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Speaker 1: Did a couple of live shows and now think they're faded?
Speaker 1: Now calm down. Welcome back to another edition to Be
Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansus, and
Speaker 1: I'm joined in a room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler's back,
Speaker 1: Chris Westling and Greg Rosenthal. Well, what is up, boys?
Speaker 1: And that into hit a little too close to home?
Speaker 1: Yeah cut a little bit um, Mark Sessler, Welcome back.
Speaker 1: Did the Browns come back victory over the Jets, which
Speaker 1: I'm still salty about. It is the only reason I
Speaker 1: have yet to read your wonderful or what I'm told
Speaker 1: long torn long form about the Cleveland Browns and your
Speaker 1: life long fandom is because I'm not ready to touch
Speaker 1: the Browns after Thursday. But forget about that. For you
Speaker 1: that must have been life giving. Is that explain your
Speaker 1: comeback after the blood clot issue on Sunday? It does
Speaker 1: explain that they come back. The other is a change
Speaker 1: in thinking. I think I've told you guys for years
Speaker 1: that I had something of a fantasy where I hoped
Speaker 1: I would get her into some sort of low level
Speaker 1: accident or health issue that would put me into a
Speaker 1: hospital for months. I could just read books. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: just take to put the foot on the brake a little.
Speaker 1: And I have reversed my thinking. It was quite unenjoyable
Speaker 1: and I much more enjoy doing this. Do you think
Speaker 1: the big guy, the guy upstairs, uh was smiting you
Speaker 1: a little bit there? Might it might have been given
Speaker 1: me a little preview of my so called wishes and
Speaker 1: saying you might not know everything. Well, it's good, It's
Speaker 1: it's great to have you back. Mark. It wasn't the
Speaker 1: same without you last week and being at full strength
Speaker 1: and uh, here in Culver City for a Sunday of
Speaker 1: NFL action. This is what we do best, and what
Speaker 1: do we do you know what we do, Greg, everybody
Speaker 1: knows what we do. Sundays we talk about fifteen games,
Speaker 1: talk about fifteen football games in a row, straight through,
Speaker 1: with a little bit of help from our friend downstairs,
Speaker 1: Nick Shook, who will be here in a little bit,
Speaker 1: and we're going to go through the entire schedule of
Speaker 1: games and close it out with a Sunday night affair
Speaker 1: between the Detroit Lions and the Millingham Patriots. Uh, anything
Speaker 1: else we have to get off the books before we
Speaker 1: get into, uh, the flagship program. I was just gonna say,
Speaker 1: as it turns out, agonizing pain is not a good
Speaker 1: way to replace football. No, it is not. But I
Speaker 1: will say, what look at this cardigan? Is this a
Speaker 1: cardigan that West is wearing? They call it a cow
Speaker 1: next sweater? It is some high There's just certain things
Speaker 1: that's not wearing before he met his current fiance that
Speaker 1: just have crept into wardrobe and some of them have
Speaker 1: kind of that preppy look to it. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: an interesting narrative, and it's surprised though it's not a
Speaker 1: narrative because we we were given and we'll get into it.
Speaker 1: One of a future sponsor offered us a chance to
Speaker 1: purchase some clothing online. And I just went in and
Speaker 1: ordered a hoodie and an incredible pair of mail underwear.
Speaker 1: And what did West do? West said, I needed to
Speaker 1: confer with the paramore before I make my purchase, Like
Speaker 1: I don't, I just go by this funny West Bristles
Speaker 1: had a lot of narratives, but this is the one
Speaker 1: that I'm most surprised that really gets under his skin.
Speaker 1: That somehow it doesn't really get under my skin. It's
Speaker 1: just that it's only half true. Like a lot of
Speaker 1: the clothing that I've bought, she's getting credit for. But
Speaker 1: I will concede that my fashion um appears to have
Speaker 1: increased for the better. It's evolving, Bristle, your narrative. That's
Speaker 1: a common refrain from West East days. That was a
Speaker 1: non apology apology. Why am I apologizing? All right, So
Speaker 1: we're gonna go through all the game for the Bills game.
Speaker 1: Why don't you? Why don't we start We'll get to
Speaker 1: the Bills game shortly, but why don't we start with
Speaker 1: a great shootout of Week three? Line and Camara behind Breeze.
Speaker 1: Breeze gonna try and dive over and he does, and
Speaker 1: that's the ball game. That's it a decisive end the
Speaker 1: call from w z g C West Durham put that
Speaker 1: in the list for I mean, the shortlist for a
Speaker 1: potential call of the year. It would be hard to
Speaker 1: top it, I know, because Alvin Kamarath they thought he's scored,
Speaker 1: so it was almost a matter of fact situation. But
Speaker 1: economy of words, all right, guys, Drew Brees is one
Speaker 1: yard run captain eighty r touchdown drive to open overtime,
Speaker 1: lifting the New Orleans Saints to at seven win over
Speaker 1: the Falcons greg This was a classic shootout between two
Speaker 1: great talents at quarterback, potentially two Hall of famers at
Speaker 1: least one. Matt Ryan threw five touchdown but the Saints
Speaker 1: are the team that won that overtime coin toss and
Speaker 1: they didn't look back. It is remarkable to see one
Speaker 1: of the top quarterbacks in the league and Drew Brees
Speaker 1: be paired with a top three running back, a top
Speaker 1: three receiver and just see those three guys dominate together.
Speaker 1: Breeze is so sharp in this game, and sometimes it
Speaker 1: just comes up down to situations, and the Saints handled
Speaker 1: uh the situation at the end of the first half
Speaker 1: where they got three points and then at the end
Speaker 1: of the game where they ended up getting one stop
Speaker 1: on the Falcons better than Atlanta. Otherwise you couldn't find
Speaker 1: a stop in this game. But there was a third
Speaker 1: down when Atlanta got the ball back with the game
Speaker 1: tied latent regulation, and I think everyone watching the game
Speaker 1: just figured Atlanta's gonna go down and kick the game
Speaker 1: winning field goal. Tevin Coleman does not pick up the
Speaker 1: blitz well, Matt Ryan gets furious at him. He had
Speaker 1: an open receiver over the middle. And then the Saints
Speaker 1: win the coin toss, and once they won the coin toss,
Speaker 1: it felt like Super Bowl fifty one again, that's the
Speaker 1: right number, right, and where I just was like, there's
Speaker 1: no way the Falcons are getting to stop because the
Speaker 1: Falcons defense is a mess without Kean Uneo, without Dion Jones.
Speaker 1: For this game, they were without Tach McKinley, and then
Speaker 1: Ricardo Allen also suffered a serious injury. There was just
Speaker 1: no way they were going to stop the Saints. I
Speaker 1: actually felt that they were a little lucky even to
Speaker 1: be in this game. This happens like somebody I bet
Speaker 1: against the Saints, you bet they don't do that. Well, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and let's not lock it up. Did not lock it up. Um,
Speaker 1: this happens at least once a year where I feel
Speaker 1: like it's time for everybody to understand how great Drew
Speaker 1: Brees is. And he did set an NFL record today
Speaker 1: He now has more completions than anyone and that's a
Speaker 1: kind of accounting stat, but it's a remarkable stat. And
Speaker 1: then setting up this game and did a little research,
Speaker 1: Drew Brees has never won an m v P. He
Speaker 1: might retire with every record in the book. This is
Speaker 1: a forty year old quarterback that went toe to toe
Speaker 1: again with Matt Ryan, who won the MVP a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago. And one I just want to point
Speaker 1: out one specific play. So he went over the top
Speaker 1: to win the game. Didn't impress the Saint Saints radio network,
Speaker 1: but I was impressed by that old man jumping over
Speaker 1: the line like that. But it was the play that
Speaker 1: tied the game. Uh thirty seven thirty Saints are down
Speaker 1: about five and a half minutes to go and Drew
Speaker 1: Brees is in the open field with two Falcons defenders converging,
Speaker 1: does a spin move and gets in the end zone.
Speaker 1: Here's what he had to say about it. After the game.
Speaker 1: At some point I felt like they were coming to
Speaker 1: try to take my head off and I could probably
Speaker 1: spin out of this. And that was just a reaction. Um.
Speaker 1: But I keep telling my flag football team that like,
Speaker 1: spin moves are good, and they and then they're not
Speaker 1: getting it. They're not believing me. So I'm glad that
Speaker 1: happened because now I have video evidence to show them that, hey,
Speaker 1: spin moves work. Spin moves are good. Drew Brees is
Speaker 1: an obvious first ballot Hall of Famer, um, but this
Speaker 1: isn't baseball. Nobody pays attention to counting stats and football
Speaker 1: for a reason. You can't compare across eras he can't
Speaker 1: compare with the Dome because it's like playing in Coors
Speaker 1: Field as a base ball player, it's such a big
Speaker 1: advantage for offensive stats. So Drew Brees doesn't need anyone
Speaker 1: to say he's got these stats. He blongs in the hole.
Speaker 1: He's going to the Hall of Fame regardless, right. He
Speaker 1: and he's always been, unfortunately for him, the kind of
Speaker 1: the third guy. He was the third behind Brady and Manning.
Speaker 1: Now he's kind of been the third behind Brady and Rodgers.
Speaker 1: When people think of the two, but he has been
Speaker 1: so sharp. I really watching this game, even though Matt
Speaker 1: Ryan's numbers are insane and he played well. He had
Speaker 1: three seventy four yards and five touches. I just watched
Speaker 1: it thinking like, Breeze is so much sharper, He's the
Speaker 1: guy that you want. And then you look at some
Speaker 1: of the stats for Thomas. Michael Thomas has thirty eight
Speaker 1: catches on forty targets this year. Wow, I feel like
Speaker 1: we're not talking to mouth about him, even though it's
Speaker 1: he constantly gets highlighted in the statistical packages and stuff.
Speaker 1: You called him a top three receiver. It felt like
Speaker 1: it felt like a miracle. Any time that the Falcons
Speaker 1: defense got the Saints the third down. It was one
Speaker 1: of those games where like if it was an eight
Speaker 1: yard game, that felt like a win for the Falcons defense.
Speaker 1: And then Alvin Kamara, who we take for granted a
Speaker 1: little bit now too, just because he's been around thirty
Speaker 1: one touches in this game, a hundred and ninety five
Speaker 1: yards from scrimmage, I was thinking, they need a little
Speaker 1: more depth, but maybe you don't need that much more.
Speaker 1: Ben Watson did step up for them today and that
Speaker 1: made it that one quick thing. Seven touchdowns scored in
Speaker 1: the second half and overtime. I come away concerned with
Speaker 1: both defenses still. I mean especially Atlanta, who's been really,
Speaker 1: you know, absolutely ravaged right up the middle of their defense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley was awesome for them, but I think the Falcons,
Speaker 1: now with two losses to big NFC teams, have to
Speaker 1: be a little worried because some of these guys aren't
Speaker 1: coming back. Hopefully the Ricardo Allen injury isn't too serious.
Speaker 1: Let us move up seven. Mahomes in the pocket, peeling
Speaker 1: away being rushed. Now peels back to his right, trying
Speaker 1: to keep the play a lot pump baking fires late,
Speaker 1: It's caught in the back of the end zone. Touchdown,
Speaker 1: Cansas City. Chris Connolly with the catch, but Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: with mahomes magic. There you go, Holidays count on him.
Speaker 1: One who on the box and the Chief's radio network superman.
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes finished with three hundred and fourteen yards and
Speaker 1: three touchdowns, including that brilliant scramble in connection with Chris Conley. Uh.
