Speaker 1: Of course, you're just seemed to see special ups, news
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Speaker 1: the first show with Jason Delgado, fresh off the success
Speaker 1: of Bounty Hunter four or three here as a full
Speaker 1: time host. Yeah, I'm pretty stoked, man, Like, I just
Speaker 1: want to tell the people out there in podcast land that,
Speaker 1: you know, I've got a lot of criticism on the
Speaker 1: way I do these things, but I've gotten both though
Speaker 1: I have, I've gotten praise and criticism too. But I
Speaker 1: just want to say that I am gonna take this serious. Alright.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take this serious, and I'm gonna do you
Speaker 1: guys justice. All right, thanks for giving me the shot, guys. Yeah. Hey,
Speaker 1: I'll be totally candid here and say that I remember
Speaker 1: when I first came on. It was brutal the amount
Speaker 1: of people who liked the host here before me. And
Speaker 1: I've gone to softwareup events since and people have come
Speaker 1: up to me and they've been like, hey, I wasn't
Speaker 1: your biggest van when you first came on board. I
Speaker 1: love what you do now, So you know, I think
Speaker 1: it's great to change some people's opinions but the reason
Speaker 1: we're even doing this is from the first time you
Speaker 1: were ever on the show, people really dug you as
Speaker 1: a guest. They were like Jason Tell's stories like no other, uh,
Speaker 1: And that's how the book came about. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think overwhelmingly the feedback is positive, but at the
Speaker 1: same time and constructive criticism. There's nothing in it. And
Speaker 1: you know, the way the way I live my life
Speaker 1: is I'm I'm forever a student, you know. I know,
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna sit here and say I know it
Speaker 1: all on any topic. You know, I'm always gonna be
Speaker 1: ears open to that criticism because as you take that advice,
Speaker 1: you get better. It's just it's steel sharpening steel, you know,
Speaker 1: especially when you you know, I face my critics, I
Speaker 1: faced my haters, you know what I mean. But I
Speaker 1: also take what they say with a grain of salt.
Speaker 1: Is what I'm saying. You know, obviously some of it
Speaker 1: is is negative and you know their derogatory, but you know,
Speaker 1: it's like that saying behind every joke is a bit
Speaker 1: of truth. So I kind of take what they're saying
Speaker 1: to me and I kind of analyze it and say,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe I can you know, be better in this,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I appreciate it. I
Speaker 1: appreciate the hate. Yeah. No, we all can though, because
Speaker 1: with me. One of the things too is uh people
Speaker 1: always ask me how long does it take to edit
Speaker 1: the show? I edit the whole thing in real time,
Speaker 1: partially because I want to listen back and be like
Speaker 1: funk I could have said this there fertently at it.
Speaker 1: I'm like my biggest critic, and it's good because it
Speaker 1: makes me get better. And it's like it's like me
Speaker 1: and tattooing. I. I rarely, rarely love my work really
Speaker 1: and it's crazy. And I think some of the best
Speaker 1: artists will feel or some other artists will feel similar to,
Speaker 1: you know, to that, because we're our biggest critics. Like
Speaker 1: you say, so, I will knock something out where someone
Speaker 1: will be like, oh, that's phenomenal, but I'll look at
Speaker 1: it and like it's not where I wanted to be,
Speaker 1: you know, And I think that's important, you know, important
Speaker 1: as far as keeping that drive and that ambition to
Speaker 1: try to be the best, to try to be better.
Speaker 1: So it's just it's just something of me, you know.
Speaker 1: I it's like cooks, you know. I rarely see cooks
Speaker 1: like their own food, you know what I mean? Really, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's kind of yeah. You think about it like if
Speaker 1: someone's cooking, Like if you cook for someone, you know,
Speaker 1: they'll eat it. They'll like him like, oh man, it's
Speaker 1: good eating. And you'd be like, yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's all right, you know, because you're likely critical of yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so but I think a humble person needs that, you know,
Speaker 1: and especially if they're looking to succeed or excel to
Speaker 1: a certain level, you know, you need to have that
Speaker 1: criticism about yourself, you know. Yeah. Well, anyway, with that,
Speaker 1: with that out of the way and moving on to
Speaker 1: important things, I was going to talk about you being
Speaker 1: back from Puerto Rico and we'd get into all that.
Speaker 1: But um, basically, a couple of hours before we got
Speaker 1: in here, we got word of a major terrorists at
Speaker 1: in New York City. So eight dead and Lower Manhattan.
Speaker 1: A man driving a home depot truck through the bike
Speaker 1: lane shout at all bar shot dead by NYPD. And
Speaker 1: the crazy thing was I texted Jason originally and the
Speaker 1: article in the New York Times made it sound like
Speaker 1: we have no idea what this man is. You know,
Speaker 1: someone texts me to and say, and their headline, the
Speaker 1: one they received says something along the effects of reckless
Speaker 1: driver you know, plows into you know. So it's it's crazy,
Speaker 1: how I want to say, the left, the left wing
Speaker 1: media kind of yeah, that's fair to say, right, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of tries to stay away from calling a spade
Speaker 1: to spade. You know, we talked about this a few
Speaker 1: podcasts ago. Um, it's it's crazy to me, It really is,
Speaker 1: you know, especially when you hear the you know, oh,
Speaker 1: he plowed through trying to plow through a school bus.
Speaker 1: He did pop through the school bus. There was two
Speaker 1: children and two adults on that school bus. Then he
Speaker 1: plowed through or I'm not sure the timeline, then you know,
Speaker 1: power through the bike lane and then got out and
Speaker 1: started yelling out log bar. There was some reports that
Speaker 1: he had a weapon and was firing. There was some
Speaker 1: reports that there was multiple subset suspects and also I
Speaker 1: heard one where it was he was shooting a paintball
Speaker 1: gun or a BB gun. So but yet still yelling
Speaker 1: all the log bar after killing you know, multiple people
Speaker 1: did the point the BB gun or sure, because um,
Speaker 1: the only person that really had the detail account as
Speaker 1: to what happened was a passer by and what he
Speaker 1: was saying was by the time he got there, um,
Speaker 1: the cops already had the individual. Uh like that someone
Speaker 1: was on the floor, another person was on their knees
Speaker 1: with their hands behind their back, and they were yelling, uh,
Speaker 1: go get another suspect. He ran into the park. Um.
Speaker 1: So that's it's still confusing. Hopefully with the investigation, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe by tomorrow will kind of hone in
Speaker 1: on exactly what I think. By the time we put
Speaker 1: this up, there'll be a little bit more information. So yeah,
Speaker 1: So but you know, it's it's just crazy to me
Speaker 1: how they intentionally forced the narrative away from what everyone
Speaker 1: already knows what it is. Yeah. And then you know,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm hearing Cuomo, Governor Cuomo, and when he
Speaker 1: was addressing um, you know, during his address to the public,
Speaker 1: he said something along the line is the truth is uh,
Speaker 1: New York isn't what is this? Yeah, and innovation or
Speaker 1: it is a symbol of freedom and democracy and therefore
Speaker 1: making ourselves a target, right, and then he says, you know,
Speaker 1: we have to we have to continue life, you know,
Speaker 1: as New Yorkers, as if nothing ever happened, and we
Speaker 1: can't really change our way of life because then they
Speaker 1: would win. And you know, I don't know if I
Speaker 1: totally agree with that, because we've been kind of following
Speaker 1: the same mantra since nine eleven, you know, even since
Speaker 1: prior to that, I mean, and it's like, okay, when
Speaker 1: are we going to actually be proactive in this? That's
Speaker 1: what I would like to see. What would you say
Speaker 1: that they're just saying that because you know, you do
Speaker 1: see like a huge show of force that you go
Speaker 1: to Penn Station, But that's NYPD. What if this happened
Speaker 1: in l Ah. You know, NYPD has been building up
Speaker 1: their their forces, should I say, for lack of better term,
Speaker 1: you know, their their manpower for police force, police force.
Speaker 1: I mean, well I don't even know what their payroll
Speaker 1: or what their numbers are, but last I heard, it
Speaker 1: was almost sixty thou police officers in the New York
Speaker 1: City area, the metropolitan area. That's ridiculous. The fact that
Speaker 1: they're guarding Malwani, a Trump and barons a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 1: And then now you're talking about federal assets and all that.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it, you know, answer that police presence
Speaker 1: in New York and then I mean New York really
Speaker 1: is I would say a staple of a municipality working
Speaker 1: with federal law enforcement and making it work, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, because you know, you've got programs like
Speaker 1: HIDO here and stuff like that, and you know they're
Speaker 1: you know, NYPD officers that work on a federal level
Speaker 1: as far as intelligence gathering things of that nature. But
Speaker 1: it works well. And you know, I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: bagging on them as far as this. I'm not blaming
Speaker 1: them for this happening. Obviously. Remember we talked about if
Speaker 1: someone wants to do something to you, they're gonna do it.
Speaker 1: But my point is, um, they grew their force to
Speaker 1: such a huge number that yeah, that show of force
Speaker 1: is naturally going to be a powerful one. But what
Speaker 1: if this did occur somewhere like Dallas or like l A,
Speaker 1: where you know the numbers aren't quite there, like nhyp D.
Speaker 1: You know, Um, what's what's happening behind the scenes, Like
Speaker 1: are we really are we really investigating you know some
Speaker 1: of these uh Islamic extremist hot spots, you know, some
Speaker 1: of these you know, crazy rhetoric, anti American rhetoric, spewing,
Speaker 1: you know, mosque. I mean, do we have people there?
Speaker 1: You know, could this have been prevented? You know, all
Speaker 1: these things kind of like jump into my mind as
Speaker 1: a citizen in New York, you know, I think that's
Speaker 1: it's on the mind of everyone else. When I'm afraid
Speaker 1: of is when I hear that the all left, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of like wash this out. I just I don't
Speaker 1: want that to happen. I want this to be at
Speaker 1: the forefront of everyone's minds because you know, it's a
Speaker 1: combat mindset. I want people to walk around not in
Speaker 1: la la land and kind of like think to themselves,
Speaker 1: this might happen at any given time. So and I
Speaker 1: think that's the only way they can really truly prepare
Speaker 1: themselves for you know, the inevitable or that, because in
Speaker 1: this day and age, just it's it's look, we're talking
Speaker 1: about London. We're talking about I mean, in London is
Speaker 1: what's been I'm not London, but in Europe it's it's
Speaker 1: what's been happening frequently with these lone wolf attacks, is
Speaker 1: what they're calling them. So, I mean, we're starting to
Speaker 1: see this now, and how brazen is that to do it?
Speaker 1: Like you said man. Downtown Manhattan, off the West Side Highway,
Speaker 1: where I mean, this ain't Queens, man, this ain't the Bronx.
Speaker 1: You know, this ain't Yonkers. You know, this is downtown
Speaker 1: Manhattan where there's probably three or four cops on every block.
Speaker 1: You know, So that's pretty brazen. So you know it
Speaker 1: makes you wonder, like, you know, what else is out
Speaker 1: there and what are we doing about it? I just
Speaker 1: want to I want to feel comfortable. I want to
Speaker 1: feel safe. I want to know that we're not just
Speaker 1: sweeping this under the rug. That's it, you know. I
Speaker 1: would like my governor to talk a little bit more tougher. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, that's all, said man. Um. Well, before we
Speaker 1: get to Nick Irving, who of course is like a
Speaker 1: favorite on the show. Um, I said that this happened
Speaker 1: like a few hours ago. We're kind of doing this
Speaker 1: now is like a night shift. Because you were telling me,
Speaker 1: you were like, hey, I want a tattoo during the day,
Speaker 1: hang out with my kids during the day, which I
Speaker 1: which I completely get. And I kind of dig this
Speaker 1: like I went from my run this morning or actually afternoon,
Speaker 1: and then got to come here, like I I dig that. Um.
Speaker 1: And I said to you when you walked in here,
Speaker 1: and I guess we'll get into the Puerto Rico thing.
Speaker 1: It was like, you look like you lost a pretty
Speaker 1: good amount of weight. So I don't know if you
Speaker 1: want to get into that story. Yeah, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: selling a new weight loss plan called round trip ticket
Speaker 1: to Puerto Rico for over a week because you know,
Speaker 1: the situation over there is pretty crazy. I kind of
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get into it just a little bit because
Speaker 1: for like a few minutes, um, so just to highlight
Speaker 1: the contradiction. I think Puerto Rico is the only place
Speaker 1: where you can buy a thirty dollar diamond ring and
Speaker 1: not be able to get a bag of ice. I
Speaker 1: don't understand it. It blows my mind. Dealerships are still open,
Speaker 1: the malls are still open, Burger King and McDonald's is
Speaker 1: in full swing, but you have to stand in line
Speaker 1: for six hours for a bag of half melted ice,
Speaker 1: and there's no power. And then on top of that,
Speaker 1: you know ups and usps. They're telling people that okay,
Speaker 1: we can ship your items over here and they'll get
Speaker 1: there in time. When they'll even give you a date
Speaker 1: as to when they'll they'll arrive and when you get
Speaker 1: there and they don't arrive, and you're backed up by
Speaker 1: four or five days and you're at their facility or
Speaker 1: you're on the phone waiting for two hours to speak
Speaker 1: to a representative. All they can tell you is, oh,
Speaker 1: because of the situation, Uh, things are just a little slower.
Speaker 1: We can't give you a time when your stuff is
Speaker 1: gonna be delivered. So it's like, it's hard to say
Speaker 1: that that's not intentional. You understand where I'm going with this.
Speaker 1: It's like, because if people had their power plants or
Speaker 1: had their generators that they call them plans over there,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, they call them plantas. Um, if people were
Speaker 1: able to get their generators and get the supplies that
Speaker 1: all these nonprofits over here in the in the States sent,
Speaker 1: if they were able to get this, how much would
Speaker 1: they really need those multimillion dollar contractors over there? They
Speaker 1: wouldn't you think? It's I think it's politics. I think,
Speaker 1: and I've been in the contractor world. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: call it right now, And if anyone dares to investigate this,
Speaker 1: I am calling it right now. I'll put money on
Speaker 1: it that they'll find some wrongdoing here. Um. I've never
Speaker 1: known ups to be not reliant, you know. And we
Speaker 1: went private for a reason. We went UPS and not
Speaker 1: USPS for a reason because we said, okay, it's private.
Speaker 1: You know, they're you know, their their workers are lived
Speaker 1: by a capitalist, you know old. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: We got to be the first and the best, you know,
Speaker 1: so but that's not the case over there. Um. I
Speaker 1: went to go pick up my generator that was six
Speaker 1: days late, and we sent it out a week two
Speaker 1: weeks before we flew. And now it's coming time for
Speaker 1: us to leave the island and our grandparents. You know,
Speaker 1: my grandmother has co op D, my grandfather has diabetes,
Speaker 1: which needs is inculent refrigerated. Um. And we're about to
Speaker 1: leave them without being able to accomplish what we set
Speaker 1: out to do. So I'm at the UPS and I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: a buddy of mine, uh kind of went into their system.
