Speaker 1: Wipe the single back behind Brady who's under center. He
Speaker 1: screams a lot to catch made five patter who cuts
Speaker 1: into the end zone. Touchdown Patriots. Street of the right,
Speaker 1: Brady takes us down and he throws the left for
Speaker 1: a wide up and wide who ties into the end zone.
Speaker 1: Touchdown Patriots. A first intent from the foul thirty four
Speaker 1: Brady with a Placebaker. Michelle stands the punk, daunting wife
Speaker 1: sliding back down, directing traffic. A lot of time to
Speaker 1: launch a long hierarchy past of the end zone. Come
Speaker 1: morning him and right so in the end zone, touchdown, Patriots.
Speaker 1: So sexy FlashCore hundred in the regular season career, uh sexy.
Speaker 1: Thursday Night victory for the New England Patriots thirty eight
Speaker 1: to twenty four over the game Indianapolis Colts, who put
Speaker 1: up quite a fight considering they were down about ten
Speaker 1: starters in the game. I'm Greg Rosenthal, I've got Chris
Speaker 1: Westling with me. We're gonna get to Dan Hands and
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler in preview all the week five games in
Speaker 1: just a minute. But let's start with Brady to Gordon,
Speaker 1: Chris westleying, are you feeling better about the Patriots offense
Speaker 1: after the last couple of weeks. Yeah, I wouldn't say
Speaker 1: it's because of Josh Gordon, but the way they came
Speaker 1: out with Julian Edelman and that chain moving methodical you know,
Speaker 1: just bully your way down the field or you know,
Speaker 1: however Tom Brady's been doing it for the last ever
Speaker 1: many years. They look like the same offense. You know,
Speaker 1: on that first drive and then you know the George
Speaker 1: the Gordon things. Just a great play and bad defense.
Speaker 1: I'm not ringing too much into that. Well, he he
Speaker 1: did a great job. Just the athleticism if you watch
Speaker 1: him coming back for the ball and even the cut
Speaker 1: that he made, uh to peel off to to kind
Speaker 1: of get open for Brady. It gives you some indication
Speaker 1: of what he could do in the future. But you know,
Speaker 1: as a Patriots backer, you do see some identities starting
Speaker 1: to form in them figuring out Number one, they've got
Speaker 1: a really good interior offensive line. They're blowing open holes
Speaker 1: in the running game. That definitely huge. It's helped Sony
Speaker 1: Michelle a ton of the last couple of weeks. And
Speaker 1: then they have a lot of guys who are run
Speaker 1: after catch guys, uh, Philip dor set, you know, when
Speaker 1: when he gets the ball, Gordon can be that Eventually,
Speaker 1: Julian Edelman looked like Julian Edelman tonight looked very strong.
Speaker 1: James White is gonna be a huge part of the offense,
Speaker 1: and it's a lot of guys can get the ball
Speaker 1: too quickly. Brady gets the ball out of his hands
Speaker 1: and they can make some plays and they're starting to
Speaker 1: kind of figure out what it is that they do well.
Speaker 1: I was happy to hear Troy Aigman say early in
Speaker 1: the game that Brady came to James White and said,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to lean on you more because I
Speaker 1: feel like he's been underutilized going back to last year
Speaker 1: that they toy around with Rex birkeheads and Dion Lewis's
Speaker 1: and all these other guys, and it's like, yeah, but
Speaker 1: James White has always been your passing down. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: they don't have any choice now. Sony Michelle is getting
Speaker 1: a ton of work and James White's gonna get a
Speaker 1: ton of work, and that's just the way it's gonna
Speaker 1: be moving forward. With that said, you know, the Patriots
Speaker 1: were extremely lucky in this game to catch the Colts,
Speaker 1: uh who were down five starters going into the game, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, three on offense, two on defense, and then
Speaker 1: lost a handful more during the game on four days
Speaker 1: rest on the road. It could have been an even
Speaker 1: bigger blowout if not for the two interceptions from Brady
Speaker 1: that we're both dropped by the Patriots. But once again,
Speaker 1: we've talked about a year, the Cults have been pretty
Speaker 1: impressive in terms of how scrappy they are really on
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. And even though they're one
Speaker 1: and four, if I'm a Cults fan, I'm feeling good
Speaker 1: because Andrew Luck looks like Andrew Luck again. But by
Speaker 1: my count, they lost eight starters on defense by the
Speaker 1: end of this game, right, so it was ridiculous. And
Speaker 1: then and had no quit in them, And to me,
Speaker 1: they put forth more effort with and this wasn't a
Speaker 1: fair fight. They were playing with one hand tied behind
Speaker 1: their back and still put up more of an effort
Speaker 1: than some of their previous iterations, which just bowed to
Speaker 1: the cool and I think Andrew Luck is a huge
Speaker 1: part of that. You saw the emotion when the Cults
Speaker 1: intercepted a pass from Brady that kept at a fourteen
Speaker 1: point game and luck is going crazy on the sideline
Speaker 1: and getting everyone else excited like he is loving playing football.
Speaker 1: And and even though his arm uh is getting better
Speaker 1: every week, and maybe it's not the cannon that it
Speaker 1: used to be, it's obviously he trusted so much more
Speaker 1: the last two weeks than he did the first two weeks.
Speaker 1: But the thing I was gonna say was, Okay, the
Speaker 1: arms getting better, but you know what doesn't changes, like
Speaker 1: his feel of the game of football, and his intelligence
Speaker 1: and his leader all that stuff. I think it's been
Speaker 1: there in the pocket right, That's all there, and that
Speaker 1: to me is a great sign. I think the coaching
Speaker 1: staff for the Cults is so much better. You are
Speaker 1: not what your record says you are all the time.
Speaker 1: They're much better than one and four. In long term,
Speaker 1: if I'm a Colts fan, I think they might have
Speaker 1: a shot in some of these Cults Pats games in
Speaker 1: the future. Even if he's still getting his arm strength
Speaker 1: back a little bit like he he seems more precise
Speaker 1: to me, even when we are questioning the the arm
Speaker 1: strength early on, he's been accurate. And some of those
Speaker 1: passed this tonight. We're just gorgeous. Um. If I'm a
Speaker 1: cool saying I'm feeling pretty good because nobody expected them
Speaker 1: to be a contender this year. So, like you said,
Speaker 1: the positive signs are there. They were, they're they're still undermanned.
Speaker 1: The way they go with their backfield every week against
Speaker 1: actual running back. Yeah, it's rough and and they protected
Speaker 1: luckwell tonight, which I think is a little bit of
Speaker 1: a red flag for the Patriots defense who just does
Speaker 1: not go ahead, have what a hude passing attempts in
Speaker 1: five days? That has to be a record. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: his arm is it wasn't you know, sore or tired
Speaker 1: before these two games back to back. Uh, it's gotta
Speaker 1: be now, So I wouldn't say all is fixed in
Speaker 1: New England. They got a big game next week against
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, but they're certainly looking to be in much
Speaker 1: better shape. And right back in the mix, let's talk
Speaker 1: uh West with our buddies about a great Week five slate.