Speaker 1: In the end, it was another big win for the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Final score thirty eight seven. That's as an NFL record,
Speaker 1: by the way from Mahomes was thirteen touchdowns this season
Speaker 1: in three games, no interceptions. Uh not all the quarterback
Speaker 1: news was a good one, though Jimmy Garoppolo suffered the
Speaker 1: left knee injury that the team fears as a toorn
Speaker 1: a c l crushing Uh. Tough setback for the Niners
Speaker 1: and another eye opening performance for the West for the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: West sort of reminds me of the two South two
Speaker 1: thousand seven Patriots in this way, as far as the
Speaker 1: credit being so widely placed, you would hear you would
Speaker 1: watched the two thousand seven Patriots, and some former lineman
Speaker 1: would point out, this doesn't happen unless Brady's got all
Speaker 1: day to throw. And then some would point out West
Speaker 1: Welkers redefining this lot position. Someone would say, Josh McDaniels
Speaker 1: is awesome as a play caller with the Chiefs. You
Speaker 1: have all of these things. Tyreek Hill is in the
Speaker 1: Randy Moss role. Mahomes is in the Rady roll, Andy
Speaker 1: Reid's execution. There's so the Chiefs are facing busted coverage
Speaker 1: on more plays than any team in the league. There
Speaker 1: are running there are receivers running wide open throughout every
Speaker 1: level of this defense. They haven't even had to establish
Speaker 1: a ground attack in any game this year. He's throwing
Speaker 1: a touchdown to nine different receivers, which is a veteran
Speaker 1: quarterback type of rapport with your targets. Three three weeks
Speaker 1: and the record is it's incredible. And they just have
Speaker 1: the vibe because the Chiefs are a team that you
Speaker 1: do expect, through the Andy Reid era, to open strong
Speaker 1: a lot of times and then they're gonna give you
Speaker 1: what they give you on the second half of the season,
Speaker 1: but that was with a different quarterback and a lot
Speaker 1: of times with different weapons. This has the vibe of
Speaker 1: a fifteen and one team that, well, well, you're you're challenging.
Speaker 1: Their defense might be terrible, but you've got a challenge.
Speaker 1: Teams who got to figure out a way to to
Speaker 1: stop this and last one guy or three other guys.
Speaker 1: And last year they did find a way for a
Speaker 1: while different quarterback. Right now, it feels like the Chiefs
Speaker 1: are lining up with third team players versus you're eleven.
Speaker 1: Right the play where Mahomes doubled back a few times
Speaker 1: and then scrambled and kind of three quarter armed through
Speaker 1: the touchdown early in the game. It's like, I don't
Speaker 1: know if any other quarterback in the league and make
Speaker 1: that play. Make certainly make that throw. Maybe Aaron Riders
Speaker 1: can make the throw, but I don't know if he
Speaker 1: even is nimble enough to get to that point. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's just amazing to watch him. I want to point
Speaker 1: out that he underthrew Tyreek Hill on what could have
Speaker 1: been a long touchdown and overthrew DeMarcus Robinson on what
Speaker 1: could have been a long touchdown. But then they scored
Speaker 1: touchdowns anyway. They scored off on all five of the
Speaker 1: first hand positions for the first time in franchise history,
Speaker 1: they scored touchdown and and through the first two weeks
Speaker 1: he had touchdowns that were unscored based on drops and
Speaker 1: stuff too. It's like, honestly, he could have his numbers
Speaker 1: could be even higher. I mean, and then you flip
Speaker 1: side it and the night it's two offseason narratives. One
Speaker 1: where the Chiefs came in off all offseason you thought
Speaker 1: it might be a little bit hot air, even though
Speaker 1: you liked the idea of Patrick Mahomes, how much they
Speaker 1: believed in him. And then it's paying Out and then
Speaker 1: the Niners off season, which was a hype train flying
Speaker 1: out of control, and now you've lost your quarterback, and
Speaker 1: the really teams that can complain or the teams that
Speaker 1: lose their starting quarterback because injuries happened everyone and now
Speaker 1: your season is effectively over. The most frustrating thing about
Speaker 1: it too, man and a torn a c l early
Speaker 1: in the season. It's just terrible and you feel for Garoppolo.
Speaker 1: James Palmer actually had video in the in the Tunnel
Speaker 1: of Garoppolo being taken in the cart and meeting with
Speaker 1: his family, and you just imagine how how crushing that
Speaker 1: must have been. But it also happened on such an
Speaker 1: unnecessary play where he's scrambling, gets out of the pocket,
Speaker 1: picks up yardage. He could have stepped out, but instead,
Speaker 1: almost inexplicably, he plants his left leg and tries to
Speaker 1: cut up field to collide with the defender. Wasn't the
Speaker 1: first time in the game he did, then it's one
Speaker 1: he planted that leg that it went and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: it's all part of the learning curve of a quarterback
Speaker 1: and unfortunately for Jermy Garoppolo it's probably gonna cost him
Speaker 1: the season. We don't know for sure, but Kyle Shanahan said,
Speaker 1: the team fears it, uh and usually you could bummer
Speaker 1: because kind of takes the forty nine ers out of
Speaker 1: the teams that you want to watch each week. They're
Speaker 1: gonna be in some primetime games. I was curious to
Speaker 1: see how this was gonna go, because I think he struggled.
Speaker 1: We talked about that the first couple of weeks. I
Speaker 1: don't know how he looked, you know today, West or
Speaker 1: what your takeaways where, but just to to lose him
Speaker 1: at all, it's like they have no chance without him.
Speaker 1: He didn't play as well as his numbers. He's still
Speaker 1: holding the ball. He was still holding the ball too
Speaker 1: long and doesn't didn't feel like he was trusting what
Speaker 1: he was seeing. But after the Chiefs jumped out to
Speaker 1: a big lead, he's he started to move the offense more. Um,
Speaker 1: But you're right, he it's a small sample size thing,
Speaker 1: and I think he's probably gonna be saved by the
Speaker 1: numbers because after three games he's gonna have a ninety
Speaker 1: pass iernian eight eight yards per attempt. The film doesn't
Speaker 1: look quite that good, but I don't think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a narrative that he was terrible this year. How
Speaker 1: many C C J. Bethord games are we gonna end
Speaker 1: up watching? Who's their third string quarterback? I should know
Speaker 1: this up top of my head, but this the answer
Speaker 1: would be thirteen. You know, if he stays healthy. His
Speaker 1: name is Nick Mullins. I mean no, but I mean,
Speaker 1: is there a prime time how many howny times you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to watch this? By the way, there is
Speaker 1: I did what immediately did flash in my mind as
Speaker 1: a Jets fan. This was the case of not trading
Speaker 1: teddy Bridge. I was gonna ask you that what would
Speaker 1: have happened then? Could you have gotten He's not a
Speaker 1: one year deal. It's not like you have to suddenly
Speaker 1: have a butting heads at quarterback. It would have He
Speaker 1: could have slid in right perfectly for the Niners. He's
Speaker 1: on Monday Night football two times. They could flex him
Speaker 1: out of his Sunday Night Football. He's on Thursday night
Speaker 1: as well, so that's at least three. But you do have,
Speaker 1: you know, that membership down in the lab, and to
Speaker 1: do that, you're gonna have to watch some Bethard next game.
Speaker 1: There was a benefit for me here. They pictured al
Speaker 1: Albert will sit down, He's gonna call the distance, Albert
Speaker 1: Wilson high five on a play call again a gay
Speaker 1: old time. The w q A M Dobbins Radio network
Speaker 1: get nervous, Mercury Morris, the Miami Dobbins cannot stop winning.
Speaker 1: Albert Wilson through a fifty two yard touchdown pass on
Speaker 1: a trick play and scored on a an even longer
Speaker 1: touchdown on a catch and run, lifting the Dolphins over
Speaker 1: the windless Nick Shuck is here. He's back, he's jacked,
Speaker 1: he's happy about his Browns. There we go. Shook the
Speaker 1: Dolphins three and oh for just the third time in
Speaker 1: the last twenty years. And the Pats are on deck.
Speaker 1: You buying in not yet uh one of the weirder
Speaker 1: three and oh starts you. You have to wonder if
Speaker 1: they'd be three and oh if they hadn't faced a
Speaker 1: Jets team with Sam Donald, you know, making rookie mistakes
Speaker 1: um here and there, and a Raiders team that cannot
Speaker 1: finish a game. Three weeks now, they well, the Rams
Speaker 1: game they got blown out in the fourth quarter. For
Speaker 1: the last two weeks they have not been able to
Speaker 1: hold onto the leads and finished games on the road.
Speaker 1: And and it's starting to become a point of frustration
Speaker 1: if you're Raiders fan, and and especially in this jet
Speaker 1: comes on the same day they've blown a second half
Speaker 1: lete and all three losses. And in the news this
Speaker 1: morning was that there's some friction and inside the building
Speaker 1: about gruden skuys versus maybe Reggie's guys. I feel like
Speaker 1: we had that news story four or five months ago.
Speaker 1: But that's right, none of this is surprising. But yeah,
Speaker 1: this is oh and three. It's the worst case scenario, choke. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know, there's a lot of season left. I
Speaker 1: guess next week could get the Browns, so hey, maybe
Speaker 1: the Readers get their first win or maybe not. I
Speaker 1: mean on the Dolphins side though, uh, more of the
Speaker 1: same when they got things going in the second half.
Speaker 1: You know, they hit some struggles early, defensively letting Jordy
Speaker 1: Nelson run wild, which I felt like we were in
Speaker 1: a throwback about four or five years ago. And uh,
Speaker 1: but offensively, you know, Tannehill two stills is still a thing. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, three connections today for sixty one yards, including
Speaker 1: a thirty four yard touchdown pass, and the real hero
Speaker 1: of the day was Juchem Grant had a couple of
Speaker 1: touchdown receptions, including a touchdown pass from wide receiver Albert Wilson. Actually,
Speaker 1: they could kind of compete for it because Bert had
Speaker 1: his own touchdown reception later in the game to ice
Speaker 1: it as well. That was the play that the announcers
Speaker 1: are reacting to as if it was like Eddie Murphy
Speaker 1: raw in they were all wearing red leather jumps. Biggest comedies.
Speaker 1: Dolphins are such a weird three and no team they
Speaker 1: deserve credit. Tannehill has avoided mistakes. He's mostly made smart decisions.
Speaker 1: He's had some key runs over the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: But this is another game, kind of like the seven
Speaker 1: hour game. That's just it was. It's odd to run
Speaker 1: thirty nine plays compared to seventy four for the Raiders
Speaker 1: and have half as many first downs. But but they
Speaker 1: find a way to win. And Adam Gaze has something
Speaker 1: going on in one score games. He's sixteen and five
Speaker 1: and one score games in his time in Miami. So
Speaker 1: they find a way to win these close ones. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, I thought the Raiders are one of
Speaker 1: the weirdest teams in memory, because all offseason you hear
Speaker 1: Jon Gruden telling you this offense will run through Amari Cooper.
Speaker 1: I will turn Amari Cooper into what everyone believes he
Speaker 1: should be. And he's completely shut down by Kaavian Howard today.
Speaker 1: One of the reasons you get Jordy Nelson from half
Speaker 1: a decade ago suddenly making all the plays for a
Speaker 1: team that feels like a shotgun from a cannon from
Speaker 1: two thousand and six. I don't know what to say
Speaker 1: about this Raiders teams. The thing about I just did.
Speaker 1: The thing about that though, is that went away after
Speaker 1: the early parts. I mean they adjusted and and and
Speaker 1: you know we're able to stop that. But it's a
Speaker 1: clash of the weird because you have the weird raid
Speaker 1: your team, and then you have the Dolphins. You have
Speaker 1: won three weird games in a row. Xavian Howard is
Speaker 1: really good. They have a lot The Dolphins defense has
Speaker 1: a chance to be really good. Robert Quinn looks like
Speaker 1: a totally different player making Fitzpatrick is is good. Kiko
Speaker 1: Alonso seems to turn it on every three years or so,
Speaker 1: and he started this year like on fire. They can
Speaker 1: be their defense. Uh. And the cynic in me and
Speaker 1: maybe it's just the Jets fan and I don't like
Speaker 1: to say nice things about the Dolphins is they seem
Speaker 1: to be exhibiting all the signs of the team that
Speaker 1: gets out of the gate fast and then fades. But
Speaker 1: I can't can't get to you can't be hard on
Speaker 1: the team. That's three and o. They took care of
Speaker 1: their business and that's it. I think that Dolphins fans
Speaker 1: should note that at least half of the studio is
Speaker 1: bashing them and not believing in them and saying they
Speaker 1: might be frauds. Well, I mean, it's it's it's it's
Speaker 1: a defensive team. That's the way defensive teams usually are.
Speaker 1: They're kind of weird West, what's going on. I don't
Speaker 1: the whole thing with Dolphins fans don't buy them for
Speaker 1: a minute, But I mean, what why kill a team
Speaker 1: that's knocking off bad teams? At least they did their job. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're three, you know they're they're sitting pretty. Let's move up.
Speaker 1: Mariota takes the snap, running himself. He's got the first down,
Speaker 1: the thirty five to the forty to forty five, and
Speaker 1: he's taken down at that is the mice stro Marcus Mariota. Okay,
Speaker 1: the maceetro Marcus Mariota uh Titans radio with the call
Speaker 1: They're Marcus Mariota replaced. They could cussed. Blaine Gabbard led
Speaker 1: three field goal drives enough for the Titans to knock
Speaker 1: off the host Jaguars nine six on Sunday. The Titoons
Speaker 1: have beatning the Jack's three straight times in Mariota. That
Speaker 1: was five wins and seven tries against the defending South champs.