Speaker 1: He's a UPS worker, and he went into the system
Speaker 1: and said, this last place it was checked in is
Speaker 1: this place. So I get down there and I say,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, here's my tracking number? What you
Speaker 1: got for me? And the first thing the lady says, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't see it here. Um, give it a few
Speaker 1: days and I was like, I'm not gonna buy this
Speaker 1: right now. So I showed her a screenshot of their
Speaker 1: system and I said, look, it's here, it was checked
Speaker 1: in here. Then she like blows up and says, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be yelled at you can't yell at me.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna deal with you. Security, come get this guy.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, whoa, what just happened? So I snapped,
Speaker 1: you know me, So I had a couple of security
Speaker 1: guards and police officers approached me, and I just threatened
Speaker 1: to smack all smack all of them. Um, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I almost got locked up for real, bro. We've been
Speaker 1: here doing the show. Yeah, I know, bro, But it
Speaker 1: was like my grandparents, you know. And I was. I
Speaker 1: was emotionally invested. But then again, to be fair, it's
Speaker 1: probably so many people here exactly, and it's hard to
Speaker 1: deal with. And I guess that was kind of her
Speaker 1: defense mechanism or whatever. But the fact of the matter
Speaker 1: is my generator was there. But the issue that Long
Speaker 1: and Behold came or arose was that it was still
Speaker 1: in the shipping container three high stack three high in
Speaker 1: their warehouse and they didn't want to bring it down
Speaker 1: it has been there for six days. So I'm thinking
Speaker 1: to myself, Okay, you guys, you know, as a business man,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, you guys know you have a
Speaker 1: problem with one offloading your shipping containers to getting them
Speaker 1: on the trucks and out into the countryside. Because the
Speaker 1: main cities like San Juan Moa, those are huge cities
Speaker 1: and they're functioning well, they even have power. It's the
Speaker 1: people in the countryside that are suffering. So you know,
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, guys, see this issue. Why don't you
Speaker 1: just let everyone know, Okay, we're not delivery no more.
Speaker 1: Just come to the hub and pick it up from
Speaker 1: the hub. Problem solved. You don't have to worry about drivers,
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about gasoline. Right. No, they
Speaker 1: refuse to give you your property, and they say, you're
Speaker 1: at the mercy of whatever the hell it is, you're
Speaker 1: at the mercy of so And like I said, then,
Speaker 1: to see that that contradiction from going to that to
Speaker 1: going into the Mall of America and you know, seeing
Speaker 1: zails still open, you know, selling diamonds and burger king
Speaker 1: pumping up burgers. It's like it blows my mind and
Speaker 1: I'm like, how are they getting their burger patties? But
Speaker 1: I can't get my generator when I know where it's located.
Speaker 1: So that that, to me makes you feel like the
Speaker 1: burghers are probably been there for months. And dude, because
Speaker 1: let me tell you, the Mall of America or the
Speaker 1: malls in general, are the only place where the powers
Speaker 1: in full swing. And obviously it's privatized, so you know,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to speculate on that, but think about it.
Speaker 1: The entire city is there because that's the only place
Speaker 1: where air conditioning, that's the only place where you could
Speaker 1: get dinner, the lunch, you know, of subsistence of protein.
Speaker 1: So you know, that place is packed and they're selling
Speaker 1: tons and tons of this stuff. So come on, how
Speaker 1: can a little kiosk restaurant keep serving thousands of people
Speaker 1: daily without getting their supplies? And it's impossible. So you
Speaker 1: know that that stuff, to me is logic, you know,
Speaker 1: and that that's what led me to believe that it's
Speaker 1: someone intentional. So I'm not sure, but I think a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff is going to come from this later
Speaker 1: on as to you know, negligence or you know, mishandling
Speaker 1: of you know, you know, disaster relief. Yeah, and this
Speaker 1: is coming from someone who was there. So I guess
Speaker 1: the one question I would ask then for our audiences
Speaker 1: wondering from like a guy they rely on who who
Speaker 1: was actually their salt was going on, and they want
Speaker 1: to help out, Like do you know any organization getting
Speaker 1: the job done? So I got a couple of buddies
Speaker 1: that have started nonprofits and there are another collecting items.
Speaker 1: And the crazy part is like these guys, you know
Speaker 1: they they're in full swing in Houston. Um, they're in
Speaker 1: full swing in Florida where you know, all these disaster,
Speaker 1: recent disasters hit and they've been been able to make
Speaker 1: an impact and get some sort of recognition. And so
Speaker 1: now you know there's people backing them and supporting them,
Speaker 1: and they get They called me while I'm out there
Speaker 1: and like, hey, we saw your post. What is the
Speaker 1: best way for us to get our stuff out there?
Speaker 1: So what I heard the best way was to go
Speaker 1: through an independent moving company like Embardico Mayflower, those people
Speaker 1: that actually have ships, that actually have trucks, and you
Speaker 1: can donate to them, no use them for your transportation.
Speaker 1: As far as donating into depends on who you're donating to.
Speaker 1: And who they use, because who you're donating to. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying they don't have intentions of getting the items there.
Speaker 1: They do. They all do. The problem is who they're
Speaker 1: using for their transport. And they're at the mercy of that.
Speaker 1: That's the memo. But I just wonderful like the guy
Speaker 1: wishing right now who lives in Arkansas or something, no
Speaker 1: connection at all the Puerto Rico, and he's like, hey,
Speaker 1: I just want to do the right thing, help out
Speaker 1: my fellow Americans. But but it like this, I have
Speaker 1: yet to hear of anything getting to the island. A
Speaker 1: buddy of mine that um it's what was his company
Speaker 1: called um Regular Guys, um Regular Guys. Uh, it's a
Speaker 1: nonprofit buddy of mine, Eric Uh. He started it out
Speaker 1: in uh Texas for from the disaster over there, right
Speaker 1: and they're telling me that they've got a bunch of
Speaker 1: generators and chainsaws and stuff like that, and all the
Speaker 1: stuff they collected is still like, you know, they're still
Speaker 1: not there. They're not sure who to go to to
Speaker 1: transport the stuff. I even heard from another source that
Speaker 1: the stuff that did did collect is still sitting on
Speaker 1: the airport in North Carolina for over three weeks, so
Speaker 1: no one's making an effort to move the stuff that
Speaker 1: people are donating to the island, you get it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just wondered, like, what do you say exactly? And
Speaker 1: here's here's my point. So before you donate to someone,
Speaker 1: actually find out their their chain of custody and and
Speaker 1: see if anything did reach the island, you know, because
Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's it'll be a waste
Speaker 1: of time because that might be the only way to
Speaker 1: do it. And you're just at the mercy of the
Speaker 1: transporting companies or whoever decides to fly the crap over. Um,
Speaker 1: just find out this disgust to them because you're you
Speaker 1: get I mean these generators, like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: some of them are two grand chainsaws. And also with
Speaker 1: the supply and demand right now, there's people in Houston
Speaker 1: who wanted them, I would think that the price just
Speaker 1: gets gouged naturally, exactly. And and that's one thing unfortunately
Speaker 1: I will say about my people, their opportunists, you know,
Speaker 1: and everybody they're they're extremely inconsiderate as well, it's America
Speaker 1: as well, but they're extremely inconsiderate. You know. You know,
Speaker 1: for a fact, if those individuals at ups if it
Speaker 1: was their family member that came with the same predicament
Speaker 1: that I had, they would make an effort to have
Speaker 1: Jose go up to the damn uh shipping container and
Speaker 1: pull their item down, right, But I'm no one to them,
Speaker 1: so they don't care. Even if I gave them the
Speaker 1: story of my grandma CLPD, my grandfather you know insulin,
Speaker 1: they don't care. And that's a sad part because they
Speaker 1: have to learn how to come together as a community.
Speaker 1: You know, they have to start holding their mayors accountable.
Speaker 1: You know, they they're politicians accountable for what's going on.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's an injustice out there. It's pretty crazy, man.
Speaker 1: So what I will say to someone who does want
Speaker 1: to donate and help, just talk to the individual you're
Speaker 1: dealing with and see if they actually help someone on
Speaker 1: the ground, and if they can prove to you that
Speaker 1: they help someone, because their cell phone still out there,
Speaker 1: you can call someone that got help. You know, I
Speaker 1: haven't proved to you that they help some way shape
Speaker 1: a form, and then from there go ahead and spend
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Speaker 1: with that, Nick the Reaper, Irvin. Yes, all the ship
Speaker 1: names you were spewing out, a lot of the ships
Speaker 1: from Star Trek were named after old battleships, the Aurora.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what is this Star Trek he's talking about?
Speaker 1: All right, Oh, there we go, there we go, Nick, Nick?
Speaker 1: What is going on? Man? Hey, what's up? Bros? Delgato? Chilling? Man?
Speaker 1: I'm looking at your Skype picture. Now, you got your
Speaker 1: chest me hanging out? Is actually hand in front of it?
Speaker 1: What is that? Which one? What have you got like
Speaker 1: a headset on? Oh? That's your hand in front of
Speaker 1: your your chance? I thought I was I wonder what
Speaker 1: you're saying? Yeah, I thought that was your like your
Speaker 1: shirt opened. I was like, oh man, he's feeling himself
Speaker 1: right now. I wasn't. I think I was in like
Speaker 1: I was still in Maryland when I took that picture
Speaker 1: for Skype. Bro. That's that's an old old photo. Let's startup.
Speaker 1: I switch that up? You too sexy? Now for that?
Speaker 1: Come on? Now, I haven't I barely used skype man?
Speaker 1: Well yeah, Nick does use it to come on with us.
Speaker 1: Got four getting into everything with Nick though, So Nick,
Speaker 1: of course Army Rangers Sniper. Um. Many of you in
Speaker 1: the audience have read both The Reaper and Way of
Speaker 1: the Reaper. Seeing all the stuff that you're up to.
Speaker 1: I mean, the next the next big project right now
Speaker 1: and we'll get into it a little later. Is um
Speaker 1: the first novel you're doing with General General Tony Tata
Speaker 1: who writes as A J. Tata. We had him in
Speaker 1: here and when he came in, he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: have you guys ever heard of Nick Irving. I'm working
Speaker 1: on a book with him, and uh, it comes out
Speaker 1: in May, a Threaper Ghost Target. So I mean, well,
Speaker 1: we'll hear more about it later, but I mean, just
Speaker 1: real quick, I'm wondering what inspired you to work on
Speaker 1: a novel? And how did you get hooked up with
Speaker 1: General Tata? Yeah? Yeah, Tata? Yeah, how did I get
Speaker 1: hooked up with them? Yep? Dude, it's a crazy story, man.
Speaker 1: We'll not really a crazy, crazy story, but uh, Mark
Speaker 1: resinec of course, you know, I been working with Tim
Speaker 1: for a while now at St. Martin's Press, and yeah, yes, Mark,
Speaker 1: Markma Man Man, but uh yeah, he hooked me up
Speaker 1: with A. J. Todda. We pitched around, you know a
Speaker 1: few other authors that could uh kind of take this
Speaker 1: thing to the next level. And you know, for me, man,
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, uh, you know, of course I
Speaker 1: want to tell the story, and I already have the story,
Speaker 1: and it's just fine tuning it. Like I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not the smartest guy in the world. I didn't go
Speaker 1: to school for for writing or an you're very smart guy,
Speaker 1: and you're very humble. I don't know, man, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it felt published like five books, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's just that fine tuning of you know what I
Speaker 1: don't have access to of you know, uh taking it
Speaker 1: to that next level. And Aj really really, you know,
Speaker 1: came across as one of those guys that would you know,
Speaker 1: you know, take it to that next level. And and
Speaker 1: we talked on the phone for like two plus hours, man,
Speaker 1: and laid out this whole you know, concept of where
Speaker 1: I wanted to take uh big hardwood and you know
Speaker 1: this novel series. Big Harwood is the main character of
Speaker 1: this novel series. Man and uh talked on the phone
Speaker 1: from like two hours and from start to finish, like
Speaker 1: we had the entire uh you know, outlet of this uh,
Speaker 1: the first installment of the novel series, and I'm already
Speaker 1: working on the second, one, third, and fourth. In my
Speaker 1: head is like, you know it, just keep it rolling, man.
Speaker 1: But he came across as he he already like knew
Speaker 1: the lingo and knew the talk and the walk, and
Speaker 1: he understood it. Man, he got it. He got the concept.
Speaker 1: And he's been in the fiction uh you know world
Speaker 1: for quite some time and and he's got a name
Speaker 1: for himself out there. But you know, it's just being
Speaker 1: able to work with another veteran and a general at that.
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, come on, and he's an excellent writer.
Speaker 1: Like right here in the studio, I have the thing
Speaker 1: that he signed Army Strong you kind of see right
Speaker 1: there over the Dari's wins. Uh. Great guy. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: let Jason asked some stuff. But I actually had one
Speaker 1: question I was thinking of when when I heard I
Speaker 1: was gonna book you with j Sin that I figured, Um,
Speaker 1: would make sense. So kind of the first question from
Speaker 1: me that relates to both you guys and I guess
Speaker 1: I want to hear from Nick first is I get
Speaker 1: so many emails from these young kids who are just
Speaker 1: joining the military, and I kind of wonder if if
Speaker 1: one of these kids who's sixteen seventeen is like, I
Speaker 1: want to be a sniper. They've read your book or
Speaker 1: they've read Jason's book, Like, how would you say they
Speaker 1: should distinguish if they want to be, you know, do
Speaker 1: what you did, be an army sniper or Marine Scout sniper. Like,
Speaker 1: what what are the main differences for someone like me
Speaker 1: who wouldn't really know the main differences? Yeah, between my
Speaker 1: job and Jason's job. Dude, I think I think it.
Speaker 1: Uh ah man, it could come down to as much
Speaker 1: as the mentality. And I'm not gonna like take anything
Speaker 1: away from uh the Marine Corps anything. And I don't
Speaker 1: walk on the nice, baby, don't walk on the nice no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no. I got a chance to shoot with
Speaker 1: them in the International Sniper comp Man. They took it
Speaker 1: home that year. UH got a chance to work with
Speaker 1: the two five Marines scout snipers. I believe that's what
Speaker 1: you call them in in Afghanistan. And dude, they taught
Speaker 1: me and my sniper element like a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: like dude, a no joke, like sniper hide Vietnam style
Speaker 1: with the maps and grid square. I'm like, dude, come on,
Speaker 1: we got technology now. But these guys were taking it
Speaker 1: back to that old school. Colonel's Hathcock, who was also Marine.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think that their background and even
Speaker 1: from basic training out there, you know, five hundred yards
Speaker 1: shots and the Armies, you know, doing three hundred. And
Speaker 1: you look at the stats today, who's producing the better
Speaker 1: shots and the better shooters is the Marine Corps, you know,
Speaker 1: and and the Army is having a huge problem right now.
Speaker 1: So I think that, uh, you know, the difference, the
Speaker 1: main difference would be their lineage, their background, their heritage.
Speaker 1: You know, they're all everyone you know can shoot five
Speaker 1: huntret yards in the Marine Corps. The everyone can shoot
Speaker 1: you know, pretty much everyone can shoot three hundred yards
Speaker 1: in the Army. But when you go into sniping, they
Speaker 1: really really find too. They have the agens to look
Speaker 1: up to. I mean the number one guy himself, Carlos Hathcock,
Speaker 1: who like you know, paved the way for you know
Speaker 1: what sniping is today, and and that's a guy I
Speaker 1: looked up to. And when I had a chance to
Speaker 1: do my little sniper stuff and Afghanistan and do hid sights,
Speaker 1: it was like, dude, I'm no joke to Black Carlos
Speaker 1: Hathcock right now. That's what I felt like, you know,
Speaker 1: So I think, yeah, I think the main difference would
Speaker 1: just be Marine coinn there, there's there's snout, Scout sniper program.
Speaker 1: It's you know, I sent guys over to that uh
Speaker 1: program and they came back and gave reports and and
Speaker 1: hands down. Every single guy to a t said that, no,
Speaker 1: that's no joke. The sniper school. Yeah, that's one thing
Speaker 1: the Marine Corps really pride prides ourselves in is that
Speaker 1: that traditionalist mentality that we we have that lineage and
Speaker 1: we keep that lineage um strong throughout the generations of Marines.
Speaker 1: But as far as I was, as far as my
Speaker 1: input on on the question, it's the exact polar opposite.
Speaker 1: I would say, if you're looking to get into the
Speaker 1: next generation of sniping, it would be the army, you know,
Speaker 1: because you have you guys have the funding, you have
Speaker 1: the weapons systems and you're not afraid to try new things,
Speaker 1: you know. So in the it's it's it's it's one
Speaker 1: hand versus the other. You know, on our hand, you know,
Speaker 1: we we were meticulous on the Marine Corps, and we're
Speaker 1: meticulous in the way we train and teach and ensure
Speaker 1: that all the fundamentals are there and are beat into
Speaker 1: you so that when you when it comes down to it,
Speaker 1: you can rely on raw and just rawness on raw talent.