Speaker 1: There are some there are some bangers on this schedule,
Speaker 1: and I want to talk about them. So let's send
Speaker 1: it over to Daniel Handzu is be around the NFL podcast,
Speaker 1: is sneaky bad at everything? We welcome back. I was
Speaker 1: a little on the notes to another edition of the
Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansus, and
Speaker 1: I'm joining the room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling,
Speaker 1: and Greg Rosenthal. What is up boys? Hey? Dan, Hey,
Speaker 1: Chris Sneaky bad at being bad at podcasting. I turned
Speaker 1: that right around on that little double negative for you.
Speaker 1: Grammar works. Matt money Smith learned classic sssler. Alright, great, um,
Speaker 1: great times. Uh. This week on the Around the NFL Podcast,
Speaker 1: we hope you're following along where Now this is our
Speaker 1: third ep of the week. We have the Tuesday Twitter show,
Speaker 1: which again you could catch up on any time you want.
Speaker 1: Uh and uh. And now this is our Thursday preview show.
Speaker 1: You heard at the top of the show, of course,
Speaker 1: just a dynamite dynamite recap of Colts Patriots by h
Speaker 1: Wes and Greg. I really liked what you guys did
Speaker 1: with that, and now we're gonna it was good. Thanks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and now I would like to spread my wings recaps.
Speaker 1: I'll be on my way to Tobby by the time
Speaker 1: anybody hears this. Oh what you got going on there,
Speaker 1: which is Keisha and I are just going for about
Speaker 1: forty hours to go down and check out some wedding
Speaker 1: stuff and then fly back in time for Sunday's games.
Speaker 1: Weddings in May, right, weddings in May. We got to
Speaker 1: find a venue. We have to check. By the way,
Speaker 1: other wedding things like a major spidy sense on a
Speaker 1: massively delayed plane on the way back and West doesn't
Speaker 1: get here until about Tuesday. Streets are talking, by the
Speaker 1: way on David eally Um and his chances to be
Speaker 1: best Man, which we've talked about on this podcast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's just say, I feel like the odds have been
Speaker 1: going up and up in a certain you know, there
Speaker 1: there was another you know, there's a question whether he's
Speaker 1: going to be there at all. Let's just put it.
Speaker 1: You've been cleaning to that. No, Wes, who would have
Speaker 1: a better shot of being your best not be a
Speaker 1: big wedding David really or loose Cannon Louise Cannon. No.
Speaker 1: There there's major issues going on downstairs with Italy and
Speaker 1: his team, and that's trickled down to you guys as well.
Speaker 1: And I think Dave before he's the best man, needs
Speaker 1: to get his own ship under control. He needs to
Speaker 1: be the best boss. Oh, he's an excellent Let's check
Speaker 1: in with David. Next, you got don't don't take it halfway?
Speaker 1: Come on in London. We did some bonding in London.
Speaker 1: You know she's it's hard for say, Eric is raced
Speaker 1: into the standings here. Yeah, I would wear a tucks
Speaker 1: for us. Thank you love that. We'll get really on
Speaker 1: next week, maybe to just to see where he's at,
Speaker 1: because it was took quite a lot of fire just now.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go each through each of the week five games,
Speaker 1: and why don't we get it going? And why don't
Speaker 1: we start with a a f C affair? And I
Speaker 1: was fell into the trap there. Shoot, it's gonna come
Speaker 1: up soon enough. Let's see if I have any inter
Speaker 1: situations going on this week. We should have. We got
Speaker 1: what coming up a little later, so we'll see how
Speaker 1: it goes. The Tennessee Titans, some people call them the Tittoons,
Speaker 1: some people call him Titans. One thing you have to
Speaker 1: call him is a winner of three straight games, each
Speaker 1: of those wins coming by three points. Now they travel
Speaker 1: to Buffalo to face the Bills, who, with the exception
Speaker 1: of one shining effort in Minneapolis in Week three, have
Speaker 1: looked like the worst team in the NFL. Would certainly
Speaker 1: make that argument. So here we go. Mark Sessler, Titans
Speaker 1: a chance to stack another W before a major showdown
Speaker 1: with the Ravens in Week six. Yes Sunday Night, West
Speaker 1: told me, you have to watch Titans Eagles on game pass,
Speaker 1: and I did follow that advice because when West likes
Speaker 1: the game on game pass, it does not disappoint. And
Speaker 1: I think this Titans team is so completely different than
Speaker 1: Titans teams have old and the whole Tytoons thing at
Speaker 1: this point does not apply. Two things I really liked
Speaker 1: about the Eagles game. One, I thought they got great
Speaker 1: pressure up the it all against Carson Wentz and then
Speaker 1: you weren't It wasn't just Lyneman. They were using Malcolm
Speaker 1: Butler got in Winz his face. That was fantastic. And
Speaker 1: I thought that the way that they dealt with overtime,
Speaker 1: fourth down conversion after fourth down conversion of Mariota made
Speaker 1: that one huge money throw to keep the drive alive.
Speaker 1: I got after he put the throw on the money
Speaker 1: for a bomb to Darius Jennings that he just dropped
Speaker 1: up and he came back and still converted all those
Speaker 1: four so resilient. The only one thing that concerned me
Speaker 1: a little bit and I don't know if it's a
Speaker 1: week to week thing, but I sometimes feel like their
Speaker 1: best runner is Mariota and I don't see a running
Speaker 1: game that from quarter to quarter feels entirely sustainable. I
Speaker 1: think they can fix. Henry and Dean Lewis are both
Speaker 1: around three yards to carry um. That Jack Conklin back
Speaker 1: their right tackle should help. That should help my my
Speaker 1: concern with the Titans. And this is a little bit
Speaker 1: of a trap game. By the way. You're going to
Speaker 1: Buffalo and you got the Ravens next weekend. You're coming
Speaker 1: off a big game against it is, But signed me
Speaker 1: up for a trap game against Yeah, no, no, I
Speaker 1: hear you on that. But there are two things that
Speaker 1: point out. Yes, the running game is uh heavily reliant
Speaker 1: right now in the quarterback and quarterback whose struggles to
Speaker 1: stay healthy. The only have on the defense, which has
Speaker 1: been very good this season. But keep in mind there
Speaker 1: their red zone defense is not only been the best
Speaker 1: in the league this year, and you don't take anything away, uh,
Speaker 1: just of red zone trips with the opposition has led
Speaker 1: to a touchdown. If they kept that pace up, that
Speaker 1: would be the best percentage since two thousand when they
Speaker 1: start tracking these things. Is that sustainable or we do
Speaker 1: for aggression to the mean, and it's a team that's
Speaker 1: winning every week by three points, that would be devastating. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't have a lot of margin for air. They
Speaker 1: have things to be excited about, like their rookie Harold Landry.
