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Speaker 1: Ian Scotto here in studio with Jason Delcato. It's funny
Speaker 1: that I said to Jason. I was like, i gotta
Speaker 1: get a little bit hype here because I've been in
Speaker 1: studio since earlier this morning, we did a really awesome
Speaker 1: tour of thought with my friend Rick onger Um, former
Speaker 1: president CEO of Marvel, creator of Biker Mice from Mars,
Speaker 1: which people might remember was similar to Teenage Mutant Ninja
Speaker 1: Turtles from our time. I think you're around my age.
Speaker 1: I never even I don't even know, so yeah, you're
Speaker 1: you're four years five years older than me. Forgetting my
Speaker 1: age here, not no big deal, but yeah, exactly, I
Speaker 1: mean that was a great analogy. I mean they are similar.
Speaker 1: They're they're that generation's uh teenage music, Nina Mutant Ninja Turtles.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny he said the exact same thing,
Speaker 1: and the way you said he said teenage mutant ninja turtles.
Speaker 1: That's a mouthful. You know, try saying that three times, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: But he admits he was like, hey, I was looking
Speaker 1: for he said it during the interview. I was looking
Speaker 1: for the next ninja turtles thing. Two joints into you know,
Speaker 1: hanging out on the water, he said. It came up
Speaker 1: with this crazy idea. People thought it was ridiculous. Dude.
Speaker 1: I love when people just like throw down on their
Speaker 1: pro marijuana you know, beliefs, because you know what, let's
Speaker 1: be honest, that's nothing comes from that. I mean you
Speaker 1: you smoke weed and you go to bed, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, but you know, you get creative and stuff.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. That's I like that. It's one of those
Speaker 1: ridiculous things. You know. I'm a pretty sober guy like
Speaker 1: Nick Irving now, even though I never had any issues,
Speaker 1: but the fact that it's like alcohol perfectly eagle people
Speaker 1: getting the car accidents. Dr Well, what what does we do?
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's died from weed. I mean, you
Speaker 1: smoke more weed. The more weed you smoke, the more
Speaker 1: money you say, because you don't want to go out.
Speaker 1: I mean, you could have all these plans like yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go out club and we're gonna go do this,
Speaker 1: and then you smoke a little joint and it's like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch Netflix. You know. I talked about this
Speaker 1: with b K on the podcast because b K was like, look,
Speaker 1: I'm all for marijuana legalization, but it it does make
Speaker 1: you wasy, yes, and it makes you tocrascinate, unmotivated. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I agree with all that, but a lot of people
Speaker 1: would probably say to us, like, what about Joe Rogan,
Speaker 1: because I've heard Rogan say that he'll smoke a joint
Speaker 1: before he goes to jiu jitsu. My argument would be
Speaker 1: for every Joe Rogan, there's like fifteen ways pod heads
Speaker 1: I agree with you, I agree with you, I agree
Speaker 1: with you. Um, it just depends on that level of
Speaker 1: I guess intake. You know, like if you're used to it,
Speaker 1: you know, then maybe you can function. You're called the
Speaker 1: functioning addicts, but maybe you know it's like nothing, but
Speaker 1: not everyone could deal with it like that. Plus, it's
Speaker 1: an expensive habit that you know, to the point where
Speaker 1: you'll get to where you're functioning on a daily level.
Speaker 1: You know, you're spending a lot of money. You're talking
Speaker 1: about a few hundred a week, so you know that's
Speaker 1: unrealistic for you know, regular middle class working people. You know. So,
Speaker 1: so I was looking at your Instagram since I saw
Speaker 1: you a couple of days ago, and you're working on
Speaker 1: some pretty badass tattoos. I like that that owl that
Speaker 1: you did. I got another session laid on and that like,
Speaker 1: you know, I just want to you know, this is
Speaker 1: my platform, so I just want to, you know, get
Speaker 1: to as many people as I can with this message.
Speaker 1: You know, great tattoos, honestly, they take a few sessions.
Speaker 1: You know, you can't come into a tattoo shop and
Speaker 1: have these delusions of grand You're expecting your tattoo artists
Speaker 1: to give you an entire sleep in a few hours.
Speaker 1: You know, Uh, for it to be done right, your
Speaker 1: artists needs to be fresh, you know, his minds if
Speaker 1: you fresh, you know, he needs to be in the game.
Speaker 1: So after a few hours, four or five six hours,
Speaker 1: excuse me, four or five six hours, you know you're
Speaker 1: gonna call it quits because now I'm doing you an
Speaker 1: injustice by pushing along and not caring about what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: So you know it, be wary, be weary of that.
Speaker 1: If your tattoo artist says that he could bang out
Speaker 1: of sleeve in one day, you know, for a thousand
Speaker 1: bucks you know, or five bucks, you know, and just
Speaker 1: keep it moving. That's not the guy for you. You know.
Speaker 1: It's it's not as simple as these TV shows even then.
Speaker 1: I mean, the average tattoo on inc Masters is about
Speaker 1: five to six hours. That's a long time. You're asking
Speaker 1: these clients, these skins they call him on the show,
Speaker 1: to endure six hours of Some of these guys have
Speaker 1: very heavy handed and they have brutal techniques. Because you see,
Speaker 1: the most vibrant tattoo or the most saturated tattoo is
Speaker 1: the one that looks the most complete. So the only
Speaker 1: way you're gonna accomplish that is by really taking your
Speaker 1: time and meticulously, you know, going over every square inch
Speaker 1: of that art of that piece. You know. So it's
Speaker 1: gonna take a while. And so if guy's banging out
Speaker 1: something on you in three or four hours and saying,
Speaker 1: you know, while you got a quarter sleeve, you know
Speaker 1: it's just or half sleeve, you know it, just keep
Speaker 1: it moving, that's not the guy for you, you know. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: so we have Chris Tonto Pronto coming on and actually
Speaker 1: just about five minutes, so really quick and update. I
Speaker 1: wanted to give you guys. The last episode, we talked
Speaker 1: about the New York City terrorist attack. Um, I have
Speaker 1: an article here, you know. I printed out a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff from Derek again and our Green Beret writer. Uh.
Speaker 1: And the big update is really what Trump said about it.
Speaker 1: Trump's tweet, which I think, pull up here. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: must not allow ices to return or enter our country
Speaker 1: after defeating them in the Middle East and elsewhere. Enough
Speaker 1: and then you actually let me know about this article.
Speaker 1: This is from the New York Post that the New
Speaker 1: York City terrorist suspect predd a mosque that was probed
Speaker 1: after nine eleven, And you were telling me that it
Speaker 1: was several mosques within a certain ratios. So it's not
Speaker 1: you know, because Okay, here's the thing. You know. You
Speaker 1: can subscribe to the right wing media, you can subscribe
Speaker 1: to the left wing media. But what I do every
Speaker 1: morning is I'll put on the news and I'll start
Speaker 1: with Fox because they're more leaning towards you know, what
Speaker 1: my beliefs are. But I will still double back and
Speaker 1: hit up CNN. I'll still double back and hit up
Speaker 1: m MSNBC, even though it's like, you know, unbearable for
Speaker 1: me to do just cringe most of the times when
Speaker 1: Rachel Mattos, I was just like disgusting. Um, But you know,
Speaker 1: I want to I want their take on each subject
Speaker 1: or each situation that you know, I'm interested in, because
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, you just want to get
Speaker 1: all the pieces of information. So so Fox isn't gonna
Speaker 1: tell you, and you know, isn't gonna tell you that
Speaker 1: this probe that they're talking about that involved the FBI
Speaker 1: was um in conjunction with every mosque within a two
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty mile radius of New York City, and
Speaker 1: this was conducted by New York City's uh, you know,
Speaker 1: Terrorist Task Force or Intelligent Task Force or whatever. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure what the exact name is, but you know,
Speaker 1: so it was it was a part of that. And
Speaker 1: I think what they did have on this mosque was
Speaker 1: a couple of aerial photos and more of a debrief
Speaker 1: you know we call them in contracting, we call them TSRs,
Speaker 1: you know, technical size surveys and stuff like that. So
Speaker 1: that's what I think it was more or less. But um,
Speaker 1: I think someone was tipped off to the probe, and
Speaker 1: a couple of a couple of federal lawsuits came about
Speaker 1: and the probe or the project was disbanded in so
Speaker 1: it's not like, oh, this mosque was particularly being looked
Speaker 1: at for terrorist activities. It was just that's what we did. Um.
Speaker 1: But then again, you let's see an n tell it,
Speaker 1: and you know, they don't even shine any light on whatsoever.
Speaker 1: So it's a tough question, and we could probably spend
Speaker 1: the whole episode on this, but we have Chris coming
Speaker 1: on in a few minutes. But I guess real quick,
Speaker 1: you know, just your take on how do you balance
Speaker 1: that out? I mean, we're a country at the First
Speaker 1: Amendment with freedom or legion. At the same time, we
Speaker 1: can't just turn to blind eye to Islamic terrorism when
Speaker 1: there are mosques that are radicalizing people. You know, it's like,
Speaker 1: what's the solution to finding a balance between those things.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not a big fan of being PC,
Speaker 1: you understand. So it's like the whole uh Colin Kaepernick
Speaker 1: thing for me, Like, Okay, he took his platform, the
Speaker 1: national platform, he had to highlight what he felt was
Speaker 1: something that needed to have attention brought to address be addressed,
Speaker 1: which was the um I guess the the injustices to
Speaker 1: disenfranchise minorities or you know, the police brutality to blacks
Speaker 1: and Hispanics or whatever. So he used that, and I
Speaker 1: don't say whatever like I'm just writing it off. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, you know, so he used that his platform,
Speaker 1: you know, to highlight that. But there's consequences to your platform.
