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Speaker 1: play fake cough lift time fires down field and the
Speaker 1: catcher's paid by Cooper Cup. He saw the twenty to
Speaker 1: ten touchdown seventy yards from cough to come hash time
Speaker 1: fires pown field looking for cooks, bakes to couch in
Speaker 1: the Azoll touchdown branding conch head fake fire steel, It
Speaker 1: has it inside the ten. He's into the Zoll for
Speaker 1: a Vikings touchdown. God throws over the middle of which
Speaker 1: makes the catch touchdown. There it is the Golden God.
Speaker 1: Jared goth As the Night of his life five touchdown
Speaker 1: passes over four hundred yards through the air on Thursday
Speaker 1: Night Football. He led the way for the Los Angeles Rams,
Speaker 1: the erstwhile team of around the NFL, a thirty eight
Speaker 1: to thirty one win over the Vikings, who simply could
Speaker 1: not keep up with the Rams, but they gave it
Speaker 1: a good fight. An incredible showing from goth and a
Speaker 1: triple play of wide receivers who all went over a
Speaker 1: hundred yards. Greg Rosenthal, Chris Westling, Mark Sessor, We're all
Speaker 1: here at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, and what we
Speaker 1: got to witness is one of the greatest shootouts in
Speaker 1: recent primetime memory. We got to see football in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: I think the way it's meant to be played. Something
Speaker 1: is building here, and I think you can see it
Speaker 1: when the players are running off the field and the
Speaker 1: crowd is going crazy. It's in a sighting brand of football.
Speaker 1: With Sean McVeigh and Jared Goff put together about two
Speaker 1: or three passes that were some of the prettiest passes
Speaker 1: I've ever seen live in my entire life. And I
Speaker 1: think for the country that hasn't watched the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, everyone knows now he's not a system quarterback.
Speaker 1: Everyone knows he does enough to bring this team to
Speaker 1: the Promised Land. He's not someone I'm concerned between the
Speaker 1: tackles unknown. I haven't been around many playoff atmospheres, but
Speaker 1: even though there were a lot of Vikings fans in
Speaker 1: the stadium around third, late third quarter, early fourth, you know,
Speaker 1: the towels were waving whose house, Ram's house? This place
Speaker 1: was going pretty wild. West. I loved what you said
Speaker 1: around the third quarter when you basically said, this is
Speaker 1: a football game from fifteen years from now. This is
Speaker 1: new offense, this is the new NFL and the whole
Speaker 1: concept of systing quarterback. This is a team that's basically,
Speaker 1: once again put a statement up and said, if you
Speaker 1: want to stop us in the NFC, you need to
Speaker 1: put up forty one to forty four points and try
Speaker 1: to keep us down because this is what they do
Speaker 1: every game. Fact that they only scored thirty eight feels
Speaker 1: like they kind of left points on the field and
Speaker 1: Sam faking missed a chip shot that would a game
Speaker 1: of forty burger but would put the game. What are
Speaker 1: you gonna do about it? And they needed the defensive stop,
Speaker 1: which they got from John Franklin Myers. Of all people
Speaker 1: in the strip, Sack Vikings had the ball near midfield,
Speaker 1: two minutes to play, but Cousins takes the sack. Cousins,
Speaker 1: who by the way, went over four himself and throw
Speaker 1: three touchdowns. But this was the night. This night was
Speaker 1: about Jared gofv who not for nothing, gentlemen, going into
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, entering the fourth quarter four dred and
Speaker 1: fifty nine yards, five touchdowns, no interceptions. He ends the
Speaker 1: game with a perfect pass, raiding one fifty eight point three.
Speaker 1: It's such a contrast. It was such a contrast watching
Speaker 1: the coaches leave the field. You saw Sean McVeigh talking
Speaker 1: with his old colleague Kirk Cousins, and then you saw
Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer leaving totally dejected and and just with his
Speaker 1: shoulder son, And it made me think, how if you
Speaker 1: have the choice offense of coaches and building your team
Speaker 1: around offense is like the only way to go in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Now, Like Mike Zimmer has built this team
Speaker 1: around defense, and that's great, he has great continuity, great talent.
Speaker 1: But in the end, you can build your team around
Speaker 1: defense and you're gonna give up five and fifty six
Speaker 1: yards to the Rams because it's two thousand eighteen. That's
Speaker 1: just how the league works John Franklin Myers by the
Speaker 1: way working at Appleby's two weeks ago, according to my
Speaker 1: records Total Stuff. Zimmer also watched his Pro Bowl linebacker
Speaker 1: Anthony Barr just picked out targeted in coverage and it
Speaker 1: made me think, how long until linebackers go the way
Speaker 1: of fullbacks? Are they an endangered species because they cannot
Speaker 1: cover against these new, newfangled offenses. And it points out
Speaker 1: that Sean McVeigh is setting up some of these matches.
Speaker 1: There were some plays like the Cooper Cup touchdown, which
Speaker 1: was a beautiful throw, the one down the field. Those
Speaker 1: are beautifully designed play. So the question isn't like is
Speaker 1: it the scheme or is it golf? It can be both,
Speaker 1: and when it is both, it's like, who's gonna stop that.
Speaker 1: What I love right now is as we're recording this
Speaker 1: us Deefon Diggs believe that this was a high octane
Speaker 1: production and scurry around the field and not be on
Speaker 1: a camera. Well, he just got some amazing cookies and
Speaker 1: then he waved at marks he heard him. You got
Speaker 1: Connie Fox about twenty yards away from us, uh doing
Speaker 1: her live coverage. Definitely kind of you know, showing off
Speaker 1: a little bit showing where she's when he starts to
Speaker 1: understand why she's making the money that she's making. But
Speaker 1: we have more to get to. It's time to welcome
Speaker 1: a guest and uh he is a safety for the
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams. John Johnson. Welcome to the Around the
Speaker 1: NFL podcast. How are you? I'm doing well? Thanks for
Speaker 1: having How about that? So you had a front row
Speaker 1: seat a sideline seat for Jared Goff and what was
Speaker 1: an offensive explosion that had to be fun to watch? Oh,
Speaker 1: it's definitely fun to watch. It's funny you say that
Speaker 1: because Cooper cut posted a picture a couple of days ago,
Speaker 1: and I say, we get the best seats in the house.
Speaker 1: So it's fun every week watching those guys compete on
Speaker 1: a night like that where it's just they're just going
Speaker 1: up and down the field, but the Vikings are definitely
Speaker 1: getting there points kind of like what's going through the
Speaker 1: defense's mind and in your mind. We just try to
Speaker 1: string together as many stops as possible. It's so weird
Speaker 1: because we score so quickly on offense and it feels
Speaker 1: like we're getting stops, but we look up at the
Speaker 1: score board and it's a closed game. So it's kind
Speaker 1: of weird, but we just try to do our best.
Speaker 1: There's two twenty to play, and this is a game
Speaker 1: that because Golf and Company had such a special night,
Speaker 1: you think it's over, but it's a seven point game
Speaker 1: and you get the big sack and the strip and
Speaker 1: you recover it. So in a game that's remembered for
Speaker 1: the offense and we remember for the offense the defense.
Speaker 1: Actually they got the job done at the end. You
Speaker 1: guys handle business. Yeah, it's like a marriage. Those guys
Speaker 1: in front working so hard. We just got to cover
Speaker 1: for as long as possible. And uh, we know n
Speaker 1: and ninety they will get home eventually. So it's great
Speaker 1: to have those guys number one. I really appreciate the
Speaker 1: fact that you're doing this with us. We nearly got
Speaker 1: mowed down by a steam roll or that's attempting to
Speaker 1: I don't know what what the role of this machine
Speaker 1: is on this field, but because when we were at
Speaker 1: Rams camp in August, they had the lawnmowers going right
Speaker 1: behind us, and I feel like, are they trolling us?
Speaker 1: I think it a stronger quick that's not even for
Speaker 1: a football. It's a steam Why is the steam roller
Speaker 1: on the field stick to a driveway rolling on the field. Hey,
Speaker 1: you might want to take it out with the operations guy.
Speaker 1: Apologize one thing though, Like you see teams around the
Speaker 1: league where the offense is letting the defense down, and
Speaker 1: I would imagine it creates some tension or division the
Speaker 1: locker room. What is it like in the Rams locker
Speaker 1: room when they are just they have your back, you
Speaker 1: have their back both sides of the ball in concert
Speaker 1: week after week. Oh, I think that goes to Coachean
Speaker 1: McVeigh um our mottel Is we not me where? I
Speaker 1: think we're probably the most connected team in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I haven't been on other locker rooms, but we're a
Speaker 1: real connected team and we don't we don't turn on
Speaker 1: each other. So I think that's what helps us the most. Well.
Speaker 1: First of all, you're one of Greg's favorite players. He
Speaker 1: talks about you all the campaign. The president PFF also
Speaker 1: a label John Johnson the secret Superstar. Yeah. Secondly, do
Speaker 1: you when you look over across the field and you
Speaker 1: see what Sean mcveigh's scheme and Jared Goff's arm and
Speaker 1: what your receivers are doing, the great linebackers like Anthony Barr,
Speaker 1: does that make you thankful that you've play safety and
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about where the game is
Speaker 1: going in the future. Oh definitely. Um, Like you said, man,
Speaker 1: we practice against those guys every day. We know what
Speaker 1: they're capable of, and it's just amazing to see those
Speaker 1: guys go out there and show the world what they
Speaker 1: can do. What was it like tonight for you with
Speaker 1: you know, the injuries at cornerback that your does your
Speaker 1: responsibilities change or what what changed back there in the secondary?
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think much change. You know, guys
Speaker 1: like Sam Shields, Troy Hill, they could be starters on
Speaker 1: another team, so there's no drop off from you know,
Speaker 1: when Mark Marcus and the Kip got her. But um,
Speaker 1: I'm glad that Marcus played. He's a rock, he's a
Speaker 1: soldier and uh, we just went from there the steam
Speaker 1: rollers coming this time he means business. Yeah, he means business.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. It's gonna show our professionalism.
Speaker 1: Todd Girl, who was on the TNF set, Uh, and
Speaker 1: he said this. I'm gonna give you a quote. He
Speaker 1: just said this. Any team can be beat right now,
Speaker 1: but now we can't be beat right now. No, it's
Speaker 1: hants or bust about it? Do you look can you
Speaker 1: just repeat that? Yeah? I hate that he said that,
Speaker 1: but I agree. That's the type of confidence you gotta
Speaker 1: have in this league. If you don't, you'll get beat.
Speaker 1: Like you said, you could be any week. So right
Speaker 1: now we're hot. We gotta keep it going. Rams four
Speaker 1: oh h looking unstoppable. John Johnson one part of the team.