Speaker 1: But the one thing is Bill belichick defenses are often among,
Speaker 1: if not the tops, in the red zone because they
Speaker 1: give up a ton of yards. They don't give up
Speaker 1: a ton of points. That's gonna be Mike Rabel's philosophy
Speaker 1: is is you let them move the ball a little bit,
Speaker 1: but you keep them low on the scoreboard. They've been
Speaker 1: doing that and that one game. I might have said
Speaker 1: it Sunday night, but that changed my mind on a
Speaker 1: team and a player more than any game all season
Speaker 1: in that now I see that as a factor. I
Speaker 1: want to see Mario to do it again because it
Speaker 1: was one game. But now I I think just the
Speaker 1: a f C has wide open and it doesn't seem
Speaker 1: that crazy. One little thing. I know I probably alone
Speaker 1: in this one. I actually really like their new uniforms.
Speaker 1: I do too. I like the home the road or
Speaker 1: fine the blue I find atrocious, but I don't know
Speaker 1: what it is. I just I'm drawn to them. Another
Speaker 1: thing this team has in its corner. They are feeling themselves,
Speaker 1: the energy, the way they're swarming, the way their sideline
Speaker 1: is getting fired up for every like effort play. And
Speaker 1: I think it comes from having so much confidence in
Speaker 1: their coaching staff. Players just want their staff to be
Speaker 1: smarter than the other team's staff, and so far this year,
Speaker 1: the Titans coaches have been and quickly. On the Bills,
Speaker 1: I think Josh Allen is gonna get thrown so many
Speaker 1: different looks because he clearly isn't gonna be ready to
Speaker 1: change out of plays right now. And you just see
Speaker 1: the Bills snap the ball on plays that they have
Speaker 1: no chances. Even if they had better personnel, they would
Speaker 1: have no chance to get get positive plays. And why
Speaker 1: isn't that going to happen this week? It should? Moving on,
Speaker 1: the New York Giants, coming off a disappointing home loss
Speaker 1: to the Saints, now travel to Carolina to face the Panthers.
Speaker 1: The Panthers, who ridiculously are coming off a bye week,
Speaker 1: uh for a game that's gonna be played on October seven,
Speaker 1: so there will be obviously fresh and they've had time
Speaker 1: to rest up for the Giants, all of it adds
Speaker 1: up to a tough task for the Gamon West. I
Speaker 1: liked what I saw of the Giants offense in UM
Speaker 1: week three and erroneously led me to believe that they
Speaker 1: might be breaking out. And then listen to these two
Speaker 1: quotes after Eli Manning. I'm watching that game and in
Speaker 1: the middle of the third quarter has not completed a
Speaker 1: pass longer than eleven yards. Odell Beckham is a little
Speaker 1: frustrated right now because Eli isn't throwing it to him deep.
Speaker 1: And Eli says, risks are not what you want to take.
Speaker 1: You throw the ball down the field when it's not risky,
Speaker 1: and then there's forcing things and that leads to turnovers,
Speaker 1: that leads to mistakes. That's one quote. Here's the other one.
Speaker 1: Here's Bill Smart Bill Parcels talking about old, washed up quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: They're torn between the turnover, which they don't want to
Speaker 1: make because it's a killer, and throwing the ball when
Speaker 1: the separation between the receiver and the defender isn't quite enough.
Speaker 1: They're not confident throwers like they were and then when
Speaker 1: they were younger. And Eli Manning he's sub tweeting Drew
Speaker 1: Bledsoe right there by the way. Since since the beginning
Speaker 1: of the two thousand sixteen season. This is going back
Speaker 1: three years now. The Gilliants of the worst offense in
Speaker 1: the NFL. They don't average more than sixteen points a game,
Speaker 1: and no quarterback, maybe no player I've ever seen his
Speaker 1: more excuses made for him constantly than Eliman his time
Speaker 1: to score more than thirty points in a game, and
Speaker 1: he might need to this wee because the Panther's offense
Speaker 1: is a better offense this year. The early returns on
Speaker 1: NORV Turner updating that offense a little bit, basically just
Speaker 1: getting rid of Mike Shula. I I'm liking what I'm
Speaker 1: seeing in terms of the play calling. This is a
Speaker 1: team that, even when their defense doesn't play as well,
Speaker 1: can put up some points. And I don't see why
Speaker 1: they wouldn't. And Luke Quickley, not that Luke Kickley needs
Speaker 1: any love, but he looks extra special this year so
Speaker 1: far through three weeks, and he'll be a terror shutting
Speaker 1: down stake one bar. It does feel like the Panthers
Speaker 1: have not played in about four months, but the last
Speaker 1: time we saw them they wiped out the Bengals defense
Speaker 1: with their ground game, and you are now playing a
Speaker 1: Giants team that ranks twenty nine on the ground and
Speaker 1: it looks that way sometimes when you're watching these teams
Speaker 1: go against the defense. I love this matchup for the
Speaker 1: Panthers and Dan, I do not love this week. Thank
Speaker 1: you for playing along. I in fact like the Panthers
Speaker 1: so much that I think the are gonna get wiped here.
Speaker 1: The Panthers are my confident lock of the week. I'm
Speaker 1: locking it up. It's a nice it's a it's it's
Speaker 1: a safe pick, and I feel like you're gonna get
Speaker 1: this one. I am one in three right now. I can.
Speaker 1: I gotta stop, you know, spinning the dice on totally
Speaker 1: absurd locks. By the way, West Hills, let's check in.
Speaker 1: And I know it's a bye week so he hasn't
Speaker 1: played four games yet, but North Turner over the summer,
Speaker 1: I see Cam as a guy that could be in
Speaker 1: the mid two high sixties as a completion percentage. Right now,
Speaker 1: Cam Newton sixty five point four. Things are looking up.
Speaker 1: It would be by far a career, mean, so is
Speaker 1: the whole league. But yeah, yeah, I mean, let's give
Speaker 1: it more than three games. So let's see what sixty
Speaker 1: seven point four. You're right, Chris Westling last year fifty
Speaker 1: nine point one. That would be quite a jump. Maybe
Speaker 1: could hold this very fun. You're you're really excited. Moving on,
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins and Cincinnati Bengals are squaring off. Uh.
Speaker 1: This is a Bengals team that is looking a lot better,
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal this season at three and one. Uh. They
Speaker 1: won that shootout with the Falcons last week. The Dolphins humbled,
Speaker 1: my goodness by the Patriots. Uh. Seems to set up
Speaker 1: well for Cincinnati to keep rolling your thoughts. It does.
Speaker 1: But the Bengals are a little banged up this week.
