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Speaker 1: the last episode and what you're hearing right now. Jason
Speaker 1: Delgado resigned from doing the podcast earlier this week. He's
Speaker 1: working on some other endeavors. I believe he might even
Speaker 1: be doing some stuff at soft Rep TV in the future,
Speaker 1: so he's still part of the family here, but for
Speaker 1: now the podcast duties will be myself and of course,
Speaker 1: after a very long hiatus shooting um the show on
Speaker 1: Nicola Tesla for the Discovery Channel, Jack Murphy will be back.
Speaker 1: And I know he's been greatly missed, not just by
Speaker 1: you guys, but by myself as well. I love having
Speaker 1: him in here. I love hearing his ex tease, so
Speaker 1: in a couple episodes you'll be hearing from him. With that,
Speaker 1: gonna get right into this episode. Really great having another
Speaker 1: in studio guest for the first time Jared Ross, green
Speaker 1: Beret weapons sergeant who currently runs Rockwell Tactical out of
Speaker 1: Central Pennsylvania. Let's get right into it and we are live,
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. Uh Ian Scott O here, I'm in
Speaker 1: studio for the first time with Jared Ross, who's a
Speaker 1: veteran of the army. And were you saying marines or okay,
Speaker 1: you just know a lot of marine Yes, yeah, I
Speaker 1: know a lot of them. So you have your background
Speaker 1: is really as a Green Beret weapons sergeant, but you've
Speaker 1: done a lot more than just that. Um. So the
Speaker 1: first thing actually is we're live here and by the way,
Speaker 1: for those checking out the video, please like it, share it. Um.
Speaker 1: We're gonna cover a lot of great stuff here. But yeah,
Speaker 1: the first thing I think would be getting into your background.
Speaker 1: This is my first time meeting you myself. So okay, UM.
Speaker 1: I grew up in Pennsylvania, Southern Pennsylvania, in Lancaster County.
Speaker 1: I had a pretty normal childhood. I thought my grandpa
Speaker 1: bought me a bb gum when I was five. I
Speaker 1: had a twenty two rife when I was twelve and
Speaker 1: hit all those you know, good earmarks growing up as
Speaker 1: a kid. Um, I always wanted to join the military,
Speaker 1: but I every time I went to go and talk
Speaker 1: to recruiters, honestly, it just didn't feel right. Something I
Speaker 1: always wanted to do, it just didn't feel right. So
Speaker 1: I started doing other jobs and I eventually started working
Speaker 1: for for UPS. And we're talking about like what age
Speaker 1: this is. At this point, I was an old man.
Speaker 1: I was around twenty five and I started working for
Speaker 1: for UPS. Um So working for UPS, UH met my
Speaker 1: future wife and uh I was fast tracking. There's a
Speaker 1: as a manager working for them in Lancaster when uh
Speaker 1: now as an old man at the age of seven
Speaker 1: eleven happened and that same feeling I was telling me, now,
Speaker 1: uncle winn Now, I was telling me, now is the
Speaker 1: time to go in. So I felt as my moral
Speaker 1: obligation as a citizen. They go in list and go
Speaker 1: shoot people in the face, and that's that's what I did.
Speaker 1: I went to the second Airborne and I was only
Speaker 1: there a couple of months before I did my first
Speaker 1: deployment to Afghanistan, and that's where I first experienced working
Speaker 1: around you know, soft guys, and that was had some
Speaker 1: really cool experiences there. Six months after that deployment, I
Speaker 1: was in Iraq again with the eighty second and had
Speaker 1: had tons of fun. And then uh after that, when
Speaker 1: I got back from that deployments, when I tried out
Speaker 1: for and went the selection s F selection, got selected,
Speaker 1: and spent the rest of my activity time, you know
Speaker 1: there in in in special Forces. Did you have that
Speaker 1: dream of being a guy who goes into soft like
Speaker 1: a lot of guys do, or is it just you
Speaker 1: wanted to be in the military. I wanted to I
Speaker 1: wanted to serve, and I've always wanted to be in
Speaker 1: the military UM and that was just the right time
Speaker 1: for me when to go in UM. And I always
Speaker 1: wanted to challenge myself and try a little bit harder.
Speaker 1: I really have a nice I'm spotting my heart for
Speaker 1: for ups because I told my boss I need to
Speaker 1: go in and he told me, you've got four years,
Speaker 1: so we'll hold your job for four years. Go do
Speaker 1: what you need to do. And after being with the
Speaker 1: eighty second for about two and a half years, you know,
Speaker 1: with those diployments that got under my belt, I decided
Speaker 1: to know, I need to try out. I'll kick myself
Speaker 1: if I don't try out. So then after I was selected,
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I guess I gotta do this route.
Speaker 1: So then I, you know, I stayed in for for
Speaker 1: a while and had a lot of fun. I went
Speaker 1: to fifth Group and had a lot of fun there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that sounds like one of those things where it's just
Speaker 1: like you don't want to live with these regrets if
Speaker 1: it's something that you really want to do with your wife.
Speaker 1: So I just right after nine eleven. It was the
Speaker 1: type of thing where, because there's I've heard a lot
Speaker 1: of guys on the show say that that same type
Speaker 1: of thing where it was like, this is my time,
Speaker 1: got to do it. That that that's really what it was.
Speaker 1: I selin and eleven. It took took place on on
Speaker 1: on a Tuesday. Yeah, I got married that following Saturday,
Speaker 1: and then uh, talk to the recruiter of the following week.
Speaker 1: So my wonderful wife, who who was marrying an up
Speaker 1: and coming rising superstar, you know and waking decent money,
Speaker 1: found herself a couple of months later than married to
Speaker 1: you know, private Ross who we had to liberate m R.
Speaker 1: S at the end of the month to make sure
Speaker 1: we we had food. Uh, but that was a good
Speaker 1: time and I'm glad I did it. It was something
Speaker 1: I had to do, and yeah, I had tons of fun.
Speaker 1: So why weapons, Sergeant, Why was that I grew up? Um,
Speaker 1: you know in the gun culture. I started going to
Speaker 1: gun shows when as a kid I always loved weapons.
