Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. I'll have side podcasts except
Speaker 1: for what's Welcome to another edition of the Around the
Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis and I've joined
Speaker 1: in a room build with heroes Mark Sessler, Chris Westling,
Speaker 1: and Greg Rosenthal. What is up? Boys? Hey Dan? Happy
Speaker 1: Sunday Night, Happy Flagship Show. Week four in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Three more overtime games. I know we didn't like in
Speaker 1: this room how all of them turned out, Mr Sizzler,
Speaker 1: But the greater point is that football is damn good
Speaker 1: right now in terms of, uh, how competitive the games are,
Speaker 1: how fun they've been to watch, and you're not seeing
Speaker 1: those think pieces Greg, like you saw this time last
Speaker 1: year about how there's something wrong with the sport. Well,
Speaker 1: it does go to show that Points cell I was
Speaker 1: thinking about that on Thursday night because we were talking
Speaker 1: about what a class the game that is, and everyone
Speaker 1: that watched at home came out of that game feeling
Speaker 1: like the NFL. It's it's why it's our favorite start
Speaker 1: the Rams and Vikings, and it's because Points. Ultimately, people
Speaker 1: do like Point, but it's more complex and that there's
Speaker 1: been more entertainment, there's been more late game drama. There's
Speaker 1: been a lot of on stage on big stage, absolutely,
Speaker 1: but also there's been more points and we Mark, you
Speaker 1: know that Mark's leg is elevated right now? Is this
Speaker 1: very health reasons? Uh? I was carrying too, I guess
Speaker 1: is it a chord of firewood? I was carrying to
Speaker 1: collections of firewood into West's house one night's Friday night
Speaker 1: and collapsed to the like totally crumbled in the driveway
Speaker 1: and landed on my left knee. And it's I'm just
Speaker 1: sort of I don't have ice, but it's the version
Speaker 1: of ice sing. It just putting my knee up on
Speaker 1: the table to deal with the setback in it's a
Speaker 1: health issue, okay. Um, I was gonna say last year
Speaker 1: we were giving it to the NFL. This is not
Speaker 1: just us, you know, being so you know pro we're
Speaker 1: in the bag for the league. Last year there was
Speaker 1: a bad football, especially in prime time. We've been lucky
Speaker 1: this year, so there was bad energy around a lot
Speaker 1: of NFL stuff a year ago. And I think right now,
Speaker 1: and it's crazy that that Thursday night game that we
Speaker 1: went to feels like a million years ago and a
Speaker 1: million great games ago. At this point, there's great energy
Speaker 1: around this season right now and what's happening. I think
Speaker 1: it says a lot when the piling on the quarterback
Speaker 1: rule is the biggest problem the NFL has had, Like
Speaker 1: that's not You're right, Like tomorrow there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: terrible story that ruins. There are as many flags this
Speaker 1: year as last year. But last year it was a
Speaker 1: lot of flags and not much football action. This year
Speaker 1: there's enough football action that people can put up with.
Speaker 1: It does help that, like eighteen, NFL defensive coordinators are
Speaker 1: systematically drugged before each game so that they have no
Speaker 1: idea what's happening by the end of the first quarter.
Speaker 1: I am gonna try to be a professional and get
Speaker 1: through this podcast. Taking Mark seriously with the leg up.
Speaker 1: This is wild. What's happening? This is how I get through.
Speaker 1: I'm sustaining and I listen. I tried to firewood into
Speaker 1: West's house. Did well? All right? We got a lot
Speaker 1: of games to get to, a lot of fun football
Speaker 1: to talk about. Week four Sunday, Let's start with one
Speaker 1: of those overtime thrillies. Mariota throws in the end zone.
Speaker 1: Manister tutt T davis first ever text tex fis stamp.
Speaker 1: That's why you picked him. That's why you want him.
Speaker 1: That's why Marcus Mariota is Chevy w g f X.
Speaker 1: Clip that off. That's in the running for call of
Speaker 1: the Year. Marcus Mariotta connected with Corey Davis and a
Speaker 1: ten yard touchdown passed just before the end of overtime.
Speaker 1: The Tennessee Titans beat the Philadelphia Eagles to twenty three.
Speaker 1: What a game, A tough loss for the defending champ Eagles,
Speaker 1: who blew a fourteen point second half lead and a
Speaker 1: three point leading overtime. Greg this tight, this team, they
Speaker 1: don't and the way that they did it has me
Speaker 1: thinking they have a chance to be special this year.
Speaker 1: It's one thing to win with Blaine Gabbert over the
Speaker 1: Texans with some crazy plays. Another you win in Jacksonville
Speaker 1: nine six. The fact that they won by being aggressive,
Speaker 1: throwing the ball down the field from the very first
Speaker 1: quarter and I know it was seventeen three midway through
Speaker 1: the third quarter, but there was actually a lot of action,
Speaker 1: a lot of interesting moments in this game. But from
Speaker 1: that point on, Mariota completed I believe at least fourteen
Speaker 1: straight passes after they were down seventeen three, they scored
Speaker 1: seventeen unanswered. You see Corey Davis playing like a number
Speaker 1: one receiver, and you see Marcus Mariotta throwing the ball
Speaker 1: down the field, and you start to see, Okay, this
Speaker 1: is what Matt Lafleur, this uh acolyte of of Sean McVeigh,
Speaker 1: you know, someone who learned from Sean McVeigh and Sean
Speaker 1: you know Kyle Shannon. You started to see that offense
Speaker 1: take shape, and you started to see Mariota throw well
Speaker 1: and move very well. And the fact that they overcame
Speaker 1: fourth and fifteen in overtime, fourth and four, and then
Speaker 1: you had a moment at fourth and two where you
Speaker 1: were gonna kick a field goal to tie the game
Speaker 1: in overtime, and Vrabel has kind of his come to Jesus,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go for a moment, takes the time out,
Speaker 1: decides to go for it, gets it to Dion Lewis.
Speaker 1: They marched down the field and win the game. That
Speaker 1: that changes at at the course of a season. I
Speaker 1: think they're just gonna be so fired. And that was
Speaker 1: a trend in Week four. Coaches and big decisions, either
Speaker 1: changing their minds or making unorthodox decisions. There it worked
Speaker 1: out for the Titans. Vrabel said after the game that
Speaker 1: he put that kick team on the field on purpose
Speaker 1: to stop any confusion that the offense was going to
Speaker 1: have because he knew he was going to take a
Speaker 1: time out regardless, which is a little bit different than
Speaker 1: what happened in the Colts game. We'll get to that,
Speaker 1: but but Brabel seemed to keep his head about him there.
Speaker 1: It's amazing to me that Vrabel, prior is someone with
Speaker 1: zero pro football coaching experience, and along with Matt Neggie,
Speaker 1: looks like one of the best new hires right now,
Speaker 1: and and did not have a great track record as
Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator in the NFL. But this Titans defense
Speaker 1: has been playing really well, and they've been creative, and
Speaker 1: they gave problems to the Eagles, who I think overall
Speaker 1: they should not Eagles fans should not be panicking. I
Speaker 1: think you saw a lot in this game actually to
Speaker 1: be excited about. Carson Wentz looked much better. You're getting
Speaker 1: something out of Jordan Matthews, which I think just adding
Speaker 1: to the mix is nice. And Auson Jeffrey was back
Speaker 1: and made a huge difference eight for one oh five
Speaker 1: and one for Jeffrey Carson wentz thirty three fifty three,
Speaker 1: eight and two touchdowns. So yeah, this is it wasn't
Speaker 1: like a dark day for the defending champs. It's just
Speaker 1: the Titans might be for real this They deserve respect
Speaker 1: and UM, I personally would not call them the Titoons anymore. Decision.
Speaker 1: Jarrell Casey playing as well as Fletcher Cox this year.
Speaker 1: He's been awesome today. Harold Landry is one of the
Speaker 1: impact rookies on defense to Dan, A lot of there
Speaker 1: already there. I've received probably twenty five strongly worded tweets
Speaker 1: UM directed essentially at us to corral you on this issue.
Speaker 1: Where are you with this is how? This is how
Speaker 1: you generate heat and popping buzz around your podcast. Titoons
Speaker 1: win some games in December. Nice job. In September, just
Speaker 1: beat the a f C, the you know, the the
Speaker 1: division leaders, guys who made the cover chain. They beat
Speaker 1: the defending Super Bowl chain and they and what I
Speaker 1: liked is they changed their plan. They couldn't run the
Speaker 1: ball and they just started to throw it like crazy
Speaker 1: because that was who cares what I what I call them?
Speaker 1: Enjoy your your team, Tennessee. I think some people do
Speaker 1: care d Tennessee region. I think they're going to be
Speaker 1: enjoying them this year. It's fun squad, all right, let's
Speaker 1: uh move on weeks with the snap, it's down, Daniel,
Speaker 1: what the whole fair Bears kick is off and it's
Speaker 1: good and the Texans win it over time at the buzzer,
Speaker 1: fair Bear drills it and the Texans get their first
Speaker 1: k I l t Mark VanderMeer with a call one
Speaker 1: of my favorite names in the game right now. Kaimi
Speaker 1: Fairbar took advantage of a second chance at a game winner,
Speaker 1: connecting on a thirty seven yard or as time expired
Speaker 1: an overtime to give the Houston Texans a thirty seven
Speaker 1: thirty four win over the Indianapolis Colts. Bareburn missed the
Speaker 1: first kick. Why left, but the Cults it called time out.
Speaker 1: He didn't miss what it counted, Mark. That's how it ended.
Speaker 1: But this game will be remembered for an extremely gutsy
Speaker 1: or extremely dumb decision by Frank Reich. Absolutely, it's fourth
Speaker 1: and four with twenty seven seconds left in overtime, and
Speaker 1: they are sitting at the Culture, sitting at their own
Speaker 1: forty three yard line, and they dial up a pass
Speaker 1: that falls incomplete from Andrew Luck to Chester Rogers, and
Speaker 1: right away Twitter lights up with people asking why on
Speaker 1: earth did coach Frank Reich go for this this way?