Speaker 1: But the army, which also you have a buttload of
Speaker 1: knowledge that you're given in the army as well, because
Speaker 1: we do cross train a lot, true or not, we
Speaker 1: do cross tra a lot. They're not afraid to spend
Speaker 1: money on equipment and try new things and develop new things.
Speaker 1: So you know, it's just what you know, what what
Speaker 1: is it that you're looking for as far as the uh,
Speaker 1: as far as the experience, But when it comes to
Speaker 1: the action, when it comes to getting down and shooting, honestly,
Speaker 1: no one, no one knows. It's just a matter of
Speaker 1: right place, right time. In factly, and that's a big
Speaker 1: thing too about sniping, is that you know, you hear
Speaker 1: the stories of you know, the cool guys stories about
Speaker 1: sniping and stuff like that. And I will also give uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Jason credit as well. We've had a conversation,
Speaker 1: a long conversation over cigars and drinks, uh in l
Speaker 1: a one year and I'm listening to Jason talk about
Speaker 1: you know, ballistics and data and we're going back and
Speaker 1: forth about you know, uh, you know, all types of
Speaker 1: you know sniper stuff. You know, naming awful, you know,
Speaker 1: m ways for this distance for this, for this round, coefficients,
Speaker 1: how it affects this, and apex is of you know
Speaker 1: grand for you know, one one seven versus ah, this
Speaker 1: all types of you know, sniper knowledge. And listening to
Speaker 1: Jason talkas it's like, oh my gosh, this guy you know,
Speaker 1: no joke. It's it's like, you know, when I was
Speaker 1: getting towards the end of my career and sniping dude,
Speaker 1: we had you know a lot of you know, ballistic
Speaker 1: calculators and stuff that you put on the side of
Speaker 1: your scope to you know, make you really uh super sniper.
Speaker 1: But I was I was never into that, you know.
Speaker 1: Everything for me was all mental, you know. And and
Speaker 1: in my defense, Nick, you know, I was also an instructor,
Speaker 1: so you know, I had all the cheek codes you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I had all the pubs and books,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I had the rounds and that then the
Speaker 1: range time to you know, approve all these theories. So,
Speaker 1: you know, because you you got an audience of a
Speaker 1: buttload of alpha males, you know, so you didn't want
Speaker 1: to be wrong. Ever, that is true, that is true.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but I think that you know, when it
Speaker 1: comes to uh, you know, right place, right time, man,
Speaker 1: I think that there's so many are not even so many.
Speaker 1: You just hear these cool stories of you know, guys,
Speaker 1: you know, getting down and dirty and pulling a trigger overseas.
Speaker 1: But the snipers that don't get a chance to do that, dude,
Speaker 1: outweigh the guys who get a chance to do a
Speaker 1: tinfold like it. It's not many guys that get a
Speaker 1: chance to pursue that career and be a sniper and
Speaker 1: get a chance to go out there and and do
Speaker 1: apply that skill set. It's this right place, right time,
Speaker 1: and most of the time you're out there, dude, it's
Speaker 1: just you know, reporting back to your commander most of
Speaker 1: the time, you know. And and lucky for me, I
Speaker 1: was just in a in Afghanistan at a time where
Speaker 1: you know, it was just us. As Tom Cruise would say,
Speaker 1: it was just a target rich environment man, you know.
Speaker 1: And and I was just not a trigger shy type
Speaker 1: of guy. Yeah. And when I read your book that
Speaker 1: I think that message is what resonated to me the most,
Speaker 1: was that you had other third bat snipers coming up
Speaker 1: to you like, what the fuck you gotta kill today?
Speaker 1: What the hell? And to me it was like the same,
Speaker 1: it was the same situation I was in. It's like, bro,
Speaker 1: it's the right place, right time. I I didn't like
Speaker 1: intentionally do it like we we went through the same training,
Speaker 1: we went through, We did everything the same. I just
Speaker 1: went out a different time and a different day than
Speaker 1: you did and just got caught up in some fucked
Speaker 1: up ship and pulled my ass out of it. So
Speaker 1: and granted, granted, I will give myself this though I
Speaker 1: did rub it in and over some time when you
Speaker 1: was young I was. I was a young cocky guy too.
Speaker 1: I would I may have printed out a picture or
Speaker 1: two of a dead guy and the like, hey look
Speaker 1: what I did? You know, maybe, and especially the new guys.
Speaker 1: I will new guys. I gave those guys a hard
Speaker 1: time just being you know, a buck five sergeant in
Speaker 1: range of battalion and it's some cherry guys coming in. Bro,
Speaker 1: It's it's one of those things you've got to give
Speaker 1: him a hard time. And for me, I'd walk past
Speaker 1: the room like, Hey, did you guys say save the
Speaker 1: role today? Then thinks I did you know? And just
Speaker 1: move on do push ups. You know, Nick, I got
Speaker 1: a question for you, brother, Yeah, when you're gonna move
Speaker 1: to l A, you are Hollywood as hell, and I
Speaker 1: guess I'll announce it with you guys. Bro first, uh, literally,
Speaker 1: just get off the phone. Man. I can't say too much.
Speaker 1: It's like that, give us some good, baby, give us
Speaker 1: something good. I give you. I know a lot of
Speaker 1: people have been wondering about the you know, hey, Nick,
Speaker 1: when's the TV show coming out? TV show coming out? Dude,
Speaker 1: I'm just a naturally a quiet guy, and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm a firm believe are in in percentages and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. It's only put like ten percent of what
Speaker 1: was actually going on in my life on social media.
Speaker 1: It's just I'm a very private guy and I'm you know,
Speaker 1: naturally liked that. I grew up that way just being
Speaker 1: to myself. But dude, Uh. So, long story short, Uh
Speaker 1: decided to take a different route with it and through
Speaker 1: just I don't know, just a lot of weird stuff happening. Man.
Speaker 1: Uh just basically closed a deal today to have it
Speaker 1: h be produced into a movie. So what are you kidding?
Speaker 1: No joke, Man is no longer to be an NBC show,
Speaker 1: but it will be a full length, you know, picture
Speaker 1: feature like our thirty two hours whatever they do not
Speaker 1: depending on the producer and the director. Dude, it might
Speaker 1: be way better than a show. I'll tell you this.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you like one, it was just another thing.
Speaker 1: Like I won't get too much into it. I think
Speaker 1: it's just I'm maybe but easoning behind everything. And you know,
Speaker 1: I'm a big believer in like strategizing and just waiting.
Speaker 1: You know, it's that snyper mentality. I'll wait, dude, I'll
Speaker 1: wait a year, four shot, you know, if it's if
Speaker 1: it's my time to get it in, I'll get it in.
Speaker 1: But I just like to wait and see what happens
Speaker 1: and and play my play my cards man, and luckily
Speaker 1: played him right. And Uh, just one of those things. Man,
Speaker 1: It's almost like right place, right time, and uh so
Speaker 1: the NBC thing with the Weinstein Company and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was going, It's real, it was really good.
Speaker 1: And by the way, Weinstein not exactly a popular name
Speaker 1: at the moment. That did that affect you? Did that
Speaker 1: affect you at all? Brother? No, it was because it
Speaker 1: was bought out by you know, the company ass uh.
Speaker 1: You know whin is the only owned like a percentage
Speaker 1: of it, and it wasn't Uh, he's not the company,
Speaker 1: he's just individual associated with it. Of course it's his name,
Speaker 1: but it's also a good thing not to be involved
Speaker 1: with that right now, you know that. I'm wondering did
Speaker 1: you meet him by any chance? Because I got to
Speaker 1: board off Harvey Weinstein, believe it or not, like a
Speaker 1: couple of years back, and I'll just you know, look,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a male like he had, you know, nothing,
Speaker 1: He's not interested in me in the way that he was.
Speaker 1: And but he he couldn't have been a nicer guy.
Speaker 1: You know, obviously I didn't know this side to him.
Speaker 1: But I'm wondering if you had the same experience. No, no,
Speaker 1: from my experience man with uh with with the company
Speaker 1: itself and you know Harvey Weinstein that it's been nothing,
Speaker 1: but like I've never been treated a certain way. I've
Speaker 1: never been I've never seen or heard anything like that.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure jay Z Ditton as well, you know
Speaker 1: jay Z, he gets self to it and and I'm
Speaker 1: you know, a guy of his caliber, I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: did not want to be involved with that. How you know,
Speaker 1: when it was going on, you know, so uh it was.
Speaker 1: It's unfortunate definitely that you know, I had to wait
Speaker 1: this long to make an announcement about something. But there's
Speaker 1: a reason behind everything I do, man, and I think
Speaker 1: that this is gonna be a lot better. And you know, uh,
Speaker 1: not gonna say too much again, but I will say
Speaker 1: that my nature and what I believe in, Uh I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not a big you know, oh look at me
Speaker 1: type of you know, individual, And I didn't want the
Speaker 1: public to start to think that, not even the public. Man.
Speaker 1: It's just the story in itself is not a story
Speaker 1: about we'll look at you know, badass nic who can
Speaker 1: send it. It's not about that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's more about a culture. It's about a It's about
Speaker 1: uh not even I'm not gonna say a movement that's
Speaker 1: so cliche. But I think it's more about a you know,
Speaker 1: a guy like let's just use you know, the story
Speaker 1: for example, and graduated with the one point seven g
Speaker 1: p A out of high school. You know, had no
Speaker 1: aspirations of doing anything but military, couldn't go to college,
Speaker 1: and it has been in a lot of trouble and
Speaker 1: stuff like that growing up and all this crazy stuff. Man,
Speaker 1: And here I am, you know, next month, I got
Speaker 1: a few speeches to give it colleges and and never
Speaker 1: been to college, never set foot on college grounds, broy never.
Speaker 1: You just want to put a spotlight on the path
Speaker 1: and your boys. It's the same thing I set out
Speaker 1: to do. Well, yeah, exactly. And at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, when all of a sudden done, you know,
Speaker 1: people say, oh, how did you do it? And why
Speaker 1: it's just so hard? Are? People say, hey, man, how
Speaker 1: did you make your book into this? Dude? The only
Speaker 1: thing I would say is there's something I started to realize,
Speaker 1: and I think that, uh, there's two things. You know.
Speaker 1: Life is like a book. Rights just a big book
Speaker 1: with a bunch of chapters in it. And this is
Speaker 1: just a new chapter. Everyone has a different chapter my
Speaker 1: chapter and seven in my book is not chapter seven
Speaker 1: in Jason's book. You know, it's not chapter seven in
Speaker 1: AJ's book or whoever's book. You know, it's all different.
Speaker 1: And I think that once I started to realize, you know,
Speaker 1: moving on paths and moving on different chapters in life,
Speaker 1: like you have the reaper phase, you have the Afghanistan,
Speaker 1: Iraq and all this and that, But what's my next chapter?
Speaker 1: You know? And no one in a book on chapter
Speaker 1: six without the end, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: start looking at what's the next move? And I have
Speaker 1: really no goal, bro, like after the whole book thing
Speaker 1: and what's been going on. But I had a belief
Speaker 1: and I think that once and this applies to veterans
Speaker 1: as well. You look at the suicide stuff and what's
Speaker 1: going on, and I started to realize, you know, what
Speaker 1: is self worth? What am I worth now? You know,
Speaker 1: like I did my thing in the military, it was
Speaker 1: a million bucks? You know what am I worth now?
Speaker 1: Without that? And I had to really really dig deep
Speaker 1: and think, like, dude, that's a deep question. What are
Speaker 1: you worth now? You know you can't put a price
Speaker 1: to that. It's more of a feel, more of a
Speaker 1: path of where you want to go in life. Because
Speaker 1: worth is not a um has no monetary value when
Speaker 1: it when it comes to life. You know, you can't
Speaker 1: put a figure on a on a life, but a
Speaker 1: worth is more about you know, for me, what are
Speaker 1: you going to leave behind? And you look at how
Speaker 1: short life is, bro. You know, Jason, you've seen it.
Speaker 1: It's dying at the age of eighteen nineteen twenty years
Speaker 1: old and this person today lives to be and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you go through that point in your life where it's
Speaker 1: still you know, success and and and a clear path
Speaker 1: is right in front of your face. But we're not
Speaker 1: used to looking at such things, you know, So yeah,
Speaker 1: and it just dawns on you after you know, certain
Speaker 1: things are accomplished so and so because we're we and
Speaker 1: and individuals like you discussed, uh, you know I got
Speaker 1: my g D two brother, you know, or you know
Speaker 1: you went to college, but you know I was a rock,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I went in and
Speaker 1: you know, these are things that I can't see myself
Speaker 1: doing until I actually set that goal and knock it
Speaker 1: out the box. So guys like me and you knock
Speaker 1: our goals out in life super early. And then it's
Speaker 1: like what now? And then we set a new goal,
Speaker 1: and then what now instead a new goal? So on
Speaker 1: and so forth. So as we're moving along, we're growing
Speaker 1: and maturing. You know, it's simultaneously with our accomplishments. And
Speaker 1: I totally get where you're coming from. And I admire dude.
Speaker 1: I I look at you and I say, man, that's
Speaker 1: the footsteps I want to walk in, because you're you
Speaker 1: do a lot. You know, you really do a lot. Well,
Speaker 1: here's the reason I can't forget that one check out, bro.
Speaker 1: That's sick when you say you like you do a
Speaker 1: lot or whatever. You know, it's appreciated and whatnot. But
Speaker 1: like I was saying, like, dude, the average life is
Speaker 1: like seventy six years old. There's no way. There's no
Speaker 1: way you could tell me that we were putting. Everyone's like,
Speaker 1: what are we here for? You know, there's no way
Speaker 1: we're all here to be candle lights, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. There's just no way. It's such a short
Speaker 1: time to be here, to not do anything meaningful, to
Speaker 1: not be a bonfire, you know what I'm saying, to
Speaker 1: not blow up like that. There's just and everyone has
Speaker 1: a different path in life. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like for me, dude, and I'm a big believer in this,
Speaker 1: people say, oh, what am I gonna do? Now? They
Speaker 1: start to look at specific things in life, like oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a screenwriter, I'm gonna do this, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that, and I'm gonna do this. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, you ask yourself, what are you doing it for?
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it for the money or is it
Speaker 1: because you're passionate about it? Because if the mind, if
Speaker 1: the heart's not there. We all know, if the heart
Speaker 1: doesn't beat, the body won't move. So the heart's got
Speaker 1: to be into everything you do, or else you physically
Speaker 1: won't move there, You physically won't ever achieve that goal.
Speaker 1: So I just started to realize that, bro, And success
Speaker 1: comes with a persistence. Bro, Like, it's just being persistent
Speaker 1: here and here you talk. I have a question and
Speaker 1: and and do you sit back and listen to guys
Speaker 1: like Tony Robbins and David Googgin's and Tim Ferris. I mean,
Speaker 1: have you ever heard these guys speak and like, you know,
Speaker 1: kinda get something from them to align yourself to just
Speaker 1: like hit these targets and knock it out because the
Speaker 1: way you the way you move through life, the way
Speaker 1: you navigate bro, it's like, man, you're like you're in
Speaker 1: the path of one of those gurus, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? No, I never heard I never heard of
Speaker 1: him or listened to him. But it's just I have
Speaker 1: a lot of time I think that no one, no
Speaker 1: one's a genius. You know what I'm saying. No one's
Speaker 1: a genius, No one's smart. Some people just have more
Speaker 1: time to sit back and think about, you know, sometain things.
Speaker 1: And that's that's what that's what separates what we classify
Speaker 1: as a smart person from a person who's not so smart.