Speaker 1: And the consequence is are now look at what we're
Speaker 1: dealing with on an international I mean on a national
Speaker 1: level politically, and also he's been he's had a hard
Speaker 1: time getting signed by another team because they don't want
Speaker 1: that headache and you know, the the the brush fire
Speaker 1: he started. Okay, so that's that there's consequences to your actions,
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. So you, being a man, you
Speaker 1: know where you're setting out to do, you have to
Speaker 1: be willing to accept the consequences. So that to me,
Speaker 1: in part is uh goes hand in hand with this
Speaker 1: whole You wanna you want to be a part of
Speaker 1: a mosque. You want to you want to be a Muslim,
Speaker 1: you want to be a proud Muslim American. You want
Speaker 1: but you have to understand there is a certain fear
Speaker 1: that is going on within this country that is associated
Speaker 1: with your religion, and we can't deny the the coincidence
Speaker 1: or coincidences that are occurring within these terrorist attacks and
Speaker 1: your religion. So if you want to continue with your religion,
Speaker 1: if you want to go ahead wholeheartedly follow it and
Speaker 1: still be a part of this society where you have
Speaker 1: to understand that you're gonna be under scrutiny. So I mean,
Speaker 1: like I said, I'm not a big fan of PC,
Speaker 1: so to me if But at the same time, you know,
Speaker 1: we do have constitutional we do have constitutional rights, and
Speaker 1: we have to find out what you do a Biden,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about We're gonna talk about that
Speaker 1: here shortly. But you know, everyone has a constitutional right.
Speaker 1: But you have to understand that the nation, that the presidency,
Speaker 1: that that cabinet, whoever it is, and this is this
Speaker 1: probe started in Obama's administration. But I'm just wondering, and
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, we're gonna get to Chris,
Speaker 1: but what would your solution be. I mean, because you
Speaker 1: can't and and and you know, some people laugh because
Speaker 1: I have Alexa in my house, and you know, it
Speaker 1: sounds like I'm going off on a tangent. But a
Speaker 1: lot of my friends are like saying, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: they listen to Alexa and your microphones are always on
Speaker 1: and you're you're you know, um freaking you know, you
Speaker 1: should cover the camera on your dag on uh, you know,
Speaker 1: laptop or whatever. But I get that, Yeah, I get
Speaker 1: it too. But you know what, I got none hide.
Speaker 1: You know, if I'm oking pot or I'm sleeping with
Speaker 1: someone in my house, or I'm talking crap, I don't care.
Speaker 1: It's me. What are you gonna do? Lock me up
Speaker 1: for it? I'm not doing nothing illegal. I'm not selling drugs.
Speaker 1: I'm not you know, conspiring to attack you know, some
Speaker 1: type of government facility. I'm not doing any of those things.
Speaker 1: I'm living my life as a human and I understand
Speaker 1: that that's what people do, So I'm not scared of that.
Speaker 1: So you know, to me, the uh, the convenience outweighs
Speaker 1: the potential of So. In other words, what I'm saying is,
Speaker 1: if you want to subscribe to that religion, you want
Speaker 1: to be a party, you want to love it, you
Speaker 1: wanna that is your way of life, you have to
Speaker 1: understand the certain things that come with that as well,
Speaker 1: so would you be opposed to them, you know, just
Speaker 1: to be objective here and give the devil's advocate. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you're not doing nothing here, would you be opposed
Speaker 1: to them, you know, during surveillance on churches on kin
Speaker 1: don't care. I don't care, because if they're not doing
Speaker 1: nothing wrong, then nothing wrong would come of it. Now,
Speaker 1: if it's a witch hunt, that's a different story. If
Speaker 1: it's something similar to what the democratic part he is
Speaker 1: doing to this presidency, then that's a different story because
Speaker 1: now you're talking about and hindrance of operation and hindrance
Speaker 1: of life. And if they're not in your way and
Speaker 1: they're silently observing or probing or whatever, everyone, it's just
Speaker 1: a part of life. I'm sorry. I don't care. I
Speaker 1: don't care. Send someone into my freaking tattoo shop and
Speaker 1: probe me. I don't care. You're not gonna You're not
Speaker 1: gonna learn nothing new about me. I'm an open book,
Speaker 1: I'm an American, you know. Every now and then I'll
Speaker 1: smoke some pot, I'll drink I'll i'll you know in
Speaker 1: New York. Yeah, I mean whatever, I don't care. You know,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, what are you gonna
Speaker 1: do to me, you know, But I'm not doing nothing,
Speaker 1: and I still pay my goddamn taxes, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I'm a patriot, right. I love this goddamn country,
Speaker 1: so I have nothing to hide. And that's my point.
Speaker 1: So it's something we have to live with. Everyone's saying that,
Speaker 1: you know, we have to live with the possibility of
Speaker 1: terrorism resurfacing every now and then, and that's just you know,
Speaker 1: we have to go about our way of life as
Speaker 1: normal and things of that nature. It I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: rather I know that we're being watched and you know,
Speaker 1: scrutinized for such things. With that, let's get to Chris,
Speaker 1: because we got Chris for a limited time and then
Speaker 1: we could continue this conversation a little bit. But it's interesting, man.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's there's always easy solutions and everything.
Speaker 1: Um diplomacy, man, you gotta take something from both sides.
Speaker 1: So joining us on the podcast. Always good to have
Speaker 1: Chris back. Army Ranger and one of the contractors of
Speaker 1: course at Benghazi. Chris Tonto Toronto, author of The Ranger Way. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, we always love having you on, but today
Speaker 1: in particular, and just this week, there's an important reason
Speaker 1: to bring you on, of course, and I think most
Speaker 1: of our audience knows by now, But the US is
Speaker 1: captured one of the key militants, and then Benghazi attack,
Speaker 1: which was Mustafa al imam Um scheduled to be charged
Speaker 1: in federal court, but he won't go to Guantanamo Bay.
Speaker 1: So the first thing I was wondering from you, Chris
Speaker 1: is just where were you when you heard this news?
Speaker 1: And and what was your reaction? I mean, is there
Speaker 1: any closure for you when you hear something like this?
Speaker 1: You know? No, No, I'll be honest. So to me,
Speaker 1: it's it's a little bit of the Evan flow. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's this is what happened. Terrorists kill kill Westerners, they
Speaker 1: kill Americans, you know, and I was involved in Then
Speaker 1: we go catch him or we go kill them. Um,
Speaker 1: So closure, you know, because no, because he's still he's
Speaker 1: suspected of being the suspected of possibly being a major
Speaker 1: player in it, just like Katala was suspected, which we
Speaker 1: come and find out. We told you that too. I
Speaker 1: even told you that in an interview when he got it.
Speaker 1: He was no mastermind. He wasn't even there when the
Speaker 1: ambassador was actually killed. So right now with me, I'm
Speaker 1: just kinda kind of waiting to see what he has
Speaker 1: to say. Um, you know he he's a terrorist, Yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely great And you know, fantastic job by the FBI,
Speaker 1: H R T teams, fantastic job by the military, the
Speaker 1: d O D team that that took him when it
Speaker 1: took him down. But you know, to to to say, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the guy that he did and he's the
Speaker 1: one that started like the fire. He's the one that
Speaker 1: you know, we don't know that. And and what I've
Speaker 1: learned the lessons I've learned brother, over the last four
Speaker 1: years with the politics of this um especially after the
Speaker 1: past administration, with them trying to basically find a scapegoat
Speaker 1: with Abu Katala and turn it into a side show
Speaker 1: with this dang criminal trial, which is ridiculous. Um that
Speaker 1: that you know, you just wait until wait until we
Speaker 1: actually find out what happened, Wait until we actually know
Speaker 1: what took place, uh and where this guy was at
Speaker 1: this particular time at the time of that night or
Speaker 1: if he's just again another another little pawn that we're
Speaker 1: finding and we're trying to make closure when there's when
Speaker 1: they're when there really isn't The closure will come for me, brother,
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, when we find out why
Speaker 1: we were left behind by by our own government. That's
Speaker 1: when the closure will come. As far as this goes, Hey,
Speaker 1: the terrorists throw him, get mo or execute him, you know,
Speaker 1: interrogate him and execute him and and and go catch
Speaker 1: another one. And the last podcast with Nick, we were
Speaker 1: saying the same exact things, and and Nick actually predicted
Speaker 1: that for you there would be really there's no closure
Speaker 1: there because one, you know, this guy, that's that's his
Speaker 1: whole life. I mean, he was bred and raised to
Speaker 1: hate us and kill us, and he's just another fighter,
Speaker 1: you know. And on top of that, we we just
Speaker 1: learned of this guy, so we don't even know what
Speaker 1: his role is in fact in this situation at all,
Speaker 1: so you know, And he also brought up the fact
Speaker 1: that that was the main point that probably would bring
Speaker 1: closure to you, to you guys, was the fact was
Speaker 1: who are we going to hold accountable for the lack
Speaker 1: of resources and support? That's where we need to look into. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and why was there this huge cover up? And you know,
Speaker 1: we we do know why. I know why I've been
Speaker 1: saying it. Why but I want I want that lady
Speaker 1: to be behind bars because and and and that, and
Speaker 1: that's that will be when closure comes finally from me um.
Speaker 1: But with this guy, you know, with with this guy, yes,
Speaker 1: again bad guys, just like Katala was. But by humanizing
Speaker 1: them and turning this into a we're humanizing terrorists. But
Speaker 1: basically by turning this into a criminal trial, these war
Speaker 1: these work not even work criminals, These these terrorists that
Speaker 1: committed a trocer sacks during war. Why are we turning
Speaker 1: this into a criminal trial? They do? They deserve those rights.
Speaker 1: So yes, the lawyers will argue with you. So what
Speaker 1: was on us soil, which it was the conflict is
Speaker 1: considered you a solid property. But these guys are not
Speaker 1: US citizens. And again this wasn't act during the war.
Speaker 1: So what do you do to bring him in like
Speaker 1: we did in the old days. You interrogate him, find
Speaker 1: out what they need to know and to keep the
Speaker 1: get mount of their lot or do you you or
Speaker 1: you kill him and you execute and and that's that's
Speaker 1: what needs to happen. But again, right now it's just
Speaker 1: it's politics and political correctness take take charge of this.
Speaker 1: And that again discussed me a little bit not disgusted
Speaker 1: me because they're turning this in and I'm sorry, guys,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hotel. Um, they're turning this into again another
Speaker 1: another media circus where it doesn't need to be really doesn't.
Speaker 1: So is it fair to say that it really doesn't
Speaker 1: matter to you whether he's you know, held and tried
Speaker 1: over here or in Guana Guantana. Well, it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: as long as this guy gets the death penalty if
Speaker 1: in fact he was a major player in the game.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, it doesn't really matter because to you,
Speaker 1: it's what fell short on our side. It's what matters. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's exactly so sure, why and why we're why was
Speaker 1: it consert even after multiple request by the State Department personel,
Speaker 1: Why were they left so short handed? And you know,
Speaker 1: if it was just us, it was just the Jr.