Speaker 1: Why be this aggressive when there were other ways out
Speaker 1: of this game? He came out very strongly afterwards explaining
Speaker 1: why he did it. Do we want to get to
Speaker 1: that sound clippe? We're not playing the tie? I mean
Speaker 1: when we're going for that ten times out of ten,
Speaker 1: I mean that's just the way it's got a role. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't normally normally like push uh
Speaker 1: like Erica into soundclip world. So I I was in
Speaker 1: a new honestly, like you stuck the landing there. You
Speaker 1: just had to trust your instincts. That extra couple of words. Well,
Speaker 1: if I you know, I do that maybe once a
Speaker 1: year on the show. So next year at this time,
Speaker 1: I'll do a better job. And I hear it one
Speaker 1: more time, I thought, because I wasn't listening, Um, you know,
Speaker 1: just address it now. I mean we're not playing to tie.
Speaker 1: I mean when we're going for that ten times out
Speaker 1: of ten, I mean that's just the way it's got
Speaker 1: a role. West did you like it? Well? The philosophy
Speaker 1: is the same as Rabels, But the execution was faulty,
Speaker 1: and I think you can criticize Frank for taking the
Speaker 1: time out the play before to try to get the
Speaker 1: defense to jump off sides, leaving himself with little wig
Speaker 1: room there. You can also fault him for not choosing
Speaker 1: on a fourth and fourth play, say your best two
Speaker 1: point conversion type of run play, which would have left
Speaker 1: the other team with no time on the clock had
Speaker 1: they gotten the ball back. What do you what do
Speaker 1: you mean that the clock stops the second you run
Speaker 1: the ball, So that's gonna running play will take more
Speaker 1: time than a passing play, but it still would have
Speaker 1: left you with about twenty seconds I think, if not
Speaker 1: a thing less than that, right, I mean, there were
Speaker 1: twenty seven seconds at the at the point of the snap.
Speaker 1: It went down to twenty four on the incomplete pass.
Speaker 1: It's gonna change possession and the clock is gonna stop.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's an extra three or four seconds. Maybe, But
Speaker 1: I like the idea in general, the execution and the
Speaker 1: spot on the field and the way that game was flowing.
Speaker 1: I can understand the criticism, but maybe kind of like Mark,
Speaker 1: you know, not quite trusting the process there, it was
Speaker 1: the right idea and the long In the long term,
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna help out and you're gonna have
Speaker 1: some learning learning the right idea on the other team's
Speaker 1: forty three yard line and not your own. Well that
Speaker 1: makes that That's that I agree is I think that
Speaker 1: where it was on the field, you're just are asking
Speaker 1: potentially for disaster. Here's the thing that you can make
Speaker 1: a better throw, you can also make a better play
Speaker 1: on defense. You had to give up a lot of
Speaker 1: ards immediately on defense, and that's exactly what they did
Speaker 1: to lose the game. So it's on players too. Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson first play after this fourth down failure connects with
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hawkman's twenty four yards. They spiked the ball and
Speaker 1: kicked the field goal. So even even after that that
Speaker 1: went sideways on the Colts. If they just put up
Speaker 1: a little bit of a fight and get a stop,
Speaker 1: even an incompletion that affects the time situation, you probably survive.
Speaker 1: But they just didn't execute. And what should have been
Speaker 1: lost in this game is how great Andrew Luck played.
Speaker 1: Um This a week after a lot of handwringing and concerned,
Speaker 1: concerned about how Luck has looked and how maybe that
Speaker 1: shoulder is permanently damaged to the point where where he'll
Speaker 1: never be the same guy. He made a lot of
Speaker 1: great throws in this game. He he had some drives
Speaker 1: where again he's just an easy guy to root for,
Speaker 1: where I felt like, yes, Andrew Luck, you still can
Speaker 1: do this thing. Yes, I think if you are a
Speaker 1: Colts fan or a Texans fan, there is something to
Speaker 1: be optimistic about. Both offenses, both passing games, I should say,
Speaker 1: finding their way in this game as it went on
Speaker 1: and on to the point where you really knew the
Speaker 1: Texans we're gonna run. I look at this. This Cults
Speaker 1: ground attack, though, is absolutely a mega disaster. This is
Speaker 1: the most in balanced team in the a f C.
Speaker 1: It is. It is hard to watch how it balanced
Speaker 1: there and for their efforts. They played nineties snaps today
Speaker 1: and they are on a short week to play against
Speaker 1: the Patriots. T why Hilton has a hamstring injury and
Speaker 1: Frank Reich does not expect and they're in a good
Speaker 1: luck with that, they're in a good division. I think
Speaker 1: the Titans and Jags are both playoff type of teams.
Speaker 1: They're at three and one, and maybe that's why you
Speaker 1: are should be aggressive that you need wins not tied.
Speaker 1: That ends a nine game losing streak for the Texans
Speaker 1: that dates back to last year. And hats off to
Speaker 1: Adam Viny Terry, now the all time UH field goal
Speaker 1: UH leader after kicking UH converting late in the first half,
Speaker 1: let's move up cross Scott airs it up deep down
Speaker 1: the right side of all the spot Rad Sham k
Speaker 1: r l D with the call, Dak Prescott and Ezekiel Elliott,
Speaker 1: just like you just heard, connected a huge thirty four
Speaker 1: yard reception late in the fourth quarter. Prescott put it
Speaker 1: right where it needed to be and Elliott made the
Speaker 1: play Rett Mar mayor mar Mar thirty eight yard field
Speaker 1: goal in the final seconds. Cowboys win over the Lions
Speaker 1: at Jerry World. It was a career day for Zeke,
Speaker 1: who piled up two hundred forty all purpose yards and
Speaker 1: a touchdown carrying a Dallas offense that needs it more
Speaker 1: than ever. Big win for Big D Chris Westley. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this game could have gone either way, and the Lions
Speaker 1: took the lead right before that play we just heard
Speaker 1: announced Ezekie Alliott over the shoulder grab against Gerard Davis
Speaker 1: and coverage thirty five yards down the field. Just a
Speaker 1: phenomenal play from a running back. And Zeke last week
Speaker 1: moved the chains but had some critical airs that cost
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. This week, he moved the chains and kept
Speaker 1: making big play after play. The best player on the
Speaker 1: field in this game. You called this his best game
Speaker 1: yet as a Dallas Cowboy. Wow, Yeah, it's going out
Speaker 1: on a limb, but I do think it was. When
Speaker 1: you watch the game, the impact that he had, and
Speaker 1: he's probably the best running back in the NFL. He
Speaker 1: either him or talk early well. He's also so important
Speaker 1: to them because they just have so little else He
Speaker 1: he made up more than half of the team's total
Speaker 1: offense in what was their best day offensively of the season.
Speaker 1: He is easily half the teams shows you how the
Speaker 1: low of the bar is for Dallas. That this is
Speaker 1: their best offensive game of the season. Their leading receiver
Speaker 1: outside of Elliott was cold easily with four catches for
Speaker 1: fifty three yards and this but I thought this was
Speaker 1: also a positive game. This is no make make no mistake.
Speaker 1: Zeke is the reason they won this game. But Dak Prescott,
Speaker 1: who has been getting a lot of criticism lately, he
Speaker 1: actually was able to produce. He had gone eight straight games,
Speaker 1: I believe, without a two hundred yard game through for two,
Speaker 1: didn't throw a pick, had two touchdowns, so a positive
Speaker 1: game for him as well. He was fine, not nearly
Speaker 1: impact that DeMarcus Lawrence had. He had another three sacks.
Speaker 1: He's got twenty sacks in his last twenty games, and
Speaker 1: he has headed for a contract showdown with the Cowboys
Speaker 1: in the offseason. Yeah, he's gonna be rich because he's
Speaker 1: coming off of a franchise tag that already pays him
Speaker 1: seventeen million, and you're making your top ten m v
Speaker 1: P cannits. I don't know how many defensive players are
Speaker 1: going to get on that, but if if any are,
Speaker 1: I feel like Lawrence other than Khalil Mack would be
Speaker 1: in that defensive Player of the yumit because he's one
Speaker 1: of the few defensive players that shows up every single week.
Speaker 1: You can expect something from him. I don't know if
Speaker 1: like a best defensive player on a two and two
Speaker 1: team is going to be in my hear look at
Speaker 1: this game by Golden Tape. By the way, eight targets,
Speaker 1: eight catches, a hundred and thirty two yards to score.
Speaker 1: He was making mincemeat out of the Cowboys cornerbacks just
Speaker 1: could not tackle him. He's so good after the catch,
Speaker 1: and their cornerbacks outside of Byron Jones, just weren't that good.
Speaker 1: By the way. I don't know if you guys heard,
Speaker 1: but Jason Garrett said after the game that that passed
Speaker 1: that we heard the play Dak Prescott zeke that was
Speaker 1: officially a nut cutting throw. Talk of he said, talk
Speaker 1: about a nutcutting throw. That's just a visual that I
Speaker 1: don't I don't know what that what that means, but
Speaker 1: I think that's good. I think well that I was
Speaker 1: just about to say, Wes, you watched this game a
Speaker 1: lot closer than I did. I kind of just caught
Speaker 1: the end of it. That throw from Doc was a
Speaker 1: beautiful throw. They need their quarterback to step up and
Speaker 1: make plays, and that was a crucible moment in that game.
