Speaker 1: Ah, beaut force. If it doesn't work, you're just not
Speaker 1: using enough. You're listening to software Radio, Special Operations, military
Speaker 1: news and straight talk with the guys and the community
Speaker 1: soft rep dot com on time on Target. I don't
Speaker 1: think the audience heard what you originally said, so you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I feel very sloppy because I was
Speaker 1: out drinking with a couple of army buddies yesterday and
Speaker 1: pretty hungover right now. Anyone that this audience may be
Speaker 1: familiar with, No, just one guy I know from Colombia
Speaker 1: and another guy uh I met. He actually worked or
Speaker 1: used to work for a news agency. But um, both
Speaker 1: really good guys. We we're wearing an offensive T shirts. No, No,
Speaker 1: I wasn't, so I should say in studio with us.
Speaker 1: First goal for the first time and Andrew Andrew, Well, cow,
Speaker 1: who is really the reason that that I'm here? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Andrew would have me as a guest and Brandon
Speaker 1: as a guest all the time on his show. And
Speaker 1: that's you know how we met Andy and how he
Speaker 1: came to meet you don't call him and that he
Speaker 1: could get away with it. There's been guests before that
Speaker 1: you've said, Well, it depends if somebody's just there's there's
Speaker 1: two ways of doing it. There's one who somebody's thinking
Speaker 1: that they're you know, we're comfortable enough to say. Then
Speaker 1: there's that condescending Andy, you know, like you know the difference,
Speaker 1: you know, the difference when somebody's doing it to be
Speaker 1: condescending and when somebody's doing it because they're just they
Speaker 1: think they've gotten into the comfort zone. I don't get mad.
Speaker 1: It's you know, I remember Senator Jim de Mint calling
Speaker 1: you Andy and and getting fine with you. It's fine. Which,
Speaker 1: by the way, whether people like his politics or not,
Speaker 1: super nice guy from when he's come on, like, I
Speaker 1: don't think anybody could have a problem with that guy
Speaker 1: personal even Dailish, even John Stewart said he was like
Speaker 1: the nicest person. Yeah, he really was. Um. So for
Speaker 1: those who don't know, I should at least give an
Speaker 1: introduction if who Andrew is? Andrew the host of the
Speaker 1: willcal Majority on Serious Sex and Patriot. Uh, you're going
Speaker 1: to be hosting You're on show Will cow on CRC
Speaker 1: up back on TV, which we'll get into. I guess
Speaker 1: the first big announcement for this audience that you could
Speaker 1: get into is that the software dot Com paywall is down,
Speaker 1: which is yeah, UM, you know, the guys made the
Speaker 1: decision to take it down. So we were a subscription
Speaker 1: website for I mean we were we were open first
Speaker 1: like what six months, eight months or something, went to
Speaker 1: a pay subscription model, yeah, fairly quickly early on, and
Speaker 1: so like the last five years or whatever, we've been
Speaker 1: a subscriber website. UM. And now that's the paywall is
Speaker 1: taken down. Anybody can go read anything on the website. UM.
Speaker 1: So it's wide open, and you know, hopefully that helps
Speaker 1: get the word out more and more people will be
Speaker 1: able to read UM. You still have to be subscribed
Speaker 1: to uh, make comments on the website, UM access some
Speaker 1: of the other functionality of the website. UM. The people
Speaker 1: who are existing subscribers, they're gonna get you know, like
Speaker 1: UM free upgrade. They're gonna become like the premium membership
Speaker 1: we have and all that. They're gonna go into that automatically.
Speaker 1: And I don't I hope on not speaking out of turn,
Speaker 1: but I believe they're going to have access to softwarep
Speaker 1: TV as well. That's that's going to be part of
Speaker 1: the part of the deal that we're gonna grandfather all
Speaker 1: the existing subscriber subscribers into Yeah. I think with the
Speaker 1: success of Create Club, it's allowed us to have more
Speaker 1: free content than we originally did because we know, for
Speaker 1: a while it was like we were trying to figure
Speaker 1: out how to make the podcast profitable and we to
Speaker 1: pay wall for that and to pay wall for the website.
Speaker 1: And now it's like Create Club has allowed us to
Speaker 1: do that. So it's all this free content. And if
Speaker 1: you really want to support the writers, I would say,
Speaker 1: more than anything, subscribe to Create Club because that's the
Speaker 1: business as a whole, and and pow, we're getting revenue. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's no what it's really figured out this
Speaker 1: whole media thing, and it's changing so much that what's
Speaker 1: the what's the model to use? And you know we're
Speaker 1: doing we were just media, we were just news, but
Speaker 1: now we're you doing also products and that's helping to
Speaker 1: pay the bills. Well, you know, it's funny. When I
Speaker 1: first went to Sirius in two thousand and six, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I was just a weekend guy on w
Speaker 1: ABC here in New York City and I was full
Speaker 1: time upstate New York w g Y, and I had
Speaker 1: people say no one's gonna pay for radio, No one's
Speaker 1: no one's gonna pay for that. And it was funny
Speaker 1: that the people that were sure nobody would pay for radio,
Speaker 1: we're probably also sure that nobody would pay for television. Right.
Speaker 1: And as the radio industry added more and more inventory
Speaker 1: and the commercial breaks got the six seven minutes long
Speaker 1: you know, when you're when you're at when you're looking
Speaker 1: at a minor league subscription fee annually, when you break
Speaker 1: it out over twelve months to not have you know,
Speaker 1: almost a half hour of your hours programming be commercials,
Speaker 1: you know, and and and the the universe of bandwidth
Speaker 1: that it opens, you know, you find that there are
Speaker 1: people that after enough annoyance from from commercials, they don't
Speaker 1: want to hear. It's amazing what they're willing to pay for. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's uh, we we were very very fortunate.
Speaker 1: I think that people paid to subscribe, paid to read because,
Speaker 1: like you said, no, you know that it's a joke,
Speaker 1: but people are on the ground floor of the military
Speaker 1: independent journalism. I would say, you guys almost created it, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: in a in a sense, yeah, the idea that you know,
Speaker 1: a journalist can also be a source I mean you're
Speaker 1: bringing these kind of personal experiences to the table. Um.
Speaker 1: I've always said that you and Brandon founded Nick show
Speaker 1: like the perfect time. It was when he put out
Speaker 1: The Red Circle. There wasn't this saturation of Navy seal books.
Speaker 1: It was kind of rare. There was Chris Kyle, there
Speaker 1: was Brandon, not much else for modern day snipers and
Speaker 1: that type of thing, and then there was the Bin
Speaker 1: Laden shooting and there was this explosion of interest in
Speaker 1: the special operations community. I think we we had a
Speaker 1: lot of articles, a lot of content that no one
Speaker 1: else had, and you know, people are willing to pay
Speaker 1: for that kind of thing. I think the problem only
Speaker 1: issue we ran into and every run into is being
Speaker 1: a special operations news website is that's a that's a niche.
Speaker 1: You know, it's pretty small. It's smaller than even say
Speaker 1: defense like we don't normally cover like the F thirty
Speaker 1: five or like Navy ships, you know, so it's even
Speaker 1: it's a niche within defense journalism. Um. So there could
Speaker 1: be some scaling issues, of course, um, And I think
Speaker 1: that was the only real difficulty we ran into. But
Speaker 1: this will go into your TV show. One of the
Speaker 1: things that I was going to mention, sorry, that's your phone,
Speaker 1: completely unprofessional. Uh, all right ahead this but this goes
Speaker 1: into your TV show. As I can't make eye contact
Speaker 1: with Andrew. Here is that I feel like less and
Speaker 1: less you're gonna get it for you. There you go
Speaker 1: to truly lie and as we've said, this is pirate,
Speaker 1: there you go for um no. So with your TV show,
Speaker 1: I feel like less and less people are subscribed to
Speaker 1: the major cable companies. I can't tell you the last
Speaker 1: time that I've, like, for an extended period of time
Speaker 1: watched whether it's CNN, MSNBC or Fox News, I get
Speaker 1: at all. Yeah, I get pretty much all of my
Speaker 1: news from alternative sources. And I think that there's, you know,
Speaker 1: for what you're doing with CRTV, there's a conservative audience
Speaker 1: that wants to hear what you're up to with Stephen
Speaker 1: Crowder is up to and what Michelle Malkin is reporting
Speaker 1: on and not have to have it filtered through these
Speaker 1: you know. One of the problems too, is like when
Speaker 1: you're on Fox News or CNN, which you've been on,
Speaker 1: you literally have two minutes there to get out whatever
Speaker 1: you want. One intelligent comment, and you did a pretty
Speaker 1: good job. But you know what's you know, I'll address this.
Speaker 1: This is the part where I'm supposed to say, well,
Speaker 1: this is because of the cord cutters. You know, when
Speaker 1: the networks complain about chord cutting cord. I don't believe
Speaker 1: that there's a phenomena of cord cutting. I believe there's
Speaker 1: a phenomena of bad programming. And that I think when
Speaker 1: you when when networks want to say a, people are
Speaker 1: cutting the chords. There that's their excuse for some of
Speaker 1: the stale programming. And that instead of saying to their
Speaker 1: their network higher ups, or or their their parent company
Speaker 1: or even their board of directors and investors that we
Speaker 1: have to get creative, they said, well, it's just a
Speaker 1: trend people, a chord cutting. Well, I think if you're
Speaker 1: putting on good programming, especially in a country with three
Speaker 1: people and this this internet environment where the gatekeepers and
Speaker 1: their walls have kind of come down, that if you're
Speaker 1: putting on good programming, good programming has an audience. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if it's a m FM, Serius accent podcasting,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if it's satellite, cable or or new
Speaker 1: media Roku or whatever it is. I think if you're
Speaker 1: doing a good program that an audience has been looking for.
Speaker 1: They're gonna they're it's it's a match. Yeah. But one
Speaker 1: thing is if you if if I have a Roku box,
Speaker 1: right and I just want to watch Andrew Wilco on
Speaker 1: see our TV, I can do that as opposed to
Speaker 1: paying like one to two hundred dollars for this big
Speaker 1: subscription when most people are watching what two or three
Speaker 1: channels regularly. You know. So I think that I do
Speaker 1: think the cord cutting plays into that, is that people
Speaker 1: don't want to be subspoken. But again their cord cutting
Speaker 1: because what's on the cord is not what they want.
Speaker 1: There there is that, I mean, there is also there
Speaker 1: is also you know, there are some people, many people
Speaker 1: are creatures of habit that it's what's on TV. Right,
Speaker 1: they turn on their television. And that's that's a generational
Speaker 1: thing too. Though these young people they're not going to
Speaker 1: the TV. That's well, you know, Brandon said that just recently.
Speaker 1: He was saying that he took a long skiing trip
Speaker 1: with his three kids, you know, who are various age groups,
Speaker 1: and he's like, they didn't look at the TV once
Speaker 1: they The one thing they said is like the WiFi
Speaker 1: sucks here. Yeah, I mean I was staying in hotels
Speaker 1: all the time when I was doing this TV show,
Speaker 1: And I mean I think TV show an actual TV show.
Speaker 1: And this is the funny thing about it. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: on TV and I tell people, I'm like, I can't
Speaker 1: even watch this thing because I don't have cable television. Um.
Speaker 1: And but it's funny because I don't turn the television on.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'd rather just watch videos on YouTube or
Speaker 1: something like that then watch television or watch Facebook live.
