how many punk ass cowards are out there.
Speaker 1: You know it's messed up too, is It's not even
Speaker 1: the Hoti, it's the guy that wants fifteen minutes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that like that weirdo that drove the fucking uh the
Speaker 1: home Depot cars radicalized. I can just be my mission now,
Speaker 1: because you're balking up the wrong tree, You're gonna get murdered. Well,
Speaker 1: I didn't have I had a buddy in my didn't
Speaker 1: interview one time Andy Stunt, They asked him, what about
Speaker 1: the risk your family, and he said, anyone who comes
Speaker 1: to my house with my family, come get some just
Speaker 1: come get something. Love that line, and he's a bad dude.
Speaker 1: I don't think you guys are ready. They're not ready.
Speaker 1: I they're not ready. It is a thought, but it's
Speaker 1: not it's not it's not gonna it's not gonna run
Speaker 1: ruined or run my life. So that's that's pretty it's
Speaker 1: pretty crazy. And I could imagine the weight you have
Speaker 1: on your shoulders. You know, I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 1: To me, it is like I would often stand aside
Speaker 1: from myself and just look back and say, fuck, I'm
Speaker 1: that guy. Yeah, I mean, I mean, moments have you
Speaker 1: had like I've made peace with it. It's you know,
Speaker 1: it's crazy, That's what it is. I was a part
Speaker 1: of a team and I turned the corn that was destiny. Bro,
Speaker 1: you were bread foot at ship. You was meant for that. Man.
Speaker 1: Oh seriously, I gotta tell you, Evan your book hands
Speaker 1: you had a co author, right, No, this is you know.
Speaker 1: I was able to work with I. I had help
Speaker 1: from Tom Schroeder, I had help with a lot of editors,
Speaker 1: from us, from Scribner. But that's my a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff that I was writing, a lot of my I
Speaker 1: will say this, you you strategically humbled yourself in the book,
Speaker 1: but I will say this from the outside looking in,
Speaker 1: you didn't have to. And that's just me cut straight
Speaker 1: through it. You're a bad motherfucker man, and just anybody
Speaker 1: that wants to see the path or the blueprint to
Speaker 1: getting to where this man is. And and like he said, okay,
Speaker 1: the shooting of the Osama bin laden, that's not something
Speaker 1: you could plan for guys. Okay, that's just that's one
Speaker 1: of those things we talked about. Right place, right time,
Speaker 1: you know, um or we call it right place, wrong time,
Speaker 1: because you know, nobody wants to be in a fucking firefight,
Speaker 1: but you're there and you wound up doing and that's
Speaker 1: what messed up things people think they want to until
Speaker 1: they get, until they get I mean, one of the
Speaker 1: one of the best mab to see on the internet too,
Speaker 1: iscause everybody wants to be a gangster. Entel's time to
Speaker 1: dogs ship and I love that. That's one of my
Speaker 1: first sucking. That's true, it's scary, it's it's very fucking true,
Speaker 1: and I think scary and I'm serious, Like I've read
Speaker 1: a lot of books and reading reading I read a
Speaker 1: lot because of the show and and reading his book
Speaker 1: is like, man, you're you're You're up there with the
Speaker 1: guys that you praise, like anybody that's gotten to the
Speaker 1: level you got into and then done the things you've done. Man,
Speaker 1: I mean, you were present during the fucking m the
Speaker 1: Captain Phillips whole situation, Like you were there living in
Speaker 1: that moment. My mind. You you probably weren't in the situation,
Speaker 1: but that was your space untime, that's my but that
Speaker 1: was your bubble. You were in there. You you weren't,
Speaker 1: you weren't Johnny with the kill, but you were there.