Speaker 1: Nick Shook explained the Jaguars to me last week they
Speaker 1: looked super Bowl ready against the Patriots. Today the toilet Bowl.
Speaker 1: The first thing I've written top of my notes in
Speaker 1: all caps, a whole lot of nothing. That's where this
Speaker 1: entire game was offensively for the Jaguars. Blake Bortles would
Speaker 1: find a guy occasionally and he'd drop a pass, and
Speaker 1: then he'd have a guy open and he'd overthrow him.
Speaker 1: And it was just a whole lot of people not
Speaker 1: doing their jobs offensively. And I couldn't figure out throughout
Speaker 1: this game whether this was the Titans defense playing well
Speaker 1: or the Jaguars just not executing. And the only part
Speaker 1: they really executed in for most of the day was
Speaker 1: on the ground game with t J. Yeldon, who was
Speaker 1: fighting through an injury and had to come out for
Speaker 1: for you know, spaces and time in that game, so
Speaker 1: they couldn't establish anything and the result is six points.
Speaker 1: They tried to fake punt twice, it didn't work. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the kind of day it was. I feel like
Speaker 1: the football God say, if we're gonna give you Felcon Saints,
Speaker 1: we're also gonna give you Titans Jaguars. You can't have
Speaker 1: you can't have something less than this. You have to
Speaker 1: have a nice little six to three, six to nine
Speaker 1: type games. Saints outgained this game by a d r
Speaker 1: by themselves, by themselves. Yeah, just just them. Yeah, someone
Speaker 1: should point out the Titans owned the Jaguars. Yes, for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, they match up well with with a better team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but can we do that since there's a new coaching
Speaker 1: staff in Tennessee. Who expected Casey's just talking his back
Speaker 1: after every game, which he did after this one, and West,
Speaker 1: you know, was the guy who putting kind of the
Speaker 1: the governor onto the Blake Bortles hype throughout the week
Speaker 1: to saying like that is who Blake Bortles is is
Speaker 1: having one great week and then having the next week
Speaker 1: where I think he was I think he had sixty
Speaker 1: four yards at halftime on eighteen attempts. It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: because this game wasn't on national TV, so it won't
Speaker 1: ever be part of the conversation. I just just say
Speaker 1: this too about Marcus Mariota, like he is. He is
Speaker 1: the franchise still for the Titans right at this point. Yes,
Speaker 1: how is it then that he's not healthy enough to
Speaker 1: start the game but healthy enough to come in? Like,
Speaker 1: if he's ther franchise, he either can play or he can't.
Speaker 1: I would think that he should should not even be
Speaker 1: in this game if you can't grip a football. I
Speaker 1: think the backup plan came into order when Blake Gabbert
Speaker 1: got knocked out because then they still want to win
Speaker 1: the game, and they did end up winning the game,
Speaker 1: but their next best option. It's strange. They're they're saying
Speaker 1: that he can't make it any worse and that it
Speaker 1: hurts his accuracy and some of his you know, velocity,
Speaker 1: that he can't grip it. But it is. It is strange,
Speaker 1: and it's also strange like he's winning these games against
Speaker 1: the Jaguards often with his legs. He rushed for fifty
Speaker 1: one yards today and in a game where that's that
Speaker 1: was kind of the key on this three field goal drives.
Speaker 1: He does have something to these, yeah, But all I'd
Speaker 1: say is everyone listening to this show right now has
Speaker 1: had the moment where you've fallen asleep on your couch
Speaker 1: on your arm and you wake up and you can't
Speaker 1: even feel anything from the shoulder down, Like I don't.
Speaker 1: That's not who I want throwing the football for my team,
Speaker 1: just throwing out there. I feel recalled. This happened to
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer a few years ago where he had a
Speaker 1: nerve problem with the throwing arm and he had to
Speaker 1: sit out for a while. I think Mariota as a
Speaker 1: as their franchise quarterback is open and they have two
Speaker 1: years really to decide on his fifth year option. But
Speaker 1: I don't, you know, I think that's we'll see what's
Speaker 1: slowed onto my astro. That maestro is someone who's flamm
Speaker 1: points or maestro. They're eccentric, they're running the room. This
Speaker 1: guy is one of the more and he's hard working.
Speaker 1: I like him, but he's one of the more bland
Speaker 1: personas in all the league. Maestro is not the listen.
Speaker 1: You go on the road and you shut down the
Speaker 1: Jaguars and you get a win again. Same thing with
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. I give you credit, here's your lollipop, but
Speaker 1: don't tell me the Titans are exciting when this again,
Speaker 1: this type of football we've been seeing. Their defense is
Speaker 1: better than people thinking there's something too that the way
Speaker 1: that they've won those two games to put that in
Speaker 1: the bank. Kind of early in the scene, we're talking
Speaker 1: a little Patriots in these crazy in these crazy ways.
Speaker 1: I think that is it's a great foundation, a way
Speaker 1: to kind of start to say you just got to
Speaker 1: get better at you were comparing them to early Patriots.
Speaker 1: I was saying, Mike Rabel as a head coach is
Speaker 1: probably he would probably love to win a game no
Speaker 1: other way than the last two weeks. Shouldn't we be
Speaker 1: given this coaching staff to be going through so many
Speaker 1: tackle and quarterback issues and still winning games. Well, the
Speaker 1: last one didn't get it done. So yes, you guys
Speaker 1: aren't excited by a hunter yourards passing, Oh we are not, generally.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Nick, great to see you again. Thanks for
Speaker 1: having me. Congrats on your new dynasty in Cleveland. Flying high?
Speaker 1: Should Nick and I are holding hands for the sky?
Speaker 1: I do like Dan's role is the only American rooting
Speaker 1: against the Browns. Unbelievable the second half of that game. Sorry, Mark,
Speaker 1: but was the first time my heart truly rooted for
Speaker 1: the brown since I've known you. I don't take offense
Speaker 1: to that. I think you had no reason to previously.
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Speaker 1: into the end, don't touchdown it is Jason crewe Wine
Speaker 1: open touchdown Buffalo John Murphy w g R with the call.
Speaker 1: The Bills entered Week three as a seventeen and a
Speaker 1: half point underdog against the Vikings. The Desert Lies. Josh
Speaker 1: Allen played like a trusty veteran, accounting for three touchdowns
Speaker 1: in his first road start. The Bill shocked the Vikings
Speaker 1: se to six in Minneapolis. Mark Seler, what the listen,
Speaker 1: That's the perfect way to open this because the thing
Speaker 1: that concerns me the most for the Vikings, outside of
Speaker 1: the fact that you manage fourteen rushing yards and are
Speaker 1: dominated by the Bill's defense all day long, is that
Speaker 1: these games has happened where someone rolls in who shouldn't
Speaker 1: even be in this game, and they get a little
Speaker 1: seventeen and nothing lead like they did off of a
Speaker 1: very bad start for Kirk Cousins with a couple of
Speaker 1: strip sacks short fields for Buffalo, they managed seventeen points
Speaker 1: of it. You still had forty five minutes if you're
Speaker 1: the Vikings at home, to wind your way out of this,
Speaker 1: and you found no way to do it. This wasn't
Speaker 1: a fluke. This game on its own in the sense
Speaker 1: that Josh Allen finally played in a way that we
Speaker 1: hope he used his legs. He did not make killer mistakes.
Speaker 1: He did have an interception that was dropped, but then
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins in the second half turns around and throws
Speaker 1: a killer pick. They never found their way in this game,
Speaker 1: and now you have a short week. I don't know
Speaker 1: if they were looking past the Bills, because on Thursday
Speaker 1: night you have to deal with the juggernaut that is
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams. But if you did look past them,
Speaker 1: and there was a moment in this game where Mike
Speaker 1: Zimmer was caught by Tracy Wilson of CBS saying, oh
Speaker 1: my god, it's twenty seven to nothing. You were caught
Speaker 1: off guard in this game, and it is a hyper
Speaker 1: concerning footnote in week three. For this Vikings team to
Speaker 1: have this happen there, I think gets extremely troubling loss.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know I I said it even before
Speaker 1: the scene started, that the Vikings were on my radar
Speaker 1: a little bit as a team. Keep an eye on
Speaker 1: them because everyone had him penciled in to be a
Speaker 1: juggernaut again this year. And maybe they will. Maybe this
Speaker 1: is just a buff in the road. But also there's
Speaker 1: so much pressure on this team to build off last season,
Speaker 1: and to me, this is a loss. I kept on waiting.
Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to watch this yet, but
Speaker 1: I kept on waiting, and so tend nothing. Okay, blipping
Speaker 1: the radar. They'll get back in seventeen nothing, what twenty four? Nothing?
Speaker 1: And then I lose track of the game. We get
Speaker 1: back to its midway through the fourth quarter and they
Speaker 1: still don't have a point, and you just you're wondering,
Speaker 1: how the hell a team that has this much talent
Speaker 1: could be that badly outplayed against such a poor team
Speaker 1: missing with Shawn McCoy, I wish we still had the UM.
Speaker 1: I wish you weren't a liar drop. Because Mike Zimmer
Speaker 1: insisted after the game they did not overlook the bill,
Speaker 1: and I think that's exactly what happened here. But credit
Speaker 1: to the Bills. My apologies for treating them like a
Speaker 1: laughing stock. And Josh Allen I was I was so
Speaker 1: happy to see him play well because people have written
Speaker 1: him off and he is so talented, so my mind
Speaker 1: is open on him. I just didn't think they had
Speaker 1: enough surrounding town. But their defense must have been a
Speaker 1: buzz allt at it, and we've we've talked about it.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's that much of a difference on
Speaker 1: on one day between professional teams. That's why there hasn't
Speaker 1: been an upset this big according to Vegas and so long.
Speaker 1: It's because there aren't lines that big. Because Jerry Hughes
Speaker 1: is collecting a ten million dollar paycheck and he's a
Speaker 1: professional whichever team he's on, and he happened to have
Speaker 1: one of the most insane days you know, according to
Speaker 1: ESPN stat that anyone's ever had. He had fifteen pressures
Speaker 1: the most, is the most since next Gen Stats has
Speaker 1: been keeping that as an official stat right, so he
Speaker 1: goes crazy. Lorenzo Alexander has a monster day. Tremaine Edmonds,
Speaker 1: who has been kind of a had a tough start
Speaker 1: to his career. The first couple of games plays well,
Speaker 1: and we remember that, hey, this Bill's defensive staff did
Speaker 1: pretty well, and that that, to me is almost the
Speaker 1: more surprising part of this equation is that their defense,
Speaker 1: the Bills, that is, who had really he struggled, played
Speaker 1: this well for four Well. I wasn't here last week,
Speaker 1: but it was two weeks ago that you mentioned that
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott is a guy that does find a way
Speaker 1: to dig out of holes, and he's done it before.
Speaker 1: And what a scenery altering win, because this fell like
Speaker 1: a guy who could have been out of the league.
Speaker 1: And eight weeks if things kept on the way they were,
Speaker 1: they looked at the worst team that we've seen in
Speaker 1: many years, and suddenly this happens. It's a completely unpredictable league.
Speaker 1: Just crazy. That's one of the bigger upsets you'll see
Speaker 1: this season, if not the biggest. Unless the Vikings are
Speaker 1: as good as we thought, we shall find out or
Speaker 1: it's or it's just one week. Let's find out. Blacko
Speaker 1: play action, rolls to the right, being chased, he talks,
Speaker 1: he wants to run. Flacko turns a corner. He he's
Speaker 1: got the first down to the twenty five yard line
Speaker 1: and with two thirty six left, he'll play the Hayes
Speaker 1: in the barn. The hey indeed is in the barn.
Speaker 1: Of course, that is Jerry Sanduski of w B A
Speaker 1: l uh Lamar who Joe Flacco scrambled to his right
Speaker 1: got where he needed to go first down, locked up
Speaker 1: the Ravens four win over the Broncos in Baltimore. Flacco
Speaker 1: was efficient, not flashy, and the Ravens defense help case
Speaker 1: Keenum and the Broncos under three yards of total offense. UM.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that this was the most memorable game.
Speaker 1: It's not a game that when you gentlemen, fire up
Speaker 1: your game pass accounts are going to it's gonna blow
Speaker 1: your minds. But this is a Ravens win. This is
Speaker 1: what the Ravens do. When the Ravens are right, Uh,
Speaker 1: they get enough from their offense and their defense does
Speaker 1: the job. And that's exactly what happened here. Denver, after
Speaker 1: a pretty good start, just could not get anything going.