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania also is really big in that culture. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: that's what we would do, you know, for for fun, Um,
Speaker 1: to go to gun shows and hang out with my
Speaker 1: buddies and and play with weapons. When I actually, after
Speaker 1: I was selected, um, they told me that they wanted
Speaker 1: me to be a Delta than eighting Delta Medics origin,
Speaker 1: so I I knew better. I knew, well, I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's for me, but I you know, I
Speaker 1: tried it, and I made it almost to the completion
Speaker 1: of the Delta course. I I am a sock and medic.
Speaker 1: But then, um, I washed out during the surgery portion
Speaker 1: of that that's uh that school, which at the very
Speaker 1: end I had like three weeks left of the class
Speaker 1: of that course. And uh, then thankfully they saw something
Speaker 1: still redeeming in me and sent me to where I
Speaker 1: wanted to go to begin with, over to the Bravo Committee.
Speaker 1: And thank goodness, because I have had lots of fun. Uh,
Speaker 1: doing that. That's awesome, man, you know, and just growing
Speaker 1: up with guns, it was like you knew that this
Speaker 1: was god be my specialty. Yeah. Absolutely. There was going
Speaker 1: through the the weapons course and there were times when
Speaker 1: the instructors I noticed they were putting out incorrect information
Speaker 1: about some of the specifics of sumable weapons. Is just
Speaker 1: you know, I thought it was funny here. I thought
Speaker 1: I was going to the world's premier small arms school,
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, because it's been around the stuff my
Speaker 1: whole life, I was picking up on some of the
Speaker 1: stuff that wasn't quite accurate, but it was. It was
Speaker 1: a good school, good time. That's cool. Yeah, it's an
Speaker 1: interesting thing because you know, Brandon, who was the CEO
Speaker 1: of the company sniper instructor, he didn't grow up around weapons,
Speaker 1: has talked about that and I think just in the
Speaker 1: military learned that this was something he had a gift
Speaker 1: to do him and I think that's that's what happened.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I guess you do go in and you know,
Speaker 1: this is something I'm skilled at, this is an interest
Speaker 1: of mine, and for other guys, you know, they pick
Speaker 1: up on something new. I guess, which is cool to say, Um,
Speaker 1: you were telling me that you just ended a six
Speaker 1: month deployment in August to Jordan's and we get a
Speaker 1: lot of you know, different backgrounds in here with Afghanistan,
Speaker 1: with the Iraq I don't know a whole lot about Jordan's.
Speaker 1: So I'd like to hear all about that, okay, um,
Speaker 1: give you a little bit more about my background and
Speaker 1: then I'll get into that. Um so I I uh
Speaker 1: was with Fifth Group up until July of two thousand twelve,
Speaker 1: and as soon as I left Fifth immediately joined twenty Group,
Speaker 1: which is one of the National Guard groups. That's who
Speaker 1: I'm still with and I've been able to do some
Speaker 1: some fun stuff with them. And that was with twenty
Speaker 1: Group that I did did this deployment um to Jordan's
Speaker 1: and that was It's a very different deployment compared to
Speaker 1: everything else that I've done in the past, that the
Speaker 1: j Sets and other stuff that that I've done. It was,
Speaker 1: it was interesting and we were there for you know
Speaker 1: a good period of time, six months, got to work
Speaker 1: with a lot of the a lot of the Jordanians
Speaker 1: and in neat, neat people, neat neat place, and very
Speaker 1: I didn't realize how pivotal it was to you know,
Speaker 1: as an ally for us until I was there and
Speaker 1: starting to see some of the stuff there on the ground. Um.
Speaker 1: One of the things that since we were National Guard,
Speaker 1: what we were able to do is we're able to
Speaker 1: free up some of the my brothers and fifth Group,
Speaker 1: allow them to who were there as well, to go
Speaker 1: do a little bit more exciting things. UM. So we were, uh,
Speaker 1: we were picking up one of their old missions. As
Speaker 1: far as training some of some of the locals. UM,
Speaker 1: I don't asked me a question, you as store areas
Speaker 1: there and nah, not not any not in anything really
Speaker 1: that I feel comfortable talking about. Um. As far as
Speaker 1: cool war war stories, is it also because you're still
Speaker 1: active duty, you kind of have to be careful about
Speaker 1: we could talk about Yeah, there's there, there's definitely that too. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Is there is there any stuff in the past from
Speaker 1: combat experience you can get into? Uh sure, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't have to think about that. Well, well we'll
Speaker 1: come back to that. That that question and I'll I'll
Speaker 1: get to that. But what I realized this is how
Speaker 1: important Jordan's at least with that trip, how important Jordan
Speaker 1: is to US UM and keeping the area free and
Speaker 1: keeping that area stabilized. UM. If we pull out, if
Speaker 1: we we lose our relationship with them, then it's it's
Speaker 1: it's uh, the whole place can just spiral out of control. UM.
Speaker 1: King of Duel is a really good uh ally to
Speaker 1: the US. I remember when UM all the stuff was
Speaker 1: coming about out about Kim King Abdual his background. There
Speaker 1: was like a lot of praise in uh, you know,
Speaker 1: just social media field and all that from from probably
Speaker 1: more so people on the right for what he's done
Speaker 1: and his whole background. What do you think of his background? Oh,
Speaker 1: he's he loves soft UM. So he's put a lot
Speaker 1: of money in trying to develop and trying to upgrade
Speaker 1: UM his country's soft element. He's put a lot of
Speaker 1: money and we've supported him in and building up Casotic,
Speaker 1: which is the big training center there where they every
Speaker 1: nation in that area that's reportable that they come in
Speaker 1: there and they train. They also hold the international he's
Speaker 1: supported and had built the International Warrior um uh what
Speaker 1: he called International Warrior Competition annually. And my some of
Speaker 1: the guys from my team and myself were we participated
Speaker 1: in that this year and that was an interesting experience
Speaker 1: being able to represent and to participate and in that
Speaker 1: kind of an environment, it was what exactly is that? Well,
Speaker 1: we really didn't know. We were kind of volunteerled a
Speaker 1: few weeks before it took place that that we wanted
Speaker 1: they wanted team to uh to represent us, so we
Speaker 1: did it. We could prepare for it, but it was
Speaker 1: really a lot more of a a lot more like
Speaker 1: I don't know, American Ninja Warrior with with guns as
Speaker 1: opposed to actually real uh you know, I think a
Speaker 1: real test of soft capabilities. So a lot of countries
Speaker 1: that treated it like a game and stuff. They did
Speaker 1: really well where they were there. China is one of
Speaker 1: the ones that I think that they wanted this year
Speaker 1: and I think that they wanted this year and because
Speaker 1: they treated like a game and cut a lot of
Speaker 1: corners and didn't uh interesting stuff. An example, um so
Speaker 1: one of the uh one of the um problems are
Speaker 1: one of the the stages as you had to send
Speaker 1: in a small man team, go into a multi story building,
Speaker 1: engage all of the shoot targets wearing pro masks and
Speaker 1: there is you know, smoking there, and then rescue a
Speaker 1: body which was a dummy and recover it and pull
Speaker 1: it out so US and other units took it pretty serious.
