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Speaker 1: Soft rep dot com on time on target. We're live
Speaker 1: streaming this one, I mean in Scotto. James Powell in
Speaker 1: studio with me, former intelligence officer and marine writer for
Speaker 1: soft rep dot com. Thank you for coming over from
Speaker 1: the New Jersey Philadelphia region. Thank you for having me again. Man. Yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: it's always good having you in here. So, I guess
Speaker 1: for the audience, they probably want to know what you've
Speaker 1: been up to. You've been writing, and you wrote some
Speaker 1: pieces in December. I saw, um the jps um adventures
Speaker 1: and spy Land stuff, just just some anecdotal stuff from
Speaker 1: my time when I was at the agency. Um, it's
Speaker 1: it's pretty it's pretty vague, but it's still fun because
Speaker 1: there's only certain things that I can say. But I'm
Speaker 1: actually working on the third part of it right now. Nice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then I'll wrap it up with something that kind
Speaker 1: of puts it all together, so that'll be on soft
Speaker 1: rep dot com. Um. I guess for the audience who
Speaker 1: hasn't seen those pieces, do you want to give like
Speaker 1: a little synopsis and then teasier for them to chuck
Speaker 1: it out. So um, and for anyone that's read it, it's,
Speaker 1: like I said, it's very general because I can't be
Speaker 1: specific about whether it was a training exercise or a
Speaker 1: real world situation. Um, those who have been in the
Speaker 1: business will know probably more than likely once they read it.
Speaker 1: But whether it's training exercise or it was real real
Speaker 1: world you can, it all carries over one into the other.
Speaker 1: So basically it starts with me getting into an airport
Speaker 1: and sweating, like you know, like it was a hundred
Speaker 1: degrees out because from the time that I got into
Speaker 1: that area to the time that I left, I knew
Speaker 1: that I was under observation and I could be arrested
Speaker 1: or detained at any time. So just talks about that,
Speaker 1: you know, the preparation that goes into that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Then something as simple as checking into my hotel room,
Speaker 1: you know, um and getting into the hotel room. For
Speaker 1: other people, it might be you know, simple, hey, get
Speaker 1: my key, go to my room, you know, relax a
Speaker 1: little bit or whatever. But um, for me, and I
Speaker 1: was very new at the time that I was doing this,
Speaker 1: it was check into the room, get into the room,
Speaker 1: and then start prepping for what I had to do
Speaker 1: my whole reason for being there. And uh so it
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I didn't do it, but it
Speaker 1: was like you know, you've seen the movies, you know,
Speaker 1: look out the door before you close it and then
Speaker 1: lock it. You know, it locked the door, and it
Speaker 1: was a rule make sure your door, your room was
Speaker 1: locked at all times. Um. And then I started planning
Speaker 1: what I had to do. So for this, I had
Speaker 1: a series of meetings that I had to do, so
Speaker 1: I needed You can't just go into this, you know,
Speaker 1: fly into countries or wherever you're at, and uh just
Speaker 1: call somebody and say, hey, can we meet. I mean
Speaker 1: you could if you you really had to, but you
Speaker 1: really want to plan these things ahead of time. So
Speaker 1: the people that I was meeting with, we're supposed to
Speaker 1: meet with new ahead of time that I was coming.
Speaker 1: So this is already pre planned. But what wasn't planned
Speaker 1: was where and what time. So then you have to
Speaker 1: do legwork. You know, we call map at first, some
Speaker 1: people call it that. You know, I look at a
Speaker 1: map of the area that I'm in, which I had
Speaker 1: already looked at before. But I'm double checking it, uh,
Speaker 1: looking at possible places to meet, and then I go
Speaker 1: out in the streets and I'll walk around and you know,
Speaker 1: get the lay of the land, get to know the city,
Speaker 1: the transportation, uh, public transplation and those sorts of things,
Speaker 1: and try to pick a few spots that you you know,
Speaker 1: might make sense. And I say makes sense because you
Speaker 1: could pick like a restaurant across the street here and
Speaker 1: be like, oh, this is perfect. You know, um, signal
Speaker 1: that person or hit that person up, say let's meet
Speaker 1: here at this time, and then you get there and
Speaker 1: they're not open for another two hours. So you're standing
Speaker 1: outside of this place in broad day, like, you know,
Speaker 1: waiting for this person, and then they're thinking it's at
Speaker 1: that time, so they show up. So now you have
Speaker 1: an intelligence officer and a possible asset you know, um
Speaker 1: in the same place at the same time. And if
Speaker 1: security you know forces are around or police or an
Speaker 1: intelligence agency, well, now you just put two people together
Speaker 1: that become of interest. So now you're really going to
Speaker 1: be under observation. So there's that. So it was hours
Speaker 1: and hours of walking around this city, um, you know,
Speaker 1: getting to know the city and getting to know different
Speaker 1: places UH. And also I also talk about in the
Speaker 1: first one I think is the first one might have
Speaker 1: been the second part where there are certain don't when
Speaker 1: it comes to UH meetings, Like you don't want to
Speaker 1: have a meeting where number one, where there's a ton
Speaker 1: of cameras around, although in some cities, especially now, that's
Speaker 1: hard to do. That's hard to avoid, I should say. Um,
Speaker 1: you also don't want to have meetings UH in around
Speaker 1: schools because I'm a forty four year old guy and
Speaker 1: if I'm standing around at school, that's going to cause
Speaker 1: an issue. UM. Churches you try to avoid too, because
Speaker 1: you know, plays the worship people people know each other.
Speaker 1: So if you're sitting in the parking lot waiting for
Speaker 1: a car pickup, you know, to pick up your an
Speaker 1: asset or a possible asset, and people are like, that's
Speaker 1: who's that guy. I don't recognize him, you know from church,
Speaker 1: somebody can call the cops. You also don't want to
Speaker 1: have it near police station or a military base or
Speaker 1: somewhere where there's going to be heightened security, banks, things
Speaker 1: like that. So you want to eliminate all those those
Speaker 1: types of areas. UM. So I talked about that a
Speaker 1: little bit, and uh, once I had done all that,
Speaker 1: you know, I get back to my room. Okay, I've
Speaker 1: got some possible areas. I you know, um contact the
Speaker 1: person and say, hey, does this work for you? Or
Speaker 1: I'll give them a couple of choices. They can come
Speaker 1: back and say, hey, why don't we try this spot?