Speaker 1: The the opportunities for people who have been who are
Speaker 1: not the networks type. You know, this is the opportunity
Speaker 1: that if you're not the network type for whatever that
Speaker 1: whatever reason that is, they don't think you're pretty enough,
Speaker 1: or they don't think you're pretty enough that you know
Speaker 1: that that that that whatever their standards are for sort
Speaker 1: of I guess television perfection if people are looking for
Speaker 1: more than that. Now I'm not saying I'm not a
Speaker 1: handsome guy, because I am. Um, but you know this
Speaker 1: is this is like bands who didn't get played on
Speaker 1: the radio or ignored by MTV. You know, it's kind
Speaker 1: of funny. You look at a band like Metallica that
Speaker 1: was ignored by radio, largely ignored by MTV. They finally
Speaker 1: agreed to put out a video. Now the world came
Speaker 1: to them. So you know, the industry is going to
Speaker 1: have to at some points say, Okay, what did we overlook?
Speaker 1: Who did we miss here? Who's getting popular out there?
Speaker 1: And then we're gonna have to do But believe it
Speaker 1: or not, CRTV has actually kind of taking that model.
Speaker 1: They've looked around at some of the biggest conservative faces
Speaker 1: on YouTube like Stephen Crowder and said, how do we
Speaker 1: bring that to us and make it a part of
Speaker 1: what we're doing? The same thing for for Ali Stucky
Speaker 1: and a few others. Isn't that like Frank Zappa said
Speaker 1: something like that. Back in the day, He's like, you know,
Speaker 1: when you had these fat cat business executives working at
Speaker 1: record labels, they didn't know what was cool, so they
Speaker 1: would take a chance on somebody. But he said, you know,
Speaker 1: then what happened was all these hippies came in. They
Speaker 1: took over the record labels, and they thought they knew
Speaker 1: what was cool. They thought they knew what kids wanted,
Speaker 1: and they wouldn't take any risks because it was very
Speaker 1: narrow of what they thought. And then in the late
Speaker 1: seventies you had the punk explosion, so you know, and
Speaker 1: then the record company started signing up. You know, you
Speaker 1: saw that with Nirvana. Nirvana got signed and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden it was like five thousand grunge bands. Uh.
Speaker 1: But yes, I think the networks and I'm not trash
Speaker 1: talking any of the networks because I want to go
Speaker 1: on them. It's see you twice, um that I think
Speaker 1: when it when it comes to their next evolution of
Speaker 1: of programming, they're gonna be forced to look at the
Speaker 1: metrics of what no different than someone saying what's hot
Speaker 1: in the clubs right now? Right what's hot in the clubs?
Speaker 1: There are bands, there are DJs. There, there's something out
Speaker 1: there that's not on the radio and it's not under
Speaker 1: contract with the record company, and they have to go
Speaker 1: out and get it. Well, when that time comes, they're
Speaker 1: gonna be networks like CRTV, like Software Radio, like whatever
Speaker 1: it is that have been putting on popular programming, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna say we want that, we we want to
Speaker 1: we we want to add it, we want to buy it,
Speaker 1: we want to partner with it, we we we need it.
Speaker 1: Because whatever we're doing is causing is still causing people
Speaker 1: to cut the chord and go this way. It seems
Speaker 1: like these networks have these like corporate committees that just
Speaker 1: fresh everything though. I mean, if you watch Netflix, it
Speaker 1: seems like they give a lot of creative freedom to
Speaker 1: people and that's why they have these very good television
Speaker 1: shows on Netflix, and by comparisons, stuff on cable TV
Speaker 1: just seems so pedestrian. Well, you know, it's funny is
Speaker 1: that you get that's like death ray. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: just being frank about it. You know, well, you know
Speaker 1: what's funny is that And still and still, this is
Speaker 1: the one thing I hang my head on with with
Speaker 1: serious x M is there's still taking risks putting on channels,
Speaker 1: putting on people that probably had no chance at AM
Speaker 1: and FM, you know, and and and that's the guy
Speaker 1: that I they brought me in from from AM talk
Speaker 1: and and put me on. But they've put on a
Speaker 1: lot of people that you know, probably if it was
Speaker 1: just you know, to competing news talk radio stations, are
Speaker 1: two competing sports programming or you know your heritage classic
Speaker 1: rock and new rock station, probably you know they're there,
Speaker 1: We're putting on people that probably if the program doctor
Speaker 1: didn't like you, like in the movie Airheads, Like I
Speaker 1: read the trades, you know that they're putting on people
Speaker 1: that probably in in a more controlled radio environment, might
Speaker 1: not have got on the air. Well. Speaking on this subject,
Speaker 1: I mean, tell us about your TV show. How what's
Speaker 1: it gonna be? How how are you going to draw
Speaker 1: people in? I had another TV show at a and
Speaker 1: you know, it was going fine for a while and
Speaker 1: something's happened. Um, not here to address those things, but
Speaker 1: the show. The show went away very unceremoniously. And this company,
Speaker 1: It's funny. I was contacted by the people who were
Speaker 1: building the infrastructure for this company. I think it was
Speaker 1: the day or two days after I lost that TV show.
Speaker 1: I get a call and, uh, the guy on the
Speaker 1: other line says, Hi, you don't know me, but I'm
Speaker 1: I'm starting up my own, my own network. And I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, I've I've been through this before. And
Speaker 1: and we started talking, and UM, you know, I wasn't
Speaker 1: sure what I that I wanted to leave Sirius x M.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what I wanted to do next. And
Speaker 1: they started, they started laying their groundwork and Their first
Speaker 1: big sign was was Mark Levine, which I think was
Speaker 1: a really good UM choice given that you look at
Speaker 1: how many people are locked up in the business, whether
Speaker 1: on radio and have a TV side gig. He was
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, the one that was available with
Speaker 1: a really big platform following to build on. And we
Speaker 1: shot a pilot last year UM in a studio they
Speaker 1: had they had up in Vermont, And if I remember correctly,
Speaker 1: Brandon was on right and actually and and we actually
Speaker 1: did we actually did a a segment that never actually ed.
Speaker 1: We did this really cool thing about how the politicians
Speaker 1: have gotten so comfortable just saying well, special operations, right,
Speaker 1: It's like, well, you can't just shake the Special Operation
Speaker 1: Stree in North Korea. It's a different animal. It's it's
Speaker 1: you know, and and Brandon and and in the general
Speaker 1: we're in agreement that this was not bring back our girls.
Speaker 1: This is not Syria, This was not an insurgency we
Speaker 1: were dealing with. This wasn't a symmetrical warfare. This was
Speaker 1: the threat of a nuclear you know, showdown in an
Speaker 1: isolated country. And I remember when we shot the segment,
Speaker 1: like God, why we should be able to air this,
Speaker 1: like this is this is good stuff. But what they
Speaker 1: were doing was they were bringing in people and kind
Speaker 1: of kind of throwing them against the wall, giving them
Speaker 1: a time to do a a demo or or a pilot.
Speaker 1: And out of that they picked mine and and you know,
Speaker 1: like our studios are gonna be literally one block from you.
Speaker 1: Guys were literally up the block here, Yeah, up the block,
Speaker 1: and um, you know the studio spaces obviously down here
Speaker 1: a much smaller we're gonna have. It's it's a startup,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a new enterprise. Um. But I think
Speaker 1: the content is going to be similar to the old
Speaker 1: TV show. But what they want, and I think this
Speaker 1: is kind of smart. They want something that feels like
Speaker 1: that network show but doesn't take an hour to get to.
Speaker 1: So whereas I was doing probably seven or eight minute monologue,
Speaker 1: are probably gonna be doing two minutes, which I should add,
Speaker 1: unlike network TV shows, you wrote the entire Yeah that
Speaker 1: when I was working with you, you know, like you
Speaker 1: were spending an insane amount of time writing these monologues,
Speaker 1: doing the radio show, going to do the TV show
Speaker 1: because you refused to do with these other networks. Do
Speaker 1: where you read something that your producers read well, and
Speaker 1: to to to credit people who are good at reading prompter.
Speaker 1: I have friends in the business, and I have a
Speaker 1: friend who's a local newscaster, and he's like, some people
Speaker 1: could own the prompter and some people can't. And when
Speaker 1: I started doing the TV show, I had literally never
Speaker 1: read a teleprompter before, and I thought, Okay, when you're
Speaker 1: reading lines, it sounds like you're reading lines. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: but but some people are good at making it, really
Speaker 1: owning it. And I didn't think I had that talent.
Speaker 1: But I knew if I wrote it, if something went
Speaker 1: wrong or I had to look away for a second,
Speaker 1: I wanted. I knew if I wrote it, nothing can
Speaker 1: go wrong because I wrote it. And you know, when
Speaker 1: we first started that show, we had a very young staff,
Speaker 1: very passionate staff, great bunch of young people. But I
Speaker 1: remember there would be times when there would be an
Speaker 1: intro and somebody would just say sergeant. I would say, well,
Speaker 1: master sergeant, sergeant for first class sergeant what or referring
Speaker 1: to marines as soldiers. And it was no fault. It
Speaker 1: was ay. We were a very small staff, were always rushed.
Speaker 1: One of the things I had to I had to
Speaker 1: kind of take back from that was knowing you guys,
Speaker 1: and and and respect that I have for the military,
Speaker 1: was if we were gonna intro a military guests, we
Speaker 1: had to get it right. You know. We always had
Speaker 1: to make sure we got it right. If it was
Speaker 1: we couldn't just say, well was it fifth Special Forces
Speaker 1: Group or seven Special Forces Group? There's a difference, you know,
Speaker 1: that sort of thing. And the writing became very natural
Speaker 1: to me because I, again it was my relationship with
Speaker 1: with doing the show, but I didn't have the experience
Speaker 1: of so many other people that are just organically good
Speaker 1: at reading prompt So I thought, know, if you want
Speaker 1: something done right, you better do it yourself. And that's
Speaker 1: not to insult any of the people that you both
Speaker 1: know that worked on my show. It was that we
Speaker 1: were all inexperience and I felt that too. To succeed,
Speaker 1: I couldn't read other people's words. So what's the show
Speaker 1: going to be about? What's the format going to look like?
Speaker 1: It's it's it's gonna look like a news program. It's
Speaker 1: very nice studio. I think we're gonna have shortened monologues
Speaker 1: and get right to the point with guests. They've hired
Speaker 1: a great stable of really mostly young conservatives um and Crowder,
Speaker 1: Stephen Crowder. You have also Gavin McGinness is a little
Speaker 1: to than me, say young, one of the co founders
Speaker 1: of Vice News. They have a really eclectic group of people,
Speaker 1: from social conservatives like Steve D's to libertarians like Matt Kibbey.
Speaker 1: So it's it's not gonna be stodgy conservative, it's not
Speaker 1: going to be full on libertarian, but you're gonna get that.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get everything from the social conservative of side
Speaker 1: to the libertarian side. And I think I think libertarians
Speaker 1: mostly get kind of left out a lot from from
Speaker 1: you know, the sort of right left paradigm. Libertarians offer
Speaker 1: something that's that's kind of neither right nor left. It's
Speaker 1: more um, you know, airing on the side of limited government.
