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Speaker 1: On Time on Target episode three hundred five. Navy Seal
Speaker 1: Steve Rolston is back in studio for a full episode.
Speaker 1: I mean in Scotto, Jason Delgado with there anything going
Speaker 1: here to talk as much nonsense to us? Um So, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: what have you been up to? People are probably just
Speaker 1: wondering because you I think I mentioned this on the
Speaker 1: last show that you were on, but you're You've been
Speaker 1: kind of a friend of the website, friend of Brandon's
Speaker 1: and Jason for a while, But that was the first
Speaker 1: time we've ever had on other than doing inside the
Speaker 1: team room. Yeah. I've been friends with Brandson for over
Speaker 1: ten years. I've been friends with Jason for coming up
Speaker 1: on two years now. I think what I've been doing
Speaker 1: since When was the last time I was on I
Speaker 1: don't remember, just a couple of weeks, A couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: I do. Get told you before. I do safety and
Speaker 1: security consultant in the city, and I've had surveillance progects
Speaker 1: going on, surveillance projects going on. I also worked for
Speaker 1: private companies. I make sure they're mechanics and their other
Speaker 1: engineering staff are doing what they're supposed to. So I
Speaker 1: basically crawl around buildings looking for guys that work for
Speaker 1: these companies and make sure they're doing they're supposed to,
Speaker 1: whether that's tearing out heavy equipment or security officers or
Speaker 1: whatever it is. Been running around the city checking out
Speaker 1: new buildings. You put a hard hat on, and you
Speaker 1: put a hard head on and walk around like you
Speaker 1: know where you're going. You can go anywhere, and it's true.
Speaker 1: You put a glow vest on, reflective vest in a
Speaker 1: hard hat and no one questions you that in the
Speaker 1: clipboard and you're going fucking wherever you want. That's really smart.
Speaker 1: I feel like, is like, is that something that you
Speaker 1: learned along the way of doing this, or yes, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's a hide plain site. Yeah, medium height, medium
Speaker 1: build I look like everybody else, And if I got
Speaker 1: a hard head on in a glow vest, I'm supposed
Speaker 1: to be there as far as everyone's concerned. So I
Speaker 1: just go wherever the hell I want, basically, which you know,
Speaker 1: that's an interesting thing because I've said this before. It
Speaker 1: makes me wonder, like, do you think a lot of
Speaker 1: the money spent on security for these big buildings in
Speaker 1: New York City, Like a lot of it is wasted
Speaker 1: because we have so much. You know, there's high security
Speaker 1: when you go to like serious sex them as you've
Speaker 1: gone Fox And what you just said, I think is
Speaker 1: is like a pretty practical thing. You walk in there
Speaker 1: like you own the place. No one's gonna say anything. Well,
Speaker 1: a lot of the dorman will stop you. However, if
Speaker 1: you wait for the higher traffic areas and just give
Speaker 1: him a nod and move fast, they won't stop you.
Speaker 1: Step in the elevator like you know what they're doing,
Speaker 1: or hit the wave to the doorman and push at
Speaker 1: the turnstiles and point at the turnstiles and they'll just
Speaker 1: wave you through. What's like the craziest building that you've
Speaker 1: gotten access to. I can't tell you. I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to be just you might need it again. I'm being
Speaker 1: paid to do this, and I do sign non disclosures,
Speaker 1: and I'm test security for companies and I'm making sure
Speaker 1: the staff are doing what they're supposed to and I
Speaker 1: write reports and charge by the hour, so if I
Speaker 1: can get in and out of a building, I'm catching
Speaker 1: all on body cam. So so a lot of people
Speaker 1: have probably gotten fired thanks to you. No not, that's
Speaker 1: a little bit extreme annoying that, especially in New York,
Speaker 1: you're so heavily protected because it's it's so heavily run
Speaker 1: by the unions. So you write a report and then
Speaker 1: if there's any type of disciplinary action it has to
Speaker 1: take place, then the individual be caught in and they
Speaker 1: would sit down for a counseling session and then they
Speaker 1: would just have discussion. I want to get into the
Speaker 1: whole origin story of you and your time with the
Speaker 1: Seals and all that you know, more in depth than
Speaker 1: we did last time. But first I think this would
Speaker 1: appeal to both you guys didn't even give you this yet,
Speaker 1: but um soft rep dot Radio at soft rep dot
Speaker 1: com I thought this was a good one and both
Speaker 1: of you guys could probably your input on this. Um. Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: love the podcast, mostly hearing the nobs opinions of educated
Speaker 1: and experienced professional you're laughing at educated. They obviously don't
Speaker 1: know me very well, but whatever. I was wondering if
Speaker 1: you guys could talk a little bit about the role
Speaker 1: of physicians and special ops. I've heard of programs such
Speaker 1: as s O s T, which, by the way, for
Speaker 1: the waymns like myself, what does that stand for? You
Speaker 1: guys know s T. Yeah, I don't know that acronym. Now,
Speaker 1: maybe special operations surgeons or something like that. All right,
Speaker 1: I may have to do some google and no idea.
Speaker 1: I've never heard of it either, so he said through
Speaker 1: the Air Force. But was curious as to any experiences
Speaker 1: you've had or heard of with physicians. What role do
Speaker 1: docs have in the community beyond providing training or acting
Speaker 1: as consultants for rescue teams like the PJAS. Thanks, and
Speaker 1: that's from Sid. I don't know anything really about the
Speaker 1: pj's and we had so many eighteen deltas with us.
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are incredibly highly trying and they
Speaker 1: go to different labs where they have to work on
Speaker 1: every type of wound you can imagine, and they are
Speaker 1: a lot of our corman will actually go to hospitals
Speaker 1: and do intern work also, so as far as your
Speaker 1: ship has to be pretty fucked up to see a
Speaker 1: regular doctor. So I haven't had any experience with regular
Speaker 1: doctors other than on the basis and things like that. Well,
Speaker 1: and we had to experience with them with a Naval
Speaker 1: Experimental Divunitt doctors because they told us we were doing
Speaker 1: things that supposedly we weren't. You're not physiologically possible by
Speaker 1: long dives and cold water and things like that. But
Speaker 1: I never had I never had a sucking chest wound
Speaker 1: or had to pull up harmonica out of my rectum
Speaker 1: or anything. So anything. As far as the Marine Corps
Speaker 1: is concerned, our medics are. They're organic to the Navy.
Speaker 1: So they come over their corman we call them. They
Speaker 1: come over to the Marine Corps and they do everything
Speaker 1: the Marines do. Um as they move along in their
Speaker 1: um in their career, you know, they're tackling a lot
Speaker 1: of the toughest schools we have, like you know, um,
Speaker 1: you know they go to reconnaissance school. You know a
Speaker 1: r S and they go to you know, they'll do everything.
Speaker 1: They become sarks if they get into MARSK, you know,
Speaker 1: and their their program is it's really grouling. And on
Speaker 1: top of that they get to do like they jump
Speaker 1: the dives, they get to do the sniper school. So
Speaker 1: I mean they're just in the Navy by name, but
Speaker 1: they're truly Marines now when they get out. You know,
Speaker 1: a lot of these medics they continue on in the
Speaker 1: field of trauma medicine and they get they become e
Speaker 1: m t s and then they move on and get
Speaker 1: all these certifications. They'll work overseas for contractors as well,
Speaker 1: because they get paid very well, upwards of like six
Speaker 1: sixty six seventy a day and from from there, yeah,
Speaker 1: no ship. From there, they they ask their money and
Speaker 1: build these agencies where they go when they provide trauma
Speaker 1: medicine and stuff like that to companies corporations are asking
Speaker 1: for it um And also they get on these websites
Speaker 1: where they bid for the government contracts and they're they're
Speaker 1: teaching d A trauma medicine and stuff like that. So yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of the high threat jobs
Speaker 1: out there. The medics. Most of the medics that come
Speaker 1: come over and teach their programs are eighteen deltas most
Speaker 1: more than likely or you know SARK medics or Navy
Speaker 1: medics and stuff like that. By the way, Uh, I
Speaker 1: just looked it up on It's it's at a f
Speaker 1: dot mill s O s T is Special Operations Surgical Teams.
Speaker 1: Makes sense. Yeah, you did say, I said surgeon close enough?
Speaker 1: So yeah, Keithiels coming soft rep dot radio at soft
Speaker 1: rep dot com. Um and remember all the negative you have,
Speaker 1: remember Steve's and asshole. I don't think that's good. I
Speaker 1: want to hear about it. I hope, I hope it does. Um.
Speaker 1: So the only two news stories to really get into
Speaker 1: I feel like really quick. One. We were watching the
Speaker 1: video earlier of a general from Bosnia slobed in pral
Speaker 1: Jacques or I don't know how to say it. Uh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he drank poison after being sence to twenty years for
Speaker 1: war crimes, and you were commenting on him shaking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he's a pussy if he's he if he's
Speaker 1: guilty of ordering his men to exterminate a large amount
Speaker 1: of humans, and he's shaken like that when he's drinking
Speaker 1: poison because he's going to die. And he's a coward.
Speaker 1: You know, he ordered those guys to do the dirty
Speaker 1: work he didn't want to do. He should have been
Speaker 1: a man who put a pistol in his mouth and
Speaker 1: ended it, you know, to sit during shake because you're afraid.
Speaker 1: You're talking about the trembling he did right before, so
Speaker 1: he knew he was about it. He knew he was
Speaker 1: going to die, and he's afraid of it. And I
Speaker 1: guess he just smuggled that into the courtroom. Well, if
Speaker 1: you're the only thing they're looking for his metal, right,
Speaker 1: so you're not gonna get a knife or a gun
Speaker 1: or anything. Like we talked about Bud Dlyer right after that.
Speaker 1: The only reason he did what was he a congressman
Speaker 1: or what was Yeah, he's embezzling, right, So he pulled
Speaker 1: the pistol while the envelopen and right there in front
Speaker 1: of God in the whole world. But it was a
Speaker 1: big pistol. Yeah, it's three seven magnum. He wasn't playing around,
Speaker 1: But this cat, I mean, think about it. You have
Speaker 1: people take visine, people take their medicine and stuff in
Speaker 1: courtrooms and if it's a glass bottle. It's almost impossible
Speaker 1: to detect. You have to you have to have somebody
Speaker 1: pat the guy down. I'm thinking you have to go
Speaker 1: through a full skin or not that Where was that
Speaker 1: was that? The Is it Brussels or well the general
Speaker 1: from Bosnia? Now? Where was the court? That was? The
Speaker 1: international courts? My thinking that they probably treat him with
Speaker 1: a certain type of esteem to you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: although he's up on these charge and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: I mean, they're probably giving him some being lenient with him,
Speaker 1: you know, as far as you know, checking him and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. So I'd imagine I don't know, but
Speaker 1: killing yourself like that does that? I mean to me,
Speaker 1: he says he's guilty and he's kill he knew what
Speaker 1: he did what he did. Say Where the international court
Speaker 1: was Belgium, Brussels? Yeah, I guess not, oh well, but
Speaker 1: still that's that's just my opinion. He was afraid of
Speaker 1: the twenty years. He wanted to kill himself. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's some cowardly stuff. It's the Dutch police so in
Speaker 1: Holland then yeah, interesting stuff. Yeah, I I don't know
Speaker 1: anything else about it. It did what do you think
Speaker 1: was in there though, because it's you know, it's actually
Speaker 1: a pretty hard thing to come up with a concoction
Speaker 1: that's gonna kill you on the spot, like that rat poison.
Speaker 1: You just crush it up and then liquefy it. And
Speaker 1: know that, especially over there overseas, you can buy whatever,
Speaker 1: any anything. It could have been a large quantity of morphine.
Speaker 1: It could have been any heavy narcotic, a large quantity
Speaker 1: an arconic like that narcotic pardon me, especially in liquid form,
Speaker 1: it will kill you. It'll just put you to sleep,
Speaker 1: but let's still kill you. Yeah, I know, most places overseas,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's it's you can consider it
Speaker 1: quote unquote black market, but you can go to a
Speaker 1: freaking pharmacy and purchase anything over the counter. And that's
Speaker 1: and that's why they don't have the drug problems we
Speaker 1: do because it's so available. It's available, and there's no
Speaker 1: stigma around it, and there's no black market, so there
Speaker 1: isn't a large organized crime syndicate and there's no money
Speaker 1: spent to combat it. Although I feel like here the
Speaker 1: prescription stuff like Purkose said and vicing in and all
Speaker 1: that is pretty readily available due to the pharmaceutical industry
Speaker 1: and the doctors. The doctor's writing prescriptions like it's water,
Speaker 1: like it's candy, right, And that's exactly. And remember we've
Speaker 1: been at war for seventeen years, so you not just
Speaker 1: excuse me, not just the veterans, but there's large, a
Speaker 1: large percentage of the population is addicted to an arcotic
Speaker 1: pain medication because they don't want to be uncomfortable, so
Speaker 1: they'll do anything to get out of that discomfort. And
Speaker 1: the next thing you know, you're addicted to it and
Speaker 1: you'll do anything to get it. And these people farm doctors.
Speaker 1: One of the other surveillance projects I have are people
Speaker 1: that make these false claims against companies, and Jason's worked
Speaker 1: on some of these projects, so will go to some
Speaker 1: of these undesirable locations and put up urban hide in videotape.
Speaker 1: These people doing things they can't supposedly can't do, and
Speaker 1: the majority of these times when they're doing that stuff,
Speaker 1: they're also farming these doctors who have six or seven
Speaker 1: different doctors prescribing in pain medication and they have a crazy,
Speaker 1: a crazy narcotic addiction. I'm not saying they're bad people
Speaker 1: because they have an addiction, but that's what happens and
Speaker 1: what I what I often see and although that is
Speaker 1: the case that they're claiming in which they're incapacitated or
Speaker 1: are limited in their daily activities, and then we can
Speaker 1: catch on playing basketball or carrying paint cans over their head,
Speaker 1: but it's normal life stuff. But that that that compensation
Speaker 1: allows them to live this routine where it's a drug
Speaker 1: induced routine. It's a routine of irresponsible spending. And so
Speaker 1: you see it because you're following these people around all
Speaker 1: day and it's like, wow, we're paying for this. You know,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's pretty ridiculous, and you all those I'm
Speaker 1: not going to give any of those scumbag attorneys a
Speaker 1: plug here, but what's some television sometimes you see Have
Speaker 1: you been injured doing this? Have you been injured doing that?