Speaker 1: S guys or just some security officers. And I'm saying
Speaker 1: that to my self. You know, this is what we do,
Speaker 1: this is where we're there, where we're we could die,
Speaker 1: and this as we sign up for. But you have
Speaker 1: an ambassador of that level and you leave him flapping
Speaker 1: out there for some reason. Why Why was he just
Speaker 1: say basically saying start up saying here, come get him.
Speaker 1: He's yours and and and again. It wasn't just some
Speaker 1: guy that donated to a campaign. This guy was a
Speaker 1: three star general if you want to put him in
Speaker 1: the same ranking structure with the levels of ambashadorship. This
Speaker 1: guy was a real deal foreign service officer, worked his
Speaker 1: way up. Uh and he he was a true believer. Great,
Speaker 1: you know he was um and he he was he
Speaker 1: was up there. This guy was a huge, high value target.
Speaker 1: And to let him flapping like that, I think is
Speaker 1: still beyond me. I think what's more most frustrating for
Speaker 1: you guys, particularly in the situation, more so the citizens
Speaker 1: and guys like me that I was contracting at the
Speaker 1: time this occurred. To um, it's we know there is
Speaker 1: no reason, Chris, there is no reason that can justify
Speaker 1: the the abandoning, because that's what it was, the abandoning
Speaker 1: of our forces over there. Or are you guys in
Speaker 1: particularly and someone of such stature the ambassador, you know
Speaker 1: there was no reason, no matter what is said. You
Speaker 1: don't live in Americans alone. You know, you never leave
Speaker 1: your body behind. You know. It's it's a rhetorical question
Speaker 1: that I've been asking over and over and over again
Speaker 1: and again. I should say it's more of a statement. Um,
Speaker 1: it's me saying, hey, hey, you you a holes. You
Speaker 1: know you're I know you're used to do but he
Speaker 1: you know, hey, you astair in DC's when you come claim,
Speaker 1: why don't you sacrifice your job and tell what happened here?
Speaker 1: So these players that had a hand in covering this
Speaker 1: up on both sides, the Republicans and the Democrats, they
Speaker 1: go to prison and they and they if they don't
Speaker 1: go to prison, at least people know, uh know what
Speaker 1: they did and they'll be shamed. But you know what
Speaker 1: what hurt politicians more than president anything else. It's it's ridicule,
Speaker 1: ridicule and shame. As if they're shamed for the rest
Speaker 1: of their lives and they're living in their nice places
Speaker 1: that they're all, hey, you did you did the dirty
Speaker 1: that these guys have been saying for years, and you
Speaker 1: are no bigger than that piece of crapp laying on
Speaker 1: the ground, Then then you know that would be closer
Speaker 1: for me too. Um. You know they get back on
Speaker 1: on on the guy on a mom or whatever the
Speaker 1: heck is the need to stop us. I don't think
Speaker 1: there needs to be a criminal trial. Again, I totally
Speaker 1: disagree with that, but I don't agree with Lindsay Graham
Speaker 1: on many things, and he's another politician, which sometimes he
Speaker 1: he he gets out there too far. But I do
Speaker 1: agree with him when he did say why are we
Speaker 1: bringing this guy? And why are we trying this guy? What?
Speaker 1: Since when do we try terrorists in a criminal trial?
Speaker 1: Why are we reading his miranda rights to him? Is
Speaker 1: he an American? No, he's not a meerpicist and he
Speaker 1: doesn't deserve this. But by doing that, again, we are humanizing.
Speaker 1: Where if when I did roist and they're laughing at
Speaker 1: a fresh night, they're laughing at saying, well, what does
Speaker 1: it matter if I kill the US and bastor I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna go and hang out in the prison, better
Speaker 1: than hanging out with the cave in Afghanistan and the
Speaker 1: Hindu kush. Yeah. I'm wondering, Chris, when when you hear
Speaker 1: news like this hit the wire, do you contact your
Speaker 1: former teammates and text them and just see what their
Speaker 1: attitude is about the situation, because I'm sure you know
Speaker 1: they had their own reactions when when they heard this, well, well,
Speaker 1: you know, Tiggsy, I like gotta do is look on
Speaker 1: social media for take I love t he he doesn't
Speaker 1: high you know, he did initially and when we started
Speaker 1: doing the book in the movie that I and I'll
Speaker 1: speak for him. He many ever say this, but I
Speaker 1: was just what I saw. I saw, you know, paramount,
Speaker 1: I saw has ship holding him back. He wanted to
Speaker 1: say more, and I wish you would have, but I
Speaker 1: understood why the marketing people, Hey, you don't take Tig.
Speaker 1: Tig is rougher than I, and when it comes to
Speaker 1: his talking, he doesn't. He doesn't hold back. And so
Speaker 1: I got. All I gotta do is go on social
Speaker 1: media and see how he feels. And he's the same
Speaker 1: as me. He's just kill that SLV and still find
Speaker 1: out what happened with Obama and Atlin Hillary? Why why
Speaker 1: are they left it? Why are they still out there
Speaker 1: when they brought this on, when they committed the atrocity,
Speaker 1: and they're they're just as culpable as a terrorists. But
Speaker 1: so all I get is that Boon and I actually,
Speaker 1: you know, we still have we have our training company now.
Speaker 1: Boone and I are still He's one of my best friends.
Speaker 1: We've been together for geez. I don't even know how
Speaker 1: many years now eighteen years we've been working as contractors
Speaker 1: together and been friends for a long time. Well, I
Speaker 1: actually text him on a daily basis. But he is
Speaker 1: the same view as me. It's like, this is a joke,
Speaker 1: the side show they're doing this criminal tropic this guy,
Speaker 1: yeahs a bad guy throwing the get mo or yeah,
Speaker 1: escapegoat there you thank you for the good work. Um.
Speaker 1: So he's just you know, he feels the same. He's
Speaker 1: the same as what I do is like this is
Speaker 1: just ridiculous. That's why we both have have not testified
Speaker 1: on that catala here and we've told him, we said no,
Speaker 1: you're gonna spin us because we're not coming in to
Speaker 1: be part of that clown show. Um. But then then
Speaker 1: then with but oz and I heard Oz on David
Speaker 1: Webb Show. I I got a lot of and you
Speaker 1: did to me and yesterday and this is just it's
Speaker 1: just because Halloween, and I'm sorry, I was with my
Speaker 1: family and Halloween. I wanted to kind of take a break. Understandable. Man.
Speaker 1: When I heard that, I was like, what the you
Speaker 1: You've done more media than pretty much anyone I know.
Speaker 1: You're you know you can bow out gracefully and do whatever,
Speaker 1: hang with your kids. I I appreciate it. But I
Speaker 1: did the media on Halloween and I was actually driving
Speaker 1: my son to school, driving back and I listened to David.
Speaker 1: David's a great I Burne, you know, David Webb, serious,
Speaker 1: fantastic friend. But I listened to show in the morning
Speaker 1: and heard Oz on there, and Oz was Oz was like,
Speaker 1: you know, there needs to be a criminal trial. There
Speaker 1: needs to be He was on sovereign us SO and
Speaker 1: I'm basically completely in disagreement with Oz. So. Um, but
Speaker 1: you don't want to be honest with you even since
Speaker 1: then got you. Oz and I never agreed on much anyway,
Speaker 1: So it's not not a shocker there so. But all
Speaker 1: of us in the sense of course are happy and
Speaker 1: are proud of the troops that winning got him and
Speaker 1: did the job they're supposed to do and grab that
Speaker 1: terrorists and um. But but we disagree on on on
Speaker 1: the method of what next of and hey, is this
Speaker 1: a great thing or is this just a thing that happens?
Speaker 1: And to me, you know, I think OZ believes it's
Speaker 1: a it's a great thing. Or so I'm listening to
Speaker 1: his interview and I'm serious. I don't really talk to
Speaker 1: OZ that much anymore. But me me, I'm like, yeah, good,
Speaker 1: got a terrorists, fantastic job, great job. Let's let's see
Speaker 1: if let's find out what this guy really is, or
Speaker 1: if he's just some guy that showed up and said
Speaker 1: all off bar after everything was over in the fighting
Speaker 1: move to our antics, or if he actually did take
Speaker 1: part in it. So um, yeah, bro, So you know
Speaker 1: that's that's actually that's actually Jack and I. We haven't
Speaker 1: discussed it, so and I might reach out to him,
Speaker 1: but normally I will Normally Jack O Hitt And if
Speaker 1: Jack is out of all of us, is probably the
Speaker 1: most even keel out of all of us, the most
Speaker 1: level headed. And I'm sure what will reach out seeing
Speaker 1: I talked from at least couple of times a month,
Speaker 1: A great guy, but he's still you know, he's still
Speaker 1: he's still jacking, enjoys this private time. So, aside from
Speaker 1: you know, because I feel there's mixed emotions with me,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure with you because you're you're obviously directly
Speaker 1: affected by this. So do you feel that this administration,
Speaker 1: aside from the fact that we're calling this guy escapegoat,
Speaker 1: do you feel that this administration is actually being proactive
Speaker 1: in your situation and trying to at least bring closure
Speaker 1: to these closure to this and and and be proactive
Speaker 1: and hunting down these individuals. Well, I I think uh,
Speaker 1: I think, um that they're being proactive in the sense
Speaker 1: that they're they're going to capture and terrish. I'm still
Speaker 1: trying to find out who was there and get the
Speaker 1: people that were there. You know, how many years has
Speaker 1: it been now it's almost six years. And would you
Speaker 1: feel that the Obama the Obama administration would have done this, Um, No,
Speaker 1: because I thought. I think they tried to get tried
Speaker 1: to end it with Katala and we spoke at all
Speaker 1: of us, All the guys spoke out about it. You know,
Speaker 1: that's not the guy we're not. And then you know
Speaker 1: we also said that during our Gazi Slubt Committee hearings.
Speaker 1: So I think they tried to put it to bed
Speaker 1: with him, and again we wouldn't let it. We wouldn't
Speaker 1: let that go. We wouldn't let it go to bed.