Speaker 1: Just someone who's willing to sit back and think about
Speaker 1: something longer than the next person. And I have the
Speaker 1: luxury and I get you whatever you want to call
Speaker 1: it of doing that. I don't have a nine to
Speaker 1: five job, and I don't get caught up on social media,
Speaker 1: and I don't get caught up on worldly news of
Speaker 1: things that won't affect me personally. You know, Am I
Speaker 1: here to to live for social media? Am I here
Speaker 1: to live for to be caught up in the five
Speaker 1: days or sixties of a trending topic? No, you got
Speaker 1: to ignore that, dude. There's so much out there and
Speaker 1: people say, oh, I'm grinding, I'm getting out there, I'm
Speaker 1: putting in this work. But then you go on their
Speaker 1: timeline and you always see them on social media. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you always. Yeah. And I have that whole idea of like,
Speaker 1: make more moves and less announcements. I know what you're
Speaker 1: talking about. Um, you know what. I just had a
Speaker 1: real quick question back to the movie deal. Is you
Speaker 1: know you mentioned jay Z who was attached to the show.
Speaker 1: Is jay Z still attached to the Uptoming movie? I
Speaker 1: can't say too much. I can't say too much. I
Speaker 1: do appreciate giving us the exclusive moving parts. Man, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of moving parts, and and I think that, Um,
Speaker 1: you know wherever it goes from here. Bro, Hollywood's a crazy,
Speaker 1: crazy place. And I'm you know, being in it for
Speaker 1: the time that I have been in and the friendships
Speaker 1: I've made and things I've done in there. Bro, you
Speaker 1: learned a lot, you know. And one thing is time time.
Speaker 1: You know. It's like it doesn't make sense sometimes we're
Speaker 1: us We're so used to things now now now, you know,
Speaker 1: and something happening now, Bro, Hollywood is just totally different.
Speaker 1: A year or two years. It's like, you know, that's
Speaker 1: movie time, that's time it takes to make a movie.
Speaker 1: But um, it, regardless of what happens where, it's just
Speaker 1: one of those things, not even a check mark. And
Speaker 1: I don't get excited about stuff like that. Like, dude,
Speaker 1: when before you call, I totally just got back from
Speaker 1: the gas station get in some cheap firewood, and I
Speaker 1: had already had this conversation. I knew the news and
Speaker 1: I haven't. I'm not gonna say I'm not excited about it.
Speaker 1: But bro, once you're you already have to live there
Speaker 1: in your head first, you know I'm in, Like, you
Speaker 1: have to visualize, you have to already see yourself there,
Speaker 1: because if you don't see it there first, and how
Speaker 1: the hell do you believe it yourself? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, there's no way you can believe it
Speaker 1: if you're not physically there. If when you wake up
Speaker 1: in the morning and ship doesn't seem off, like, man,
Speaker 1: this house doesn't feel right. Are where I'm working, it
Speaker 1: doesn't feel right. It feels like you know, you've been
Speaker 1: living in your head so long that you know, at
Speaker 1: your golden life, it becomes real and then eventually the
Speaker 1: law of attraction are physics. There's no way you can
Speaker 1: deny that. It has to manifest herself into reality, you know,
Speaker 1: like attracts like your magnet. And I just think that,
Speaker 1: you know, unless you're living, unless you're living there, go
Speaker 1: back to school in first grade. You know, you you're
Speaker 1: you're as a kid before you go to school, You're
Speaker 1: always been taught daydream, daydream. It's good for children. It's
Speaker 1: good for kids, you know. And I have a son
Speaker 1: now and the he's like, he's an adorable boy. Man
Speaker 1: that little boys cute as hell. Man. But yeah, say,
Speaker 1: you know, let your children's mind run wild, right, imagine
Speaker 1: to use their imagination. Then you get to school and
Speaker 1: you get into society and then you're told to stop.
Speaker 1: If you've caught day dreaming in class. What happens Teachers
Speaker 1: like cut it out, pay attention to this. You you
Speaker 1: we already know that. The doctors say, no, daydreaming is good.
Speaker 1: Dreaming is good, dreaming is good. But then you get
Speaker 1: to an establishment in society and they're like, no, stop
Speaker 1: that do it, but just not here. You have no
Speaker 1: time to do it. And what you know, I just
Speaker 1: don't understand that you start to exactly and that's where
Speaker 1: everything everything that you are you're talking on right now,
Speaker 1: I'm talking on Skye was all thought up from a thought, bro,
Speaker 1: you know, and someone had to have thought that and
Speaker 1: believed that it to, you know, for it to be true.
Speaker 1: From the right brothers to what's what's going on now?
Speaker 1: They were like, you know what, No, I've already been there,
Speaker 1: I've already seen it. Yeah, they manifested it, bro, And
Speaker 1: I think that that's I'm not doing anything different. It's
Speaker 1: not that I think. I know I've been purposely doing
Speaker 1: it and I've never talked about it. But Dude, for me,
Speaker 1: what I did was really laid off on drinking and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. I think, like I'm having a little
Speaker 1: glass of because I can. I mean for me what
Speaker 1: I mean to each throne. And I think that for me,
Speaker 1: you know, became one of those things where you know,
Speaker 1: it can cloud your thoughts and stuff like that, and
Speaker 1: you know, I just stopped to stopped doing it for
Speaker 1: you know whatever. I just stopped doing it to be
Speaker 1: able to think more clearly. And I knew ro I
Speaker 1: wanted to go in life, and Bro, all I did,
Speaker 1: all I did for a month straight, and I would
Speaker 1: challenge anyone to do it is to whatever you're addicted to.
Speaker 1: Would have you know, social media always been whatever it is, dude,
Speaker 1: Like step away for thirty days, take a break, and
Speaker 1: all you have to do is just think about where
Speaker 1: you want to be in life. It doesn't have nothing
Speaker 1: in particular, like I want to be an NFL whatever,
Speaker 1: superstar basketball player or nothing like that. You just say,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to be in life, successful, meaningful, purposeful work,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, dude, and you just think about that
Speaker 1: every single day. Every day you weighed six hours out
Speaker 1: of the day naturally alone doing nothing, you know, thirty
Speaker 1: minutes to an hour out of the day. You can
Speaker 1: anyone can find just think about where they want to
Speaker 1: be in life. Truly, truly reiterates that you are the
Speaker 1: master of your own destiny. When you do things like
Speaker 1: that said, dude, you are. And you listen to anyone
Speaker 1: who successful, anyone. Jim Carrey perfect example. Before Jim Carrey
Speaker 1: got his first deal, he wrote himself a check for
Speaker 1: X amount of millions of dollars. Dude was home, was
Speaker 1: living out of his car, but what he would do
Speaker 1: every night was go up on the you know, Hollywood
Speaker 1: Hills and look at the Hollywood Sign and stuff like
Speaker 1: that and say, no, I'm gonna be here. Dude had
Speaker 1: nothing going for him, but just he wrote himself a
Speaker 1: check for X eight million or something like that with
Speaker 1: the date on it, and at that day it was
Speaker 1: off like a few weeks or a few days or
Speaker 1: something like that. But he got that much money off
Speaker 1: of dumb and dumber. And then I have I have
Speaker 1: stories that you know, other people that I hear that
Speaker 1: are like that. Nick is a super inspirational guy, I
Speaker 1: have to say. But I do want to get into
Speaker 1: some some news here that we were talking about. And
Speaker 1: and it's funny you were talking about like staying away
Speaker 1: from news that doesn't affect you, which I agree with,
Speaker 1: but of course I here, special ops stuff affects all
Speaker 1: of us. And I know you heard about this already, Nick.
Speaker 1: The two Navy seals from Seal Team six under investigation
Speaker 1: in the death of green Beret and Molly, which is
Speaker 1: Staff Sergeant Logan J. Melger Um, and it's being investigated
Speaker 1: as a homicide. So Jason and I were talking about
Speaker 1: it before the show. I saw what Jack Murphy wrote.
Speaker 1: I heard Jason's take, which we'll get into I'm wondering, uh,
Speaker 1: if you have any info. I saw that you wrote
Speaker 1: some stuff, but I don't know what is public and
Speaker 1: what's not. So I just want to hear your your
Speaker 1: take on it. Yeah, what uh with what? Uh? What
Speaker 1: we know Ian and and a few other people. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's not public. It's one of those things like special operations.
Speaker 1: There's certain things. I guess you gotta wait, you know,
Speaker 1: a certain time to talk about. But I mean, does
Speaker 1: that story surprise me from that unit? You can ask
Speaker 1: anyone in special Operations and I'm I mean you can
Speaker 1: look at the news from the past events that they've
Speaker 1: been you know, been in and I mean I think
Speaker 1: that have I had a bad experience with Sale Team six? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: of course. You know. I'm not gonna say how many
Speaker 1: are if there's just one or whatever, but I think
Speaker 1: anyone who's ever served with the A unit, like are
Speaker 1: you know, Sial Team six can say there's a few
Speaker 1: things on there that there's a few things that happen
Speaker 1: and stories that you hear within the community that you know,
Speaker 1: it is what it It's just it's those you know,
Speaker 1: it is what it is. I can't say too much
Speaker 1: about you know, what they have going on. I wasn't
Speaker 1: you know, in Seal Team six, but I do know that,
Speaker 1: you know, if you can ask other seals too, there's
Speaker 1: I know a lot of seals that have what nothing
Speaker 1: to do with Seal Team six. So yeah, I'm sure
Speaker 1: that speaks, you know, volumes when a Navy seal from
Speaker 1: Seal Team one through I have no idea or whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, and I know a lot of them and
Speaker 1: they some of them just don't want any part of them.
Speaker 1: But I will also say that I've had a chance
Speaker 1: to do numerous operations with them and and I've seen
Speaker 1: a chance, you know how, the chance to see these
Speaker 1: guys work, and they're good at what they do. They're
Speaker 1: they're good at what they do. They're really good at
Speaker 1: what they do. And my and Ian even because when
Speaker 1: I came in and he asked me what, you know,
Speaker 1: what my opinion was, and my opinion comes from a
Speaker 1: totally innocent side, because I know how retarded some of
Speaker 1: us can be overseas, especially you know, when you know
Speaker 1: and I'm there was nothing ever said about it being
Speaker 1: an alcohol related incident. Anything like that become outlets. Let's
Speaker 1: be honest we're talking about, you know, and they can
Speaker 1: get whatever the hell they want, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I just to me, it sounds like they were
Speaker 1: just wrestling, grappling and something went wrong and you know,
Speaker 1: and that's what it sounds like to me. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that's exactly what it was, because we all know
Speaker 1: some of these units, you know, they get in depth.
Speaker 1: You know, they get in depth in some of these places.
Speaker 1: Would you know, let's be honest, you know that's something
Speaker 1: that's going on in some of these places. But I
Speaker 1: think that's why it sounds like there's certain things we
Speaker 1: can't talk about. But I will tell you in Special
Speaker 1: Ops that once you get there, there's certain things that
Speaker 1: you know that even in range of battalion, like you know,
Speaker 1: every unit has some bad apples or whatever, and we
Speaker 1: do things and differently than other organizations. But when you
Speaker 1: get there and a community as tight as you know,
Speaker 1: speck ops, bro, it's like you disturbed, privy to different
Speaker 1: different things, different things there. And I think that I'm
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, I know what happened, But I've been
Speaker 1: contracting and I've been at an embassy, and you know,
Speaker 1: I know what they have there and what you're what
Speaker 1: you have access to. And I've also been on a
Speaker 1: Seal Team six compound and yeah in Afghanistan and probably
Speaker 1: they have it all like whatever you want, and that's
Speaker 1: what I was telling and Ian man like, you know, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's restricted, but you're talking about cream of the crop.
Speaker 1: Ain't no one's gonna deny these guys. And plus even
Speaker 1: if they do deny these guys, you you gotta understand
Speaker 1: where there's a will, there's a way with these motherfucker's
Speaker 1: So ill if they're wanted a F six team plane
Speaker 1: because they would get into have six team plane. No
Speaker 1: one has a license and knows how to fly it,
Speaker 1: but they lift that thing off the ground. And that's
Speaker 1: just they have it. They have act I mean those
Speaker 1: that's never gonna change because that's also a part of
Speaker 1: getting the job done. You know. Back in the day,
Speaker 1: we used to say or ship even now, um, we
Speaker 1: used to have sniper platoons used to be called state platoons,
Speaker 1: which was surveillance and target acquisition. Um. But yeah, we
Speaker 1: used to we used to say the acronym really stood
Speaker 1: for steel taking acquired because that's the only way we
Speaker 1: would actually get shipped done. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: We'll run around steal sandbags and water jugs and ship
Speaker 1: because you know we're not getting any love from our unit.
Speaker 1: We did the same. Yeah, and you look at our
Speaker 1: acronym for seals and you know other acronyms for seals,
Speaker 1: but our big one was regular Navy seals. Regular was
Speaker 1: just sleep eaten left bro. I don't know where it
Speaker 1: comes from, though, but I just I'm gonna call this
Speaker 1: one and say it was just a fucking terrible case
Speaker 1: of grab acts. I think, I think so, I personally
Speaker 1: think so. I don't think that it would have gotten
Speaker 1: that deep to wear. And plus it was on the
Speaker 1: it was on the embassy or the constantly, wherever the
Speaker 1: funk they were, you know. So to me it was like,
Speaker 1: you know, my dick is bigger than yours, and you
Speaker 1: know someone got choked out and passed out or fucking
Speaker 1: bumped his head on some ship. I've been choked out,
Speaker 1: you know, Jason, Like I could have been that, but
Speaker 1: you know I've been knocked the funk out by bigger
Speaker 1: motherfucker's man. Because you know, when you when you're drunk
Speaker 1: and in a room somewhere and you're just yelling at
Speaker 1: each other and fucking spewing, fucking Copenhagen each other's faces. Man,
Speaker 1: it gets real. Story. We get back from overseas and
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna mention a guy's name, but this is
Speaker 1: how bad it was. Like we were, you know, we
Speaker 1: had been drinking and stuff like that, and I'm looking
Speaker 1: for this PlayStation game at the time. It's PlayStation bro,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I can't find his game and I
Speaker 1: know one's mom sorry, it was my controller. And I
Speaker 1: was so pissed off. And I knew that this guy
Speaker 1: almost said his name. I knew he had it the
Speaker 1: last guy I gave it to. So I go into
Speaker 1: his room. He's knocked out, Bro, He's passed out, like
Speaker 1: done for the night, and I start smacking him in
Speaker 1: his space. I'm like, hey, get up, get up, you know,
Speaker 1: and I'm smacking him, smacking him, and then he stands up.
Speaker 1: He's like, IRV, do you do it again. I'm going
Speaker 1: to kill you. And we just got back from doing
Speaker 1: that thing that was killing, you know, like twenty four
Speaker 1: hours there ago, and I'm like, so we're sitting there
Speaker 1: going back and forth like little kids. Bro. I'm sitting here,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, where's my controller? Give it to me,
Speaker 1: Give it like little kids, man. And then finally I
Speaker 1: go this was a dumb move. This guy had been
Speaker 1: in the time for you know, some years. So I
Speaker 1: go into his kitchen and I grab a knife. I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, bro, you don't want to get my controller.
Speaker 1: I'm slicing your up, you know, to cut your throat.
Speaker 1: So he's like, bring it. So he gets his knife,
Speaker 1: a pocket knife from under his pillow or something like that,
Speaker 1: and we're swearing from bro. It was like a hand
Speaker 1: grenade from a anchor man, you know. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: we're sitting there, we're squaring off, dude. And finally the
Speaker 1: smarts kicked in because I could see it in his eyes.
Speaker 1: If I go after him, he's gonna do some ni
Speaker 1: jitsu move and he's gonna slice my throat and cut
Speaker 1: my head. I don't know, bro, but I could tell
Speaker 1: that he was really gonna, you know, kill me. I
Speaker 1: was just trying to pose a threat like that. I
Speaker 1: just want my controller. But you know, I got a knife.
Speaker 1: You've got a knife. I can see where this is going.