Speaker 1: I mean they I think they were up fourteen nothing
Speaker 1: in this game and then had punt after punt after
Speaker 1: punt after punch or they put up fourteen points. Wasn't
Speaker 1: there a punch mixed mixed in there with the punts? Yes,
Speaker 1: there was a punch by super rookie. Uh, Philip Lindsay
Speaker 1: after a case Keenum was stripped by Sorell Suggs, who's
Speaker 1: still making plays at age thirty five. Uh, and there
Speaker 1: was a scramble for four years. I would agree with that.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's thirty six. That could be wrong, but Philip
Speaker 1: Lindsay was in the mid Philip Lindsay in the mix.
Speaker 1: He kind of had a couple of rabbit punches and
Speaker 1: and unfortunately for Mr Lindsay was right in front of
Speaker 1: an official, so he gets disqualified from the game. I
Speaker 1: I know Lindsay has played really well in the first
Speaker 1: two weeks, but I'm not ready to say that was
Speaker 1: going to be the difference in this game. I think
Speaker 1: uh Denver just did not have anything after those initial
Speaker 1: drives and Uh Denver. It should also be noted, uh,
Speaker 1: they're banged up in their secondary Adam Jones suffered a
Speaker 1: thigh injury he left the game. Cornerback Germaine Brock also
Speaker 1: got hurt in this game, injured his groin, So the
Speaker 1: broncos Um come down to earth a little bit, and
Speaker 1: the Ravens again, they just look I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: be in the mix this year. I think this is
Speaker 1: this to me, looks like a good team. Let me
Speaker 1: ask you one question, because I saw that at the
Speaker 1: end of the third quarter, Denver had more penalty yards
Speaker 1: than passing yards. That keen Um at one point had
Speaker 1: fifty six yards, two passes knocked down, three sacks and
Speaker 1: a fumble before throwing a pick. The one thing about
Speaker 1: case Keenum in week one, in two weeks one and
Speaker 1: two is that he's he's had these turnovers, but he's
Speaker 1: battled back and he's shown no fear of still making
Speaker 1: tight window passes and some of them have worked out.
Speaker 1: What happened today was it more Baltimore's defense because the
Speaker 1: turnaround never happened for him. I think it is what
Speaker 1: it is like like. I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: thought this that Keenum, in a perfect situation last year
Speaker 1: played the best football of his life. But this is
Speaker 1: kind of who case Keenum is. If you lower the
Speaker 1: talent level around him, if you if you ramp up
Speaker 1: the defense as you put him on the road, that
Speaker 1: you're gonna get kind of a hot and cold performance,
Speaker 1: and that's what you got from Keenum on Sunday. I
Speaker 1: don't I think that's fair. You're not saying he's going
Speaker 1: to be a disaster in an awful signing, just that
Speaker 1: he's not going to carry an offense there and he's
Speaker 1: gonna make some mistakes they've had. They used to have
Speaker 1: a difference making defense, obviously, and every year it gets
Speaker 1: slightly worse. And now they're at the point where I
Speaker 1: think you have to wonder is the defense and asset
Speaker 1: or a liability? Are they Are they an average defense?
Speaker 1: And I don't see the the equation for the Broncos
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs or be good if they're average
Speaker 1: or below average, even they need the defense to be better.
Speaker 1: And there was a lot of it up West Is
Speaker 1: on Fire early on. I liked your move here too,
Speaker 1: because you took the Broncos the first two weeks of
Speaker 1: the season. Right. Yeah, I'm having like a Miami Dolphins
Speaker 1: level September here. You got a little Mercury remorse thing
Speaker 1: going on right now. You're one, Oh, okays the records
Speaker 1: the record, So you didn't mean seventeen and three and three,
Speaker 1: that's gonna turn into like a seven hour game in
Speaker 1: the hottest game against the Titans in history, and then
Speaker 1: squeaked by the Jets, squeaked by the Raiders. We're all job,
Speaker 1: You're doing a nice job so far West you're three
Speaker 1: and oh in the locks which leads the way, and
Speaker 1: I believe a t N lock it up. The Twitter
Speaker 1: handle said you were the first member of our team
Speaker 1: to ever start to a season. So that's that's ominous.
Speaker 1: It usually does turn around in the in the like
Speaker 1: you know, vaunted three year history too. Year even did
Speaker 1: we start, do not diminish the contest year. It's the
Speaker 1: first time we did it from week one on though
Speaker 1: we're in at least the third year. The second I
Speaker 1: didn't win and you're not winning this year. I know
Speaker 1: Winter is coming was two years ago, right, but we
Speaker 1: didn't start the season. That trophy was handed out for
Speaker 1: the first time at Super Bowl and Erica tampose the
Speaker 1: loose cannon behind the glass. Hey guys, how are you good?
Speaker 1: How are you good? Remember we will need a trophy
Speaker 1: to be handled out after Super Bowl fifty three as well,
Speaker 1: of course, this time to one person, and I'm talking
Speaker 1: to you right now and I would say budget, I
Speaker 1: don't know a million dollars. Let's get Let's get the
Speaker 1: two eighty three diamonds Robert Kraft style on this sucker.
Speaker 1: Let's move on. The flip goes back left side called
Speaker 1: Anderson Wick blockers twenty to the timide alice court all
Speaker 1: the way down w C k Y, Dan Horde, Dave Lapham.
Speaker 1: How about that? There you go. Cam Newton through for
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, ran for two more. Christian McCaffrey racked up
Speaker 1: a career high a hundred and eighty four yards on
Speaker 1: the ground, and the Carolina Panthers took care of the Bengals,
Speaker 1: gave them their first loss of the season at thirty one.
Speaker 1: Victory for Carolina, Mark Sessler. Is it true? Is it
Speaker 1: really true? Inquiring minds want to know. Inquiring minds, I no, No.
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey run between the tackle. I I spotted that today.
Speaker 1: He did that effectively, And that trope, if that's a question,
Speaker 1: slash trope has been answered. He looked the part today. Finally, Well,
Speaker 1: the tackles never crossed a hundred yards on the ground
Speaker 1: my career. I just now looked at the box score
Speaker 1: and my eyes popped out of my head. I was
Speaker 1: not expecting to see a four for Christian McCay really
Speaker 1: wrote him he would hit. The offense went right through
Speaker 1: him today and this was a bit of a white
Speaker 1: knuckle affairs, one of those games where you're in the
Speaker 1: third quarter and when we're writing these things up, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I have no concept of what to write about in
Speaker 1: this game because it's sort of so blase. But then
Speaker 1: it took shape because what happened I thought was that
Speaker 1: the the Bengals, whose offense I still believe in, they
Speaker 1: were without Joe Mixon today and A. J. Green left
Speaker 1: with a groin injury in the early in the second half,
Speaker 1: and they really were limited at that point what they
Speaker 1: could do. And you look at Dalton, he had four
Speaker 1: picks and you can say utter disaster. Two of them
Speaker 1: were late game sort of heaves that we're not really
Speaker 1: part of what happened earlier on. He had some nice
Speaker 1: drives to but the problem with the Bengals is they
Speaker 1: were basically, I thought, overpowered down the stretch by a newcomer,
Speaker 1: two of them in Carolina f the Obata jerryan born
Speaker 1: London sourced Nigeria Nightmare two point I will tell you something.
Speaker 1: This guy was a house on fire. He generated a
Speaker 1: strip sack that went back into the Bengals possession after review,
Speaker 1: but then caught an interception that went through a pile
Speaker 1: of people, and then a late game sack that detonated
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton. Really put this game out of hand. And
Speaker 1: then you've got Dante Jackson, the rookie cornerback who has
Speaker 1: three picks in two of in two weeks, two of
Speaker 1: them coming today, and those turnovers ultimately undid the Bengals,
Speaker 1: who when you get Andy Dalton, he's going to turn
Speaker 1: the ball over four times when I'd say two of
Speaker 1: them were genuinely meaningful. That changed this game because the
Speaker 1: Panthers just had too much going on with Kat McCafferty.
Speaker 1: And then Cam Newton, who looks I think to me,
Speaker 1: slimmer and faster and more spry than he has in
Speaker 1: a while. Credit to Henry Hodgson, who was out there
Speaker 1: personally bird dogging, scouting f throughout his college career and
Speaker 1: through London. It's an amazing journey. If you don't know
Speaker 1: his backstory, it's for this Angeles and I think he's
Speaker 1: been you know, within the NFL since and this was
Speaker 1: his first game. It's called the Internet player pathway up
Speaker 1: the path that he took in bankrolls in himself, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a pretty incredible thing that this is
Speaker 1: his first snaps he ever got, just nineteen snaps in
Speaker 1: this game, and he ends up making that crazy of
Speaker 1: an impact. Maybe little game ball action. I'm saying he
Speaker 1: should have probably did get he earned it. He It
Speaker 1: was kind of incredible to watch him just make that
Speaker 1: he I think he even on the sideline. They should
Speaker 1: cut to him a couple of times. He was laughing wildly.
Speaker 1: I think he had. He was probably surprised by what
Speaker 1: was happening the Panthers and North Turner deserves some credit.
Speaker 1: I kind of mentioned that, let's get this running game
Speaker 1: going on the last show. They do lead the league
Speaker 1: in yards per carry before this game, and that's largely
Speaker 1: because of Cam Newton. But Cam Newton is a part
Speaker 1: of their running attack, and so they are kind of
Speaker 1: getting back to the what Ron Rivera wants. Especially with this.
Speaker 1: It also left me a little concerned about Cincinnati's front seven,
Speaker 1: which I think is a good front seven, but then
Speaker 1: they got slashed the way they did today. It was
Speaker 1: not what you want out of out of that defense. Well,
Speaker 1: you mentioned the NFL Pathway program. Is it time to
Speaker 1: check in? And now another edition keeping up anybody have it?
Speaker 1: I don't have a lot on that player that we're
Speaker 1: all right, we don't we actually don't have we got nothing.
Speaker 1: And that was keeping up with boring. That was another
Speaker 1: additional keeping up with anything else from this game. You
Speaker 1: were like a one man good bad cup. It was
Speaker 1: like literally after maybe the nicest moment in the NFL
Speaker 1: international player history, and then you just had to take
Speaker 1: it down. I got one now and you you've paid
Speaker 1: it like that. There were at least like four or
Speaker 1: five weeks per season where I think Ron Rivera is
Speaker 1: one of the most underrated coaches in the league. Give
Speaker 1: him some boat. He's been there for a long time
Speaker 1: and they're usually in the playoffs. By the way, Obada
Speaker 1: did get the game ball and his uh, his teammates
Speaker 1: seemed to be loving it just as much. Look at
Speaker 1: that indicated and you just fought. Let's move on, calls
Speaker 1: out the signals, takes the snap box to throw steps
Speaker 1: off fire. So the NZO touchdown Giants Starling Shepherd, Bompa,
Speaker 1: Papa Papa w F a n with the call. Eli
Speaker 1: mannic through two seven yards and two touchdowns, and se
Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley added a touchdown of his own as the
Speaker 1: Stream got their first win of the season, conquest over
Speaker 1: the windless Houston Texans. Greg Rose with all the Giants
Speaker 1: were in naptown offense in the first two weeks. What
Speaker 1: changed here? They had a great game plan Eli man
Speaker 1: and got the ball up quickly, especially to Odell Beckham
Speaker 1: and Sterling Shepherd. Not a lot deep down the field,
Speaker 1: but at least in stride gave them a place chance
Speaker 1: to make plays after the catch. But what really struck
Speaker 1: me was a third and one play late in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter where the Giants had gone about four or
Speaker 1: five street drives where they hadn't done anything. They looked
Speaker 1: like they did a week ago again, and you have
Speaker 1: se Kwan Barkley lined up as a wide receiver in
Speaker 1: an empty set on third and one. And that's the
Speaker 1: matchup that Eli Manning chooses to go to is sae
Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley on a linebacker way out wide. Barkley beats
Speaker 1: him easy, gets the first down. They wind up scoring
Speaker 1: the touchdown that puts the game away. And I just
Speaker 1: thought like last year's Giants aren't doing that. And for
Speaker 1: one week at least, Giants fans got to see a
Speaker 1: different vision of the Giants that would be a lot
Speaker 1: more fun to watch. And the afterglow of this event,
Speaker 1: are you finally ready to put Eli Manning where he
Speaker 1: belongs in Canton? Well, he has to wait five years
Speaker 1: after his career is over to do that. He did
Speaker 1: beat the two thousand eighteen Texans, right like, just like
Speaker 1: the type of Barkley took too much criticism last week.