Speaker 1: Tyler Eiffer obviously is not coming back. John raw Us
Speaker 1: uh is injured. They're Uh, they've had injuries that are
Speaker 1: up in the air as we're talking about going into
Speaker 1: this game. Yet you don't really worry about their offense
Speaker 1: on a week to week basis right now. I know
Speaker 1: Mark is very excited about what Bill Laser's done this year,
Speaker 1: Your boy, Now I am. I mean we did a
Speaker 1: little game Pass special where we handed out some awards
Speaker 1: and I gave him my early lead for and I
Speaker 1: typically think offense more than defense for some reason. But
Speaker 1: I gave Bill Laser my Assistant Coach of the Year award,
Speaker 1: which is a very prestigious. Uh. That is a real
Speaker 1: NFL award for some of you that may not know that,
Speaker 1: that is an actual is voted up on. And Uh.
Speaker 1: The Bengals to me, I know was a surgey or
Speaker 1: for Andy Dalton. I think this offense to me, is
Speaker 1: the most fun Bengals offense that I've watched since working
Speaker 1: here in a long long time, certainly during Andy Dalton's career.
Speaker 1: It's not just based around A J. Green at this point,
Speaker 1: and they were spreading the ball around and Dalton to me,
Speaker 1: you know, two weeks ago, when they're couple still against
Speaker 1: the Panthers too, four picks, You're wondering if he's just
Speaker 1: gonna unwind and fall apart. Comes back against the Falcons
Speaker 1: last week and played one of the best games I've
Speaker 1: ever seen him play. You say, A J. Green's not
Speaker 1: the entire passing game. Tyler Boyd has more receptions in
Speaker 1: yards than Green. He ranks in the top twelve and
Speaker 1: both of those categories among wide receivers. Well, that's having
Speaker 1: a breakout. What a difference that at the end of
Speaker 1: that game and back to back fourth downs. What is
Speaker 1: the matchup that Andy Dalton ghost to. It's Tyler Boyd
Speaker 1: against Desmond Truffon, who's the top cornerback of the other team,
Speaker 1: and Boyd win both times, and they're scoring all these
Speaker 1: points without Joe Mixon. It looks like Joe Mixon is
Speaker 1: back this week, although they might lose Geo Bernard's so
Speaker 1: as long as he got one of those two guys healthy.
Speaker 1: Geo Bernard I think has shown he's one of the
Speaker 1: best backups in the entire league. So as long as
Speaker 1: one of those guys out there, they're fine. Why were
Speaker 1: the Dolphins so terrible last week? What changed? Other than
Speaker 1: the opponent? I think the opponent, I think it was
Speaker 1: it was it was a strange game defensively for the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: It was a bit of a flukey game. I also think,
Speaker 1: just game plan wise, for whatever reason, that the Belichick
Speaker 1: had Ryan Tannehill holding the ball forever and not knowing
Speaker 1: what he was seen dumping the ball off on third
Speaker 1: and long. I don't think this is some gimme game. Uh.
Speaker 1: For the Bengals, I don't get at all. I don't
Speaker 1: give them that respect yet. That. I'm just like lot,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just like assuming that they're gonna win
Speaker 1: a week after weeks. I don't think you're gonna get
Speaker 1: that Dolphins game from last week four or five more
Speaker 1: times this year. They're better than that. But I think
Speaker 1: there's this major psychological thing going on against the Patriots
Speaker 1: for all the other three teams in that division. And
Speaker 1: if you get down against New England's seventeen or nothing,
Speaker 1: which one of those three teams believes they're gonna come
Speaker 1: back and do anything, wasn't get wiped. It was a
Speaker 1: bit of a game plan game and like one busted
Speaker 1: coverage leads to the Cordoril Patterson a flukey turnover where
Speaker 1: Tannehill couldn't get the ball. But they also just offensively.
Speaker 1: That's more of my concern for the Dolphins. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure what they are. They are counting on Ryan Tannehill
Speaker 1: to hit like the two deep shots a game that
Speaker 1: he tries, and if he doesn't, they don't have much.
Speaker 1: And Drake's not playing Frank Corps playing more than Ken Drake,
Speaker 1: which is crazy. And they won the Raiders game because
Speaker 1: of you know, trick plays, because of Jackie Grant and
Speaker 1: Albert Wilson, and I don't know if you can count
Speaker 1: on that every week to be like the base of
Speaker 1: your offense. Let's move on. Uh. The Baltimore Ravens are
Speaker 1: three and one atop the a f C North and
Speaker 1: now they travel to Cleveland to face the Browns, who
Speaker 1: are coming off a very disappointing loss to the Raiders,
Speaker 1: a game they let get away. Didn't get any help,
Speaker 1: but from the game officials I got. I got some
Speaker 1: blowback Mark Sessler on um Twitter from people are saying,
Speaker 1: like all you guys cared about was what the Browns
Speaker 1: are getting dealt with. The Raiders got banged on. Some
Speaker 1: calls to in that game is earlier. Well, there was
Speaker 1: a lot that happened in that game, and that is fair.
Speaker 1: I saw some of that too. I think you know,
Speaker 1: we're probably we're obviously focused a little bit more on
Speaker 1: the Browns because of Mayfield, because of what's sort of
Speaker 1: happening with them in general. The Raiders. That game did
Speaker 1: not just come down to the Carlos Hide Spot and
Speaker 1: all that business. A lot the Browns had chances to
Speaker 1: win in other areas too, and the Raiders took care
Speaker 1: of their own business in overtime. You could feel that
Speaker 1: game was over the minute the Hyde spot did not
Speaker 1: go Cleveland's way. I loved what I heard from Hugh
Speaker 1: Jackson this week to get Nick Chubb more involved because
Speaker 1: I'm watching that game and he finds that extra gear
Speaker 1: when Gary on Conley has the angle on the first
Speaker 1: long run and then some of the jump cuts he
Speaker 1: made on the second long run. This guy needs to
Speaker 1: be a bigger part of the off Yeah, you look great.
Speaker 1: I mean the one that something that's consistently bit Cleveland
Speaker 1: every week and it's easy to kind of just whipped
Speaker 1: through it on game pass two is they have I think,
Speaker 1: hands down the worst special teams unit in football. It
Speaker 1: is a disaster. And it's not just the missfield goals.
Speaker 1: It is punt and kick returns that are creating good
Speaker 1: field position field team. The second thing is that Baker mayfild.
Speaker 1: I think all the risks, all the targets on this
Speaker 1: team are are getting used to Baker Mayfield's velocity versus
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor's. A couple of them mentioned that there are drops.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of drops against Yeah, so terrible drops.
Speaker 1: I mean, you want they got to correct that and
Speaker 1: they're playing a Ravens team that gives up two point
Speaker 1: three points per game in the second half and as
Speaker 1: the lowest in a good way passer rating for wide
Speaker 1: receivers have two points re points per game, and that's good.
Speaker 1: So this is a tough It's good that their home.