Speaker 1: You know, there's a sober and his kicked in, so
Speaker 1: I just like, you know what, tomorrow, it's overbro, it's done,
Speaker 1: walked out the room. I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: my heart was beating so fast. And I watched him
Speaker 1: that next night literally kicked the ship out of someone. Literally,
Speaker 1: like there's a fight in the barracks room and there's
Speaker 1: fights all the time being you're drinking out and we're
Speaker 1: we we deployed together and this fight's breaking out. But
Speaker 1: he hits the guy. I'm not sure if he kicked him,
Speaker 1: our at him, but in his stomach somewhere and this
Speaker 1: role is ball rolls into our kitchen me and my
Speaker 1: roommate's name nickname was cheese, and it rolls into the kitchen.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh my gosh, just shut him. So after
Speaker 1: after the fight, bro, and it's been kicked around and
Speaker 1: during the fight, and this is it's a perfect ball
Speaker 1: like it brow with outomous pins with flops grow and
Speaker 1: pop into the kitchen. So we're sitting there the fights
Speaker 1: over and me and FS are like, get back here.
Speaker 1: You cleaned your ship up, you know all this and that,
Speaker 1: and he's all messed up, but like now just go
Speaker 1: back to your face is all messed up, bro, And
Speaker 1: he goes into this room. So me and Cheese are like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, she's gonna pick this ball of shut up.
Speaker 1: So it's set there. But I was like, dude, I'm
Speaker 1: not doing it. There's no I don't touch I don't
Speaker 1: touch the ship. You know, I don't touch that bodies, bro,
Speaker 1: I have a thing about that. So he finally picked
Speaker 1: it up, dude, and it chucked it. Yeah, it happens
Speaker 1: all the time. And and and you know altha males
Speaker 1: man in Spanish, we call it him a home bro.
Speaker 1: And in the constant it in her bill, I've seen
Speaker 1: a fistfight over the placement of a trash can. That's
Speaker 1: how ship gets tense. Motherfucker put a trash can in
Speaker 1: front of like the common room, and then someone's like
Speaker 1: room was right next to that at the door, and
Speaker 1: he was like, pissed, the trash is there, so he
Speaker 1: moved it by the kitchen. The motherfucker saw that he
Speaker 1: moved by the kitchen and moved it back to the room.
Speaker 1: And next year, no fucking World War three broke out.
Speaker 1: I'm like, are you guys fucking kidding me? Because dude,
Speaker 1: true and false tensions are so fucking high. When you're
Speaker 1: overseas for like three or four months at a time,
Speaker 1: you're away from your loved ones, man, and you're dealing
Speaker 1: with the dumbest little was bullshit. On top of that,
Speaker 1: you're dealing with life of death situations, and then you
Speaker 1: come home and it's like everything is like such a
Speaker 1: big deal, dude. It's like guys can't really rationalize. Oh dude,
Speaker 1: people start getting in the fights over just anything. Anything
Speaker 1: bro like that. That that trash can story is perfect,
Speaker 1: like the smallest thing. It's just anything. It's like prison.
Speaker 1: It's like if I always used to say it was like, man,
Speaker 1: if I ever go to prison, I'm not really going
Speaker 1: to care. I've already been there. If a military career
Speaker 1: in prison, you know, that's what it felt like. We're institutionalized.
Speaker 1: I think that's what they call it. Where we wake
Speaker 1: up a zero dark thirty and we fucking eat at
Speaker 1: the same time. We do the same thing every day.
Speaker 1: We have all these fucking unrealistic restrictions on us. You know,
Speaker 1: our client fucking could walk around drunk, fucking fingering women
Speaker 1: and ship and where all here. I have to watch
Speaker 1: that because we can't deal with it. You know, and
Speaker 1: it's like, this sucks. We got guys robbing banks and
Speaker 1: it's affecting everyone in an entire regiment. Bro, Like, it's
Speaker 1: so petty, Like, dude, when was at what time in
Speaker 1: your job if you went to work it, let's say
Speaker 1: Bank of America, I don't know, someplace like that, and
Speaker 1: one employee is like, you know what, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: out and I'm gonna drink and drive and get arrested.
Speaker 1: The boss does not calling, you know, everyone of them whatever. Hey,
Speaker 1: you know, this is it. You guys are no weekend
Speaker 1: lock peop in here and we're just gonna sit. You
Speaker 1: don't get that anywhere else. It's institutionalized. And then you
Speaker 1: release all these you know guys back into society and
Speaker 1: you're like, all right, go function, go, go be fine,
Speaker 1: go have fun. You know, took a lot of problems
Speaker 1: when you get out on that note. And that's what
Speaker 1: I was telling Ian. The whole reason why fucking contractors
Speaker 1: or red stripes, you know what I'm talking about when
Speaker 1: you go to an embassy or something like that, why
Speaker 1: they're not allowed to drink, you know, is because of
Speaker 1: what occurred a few years ago in Iraq where one
Speaker 1: fucking dude got trash and fucking shot his best friend. Dude,
Speaker 1: we had when I was contracting guys a Dan, we
Speaker 1: had people, people going out getting drunk on you know,
Speaker 1: downtown bagdad. Bro Like, oh, yeah, I believe it. Remember that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I believe it. And and that's what and that's all
Speaker 1: the all that ship just comes down to pipe. And
Speaker 1: now it's to the point where we can't fraternize women,
Speaker 1: we can't drink, we can't do blah blah blah, X
Speaker 1: and X Y and Z, but our client fucking relations
Speaker 1: to do whatever they want. Yeah, you know it. Bro,
Speaker 1: is like related, dude, girl, I ever get into the stories.
Speaker 1: But dude, you're talking about Seals, Rangers, Green Berets, Delta.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're bearded out broad. You get a chance
Speaker 1: to be around all these guys, and then there's two girls,
Speaker 1: and Bro, it's unbelievable. Like I'm gonna say, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna say it. Look funk that. Let me tell you this,
Speaker 1: And I don't think you know how this world works,
Speaker 1: all right, fucking power Rain Supreme and this motherfucker. All right,
Speaker 1: So let's just say you're on a compound with a
Speaker 1: bunch of fucking and you know, no homo when I
Speaker 1: say this, all right, but you're on a fucking compound
Speaker 1: with a bunch of diesel fucking alpha males, bearded out,
Speaker 1: fucking squatting six hundred fucking pounds, you know, Yeah, And
Speaker 1: you're competing. You're some old fucking silver head fox motherfucker
Speaker 1: from like the Department of State, and you're competing with
Speaker 1: these guys for pussy yep, and these guys are super
Speaker 1: and and at that point in time in my life,
Speaker 1: I was I was deadlifting too much weight. I thought
Speaker 1: I broke my spine. One day I was deadlifting. No, Joe,
Speaker 1: bro Like, what was my max? Dude was like four
Speaker 1: something and I'm only you know, I'm only the most
Speaker 1: I've ever Wight was one eighty. Yeah, that's a that's
Speaker 1: a phenomenal amount of weight. But I'm pretty sure I
Speaker 1: messed up my back that day. I was on some
Speaker 1: How tall are you about? Like five three five four three? Godly, bro?
Speaker 1: You gave me no, you gave me fun size and
Speaker 1: you're short. How tall are you? Seven? Seven? Okay? Well
Speaker 1: there you go. Not that all That's how I would
Speaker 1: at least you ain't. You ain't say you ain't say
Speaker 1: his arms are like seven inches, which is true exactly.
Speaker 1: But that's why when he's talking about his weight, but
Speaker 1: for his size, it's got it in quick that And
Speaker 1: I'm like, I've been boxing, dude, I'm thinking about going
Speaker 1: for my Now, I'm not going to bring that up,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's been boxing for a while. Why you
Speaker 1: never why you never went with the guys over to
Speaker 1: London to represent bro? What's up? I just wasn't in
Speaker 1: it that that, dude. I was going through a lot
Speaker 1: of business stuff that man, Yeah, you're too famous to
Speaker 1: get punched in the face. That's what I told Brandon
Speaker 1: this last time. I said, look here, man, I did
Speaker 1: it last year. I was nobody. Last year I got
Speaker 1: a book out. I gotta stay pretty baby, all right?
Speaker 1: I think match. I was in Battalion's uh bike club
Speaker 1: and that was like they parted me up, had a
Speaker 1: sparring match, and they partoned me up with this one
Speaker 1: guy forget his name, dude, but he used to No
Speaker 1: one told me this at the time, true story. Uh
Speaker 1: hooked me up with this guy and had no idea
Speaker 1: about his background here like or if you're gonna beat
Speaker 1: his ass? Bro? Even boxing from the streets man all
Speaker 1: this sunn that, and I'm like, yeah, they all right.
Speaker 1: I I am pretty good with the left and the right.
Speaker 1: So step into the ring with this guy and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, filling him out, filling them out. He's looking
Speaker 1: like he's he's not really into it. And he hits me, Bro,
Speaker 1: and I swear to you, I felt it down to
Speaker 1: the tips of my toe nails, to the very crown
Speaker 1: of my head. And he hit me in the body
Speaker 1: like I went for a jab and then a right boom.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm about to knock this guy out, small
Speaker 1: as a Mexican dude and hit me in my ribs
Speaker 1: and I played it off. Bro played it off. Go
Speaker 1: back and they're like, hey, you know that he used
Speaker 1: to box professionally. He opened up on showtime a few
Speaker 1: times for some big fight professional boxer. Bro. He's never
Speaker 1: lost the boxing match in our rain from me. So
Speaker 1: I went back out there around two and this is
Speaker 1: where I do in the personal towel, Bro. I didn't quit,
Speaker 1: but I mean I quit. I was just like, you
Speaker 1: know what this is. It's not for me. I don't
Speaker 1: know what he hit me with, Bro, but it was
Speaker 1: one of the fastest. I don't know how many times
Speaker 1: he hit me. He was like three or fifty, but
Speaker 1: he hit so fast, and each one of them had
Speaker 1: like it was like a brick. Bro. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, what am I getting hit with? And
Speaker 1: then I just see black and then I see the
Speaker 1: top of I think it was a serially and then
Speaker 1: I'm turned around, bro, and then I see him again.
Speaker 1: Then I'm back turned around and then boom. I just
Speaker 1: saw like all these images have jo I almost knocked
Speaker 1: out twice last year about that fucking Matt dude. Man,
Speaker 1: that s a s fun man. That dude's been boxing
Speaker 1: since he was a kid, and I didn't know. I'm
Speaker 1: alway here. I trained in Afghanistan for three fucking months,
Speaker 1: you know, that was my training. I got in the
Speaker 1: ring with this guy and I never felt that close
Speaker 1: to being fucking put to sleep. But yeah, So we
Speaker 1: have part two of that remembrance rumble on on Veterans
Speaker 1: Day or Remembrance Days they call it in the UK.
Speaker 1: But just to get back to the Seal Team six stuff. Um,
Speaker 1: I just had a couple more things I wanted to
Speaker 1: get into it that I'm wondering, you know, you're talking
Speaker 1: about kind of the culture of Seal Team six, and
Speaker 1: I get where you were saying that they could basically
Speaker 1: get whatever they want. But it's kind of interesting to
Speaker 1: me because the guys who were in Seal Team six
Speaker 1: when you were in in the Rangers, Like, this is
Speaker 1: a completely different group of guys now, but but from
Speaker 1: what you're saying, it sounds like it's still the same culture.
Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a culture like you know, I
Speaker 1: was in with guys who uh, you know, fault in
Speaker 1: Somalia and stuff like that, and they left, and then
Speaker 1: the guys before them, but the culture never never changed,
Speaker 1: like when you come to battalion, bro. Well not with
Speaker 1: all the PC stuff, it's a little different. But back
Speaker 1: then or when I was in and before the you know,
Speaker 1: placification of the military, it was like, no, you're gonna
Speaker 1: get beat, bro, You're going to get beat, like physically,
Speaker 1: people might die, you know what I'm saying. And it
Speaker 1: was just that culture of you're a new guy, go
Speaker 1: touch this, uh squad's wall and there's five, six, seven
Speaker 1: dudes in there. You're gonna get jumped, bro, You're gonna
Speaker 1: get jump and you just gotta eat it, and it's
Speaker 1: a daily, daily thing. You just get beat. That not
Speaker 1: necessary or not Nick, It is very necessary because I'll
Speaker 1: tell you why. I'll tell you why I wanted to.
Speaker 1: I mean, I grew up. My parents banked me. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. They when they grew up, they
Speaker 1: got beat by like extension Corps and that had that
Speaker 1: treatment once or twice. But I mean like it made
Speaker 1: me who I am. And I'll tell you that. You
Speaker 1: know the rule in my house if you know a
Speaker 1: perfect example, if if I got into a fighting school,
Speaker 1: which I did quite often, if I ever lost my
Speaker 1: mom and my dad said, when you come home, we're
Speaker 1: gonna beat your ass, and then you're gonna go back
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna beat their ass and we're gonna
Speaker 1: you know, it's just it's an ongoing thing. But I
Speaker 1: think that in battalion, like we had a class of
Speaker 1: eight plus guys and we graduated seven and we got
Speaker 1: beat bro like guys, just physically beat physically bro And
Speaker 1: I think that it made us who we are today
Speaker 1: and and and and just that hard guy. And the
Speaker 1: wars that the type of wars we fight. Man, it's
Speaker 1: like you have to be an animalistic guerilla warfare. Just
Speaker 1: nasty animal you have to be and if you're not that,
Speaker 1: you get over there. And we've had this, bro. When
Speaker 1: they started to do that little change in the training,
Speaker 1: are are making a little bit more, oh stress card this.
Speaker 1: It's like we started getting these new guys in and
Speaker 1: that's when you know I'm drawing my flag and like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm out of here, bro, because you start
Speaker 1: to see these new guys come in and you know
Speaker 1: we're on a two click for pick in field our
Speaker 1: X field and they're like, oh, I needed my crutch profile,
Speaker 1: no ship, bro. Like the next day, I see this
Speaker 1: guy on crutches, dude, after he he twisted his ankle
Speaker 1: or something running on the ramp of A forty seven
Speaker 1: after an ambush. I'm like, what, dude, I Mark you
Speaker 1: know I did a twelve mile rock run to stress ractors.
Speaker 1: Messed up ankle, uh, messed up X Y and Z bro.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, dude, you're telling me I have a
Speaker 1: twisted ankle. I've had broken bones, man, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And and running eight miles are five miles
Speaker 1: to pass the PT test that that's nothing was twisted ankle. Dude,
Speaker 1: come on, So one of my best sniper guys he
Speaker 1: got shot in his freaking head. Dude got shot in
Speaker 1: his head, fell awful, letter, got back up, killed him
Speaker 1: with a grenade and called it up on the on
Speaker 1: the calm. So if I could give some some more
Speaker 1: background on the CEL Team six thing, because we've talked
Speaker 1: about it before in the show. Um, a lot of
Speaker 1: you guys in the audience might remember there was this
Speaker 1: piece in the New York Times about like war crimes
Speaker 1: of c L Team six. It was very controversial. Jack
Speaker 1: Murphy has written about this type of thing, um, you know,
Speaker 1: and then we had guys like Scott McEwen on the
Speaker 1: show saying, you know, hey, you're you're sending guys to
Speaker 1: do the toughest job in the world. Uh, things are
Speaker 1: gonna get pretty nasty. Uh. And I talked with Jack
Speaker 1: about this. He wrote articles about it, and he was saying,
Speaker 1: you know, it was more than what should be allowed basically.
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm gonna refer back to this Facebook post
Speaker 1: that Jack just wrote. Um, I think it might have
Speaker 1: been yesterday on Facebook, just so that I can get
Speaker 1: both your reactions on it. But Jack wrote, um, hey,
Speaker 1: Facebook friends. Remember years ago when I started investigating war
Speaker 1: crimes and Seal Team six, Remember how you told me
Speaker 1: to knock it off because I was violating ops seck.