Speaker 1: I thought he made the first guy miss almost every time,
Speaker 1: and he looks solid in this game. It was a
Speaker 1: lot more four or five yard runs, which I think
Speaker 1: the Giants will be really happy to see rather than
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of short ones in that big place.
Speaker 1: And just like we're saying I was saying with Eli
Speaker 1: last week, he played poorly the first two weeks, but
Speaker 1: that offensive line was so not even competitive. I thought
Speaker 1: for stretches of the first two games, Eric Flower has
Speaker 1: got himself benched in this game. It sounds I mean,
Speaker 1: didn't it sounds of it maybe well before the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: before the game he got bench for Chad Wheeler. I
Speaker 1: believe in JJ want to make that move when you can.
Speaker 1: J J. Watt came in and just destroyed wheels, used
Speaker 1: them throughout the game. Mary Flowers, maybe we'll be back
Speaker 1: in next week, which made made our our buddy Chris
Speaker 1: Westling looks smart who has been honking about J. J.
Speaker 1: Watts about to go on a sack street And all
Speaker 1: he did was get three sacks and tackle four tackles
Speaker 1: for loss. I think in this game of forced fumble
Speaker 1: he had a monster game, but it wasn't enough. Well,
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Speaker 1: Watt going nuts over the next month. But this is
Speaker 1: you know what we talked about all summer Texans were
Speaker 1: a boom or bus team and it is bust oh three,
Speaker 1: there's no coming back. History tells us from oh and
Speaker 1: three and then and and Deshaun Watson's a part of it.
Speaker 1: Uh Greg, I was seeing a lot of tweets out there.
Speaker 1: He was struggling again at least early on, early on especially,
Speaker 1: and this has been a pattern where he in Week
Speaker 1: one that this was the case, and then in this
Speaker 1: game as well, where the only plays they were making
Speaker 1: where if he was just back behind the offensive line
Speaker 1: for seven seconds kind of improvising. There was very little
Speaker 1: on schedule. He just wasn't very accurate, but the running
Speaker 1: game was really killed them. Lamar Miller at ten carries
Speaker 1: for ten yards. I feel like last year we knew
Speaker 1: that line was not good, but somehow Deshaun Watson spun
Speaker 1: magic and was able to get away from pressure and
Speaker 1: make these incredible plays against teams that had no tape
Speaker 1: on and perhaps but the line now, from what little
Speaker 1: I'm seeing of the Texans this week in the last
Speaker 1: two weeks, the line is going to doom them. It's
Speaker 1: hurt them. I don't know if that was it today,
Speaker 1: but to your point, they were running all sorts of creative,
Speaker 1: crazy stuff last year with Deshaun Watson. Everyone remembers that, right,
Speaker 1: and this year you kind of just look at them
Speaker 1: and they're running a regular NFL offense and it's not
Speaker 1: the same Bill O'Brien's but might be getting hot soon.
Speaker 1: Little warm There were expectations in that town and they
Speaker 1: are not just an extension. Yeah, he just he signed
Speaker 1: later than any coach in the NFL except for Grood,
Speaker 1: and he just made the power move where he got
Speaker 1: his own GM sign too. Is it You would think
Speaker 1: you would think you'd be okay, but you gotta win
Speaker 1: some games they've been That's what it's about, Mark, That's
Speaker 1: what it's about. That's that is the structure here. That's
Speaker 1: the old in the National Football League is do you
Speaker 1: win football game? You are what your record says you.
Speaker 1: Suddenly we're winning games in Central Queens. But that's uh,
Speaker 1: that's a separate issue, not about how many lollipops you
Speaker 1: can collect. Let's move on play action fate. He's got time.
Speaker 1: He's floating it down the middle looking for Richardson at
Speaker 1: the end, goes down at the end of the touchdown,
Speaker 1: water passing catcher and Richardson what thought at the one
Speaker 1: had rolled over over the end zone for the score.
Speaker 1: Larry Michael w t E M with the call. Adrian
Speaker 1: Peterson ran for a hundred and twenty yards and a
Speaker 1: pair of two yard touchdowns. Al Smith throw two touchdown passes,
Speaker 1: including that dime. He just heard to Paul Richardson and
Speaker 1: the Washington Redskins held on seventeen a victory over Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers and the Green Bay Packers and gentleman, this game, uh,
Speaker 1: featured a Packers team that I did not like watching
Speaker 1: very much. I did not like watching Aaron Rodgers on
Speaker 1: a bad knee that's not getting better and a bad
Speaker 1: hamstring out there looking like he's nineteen Jo Nameth. He
Speaker 1: just couldn't move, and I mean it was bad. And
Speaker 1: that's what's worth what's kind of sneaky great about Rogers
Speaker 1: and what's been what's makes him so special. It's not
Speaker 1: just his accuracy and his arm strength and the swagger,
Speaker 1: which is all, you know, top of the list, but
Speaker 1: also his maneuverability and how easily he moves in and
Speaker 1: out of traffic, and how he could pick up yardage
Speaker 1: with his legs and create time and that stuff. He's
Speaker 1: still able to do on some level, but it's becoming
Speaker 1: more and more compromised the more his body gets beat up. Uh.
Speaker 1: And are you saying they should see him? No, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't go that far. Although let's see how bad is
Speaker 1: his hamstring. He just wasn't moving well. I think he
Speaker 1: gives them a better chance to win even in this
Speaker 1: state than to Shaun Kaiser. So the answer would be no.
Speaker 1: But uh, the other problem is when Rogers is not
Speaker 1: you need the guys around him to step up. And
Speaker 1: this was a really poor performance by his skill position
Speaker 1: players around him. I'll single out um two guys. Tight
Speaker 1: End Lance Kendricks had a killer, terrible, pathetic drop on
Speaker 1: a beautiful dime pass uh from Rogers that he put
Speaker 1: right on the money. Would have been about a forty
Speaker 1: yard game. This is right when the Packers are trying
Speaker 1: to get some momentum going. They're playing from behind in
Speaker 1: this whole game, and Kendricks kind of looks it into
Speaker 1: his hands and never has a good grip on it
Speaker 1: and drops it. And then Randall Cobb, who used to
Speaker 1: be a rising star in this league, and you know
Speaker 1: he was out on the trade market reportedly over the
Speaker 1: summer again and was not helping the team in this game.
Speaker 1: He had a he had a drop, he had a fumble. Uh.
Speaker 1: Just not a guy that's making plays. Another relatively quiet
Speaker 1: game for Jimmy Graham. Davante Adams did some nice things.
Speaker 1: Geronimo Allison had a nice deep ball, uh touchdown. But
Speaker 1: other than that, this the skill players let Rogers down. Uh,
Speaker 1: so they're kind of in a weird spot right now.
Speaker 1: Cobb with four catches off eleven targets, I know there
Speaker 1: were drops in there, like you said, yeah, the Adrian
Speaker 1: Peterson highlights, and it looked like two thousand twelve Adrian Peterson.
Speaker 1: He looks awesome. There was one place jump cuts where
Speaker 1: really expected. There was one jump cut where it really
Speaker 1: did look like two thousand twelve Peterson where he did
Speaker 1: a jump cut, got to the outside of then what
Speaker 1: up the sideline for about thirty yards. He was at
Speaker 1: eighty five yards midway through the second quarter. He slowed
Speaker 1: down a little bit in the second half, but still
Speaker 1: went for one. Twenty One of the touchdowns should not
Speaker 1: have counted, but the referees got it wrong on the
Speaker 1: field and there was such a dog pile that you
Speaker 1: couldn't even overturn it. But West, you're right, just like
Speaker 1: you were right when you called it before the season started.
Speaker 1: Peterson as a major asset for this team and they're
Speaker 1: leaning hard on him. They leaned on him to close
Speaker 1: out the game, which he helped do. Uh, And this
Speaker 1: is just another Also good game for Alex Smith, who
Speaker 1: was just so splendidly consistent in his goodness. Never greatness,
Speaker 1: but just goodness. He moves the team, he gets he
Speaker 1: gets the ball in the right people's hands, so I
Speaker 1: only have to throw the ball twenty times, which is
Speaker 1: per if you're Ja grud and you're you're loving that,
Speaker 1: and the Redskins are reminded it's so early. All these
Speaker 1: teams are just forming and we're trying to figure out
Speaker 1: The Redskins basically had perfect week one Week three in
Speaker 1: a disastrous week too. Yeah. Week two is the week
Speaker 1: that I decided to lock up this team in the
Speaker 1: sandwich to awesome games on an utter dut against the
Speaker 1: You're looking for things that will last in Peterson. That's
Speaker 1: something they have to be really excited about. And then
Speaker 1: Jonathan Allen that kids a ball playerff. I mean, now,
Speaker 1: two more, two more sacks today and that's something, Okay,
Speaker 1: we got. We got a real difference maker in the
Speaker 1: middle of their line. And finally, almost impossibly, we're gonna
Speaker 1: have to talk about this again, Clay Matthews breaks through
Speaker 1: the line, uh makes a bee line for the quarterback,
Speaker 1: goes shoulder to the side hits him right center, square
Speaker 1: in the chest, kind of goes down hard because that's
Speaker 1: what happened. Happens when professional athletes collide at a high
Speaker 1: rate of speed and then raises his hands even as
Speaker 1: he's coming off. Alex Smith just ensure he doesn't get
Speaker 1: a flag, even exaggerates it. I did not try to
Speaker 1: Here comes the flag and again, and this is infuriating.
Speaker 1: The NFL makes the unusual step to reach out to
Speaker 1: the broadcast to immediately back the officials call, saying he
Speaker 1: put all or some of his body weight onto the quarterback.
Speaker 1: So that was a good call that we back, which
Speaker 1: is bologny. Bad job by the NFL, and look at
Speaker 1: uh the way to Twitter reacts and the bad vibes
Speaker 1: that that this is creating. Here's what Clay Matthews had
Speaker 1: to say after the latest issue unfortunately leads going in
Speaker 1: the direction I think a lot of people don't like um,
Speaker 1: you know, I think they're getting soft and you know,
Speaker 1: the only thing hard about this league or is a
Speaker 1: fine that they leave you down like me to play
Speaker 1: the game wargs. I have to give Clay Matthews credit.
Speaker 1: He actually restrained himself where I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people would go nuts in that situation. Mike McCarthy did
Speaker 1: almost get kicked out. I tweeted that I thought he
Speaker 1: was like a man trapped in a cop Ca novel
Speaker 1: at this point, because two weeks in a row in
Speaker 1: this in these questionable environment, this one today he even
Speaker 1: went up to Alex Smith and said, I'm sorry, what
Speaker 1: else could I have possibly done? There? The soft argument
Speaker 1: is going to go nowhere. And this is all corners
Speaker 1: of the country are criticized in the NFL for being soft,
Speaker 1: for trying to take hitting out of the game. Stop.
Speaker 1: It's never gonna go anywhere. They're trying to make the
Speaker 1: game as safe as possible. That that argument is going
Speaker 1: to be left behind. It's never gonna work. Take the
Speaker 1: argument that the role is confusing and it piss defensive
Speaker 1: players in a bad spot. You have to know what
Speaker 1: you're allowed to an impossible spot. Yeah, I think that's
Speaker 1: that's the problem. It's not the soft thing that that
Speaker 1: all the defenders wait on the quarterback rule. It's funny
Speaker 1: how that slips so much under the radar compared to
Speaker 1: the helmet rule in the pre season. That's the source
Speaker 1: of all of these problems. Really, the time where they're
Speaker 1: roughing the passer and they're hitting the helmet, and generally
Speaker 1: I agree with all of those calls. This seems like
Speaker 1: an impossible rule to do. It isn't if we're going
Speaker 1: for safety when they teach you how to tackle when
Speaker 1: you're young, like what this hit today on Alex Smith
Speaker 1: was not a dangerous hit? So what so something's lost here?
Speaker 1: In translations? Did they run pain, pick up Rodgers and
Speaker 1: body slam him in this game and not get a
Speaker 1: penalty called. That's the thing that happens a couple of times.