Speaker 1: But uh, and then the other side of the Ravens,
Speaker 1: I just want to point out, and I know we've
Speaker 1: talked about in this podcast, but again West wrote about
Speaker 1: it in his m VP breakdown, Joe Flacco was playing
Speaker 1: incredibly well right now, and it's what it's fun to
Speaker 1: kind of go back to the summer and and look
Speaker 1: at some of the kind of uh, the predictions and
Speaker 1: the you know, the takes and regurgitations of takes that
Speaker 1: then the season starts and everything goes to hell and
Speaker 1: everybody doesn't look so smart anymore. But with Joe Flacco,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of talk like Flacco looks great
Speaker 1: in camp, he looks motivated. Lark Jackson's on his tail,
Speaker 1: but he's gonna make sure he's gonna put some distance
Speaker 1: and he's done that. He looks I wouldn't say he's
Speaker 1: two thousand twelve Joe Flacco in the playoffs, but he's
Speaker 1: just as as well. He's throwing the ball downfield more,
Speaker 1: he's throwing the ball with accuracy downfield. He looks like
Speaker 1: a different guy. And how much does that have to
Speaker 1: do with his health, which there's no back in knee
Speaker 1: issues this year, but also that wide receiver group which
Speaker 1: has got completely remade. And I think you put those
Speaker 1: two things together and explains honously outside of Steve Smith,
Speaker 1: why why did it take them seven years to get
Speaker 1: a cast around Flacco to make him look better? And
Speaker 1: then with the fact he doesn't have a back And
Speaker 1: I mean they've tried, they've put resources in, they haven't chosen.
Speaker 1: Well this year they did. It's been one of the
Speaker 1: few weaknesses of Ozzy Knewsom that he loves old wide
Speaker 1: receivers who are usually a little washed and the ones,
Speaker 1: the ones that he chose this year not as old. Uh,
Speaker 1: they're kind of in the middle of their career, but
Speaker 1: all had questions about him and they're all hitting. Willie
Speaker 1: Snead is a huge addition for this team. I think
Speaker 1: the Saints kind of miss him, not that there offense
Speaker 1: is struggling, but I think they they wish probably he
Speaker 1: was on their team and Cameron Meredith was not. And
Speaker 1: I think the Ravens are gonna be even more dangerous
Speaker 1: because they get hated Hurst back this week who looked
Speaker 1: great in the preseason, and I think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a big factor for them at tight end. It's amazing
Speaker 1: to me they're playing this well and Alex Collins hasn't
Speaker 1: done anything yet. Yeah, they don't have much of it. Uh.
Speaker 1: Hated Hurst could be coming back for Baltimore of their
Speaker 1: first round pick, so that would be another weapon. And
Speaker 1: uh Cleveland could not do anything against tight ends in Oakland,
Speaker 1: so that that is a concern. But the Browns, you
Speaker 1: know what we're gonna see probably a fun game war
Speaker 1: for four. They could be four. No, they could be
Speaker 1: own four. But every game has been entertaining right down
Speaker 1: to the last drive. Let's move on the Green Bay
Speaker 1: Packers coming off that twenty two nothing win over the Bills.
Speaker 1: Uh in week four, now travel to Detroit to face
Speaker 1: the lines or one in three and uh, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's been a frustrating start for Matt Patricia and company.
Speaker 1: Chris Westling. Uh, now they get a Packers team and
Speaker 1: still trying to figure it out on offense, not only
Speaker 1: trying to figure it out, but might be starting three
Speaker 1: different rookies at wide receiver this week. Randall Cobb has
Speaker 1: a hamstring injury, Geronimo Allison is concussed, and Davante Adams
Speaker 1: came down with a calf injury that forced him to
Speaker 1: miss Thursday's practice. They might be starting Marquez Valdes, Scantling,
Speaker 1: Jimmon Moore, and Equanimius st Brown as their three wide
Speaker 1: receivers that would obviously be attached for the Lions. But
Speaker 1: the way Aaron Rodgers is playing, and I got a
Speaker 1: lot of flat for putting him in my top ten
Speaker 1: in the MVP Award, that just tells me that these
Speaker 1: people aren't watching Aaron Rodgers play every week, or they've
Speaker 1: gotten too used to him being great and not seeing
Speaker 1: how it stands out compared to everyone else. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't detract for Aaron Rodgers because his receivers drops
Speaker 1: his perfectly thrown passes. He's played, he's I did the
Speaker 1: QB Index for the first time this week where you
Speaker 1: ranked I ranked all thirty two, and you do like
Speaker 1: an average scorper game, I would say he's been the
Speaker 1: most consistent quarterback where he's basically been the same very
Speaker 1: good player every week. Item as number four right now
Speaker 1: behind Breeze, Goff and my homes. But like it's hard
Speaker 1: for me to imagine anyone else you would put them
Speaker 1: below this year other than those three guys. Give me
Speaker 1: a break. You have to think this is a good
Speaker 1: outside of the issue personnel issues for Green Bay. Outside
Speaker 1: of that Patriots game, the Lions have the worst red
Speaker 1: zone defense they have are They're giving up thirty five
Speaker 1: points per game and two hundred yards rushing, which is
Speaker 1: a great sign because the Packers are feeling Aaron Jones
Speaker 1: right now. Aaron Rodgers wants him to play. McCarthy's talking
Speaker 1: him up. That guy's gotta get more touches. Stafford looked
Speaker 1: better last week. He has been really just blending into
Speaker 1: the background, which is strange for Matthew Stafford the first
Speaker 1: three weeks of this season, if missing a lot of
Speaker 1: deep throws. I thought that was at least a positive
Speaker 1: for them. Coming out of the Dallas game, they I
Speaker 1: thought they had jumped started their season with the Patriots
Speaker 1: win and then they lose the next week. They've had
Speaker 1: they sandwich that Patriots win the Lions with two kind
Speaker 1: of heartbreaking losses. If they can beat the Packers at home,
Speaker 1: and Packers team that has banged up you, finally you
Speaker 1: get you get your feet under yourself again and you're okay.
Speaker 1: Two and three. It's a big game for lines because
Speaker 1: they're kind of banged. If they they if they lose
Speaker 1: in that division, you're good. You go. If you go
Speaker 1: one and four, you have a six point six percent
Speaker 1: chance of making the playoffs. Since I gotta be honest
Speaker 1: with you, feel I'm pretty good about the lines in
Speaker 1: this game. You gonna how good? Three? Daddy can't get crazy,
Speaker 1: that's gonna say, But I do. I would predict them
Speaker 1: to win this game, which I'll see what happens. Uh uh.
Speaker 1: Moving on, the Jacksonville Jaguars trounced the Jets in Week four,
Speaker 1: and now riding high at three and one, they travel
Speaker 1: to Kansas City to face the only undefeated team remaining
Speaker 1: in the a f C. It is the Chiefs. On
Speaker 1: a short week. Oh but what a week it was
Speaker 1: because Patrick mahomes Uh absolutely cemented himself as an early
Speaker 1: m v P favorite with a brilliant fourth quarter against
Speaker 1: the Broncos. They come from behind win. If you wanna
Speaker 1: if you if you're hankering for our our analysis on
Speaker 1: that game and you you're like, oh, where you Obviously
Speaker 1: it's the Tuesday Twitter show. We we we start every
Speaker 1: episode with a breakdown, uh what mattered from Monday Night Football?