Speaker 1: That was a nutcutter, Ald nutcutter. He's lucky that the
Speaker 1: last play people remember was not the spin that he
Speaker 1: took to move his team out of field goal range
Speaker 1: on the third day. Something jarring when when Garrett goes
Speaker 1: blue like he like when in that show, it's something strange. Also,
Speaker 1: Jared Jones who's known to feel himself after games like these,
Speaker 1: always fun in the luxury box immediately after a crushing
Speaker 1: loss or a win. He fainted, uh, or he did
Speaker 1: He acted as if he had fainted right after the kick.
Speaker 1: And then I think Jane Slater on Instagram got a
Speaker 1: video of him walking through the tunnel, uh, making the
Speaker 1: comment we're worry' all worried about anything. Talking to the media.
Speaker 1: Who does a bad job and laughs? At least some
Speaker 1: of them doesn't. It's like, alright, like go crazy boasting
Speaker 1: to get to two and two with the narrow home
Speaker 1: win over the Lions. I don't know, the Cowboys, the ramps.
Speaker 1: Let's just reality against and this is another frustrating loss
Speaker 1: for the Lions who were unable to build on that
Speaker 1: Patriots win. And this is another one where they got
Speaker 1: their hearts ripped out at the end. So the Lions
Speaker 1: back to square one. Let's move up twelve seconds to
Speaker 1: go touched Bengals. I love it. I love when the
Speaker 1: booth guys, the radio guys, their homers at heart and
Speaker 1: they just say, if it, We're pumped right now. That
Speaker 1: was Dan Horde and Dave Lapham of the Bengals Radio network,
Speaker 1: w c k Y with the call. Andy Dalton through
Speaker 1: a thirteen yard touchdown pass to A J. Green with
Speaker 1: seven seconds remaining, lifting the Cincinnati by Angles to a
Speaker 1: thirty seven thirty six win over the Falcons. Dalton moved
Speaker 1: the Bengals seventy seventy five yards and just four minutes twice,
Speaker 1: keeping the drive alive on fourth down with completions the
Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd mark a huge road win for the Bengals
Speaker 1: and a crushing setback for a Falcons team that knows
Speaker 1: this feeling all too well. Falcons team that's one in
Speaker 1: three and the Bengals team that's three and one that
Speaker 1: looks to me like a playoff team. Fifty two points
Speaker 1: to the point of everything we're saying about defense or
Speaker 1: offense and defense in this league at this point, fifty
Speaker 1: two points scored in the first two quarters, which is
Speaker 1: the most by any team this season in the first half.
Speaker 1: And here is what I thought said so much about
Speaker 1: this Bengals offense that we have been on board with
Speaker 1: since August. They lose Tyler Eiffert. They're tight end to
Speaker 1: a gruesome lower it's a fractured ankle. I believe he
Speaker 1: has minutes seconds into the third quarter and and it
Speaker 1: was such a terrible injury and he was carted away
Speaker 1: shedding tears. At the entire Bengals offense I think was
Speaker 1: emotionally affected by it. They completely went asleep. Seconds later
Speaker 1: a blocked punt, then in the next possession punt and
Speaker 1: then Andy Dalton threw a tipped pass that got picked,
Speaker 1: and you could feel this game floating away from Cincinnati
Speaker 1: on the road. And instead of crumbling, which we've seen it,
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton do the Andy Dalton who threw four picks
Speaker 1: last week. Typically, if he's gonna go down the dark
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton path, he's gonna he's gonna account for another turnover.
Speaker 1: They would hand this to an excellent Falcons offense. Instead,
Speaker 1: he dialed up a field goal and that final touchdown
Speaker 1: drive that you mentioned. This was one of the I
Speaker 1: hate this word, but one of the guts here Bengals
Speaker 1: victories that I've seen in years. It's a huge one.
Speaker 1: It's not a lockup up though. What happens to me
Speaker 1: in these football weeks is either everything goes right, which
Speaker 1: is rare, or everything goes wrong. And I I locked
Speaker 1: up the Falcons, and I also got stuck writing this game,
Speaker 1: which took about forty five thousand hours. This game went
Speaker 1: on for two and a half years, and I had
Speaker 1: the Texans ones too. It's like, please throw me into
Speaker 1: two darker corners at the same time. I have no
Speaker 1: idea what's happening hanging there? We we talke last week.
Speaker 1: I think Mark you you yourself had said maybe for
Speaker 1: the preview for this game, you don't want to put
Speaker 1: too much on Andy Dalton because he's not quite at
Speaker 1: that level as a quarterback. This was I think one
Speaker 1: of his signature wins of his career and one of
Speaker 1: the signature throws. The Falcons deserved to take heed for
Speaker 1: not being able to close this out, but that play
Speaker 1: that was a perfectly thrown ball to the perfect spot,
Speaker 1: the receiver ran a perfect route. Cincinnati just outplayed the
Speaker 1: Falcons in the biggest point of this was a defense
Speaker 1: free game, and Dalton had his way, as did Matt Ryan.
Speaker 1: How many teams have scored more points than the Cincinnati
Speaker 1: Bengals this year more points, I'm gonna say none. The
Speaker 1: way you set it up too, Sean mcveigh's Los Angeles
Speaker 1: Rams are the only team that will probably have more
Speaker 1: after Monday Night's game. But the Bengals are a top
Speaker 1: five offense so far this year, and the Falcons basically
Speaker 1: are too. I would say the last three weeks they
Speaker 1: are the fourth, and they lose two straight games at
Speaker 1: home like this to the Saints and and to the Bengals.
Speaker 1: And I saw the stat that teams were three hundred
Speaker 1: and eighty six in one when they When you score
Speaker 1: thirty seven points with no turnovers before the Falcons lost
Speaker 1: last week, this year, they score thirty six points one
Speaker 1: less with no turnovers. I mean you usually at home
Speaker 1: that that's that, and you usually you win those games.
Speaker 1: I mean it's not like up for debate. But the
Speaker 1: NFL is a little different this year. This has been
Speaker 1: a it's been kind of shielded by some other quarterbacks
Speaker 1: that have been playing out of their mind. But this
Speaker 1: has been a brilliant three week stretch from Matt Ryan.
Speaker 1: So for them to come out of September one in
Speaker 1: three is bitterly disappointing. And you have to wonder losing
Speaker 1: their top defenders two season ending injuries. This is just
Speaker 1: what the Falcons are gonna be this there eight or
Speaker 1: nine wins and and their defense is just not gonna
Speaker 1: let them close out games. This is what you expect
Speaker 1: to happen when you lose the backbone of your defense.
Speaker 1: They can They're the best one in three team in
Speaker 1: the league off the top of my head, and they're
Speaker 1: not a one in three team that I would rule
Speaker 1: out right. It does. It does every every week though.
Speaker 1: They're right there with good teams, and they find a
Speaker 1: way to lose. They can climb out of this far
Speaker 1: feet dead. But they've got some some issues that aren't
Speaker 1: about to go away. Let's move on. Tradition returned right,
Speaker 1: He's got Debriel for the touchdown, bright fright corner of
Speaker 1: the end zone. Six touchdown pros today My second year quarterback,
Speaker 1: Mitch Trabinsky. Who Jeff John Janiak w BBM with the call,
Speaker 1: Mitch Trabinsky, Yeah, that guy through a career high six
Speaker 1: touchdown passes just one. Show the NFL record what the
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears the team around the NFL destroyed the Bucks.
Speaker 1: Rabinsky had never thrown more than two touchdowns in a
Speaker 1: game before Sunday's explosion. Maybe stole that fits magic from
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick, who was benched in this one. Greg. This
Speaker 1: is what you call breakout performance for young Mitch. It
Speaker 1: was for him in the entire offense, for Matt Naggy
Speaker 1: calling up the right plays where guys are just streaking
Speaker 1: wide open, and in this game, Trabinsky was decisive and
Speaker 1: hitting him. And he did have a few dimes, one
Speaker 1: to Tarik Cohen I can think of, one to Trey
Speaker 1: Burton where he was wide open but it was a
Speaker 1: perfect throw, and and another to Taylor Gabriel. So he
Speaker 1: was making chunk plays down the field. He was confident
Speaker 1: he was there leading Russia. Robisky can move. I mean,
Speaker 1: he is a He's a great uh runner when he
Speaker 1: wants to be. And they did call a run that
Speaker 1: was a key play in the first half. And so
Speaker 1: I just think Matt Naggi has just so obviously made
Speaker 1: a difference and so obviously looks like the Chiefs offense.
Speaker 1: And the biggest difference today was he was playing the
Speaker 1: box who are one of the worst defense in the
Speaker 1: league and are so predictable and Mike Smith's gonna lose
Speaker 1: his mind and the number two Strabisky hit his shots.
Speaker 1: He hit the Let's let's hear what Dirk Cutter, the
Speaker 1: head coach, had to say about the effort by his
Speaker 1: defense and whether or not maybe the defensive cording to
Speaker 1: Mike Smith could be in danger of losing his job.
Speaker 1: We should fire every person that was on that field today,
Speaker 1: starting with me. That was that was horrific. That would
Speaker 1: cause some chaos, anybody any ideas? Right the Glazers, the
Speaker 1: ownership there really worried about Man United, who's having their
Speaker 1: own struggles right now. How about that for a little
Speaker 1: Premier League knowledge they're falling. That's a big bounce back
Speaker 1: after the war that west Ham Jersey and got killed
Speaker 1: for it also known as Greg's fashion apocalypse. Say, I
Speaker 1: don't I have no regrets west Ham with a big
Speaker 1: win over over Man. Don't know Greg wore a west
Speaker 1: Ham kit. I think they call it to our Saturday
Speaker 1: UM media tour when we were in England, and I
Speaker 1: think he did it. He's like, oh, this is gonna
Speaker 1: give me a lot of points with the locals. And
Speaker 1: he didn't realize in London west Ham is a hated team.