Speaker 1: Remember how you told me to shut up because I
Speaker 1: was in violation of the Ranger creed embarrassing my country
Speaker 1: by speaking out. Remember when I said that this unit
Speaker 1: has some serious problems with illegal killings, drugs, money laundering,
Speaker 1: and a ship ton of other issues. And most of
Speaker 1: my peer group literally told me to funk off and
Speaker 1: made me a riya. I remember, And here we are
Speaker 1: and referring to what we saw, these two Davy Seals
Speaker 1: killing staff Sergeant Logan and Jay Melger allegedly. And you
Speaker 1: know what I with. The first thing that came to
Speaker 1: my mind when you have read that out loud was Hollywood.
Speaker 1: You looked at Hollywood and how many people have come
Speaker 1: out and said, hey, and we've all known it. You know,
Speaker 1: we're just as guilty. We knew that there is a
Speaker 1: problem going on in the industry. Everyone knew, and you
Speaker 1: hear that the people come out and talk about it, like, hey,
Speaker 1: there's pedophilia going on all whatever doing on in Hollywood?
Speaker 1: You know? And what what happened to those people when
Speaker 1: they came out initially and said it. At first, they
Speaker 1: were shunned, they were they were taking shut up. And
Speaker 1: where we are today now everybody wants to talk about it.
Speaker 1: There's no different, there's no different. There's also I'm not
Speaker 1: going to say his name because I don't know how
Speaker 1: public key is about it. But a colleague of yours,
Speaker 1: you know that, I know that you know who got
Speaker 1: molested by a guy at the b A and he's
Speaker 1: come out about this, and I'm not you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna saying his name, so that, like I said,
Speaker 1: I don't know how public he is about the whole thing.
Speaker 1: And hopefully we'll have him on soon. But you know,
Speaker 1: these are tough guys, are army rangers, are green berets,
Speaker 1: and like that is going on, and they're afraid to
Speaker 1: come out, but they're like, you know what, something needs
Speaker 1: to be done about this, and I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go to a court and get this fucker out of
Speaker 1: the b A exactly, and and do he fought for
Speaker 1: so long like I was on the set his name,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean I know the guy personally, and
Speaker 1: that's not a he's not a soft guy people in
Speaker 1: the face a lot, you know, and he's not a
Speaker 1: soft guy. And I've you know, I've heard stories and
Speaker 1: then I've also seen him at bars. Not a big guy,
Speaker 1: but he's not the not the kind of guy that
Speaker 1: you know, if you're not willing to go all the
Speaker 1: way to death, don't pick on him, you know. And uh,
Speaker 1: hearing that story was like what And I know him personally,
Speaker 1: and uh, he was the one, you know, one of
Speaker 1: the only very few, I guess you would say, to
Speaker 1: come out and talk about it. And initially it was like,
Speaker 1: you know, a hush hush thing. Everyone wants to put
Speaker 1: it on a the under the rug for a little
Speaker 1: bit because they know how big it's gonna get if
Speaker 1: it does get out. And it just takes that one
Speaker 1: and people say, you know, when you look at our
Speaker 1: life and and and being I guess a human in general, bro,
Speaker 1: and they say, you know, no one ever believes they
Speaker 1: have the power to do anything when I talk about
Speaker 1: the whole self worth self worth thing earlier, like, no
Speaker 1: one if you think about it at the whole Hollywood
Speaker 1: thing and the seal team or whatever you want to
Speaker 1: talk about when it applies to something of that nature. Bro,
Speaker 1: It's like no one realizes their self worth and value,
Speaker 1: the value that that that that some one person can
Speaker 1: change something, you know what I mean, from a thought
Speaker 1: or from from an action. You know Steve Jobs, you
Speaker 1: know he changed the world, bro, Microsoft, Bill Gates, they
Speaker 1: changed the world, even Mark Sargenberg, regardless of what you
Speaker 1: think about him. You know, one person has that power
Speaker 1: and it doesn't You don't have to make a tech company,
Speaker 1: you don't have to do anything. Speaking up are talking
Speaker 1: about something that's wrong, even though it may not be
Speaker 1: a hot topic at the time. You know, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure writing um you know at the front of
Speaker 1: the bus was on a hot top, bigger our thing
Speaker 1: to do back when Rosa Parks did it, but she
Speaker 1: still did it, you know what I mean. And I
Speaker 1: think I think, yeah, you know, it's just that self
Speaker 1: worth thing and uh self worth and I think that
Speaker 1: you know, uh people or if you see something wrong,
Speaker 1: you know something, you know something's going wrong. Like for me,
Speaker 1: I know that alcoholism is a big problem, not just
Speaker 1: in the self community, but in the veteran community as
Speaker 1: a whole. Bro. And I'm a big advocate, you know,
Speaker 1: I talked about it now, and I talked about my
Speaker 1: struggle with alcohol where it led me. Bro, I was
Speaker 1: making dumb amount of money at a very young age,
Speaker 1: you know, contracting and stuff. You know, the two percent
Speaker 1: of America and all gone, all gone in the matter
Speaker 1: of no joke, bro, like less than a year. And
Speaker 1: that's what I want to say. I agree with you there,
Speaker 1: because it takes a certain amount of courage to be
Speaker 1: able to be that trail blazer when it comes to
Speaker 1: the when it comes to the vulnerability, you know, and
Speaker 1: when I when I when I talk about my my drinking,
Speaker 1: when I talk about my infidelities to the women I
Speaker 1: was with, when I talk about all that I I
Speaker 1: do that, and you know whatever, I'm not patting my
Speaker 1: own back, but fuck, it took a certain amount of
Speaker 1: courage to fucking expose myself to the world because it
Speaker 1: was a bigger picture. It was. It was my message
Speaker 1: to the guys that I've fallen in trace to me.
Speaker 1: You know, it was my message to tell them, Bro,
Speaker 1: you're okay because I was there. You know, I was
Speaker 1: where you were. Man, It's just fucking normal. But you
Speaker 1: gotta get up and overcome this ship. And that's why
Speaker 1: I had to say that. You know, you have to
Speaker 1: be the first motherfucker to admit we're not perfect, you know.
Speaker 1: And and the reason we are where we are is
Speaker 1: because of the ship we've been through. In the ship
Speaker 1: we've seen exactly and I think that a lot of
Speaker 1: people are are not a lot. But you talked about
Speaker 1: the veteran community, where it's supposed to be a macho
Speaker 1: type thing, and you know that rand is a looked at.
Speaker 1: We we come from a time where after two thous one,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, you're a veteran, thank you for your service,
Speaker 1: or you're in the military, thank you for your service.
Speaker 1: And you know we've been built up to that, and
Speaker 1: you don't want the public eye to see that, you know,
Speaker 1: that little bit of dirty gap going on back there
Speaker 1: that Hey, everyone sees the twenty two or whatever you
Speaker 1: want to call it a day suicide rate in the
Speaker 1: veteran community, but no one really really wants to talk
Speaker 1: about it. What is the end calls? I can tell
Speaker 1: you from my experience, all the guys that I know
Speaker 1: who have committed suicide personally good friends of mine, bro.
Speaker 1: Alcohol was the you know, was the common denominator, and
Speaker 1: all of it was alcohol and then I'm not saying
Speaker 1: alcohol is a is the the key factor, but I
Speaker 1: think that it also has a Well it's all in
Speaker 1: the mind. And I think that the same reason why
Speaker 1: we don't want to talk about that so much is
Speaker 1: the same reason why the NFL doesn't want to talk about,
Speaker 1: you know, brain damage and why they're committing suicide and
Speaker 1: doing dumb stuff after so many hits of the head.
Speaker 1: But yet you can have a spec opsky go eat
Speaker 1: you know, see four charges twenty five ft away five
Speaker 1: consecutive times on deployment, you know, concussions. I just I
Speaker 1: just maybe we I don't know. There's so much that
Speaker 1: I want to talk about and get out there. And
Speaker 1: it's not the show anyone or make anyone look bad,
Speaker 1: but it's like, hey, there's a bigger issue. It's always
Speaker 1: bigger than you. You know, when you die, bro, and
Speaker 1: when I die, and and I lived at the age
Speaker 1: of seventies six eighty, you do the same thing. What
Speaker 1: was that all word? What was that eighty years of knowledge? Game? For?
Speaker 1: What did you learn that who's gonna remember you after
Speaker 1: you die? You know? Who? Who did you help along
Speaker 1: the way? You know? And that's what And the same man,
Speaker 1: that's crazy because that's the same goal I have is
Speaker 1: just let someone else that has walked my path know that, bro,
Speaker 1: there's light at the end of the tunnel. I have
Speaker 1: that funk that exactly, you know what. I still have
Speaker 1: the same block bro almost you know, try taking my
Speaker 1: life with But I think that knowledge is everything, whether
Speaker 1: it's good or bad. Because everyone has a story to tell.
Speaker 1: You're gonna learn two things from that that that story,
Speaker 1: what to do, what not to do. Everyone has a story, brodde.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you what I tattooed. I tattooed this
Speaker 1: fucking skull on my hand, and I tell people that,
Speaker 1: you know, I I tattooed my hand, so I I
Speaker 1: just I won't go back into the military. But the
Speaker 1: truth is my right hand is the hand that created
Speaker 1: so much devastation in my life. For one, it's it's
Speaker 1: my trigger. You did the same thing, my whole right arm.
Speaker 1: It's got the reapers go all the death stuff that
Speaker 1: I rolled up those fucking twining out of bills would
Speaker 1: and fucking blew through those lines. It's the hand that
Speaker 1: I rolled that fucking weed up. What is the hand
Speaker 1: that I fucking take those shots of fucking liquor. What
Speaker 1: it's that hand, and it reminds me that that's the
Speaker 1: fucking hand of destruction, you know. And when I look
Speaker 1: at it every time, it keeps me in line. You know.
Speaker 1: But I would, I would, I would counter that with this, though, Jason,
Speaker 1: is that is that? Is that more of a remonding
Speaker 1: because you gotta think about the subconscious and how how
Speaker 1: powerful the mind is. If I were to tell you,
Speaker 1: you know at a young age, are are from now?
Speaker 1: Then you know, if if you were to write down
Speaker 1: on a piece of paper, you know, uh, let's say,
Speaker 1: if you wanted uh something in life, a goal, you
Speaker 1: won't that one go down on a piece of paper,
Speaker 1: put in your pocket, putting your wallet, putting your back pocket,
Speaker 1: moved on with your life. You wrote it down, You've
Speaker 1: seen it, you wrote it, you put the roads on paper.
Speaker 1: Now it's in your back pocket every time you go
Speaker 1: to touch a back pocket. Let's say, if it's in
Speaker 1: your wallet, subconsciously, bro, it's gonna send a signal to
Speaker 1: your brain to let you remember that goal. You don't
Speaker 1: have to always say it or whatever. So by you
Speaker 1: han't sing or writing it, you manifested into reality. So
Speaker 1: you're always for me when I realized, you know, I say,
Speaker 1: we have those chapters in life, bro, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So do I always do I want to
Speaker 1: stick on the same chapter in a book? Or do
Speaker 1: I want to keep my hand on one chapter, chapter five,
Speaker 1: and then read the rest of the book. But after
Speaker 1: every chapter I revert back to chapter five. That's a
Speaker 1: weird way of reading the book. You know, I would say,
Speaker 1: to get rid of negativity and to get rid of
Speaker 1: the alcohol or whatever. Bro, what if you change your
Speaker 1: whole concept of thinking that. You know what, every time
Speaker 1: I do look at this, and it doesn't mean that,
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean you remind me of all the beast stuff. Bro,
Speaker 1: you already know the best. And that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You've been there, so what's the point. So when you
Speaker 1: look at it, it's like, I've been there, I've seen
Speaker 1: the fucking outcome, I've seen what it produces. That dude, like,
Speaker 1: what's the point? And then you move on to other things?
Speaker 1: And then on your other hand you have your dog,
Speaker 1: and then on the other hand, I have my dog
Speaker 1: and all that. You know what I mean? Just so
Speaker 1: crazy that the way I went from fucking being who
Speaker 1: I was to like this soft bass, fucking tattoo artist.
Speaker 1: Fucking dad. I can't even fucking raise my voice on
Speaker 1: my daughter now, you know what I'm saying. It's like,
Speaker 1: but I made so many mistakes and it's but I love.
Speaker 1: I love where I'm at right now, but I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't love where I'm at if I didn't appreciate
Speaker 1: where it was. You know what I'm saying. Well, you
Speaker 1: know what I was gonna say when I was throwing
Speaker 1: this out there. That's kind of a trip. Is like,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure all three of us and our families
Speaker 1: probably have like men with these awesome, incredible stories. And
Speaker 1: I think of my grandpa, World War two veteran, you know,
Speaker 1: gunnery instructor. He wasn't like a combat um veteran or anything,
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, that era so and
Speaker 1: and awesome guy. And but but I thought about this
Speaker 1: kind of recently and I don't. I feel like all
Speaker 1: three of us don't care about fame, but maybe care
Speaker 1: about legacy. But this probably goes for all three of us,
Speaker 1: even though I'm not a veteran. When I think about it,
Speaker 1: I'm probably the most famous person in my family, and
Speaker 1: the same probably goes for both you, Like, did anyone
Speaker 1: in your family write a book? Jason? You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And it's an interesting thing when you think
Speaker 1: about legacy, like because I know now the definition of
Speaker 1: my great grandmother was married to Buddy Holly, though I
Speaker 1: make great grand aunt. Sorry, but never mind. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what I mean a hundred years from now. Uh
Speaker 1: if you know, my great great grade whatever grandchildren, if
Speaker 1: I have them, if they want, they could listen to
Speaker 1: like hours on end of me on softwap radio. And
Speaker 1: I don't have any of that with any of my ancestors,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And they'll they'll get a
Speaker 1: sense of who I am. Like there's so much on
Speaker 1: the internet of all three good or bad. I would
Speaker 1: say legacy I would define. I define it differently, and
Speaker 1: I just see it differently than well, you know what,
Speaker 1: what not the wrong with the way you define you
Speaker 1: know what legacy means? Definition for it? But I think
Speaker 1: that legacy is more about uh, you know, not what
Speaker 1: not necessarily what you leave behind about yourself. But it's
Speaker 1: like the knowledge of what you can leave behind to
Speaker 1: propel the next the next force, the next generation be
Speaker 1: able to go back and read you know, great great
Speaker 1: granddad Nick Irving's book. You know, But but what did
Speaker 1: they get from that? Yeah, they get a cool story.
Speaker 1: They get a chance to see who I was. But
Speaker 1: what did that do for them? But they go to
Speaker 1: hear this conversation they could dig up this conversation right
Speaker 1: here about like which just kind of that you know,
Speaker 1: not just the family, but the guys that walked in
Speaker 1: our past. You know what I'm saying. It's cool to say, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm not that fucked up, you know what. I just
Speaker 1: that's what I want to do it for guys. And
Speaker 1: it's all about help. It's all about help man. And
Speaker 1: I mean when you die, what happens They you disintegrate,
Speaker 1: You go back to the earth, You turn back the
Speaker 1: soil and then what you know what happens after that?
Speaker 1: That that soil has been blowing around over the road
Speaker 1: many many times. Eventually it has settled down and they
Speaker 1: become the nutrients and and the uh you know planning
Speaker 1: I guess pot or field for for a future three
Speaker 1: or something like that. What does that tree grew up
Speaker 1: to do? It grows up to live to be thousands
Speaker 1: of hundreds or thousands of years old, and what does
Speaker 1: that fucking tree do? Bro? Rems oxygen and it effects
Speaker 1: so much more, so much more people. So when you
Speaker 1: put into the dirt, eventually, no matter how you look
Speaker 1: at it, Bro, you're gonna become something. The plant they're
Speaker 1: going to they're gonna influence the action of a plant
Speaker 1: or contribute to a plant that plants going to affect
Speaker 1: so much more. You know it when you were on earth.