Speaker 1: So cycle back and check that out if you're curious.
Speaker 1: But now, Greg Rosantal, let's talk about this game. This
Speaker 1: is the game of the week, game of the week,
Speaker 1: game of the week. I mean, this is maybe the
Speaker 1: game of the year. Just slow down, what just in
Speaker 1: term to the match that you know, you're watching this
Speaker 1: offensive Supernova team who has been extra good at home
Speaker 1: against against I don't know if that's an underrated always
Speaker 1: this song, but I would say number two all time
Speaker 1: behind Live Forever. I don't think it's I think it's
Speaker 1: deeply that was like a smash hit for them. I
Speaker 1: think it's an epic that there weren't a lot of
Speaker 1: epics of the night people people got sick of it.
Speaker 1: I didn't get sick of it. I'm not sick of
Speaker 1: watching this. Uh. It's also like the rare seven minute
Speaker 1: long radio play, right, it's just you know, stend what
Speaker 1: was the back to back to bed? Those are the
Speaker 1: two kind of epic songs of alternative rock in the nineties. Hi, guys,
Speaker 1: we're old. Listen to us um the chiefs in this
Speaker 1: offense going up against this defense, and you almost get
Speaker 1: the feeling that the Jaguars are like by faith no more,
Speaker 1: another kind of struggling here to get Yes. How about
Speaker 1: Ugly Kid Joe I Hate Everything? Was that songs? Yeah? Like?
Speaker 1: How like Erica? Erica was four and a half years
Speaker 1: old and this happened maybe if not less? What year
Speaker 1: was it? Ld you, I don't know. It was ninth
Speaker 1: We're talking like nineteen to talk rap right now? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm you don't Can you figure out how old you were? Then?
Speaker 1: I was not created? Wow? Alright, yeah created interesting terminal.
Speaker 1: That's so concerning. I had a job. Yeah, I'm so
Speaker 1: like a lab or something. Yeah. No, I was born
Speaker 1: in n Okay good year. Yeah, Mark was Mark was
Speaker 1: in college then? No, not true? Getting close. Actually I
Speaker 1: was at the tailor started in August September. You, yep,
Speaker 1: that's cute. I know. I want to you know, forget faith.
Speaker 1: The more I want to talk about Tyreek Hill Jalen Ramsey,
Speaker 1: It's got to get a lot of attention because of
Speaker 1: the trash like I don't care about that as much
Speaker 1: as just Jalen Ramsey saying, Look, I'm gonna be up
Speaker 1: there on the line of scrimmage, press man coverage. Let's
Speaker 1: see what Tyreek can he'll he'll can do. What better
Speaker 1: matchup could you have? Can we ask for better reporting
Speaker 1: than tattle mongering like this has become reporting over the
Speaker 1: last three or four years in the NFL. So and
Speaker 1: so players said so and so about you? What do
Speaker 1: you have to say to that? Damn? It's just like
Speaker 1: old all right, It's already a great matchup, as Greg said, I,
Speaker 1: in fact, I would love to pick the Jaguars in
Speaker 1: this game, but I can't because the greatest mystery in
Speaker 1: the NFL in two thousand eighteen, two thousand seventeen, which
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles are you gonna get in a given week?
Speaker 1: You just don't know. Indeed, Westbrook had a great game
Speaker 1: last week against your Jets. Dude, he did not everybody did,
Speaker 1: but he did as well. They're not They have a
Speaker 1: pretty good receiver group, despite um, you know, the big
Speaker 1: injury that they lost Kilan Collin. Westbrook to me is
Speaker 1: a fine starting group, and they're explosive I think if
Speaker 1: you're the Jaguars and so far this year you have
Speaker 1: one great Bortles game, one good, very good Bortles game,
Speaker 1: and then two clunkers, two games where it look like
Speaker 1: that's just the ratio that's gonna be the ratio if
Speaker 1: you're just think you can win a super Bowl, If
Speaker 1: that's the ratio that you're getting, yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: they can win a well, then nuts on them because
Speaker 1: they spent all offseason trying to convince us how into
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles they were. But this should be a good
Speaker 1: one because you're playing the Chiefs defense, who can't tackle anyone.
Speaker 1: You can run on that defense too. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you're the Chiefs, this is the Jaguars, and you have
Speaker 1: the Patriots, then the Bengals, that's we're gonna find out
Speaker 1: what we think. I think it was on our Twitter
Speaker 1: show where obviously I thought this Chief's team is so
Speaker 1: different than the ones before. But I wonder if I'll
Speaker 1: be saying that after those three games, not getting Eric
Speaker 1: Berry back and then not being able to trade for
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas, which Ian Rappaport reported they were very keen
Speaker 1: on doing, is a killer combo. But they do have
Speaker 1: players playing well, like de Ford is playing well and
Speaker 1: he's he was back at well against Denver. Chris Jones
Speaker 1: is playing well. You know they have played. I do
Speaker 1: think actually the defense can come together, and I would
Speaker 1: like the secondary would bother me. But the rest of it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get Tony Romo in the booth on this one, right,
Speaker 1: I would hope. So, I mean West, why just uh
Speaker 1: do you know that West he watches a condensed generally,
Speaker 1: but for Romo every week he just treats himself and
Speaker 1: watches the full two hours. Pour myself a glass of wine.
Speaker 1: Get out the shark. I also do that for Packers games,
Speaker 1: I would pickle x Is. You know, it's just like night.
Speaker 1: I put Romo on Cardinals nine ers. So that is
Speaker 1: a heat seekret um. Thank you, Ben. Moving on, Oh,
Speaker 1: let's pick that game. Let's pick Jacksonville. Casey, I'm taking
Speaker 1: the Jags Chiefs. I'm taking the Chiefs at home. I
Speaker 1: would have taken either home team. This is a this
Speaker 1: is a coin flip. Uh, let's go with the Chiefs
Speaker 1: at home. But I can go either way. Moving on
Speaker 1: the devor Broncos. They could not defeat the Chiefs on
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football, dropping to two and two, painful loss
Speaker 1: for the Broncos. They now travel to the Meadowlands to
Speaker 1: face the Jets, who have been woeful since Week one. Uh,
Speaker 1: here's a here's a nug that's not a great nug
Speaker 1: if you're a Jet fan. A scored thirty one points
Speaker 1: in the third quarter against the Lions and the Monday
Speaker 1: Night opener. They have scored forty one points in the
Speaker 1: thirteen quarters since. So this is an offense that has
Speaker 1: completely gone off the rails. Sam Donald is missing throws.
Speaker 1: I believe the scheming is is not great either. The
Speaker 1: protection is not great, the running game is not great.
Speaker 1: Everything's a mess. So the Broncos, I think as a
Speaker 1: road team, you gotta feel pretty good going into the
Speaker 1: medal ends. Because the Jets can't score, I'd agree with you.