Speaker 1: We're wearing a real pro masks and we're wearing you know,
Speaker 1: real canisters and going in there. But then you have
Speaker 1: other teams like you know, well like the afore mentioned one, uh,
Speaker 1: going with air soft masks with with canisters with holes
Speaker 1: punched through it so they can breathe through it, you know,
Speaker 1: So they have the appearance of but that they're treating
Speaker 1: it like like a game. Um, And so that was
Speaker 1: interesting to see that kind of that that uh, the
Speaker 1: other they they treated stuff. Um. The biggest compliment I
Speaker 1: think I received that week and some of other guys
Speaker 1: received that week, is we just complete a stage. We retired, um,
Speaker 1: the other guys just complete a stage and we're walking
Speaker 1: past some believe they're Greek Greek special Forces. I. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have a Greek guy staff bill. Um, there's the
Speaker 1: Amphibious Raiders and I have to look at his background
Speaker 1: again because I've mentioned it before, but yeah, there is
Speaker 1: Greeks off of course. But so as we're walking by,
Speaker 1: I kind of nodded and he kind of nodded, and
Speaker 1: then they stopped and the guy came over to me
Speaker 1: and he pointed at me and he said, Q Operations,
Speaker 1: ME operations, China like whatever, you know, just kind of
Speaker 1: national art because they were, you know, not treating it
Speaker 1: for real. In wisconsequence, we're winning. I'm looking at Bill's
Speaker 1: background or Vacillus from our staff, who's a five year
Speaker 1: Greek soft veteran. We definitely check out his articles. But
Speaker 1: he served in thirty five Mountain Raiders Battalion and the
Speaker 1: data Amphibious Raiders Battalion. So that was some said, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they do have their soft background, which is which is
Speaker 1: cool to see even though they're not necessarily combat veterans
Speaker 1: a lot of the time because not a lot happening
Speaker 1: in Greece and in terms of that at least. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know, he was the real deal, and that's
Speaker 1: that's really was the coolest thing the competition whatever, But
Speaker 1: the coolest thing was being able to meet and hang
Speaker 1: out with and just you act a little bit with
Speaker 1: a lot of these really good soft guys from from
Speaker 1: around the world. Yeah. I think that that. It's just
Speaker 1: it's a global community and I've seen that ever since
Speaker 1: coming on board here. Um, it's it's more than just
Speaker 1: America Canada, you know, Uh, you can't see it in
Speaker 1: the stream, which, by the way, if you're checking out
Speaker 1: the stream, I apologize for the darkness here. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know what's up. It was like lighter before
Speaker 1: and then I changed around some setting. I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to funk around with. But anyway, I don't. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know. But like up on here, you guys can't
Speaker 1: see it in the stream, but we have like the
Speaker 1: Polish gram Um who Brandon has has worked with, and yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just it's cool to see that there's that global presidence.
Speaker 1: There's some good Yeah, that's what I've heard. I've heard
Speaker 1: a lot of great stuff. Um. So for those of
Speaker 1: you watching the stream once again, because I know there's
Speaker 1: people jumping in and out, I'm here with Jerard Ross,
Speaker 1: green Beret weapons sergeant, still active duty. I'm getting a
Speaker 1: ton of questions coming in and you know, we'll get
Speaker 1: into your current background or current UM happenings right now
Speaker 1: with raw well tactical, because I do want to hear
Speaker 1: about that. But I'm looking at some questions coming in,
Speaker 1: UH and actually a few from our staff, like Christian
Speaker 1: prosper the gear guy in me UH needs to ask
Speaker 1: the ask ath matic what are his preferred tourniquets and
Speaker 1: what are there are there any that he considers junk
Speaker 1: gear and that's just marketed. Well, good question. That is
Speaker 1: a great question. Uh he wants to start some fist fights.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you can get too deltas in the room
Speaker 1: and h same background, the same experience, and they'll fight
Speaker 1: all day about what's best. Me. I really like the
Speaker 1: wide soft ties UM. That's what I carry, and I
Speaker 1: like it one because it's it's wide, it's it's easy
Speaker 1: to use, but it's it's all metal um. The most
Speaker 1: popular ones out there the cat tourniquets, and cats are
Speaker 1: great for what they are when they're new. How the package.
Speaker 1: I've just seen so many of them exposed the sunlight.
Speaker 1: They get brittle and they snap and they break. So
Speaker 1: I really liked the wide soft UM. I also like that,
Speaker 1: I know it's not popular with a lot of people.
Speaker 1: The swat tea I like that as I think it's
Speaker 1: a really good jack of all trades. You can have
Speaker 1: that that child who you know their legs are this
Speaker 1: big around that these normal turn a cain say they
Speaker 1: won't work on on them because they're they're too big,
Speaker 1: And you can use that that swat tea on a child,
Speaker 1: you can use it on on a canine, on an animal, um,
Speaker 1: and you can also use it in a really large
Speaker 1: people And it's a good jack of all trades. It's
Speaker 1: not perfect though, if you don't apply it correctly then
Speaker 1: it can slip. Um. But those are probably two favorite
Speaker 1: ones that I like. Um. That good question from Christian Um.