Speaker 1: Just that's where you are killed. Just every team is
Speaker 1: hated because there's only you know, you got killed five
Speaker 1: hours straight up. Just to be clear from a visual angle,
Speaker 1: he wasn't wearing the shorts and the shin guards in
Speaker 1: the socks was actually better than an antagonist rule anyway, Right, Oh,
Speaker 1: I liked. I liked. You know, at least people are
Speaker 1: given some sort of reaction. It's like the Bears. The
Speaker 1: Bears used to be a team. There was no reaction
Speaker 1: to Now I'm looking forward to watching them. Are you
Speaker 1: feeling yourself just a little bit because you're accountable? Hot
Speaker 1: take from our Twitter show is looking well, you've you've
Speaker 1: essentially probably already succeeded at it. But that was that.
Speaker 1: That was after the second week. Yeah, I said that
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston would be the starter after the bye, and
Speaker 1: this game was not Ryan Fitzpatrick's fault, but he had
Speaker 1: a fumble, he had an interception, and they had five
Speaker 1: first downs and six drives, and and they wanted to
Speaker 1: give Jamis Winston some work because I think all along
Speaker 1: their cutter wanted to go back to him if he
Speaker 1: had any I mean, we there was a report that
Speaker 1: their cutter wanted to put Ryan Griffin in the Monday
Speaker 1: night football game. So this was always to do this apparently,
Speaker 1: and now he has his opportunity. I think, Greg, your
Speaker 1: prediction is gonna come to fruition. Yeah, anytime you can
Speaker 1: replace like one of the league's most productive quarterbacks with
Speaker 1: the guy who led the NFL and fumbles the year before,
Speaker 1: you have to do it well, Fitzpatrick, I think we've
Speaker 1: seen who he is, and I think that's just what
Speaker 1: they're over. And you refused to acknowledge that Winston's played
Speaker 1: three years. I am definitely willing to believe. Here's the
Speaker 1: thing that I'm definitely willing to believe that a twenty
Speaker 1: four year old has room to grow in his career
Speaker 1: year and he's shown a lot of good things. But
Speaker 1: this isn't the time for that. It's time to give
Speaker 1: a little props to Khalil Mack. Four straight games with
Speaker 1: a forced fumble in a sack of outrageous and hit
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston's arm on a play that turned into an intercept.
Speaker 1: This is he had to turn two more turnover today.
Speaker 1: And they listened to West about Terrico and gave him
Speaker 1: the ball all day and and he was the guy
Speaker 1: not Jordan's house team who the Bears, the team of
Speaker 1: a T not the Bucks. Who's better than the Bears?
Speaker 1: Definitely the Ram the team of a T N. Maybe
Speaker 1: the Saint in I want to see more from the
Speaker 1: offense on a consistent basis. The defense, I think is
Speaker 1: a top five defense, no doubt, one of the only
Speaker 1: difference making defenses. I need to see more from the
Speaker 1: offense than one fire show against the Bucks are dreadful.
Speaker 1: Every mind you of the Rex Grossman bears right now?
Speaker 1: Do you Mark? Do you remember the sitcom in the
Speaker 1: eighties head of the class? Remember the cool kid that
Speaker 1: used to sit in the back with the computer of
Speaker 1: his leg up all the time? That's you right now.
Speaker 1: I having a do every show that in every video presentation.
Speaker 1: This it changes your entire delivery system. It just everything
Speaker 1: seems flip and casual, and you're a little detached, but
Speaker 1: you're relaxed. I woke up feeling largely lost. I still
Speaker 1: feel that way. This feel is appropriate the way I'm sitting.
Speaker 1: It's the I D what is it? I D F
Speaker 1: I D A F oh, I don't give a Yeah
Speaker 1: that guy, you're that guy. Yeah, don't tell the employer,
Speaker 1: but it's very true. Let's move on out of the
Speaker 1: shotgun takes the hand off to Timmy grand What side
Speaker 1: of the pylon? Tous down here? The north ends out
Speaker 1: and Jimmy Graham he enjoys a lambow leaf. Wayne Larvey
Speaker 1: w T m J Packers Radio Network, Aaron Rodgers and
Speaker 1: Jimmy Grin connected on their first touchdown past of the year. GENA.
Speaker 1: Packers put together a really nice effort defensively, at least
Speaker 1: a twenty two zip shutout win over the Buffalo Bills
Speaker 1: have come down to earth after that excellent effort against
Speaker 1: the Vikings last Sunday, so they can carry it over
Speaker 1: in the NFC North Um. We we talked about this
Speaker 1: last week. Aaron Rodgers needs help. He needs his own
Speaker 1: his teammates to to kind of come in and and
Speaker 1: help lift him when he's beat up and doing everything
Speaker 1: he can. He got that today. Aaron Jones West who
Speaker 1: you who? You like a lot? His numbers aren't gonna
Speaker 1: jump out at you, but he really ran the ball well.
Speaker 1: Gave them a lift um and a touchdown um. The defense, though,
Speaker 1: and this has been a defense that Mike Petton was
Speaker 1: supposed to improve it and it hasn't really happened through
Speaker 1: three weeks. Yes, it's the Bills and and Josh Allen
Speaker 1: rookie who looked lost in this game, but they get
Speaker 1: their first shutout since two thousand ten and made Josh
Speaker 1: Allen just look. Lost three turnovers, two interceptions of fumble,
Speaker 1: sixteen of thirty three for a hundred and fifty one yards,
Speaker 1: And uh so the Packers do what they have to do.
Speaker 1: They take care of business. They did with the Vikings
Speaker 1: should have done. But Aaron Rodgers said it himself after
Speaker 1: the game, Uh this was a really great effort by
Speaker 1: by our defense, but our offense. This was a non
Speaker 1: playoff caliber effort by our offense. And they still have
Speaker 1: work to do on that side of the ball. What
Speaker 1: percentage of outside of Green Bay football fans knew the
Speaker 1: name Kyler fact Roll before today, who had three sacks,
Speaker 1: who has been a whipping boy among Packers backers? Who
Speaker 1: want that guy off the roster right when you when
Speaker 1: you like Aaron Rodgers needs more help, I think of
Speaker 1: the defense and the pass rush. Clay Matthews and Nick
Speaker 1: Perry have been disappointing this year up until this game,
Speaker 1: and fact Rol is usually their fourth ad dresser I think,
Speaker 1: behind Reggie Gilbert too. So so this is a game
Speaker 1: where you kind of expect Mike Patton to cook up
Speaker 1: something that's gonna scramble a rookie's brains and that's exactly
Speaker 1: what he did. And Clay Matthews, Yes, we don't have
Speaker 1: to play any sound from Clay. He did get he
Speaker 1: was active, and he had half a sack but no penalties,
Speaker 1: and he was no fact rol because there's only one
Speaker 1: fact Roll and that's Kyle. You're saying fact rol. I'm
Speaker 1: not fat girl, right fact Rol. No, No, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying fat girl. I'm not I'm not saying zaftig woman
Speaker 1: like zat tig um and any other thoughts in this game.
Speaker 1: I don't really know where to go after what what
Speaker 1: just happened here, but I didn't again casual cool, detached market.
Speaker 1: Next time I look over, you're gonna be smoking a cigarette.
Speaker 1: It ain't gonna be a cigarette, um my. My only
Speaker 1: other thought on on the Bill side of the ball
Speaker 1: before we move on is Lashawn McCoy, who I know
Speaker 1: is banged up but completely invisible to start this season,
Speaker 1: and he carried a mediocre Bills team on offense last year.
Speaker 1: I think he accounted for a third of their offense.
Speaker 1: It has not been the same thing, so I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's him being getting older, banged up off
Speaker 1: the field issues. But Lashawn McCoy is no longer a
Speaker 1: guy that's bailing out the Bills offense. I'd like to
Speaker 1: see that. Let's move on. Lettis turns up the field.
Speaker 1: It's funny right to the time to the five to
Speaker 1: own touchdown. Patriots, welcome to New England. See pay there's
Speaker 1: your first moment. I'm gonna get this wrong. Twitter user
Speaker 1: for rated me recalling Bob Socci by the like mispronouncing
Speaker 1: it for five straight years. You should know Greg can
Speaker 1: help me. Bob Socy. I thought you could just got
Speaker 1: it right the first time, anyway, Bob soci Patriots Radio
Speaker 1: Network w b Z with the call Great. Tom Brady
Speaker 1: threw for two seventy four and three touchdowns of Patriots
Speaker 1: hand in Miami, their first loss of their season, thirty
Speaker 1: eight seventh detonation in Foxborough. Tom Brady improved the fifteen
Speaker 1: and one in his career. First the Dolphins, who came
Speaker 1: crashing back down to earth after that three and oh
Speaker 1: start West, the Pats of effectively restored order in the
Speaker 1: a f C East. I think they've restored order, but
Speaker 1: I'd stop shy of saying they fixed what was ailing
Speaker 1: them on offense. They came out and against a defensive
Speaker 1: and duo of Cam Wake and Robert Quinn that has
Speaker 1: about a hundred and sixty career sacks. They decided to
Speaker 1: see if these pass rushers can stop the run, and
Speaker 1: Sony Michelle ran through big holes throughout the first half.
Speaker 1: James White was really good as a runner and a receiver.
Speaker 1: I think the Patriots looked at the Dolphins said we
Speaker 1: can push them around, and we don't trust their linebackers.
Speaker 1: Let's take advantage of them, and that's what they did.