Speaker 1: I one thing that really bothers me about the Jets
Speaker 1: watching their offense, and I watched that Jaguars game this
Speaker 1: morning and it's at thirty eight minutes. I will not
Speaker 1: get back in my life, but it is your I
Speaker 1: feel for Sam Donald because I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the what the thinking is during
Speaker 1: the week when they prepare for these games. But we
Speaker 1: know that he's not throwing the ball deep downfield and
Speaker 1: not calling those plays. But it's third and seven, over
Speaker 1: and over, and they're asking him to dump the ball
Speaker 1: off to Isaiah crow L two yards behind the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage and he goes, he goes four yards get
Speaker 1: it's ransacked, and the Jets seem to have they seem
Speaker 1: to be idea free on offense. And it's an indictment
Speaker 1: of the coaching staff because I do wonder if there
Speaker 1: was a different group of thinkers in that building that
Speaker 1: we would see a different start for Sam Donald. It's
Speaker 1: I don't want to let him off the hook. I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna have a good career. But a j
Speaker 1: boy dropped the pick six, Jalen Ramsey dropped an easy
Speaker 1: interception in the end zone, there was a pick called back.
Speaker 1: Donald's one touchdown came when they recovered a fumble inside
Speaker 1: the tang yard line, so we didn't have to do much.
Speaker 1: I mean, he looks lost to me. Like Dan said you,
Speaker 1: I would like to know where you rank case keenum
Speaker 1: greg in your quarterback index because he's not having a
Speaker 1: good year. No, he is twenty it's not like have
Speaker 1: a major quarterback at which is you know, it's about
Speaker 1: where he is. Yeah, that it's not great. It's behind Bordles,
Speaker 1: it's behind Tannehill. He is a guy who needs to
Speaker 1: play freely. I think he just feels like a rhythm
Speaker 1: kind of streaky guy who needs to play freely. And
Speaker 1: once he started throwing some interceptions earlier this year, he's
Speaker 1: not playing as for really. I thought actually his game
Speaker 1: against the Chiefs was maybe his best game until he
Speaker 1: missed that throw at the end. But there's just something
Speaker 1: about him that's just very up and down and you
Speaker 1: can almost like see him thinking as he's holding the ball,
Speaker 1: which has been him most of his career. If you
Speaker 1: take away last season, we wouldn't be surprised, and we're
Speaker 1: not surprised now. Bet mative for the Jets. I mean
Speaker 1: you might say, Okay, Broncos feel good at for road games, sure,
Speaker 1: but this is a game that Jets can absolutely win.
Speaker 1: They can win sure, And I I just to circle
Speaker 1: back to Keenan for one more second. That everything Obviously
Speaker 1: there's only one team that wins the Super Bowl. All
Speaker 1: the other teams and you can a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of teams you could point to one play a
Speaker 1: season that will just haunt your dreams. And missing Damaryus
Speaker 1: Thomas down the sideline, what a moment that would have
Speaker 1: been in Denver, and what a win that would have
Speaker 1: been for the Broncos could change the whole complexion of
Speaker 1: that division. And he'll never get that throwback. So I
Speaker 1: wonder if they'll look back at the season that will
Speaker 1: haunt them and on that tribe. He made a couple
Speaker 1: of money throws too. I mean, there he is, I
Speaker 1: had not giving up on the Broncos. Is a team
Speaker 1: that's going to be hanging around and maybe spoil some teams.
Speaker 1: We're talking about the wild card teams. I think Denver
Speaker 1: is just like the Dolphins, like the Browns, like the Ravens,
Speaker 1: are the Steelers, They're in the mix. I think I
Speaker 1: think what you talked about. That play that Keenum missed
Speaker 1: feels to me like the opposite of the play that
Speaker 1: Mariota made and gave the Titans one of the biggest
Speaker 1: wins any team will have all year. This was one
Speaker 1: of the biggest losses any team. Dark Darnald is similarly.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's overthinking, but he he is
Speaker 1: trying to figure out the balance of the best thing
Speaker 1: he does right now is kind of get outside the
Speaker 1: pocket and make you know, second reaction plays, and but
Speaker 1: trying to figure out the balance of doing that or
Speaker 1: doing that too much like that, You've got to be
Speaker 1: decisive and making me So we spent all last offseason,
Speaker 1: you know, glowing and rightfully so over what Sean McVeigh
Speaker 1: was helped, how he was helping Jared Goff before the
Speaker 1: snap and probably all week long. I just feel that
Speaker 1: that what's missing here on this coaching staff, which is
Speaker 1: pretty there's not a lot of identity on this coaching staff.
Speaker 1: Is someone helping Donald the same way? Well, we're gonna
Speaker 1: find out. And I think this is a big game
Speaker 1: for the Jets season because if they stink out the
Speaker 1: joint again and the defense I think has been fine
Speaker 1: on balanced, they struggled last week and and that's a
Speaker 1: whole other conversation, but um, if the Jets are aimless
Speaker 1: again on offense and and Donald just is lost and
Speaker 1: doesn't look right, I start to worry as Jets fan.
Speaker 1: If this is Jared Goff in two sixteen, If this
Speaker 1: is Mitch Drabinsky last year where it's just now a countdown. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be the lost rookie season and then
Speaker 1: hopefully they hire the right guy in January. I hope
Speaker 1: it's not going to go that route. But that's what
Speaker 1: I've been expecting since the day they announced. And I
Speaker 1: get that, and I was saying it at the time,
Speaker 1: and I've been expecting that since the day they announced
Speaker 1: Todd Bowels was coming back, and goddamn if if he
Speaker 1: didn't look great in Week one and then offense. But
Speaker 1: wait a minute, but wait a minute. Well, actually, if
Speaker 1: you go through a painful season and then you get
Speaker 1: the next Matt Neggie or Sean McVeigh, aren't you in
Speaker 1: a much better place? Right? So you do want that
Speaker 1: I wanted. I wanted to have fun watching this season.
Speaker 1: I don't want to watch another four and twelve, five
Speaker 1: and eleven. I get that. I want Donald to have
Speaker 1: growth and being an offense that's functional and not incompetent.
Speaker 1: But we'll see what happens. Moving on. The Atlanta Falcons,
Speaker 1: who have been incompetent on defense this season uh in
Speaker 1: the league overall, giving up more points than all but
Speaker 1: two teams in the league, and now one in three.
Speaker 1: After letting one get away against the Bengals, travel to
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh to face the Steelers. This is another tough game,
Speaker 1: was for the Falcons because the Steelers need to win
Speaker 1: in a bad way too, and they're in their own building.
Speaker 1: It's a battle of incompetent defenses. The Steelers defense isn't
Speaker 1: much better than the Falcons. Um. I I worry about
Speaker 1: the Falcons. Gregg has picked him as one of his
Speaker 1: teams he sees as a riser in the second half
Speaker 1: of the season. They just came off of three really
Speaker 1: good Matt Ryan games, and I don't think it's any coincidence.