Speaker 1: Do you have a claim against this? Do you have
Speaker 1: a claim against that? So you have I don't want
Speaker 1: to say, you have a very large number of individuals
Speaker 1: who go out and they make these false claims and
Speaker 1: they think that they hit the lottery because New York
Speaker 1: just pays them and these insurance companies. I actually worked
Speaker 1: for a company who the company substantial enough that it
Speaker 1: is actually in a fight with an insurance company because
Speaker 1: this insurance company, at one point in time, I had
Speaker 1: an over fifty cases and this insurance company just flat
Speaker 1: out and said we're gonna we are going to settle
Speaker 1: them all. And that's a that's a big number. And
Speaker 1: these these commercials are talking about they often air like
Speaker 1: when everybody is all the time, because they're appealing to
Speaker 1: the people sitting on their asks that don't want to
Speaker 1: work exactly right, and especially in New York, it's because
Speaker 1: it's so heavily unionized, and and they're they're just afraid
Speaker 1: of the work. They're afraid of the work that it's
Speaker 1: gonna take to to actually go to trial or go
Speaker 1: to see, you know, bring the case in front of
Speaker 1: a judge, and they just they're afraid of the possibility
Speaker 1: of losing. So to them, it makes more sense to
Speaker 1: pay out a higher dollar a month than it would
Speaker 1: to hire people to debunk the claims. Confusing. And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying the unions are a bad thing, because they're
Speaker 1: they're protecting a lot of the blue color workers, and
Speaker 1: I think that's a good thing. But my point is,
Speaker 1: these people see the normal population going to work and
Speaker 1: they get angry about that, so they see, how can
Speaker 1: I get somebody to take care of me? And and
Speaker 1: I don't the it's it happens to a certain percentage
Speaker 1: of the population where they get used to the government subsidies,
Speaker 1: they get used to not having to go to school,
Speaker 1: they get used to not having to go to work,
Speaker 1: and the word passes like wildflowers, pardon me, like wildfire
Speaker 1: that you get injured somewhere, you fake it, You go
Speaker 1: to court and you get a check, fraternity get that money,
Speaker 1: and it goes down like nobody's business. And I don't
Speaker 1: want to say I'm happy it goes down, but I
Speaker 1: am because we're out there fighting a good fight, because
Speaker 1: we we both have friends that are fucking damaged from war,
Speaker 1: missing ship. And those guys aren't taking a dime. They're going,
Speaker 1: I mean, pardon me, they're getting whatever checks are getting
Speaker 1: because you know they're obviously they're missing things, and they
Speaker 1: go to the v A to get whatever service they need.
Speaker 1: But they're not parasites. You know, they're out there working
Speaker 1: their their entrepreneurs, doing the right thing the right way
Speaker 1: all day every day. I take this personally. You see
Speaker 1: most of the guys that we have coming from our
Speaker 1: our you know, um our past or our walks of life.
Speaker 1: And you know some of these people are missing appendages, missing,
Speaker 1: you know, arms life, and you know they get their conversation,
Speaker 1: but you don't see him at home lying around doing nothing.
Speaker 1: You know. I don't want to say none of them
Speaker 1: do that. You know, probably one of those because they
Speaker 1: think stuff to work out in their hot you know,
Speaker 1: but most of them. You see him, you know, on
Speaker 1: Instagram all the time at a cross fit, Jim leg
Speaker 1: Diesel as hell. Know there's a guy in respect you had,
Speaker 1: Derek Weta d E R E K w E I
Speaker 1: d A. He's a he's an army guy. He's missing
Speaker 1: leg and uh he's you see him on Instagram. He's
Speaker 1: a freaking animal. You ever see Noah Galloway, He's missing limb.
Speaker 1: He's you know, on the cover of like bodybuilding magazine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a beast. Yeah, there's a lot of these guys
Speaker 1: are doing the right thing the right way, and it's
Speaker 1: gonna segue. I was in Austin, Texas over Thanksgiving and
Speaker 1: I've been trolling this guy on Instagram for a while,
Speaker 1: guy named West Whitlock. It's at w E S, Underscore,
Speaker 1: whitlock w H I T L O c K. He's
Speaker 1: got Rogue American apparel and Invader coffee. He's got a
Speaker 1: but he helps a bunch of vets, and he's got
Speaker 1: a guy out there. I think it's delicious. J is
Speaker 1: his Instagram thing. This guy's he's missing a leg, dead
Speaker 1: lifting two and ninety pounds one leg. He doesn't even
Speaker 1: use his his his prosthesis. But the vast majority of
Speaker 1: our guys that have spent some time down range and
Speaker 1: got injured and came back, they're killing it. And and
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, there's some guys that are that
Speaker 1: are hurt and they have some other situations to deal with,
Speaker 1: you know. There. But if those guys do take the
Speaker 1: medication to do talk to their doctors, and they do
Speaker 1: reach out to their brothers, I mean, they get through
Speaker 1: that ship. We have to encourage those guys to continue
Speaker 1: setting that message out there, like on on the instagrams,
Speaker 1: on the facebooks, chopping up their videos and showing people
Speaker 1: that you know, you know you can, You've got a
Speaker 1: life to live, you know. And I think as far
Speaker 1: as we're concerned, we're coming out of that that v
Speaker 1: a you know, prescribed dungeon that we were that you know,
Speaker 1: we were trapped in for so a while, the medication,
Speaker 1: the prescriptions. Most young combat vets coming out are starting
Speaker 1: to see these guys getting that notoriety, getting that fame,
Speaker 1: and start to see that they could live past their injury.
Speaker 1: You know, I think that's a great message and we
Speaker 1: definitely need to support those guys. Show him that, Hey,
Speaker 1: you're you're doing something big for the community. You're showing
Speaker 1: guys that they still have light at the end of
Speaker 1: the tunnel, you know. And it's not a fucking train
Speaker 1: maryling down on you. But this guy, Derek, he actually
Speaker 1: talks about, you know, thoughts of suicide. He talks about
Speaker 1: trying to drink himself to death, taking a bunch of pills,
Speaker 1: doing all that ship. He owns it, owns it, and
Speaker 1: he's fought his way through it, you know. So, you know,
Speaker 1: a great job to those guys, know that, completely completely
Speaker 1: unapologetic about it. I mean he's gonna fucking he's gotta
Speaker 1: face tattoo and see it. I mean, he's just owning it.
Speaker 1: Mike Flitch has been on the podcasts like that. He's uh,
Speaker 1: most of his face is burned, missing, missing, both his arms,
Speaker 1: legs are burned. But he wrote an article for Ranger
Speaker 1: Up about thoughts of committing suicide and now he's encouraging
Speaker 1: other guys to like go out and live their wife
Speaker 1: and does these running events. I got to be a
Speaker 1: part of it, uh, the Tunnel of the Towers run
Speaker 1: that he did a few years back, Jack Murphy and
Speaker 1: I ran with him, uh, and that was pretty cool
Speaker 1: to see. He does all different stuff. Some of these
Speaker 1: guys are the most positive people in the world. It's
Speaker 1: it's one of those It's motivating because I see them
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what the funk am I complaining about? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: But the reason we don't see a lot of that
Speaker 1: stuff in the media, and I hate to say it,
Speaker 1: is because it doesn't sell advertising. It doesn't. It doesn't
Speaker 1: sell time because most people, they want to get energized
Speaker 1: by that negativity. They want to get energized by the
Speaker 1: the freaking, the suicide bombers, they want to get energized
Speaker 1: by the mass shooters all that other stuff, and that
Speaker 1: stuff sells. That might motivate someone to turn off their TV.
Speaker 1: And something I don't very seldom if I'm watching television
Speaker 1: I'm watching the History Channel or or something else, or
Speaker 1: or something on Netflix. You know, things things on Netflix.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's the deal. Oh yeah. The other thing
Speaker 1: I want to talk about real quick is the lowering
Speaker 1: of standards for f We put a free article out
Speaker 1: on soft rep called career Careerism, crony Ism, and malfeasance
Speaker 1: in the Special Warfare Center. You guys could look that up.
Speaker 1: The craziest thing for me. I mean, it's a very
Speaker 1: long article and the guys did a great job. But
Speaker 1: the thing that's stuck out for me and sidebar I
Speaker 1: I found out earlier, like a couple of days ago.
Speaker 1: I didn't mention in the last episode, but soft rep
Speaker 1: is apparently banned from all government computers, like after this
Speaker 1: article came out, along with two other things. But I
Speaker 1: think this was like the tipping point, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: because this is diving into some stuff that people are
Speaker 1: very critical. So they restricted software soft reap as a
Speaker 1: site that government employees can't go. Well, that doesn't say anything,
Speaker 1: that doesn't that doesn't say much. A lot is blocked
Speaker 1: on this, Yeah, but you know, to me, it just
Speaker 1: says that they're they're scaredable. We're putting out there, especially
Speaker 1: this was a free article. Well, and you're getting you're getting,
Speaker 1: you're you're definitely getting some momentum. Yeah. But so the
Speaker 1: thing that stood out to me as a guy who
Speaker 1: is not a veteran not Special Operations was that they
Speaker 1: were working to pass people who couldn't even run. I
Speaker 1: think it was like a ten minute mile for five miles,
Speaker 1: and then they were letting these guys retached again and
Speaker 1: again and again, still coming in over time, and they
Speaker 1: were getting from the pipeline like, that's pretty scary. Special Ops.
Speaker 1: I think we all would agree. Its supposed to be
Speaker 1: like the best of the best, these you know, these
Speaker 1: people who are almost freaks of nature that could do
Speaker 1: this superhuman ship. And to me, that doesn't qualify. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: I And I'm gonna peggyback on what Jason said earlier.
Speaker 1: He sees it from ten thousand feet as a macro
Speaker 1: situation that maybe they are trying to soften all the
Speaker 1: standards to let females into the Special Operations and tones.
Speaker 1: I think if a female can pass and she can
Speaker 1: do everything that the guys can do, then why not.
Speaker 1: But now, if what the guys can do, it's not
Speaker 1: the guys Yeah, and that was just you know, one
Speaker 1: of my thoughts that were theories that where it's probably
Speaker 1: headed towards. It's that they were embarrassed at their first
Speaker 1: project or attempt to pass women through um, you know,
Speaker 1: ranger school and stuff like what also exactly so you know,
Speaker 1: my theory is that there are slowly deconstructing the standards
Speaker 1: so that they can restart the project again and actually
Speaker 1: has some success success with it desensitizing the population to
Speaker 1: that did take about like the idea of women think
Speaker 1: it's a terrible, terrible, terrible. I mean, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1: I think they should have the opportunity and if if
Speaker 1: you have, if you have combat units that are strictly women,
Speaker 1: then great. If you have combat units that are strictly men,
Speaker 1: they're great. But anytime you put men and women together,
Speaker 1: there's there's gonna be that physical attraction. There's gonna be
Speaker 1: a physical there's gonna be horrible, horrible love triangles, there's
Speaker 1: gonna be fights, there's gonna be suicide because there's gonna
Speaker 1: be those intimate relationships going on, and then they're going
Speaker 1: to get sick of each other and somebody's gonna start
Speaker 1: having sex. With somebody else and then people are gonna
Speaker 1: get killed. And we have several thousand years of programming
Speaker 1: where men protect women. It's not the popular thing to say.
Speaker 1: Is that a little bit sexist? Yes it is, But
Speaker 1: to reality, the situation is you're not gonna any of
Speaker 1: the individuals that I've ever been associated with. Somebody hits
Speaker 1: a woman, that person is going to go down. We
Speaker 1: had guys get in trouble in the Middle East because
Speaker 1: they saw Middle Eastern men hitting women and they reacted poorly.
Speaker 1: Are our guys reacted poorly to it? And Uh, that's
Speaker 1: just it's something that's in us, especially as Westerners, especially
Speaker 1: as right and I don't I said there, No, I'm
Speaker 1: with you, bro. There is a there. There is that
Speaker 1: segment of the population. And I don't like saying it
Speaker 1: because I don't know if it's false humility or it
Speaker 1: is what it is. But I think that term gets
Speaker 1: overused because I think in a situation, anybody who has
Speaker 1: a backbone, who has the right upbringing is going to
Speaker 1: do the right thing because I think deep down and
Speaker 1: everyone they know what the right thing is, and I
Speaker 1: think that's just gonna result. My point with the alpha
Speaker 1: male is that you know, it's difficult for us to
Speaker 1: see some sort of injustice, no matter how big it
Speaker 1: is and not say something about it. So that I was,
Speaker 1: you know, lending to your point with you know, maybe
Speaker 1: seeing her get disrespected verbally or hit, it's gonna create
Speaker 1: a situation that we pretty pretty much really don't need
Speaker 1: to deal with. Fist, somebody's gonna get a fucking fish
Speaker 1: through their heads, somebody's hitting the girl. But as far
Speaker 1: as knock the funk out and in a gunfight, you
Speaker 1: know it's you're gonna protect her. I don't care. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't care what happens. You're going to It's just
Speaker 1: gonna happen. There's no way around it, I know, Jack
Speaker 1: Murphy said on the Green Berets inside the team room,
Speaker 1: he made a really interesting point where he said, like
Speaker 1: these beheading videos that come out of Ice, just beheadings
Speaker 1: and all that. He said, once one comes out of
Speaker 1: like a female being beheaded, he's like it's all over.
Speaker 1: Like the public's reaction to that is going to be
Speaker 1: doing well. What they don't what they don't say is
Speaker 1: that be heading is the end of it. They don't
Speaker 1: talk about the horrible to those guys are getting raped,
Speaker 1: they're getting tortured beyond belief, getting sodomized with freaking objects,
Speaker 1: getting tormented. I mean, be heading at that point in
Speaker 1: time is going to be a relief, not to getting
Speaker 1: your head sought off is a good deal. But what
Speaker 1: about that Jordanian pilot burned a lot? But yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: just that's that's a horrific situation in itself. But they
Speaker 1: don't talk about the atrocity that happens prior to that
Speaker 1: because the American population they don't see what's going on.
Speaker 1: They don't they don't see the rampant homosexuality, they don't
Speaker 1: see the repression, they don't see the hatred. They just
Speaker 1: don't see it. My first trip to the Middle Least
Speaker 1: and the nineties, an old Arab guy said this to us.
Speaker 1: He said, the only thing an Arab understands is a
Speaker 1: fist in the mouth. In the minute you stopped beating him.