Speaker 1: Or the better o thing is I pick and say
Speaker 1: this is where we're going to meet at this time.
Speaker 1: You want to try to avoid as much as possible
Speaker 1: letting them control the meeting, the situation because if for
Speaker 1: some reason, you know there, um they're a false uh
Speaker 1: you know, they're not really going to work through. They're
Speaker 1: trying to catch you and they're working for the bad
Speaker 1: guys or the opposition. Well now you just let them
Speaker 1: tell you where to show up so that they can have,
Speaker 1: you know, roll you up. So it's um that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. So we're streaming live on Facebook, on YouTube,
Speaker 1: on twitch. Um. Third part of this is going to
Speaker 1: be out when are you're thinking, I'm in the middle
Speaker 1: of writing it now, so I would say by mid
Speaker 1: next week. Alright, So yeah, check that out from James
Speaker 1: Powell on soft rep dot com. If you're watching the
Speaker 1: live stream, you'll see that the title of this is
Speaker 1: UM the winner Olympics UH in South Korea. And before
Speaker 1: we go into that, I just want to put an
Speaker 1: apology out there. The last time I was year, I
Speaker 1: put out that if anybody needs you know, because I
Speaker 1: do recruiting for naval intelligence, you can contact me and
Speaker 1: I'll do what I can. UM. I know there are
Speaker 1: people who did yeah, and there are some who I
Speaker 1: I don't know whether I responded or not. So if
Speaker 1: I didn't, please hit me up again, and I will
Speaker 1: be sure that I do. It's a separate account, and
Speaker 1: I don't always get alerts for that account, so I
Speaker 1: don't always know. I have to consciously going and check it.
Speaker 1: So I apologize in advance if I didn't reply, or
Speaker 1: if I said, hey, I'll get back to you with
Speaker 1: this and I didn't. Just hit me up again and
Speaker 1: remind me. Where is the best place to reach you? UM?
Speaker 1: Should they send it to me? Send it to you,
Speaker 1: and then to send it to soft rep dot radio
Speaker 1: at soft rep dot com. We'll take any uh. Oh
Speaker 1: bread is asking where the twitch link is? You know it,
Speaker 1: I'll send it right over. It's just yes, Twitch dot
Speaker 1: tv slash soft rep radio. I actually don't know a
Speaker 1: whole lot about Twitch yet. UM. I was just gonna
Speaker 1: ask you what is twit? Yeah? Twitch, there seems to
Speaker 1: be a lot of gamers on there and stuff, but
Speaker 1: trying to reach like new audiences. So if you're on there,
Speaker 1: I still got to figure out more like I don't
Speaker 1: know how to save our live videos. I would like
Speaker 1: to figure out how to do that. Um on YouTube.
Speaker 1: It's automatically save on Facebook, it is. But as I said,
Speaker 1: we'll get into the South Korea stuff. Another really quick
Speaker 1: piece of um news I guess to mention though, and
Speaker 1: it's up on software dot com and elsewhere. Um. Eric
Speaker 1: Wrighton's the Missouri governor. Uh, former Navy seal now has
Speaker 1: allegations of an affair and more seriously, blackmail over a
Speaker 1: nude picture. I don't know if you saw that. I
Speaker 1: glanced at something about it on the train. UM, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it's I mean, I think as people step into the
Speaker 1: spotlight of politics or you know, um whatever it is, Hollywood,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, you better make sure that either a
Speaker 1: you're squeaky clean or B that you're ready to step
Speaker 1: out in front of this stuff. You like, you need
Speaker 1: to really sit down with your people and be like, listen,
Speaker 1: this is what I did when I was eighteen, or
Speaker 1: this is what I did last week. How are we
Speaker 1: gonna get out in front of this stuff before it
Speaker 1: comes out? Because we see with the whole um, what
Speaker 1: does it mean to hashtag? It's just exploding, So it's
Speaker 1: better to get out in front of it. It's weird though,
Speaker 1: because it's changed a little bit with Donald Trump. I mean,
Speaker 1: people when they saw that the infamous Billy Bush video
Speaker 1: come out, they were like, this is gonna sink him,
Speaker 1: and it did not. The biggest victim in that thing,
Speaker 1: I think was Billy Bush. She didn't do anything. I
Speaker 1: don't know how he lost his job, Like, I don't
Speaker 1: know what he was supposed to do. He laughed at
Speaker 1: the president making a certain remark, and uh, he went
Speaker 1: about his day, you know, like I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: kind of weird that they would expect him to be like,
Speaker 1: you know, not Mr President at the time, but Mr Trump,
Speaker 1: that's an inappropriate language exactly. I don't think anyone is
Speaker 1: gonna say that. So, yeah, Billy Bush, she was definitely
Speaker 1: a victim in that. But yeah, I think it's a
Speaker 1: changing time because you do have major outrage on on
Speaker 1: both sides. You have like this huge anti politically correct movement,
Speaker 1: I would say, on the and then you have a
Speaker 1: incredibly politically correct movement on the left. And one of
Speaker 1: the big problems with the me too thing, I think
Speaker 1: is that everything falls into one under one category. So
Speaker 1: like this guy once grabbed some woman's ass falls under
Speaker 1: the same category as like a guy who raped and
Speaker 1: sexually assaulted someone. There's got to be a variation between
Speaker 1: these and I agree with that. Um first and foremost,
Speaker 1: I agree that none of that stuff is okay because
Speaker 1: I have two daughters, you know, and they know, you know,
Speaker 1: and anybody that knows me knows that, Um, you look
Speaker 1: at my daughter wrong and I'm whipping somebody's ass. But
Speaker 1: you told the story yeah earlier. So um, as a
Speaker 1: father that's you know, and a husband, that stuff speaks,
Speaker 1: you know, very dearly. Man, I don't think any of
Speaker 1: it's okay. But I agree, like you said, to put
Speaker 1: everything in one category, especially if that category holds the
Speaker 1: same punishment. Then we're starting down a really slip reslope
Speaker 1: because um, I think I might have been talking to
Speaker 1: Jack about it. You can think back as a male
Speaker 1: especially and I'm sure there's some females you can think
Speaker 1: back and be like that probably could have counted as sexual.