Speaker 1: It was not some game where braiding the passing game
Speaker 1: got healthy. Philip Doorsett made a nice touchdown catch but
Speaker 1: also dropped Tom Brady's best throw of the day downfield
Speaker 1: called Darryl Patterson's touchdown came on a pick play at
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and with Davy and Howard got
Speaker 1: lost and basically busted coverage. Uh. James White scored on
Speaker 1: a twenty two yard TV one play after Tannehill botched
Speaker 1: a shotgun snap and Kyle Vannoy scrambled for the ball
Speaker 1: and got it. This was more to me like the
Speaker 1: Patriots got the brakes and imposed their will rather than Hey,
Speaker 1: the Patriots offense is backing, you better watch out. But
Speaker 1: the defense showed up. As a as a Patriots fan
Speaker 1: to see that the Dolphins didn't have a drive longer
Speaker 1: than five plays until garbage time. I've talked a lot
Speaker 1: in the podcast that they're gonna have to win games
Speaker 1: different types of ways because I don't think the offense
Speaker 1: is ever going to get to the levels it's been before.
Speaker 1: And they had a game plan that just absolutely shut
Speaker 1: down Miami. I'm not sure exactly what the game plan was,
Speaker 1: but there was no running game and they concentrated on
Speaker 1: Tannehill's legs too. They did not want him breaking the
Speaker 1: pocket because I think they thought he's more dangerous as
Speaker 1: a runner than a passer. What was that, Erica? Alright?
Speaker 1: West and Gregg picked the Patriots. Oh yeah, I haven't
Speaker 1: seen like that since the Invasion of Normandy. You're not
Speaker 1: gonna I'm not. I don't even worry about this. I
Speaker 1: don't get three, and I don't get the locks because
Speaker 1: then you pick the Rams at home against the Chargers,
Speaker 1: I don't mind. Anyone can take any locks, right they.
Speaker 1: I'm looking in the mirror on this one against the
Speaker 1: three and O Dolphins, a team that Greg said have
Speaker 1: major issues for the Patriots. They were in worship. You're
Speaker 1: you're the culprit on this one, West because you're saying
Speaker 1: you're trying to stick it to Greg because you never
Speaker 1: were bleeding in the Dolphins, so you're using Gregg's explanations
Speaker 1: as your cover, and that doesn't They have no issue
Speaker 1: looking in the mirror against the three and O. T.
Speaker 1: Mark knows what I'm talking about. That I will say that,
Speaker 1: you know, we look back at our grandfathers has courageous figures.
Speaker 1: I think that our grandchildren this is the moment they
Speaker 1: can I did. That's why I'm letting you off a
Speaker 1: hook on this. The reason I did pick him as
Speaker 1: I couldn't look in the mirror and pick the Patriots
Speaker 1: at home America. Help me a break, give me a break,
Speaker 1: and I see what you're doing. West. You're playing it
Speaker 1: too safe, and I'm not playing it safe. It Oh,
Speaker 1: you're worried that I'm four and oh and kicking your
Speaker 1: ass in the game you invented. I'm telling you you
Speaker 1: you need to man that I'm running away with the
Speaker 1: title like the Boston Red Sox and it's not gonna work.
Speaker 1: I looked in the mirror I saw a brave pick
Speaker 1: against the undefeated team. Hey, you can stick it where
Speaker 1: the sun throat seine coming in Erica. What were locked
Speaker 1: arms when we get through this firestorm? What were the Dolphins? Well,
Speaker 1: they definitely were m I A hey, now yeah, Dolphins fans.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna pile on here, but anybody that was
Speaker 1: coming after people in this room on Twitter, Uh, this
Speaker 1: was kind of the game A lot of people saw
Speaker 1: coming that the Dolphins were maybe not for real and
Speaker 1: the and they really got sent back to the drawing
Speaker 1: in a in a really positive game for Sony Michelle.
Speaker 1: And I know he was on your radar West as
Speaker 1: a guy who was struggling. I heard from one of
Speaker 1: our super listeners, Uh, a mention to all of us,
Speaker 1: Mike Burkewitz, who thought you were too tough on him
Speaker 1: last week? He did have out of his fifty yards
Speaker 1: last week, thirty five or after contact. Rewatched re watch
Speaker 1: Sony Michelle last week the mistakes did he made? Yeah? Mentally,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is he's run hard, and today he
Speaker 1: had fifty yards after contacts so far, so far through
Speaker 1: two weeks, more than half his yards after conning. And
Speaker 1: that's what I like to see he's leading. He was
Speaker 1: not that impressive today. These were big holes he was
Speaker 1: running through. I counted maybe once or twice where you
Speaker 1: made a guy missed. This is not this, Sony, Michelle.
Speaker 1: We saw it, Georgia. Maybe he will be that guy,
Speaker 1: but he wasn't that guy today. Let's move on on
Speaker 1: the right sideline up Dotamon Creep in to fifteen to
Speaker 1: the Tana vide touchdown along the right sideline portals COmON
Speaker 1: Creep star Frank Frangie w o k V with the call.
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles through two touchdown passes, including that sixty seven
Speaker 1: yard or to donte Mont Creep, and then the Jacksonville
Speaker 1: Jaguars used a dominant defensive outing performance, handling the New
Speaker 1: York Jets easily h thirty one to twelve. The final
Speaker 1: Bordles career high three eight yards passing uh And for
Speaker 1: the Jaguars fans who were scratching their heads after last
Speaker 1: week's nine and six loss to the Titans. Loss at
Speaker 1: home to the Titans, this was a welcome sight. Um
Speaker 1: watching the game. You'll and you you boys will see
Speaker 1: it as well. This would not be a game where
Speaker 1: I'm looking at what Blake Bortles did, and I'm marveling
Speaker 1: at his ability to stick things into the not the
Speaker 1: corn hole, the turkey hole. You gotta be careful and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, looking off receivers and going through our defenders
Speaker 1: or going through his progressions in some type of magnificent way. Uh.
Speaker 1: The Jets played a very soft defense, uh, coverage that
Speaker 1: I couldn't quite figure out, and just portals did a
Speaker 1: nice job carving them up on just crossing patterns over
Speaker 1: and over again, ten yards for attempt Jaguar Jaguars just
Speaker 1: kind of running these little crossing patterns maybe seven yards
Speaker 1: over the field and then heading up field twelve to
Speaker 1: fifteen yards gains. It felt like all day and um,
Speaker 1: this game wasn't even as close as the score indicates.
Speaker 1: The Jets almost from the first series, UM, were outclassed
Speaker 1: and quite frankly, I think out coached, and and they
Speaker 1: did not look good at all as a team. Uh.
Speaker 1: And the Jaguars defense, although they're they're not as turnover
Speaker 1: minded as they were last year. Uh, they definitely stifled
Speaker 1: the Jets on offense. Uh, Jets offense. I'll also add
Speaker 1: that I'm very concerned about Army Bates Uh, the offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator and the and the scheme that he's cooking up,
Speaker 1: and whether he's giving Donald a chance to succeed here
Speaker 1: because it's highly conservative. Why at this point, Well, it
Speaker 1: just kind of let it. It's I would say he
Speaker 1: would probably say we need to be conservative, especially with
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff underneath, because Donald's not getting a
Speaker 1: lot of time. The offensive line was overwhelmed in this game.
Speaker 1: It's a tough matchup. But this is now three straight
Speaker 1: weeks and Jet fans were used to this type of stuff.
Speaker 1: But Week one against the lines, they put up thirty
Speaker 1: one points of the third quarter and a total wipeout
Speaker 1: on the road. And this Jets team has just been
Speaker 1: terrible for three straight weeks now, so they've come crashing
Speaker 1: down to Earth. Jaguars take care of business. I imagined
Speaker 1: that my father would not be happy with today's efforts.
Speaker 1: So let's hear from him. His name is Key, He'll
Speaker 1: doubt about it. He's a big fan. Well is he
Speaker 1: this day? Do you think today's performance by the Jets
Speaker 1: was pitiful? I don't know what kind of defense was
Speaker 1: being called by the coaches today, but it appeared to
Speaker 1: be some sort of a zone defense. Which was so
Speaker 1: totally ridiculous because everybody was so wide open that it
Speaker 1: was almost it was so easy for Bottles that it
Speaker 1: was ridiculous. Um offensively the Jets, I don't know where
Speaker 1: uh donald is going, but he certainly again for the
Speaker 1: third straight game, has played worse each each week. Uh
Speaker 1: this week he really should have had three picks and
Speaker 1: luckily uh three of them were dropped. But once again,
Speaker 1: a poor performance by Donald, poor performance by the Jets defense,
Speaker 1: even though they had a chance to come back a
Speaker 1: little bit. I thought the coaching staff was also to
Speaker 1: be accountable for not being prepared to play against the Jaguas.
Speaker 1: I don't want to let um, Thank you dad. I
Speaker 1: don't want to let Donald off the hook either. My
Speaker 1: dad's right, he is. He missed on throws in this game.
Speaker 1: He got away with some easy interceptionce Jalen Ramsey had
Speaker 1: a gimme that he dropped. Um. So he doesn't look
Speaker 1: good right now either. Everything seems to be going wrong
Speaker 1: for the Jets. And keep an eye on this now, Mark,
Speaker 1: you brought it up last on the preview show. Is
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles in trouble? I really didn't think so. After
Speaker 1: the Browns game. But when they get out classed like
Speaker 1: this and you see it before, this is this is
Speaker 1: the type of thing that can lead to w f
Speaker 1: an callers staging a revolt against the coaching staff. Bowls
Speaker 1: has got to get this team turned around quickly. It's
Speaker 1: one thing if you if they all thought the offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator was was this gem inside the coaching staff that
Speaker 1: could maximize and make the most of your quarterback that
Speaker 1: you're centering the franchise around. If that's not the case,
Speaker 1: what is the selling point for this coaching staff right
Speaker 1: out of time? And uh, it just makes you wonder,
Speaker 1: why go if you're gonna have that short of hook,
Speaker 1: why why bring it back in the first place? And
Speaker 1: it makes you think back to when they first hired
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles, And I think that was on Doug Marone's
Speaker 1: mind as uh he called on a fourth or after
Speaker 1: their last touchdown, he called for a two point conversion
Speaker 1: up twenty nine to twelve with twenty seven seconds left,
Speaker 1: And I think that was absolutely something that was inspired
Speaker 1: by how the Jets treated him when he was up
Speaker 1: for that job. And I thought for the first time,
Speaker 1: it might have been the first time in NFL history
Speaker 1: that a coach was running up the score on an
Speaker 1: opposing beat writer. That basically, and then know that the
Speaker 1: New York Daily News and Minish Meta did everything they
Speaker 1: could to make sure Doug Maron didn't get that job,
Speaker 1: and he enjoyed where his team is at compared to
Speaker 1: right now. That also feels very jetsy that they're getting
Speaker 1: punished because the beat writer for the Daily News hated Doug. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not just not feel fair to the fin mini's
Speaker 1: not dealing well with the beat writer title. Well team columnists.