Speaker 1: And then Osama bin Lad and you were there and
Speaker 1: then all that other fucking ship fucking leading up to
Speaker 1: this moment, Like you were there and it was a
Speaker 1: perfect transition into where you are. You know, to this day,
Speaker 1: I think, honest, Slee, it's it's pretty overwhelming for me
Speaker 1: to sit here next to someone like this. I gotta
Speaker 1: tell you, all right, you you you one of the
Speaker 1: guys I look up to and say awesome, and well,
Speaker 1: this couldn't have been better. Great, interview. I appreciate great
Speaker 1: questions to anything big that you're promoting right now. I know,
Speaker 1: as you said, um, your foundation, if foundation, your great
Speaker 1: foundation dot org. I'm obviously promoting the book The Operator,
Speaker 1: which is still doing amazing, really well. And I read
Speaker 1: the audio, so if h oh it's your voice, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm reading the audio. By the way, those of you
Speaker 1: guys due the first. The first guy that read my
Speaker 1: audio book destroyed it. I'd say this to this day.
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk. He butchered it. And how
Speaker 1: many people could sound like yeah, people brought at that point.
Speaker 1: He was at a disadvantage from the beginning because he's
Speaker 1: some white dude in an accent. He's not a Puerto
Speaker 1: Rican guy from the prompt So, um, turns out I
Speaker 1: went in, I read the first chapter last week, um,
Speaker 1: and it was just gonna be that and then somebody
Speaker 1: else is gonna read it. After that, they were like, dude,
Speaker 1: you need to read the whole book and it takes time. Yes,
Speaker 1: when you read the precace on the podcast her and
Speaker 1: they thought the same thing over at the publisher. So
Speaker 1: when I learned reading the book too is just slow
Speaker 1: down and like open your mouth wider than you think
Speaker 1: it needs to be and they can hear everything you
Speaker 1: say and just and you got to read your I mean,
Speaker 1: you read the whole book. But the best thing is
Speaker 1: you get to emphasize. You want to put what you
Speaker 1: need to be, like the story of what to do
Speaker 1: with the RPG in the back. Some other dude can't
Speaker 1: say that comical ship, Dude, Like when I read it out,
Speaker 1: I laughed, I died. I think people were staring at
Speaker 1: me in my tattoo show, like what the he laughing at?
Speaker 1: Like I couldn't even explain it to them, Like, dude,
Speaker 1: this guy literally died and didn't die and didn't have
Speaker 1: to scratch. It's like some loony tu and ship. So
Speaker 1: the website is Robert J. O'Neill, Robert oh and E
Speaker 1: I l L thanks to Shaquille, that name has been
Speaker 1: butchered and on Twitter, on Instagram and n I can't
Speaker 1: say enough that we appreciate you coming back and you
Speaker 1: want to do it again. But there's always gonna be
Speaker 1: stuff to talk about. Yeah, the fact that you're, you know,
Speaker 1: slowly becoming a regular on the show good and you're
Speaker 1: in New York City, so it just makes sense certainly
Speaker 1: cool anything else before you get out of here, and
Speaker 1: I think you want to get to the audience or
Speaker 1: there's a lot of those aspiring seals out there who
Speaker 1: listen to this. I'm sure, I'm sure it's what point? What?
Speaker 1: What's like that one last point? Or you can give them.
Speaker 1: I guess, um. I cannot stress positivity enough. I cannot
Speaker 1: stress um even with the generation is now coming up
Speaker 1: through high school, whatever, the cyber bullying bullshit, just don't
Speaker 1: even have a part of it. Um that negativity, because
Speaker 1: it's gonna feed into your head and you're gonna start
Speaker 1: to believe the nonsense. Surround yourself with positive people, believe
Speaker 1: in yourself, and you don't get negative back. Like people
Speaker 1: wanted to see something in some negative coming, we'll get
Speaker 1: negative back. Just get away from that ship and two
Speaker 1: more poems, do a hell of Velet see what's kind
Speaker 1: of like all of them, all of them. Pull yourself
Speaker 1: up to something and then put yourself down and do
Speaker 1: it again. Just learn how to manage your weight. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: that's what's up. I'm sorry, so do I appreciate it? Man,
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