Speaker 1: So anything you could have said to somebody, hey, you
Speaker 1: look really nice today, and if they felt like, you know,
Speaker 1: are you saying that because you know my dress is
Speaker 1: low cut? Or you're saying but you know, if they
Speaker 1: felt uncomfortable, well now they can say that you know you. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it would count as assault, but
Speaker 1: you know, harassment or something like that. And so, you know,
Speaker 1: I think it's a slipperslap. Do I think it needs
Speaker 1: to stop, like oh we just stop talking about it
Speaker 1: and stop dealing. No, absolutely not. It should be an
Speaker 1: ongoing thing. Yeah. Uh. Actually a few months back, Rick
Speaker 1: Onnger was in here doing the Power of Thought, um,
Speaker 1: former CEO of Marvel, and he was saying like, look,
Speaker 1: there is a difference between uh, some of the bad
Speaker 1: stuff we've heard. And then also he was saying like
Speaker 1: former President Bush, you know, saying some maybe lewd comment
Speaker 1: He's like with his wife there, did you really feel
Speaker 1: threatened by this man in a wheelchair? You know? So
Speaker 1: it's it's an interesting thing, um, But getting into the
Speaker 1: gist of what we did want to talk about, and
Speaker 1: what I know you wanted to talk about. We are
Speaker 1: one month away from the Winter Olympics being held in
Speaker 1: pyeng Chang, South Korea. Uh. And related to that, North
Speaker 1: Korea has agreed to send a delegation there to hold
Speaker 1: talks um in Soul to ease military tensions. UM. So
Speaker 1: I just wanted to hear your take on all of this,
Speaker 1: on on you know, the tension between North Korea and
Speaker 1: the US, North Korea and South Korea. UM, it's a
Speaker 1: really strange time to be holding the Winter Olympics anywhere
Speaker 1: in Korea. Absolutely, yeah, it is. UM. I think that
Speaker 1: it's a good thing that they're holding it there. It's
Speaker 1: always a good thing for any country when you know
Speaker 1: you're you're chosen to hold the Olympics. It's supposed to
Speaker 1: bring people together, the world together. So I think it's
Speaker 1: a good thing, and I think it's being held for me.
Speaker 1: It's at the right time because with all of this tension,
Speaker 1: this is an opportunity, as we see, maybe ease that
Speaker 1: a little bit. Having said that, from when I first
Speaker 1: started hearing about this and then research it a little
Speaker 1: bit and looked it up, my overarching question, which I
Speaker 1: still gonna answered, is what is North Korea giving up
Speaker 1: by doing this? You know, what are they you know,
Speaker 1: if we sit across the table from one another on
Speaker 1: South Korea and North Korea. South Korea, I think it's
Speaker 1: already um agreed to suspend their push back their military
Speaker 1: exercises with the US. I think it's till April or
Speaker 1: something like that. Um, that sort of thing. And what
Speaker 1: is North Korea really giving up? They've already said before
Speaker 1: they even sat down, we are not going to stop
Speaker 1: pursuing our nuclear arsenal. We're just not. UM. So that's
Speaker 1: off the table. They didn't want to talk about that.
Speaker 1: UM So it seems to me they're gaining more than
Speaker 1: they're getting. But that doesn't mean that it shouldn't the
Speaker 1: talk shouldn't be held. Uh. I think that South Korean president,
Speaker 1: he's from the reports that I've seen, people are gonna
Speaker 1: start saying that he's cow towing to North Korea, which is,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a dangerous thing. He did run on
Speaker 1: the platform that I am. You know, I'm going to
Speaker 1: push for talks to North Korea. Agree, he did what
Speaker 1: he said he was gonna do. But now he's got
Speaker 1: to be careful about what is South Korea and the
Speaker 1: United States getting out of this. I don't even know
Speaker 1: if maybe you know, I don't even know if the
Speaker 1: US is gonna have anybody at these talks, or has
Speaker 1: anybody at these talks. Maybe one of the listeners knows,
Speaker 1: But um, I think that as an from the intelligent
Speaker 1: side of the house, we would want to know going in,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure we would sit down with our South
Speaker 1: and half sat down on the South Korean counterparts and
Speaker 1: found out what they have on their agenda, what they're
Speaker 1: talking points are, and then does anyone know what North
Speaker 1: Korea's talking points are gonna be? People would think, oh,
Speaker 1: it's just a list, you know, it's just a piece
Speaker 1: of paper. But if you can you know ahead of
Speaker 1: time what your opposition is going to want to talk about,
Speaker 1: you can better maneuver yourself into a position of power.
Speaker 1: So that's a pretty important thing. So it'll be interest
Speaker 1: see what comes to this. Yeah, when you're talking about, um,
Speaker 1: the US being there and not being there. From what
Speaker 1: I was like, I still remember back with the Bush
Speaker 1: administration and you'd hear, you know, we do not negotiate
Speaker 1: with terrorists. Um. I remember even some pushback with getting
Speaker 1: the journalists back, um, which I know it was Ling
Speaker 1: with it, Lisa Ling or laure Ling. I know their sisters,
Speaker 1: sister Laura was the sister. Yeah. And I remember Bill
Speaker 1: Clinton having to take photos with Kim John Ill at
Speaker 1: the time, or King Kim Jong Un. I wasn't Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it was ill. Um. I think there's prior
Speaker 1: to Ill passing. And I remember that was highly controversial thing,
Speaker 1: you know, because it puts them in a position of
Speaker 1: power to take these pictures with a former president. Um.
Speaker 1: And it is weird they demand interesting things to take
Speaker 1: a picture with a former president. You know, what, what
Speaker 1: exactly do you get out of that? Um? You know,
Speaker 1: it's just much like what do you get out of
Speaker 1: bringing Dennis Rodman over there? Um? So I just always
Speaker 1: think of that narrative of we don't negotiate with purished,
Speaker 1: and like, would the US really want to sit down
Speaker 1: at the table with this guy's threatening to use nuclear weapons?