Speaker 1: You can pick out four or five times that happened
Speaker 1: throughout the week that doesn't get called in theay. Matthews
Speaker 1: actually sought out Alex Smith after the game and asked, Hey,
Speaker 1: did that seem bad to you? Because he's as lost
Speaker 1: as everyone else. Well, you're having quarterbacks now and it's
Speaker 1: happened last week or it's gonna happen again, coming out
Speaker 1: almost in defense of the players tackling them, saying we
Speaker 1: we agree with you, and I will say this just
Speaker 1: so everyone knows that that that in this case last week,
Speaker 1: the bad call against um claim Matthews cost the Packers
Speaker 1: to win. In this case, it didn't affect the outcome.
Speaker 1: It led to a punt anyway, but still terrible job.
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Speaker 1: This is gonna be the hail Mary play because they
Speaker 1: put in Jacobe Brosette, who has the big arms, were
Speaker 1: set deep drop looking scrambles, throws out to the right
Speaker 1: side looking still looking, sets up. He's it towards the
Speaker 1: end zone. Here's a hail Mary and and it is
Speaker 1: bout it down and incomplete. And that's the ball game.
Speaker 1: W I p Merrill Reese with the call. Carson wentz
Speaker 1: through a touchdown pass uh his first drive in nine months.
Speaker 1: Wendel Smallwood run in n a from the four yard
Speaker 1: line to put the Eagles ahead for good, and they
Speaker 1: won twenty to sixteen over the Colts. The Eagles needed
Speaker 1: to come from behind in this one, surviving a final
Speaker 1: hail Marry Attempa as you heard it, Jacobe Bissett. Uh.
Speaker 1: They moved to two and one on the season. West
Speaker 1: What was Wentz's rust level on this week? He came
Speaker 1: out and had an impressive first drive. UM, I think
Speaker 1: twelve plays about seventy five yards let him on a
Speaker 1: touchdown drive showed escapability. Um, you know how Carson wentzay
Speaker 1: is He's gonna run into some sacks because he keeps
Speaker 1: plays alive, and he's gonna get out of some sacks
Speaker 1: because he has that who DENI like escapability. He showed
Speaker 1: all that for the middle part of the game, second third,
Speaker 1: beginning of the fourth quarters to defense, the offense got
Speaker 1: shut down. Uh. He came through aided by some Colts penalties.
Speaker 1: One that was especially a head scratcher on jabal shirt
Speaker 1: cheered defensive holding at the line of scrimmage that helped
Speaker 1: him convert a third down and get into the end
Speaker 1: zone to take the lead. Late in the game, sort
Speaker 1: of a mixed bat for for Carson Wentz for Andrew Luck.
Speaker 1: We've commented that he's looked better, I think, on tape
Speaker 1: than his five point nine yards per tempt through two
Speaker 1: weeks probably indicated, but how did he look today? The
Speaker 1: numbers are even worse four yards per attempt, career low
Speaker 1: four yards per attempt. And I think if you entered
Speaker 1: this game and you thought, okay, he's got the lowest
Speaker 1: depth of target in the league, which means he's not
Speaker 1: passing deep at all. Because it's good coaching, their left
Speaker 1: tackles out, their skill petition, skill position talent isn't very good.
Speaker 1: They have no running game, get the ball out quickly,
Speaker 1: and then on the final here's the facts. In this game,
Speaker 1: he's got a less than a hundred yards. Late in
Speaker 1: the game, like middle of the fourth quarter, he doesn't
Speaker 1: even have a hundred yards. Their best play is Luck
Speaker 1: throwing it a rainbow, and then t Y Hilton getting
Speaker 1: defensive pass interference, which happened a couple of a couple
Speaker 1: of times in this game, and then down the stretch.
Speaker 1: It's weird how narratives go, because if t Y Hilton
Speaker 1: locates a faith pass and they take the lead. We
Speaker 1: never see the final desperation drive when he's checking down
Speaker 1: the whole time, never trying to threaten down the field,
Speaker 1: He's just checking down. They get the midfield, almost midfield,
Speaker 1: they bring in Jacoby precent for the hail Mary, and
Speaker 1: everyone's wondering what's wrong with Andrew Luck's arm. I think
Speaker 1: it to me, that's a sure sign that Raich is
Speaker 1: admitting Andrew Luck's arm isn't where it needs to be.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he's not Chad Pennington. Maybe he's still working
Speaker 1: back to get that arm strength. But no other no
Speaker 1: other quarterback in the league gets pulled in this situation.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're not concerned about here, Chuck what he
Speaker 1: said about this. Jacoby has a stronger arm than I do.
Speaker 1: I mean that's it's sort of what I see in practice.
Speaker 1: And you can ask, you know, the coach I was.
Speaker 1: I think the coach obviously thinks that as well. Uh,
Speaker 1: And I'll keep working on getting my arm to where,
Speaker 1: you know where, Maybe it can't hit an eight yard
Speaker 1: throw throw from the minus thirty, but no, I think
Speaker 1: it was you know, no qualms with with that decision.
Speaker 1: I'll say this as much as that Hail Mary. What
Speaker 1: bothered me was the plays before that. There are forty
Speaker 1: three seconds left. He could have worked down for he
Speaker 1: could have worked down to get the ball down the field,
Speaker 1: and instead he was just taking easy check downs for
Speaker 1: four or five yards. No desire, what's whatsoever to test
Speaker 1: the Eagles down the field. I mean, it can't be
Speaker 1: concerned at all about his durability or status and physically
Speaker 1: right now. He threw the ball fifty three yards in
Speaker 1: the opener thirty one last week, forty today. They are
Speaker 1: a very weird offense. Don't have a running back across
Speaker 1: nineteen yards today, and they don't have a receiver go
Speaker 1: for more than fifty. It's just seems like Reich is
Speaker 1: having to work with what he has with Andrew Luck
Speaker 1: and the surrounding cast right now. And we've thought that
Speaker 1: they've been scrappy, and they were scrappy. They had a
Speaker 1: lead in Philadelphia in the fourth quarter, and yet you
Speaker 1: come out of this game. I think if you're an
Speaker 1: Eagles fan, you feel pretty great that you only gave
Speaker 1: up two nine yards the defenses around the end of
Speaker 1: shape and you have Carson Wentz back and your two
Speaker 1: and one, like you got through this about Darius Leonard.
Speaker 1: Darius Leonard and Marcus Hunt both extremely impressive again this week.
Speaker 1: Let's move on to the Battle of Los Angeles. This
Speaker 1: well protected, it breaks down, he wants to run now,
Speaker 1: throws right side Cooper Cup, thirty gets through uh j
Speaker 1: B Long Jaunty and that was m j D with
Speaker 1: oh wow KSPN with the call. Jared cop threw for
Speaker 1: three fifty four and three touchdowns, including that connection with
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup, leading the Rams to three win over the Chargers,
Speaker 1: who simply could not keep up with the best offense
Speaker 1: in the NFC. Greg typical Bolts game for me. They
Speaker 1: move the ball on offense, make place to stay in
Speaker 1: the game, but they make some mistakes also, and you
Speaker 1: can't do that against the Rams. And they're building now.
Speaker 1: They were playing the best overall team in the league
Speaker 1: right now, and and the Rams are just so hard
Speaker 1: to stop that every possession that they don't score a
Speaker 1: touchdown feels like such a win for the defense. If
Speaker 1: it's such a surprise, and I'm really surprised that this
Speaker 1: was the week where the conversation, for whatever reason became
Speaker 1: is Jared Goff a system quarterback or is he something else?
Speaker 1: For some reason that was on every show, But why
Speaker 1: this week because he's coming off the best three game
Speaker 1: stretch maybe of his career. He looks awesome. This was
Speaker 1: one of the best games of his career. He had
Speaker 1: one interception, which you know he'd like to get back,
Speaker 1: but other than that, he's been playing great over the
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, especially today, fitting the ball into
Speaker 1: tight windows. Him and Robert Woods have such a great
Speaker 1: connection and Brandon Cooks has rounded out this offense that
Speaker 1: they are just so tough to stop that they line
Speaker 1: up with the same personnel every freaking snap all season basically,
Speaker 1: but they do it in such different ways that no
Speaker 1: one has any idea how to stop it. Yeah, until
Speaker 1: it changes. I'm gonna enter every week assuming that the
Speaker 1: Rams have an unfair advantage due to Sean mcveigh's beautiful
Speaker 1: mind right in continuity in players like the top two
Speaker 1: rated tackles in in football this week in terms of
Speaker 1: past protection where the Rams to tackles according to Pro
Speaker 1: Football Focus. So you can't run on this team. That's
Speaker 1: the that's the ideas that you should be able to.
Speaker 1: But when you really look at it's Brock, Sue and
Speaker 1: Donald next to each other, and it's hard to find
Speaker 1: a weakness unless a keep to leave and Marcus Peters
Speaker 1: are both seriously hurt. They both left this game, Peters
Speaker 1: with a caffe injury, to leave with an ankle, and
Speaker 1: so that that's gotta be uh making Vikings fans feel
Speaker 1: a little better. That's a short week. I I'm annoyed
Speaker 1: by the golf narrative because the team itself and I
Speaker 1: feel like they're really on. McVeigh is really honest about
Speaker 1: where the offense is. He does maybe give everyone credit
Speaker 1: and not himself, but they talked about golf becoming an
Speaker 1: extension of the coaching staff. I feel like he's someone
Speaker 1: that's grown and made leaps and bounds from last year,
Speaker 1: and he's a warning to any team that has a
Speaker 1: young quarterback and doesn't want to surround them with the
Speaker 1: best possible offensive coaches, which some teams seem to not do. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: with the Chargers, I am sorry. I cannot at this
Speaker 1: point sit through many more weeks of this. I have
Speaker 1: Chargers exhaustion. It is every week I can't listen. I
Speaker 1: get that it's the MS this week, so fair enough,
Speaker 1: it is the same game over and over. They need
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa back, and they also locked this one up.
Speaker 1: Needed that w moved to one and two. But they
Speaker 1: really they need Joey Bosa back, and they just got
Speaker 1: to clean it up on a special team. Guess they
Speaker 1: missed an extra point and uh, they also get a
Speaker 1: punt blocked in the ends when Dennal and James had
Speaker 1: a great red zone interception and then foolishly try to
Speaker 1: run it out and got forced out at the one
Speaker 1: yard line which led to two runs that almost ended
Speaker 1: into safety and then a block punt. So, uh, they
Speaker 1: just make those mistakes and they just they were outclassed.
Speaker 1: I mean McVeigh is not the only difference making coach
Speaker 1: on this team. Wade Phillips obviously is as well. And
Speaker 1: then John Fossil is a monster advantage. I mean, you
Speaker 1: you come up with a block punt, you you find
Speaker 1: this return guy what was his name last week, joo
Speaker 1: Jojo Natson, who looks like the second coming of you know,
Speaker 1: Eric Metcal and he was their backup that because they're
Speaker 1: replacing another Pro Bowl return of Farrell Cooper. It's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, if I don't know if Fossil does
Speaker 1: someone to just hire him to be their head coach
Speaker 1: because at least you get his special How about this
Speaker 1: for a hot take. You could replace John Fossil with
Speaker 1: former correspondent John Stossel and you'd still make the Charger
Speaker 1: special teams look bad. Just put Stossel in there for
Speaker 1: the Rams and he'd scheme away to take advantage of
Speaker 1: the NFL. The NFL in the right there, in the
Speaker 1: interest of helping the Los Angeles market, should give John
Speaker 1: Fossil to the Charger John Fossil where he is so
Speaker 1: he can do what he does best. Chargers, figure on
Speaker 1: your own issues out. It is exhausting to watch the
Speaker 1: team right now, the hired John Stossel. That's an answer.
Speaker 1: Next shot snap, they come after Rosa back to throw
Speaker 1: fires the right side. It is intercepted at the forty
Speaker 1: two yard line. That was an easy quick in front
Speaker 1: of Christen kirk Hi Gryce Callahan with a one time
Speaker 1: to go in the game. The Bears take over leading
Speaker 1: sixteen fourteen. That's a disappointment from Dave Pashup Katie a r.
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen replaced a battered in an ineffect of Sam Bradford,
Speaker 1: but he wasn't enough to spark the Cardinals, who fell
Speaker 1: to oh and three after a sixteen fourteen loss of
Speaker 1: the Bears. Uh Chicago was down fourteen zip in the
Speaker 1: second half, but Mitch Drabinski let a touchdown drive two
Speaker 1: field goal drives as well to pull it out. Mark Selser,
Speaker 1: the Bears, of course, are the team around the NFL,
Speaker 1: But you were grumbling throughout the afternoon about their quarterback. Well,
Speaker 1: I think the team's quarterback is Khalil Mack, who once
Speaker 1: again was the most dominant player on on the team. Well,
Speaker 1: it is an interesting strategy. I don't know where they'd
Speaker 1: be without him right now. You mean like figuratively, figuratively,
Speaker 1: not literally, you know, he did not he did not
Speaker 1: come in on offense. I They're just tough for me
Speaker 1: to watch. I really enjoy the fact that there. I
Speaker 1: think for Bears fans number one, you're two and one,
Speaker 1: you're probably like, shut up right now. We haven't been
Speaker 1: too in one in a thousand years. We'll take it.