Speaker 1: So I think that's gonna be a big thrust. Is
Speaker 1: kind of filling in where some of the networks have
Speaker 1: kind of ignored certain personalities and and and streams of consciousness,
Speaker 1: especially libertarian. That's what we're gonna be looking for. It's
Speaker 1: interesting to see how libertarians have gotten a bad name
Speaker 1: too over I noticed this trend just really over the
Speaker 1: last couple of years really, and I think libertarians have
Speaker 1: to own a little bit of it because um some
Speaker 1: went down that whole anarcho capitalism road, Uh so okay,
Speaker 1: or or that that they were very bad diplomats for
Speaker 1: their belief system because it was almost it was almost
Speaker 1: as smug as liberalism could be. Sometimes that if if
Speaker 1: you don't know everything that I already believe, I don't
Speaker 1: have time to walk you through it. And if you're
Speaker 1: not with Ron Paul get Away, many of us, many
Speaker 1: of the audience that just say said that about the
Speaker 1: guy we had on he was running for president Austin
Speaker 1: very like, I'll be honest, came off as very arrogant
Speaker 1: with us at times when when he said to me,
Speaker 1: I remember that. The part that that that rings out
Speaker 1: to me and I've heard I've seen people tweet me
Speaker 1: about it was when he said basically, we don't need
Speaker 1: a border patrol, and I was like, well, then how
Speaker 1: would you protect you know, the border that that's why
Speaker 1: we have it back to that and everything should freely
Speaker 1: flow with their Second Amendment right could protect the border,
Speaker 1: Like that's really what you want? You want? And yeah,
Speaker 1: so as I wear my border patrol. Had he's been
Speaker 1: on your show too, but I think he had that
Speaker 1: libertarian like arrogance. And I'm a libertarian, you know, like
Speaker 1: lawless countries are not a fun place. Well, and and
Speaker 1: what the problem A lot of problems with libertarians is
Speaker 1: on a there's no kind of half measure, like why
Speaker 1: isn't the fire department privatized? You know, it's okay? And
Speaker 1: I get I get the argument. I've read my lout Rock, well,
Speaker 1: my Mariy Lot, Mariy Rothbar just for good measure. But
Speaker 1: you think most voters think the biggest problem with their
Speaker 1: government department, you know, like you guys, you gotta you
Speaker 1: gotta pick some more obvious targets. And the problem with
Speaker 1: with libertarians sometimes and it's not all libertarians, um, is
Speaker 1: they are almost as absolutist on the whole, you know,
Speaker 1: taking a whole ideology. And can you see that a
Speaker 1: lot with with progressives that if you aren't a pro
Speaker 1: trans vegan, uh, then you're a nazi, right, you're right
Speaker 1: if you're not, if you're not all checking all these
Speaker 1: boxes all at once. And I think I think libertarians
Speaker 1: have great ideas, but they also have to be willing
Speaker 1: to share them with people who don't really understand them.
Speaker 1: And I think you once you to explain why you
Speaker 1: believe what you believe. If you're a libertarian, yeah, the
Speaker 1: government should be out of marriage. Okay, good, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: understand that we have a democracy and it's going to
Speaker 1: be a blending of ideas between different boy, it's never
Speaker 1: gonna be a pure ideological government. I don't know we
Speaker 1: want an ideological government. I just want a government things
Speaker 1: like me. Well, that's that's everybody, isn't it going into
Speaker 1: you know what? When you were saying what the TV
Speaker 1: show is going to be about? I think that's the
Speaker 1: cool thing that you always break down these political philosophies,
Speaker 1: like the origin of them, the writers who started them.
Speaker 1: Like I know you're big on Boss Stiat and all
Speaker 1: this stuff, and Jack and I have said on the
Speaker 1: podcast really often like you turn on network news and
Speaker 1: it's all their commentary on what Trump tweeted, and you're like,
Speaker 1: I could go to Twitter and I could read Donald
Speaker 1: Trump's twitter. I don't need you to give you know,
Speaker 1: a twenty minute break. Then that's why pros and cons
Speaker 1: what you were talking about about, why people aren't tuning
Speaker 1: into television because why do I need to see somebody
Speaker 1: on television. Tell me what Trump tweeted. We we can
Speaker 1: go there and read how dumb he looks ourselves. I mean,
Speaker 1: we can see it. I actually like a lot of
Speaker 1: his tweet. But that's a separate argument for a separate day.
Speaker 1: One of the things I get to do also is
Speaker 1: and you guys are down the block, is I like
Speaker 1: that in depth variance military journalism? You know this? I
Speaker 1: mean I want to. I want to hear those stories.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to just be like are
Speaker 1: we launching a missile or or were not? I want
Speaker 1: the nuances. I think. I think the audience is going
Speaker 1: to come to this program and it's go, oh, these
Speaker 1: guys have been there, done that, and their opinions are
Speaker 1: based on their experiences. And it's not just this surface
Speaker 1: level d o J bureaucrat, foreign policy bureaucrat, academic bureaucrat,
Speaker 1: uh sort of opinion. It's like, hey, I put boots
Speaker 1: on the ground here, this is a bad idea, or yeah,
Speaker 1: we could accomplish this, but you know it's gonna have
Speaker 1: to have political will. It's not just the the UM
Speaker 1: network contributor who you know is saying what the network
Speaker 1: chieftains want them to say, which I again, I'm never
Speaker 1: privy to the stuff. I would rather sit down with
Speaker 1: you or Brandon or whoever. And all right, guys, you know,
Speaker 1: even if it's not your area expertise, I mean, like
Speaker 1: you know, maybe launching nuclear missiles is not you have
Speaker 1: experience with, but I still respect your opinion on it
Speaker 1: because you know, special operations pretty much as always at
Speaker 1: the four of all these things, and I want those
Speaker 1: special operation guests to give me their experience based opinion.
Speaker 1: So would you have some ideas as far as uh
Speaker 1: kind of topics to cover? I mean, you mentioned La Nicola, Tesla,
Speaker 1: was was there a death ray? Yes, a lot of
Speaker 1: the stuff that we're gonna be doing. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: obviously people have their opinions on Trump, but when you
Speaker 1: get past the tweets and the Democrats being apoplectic, you
Speaker 1: take an example like DOCTA. Whether you agree or disagree
Speaker 1: with DACA, the fact that he said this is an
Speaker 1: executive order that never should have been written. The job
Speaker 1: of Congress. You know, if you cut through, If you
Speaker 1: cut through, I guess what excites some people and get
Speaker 1: to was it constitutional for him to push it back
Speaker 1: to the Congress? Absolutely, and we're I think we're gonna
Speaker 1: be doing more of that than spending time on what
Speaker 1: the president tweeted, Um, who's angry at him for tweeting it? Um?
Speaker 1: You know, the social media part of it. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess if we're forced to cover. But I think
Speaker 1: we're gonna go more into policy and the constitution. And
Speaker 1: it seems like there's a lot of folks out there
Speaker 1: who needs some help with like basic civics, like how
Speaker 1: your government works, and see people getting so angry about stuff,
Speaker 1: and like you realize, you know, the president doesn't have
Speaker 1: that big of a role to play with the economy especially.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not well, you know, we always say this,
Speaker 1: and I know that conservatives get accused of being, um,
Speaker 1: I guess, conspiratorial with public education. But when you look
Speaker 1: at public education, what's the incentive of government run education
Speaker 1: to teach you about the limits of government? Because you
Speaker 1: might go, well, then why am I in a government classroom?
Speaker 1: It doesn't say anything about that in the Constitution. I
Speaker 1: think we have, for political purposes, dumbed down our teaching
Speaker 1: of civics and made it more about what is the
Speaker 1: greater good? Who's trying to achieve a better, a better
Speaker 1: tomorrow for this, rather than saying is the government good
Speaker 1: at this? And should they continue doing this? Where is
Speaker 1: the government belong? Where doesn't it belong? Where the states belong,
Speaker 1: where the cities belong, Where to you know, where the
Speaker 1: charities belong. I think we've we've been taught to believe
Speaker 1: that our president is supposed to be are our moral
Speaker 1: lord and savior. And you know, our president is not
Speaker 1: supposed to be our moral lord and savior. We're not
Speaker 1: a king, is not a king, and we shouldn't treat
Speaker 1: him like a king. And you know the scary thing
Speaker 1: is is that when you when you look at the way,
Speaker 1: and I'll make this my conservative complaint that the Democrats
Speaker 1: kind of thought that Barack Obama should be unleashed to
Speaker 1: do all these good things, and then as soon as
Speaker 1: Donald Trump became president, Well, we have a constitution and
Speaker 1: president no, no no, no, no no, either we are consistent in
Speaker 1: the limits of the executive branch and the judicial branch
Speaker 1: and the legislative branch. Or we are opening ourselves up
Speaker 1: to a sort of un anarchy that well, the Supreme
Speaker 1: Court said so, well, are they empowered to say so? Well,
Speaker 1: they're Supreme Well, that's not what it says an article.
Speaker 1: I know you've seen the meme, uh you know when
Speaker 1: liberals and they've told me this too. I'm sure you've
Speaker 1: heard it where they say, look, we don't need the
Speaker 1: Second Amendment anymore, like we're never gonna have this authoritarian,
Speaker 1: dictatorial government. You know, there's no need for the second
Speaker 1: elected trumpet they right now under under Barack Obama states
Speaker 1: right to equal racism. And as soon as Donald Trump
Speaker 1: got elected, it's California threatened to secede. So it's like
Speaker 1: it's kind of like it's it is that kind of
Speaker 1: crazy today. I like it tomorrow. I don't kind of
Speaker 1: thing and separate from from from libertarians. I think constitutional conservatives,
Speaker 1: you know, whereas I have my personal opinions on social issues.
Speaker 1: But I go, yeah, it's not in the constitution, so
Speaker 1: really it's not for government. And I think one thing
Speaker 1: that we're going to try to do and I I
Speaker 1: will lay this blame on on liberals. Liberals don't separate
Speaker 1: their opinions from government if they believe it it's government right.
Speaker 1: Whereas everyone has emotions place I, as a constitutional conservative, say,
Speaker 1: do I believe in traditional marriage? Yes? Do I believe
Speaker 1: it's the cornerstone for society. Yes. Do I think it's
Speaker 1: the base best way to raise a child? Yes? Do
Speaker 1: I think the government should be involved? No? And I
Speaker 1: think that's a hard full stop for a lot of
Speaker 1: people to make that when they capture the whims of
Speaker 1: the wheels of power, like what can I what of
Speaker 1: my personal agenda can I can? I can I place
Speaker 1: upon the society? And as a constitutional conservative, I like
Speaker 1: that full stop that you can have your opinions, you
Speaker 1: can live your way. You could say your freedom to
Speaker 1: be you include my freedom to be free from you
Speaker 1: don't want to bake you a cake or bake me
Speaker 1: an f and cake or whichever cake you want baked. Um.
Speaker 1: But I think the full stop has to come is
Speaker 1: does the government need to be here? And you know,
Speaker 1: if you're being honest with yourself, sometimes you know the
Speaker 1: government does belong. There's there's an interesting conversation there too
Speaker 1: about the whole nature of freedom and when you give
Speaker 1: people freedom, they're also going to do stupid things. But
Speaker 1: that but see that, But I am, well, I am
Speaker 1: one of these people, Like right right now we're debating
Speaker 1: pot laws and the Tenth Amendment, doesn't say one word
Speaker 1: about the marriage. I wanna government regulating what we put
Speaker 1: in our bodies. People say, well, if we didn't have
Speaker 1: an FDA, well, you know, maybe we should inspect coming
Speaker 1: in from foreign countries, find that's cross border you know, dealings.
Speaker 1: But as far as whether or not the federal government
Speaker 1: should tell people they should should or should not smoke marijuana,
Speaker 1: as someone who doesn't smoke marijuana isn't gonna smoke marijuana
Speaker 1: is in a state where it's gonna be legal real soon,
Speaker 1: not gonna change my my use of it. You want
Speaker 1: to drink raw milk, knock yourself out, knock yourself out,
Speaker 1: that's that's up to you. You want to raise your
Speaker 1: kids to believe this debt of the other thing, go
Speaker 1: right ahead. Yeah, all of these things, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: with the freedom of speech, the right to bear arms,
Speaker 1: they have negative consequences also. But I think it's like socially,
Speaker 1: it's a question of if we accept this, we we
Speaker 1: accept the trade off. Essentially. Now you give people freedom,
Speaker 1: some people are gonna do dumb things with it. They're
Speaker 1: gonna hurt each other, but they're gonna do that. But
Speaker 1: we we've also I think we've proven without a shadow
Speaker 1: of a doubt that the law doesn't always protect us,
Speaker 1: or we wouldn't be talking about tide pod challenges right now,
Speaker 1: you know. And and I joked on Twitter, I said,
Speaker 1: here's a tide pod challenge from millennials. Do your own laundry.