Speaker 1: I think I think at the end of the day
Speaker 1: that it would be not a waste of time, but
Speaker 1: I think it would go right just back to square
Speaker 1: one or maybe you know, square half. We might get
Speaker 1: a little something out of it, but I think North Korea,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, this is going to
Speaker 1: be a hey, we tried kind of thing. We're just
Speaker 1: gonna go back to what we're doing. And I know
Speaker 1: that a lot of people are freaking out because uh,
Speaker 1: President Trump said, you know, he took credit for he
Speaker 1: said this is because of me. That um, you know,
Speaker 1: these talks are happening, and it is it is because
Speaker 1: of him. Do I agree with how we got to
Speaker 1: this point? No, I mean say whatever you want. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm a patriot on this and that you know, um,
Speaker 1: we need to be tough with them, and you know
Speaker 1: that's great, that's all well and good, But at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, what does it actually do. I mean,
Speaker 1: there it's like when my kids were a little and
Speaker 1: they would throw a tantrum and you go to pick
Speaker 1: them up and they stiffen up. You know, they're like,
Speaker 1: you know, they're like deadweight. That's exactly what North Korea
Speaker 1: is done. They listen, they see the tweets. They they
Speaker 1: just in trench themselves even further, not saying that we
Speaker 1: shouldn't like we should talk to him with kid gloves
Speaker 1: or he shouldn't be like that. Don't be no not
Speaker 1: at all. But that'll only go so far. You know,
Speaker 1: it's got to be in addition to our intelligence work. Diplomacy.
Speaker 1: Diplomacy is to me, is is going to be the
Speaker 1: most important piece of this puzzle. Well, the only talks
Speaker 1: that we've seen really is you know, the tweets Trump
Speaker 1: and then and then of course Won calling President Trump
Speaker 1: a dotard, which had people googling, what is Yeah that
Speaker 1: it's it's a lot of name calling back and forth.
Speaker 1: There's you know, it's it's it's very strange that it is.
Speaker 1: It really is. It's it's I think now that that
Speaker 1: you know, Korea or North Korea side, the Twitter is
Speaker 1: going to be the thing now, I think, and um,
Speaker 1: it will be Twitter diplomacy. And but I believe that
Speaker 1: the diplomacy period that is the key to this whole thing.
Speaker 1: And in diplomacy you can say, hey, we want to
Speaker 1: work with you, but if you get out of hand,
Speaker 1: you're getting smacked, you know that sort of thing. You
Speaker 1: can we can fly b ones over you know, um
Speaker 1: near the d m Z and all. What do you
Speaker 1: want to do those things? That's I don't I personally,
Speaker 1: I mean, who am I? But I don't have a
Speaker 1: problem with that. It shows, Hey, we have the capability,
Speaker 1: but that can't be the only thing we rely on.
Speaker 1: And I think I believe General Maddis said that exact
Speaker 1: same thing. Can't be the only thing that we you know,
Speaker 1: that we rely on. Yeah, well said Um, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at some of the comments here, like I said, like this,
Speaker 1: if you're watching on Facebook, share it, whether you're watching
Speaker 1: on YouTube, twitch, we want to get our visibility up
Speaker 1: on all platforms. And uh, I see right here Mike
Speaker 1: McKie is saying it's great that they're both talking about
Speaker 1: the Winter Games. But I don't seriously think we frust
Speaker 1: the North fully judging by pasted actions. But as a Scotsman,
Speaker 1: which you know we have people watching from all over Um,
Speaker 1: as Scotsman, maybe I'm just unfairly judging. But I can't
Speaker 1: take anyone with a haircut like Kim Jong un, uh
Speaker 1: that he can be trusted. Ever, I agree that we
Speaker 1: can't trust, um fully trust North Korea when it comes
Speaker 1: to this because of you know, past instances. UM. But
Speaker 1: again I think we need at least need to take
Speaker 1: I'm saying we but it's South Korea that's held in
Speaker 1: the talks. We at least need to take these steps.
Speaker 1: That way, we can say at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: we have done everything that we could possibly do as
Speaker 1: far as haircuts concerned. Yes, I get it. However, we've
Speaker 1: seen the other side of that haircut too, and it's orange.
Speaker 1: But so yeah, I mean, yes, we always it's you know,
Speaker 1: trust but verify. You know, you always want to be
Speaker 1: looking over your shoulder when it comes to this stuff.
Speaker 1: I see you that a friend of yours who will
Speaker 1: be a future guest former CIA Shannon Miller, is watching UM.
Speaker 1: Not to my knowledge, we don't have representation in North Korea. Oh,
Speaker 1: so that answered our question. However, it is very common
Speaker 1: for Switzerland's delegation to act as a liaison or a
Speaker 1: mediate UH. In this case, there were five senior officials
Speaker 1: from North Korea and South Korea. As for how the
Speaker 1: talks came about, it appears to have been handled directly
Speaker 1: between the two governments, so that answers that UM getting
Speaker 1: into Pakistan, though, so, Pakistan suspends military and intelligence cooperation
Speaker 1: with the US UM and then related to that on
Speaker 1: January five, the US also suspended an undisclosed amount of
Speaker 1: security aid until his Lamabad takes what they called called
Speaker 1: decisive action against all terrorists groups. UM. With Pakistan's suspending
Speaker 1: military and intelligence cooperation with the US. It's funny as
Speaker 1: out that over to Jack Murphy and he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: not a big loss there, and I'm I'm guessing you echo,
Speaker 1: absolutely not. I mean, I knew it was coming. UM.