Speaker 1: Scott Whittner who's also from the site, And we do
Speaker 1: have other people watching, of course, but those are the
Speaker 1: guys asking questions. I want to get to them. Yes,
Speaker 1: Scott Whittner, who's a huge gear guy, says, ask him
Speaker 1: about his preferred weapons platforms in E d C. Good questions.
Speaker 1: You definitely are a gear guy. Yeah, E d C.
Speaker 1: I like, Uh, that's a good question. I prefer the MMP.
Speaker 1: I like the MP in nine. Um, that's what I
Speaker 1: usually carry obviously in New York. Still make it because
Speaker 1: I left the great state of Pennsylvania to come here
Speaker 1: today and very police state of New York, right, Um,
Speaker 1: So I like carrying that. But then also for the
Speaker 1: longest time and I still carry quite often a clock nineteen.
Speaker 1: I'm not a really huge fan of the clock platform.
Speaker 1: They're just like an a k though their workhorse, and
Speaker 1: they'll go all day long. One of the primary reasons
Speaker 1: that I've carried the glock for so long is because
Speaker 1: of all of our students, whether it's military law enforcement
Speaker 1: or or civilians or carrying glocks. So I just need
Speaker 1: to make sure I'm, you know, a master of carrying
Speaker 1: that um Brandon web it carries the glock. He says
Speaker 1: that the main reason is that one of the main reasons,
Speaker 1: sure it's not the only is that there's no safety.
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't like having a safety. Well, that's
Speaker 1: the same with the MMP. At least the one I
Speaker 1: carry doesn't have a safety. Yeah. Um, so that's source pistols.
Speaker 1: Those are my two favorite ones. I there's a small
Speaker 1: company by me in Pennsylvania called Viper Holsters. He's custom
Speaker 1: Kaidex maker um and I'm sure his quality is just
Speaker 1: as good as as a lot of other ones. He
Speaker 1: just happens to live close to me, and I really
Speaker 1: like a stuff. He has what he calls a hybrid holster,
Speaker 1: and that's the one I've I used most often. It's
Speaker 1: a codex holster that has leather um attached to to
Speaker 1: the one side on the outside, so it's nice and
Speaker 1: I'm carrying a Panix or whatever to have the leather
Speaker 1: up against you know, my skin or my body is
Speaker 1: sort of the hard codex. So that's my preferred holster.
Speaker 1: And in fact, with this last trip, um, I carried
Speaker 1: more concealed there and uh, much more low profile than
Speaker 1: than really any other trip that I've been on. And
Speaker 1: that's what I awesome. This is the beauty of not
Speaker 1: being in an actual studio is that you know, you
Speaker 1: hear the sounds of New York from the background, so
Speaker 1: that that that's what I used was was that you
Speaker 1: know that holster And then of course, um see some
Speaker 1: other specific stuff. There's another company I believe in Oregon
Speaker 1: called Snake Eater, and they make some good pouches and stuff.
Speaker 1: They make a really really cool um macpouch for for
Speaker 1: pistol and it's one of those uh I don't know,
Speaker 1: like the yoga stretchy pants, I don't know material, but
Speaker 1: it's deal so it's really tight. But what's nice is
Speaker 1: he also has a weave of Kaidex in there, so
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of form to it, enough form
Speaker 1: so it's easy to put magazines in. But also stiff
Speaker 1: enough so if I need to like charge my my pistol,
Speaker 1: I can use it. It'll it'll catch in and uh,
Speaker 1: you use it on the sites or whatever. So I
Speaker 1: dig that I carry that as well. UM, and then
Speaker 1: always have at a minimum am a swat tea on
Speaker 1: me if and then depending where I'm going there might
Speaker 1: have more medical stuff for my e DC. So there's
Speaker 1: a little bit of my EDC. Yeah. So I'm clearly
Speaker 1: here in studio with the gear guy, which is awesome.
Speaker 1: So if you have any gear questions, I think this
Speaker 1: is the guy to ask. Um. And we have people
Speaker 1: watching on YouTube on Twitch, so I'm looking at all
Speaker 1: the questions on YouTube master Chief one six seven asks
Speaker 1: and this is a good one from what you're saying earlier.
Speaker 1: If it can soft guys easily pick each other out
Speaker 1: in other countries, Uh, that's a good question. If I
Speaker 1: say yes, then it means we're good because you know,
Speaker 1: we're not highly trained. If say no, that's because we're
Speaker 1: good because we blend in. UM. I guess it really
Speaker 1: depends from my experience. It depends on what we're doing
Speaker 1: UM and the environment that we're in. Yeah, So it's
Speaker 1: not like I mean I feel like some guys would
Speaker 1: be like, you could just smell it on some guy
Speaker 1: that he's seen combat, he's seen some action or you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would assume it depends on the individual. Hum. One
Speaker 1: of my buddies I won't won't mention his name, but
Speaker 1: one of my buddies from from fifth Group who's done
Speaker 1: a lot. If I didn't know that, I would just
Speaker 1: think he's just a nice old family man with a
Speaker 1: bunch of kids. I would have had no idea that
Speaker 1: he's had so many. It's been so many direct action
Speaker 1: missions and I just he just blends in. Um So really,
Speaker 1: I guess it depends on on the individual. It's cool. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at all the time sat here, but apparently
Speaker 1: friends of yours watching. So yeah, Matt done, says Yo Jared, longtime,
Speaker 1: no see, glad to see you going well. Cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have big Phil camp and watching. Um. So yeah,
Speaker 1: keep the questions coming. I'm gonna check them out him
Speaker 1: to see what you guys want to ask. But of
Speaker 1: course I want to get into what you're doing right now.
Speaker 1: You're currently the founder and head instructor at Rockwell Tactical,
Speaker 1: based out of Central Pennsylvania, which we were just talking
Speaker 1: about bringing principal training. Uh, it brings principal based training
Speaker 1: to students, I should say. Uh. And by the way,
Speaker 1: the website is rockwell Tactical dot com. I'll give that
Speaker 1: out again. Um. But yeah, get into how you started
Speaker 1: this company and just the origin of it and what
Speaker 1: you guys are doing. It really goes along with with
Speaker 1: just who I am and you know all my my
Speaker 1: past experiences. UM. I'll start with when I was going
Speaker 1: through the Q course at Bragg. We lived off post
Speaker 1: and um, I went in one morning, go to pt
Speaker 1: and I love my wife. We had a couple of
Speaker 1: small kids at the time, and uh, she wished me
Speaker 1: well I left. She was almost asleep when she heard
Speaker 1: somebody trying to break into the house. And because we
Speaker 1: had talked, and because she grew up actually in Staten
Speaker 1: Island and she didn't grow upround firearms. But when we
Speaker 1: were dating, her attitude was kind of like, well, I
Speaker 1: kind of like you. I guess I'll tolerate the firearms.