Speaker 1: He hates you because you're weak. M hm. That's coming
Speaker 1: from one of their own people. So we you can't
Speaker 1: understand the population until you've been there and you've lived
Speaker 1: with those people. And grant, they've been doing it for
Speaker 1: thousands of years. Man there's no there's no changing clam mental.
Speaker 1: It's not immoral to them, right, that's just that's just
Speaker 1: who they are. Live and let live, love your neighbor.
Speaker 1: All that ship is purely Western and far Eastern. They
Speaker 1: hold a grudge for eternity. There's you. I can't remember
Speaker 1: what it was, but they were interviewing an individual and
Speaker 1: he was crying about something that happened in the sixteen
Speaker 1: hundreds of how his people have been killed. So we're talking,
Speaker 1: you know, it's four centuries, but that one up. But
Speaker 1: I often on the podcast try to offer that opposite
Speaker 1: perspective just but you know, not necessarily my opinion. But
Speaker 1: we've had Dan Gordon on the podcast before. His former
Speaker 1: I d F sniper, UM, you know, talks about women
Speaker 1: and serving in combat. I don't I think you would
Speaker 1: actually agree with you guys and all this stuff. But
Speaker 1: an interesting point he made on the podcast that I remember,
Speaker 1: and he hasn't been on in ages, is that he
Speaker 1: talked about their certain things women are better at and
Speaker 1: could be better purposed for in the military than guys.
Speaker 1: And I remember the thing that he that he through
Speaker 1: out there was he said surveillance like long term surveillance
Speaker 1: and what he said and he was like just being
Speaker 1: blunt about it is He's like, guys will not focus
Speaker 1: for that long because we're thinking about sex. We have
Speaker 1: our minds and other ship. And women will be able
Speaker 1: to like watch a surveillance video for hours and point
Speaker 1: out what's going on that's wrong, right, And they're gonna
Speaker 1: notice a guy's shoes, They're gonna notice a guy's watch.
Speaker 1: They're gonna notice if he has the same facial structure
Speaker 1: and he shaves, or if he changes his hair color.
Speaker 1: It's like asking a man to the surveillor woman. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't because you you never make it. You never
Speaker 1: make it past the front and the back. You know what,
Speaker 1: when it comes to women serving in the high threat
Speaker 1: UH manner or in special operations, I I I'm with
Speaker 1: it as long as the units are segregated because of
Speaker 1: what I feel that we discussed, you know, before this.
Speaker 1: But I still think that maybe as a government, we
Speaker 1: need to start paying more attention and training or giving
Speaker 1: those tools, those you know, high threat tools to women
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, and it sounds crazy,
Speaker 1: but there they would literally be our last line of
Speaker 1: defense because women whenever a country gets taken over or
Speaker 1: um just to say, your areas being occupied, the women
Speaker 1: are the first ones to get snatched up as prizes.
Speaker 1: Now you're talking about having potentially well trained individuals in
Speaker 1: advantageous situations, so probably throw another coup or like you said,
Speaker 1: we can get women to places like perfect example, you
Speaker 1: know you can get all these security guards out of
Speaker 1: a room, but you know you can point to a
Speaker 1: female said, that's my secretary. Can you leave her here?
Speaker 1: You know, little little dude, that everyone else in that room?
Speaker 1: Little does everyone else in that room? No, That she
Speaker 1: probably speaks, you know, several languages and is about that,
Speaker 1: you know, when it comes to the job in and
Speaker 1: of itself, listening and analyzing and stuff like that. So
Speaker 1: I think definitely adventations to have women with with that
Speaker 1: skill set. But as far as combat units on the ground,
Speaker 1: give him a shot, shut but segregate right. And as
Speaker 1: far as intelligence position goes and some of the more
Speaker 1: covert situations, obviously women are gonna be able to get
Speaker 1: locations that men can't. But I just think the probability
Speaker 1: of those individuals being romantically and physically involved because you're
Speaker 1: you're you're talking about a hyper hyper aggressive percentage of
Speaker 1: the population. And with that hyper progression comes on hyper sexuality.
Speaker 1: You know, you get supercharged up. There's there's lots of
Speaker 1: sex going on. And I'm talking about when the guys
Speaker 1: are done working, you're out in the bars and you're
Speaker 1: doing all that kind of nonsense. The same thing is
Speaker 1: going to happen if the females are in the units. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: I heard something interesting. By the way, all that background
Speaker 1: noise is just people doing something down There's always something
Speaker 1: going down to alley. But anyway, because we worked at
Speaker 1: a pretty hit place. Um so I heard something interesting
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. Gentlemen in the gym, you know,
Speaker 1: you know how So I'm in the sun having my
Speaker 1: scrowed them wax had an interesting conversation was happening. But
Speaker 1: this doctor, why are both of your hands on my shoulder?
Speaker 1: Funny is this guy was a doctor, so he's he
Speaker 1: offered me a free exam. You could have turned him down.
Speaker 1: He was hot. He was a hot ginger and sauna
Speaker 1: he was. He was a Hindu man. So you know, ship,
Speaker 1: I never had a Hindu before, but I can't say
Speaker 1: that anymore. You know, we're talking and we're talking about
Speaker 1: guys that come from where we come from, and how
Speaker 1: we have so many like kids you know, with other
Speaker 1: women like you know, several baby mamas or we have
Speaker 1: failed marriages and stuff like that. And it's interesting and
Speaker 1: you brought it up. Um men that live in these
Speaker 1: these high pace uh careers, you know, that come close
Speaker 1: to death several times. Subconsciously, we'll try to procreate to
Speaker 1: extend our lineage. You know. It's something we don't do intentionally,
Speaker 1: we just it's instinctively. So in that I think that
Speaker 1: would be boiled up into it because you, like you said,
Speaker 1: you get hot and bothered, You get all that adrenaline
Speaker 1: and pumping up. You know you're gonna die and nextually
Speaker 1: you know you you're misconstruing you know, several emotions for romance,
Speaker 1: for passion, or telling that you're thinking I could be
Speaker 1: dead tomorrow. Why shouldn't I? Thanks many, I'm trying. That's
Speaker 1: what it boils down to. Yeah, today tomorrow could be
Speaker 1: the end, so why not? I guess wrapping this up,
Speaker 1: what about when you talk about women who could make
Speaker 1: it through buds? If you know, do you think there
Speaker 1: is like that anomaly you can not like a Chris
Speaker 1: Cyborg in the UFC who has obviously been on steroids,
Speaker 1: which you know makes you partment on some level. And
Speaker 1: you're if if you're I'm a big proponent a testosteron
Speaker 1: a human growth hormone, especially for our special Operations forces.
Speaker 1: I I think it's the same across the board. If
Speaker 1: you are willing to go to that extreme, you're willing
Speaker 1: to make that commitment, and you can do it safe
Speaker 1: and you can do it medically, why not. Why not?
Speaker 1: If you agree and if you can get a team
Speaker 1: of women in there that are that muscular, that intense,
Speaker 1: and that fucking hard is Woodpecker lips, you get in
Speaker 1: there and do it. Why not? I just I'm just
Speaker 1: saying it's been my experience, not my opinion, my experience
Speaker 1: that you get a bunch of whether it's alpha females,
Speaker 1: alpha males, you get a bunch of people that are
Speaker 1: used to kick in doors in They're gonna want to
Speaker 1: drink beer and have sex. That's just why it goes
Speaker 1: the example of like Kristin Back, who has been on
Speaker 1: the podcast you know who was a male Navy seal
Speaker 1: deb bru Seal Team six now hyper progressive, hyper progressive dude.
Speaker 1: What why? What? However, however uh individual identifies now it's
Speaker 1: and I could care less. I don't care who you
Speaker 1: want to have sex with, as long as you don't
Speaker 1: hurt anybody. I don't care. Whoever, I don't care a set.
Speaker 1: If you want to identify as a fucking penguin, I
Speaker 1: could care less. But the reality of that situation is
Speaker 1: you make your your own choices. And he damn sure
Speaker 1: didn't do that in a fucking platoon. He didn't do
Speaker 1: that in a squadron, and because who knows what would
Speaker 1: have happened, but it would have been good, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? If I think, you know, the gay dudes,
Speaker 1: nobody really cares, you know, but to be pretending, you know,
Speaker 1: to be to be making that step in that situation,
Speaker 1: when you're in that situation with those guys, that would
Speaker 1: be a terrible decision. To have the stance that you
Speaker 1: have with that individual right now. It takes maturity. And
Speaker 1: you know it's because some old No, it's sucking true
Speaker 1: because I think the same way now, But I can't
Speaker 1: say I thought the same way when I was twenty three,
Speaker 1: not because because your mind is somewhere else at that point,
Speaker 1: and like you said, you're hyper aggressive, you're looking for
Speaker 1: the fight, and that's what you need on that side. Well,
Speaker 1: but you've been you've been programmed to that. Life is
Speaker 1: supposed to look a certain way. You're supposed to do this,
Speaker 1: you're supposed to do that. But because you haven't been anywhere,
Speaker 1: you haven't done anything. And then after the fact is
Speaker 1: when you start growing and you know, your testosterone stops,
Speaker 1: you know, being produced, and you start becoming a little
Speaker 1: bit more motion, a little bit more reasonable, a little
Speaker 1: and that's a lot of the stuff that you know,
Speaker 1: we deal with after the fact. But and that's where
Speaker 1: I agree with you there as well. When it comes
Speaker 1: to the testosterone therapy, especially guys that are in this
Speaker 1: line of work for twenty years, twenty plus years, right,
Speaker 1: they're gonna need some help at that point because you
Speaker 1: don't hear what's fast and one just doesn't happen. You
Speaker 1: don't have the energy, you don't have the stamina, you
Speaker 1: don't heal it's fast. Um I am. I am on
Speaker 1: testosterone therapy, and I will always be you. I mean,
Speaker 1: why not until until you know, ninety or until I croak,
Speaker 1: which could be you know now who who the hell knows?
Speaker 1: There are no guarantees in this deal, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: interesting man. Um. So anyway, I said, I wanted to
Speaker 1: get into like the old Steve rolls, and I don't
Speaker 1: know where to begin. It's it's funny because I've only
Speaker 1: really hung out Steve. The last time you were here.
Speaker 1: We got a few burgers, um, because we both don't drink.
Speaker 1: Got a burger eat usually would mean no, it's gonna
Speaker 1: even get a bun on it. Did you know that
Speaker 1: protein burgers them? Yeah? He did. I had to convince
Speaker 1: him to eat some of these fried onions. It's called
Speaker 1: onion hay. It was awesome. It's like onion rings without
Speaker 1: all the ship on him. It's just like fried onions.
Speaker 1: Was good. It was very good. Um. But anyway, you
Speaker 1: kind of told me the whole origin story of you
Speaker 1: pre sealed growing up as a little kid. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you want to start there, because it's I
Speaker 1: think it's such a fascinating story. We got time, We
Speaker 1: got as much time as you want. Man, this is
Speaker 1: it's it's a little bit boring. No, definitely not. That's
Speaker 1: a well, you know his story. I mean, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say you know some of it, but I don't know
Speaker 1: Jason in our pals. But the reality of the whole
Speaker 1: situation is, I'm I was probably never supposed to be here.
Speaker 1: This is that I found out some things this year
Speaker 1: that I found out that I am a my closest door.
Speaker 1: Well even though we're going out to million of people
Speaker 1: in the close the door, so the fund is in
Speaker 1: the building, can't hear me? How funny is that now
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a product of I'm the I'm the
Speaker 1: product of a sexual assault. And uh, back into that
Speaker 1: point in time, they were forced to get married because
Speaker 1: my mother was pregnant, and they were divorced soon after
Speaker 1: because my my father went to the Marine Corps. He
Speaker 1: said he was drafted, but he wasn't. He lied to
Speaker 1: me and enlisted. And so if you can imagine, I'm
Speaker 1: the human what the human evidence of that atrocity that
Speaker 1: happened to that woman? Yeah, can you imagine day and
Speaker 1: then especially if you have some sort of resemblance to
Speaker 1: your father, terrible exactly. So there's of course she did
Speaker 1: whatever she could get rid of me. She couldn't just
Speaker 1: put me up for adoption because the family would have
Speaker 1: would have frowned on that. But so what she did
Speaker 1: is she gave me to whatever relatives she could understandable.
Speaker 1: But I lived with some family members and that's just
Speaker 1: We'll just say that they were motorcycle enthusiasts and entrepreneurs,
Speaker 1: so they they made certain things and they sold certain things.
Speaker 1: And uh, when I was nine, my my cousin and
Speaker 1: I wore running around the house because they were, you know,
Speaker 1: drug dealers and gun runners. And I picked up a
Speaker 1: rifle when I shot him in the head and he
Speaker 1: didn't die right away. I was nine, he was probably seven.
Speaker 1: He died a couple a couple of weeks later when
Speaker 1: they pulled them you know, they took him off from machines,
Speaker 1: and uh, if you can imagine learning that lesson when
Speaker 1: you're ten or nine. So that's where my my self
Speaker 1: loathing started, you know what I mean. I just hated
Speaker 1: my And that's why I'm so open to talk about
Speaker 1: suicide and all that other year, because that's the real thing.
Speaker 1: So I started started selling drugs when I was ten.
Speaker 1: I started selling marijuana ten, started selling coke about thirteen ish,
Speaker 1: and then I started participating in some gangster stuff as
Speaker 1: much as you can in Pennsylvania, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But we were we were doing what we were doing.
Speaker 1: I was not a good kid. And then some of
Speaker 1: my friends ended up getting in trouble and going places,
Speaker 1: and I found I was always interested in Jock Cousteaux
Speaker 1: and all that other kind of ship. So I found
Speaker 1: the hardest special forces that the American military had to offer,
Speaker 1: and it just so happened. I got to dive and
Speaker 1: jump out of planes and blow shot up and murder motherfucker's.
Speaker 1: So I went into the Seals. I went. I signed
Speaker 1: up to go to the Navy under the die fare program.
Speaker 1: I went only to be a seal, and I wasn't
Speaker 1: specifically fit. I wasn't an athlete, and I struggled through
Speaker 1: all of it, you know what I mean. I got
Speaker 1: rolled back because I was injured. I got rolled back
Speaker 1: because I I think I failed at time braun or something.