Speaker 1: I'm sure most knew that it was coming, especially after
Speaker 1: the the comments by the President, you know, by President
Speaker 1: Trump about UM, their lack of cooperation with US, to
Speaker 1: put it lightly, UM, and it's true that you know,
Speaker 1: it's if you put two and two together with things
Speaker 1: that have happened in Afghanistan and Pakistan in that region,
Speaker 1: you could, you know, it could be argued that hey, Pakistan,
Speaker 1: you're not pulling your weight, or you purposely turned your
Speaker 1: back on this, or you're facilitating this. UM. So as
Speaker 1: of yesterday when I was looking all this stuff up
Speaker 1: and you know, making phone calls and all that, it
Speaker 1: may have changed by this morning. But the US Embassy
Speaker 1: UM or the State Department is saying that they got
Speaker 1: no formal UH message saying that Pakistan was suspending their
Speaker 1: military and intelligence UH cooperation. Apparently it was part of
Speaker 1: a speech or it was said in at a summit
Speaker 1: that happened a few days ago or a week or
Speaker 1: so or whatever it was um and but there was
Speaker 1: no confirmation officially from the U State Department as of yesterday.
Speaker 1: Whether that's changed or not, I don't know. But again
Speaker 1: I knew it was coming in. As Jack said, I
Speaker 1: don't think it's really that big a loss. And I
Speaker 1: think it's been coming ever since the you know, the
Speaker 1: capturing and killing about Samad bin Wad. And I think
Speaker 1: when we learned that Pakistan did not help us in
Speaker 1: any way with that intelligence that was that was a
Speaker 1: big wake up call and and a huge just alarm
Speaker 1: for the American people. Is this an ally Yeah. I
Speaker 1: mean we pour a lot of money and poured a
Speaker 1: lot of money into Pakistan, and it was kind of
Speaker 1: like a you know, your security system. It's like, hey, uh,
Speaker 1: security company, here's all my money up front for you
Speaker 1: to do your job. And then uh, you know, the
Speaker 1: security company says thank you, take some money, turns off
Speaker 1: the lights and goes home, you know, or lets the
Speaker 1: burglars in, not necessarily saying hey, burglars, you can go in,
Speaker 1: but turns their back on it. So at some point
Speaker 1: you have to say you're not getting my money, you're
Speaker 1: not getting my help until you do your job. So
Speaker 1: you know, I knew it was coming. I don't I
Speaker 1: personally don't believe it at last, um, because we do
Speaker 1: need allies in that region, and you know, whether it's
Speaker 1: you know, fair weather allies or not, we need them,
Speaker 1: you know, and uh India there. You know, there's a
Speaker 1: tension between Pakistan and India, so we need to have
Speaker 1: our fingers and both pies there, um, you know, in
Speaker 1: order to keep that sort of piece. Because they just
Speaker 1: had an incident a week about a week and a
Speaker 1: half or so ago where Indian forces crossed the the
Speaker 1: controlled area and why it's blanking on me, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm sure someone can, um can tell me the disputed
Speaker 1: area and killed a bunch of or a few Pakistani
Speaker 1: troops in retaliation for what they say was a cross
Speaker 1: a cross border attack. So not that things are necessarily
Speaker 1: heating up there, because they've always been you know, hot
Speaker 1: over there, but we need to have a presence, whether
Speaker 1: it's political or whatever, um in that area just to
Speaker 1: keep somebody from pressing a button and killing everybody. So
Speaker 1: you know what I'd like to hear you get into
Speaker 1: you know why you think we do need a presence,
Speaker 1: just from your experience, because there's always people with the
Speaker 1: less interventionist foreign policy, and it's always an argument made
Speaker 1: of why do we need bases everywhere? Why why do
Speaker 1: we need a presence on every end of the globe? Um?
Speaker 1: What would you say? So? I think we need to
Speaker 1: look at the two ends of the spectrum there. Where
Speaker 1: there's one end there's nothing we have no present, no military,
Speaker 1: no diplomatic, no anything. The other is we are you know,
Speaker 1: we have bases everywhere in the region and um embassies
Speaker 1: everywhere in that region. And I think when I say presents,
Speaker 1: I mean at the very least, we should have an
Speaker 1: intelligence presence there. Obviously that's not something that's going to
Speaker 1: be advertised, but we need to know what's going on.
Speaker 1: We can't have blind spots in the world. We we can't.
Speaker 1: No country you know worth their salt will want blind spots.
Speaker 1: So we need to have an intelligence presence, even if
Speaker 1: we don't have an embassy there, which I think should
Speaker 1: go hand in hand with that intelligence presence. So if
Speaker 1: we have an intelligence presence and a diplomatic presence there,
Speaker 1: that would be enough icing on the cake would be
Speaker 1: basis in the area, um in that region, just in
Speaker 1: case something happens, you know, and we need to respond militarily.
Speaker 1: We're not then having to fly all the way from
Speaker 1: Germany or from you know, somewhere else, you know, across
Speaker 1: the globe. But in that area we're talking Afghanistan, you know,
Speaker 1: that sort of you know, that sort of region where
Speaker 1: we've been there forever and we see the results. We're
Speaker 1: not seeing the results, so, you know, I think the
Speaker 1: very least intelligence, a diplomatic presence, whether that's embassy, consulate,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, and go from there. Are you someone
Speaker 1: who believes that we should have military bases throughout the globe.
Speaker 1: I'm not just talking about in the Middle East. I
Speaker 1: think that we have bases in regions that can cover
Speaker 1: other regions. Now, if it's unrealistic, you know, to fly
Speaker 1: troops or it's it's not economical to fly troops from
Speaker 1: wherever we have a base closest to that region to
Speaker 1: wherever the hotspot is, then maybe we want to think
Speaker 1: about it. But then there's a whole host of other
Speaker 1: things that go and I'm not again, I'm not at
Speaker 1: the you know, fifty thousand foot level where I can
Speaker 1: say this is what goes into it. But again I
Speaker 1: think we need if we don't have a diplomatic presence, um,
Speaker 1: it'll be hard to establish a base there without some
Speaker 1: sort of a conflict that involves us. Like I don't
Speaker 1: think we could just you know, put UM troops in
Speaker 1: or a basin. I don't know, let's say South Africa
Speaker 1: for instance. For no, there's no reason to you know,
Speaker 1: right now. So I don't believe we need them all
Speaker 1: over the world until we need them all over the world. Interesting, man,
Speaker 1: I actually wanted to get your take on something completely unrelated,
Speaker 1: the whole Oprah debacle. What's your what are your feelings? Mr? Power?