Speaker 1: I guess I'll tolerate you taking me to the range.
Speaker 1: And then um, when we were married, it was the
Speaker 1: same attitude, and I guess I kind of like you
Speaker 1: I kind of want this marriage thing to work, So
Speaker 1: I'll put up with and I'll tolerate the firearms in
Speaker 1: the house and and and learning how to use them
Speaker 1: and stuff, just because you're so insisting in it. So
Speaker 1: I'm gone five three years. So in the morning, and
Speaker 1: she hears the noise, and because I had worked with
Speaker 1: her and because we had talked about stuff, she immediately
Speaker 1: knew what to do, and she grabbed the Mossberg shotgun
Speaker 1: from underth the bed. She knew she had to get
Speaker 1: out of the bedroom, and she had to walk down
Speaker 1: the hall to be a barrier to prevent anyone who's
Speaker 1: coming in the house and getting into the hallway and
Speaker 1: possibly getting to our children's bedrooms. Um, and if they're
Speaker 1: in the hallway, then she wouldn't even be able to
Speaker 1: shoot because she'd be afraid to possibly missing them and
Speaker 1: you know, and hitting that the children's bedrooms. So she
Speaker 1: walked on down the hall, and luckily for her and
Speaker 1: luckily forward for them. Um, they had a lookout looking
Speaker 1: through one of our windows into the living room and
Speaker 1: saw the hallway and saw this piste off, red headed
Speaker 1: woman walking down the hall with a shotgun. He yelled,
Speaker 1: and she heard them take off and run, so she
Speaker 1: post herself there, got out on the phone, called nine
Speaker 1: one one, waiting for the cops to arrive, and uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: the door they're trying to get in was open, And
Speaker 1: basically if she would have hesitated at all, it would
Speaker 1: have been a very different morning because they were they
Speaker 1: were the doors open, they had already made their entry.
Speaker 1: They could have you know, who knows what would happen.
Speaker 1: So with that experience, I became pretty passionate about teaching
Speaker 1: and m and preparing people. I finished the Q course,
Speaker 1: was active with with fifth group, and I came home
Speaker 1: to Pennsylvania on leave and a buddy of mine knew
Speaker 1: I was their friend from you know, growing up, and
Speaker 1: he said, hey, man, you you're a green break. Can
Speaker 1: you meet me this range and show me some stuff?
Speaker 1: So I agreed and I met him there, but he
Speaker 1: told a friend, who told a friend who told a friend.
Speaker 1: So I show up expecting me and my budding is
Speaker 1: me and like ten of the guys. So was the
Speaker 1: very first kind of like impromptu class where I started
Speaker 1: teaching these guys. So then it just became a habit.
Speaker 1: Every time I came home with pass or leave, I
Speaker 1: would contact him or some other people and we would
Speaker 1: get together and and I'd teach the stuff. I realized
Speaker 1: there's a huge vacuum in that area in Pennsylvania. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of really good instructors and companies teaching n
Speaker 1: RAY stuff, and that's good for what it is, but
Speaker 1: as far as like more advanced stuff, there's a pretty
Speaker 1: big vacuum there. So late two thousand ten, I decided
Speaker 1: to take a chance, created the company incorporated and started
Speaker 1: doing all logistical work to build UM in preparation for
Speaker 1: me leaving active duty. And I left July of two
Speaker 1: thousand twelve, and then when I got back with the
Speaker 1: rest of two thousand and twelve getting stuff set up,
Speaker 1: and then two thousand thirteen is when we really started
Speaker 1: building the Rockwell classes and started teaching. And since then
Speaker 1: every year we've just the talk more classes, UM talk
Speaker 1: more variety of stuff. I started at first is just
Speaker 1: a lot of soft guys, a lot of my buddies
Speaker 1: who are helping me, and then UM the past couple
Speaker 1: of years and started reaching out to to other people.
Speaker 1: So now we have some law enforcement working for us UH,
Speaker 1: some marines working for us I, even you know lowered
Speaker 1: myself from got an army ranger. Now you know, working
Speaker 1: with us, he's he's a really good dude. Um, but
Speaker 1: just try to you know, to grow the company and
Speaker 1: become more well rounded. So that's kind of you know,
Speaker 1: how we started. Yeah, that's interesting. I mean, the story
Speaker 1: with your wife is absolutely crazy, but it's interesting that
Speaker 1: it took that to make you want to go into
Speaker 1: the field because it's actually a pretty natural fit. I mean,
Speaker 1: we have so many guys on the podcast to our
Speaker 1: former stop and then do start these training facilities, so
Speaker 1: it's like a natural thing to do. But I guess
Speaker 1: maybe that was like the kick in the ash that
Speaker 1: I could do a good job at this, because you know,
Speaker 1: you're training someone from absolutely no experience to being able
Speaker 1: to handle a worst case scenario, and that's that's really
Speaker 1: what it was. Um with that experience, I became very passionate.
Speaker 1: We're all citizens of the greatest country on earth, and
Speaker 1: just because I've have this background and Uncle Sugar is
Speaker 1: paid for my training, doesn't mean I'm better than than
Speaker 1: anybody else. So that's you know, you read our catchphrase
Speaker 1: that our principal based training. That's we're trying to teach
Speaker 1: her these correct principles, and I'm trying to get good
Speaker 1: training out the good people because if and when that
Speaker 1: moment arise in someone's life, like my wife, I want
Speaker 1: them to be able to handle it. I want them
Speaker 1: to be able to, you know, defend themselves and defend
Speaker 1: their loved ones. My wife that morning, even though she
Speaker 1: didn't have to shoot, she experienced combat in a very emotional,
Speaker 1: um psychological, and very physical way. Um similar to anything
Speaker 1: I've experienced it overseas. UM. She luckily didn't have to
Speaker 1: pull the trigger, but but she would have if those
Speaker 1: guys would, if she would have sold them that hadn't
Speaker 1: been a lookout. She was ready to just start pumping
Speaker 1: and clicking in and you know, let need that threat.