Speaker 1: So no, I don't I don't think the abodministration would
Speaker 1: have when have got somebody else or try tried to
Speaker 1: write the one thing that that the that the true
Speaker 1: administration is doing. That's a little different here is is
Speaker 1: they're not They're not claiming, can you guys hear me? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Uh, this administration isn't isn't claiming that this
Speaker 1: is the this is the mastermind, main culprit that killed
Speaker 1: everybody and was there. Yeah that it was there and
Speaker 1: did everything and everybody followed him and he planned it
Speaker 1: all there saying hey we got one of the main
Speaker 1: we got one of the players there. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: if if the tru administration goes that route like the
Speaker 1: abadministration doesn't say before they know all the facts, so
Speaker 1: this guy before they have a has to actually interrogate him.
Speaker 1: Um yeah, I'll be a little bit disappointed if they
Speaker 1: do what they're doing now and just saying, hey, we
Speaker 1: got one of the guys. Again. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: agree with the criminal trial aspect of it. I do
Speaker 1: not think that's necessary. I think you still interrogate him
Speaker 1: like you would any terrorists, you know, you know, to
Speaker 1: deal um. But then you said, then you lock him
Speaker 1: up and throw away the key, or if you find
Speaker 1: out and you can't tie him to the deaths like
Speaker 1: the death of any American or any of our allies.
Speaker 1: Then you then you string him up and you hang him.
Speaker 1: So my jury is still out on this one, brother,
Speaker 1: it really is. I'm wondering have you ever met with
Speaker 1: either Trump or anyone in the administration, because I think
Speaker 1: they owe you, guys, honestly, because you're in part of
Speaker 1: why this victory happened was the Benghazi incident, you know.
Speaker 1: And I'm glad you asked that, But again I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I don't care what what, what administration and what political
Speaker 1: party you're with. UM with me personally, no um. Now, Initially,
Speaker 1: his people did reach out when the election was going
Speaker 1: on and he was trying to and asked by would
Speaker 1: endorse him, and I said, no, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: endorce anybody. I don't. I don't And if you have
Speaker 1: any left listeners out there, no, I did not endorse
Speaker 1: Trump schocker. As you know, you guys, everybody thinks I'm
Speaker 1: this big Trump lover, I this his mom and son. No,
Speaker 1: I didn't, said no. The reason the reason I didn't
Speaker 1: is because, first of all, hey polic of the Second
Speaker 1: of all is that I wasn't going to turn Benghazi
Speaker 1: into it was already politicized enough. Um. And that that
Speaker 1: also kind of drove me away from some of the
Speaker 1: other two guys too, because take and OZ did um.
Speaker 1: Now that being said, you know, and and and I
Speaker 1: think we've discussed this before. Um, you know, we lost
Speaker 1: our clearances, our security clinics were actually pulled or suspended.
Speaker 1: When all of them not just my my A I S.
Speaker 1: S A which is the agency one, but also my
Speaker 1: d O D in my state department one, we're all
Speaker 1: suspended or pulled. And uh, and and we can't find
Speaker 1: out why. There's some report there that somebody wrote me
Speaker 1: for some in subordination that I never saw there, you know,
Speaker 1: you know how that I was hoping that well, you know,
Speaker 1: but I was hoping he would. Yeah, that's one thing
Speaker 1: I wish the Trump administration would do, is help's good
Speaker 1: A clearances back. But to answer your question, you know,
Speaker 1: I never have and and you don't expect to thank you.
Speaker 1: Would it have been the gentlemanly thing to do. Sure,
Speaker 1: if I'm going to get it from a politician, No,
Speaker 1: I don't foresee it. So that's how it is. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, along with the clearances, you know, there's a
Speaker 1: ton of technicalities and that. You know, you guys got
Speaker 1: to be brief within twenty four months, and you know,
Speaker 1: and on top of that, you know you got that
Speaker 1: one freaking individual that's probably super left and you know
Speaker 1: he's you know how easy it is to pull the clearance.
Speaker 1: You know, you get that letter of no confidence or
Speaker 1: something crap like that, and you know, you know it's
Speaker 1: all that technicality. But you know, if the administration really
Speaker 1: gave two damns about you guys, and if you guys
Speaker 1: needed the clearances and wanted to go back over seasons
Speaker 1: your job, I'm sure you guys can ask for it.
Speaker 1: But you guys, you're you're on a different level. Now,
Speaker 1: let's be honest. You're Christnto Toronto dude. But you know
Speaker 1: what brother by saying, I'm glad you brought it up.
Speaker 1: If I have the SF associate, people within this association
Speaker 1: are trying to help me out. People with it with it.
Speaker 1: But what do you need your clearance for? Let's be
Speaker 1: on what do you I don't see you contracting again?
Speaker 1: You want to? I hurg you up, man, I'll try.
Speaker 1: You can just recruiters if you can, If you can,
Speaker 1: If you can't, I do Oh, I'd rather bring you
Speaker 1: on full time and soft wrap. Man, we'll get your
Speaker 1: money that way. Bro. You know you don't need to
Speaker 1: go back out there. Your kids don't need that crap. Man.
Speaker 1: You know, the thing is that it's not the I'm
Speaker 1: doing fine. I lived it within well below in my means,
Speaker 1: which I'm still. I don't stand in your extra thing.
Speaker 1: I just I just miss it. But you know what,
Speaker 1: I have to be realistic. I still it would be
Speaker 1: hard for me to find the time to do it
Speaker 1: because I'm still bigger. Because hell and your brother, you're
Speaker 1: doing brother, you know, just don't even worry about that.
Speaker 1: You don't want to work for those pricks anyway. I
Speaker 1: don't ever want to work for them either, you know whatever.
Speaker 1: You know, I'll find myself maybe ten years from now,
Speaker 1: you know, for fifty or some shap you know, at
Speaker 1: a gate somewhere. You're working to drop arm, you know whatever.
Speaker 1: You know. But can I say now that what you're doing,
Speaker 1: I think it's a natural progression, natural transition. You're doing
Speaker 1: the training now, the training is what I think. It's
Speaker 1: freaking awesome because it's you. It's boon right, you know,
Speaker 1: you guys, what what is it that you guys are
Speaker 1: concentrating on. What are the disciplines you guys are training in?
Speaker 1: First off, what's the name of the company. Let us
Speaker 1: know the deeps of the Yeah, the name. The name
Speaker 1: of the company is called battle Line. And people about
Speaker 1: even booing that like battle line, what's battle I'll be
Speaker 1: honest with people as to say, you know, it doesn't
Speaker 1: mean anything. The only reason I picked battle Line is
Speaker 1: because every damn domain name has been taking from every
Speaker 1: Tom Dick and Harry YouTube training instructor out there I
Speaker 1: could find. It's like, let's try to look at FLb.
Speaker 1: I try to look at you know, uh, try to
Speaker 1: look at uh your personal protective Specialists or something. I'm
Speaker 1: just something that everything is out there. So that was
Speaker 1: like the only thing I could find that was have decent.
Speaker 1: So like we picked it, um but it looked cool,
Speaker 1: like a ranger tab on our on our monitor, so
Speaker 1: I was like on our on our emblem, our our
Speaker 1: insigniets like, well, he's batt alife buon and now and
Speaker 1: now people people don't don't realize it's it's Boon and
Speaker 1: I had done a little bit before, but because he's
Speaker 1: just a little bit him and I had been contracting
Speaker 1: or training contractors and agency personnel and government and government
Speaker 1: personnel and military and law enforcement in between our our
Speaker 1: deployment since since two thousand three and then of course
Speaker 1: our military time. He was a marine and me being
Speaker 1: around a ranger um for for eight years before we
Speaker 1: were indented, before before we even started contracting, so we
Speaker 1: had been training embtting people doing our jobs for years
Speaker 1: and was also a SWAT officer. He's gonna as SWAT
Speaker 1: officer as well. So honestly we thought looked at each
Speaker 1: other last year and we're like, why are we not
Speaker 1: doing our own training company? What are we doing? This
Speaker 1: is like a like like a duh, like a Homer
Speaker 1: Simpson hit yourself in the head. And so we we
Speaker 1: did it. We decided to start doing it. We've had
Speaker 1: it going a couple of months. Um. We have a
Speaker 1: couple of training sites that we use primarily, but we travel.
Speaker 1: But one is in a Big three East in the
Speaker 1: Land Florida which is upside Daytona, and ones at eighty
Speaker 1: A Tactical in Omaha. That's are two main areas, but
Speaker 1: we again we travel. We have something coming up in Homestead,
Speaker 1: which is down by Miami here and then we have.
Speaker 1: We just got back from Dallas, do another training there.
Speaker 1: But to to answer question, what disciplines we do everything.
Speaker 1: We'll do anything from the basic pistol to to counter tourism,
Speaker 1: which we call individual protective measures, which is basically kind
Speaker 1: of taking you the GRS ways but teaching it, teaching
Speaker 1: some of the some of the UH from the individual
Speaker 1: protector mayorgure you can do which includes driving, which includes UH,
Speaker 1: which includes UH, hostage rescuer could say, but little bit
Speaker 1: water more water down for the civilians. Um. But we
Speaker 1: also do advanced pistol. We do it defensive, defensive, concealed pistol.
Speaker 1: We do car being, we do advanced carving, pistol, car being,
Speaker 1: I mean anything that we have trained or worked on,
Speaker 1: which is what we think can we do it. Do
Speaker 1: you think the clearance situation would hinder you guys going
Speaker 1: forth in this new venture for say, maybe bidding on
Speaker 1: g s A contracts and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: will it will. And that's that's why we deaf because
Speaker 1: he lost his. It wasn't just me. Everybody on the
Speaker 1: team lost their clarences. He he doesn't have his either.
Speaker 1: That's why it really is important to me. I'm being selfish.
Speaker 1: I wanted because that's why I ever wanted to go back.
Speaker 1: I could, but you're exactly right, brother, we can't bid
Speaker 1: on those contracts and that's where the money is. By
Speaker 1: the way, when when Chris says like that, it was
Speaker 1: a no brainer to go into this tactical training and everything.
Speaker 1: I can tell you just from experience walking around with
Speaker 1: Chris a shot show, Chris gets mobbed. He's like the
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's Shot show. So when you think of the
Speaker 1: amount of civilians who want to be trained by this guy, like,
Speaker 1: I agree it. So Chris has a bobble head, all right,
Speaker 1: bubble that's cool. You know what, I think it's awesome.