Speaker 1: I just said to somebody the other day, Um, if
Speaker 1: she runs and says you know you're you get a
Speaker 1: million dollars, you get a million dollars. And I'm one
Speaker 1: of those used and fine, but that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: And um so on the serious part of it, if
Speaker 1: she ran in, there's no way I'm booting. Do you
Speaker 1: think it's in it? It's like a it's setting a
Speaker 1: crazy precedent now that we're having you know, people who
Speaker 1: do not have prior experience you know, it used to
Speaker 1: be you have to be a governor and then you
Speaker 1: become the president. Now it is, especially if you go
Speaker 1: from a Trump presidency to open, win free presidency. I
Speaker 1: think all of that is out the window. And I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: if I want someone who's able to navigate, if I can,
Speaker 1: it's it's scary when if I know who you are
Speaker 1: from TV, you should you know, can run for You're
Speaker 1: now qualified to run for president. That's just crazy, I
Speaker 1: think though. First of all, I don't believe she would
Speaker 1: win if if she did run. But someone said it
Speaker 1: on the radio this morning that if her running can
Speaker 1: bring high you know, can highlight issues that the Democratic
Speaker 1: you know that the Democrats want highlighted, Well that's then
Speaker 1: that works for them even if she doesn't win. You know, Um,
Speaker 1: I detest politics period, so it doesn't matter to me.
Speaker 1: But um, I don't think she would win, and I
Speaker 1: most certainly would not vote for her. Yeah. Interesting one.
Speaker 1: I just know that people have been going, um, you know,
Speaker 1: back and forth on Twitter about this whole thing, so
Speaker 1: I wanted to hear your takes. Well something else too
Speaker 1: with that is, uh, I don't I didn't listen to
Speaker 1: her whole speech the other night. Yeah, I I didn't.
Speaker 1: I just saw what somebody put on what was on
Speaker 1: the news. Um. But it was interesting that literally right
Speaker 1: after she made that speech, there were pictures of her
Speaker 1: popping up with Harvey Weins from last year. If if,
Speaker 1: if the time stamp on, these things are are true.
Speaker 1: So again, we just talked in the beginning about you know,
Speaker 1: um uh yeah, right, and you know that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: If you know that you're gonna put yourself out there
Speaker 1: by making these speeches or running for president, whatever you're
Speaker 1: gonna do, just make sure you check your Twitter history,
Speaker 1: your Facebook, all of that, because somebody's gonna pull something
Speaker 1: up to try to you know, to counter what you're
Speaker 1: doing or saying. Um, Johnny Riyal watching on YouTube. Well,
Speaker 1: Pakistan government prevent us from going through Pakistan to Afghanistan.
Speaker 1: I am not the expert on that, but uh no,
Speaker 1: I don't belief. So they've kept despite what the headlines
Speaker 1: say about the suspending the military and intelligence cooperation if
Speaker 1: that becomes official, if it is official, from what I understand,
Speaker 1: they've kept open the air lines of communication and the
Speaker 1: UM I believe it's land lines of communicaties l lock
Speaker 1: and a lock something like that, UM or g lock
Speaker 1: ground lines communication, So that's supply routes. If I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're logistics people that can talk better to
Speaker 1: it than me. But those things have remained open. There's
Speaker 1: there was no talk of those clothings, so I think
Speaker 1: that's the hint that no, they wouldn't prevent us from
Speaker 1: doing whatever we have to do in Afghanistan. Good question
Speaker 1: from Johnny, um if you have any others shoot them
Speaker 1: through UM So, I guess other than that piece that
Speaker 1: you're that you were saying the third um, the third
Speaker 1: piece in the series. Do you have anything else that
Speaker 1: you're planning on writing for the site be on the
Speaker 1: lookout for they're Uh. There was one piece that was
Speaker 1: purple Dragon. I don't know if anybody out there can
Speaker 1: talk about. I'm sure to Jack and but it was
Speaker 1: something I stumbled across. It was the predecessor, if I'm
Speaker 1: remembering correctly, of red teaming that we do today. You know, hey,
Speaker 1: we have a software program, or we have a um uh,
Speaker 1: you know, a military exercise we want to do. These
Speaker 1: are the people who would come in as the bad
Speaker 1: guys or the devil's advocate and say hey, you know
Speaker 1: what about this? Or if we do this, how are
Speaker 1: we going to react? Or if they do this, how
Speaker 1: we're gonna react? So Purple Dragon of um, if i
Speaker 1: I'm sure that this, there's more detail to it which
Speaker 1: I'll find out than this was the predecessor of that
Speaker 1: during the Vietnam War. So I'm gonna be researching that
Speaker 1: and doing some trying to do some writing on that.
Speaker 1: Then while I'm at a shot show and I hope
Speaker 1: to see some of you guys out there, um in Vegas,
Speaker 1: I'll be doing a lot of writing out there too,
Speaker 1: so nice. Yeah, is that like your time away from
Speaker 1: the family to be able to like focus on yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and to hear that in Vegas like I don't drink
Speaker 1: and if I gambled, I my wife would probably be like,
Speaker 1: you might as well stay out there because he just
Speaker 1: lost all our money. So um, that will be my
Speaker 1: time to relax a little bit and be able to
Speaker 1: actually sit in front of the keyboard and you know,
Speaker 1: get some stuff out. Um. And it's funny because it
Speaker 1: brings up a funny little story. Last year at Shot
Speaker 1: there's a right you know, the press room. So I'm
Speaker 1: in the press room and Jack's sitting on one side
Speaker 1: of me, and as I was sitting on the other
Speaker 1: and I'm typing, and I just happened to glance up
Speaker 1: and there's a guy and I think I might have
Speaker 1: put it on Facebook one of them, or might might
Speaker 1: have gone on Twitter. Um, there's a guy, older, gentleman.