Speaker 1: But but if somebody's gonna put a tide pot in
Speaker 1: their mouth, But how does the government stop that from happening? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't stop people from being dumb. You are right,
Speaker 1: even if the mornings right there, Yeah, shouldn't eat that
Speaker 1: and it's going right, you know. I mean, even even
Speaker 1: even with a mechanized law that is supposed to prevent
Speaker 1: us from doing harm to ourselves, people will find a
Speaker 1: way to do harm to themselves. And you know there
Speaker 1: are old sayings about dangerous freedoms. Well, yeah, freedom is freedom.
Speaker 1: Freedom is Dane dress. It's unpredictable, it it's it's it's
Speaker 1: hard to account for. And I think that scares people
Speaker 1: in in certain functions of government that well, what if
Speaker 1: we can't control people. Well, we're not talking about opening
Speaker 1: ourselves up to the waste land of the road Warrior,
Speaker 1: but you know, I think when the government meddles too much,
Speaker 1: you know when the government treats people like children and
Speaker 1: wonders why they can't make good decisions. Yeah, just just
Speaker 1: to reset here since we are doing the live stream,
Speaker 1: we're here with Andrew will Cow hosted the willcal Majority,
Speaker 1: guy I worked with for probably like seven years about
Speaker 1: something like that until I never yelled at him once. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's probably true. Yeah, it's absolutely We always got along
Speaker 1: very well. Don't want anybody, Yeah, no, we get along
Speaker 1: very well. Only on the air. I have a passionate voice, passionate,
Speaker 1: passionate voice, but I don't really yell. Yeah, So I
Speaker 1: mean that's really where I personally, you know, for those
Speaker 1: watching Ian Scotto producer here and other on air town.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's where I met Brandon, where I met
Speaker 1: Jack can wear this whole thing. The only person missing
Speaker 1: from the party is Mike Ben's well, he's busy cutting
Speaker 1: up audio and running logs back at serious Sex. I've
Speaker 1: told you before, and you know you already know this,
Speaker 1: not to name any names. There's been guests. Mikey is
Speaker 1: just such a funny one wine guy that I've seen
Speaker 1: guests just listen to Mike kind of ramble in the
Speaker 1: control room and steal his lines on air with you
Speaker 1: and you feel like they were there, and I'm just like,
Speaker 1: you just said this, And Mike is just the type
Speaker 1: of guy is just like whatever. He doesn't get Piste
Speaker 1: off about it. I would kind of get Piste and
Speaker 1: be like, dude, that was money because he he always
Speaker 1: has those lines. But I wanted to get into the
Speaker 1: last Veterans Stay broadcast because the thing I know about
Speaker 1: you from working with you for so long is like
Speaker 1: the Veterans Day and Veteran Issues is not something that
Speaker 1: once a year you get into. Year round, you do
Speaker 1: things for veterans, whether it's going with um Rickayanucci at
Speaker 1: the ranch in New Mexico, riding horses with vets who
Speaker 1: have post traumatic stress issues, and that what you pretty
Speaker 1: much donate to year round. It's not a one time thing.
Speaker 1: And you guys donated like tens of thousands of dollars.
Speaker 1: We raised over thirty thousand dollars at emin O, Looney
Speaker 1: Is a Bar and Times Square this year and for
Speaker 1: operations show, I read Circle Foundational Horses for Heroes, Semper
Speaker 1: five Funds. Uh, yeah, it was. It was really exciting.
Speaker 1: Um we had some fans in the n y p
Speaker 1: D who When we found out that they were they
Speaker 1: were fans and we got to hang out with them.
Speaker 1: They said, you know, we want to get involved in
Speaker 1: your Veterans Day thing. You know what could we do?
Speaker 1: I said, you know, look, I got bikers who want
Speaker 1: to come to this thing. You know, I mean, if
Speaker 1: you can help me park a hundred bikes. And you
Speaker 1: know what a column of a hundred Harmony Davidson looks
Speaker 1: like coming down the street. It's it's huge and like
Speaker 1: we're on it. And next thing I know, I got
Speaker 1: I got guys from the north West, the Northwest Jersey
Speaker 1: Chapter of HOG, talking to n y p D, talking
Speaker 1: to Serious ex Sam, talking to emmin O looneys. And
Speaker 1: this year we was like, we put this thing out
Speaker 1: on social media. Hey, you want to ride, you gotta
Speaker 1: make a minimum twenty dollar donation to get your T shirt.
Speaker 1: And I'll say nobody made the minimum twenty dollar donation.
Speaker 1: I mean people, we we had one guy donate five
Speaker 1: grand for one T shirt, and you know, it was
Speaker 1: it was amazing the passion of these these guys. Some
Speaker 1: of them were cops, some of them were firefighters, many
Speaker 1: of them were veterans themselves. Uh, just for a little record.
Speaker 1: Del Gotto pulled his bike up right as the riders
Speaker 1: were coming in. Del Gotto jumps on his bike and
Speaker 1: just goes, hey, I'm here, like like he just wrote
Speaker 1: out in front. And we had all these guys and
Speaker 1: we were We put an order form up on the
Speaker 1: internet and people were mailing money to my merch provider, mailing.
Speaker 1: He said to me, called me be goes. I can't
Speaker 1: believe in this day and age of PayPal, people are
Speaker 1: handwriting one check for a donation and then handwriting another
Speaker 1: check for the shipping and handling for the shirt. And
Speaker 1: when when, even when we were done, money was still
Speaker 1: pouring in from people who didn't no matter what they don't,
Speaker 1: they just wanted. It wasn't even about the shirt, which
Speaker 1: was a pretty cool shirt, but they wanted to donate
Speaker 1: to these charities. Because what we were doing was one
Speaker 1: direct giving. We didn't set up an H five or
Speaker 1: one C three. We didn't hire an administrator, we didn't
Speaker 1: hire an accountant. Basically, what we asked on the order forms,
Speaker 1: you picked one of six charities or donate to all six.
Speaker 1: You write the check directly to them, We mail you
Speaker 1: the shirt, and we give the check to the charity.
Speaker 1: So when Stop Soldiers Suicide sold up, I handed them
Speaker 1: a stack of checks and I remember saying, I don't
Speaker 1: know if it was from from the from Red Circle
Speaker 1: of Stops Solder Suicide. They're looking all these checks and go, hey,
Speaker 1: that's a good problem to have, right Well, I was like,
Speaker 1: what about me? Because I was the only one who
Speaker 1: even knew anyone from Red Circle Foundation other than Drew
Speaker 1: d Wire. I have nothing to do with the foundation,
Speaker 1: and you get you gave me the envelope of like
Speaker 1: all this cash and checks. I think I went on
Speaker 1: the train with like how much would it have been?
Speaker 1: It's like five thou dollars December five? What do I
Speaker 1: do with this? Separate five fund was a late addition
Speaker 1: because we got to meet J. W. Cortez, who plays
Speaker 1: Detective Alvarez on the Fox show Gotham. So they were
Speaker 1: very late additions. We didn't raise as much money for them, um,
Speaker 1: but each of the other five charities got a little
Speaker 1: over five thousand each, and I think it was like
Speaker 1: about a thousand for Semper five. I'm sorry I didn't
Speaker 1: make it this year. We'll get you next. I was
Speaker 1: doing the TV stuff and Emmett is always great, we
Speaker 1: should say, if anybody's ever in the area and once separate,
Speaker 1: like you know, in a vast amount of liberalism, we
Speaker 1: were talking about. The Socialist Workers Party is like down
Speaker 1: the block. You know that it's four doors down from you.
Speaker 1: They have a red star on a banner out there
Speaker 1: that's the second floor is the Socialist Workers Party Holy ship.
Speaker 1: So yeah, my my point, yeah, maybe you should do
Speaker 1: some investigative investigative work there. But yeah, my point being
Speaker 1: like in this city, Emmett is a very proud supporter
Speaker 1: of veterans, a proud openly conservative guy has you know,
Speaker 1: everything from your stickers to at with shrug posters on
Speaker 1: the Tonto signed books to brand the branded web sandwich
Speaker 1: I think. And yeah, so he's just a great guy.
Speaker 1: I would recommend people. But we're already planning VET Ride
Speaker 1: eighteen because and we figured it out, like you know,
Speaker 1: the reason why we're gonna do it this year's because
Speaker 1: it fell out on a Saturday, and next year it
Speaker 1: falls out on a Sunday, and it's probably gonna be
Speaker 1: a few calendar years before we have a weekend to
Speaker 1: do it again. So we've already got our parade permits
Speaker 1: foreen for this year. We've already got the go ahead
Speaker 1: from Serious Action, we already got the go ahead from Emmett.
Speaker 1: We already got the charities ready to line up again.
Speaker 1: And I mean this year was it was difficult because
Speaker 1: there was such a crush of people that I was
Speaker 1: so distracted on the year. It was hard to get
Speaker 1: our guests. People want one. I'm right in the middle
Speaker 1: of the broadcast. One guy walked ocau, Hey, how do
Speaker 1: I get a T shirt? I'm like over there, over there,
Speaker 1: you know, So I think we're gonna set up the
Speaker 1: T shirt and merch table. We had one of the
Speaker 1: where the ride up began at Tremont and Harley in
Speaker 1: New Jersey, and then we had another one at Emmett's,
Speaker 1: and they decided to put it like kind of next
Speaker 1: to the broadcast with them like, I think we're gonna
Speaker 1: have to separate things and be able to get our
Speaker 1: guests in and out much quicker. But NYPD, I mean they,
Speaker 1: I mean, we had Jersey State troopers taken the writers
Speaker 1: from New Jersey to the Lincoln Tunnel and n y
Speaker 1: p D picked them up. And when you stand there
Speaker 1: on a street and a hundred Harley's in a column
Speaker 1: are coming. First of all, it's loud, and it was
Speaker 1: just it was an incredible, incredible day that we to
Speaker 1: raise that kind of money. So yeah, throughout the year
Speaker 1: I worked with Rick, I I donate money. I don't
Speaker 1: brag about it, um, but yeah, to be able to
Speaker 1: send him about six grand or whatever it was, you know,
Speaker 1: for operations, chillout, that's life changing money. If you don't
Speaker 1: know what to do for homeless veterans, right, yeah, they
Speaker 1: they get they work with a network of homeless shelters
Speaker 1: and if they get a call or they get they
Speaker 1: get a veteran who was arrested for a petty you know,
Speaker 1: kind of like if there's a homeless veteran who basically
Speaker 1: gets himself arrested to get a little shell there, the
Speaker 1: police will call them or the homeless shelter will call them,
Speaker 1: and they will come with a backpack of supplies immediately,
Speaker 1: which they keep backpacks with socks, shoes, underwear, change all
Speaker 1: kinds of you know, toiletries, and then they get them
Speaker 1: into a halfway house and then they try to get
Speaker 1: him a job. I'm gonna I'm gonna take some questions
Speaker 1: from the audience at that point, because I know that
Speaker 1: there's a ton of them coming in. People want to
Speaker 1: ask Andrew stuff. I always try to get them in
Speaker 1: and they're always like, you know, be interactive here because
Speaker 1: that's why we do Facebook Live. But UM, I'll look
Speaker 1: through them. I'm the only one here with the computer
Speaker 1: near me. But I did want to ask you about
Speaker 1: um just because I haven't been there with your show
Speaker 1: every day. I actually do tune in when I can.