Speaker 1: But this is a team that could beat you in
Speaker 1: any way. John, thank you for joining us. Thanks for
Speaker 1: having than John there, he goes, John Johnson, thanks for
Speaker 1: joining us. Final thoughts on the game. It really was
Speaker 1: a kind of a special game to be at offense
Speaker 1: at this level. I think that you are accountable. Hot
Speaker 1: take is in good shape and it doesn't bother me
Speaker 1: when Todd Gurley and John Johnson talked that way. Because
Speaker 1: there's a take that the Rams are gonna be in
Speaker 1: the last team to lose a game. This looks like
Speaker 1: a super fow team. I feel good about it. You
Speaker 1: should mark uh take for me. When we were at
Speaker 1: Rams camp, Kevin Diamoff from the from the Rams basically
Speaker 1: said he was concerned about us showing up to another
Speaker 1: Rams game because we were here for the playoff game
Speaker 1: and they got ounced. Uh, we're back on board. I
Speaker 1: feel like we'll be allowed to another event. I hope
Speaker 1: next time. Good final thought, I never I never left. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know my sneaky starts and I never left. What
Speaker 1: does that I've been on the rams fandwagon. That's all exactly.
Speaker 1: I don't care. You can be fans. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like West as a fan of the Patriots over the
Speaker 1: last couple years. I'm a fan of excellence, a great nonsense.
Speaker 1: The sneaky superstar tonight was y G. A breakout performance
Speaker 1: by the l A Trap who came out, did a
Speaker 1: between quarter, just great set. But the fact that Robert
Speaker 1: Woods scored the touchdown and then handed the ball over
Speaker 1: to there were a lot of moments here where you
Speaker 1: do feel like, hey, this is l A. It was
Speaker 1: a very Los angel production, completely out of control, and
Speaker 1: y G. I kept my eyes on him after that celebration.
Speaker 1: After the Woods touchdown, poured himself some tequila, so he
Speaker 1: had a nice day. My final thought, yeah, I hate
Speaker 1: to see it, but West getting heckled for the first
Speaker 1: time from the stands A man that went after the
Speaker 1: fact that you were wearing a scarf. Your thoughts about
Speaker 1: that well ever since I had a life altering, life
Speaker 1: threatening disease and you didn pull the card on that
Speaker 1: guy and shut them down. Yeah. My I've been skinny
Speaker 1: and I'm bald, and I get cooled really easily. And
Speaker 1: if that makes me a woss, it makes me away
Speaker 1: the West, your new sort of new era, new Age
Speaker 1: West fashion fashionista. It's gonna it's gonna net some criticism
Speaker 1: from certain male figures like it did to especially Salty
Speaker 1: Vikings fans who you know now thestime, I'm going up
Speaker 1: in the stands. Alright, the it's coming back to steam roller,
Speaker 1: So let's wrap it up. We have a lot more
Speaker 1: games to get to, so let's throw it there and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna beat this man in the steam roller. Let's
Speaker 1: go to the rest of the week four be Around
Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. Have you've seen Greg and chest Harror?
Speaker 1: Welcome back to another addition to the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Ass and I'm joined in the
Speaker 1: room build with heroes, Mark Seiler, Chris. What is up? Boys? Hey? Dan,
Speaker 1: I don't think I can unsee Greg's chest. A lot
Speaker 1: of people didn't expect it, and that's what they got.
Speaker 1: I heard actually now, since it came up, I wasn't
Speaker 1: going to talk about this, but a source came up
Speaker 1: to me in the newsroom yesterday and said that they
Speaker 1: tried to grab Greg to have a quick conversation with
Speaker 1: a Chargers team official that was on the campus, and
Speaker 1: Greg kept walking, did a wave of the hand and said,
Speaker 1: I have media commitments for my other job. Direct quote.
Speaker 1: This is ridiculous. She yelled at me, media commitments for
Speaker 1: my other job. Soona, Shona, you know who you are, brassy,
Speaker 1: she yelled at me from a hundred feet away, literally
Speaker 1: while I was getting into my car, And yeah, I
Speaker 1: was late to a to another job. Job I find it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if they pay you for it's a job, you have another.
Speaker 1: I mean. It's the most intriguing element is that you
Speaker 1: didn't anything against the wishes of one of the two
Speaker 1: l A football teams. I thought you would have gotten
Speaker 1: laded into line and gone and down. You couldn't have
Speaker 1: reported this story more early. It was the Minnesota Vikings, right,
Speaker 1: They had talked to us about being here and had
Speaker 1: a wonderful they were nowhere near it. I thought they
Speaker 1: were going to come watch the podcast, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: was literally in the car on my way out. I
Speaker 1: got the team wrong, but everything else is accurate. Greg
Speaker 1: a hand wave, a dismissal, and a commentary that he
Speaker 1: had to get to his other job for media commitments.
Speaker 1: That was true, brass Seed, give me a break. Uh,
Speaker 1: this is our Thursday Night Week four previews slash Thursday
Speaker 1: Night Football recap. You just heard us, of course from
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Coliseum, Rams and Vikings. And now we're going
Speaker 1: to go through all of the games that will be
Speaker 1: played on Sunday and Monday. How's the schedule feel for
Speaker 1: you this week? Greg? And you're excited about Week four?
Speaker 1: I'm not happy with the bye week in Week four.
Speaker 1: Two teams are off. It's like, come on week four,
Speaker 1: we need to see it. It'll make the show about
Speaker 1: three minutes shorter. A little news involving one of the
Speaker 1: teams on by the Carolina Panthers um Eric Read, the
Speaker 1: safety has been out of work, tied to the Colin
Speaker 1: Kaepernick kneeling uh storyline that's dominated the football landscape for
Speaker 1: over a year. He is now employed, even though he
Speaker 1: has an ongoing still the collusion case. I don't know
Speaker 1: what happens with that now. I don't know that maybe
Speaker 1: you have to get its ongoing. Gabe Feldman does that,
Speaker 1: he does that hurt your case if you get hired.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it doesn't matter. But he got hired,
Speaker 1: and Greg I thought you you put it well in
Speaker 1: your in a tweet that maybe under prior ownership. Um
Speaker 1: almost definitely under prior ownership. Eric Read is not signing
Speaker 1: with the Panthers, but with David Tepper at the helmetstead
Speaker 1: of Jerry Richardson, Reid gets off the unemployment line. They
Speaker 1: needed a safety in the worst way. They need a
Speaker 1: starting safety. According to Ian rap War, they thought Read
Speaker 1: was the best available by far, so they didn't really
Speaker 1: have to think too long about it. He called it
Speaker 1: a football decision, and that was that. They did run
Speaker 1: it by David Tepper, but it didn't seem like it
Speaker 1: was that big of a deal to them. They didn't
Speaker 1: bring They didn't bring up anything to do with Read
Speaker 1: support of, you know, social injustice causes during their interviews
Speaker 1: or anything like that. This is the type of NFL
Speaker 1: owner we need more of in the NFL right now.
Speaker 1: Quite the contrast to the Falcons, who came out this
Speaker 1: week after losing both starting safeties in the first three
Speaker 1: weeks and said now we're good. We're just gonna develop
Speaker 1: from within. Panthers edge out to Falcons by one game
Speaker 1: in the standings because their secondaries better. I think people
Speaker 1: should ask some questions, and there is there was a
Speaker 1: report the forty Niners actually talked to Read about possibly
Speaker 1: bringing him back, and I think he liked the idea
Speaker 1: of going to a new organization better and so he did.
Speaker 1: All right, there you go, there's the update on Eric Read.
Speaker 1: Let's now get into the Sunday games and we'll start
Speaker 1: with a ter conference battle intra conference battle between the
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals in the Atlanta Falcons. Falcons one and two.
Speaker 1: Like non conference. I like the intro. I like it
Speaker 1: gives it a little but if you know, if we're
Speaker 1: not totally sure, if that's not I you know, I
Speaker 1: say in truck with with some security, But then I
Speaker 1: get tweets telling you that I'm wrong. Yeah right, I'm
Speaker 1: saying if we're not sure, that the listeners may not
Speaker 1: be sure, and you just want to they may. Can
Speaker 1: you look that up just to make sure which conference conference?
Speaker 1: Till it? Right? But no, this is a f C
Speaker 1: versus NFC, So a f C versus NFC shown. That's
Speaker 1: what I would say, so I had it right either, No,
Speaker 1: I think it is in anyway the Falcons. Uh, they
Speaker 1: are looking really good on offense. Uh. Actually they're from
Speaker 1: statistic wise maybe not. They're they're tied for eleventh and
Speaker 1: total offense. But Matt Ryan, all the things that have
Speaker 1: struggled with last year and their offense in the red zone,
Speaker 1: that's all been washed away. He's coming off a five
Speaker 1: touchdown game, but it came in a loss against the Saints. Uh.
Speaker 1: Now they're playing a Bengals team that could not keep
Speaker 1: up with the Panthers last week. Nice battle here, Greg Mark,
Speaker 1: good move. What do you think about this game? I
Speaker 1: want to say real quickly though, before we get going that.
Speaker 1: I have tried to get a lot of game pass
Speaker 1: work done this week, but have had to hire the
Speaker 1: help of two went on Craig's list and hire the
Speaker 1: help of two female U c l A students to
Speaker 1: watch some of these game pass games. This is one
Speaker 1: of them, and to send me dense notes before the
Speaker 1: show begins. Got them about ten minutes ago. Here's what
Speaker 1: I um and learning. Was our opportunity to get the
Speaker 1: show wrapped up quickly. This is from Juliet Tosh, a
Speaker 1: French literature major at u C l A. She is
Speaker 1: very impressed with the fixed red zone scenario for the Falcons.
Speaker 1: They have red zone mark over the last two weeks.
Speaker 1: Watching the Bengals on Sunday, though, what is they fixed
Speaker 1: their issues? Where all everyone's talking about the red LA
Speaker 1: game pass to just pick out those stats, Well, listen,
Speaker 1: you can take that up with Juliet Tosh, French literature major.
Speaker 1: But I one thing with Cincinnati. They did try to
Speaker 1: keep up with the Panthers, but they don't have Joe
Speaker 1: Mixon and you've got John Ross, who I think if
Speaker 1: you get him going is one thing. He has yardage
Speaker 1: totals of three, eight and sixteen the last three weeks,
Speaker 1: and the really only thing they had was trying to
Speaker 1: get a j Green down the field. And then he
Speaker 1: went out last week and he's back. It sounds like,
Speaker 1: but their their offense was they're essentially leaning almost entirely
Speaker 1: on Andy Dalton to do every for everything for them
Speaker 1: against THEE. That's a bad formula for for Cincinnati. Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton keep an eye on. He has a groin issue
Speaker 1: he left the game last week. Is he gonna be
Speaker 1: okay in this game. It sounds like he's gonna play,
Speaker 1: But is he gonna be Andy Dalton West Tyler Eifford?