Speaker 1: He had his back to me on his computer. Well,
Speaker 1: when I looked up, this guy was surfing um bodybuilder
Speaker 1: females and like in various states of undressed. And I
Speaker 1: am dying because this guy is just wide open, not
Speaker 1: even trying to hide it. He's just clicking along. So
Speaker 1: I snapped a little picture of it, and U. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so maybe i'll wear that. Go what's that? I think
Speaker 1: it went on Twitter. I'm not sure, but maybe I'll
Speaker 1: do that this year. I don't know, you'll see. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was so for for our West Coast soft preparators
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Speaker 1: yeah B and and if the auditions there, maybe he'll
Speaker 1: be wearing his Lucual libraing masks. I said, I don't
Speaker 1: know he's uh, I'm actually I was surprised he even
Speaker 1: came in studio and did the podcast because he's pretty
Speaker 1: secretive about his identity, and uh, that was my I
Speaker 1: guess compromise to him was like put on the mask. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: As you're wrapping things up here, I see a question
Speaker 1: from Michael wangs Guard. Um, do you think North Korea
Speaker 1: would look to do something under the cover of the Olympics? Uh,
Speaker 1: loosely based example Russia and Ukraine with CRIMEA. Uh again, Um,
Speaker 1: I'm not the expert on that, but I yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Shannon help me out here. UM. So I don't believe
Speaker 1: that if we're talking the Russia CRIMEA thing on that scale,
Speaker 1: I don't believe. So no, Um, because of you know,
Speaker 1: you're seeing the headlines that say, you know, we're training
Speaker 1: our troops, our army troops now to fight in tunnels,
Speaker 1: all that stuff. So they know we're making the preparations
Speaker 1: we've already we've been making them, but they know now
Speaker 1: we're it's that much more heightened. So I don't see that.
Speaker 1: Do I see them trying to take advantage from an
Speaker 1: intelligence standpoint? Absolutely? I mean, now you're going to have, Um,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have delegations from all over the world. So
Speaker 1: now you know, say, you know, uh, little Jane who's
Speaker 1: a gymnast, her dad is a diplomat or something like that,
Speaker 1: he's of interest. Let's try to get somebody next to Jane,
Speaker 1: that sort of thing. So any any intelligence, as you're
Speaker 1: worth its salt, is going to try to take advantage
Speaker 1: of that. So that's that on that level, Yes, I
Speaker 1: believe so militarily, I don't think so. I don't even
Speaker 1: know if unless in the next you know, month or so,
Speaker 1: somebody says something foolish. I don't even think we're gonna
Speaker 1: see a missile launched. I think that was the big
Speaker 1: scare or concern was that they're going to you know,
Speaker 1: test these missiles during the Olympics. It will you know,
Speaker 1: heighten everything and all that stuff. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: believe we'll see that. Um unless one side or the
Speaker 1: other does something or says something foolish, then they'll be like,
Speaker 1: you know what, then fine, we'll just launch a missile,
Speaker 1: you know. So. Um. I see another question here on YouTube.
Speaker 1: Do you think the c i A focuses more on
Speaker 1: your background or more on current capability more on well,
Speaker 1: I guess I can't really ask whoever, but more on
Speaker 1: my backgrounds or current capability. They really only care about
Speaker 1: your background for two reasons as far as in my experience.
Speaker 1: One is when you're initially being hired or vetted to
Speaker 1: be hired, they care about it, you know, because they
Speaker 1: want to know that you're not UM, you're not being
Speaker 1: directed against the agency. And two they care about it
Speaker 1: because your background will determine can determine there helps determine
Speaker 1: what job you go into where they send you UM,
Speaker 1: and your current capabilities. You're always training, They're always sending
Speaker 1: you to a language school or um, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: just different training. And you will also do that on
Speaker 1: your own, so your current capabilities will enhance your background,
Speaker 1: so they'll use those things. UM. From a c I.
Speaker 1: From a counterintelligence standpoint, yes, they care about your background
Speaker 1: throughout your career. Absolutely. Your current capabilities not so much
Speaker 1: from a c I standpoint. They really care about your
Speaker 1: current lifestyle. You know. It's like, hey, UM, has this
Speaker 1: guy you know as James, come into a ton of
Speaker 1: money all of a sudden when we're paying him this
Speaker 1: much and now he's you know, got rolling with a
Speaker 1: million dollars in the bank. Where to come from? That
Speaker 1: sort of thing. But um, hopefully that answers that question absolutely.
Speaker 1: I see that Shannon jumped in here again, UM, I
Speaker 1: think this is referring earlier. If they did, it would
Speaker 1: be quietly done. Do I think they'll send an intelligence
Speaker 1: officers without a doubt? Okay, so this is about the Olympics, UM,
Speaker 1: I guarantee some of their athletes and or family members
Speaker 1: are involved in intelligence and will be there perfect to
Speaker 1: gather intel under cover of the games. I would be most,
Speaker 1: I would because I would be most countries are doing
Speaker 1: the same. So I guess you're saying I think most counties. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I bet most just doing the same. Um g K
Speaker 1: s Daily writes, the US deployed three B two spirits
Speaker 1: to Guam the other day. I wonder if the DPRK
Speaker 1: will have a response from that. Again, have the preface
Speaker 1: that I am not the expert, but I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I think you know it's funny. I do appreciate that
Speaker 1: you guys always do that. We were talking about that
Speaker 1: last episode with Jack, because if you look on mainstream media,
Speaker 1: people claim to be an expert on pretty much everything.
Speaker 1: So I do love the fact that soft preparators like
Speaker 1: all kind of stay in their land of what they
Speaker 1: do and they're only going to speak on what they
Speaker 1: know absolutely, And I can give my opinion on anything,
Speaker 1: but did you want to the last episode, like, if
Speaker 1: you want to hear me, I will that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: will definitely give my opinion, but don't take it as
Speaker 1: gospel unless it's something that I experienced myself. Other than that,
Speaker 1: you know, I can't say that's why I keep calling
Speaker 1: on Shannon, which I'm probably gonna over money now, um,
Speaker 1: you know, because that wasn't my bail wick, that wasn't
Speaker 1: my thing. So uh but politics or diplomacy is politics
Speaker 1: is diplomacy is politics. It's throughout the world. It's culturally
Speaker 1: it's different, but overall it's pretty much the same. So
Speaker 1: if you've done it in one spot, you've done it
Speaker 1: in a million. Well speaking which Shannon will be a
Speaker 1: future guest. Always good having you on man, actually taking
Speaker 1: the trip in studio, always like seeing you. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a Power of Thought right after this
Speaker 1: with legendary recording engineer John King. Uh So, if you're
Speaker 1: around and you're watching this, you're in the office or something.