Speaker 1: I can't recall. It was years ago, but I still
Speaker 1: I made it through training and they didn't do the
Speaker 1: or maybe the that didn't show up on a special
Speaker 1: background investigation. But that was it. So I carried that around,
Speaker 1: if you can imagine, I carried that around, all that
Speaker 1: self loathing, which was basically a bunch of fear, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I was afraid, afraid if you
Speaker 1: found this out with the judgment. Well, of course, of
Speaker 1: course how I'm going to look. I was afraid what
Speaker 1: other people were gonna think about me, And of course
Speaker 1: people are gonna judge it because people have judgment because
Speaker 1: they're afraid, because they're constantly comparing themselves to someone else.
Speaker 1: You had, you had Robot new On here the other day,
Speaker 1: the guy that killed Sama bin Lauden. So I'm the
Speaker 1: comic relief for that, you know, I'm like the I'm
Speaker 1: the anti hero in comparison to that character. But the
Speaker 1: reality is that was something I cared around with me
Speaker 1: forever and you know, still a little bit to this day.
Speaker 1: But so I went through training and the whole time
Speaker 1: I was angry, just super angry. I didn't know why,
Speaker 1: because I was afraid. I was afraid that somebody's gonna
Speaker 1: find out this secret, and that was gonna be it,
Speaker 1: especially when you're young and you don't know anything. So
Speaker 1: I went the whole way through training with that, and
Speaker 1: if you can imagine the only time, the only time,
Speaker 1: not the whole way through training, the whole way through
Speaker 1: my life. The only time that I didn't you drugs
Speaker 1: was when I was in boot camp. So when I
Speaker 1: got out and I was in Buds, right right after,
Speaker 1: right after I got a boot camp and I was
Speaker 1: in a regular Navy, I was back to drinking and
Speaker 1: using as often as possible, what type of everything, acid,
Speaker 1: whatever I could get my hands on. And for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: well that's self hatred, man. I was completely hated, just
Speaker 1: hated myself. I was afraid and I hated myself. All
Speaker 1: that ship going on. That makes the fact that you
Speaker 1: made it through Buds with that, let alone all the
Speaker 1: physical requirements and you know the deep, the dig dig
Speaker 1: deep you have to pull out of your ass to
Speaker 1: pass it. Well, the thing is, and I was, I
Speaker 1: was suicidal, but I wasn't gonna do it myself, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's just like, there's not you're
Speaker 1: gonna kill me? So what you so? Then? So then
Speaker 1: I won't be suffered anymore. That's crazy. But do you
Speaker 1: think anybody who does these things that are you know,
Speaker 1: feats of superhuman strength. I feel like you have to
Speaker 1: have some anger now there made you. But when you
Speaker 1: you get over that, the reality is and I've learned
Speaker 1: this through. You know, I've been sober for sixteen years
Speaker 1: coming up on now, and I haven't done I haven't
Speaker 1: I haven't done it perfectly, but I've I've done a
Speaker 1: pretty a pretty fair job of it. The all that
Speaker 1: anger and nonsense, that's all fear. You're afraid, you're afraid
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose something, or you're afraid that somebody isn't
Speaker 1: gonna think what you think that they should think about you.
Speaker 1: That's all that furious and all that anger is. But
Speaker 1: there's really it's just fucking pointless because whatever's gonna happen
Speaker 1: is gonna happen. You have no control over anything but
Speaker 1: your actions, in your attitude, and it took me a
Speaker 1: long time to get there. I mean, it's it's been
Speaker 1: probably I've probably only been in this solid place right
Speaker 1: now for ten years, you know, and I'm sucking forty
Speaker 1: seven years older. Brings me back to something you told
Speaker 1: me when we first met. I was tattooing you, and
Speaker 1: it was probably one of the most profound things I've
Speaker 1: ever heard. I don't know if you were just looking
Speaker 1: at my face and you saw that, you know, I
Speaker 1: had that lost look at my face when I was
Speaker 1: tatting you and stuff and right there, yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: we we had to take my fucking elbow three times.
Speaker 1: The elbow. It's just great. Yeah, it's it's good work.
Speaker 1: And he's not done yet. So he's looked at me,
Speaker 1: and you know, I I worry a lot. I have
Speaker 1: a ton of things on my mind, you know, it's
Speaker 1: just part of that hyperactiveness, you know, um hyperactive mentality.
Speaker 1: And he's just looking at me. He just cause hey,
Speaker 1: in case you were wondering, it doesn't get any better.
Speaker 1: You still are, you still will figure You'll still be
Speaker 1: figuring it out, that's what you said. And I looked
Speaker 1: at him and I was like, what he goes, if
Speaker 1: you're wondering, if you'll still be figuring it out by
Speaker 1: the time you get to my age, I'm telling you, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're still figuring things out. You're not gonna just one
Speaker 1: day wake up and everything is already. All the answers
Speaker 1: are there in front of you, you know. And it's
Speaker 1: just like that hit me like a ton of bricks, man,
Speaker 1: And I just saw that I had that outlook on life.
Speaker 1: I saw I had that foresight when you said that,
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, what You're right. You
Speaker 1: just gotta take life, you know, evolution after evolution, and
Speaker 1: just deal with it. Life is man, there's no way
Speaker 1: around it. You know, nobody gets out of this deal alive.
Speaker 1: It just trying to be the best person you can
Speaker 1: every day and it never gets easier. You just get stronger.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, it never gets easier. So, yeah, I was
Speaker 1: in UH. I went to my first first Shield team
Speaker 1: as STV Team one, and for whatever reason, I had
Speaker 1: an aptitude. It's funny that clapping behind us I had.
Speaker 1: I had an aptitude for driving that miniature submarine. So
Speaker 1: I did it as a primary pilot for two platoons.
Speaker 1: So I I got more than a thousand hours driving
Speaker 1: that thing. And the thing and the same thing was
Speaker 1: I just wouldn't quit. I wasn't afraid of the cold,
Speaker 1: I wasn't afraid of the dark. I wasn't afraid to
Speaker 1: get chewed up by a submarine. I was hoping that
Speaker 1: I was that somebody was going to end the pain
Speaker 1: that I thought that I was in. And then after
Speaker 1: that I went to Seal Team three. I was there
Speaker 1: for about four and a half years, and the same
Speaker 1: thing there I volunteered for for Arabic school. They sent
Speaker 1: in Arabic school, and then I did some back and
Speaker 1: forth time to the Middle East. But it was it
Speaker 1: was prior to the war and everything else. It was,
Speaker 1: And I should throw out there, you're you're slightly older
Speaker 1: than like a lot of friends of Seal Team three
Speaker 1: on the show. So Whitland, Brandon and Emerson and I.
Speaker 1: Clint got to the team right when I was leaving.
Speaker 1: He was got the hundred deadly skills, got a great, great,
Speaker 1: great guy, super super talented, crazy, humble dev group guy,
Speaker 1: solid solid cat. If he if he had the opportunity
Speaker 1: to do some research on that guy by his stuff,
Speaker 1: go to his courses, solid guy. But yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was before all those guys. It was before they
Speaker 1: saw the war on the horizon. But you know, we
Speaker 1: didn't know it was coming. And then I got I
Speaker 1: got married. I got married when I was twenty three,
Speaker 1: is my second STV platoon, And I got married for
Speaker 1: all the wrong reasons. The this woman she pursued me,
Speaker 1: and I you know, I had that the situation, this
Speaker 1: is what life is supposed to be. I had. I
Speaker 1: had done the Seal Team thing, so now I was
Speaker 1: gonna do the rich thing. So I got out, which
Speaker 1: was a terrible decision. I got talked into getting out
Speaker 1: a bit. Then I went to the commercial real estate
Speaker 1: industry and made it just a stupid amount of money.
Speaker 1: And and then I was I was acting out in
Speaker 1: all those ways. You know they say that you're supposed
Speaker 1: to that, you the American dreams. You have all these things,
Speaker 1: and you're happy. You have money, you have cars, you
Speaker 1: have houses, you have girlfriends, you have all that stuff.
Speaker 1: When you're happy. It's a lie, you know, all that stuff.
Speaker 1: You you get the most satisfaction from helping other people,
Speaker 1: which which sounds like a cliche and it sounds so nonsensical,
Speaker 1: but that's really You feel good about yourself when you
Speaker 1: help other people. And I could not see that, so
Speaker 1: I continued, continued to act out. When I got out
Speaker 1: of the military, I had a large amount of disposed income,
Speaker 1: so everything magnified, large amounts of cocaine, large amounts all
Speaker 1: that other nonsense that goes with us with it. And
Speaker 1: then finally I burned out. I I woke up out
Speaker 1: of out of a uh five day blackout. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was it was good. I was doing about it's probably
Speaker 1: anywhere from three to six Graham's cocaine every day, drinking
Speaker 1: about a leader of vodka taken maybe five or ten
Speaker 1: Viking and trying to get the sign waves just right,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, trying to oh yeah, trying
Speaker 1: to get the chemical balance just right, cruising around with
Speaker 1: a gun in the car. Too much pot, too much coke,
Speaker 1: and too much money. For whatever reason, I didn't get
Speaker 1: pulled over, because it would have been terrible. I mean,
Speaker 1: what if something What if something went wrong and I
Speaker 1: pulled the gun and the cop killed me or I
Speaker 1: you know, killed this guy doing just trying to do
Speaker 1: his job. But anyway, I went to I came back
Speaker 1: and I signed the found person's report because they you know,
Speaker 1: they followed missing person's report after you've been gone for
Speaker 1: forty eight hours. So I came back and signed the
Speaker 1: found person's report and went to the hospital. At the time,
Speaker 1: my brother in law was my doctor. So I went
Speaker 1: to the hospital and I woke up after a couple
Speaker 1: of days being on conscious and I was, I was.
Speaker 1: I was in a pardon me, ankles, knees, hips, elbows,
Speaker 1: wrist and a head restraint. What well, I'll freak. You
Speaker 1: must have been. But it was It was definitely unusual
Speaker 1: waking up like that. You know, I was like, thank God,
Speaker 1: my ask doesn't hurt. So I woke up and there
Speaker 1: was this you could laugh about it because like this,
Speaker 1: it's funny. It's funny. I woke up and there was
Speaker 1: this giant, giant African American nurse, just big fucking black dude,
Speaker 1: and they're reading the newspaper. And I looked over and
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get up and I'm like hey, and
Speaker 1: he's just sucking ignoring me, and I'm like hey, hey, hey, bitch.
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, hey, man, you want to fuck
Speaker 1: you want to turn me loose? And he doesn't even
Speaker 1: look at him. He goes nope. So after that, my
Speaker 1: my brother in law and my wife at the time
Speaker 1: came in and cried and did all that ship and
Speaker 1: then the my they brought to one of the doctors
Speaker 1: in and they brought the E M T in. They're like, hey,
Speaker 1: you want to meet this guy and I'm like no.
Speaker 1: He's like, well, he wants to meet you, and I'm
Speaker 1: like why, So he comes in because I just want
Speaker 1: to meet you. I'm like okay, And because you had
Speaker 1: twice the lethal limit of cocaine and barbiturous in your system,
Speaker 1: there's no reason that you should be alive. And I
Speaker 1: was like, well, that's fucking great. Next, you know, because
Speaker 1: I was I was literally I was hoping this is
Speaker 1: the end of it, you know, because I was still
Speaker 1: still suicidal still. So that went great. And then I
Speaker 1: went and went to rehab, of course, and uh, in rehab,
Speaker 1: it was it was a mixed rehab. So let's just
Speaker 1: say I was. I was friendly with some girls who
Speaker 1: liked girls there, which is which is great. But then
Speaker 1: but the good news is they went back to their
Speaker 1: girlfriends after we were done being being pals. But if
Speaker 1: you can imagine you're sitting in this rehabing, this big circle,
Speaker 1: and this girl is there with their girlfriend. I'm there
Speaker 1: with my wife at the time, and at any time,
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for her to say he and I have
Speaker 1: been doing this. But I mean, if you can imagine
Speaker 1: that that intensity inside that circle, when you're supposed to
Speaker 1: have this come to Jesus meeting with God in the
Speaker 1: whole planet, that's not happening, and it's just not happening.
Speaker 1: So I was still a degenerate the whole way through.
Speaker 1: And then I was It's funny. I thought I was
Speaker 1: a smart guy because my commercial real estate had a
Speaker 1: conservative pretaxcess in the two fifty million bucks. And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that because I'm intelligent. I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: for any reason rather than I was lucky and I
Speaker 1: showed up at the right place at the right time
Speaker 1: a bunch of days in a row. But I exploited
Speaker 1: my wife at the times connections and we were we
Speaker 1: were successful. We were successful because one I was powered
Speaker 1: by cocaine. I worked twenty hours a day and to
Speaker 1: even I was drug adult. I did what I said
Speaker 1: I was gonna do. Well, that's just in you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we just did it work ethic and we put it
Speaker 1: together and we killed it. And uh, I had two
Speaker 1: cocaine dealers working for me, you know, seventeen miles from Mexico. Man,
Speaker 1: why shouldn't I have some cartail guys on the payroll.
Speaker 1: So when I was in when I was in rehab,
Speaker 1: I called one of the guys up. His name was Freddie.
Speaker 1: I said, Freddy, I need you to bring me some yo.
Speaker 1: And he was like here and it's like, boss, you're
Speaker 1: in the hospital. It's just Freddie. I know where the
Speaker 1: funk am at. I need you to bring me some,
Speaker 1: you know, And he's like, no, man, I can't do it.
Speaker 1: And I said, Freddie, you know me, I'll come to
Speaker 1: your house. I'll fucking kill you and everybody there, and
Speaker 1: I'll burn your fucking house down. And he said, I'll
Speaker 1: be there in thirty minutes. And he brought me a
Speaker 1: fucking ounce of cocaine when I was in ye and
Speaker 1: showed up with a perfect little golf ball. What the punk,
Speaker 1: I was gonna be there for a month, dude? Come on,
Speaker 1: that was two weeks. That was two That was two
Speaker 1: weeks when I was, you know, a solid dickhead, so
Speaker 1: in the hospital month, that's that should be enough, dude.
Speaker 1: Freddy was initially trying to be a friend. No no,
Speaker 1: when and I did, I did finally get sober. But
Speaker 1: when I when I did get sober, I had Freddy
Speaker 1: come into my office. Nobody knew except for a guy.