Speaker 1: You know what's beautiful with the training thing is not
Speaker 1: that I get to go doing that. I'd love doing it,
Speaker 1: but I get it. I get to hang out with
Speaker 1: Boone again. We're getting like work at We worked as
Speaker 1: a team at Blacker Water since two thousand three up
Speaker 1: in two socks, two agency direct contracts. He was a
Speaker 1: dying Corps before that, for instance. I do so so
Speaker 1: getting to hang out together is awesome a getting and
Speaker 1: he's a brilliant instructor, so having both of us there
Speaker 1: you know, and people it's just they and they get
Speaker 1: to see the manners. What they see in the movie
Speaker 1: is exactly how we are, and this is how we are,
Speaker 1: and they get like, holy crap, I didn't know you
Speaker 1: guys were exactly like that. You're a jackass. He's perfective. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Four our contractor listeners. You know, I got to represent
Speaker 1: from my guys. You've mentioned a lot of the top
Speaker 1: companies out there, and me, I'm I'm partial to dine Core.
Speaker 1: I mean, they looked out for the guys, they never underbid.
Speaker 1: Which were your for? Which were your best companies to
Speaker 1: work for? You know, I dine Core. I Will started
Speaker 1: at black Water and of course that's come on so
Speaker 1: when yeah, b W, but I was you know, I
Speaker 1: got there early when there was it was really small.
Speaker 1: It was fantastic because it felt like it felt like
Speaker 1: a little special operations team because it was just a
Speaker 1: few people there. Now it's a small straw sea that
Speaker 1: it is. But but you know, at the beginning, I
Speaker 1: would say, out of all of them I've worked for,
Speaker 1: I would say early black Water was my favorite. Nice
Speaker 1: because a lot of guys, I mean, ship I don't
Speaker 1: see no one getting dine Core tattoos, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, But you know what I love it
Speaker 1: is that when we got and that's what I loved
Speaker 1: about Dyne Cort too. It's we got to iraq um
Speaker 1: Us and dine Court. We were on the new it
Speaker 1: was State. It wasn't called the Whips contractor, wasn't called
Speaker 1: the State Department contract It was called like a high
Speaker 1: threat contractor. And we actually had believe and I know you,
Speaker 1: I know you believe it. I think you had like
Speaker 1: all the teams and all that ship. You know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was crazy back then. And I used
Speaker 1: to hear stories from back then and dudes are fucking
Speaker 1: like I couldn't believed that was like the same company.
Speaker 1: Some of them are working for Whips, you know, working
Speaker 1: for you know, d os. It's like ridiculous. We had
Speaker 1: to trade weapons, brother, we didn't have enough rifles to
Speaker 1: go around. The team would go out to a run
Speaker 1: and they would come back in US and dine Core
Speaker 1: had a partner together because we didn't have enough equipments.
Speaker 1: So a team would have to take their vehicles out
Speaker 1: and take the weapons out, and then the other team
Speaker 1: went have to schedule their run to go do whatever
Speaker 1: they're going to do for a team to come back
Speaker 1: so we could get their gear. We didn't have enough
Speaker 1: rifles and enough bullets and enough had enough of vehicles.
Speaker 1: So we work can in hand with Dine Court was
Speaker 1: Earli years and it was fun. There was you couldn't
Speaker 1: even tell the difference it was it was black or
Speaker 1: back or I don't know. We're just we're all running
Speaker 1: together because we didn't have enough people. It was awesome,
Speaker 1: so fun, so fun. Um Osan Hunter was a good group.
Speaker 1: I worked with them for a while doing the training
Speaker 1: UM doing the training overseas, the FID type training before
Speaker 1: an internal defense type training for contracts UM. It was
Speaker 1: started by a guy named Danny Garrett, who was the
Speaker 1: original Global Response staff team. We're fantastic guy. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you how this guy, this guy, he's the owner
Speaker 1: of the company, and we're out at the farm doing
Speaker 1: We had to do some basic qualification just to check
Speaker 1: the box stuff, which is it was easy. Well, this
Speaker 1: guy comes out and starts shooting next to me, and
Speaker 1: it's Danny Garrett. I didn't know. I didn't know it
Speaker 1: was Danny because he got his hat hold low and
Speaker 1: and he's like, hey, where's just shooting the ship out there?
Speaker 1: And I looked at like, a wait a second, Danny.
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, what did you do? Are you're
Speaker 1: doing out here with us? You own a company? Dad,
Speaker 1: he's actor, just one of the dudes, just shoot with us.
Speaker 1: And he's just still Danny. Still the jars they were fantastic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: some guys just miss it, you know. And I come
Speaker 1: home for a few months and you know, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to like, you know, cement myself here, but you know,
Speaker 1: you missed the camaraderie, you missed the danger of the adrenaline.
Speaker 1: And even then most of the time it's like it's
Speaker 1: so boring, you know, but he's still in the potential
Speaker 1: of ship popping off. So I mean, it's that's addictive.
Speaker 1: That's how it always. It's ten percent excitement sitting around
Speaker 1: reading or playing Xbox, yeah, or going to the gym.
Speaker 1: But that ten percent, though, that's what That's what I
Speaker 1: got a question because you're such a public figure now
Speaker 1: and and not you know, I'm not gonna say yeah,
Speaker 1: but you are, you know, and have you ever been
Speaker 1: do you think you've been like somewhat like see ied
Speaker 1: or you know, someone trying to subvert you or something
Speaker 1: like that, trying to like get into your circle and
Speaker 1: you know, trying to work information out of you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty protective now with myself. Initially that first year, um,
Speaker 1: and I think when I said to some of another
Speaker 1: interview is that I did I did the little Rocks
Speaker 1: thing I was out for. I was newly divorced. I was,
Speaker 1: I was, I go lie, I was. It was it
Speaker 1: was madness, drinking too much, too much, too much debauchery. Yeah,
Speaker 1: too much debauchery. Um, and it helps being all that
Speaker 1: remains music video. Yeah, that that was filed. My goodness,
Speaker 1: he still giggles over that. Did you hear that gig?
Speaker 1: It's a great It's crazy. It's crazy when Killer giggles.
Speaker 1: That's not like over my lord. But then I was
Speaker 1: I was getting too careless, and then people were actually
Speaker 1: coming in and you know people, you know, it's weird,
Speaker 1: wanting just just I didn't feel safe with myself. I
Speaker 1: felt too relaxed. I was too uh. People were asking
Speaker 1: me questions are coming in, and like I just just
Speaker 1: felt like I was getting used, used a little bit,
Speaker 1: but also used with just myself and information. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I just it just I was not in control. Um.
Speaker 1: I can't think of really giving a specific example of yeah,
Speaker 1: this guy know I was trying to this girl, this
Speaker 1: lady was trying to All I know is that I
Speaker 1: went back, like now, I went look into my show.
Speaker 1: So when I'm on the road now, brother, Like, now
Speaker 1: I'm on the road, I'm going to the gym, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go work at work down here, and then I'll
Speaker 1: go to bed. I already know that, by the way,
Speaker 1: because when I was at a shot show in Vegas,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm working out with Alex, the friend of the show. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, cool check, and all of a sudden the
Speaker 1: Seetato working out next to me. Yeah, we're downstairs. And
Speaker 1: that's that's what I do. I even my own party.
Speaker 1: I had a potter A party the Fantastic Girls, the
Speaker 1: Bullets and Bomb shows, friends with friends with some of them, Um,
Speaker 1: but the lady that owns them. Let's let's throw you
Speaker 1: a party at the at the at the Bellaggio with
Speaker 1: the women of the clubs there. Brother, I didn't even
Speaker 1: want to go to my own party, but it was great.
Speaker 1: I loved that. I love that they that they were
Speaker 1: willing to do it. And Leah is a sweetheart. Leah
Speaker 1: verdic at the Bolson Bomb shows and they have great people.
Speaker 1: Jamie Villamore is over there. Um you know, Annapolina's over there.
Speaker 1: You know the great, great girls. But it's just not me.
Speaker 1: And that's when I started to say, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: losing control. I gotta I gotta pull back. This is
Speaker 1: getting a little bit crazy. Chris, how does it feel
Speaker 1: to have fucking aps? Bro? I'mbly I got it constantly.
Speaker 1: I'm forty six. Now I gotta go work out as
Speaker 1: it's crazy. I'm thirty six, and I got like, that's
Speaker 1: because you're in New York City, Dude, Holy crap, you
Speaker 1: can eat all the time, eating best food in the
Speaker 1: world is in New York City. I hate the city,
Speaker 1: but I do come back for two days to eat
Speaker 1: just and then get out of there again. Chris is
Speaker 1: like honorary New Yorker with the amount of media that
Speaker 1: you do. Man. But it's what you asked about him
Speaker 1: hitting the gym. I mean, if he wants to be
Speaker 1: shirtless on the cover of Gun magazine, you gotta do
Speaker 1: what you gotta do. But also, you know what, hit
Speaker 1: me up, I'll be scared of oh ship, give me four.
Speaker 1: Before we let Chris go, I did see that will
Speaker 1: Cow was breaking your balls, and he was like, could
Speaker 1: could someone tell Chris Farranto to put a shirt on?
Speaker 1: And they were like, I saw like a hundred replies
Speaker 1: from women to will Cow being like, no, Tonto could
Speaker 1: keep his shirt off of all he once. So I
Speaker 1: think we'll tell you a little bit jealous man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you tell will count it could being so jealous of
Speaker 1: the Tonto. I'm gonna come back on this show. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell them ing veterans, tell them they're not veterans.
Speaker 1: Day ride. Yeah, I'm like, i gotta get hit. He
Speaker 1: gotta hit the gym, big man. Yeah, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go do these apps because you are right right,
Speaker 1: I gotta go. I have to like that, like that
Speaker 1: picture on the Ballistic, It's gonna be on. I'll be
Speaker 1: honest with you. When he I had just got off
Speaker 1: a plane and I went and and don't don't be
Speaker 1: don't be mad at me. I had actually just eaaten
Speaker 1: the whole thing in nachos before that. I don't die
Speaker 1: like pre workouts, like pre workout chicken wings. Just just
Speaker 1: go run it off, man, keep running. You can eat
Speaker 1: whatever you want if you run all the time. That's
Speaker 1: all you gotta do. So I got one more. I
Speaker 1: got one more. Now that you know, you've got you know,
Speaker 1: me and guys like Andrew and all those you know,
Speaker 1: like out of now that you are in the light,
Speaker 1: out of all the famous people you met, who were
Speaker 1: the ones that stood out to you that you said, Damn,
Speaker 1: this dude's an awesome individual, like you know, and just
Speaker 1: one you know whoever the biggest, well my my biggest
Speaker 1: and I'll be honesome. I'll always be like this because
Speaker 1: he treated me right when when I, you know, just
Speaker 1: was just me, which I wish I could be just
Speaker 1: me again. Um, but was Pablo Schreiber guy played me
Speaker 1: in the movie. He is just an absolute individual, just
Speaker 1: the nicest, coolest guy ever and what was and he was.