Speaker 1: Who's J Green with the groin issue? Right? What did
Speaker 1: I say? Andy Dalton? Yeah? Excuse me? And A J. Green,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry has the groin issue. Tyler Eifford has looked
Speaker 1: better in the last couple of weeks. I wonder if
Speaker 1: he has a bigger role in perhaps a breakout game
Speaker 1: this week. I'm not sure if he's even playing more
Speaker 1: snaps than C. J. Isama And and Tyler Croft. Um,
Speaker 1: they're they're using effort, but it seems like they have
Speaker 1: imposed a limit on him to keep him healthy to
Speaker 1: like twenty to twenty five snaps a game. Um, I
Speaker 1: don't know if he's quite as explosive, but he's certainly
Speaker 1: a red zone threat. He's catching passes, and they're good
Speaker 1: at tight end, Like they have three tight ends they
Speaker 1: can use. You have, like Tyler Boyd is their number
Speaker 1: one receiver this year in terms of yardage. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's on pace for thirteen hundred yards. John Ross a
Speaker 1: huge disappointment. I think they can be fine even without him,
Speaker 1: especially when mixings back, and I think they'll be fine
Speaker 1: this week because they're playing one of the worst defenses
Speaker 1: in football. I mean, dan Quinn. They gave up five
Speaker 1: hundred yards for the first time since he was the
Speaker 1: Falcons coach last week aftery no resistance really the last
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and I know a lot of it
Speaker 1: is injuries. That's just that's just how it is. And
Speaker 1: they don't have a system apparently in place that can survive.
Speaker 1: Even when Tack McKinley has been on the field, they
Speaker 1: don't have much of a pass rush and when he's
Speaker 1: off the field, they basically have nothing. One real quick
Speaker 1: thing the Bengals need to fix. I thought Carlos Dunlap
Speaker 1: had a great game last week, but Day in general
Speaker 1: got gashed by the run. I mean that that's not
Speaker 1: supposed to be happening to this front seven. And like
Speaker 1: they they that game was essentially to me, not as
Speaker 1: close as the score looked. Thank you, Juliet Juliet Trench
Speaker 1: and uh and now I actually watched this game last Sunday,
Speaker 1: so that's coming to uh. It is a mismatch. They
Speaker 1: have Geno Atkins, who's playing as well as he's ever
Speaker 1: playing against this off. Tyler ep by the way, has
Speaker 1: They've been increasing his snaps each week, so it seems
Speaker 1: like they're trying to work him into the offense. But
Speaker 1: you're right, West, I think they're very wary of his
Speaker 1: injury history. Let's move on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. On
Speaker 1: a short week, they got uh the Chicago Bears at
Speaker 1: Soldier Field. We know what's going on in Tampa. West
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick not as golden on Monday night, but still an
Speaker 1: NFL record as third straight four yard game. Uh. Now
Speaker 1: here's real challenge us because as much trouble as Chicago
Speaker 1: is having on the offensive side of the ball, uh,
Speaker 1: Mr Drobisky has been underwhelming. That defense is for real.
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack at the front of it fits Magic versus
Speaker 1: the Bears D This is a great matchup. We have
Speaker 1: given Todd Monk in the play caller for the Bucks,
Speaker 1: a ton of praise and now you're going up against
Speaker 1: the defense it might be the best in the league.
Speaker 1: They they could have had a pick six last week
Speaker 1: if not for an offsides call. On top of everything
Speaker 1: else they did to the Cardinals. One of the Cardinals
Speaker 1: touchdown basically came one play after a Trabisky turnover, so
Speaker 1: it wasn't even a drive. This defense is on fire,
Speaker 1: and I think from the offensive point of view for
Speaker 1: the Bears, the rest of the offense is getting a
Speaker 1: free pass just because Trabinsky is struggling. But Allen Robinson
Speaker 1: looks a little slower than I remember him in Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: He doesn't impress me that much. They need to get
Speaker 1: the ball in three Cohen's hands more often, I think,
Speaker 1: because they're lacking playmaking ability, um and I don't see
Speaker 1: any like game breakers on this offense outside of Code Well.
Speaker 1: We were so excited about Taylor Gabriel. They don't have
Speaker 1: a receiver over ninety yards other than Allen Robinson, who
Speaker 1: has been solid. It's hard for me to tell because
Speaker 1: Trabisky has such obvious limited a year, I want more
Speaker 1: than solid, right but Trabisky has such limitations right now
Speaker 1: that it is hard to evaluate the rest of the group.
Speaker 1: He's thrown for five point seven yards per attempt in
Speaker 1: a league where everyone's over seven and eight right now,
Speaker 1: and he's so not calm in the pocket. He's so frenetic,
Speaker 1: and that's one of the things people are worried about
Speaker 1: with him, that Okay, this offense is quarterback friendly, but
Speaker 1: there's a lot to take in mentally, there's a lot
Speaker 1: to process, and that he's kind of just a little
Speaker 1: scrambled right now, he's not processing, and it's really helping
Speaker 1: out one of my favorite little corners of the Internet,
Speaker 1: which is Mitchell Traubinsky can't throw left truth or Twitter.
Speaker 1: This has been a thing that's been going This has
Speaker 1: been going on for a few years. I feel like
Speaker 1: I crossed his body. Essentially. This is like Christian McCaffrey
Speaker 1: can't run through the right, except this one has incredible
Speaker 1: statistical evidence dating back from college and right through UH
Speaker 1: into the pros Arief Hacan, who's a good writer at
Speaker 1: the Athletic who has the numbers, and like he right now,
Speaker 1: Traubisky can't throw past the Linus scrimmage though was left
Speaker 1: pretty much hasn't done it throughout it. I know everyone
Speaker 1: brings this up, but the fact that Patrick Mahomes has
Speaker 1: thrown four more touchdowns in eleven fewer games in Trabisky
Speaker 1: in essentially an offense with a very similar playbook, with
Speaker 1: similar coaches that came from the same system. I just
Speaker 1: like the one thing about this game is at the
Speaker 1: Bucks for all the mistakes you might get from Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 1: If he does what he's been doing and puts up
Speaker 1: three touchdowns, how do the Bears keep up on off?
Speaker 1: But they're playing one of the worst defenses in the league,
Speaker 1: and that's the biggest concern for them. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that matters as a playoff type of team, is
Speaker 1: that they're I think they're thirty feet and football outsiders
Speaker 1: and defense right now, and there's not a lot of
Speaker 1: solutions on paper. They should be better upfront, but it's
Speaker 1: a bad secondary playing young players. I think they're thirty
Speaker 1: thirty second and rushing offense too, so it's basically only
Speaker 1: their passing game that's working. Erica, do we have um
Speaker 1: more clarity on the intra inter situation? When to use
Speaker 1: inter inter is a prefixt used to form words that
Speaker 1: mean between or among groups. We see examples of this
Speaker 1: prefects to use many places. The athletic conference that governs
Speaker 1: high school sporting activities is called the inter High School
Speaker 1: Athletic Association. When to use intra, intra is a prefix
Speaker 1: used to form words that mean on the inside. Within contrast,
Speaker 1: and you immediately see the difference there's no clarity that
Speaker 1: that sounds like interconference is what you're looking for. Remember
Speaker 1: the old intercontinental pelt. Yeah, that that meant through multiple continents,
Speaker 1: it was not just one continent. But again, when the
Speaker 1: definitions are this unclear even to us, why even say it?
Speaker 1: Because too many listeners won't even know. Just pick one
Speaker 1: and say, gets a non conference conference. I like to
Speaker 1: go with a f C NFC showdown. Moving on, speaking
Speaker 1: of intra no intra conference battle, the Detroit Lions or
Speaker 1: took out Erica tamp Post He's New England Patriots on
Speaker 1: Sunday Night football. That had a hurt. Uh so they're
Speaker 1: feeling good at one and two. Now they traveled a
Speaker 1: big d to face the Cowboys. Greg, you wonder how
Speaker 1: Detroit can build off a win as momentous as Patricia
Speaker 1: taking out his old boss, and you under the Cowboys
Speaker 1: any good at all, especially offensively. Jason Garrett, to my mind,
Speaker 1: hasn't taken enough criticism. It's all on Lennahan or Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott's like this has been Jason Garrett's team and his offense. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: he's the one that's in charge and there it's easy
Speaker 1: to say that they're predictable. But they really are predictable.
Speaker 1: I read it. I read a good article about how
Speaker 1: they they always use the same play kind of as
Speaker 1: a first half drive starter, to the point where their
Speaker 1: radio announcers make jokes about it. It's where they, you know,
Speaker 1: have these two tight ends crossing over the over the
Speaker 1: middle on a bootleg from Dak Prescott and guess what
Speaker 1: they did it to start the second quarter last week.
Speaker 1: The Lions knew exactly what's coming, and you know they
Speaker 1: shut it down. It's I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: It's it's the talent, it's the ideas, it's everything. It's
Speaker 1: a coaching staff that I don't think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: able to overcome bad talent. I also cannot stand teams
Speaker 1: to try to tell you all off season we're fine
Speaker 1: at this position group like two off seasons. So when
Speaker 1: we heard about Trevor Simeon and Paxton Lynch, we're fine
Speaker 1: in Denver with our quarterback situation. We're perfectly capable. And
Speaker 1: you've poor James Palmer has to tell us seven thousand
Speaker 1: times on NFL Network about Trevor Simeon. This is the
Speaker 1: Cowboys this offseason telling you we don't need des Bryant.
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that, or in this case, poor Jane's
Speaker 1: later but telling us that this, you know, this wide
Speaker 1: receiver group we're going to develop from within. We're gonna
Speaker 1: be fine. And what is essentially the more passing heavy
Speaker 1: offense league right now that we've ever seen. You cannot
Speaker 1: survive if you can't throw the ball, and they cannot
Speaker 1: exist that way. It's unbelievable what they're what they have
Speaker 1: going on. I struggled a field for Jane's slater. I
Speaker 1: look at my life and then I go on her
Speaker 1: Instagram and I see what's going on there. It's the
Speaker 1: life of a successful, hyper successful sports broadcaster. And then
Speaker 1: just like the Dallas socialite scene, you're just flying. Oh
Speaker 1: there's boat parties with like sixty to seventy very attractive
Speaker 1: people on the boat. I would love to I'm at home,
Speaker 1: you know, essentially watching whatever my children want to watch
Speaker 1: on television. So I just put away the tissues for
Speaker 1: old Jane Bear. That's all Jane Bear. Jane Bear, he
Speaker 1: just made Uh No, my friend Jason Zummalt, his wife
Speaker 1: is Jane Jane Bear. So maybe I'm gonna stick with
Speaker 1: your stolen your friend's wife's nickname and and attach it
Speaker 1: to Jane Slater. These are these are to this, I'll
Speaker 1: pull it back. Disappointing starts, but the Lions could be
Speaker 1: fine here if they get to two and two and
Speaker 1: they got Kenny Golladay just popping. I love watching Kenny
Speaker 1: Golladay right now. That's a triplet right there. The wide
Speaker 1: receiver group. He might be their best receiver period. And
Speaker 1: if you ever get down in the dumps watching Blake
Speaker 1: Bortle's film Mechanics, wise, go watch Matthew Stafford for a while.
Speaker 1: He's got feet like a boxer, like Muhammad Ali. Moving on,
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills more inter conference battles, travel to lambeau
Speaker 1: Field to face the Green Bay Packers. Uh, you know
Speaker 1: what happened with the Bills last week? They shocked the
Speaker 1: NFL and of course the Minnesota Vikings whooping up on
Speaker 1: the bikes in Minneapolis. Now their reward is to stay
Speaker 1: in the NFC North and go to lambeau Field. That's
Speaker 1: a rough, rough turnaround. Is there any way right Mark
Speaker 1: that they have another upset in store? This is two
Speaker 1: times in a row that your inner being wants to
Speaker 1: throw the analysis to Greg. But then because of the
Speaker 1: schedule that we have to correct send it to me.