Speaker 1: Another name for that, bro, responsibility. Bro responsibility knowing, knowing
Speaker 1: that your words will have a fucking effect and an
Speaker 1: impact on someone. But it's crazy because I never knew
Speaker 1: I had this platform, you know. And I think I
Speaker 1: was telling Brandon the other day. Uh, some fucking a kid,
Speaker 1: you know, a guy man man, the fucking grown man
Speaker 1: hit me up on fucking Instagram a few months ago
Speaker 1: and it's like, Bro, I read your story and fucking
Speaker 1: shock factor and you inspired me to join the Marine
Speaker 1: Corps become a scott sniper. And I'm over here likechalant,
Speaker 1: like fucking oh word, Bro, so are you in the
Speaker 1: union now? He goes, Bro, I fucking got out. I'm
Speaker 1: working fucking delivering mail or some ship. This motherfucker read
Speaker 1: my ship got inspired, That's what he says. He got inspired,
Speaker 1: went into the Marine Corps, became a fucking scout sniper,
Speaker 1: went overseas, operated, came back home, got out, and now
Speaker 1: he's a fucking mailman and chapter in someone's life and
Speaker 1: the whole and the whole time. I'm over here, bullshit,
Speaker 1: and with my thumb up my ass, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, And I'm like, what how old that I want?
Speaker 1: You're always you know, I'm always moving forward, like like Nick,
Speaker 1: you know, I kind of I kind of like adopt
Speaker 1: that whole Bruce Lee ship. You know. I flow with water, bro.
Speaker 1: Whatever comes my way, I'm taking it, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Because if it's something that intrigues me, I'm
Speaker 1: into it. I'm gonna try it out because you never know.
Speaker 1: It's like sucking jiu jitsu, bro, if the armbar is
Speaker 1: not working, let it go work fucking an ankle log, bro,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But man, to even like
Speaker 1: hear that, it bugged me the funk out. Man, it
Speaker 1: was like what what I said, And to me, it
Speaker 1: was just like fucking yeah, throw my story in the book.
Speaker 1: I'll can tribute fuck it. And I'm still me. I'm
Speaker 1: not even tripping over it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Because like he said earlier, you Nick, you alluded to
Speaker 1: this earlier. It's like, it's not that big of a
Speaker 1: deal to you. You get the movie deals, you get
Speaker 1: the book deals, you get the fucking liaison deals to
Speaker 1: be sucking military liaisons and sucking shows like Seal Team,
Speaker 1: fucking Ship, you know what I mean. And you you
Speaker 1: get all this and to you, it's like, funk, it's
Speaker 1: just me, Bro, It's it's another people did this idea
Speaker 1: of I'm this type of way, this type of way, bro?
Speaker 1: Like no, man, like, I'm just I'm Did I meet you?
Speaker 1: When did I meet I met you a few years
Speaker 1: ago before your book even came out, and you met
Speaker 1: me when I wasn't jack Ship. I was like I
Speaker 1: use a voice on this fucking podcast like once, and
Speaker 1: then you were like the second episode and I wasn't shipped, Bro.
Speaker 1: I was in San Diego hustling in some fucking crackhead
Speaker 1: ass tattoo shops, you know, and yeah, bro, and it's
Speaker 1: like we weren't shipped, bro. And now look fucking fast forward.
Speaker 1: Who the fucking thought four or five years from now
Speaker 1: you know him then? And look where the funk we
Speaker 1: are because you know what, we go with the flow, bro,
Speaker 1: you know, we don't stop us and exactly, and I
Speaker 1: think that that's the large contributing factor, is that, like quitting,
Speaker 1: it's I don't understand what quitting is. And I would
Speaker 1: say that because quitting, to me my whole definition, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's basically ceasing the persists of a goal to
Speaker 1: the pursuit of a goal that your heart never really
Speaker 1: wanted or hurt in the first place. And I allude
Speaker 1: to are not allude, but I go onto the fact that,
Speaker 1: like that little voice that you Jason, ask yourself a
Speaker 1: question in your head. Don't say it out loud, but
Speaker 1: just ask yourself any question in your head right now?
Speaker 1: Did you ask it? Did you hear it? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: heard the voice. What did you hear that? My voice? Okay?
Speaker 1: Now I would I would say to you, how is
Speaker 1: that even possible? Because I heard something, but I didn't
Speaker 1: hear nothing exactly. So that's your belief. I can't tell you, know, Jason,
Speaker 1: that's physically that is, that is impossible for your ears
Speaker 1: to have hurt an auditory auditory sound that is deciphered
Speaker 1: by your brain because your ear. Drums are never affected
Speaker 1: by vibration. Right, It's impossible, But you tell me no, Nick,
Speaker 1: You're full of ship. I heard it. You can't tell
Speaker 1: me anything different. You believe that so much. You believe
Speaker 1: it so much so you know it's there. You know
Speaker 1: that voice is there. You can always go to it
Speaker 1: any point in time because you know it's a hundred
Speaker 1: percent without a doubt, it's there. Yeah, the pursuit of
Speaker 1: a goal. For me, I look at it the same way.
Speaker 1: If I don't fill it with my heart, if I
Speaker 1: don't hear it with that little voice in my head
Speaker 1: to say, hey, go for that, then I don't do
Speaker 1: it because I'm not I'm not I'm not there. I
Speaker 1: know that when I asked myself a question in my head,
Speaker 1: that's me. That's the that's the realist to you that
Speaker 1: you're ever going to ever gonna get. You know, that's
Speaker 1: the only person that can talk to you without moving
Speaker 1: their lips or make a sound, but you hear them
Speaker 1: on That's the only only person in the world. Is
Speaker 1: that thing inside your head. It's not a voice. It's impossible.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna transition off of this. I do. I I'm
Speaker 1: loving the step I think I feel come on Joe
Speaker 1: Rogan's podcast right now. But I love my transition. But
Speaker 1: before the transition, what you just said right now, like
Speaker 1: and this is what I was asking, This is why
Speaker 1: I was asking fucking Nick if he if he like
Speaker 1: subscribes to like Tim Ferris or those guys like that. Like, Bro,
Speaker 1: you're motherfucker's that have just knocked out goal after goal
Speaker 1: after goal. You start to become comfortable in your own skin,
Speaker 1: and then you start to analyze ship. You start to
Speaker 1: analyze life, and you know that your encounters with people
Speaker 1: in life, and you start to understand for ship on
Speaker 1: a more profound level. You know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: let me tell you something right now, Nick, You're on
Speaker 1: that path. Bro. I see you as a motivational speaker. Bro,
Speaker 1: absolutely so. But anyway, I do want to transition on
Speaker 1: to something else here because I do want to make
Speaker 1: sure we cover some really big news that's happening. I mean,
Speaker 1: we talked about the New York City Terroffs attack, Shale
Speaker 1: Team six stuff, But another big thing that happened earlier
Speaker 1: this week. US captures key militant in Benghazi attack, which
Speaker 1: is Mustafa Ali mom Um scheduled to be charged in
Speaker 1: federal court, will not go to guantanamobey. I know that
Speaker 1: this is a whole other topic from what we're talking about,
Speaker 1: but I wanted to make sure that we least cover
Speaker 1: it and and I wanted to hear your take on that.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean I think of guys like Chris
Speaker 1: s Pronto who will hopefully get on the next show,
Speaker 1: and if this gives them some closure that we're capturing
Speaker 1: these types of guys, yeah, I would. I would believe so, man.
Speaker 1: But I think that you know, if you ask me
Speaker 1: all like Chris, you know, uh Ranger, I know him good,
Speaker 1: you know, great, solid dude. I think if you were
Speaker 1: to ask him yet, he'd be happy. But I don't
Speaker 1: think that he feel that that Ason the deck. You know,
Speaker 1: uh is spondily in the hole. He's you know, he
Speaker 1: talks about it, and you know it's a big Hillary
Speaker 1: Clinton type thing and you know Scandling, we all know
Speaker 1: the story behind it. So I don't think that until
Speaker 1: that number one, on which I know is their list,
Speaker 1: is in the whole. You know, it's one of the thing.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, you killed you know, the HVT in Afghanistan.
Speaker 1: But you didn't get been lauden yet. Bro, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's how I would That's how I
Speaker 1: would compare it to how I would think. You know,
Speaker 1: Chris are one of the guys who was there, how
Speaker 1: they were refer at the end of the day, I
Speaker 1: hear where you're coming from, and I think from any
Speaker 1: motherfucker on the ground that's been on a two rain
Speaker 1: range two way rage. Bro, We'll think about it. It's
Speaker 1: like that motherfucker right there, he was born to hate me.
Speaker 1: His goal in life was to fucking kill me, and
Speaker 1: that is what it is. So Okay, I got him,
Speaker 1: But what else went wrong during that situation? And who
Speaker 1: else can be held accountable for that ship? And until
Speaker 1: that person is fucking held accountable, I'm not gonna sleep
Speaker 1: at night exactly. And that's exactly Yep, that's exactly where
Speaker 1: I'm going. Man. That's how I think those guys would
Speaker 1: feel this because I would feel that way if I
Speaker 1: were there, So I'm pretty sure that's where they would
Speaker 1: come from. It wouldn't mean nothing. I'm dude, I've killed
Speaker 1: a lot of guys, a lot of guys, but you
Speaker 1: still have a guess certain respect for those motherfucker's that
Speaker 1: you killed, because you know what, that's their bias, that's
Speaker 1: their life, that's what they were trained to do, that's
Speaker 1: what they were brought up to do. You know what,
Speaker 1: you want to come kill me, motherfucker, you can try whatever.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what. There was a there were
Speaker 1: a few who put up a really good fight to
Speaker 1: the point where I'm like, you know what this is it?
Speaker 1: I lost mine, But that sense of accomplishment of like
Speaker 1: it's a respect level, Like, dude, he put out a
Speaker 1: hell of a fight. I knew he showed up. There
Speaker 1: were some guys you wouldn't even know showed up to
Speaker 1: the fight, but there were some there was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he showed up. Respect, you know. And then last thing
Speaker 1: before we get out of here. I know I talked
Speaker 1: about it at the beginning of the show and I said,
Speaker 1: I wanted to hear a little bit more in depth. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, we're going pretty long here, but before we
Speaker 1: let you go, um Reaper Ghost Target with General Anthony
Speaker 1: Tata who goes by A. J. Tata as an author, Uh,
Speaker 1: you want to tell us a little bit about what
Speaker 1: the book is gonna be and Um, yeah, folks should
Speaker 1: definitely preorder it now. It's it's out May eight. Um,
Speaker 1: but give us a little bit of background on what
Speaker 1: it's all about. Yes, to anybody. You don't have to
Speaker 1: have read, you know, any of my previous books. But
Speaker 1: if you have the it's a novel. And if you
Speaker 1: if you have read the first one, I have a
Speaker 1: little cool to the twist to it. Uh. I know,
Speaker 1: a lot of guys I might even gonna put that
Speaker 1: out there that's too much, too much, But it's really
Speaker 1: really really I could hear. I could tell Nick is
Speaker 1: like calculating agains, he's speaking, he's like yet it's not
Speaker 1: the descriptions out there, but there's a little twist that
Speaker 1: the description does not have. Um of a little you
Speaker 1: know something I put in there for it's a cool twist, man,
Speaker 1: But essentially it's my story. You'll see a lot of
Speaker 1: connections between Dick Harwood and and his kills are. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had a certain rifle and and whatever. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of you know, correlation between me and him.
Speaker 1: But I think for a lot of guys in the military,
Speaker 1: this is where I went with the book. Was you know,
Speaker 1: after you get out, you had those would have, could
Speaker 1: have should have maybe I, you know, should have done
Speaker 1: this differently. And then you can the special operations. So
Speaker 1: it's like, what if I did do this and I
Speaker 1: couldn't talk about some of that stuff underneath the you know,
Speaker 1: nonfictional side. Maybe it's a combination of the two. I
Speaker 1: won't say, but I will say that, you know, Big
Speaker 1: Hardwood is set up um by an enemy. Maybe it's ME,
Speaker 1: maybe it's PTSD, maybe it is another outside source. But
Speaker 1: he's strategically taking out some really really high people businessmen,
Speaker 1: um you know around the area that I happened to
Speaker 1: be training, which is in Fort Bragg, training some special
Speaker 1: operation snipers. That's my new gig. Now are Big Hardwood's
Speaker 1: new gig and he's training you know it's Big Black
Speaker 1: or is he white boy? And then maybe I'm in
Speaker 1: the area I have me I suffered our Big Hardwood
Speaker 1: suffered from you know, uh explosion from you know uh
Speaker 1: I d attack in Afghanistan, got blown up, his spotter
Speaker 1: went missing, his rifle was never recovered. He wakes up
Speaker 1: in a hospital, bro and things are just not there.
Speaker 1: You get that little TB I thing and Black, our
Speaker 1: Big Hardwood, Black Star and take you know, he may
Speaker 1: or may not have been in a in an area
Speaker 1: where if you a CEO or a fortunate five hundred
Speaker 1: company or someone who of influence, it's you know, basically
Speaker 1: back and everything adds up because it's like I lost
Speaker 1: some rifle overseas, no idea where that went got blown up,
Speaker 1: but the amoor are the rifling and the syrial numbers
Speaker 1: and stuff like that all matched back to my rifle.
Speaker 1: I'm blacked. I don't know what happened, you know, what,
Speaker 1: what did happen? Are Big doesn't know what happened? Um?
Speaker 1: And maybe maybe there's a reoccurrence. And because the spotter,
Speaker 1: you know he was he went missing, the spotter he
Speaker 1: happens to resurface back up, and I'm like, what the heck?
Speaker 1: And it's starting to hit close to home. I'm starting
Speaker 1: to be investing. Are Big starting to be investigated by
Speaker 1: the guess you know, uh, Department of Homeland Security and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. And things are still happening. Things are
Speaker 1: still happening. My rifle is just happened to always be
Speaker 1: there in these shots. Are you know that's from a sniper? Uh?
Speaker 1: My spotter happens to resurface I don't know what his
Speaker 1: issue is. Our vic's spotter surfaces and maybe it's in,
Speaker 1: maybe it's not. Maybe who knows what happened, bro, But
Speaker 1: I will tell you this, It is a really really
Speaker 1: cool twist. And Brad Thor number one New York Time bestseller,
Speaker 1: you know, big famous time author, he got a chance
Speaker 1: to read it, and uh, he said it's one hell
Speaker 1: of a read and he couldn't put it down. And
Speaker 1: his quotes on the back of the book, and he
Speaker 1: would compare it to he said, think Jason Bourne and
Speaker 1: think Shooting Yeah, you know, bobbly swagger, and then get
Speaker 1: ready for one hell of a read. But it's not
Speaker 1: like those two guys. It's kind of a you'll get it.
Speaker 1: You'll get it when you read it. I spend a
Speaker 1: little vigilante is coming on. But I don't know. I
Speaker 1: didn't read the money. I was thin or maybe oh
Speaker 1: and uh, just so happens to be. This is another
Speaker 1: little cool twist I can throw out. There was most
Speaker 1: of the guys of them that Dick Harwood happen to
Speaker 1: be around, and these guys that are turning up dying
Speaker 1: happened to be part of some big time sex trafficking organization,
Speaker 1: So is it a hey, do we kind of turn
Speaker 1: a blind eye to what Big Hardwood may or may
Speaker 1: not be doing? Either way? You know he's taken out
Speaker 1: sex trafficking people. But then why is his a significant other,
Speaker 1: Big Hardwood's significant other or or someone like that? Is
Speaker 1: he killing them too? Or why? Why is one popping
Speaker 1: up in certain situations and some or not? What is
Speaker 1: he really doing? Is he tripping out? And to be
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. You gotta read hard.
Speaker 1: How hard to create a fictional world? Bro not hard?