Speaker 1: Back then, it might have been let's uh, Mark, let's
Speaker 1: check in with the other sad team in the roof. Well,
Speaker 1: the win, good winding, the church spells the Raiders are
Speaker 1: a winner. Just finished Barby, not my church. That was
Speaker 1: Brent Musburger. Guys, it was kg MZ with the call.
Speaker 1: I forgot that he does radio for the Raiders. Now. Uh.
Speaker 1: The Oakland Raiders got a touchdown on a two point
Speaker 1: conversion to tie the game late in the in regulation,
Speaker 1: then got that short field goal from Matt mccrane late
Speaker 1: in overtime, securing a wild forty two win over the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, who have reasons to be ticked off and
Speaker 1: We'll get to that later, but Mark, let's start with
Speaker 1: the Raiders and John Gruden, who persevered finally gotten the
Speaker 1: wind column. Howd they do it? Well? They did it
Speaker 1: by doing what they've not done this season, which is
Speaker 1: getting back into a game that they looked out of
Speaker 1: early on and holding on to victory and holding on
Speaker 1: for the win by absolutely mauling Cleveland's defense down the
Speaker 1: down the stretch. I mean when this got into overtime
Speaker 1: and the way it got there we can dig into
Speaker 1: in a minute. I struggled watching this because as much
Speaker 1: as Cleveland was doing itself to move the ball, and
Speaker 1: there's reasons with this very young offense in Cleveland to
Speaker 1: be encouraged. Uh, they are defense, which has played well
Speaker 1: this season, had no answers at all for Jared Cook
Speaker 1: for everything else that at Oakland was doing through the
Speaker 1: passing game. This thing is about a nineties seven minute
Speaker 1: long UH War epic on game pass. So please uh
Speaker 1: A plan accordingly? That was, and let's get to it.
Speaker 1: The Browns got screwed. They should have won this game.
Speaker 1: They got a screwed as Clay Matthews and the Packers
Speaker 1: got screwed. In my opinion, this was a game they
Speaker 1: were attempting to close out with an eight point lead,
Speaker 1: about midway through the fourth quarter, maybe later than that. Uh,
Speaker 1: they get a Carlos Hyde rush and Carlos Hyder is
Speaker 1: running really well. On third down, he comes down his
Speaker 1: elbow with the ball down on the l O first
Speaker 1: down line. Of course that's not official, but they put
Speaker 1: the ball down spot. It measures the first down by
Speaker 1: half of the nose of a football. The repo was
Speaker 1: inside two minutes. Uh, so the replay comes from upstairs
Speaker 1: and they respot the ball and take the first down
Speaker 1: of the way and and that stunning because there was
Speaker 1: no evidence to indicate that he was short of the line. Uh.
Speaker 1: That led to a punt and the subsequent game tying score.
Speaker 1: So bad on the Browns not getting the stop. But
Speaker 1: this game should have been over. Yeah, I these things happen.
Speaker 1: But the one thing about this particular call on the
Speaker 1: spot is that's one call that really how many times
Speaker 1: this season is that kind of call overturned when the
Speaker 1: visual evidence is so strong. I don't, I don't, And
Speaker 1: you know what, you can choose to get super bitter
Speaker 1: about it, But it's just one of these turns of events.
Speaker 1: Where if you're Cleveland, I don't know what you say,
Speaker 1: because this they also had a defensive There was one
Speaker 1: other play where they essentially maul Derek Carr. He lost
Speaker 1: the ball and the Browns picked it up and started
Speaker 1: to run in for a touchdown, and they whistled a
Speaker 1: dead saying that forward motion had not been it had
Speaker 1: been stopped. And it's like the replay there also showed
Speaker 1: very clearly which should have been a Brown's defensive touchdown.
Speaker 1: So it was, from an officiating standpoint, a super odd game.
Speaker 1: There were so many moments where it felt like the
Speaker 1: Browns had won the game. I mean that that was
Speaker 1: one of them. Then again, in such an offensive game,
Speaker 1: it's unfair to put much on Baker Mayfield or the offense.
Speaker 1: But they had a chance there to put the game away.
Speaker 1: They went three and out. They did get the ball
Speaker 1: with thirty seconds left, and they were kind they were
Speaker 1: just about on the edge of being in position to score.
Speaker 1: Mayfield forces one and gets picked off, and they did
Speaker 1: get the ball in overtime, So this wasn't a just
Speaker 1: go down the field or anything. They got the ball
Speaker 1: in overtime and they went three and out there, so
Speaker 1: they just ran out of gas offensively, and car who
Speaker 1: was maybe a little up and down this game, he
Speaker 1: threw some dimes. I mean, there's very few guys who
Speaker 1: have the same touch on those over the top of
Speaker 1: the zone defense passes as David Carr Derek Carr. The
Speaker 1: Browns got the ball back after a fifty yard miss
Speaker 1: by the Raiders kicker near midfield and they went three
Speaker 1: and out, So they definitely have their chance. They just
Speaker 1: needed the three. They couldn't get it done. And this
Speaker 1: was almost like an NBA game to me, where NBA
Speaker 1: games are kind of defined by runs a lot by
Speaker 1: each side, where it felt like one team took over,
Speaker 1: the other team fired back, and they just went back
Speaker 1: and forth. It's exactly how one The one thing I'd say,
Speaker 1: the one thing I'd say looking at Cleveland's just their
Speaker 1: box score, is this is an incredibly young team. None
Speaker 1: of almost none of these players have really played together
Speaker 1: for more than a month or two. And it isn't
Speaker 1: It is a game that's so set aside from any
Speaker 1: other Brown's performance over the last five years that you
Speaker 1: have you can't come out of here feeling hopeless. You
Speaker 1: have to look at it and say there's something to
Speaker 1: build off of here. Even with the mistakes Baker Mayfield made,
Speaker 1: there's an act. There's an element of activity to this
Speaker 1: offense with him on the field that you just have
Speaker 1: not seen for a fun and clepetitive every week. This
Speaker 1: reminds me of Michael Lombardi used to say how Greg
Speaker 1: Williams is the battleship type of coordinator in some weeks,
Speaker 1: like the stuff he does up just doesn't work. After
Speaker 1: the game, Gruden said he thought Rodney Hudson was the
Speaker 1: m v P of the game because he called out
Speaker 1: and recognized who's the center for the Raiders, who called
Speaker 1: out and recognized every blitz that Williams was sending at them,
Speaker 1: and they had him all protected up and it made
Speaker 1: life East. That's encouraging Browns getting close. They could be
Speaker 1: four and oh there one, two and one, but I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be in the mix. Mark Hey, at
Speaker 1: least they're scoring for them something points in their heartbreaking losses.
Speaker 1: Now right, let's move on here. Coumps that pressure fallows out,
Speaker 1: follows out in the ground, stooped up by the Chargers.
Speaker 1: Isaac Rochelle has it turned over Charger ball Derwin James
Speaker 1: knocks it out. We know that voice Matt money Smith
Speaker 1: k f I with the call. Isaac Rischelle's interception was
Speaker 1: the ruling on that with less than three minutes to
Speaker 1: play was the decider. The turnover that helps security Chargers
Speaker 1: win over the forty nine is playing their first game
Speaker 1: without Jimmy Garoppolo. Wes Rochelle made the big play, but
Speaker 1: another l A defender caught your eye in this one,
Speaker 1: Derwin James. There's no safety currently in the NFL who
Speaker 1: plays like him. You have to go back to Troy
Speaker 1: Paula Malo to see a safety this disruptive at the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, and Derwin James might be even more
Speaker 1: disruptive at the line of scrimmage than Troy Polamalo. This
Speaker 1: guy is in the backfield constantly every single game the
Speaker 1: Chargers play. I tuned. I tuned in about the second
Speaker 1: quarter and immediately saw him hit the quarterback Batta pass
Speaker 1: sacked the quarterback, and then late in this game, another
Speaker 1: hit on beth or caused caused that um interception by Rochelle.
Speaker 1: But Derwin James was the star of the game. And
Speaker 1: give give a hand to these Chargers running backs. Melvin
Speaker 1: Gordon and Austin Ekeler are averaging two hundred and six
Speaker 1: point five yards per game and one point seven five
Speaker 1: tds per game. Compare that too, Ingram and Kamara had
Speaker 1: about a hundred ninety yards per game last year and
Speaker 1: in a touchdown and a half. The Tevin Coleman DeVonta
Speaker 1: Freeman backfield the year before that had about a hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty five yards per game and a touchdown and
Speaker 1: a half. So Gordon and Ekeler, the season is still young,
Speaker 1: but they are on a record pace right now. They're
Speaker 1: going against the NFL norm right now where the tight
Speaker 1: You know, the Titans don't have any running game and
Speaker 1: they're scoring thirty five points. The Colts same with him.
Speaker 1: All these teams are doing it with almost no running well,
Speaker 1: and the Charges are in old school. The Charges are
Speaker 1: going most of it through the air. With Gordon and Neckler,
Speaker 1: I mean Gordon had a hundred yard game, but most
Speaker 1: of their damage this year has been through the air.