Speaker 1: I have to do it. Well, this isn't actually my comment.
Speaker 1: This comes from sports science major Gemma Olivia, who watched
Speaker 1: the Bills last week and was basically her notes were,
Speaker 1: breakout game for Josh Allen, the game we've been looking for.
Speaker 1: On the ground, he's hurtling players, he's running for that
Speaker 1: first touchdown. The defense doesn't allow the Vikings to cross
Speaker 1: the fifty yard line until the third quarter. I cannot
Speaker 1: wait to see this game and find out if this
Speaker 1: Bill's team, which everyone thought would be the essentially worst
Speaker 1: than last year's Browns team, how they respond and if
Speaker 1: they're going to turn a out to be a team
Speaker 1: that's more like an eight and eight type club that
Speaker 1: grits out some of these wins, or if they go
Speaker 1: back into hibernation totally s the bed and allow the
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers just to roll through them. Hey, how
Speaker 1: come you don't reach out to any mail co eds
Speaker 1: for these assignments? I have you three? Not really way,
Speaker 1: Mark Rowles, You're kind of like it was the first people,
Speaker 1: the first two people who who uh applied. Okay, not
Speaker 1: a lot of dudes on the old like Instagram messages.
Speaker 1: You know, I have you three in my ear all day.
Speaker 1: Check every single day. What's your Instagram handle? A bunch
Speaker 1: of dudes. There you go, Hollywood, look her up. Uh.
Speaker 1: Other thoughts on this game general, Yeah, all the credit
Speaker 1: in the world to the Bills for what they did
Speaker 1: last week, but they're not sneaking up on anybody this
Speaker 1: time around. And the Packers there was a little too
Speaker 1: much handwringing over their offense. Is Dan has pointed out
Speaker 1: it was drops and drops in a rainy, wet field
Speaker 1: condition too, so it's a little more excusable in that situation.
Speaker 1: I thought Rogers missed a couple of throws early, but
Speaker 1: looked really good down the stretch. I think this offense
Speaker 1: is just fine. I like that Josh Allen last week,
Speaker 1: not only either leading rusher on the season, which is problematic,
Speaker 1: but not only like when he leaps over Bar that
Speaker 1: you can pull that off, but he lets Bar know
Speaker 1: about it afterwards and kind of trash talks in his face.
Speaker 1: And I think that's the reason why the Bill's teammates
Speaker 1: seemed to love Josh Allen. He is pretty fun to watch.
Speaker 1: It reminds me a little bit of like a more
Speaker 1: even more athletic Blake Boardles. So I think there's gonna
Speaker 1: be some weeks where it all clicks. But the key
Speaker 1: to the team is just the defense flying around like
Speaker 1: you can't measure the type of effort and just the
Speaker 1: way they were flying to the ball in Minnesota. If
Speaker 1: you can do that week after week, you'll have a chance.
Speaker 1: It's not every week that Anthony Barr comes across a
Speaker 1: quarterback who's a better athlete than him. That's right, Uh,
Speaker 1: Packers and rushing. I know you like Aaron Jones West,
Speaker 1: they could be giving a little bit more help on
Speaker 1: the running game as well. I was watching this game
Speaker 1: the other day and they had a stat on the
Speaker 1: broadcast that their offense last year average a yard and
Speaker 1: a half more per play when Aaron Jones is on
Speaker 1: the field and not on the field, and he just
Speaker 1: plays at a different speed than Jamal Williams and Time Montgomery,
Speaker 1: who are better receivers. I don't think you want Aaron
Speaker 1: Jones to be a big part of your passing game,
Speaker 1: but he is a difference maker as a runner. I
Speaker 1: think they shouldn't mean the broadcast The award winning podcast
Speaker 1: hosted by Erica Tempo seeing Emma time. When I speak
Speaker 1: the word broadcast, it means in this situation, I'm waiting.
Speaker 1: I haven't gotten a text in like over six days
Speaker 1: threatening me to uh, I better retweet her podcast this morning,
Speaker 1: because I mean, this conversation is worth more than ten
Speaker 1: of those tweets. That's true. That's what Cig sayss like,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tweet it because no one's gonna really
Speaker 1: care about it. Moving on, the Houston Texans are oh
Speaker 1: and three joints, uh and you know they're they're they've
Speaker 1: been all in all the games, every loss has been
Speaker 1: been seven points or less, but oh and three and
Speaker 1: is oh and three and now they travel to Indianapolis
Speaker 1: to face the Colts. A lot of speaking of handwringing
Speaker 1: about uh Andrew Luck and whether this is just who
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck is now, which is a mediocre or worse quarterback.
Speaker 1: So that's a that's a subplot to watch, um West,
Speaker 1: why have Deshaun Watson and the Texans started on three?
Speaker 1: What's what's going on over there? Their offensive line is
Speaker 1: a mess. They get beat every week. Um and I
Speaker 1: think it takes to Saun Watson a little it seems
Speaker 1: like it takes him a little bit to get into
Speaker 1: the game. They're not really moving the ball until the
Speaker 1: second halves of games. Now they have Bruce Ellington out
Speaker 1: and he's been a pretty good slot receiver for for Watson,
Speaker 1: so I'm wondering who's going to be the third receiver
Speaker 1: and Lamar Miller you gotta do better than him as
Speaker 1: a start coming back. He's just not making play. They've
Speaker 1: been waiting for him for a couple of years. And
Speaker 1: that bad fumble against the Giants too. I see an
Speaker 1: offense that like last year they were. It was so
Speaker 1: immediately Rell you could see right away that the the
Speaker 1: offense with Watson was such a different operation. And they
Speaker 1: do not seem to have an identity, right, I mean
Speaker 1: they west mentioned it there by. According to pre profit
Speaker 1: buff Focus, their TAC two tackles are ranked dead last
Speaker 1: out of seventy seven and fourth to last out of
Speaker 1: seventies seven. So that makes life difficult. Yet they're playing
Speaker 1: a team they might not have to score that much
Speaker 1: to win. The best unit in this game, which is
Speaker 1: shocking to me, is the Colts defense, and so this
Speaker 1: is a low scoring type of game. I mean, Andrew
Speaker 1: Luck the last two weeks is thrown for a hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy seven yards in a hundred and forty one
Speaker 1: and the arms just not right. And I hope, I
Speaker 1: don't know what. I don't know if it's gonna get better,
Speaker 1: if there's a thought that, like, as he keeps playing
Speaker 1: and building it up, it's going to get better, because
Speaker 1: if it doesn't, it's so depressing because it's he's floating
Speaker 1: these balls in there, and you can tell on the
Speaker 1: deeper out routes there everything is a touch pass. And
Speaker 1: it's crazy that Andrew Luck of all people that that like,
Speaker 1: who would ever thought Andrew Luck? He's the most conservative
Speaker 1: QB in the league. So far this season, he ranks
Speaker 1: last in air yards per attempt, air distance per attempt,
Speaker 1: and he is when you look at this season that
Speaker 1: he's like blame Gabbert in terms of how conservative he
Speaker 1: is with the football, and it's like, whoever saw that coming?
Speaker 1: It's sort of um depressing. But for the moment, I
Speaker 1: think the biggest issue is surrounding talent and that's why
Speaker 1: they're only dialing up shallow passes. Their surrounding talent is
Speaker 1: absolutely atrocious. When you see him try when you see
Speaker 1: him push the bottom a bit. There are times where
Speaker 1: he needs a little arm strength right, and I wonder
Speaker 1: how much of that is not trusting his arm enough
Speaker 1: to let it go. I don't know how much of
Speaker 1: that is mental versus physical, But you're right there was
Speaker 1: a pass early in the third quarter where he floated
Speaker 1: it to the sideline to te why Hilton. It should
Speaker 1: have been picked off and not many quarterbacks have that issue.
Speaker 1: So I think for the moment, surrounding talents the biggest issue.
Speaker 1: But for the future, you had a guy who was
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick in the draft because of
Speaker 1: his a lot of it because of his arm talent,
Speaker 1: and now you wonder what's his value for the future
Speaker 1: if he's not And I think he could develop into
Speaker 1: like a Chad I mean even when don't say don't yeh,
Speaker 1: don't want to get a running game. By the way,
Speaker 1: this maybe the Colts offense that he's been and he's
Speaker 1: been wouldn't make many rosters in the NFL, and he's
Speaker 1: starting for the Cools. Let's move on to the New
Speaker 1: York Jets got a much needed break after their loss
Speaker 1: against the Browns a Thursday night football. They get UH
Speaker 1: ten days off and now they travel UH to Jacksonville
Speaker 1: to face the Jaguars, who were coming off a real
Speaker 1: bad loss at home against the banged up Titans team
Speaker 1: they lost nine six of the Jacks, you would think
Speaker 1: are gonna be looking to get right against the Jets,
Speaker 1: who um Greg One thing that I don't know if
Speaker 1: a lot was made of the Jets in general, because
Speaker 1: it was such a big story with the Browns, but
Speaker 1: that meltdown in the second half. The big the big
Speaker 1: part of it for me was they couldn't get anything
Speaker 1: going on offense with Donald and they were going off
Speaker 1: the field real quick. And the Jets are playing their
Speaker 1: third game in eleven days on a human night in Ohio,
Speaker 1: and I think that's as big a reason as any
Speaker 1: why they weren't able to get the stops down the stretch.
Speaker 1: Because I think this defense is good. I I do too,
Speaker 1: but they're still making up for a lack of a
Speaker 1: natural pass rush and all their pressure is coming from
Speaker 1: defensive backs in these creative blitz his bowls if he's
Speaker 1: going out, and he might be going out. According to
Speaker 1: Ralph Facciano, who's covered that team forever, there's talk around
Speaker 1: or at least that city forever that you there's talk
Speaker 1: around him that he could be on the hot seat
Speaker 1: right now, that that there's already a feed that shouldn't
Speaker 1: he be five wins season? I don't know that was.
Speaker 1: I don't going into a season with a rookie quarterback
Speaker 1: and then considering either fire him in the off season
Speaker 1: or pretty much let him have this season, Like wait
Speaker 1: till mid December, what are you gonna get him? Well,
Speaker 1: I get not put an interim coach almost never works out.
Speaker 1: What's the point? But at the same time, like if
Speaker 1: you really do and they they're so good things on
Speaker 1: defensive Darren, their defense is fine, but like, is this
Speaker 1: the guy you want attached to Sam Donald for the
Speaker 1: for the first five years. I don't think. I honestly
Speaker 1: don't think Todd Bowls is the problem right now. I
Speaker 1: guess like that was a bad loss and people are
Speaker 1: gonna get excited about that. But I'm not thinking to
Speaker 1: myself right now, Oh, if they could just fire Todd Bowls,
Speaker 1: this team is gonna be. So. I was hanging out
Speaker 1: with you yesterday, Dan, and you sounded pretty confident about
Speaker 1: this game. I think coming up with Jacksonville or you
Speaker 1: sound intrigued by it. You don't like trust Jack. The
Speaker 1: Jaguars like they could. They could roll over the Jets,
Speaker 1: or they can let me be in another rock fight.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you what's going on with the Jaguars offense.