Speaker 1: What you were saying about the n ra A instructors
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania, I could relate because I am, by no
Speaker 1: means like a big firearms guy. But I own a
Speaker 1: shotgun because I live on Long Island and I'm actually
Speaker 1: allowed to do that. I don't live here in the city. Um.
Speaker 1: So this was prior to being with Soft REP. You know,
Speaker 1: I just I wanted to make sure I was at
Speaker 1: least sufficient on the very basics. Got an n RA
Speaker 1: a instructor, took a couple of classes and then was
Speaker 1: good to go. The interesting thing for me, though, was,
Speaker 1: you know, this guy definitely knew his ship, was able
Speaker 1: to show me, you know what to do in terms
Speaker 1: of the basics, but look not like a fit guy
Speaker 1: by any means. And and then starts talking about well,
Speaker 1: if you need to clear a room and blah blah.
Speaker 1: And I'm starting to think to myself because this is
Speaker 1: prior working at software, but I did know some soft
Speaker 1: guys just who I knew from radio, And I feel like,
Speaker 1: unless you've been there and you've done that, I don't
Speaker 1: that you're not really the type of person I want
Speaker 1: to hear from on that because you don't really know
Speaker 1: how you would react in that scenario. You're probably just
Speaker 1: repeating something you heard from someone who is an actual expert.
Speaker 1: Like I want to go to that extent with training.
Speaker 1: I want to hear from you or Jeff Gonzalez or
Speaker 1: our friend Jason Delgado. Those are the guys who could
Speaker 1: tell me, you know, what you could do in those scenarios.
Speaker 1: I would think, yeah, absolutely, yeah. I feel like that's
Speaker 1: why it's important to have the background that you do
Speaker 1: to train people with the proficiency that you do well.
Speaker 1: One of the things I've I've done too is i've
Speaker 1: once it was join on with I started volunteering and
Speaker 1: teaching at at CEPHALIC, which I don't know if you're
Speaker 1: familiar with that. That's the Special Forces Advanced Urban Combat
Speaker 1: UM and we hold that three times a year. So
Speaker 1: I started, you know, already knew how to do stuff,
Speaker 1: but but going there and you learn so much more
Speaker 1: as an instructor. So I started learning more stuff, more
Speaker 1: things there UM and I I was able to do
Speaker 1: it a couple of times a year, so I was
Speaker 1: with that experience, I've taken some of the classes. Some
Speaker 1: things we do is teaching people, you know, with example
Speaker 1: my wife, how to clear rooms and how to defend
Speaker 1: themselves in case there's a home invasion. The smartest thing
Speaker 1: usually to do is to stay put in a room,
Speaker 1: and you know that's probably the safest thing to do,
Speaker 1: but they're different circumstances. Like with my wife, there are um,
Speaker 1: you know kids, you need to get to those bedrooms,
Speaker 1: you need to take care of those kids. You need
Speaker 1: to protect your your your loved ones. So there's a
Speaker 1: time and a place for that. Civilian to move. And
Speaker 1: that's what I've done, and that's what some of our
Speaker 1: classes have done. We've taken those principles that I've I've
Speaker 1: learned on the operation side, and then we've applied them
Speaker 1: to you know, as an individual, how a person can
Speaker 1: clear their home or how a couple i e. Husband
Speaker 1: and wife can can work together to to safely clear
Speaker 1: to their house. And that's exactly what you know, what
Speaker 1: you're saying that, that's what we've done with a lot
Speaker 1: of our classes. Try to take that real world experience
Speaker 1: and things we know that work in that environment and
Speaker 1: then tailored and tweak it a little bit to to
Speaker 1: work in a civilian environment. Well said Man. So once again,
Speaker 1: the website if you want to get trained by Jared
Speaker 1: and your group, it's Rockwell Tactical dot com, Facebook dot com,
Speaker 1: slash Rockwell Tactical at Rockwell Tactical on Instagram, and it's
Speaker 1: wrapping things up here. I'd like to get some more
Speaker 1: questions because people love hearing um from someone who really
Speaker 1: knows their ship on weapons and asking the questions. So, um,
Speaker 1: Donald Rutledge, do y'all use a number four shot in
Speaker 1: the Mossberg? Uh? That's a good question. Uh. We well, well,
Speaker 1: it depends, um, and what application talking about. If for
Speaker 1: classes we use all sorts of stuff a bird shot
Speaker 1: for a lot of stuff until we get specific for
Speaker 1: patterning and some of the other drills. But for for
Speaker 1: home defense use you know, there's a lot of different options.
Speaker 1: Use what works best for you. Cool. Um, you know
Speaker 1: it's funny someone is commenting on the darkness of the studio.
Speaker 1: I'm doing a Power of Thought podcast with Brandon later.
Speaker 1: Hopefully I can figure this all out. So I do
Speaker 1: apologize once again for how dark the studio itself is
Speaker 1: actually not that dark. It's the uh, it's it's the
Speaker 1: settings on the camera. Um. But I'll see if there's
Speaker 1: anything else coming in. Um. As you said, there's people
Speaker 1: who know you on here, which is pretty cool. Um. Oh,
Speaker 1: what's your favorite long range rifle? That's from Don Bonnet.
Speaker 1: I'm not a long range guy. I've never been to sodic. Um.
Speaker 1: We have a couple of guys that that that I
Speaker 1: specifically have brought on Rockwell that teach long range stuff.
Speaker 1: Everything that I've done has been CQB or or mid
Speaker 1: range stuff. UM. So I'm I don't feel qualified to
Speaker 1: uh to answer. Hey, this is the best thing out there. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: that's that's good. I think it's important to know what
Speaker 1: your lane is. And and I mean, are there people
Speaker 1: that you think are the go to guys? If if
Speaker 1: Jason is one of them, he's he's really a guy.