Speaker 1: He's still so respectful to me. And even though we
Speaker 1: have different political differences, we do not let it that
Speaker 1: affect our friendship. And we have a friendship. And and
Speaker 1: he's showed me that that the Hollywood stereotype is not
Speaker 1: all Hollywood people follow that stereotype. He's just a normal
Speaker 1: good dad to his kids that work, and he works hard.
Speaker 1: That's what I you know, and I know you guys
Speaker 1: say the same way, you may not. I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't like the Hollywood, believe this. I don't like the actors,
Speaker 1: and I was the ones that think they're above bills
Speaker 1: because they act because they pretend to be somebody they're not.
Speaker 1: But I do admire somebody who puts effort into their
Speaker 1: trade craft and works hard at their trade craft to
Speaker 1: excel whatever it is. And he did. He he worked
Speaker 1: just as hard as being Taunto and whatever else. He
Speaker 1: immerses himself, because I've been on set a couple of
Speaker 1: times with him, just I just come in and for
Speaker 1: it nearby and I'll have lunch of them. He immerses
Speaker 1: himself and learns everything he can about what he needs
Speaker 1: to do to be to be that person, but he
Speaker 1: doesn't come get out when he gets out of it said,
Speaker 1: He doesn't come to and feel like these huge elitist
Speaker 1: actors like this is my job, this is what I
Speaker 1: need to do, and I'm gonna bust my ball to
Speaker 1: do it fantastic. But when it's over, I'm just Pablo again,
Speaker 1: you know, like that, I don't know what I took
Speaker 1: from from his performance and I didn't know you. I
Speaker 1: don't know you. You know, and what I took from
Speaker 1: his performances, You're that fucking guy. You're the fucking light.
Speaker 1: You're the fucking start of the party. He's the clown
Speaker 1: of the show. You're the one who always brings the
Speaker 1: happiness to the party. Man, is that you? Is that?
Speaker 1: That's what I got? That's that's me. Man. He nailed
Speaker 1: because him and him and I got to hang out
Speaker 1: a lot. I would even just via social media, even
Speaker 1: just skyping. Even because he got picked. He was him
Speaker 1: in Krasinski were the first two picked. And when when
Speaker 1: they were picked, I hit him up that day on Twitter.
Speaker 1: I like, actually remember I hit him up on Twitter.
Speaker 1: I said, hey, you're going to be a ranger and
Speaker 1: he was playing porn stash and Orange New Blacks, all
Speaker 1: fat and front me and I hit him up on Twitter.
Speaker 1: I said, you better start doing sit up and push
Speaker 1: ups because you ain't playing no fatass the Tonto on
Speaker 1: the Green And he hit me right back on Twitter,
Speaker 1: like thirty seconds later. He says, rock down, Bart and
Speaker 1: he says, there's no way I'm gonna start doing push
Speaker 1: ups to the right and look at him now, he's
Speaker 1: freaking oaked. He's Jack. He's still Jack. You think you
Speaker 1: think brushed off on him, you think he changed some
Speaker 1: of his I think that. I think I think he
Speaker 1: enjoys being because he's already he's got a huge framework
Speaker 1: as ready he's he enjoys being that defensive in he's been,
Speaker 1: and I think he does, honestly. I just I'm just
Speaker 1: looking at him, like he feels better. You know, you
Speaker 1: always feel better when you're when you're in shape, and
Speaker 1: and and I think he does. But but the things
Speaker 1: he got the personality down, But you know what that
Speaker 1: helped because he already kind of has that same personality
Speaker 1: I do. Anyway, he's already kind of a jackass off
Speaker 1: the screens, so it wasn't a large stretch to play Tono.
Speaker 1: And he's already you know, he's disrespectful, authority, smartass, but confident.
Speaker 1: He kind of already has those those traits. So it
Speaker 1: was just applying them to putting Tono in. And I
Speaker 1: all this success feeling to call it success, brother, I
Speaker 1: don't like to call it sex. So I think it is.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just spotlight. All that is attributed because
Speaker 1: of his performance of me because people and then people
Speaker 1: come and see always you arlett a guy in the movie.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, because he got the character. He got me right,
Speaker 1: because he was willing to learn and listen to me
Speaker 1: and and get my manners and down, and was willing
Speaker 1: to be me. And that that that still that still
Speaker 1: touches touches my heart. Strange, man, it's just a little bit.
Speaker 1: It's still vix and Pilki. So he's fantastic. Another guy
Speaker 1: is Sean Hannity. Great, great guy, great guy. Off screen. Um,
Speaker 1: you should see us banter and just just cuss each
Speaker 1: other up and down and make fun of each other
Speaker 1: when it sets not rolling, it's it's hilarious. In fact,
Speaker 1: the first thing I do when I walk in on
Speaker 1: his radio show, because I walk in the room, I
Speaker 1: just given the bird you as whole here take this
Speaker 1: and he said, many people could see you do that.
Speaker 1: We'll take a picture of it. And you know, he
Speaker 1: always tries to choke me out because he thinks he's
Speaker 1: this big m m M a fighter. Now I like it.
Speaker 1: I love it because I liked him. Now after this story,
Speaker 1: I love him. He's awesome, dude, you love he should
Speaker 1: be a instructure worker. That's funny the same And I've
Speaker 1: heard all good things about the guy, even from liberals.
Speaker 1: You know, we just had Rick Hunger and here as
Speaker 1: a friend of Hannity. But anyway, the book, the book
Speaker 1: is the Ranger Way, living the code on and off
Speaker 1: the battlefield. We will let you get back to dad
Speaker 1: time or whatever it is or working out. But is
Speaker 1: there is there anything else you're promoting before we let
Speaker 1: you go? Man? You know, you know, getting a battle
Speaker 1: on with me and Boone. The training would really love
Speaker 1: the training and Bloe it's it's done well. We've had
Speaker 1: in two months, We've had six courses already. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I know, and honestly the training aspect of it, it
Speaker 1: would be great. So people, I know, two eighteen it's
Speaker 1: gonna be we'll have solid schedule. This is we're just
Speaker 1: kind of getting it rolling together. But we've already got
Speaker 1: some good sponsors on our on our table of course,
Speaker 1: Max and Defense fantastic sponsor. Fan. Do you need any hey,
Speaker 1: I gotta send you guys. I gotta, I gotta. I
Speaker 1: think I have an extra butt stuck whoever, as in
Speaker 1: their fifteen there in New York City. I got friends
Speaker 1: I got fritten, I got friends, I got NYPD guys
Speaker 1: that were ex marines, you know, not you know marines, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, and I'll take custody of it. So, so
Speaker 1: for people who want to train with you, what's the website, Chris,
Speaker 1: well again battle Line right now? Go to my my website,
Speaker 1: the Chris Tonto Toronto dot com and the schedules up there,
Speaker 1: but also shows my speaking schedule and all that other
Speaker 1: good stuff merchandise and all that that you have. And
Speaker 1: then battle Line we have our on Facebook page. I
Speaker 1: am actually building our website right now, and you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes if you want to do it right, it takes
Speaker 1: takes time, and I'm a stickler. So the website will
Speaker 1: be up in two thousand and eighteen when the company
Speaker 1: officially kicks off. But the training schedule and the training
Speaker 1: areas that we're in that locations are all on my
Speaker 1: website and battle Line Facebook page and my public Facebook
Speaker 1: page as well, you're you know, and you know, Instagram
Speaker 1: and everywhere else that I have a I have a
Speaker 1: social media follow, yes, sir, which is Chris Paranto at
Speaker 1: Chris Parronto on Twitter at Chris Underscore Parronto Underscore Tonto
Speaker 1: on Instagram. Yeah, yeah, so hit you up on there,
Speaker 1: you know, for all of our listeners who want to
Speaker 1: check out what you're up to. You know, honestly, man,
Speaker 1: I know you're not too big to ever come on here,
Speaker 1: but I appreciate you making the time because this has
Speaker 1: to be a huge week for you, being that you know,
Speaker 1: there hasn't been any big update on Benghazi and then
Speaker 1: we hear this news. So I even felt like I
Speaker 1: was being a bit of a new Sance hitting you
Speaker 1: up this week. So I I really appreciate you making
Speaker 1: the time, Chris, You're always solid, guys. I appreciate right,
Speaker 1: and when we find out what this guy actually knows,
Speaker 1: we'll have me back on. But right now, let's just hey, god, um,
Speaker 1: let's let's find out. Let's not jump the gun and
Speaker 1: say this is the mastermind like the administration did. Sit
Speaker 1: on it. Okay, let's interrogate and find out and then
Speaker 1: we'll come back on the show and I can talk
Speaker 1: a little bit more about it if you guys are
Speaker 1: having me on of course any time. And thank you, sir,
Speaker 1: it's been and not earn a pleasure. Thank you for
Speaker 1: coming on. Brothers. You guys are awesome. Appreciate it, dude.
Speaker 1: Solid interview with Chris Man. I love Chris and and
Speaker 1: that is a real story that we saw him. I
Speaker 1: saw him at the gym uh at Shot show, so
Speaker 1: I mean he's constantly working out, constantly his broke ball
Speaker 1: is broken for being shirtless and music videos and on magazines,
Speaker 1: but it's not working on my abs. Man. I think
Speaker 1: more opportunities come down the pipe when you got abs.
Speaker 1: I know it well, Chris is not you know, he's ripped,
Speaker 1: but he's not like a big dude like yourself, even
Speaker 1: though you lost, you're a pretty big dude. You and
Speaker 1: you and Nick Irving are definitely in the you know
Speaker 1: not you know, I'm sure, but you're in the big
Speaker 1: wide category normal and my normal weight. I'm to tend
Speaker 1: to something Yetah for people haven't seen Jason, I mean
Speaker 1: like you've got giant arms, you're big dude blushing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know what's funny is is uh, Brandon was actually
Speaker 1: breaking my balls this morning because because I mentioned on
Speaker 1: the podcast about getting in a conversation with someone in
Speaker 1: the sauna and it was like, why are you getting
Speaker 1: It's nothing talk time. You have the most deep conversations
Speaker 1: no homo at all. Yeah, you gotta say no homo.