Speaker 1: They come out against the Patriots and his big plays
Speaker 1: all over the field. This week, I wrote something about
Speaker 1: Kenny Bacaro, and I felt guilty for putting the statement
Speaker 1: in there. The Jaguars didn't have a single explosive play
Speaker 1: last week because they couldn't. Their quarterback was a mess.
Speaker 1: Their quarterback was tentative when he threw, he paused in
Speaker 1: his delivery, his footwork cut worse throughout the game. And
Speaker 1: this is who Blake Bortles is. One week he's on fire.
Speaker 1: The next week his delivery is so awful that it
Speaker 1: just holds the whole offense back. That's why, Like this
Speaker 1: isn't gambling advice, but no, no, no, I'm shocked how
Speaker 1: big an underdog the Jets were. If I was allowed
Speaker 1: to lock up like a team, you know, proving the
Speaker 1: desert wrong and you know at least keeping the game close,
Speaker 1: this would be I would lock that up. Because so
Speaker 1: to me, this is I don't think the Jets are
Speaker 1: as bad as people think. I don't, and I don't
Speaker 1: necessarily think the Jaguars are as good. What you just
Speaker 1: never know which bortles you're gonna get, So it could
Speaker 1: be a blowout, or it could be they can't move
Speaker 1: the ball defensive But how which Sam Donalds we're gonna get? Also,
Speaker 1: but that developing quarterback? This game, to me has seventeen
Speaker 1: fourteen all over it. I don't know what I'm okay
Speaker 1: about it. Moving on a f C East showdown time
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. They just want to respect. They said, we
Speaker 1: got the Dubs, now give us the respect. And as
Speaker 1: Mark said eloquently on Wednesday's show, well here's your chance.
Speaker 1: You're going to Foxborough, uh and go beat the Patriots,
Speaker 1: who got a lot of issues right now and they're
Speaker 1: trying to figure out who they are. I think the
Speaker 1: thing from Miami that that they have in their favor
Speaker 1: is a really developing secondary with Xavien Howard and Minca Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 1: You have a chance to play a banged up Patriots
Speaker 1: teams that's shorthanded. A running back does not have Julian Edelman.
Speaker 1: We don't know about Josh Gordon, and this is Miami's chance.
Speaker 1: They have not done well in in New England, not
Speaker 1: unlike many other teams, but I think they have like
Speaker 1: what one win in the past, like forty eons in
Speaker 1: New England. This is as close as they've had a
Speaker 1: chance to take out New England in years. And the
Speaker 1: point yesterday would show me something. Dolphins. If you want
Speaker 1: to be that team that we are to take seriously
Speaker 1: on this show and going forward, you have to do
Speaker 1: show up in this game. I think this is a
Speaker 1: team that has I'm not saying they have a coaching
Speaker 1: advantage against the Patriots, but I do think Adam Gates
Speaker 1: is a tough guy to prepare for, and on some levels,
Speaker 1: this offense is a tough team to prepare for because
Speaker 1: they spread it around. There are some things they do
Speaker 1: that out almost remind me of the Patriots because they
Speaker 1: have about seven or eight guys. Kenny Stills is probably
Speaker 1: the key one that you want to stop, but you're
Speaker 1: not really sure on any given play who could make
Speaker 1: the big play. And they're very balanced. I think they're
Speaker 1: a deep team without huge weaknesses. It's if you look
Speaker 1: on both sides of the roster, it's a lot of
Speaker 1: just above average position groups. Their offenses top eight, their
Speaker 1: defenses top eight, their special teams is top eight right
Speaker 1: now according to Football Outsiders, and their tackles are both
Speaker 1: playing really well protecting Ryan Tannell. It's been a great start.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's been a fluke. It's been with
Speaker 1: some weird games, but I don't think it's been a fluke.
Speaker 1: I wonder how much you know, when Albert Wilson signed
Speaker 1: for like eight million dollars a year, everyone was like,
Speaker 1: why did you just give Albert william million dollar? I
Speaker 1: wonder how much of it is that every quarterback guru
Speaker 1: needs to have a jet sweep, fly, sweet fake guy
Speaker 1: in their offense, and Albert Wilson's that guy. It seems
Speaker 1: like all the best play callers have this in their offense,
Speaker 1: and Albert Wilson's was signed to fill that role. And
Speaker 1: it came up huge against the Raiders next week. By
Speaker 1: the way, Minca Fitzpatrick, who, yeah, Jordy Nelson's big game
Speaker 1: came because Patrick I was wondering where you're going with this.
Speaker 1: You're you're hitting out at the Dolphins fans. Fitzpatrick, who's
Speaker 1: going to have a good career and he's gonna be
Speaker 1: a good player, and he's been good in many of
Speaker 1: the games this year. He got abused by Jordy Nelson. Overall, though,
Speaker 1: I think they've hit on this trap pick. I agree,
Speaker 1: greg Um. I just wanna I wanna throw this out
Speaker 1: there to you. You famously have never picked against the
Speaker 1: Patriots on this podcast, and I just want to let
Speaker 1: you know. And it doesn't matter what I think, because
Speaker 1: it's all about when you look in the mirror. But
Speaker 1: I I say, if you want to look in the
Speaker 1: mirror and lock up the Pats this week, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: judge you for it. Yeah, I am. I already I
Speaker 1: told jam Pot it's happening. It's rare that you get
Speaker 1: a chance to lock up the Patriots. It feels like,
Speaker 1: did you did you look in the mirror? What did
Speaker 1: you say? I saw one and two team with a
Speaker 1: lot of problems that on paper looked a lot worse
Speaker 1: than the Dolphins. So I don't feel bad about that
Speaker 1: at all. I do think they're gonna come out, They're
Speaker 1: gonna play their best. I don't like the fact that
Speaker 1: they're heavy favorites, considering like what's been going on. Are
Speaker 1: they in the lock it up? Zone. So you've been
Speaker 1: calibrating recently. Yeah, just at the edge, Just at the edge. Um,
Speaker 1: I looked in the mirror and I saw Greg peeking
Speaker 1: over my shoulder. I'm locking up the Patriots. Okay, me too.
Speaker 1: What's the point I I can I under it. What's
Speaker 1: the point of having the same ones as the other people?
Speaker 1: I thought Greg is a Patriots fan. There was something,
Speaker 1: there was a hook to that. You guys, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I want to lock up against the three. I
Speaker 1: thought that was a nice moment. Okay, good luck to
Speaker 1: the Pats. Everybody told me they're terrible. So I picked
Speaker 1: a terrible team going to get some undefeased. I'm not
Speaker 1: not in terrible. They're heavily favored. I mean they were
Speaker 1: right at that edge. I've I've figured out the lock
Speaker 1: zone is about right around the time. I'm not locking
Speaker 1: this team up. That's that feels cheap to me. So
Speaker 1: you're taking it back? Yeah, there you go, So taking
Speaker 1: that one back? Can I wear my Patriots in Mondola,
Speaker 1: Jersey this weekend? Like in spite? Or is that gonna
Speaker 1: be if if they lose then you would have to
Speaker 1: do a walk of shame down Free Country. Yeah? Um,
Speaker 1: and I should on the subjects of lock I did
Speaker 1: a bad job. I missed it. Um. I want to
Speaker 1: lock up the Texans to get off the snide and Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: I actually and this is on my sheet of paper
Speaker 1: and completely forgot to mention this, but I locked up
Speaker 1: the Falcons. Alright, we're all Do you know what else
Speaker 1: I saw when I looked into mer Are We were
Speaker 1: on this Patriots game, So I'm gonna throw out some Patriots.
Speaker 1: Sony Michelle cannot make a play, Philip oh No said,
Speaker 1: is not an NFL starting receiver. Chris Greggy. Chris Hogan
Speaker 1: needs of other people want to get open in order
Speaker 1: for him to get open. And and Sony Michelle, that
Speaker 1: was one of the worst games I've ever seen a
Speaker 1: running back play. You get him an open space and
Speaker 1: he can't make anyone miss hats getting Trey Flowers and
Speaker 1: Patrick chungback. Josh Gordon. I think Josh Gordon probably plays
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Speaker 1: to talk about the team that defeated Erica's beloved Patriots
Speaker 1: in the latest Super Bowl, the Philadelphia Eagles or two
Speaker 1: and one. Uh. They squeezed by the Colts in Week three,
Speaker 1: and now they travel to Tennessee to face the Titoons.
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz Chris westling back uh, his second game in
Speaker 1: the lineup. When you got a chance to look at
Speaker 1: that game tape, are you okay with how Wentz a look?
Speaker 1: He made some mistakes. He turned it over twice in
Speaker 1: his deep in his own territory. He missed some throws. Um,
Speaker 1: he's not quite as fast as he was. There was
Speaker 1: one play where he ran to the sideline and was
Speaker 1: forced to slide before he got to the sideline because
Speaker 1: he couldn't outrun the guy to the edge. That said,
Speaker 1: there were a couple of Houdini escape acts that are
Speaker 1: trademarked to him. Um. His arm was so much stronger
Speaker 1: than Andrew lux arm in that game. Um, I think
Speaker 1: Wentz is he's getting back to who he was. He's
Speaker 1: not quite there yet, but he's still one of the
Speaker 1: top twelve or fifteen quarterbacks in the NFL. When he
Speaker 1: was running out of the pocket, did he looked slower
Speaker 1: to you? Yes, he definitely did to me, lumbering almost
Speaker 1: running towards I thought, like the physical his ability to
Speaker 1: cut and make people like that, to me jumped off
Speaker 1: the screen. I was like, Wow, he's all when he
Speaker 1: was when he was on the r speed. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: the physical part. And I think they were and they
Speaker 1: talked about it this week that. I think they're really
Speaker 1: excited about that. I think the offensive issues that we've
Speaker 1: talked we talked about on Wednesday, that is more than
Speaker 1: just Carson Wentz. And I think that team is getting over.
Speaker 1: They're gonna get Elshan Jeffrey back. It sounds like j
Speaker 1: J I practice that that's the been the issue there.
Speaker 1: Their guys are out, and that's Jeffrey. I wouldn't imagine
Speaker 1: he's going to be immediately insulted, inserted and have the
Speaker 1: role that maybe he had it by the end of
Speaker 1: last year. They're gonna work him back. But as he
Speaker 1: gets more into the mix. That's gonna be a big,
Speaker 1: big addition for him. He's such an important part of it.
Speaker 1: And that Colts game happened in the driving rain as well.
Speaker 1: I would say this watching the Eagles, I don't know
Speaker 1: if it better if there's a team in the league
Speaker 1: that does a better job with its tight ends in
Speaker 1: the passing game. I mean Dallas Scott. Uh. They lost
Speaker 1: Roddy McCloud for the season today or at least put
Speaker 1: him on injured reserve, and that is a huge loss.