Speaker 1: Um and then yeah, I'll use his name. There's another
Speaker 1: guy who's gonna say but but but he's a little
Speaker 1: bit more protective than I am since he's still uh operational. Well,
Speaker 1: you do have people who might become clients. Because Nathan
Speaker 1: Center is saying he's interested in classes. If you're in
Speaker 1: the p A area, go for it. And he asks
Speaker 1: do you do any other c QB training? Yes, we
Speaker 1: do stuff that we've dedicated classes for law enforcement. We
Speaker 1: do CQB training, Like I've said, a lot of different
Speaker 1: classes one day to day, multiple days, um, with teaching
Speaker 1: different principles of of CQB basically four you know, for
Speaker 1: a husband and a wife or for defending the home.
Speaker 1: I don't know of any specific laws, but there's there's
Speaker 1: a line there, the one that I'm not willing to
Speaker 1: cross as far as teaching everybody. Um, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to teach for man CQB just to everybody, I'll say
Speaker 1: that for you the military, or for or for law enforcement.
Speaker 1: So we primarily get into one and two man. You
Speaker 1: know again, a husband and wife clearing and defending their home.
Speaker 1: All right, you told me that I could go back
Speaker 1: to it at some point, So as you're wrapping up
Speaker 1: any good combat stories, I'll tell one go for teple
Speaker 1: and and this is one that, um, if ever there's
Speaker 1: a scene in my life that I want to see
Speaker 1: in a movie, that this is it. This was a
Speaker 1: rack and this would have been two thousand four, and um,
Speaker 1: I was wasn't yet soft. I was still still eighty
Speaker 1: sewod and um. We had set up an improvised blocking
Speaker 1: position and it was just me and a couple of
Speaker 1: guys in one humpy, another couple of guys in a humpy,
Speaker 1: and we were basically had funneled people through and we
Speaker 1: were checking out cars just randomly. And this was back
Speaker 1: in the days when we didn't have at least we
Speaker 1: didn't have gun trucks, we didn't have up armored. This
Speaker 1: was like cargo hum vys with mad Max armor welded on.
Speaker 1: And I had a saw and being the guy that
Speaker 1: I am growing up reading all the the Vietnam books.
Speaker 1: One of the things I learned from those old timers
Speaker 1: in Vietnam is that some guys would have a twenty
Speaker 1: round our third round mag loaded with nothing but tracers,
Speaker 1: like a team leader someone, so if they get into
Speaker 1: f our fight, they use the tracers to you know,
Speaker 1: to mark a target where everyone would direct their fire.
Speaker 1: Just the technique. So me, being the crazy kid that
Speaker 1: I was, I had my two hunter around saw drum
Speaker 1: and I had manipulated the rounds so like the first
Speaker 1: thirty rounds was straight tracer, and then like every other
Speaker 1: round was tracer, and then kind of um, near the
Speaker 1: end of it, it was normal one and four, and
Speaker 1: then like the last ten rounds again with straight tracers.
Speaker 1: So I know the drum was just about out. So
Speaker 1: I had this this drum and it was it was
Speaker 1: dark out and um, it's kind of boring. Cars coming by.
Speaker 1: And then about three up the road, some guys didn't
Speaker 1: know we were there, and there was a car with
Speaker 1: a driver and two shooters. The shooters got out, they
Speaker 1: went into a cafe, and because there's so much going on,
Speaker 1: we didn't see them either. And then they went a
Speaker 1: cafe and assassinated somebody. So we heard the A K
Speaker 1: rounds going off. We saw them jump in the car
Speaker 1: and that came cruising towards us. So then as they're
Speaker 1: coming towards us, somebody else stopped. They didn't stop, so
Speaker 1: then um, I lit them up with the saw. So
Speaker 1: again it was like straight laser beams. Nothing of tracers
Speaker 1: into the car. And so there's this big volume the
Speaker 1: noise and then silence. And what was was crazy is
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys can see in there,
Speaker 1: but that the humps were we're kind of set diagonal,
Speaker 1: so there's a lot of noise and then no noise
Speaker 1: in this car just slowly creeped by, shot up full
Speaker 1: of holes, slumped over bodies, all the tracers burning inside.
Speaker 1: So this orange glow and you just saw you know,
Speaker 1: stuff dripping out of out of things as this car
Speaker 1: slowly creep by, and all of us like you know,
Speaker 1: just in ah, you know, holy crap. Is this thing
Speaker 1: just slowly creep by then stopped at a at a
Speaker 1: curb when it finally came to rest. Um so that
Speaker 1: was that was that was pretty wild. I knew I'd
Speaker 1: get a badass story out of you, man. I mean
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a lot of that. The epilogue to
Speaker 1: that one, the after stories. When we cleared the car,
Speaker 1: there was an air freshener in there, and uh so
Speaker 1: there was three holes and air fresheners and stuff on it.
Speaker 1: So I might have liberated air freshman. I might have
Speaker 1: put up my own car and occasionally had people who driving,
Speaker 1: Hey do you smell? That was a smell like the
Speaker 1: sniff and I don't know, orange no smells like death,
Speaker 1: And uh, that's that's what I did. That's a that's
Speaker 1: a nice little Um. I guess you would say souvenir
Speaker 1: from pretty awesome time. Um. You know, we're also on Twitch,
Speaker 1: so I'll get to maybe one last question here unless
Speaker 1: there's other good ones. By the way, it's brighter now,
Speaker 1: so the sun came at Uh so you guys can
Speaker 1: actually see what we look like. Uh the doughnut goon
Speaker 1: who has been watching every time we're on Twitch, which wee,
Speaker 1: which we appreciate. What do you think would be the
Speaker 1: best set up for a patrol rifle? I work in
Speaker 1: law enforcement and I'm looking to put a better kit
Speaker 1: together instead of just a vanilla a r Oh, that's
Speaker 1: a good question. I know a lot of law enforcement,
Speaker 1: a lot of departments, though it's dictated to them what
Speaker 1: they can what they can't have. Um. But with the
Speaker 1: patrol rifle, you definitely want a flashlight some kind and
Speaker 1: and I won't get into specifics, whether you know a
Speaker 1: surefire or something else. There's there's good flashlights out there,
Speaker 1: but definitely get a flash right, Um, definitely get a
Speaker 1: two point sling. I've used the Victors or the Blue Force.