Speaker 1: That's how you started. But and even if it was homo,
Speaker 1: I don't care. You know, that's what you like, it's
Speaker 1: what you like. But what I'm saying is the most
Speaker 1: politically driven conversations happened in the damn sauna. If you
Speaker 1: don't believe you go to any gym and go to
Speaker 1: the sauna and you'll be sweat And you know what,
Speaker 1: it is a perfect point because they say you have
Speaker 1: that one guy that's always louder than everyone else, which
Speaker 1: is probably you. Always. You're not gonna last that long
Speaker 1: because of the heat is kicking your ass. So eventually
Speaker 1: you're gonna shut the funk up and listen to what
Speaker 1: the other guy has to say. Sometimes the conversation leaves
Speaker 1: you in there longer than you expected. You know. The
Speaker 1: reason I brought it up on the Power of thought
Speaker 1: was some kid was in there. It was like twenty
Speaker 1: years old, talking about entrepreneurship and all that. You know,
Speaker 1: I know, very random conversation have there, but like this
Speaker 1: interests me. Start talking to him and some other kid
Speaker 1: you can tell is very dismissive, was like a son
Speaker 1: because the Athletic Club, which I don't want to talk
Speaker 1: to Wall Street people. I've been in a this is
Speaker 1: such a funny conversation, been in a steam room with him,
Speaker 1: because I did work out with Brandon a couple of
Speaker 1: times at New York Athletic Club. But like I said,
Speaker 1: it's all like Wall Street people there. It's not there's
Speaker 1: like whipping him with like branches and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: He's not going to be in there. Yeah. So so
Speaker 1: this this younger kid was kind of like dismissive of
Speaker 1: the entrepreneurship thing, and he said, I don't think there's
Speaker 1: ever gonna be another Apple or Steve Jobs. And immediately
Speaker 1: what came to my mind was that if that's your attitude,
Speaker 1: then I could promise you you'll never be the next
Speaker 1: Steve Jobs next time. I didn't say that deep. I
Speaker 1: didn't that was deep. But what you just said, that's
Speaker 1: fucking deep. You know. But when someone says I couldn't
Speaker 1: do this, you're correct, you know what I mean? If
Speaker 1: your attitude is that you can't do this, like I'm
Speaker 1: sure when you went in to be a Marine Scott sniper,
Speaker 1: your attitude was I'm gonna fucking do this. My attitude
Speaker 1: has always been. It has always been if another man
Speaker 1: could do it, I could fucking do it. That's what
Speaker 1: my attitude you have. But I I also acknowledge that
Speaker 1: there's a certain finesse and artistry involved in a mastery
Speaker 1: of something. So if you are a master at it,
Speaker 1: there's a style that you put into the actual physical
Speaker 1: task of it. So I acknowledge that. So I'm not
Speaker 1: going to try to fucking wire my entire house electrically,
Speaker 1: but I can if I have to. It's not gonna
Speaker 1: be the greatest fucking job in the world, but I can.
Speaker 1: But if I want it done with that fanesse, with
Speaker 1: that cleansing, cleansiness, you know that that that that just
Speaker 1: smooth overall appearance, I'm going to go to a master,
Speaker 1: you know. So that's what But when he said that
Speaker 1: to the other thing I was thinking is you know
Speaker 1: that when Steve Jobs said I'm gonna start this company
Speaker 1: called Apple, I guarantee people after him and said, like,
Speaker 1: there's never gonna be a company bigger than Xerox. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, because that was a big company
Speaker 1: at the time. And I even remember, and you do too,
Speaker 1: because you're a few years older. Than me. I remember
Speaker 1: in a history class, a teacher, Uh, we're having a
Speaker 1: whole conversation about monopolies, and he was like, you know,
Speaker 1: for example, in today's society, Microsoft's monopoly, Apple was never
Speaker 1: going to be able to compete because this was the
Speaker 1: time when Apple had those stupid ass computers that had
Speaker 1: remember the colors in the back that no one was buying.
Speaker 1: But it's like, people don't have the foresight to see, well,
Speaker 1: they're going to create this thing called the iPhone and
Speaker 1: the iPad, and actually it was the iPod that they
Speaker 1: were and at that time was competing with that very product,
Speaker 1: and I think the board members of that time didn't
Speaker 1: want to put effort of money into the iPod, and
Speaker 1: it was actually Steve Jobs that was pushing it along.
Speaker 1: That's my point, revolutionized the world. You never know what
Speaker 1: the next big thing is going to be. And to
Speaker 1: be dismissive and say, oh, there's there's not gonna be
Speaker 1: another next big limited mentality. You have limited mentality than
Speaker 1: your sheep brother. So I guess, um, wrapping up. You know,
Speaker 1: we said we'll wrap up the Moss conversation. Um the
Speaker 1: last thing to mention about it, because we got into
Speaker 1: the surveillance stuff. Was that you said, Um, you heard
Speaker 1: the speech of Governor Cuomo using it to attack gun right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what was I mean? So, I'm in New Yorker, so
Speaker 1: you know, and and I was telling Ian before we
Speaker 1: got on. You know, I'm I'm pretty up to speed
Speaker 1: on a lot of a lot of what's in the
Speaker 1: news because I wake up at zero six every day.
Speaker 1: I have no choice. I can't. I cannot sleep any
Speaker 1: later than that. I just I'm institutionalized. I am. But
Speaker 1: you know it doesn't bother me anymore, you know. So
Speaker 1: I wake up at zero six every day. I'll make
Speaker 1: my black coffee. I'll sit on my fucking couch, even
Speaker 1: if it's for an hour, and I will watch the
Speaker 1: news and I'll go back and forth. So I I
Speaker 1: hear all the public addressing addresses that or I've heard
Speaker 1: the public addresses that were done in reference to this
Speaker 1: recent terrorist attack through um you know, a mere de
Speaker 1: Blasio and Governor Cuomo and and it's just it's almost
Speaker 1: nauseating the liberal rhetoric coming out of their freaking mouths.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like, all right, I get it.
Speaker 1: I hear your political affiliation. I understand what to throw
Speaker 1: this out there when it's nothing to do so anyway,
Speaker 1: so his he he threw out an attack on the
Speaker 1: Second Amendment when this situation had nothing to do with
Speaker 1: the Second Amendment. This guy came out with like freaking
Speaker 1: baby guns or paintball guns like. So he attacked the
Speaker 1: Second Amendment in response to Trump's attack on the whole
Speaker 1: diversity visa crap. And Trump was talking about disbanding that
Speaker 1: or stopping it immediately. And the first thing Cuomo said was,
Speaker 1: we need to focus more on the heinous gun laws
Speaker 1: in this country. Like, Bro, you're at a podium, a
Speaker 1: resting New Yorkers on an incident that occurred in downtown
Speaker 1: Manhattan with a vehicle and uh, you know violent, you know,
Speaker 1: you know Islamic extremists and you know no weapons were utilized.
Speaker 1: I mean I think you won. Bro. You're in New
Speaker 1: York and the only thing this freaking guy could get
Speaker 1: his hands on was a payball gunna a bab You
Speaker 1: fucking won. Bro. You want why are you still fucking
Speaker 1: using the Second Amendment as some type of fucking bullet
Speaker 1: to attack President Trump or his is his cabinet? You know,
Speaker 1: my whole thing is like that that goes against that's
Speaker 1: contradictory to what you know you're setting out to do.
Speaker 1: Because this had nothing to do with the Second Amendment,
Speaker 1: and yet it's still occurred. You understand what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to say, like, let's let's keep focused on what happened
Speaker 1: here and how can we mitigate it from happening again.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean this is what this is
Speaker 1: what politicians do if they have if they have an agenda,
Speaker 1: it doesn't even matter. Story is I feel like, um,
Speaker 1: last story I wanted to get to it's kind of
Speaker 1: a weird one, and was going around in the softwarep
Speaker 1: Writers group was the CIA releasing three twenty one gigabytes
Speaker 1: have been Laden's digital library. Uh, and here's what it included.
Speaker 1: I'll get to the list right here. I'm just skimming
Speaker 1: through this whole thing. And this is why it was
Speaker 1: just weird. A lot of children's movies and stuff. And
Speaker 1: as he said, I guessus been Widden had children. But
Speaker 1: you know the movie Ants, the movie Cars, Final Fantasy seven,
Speaker 1: Ice Age, Dawn of the Dinosaurs. Uh. He had National
Speaker 1: Geographic Predators at War, so some other stuff, um Peru civilization,
Speaker 1: resident Evil um, the Kremlin from inside, a documentary recorded
Speaker 1: from Alja z Era, The Three Musketeers, and of course
Speaker 1: a documentary about himself. Where in the world is Osama
Speaker 1: bin Laden? And uh, interesting stuff, man, I'm getting this
Speaker 1: actually from I'm not really familiar with this website, but
Speaker 1: I know we're passing around our Technic Arts Technica hopefully
Speaker 1: I'm saying that right a r S Technica dot com. Um. Interesting,
Speaker 1: and it's also one of the topics I've I've heard
Speaker 1: today and you know all the news outlets. Um, it's
Speaker 1: to me, it's no surprise if he has children, and
Speaker 1: he's a man of means, so he's gonna give his
Speaker 1: children obviously everything he possibly can. And you know we've
Speaker 1: seen this with Kim Jong Il and not just children
Speaker 1: because I don't know, I'm sure that guy doesn't have children,
Speaker 1: probably those who knows, but you know, he is a
Speaker 1: he is a big fan of Western culture, western movie
Speaker 1: with and the same denis exactly du playing basketball and
Speaker 1: all that crap. So the same goes for bin Laden.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's going to afford his children the best
Speaker 1: possible entertainment, which would be fucking Disney man. Hell yeah,
Speaker 1: so what the funny thing is like, I mean, you
Speaker 1: oppose Western culture, you oppose Western morals and ideologies, but
Speaker 1: you're showing your kids. Who knows, maybe it's not for
Speaker 1: his kids. That would be fucking really weird if it
Speaker 1: was for him, But you know, you're showing your kids,
Speaker 1: you know, cartoons that are you know ingrained in Western
Speaker 1: morals and culture. So it's it's so crazy how the
Speaker 1: very thing they love they despise, you know, And that's
Speaker 1: just to me, it's just it's more than just a coincidence.