Speaker 1: He was He was an underrated, above average starting safety
Speaker 1: and they've they've had a lot of those injuries. But
Speaker 1: I do want to mention I, like my Fletcher coxsaid,
Speaker 1: defensive player of the Year for the season, was feeling
Speaker 1: pretty good. I do not like Marcus Mariotta in the
Speaker 1: spot he is going to start, but he still has
Speaker 1: issues with the elbow. Not that tightens a little bit
Speaker 1: of credit the NFC. NFC South had a chance to
Speaker 1: put them away without both starting tackles, without their quarterback,
Speaker 1: and now Jack Conklin's participating in full practices. The right
Speaker 1: tackle Tarylor wands back UH Taiwan Taylor is probably should
Speaker 1: get some more snaps now that Richard Matthews has requested
Speaker 1: his release, so we're gonna see some players. That was
Speaker 1: an odd, an odd scenario, I thought after Vonte Davis,
Speaker 1: nothing is really odd to me. But it's very odd.
Speaker 1: It's very similar. He's literally signed similar He signed to
Speaker 1: it in the middle of a game now, But he
Speaker 1: signed a contral like a week three or four weeks ago.
Speaker 1: And he had a quote just two weeks ago saying,
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm coming back from injury. Whatever role
Speaker 1: they want me to use me in, I'm I'm fine
Speaker 1: with that. And then three weeks in the season he says,
Speaker 1: you're not using me enough. Please cut me. Let's move on.
Speaker 1: A NFC West battle the Seattle Seahawks one and two.
Speaker 1: They got it done against Dallas last week after back
Speaker 1: to back lusses to start the season. They travel ter Arizona. Uh,
Speaker 1: what's the name of their stadium? Though? What are people
Speaker 1: call the farm? Farm? Farm? To face a car those
Speaker 1: offense that has been sent to the farm if you
Speaker 1: catch why is he called the farm? I know, uh yeah,
Speaker 1: but we put that offense out the pasture here it
Speaker 1: is greg The Cardinals are last in total offense, scoring, rushing, passing,
Speaker 1: third down turnovers, big plays, yards were play. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: But Josh Rosen is here to save the day? Is he?
Speaker 1: It's good that he's had practice playing behind a bad
Speaker 1: offensive line. That was the case that U. C. L A.
Speaker 1: And I think for the most party through pretty well
Speaker 1: against pressure. But this is this is an uphill battle.
Speaker 1: I think he's in the worst position of any of
Speaker 1: the rookie quarterbacks that that have to start. You just hope,
Speaker 1: you hope Larry Fitzgerald is healthy and right because he
Speaker 1: hasn't quite looked like himself yet this year. And David
Speaker 1: Johnson in the running game. You just hope that they
Speaker 1: can somehow create an offensive round Rosen that everyone else
Speaker 1: gets better. Isn't that he's not enough to save it?
Speaker 1: Isn't it a harsh indictment on this offensive coaching staff
Speaker 1: that David Johnson is what he is after three weeks
Speaker 1: is And that Chase Edmonds, their backup running back, has
Speaker 1: more receptions than their number three receiver. That Christian Kirk,
Speaker 1: their rookie who was built as a slot receiver, is
Speaker 1: leading the team at ten point one yards per reception.
Speaker 1: There is no big play element in this offense, and
Speaker 1: this is a tough matchup the Seahawks defense. They've had
Speaker 1: a pretty good matchups, but for the most part, their
Speaker 1: numbers are great, and Bradley McDougald has been on fire,
Speaker 1: so him and Errol Thomas the best safety combo in
Speaker 1: the league. Bobby Wagner was incredible last week. Frank Clark's
Speaker 1: playing as well as he ever. It's like the Seahawks
Speaker 1: defense isn't that far off of what you would want.
Speaker 1: They they're fine, they can win this game on their own.
Speaker 1: And suddenly there two and two H Gardens are a
Speaker 1: bit of a mess right now. Mark Sessler, you'd have
Speaker 1: you have something you'd like to share with the group
Speaker 1: in the audience. Oh well, occasionally we you know, we
Speaker 1: banned phrases on this show, and anyone is is always
Speaker 1: invited to do it. But um, I've run into one
Speaker 1: that I am absolutely done with. Really, I am absolutely
Speaker 1: done with this phrase. And this came from that, and
Speaker 1: I listen, I brought this up on myself, but that
Speaker 1: tweet about drinking bleach of Josh Gordon wound up with
Speaker 1: a hand team. It did not also quote retweeting I
Speaker 1: didn't need that at all, I didn't need that at all.
Speaker 1: But one thing that I noticed, and you ever have,
Speaker 1: like you have like the the female friend that's constantly
Speaker 1: getting like killed, like getting millions of messages on Facebook
Speaker 1: or in general, and she'll complain rightly, so that like
Speaker 1: when eighty when a hundred guys write you of them
Speaker 1: are hideously dumb and say the same stupid thing they
Speaker 1: have no and then maybe one or two people shining.
Speaker 1: It was the same thing with with this mostly um
Speaker 1: a group of people coming from western, northern, eastern and
Speaker 1: southern Massachusetts. After this tweet over and over, there are
Speaker 1: maybe one or two creative responses, but then I would
Speaker 1: say eight hundred to nine hundred were simply this aged. Well, oh,
Speaker 1: that's a good one to ban that phrase. He's out.
Speaker 1: I think we need the cannona. We gotta fired out
Speaker 1: of the lexicon. I'm with you. It's gone. Sometimes people
Speaker 1: use it on ironically too. I've gotten that on Twitter,
Speaker 1: right if you are kind of old article that actually
Speaker 1: worked out and they said it. But even that at home,
Speaker 1: it's no. If you are someone that employs this typically
Speaker 1: on Twitter, you need to check yourself at the door.
Speaker 1: At the same time, there has been a bit of
Speaker 1: an alteration with a previously banned phrase. Can I just
Speaker 1: before you move on, since you were in that realm,
Speaker 1: let me just throw out there the idea of banning
Speaker 1: uh quote retweeting something from somebody and then just writing
Speaker 1: this period. Yeah, just hammer the retweet right. You're adding nothing.
Speaker 1: You are adding nothing that's in that's that's in this shist.
Speaker 1: You anti dispire it. Add something if you're in a retweet, right.
Speaker 1: That thing is we're cleaning up social media. That thing
Speaker 1: is out here is one um that I am. As
Speaker 1: soon as the death siren ends, I am unblocking this
Speaker 1: phrase until October twelve, until twelve, living your best life.
Speaker 1: Go do it, Go enjoy yourself. This is so enjoy
Speaker 1: it if you want to use it, Erica, you can
Speaker 1: use it all you want. Why why are you? Why
Speaker 1: are you standing down on this? I don't why only
Speaker 1: for two weeks? In my mind? In my mind, it
Speaker 1: is no. I'm allowing people to you take something away,
Speaker 1: find out if you really like it or not use
Speaker 1: it liberally if you were before, and then we're going
Speaker 1: to ban it again, and you I think they'll they'll
Speaker 1: come around to agree, because I've gotten a lot of
Speaker 1: flak for living your best life. Well, let's let's be real,
Speaker 1: this has not been uh the brightest moment for the
Speaker 1: Banned word committee. This whole best There is no committe
Speaker 1: because since since you banned it, you've been using people
Speaker 1: have been using it more, and now you're unbanning it.
Speaker 1: This is like NFL like rules changing behavior with It's
Speaker 1: got a lot of criticism. One thing that you said
Speaker 1: it is incorrect. There is no committee. I am the committee.
Speaker 1: Well you said anyone is free to do. You can
Speaker 1: operate as a one man committee. To Louis the Sun King,
Speaker 1: you guys just that I think I posted it literally
Speaker 1: in my Instagram story last night and Mark took a
Speaker 1: screenshot and send it to me and he said, you
Speaker 1: truly are living your best life. The what do is you? Please?
Speaker 1: The The only issue is from you know, how people
Speaker 1: see it, Mark, how people see it as you kind
Speaker 1: of flip flopping a little bit, and that just here,
Speaker 1: here's this look that is something that you have an
Speaker 1: issue with. I'm trying how I'm saying what what is
Speaker 1: the public see? I think everyone around this table has
Speaker 1: that I do not care about the public at all.
Speaker 1: One word optics right, it's pretty rare. You're kissing cousin
Speaker 1: buddy over there, raising eyebrows. I would just say one thing.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna do a hammer, drop drop the hammer,
Speaker 1: don't pick it up. I am the committee. The Cleveland
Speaker 1: Browns Mark Sessler won one and one big dramatic win
Speaker 1: on Thursday Night football. They're the new America's sweetheart and
Speaker 1: now they get a chance. It's on the road, but
Speaker 1: they get a winless Oakland Raiders team. Uh, Mark, this
Speaker 1: is a great spot, Baker Mayfield making his first start
Speaker 1: against the mediocre team. But you really want to get
Speaker 1: some momentum rolling on the season, go get another w.
Speaker 1: Double it up, right, I think so, because you can't
Speaker 1: follow up what just happened with a raging dud against
Speaker 1: a team that cannot rush the passer. And my one
Speaker 1: thing watching all of these Raiders games under Gruden is
Speaker 1: I see a team that does some nice stuff throughout
Speaker 1: but cannot finish. They cannot find a way to close
Speaker 1: it out in the fourth quarter of all three games. Right,
Speaker 1: They could not handle it against the Broncos. They mean,
Speaker 1: the Rams took them out late in that first game.
Speaker 1: But the Miami game to this team cannot figure out
Speaker 1: how to how to seal the deal in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: And I really think this is a nice matchup on
Speaker 1: paper for Baker Mayfield against the defense that cannot get
Speaker 1: to the quarterback. Three nice things about the Oakland Raiders.
Speaker 1: They score on the opening drive every week. Jared Cook
Speaker 1: is playing like a Pro Bowl tight end. And Leon
Speaker 1: Hall was one of the afterthought pick cups of the season.
Speaker 1: That guy was written off as like done for his career,
Speaker 1: and now he's their best defensive back. But Baker Mayfield,
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a new Tomorrow. Hope dancing and
Speaker 1: shoulder pads turn your whole franchise around. We know the
Speaker 1: range of possibilities because we've seen them. We've seen Brett
Speaker 1: Farve take over for Don Mikowski and then turn Green
Speaker 1: Bay from what Buffalo is now, which is what they
Speaker 1: were in the late eighties early nineties, a Siberia of
Speaker 1: the NFL into Oh, we're going to celebrate their history again.
Speaker 1: We've seen Peyton Manning come to the Colts and as
Speaker 1: Dave Lederman said, change the skyline. These are the range
Speaker 1: of possibilities for Cleveland. I also, I hope they're not
Speaker 1: I hope they're not sucking Browns fans in because tortured franchises.
Speaker 1: We talked about this yesterday too, Mark Sometimes tortured franchises,
Speaker 1: they're really good at sucking you in, right, But Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield he does it because what he did in that
Speaker 1: first game against the Jets was totally consistent with what
Speaker 1: we saw in the preseason and what we saw from
Speaker 1: him in college, and just the confidence that his ability.