Speaker 1: I've used the Proctor sling, and I dig the Proctorice sling.
Speaker 1: I like that one. Uh, Frankie's a he's a pretty
Speaker 1: cool guy. And I've also used the v Tax sling
Speaker 1: and they're all pretty much the same sling, just the
Speaker 1: different flavor of the same type of thing. So you
Speaker 1: get a good two point sling. I'm a really big
Speaker 1: fan of the grip stop. It's the greatest hand stop
Speaker 1: out there. And now maybe tomorrow someone might invent something better,
Speaker 1: but for the past couple of years, the grip stop
Speaker 1: is the greatest hand stop, hands down on a rifle
Speaker 1: anymore anymore. Patrol rifles, the rifles themselves, they don't look
Speaker 1: right unless you have a crip stop on it. Um.
Speaker 1: So there's just a couple of things to do. It.
Speaker 1: Make sure you get um some kind of a flash hider.
Speaker 1: I like Smith Vortex Online because it's it's a fighting gun,
Speaker 1: it's a your patrol rifle. You're not gonna be using
Speaker 1: it in competition, so there's no need to have a
Speaker 1: break on it or something that's gonna the big um
Speaker 1: ball of flame out there. So you get a get
Speaker 1: a flash eighter, and on top of that, you get
Speaker 1: a good red dot. UM. Of course there's the the
Speaker 1: A points are real popular. I've used an EO Tech
Speaker 1: forever on my work guns. UM. I know they've got
Speaker 1: a pretty bad you know, people are pretty you know
Speaker 1: have they have a bad rep right now, and I
Speaker 1: guess they're going away. But I haven't head any issues
Speaker 1: with mine though a lot of people have an issues.
Speaker 1: But there's also there's a newer company called hollow Sun.
Speaker 1: It's a foreign company, UM, and they make some some
Speaker 1: okay optics and uh. On this last trip, I actually
Speaker 1: had a hollow Sun that I was expecting to destroy
Speaker 1: and we put it on some of our work guns
Speaker 1: and a lot of different guys on my team used
Speaker 1: it and just to test it out, and it actually
Speaker 1: held up really well. Holly sun is very cost effective
Speaker 1: to UM, so you'll get some kind of a site
Speaker 1: like that. I was gonna say, as you as you're
Speaker 1: talking sorry about the sun now all of a sudden
Speaker 1: being in your eyes, should I should I close these
Speaker 1: as where you're right? I'm it, Okay, it's just funny.
Speaker 1: We went from being too dark now it's like super
Speaker 1: bright man. We gotta we gotta get good lighting here. UM.
Speaker 1: We have more questions coming in, so I figure we'll
Speaker 1: get to them. Why not, um, Don Bonnett, best home
Speaker 1: defense weapon, best home defense weapon, I'm going to cop
Speaker 1: out on that. Your best home defense weapon is the
Speaker 1: weapon you know how to handle the best. UM. At
Speaker 1: the time, the best thing for my wife to use
Speaker 1: was that that shotgun because she knew it the best. UM.
Speaker 1: Now she's actually very comfortable because after that experience, she
Speaker 1: was born again hard. So she carries all the time
Speaker 1: and she's she's pretty good. UM. So now she actually
Speaker 1: she would use her her pistol. She she likes an
Speaker 1: m MP as well, so that's what she'd go for.
Speaker 1: For myself, I would go for my A R. I
Speaker 1: know my a are better than than any other weapon system.
Speaker 1: I can use it better, and I have ammunition appropriate
Speaker 1: to be used inside the house with it. So that's
Speaker 1: that's what I go to, UM, And I think that
Speaker 1: that's probably the best answer I can give. The best firearm,
Speaker 1: the best weapon for for home defense is the one
Speaker 1: that you know and that you can handle the best,
Speaker 1: Well said, um, James C. Do you, James C. Horn,
Speaker 1: do you travel to other states for classes? And if
Speaker 1: I have a local range, can class be set up there? Yes? Yes,
Speaker 1: so far, even though we're based in Pennsylvania, so far
Speaker 1: we've been as far north as New Hampshire, south as
Speaker 1: Florida and west it's Colorado to do classes. And we're
Speaker 1: always looking to to go and meet new people and
Speaker 1: have a good time. We have a very silly question
Speaker 1: up here on YouTube, and I'll ask it. Why not? Sure?
Speaker 1: Why not? Sean Dunn asks if I trained with the
Speaker 1: twenty two caliber caliber version of a five fifties six
Speaker 1: rifle that I have, does that make me gay? Well? No, no,
Speaker 1: it doesn't make you gay. And and hey here it's
Speaker 1: soft rep. We have loved for everybody, so no, no disrespect. Um,
Speaker 1: All right, I think that covers a lot there, Man,
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Speaker 1: before we wrap this up, any any tips to end
Speaker 1: this off? M oh I will mention this. Uh there
Speaker 1: is a really cool place whether you train with us
Speaker 1: or you can actually uh um, if you have your
Speaker 1: own group or whatever, you can actually rent the place.
Speaker 1: But it's a newer place up in northern Pennsylvania called
Speaker 1: the Shooters Gauntlet and it's about two square miles of
Speaker 1: training space. They have an eleven hundred yard long range.
Speaker 1: They're putting in a yard long range that should be
Speaker 1: completed in a couple of months, multiple ranges, and it's
Speaker 1: what we do all of our more advanced stuff. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, car stuff in cars, through cars, night stuff
Speaker 1: with night vision, jungle walks. The owner of the place said, Hey,
Speaker 1: as long as legal, you can do whatever you want here.
Speaker 1: I don't care blow up a car. I could care
Speaker 1: less as long as it's legal. So I know, Um,
Speaker 1: there's other people who are listening and who are watching,
Speaker 1: who who have their own training thing, and that's a
Speaker 1: good resource. So check those guys out, talk to talk
Speaker 1: to the owner. That might be a place um Um,
Speaker 1: I know we use it a lot, but it might
Speaker 1: be a place for some of these other other individuals
Speaker 1: are the companies that check altum and use as well. Awesome. Well,
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