Speaker 1: And and for the forty Niners, I thought Bethard played alright.
Speaker 1: The one note I have on him, and this goes
Speaker 1: back to last year. Every time I watch this guy play,
Speaker 1: I admire his toughness and think there's no way he's
Speaker 1: lasted more than a month with all the unnecessary hits
Speaker 1: he takes. He will sit in the pocket and take
Speaker 1: your best shot before he releases the boat every time.
Speaker 1: But he just keeps getting hit over and over again.
Speaker 1: You don't want that kind of curt You know what else?
Speaker 1: I don't want Caleb Sturgis on my team. Let's let's
Speaker 1: keep it real here, miss the field goal, missed two
Speaker 1: extra points, over two on extra points, Robbie Aguayo, It's
Speaker 1: time to dig him up and get him on the fielder,
Speaker 1: at least bringing some kickers, because again, week after week
Speaker 1: after week, the Chargers get undermined by their kicking. That's
Speaker 1: that's true, and you never want to see a kicker.
Speaker 1: Missed two extra points, but he did hit some field
Speaker 1: goals down the stretch. They were shorter field goals, but
Speaker 1: at least he hit him. But I got ye. Your
Speaker 1: point is, well, take special teams are still an issue
Speaker 1: with this team, and it's not just the kicker. I
Speaker 1: think the teams that passed on Derwin James that badly
Speaker 1: needed safeties. The Bucks come to mind. I gotta figure
Speaker 1: out havens come to mind to fit the Bills, the mind,
Speaker 1: the Ravens, the Raiders, the Bucks. Yet all those teams,
Speaker 1: and that was one of those on drafted where all
Speaker 1: the fans are like, why are you taking Derwin jameson?
Speaker 1: For once? By the way, on NFL dot Com about
Speaker 1: a month ago, someone in this room list of Derwin
Speaker 1: James is the Rookie of the year candidate was Greg
Speaker 1: Dan or West. It might have been West, might have
Speaker 1: been Greg, but I know I know what person did
Speaker 1: just it wasn't Eric either. We did West? Just go
Speaker 1: third person? Mark he was He was number one on
Speaker 1: All right, well, that will be fine. We'll move on.
Speaker 1: That did not go well, Erica and offen tide. Hay,
Speaker 1: he's got a big hold. He's to the thirty five
Speaker 1: to thirty tone to the five touchdown Alan Camara forty
Speaker 1: nine yards and that'll do it. From here in New York,
Speaker 1: New Jersey, Zack Street w w L with the call.
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara ran for three second half touchdowns and that
Speaker 1: dormant Saints defense finally showed up an oppressive thirty three
Speaker 1: eight team win over the Giants at MetLife Stadium. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, g Man let me down, eating a big
Speaker 1: old L. This is why you're upset about because that
Speaker 1: took another L. No, it is all about your decision
Speaker 1: making west my decision knowing that I got behind the
Speaker 1: team that wasn't a heavy favorite, but I thought they
Speaker 1: had a chance. Should have stuck with my texts. Well
Speaker 1: getting behind a winner. But well, then pick the Patriots
Speaker 1: every week. Do that, I'll pick take the trophy home.
Speaker 1: I'll pick the right matchup every week against an undefeat
Speaker 1: the team. I know when you look in the mirror,
Speaker 1: you see ghosts. I see let's see four and oh baby,
Speaker 1: will let's um hit four field goals for the Saints.
Speaker 1: Early they were knocking on the door time and time again,
Speaker 1: and they were struggling in the red zone. The Saints were,
Speaker 1: and you were thinking that would come back to haunt
Speaker 1: them because the Giants would eventually start racking up yards
Speaker 1: because the Saints been getting killed, especially on chunk plays.
Speaker 1: But something odd happened, or maybe not odd. Maybe there
Speaker 1: is an explanation. And Tony Romo, who called the game
Speaker 1: um or did the color for this game, pointed it
Speaker 1: out in the fourth quarter that the way to beat
Speaker 1: the Saints defense early on the season is attack them
Speaker 1: downfield and they don't have an answer. But the Giants
Speaker 1: offensive line is in such a state that they can't
Speaker 1: even do that. So when they're down in this game, uh,
Speaker 1: sixteen points early in the fourth quarter and they need
Speaker 1: a quick score to get this game under control and
Speaker 1: have a chance, they can't even attack with downfilled passing
Speaker 1: because every time Eli takes a snap, he drops back
Speaker 1: and there's somebody in his face. So that's a major
Speaker 1: issue for the Giants still, even they were a lot
Speaker 1: better last week obviously, uh, when they got got things
Speaker 1: together and got their first win, But that is still
Speaker 1: something that's an issue with this team. But give the
Speaker 1: Saints credit because they not only did find a way
Speaker 1: to slow down an offense that looked really good last week,
Speaker 1: they were able to close this game out. And I
Speaker 1: know that, Um, they're getting your boy mark Ingram back
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler next week. But Alvin Kamarah is fine all
Speaker 1: on his own because he is just an ass kicker,
Speaker 1: and he put this game away the biggest drive of
Speaker 1: the game. In fact, the Giants had um cut the
Speaker 1: game to one score eight points and the Saints took
Speaker 1: over fourteen play seventy four yard drive that covers almost
Speaker 1: seventeen minutes, chewing up almost half the fourth quarter, took control. Uh,
Speaker 1: and then the play you heard there, Kamara putting it
Speaker 1: away with a long run. So a nice a nice
Speaker 1: victory for the Saints who needed it. Dan, where are you?
Speaker 1: You're sort of a closet Giants fan? I would say,
Speaker 1: you're not really? Uh, Okay, well you are. There's something
Speaker 1: about you and the Giants that is linked. Where are
Speaker 1: you with the Pat Shermer experience at this point? Because
Speaker 1: some of these Giants games feel a lot like Pat
Speaker 1: Schremer's first coaching stint in Cleveland. To me, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't really have a strong opinion, to be honest
Speaker 1: with you, Mark, What I can say is that Pat
Speaker 1: Shermer took over a team that has a horrendous offensive
Speaker 1: line and an aging quarterback who doesn't move too well,
Speaker 1: and uh, this is proving to be highly detrimental to
Speaker 1: their success in you can like, you can say that
Speaker 1: they can't protect against the Saints, and I get that that,
Speaker 1: but the Saints have a bad pass rush. And I
Speaker 1: looked in the fourth quarter of this game, and the
Speaker 1: and the Giants didn't have a passing play over eleven yards,
Speaker 1: like you have to try, like you I don't, I
Speaker 1: don't know. You have to take shots. You just have
Speaker 1: to give it it try. Like for instance, their pass
Speaker 1: blocking for whatever it's worth, rated out as as like
Speaker 1: a positive plus today for Pro Football Focus. I don't
Speaker 1: think they've been as bad in previous years. And either way,
Speaker 1: you have to give it a shot. C J. Beathard's
Speaker 1: taking those shots. Eli Manning's not. Well, we'll see. It
Speaker 1: is interesting watching Odell Beckham, who for most of this
Speaker 1: game was catching balls within about two yards of the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, seems like a wasteful use of the
Speaker 1: game's most talented mode receiver. Saints might be the biggest
Speaker 1: climber up Mount ever this week. I mean, Camara is
Speaker 1: ann got to get you got set up there? You
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Speaker 1: a power rankings of sorts that are called Mount Everett
Speaker 1: and the Saints are making their move. We are are
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Speaker 1: We are constantly working through our issues on this show.
Speaker 1: A hundred and eighty one yards from scrimmage. He's up
Speaker 1: to five hundred and eleven. He is an alien. On
Speaker 1: the week that Alvin Camara and the week that you know,
Speaker 1: the Carter five came came out, I feel like he's
Speaker 1: the NFL equivalent to Little Wayne There right't there's no
Speaker 1: one like him. He's an alien, Greg Squeez and he
Speaker 1: he does. He likes authon camera. Do you like the
Speaker 1: Carter five? Oh yeah, you're in the other night now,
Speaker 1: this is I mean, it's twenty three songs, so you
Speaker 1: maybe have to make your own little twelve song version
Speaker 1: of it. But oh yeah, it's Did you have the
Speaker 1: colored flames out? Oh? We had magic flames out? Beautiful?
Speaker 1: We had some casualties passed out in the grass for
Speaker 1: a while. I heard there was the rare person passed
Speaker 1: out while the sun was still up with that's confirmed.
Speaker 1: She had rallied and was back back in the mix.
Speaker 1: By the time I was in. She had a She
Speaker 1: had a tremendously impressive second win after being out for
Speaker 1: three hours shot with I mean, how often do you
Speaker 1: find like just a female passed out in your yard
Speaker 1: and then way in this fashion. It was disquieting that
Speaker 1: that yeah, in fact, never greg that happened before her
Speaker 1: arrival at my house. I was busy cooking dinner while
Speaker 1: this was all going. Did anybody make sure that her
Speaker 1: air passage was clear? Yes? I. I outfitted her with
Speaker 1: a blanket and checked on her several times. West was
Speaker 1: a very caring in his but you knew she was
Speaker 1: breathing because you said she was snoring like oh, like lumber.
Speaker 1: I gotta get her on the show. Was impressive. Let's
Speaker 1: move on from fifty to Michael Dixon puts it down.
Speaker 1: The kick has got legs, it is there. Sebasti jannet
Speaker 1: dicks it through. The Seahawks win on the last playing
Speaker 1: the game. I love it, Steve Rabel, all right, oh
Speaker 1: with the call. Sebastian Janetkowski, who had missed two kicks
Speaker 1: earlier in this game, knocked through the fifty two yarders
Speaker 1: time expired, giving the Seattle Seahawks seventeen win over the Cardinals. Uh.