Speaker 1: What's like the biggest story that the media is avoiding,
Speaker 1: DOCA avoiding, Because what I was gonna say is that,
Speaker 1: for example, when I worked on your show, I remember
Speaker 1: you were talking about the Uranium one deal with Hillary
Speaker 1: Quentin long before the media was, and you were talking
Speaker 1: about it every single day. So I'm just wondering, like,
Speaker 1: what are they not covering that you think they need to. Well,
Speaker 1: it's funny that the bigger excuse now is that John
Speaker 1: Solomon at the Hill has been doing amazing reporting on
Speaker 1: some of these these this Uranium one, the money that
Speaker 1: was flowing people who have been indicted, um, most notably
Speaker 1: one of these trucking company executives who was working with
Speaker 1: the Clintons. It's amazing to me how they want to
Speaker 1: prosecute everything Donald Trump says, any accusation from the past.
Speaker 1: And yet when you're like, yeah, okay, grabbin by the
Speaker 1: P word, that probably wasn't the smartest thing for him
Speaker 1: to say, but it was kind of said in you know,
Speaker 1: just and not meant for public commentary. But you know,
Speaker 1: if you had a Secretary of State and former president
Speaker 1: who were working a deal to you know, sell not
Speaker 1: for transfer for nuclear weapons. One of the biggest conspiracies
Speaker 1: about this that we were trying to give the Russian's
Speaker 1: nuclear weapons. They have nuclear weapons, they have all the
Speaker 1: nuclear weapons you know they could possibly but to give
Speaker 1: them partial control of an energy market or a strategic
Speaker 1: asset market was something that absolutely made no sense. And
Speaker 1: you know, it was the New York Times that when
Speaker 1: conservatives got you know, backlash in the media for this
Speaker 1: is like I was like, I'm reading this in the
Speaker 1: New York Times. That story the story kind of came
Speaker 1: and went, and you can't go, whoa hold on a second.
Speaker 1: You do a whole piece about the Clintons taking a
Speaker 1: hundred fifty million dollars leading up to this uranium deal,
Speaker 1: and we're supposed to go yeah, moving on to something else.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump tweeted, Andrew, can you break down the story
Speaker 1: a little bit. I know it's very complex, but I
Speaker 1: actually have not followed its. Starting in two thousand five,
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton started working with a man named Frank Gistro
Speaker 1: who was a Canadian kind of mining magnet. And he
Speaker 1: was traveling with Gistra as he was expanding operations of
Speaker 1: places like Uzbekistan, and I guess it was nice to
Speaker 1: have the former president of the United States with Bill
Speaker 1: Clinton played a big role in Kazakhstan and other countries.
Speaker 1: On Kazakhstan, he helped open up that after he was
Speaker 1: touring with Frank Gistra and some of these these mining
Speaker 1: investors and they were securing, you know, big mining contracts,
Speaker 1: and over the years, um, you know, there was this
Speaker 1: this building relationship. And then when Hillary Clinton became Secretary
Speaker 1: of State, a mass load of donations started coming into
Speaker 1: the to the Clinton Foundation. And when they say nine
Speaker 1: agencies had to sign off on this, yeah, but what
Speaker 1: those other nine agencies didn't know that only the d
Speaker 1: o J in the State Department apparently knew, was that
Speaker 1: the FBI was investigating some of these these mining operations
Speaker 1: and the money that was flowing in, and then Peter
Speaker 1: Schwitzer put out the book Clinton Cash, and then the
Speaker 1: New York Times put out their piece in so, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's a lot to do right here without me
Speaker 1: kind of having notes in research in front of me.
Speaker 1: But the the it was reminiscent of the Johnny Chung
Speaker 1: Chinese missile Laurel Space and Communications deal, where you had
Speaker 1: money coming in from high ranking Chinese officials. You had
Speaker 1: money coming in from Bernard Schwartz and Laurel Space and Communications,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, Bill Clinton kind of
Speaker 1: lifted sanctions on missile technology to China, and it was like, well,
Speaker 1: did the money play a role in this? Now? You know,
Speaker 1: you would have many in the media who would say, well,
Speaker 1: we don't know if it played a role, want it um.
Speaker 1: But when you're talking a hundred and fifty million dollars um,
Speaker 1: you have to ask the question did it play a role?
Speaker 1: It's so I mean, I think that's how the Clinton's
Speaker 1: and the Clinton Foundation have always operated, that it's this
Speaker 1: quid pro quo that they're very smart about how they
Speaker 1: go about it, because it's hard to foundation, it's hard
Speaker 1: to prove well, you know, you look at their actions
Speaker 1: in haiti Um. We got to interview the former the
Speaker 1: head of their parliament, not the not the prime minister,
Speaker 1: and he said that one of the things that Clinton's
Speaker 1: wanted for for relief was to change the constitution about mining,
Speaker 1: and Tony Rotten walked away with gold mining rights. So
Speaker 1: you know, and that's not not not anything I'm made
Speaker 1: we're supposed to believe. It's all just a was just
Speaker 1: a coincidence. And you know, look, I know that conservatives
Speaker 1: get a bad rap for being kind of the vast
Speaker 1: right wing conspiracy and we hate Hillary and all that stuff,
Speaker 1: but there are some things that you know, as a
Speaker 1: journalist or whoever, there are things that are worthy of
Speaker 1: looking into. And what's what's bizarre is when I ping
Speaker 1: off of a New York Times report, I take angles
Speaker 1: because you hate the Clinton's It's in the New York Times.
Speaker 1: I'm not making this stuff up. It's in the Hill,
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's in it's in Reuters of the
Speaker 1: Associated Press. You always yeah, and I look, I have
Speaker 1: I have rubbed people the wrong way with that. I
Speaker 1: love my my brother in a bright bar, I love
Speaker 1: my friends. A conservative review which I will be on
Speaker 1: their TV platform. But I try to stay with the
Speaker 1: Associated Press and Reuters and AFP and even use the
Speaker 1: New York Times in Washington Post because people can't, well,
Speaker 1: you're just getting that from the right wing blog? Is here?
Speaker 1: Is that the Washington Post? Because I mean the last
Speaker 1: time I checked that wasn't you know that wasn't the
Speaker 1: home of right wing thought. By the way, it would
Speaker 1: be a funny thing that I just have to mention here.
Speaker 1: And I know you have no idea what he's up
Speaker 1: to now, like most of us, But before Steve Bannon
Speaker 1: was Steve Bannon, I just knew him as a guy
Speaker 1: filled in for you A. Yeah, it was you know,
Speaker 1: I've I've had people like, oh you and Bannon. I'm
Speaker 1: like I had. I was around Bannon a couple of times.
Speaker 1: There's the funny photograph that Mike will show you. He
Speaker 1: was at Sea Pack and he was broadcasting and I
Speaker 1: just kind of walked behind him when the cameras are
Speaker 1: there and started doing a yoga pose while he was
Speaker 1: in the middle of some kind of thing. He didn't
Speaker 1: even like seem to know I was there. And after
Speaker 1: Sea Pack I saw him. He used to sit at
Speaker 1: this coffee house in the first floor of our building,
Speaker 1: but there was very few interactions between myself and him.
Speaker 1: He was never in the office when I was there.
Speaker 1: I never went to any of the bright Bar Embassy parties. Um,
Speaker 1: I kind of shy away from, you know, when we're
Speaker 1: at the RNC or Sea Pack, the kind of after
Speaker 1: parties that go on and sometimes go on too too
Speaker 1: late into the night. I just kind of make my
Speaker 1: way back to my hotel room. I have a few drinks,
Speaker 1: you know, Mike, you guys, whoever. But I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not a scene a party scene person, so you know,
Speaker 1: I don't I didn't really spend that much time with it.
Speaker 1: I just thought it was interesting because I don't think
Speaker 1: any of us would have predicted that Stephen caban And
Speaker 1: would be like one of the most famous men in America. Notorious. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I you know, I I gotta be honest. I didn't
Speaker 1: see it coming either. Yeah. Um, So I'm looking at
Speaker 1: the questions here. This is actually a good question that's
Speaker 1: connected to what I just asked. But did Dale as
Speaker 1: Linger watching on Facebook? We've what's the biggest national security
Speaker 1: threat that the mainstream media isn't reporting? Both of you really,
Speaker 1: But um, well, I I've said on I think it
Speaker 1: was on your program or no, maybe it was. No,
Speaker 1: it was on your program when you had a guest host. Um,
Speaker 1: and I said China. And actually since that time, I
Speaker 1: think the media has picked up on that story that
Speaker 1: China is a revisionist power and a serious threat to
Speaker 1: the United States. And I think that that's being covered
Speaker 1: now a lot more than um than it was, you know, say,
Speaker 1: two years ago. Well, I think one of the things
Speaker 1: the media is ignoring, and we've had Gordon Shang on
Speaker 1: about this. There was a story that was actually in
Speaker 1: Chinese media that one of their test sites, I believe
Speaker 1: the place when I want to try to pronounce this right,
Speaker 1: I don't want assault that it was pungi Ree they
Speaker 1: had a test fail that caused an avalanche, and Chinese
Speaker 1: scientists were warning the Chinese government like, hey, maybe their
Speaker 1: safety standards aren't up to par. And I didn't see
Speaker 1: much in the in the media about this that you know,
Speaker 1: maybe it was time to kind of work with the
Speaker 1: Chinese because if the North Koreans are ill equipped to
Speaker 1: handle nuclear weapons, think about what a misfire would do.
Speaker 1: E M P wise to China. So you know, given
Speaker 1: that we have a trade relationship, their economy relies on
Speaker 1: trade partners. Us be the trade partners, European trade partners.
Speaker 1: Let's try to use trade and the fact that the
Speaker 1: North Koreans might be not the best at handling this
Speaker 1: kind of stuff kind of like you know, like this, um,
Speaker 1: maybe we could encourage them to be better allies or
Speaker 1: partners in dealing with North Korea because you know, potentially
Speaker 1: if the North Koreans have a misdetonation, it would have
Speaker 1: effects for negative consequences for China. How about this Hawaii
Speaker 1: uh fake the fake news? Yeah, that was crazy, Gary.
Speaker 1: I mean, imagine getting one of those that there's I
Speaker 1: c b ms incoming. Yeah, especially you know, you imagine
Speaker 1: it here people people get a text that Starbucks run
Speaker 1: in a pumpkin spice, you know, like it right, I
Speaker 1: was saying, imagine that text was in Texas as opposed
Speaker 1: to like Hawaii. I feel like people would be like
Speaker 1: gearing up in the zombie apocalypse immediately, you know. I
Speaker 1: I guess because I didn't get the text, some part
Speaker 1: of me thinks that I would wait for confirmation, you know,
Speaker 1: because my my wonder was you know, when people put
Speaker 1: you in those you know, what would you do if
Speaker 1: the plane was going down? Right? Well, what if the
Speaker 1: plane didn't go down? What what if you thought you
Speaker 1: were about to get hit with a nuclear weapon and
Speaker 1: you only had a half hour to live, But then
Speaker 1: you don't get hit with a nuclear weapon. You know,
Speaker 1: It's like I have explained some explaining to the neighbors
Speaker 1: to do you know, like what what did anyone act
Speaker 1: on that? In this sort of like, hey, I got
Speaker 1: a half hour to live? What do I do with
Speaker 1: that half hour? And then the half hours up when
Speaker 1: you're still there and they're they're broken a strip called Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's gonna leave a mark. I wonder if there is
Speaker 1: that out there we saw putting people and you're putting
Speaker 1: kids in the sewer. I mean, I don't know I
Speaker 1: would want to believe that that you would you would
Speaker 1: see that and go okay, I need I need more.