Speaker 1: He used to work for me. He had also been
Speaker 1: in a seal team with me before. And I said, man,
Speaker 1: you know you gotta go. So you got two weeks,
Speaker 1: get your stuff together. I'll cut your severance check. So
Speaker 1: Freddy got his stuff together, and you know, I gave
Speaker 1: him a couple a couple of grand extra and he
Speaker 1: split and he went on his mary Way. Hope, hopefully
Speaker 1: he's doing well. But that was a deal. And then
Speaker 1: I did get sober, but and then I got divorced.
Speaker 1: And the reason is I got sober and I started
Speaker 1: getting better, and the wife at the time got progressively worse.
Speaker 1: If you can imagine, she was used to having this selfish,
Speaker 1: self centered totally afraid. I was consumed with self centered fear,
Speaker 1: so I was afraid. So she would do whatever she
Speaker 1: could defeed my ego. So it's like she was taking
Speaker 1: care of a big kid, a big dangerous kid, but
Speaker 1: you still take care of a big kid. So I
Speaker 1: got sober and got better, and she progressively got worse,
Speaker 1: and she wasn't willing to do anything about it. So
Speaker 1: we got divorced. And that was what two thousand ten ish,
Speaker 1: a little bit before that. So I've been helping people
Speaker 1: get sober ever since. I still go to the v
Speaker 1: A here. I was going every Monday, but now I
Speaker 1: go whenever I can. You know, there's a couple of
Speaker 1: groups of people I helped. Was that was it easy
Speaker 1: to walk away from the money for you at that point.
Speaker 1: It's well, yes, at that at that point, it absolutely
Speaker 1: positively was. But the reason I walked away is because
Speaker 1: I did that stuff for all the wrong reasons. I
Speaker 1: I got married. I love my kids. They're they're the best,
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna say anything about them, because this
Speaker 1: this goes out to the general population. But the it
Speaker 1: was I did the wrong thing. At one point in time,
Speaker 1: I thought I was in love with that woman, but
Speaker 1: I just wasn't, you know. She pursued me like you
Speaker 1: would pursue any shining thing. And then the she used
Speaker 1: the rest of her family to snare me because I
Speaker 1: didn't really have that and I thought it was the
Speaker 1: right thing and it wasn't. And when I got divorced,
Speaker 1: I gave everything back. And we're talking about we took
Speaker 1: the whole family, took vacations together, you know, like planes
Speaker 1: and ships and all that ship, and I gave it
Speaker 1: all back. I didn't take anything. And the she and
Speaker 1: her and her disgust for me, she continued to pursue
Speaker 1: me for child supporting things of that nature when I
Speaker 1: literally signed everything over to her. No, it's twenty after
Speaker 1: nor she it's getting bored. Don't look at you're watching, Steven. No,
Speaker 1: it's it's funny because when I'm talking like I'm talking,
Speaker 1: I'm talked to speak to groups of people, and I'll
Speaker 1: call people out. It's like, go ahead, no, take that,
Speaker 1: take that telephone call. That's fine. Will wait, I do
Speaker 1: ship like that. But but no, it's been a great ride, man,
Speaker 1: I've had so I gave I gave her everything, the
Speaker 1: commercial real estate company everything, I signed everything over and
Speaker 1: it was my you know, Rassell real Estate company was mine.
Speaker 1: But the reality is freedom is worth it. And you know,
Speaker 1: I think I said on here before you know why
Speaker 1: divorce is so expensive, because it's worth it. She she
Speaker 1: does not have one good thing to say about me
Speaker 1: and I you know, the she's the mother of my
Speaker 1: kids and she's not here to defend herself. I just
Speaker 1: hope that she gets better, I really do, you know,
Speaker 1: because she's passing that stuff onto my kids. I have
Speaker 1: a and it's a terrible thing. My one daughter lives
Speaker 1: out here now and she goes to school here and
Speaker 1: I get to see her a couple of times a week,
Speaker 1: thank god. But they didn't speak to me for three
Speaker 1: years after that, as you can imagine. And now all
Speaker 1: of them say, how did you stay married to her
Speaker 1: for so long? What do you think she said about you? Like,
Speaker 1: you know, every probably every terrible thing that she could. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which is fine. I understand to see you and I
Speaker 1: feel like this isn't the same human Yeah, but seeing
Speaker 1: you now, I mean I feel like you're a guy
Speaker 1: who has conquered more than pretty much anyone I know.
Speaker 1: I mean that story, I think people are gonna love this.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's like the most awesome origin story I've
Speaker 1: ever heard. Well, the thing is, it's not it's how
Speaker 1: many times you get up? Well, you know, it's a
Speaker 1: quote that I remember hearing. Um, I'm, you know, a
Speaker 1: big podcast guy because just doing this and and Joe
Speaker 1: Rogan has said before he was like I love a
Speaker 1: good success story. But you know what I like more
Speaker 1: than that. He's like, I like a guy who fox
Speaker 1: his whole wife up, loses everything and comes back. Story
Speaker 1: it Those are the best type of stories to me. Like,
Speaker 1: that's your story. Well, I'm on the way back right now.
Speaker 1: I think because I was a millionaire before I was
Speaker 1: twenty four. I bought my first house in Coronado into three.
Speaker 1: I mean, I did all that stuff and I thought
Speaker 1: that was that was happiness, and I was so so
Speaker 1: so mistaken. The I've been chasing that nonsense forever and
Speaker 1: it's funny. We moved to Atlanta, I think it was
Speaker 1: two thousand twelve, and I joined a paranormal group where
Speaker 1: they get no we go they go out to these
Speaker 1: uh they get reports these people. Some claims are just nonsense,
Speaker 1: but they get reports with these people are experiencing paranormal
Speaker 1: activity inside their dominant, their house, the dominic house. So
Speaker 1: we there's a there's a list of questions, and I've
Speaker 1: interviewed I've literally interviewed more than a thousand people under
Speaker 1: various states of the rests and UH. I've taken some
Speaker 1: contracts and things that we've we've spoken about offline. But
Speaker 1: I'm fairly fairly savvy of the human animal. There's only
Speaker 1: people do certain things a pent of the time when
Speaker 1: they're trying to convince you that things aren't true, when
Speaker 1: you're honestly trying to convince you that this false statement
Speaker 1: is true, there do certain things. Everybody's the same. And
Speaker 1: I've interviewed several people that we just refused to take
Speaker 1: the investigation. And then there were some investigations where these
Speaker 1: people were being genuine, they were having an experience. And
Speaker 1: I've been on either thirteen or fifteen investigations, and every
Speaker 1: single time we found something, whether it be electronic voice
Speaker 1: phenomenon or sounds that you can't confirm, or even shadows
Speaker 1: inside dark rooms picked up on I R and I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that it's a ghost. I'm not saying it's this.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's that. But I'm saying it's a
Speaker 1: it's an abnormality that we can't define. And to hear
Speaker 1: full sentences on electronic voice phenomenon when it should not
Speaker 1: be there, I don't know what that is, but we
Speaker 1: captured it. I was there and one particular situation, there
Speaker 1: was a woman who was claiming that she was being
Speaker 1: she was being tortured, tortured, but she was being bothered
Speaker 1: by something, some type of dark energy was bothering her
Speaker 1: and tormenting her is a good word. And I interviewed her.
Speaker 1: We had cameras on her, but first she talked about
Speaker 1: it and we went to her house. So I did
Speaker 1: the investigation around her house. I started her on the
Speaker 1: outside perimeter and walked around because she was talking about
Speaker 1: smells and noises and things of that nature. So I
Speaker 1: checked for septic I went in her attic, I went
Speaker 1: in her basement. I checked out her h v a
Speaker 1: C system to see if there's anything inside there. I
Speaker 1: checked out her plumbing because a lot of times when
Speaker 1: you flush the toilet, the pipes and stuff will knock
Speaker 1: on the inside of the house, especially if they're not
Speaker 1: secured correctly. Did all that stuff. I looked around for
Speaker 1: electronics that were disassembled, you know, things like that, things
Speaker 1: that crackheads would do, or somebody that has a speed problem,
Speaker 1: or a part of me a crystal meth pro and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, because I grew up around that ship
Speaker 1: my whole life, so not to look for and if
Speaker 1: there's too many liquor bottles laying around, or I looked
Speaker 1: through her medicine cabinets to see if there's a large
Speaker 1: amount of par scription prescription drugs, none of that stuff.
Speaker 1: And then I interviewed this woman and she was having experience.
Speaker 1: During the interview, she would break down and start crying,
Speaker 1: and then she would stop, and then she would continue
Speaker 1: the interview. And several times during that process she said,
Speaker 1: if I could take medication and make this go away,
Speaker 1: I would do it. She was a middle aged woman, Caucasian,
Speaker 1: normal intelligence. I don't know if she was college educated
Speaker 1: or not. I didn't ask her. And when we reviewed
Speaker 1: the tape, we can we captured electronic voice phenomena. But
Speaker 1: that coincided she would break down and start crying, and
Speaker 1: you would hear these voices saying, this bitch is gonna
Speaker 1: kill herself. We're gonna in these horrible voices, We're gonna
Speaker 1: kill her here. You know she's gonna commit you know,
Speaker 1: crazy ship like that. And on the video you could
Speaker 1: see a disturbance in the pixels around her when this
Speaker 1: ship was happening that I could that you couldn't see
Speaker 1: because I was sitting there, me and another part of me,
Speaker 1: another investigator, and I this is crazy because I could
Speaker 1: just you know, you were not like a wacky conspiracy theorist.
Speaker 1: My hair on the back of my neck just did up.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm fucking skeptical about water being two atoms of
Speaker 1: hydrogen and one of oxygen. Seriously, because I've been some
Speaker 1: places and I've seen some things. I'm skeptical about everything.
Speaker 1: So if I hadn't been there, if I hadn't had
Speaker 1: that experience. I would have thought that this was a
Speaker 1: trailer for some type of thriller, but this happened. I
Speaker 1: was there. And also we did investigations on a lot
Speaker 1: of houses through on Civil War battle sites, and there's
Speaker 1: been a few times that I was in the house.
Speaker 1: And also on the opposite side of that spectrum, I've
Speaker 1: been in houses where people had killed themselves, like been
Speaker 1: inside the room waiting for something to happen and fall asleep.
Speaker 1: Dan Kulick's ud right next door. He is just supposedly haunted.
Speaker 1: It was it was weird. I slept over there with
Speaker 1: Brandon and Drago and all these like Confederate flags all
Speaker 1: over the house. It was like, this is a little
Speaker 1: too weird for me. But I don't have any issues.
Speaker 1: But it's funny that you said Confederate sized, like some
Speaker 1: Confederate hospital. The thousands of people were killed, and no
Speaker 1: that they were killed horribly. They were shot and then
Speaker 1: they had just amputate. They had no idea about medical procedure,
Speaker 1: they had no idea about infecttion, no idea about anything.
Speaker 1: But there were some because I've had to respond to situations.
Speaker 1: I was in a room one time and I could
Speaker 1: hear somebody walking up the hallway and I thought for
Speaker 1: sure it was another investigator and I was gonna say, hey, man,
Speaker 1: we're investigating up here. They walked, the footsteps came up.
Speaker 1: I was sitting on the floor on the other side
Speaker 1: of the door, and I was waiting for them to
Speaker 1: turn around, and the footsteps came up and there was
Speaker 1: fucking nobody there. Freaky it was. It was. It was
Speaker 1: one of those situations. I was like, Wow, there's something.
Speaker 1: There's definitely something going on. There's a crazy story. Man.
Speaker 1: I feel like the title of this episode should be
Speaker 1: like Steve rawlstond un Navy Seal the Ghostbuster. That's the gay.
Speaker 1: That's just gay. Not not in a good way either. No,
Speaker 1: any kind of gay as good as long as you're
Speaker 1: happy about it. It's just crazy. It's it's a weird
Speaker 1: career path. For one, it's not what dude, that wasn't
Speaker 1: even close to a career. I didn't I never got
Speaker 1: paid for it. I did it on my own time.
Speaker 1: Ever ever since I got out of the commercial real
Speaker 1: estate industry, I've been contracting and yeah, you know that.
Speaker 1: So did you go into this thinging like I'm going
Speaker 1: to debunk something absolutely I absolutely went in thinking these
Speaker 1: people were a bunch of freaking wackos. It's total nonsense.
Speaker 1: And I'm the last person to buy snake oil. It's
Speaker 1: just not going to happen. But I had some experiences
Speaker 1: that just defy logic, that defy scientific examination as we
Speaker 1: know it. And I'm not a I'm not a big
Speaker 1: proponent of organized religion or any of that stuff. But
Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of stuff out there we can't explain.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you think about it, light travels at
Speaker 1: a hundred and eighty six thousand miles per second, right,
Speaker 1: So how old is the light that reaches this when
Speaker 1: it comes from the sun. Mhm. I think that's like
Speaker 1: how space space like we see from the planet spaces
Speaker 1: it's like thousands of years old. In space supposedly continues
Speaker 1: to expand in every direction forever, And they say it's
Speaker 1: actually moving forward fast. It's continuing to expand, and as
Speaker 1: you reach the outer perimeter, it's actually going faster. How
Speaker 1: are we not bleeding out of our eyes just thinking
Speaker 1: about that, you know what? I'm so to think that
Speaker 1: there's some things that we just are incapable of understanding.
Speaker 1: The idea just space like, is it that we haven't
Speaker 1: received that light yet or that's really where it stops
Speaker 1: or is there? Yeah, it's freaking right. And think that
Speaker 1: we were having this experience based on our five senses only,
Speaker 1: because there's the only senses that we know about. And
Speaker 1: I'm the opposite of a conspiracy theorist. I'm the opposite
Speaker 1: of a new wave of new age cat, the opposite
Speaker 1: of that. But there there's a lot of stuff out
Speaker 1: there we just don't know. I think they say those
Speaker 1: are the things that make you go m But and also,
Speaker 1: I have not had a hallucin. You know, I've been
Speaker 1: sober for sixteen years, so I'm not modified. So I'm
Speaker 1: not altered in any form of fashion. I might have
Speaker 1: a little bit too much sugar, a little too much caffeine,
Speaker 1: and some nicotine on occasion, but that's it. That's the
Speaker 1: extent of my for my alteration. So to have these
Speaker 1: experiences and to collect that, to collect that evidence on
Speaker 1: alectronic equipment that I purchased and tested, right, because I'm
Speaker 1: the guy that i'm you know, I'm press checking my
Speaker 1: weapon fifteen times before I axed the vehicle. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm that guy. So how did you go from that
Speaker 1: security that you're doing. Now it's funny, Brandon, you know,
Speaker 1: Brandon Webb. He introduced me to a guy who had
Speaker 1: a specific need. He had some projects that he was
Speaker 1: working on, and I said, hey, this is this is
Speaker 1: my experience, you know, maybe we should meet. So we met.