Speaker 1: I don't know. And one of the interesting things when
Speaker 1: you look at his digital library is I feel like
Speaker 1: when we were sold this kind of build of goods
Speaker 1: um that Osam Bin Wadden was hiding in the caves
Speaker 1: and was not living a very um, you know, high
Speaker 1: profile now I shouldn't say high profile, but but just
Speaker 1: a good lifestyle in general. And he's watching these movies
Speaker 1: and his hard drive, like he was not suffering, but
Speaker 1: he had money. So you give me a fucking cave
Speaker 1: and some two by four, some dry walls and installation,
Speaker 1: and I would build a fucking house in that cave
Speaker 1: with rooms and doors and windows. If you television and power,
Speaker 1: I think told that he was like anything yet and
Speaker 1: the truth is, no, this is a man of means,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean he's a boss. Anybody that's a boss,
Speaker 1: anybody that's running anything, is obviously gonna enjoy some sort
Speaker 1: of creature comforts. Okay, So I mean it will be
Speaker 1: foolish to believe whatever pictures were, you know, or whatever
Speaker 1: portrayals were given to us in the media. You know,
Speaker 1: this guy was under a rock in the cave. Hell
Speaker 1: out of here, this guy when they raided him. I mean,
Speaker 1: what how big was his house when they raided him in? Uh?
Speaker 1: I don't remember, actually, you know which, by the way,
Speaker 1: we gotta get Rob O'Neil back on here. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you and I are talking about and Rob was great,
Speaker 1: And you know, despite the way everybody said, you know,
Speaker 1: all the fucking naysayers that you already know, I already
Speaker 1: experienced my own goddamn naysayers. But in the naysayers, Rob,
Speaker 1: you know, I never heard Rob speak before anything like
Speaker 1: that until the until the episode with you guys and
Speaker 1: Rob and Brandon, Rob and and when he was talking
Speaker 1: about the situation Asian man, he fucking hit it spot on,
Speaker 1: especially with the c QB and everything. And right then
Speaker 1: and there, I knew, man, this guy's a real fucking
Speaker 1: deal man, and he's such a humble fucking guy, Like, well,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna be a meat eater and be a
Speaker 1: fucking passive. You know. Here's what it here. The reason
Speaker 1: I say somewhat though, is I'm not gonna say no.
Speaker 1: I mean the way that someone put it to me
Speaker 1: of why people were so critical of rob Um. They
Speaker 1: said was the fact that he is a little bit
Speaker 1: of a cocky guy. You know, you see him on
Speaker 1: Instagram partying with Kid Rock and all the stuff. But
Speaker 1: here's the thing they were saying that the person told
Speaker 1: me this said, they believe there's people in Seal Team
Speaker 1: six that felt like he was kind of this boastful
Speaker 1: guy and and the attitude was like, man, why did
Speaker 1: he have to be the one to shoot in laden?
Speaker 1: And that was why I think people, Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's why some people were he was. And that goes
Speaker 1: to you know, one of my biggest because I almost
Speaker 1: feel like Chris, it is what it is. Chris and
Speaker 1: Nick come off as very humble guys. I don't know
Speaker 1: if humble is the word I'd used to describe Robin Yield,
Speaker 1: but he was for me. Yeah, he was certainly a
Speaker 1: very friendly guy. Man. I went into the studio with
Speaker 1: mixed feelings because of all the negativity I've heard about
Speaker 1: Rob and by the time I was done with that interview,
Speaker 1: I thought he was a really solid guy. That's honestly
Speaker 1: what I could say, and I would love to have
Speaker 1: him back on nothing bad. He nailed that interview, and
Speaker 1: I don't know he won me over in that interview.
Speaker 1: But what I want people to understand is the the
Speaker 1: typical job of someone who is in direct action, which
Speaker 1: is the door kicker, which is you know, the sniper,
Speaker 1: which is the demolition specialist, which you know, those guys
Speaker 1: that are in direct action, it takes a certain type
Speaker 1: of personality. And although there's those that pride themselves on
Speaker 1: being that silent professional, there's also those that would like
Speaker 1: the recognition to the fact it's a motherfucking fact that
Speaker 1: they're a badass motherfucker, you know what I mean. There's
Speaker 1: there's always so that's that's those are the personalities you're
Speaker 1: dealing with. So you know, I don't I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not disgusted by that. To me, it's just like bro
Speaker 1: this guy's a fucking killer, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: of course he had, he has room to boast. You know,
Speaker 1: who else is gonna say otherwise? And those that pride
Speaker 1: themselves to be silent professionals. Bro, that's cool. That's what
Speaker 1: you chose, that's your path in life. You chose to
Speaker 1: be quiet, you chose to play the background, that's what
Speaker 1: you chose. But don't hate on another individual that decided
Speaker 1: to say raise their Hannah say I'm sorry, but I
Speaker 1: shot that motherfucker. What I'm saying, like, you know, give
Speaker 1: him his credit. Yeah, there's just different. You know, one
Speaker 1: thing I've learned from doing this podcast is there's death
Speaker 1: the military and special operations. Guys are definitely not a monol.
Speaker 1: If everybody's got their own attitude and their own way
Speaker 1: of doing things. It's funny that there was a Terry
Speaker 1: Shepherd quote that he said about someone. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: say who, but Terry shopherd told some other guy's been
Speaker 1: on here be or not not on this podcast. I
Speaker 1: think it was like a background thing, and I think
Speaker 1: it was it was a joking around thing. I don't
Speaker 1: think he said this is a serious thing, but he
Speaker 1: was like as a Green Beret, I pride myself on
Speaker 1: being a quiet professional. You are neither quiet nor professional,
Speaker 1: and I just remember that. And I love Starry by
Speaker 1: the way, Well, if you never operated with the individual,
Speaker 1: you can't say if he was a professional or not quiet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can call it right then and there. You know,
Speaker 1: I give two funks, but professional. Like with me when
Speaker 1: I'm working, I'm professional when I'm teaching. I'm professional when
Speaker 1: I'm on this podcast, and I have to be I'll
Speaker 1: try to be professional as much as I can do.
Speaker 1: Sometimes some of the guests bring it out of me.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, you know what, I'm having fun.
Speaker 1: I'm not taking myself serious in this because I've taking
Speaker 1: myself serious for too long, so you know, I get it,
Speaker 1: you know. But doesn't mean that I can't be professional.
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean that I'm not a tactician, doesn't mean that
Speaker 1: I'm not technician. Doesn't mean that I nail whatever I
Speaker 1: set out to do just because I all it. Babe,
Speaker 1: Ruf used to fucking point to the goddamn you know,
Speaker 1: what do you call it? D Sky? What do you
Speaker 1: what else you gonna call that ship? He's goddamn oblivion
Speaker 1: and smack the ball at it. But no one takes
Speaker 1: away from fucking babe Bruce saying that he wasn't a
Speaker 1: quiet professional. You know, fun that it doesn't matter. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what your profession is. If you're confident and
Speaker 1: you know you're good, there's nothing wrong with saying it.
Speaker 1: But then again, to some people it is. That's fine
Speaker 1: to each of the alright, So wrapping things up, I
Speaker 1: loved having Chris Son here. I can't say it enough.
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Speaker 1: break out my bag right now. I got my flashlight,
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Speaker 1: I should also throw out there that I got the
Speaker 1: voice over. I don't even think you've heard it yet.
Speaker 1: I got the voice over, um that we're going to
Speaker 1: use with Jason Delgado's name and Jack's name. I'm still
Speaker 1: waiting on my friend to give me some original music
Speaker 1: we're gonna use, but I've decided I'm gonna unveil this
Speaker 1: on episode three hundreds. So on episode three hundred, you're
Speaker 1: gonna hear all this new imaging and I'm psyched for it.
Speaker 1: So it's just a few episodes of well do something
Speaker 1: nice for episode. Yeah, I'll well, the imaging is one thing.
Speaker 1: The imaging is part of it. Because I think people
Speaker 1: will hear this intro, they'll be like, that's a cool way, uh,
Speaker 1: because you know, I've been using the same one for
Speaker 1: a while. It's still our friend Kara O'Brien who does
Speaker 1: great voice over. Um, and that's really it. Are you
Speaker 1: plugging anything before we get out of here? Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 1: November ten, the Marine Corps fucking birthday. Urah, God bless
Speaker 1: us all God damn it. I'm gonna do a book
Speaker 1: signing at my tatt to shop one twenty Dykeman Street
Speaker 1: in New York, New York. Okay, Um, it's black audic
Speaker 1: tattoo shop. So just be there with your books if
Speaker 1: you want me to sign them. We're gonna have a
Speaker 1: few copies on hand, first come, first serve um for
Speaker 1: those of you guys in the New York area that
Speaker 1: have been asking me to sign the books. I'll be there. Man.
Speaker 1: I've been trying to, you know, work things out. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not a rich motherfucker, all right, that po box
Speaker 1: cost like for like three months. I ain't paying that ship.
Speaker 1: So you know, if you want me to sign your stuff,
Speaker 1: and you know you're in the New York area, swing
Speaker 1: by might come meet me. You know, I'm pretty cool
Speaker 1: down to earth. I'll sit you down right next to me.
Speaker 1: We'll have a conversation and all. Because that's this type
Speaker 1: of dude I am. I'm not the fucking dick that's
Speaker 1: gonna sign your book and send you away, like, don't
Speaker 1: come weird man, Come peace, and we're gonna have a
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Speaker 1: about it. Man. I've had a great week of shows
Speaker 1: with you this first week. Uh, I like doing the
Speaker 1: night shows. Today was just a long day for me
Speaker 1: because I did the Power of Thought as well. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: He's still shooting this. He's been all over I love Jack.
Speaker 1: I will be all right. He's Uh, you gotta keep
Speaker 1: in mind I haven't seen JACKO because yeah, I'm too loose,
Speaker 1: you know. Every now and then you gotta get really
Speaker 1: you know, do do do Walter Cronkite up in this motherfucker?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Jack is just's he's doing
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