Speaker 1: I didn't need more, I need more clarification here, like
Speaker 1: you know, um. It reminded me of the story that
Speaker 1: you hear about war the worlds that when they announced
Speaker 1: that alien invasion happened in New Jersey and people were
Speaker 1: freaking out. I was like, hold a whole on a second. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like culturally we've also been kind of desensitized
Speaker 1: because like every time there's like a thunderstorm, you get
Speaker 1: a little word on your phone. The weather channel's going
Speaker 1: crazy saying we're all gonna die, there's a flash flood
Speaker 1: come in, blah blah blah. They're running at a pumpkin
Speaker 1: spice when I mean, what what was that turn they're
Speaker 1: using for that snowstorm? It snowed like six inches snow mgeddon.
Speaker 1: It was like death cycle, cyclone bomb or something like that that.
Speaker 1: I drove right through it. I drove. I just put
Speaker 1: my car and foil drive, went right through it like
Speaker 1: it wasn't even there. So yeah, I wonder if that,
Speaker 1: like that message did go out well back to your
Speaker 1: mean thing that you know, causing a panic, you know,
Speaker 1: and this is this is a fear that when you
Speaker 1: when you have twenty four hour coverage of snow Mageddon
Speaker 1: or the cyclone bomb and then real you have three
Speaker 1: inches of snow and people aren't dead, The power grid
Speaker 1: hasn't gone down, you know, there isn't there isn't like
Speaker 1: war for the last gallon of milk. You know, how
Speaker 1: many times do you cry wolf before people go and
Speaker 1: then you get a text nuclear weapons being launched. That's
Speaker 1: the same thing too. With that, you know, not to
Speaker 1: go back to Trump's Twitter, but every single day it's
Speaker 1: could you believe what Trump tweeted? And that's believe it?
Speaker 1: Something about that Basbok. He was like, yes, I believe it,
Speaker 1: no matter before you even tell me what he tweeted.
Speaker 1: And he was like, thank god, Congress has you know
Speaker 1: power in our country. We don't live in a dictator
Speaker 1: I forgot who said it, but they said they said
Speaker 1: Twitter is the laser point. Trump is the laser point,
Speaker 1: and the media is the cat. You know that, Like
Speaker 1: he probably I would not be watched this. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tweet something out here. We go, there you go. I
Speaker 1: can't I sneaky Diane, I can't do it. I can't
Speaker 1: do that. I can't do the daily outrage. I just
Speaker 1: can't do it. I agree. There's there's one guy who
Speaker 1: always tweets me wants me to be as outraged as him.
Speaker 1: Aren't you outraged? Yeah? Why aren't you outraged? So this
Speaker 1: this is actually probably a question you get a lot
Speaker 1: on your radio show. I just know, as a guy
Speaker 1: who screens phone calls when I was there. Um, Steve
Speaker 1: Lindberg Lindbergh, baby, okay on on YouTube, that's the next
Speaker 1: episode of Jack's TV show. We're digging, Baby, We're gonna
Speaker 1: find it. Do you feel there's a massive case of trees?
Speaker 1: And with the Quintin's, I think they learned to perfect
Speaker 1: early on in Arkansas. If you go back and read
Speaker 1: their relationship with Tyson foods um and and the you
Speaker 1: know when here's the weird thing. My understanding of that
Speaker 1: started with Jerry Brown. It wasn't anything that I was like,
Speaker 1: can I find something there? Jerry Brown in the ninety
Speaker 1: two primaries looked right at Bill Clinton, said you had
Speaker 1: you were looking the other way while Tyson Food was polluted,
Speaker 1: polluting the white water and your wife was the attorney
Speaker 1: for Tyson food ship. Well your states. Yeah, So this
Speaker 1: this started with Jerry Brown. And before Bill Clinton was
Speaker 1: the Bill Clinton, the be got really interested in his
Speaker 1: relationship with the Walton family and and Mena Arkansas. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of nefarious activities that went down. There's that too,
Speaker 1: cocaine cowboys. But before Bill Clinton became you know JFK
Speaker 1: two point oh um or as Colin Quinton what said
Speaker 1: JFK had Mari Monroe and Bill Clinton went for the
Speaker 1: first pair of acid wash jeans that fell out of
Speaker 1: the butt rock, which I love him. That the media
Speaker 1: was very willing to report more heavily on on their
Speaker 1: sort of their pay for play. And I think it
Speaker 1: only grew as as their influence grew. I think the
Speaker 1: money got bigger and the the interests got bigger. So
Speaker 1: you started with, you know, environmental issues in the White
Speaker 1: River and pollution and the biggest two biggest employers in
Speaker 1: Arkansas are Walmartin Tyson Foods. And then you move up
Speaker 1: to uranium. Yeah, you move up to uranium, and I
Speaker 1: just I can't This is what I don't understand about
Speaker 1: the Clints. How much is enough? You know, at what
Speaker 1: point do you say we are really potentially creating something
Speaker 1: that could threaten the United States? And when I when
Speaker 1: I'm not one of these people I've argued. I argued
Speaker 1: with Mark Cuban about this. Mark Cuban kind of came
Speaker 1: after me, like you don't really think that the Clintons
Speaker 1: are sending uranium to RUSSI I'm like, no, no no, no, no,
Speaker 1: not loading up an a C one thirty and sending
Speaker 1: it over there. But they are giving them entrance into
Speaker 1: the market where if the Russians are the worst thing
Speaker 1: in the world, why would you want them controlling even
Speaker 1: one percent of American mind uranium. By the way, that
Speaker 1: was one of those things that just started as like
Speaker 1: tweets back and forth, right and then you know, after
Speaker 1: after tweeting back and forth and me saying, look, I
Speaker 1: actually respect some of your your you know what, you
Speaker 1: what you believe, I think you're barking up the wrong
Speaker 1: tree looking for me is like some sort of you know, crazy,
Speaker 1: you know person. And then he came on the program.
Speaker 1: It was kind of like, you're not so bad. I
Speaker 1: did get. What was more out there than Mark Cuban
Speaker 1: randomly kind of calling in or Caitlyn Jenner randomly calling
Speaker 1: have you seen the pictures of that? Yes? Okay? Um?
Speaker 1: That I think was more bizarre for people at Serious
Speaker 1: x M, because I had one executive recently say to
Speaker 1: me that you are the cross sided, redheaded stepchild at
Speaker 1: this company and I and she's like, I mean that
Speaker 1: in the best way possible. That Look, it's it's Manhattan,
Speaker 1: It's the entertainment industry. It is it is what it is,
Speaker 1: you know, this is this town. And I think that
Speaker 1: the people who don't like conservative media, we can't understand
Speaker 1: how a Caitlin Jenner could possibly possibly like my program. Um.
Speaker 1: The same thing goes for Kristen Beck. Kristin Beck Lessons
Speaker 1: calls regularly that Kristin Beck cole recently and said, Andrew,
Speaker 1: you know your beliefs on on a free society. They extended,
Speaker 1: well like me, and it's a yeah, okay, thanks, hung
Speaker 1: up satisfying you know that that that that's where that's
Speaker 1: the libertarian and me talking, you know. But when Caitlyn
Speaker 1: Jenner came in and was set to do this the
Speaker 1: big book release from Andy Cohen from BABO, and Caitlyn
Speaker 1: Jenner is sitting in the in the green room and
Speaker 1: they said, could we get you anything? He said yeah,
Speaker 1: Caitlyn said yeah. Andrew Andrew wilco and they're like wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: wait what? So he and ian Ian and I get
Speaker 1: summoned to the green room and there's the Caitlyn Jenner
Speaker 1: sitting there, you know, and just hops up and both
Speaker 1: of them. Remember I saw the picture. It was like
Speaker 1: when the kind of persia has his hands on me
Speaker 1: and shoulders like, I think, first of all, the inscription
Speaker 1: of the book is to my work in progress. And
Speaker 1: I was like, that's ironic, um, But forgetting this siss
Speaker 1: mail versus zimsayser, what we know is Bruce Jenner and
Speaker 1: I and I said this to Caitly, I said, you
Speaker 1: will always be the Bruce Jenner on the wheaties box
Speaker 1: to my generation. I said, but if you want to
Speaker 1: live your life this way, this is entirely up to you.
Speaker 1: You still have to remember this is a world class
Speaker 1: athlete who is larger than most men and now wearing
Speaker 1: high heels. Caitlyn Jenner hops up off the chair and
Speaker 1: just douges my shoulder with and I'm using gender Caitlin's
Speaker 1: thumb and I'm like AOI and spins me around and
Speaker 1: we take this picture, and I was I kind of
Speaker 1: looked at Ian with a kind of sly smile as
Speaker 1: as I'm getting this kind of like finger in the face.
Speaker 1: But you know, it was, it was, It was very
Speaker 1: It was more surreal to see the look on the
Speaker 1: people's faces in the room, like what am I seeing here?
Speaker 1: This guy is you know, in my mind, this right
Speaker 1: wing monster and here is the person who is you know,
Speaker 1: bray barriers for the transgender community and this person likes him,
Speaker 1: you know, so that was that was a very weird.
Speaker 1: The pictures were phenomenal. Yes, they do, they do. They
Speaker 1: do speak a lot to picture, can say a thousand
Speaker 1: words what they are. I have no idea should show
Speaker 1: it to the camera, Yeah, I'll repost it or something.
Speaker 1: And we took it. Yeah. It almost reminds me, to
Speaker 1: be honest of like when we've met Trace Atkins, who
Speaker 1: was a friend of the show. Just powers above everybody,
Speaker 1: like you know you talk about on the show Behind
Speaker 1: you know, the plastic surgery, like Kitlin, what was Bruce
Speaker 1: Jenner as you said, it's like a genetic freak of
Speaker 1: a man, you know, and you know, without sending people
Speaker 1: to the angrily, you know, send things to you. Yes,
Speaker 1: Caitlin was once a you know, just like Kristen Beck
Speaker 1: was once. I remember saying to to to Chief Beck.
Speaker 1: I was like, well how about you bench and Chief
Speaker 1: Beck was like three fifteen. I'm like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: most women don't bet pounds. So you know, even if
Speaker 1: that is that that they're chosen lifestyle, you can't give
Speaker 1: up on the fact that you were a Navy seal
Speaker 1: that you know, hoisted lugs over your head and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. I mean, you are big beef. I heard
Speaker 1: Kristen Beck went the last well, one of the last
Speaker 1: times Kristen Beck was on the show, and you were
Speaker 1: in studio with John Gillham, and Kristen Beck was like, John,
Speaker 1: how much do you bet? Exactly kind of conversation that
Speaker 1: we're having here, You know, like, I don't discuss. When
Speaker 1: I tell my wife how much I bet, She's like,
Speaker 1: I don't care. She's like, I don't care. Yeah, that's funny. Um,
Speaker 1: So I'm looking at some other questions here. This is
Speaker 1: actually a pretty good question for all of us. I think, um,
Speaker 1: do you think that radio shows or podcasts can eventually
Speaker 1: overpower the twenty four hour news cycle? How can small
Speaker 1: media companies stand a chance against CNN, MSNBC and Fox
Speaker 1: when they seem to have large bases of revenue streaming
Speaker 1: in I think it's already happening. Yeah, well, I think
Speaker 1: the truth is and I, you know, not to discount myself,
Speaker 1: I think that the network chieftains. You look at the
Speaker 1: kind of money that's been lost on the signing of
Speaker 1: of of some big media personalities. Recently without naming names. UM,
Speaker 1: I think the days of throwing a twenty million dollar
Speaker 1: contract at somebody. UM. I think that because people want
Speaker 1: into this business, I think that they're gonna that. You
Speaker 1: look at podcasters who edit their own podcast or people
Speaker 1: that do their own YouTube channels. You know. I'll be
Speaker 1: honest with you, at the new CRTV studio, myself and
Speaker 1: my producer maybe wielling out the desk for the first
Speaker 1: few months. And I think where this business has m
Speaker 1: built some prima donnas. I think the new sort of
Speaker 1: rogue new media types are a little bit more rough
Speaker 1: and tumble and don't expect that twenty million dollar pay day,
Speaker 1: you know that Like when you look at some of
Speaker 1: the network news salaries. I think eventually, when they don't
Speaker 1: get their bank for that buck anymore, you know, and
Speaker 1: when people start subscribing to new media, and when you
Speaker 1: see that revenue lost at some of these networks, I
Speaker 1: think that that's when you'll see either the networks adopt
Speaker 1: programs like mine or like yours or whoever's or their
Speaker 1: business model will get outdated. I don't know. I I
Speaker 1: think the audience is to even like that kind of
Speaker 1: rough and tumble they don't. They don't want it to
Speaker 1: be like overproduced. They wanted to feel you know, natural, authentic.