Speaker 1: We were supposed to meet for for a half hour.
Speaker 1: We end up spending like six hours together. So he
Speaker 1: showed me his company, showed me some of the things
Speaker 1: he was working on, and then he made me an
Speaker 1: offer and I refused, and then about the third offer,
Speaker 1: I said yes. And then I started to take it
Speaker 1: on some projects for him, and then it just it
Speaker 1: just grew. And then I hired Jason to do some things,
Speaker 1: and then I have it just spread word of mouth.
Speaker 1: I do do some surveillance projects and some special investigation
Speaker 1: projects all over the country for people now and all
Speaker 1: through word of mouth. It's it's a perfect, perfect platform
Speaker 1: for guys that got out of a reconnaissance like or
Speaker 1: reconcious surveilance like background, because it's it's what we do best,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, everything else we try to figure
Speaker 1: out when we get out is we're learning something all
Speaker 1: over again. And you know, trying to do it new.
Speaker 1: But that's something that we don't realize. We became really
Speaker 1: good at right because you're you're hunting humans basically, they said,
Speaker 1: you know you're not, You're not putting them down, but
Speaker 1: you're you're It's it's just like hunting, except instead of
Speaker 1: shooting somebody, you're capturing what they're doing on videos. It's
Speaker 1: it's it's close because you can see the guys will
Speaker 1: get the wobble in the videotape where you can tell
Speaker 1: that they're breathing heavy, they're getting excited, the same thing
Speaker 1: that goes down. But then also sometimes you have to
Speaker 1: get up and you get on a follow and I
Speaker 1: and I required that the guys stay fit because you
Speaker 1: might have to get out of the car visit no joke,
Speaker 1: you might have to visit some violence on somebody. It's
Speaker 1: it could happen iecially in some of these neighborhoods. I
Speaker 1: was doing a project in Baltimore, a large project for
Speaker 1: an insurance company, and I was the only Caucasian for
Speaker 1: miles and it was just like like where Mad Max lives.
Speaker 1: The there were two, two or three row houses would
Speaker 1: be fine, and then three or five or seven row
Speaker 1: houses would be torn down and burned. And there were teams, nos,
Speaker 1: not teams part of me, maybe four or five pit bulls,
Speaker 1: groups of four or five pit bulls just roaming around
Speaker 1: the neighborhood. That kind of situation. The prostitutes and the
Speaker 1: drug dealers showed up at eight o'clock. The dudes came
Speaker 1: in and their Mercedes and their BMW's. They picked up
Speaker 1: the deal from the dope men. They picked up the girl.
Speaker 1: They came back twenty minutes later, dropped the girl off.
Speaker 1: The guys were out working at eight o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 1: they were back inside at ten o'clock. And there were
Speaker 1: there were times when people came up to my vehicle.
Speaker 1: I had different plates on it and stuff, and it
Speaker 1: looks just like a regular vehicle. You can look inside
Speaker 1: of it, but there's a there's space in their surveillance
Speaker 1: space and that you just can't see. So there were
Speaker 1: times where groups individuals came up and I had to
Speaker 1: you know, I was videotape and I have a concealed
Speaker 1: carry and all that ship, but I was videotaping, and
Speaker 1: if you know, one of those guys would have done
Speaker 1: the wrong thing, I would have had to respond, you know,
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, I'm always gonna
Speaker 1: pick me and you're always gonna pick you, you know,
Speaker 1: So it's it's a it's a good deal. It's been
Speaker 1: a good life for me. Jason remembers, Uh, we had
Speaker 1: Ammi Tobin on not too long ago does security. And
Speaker 1: the reason I bring this up it was interesting is
Speaker 1: that he doesn't seem to carry practically anything, and he's
Speaker 1: a security guy. So I wanted, like, what do you carry?
Speaker 1: I carry? It depends, It depends on the situation. If
Speaker 1: I'm I I will carry a glock twenty six with
Speaker 1: me and at least one magazine. I carry a knife
Speaker 1: with me all the time. I carry a pen with
Speaker 1: a stabbing point on it. I also carry carry mace,
Speaker 1: normally a couple of cans. And by the way, you
Speaker 1: say the pen with the stabbing point, I'm working behind you.
Speaker 1: We were that clin Emerson post deadly skills, and now
Speaker 1: he has numbers. Now he has a new one out
Speaker 1: with the tungus and steel point, the special window. No, Clint,
Speaker 1: you think I got some good soils. Clint is the
Speaker 1: real deal. Seriously, He's a everybody wants to be the
Speaker 1: bastard child of you know, Jesus, James Borne or part
Speaker 1: of me Jason Borne and James Bond. I want to
Speaker 1: be I want to be the offspring of that love triangle,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But Clint Clints the real deal. Now, seriously,
Speaker 1: if I got nothing, nothing but good things to say
Speaker 1: about that guy, and he's he's made everything I've done
Speaker 1: look like kindergarten, and he would not say it. You know,
Speaker 1: He's He's the He's the real thing you mission impossible.
Speaker 1: That's him for sure. I've just I've been the only
Speaker 1: thing I would have to say. I have been extraordinarily lucky.
Speaker 1: I've been dedicated, and like I said, it's it doesn't
Speaker 1: count how many times you get knocked down. It's how
Speaker 1: many times you get back up and what you can
Speaker 1: do to help other people. And now it's it's difficult
Speaker 1: to wrap your brain around out, especially in today's society,
Speaker 1: when you're being fed all this nonsense by advertising. You're
Speaker 1: supposed to drink this and wear that, and live here
Speaker 1: and drive that and do this. But if you're just
Speaker 1: a good person you're helping, you're gonna go places that
Speaker 1: in the amount of access we give people in order
Speaker 1: to pass their judgment, especially with the social media and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. I mean, it's not like you're not accessible.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're online, you know you're you're a target,
Speaker 1: you know, whether you look at it or not, because
Speaker 1: things are. You got people that are gonna love you,
Speaker 1: and people are gonna hate you, and if and if
Speaker 1: you hate me, I'm open to that ship. You know, seriously,
Speaker 1: it's at Ralston st E r A L S t
Speaker 1: O n ST that right you want, they don't want it.
Speaker 1: I'm not hard to find a little advance morning. This
Speaker 1: isn't the guy to funk with. No, that's just because
Speaker 1: I'm I'm hung like a code with frightened baby spider.
Speaker 1: So what Why Why do you like the glock? Because
Speaker 1: Brandon has said he carries the glock as well on
Speaker 1: his big thing. He always says there's no safety. He
Speaker 1: doesn't like having a safety. Well, I like it one
Speaker 1: because it's smallest compact. You very, very seldom have a
Speaker 1: problem with it. As long as you are familiar with it,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna have a problem. And it's so easy
Speaker 1: to conceal. And not that I hate to say it,
Speaker 1: but I'm a fucking white guy. Nobody's gonna bother me.
Speaker 1: I look like I look like everybody, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And I'm definitely I'm a little I'm a
Speaker 1: little bit more fit. I have to be conscious of
Speaker 1: not carrying, especially in New York and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: because you see me on the street, I have high
Speaker 1: What he's saying is I have a higher probability of
Speaker 1: getting pulled over. And first, and for you, it's your
Speaker 1: tattoos on your hand. And now you don't, dude, I
Speaker 1: love you like your brother, but you look a little
Speaker 1: bit ethnic, you know exactly. But that's why I got
Speaker 1: to work where we work the racial profile, and that
Speaker 1: happens all day every day, and you and we we
Speaker 1: say it doesn't. But I gotta tell your racial profile,
Speaker 1: those safe thousands and thousands of lives, not just here
Speaker 1: but everywhere. And that stuff exists for a reason because
Speaker 1: you're more likely to have violence in certain groups of people.
Speaker 1: And that's just the way it goes down. But granted,
Speaker 1: the mass shooters are all white guys, but the majority
Speaker 1: of those things would have been prevented by armed citizens,
Speaker 1: unless you know, we're talking about the Islamic terrorist mash shooters.
Speaker 1: But the home grown No I'm talking about I'm talking
Speaker 1: about the problems in our country. Yeah, well, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking of well not mass shooters from things
Speaker 1: like the Snio saw that, you know. But yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1: I think every community has their their problems. So I
Speaker 1: guess is that safe to safe for both you guys.
Speaker 1: You're for the stop and frisk stuff. I lived in
Speaker 1: New York actively when they had their stopping frisk program
Speaker 1: in full swing, and I was stopped a couple of times.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't have crap on me, but um, yeah,
Speaker 1: they took a lot of ship off the streets during
Speaker 1: that period. New York quiet down significantly with that program
Speaker 1: in place, because it got to the point, I remember,
Speaker 1: up to that point, everyone was packing, everyone carried a
Speaker 1: large amount of drugs on them, transporting left and right.
Speaker 1: I mean, we used the law to circumvent you know,
Speaker 1: or you know, to transport out in the streets whatever
Speaker 1: until that happened. When that happened, it got to a
Speaker 1: point where were so scared to bring anything out they
Speaker 1: just stopped because they knew the chances of them getting
Speaker 1: for his daily it was extremely high, and you had
Speaker 1: police officers and NYPD patrolling like four or five at
Speaker 1: a time, one going down south on one avenue and
Speaker 1: the other ones coming up north on that avenue, and
Speaker 1: they would just pull guys randomly looking crazy. Hey, come,
Speaker 1: here's check the sweats. You know. The you know controversy though,
Speaker 1: because you often talk about on the show, like what
Speaker 1: about the kid who stopped with a small amount of pot?
Speaker 1: Not doing any harm? You know, and you know, it
Speaker 1: all depends on what's in place for that that that
Speaker 1: government municipality. I mean, if they're gonna just do desk
Speaker 1: appearance tickets for a small amount of marijuana, you're getting
Speaker 1: caught with it, you know what I mean. Well, they
Speaker 1: don't even do now they I mean, they decriminalize marijuana,
Speaker 1: but police officers are using it to open up the
Speaker 1: door to you know, warrant searches, vehicle searches, stuff like that.
Speaker 1: You know, they it's a it's an excuse for them
Speaker 1: to you know, pat you down, and it's just something
Speaker 1: you to live with. It mean, if you're walking around
Speaker 1: with weed on you and you get pulled over, you
Speaker 1: just lost the game, bro. And it's been my experience
Speaker 1: with cops because I've done some right alongs and things
Speaker 1: of that nature. If you tell the cop what's going on,
Speaker 1: you show up, he shows up to your car. You
Speaker 1: got your license and registration, he asked you, says, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got some weed right here. Lots of time she'll
Speaker 1: just take it and dump it, you know, because especially
Speaker 1: here in this city, those these guys are here to
Speaker 1: save your life. They're not here to hassle you. Some are, though,
Speaker 1: don't give me wrong. Some are just assholes. Of course.
Speaker 1: It's a general population. That's just the way young to
Speaker 1: They're young punks, a lot of them, you know. Some
Speaker 1: of them are fresh out their mother's basement, you know,
Speaker 1: and then you give the video games, give them, give
Speaker 1: them this authority, and you know, just be honest. Some
Speaker 1: of them are there, but I'm not talking about the
Speaker 1: more respectable ones that are doing the job and doing
Speaker 1: things of that nature. Your experience has been different than mine,
Speaker 1: and I agree with that, But I also could sit
Speaker 1: here in the same at the same moment and admit that, yeah,
Speaker 1: we do a lot of wrong fun in the hood,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's hard. It's hard out there.
Speaker 1: It's out there, but it's because we grew up in that. So,
Speaker 1: like you said, when you grew up the way you
Speaker 1: grew up. It's a different deal you thought. Morally, it's
Speaker 1: just what goes down, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 1: funny that you mentioned that you're talking about morally the
Speaker 1: when you're when you're getting ready to get out of training,
Speaker 1: and budge like, if you like the six hundred question
Speaker 1: psychological eval And I took it, and then the very
Speaker 1: next day they had me come back and take it again.
Speaker 1: It's like a four hour test. I'm like, Jesus Christ,
Speaker 1: or are you serious? And then the lady sent me
Speaker 1: down and said, Mr Ralston, we'd like to discuss your
Speaker 1: moral flexibility. She says, you have a great attitude and
Speaker 1: you're going places, but you have a certain moral flexibility
Speaker 1: that we find alarming. You mean I'm not perfect for
Speaker 1: the job. Sounds like I'm perfect at the job. I'm
Speaker 1: here here to drink beer and fun fat chicks. I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, I've never really understood how some guys could fail.
Speaker 1: So Pike vows, you know what I realized. It's those
Speaker 1: motherfucker's that tell the truth, right. I don't think anyone
Speaker 1: that ministers a psychologically val wants to hear the truth.
Speaker 1: They want to see if you're fucking smart enough not
Speaker 1: to tell the truth. You know. I remember one kid
Speaker 1: specifically taking a screening for a certain group. He got
Speaker 1: booted anyway, it doesn't matter. I remember so long ago. Um,
Speaker 1: this kid, no ship divulged that he had an affair
Speaker 1: overseas during a deployment and he was married and he
Speaker 1: slept with the prostitute in Thailand or some ship it was.
Speaker 1: It was probably a lady boy, and he was trying
Speaker 1: to get some points for it, you know. And I'm
Speaker 1: and I remember because I was I was a part
Speaker 1: of the cadre doing the selection assessment, and I'm just there.
Speaker 1: I wasn't really involved in it. On just their bullshitting
Speaker 1: and I'm in the background, and you know, they come
Speaker 1: in with the folder and say, hey, we gotta drop
Speaker 1: this kid. And this kid was you know, he's been
Speaker 1: in the community for a while. Yea solid cat. And
Speaker 1: we said why, but the guys doing the psyche, we're
Speaker 1: fucking doctors. They weren't military guys, you know. So once
Speaker 1: we transition to so calm, you know, we had that
Speaker 1: we needed that. Well that's what they told us, you
Speaker 1: have to use these doctors. So once they nixed them.
Speaker 1: We found out why they nixed them, and it was
Speaker 1: because he cheated on his wife during a deployment exactly.
Speaker 1: So if he could cheat the way they said. The
Speaker 1: doctor said if he could cheat on his wife, that
Speaker 1: he could cheat on his government. So I was like,
Speaker 1: that's not accurate. I think it's definitely not accurate because
Speaker 1: most kids at that fucking age that go on deployments,
Speaker 1: you know, when in Rome do as the Romans do.