Speaker 1: Will march on. This was a white knuckle affair. It was,
Speaker 1: you know, two teams trying to figure each other out.
Speaker 1: But the Bears offense, to me, it's like you're going,
Speaker 1: You're We're going to see this game over and over.
Speaker 1: It is a very talented stack defense that probably in
Speaker 1: the locker room has to be asking themselves, what on
Speaker 1: earth do we need to do more than one of
Speaker 1: these defenses to get our offense to complement us. And
Speaker 1: it's it I just wonder, and it's it is too
Speaker 1: early to say. And I got killed before the season
Speaker 1: for sharing my concerns. Well, no, it was like, at
Speaker 1: that's just not a fair question. It's like, listen, I
Speaker 1: just all right, well, I am now legit concerned because
Speaker 1: I just wonder if he is a no, because it's
Speaker 1: like it is is he a breakout I just wonder
Speaker 1: if he's a breakout proof quarterback because I'm just watching
Speaker 1: someone who has accuracy issues that show up over and
Speaker 1: over in the game. I love him when he's mobile
Speaker 1: and he's running, but that cannot be what Mitch Robinsky
Speaker 1: offers you a quarterback. It's really concerned at this point.
Speaker 1: And I think they like they've got nice parts around
Speaker 1: him to some degree. I totally believe in the coaching staff.
Speaker 1: But you're everyone who wanted to think you're gonna get
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh and Jared Goff Part two, Well, you don't
Speaker 1: have that, and that's not happening in the in the
Speaker 1: next month. And what happened this season? What did happen
Speaker 1: in the offseason? Mark, you were you were saying, should
Speaker 1: we be nervous about your binski? And what I think
Speaker 1: the rest of the room said was maybe it's not
Speaker 1: gonna be Jared goff uh Sean McVey part two. But
Speaker 1: he was being coached by John Fox and Friends. Last year,
Speaker 1: it was you gotta like John Fox and Friends. That's
Speaker 1: pretty good. He always had to throw it out. But
Speaker 1: now that we have a little bit more data, with
Speaker 1: a new staff and an offensive minded head coach who
Speaker 1: was really well thought of. Now I think it's fair
Speaker 1: if you're a Best Bears fan and it's still early,
Speaker 1: but to be a little bit nervous about your bisky
Speaker 1: and whether he can hack it for a team that's
Speaker 1: looking to compete for the playoffs. Yeah, I think what
Speaker 1: I've noticed in the first two weeks was his footwork
Speaker 1: is an issue, especially on ormedia and deep throws. And
Speaker 1: you're right, Mark, when he's on the run, that's when
Speaker 1: he's a good quarterback, But what about in the pocket
Speaker 1: like that? That's all fine, But they were down fourteen
Speaker 1: nothing on the road and they won the game. And
Speaker 1: like Bears have not had many seasons where you could
Speaker 1: be anything but thrilled with a win. And I do
Speaker 1: think it is a team sport here, and I think
Speaker 1: the Bears are gonna be an interesting team in the mix. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they might be. Their quarterback is not going to be
Speaker 1: their strongest position, but they were able to get out
Speaker 1: of that hole eventually turned around by shutting down Sam Bradford,
Speaker 1: getting some turnovers, setting up their offense, and making the
Speaker 1: plays at the end. So you have this new coaching
Speaker 1: staff and for the first time in for a while,
Speaker 1: even if Drabinsky is struggling, it's like, all right, these
Speaker 1: are real signs of progress. I'll give that. Like I said,
Speaker 1: they're two and one, And if you're a Bears fan,
Speaker 1: you've been in in the dark ages for so long
Speaker 1: that you don't want to hear negativity coming off a
Speaker 1: game like this. At the same time, it's just that
Speaker 1: this is the thing you traded up for bits Trabisky,
Speaker 1: You this is the guy that you scouted and said
Speaker 1: he can be it with this great class come he
Speaker 1: thought he was better than Patrick mahone exactly, and I
Speaker 1: just that's there's a lingering sort of feeling of to
Speaker 1: see like a little concerned if I'm a Bearrass fan.
Speaker 1: Outside of a fascinating defense, I was thinking about you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes I try to bring things back, thinking of bringing
Speaker 1: something back. You ready? Ready? Is it? Okay? Let's go?
Speaker 1: What do you want to guess? It's somehow Josh Rosen
Speaker 1: really ready? That bears No, it's not't been doing that
Speaker 1: on this? How about this? Hoout? This? It bringing those back?
Speaker 1: Just know that that's another phrase that has not gone
Speaker 1: away for it to come back, it's not gone away
Speaker 1: long enough. Why did we think about putting Josh Rosen
Speaker 1: in down two points with just over two minutes left.
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of criticism like, oh, you're putting
Speaker 1: in such a bad spot. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford was dreadful for three straight quarters. Give the
Speaker 1: kid a shot. He's gonna be startings no problems. What
Speaker 1: wrong with that? You tried to give your team a
Speaker 1: spark because Bradford was a lifeless You have to do
Speaker 1: this every time some a quarterback comes into a game,
Speaker 1: like examine every fast. I think it's fine, didn't right out?
Speaker 1: He got the guy got yanked because he deserved to
Speaker 1: get yanked, and they put in the rookie. You could
Speaker 1: have beat the Bears. Sto't get up set about it.
Speaker 1: It just was Look at Baker Mayfield in Cleveland. You
Speaker 1: put the kids in that you think could be the
Speaker 1: friends that worked out pretty well. Whatever, Bro, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: no unnecessary mark. Now I'm putting I'm pushing back my
Speaker 1: reading of your long form one more week. Oh it
Speaker 1: will survive. Let's move on, stops. Looks to the end zone,
Speaker 1: fire down the medal of up to fourteen days? Is
Speaker 1: it not? Yes? Show me this official? Yes. Earl Thomas
Speaker 1: very Steve rab with the call k I r O.
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas's fourth quarter interception is second of the game.
Speaker 1: Huge play both of them, Sea over the cow Boys.
Speaker 1: Thomas now has three picks in three weeks despite missing
Speaker 1: all the training camp in the preseason during a contract holdout,
Speaker 1: and now, from what we're understanding, a regular season hold
Speaker 1: in whatever that means anyway, West Both teams finished with
Speaker 1: about three yards of total offense, but Seattle gotta win.
Speaker 1: They desperately needed. I think this is creative, Like if
Speaker 1: the NFL players aren't gonna get guaranteed contracts, and you're
Speaker 1: as good as Earl Thomas is, and you've meant as
Speaker 1: much to that franchise as he is, and you don't
Speaker 1: want to pay him. He's having to hold in. He
Speaker 1: doesn't want to put his body in danger during the week,
Speaker 1: he said after the game, even if I have a headache,
Speaker 1: if I'm not I'm not practicing. And then he goes
Speaker 1: out and he's the best player on the field during
Speaker 1: the game. Everyone seemed to no one seemed to have
Speaker 1: a problem with it, at least during the game. Even
Speaker 1: the coaches are you know, everyone's everybody should have a
Speaker 1: holding nobody needs to practice. No, I don't. I think
Speaker 1: it's it's all let's all break all the rules. Okay, whatever,
Speaker 1: pay him? Why don't they trade him? There? I do
Speaker 1: like that phrase holding though, I think like I would say,
Speaker 1: he's sleep in the bed with yoga on. No, Like,
Speaker 1: what what does this? What is it? What? What didn't
Speaker 1: you prefer this? Then Bell holding out? Like, to me,
Speaker 1: at least he's showing up there on game day. He's
Speaker 1: either he's getting creative. I mean, it's kind of amazing
Speaker 1: that he did this in the week that they were
Speaker 1: playing against the Cowboys, that he picks off two passes
Speaker 1: against the Cowboys, and then he gestures to the Cowboys
Speaker 1: sideline after one of the picks, which was basically a gesture.
Speaker 1: He explained as if you wanted to trade me and
Speaker 1: extend me, you should have done it. And I'm just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas is alright, don just a little bit though,
Speaker 1: because number one, Earl Thomas and leve Bell are not
Speaker 1: the same situation. But I don't want to see leve Bell,
Speaker 1: who was a malcontent at this point, alright, I just
Speaker 1: don't like the way that I don't like the whole
Speaker 1: locker room there to begin with it. Leve Bell his
Speaker 1: solution is to simply give zero effort during the week
Speaker 1: then rolling on game day. No no, no, I'm talking,
Speaker 1: and we're saying, like extending this to leve Bell. Earl Thomas,
Speaker 1: I think like it's someone when they completely redid the
Speaker 1: whole team, Earl Thomas probably needed to go. I always
Speaker 1: thought they probably should have traded him and gotten this
Speaker 1: thing done. Let Bell, I don't agree with the idea
Speaker 1: that we give him. Oh you just rest for six stays.
Speaker 1: Here's an argument though, just because the Earl Thomas thing
Speaker 1: is fascinating. There's a strong argument he's the greatest player
Speaker 1: in franchise history and he's still playing great. So it's
Speaker 1: a unique situation. It's not your normal player anything else
Speaker 1: in the game. Well, aw Boys offense is a mess.
Speaker 1: Their offensive line got out played by the Seathawks perennially
Speaker 1: beleaguered offensive line Dak Prescott, I don't think it's going
Speaker 1: over a five yards and five straight starts and the receivers.
Speaker 1: You know, this isn't breaking any ground, but they're just
Speaker 1: not good. They went out and paid Alan Hearns, they
Speaker 1: paid Terence Williams, and those guys aren't even part of
Speaker 1: the offense. Really. They have a combined sixty nine yards
Speaker 1: and I think they're taking up about eleven or twelve million.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys are saying one team in this league is
Speaker 1: going to the title of the most boring offense watch,
Speaker 1: and we are surging towards that type. Like would you
Speaker 1: guys be cool if Erico is upset about her her
Speaker 1: working situation and said, I'll be there for the podcast,
Speaker 1: for the three shows, and maybe for the Twitter show,
Speaker 1: but I'm not going to be there for any of
Speaker 1: the pre production days. I won't help you with anything
Speaker 1: else because I'm upset with management. You have an issue
Speaker 1: with that. If she was four years, that would help
Speaker 1: her case at least, wait the greatest I'm saying if
Speaker 1: she had put I'm saying, if she had put in
Speaker 1: three years where she was the best performer at her
Speaker 1: job in the entire and the best in this you
Speaker 1: are great. But I'm just saying it's so easy for
Speaker 1: people to automatically side with the player because that's like
Speaker 1: the the chivalrous thing to do. It seems to do
Speaker 1: in our in our business, but sometimes it just strikes
Speaker 1: me as overly cold business decisions that are put at
Speaker 1: the expense of your teammates. And that's how this problem
Speaker 1: trying to parallel to us, is that our game day
Speaker 1: is seven days a week. Yeah, we never turn off.
Speaker 1: We have endless shows and list media responsibilities. You can't
Speaker 1: you can't go dark six days a week like an
Speaker 1: NFL player. This game was a reminder I think it's
Speaker 1: still gonna be tough to go to Seattle and win,
Speaker 1: and that they have enough pieces on defense I think
Speaker 1: to give people problems. Brawley McDougald has been playing great
Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner was back out there. You can't just cross
Speaker 1: them off. I feel like for the season well, especially
Speaker 1: when you have the Cowboys offensive Suddenly you know the
Speaker 1: Packers rolling with the Cowboys offense, they will have a
Speaker 1: tough time winning. There's a good start for the Seahawks.
Speaker 1: Let's see what happens next week to Sunday Night football.