Speaker 1: We joke about the cutting the cake and talking, but
Speaker 1: he can do a lot of things at once. While
Speaker 1: defenders are running after him. He's common enough during the
Speaker 1: game to be motioning to his receiver looks and what
Speaker 1: have we said all along? He's got to be a ghostbuster? Well,
Speaker 1: what's going on this week? No mention of Hugh Jackson's job,
Speaker 1: No mention of Josh Gordon, no mention of Tyrod Taylor
Speaker 1: in a quarterback controversy. He's already busting ghosts. This is
Speaker 1: and he's going to a team to face the defense
Speaker 1: in Oakland that's only given up seventeen points in the
Speaker 1: first half of games this year, and you've pretty much
Speaker 1: shut people down. And the thing that I hate is
Speaker 1: that they don't build a big lead it's always not
Speaker 1: as big a lead as possible. And it's because of
Speaker 1: one philosophy that gruten has that is very old school
Speaker 1: that wasn't picked on over the summer, and is that
Speaker 1: he believes in completions, like if you read if you
Speaker 1: read his books, that he believes completions are the most
Speaker 1: important stat and that's why you see these twelve fourteen
Speaker 1: play drives. And I just that that's not how the
Speaker 1: NFL works right now, Like defenses are happy to let
Speaker 1: you go on ten twelve fourteen play drives because they
Speaker 1: don't think you're gonna be able to finish it off.
Speaker 1: And that's what we see. They moved the ball down
Speaker 1: the field and then they end up kicking a field
Speaker 1: goal and then they don't score that many points and
Speaker 1: real quick like, isn't that first drive because Gruden is
Speaker 1: the script or he scripps that first drive and then
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen again. Do we all have the browns
Speaker 1: at the scam? I do. I was really thinking about
Speaker 1: locking it up because this is a great matchup for
Speaker 1: their defense, which is turning some balls. Turn They have
Speaker 1: eleven turnovers already, almost matching Lesson. I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a close game. Do we all have the Browns
Speaker 1: in this game? I am feet first diving into the
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield hype train. Yeah we do. That's never happened
Speaker 1: on this podcast before. Now because now are really kissing
Speaker 1: a four across the brown to win a game. Moving on,
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever picked him to win a
Speaker 1: game on the honest forty Niners. A sad situation there.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo officially diagnosed on Monday with a torn a
Speaker 1: c L and maybe some m c L damage, which
Speaker 1: was like with Carson Wentz that that's a kind of
Speaker 1: a a real hardcore rehab. It's gonna take some time.
Speaker 1: We'll see him again next September. Uh, But for now,
Speaker 1: the Niners kind of have to put a halt on
Speaker 1: all that optimism. They travel to l A to face
Speaker 1: the Chargers, who are off to a Charger esque start.
Speaker 1: Some good things, some bad things, and ultimately they're putting
Speaker 1: themselves in a hole at one and two. Here's a chance, though,
Speaker 1: h West, for them to get a w against the
Speaker 1: Niners team, which I'm sure isn't a bit of shock
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, I could not look in the mirror
Speaker 1: and lock this game up. Um. I saw that Greg
Speaker 1: tweeted that he's talking himself into c J. Bethard not
Speaker 1: being a total disaster, and I agree with that. I've
Speaker 1: I've had that talk with myself that CJ. Be beth
Speaker 1: beth was drafted in the third round for a reason
Speaker 1: that Kyle Jnham believes he shares a lot of qualities
Speaker 1: to Kirk Cousins and maybe this guy. It was hard
Speaker 1: to ask a backup to come in last year behind
Speaker 1: Brian Hoyerie and moving offense that didn't have much going
Speaker 1: for it at the time. It has a little bit
Speaker 1: more ing for it now. I'm not giving up on
Speaker 1: c J. Bethard making the watchable, but the Chargers are
Speaker 1: so much better and and it starts with that offense
Speaker 1: and a guy like Mike Williams who had a great
Speaker 1: game and it's already to me he's displaced Tyrelle Williams
Speaker 1: and Travis Benjamin is the number two option in that
Speaker 1: passing game. Yeah, the problem with the forty Niners is
Speaker 1: they don't have a defense. So it's one thing to
Speaker 1: have a quarterback like Bethard who does have a good
Speaker 1: running game. Right now, they're second in the league and running,
Speaker 1: but that they're not stopping anyone. They their lost Richard Sherman,
Speaker 1: who was playing well. They had already benched the Kello Witherspoon,
Speaker 1: who they talked up all off season as like their
Speaker 1: number one cornerback and they had already benched him. They're
Speaker 1: missing too, quis Gy Tart. They're just they're one of
Speaker 1: the worst defenses in the league. So that combined with
Speaker 1: Bethard stuff. Moving on, the New Orleans Saints uh overtime
Speaker 1: win over the Falcons where that offense really uh bawled out,
Speaker 1: as they say, just sent a message that was humorous.
Speaker 1: Oh how about we keep our focus on the show,
Speaker 1: Ricky Hollywood, Was it about another podcast? No, it's about
Speaker 1: a forty quarterback, the one who's not injured. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: um oh beat hard something about that. That's too. I
Speaker 1: always I'm predicting these things that you and some Walt
Speaker 1: would have a Star Wars podcast, And now that you
Speaker 1: and Ricky Hollywood are making we were going we were
Speaker 1: going to attempt to keep that side podcast under wraps
Speaker 1: for now, but that it is no longer under wraps.
Speaker 1: Apologies Jason. In fairness to Erica, though like it's hard
Speaker 1: for her to focus on a sport she doesn't really
Speaker 1: care that much about. For like an hour stranger, I
Speaker 1: like football a lot. The Saints so convincing two and one,
Speaker 1: travel to the metal Lands Hullulajimon who looked much better
Speaker 1: on offense, uh including Eli who played very well against
Speaker 1: the Texans in a seven twenty to win. So the
Speaker 1: Giants got off the mat after the own to start.
Speaker 1: This to me is a toss up game, Greg, How
Speaker 1: do you feel about it? I wouldn't call it a
Speaker 1: toss up game because the Saints have one of the
Speaker 1: best quarterbacks in the league and one of the better
Speaker 1: just passing attacks in the league. So I but I
Speaker 1: think they're on the road. Is a different guy than
Speaker 1: in the Dome at the numbers. That's true, that's true.
Speaker 1: And the Giants defense has been under the radar playing
Speaker 1: pretty well. James Betcher's can't come from Arizona. Not maybe
Speaker 1: as many name players playing well because Olivia Vernon is
Speaker 1: not even healthy. But they've been tough. But I still
Speaker 1: don't totally trust them. Then again, the Saints, and now
Speaker 1: you're talking me into it. The Saints defense has been ridiculous.
Speaker 1: They're giving up you think is gonna be amazing. So
Speaker 1: now they they've been giving up almost twelve yards per
Speaker 1: attempt this year. Ken Crawley, p J. Williams, their cornerbacks
Speaker 1: who played pretty well last year, I've turned into pumpkins
Speaker 1: and people are just attacking anyone not named Mark Marshall,
Speaker 1: Laddmore and Marshall. Latimore kind of hasn't been as dominant
Speaker 1: this year as he was a year ago. This Giant's defense,
Speaker 1: which I think has been a snooze fest essentially since
Speaker 1: that Super Bowl win, the last one. I think they
Speaker 1: played well last week Snacks Harrison carry win. These guys
Speaker 1: um are doing a nice job for the Giants. And
Speaker 1: the one thing about the New York team to me
Speaker 1: like they feel like they're not going to make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: To me, they're not a playoff team, but they are
Speaker 1: going to screw some teams seasons up down the stretch
Speaker 1: by winning some of these weird games. I think Sequon
Speaker 1: Barkley is the most interesting player I watched on game
Speaker 1: pass last week. He is, and he's wearing number twenty six.
Speaker 1: Lamar Lamar Miller was wearing twenty six in that game,
Speaker 1: and the difference between the two them in. The ability
Speaker 1: to make defenders miss was striking. I loved what I
Speaker 1: saw from the Giants offense. I thought Eli played really well.
Speaker 1: There was one throw off one ft early in the
Speaker 1: game where he nailed a strike to Sterling Shepherd about
Speaker 1: twenty yard downfield. I haven't seen Eli make that playing years.
Speaker 1: Uh and then he put that touchdown right on Red
Speaker 1: red Ellison's hands. But I like this is a breakout
Speaker 1: game for the Giants offense. He does hurt to miss.
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram liked might go. Evan Ingram's out probably about
Speaker 1: two weeks at least with the m c L. Sprain
Speaker 1: Greg when we were watching in real time, you thought
Speaker 1: it might be An a c L. So they're they're
Speaker 1: thrilled that Ingram season is not over. I think Sterling Shepard,
Speaker 1: who's still kind of under the radar, I think he's
Speaker 1: a stud. I think he could end up becoming an
Speaker 1: even bigger part of this offense with Ingram out and Odell, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's due for one of those crazy ass O'Dell games.
Speaker 1: One thing on the Saints, I will not forge. I
Speaker 1: will not forgive Sean Payton if he takes Alvin Kamara
Speaker 1: away from us by messing around on punt returns. In
Speaker 1: the same game, you're giving him twenty I've never seen
Speaker 1: a running back with twenty targets. He's third in the
Speaker 1: league I think in receptions, and he's in the top
Speaker 1: ten and receiving yards fun to watch. Do not take
Speaker 1: him away from most with this punt returned. I do love, though,
Speaker 1: that Sean Payton is turning Taysom Hill into more of
Speaker 1: a thing each and every week. At to quote Michael
Speaker 1: Thomas on Twitter, Taysom Hill is a created player. I
Speaker 1: have never seen something like Tasom out. They're taking Drew
Speaker 1: Brees off the field on Some of the biggest snaps
Speaker 1: of this sea is in this guy's running, he's returning punts.
Speaker 1: It's like every time he touches the ball, Taysom Hills
Speaker 1: a little bit of magic. You know what, Ricky scratch
Speaker 1: my lock? Oh wow, I'm starting to feel it again.
Speaker 1: The New York Guys Board of Jersey. Get on the
Speaker 1: guarded State Parkway and then I get off an exit one,
Speaker 1: six three, put me on route seventeen and then take
Speaker 1: me right into the meadow lands. I'm gonna look it up,
Speaker 1: freaking blue. What are great locks in history. What on earth? Right?
Speaker 1: That was so much better than your Texas lock. I'm
Speaker 1: like how you avoided the Tapanzee bridge on that right
Speaker 1: Back into the different direction, bro, I'm convinced Dan likes
Speaker 1: the Giants now more than the like last you are
Speaker 1: like a fan because last week you're like, I don't
Speaker 1: even want to watch the Giants. This week you watch
Speaker 1: the Giants, Greg, I need to take a week off.
Speaker 1: But now you're back in. You know, you know, I've
Speaker 1: been open about this. I don't want to be here,
Speaker 1: I mean California by by my job. I want to
Speaker 1: be on the East Coast. The Giants are one of
Speaker 1: those things that, oh, that's that's where I come from.
Speaker 1: So I have a fondest stone, if you will. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have a fondness for Big Blue that I did
Speaker 1: not have when I moved to New York. State of mind.
Speaker 1: As Billy Joel would say about that's a good song
Speaker 1: and the Billy Joel stuff, everybody's gotta calm down about
Speaker 1: who is even talking about I don't think I love that.