Speaker 1: Because I lived there like ninety percent of the day anyways,
Speaker 1: So you got to visualize it while you were writing,
Speaker 1: and you got to see the stories in your mind
Speaker 1: and just lay it out articulately. Or I even I
Speaker 1: knew who Vic was, knew his you know what he
Speaker 1: looked like. I knew his background and knew all that,
Speaker 1: and I knew the story that you know may or
Speaker 1: may not have happened, it could have happened or something
Speaker 1: like that, and also knew that the time of uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we the day and age we live in
Speaker 1: now where terrorist attacks are are more and more frequent,
Speaker 1: and you know, things of that nature. And we have
Speaker 1: this whole veteran community thing where you know, there's a
Speaker 1: pt PTSD and guys have t behind and you hear
Speaker 1: stories about you know, the Seal Team six thing. Um
Speaker 1: a lot of that here in the news. And I
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, I can mix all this together,
Speaker 1: kind of shed some light on something, take people through
Speaker 1: a really really intense journey. And I think that, Uh,
Speaker 1: it took two years to write man, two years of
Speaker 1: a lot of thinking, two years of a lot of thinking,
Speaker 1: and uh, in this puzzle together, bro, And that's my
Speaker 1: average timeline if I'm gonna do something and present, because
Speaker 1: you don't really I don't believe in putting out a
Speaker 1: product that you have asked. Bro. Like, you're not buying
Speaker 1: not just buying a book or something like that, You're
Speaker 1: buying a piece of me. And you know I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: And if anybody wants to put their money into a
Speaker 1: Nick Irving or adjacent or whatever, me personally, if you
Speaker 1: want to spend something on that, BRO, I have to
Speaker 1: give you me. I have to give you a ten
Speaker 1: percent because if not, I let you down, it's not fair.
Speaker 1: I don't believe in bad business brot's just get it
Speaker 1: out in the open. We don't have ship. But that's
Speaker 1: the exactly. Yeah, we don't have asked anything, bro. And
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, being more creative with my
Speaker 1: mind and stuff like that, Dude, I think that, oh
Speaker 1: there's more to you know, there's more out there than
Speaker 1: just you know, the war stories and stuff like that
Speaker 1: are cool, bro, but you know, there's there's so much
Speaker 1: more that we can do in the veteran community than
Speaker 1: you know, to tell the story of X, Y and Z.
Speaker 1: That's you know, it's been told or whatever. Like what
Speaker 1: happened to the Picassos, bro, what happened to the you know,
Speaker 1: William Shakespeare is the you know, the grates of literature
Speaker 1: and stuff like that would happen to those guys. They
Speaker 1: did nothing but just used the creative mind. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that I'm the next or I'm not
Speaker 1: saying look at him and way look at himingway perfect path.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. He was he was a veteran,
Speaker 1: you know, he was a soldier and then got into
Speaker 1: you know, literature, you know, and it's just just showing
Speaker 1: guys that you know what you're you're more than what
Speaker 1: people classify you as. Exactly. Transcend these labels exactly. Bro,
Speaker 1: you're a killer and all this and that, but hey,
Speaker 1: you're a creative guy, been thinking and have a product
Speaker 1: out there that you know, even a perfect example that
Speaker 1: I grew up playing Rainbow six by Tom Clancy. Tom
Speaker 1: Clancy's people, Bro, they were they loved the book. His
Speaker 1: authors have written reviews for the book and stuff like that, Like, dude,
Speaker 1: this is it's up there, man, Like it's I don't
Speaker 1: have asked things, and I think my imagination in my mind.
Speaker 1: But just like I said, you have a lot of
Speaker 1: I have a lot of time to think about things
Speaker 1: more than some, more than some, So thinking to me, dud,
Speaker 1: it took two years to think of a two hour conversation.
Speaker 1: It's what me, what me and a j had. It
Speaker 1: was a two hour conversation. Then it was off to
Speaker 1: the road. But it took two hours to accumulate that thought.
Speaker 1: You know, the people on the other end, that the
Speaker 1: reader and people who pick it up or listen to
Speaker 1: it or something like that. Dude, you'll get a chance
Speaker 1: to see that. You know, it was a it's very
Speaker 1: well thought out. You know, I love chess ill you
Speaker 1: know openly and people know that from the first book.
Speaker 1: But I love chess and I look at life like chess,
Speaker 1: and I look at this book like chess. You know,
Speaker 1: there's what you think is there is not there, nothing
Speaker 1: is real. I will say that is nothing is real. Bro.
Speaker 1: It's very snipers, dude. I think people are going to
Speaker 1: be really amped for this. I mean it's a while
Speaker 1: until it comes out, but you could pre order now.
Speaker 1: It's May eighth, Reaper Ghost Target, a sniper novel with
Speaker 1: a J Tata and you guys, look back. A J
Speaker 1: was on the show before and he was an awesome
Speaker 1: guest as well. Um. You can follow Nick on Twitter
Speaker 1: at Irving Underscore, Nicholas on Instagram at Official Reaper thirty three.
Speaker 1: I don't have even have it in front of me,
Speaker 1: but that's right, right, Yeah, Yeah, that's right, yeah, Official
Speaker 1: Reaper thirty three. Anything else that you're plugging before we
Speaker 1: wrap this one up? No, man, I just know nothing, dude.
Speaker 1: Just positivity, bro. Positive. This is why I love Soft
Speaker 1: Prep Radio. You're like, there's no other interview you're gonna do.
Speaker 1: I mean, you see Nick on Fox News and everywhere else.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna get this content out of Nick anywhere else,
Speaker 1: and Nick, I will say this though, go ahead to
Speaker 1: finish real, man, I think that like, I don't know
Speaker 1: what my goal is or my my my overall path
Speaker 1: in life, bro, but I mean right now I would
Speaker 1: I would just say that Ryan met in life. Bro.
Speaker 1: Only took one small, one small change, dude. That was
Speaker 1: just positivity every day, dude, just something positive. There's just
Speaker 1: so much bullshit out there. You start looking at yourself
Speaker 1: and making use yourself better, telling yourself that you're fucking
Speaker 1: you're better than whatever situation you're in. Dude. Like things happen. Bro,
Speaker 1: I'm a living example and I've been practicing this way
Speaker 1: of whatever lifestyle or whatever dude for since things have
Speaker 1: been happening. So that's the secret, dude, and anyone can
Speaker 1: do it. Bro. Nick, you know, you know what I
Speaker 1: wrote down in my book for you know, projecting my
Speaker 1: thoughts into into the world. What's that. I'm still gonna
Speaker 1: come to Texas and drive your fucking Lamborghini, Bro. Bro,
Speaker 1: come down. I love you, Bro, the most guest on
Speaker 1: this motherfucker bro awesome man. Come down Bro anytime. Bro.
Speaker 1: Any I'm not gonna take it up to New York
Speaker 1: and drive anything crazy. I'll take keep up there. But
Speaker 1: it's got a flat tire and it's got the injin
Speaker 1: light on. But bro, I will bring that up there.
Speaker 1: You want to come down to text as I got
Speaker 1: plenty open road man. Yeah, thank you, my brother. I
Speaker 1: appreciate it, man, Thanks Nick. Oh yeah, anytime guys appreciate it. Man,
Speaker 1: appreciate it, dude, kick ass. Full interview with Nick Irving there.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, well you're taking your headphones up. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, we gotta wrap up here with throw
Speaker 1: a punch for the week. Of course, Oh shoah, I
Speaker 1: forgot about because you know, Nick felt like I sealed
Speaker 1: the deal there. Yeah, this is We're doing a full
Speaker 1: two hour podcast here. So the people up, bro, he
Speaker 1: really does Nick is great. Um So any of you
Speaker 1: who are like skeptical of how this podcast is gonna
Speaker 1: sound like this is. I think this is a pretty
Speaker 1: fucking solid episode. I could say I love Nick though, um,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna keep bringing on those caliber of guests.
Speaker 1: Um So before we wrap up, throw it punch of
Speaker 1: the Week. The funny thing that I was thinking about
Speaker 1: this is in the past, Jack Murphy was always like
Speaker 1: the level headed guy didn't get into a lot a drama,
Speaker 1: and it was usually branded doing the honors a throat
Speaker 1: punch of the week. I feel like something is shifted
Speaker 1: and he's become Brandon, has become very calm. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's one guy that they've been going back and forth.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say any names. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about on Instagram and stuff. But other than that,
Speaker 1: not a whole lot of drama. This seems like a
Speaker 1: little bit of drama going on with Jack. I don't
Speaker 1: really I personally don't know any of the guys a
Speaker 1: task and Purpose. But since Jack has been shooting his
Speaker 1: TV show and has been around, I figured we'd at
Speaker 1: least give a throat punch of the week in his honor.
Speaker 1: We need a sound for throat. We have one, just
Speaker 1: like you gotta be like like that. It's the one
Speaker 1: I've been using. I mean, if you want to send
Speaker 1: me over another say, and it's got to sound goofy. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: it's fun man. But um, all right, So I'll read
Speaker 1: Jack's entire epic post here about task and Purpose. Um,
Speaker 1: so here's what he wrote. I resisted. I resisted criticizing
Speaker 1: task and Purpose as I think, slamming companies that can
Speaker 1: be seen as competitors comes off his crass, but that
Speaker 1: ends tonight. After writing an article about self described communist,
Speaker 1: former Ranger and former West Point Cadets cadet Spencer Rappone,
Speaker 1: one of the Task and Purpose writers went out of
Speaker 1: his way to describe me as a racist and member
Speaker 1: of the alt right, which is it's so funny. Jack's
Speaker 1: been accused of being like a left wing liberal and
Speaker 1: now the member of the all right. Like he really
Speaker 1: does not get to get a break sometimes. So Alexander
Speaker 1: McCoy was seemingly apoplectic that I had called out Rappon
Speaker 1: for what he is, a communist infiltrator in the U. S. Army.
Speaker 1: I threw my bullshit flag at McCoy, He backed down,
Speaker 1: and I called it a day. Whatever. Then today Task
Speaker 1: and Purpose Senior editor Adam Weinstein gets his wine on,
Speaker 1: calling my work jingoistic and attempted to use my education
Speaker 1: against me, expressing disbelief that I attended the same college
Speaker 1: as he did. Well, we had, we might have gone
Speaker 1: to the same school, but clearly the similarities and there
Speaker 1: my life experiences must be far different than his. I
Speaker 1: take his pseudo intellectual horseship for exact actually what it is.
Speaker 1: To top it all off, both of these guys pull
Speaker 1: the same pacified let's be bros and get all unified
Speaker 1: when I call them out on their bullshit, Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: not buying that, not today, not tomorrow, not ever. I
Speaker 1: would have a lot more respect for them if they
Speaker 1: stuck to their guns instead of making fictitious claims about
Speaker 1: me and then trying to hug it out. One writer
Speaker 1: is one thing, but two is a pattern. It's funny
Speaker 1: because I've always tried to maintain a positive relationship with
Speaker 1: Task and Purpose. I know, I knew their former editor
Speaker 1: in chief. I've met their CEO, Zach Isku before. UM
Speaker 1: don't know if from pronouncing that right. Sure, our politics differ,
Speaker 1: but this is America. Express yourself how you want, that's
Speaker 1: your business. I suppose the outrage from Task and Purpose
Speaker 1: should come as no surprise considering the fact that those
Speaker 1: asked clients wrote an extended apology piece for opponent found
Speaker 1: here he links to it. At least their agenda is
Speaker 1: transparent and no, you can't hate America and our constitution
Speaker 1: while being a good soldier in the U. S. Army
Speaker 1: and a fucking story. So here it ends, no passive
Speaker 1: aggressive bullshit. Fuck this bubblegum military news site that is
Speaker 1: not that as zero sources and is really just a
Speaker 1: puppet of public affairs officers. Fuck Alexander McCoy, Fuck Adam Weinstein,
Speaker 1: Fuck Tesk and purpose for your information. Here's the real
Speaker 1: deal on rapponent. Uh is what these closet communists are
Speaker 1: so upset about. And then he gives his article. Um,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I'm sure you've seen the picture of this
Speaker 1: guy with the I think it's like a shake wavera shirt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go, and also holding up the communist manifesto book.
Speaker 1: And it's it's more than just one picture, like this
Speaker 1: guy literally subscribes to this So fuck that, bro. That's
Speaker 1: not what this fucking nation is about. This is a
Speaker 1: capitalist society. We fought long, hard and sacrifice many of
Speaker 1: millions of thousands of people to just get to where
Speaker 1: we are. To try to have this individual think that
Speaker 1: he can undo it by infiltrating or uh somehow getting
Speaker 1: to a position of influence, you know. And I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but my whole, my whole cried to battle once I
Speaker 1: saw those photos. Was kicked that fucker out of West Point,
Speaker 1: you know, which I think was Jack's as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, because we how can you say you serve
Speaker 1: this nation and yet oppose the nation. It's a he's
Speaker 1: a walking contradiction. Yeah, so throw a punch of the
Speaker 1: week from Jack Murphy, I guess would be to that
Speaker 1: guy and to task and purpose both those. I'll throw
Speaker 1: it out there. I don't know the people testing, but
Speaker 1: if Jack hates him, I hate them. That works to me. So, um,
Speaker 1: I just figured I would read that. Hopefully Jack will
Speaker 1: be back soon. He's been like m I A, he's
Speaker 1: a big Hollywood star now. Um. But yeah, I look,
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to episode three hundred because by then
Speaker 1: Fingers Crossed will have some new imaging that I'm working
Speaker 1: on with Kara our voice over check doing the you know,
Speaker 1: British voiceover which people and of Jason's name. Have my
Speaker 1: Alexa on British voice really hell yeah, I'd be like
Speaker 1: Alexa turned on the bedroom and she's like, okay, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I kind of got bit by the bug
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Speaker 1: know it originally said Brandon Jack and the rest of
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Speaker 1: we're like, why is your name not an intro? Aren't
Speaker 1: you kind of the host here? So yeah, it's gonna
Speaker 1: have all three of our names, which is point um. Alright,
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Speaker 1: it's funny that I'm I'm realizing doing a full two
Speaker 1: hour episode. I usually have like my full leader something
Speaker 1: you know, um jug of water, and like I'm needing
Speaker 1: it right now because now I just have my glass
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Speaker 1: You're more on Instagram than anything else. Yeah, I link
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Speaker 1: next few episodes, and as uh we end this, Jason
Speaker 1: and I are going to figure out who we're gonna
Speaker 1: book for the rest of the month. So I'm excited.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna gets some ship up in here. Listen, guys,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get some some vets in here that are
Speaker 1: doing great things. You know. I want to highlight veterans
Speaker 1: doing you know, pursuing the entrepreneur path. Um. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to get Jesse here the next uh, Jesse Davenport. If
Speaker 1: those of you who have read my book know that
Speaker 1: I admired the hell out of that guy right there.
Speaker 1: He's probably one of the best snipers as far as
Speaker 1: one shot, one kill uh comes to mind. He's probably
Speaker 1: one of the best snipers I've ever encountered. And he
Speaker 1: was my my partner, you know. And we're gonna get
Speaker 1: on the phone and we're gonna talk some ship, so
Speaker 1: you guys could look forward to that. Let me tell you, guys,
Speaker 1: I had a conversation with him yesterday in the gym,
Speaker 1: and man, my heart was racing the entire time because
Speaker 1: it was just nostalgia. No. I was on the phone
Speaker 1: with him because I was like if he was in
Speaker 1: the Bronx. You know he lives, he lives somewhere around
Speaker 1: North Carolina or whatever. So, um man, let me tell
Speaker 1: you a lot of I get a lot of guys
Speaker 1: hitting me up on my inbox asking me because the
Speaker 1: way my book ended, you know, as I wrote the book, Guys,
Speaker 1: you have to understand, I was in Afghanistan. It was
Speaker 1: a few years ago, a couple of years. Go. Um,
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't know of Jesse. I didn't hear
Speaker 1: of him. I didn't know of his exploits or what
Speaker 1: he's what he's done, you know. And I just recently
Speaker 1: came in contact with him. So a lot of guys
Speaker 1: hit me up and like, how's Jesse? Have you heard
Speaker 1: of him? And stuff like that. And let me tell
Speaker 1: you it's gonna be an awesome episode. Man. This is
Speaker 1: one of the baddest fucking snipers I've ever dealt with,
Speaker 1: you know, and the stories we have are gonna be
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