Speaker 1: From the thirty three yard line on a roll Stafford
Speaker 1: deep touchdown, Marvin Jones look like Gilmore was almost expecting it,
Speaker 1: and the speed of Marvin Jones made him pay. Chris
Speaker 1: Collinsworth and Al Michael's with the call for NBC. Matt
Speaker 1: Stafford through two touchdown passes and the Detroit Lions get
Speaker 1: a one hundred yard Russian game at a carry on Johnson, Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: the first since two thousand, my goodness. Add to that
Speaker 1: a great defensive showing by the Lions and they get
Speaker 1: their first win of the season over the visiting New
Speaker 1: England Patriots. Uh. Some surprises on Sunday Night. Greg Rosethal
Speaker 1: h surprises throughout Sunday and here was another one. The
Speaker 1: Lions just looking like the better team from kickoff. So
Speaker 1: this is another level of surprise that they held the
Speaker 1: Patriots to two hundred nine yards from scrimmage. I certainly
Speaker 1: you can imagine before the game, there's scenarios. Certainly the
Speaker 1: Lions can win this game, but to totally dominate it,
Speaker 1: especially defensively, just has me thinking back to last week's
Speaker 1: game between the Lions and the fort And I know,
Speaker 1: if you look at the box score and said the
Speaker 1: Lions gave up thirty points, there was a defensive score there.
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia had Jimmy g scrambled last week, and he
Speaker 1: had Tom Brady and the Patriots receivers pretty scrambled today.
Speaker 1: They just weren't finding open receivers. And the ones that
Speaker 1: he did find with drops or me, he made bad throws.
Speaker 1: Go ahead. Well, I just thought down the stretch when
Speaker 1: you were were all sitting here watching this game, and
Speaker 1: I'll just played right through it. You know what, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna get upset of Erica because she's struggling tonight.
Speaker 1: This is this is her team, and I will be
Speaker 1: nothing but nice to you. And although I did notice,
Speaker 1: and I don't blame you at all, an extra sort
Speaker 1: of glee and and and bounce and enjoyment of the
Speaker 1: second half watching that game because you have sandwiches on
Speaker 1: the line for the Patriots demise, and like most of America,
Speaker 1: I think you would like to see a different Patriots story.
Speaker 1: It's understanding a different season. It's an unpredictable start to
Speaker 1: the season overall, and it's encased in this game where
Speaker 1: the final four possessions for New England or punt, punt,
Speaker 1: interception and knocked out on downs. This game could have
Speaker 1: gone on for eight more hours and there wouldn't have
Speaker 1: been a comeback. Nothing was working, nobody's getting open, they're
Speaker 1: all fence. Has nobody except Gronk who can beat man coverage.
Speaker 1: They desperately need Edelman and Josh Gordon and who knows
Speaker 1: what you're gonna get from John And all right, let's
Speaker 1: put this in this perspective because Patriots struggles in September
Speaker 1: have happened through the years. They have lost two games
Speaker 1: in a row. That is unusual, uh, in the recent
Speaker 1: history of Belichick and Brady, But they've never been one
Speaker 1: in two with Brady. They've never been one of two.
Speaker 1: So this is interesting ground. And what's gonna happen now.
Speaker 1: Of course, in the New England area on w e
Speaker 1: I and the local radio, everyone's gonna go nuts that
Speaker 1: they don't have enough weapons and then they don't fall,
Speaker 1: guys falling an NFL network and ESPN and everybody's gonna
Speaker 1: go nuts for a whole week. What's wrong with the Patriots?
Speaker 1: How do the Patriots get right? And if history tells
Speaker 1: us anything, they'll just start steamrolling teams eventually. But it
Speaker 1: does seem like this team has a lot of work
Speaker 1: to do right now. They don't seem like to me
Speaker 1: they are nearly as dire straits as everybody last year
Speaker 1: wondering if they have the worst defense in the league
Speaker 1: after three games the two thousand and fourteen season, when
Speaker 1: the Chiefs took him to the wood shed and everybody
Speaker 1: people in that press conference asked Bill Belichick if he
Speaker 1: was gonna bench Tom Brady Like this team, to me,
Speaker 1: does not feel like it's as much dangerous those to
Speaker 1: those two teams were. They they have a lot of problems,
Speaker 1: though they can't pick up a third and one. The
Speaker 1: equation going into the year was that the defense is
Speaker 1: gonna need to be better because you're gonna start out
Speaker 1: the season slow offensively. I think they're slower than they
Speaker 1: would have expected, certainly in this game, but I think
Speaker 1: Patricia was a huge part of that. But the key
Speaker 1: is that the defense can't get off the field. They're
Speaker 1: they're not bringing a lot to the table. And I've
Speaker 1: talked with you before the game even started, Dan that
Speaker 1: they were missing three defensive starters, including their best to
Speaker 1: win Trey Flowers, and that was gonna be a factor.
Speaker 1: And this is a team with a smaller margin for error.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna need to win close games. They're
Speaker 1: gonna need to figure out, you know, different ways how
Speaker 1: they won games early on last decade, and so far
Speaker 1: they're not coming up with anything. I mean, we know
Speaker 1: that New England spends the first constantly adjusting and figuring
Speaker 1: out who they are, but this is one of the
Speaker 1: few even in those other years, you still see the pieces.
Speaker 1: I look at this New England offense right now and
Speaker 1: it lacks identity. But what other team in the league says,
Speaker 1: we'll soon have Julian Edelman and by the way, we
Speaker 1: just get we just got Josh Gordon for like a
Speaker 1: basket of fruit. And by the way, he could be
Speaker 1: dominant too. So it's like you're adding to kepe me.
Speaker 1: Those are two huge if I mean I thought he
Speaker 1: looked good in the preseason. I know we're not allowed
Speaker 1: to point to that, but you know, Josh Gordon's Josh Gordon.
Speaker 1: Josh Gordon is an if if he can't get on
Speaker 1: the field. I'm just saying if, but if if we're
Speaker 1: talking about the overall experience of Josh Gordon, but if
Speaker 1: he's if he's plugged in any places week to week.
Speaker 1: He is not an if he is a dominant player.
Speaker 1: But those are two ifs in the sense of I
Speaker 1: think the Patriots need help on offense, and you need one,
Speaker 1: if not both of those guys to be them at
Speaker 1: their themselves, at their best. So I think the Patriots
Speaker 1: it is a bit of an uneasy time. I think
Speaker 1: on the throne of sleeves sky is not falling. I'm
Speaker 1: not like like rubbing my hands together like a villain
Speaker 1: saying this is eight and eight season, but I think
Speaker 1: this is a little bit of a shaky start and
Speaker 1: something to keep an eye on. Here's what I'd say
Speaker 1: that Patriots fans except a different type of season, Like
Speaker 1: maybe I I almost I almost feel guilty maybe of
Speaker 1: how many incredibly dominant you know, by years that they've had.
Speaker 1: But there are all sorts of different ways to have
Speaker 1: football seasons, and it's not the end of the world
Speaker 1: if they are three and three or their four and
Speaker 1: four and they're figuring out and they try to get
Speaker 1: deep into the playoffs a different way because as a
Speaker 1: Patriots fan, not a lot of it matters really except
Speaker 1: the playoffs. It's a very spoiled way to look at it.
Speaker 1: But it's a long season, and it's okay if you're
Speaker 1: not looking too great for seven, eight, nine weeks, even
Speaker 1: if you can end up closing. They just you know,
Speaker 1: they have a lot to figure out. Are you okay, Erica?
Speaker 1: That Erica had a moderate Twitter melt down during the game.
Speaker 1: Should we watched her through the glass? Watched the game?
Speaker 1: Obviously a very emotional Patriots fan. Do you we're gonna
Speaker 1: give you the floor? Do you want to care to
Speaker 1: make a statement or deliver some type of admissive to
Speaker 1: the audience. I mean, the Lions outplayed us on both
Speaker 1: sides of the ball. MA Patricia outcoached us. Belichick Belichick.
Speaker 1: Belichick has been out coached every game since the Divisional
Speaker 1: round of last year's playoffs. WHOA why don't you hit
Speaker 1: a bunch of burner? Boats. So I mean that take
Speaker 1: was so hot. It was a little too hot. I
Speaker 1: feel like you're saying Doug Moron out coached them in
Speaker 1: the a f C Championship game. Entering the game, I
Speaker 1: love that take. Maybe not throughout the game, but what's
Speaker 1: happening feels like they had a better game plan. Brian
Speaker 1: coached them in tweet that and watch it take off
Speaker 1: into Scott. I'm not what what was it that you
Speaker 1: loved about bell O'Brien's Week one. I didn't love anything.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that to look at Belicheck and to
Speaker 1: look at Bill Belichick, it's just the van had the
Speaker 1: wrong gradual decline. Maybe it's Belichick. Tom Brady, He's a
Speaker 1: balloon there on a deep all. The fourth quarter of
Speaker 1: this game made me think that maybe I'm finally on
Speaker 1: the right track. Brady hasn't had a good three games,
Speaker 1: and I think that that is the most concerning part
Speaker 1: of it. Even Week one, where where he moved the
Speaker 1: ball and had an overall good game, he had six
Speaker 1: or seven incompletes, just inaccurate throws, which you don't see
Speaker 1: from him. He has not been accurate. I think it
Speaker 1: does have to do with the pieces around him. But
Speaker 1: when is the last time we were sitting here? You're
Speaker 1: mining deep into the second half he has ninety yards
Speaker 1: passing crazy, Yeah, you could go back. I don't even
Speaker 1: know if it's ever happened about the Dolphins game in
Speaker 1: December last year. That wasn't quite as bad, but you're right,
Speaker 1: it was similar. Happens to the Lions who got off
Speaker 1: the mat and Matt Patricia, who really has weather to
Speaker 1: storm here to start his career, that had to feel good.
Speaker 1: I think he probably was hoping that Belichick would maybe
Speaker 1: give him a little bit of a longer hug, maybe
Speaker 1: say something encouraging or something congratulatory. But Bill is not
Speaker 1: going to do that because Bill is not that type
Speaker 1: of guy. That's not how and then walk off whatever. Bill,
Speaker 1: But Matt Patricia, your boy, your student, actually beat the
Speaker 1: picture of the teacher. It's a massive win for them,
Speaker 1: who shouldn't be thinking their seasons over by any means.
Speaker 1: Suddenly you're one and two. Suddenly the Giants feel differently
Speaker 1: about their season. Suddenly the Bills feel differently. It's like
Speaker 1: it's not too early to get off. Are these Lions
Speaker 1: veterans who were so peaked about having to work hard
Speaker 1: and suddenly a practice is a little tougher. Are we
Speaker 1: are we thinking maybe they're starting to wake up to
Speaker 1: this world? Will calm down. You can't expect football players
Speaker 1: to run mark the Bears, great defense, questionable quarterback situation,
Speaker 1: first place around the NFL podcast, the Packers a suspect
Speaker 1: skill corps and also a quarterback that's all beat up,
Speaker 1: and the Vikings just got waxed at home by the Bills.
Speaker 1: NFC North is not a closed book. I'm jack all right. Now,
Speaker 1: next time you hear from us, we'll be uh, you'll
Speaker 1: see us, and please do all we ask with peace
Speaker 1: and love, is that you give our Twitter show a chance.
Speaker 1: I know it's different than the audio format and all that,
Speaker 1: but it's our Tuesday, one thirty Pacific, four thirty Eastern. Uh,
Speaker 1: check us out. We'll have Reggie Bush with us. I'm
Speaker 1: sure we'll touch on whether he's angry that Kerry On
Speaker 1: Johnson has now taken the torch five years later as
Speaker 1: the last one thousand yard rusher for the Ones. I'm
Speaker 1: sure by about it. Oh yeah, d oh my god,
Speaker 1: what a horrible just like eighty other things to brag about.
Speaker 1: I think it's fine. So Touch bases Reggie on that,
Speaker 1: but thank you to everyone for listening. People should really
Speaker 1: check out Mark's long form. I know we've we've mentioned
Speaker 1: a little bit, but it for anyone that's a big
Speaker 1: enough fan to listen to this show. It really connected
Speaker 1: with me just growing up being a fan, and I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna do that with anyone that that listens
Speaker 1: to it. So I think if you haven't checked it out,
Speaker 1: please do. I will. I just need a little direct
Speaker 1: I wasn't really directed a Dan that was more listeners.
Speaker 1: I knew Dan was sitting it out for a few weeks,
Speaker 1: just about ten to twelve days. All right, Kay, okay,
Speaker 1: let's go. I'm sorry. I'm sorry I was a jerk
Speaker 1: to you. Yeah. No, she's hurt. Okay, that completely hates us.
Speaker 1: Dan hands is signing off for Quiet Storm, the Mailman,
Speaker 1: the old Boss. I'm Ricky, Hollywood. She's had better nights.
Speaker 1: I've been there, Darling, hanging there. You'll be in the
Speaker 1: super Bowl until Tuesday. M