Speaker 1: Never got it. I never got it. I like him
Speaker 1: a lot, but how often have I ever mentioned Billy Joel?
Speaker 1: It's not about you. Just like Billy Joel is always
Speaker 1: at the tip of everyone's tongue. He is just like,
Speaker 1: come on, you'll see at the tip of your tears
Speaker 1: right now. But he is in New York. He's like
Speaker 1: he might as well at Madison Square. I'm with I'm
Speaker 1: with Asily off the ground but down I don't have
Speaker 1: the music podcast on. You know you know about Billy
Speaker 1: Joel more than I do. Why are you getting upset?
Speaker 1: I'm not. I just it's not on a tip of
Speaker 1: my tongue like I I talk about Billy Joel maybe
Speaker 1: once so bad. I'm just saying, like, maybe my issue.
Speaker 1: Why do you talk about him on your throwback every
Speaker 1: Friday night? It's like, yes, but there is bring him
Speaker 1: up every Thursday. Oh yes we do, yes we uh
Speaker 1: and equipment. It's another job. It's a it's it's a
Speaker 1: thing with Billy Joel in that region. I will give
Speaker 1: it to you because I don't not informed. If you
Speaker 1: ever want to have me on to discuss the first
Speaker 1: three Star Wars, I'll be happy. But I've never been
Speaker 1: asked to be on the throwback. Of course, of course
Speaker 1: you will be on you In fairness, we've never had
Speaker 1: a guest. Then I don't think in West Fanny Project,
Speaker 1: I am music. We can't help come on. And by
Speaker 1: the way, I you know, talking with toxicity that you're
Speaker 1: bringing knows more about Dan and bobcast drone music combined
Speaker 1: has never been And by the way, West, not to
Speaker 1: add another wrinkle to this, but Dan yesterday invited me
Speaker 1: back on the show to do a top ten sort
Speaker 1: of banger list from the right. Maybe you can talk
Speaker 1: about Billy Joel. This is really taking a turn West.
Speaker 1: I'd love to have you have a throwback. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about an album. All right, let's let's talk. Let's take
Speaker 1: this offline. Because West gave up on music by the nineties,
Speaker 1: how about West? Some spin doctors an the Baltimore Ravens. Uh,
Speaker 1: they are two and one. They are feeling good about themselves.
Speaker 1: I like this Ravens team. I think they're gonna be
Speaker 1: involved in January. They traveling to Pittsburgh to face the Steelers,
Speaker 1: who held off the Bucks on Monday night. A short
Speaker 1: week mark two of your favorite teams in the league.
Speaker 1: Which team do you like more? Right now? In terms
Speaker 1: of I just like them, you hate both of them.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about which team two strikes you as a
Speaker 1: better team at this I think the Steelers could beat
Speaker 1: any team in the league in the right week. But
Speaker 1: I'll say something about the Ravens nice. For the first
Speaker 1: time in a long time, this is the most watchable
Speaker 1: Ravens offense I have seen since I believe since I've
Speaker 1: worked year. Outside of that January Super Bowl run, they
Speaker 1: are going to hang around in every single gare in
Speaker 1: January Super Bowl. Well that was a disgusting Super Bowl week.
Speaker 1: But I will tell you, I think this team is
Speaker 1: as fun to watch as they've been in a long
Speaker 1: long time to me, and they are going to screw
Speaker 1: some screw with some teams down the stretch. They're they're
Speaker 1: a playoff team. I mean they might be. There's why
Speaker 1: they can't be at a one seed in the a
Speaker 1: f C. I think the one seed in the not
Speaker 1: saying they will, I think there could be seven or
Speaker 1: eight teams that have a chance of that, and they're
Speaker 1: They're near the top of the list for me, YO
Speaker 1: might be going to the Pro Bowl. Johnny Brown, Johnny
Speaker 1: Brown's back, Johnny Brown all about that sickle cell. Johnny
Speaker 1: Brown is a real playmaker on that Ravens offense, and
Speaker 1: he's been he's been a big piece for them Top
Speaker 1: ten Afterthought acquisitions. He's number five on the list this year.
Speaker 1: I mean the worst, the worst group in this game.
Speaker 1: The biggest weakness is the Steelers defense. They're poorly coached.
Speaker 1: They they they missed their assigned well, well, when you
Speaker 1: have more than when you have ten more penalties than
Speaker 1: any team in the league, and then then on top
Speaker 1: of that, your secondary doesn't seem to know who to
Speaker 1: cover in terms of miscommunication, maybe they button it up.
Speaker 1: The Patriots have these sorts thought. Joe Hayden helped them
Speaker 1: a little bit absolutely last week. He did. But there
Speaker 1: are guys just kind of running free from mistakes in
Speaker 1: terms of the play calls instead of just they're getting
Speaker 1: beat physically. So when that happens like week after week,
Speaker 1: basically has every week the season, that's a problem. I
Speaker 1: think they missed David the Castro on their offensive line too.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of pressure coming up in past
Speaker 1: weeks right up the middle against Big Ben. Uh. Finally,
Speaker 1: Monday night Football, so that's the Sunday night game. In
Speaker 1: that game, we should we should put the Sunday Neither
Speaker 1: is Ravens I mean, that's a big I'm going Ravens.
Speaker 1: I'm going to Ravens and that's tough. That's how order
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. But I think they're they're gonna do it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I see this as a coin flip game. I like
Speaker 1: both of these teams. I'm going Pittsburgh because they're playing
Speaker 1: at home. I'm going Ravens. It's going Johan and Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown's like head exploding at halftime. If j Joe Smith
Speaker 1: Schuster is still leading by a hundred and fifty yards
Speaker 1: this season, Uh, justin uh Tucker against Chris Boswell. I
Speaker 1: got the Ravens. They had some special teams issues Monday
Speaker 1: Night Football. The Kansas City Chiefs, the high flying Kansas
Speaker 1: City Chiefs three and oh. They've scored thirty eight, forty
Speaker 1: two and thirty eight and their first three conquests and
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is the runaway early leader for m VP.
Speaker 1: But it's too early to get excited about that. But
Speaker 1: if you're a Chiefs fan, you are loving life. And
Speaker 1: now you travel to Mile High to face the Broncos.
Speaker 1: The Broncos West just got by the Raiders barely in
Speaker 1: Week two. Uh, they look good in Week one against
Speaker 1: the Seahawks not so good last week at Baltimore. Uh,
Speaker 1: the Chief's gonna keep rolling here on the road. I
Speaker 1: think that's the that would be the consensus opinion. I
Speaker 1: don't in a rivalry like this, I'm not just gonna
Speaker 1: hand the Chiefs to win, and I am gonna have
Speaker 1: m v P ranks next week. It's not too early, baby,
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure that Patrick Mahomes is gonna be
Speaker 1: even the number one player from his team on on
Speaker 1: my mb people kill is one of the best players
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and everything that offense does is based
Speaker 1: on him making happen. To your point, I don't think
Speaker 1: Mahomes had a particularly stand out game last week. I
Speaker 1: think he did his job and he played well. Of
Speaker 1: the three games, I think it was his worst game
Speaker 1: by far. It was, and it was still solid. But
Speaker 1: it's amazing that you can put up that many points
Speaker 1: without your quarterback needing to do a crazy amount. I mean,
Speaker 1: it just shows what what they're doing on offense and
Speaker 1: the talent that they have. This does feel like kind
Speaker 1: of the game, not that the Chiefs come back to Earth,
Speaker 1: but that the Broncos are right in it in the
Speaker 1: second half because this Chief's defense is terrible. Eric Barry
Speaker 1: not playing this year has killed them. He has not practiced.
Speaker 1: That's it's a pretty under under the radar story considering
Speaker 1: he's like there, he's been their best player for so long,
Speaker 1: but he hasn't played in a year and a half.
Speaker 1: Now de Ford, who had been playing really well, looks
Speaker 1: like he might miss this game. So Anthony Hitchins they
Speaker 1: gave a ton of money to, has been really struggling.
Speaker 1: Like I think case Keendom could could go up and
Speaker 1: down the field. He's got the and be matching past
Speaker 1: in this game. Is this the best Emmanuel Sandards we've
Speaker 1: ever seen? I don't. I don't want to go that
Speaker 1: far because he was like pro bowl level in its
Speaker 1: pretty good. Just looks really like completely re energized. Yeah, absolutely. Uh,
Speaker 1: there you go. There's the preview of week four. Here
Speaker 1: the Billy Joel songs that are fine, quick quick recap
Speaker 1: piano man, it's that is a great song. Uh, the
Speaker 1: only the Good Die Young. I like that song moving out,
Speaker 1: Anthony song not bad, the Longest Time moving Okay? Uh
Speaker 1: do you even know these songs? Like? Are you aware
Speaker 1: of all these things? Okay? I like the ones about
Speaker 1: like the old hometown and stuff. Coming back from the
Speaker 1: Ballad of Billy the Kid is a great song. It's
Speaker 1: faked by the Hollywood New York state of mind. It's like,
Speaker 1: come on, uh, every game we just previewed, Captain Jack. Please,
Speaker 1: if I have to hear that song one more time,
Speaker 1: almost jay Z and Alicia Keys, it probably does. I
Speaker 1: will see a bigger one. Right If your argument is
Speaker 1: that he for a long period of time, all his
Speaker 1: hits became so overplayed that it was almost like Brown
Speaker 1: Eyed Girl by Van Morrison, where it's on every freaking
Speaker 1: mix tape you've ever made for a girl, over received
Speaker 1: from a girl. Please look if you may, if you
Speaker 1: put Billy Joel on a mixtape, that's on you know,
Speaker 1: I'm saying Van Morrison's Brown Eyed Girl like that wrong way.
Speaker 1: You don't know how many mixtapes she made for girls.
Speaker 1: It's always on every mixtape. Every Brown Eyed Girl is
Speaker 1: like Van Morrison songs. And that's the thing I grew
Speaker 1: up thinking that was like his song. It's like he
Speaker 1: doesn't even it isn't even in the top one hundred
Speaker 1: for me. Every game we previewed just now we will
Speaker 1: recap on Sunday night, well except for Monday Night with
Speaker 1: a symbolic Billy Jewel song attached to you like that Joel,
Speaker 1: Billy Joel for the next six years. Right now, I
Speaker 1: need like a Greg Likes rap segment right now. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying this is all Billy Joel deserves. He's
Speaker 1: got a lot of you. Continue to mention him, Greg, Yeah,
Speaker 1: on the tip of your tongue. The Monday night game
Speaker 1: that we just talked about will be on our Tuesday
Speaker 1: Twitter show, and again we implore you to check that
Speaker 1: out Tuesday's one thirty Pacific, four thirty Eastern. But that
Speaker 1: is it for now. This is Dan hands as signing
Speaker 1: not for me. What's up? I hit the wrong button?
Speaker 1: Breaking news? Still learning how to run the control room.
Speaker 1: Dan hands is signing off for the Quiet Storm, the Mailman,
Speaker 1: the Old Boss, Ricky Hollywood behind the Glass. I will
Speaker 1: admit that when I was nine, we didn't start the fire.
Speaker 1: Seemed like a trenchant entry in his catalog. I don't
Speaker 1: think that anymore until Sunday