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen was making his first start for the Cards,
Speaker 1: could not get a w but showed some signs. The
Speaker 1: Seahawks um are now two and two, but the victory
Speaker 1: comes at a brutal cost. Greg. Yeah, Earl Thomas had
Speaker 1: a fracture in his lower leg. Late in the game.
Speaker 1: He was carted off the field. He was famously, as
Speaker 1: everyone listening to this probably already knows by now, seeing
Speaker 1: uh flashing a middle finger. No confirmation exactly, look at
Speaker 1: the bird towards the Seahawks, you know, sideline, But no
Speaker 1: one knows exactly who was at or what was going on.
Speaker 1: It did come after a long emotional period where both
Speaker 1: teams kneeled around him. Everyone knew right away how serious
Speaker 1: this was. Pete Carroll came over and talked to him,
Speaker 1: and he was understandably distraught. And this, you know, it
Speaker 1: was his worst nightmare. I mean, it came on a
Speaker 1: touchdown throw. It was just it was just a bad moment.
Speaker 1: And then twenty minutes later, here are the Seahawks two
Speaker 1: and two. Despite this ugly start that they've had, they're
Speaker 1: kind of in fine shape. I'm sorry, I'm looking to
Speaker 1: see what the injury was last year? Was that the
Speaker 1: same injury? Did? I think that was a nice traumatic pass?
Speaker 1: I was the longest wreck, the longest just silence we've
Speaker 1: had on this show in a while. I was doing
Speaker 1: some work behind the scenes to keep the show moving,
Speaker 1: so I wasn't ready to jump in. Mark's got his
Speaker 1: leg up. He checked out about fifty minutes. I thought that.
Speaker 1: I thought that was definitely a toss to West type moments,
Speaker 1: so I was gonna let West go there. Let me
Speaker 1: let me give a little more context, uh for this game,
Speaker 1: Phil Dawson, I think I don't think you mentioned this.
Speaker 1: He missed the forty five yard or that would have
Speaker 1: given Arizona the lead with one minute fifty seconds to play.
Speaker 1: There now oh four. And Josh Rosen greg who started
Speaker 1: very slowly in this game, um did seem to show
Speaker 1: some things in the second half. Yeah, he his best
Speaker 1: four throws were all in the fourth quarter. He moved
Speaker 1: the ball on a couple of drives. They were down
Speaker 1: seventeen to ten. He had he tied up the game
Speaker 1: with some dimes, and then he set up what should
Speaker 1: have been the go ahead score. But instead of being aggressive,
Speaker 1: Mike McCoy and Steve Wilkes, who are on my radar,
Speaker 1: just called three straight eight runs, including on third and six,
Speaker 1: to set up a forty five year old a forty
Speaker 1: five yard field goal. And maybe that was a slip
Speaker 1: of the tongue because Phil Dawson is about forty five
Speaker 1: years old. He had missed the kick earlier in the game.
Speaker 1: And I hate this kind of coaching, and I hate
Speaker 1: that Pete Carroll did the exact same thing a couple
Speaker 1: of minutes later. Carol got away with it. Sea Bass
Speaker 1: that wouldn't miss a couple of kicks, nailed one and
Speaker 1: made him look better. But this insanely conservative play calling
Speaker 1: of running and not trying to get closer for field goals.
Speaker 1: McCoy and Carol, they made me sick. It's two thousand
Speaker 1: and eighteen. Wake up, You're getting passed by all these
Speaker 1: offensive teams. Sea Bass in a Seahawks uniform is one
Speaker 1: of the most bizarre things about this I was confused
Speaker 1: when that highlight came up because I was like, heait,
Speaker 1: what game is that? It's borderline Jerry Rice and a
Speaker 1: Broncos uniform. I thought, honestly, I forgot they signed him,
Speaker 1: and I thought an offensive lineman was coming into kick
Speaker 1: last week when I saw him, he needs to go up.
Speaker 1: It's jarring. You think he's gotta go. You think a
Speaker 1: little it's a little build. It's like a sausage case there.
Speaker 1: But but I did I was encouraged by Rosen. I'm
Speaker 1: not encouraged by the Seahawks just seemed a little too
Speaker 1: happy to whenever they would take a small lead in
Speaker 1: this game that to just get the game was over.
Speaker 1: Cardinals owned four for the first time since nineteen eighties six.
Speaker 1: They are gonna be picking in the top three. They're
Speaker 1: bad in April, and that takes us to Sunday Night football.
Speaker 1: Black O, umfy down the right shot, Wine upen is
Speaker 1: John Brown for the touchdown, and here we go. I
Speaker 1: don't know if we're getting a shootout or not, but
Speaker 1: we're off to a fast start. We did not get
Speaker 1: a shootout, but Joe Flacco and John Brown got the
Speaker 1: Ravens off to a very hot start, a fourteen nothing lead.
Speaker 1: Uh in the first quarter. The Steelers came back, made
Speaker 1: a game of it. We went into the third quarter tied,
Speaker 1: but then Justin Tucker did his thing and the Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: Steelers often sputtered again for the second straight weeks. Shut
Speaker 1: out in the second half to fourteen win for the
Speaker 1: Ravens over the Steeler as you dropped a one, two
Speaker 1: and one. Mark Sessler. Tough day for the Browns, but
Speaker 1: whenever you see Big Ben and the Steelers get beaten up.
Speaker 1: It's a good night, isn't it. I'm really I'd be
Speaker 1: really concerned about the Steelers if I'm within a thousand
Speaker 1: miles of Pittsburgh right now. Forty seven yards or so
Speaker 1: in the second half, the team completely went to sleep.
Speaker 1: At least in the past, even when Pittsburgh's defense would
Speaker 1: would be up and down, and it's been a very
Speaker 1: sloppy affair all season so far. You could count on
Speaker 1: this offense, especially in a Ravens game, to find a
Speaker 1: way to make it tight at the end in Baltimore
Speaker 1: dominated them over the final thirty minutes. It's another performance
Speaker 1: by the Ravens that I think just points to them
Speaker 1: as an overt uh favorite in the a f C,
Speaker 1: a playoff type team that could go as far as
Speaker 1: anyone could imagine. In this game would have been an
Speaker 1: even bigger bow if Alex Collins hadn't fumbled the ball
Speaker 1: on the goal line. It's it's great when the team
Speaker 1: that's clearly better wins the game. And for the most
Speaker 1: of this game, the Ravens look like the better team,
Speaker 1: and I don't know what they're doing exactly at halftime
Speaker 1: on defense, you know, Wink Martindale deserves some credit, uh
Speaker 1: their coordinator that they haven't given up a touchdown in
Speaker 1: four games because they just were lights out and they're
Speaker 1: a defense where you're looking for individual players that are
Speaker 1: kind of standing out to talk about, and they're not
Speaker 1: really that defense there a the sum is greater than
Speaker 1: the whole, is greater than the sum of its parts.
Speaker 1: Marlon Humphrey is one player at cornerback that's been standing
Speaker 1: out this year, but other than that, it's just a
Speaker 1: deep group that gets after you. Rookie linebacker Kenny Young
Speaker 1: has been really good. I think you look at the Jags, Bears, Redskins, Rams,
Speaker 1: and Ravens. Is the top five defenses in the NFL
Speaker 1: right now, and the Ravens have the best kicker in
Speaker 1: the NFL. They've got a quarterback who will be somewhere
Speaker 1: on the periphery or around the last, around the nine
Speaker 1: ten area in my top ten MVP candidates, Mama Mia,
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco is off to the best start since his
Speaker 1: two thousand twelve Super Bowl season. He looks good. John
Speaker 1: Brown looks good. Okay, this might be I don't think
Speaker 1: this is going out a limb. This might be the
Speaker 1: most balanced, well rounded a FC team right now. Joe
Speaker 1: Flacco two three sixty two touchdowns. That is the most
Speaker 1: yards he's ever thrown against the Steelers. And on the
Speaker 1: other side, you know Levy on Bell there now the
Speaker 1: report is that there the Steelers are actively trying to
Speaker 1: move him into trade but they they're they've been unable
Speaker 1: to find a suitor. Well, I'm wondering, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: sports talk radio UM in Pittsburgh it's gonna start getting
Speaker 1: louder the drum beat to get this guy in the
Speaker 1: building because they need help and Ben Roethlisberger has not
Speaker 1: been able to carry this team. Uh and James Conner
Speaker 1: in this game nine carries nineteen yards. They seem to
Speaker 1: be missing something. Is it Levy on Bell? What can
Speaker 1: they do to get him in the building? That would
Speaker 1: be my I mean, I don't think they can locker
Speaker 1: room on him in the building. I think they I
Speaker 1: think they'd be happy to have him. But you're right West,
Speaker 1: they're not giving him a contract extension, So there's there's
Speaker 1: in They totally changed their stance on that. They're just
Speaker 1: waiting for him. And this is two out of the
Speaker 1: last three games James Conner has been held under twenty
Speaker 1: yards rushing. He's not the problem. He's catching passes. It's
Speaker 1: just the whole offense in general has disjointed. Antonio Brown's
Speaker 1: not quite been himself. Certainly make him in the locker
Speaker 1: room tonight. And we did ask I we asked the
Speaker 1: question going into the season. Was Ben Ben finished last
Speaker 1: season strong but it was an up and down year?
Speaker 1: Was that a sign of some slippage? And so far
Speaker 1: this year he hasn't played as as well as you
Speaker 1: would expect him to. The problems some problems in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: Did they get it straight down right? Now? They're tied
Speaker 1: with the Browns at the bottom of the n f
Speaker 1: C North. So the Baltimore Ravens three and one looking feisty,
Speaker 1: the Steelers in trouble. Uh, there's one more game on
Speaker 1: the week four schedule. Uh. That is the chief with
Speaker 1: you guys, Thank you um and you will hear us
Speaker 1: recap that game the next time we're all together in
Speaker 1: this room. That is our Tuesday a t n Twitter
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