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. The Fox News called me up
Speaker 1: and said, look, you know we're buying you out. I will.
Speaker 1: You know, look, we're all in this business to make money.
Speaker 1: But you know, I've watched, I've watched. I remember when
Speaker 1: I first got into radio and some of the paychecks
Speaker 1: that you'd hear about morning anchors on local station. We're
Speaker 1: not talking the big you know, syndicated shows. It was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. And then as the years went on,
Speaker 1: it was kind of like, you know, DJ salaries almost
Speaker 1: became like an hourly wage. Um. You know, I think
Speaker 1: that that the the audience is spreading out. When you
Speaker 1: only had three channels and three network anchors, right, you're
Speaker 1: paying for one third of the market. I think as
Speaker 1: these networks kind of lose market, I would say it's
Speaker 1: almost like the brewing companies. Right at first Sam Adams
Speaker 1: wasn't really a threat, and then you had all these
Speaker 1: up start breweries and then the big brewery started buying
Speaker 1: up some of these some of these brewing companies kind
Speaker 1: of get them out of the way, or at least
Speaker 1: own their market share, that those brewing companies were surviving
Speaker 1: without the kind of revenue of an Anheuser Bush And
Speaker 1: I think as long as there are people who will
Speaker 1: survive on the salaries and revenue they drive for their
Speaker 1: new programs, it will force the networks to reefing their
Speaker 1: business models. I would argue that Joe Rogan, I think
Speaker 1: has a bigger audience than just about anybody. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't really hear people talk about that. You hear
Speaker 1: what this host said on this show, but I constantly
Speaker 1: hear about who Joe Rogan had on He's always like
Speaker 1: the top of the the Apple podcast chart. And that's why,
Speaker 1: Like when a Lance Armstrong wanted to do an in
Speaker 1: depth interview about his steroid use about everything, that's where
Speaker 1: he went. He didn't go to a major network or
Speaker 1: UM Barack Obama. When he did that in depth interview,
Speaker 1: it was with UM Mark Mark Barron, So you know,
Speaker 1: I know Mark Barron, and that's a whole another subject.
Speaker 1: Like not very successful with the liberal talk radio, but
Speaker 1: he found his niche with this podcast thing, and like
Speaker 1: there's podcasts that have way bigger listenership. Then stole the
Speaker 1: versions of podcasting from where I said, yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: I'm just you know, well, Sirius XM is great as well,
Speaker 1: and it is also an alternative to like the traditional
Speaker 1: am FM thing going on. You know, you've talked about
Speaker 1: it before, the fact that you're competing in the time slot.
Speaker 1: Rush Limbos says at eleven years and almost twelve, um,
Speaker 1: this is a good one for you, Andrew from Marshall
Speaker 1: Goally um watching on Facebook give We all know that
Speaker 1: the first term mid term elections are a bad are
Speaker 1: bad for the president's party. Any predictions about Republican loss
Speaker 1: is also what happened with Jeff Flake, as I remember
Speaker 1: he started out as one of the quote good guys. Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, I think you can be offended at
Speaker 1: the President's tweets, right, I know plenty of could serves
Speaker 1: that don't like it. They think the candor is terrible,
Speaker 1: they think it's a distraction. They would they wish he
Speaker 1: would just govern. You know that that that that all
Speaker 1: that should have been left on the campaign trail and
Speaker 1: now he should you be giving up? I I get
Speaker 1: all that. I mean, even though as somebody who thinks
Speaker 1: that we kind of if you're gonna have, if you're
Speaker 1: gonna drain the swamp. You're gonna have to cause kus
Speaker 1: if you're gonna cause casting it a chaotic figure, right,
Speaker 1: You're not gonna get one without the other. That's that's
Speaker 1: my belief on it. Jeff Flake trying to refer to
Speaker 1: you know, normally it's reducto at Hitler room right. It's like,
Speaker 1: I don't like you, you're Hitler two. Claim that Donald
Speaker 1: Trump has any relationship to a man who starved millions
Speaker 1: of people and what's known now historically as food as
Speaker 1: a weapon. I think this extreme comparisons. It's like comparing
Speaker 1: telling a dirty joke to rape, which is happening with
Speaker 1: the Me too movement that some feminists are now starting
Speaker 1: to worry that that that trying to put everything in
Speaker 1: one big best like he looked at me funny. That's
Speaker 1: not like rape, you know. But but when you put
Speaker 1: when you start to compare Donald Trump to Joseph Stalin
Speaker 1: and Adolf Hitler, you're really downplaying what kind of absolute monsters,
Speaker 1: To be fair, you did compared with because of its propaganda.
Speaker 1: As far as the Republican losses. Here here's the thing,
Speaker 1: you know, could this be a stock market bubble? Yes?
Speaker 1: Could these bonuses be a one off thing. But if
Speaker 1: he gets the economy right, if unemployment stays low, if
Speaker 1: manure the unemployment like unemployment is historic lows, if people
Speaker 1: are having more money to spend and they're genuinely happy,
Speaker 1: the Democrats message having to be something other than that
Speaker 1: is gonna be well, we want to take this all
Speaker 1: away from you. I mean, how if they can't. You
Speaker 1: can't argue with success. That was why Bill Clinton got
Speaker 1: reelected right. The Republicans didn't have an argument against what
Speaker 1: was seen as it's the economy stupid, right. Bill Clinton
Speaker 1: worked with Republicans and got it right on the economy. Um,
Speaker 1: if Donald Trump gets it right on the economy, what's
Speaker 1: the argument against it? What? What is what is the
Speaker 1: argument against for the average voter. If there's more money
Speaker 1: in their back pockets, if they have more money to spend,
Speaker 1: if therefore, oh one case, or performing better, if jobs
Speaker 1: are being created in communities that were once decimated by
Speaker 1: job loss. Now jobs are coming back. I mean, Grant
Speaker 1: Dodge just announced that the RAM factories are opening back
Speaker 1: and they're moving in their production from Mexico back into
Speaker 1: the United States. If this trend continues for the next
Speaker 1: two years. All I would ask anyone from the other
Speaker 1: side of the als, what's your argument against it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean people vote with their pocketbooks at the end
Speaker 1: of the day. Yeah, although, um, you know to to
Speaker 1: give the other side, as we often do on here.
Speaker 1: We were talking about the tax cut plant, you know,
Speaker 1: the tax cuts, and you were saying, like people like
Speaker 1: you hurts people like my parents, and which is kind
Speaker 1: of weird. You like, I was under you know, I
Speaker 1: think people are under the impression that if you're in
Speaker 1: a higher tax bracket, whether you live in New York
Speaker 1: or you live in you know, Louisiana, the Republicans are
Speaker 1: good for you know, your paycheck, and like people like
Speaker 1: my parents and are getting absolutely screwed, which is kind
Speaker 1: of surprising, right I think. Look, I still I I
Speaker 1: still advocate for the flat tax. Um. You know, if
Speaker 1: you want to make a constitutional equal protection order the law,
Speaker 1: we should play pay a single rate for the fair tax,
Speaker 1: no deductions. I live in New Jersey. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: one of these people that's gonna, you know, have to
Speaker 1: deal with the state and local tax deduction. And you're
Speaker 1: a property owner. Um the I I guess, um, And
Speaker 1: you see the kind of panic. You know, Phil Murphy
Speaker 1: got inaugurated today. You know, the question is, okay, so
Speaker 1: what are we democrats in these high tech states do
Speaker 1: you know? You know, it's real easy, it's real easy
Speaker 1: to virtue signal. Look at us. We're in Massachusetts. We
Speaker 1: invest in all kinds of these things. Yeah, but now
Speaker 1: you gotta pay for it. So when when California and
Speaker 1: New York, New Jersey, Illinois have to pay for these
Speaker 1: wildly generous salaries and pensions for their public employees, when
Speaker 1: they want to brag on their investments in in in
Speaker 1: infrastructured education. It was real easy so long as everybody
Speaker 1: was able to write it off, right, what do you care? Right?
Speaker 1: And these taxes, that is write it off. But once
Speaker 1: you can't write it off, then you gotta You're gonna see,
Speaker 1: you know, what I say publicly and what I do privately.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like these Hollywood people like I live
Speaker 1: in Malibu, but your production companies in Sun Valley, Idaho.
Speaker 1: You know, so that's where you're really paying taxes. You're
Speaker 1: you're gonna The question is what are the blue state
Speaker 1: voters going to do the next time they could elect
Speaker 1: a new state government. I gotta get your opinion before
Speaker 1: you get out of here. On and by the way,
Speaker 1: I should point out Andrew just did a three hour
Speaker 1: radio show that right here, and I'm going over to
Speaker 1: what your TV show in a bit? Did I did
Speaker 1: I miss my window to do? Oh boy? Um, I'm
Speaker 1: supposed to be over at at at uh at um
Speaker 1: CRTV right now on their Facebook feed. Damn. All right,
Speaker 1: well let's wrap this up, all right, um, but it's funny.
Speaker 1: Mike Bins has often said, like you could wake Andrew
Speaker 1: out of a deep sleep like Andrew do a radio
Speaker 1: show right now and you'd be able to which I
Speaker 1: really believe. I was just gonna ask real quick, then
Speaker 1: what's your take on Oprah running for president? I'm sure
Speaker 1: you've an interesting all right. Look, they're getting very really
Speaker 1: mad at me. Where are you? What are you close?
Speaker 1: What are you doing? You're supposed to be on Facebook
Speaker 1: now or I see your live on Suffering though, Eric,
Speaker 1: I'm coming right over. It's a half block away. Tell
Speaker 1: them you are. I am live on UM. The thing
Speaker 1: with Oprah, I think my only question would be Donald
Speaker 1: Trump came into an established field of Republican to it
Speaker 1: all lined up their ducks and he had a he
Speaker 1: had a bullet strike. Is she willing to walk in
Speaker 1: and do that and bullish strike and knock Elizabeth Warren
Speaker 1: out of the way, not Corey Booker out of the way,
Speaker 1: not Kamala Harris out of the way, because and are
Speaker 1: they gonna let her do it? Are they going to
Speaker 1: have to come back around? It's like you have no experience,
Speaker 1: you have no idea what you're doing. It would I
Speaker 1: I think, just like it's set off a war in
Speaker 1: Republican circles, it would set up a war in Democrats circles.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna all right, I'll let you go and
Speaker 1: I'll and I'll plug everything by the way, Thanks man, dude,
Speaker 1: thanks for doing this as always, Andrew appreciate it. And
Speaker 1: I will plug everything and Andrew up to. So check
Speaker 1: out crtv dot com if you want to become a subscriber.