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Speaker 1: legendary owner of Chun King's Studios. Uh. That about does
Speaker 1: it for this week. Thanks to all of you tuned in,
Speaker 1: like it, share it. Uh. Next episode, Jack Murphy should
Speaker 1: be back here. And Andrew Wilcow the Great Andrew will
Speaker 1: callby in studio because he's got a TV show coming
Speaker 1: up on CRTV Conservative Review. Um. I'm excited, you know,
Speaker 1: to have him in here. I've I've worked with Andrew
Speaker 1: for many years and uh, someone's calling me very unprofessional
Speaker 1: me um, and yeah, this will be the first time
Speaker 1: he's been on in a long time. He was on
Speaker 1: via Skype and I haven't worked with Andrew since May.
Speaker 1: I've seen him. But it's it's weird going this long,
Speaker 1: you know, without working in radio. It's like I'm stuck
Speaker 1: in a room with three guys. It was me, Mike Bins,
Speaker 1: and Andrew all at all times. So yeah, it's it's awesome,
Speaker 1: but at the same time, like, even though I love
Speaker 1: those guys, the smallest thing will get your nerves it's
Speaker 1: almost like a marriage. It's not like a typical job
Speaker 1: where you see dozens of people where you're working by,
Speaker 1: you know, with yourself, by yourself at home. You're just
Speaker 1: working with these two guys every day. And uh yeah,
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm excited of Andrew back in here, and
Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited of Andrew back on TV. He's a
Speaker 1: great guy who was working at another network and I
Speaker 1: won't mention and you know he's doing big things. So
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Speaker 1: pal eleven two. And unless you're plotting anything else, no,
Speaker 1: I mean, I just appreciate being here, and um, you know,
Speaker 1: given my two cents on things and from here and
Speaker 1: from everybody, I know that the last shot. Uh, people
Speaker 1: would I guess recognize me, although they really didn't know
Speaker 1: what I look like. But um, like I always like
Speaker 1: to say, I'm want one of the few chocolate tips
Speaker 1: in the software cookie. So it's not hard to pick me.
Speaker 1: Probably the only Yeah, Nick, I mean yeah, but he's
Speaker 1: not like a regular yeah, so I'll take that mantle. Um. So,
Speaker 1: So it's nice to actually talk to people face to
Speaker 1: face or even just an email, like when I get
Speaker 1: these emails. Um, whether it's about resumes or whatever it is,
Speaker 1: it's nice to interact with people because, trust me, I'm
Speaker 1: no lofty celebrity. I'm no celebrity at all, so I'm
Speaker 1: easy to get to. So, and the last thing I
Speaker 1: should say is is the last time I saw you
Speaker 1: was Jack Murphy's wedding. Great time had by all. What
Speaker 1: do you think of Jim West's best man speed? Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh. First of all, the fact that he has
Speaker 1: eighteen different variations of Benny's name. Day. I loved it
Speaker 1: because he is so genuine. He is he will as
Speaker 1: my um you know one of my LTI is like, say,
Speaker 1: whip somebody's monkey ass. But he's just a great guy,
Speaker 1: like you could. My wife was an awe talking to him.
Speaker 1: She absolutely loved him. I love him. It was it
Speaker 1: was great. The wedding itself was awesome. I was surprised
Speaker 1: by how nice it was. And I said that Jack,
Speaker 1: because just because of the fact that he got engaged
Speaker 1: uh that summer and then a few months later they
Speaker 1: had a wedding. So I figured this would be a
Speaker 1: really small affair, uh And not that it was big,
Speaker 1: as he was saying, but it was a really nice venue.
Speaker 1: It must have been like a huge, you know deal
Speaker 1: to plan that. I was not expecting something was that
Speaker 1: uh statue. Absolutely was awesome. And you know the people
Speaker 1: that I met, friends of his and everything, they were awesome.
Speaker 1: It was a great, great time. Yeah. It was a
Speaker 1: lot of you know, a lot of guys in the
Speaker 1: community were there. Brandon Webb was there, um the audition
Speaker 1: was in attendance with his lute library mask on uh
Speaker 1: and Joey l photographer and he was there. He signed
Speaker 1: um if you see me pointing, he signed the who
Speaker 1: Dares Wins print? UM. Yeah. So a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of cool guys from absolutely Yeah, And I think
Speaker 1: it was a side of Jack A lot of people
Speaker 1: don't know about. Like my wife still talks about, you know,
Speaker 1: when she came when he came into the you know,
Speaker 1: to come down the aisle and he was with his
Speaker 1: daughter and that was pretty awesome. You know, that was
Speaker 1: that's the side of Jack people don't see. We call
Speaker 1: him j Jonah Jameson. You know, Spider Man's uh cranky
Speaker 1: um boss um. But Jack' that's not Jack. He's he's
Speaker 1: just an awesome guy. And and you know they kind
Speaker 1: of addressed during the wedding. It's funny that this you know,
Speaker 1: more liberal minded journalist, I would say from Italy marries
Speaker 1: this SF you know guy Army Ranger, regardless of what
Speaker 1: people think of the site, I would say, a more
Speaker 1: conservative guy like and the the the cool thing about it, though,
Speaker 1: is how many couples do you meet who go into
Speaker 1: war zones and report on stories and they don't even
Speaker 1: do it together. He goes by yourself. You know, he's
Speaker 1: told me before that there's guys in the media who
Speaker 1: have said, like, oh, could you bring over, could you
Speaker 1: um help me get some like SF guys to come
Speaker 1: out with me and from going new me right or
Speaker 1: you know Kurstin And in his head he's he's told me,
Speaker 1: he's like, you placey like my girlfriend at the time.
Speaker 1: Those they're buyers like Benny is awesome. She is, she's
Speaker 1: a badass, she is she's great and again she's a badass,
Speaker 1: but she is just a sweetheart. She's very genuine. They're
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