Speaker 1: You know. What I will say is he funked up
Speaker 1: by even saying that what business was it of there?
Speaker 1: So if you're going to take a psyche about that's
Speaker 1: how they know you're crazy if you tell them the truth,
Speaker 1: like this kid's crazy. Well, in my situation, I was.
Speaker 1: I was not yet twenty and it was it was
Speaker 1: to two of the command seals and then some civilian woman.
Speaker 1: But told him the truth and they just said, we
Speaker 1: want to discuss your moral flexibility and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: what's the problem. And they didn't have one obviously because
Speaker 1: here I am. But there was lots of fun anyway,
Speaker 1: good ship right there. It's funny. I did, uh. I
Speaker 1: did get accepted to go to DEV group after my
Speaker 1: first see your platoon, and we did the interview and
Speaker 1: I didn't take the assignment because I'm a dumbass. But
Speaker 1: the you take, you take another psyche val and they
Speaker 1: sit around you and a semicircle and you sit in
Speaker 1: the middle and they fire questions at you. And one
Speaker 1: of the questions was, Mr. Ralston, you don't seem very
Speaker 1: aggressive or assertive. How do we know that you'll be
Speaker 1: able to do what we might need you to do?
Speaker 1: And I was, you know, I was still consume with
Speaker 1: self centered fear. It was important to me what other
Speaker 1: people thought. And I was visibly shaken by this. So
Speaker 1: I grabbed ahold of the chair and I looked down
Speaker 1: and I said, well, you can ask my oh I
Speaker 1: see my chief, my l p O, and my former
Speaker 1: oh I C in chief and LPO, and they'll tell
Speaker 1: you I should be able to do what you might
Speaker 1: need me to do. Yeah, that's all I have to
Speaker 1: say about that. That's also question. How do we know?
Speaker 1: They were trying to push my buttons. They were trying
Speaker 1: to get me to say, fuck you, I'll bite your eye,
Speaker 1: hunting funk your dead skull eleven you made it there
Speaker 1: you go? You know the Virginia Junior Bastard. Do you
Speaker 1: remember during the Republican primary debates that they it was
Speaker 1: actually hu Huit or whatever. He's like conservative talk personality,
Speaker 1: which I was surprised he asked this, like got your question?
Speaker 1: You remember he asked Dr Ben Carson. He was like,
Speaker 1: Dr Ben Carson, You've done brain surgery, You've saved countless kids.
Speaker 1: He was like, are you prepared to go to war
Speaker 1: and kill civilians and like kill children? Like, how do
Speaker 1: you answer that? Quick? You know what I mean? Not
Speaker 1: intention of a weird question, The answer would be yes,
Speaker 1: since I'm not doing the killing, all I gotta saying
Speaker 1: is do it I'm in. It was such a weird
Speaker 1: question because it reminds me of exactly what you just said,
Speaker 1: the question of um, you know you're not aggressive, because
Speaker 1: Ben Carson is like this really even tempered guy, right,
Speaker 1: So it's just it was a strange question. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: like the photo negative of Mr Rogers, right, And that
Speaker 1: question was totally set up. No, I'm just thinking like
Speaker 1: why would you ask anyone that question? Like that's a setup,
Speaker 1: that's like how long have you been gay for? You know,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, you didn't even ask me if I
Speaker 1: was gay or not? When when did you stop beating
Speaker 1: your wife? Wait a minute, I'm gonna see it, find
Speaker 1: it because it was so it was a really weird
Speaker 1: fucking question. And maybe I won't find it if I
Speaker 1: don't know. Well, that's all right, we forgive you. Now.
Speaker 1: He's the guy in the chair. Yeah, he's in the
Speaker 1: chair igan? Why you? Why is your Why is your
Speaker 1: chair humming? That's weird coming up to your six? That's
Speaker 1: he's got He was the dude and Punisher that got
Speaker 1: beyond the chair. Oh yeah, have you watch Punisher yet?
Speaker 1: I have not doing I need to watch it. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm watching. What am I watching? I would just
Speaker 1: watch the Stephen King The Mist on Netflix? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a pretty good run. I'm watching the Penny
Speaker 1: Dreadful series. It's about werewolves and vampires and wacky ship
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, and it's got a bunch of wacky
Speaker 1: sex in it too, which is you know, weird. Pen
Speaker 1: is good? Yeah, all right, I guess I'm not. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna find it? Well? Um, but and and you
Speaker 1: know we mentioned him earlier. What you wanted to plug?
Speaker 1: West Wind Ye Rogue American Apparel and Invader coffee. All
Speaker 1: funny story. He gave me some of this beard oil,
Speaker 1: you know, and you look nice. Thanks, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I know, I know you weren't gay, but
Speaker 1: but if I was, if I was, you'd be banging me.
Speaker 1: But no. The the funny thing is, he gave me
Speaker 1: this beard oil, and I'm I'm only friends with females
Speaker 1: that are gay, just because, just because it's smarter and
Speaker 1: it's just better that way. So I've asked, you know,
Speaker 1: a bunch of these lesbians what they think of my
Speaker 1: beard oil. So I texted westback. I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: man Ford, lesbians love your beard oils. You know it worked.
Speaker 1: If lesbians love your beard oil, you know it's good ship.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Yeah. Well, and then Clint to
Speaker 1: Clint Emerson for the hundred Deadly Skills. Check out his
Speaker 1: deal at Skills. He's got a bunch of stuff going on.
Speaker 1: He teaches classes and stuff like that. And also by
Speaker 1: Jason's book Bonnie Hunter, Gotta buy it, Gotta buy it.
Speaker 1: We're pals, That's what I'm talking about. So I've actually
Speaker 1: found the question, let's hear it. Yeah, expect then are
Speaker 1: inspired by your life story, your kindness, your evangelical course support.
Speaker 1: We're talking about ruth things tonight, carpet bombing, toughness, war,
Speaker 1: and people wonder could you do that? Could you order
Speaker 1: air strikes that would kill innocent children by not the scores,
Speaker 1: but the hundreds and the thousands? Could you wage war
Speaker 1: as a commander in chief? Well? Interestingly enough, you should
Speaker 1: see the eyes of some of those children when I
Speaker 1: say to them, We're going to have to open your
Speaker 1: head up and take out this tumor. They're not happy
Speaker 1: about it, believe me, and they don't like me very
Speaker 1: much at that point, but later on they love me.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you I sound like him, Uh Lynn you. He
Speaker 1: did a good job responding to it. But to me,
Speaker 1: that was like, what a fucking got you question? From
Speaker 1: a guy who's you know, conservative? It was just a
Speaker 1: weird Are you going to be able to carpet children
Speaker 1: only if I'm sitting naked eating What kind of question
Speaker 1: is that? Are you kidding me? And how do you
Speaker 1: how do you give a good only? If I could watch?
Speaker 1: And then he goes, I look into the eyes of
Speaker 1: these children. I think he's gonna go look into their
Speaker 1: melted skulls. What are you talking about? You go over there,
Speaker 1: you're doing I think he did a good job of
Speaker 1: kind of he pulled it back when he was like
Speaker 1: what I told him, I have to open up their
Speaker 1: heads up. Okay, I thought you were talking about the
Speaker 1: carpet box. You look into their eyes, you're the man
Speaker 1: for the job. You're pretty cold. I looked, I look,
Speaker 1: I'm watching, I'm watching the video from the missiles. I'm
Speaker 1: looking into their eyes right before they detonate, and I'm
Speaker 1: digging it, am I Right though, what an awful question.
Speaker 1: That's great man. He was trying to put that guy
Speaker 1: on the spot, and he did it. I mean, was
Speaker 1: it was it a little bit off the wall and
Speaker 1: a little bit sideways he was he was trying to
Speaker 1: put the could have been to President United States under
Speaker 1: the rest. He did it. Yeah, he was successful. Maybe
Speaker 1: he could he have chosen a different tactic, sure, but
Speaker 1: he got the response he was looking for. He definitely
Speaker 1: stopped that guy in the strap. Actually thought about it me,
Speaker 1: I would have been like, you know, greased up and naked,
Speaker 1: I'm in something the whacky like that and really, holy shit,
Speaker 1: I mean Trump said a lot of crazy ship and
Speaker 1: he because what he said, dude, like said he I'm
Speaker 1: sure he tweeted a bunch of crazy ships. Since we've
Speaker 1: been soon you're talking, well you are. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you remember. Actually while the whole election was going on,
Speaker 1: like there was a big almost campaign of this audience
Speaker 1: who wanted Mike Ritland to be president. That would have
Speaker 1: been so awesome. I would get all these tweets hashtag
Speaker 1: Mike Ritland for President. And there were actually people who
Speaker 1: were like soccer radioissons who wrote in Mike Ritland for President.
Speaker 1: That's actually I don't I don't know him personally. I've
Speaker 1: listened to some of the stuff. I don't know. My
Speaker 1: sounds like a great dude. I'm sure he is. So
Speaker 1: what's what he trick? Ghost? Is this Kandel right? Trys Kandell? Yeah,
Speaker 1: go check out Go check out his stuff too, Mike
Speaker 1: Ritland for President t shirt nice he made them after
Speaker 1: that whole thing. He's sleeping it don't Yeah, you can
Speaker 1: tell us, but I think people like him because he's
Speaker 1: just such a no bullshit guy. He just come on
Speaker 1: the podcast to be like these politicians they're all full
Speaker 1: of ship and just tells it out they should have
Speaker 1: to wear uniforms like NASCAR drivers. Man, I've heard they should.
Speaker 1: I've I've heard that too, they should have to so
Speaker 1: we can see exactly who bought these guys. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: I got a question for Steve Um obviously, what all
Speaker 1: the Navy Seals coming out in their success after after work,
Speaker 1: after the fact. What do you feel about that as
Speaker 1: far as guys coming out and actually continuing on within
Speaker 1: the genre or within the field, you know, and then
Speaker 1: getting into us stuff like coffee, security work, and you know,
Speaker 1: I think being on that public platform, everybody's on their
Speaker 1: own path. Man, everybody's on their own journey. And I'm
Speaker 1: the I've got no no place to judge anyone for
Speaker 1: anything that they've done, you know what I mean. If
Speaker 1: and if people are out there and they're they're enjoying
Speaker 1: some success and and they're helping himself and they're helping
Speaker 1: the community, as long as they're giving back and helping out,
Speaker 1: I got nothing bad to say. And the reality is,
Speaker 1: as long as you're not hurting anyone, I could give
Speaker 1: a hoot bucket of funk what you're doing. You know,
Speaker 1: if the guys are out there making money, making movies,
Speaker 1: making books, I mean, a lot of people were throwing
Speaker 1: rocks at Brandon for the success that he's experienced because
Speaker 1: of the hard work he's done. Fuck them, they were
Speaker 1: just they're just jealous because they weren't the prime mover
Speaker 1: and the establishment and he was. So if guys can
Speaker 1: get out and write books, make movies, sell products, sell coffee,
Speaker 1: sell t shirts, sell condoms, who cares. They're out there
Speaker 1: doing the right thing. They're helping themselves, they're helping the
Speaker 1: community because regardless of how much money they make, that
Speaker 1: money is going back into the system in some form
Speaker 1: or fashion. So they're helping. And if they're going to
Speaker 1: get out and do what they do to generate revenue,
Speaker 1: you know, God love them. They've they've done the work,
Speaker 1: they've put the time in, so why shouldn't. And for
Speaker 1: a long time, of course, this was this was a
Speaker 1: lot of these men's career for years. So after they
Speaker 1: get out, I mean, what else could you revert to it?
Speaker 1: And this isn't this isn't new. People been writing books
Speaker 1: about this stuff forever, and now people were I think
Speaker 1: the words getting out now because everybody has a voice
Speaker 1: because of these social media platforms. Everybody can say anything.
Speaker 1: They want to, and if it's outrageous enough, they'll get
Speaker 1: some of nurse so they'll get some momentum. They'll they'll
Speaker 1: form a foundation, of course, and you're gonna have the
Speaker 1: good guys and you're gonna have the bad guys. But
Speaker 1: like we were talking about earlier, a couple of individuals
Speaker 1: that they won't get an airplay on here, not for me,
Speaker 1: but to any time. It's been my experience. At any
Speaker 1: time anyone is angry or wants to put somebody else down,
Speaker 1: it's because they're afraid. They're afraid that there's not enough
Speaker 1: for them. There's not enough success. There's not enough money,
Speaker 1: there's not enough tension, there's not enough girlfriends, there's not
Speaker 1: enough whatever. At nauseum, there's not enough. It's a lie.
Speaker 1: There's an endless supply of everything. All you gotta do
Speaker 1: is go out and work for those people are just
Speaker 1: jealous and they're angry and they're afraid that they're not
Speaker 1: going to get there. So I'm not going to get
Speaker 1: their success. And if you're afraid, it's never gonna show up,
Speaker 1: it's just not any chance of Steve Rauston book in
Speaker 1: the Future, not about me, man am I I'm a
Speaker 1: pretty boring cat, and I do not think our audience
Speaker 1: will find that boring. I thought you're pretty interesting if
Speaker 1: I do. If I do, it'll be fixing. Now I
Speaker 1: didn't think you're pretty and you're fucking interesting, dude. I
Speaker 1: don't know. And your story would be different than all
Speaker 1: these guys because it wouldn't be the combat veteran story. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I'm the I'm the only guy. That's the
Speaker 1: funny thing is I I got my confirmed killed before
Speaker 1: I did anything, and um, you know it's I that's
Speaker 1: a little bit what maybe crass is probably the wrong word,
Speaker 1: but is it an insensitive cats? Insensitive? But the reality
Speaker 1: is I've carried that around for a long time and
Speaker 1: that's uh the one instance and in my existence that's
Speaker 1: completely formed me as a human. I've got nothing to
Speaker 1: be afraid of. I've I have given everything away and
Speaker 1: I'm I'm rebuilding and I really don't have a negative
Speaker 1: thing to say about anyone. I'm happy that people have
Speaker 1: enjoyed various amounts of success. I wish the best for
Speaker 1: everyone and I just want to be as helpful as
Speaker 1: I can. But you do have in that in that aspect,
Speaker 1: you do have a lot to offer, you know, you
Speaker 1: have a choir or attain a certain amount of success
Speaker 1: while struggling with demons, you know. And I think there's
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that are followed in your footsteps,
Speaker 1: are are following in your footsteps. I kind of want
Speaker 1: to hear that positive reinforcement and just you know, well,
Speaker 1: if there's if there's anybody out there listening, and you
Speaker 1: know they reach out to me, I'm available, man, because
Speaker 1: fucking late at night, when you're there by yourself, when
Speaker 1: you're afraid and the fucking demons come, you can fucking
Speaker 1: call me, man and we'll fight those motherfucker's together. It's real, Bro,
Speaker 1: and Jo, I should throw in your martial arts enthusias.