Speaker 1: If you again, when you have some more time, Andrew's
Speaker 1: Uh Andrew Show is gonna debut this month, So it's
Speaker 1: crtv dot com. Andrew's website is willcow Majority dot com
Speaker 1: at willcow Majority on Twitter. That's really funny that we
Speaker 1: totally un into his time there. But I enjoyed the
Speaker 1: man really Andrews, you know, the most high energy guy
Speaker 1: in the world. He just did a three hour show,
Speaker 1: ran over here, did this now going over to He's
Speaker 1: got the right person. You know. I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: too boring for for radio and uh in television. Also,
Speaker 1: I never thought I'd be on TV for that reason,
Speaker 1: Like who wants to sit there and watch Jack Murphy
Speaker 1: like read a book for three hours or something like.
Speaker 1: You know, it was very high energy in your community
Speaker 1: that I'd say, I think you already know him to
Speaker 1: say Terry Shophard, Oh, Terry great, yea, yeah, he's always
Speaker 1: extremely high energy. Um So I guess before we get
Speaker 1: to the why the just reads here and wrap everything up.
Speaker 1: I got plugs, yeah, do it? Go for it tonight? Uh,
Speaker 1: episode three of the Tesla show airs where we went
Speaker 1: to Serbia, and that'll be pretty interesting and um right
Speaker 1: now it should be published already. UM. I wrote an
Speaker 1: article about this movie twelve Strong that's coming out where
Speaker 1: Thor plays a Special Forces captain. UM. I wrote an
Speaker 1: article about I haven't seen the movie. I talked to
Speaker 1: people who have some awareness of it, and uh, some
Speaker 1: of this stuff that was going on in the set
Speaker 1: and anyway. So it's like kind of a background or
Speaker 1: about the film, and it's I'm kind of notorious for
Speaker 1: writing like negative film reviews and trash and movies. I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not trashing the movie. I'm just saying, understand
Speaker 1: what it is and what it isn't when you go
Speaker 1: and see it. And if you read that article, I'll
Speaker 1: give you a little bit of a background on it. Said, Um,
Speaker 1: you said that, so that's this movie, right, Uh, yes,
Speaker 1: which we are going to try to get. Doug Stanton
Speaker 1: actually reached out. So really it'll be interesting, Uh, I'll
Speaker 1: try It'll be interesting because the civil the guys tell
Speaker 1: me that the book is in the movie are both
Speaker 1: pretty inaccurate. Their experience was interesting, but we didn't have
Speaker 1: that conversation of course. Yeah. Um, so we covered this earlier,
Speaker 1: but a trillion thoughts asks and I think this is inaccurate.
Speaker 1: Sol correct it, but says what made you guys bring
Speaker 1: down the paywall for soft rep TV. The paywall is
Speaker 1: not down for softwarep TV correct, just down for for
Speaker 1: software soft rep dot com. And as for what made it,
Speaker 1: I think we covered some of that. I don't know
Speaker 1: if there's anything we Yeah, I mean I don't. I'm
Speaker 1: an editor and I deal with the content, so I
Speaker 1: don't know. I can't like walk you through the numbers
Speaker 1: and everything of like why, But I think it's just
Speaker 1: about getting more more page views, getting very well. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so we're not relying just on soft reap anymore. We
Speaker 1: have all these other endeavors. There's a whole constellation UM
Speaker 1: underneath Hurricane, and soft Rep is one of them. So
Speaker 1: we're not totally relying on soft Rep subscriptions for UM
Speaker 1: for revenue. So we're able to kind of open up
Speaker 1: that door and share our material with a much larger audience.
Speaker 1: Now I see that Andrew's producer wrote, Yes, this is
Speaker 1: Andrew's producer. He's totally late. That's funny. Um. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that's great to see. So we have a shot show
Speaker 1: coming up next week, a bunch of us next week
Speaker 1: already hotly sh it, we're a week away, buddy treating
Speaker 1: up on me. Um. I'm trying to think if there's
Speaker 1: anything else that we haven't covered. Um. I think we
Speaker 1: we got into a lot here. So that's yeah, that's
Speaker 1: about it, man. Yeah, we have some great people coming
Speaker 1: on soon. Daniel Bezier will be back in studio. Who
Speaker 1: um is now full time at there's full time at
Speaker 1: the side or part time right, she's full time with us, Yeah,
Speaker 1: full time at the site as a writer. And people
Speaker 1: really enjoyed her um last time she was on an
Speaker 1: enteral loving her articles. So yeah, I know it's super
Speaker 1: cool that she's on board now writing for us, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure it'll be a fun conversation. I dig it man,
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Speaker 1: James Powell, the Odissean, a bunch of other people, a
Speaker 1: bunch of people from the website will be around. Yeah no,
Speaker 1: I'm psyched, man, So I think this was cool. This
Speaker 1: was a different type of show. We're usually special ops
Speaker 1: news and all that, but Andrew is just not only
Speaker 1: a friend to the site, but like the guy who
Speaker 1: introduced me to everybody. I'm glad we could have Andrew on.
Speaker 1: Instead of us being a guest on his show, you
Speaker 1: can be a guest on ours. Yeah, well technically I've
Speaker 1: I've never you know, I'm the guy who answered and
Speaker 1: Brandon just one day texted me. And while I was
Speaker 1: part time there, I became full time around the same
Speaker 1: time that Brandon texted me and said, do you want
Speaker 1: to do the podcast with us? And it was like absolutely,
Speaker 1: why not. So it's been a blast doing it. I
Speaker 1: mean it's been over four years at this point, so
Speaker 1: it's really all thanks to Andrew Wilkew. Like, if you
Speaker 1: want to look at Faeton all that, if I had
Speaker 1: I have not met Andrew, wouldn't have met you guys.
Speaker 1: It just wouldn't have happened. So, um, yeah, it's great.
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Speaker 1: to get our visibility up and now that everything is free, like,
Speaker 1: it's all this great content, so just help us get
Speaker 1: our visibility up. And there's so much stuff in the archives.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, soft reap dot com. There there's some zingers
Speaker 1: in there, there's some good stuff. Uh, you know, you
Speaker 1: go searching around in there. Um. Everything I've ever written
Speaker 1: is on there, or everything I've ever written as far
Speaker 1: as like journalism is on there um and many many
Speaker 1: other great writers that we've had working for us. Um.
Speaker 1: So it's exciting that all that stuff is shared with
Speaker 1: a larger audience. Now. Yeah, I you know, I didn't
Speaker 1: have time to get into it in the whole intro
Speaker 1: with Andrew because I didn't want to, you know, waste
Speaker 1: too much of his time. But the thing that I
Speaker 1: always think of is that I think there's certain investigative
Speaker 1: pieces you have written in particular that I could very
Speaker 1: well see being like top of Drudge Report linking to
Speaker 1: soft rep. But for the most part, these type of
Speaker 1: websites don't want to link to a paid subscription service.
Speaker 1: So I think it will really help us get page
Speaker 1: views up and get our name out there to bigger outlets.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it will. Um. You know, because we were
Speaker 1: a subscriber service, UM, and we we had this very
Speaker 1: interesting thing going on, and it was it was a
Speaker 1: niche and um, in some way it was kind of
Speaker 1: elitist because it's like you have to be a member
Speaker 1: to read, which I personally liked because you could see
Speaker 1: the pandemonium on the internet and on social media and
Speaker 1: how it's like a free fer all. Um and the
Speaker 1: comments section, Oh my god, the comments section will never
Speaker 1: read the comments. And I mean, look, I'm I'll tell
Speaker 1: you right here on Facebook Live, like I don't read
Speaker 1: the comments often on our Facebook page response sometimes though,
Speaker 1: but sometimes once in a while, but I very rarely
Speaker 1: read them to begin with, because most people are just
Speaker 1: having an emotional sort of you know, lashing out about
Speaker 1: a headline or something like that. UM. And I always
Speaker 1: like to soffer it because we had a subscriber service
Speaker 1: and like the people who are there were people who
Speaker 1: wanted to be there and they could disagree with what's written,
Speaker 1: of course and have that conversation. But it wasn't um,
Speaker 1: the sort of like free for all name calling childish
Speaker 1: nonsense that we see on social media. But um, nonetheless,
Speaker 1: I mean we it's still is that way, if you
Speaker 1: want to leave, you have to be a member to
Speaker 1: leave a comment on the site. So for the people
Speaker 1: who do hang out on the website and enjoy those conversations, um,
Speaker 1: it's not going to be that free for all that
Speaker 1: they find on it. And there's other incentives to be
Speaker 1: a member to, you know, like the team room party. Um,
Speaker 1: hopefully we'll do another one of those next year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of other functionality on the website. There's
Speaker 1: people who like the chat functions and all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. So yeah, very cool. And yeah, I think
Speaker 1: of like an article, you know, like the dick by
Speaker 1: sixth article de peaceably would have been picked up by
Speaker 1: other news news agency. Here's here's some news on on
Speaker 1: DP six Uh, CNN is producing an article on it.
Speaker 1: Then they've been down far to interviewing people. Will you
Speaker 1: at least get any credit for any probably notably, they're
Speaker 1: probably gonna claim that they're breaking this story. I'm sure, Um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, they're they're following on my heels, I guess.
Speaker 1: I mean they were interested in I don't know how
Speaker 1: they got a tip about this story to begin with,
Speaker 1: but they were already attempting to work on this story
Speaker 1: around the same time that I started working on the story, Okay,
Speaker 1: because I was gonna say, I do you know and
Speaker 1: you know this too. I even just see from who
Speaker 1: follows us on Twitter and stuff. There's plenty of news
Speaker 1: agencies and news news hosting stuff who follow stuff wrap,
Speaker 1: who read all of our stuff watch, and there are
Speaker 1: outlets um like CNN. Honestly, I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. And it's not a criticism of
Speaker 1: the story they're working on about DP six and all that,
Speaker 1: all that good stuff. Um, but CNN has in the
Speaker 1: past hijacked my work. I mean there's one woman they
Speaker 1: had working for them for a wile that would read
Speaker 1: my stories and then she just rewrite them in her
Speaker 1: own words and go upon there. It's like, man, really,
Speaker 1: um who from the Hive? The Chive? Even foreign Policy? Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I did a big story about how technology
Speaker 1: was impacting espionage and I interviewed a bunch of CIA
Speaker 1: people and one Massad uh former MASSAD officer, and um,
Speaker 1: like to three weeks later, there's a story on Foreign
Speaker 1: Policy about the same subject. Uh. They went and tried
Speaker 1: to cut rolling Stone. They took they wanted to talk
Speaker 1: to me about the Wayne Simmons story, and I refused
Speaker 1: as because I don't talk to Rolling Stone as just
Speaker 1: a matter of principle. And um, they like basically rewrote
Speaker 1: my story and they even used the same pictures. It
Speaker 1: was pretty incredible, all right. Well, thanks as always for
Speaker 1: tuning in guys. Uh, Andrew entertaining as always. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: and I know tomorrow he's off to Disney World of
Speaker 1: all places. Guy's busy, man. Yeah, he is, like I.
Speaker 1: I I'm single and don't have It's I don't know
Speaker 1: that whole life, but I'm sure like you, having one kid,
Speaker 1: there's a lot to manage. I can't imagine having three.
Speaker 1: And immediately when I saw him, he was like, fall
Speaker 1: it's not falling asleep, you know. So he just telling
Speaker 1: me like a lot of stuff. He was out to. Um,
Speaker 1: but thanks again to him for coming on. Um, leave
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