Speaker 1: Like I said, that's just guys. I'm sure fat and ugly.
Speaker 1: I've had I've had to defend myself now. I'm a
Speaker 1: I'm a fucking I am a thy king, thy kickboxing guy.
Speaker 1: I practice it a little bit and I'm more of
Speaker 1: a more of a weightlifter and the core strength and
Speaker 1: a kettlebell guy. You know what I mean. I can't
Speaker 1: and the reason I'm not a B J J guy.
Speaker 1: I can't. I'm old man, I can't have people fucking
Speaker 1: touching me. But I'll fucking put a leg kick on
Speaker 1: you and drop you down before you know what's happening,
Speaker 1: because I can't have you touching me, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, because you're gonna you know, because I don't
Speaker 1: want to stab you, I don't want to shoot you,
Speaker 1: but I'm sure it's not gonna let you touch me.
Speaker 1: I guess I thought b j J because that's what
Speaker 1: Jason is doing, and we were talking more for it's
Speaker 1: the last time. I'm just doing it. I'm familiar with
Speaker 1: doing it for working out guys, not because I want
Speaker 1: to learn how to fight. I can already. Yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: motherfucker you know. But the point is it's it's I
Speaker 1: think what you're saying. It was like with the whole
Speaker 1: b j J thing. We discussed this before. It's just
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a thing. It's a sport, right,
Speaker 1: and where you're wrestling the ground and trying to want
Speaker 1: up the guy in the ground. But the reality is,
Speaker 1: if you're in the line of work that you know
Speaker 1: that we were in, right you you don't got time
Speaker 1: to roll around the floor. In fact, the moment you
Speaker 1: can break away break the funk away, pull out your
Speaker 1: pistol and put in his eye exactly. So that's that's
Speaker 1: a whole different thing. And that's how we train martial
Speaker 1: arts wise in the military or and when you start
Speaker 1: getting up into the specialized units, you start learning how
Speaker 1: to break away, create that distance and pull out your
Speaker 1: your secondary whatever it is, kill him and get the
Speaker 1: job over with and keep that because you can't afford
Speaker 1: to be touching somebody. That's too much time, you know,
Speaker 1: because that's just you know that you can't be dealing
Speaker 1: with somebody. I mean, if it's if it's captured, you're
Speaker 1: gonna take him with you, then that's a different deal.
Speaker 1: But you can't have somebody touching you and not I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm old and frail man. I can't take it. Well.
Speaker 1: I think what what you and I are talking about
Speaker 1: was the last time we spoke, I was I was
Speaker 1: asking you about boxing because I yeah, of course it
Speaker 1: was affair. And when I work with guys, because I
Speaker 1: work with all kinds of people you can imagine, try
Speaker 1: to help them get out of whatever problem or have.
Speaker 1: And I asked him if they ever been punched in
Speaker 1: the face, and they look at me like a dog
Speaker 1: looking at a ceiling fan, you know, like to be fair.
Speaker 1: My answer was yes, no, no, no, I hear you,
Speaker 1: and I'm with you. Bro, This isn't a dig on you.
Speaker 1: But you know, I hear you. Know the audience knows
Speaker 1: that you've been in a scrap or two. Bro. You
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta give that to them. They're smarter than
Speaker 1: your average bear. But the reason I say that because
Speaker 1: if you've never been punched in the face, then then
Speaker 1: I don't think you've had a real experience. You've never
Speaker 1: experienced real pain. You don't you because I think after
Speaker 1: you've been punched in the face, you realize you're not
Speaker 1: gonna break. It's gonna hurt, it's gonna suck, but you're
Speaker 1: gonna get over it. And that's the same about everything.
Speaker 1: If you think about it, you're gonna be uncomfortable in life.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's gonna hurt, sometimes it's gonna suck, but you're
Speaker 1: gonna get sucking over it. You just gotta keep going,
Speaker 1: keep going. Like I said before, it doesn't matter how
Speaker 1: many times you get knocked down. It matters how many
Speaker 1: times you get back up. You know, because I have
Speaker 1: still a lot of skin Man a lot. Would I
Speaker 1: be crazy to say Steve needs his own podcast? Like
Speaker 1: I said, will you only say that because I'm sure
Speaker 1: I have that same you know, because I know you're
Speaker 1: into Jocko well, and I feel like Steven has the
Speaker 1: same day. I think a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: men like Steve that once they get to that point
Speaker 1: in their life where they have that wisdom to offer,
Speaker 1: you know, especially guys that are still like look at
Speaker 1: me in my lost face and saying, you know, relax man,
Speaker 1: I could tell you're kind of freaking out, you know.
Speaker 1: But he has that wisdom abouttom where he can he
Speaker 1: knows when it's time to say something to you because
Speaker 1: he can see it, can smell it on you, you you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And like like a fart in
Speaker 1: the car exactly like I did it. I don't it's
Speaker 1: gonna be okay. Yeah, he's not gonna ask who just farted.
Speaker 1: We're only two people in the car. He knows it's
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Speaker 1: st e r A L s t O n s
Speaker 1: t E. He posts some awesome pictures his awesome view
Speaker 1: from your house. Yeah, exactly from my house. It's now
Speaker 1: what we love it. The funny thing is we wanted
Speaker 1: to have the New York experience, and every day it's
Speaker 1: like living the movie. When my signing, when my fiance
Speaker 1: isn't there. There's lots of times I won't even turn
Speaker 1: the lights on, you know, because I get up at
Speaker 1: four o'clock in the morning, I'm home, it's sick, so
Speaker 1: it's dark, so I just keep the curtains up. I
Speaker 1: don't turn the lights on, and you just look around.
Speaker 1: You look out at the Empire State Building, over to
Speaker 1: New Yorker, down at the Freedom Tower up into Harlem.
Speaker 1: It's amazing Jason has been there. I will say that
Speaker 1: I know people that pay way more damn near double,
Speaker 1: and they have nothing, nothing compared to the view that
Speaker 1: he has, Like it is breathtaking. I've lived down here
Speaker 1: my whole life, and I've never seen New York in
Speaker 1: that light. Like sitting in his fucking living room, now
Speaker 1: we'll dude, we'll have to get you over there. And
Speaker 1: it's it really is amazing. I feel, like I told
Speaker 1: you before, I've been incredibly lucky because I have, you know,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say God, I'm gonna I'm gonna say God,
Speaker 1: God has been incredibly, incredibly, incredibly good to me. And
Speaker 1: my God, have you ever seen have you ever seen
Speaker 1: a matrix? If I had to personify God, my God
Speaker 1: would look like the Oracle and the matrix. You know, seriously,
Speaker 1: a a a black grandmother who smokes cigarettes and makes
Speaker 1: cookies just looks and she's no, she's gonna love you regardless.
Speaker 1: She's not mad at you for jerking off. You know,
Speaker 1: she's gonna she's gonna love you no matter what. But
Speaker 1: whatever God is has been incredibly good to me because
Speaker 1: I live in that place and I'm just happy to
Speaker 1: get up every day and do the deal and I'm
Speaker 1: happy that all my limbs still work and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: But I feel like I should be, like I should
Speaker 1: be writing a great American classic, you know. Living in
Speaker 1: that place, looking at those buildings, it's it's just so inspirational.
Speaker 1: Every day, even when it's raining and when it's now,
Speaker 1: and I'm no joke. You know, I'll get you. Let's
Speaker 1: get We'll get on the books, get you over the
Speaker 1: next week you can see what I'm talking about. All
Speaker 1: three of us will go out to dinner and come
Speaker 1: back to my place and have a drink and we'll
Speaker 1: raise up all the all the blinds and you can
Speaker 1: see what's going on. Because it is truly amazing this. Uh.
Speaker 1: Anybody who knocks this city has never seen it from
Speaker 1: a from a place like acid like that, or anybody
Speaker 1: who knocks this country has never had that experience to
Speaker 1: come over and see what's available. All you all you
Speaker 1: really have to do is work and you can get it.
Speaker 1: Like that's when you think of New York and all
Speaker 1: the romantic visions that are played out in Hollywood. It's
Speaker 1: that that's a view man, because like I said, I
Speaker 1: don't feel that way. I'm jaded when when it when
Speaker 1: it comes to New York and like when people come
Speaker 1: here for the first time, you know, I kind of
Speaker 1: get excited because you kind of live vicaratly through them
Speaker 1: when they're looking at the big buildings and their eyes
Speaker 1: are open. But I never felt that until I sat
Speaker 1: in its breaking apartment and it's like, Wow, this is
Speaker 1: my city. I'm proud of it again. Degree views from
Speaker 1: the Intrepid, the whole way up to Harlem, the whole
Speaker 1: way across the city, over to the Empire State Building,
Speaker 1: down to the New Yorker, down to the Freedom Tower,
Speaker 1: and down over to Hoboken. I miss about twenty degrees
Speaker 1: behind me. That's I think it's like a per eight
Speaker 1: teen maybe or something. But it's just it's just phenomenal,
Speaker 1: it really is. It's breathtaking, and it's it's uh to
Speaker 1: think the first no joke, the first house I lived
Speaker 1: in had a had an outhouse mhm. And to think
Speaker 1: that this kid from Pennsylvania who literally grew up with nothing,
Speaker 1: I'm living here doing this deal, having the time of
Speaker 1: my life all day every day. You know, granted it's
Speaker 1: not a twenty four hour orgasm, but it's pretty good.
Speaker 1: You know. It's like that spirit of you know, when
Speaker 1: you look at that industry and free enterprise, and especially
Speaker 1: in this current climate where everything is you know, I'm
Speaker 1: putting air quotes up like toxic masculinity, Like its great
Speaker 1: men who built those buildings, right, I think people need
Speaker 1: to remember that great Yeah. And the thing is I'm
Speaker 1: a I'm and I said earlier that I don't believe
Speaker 1: that males and females should be mixed in combat units.
Speaker 1: But I'm a huge proponent of equal rights across the board, Blacks, whites, browns,
Speaker 1: whatever the funk. I could give a ship less about that.
Speaker 1: And women should have the same exact chances that men do,
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of women that went unnoticed for
Speaker 1: the contributions they made to our great nation, and there's
Speaker 1: a lot of them that are that are victimized and
Speaker 1: horse ship like that going on right now. But the
Speaker 1: you know, having three daughters, you know that that change
Speaker 1: that change the things, and not that men if it.
Speaker 1: Women are much stronger than we are. There. They figure
Speaker 1: it out about twenty five. Guys don't figure it out
Speaker 1: the little about thirty. Regardless, every little thing, everything a
Speaker 1: little girl does, there's a romant reason for it. Everything
Speaker 1: a little boy does, he's gonna slam his head into
Speaker 1: something until he realizes it hurts. And that's just the
Speaker 1: reality of it. They got us beat. They gotta speed
Speaker 1: hands down, and you know they don't. They don't get
Speaker 1: the accolades that they deserve. And don't get me wrong, man,
Speaker 1: I'm a you know, I'm a caveman just like everyone else.
Speaker 1: But the reality is they don't get a fair shake
Speaker 1: of all the time, and I think that's bullshit. It is.
Speaker 1: I love this episode, man, thanks for coming on, Steve.
Speaker 1: Any anything else from either of you guys before we
Speaker 1: uh yeah, by Jason's book man Bound Hunt for three. Yeah, seriously,
Speaker 1: go check out Clint a hundred Deadly Skills and then
Speaker 1: go to Rogue American. Check out those guys. They are
Speaker 1: Rogue American Appair of West Whitlock. And then there's uh
Speaker 1: delicious Jay and I can't think of the rest of
Speaker 1: the people done there now, but go make sure you
Speaker 1: check out as much off rep stuff as you can
Speaker 1: to create Club Brandon. Brandon is a great guy and
Speaker 1: he's got a bunch of ship he doesn't deserve. So
Speaker 1: I got nothing but good things to say and and
Speaker 1: let the fucking haters come, man, man, dude, and I
Speaker 1: just wanna because to me, this is the tone of
Speaker 1: this episode is I just want to say to those
Speaker 1: veterans out there that are struggling with demons, you know,
Speaker 1: reach out, reach out, man, reach out, get that help.
Speaker 1: There's there's help. Therefore, you, if a minimum, just to
Speaker 1: get your issues out on the table, out in the open,
Speaker 1: to discuss them. You know, don't hold that on your own. Man.
Speaker 1: You got a ton of brothers out there and a
Speaker 1: ton of people willing to help you see through it,
Speaker 1: you know, So take that opportunity to take to take
Speaker 1: advantage of what what's in place, and if at minimum,
Speaker 1: just reach out to a buddy, let them know you're
Speaker 1: all right or you're not all right either, whatever the
Speaker 1: case is, you know, just do that. Yeah, and just
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I can't remember exactly who I'm quoting, but
Speaker 1: the reality of the whole situation is everybody, everybody is
Speaker 1: good enough. Everybody is good enough. You do matter, you
Speaker 1: are important, and we care about you, which sounds you
Speaker 1: can you can say whatever you want to call you
Speaker 1: call me. I'm as gay as you can get, just
Speaker 1: to be clear about that. But the reality is we care, man,
Speaker 1: and that's no humans. There is a pretty limited menu
Speaker 1: of ship that we're capable of. You know, we've only
Speaker 1: been at it for a couple of thousand years on
Speaker 1: the planet, so there's nothing that anyone's done that you
Speaker 1: can't talk your way through it. No granted, if you're
Speaker 1: a fucking rapist or a serial killer or something like that,
Speaker 1: then you should be dead. But the reality is, I'm
Speaker 1: talking about guys who have gone places and done things
Speaker 1: that they think they should be ashamed of it or whatever.
Speaker 1: That's not accurate. You shouldn't be ashamed of that. People
Speaker 1: do things under certain situations that you know, maybe you
Speaker 1: can't talk to everybody about that or whatever, But the
Speaker 1: reality is there's people out there the care and everybody
Speaker 1: deserves a shot, and if nobody will talk to you,
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