Speaker 1: All three of them came in their home field in
Speaker 1: a dome, and now they go play outdoors and Matt
Speaker 1: Ryan didn't play so outdoors in the season. Opener. Um,
Speaker 1: I feel so good about this as a matter of fact.
Speaker 1: Oh what that I'm locking up the one win Steelers,
Speaker 1: all right? I like that one. That's a good one.
Speaker 1: I was thinking of locking up the Falcons are when
Speaker 1: Grady Jarrett was out. That was like too much. They
Speaker 1: lost their decks. But I mean it's like, why do
Speaker 1: it anyways? Because I don't really believe it. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't ever really believe. But at the segment, it's
Speaker 1: the wind, desperate lane, desperate you want the trophy, just
Speaker 1: admit it, you wanted on the desk in a In
Speaker 1: a separate segment, you called the Falcons your riser. So
Speaker 1: they I would say, if they lose this, they have
Speaker 1: essentially fallen out of the race entirely. If they go
Speaker 1: one and four, I would make it interesting. I'd say
Speaker 1: there's twelve games. I'm not a remotely interest when I've
Speaker 1: found a Grady Jarrett losing Grady Jarrett, he's probably the
Speaker 1: most valuable player on their defense. To lose that after
Speaker 1: what you've seen over the last couple of weeks, it's
Speaker 1: a tough ask. It's a tough ask. But I think
Speaker 1: these are two sloppy teams. I just think the ste
Speaker 1: Alors are gonna find ways to lose games this year
Speaker 1: in general. I don't know if it will be this
Speaker 1: week or not, but they like they they are sloppy.
Speaker 1: They just it's just everything around that team smells like
Speaker 1: a team that is gonna have a franchise changing type
Speaker 1: of season team. And them has more penalties and for them,
Speaker 1: for them, that's eight and eight. So you have to
Speaker 1: win eight games along the way, like if they if
Speaker 1: they go seven and nine or eight and eight, they're
Speaker 1: gonna blow this thing up. And I think they could
Speaker 1: be headed. One great thing from our research book, and
Speaker 1: so Tamposey was born in you have to go back
Speaker 1: to when she was negative four uh in the last
Speaker 1: time the Steelers finished in last place in their division.
Speaker 1: That's how consistent this team. Mike Tomlin was in high school,
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown was five months old. LC. That's right. Mike Tomlin,
Speaker 1: by the way, gets your team out of control with
Speaker 1: all these penalties. Well, to Gregg's point, they look slot.
Speaker 1: It doesn't You don't see the staff that they have
Speaker 1: the most penalties. You're not surprised by it because it
Speaker 1: shows up every week. Built for Ben Roethlisberger to be
Speaker 1: a mistake prone, ultimately average quarterback, which he's been through
Speaker 1: four weeks. Even his good games like the Chiefs game
Speaker 1: and what's the other game I'm I'm thinking of, he
Speaker 1: he made a ton of mistakes, even in their games
Speaker 1: where they scored a lot of points. He's been pretty
Speaker 1: Slappy's time to get James Washington involved and Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: has not had to really like in sant Antonio Brown.
Speaker 1: I know it happens this week, sixty plus yards, and
Speaker 1: if we did, I would lock that up. But it's
Speaker 1: individual lock ups. We're not there yet as a group.
Speaker 1: To Steelers. Oh no, no, no, I don't trust the
Speaker 1: Steelers right now at all. Moving on the Oakland Raiders.
Speaker 1: They gotta win. They needed desperately against the Browns just
Speaker 1: barely forty two. The offense came to life, though I
Speaker 1: gotta give him credit. As much as we buried the
Speaker 1: officials for kind of taking that win from the Browns,
Speaker 1: it was it was the Raiders who went right down
Speaker 1: the field, scored, got the two point version, then won
Speaker 1: the game in a tea So that was a nice
Speaker 1: win for them. They now travel to Los Angeles to
Speaker 1: face the Greg Rosenthal, Uh you got uh, Derek Carr,
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, John Gruden looking to build off that win.
Speaker 1: I've I've never felt different, more different about the Chargers
Speaker 1: than the public does than this team, at least in
Speaker 1: terms of that I look at them more negatively than
Speaker 1: the public does. I usually that they're gonna be a
Speaker 1: great value. Let's say, you know this isn't gambling advice,
Speaker 1: but they're they're often kind of undersold, whereas this year,
Speaker 1: week after week, people can you know, people in the
Speaker 1: Desert consider them heavy favorites, and I just don't see
Speaker 1: that team this year. There are great offense, special teams
Speaker 1: that will get you beat in a pretty bad defense
Speaker 1: which doesn't really have an identity because you were expecting
Speaker 1: the secondary to be good and all the secondary does
Speaker 1: is give up big play after big play. So I
Speaker 1: don't know, Joey Moost is killing them on both forty
Speaker 1: Niners could have easily won that game a week ago.
Speaker 1: That looked like a team. That looks like a game
Speaker 1: between two very evenly matched teams, and I don't I
Speaker 1: see the same this week between the Raiders and the
Speaker 1: Chargers either. Just two teams right smack in the middle
Speaker 1: of the NFL that you kind of expect it's going
Speaker 1: to come down to the last couple of minutes, and
Speaker 1: you know, in that case, I kind of expect, like
Speaker 1: the Chargers special teams are something to blow it sometimes.
Speaker 1: So the middle of the roads, the bow you see
Speaker 1: these two teams is fairly even. I feel like they're
Speaker 1: two thousand and eighteen. Play has been very even. Yes,
Speaker 1: they've looked about the same right smack in the middle. Raiders.
Speaker 1: Let's I think the Chargers offenses mountains better than the
Speaker 1: Raiders office. I do. Wait, wait, I do too, But
Speaker 1: the special teams has been so bad for the Chargers,
Speaker 1: and that's like, I'm not going to ignore that. And
Speaker 1: the defense has been just as bad as the Raiders defense.
Speaker 1: The Charges has been a little bit better. You're right.
Speaker 1: They have Raiders averaging well over four yards per game
Speaker 1: on offense. The one thing I thought they have the
Speaker 1: number nine off big Big Ben being sloppy. Derek Carr
Speaker 1: is throwing some pawful interceptions this year. Good, good running game. Uh.
Speaker 1: I think Marshawn Lynch looks awesome. Yes, he looked awesome
Speaker 1: against Cleveland. What's Doug Martin doing on this roster? I
Speaker 1: don't know. You will be the Garden like you know,
Speaker 1: says he feels bad that he can't get Martin in
Speaker 1: the game. No, Marshall Lynch is one of the stories
Speaker 1: of the year. But to your point, West, the Raiders
Speaker 1: ninth in offensive efficiency according to Footballsiders. That checks out.
Speaker 1: They've been fine on offense when the quarterback isn't throwing
Speaker 1: bad interceptions and when Mark Tavis Bryant, who hasn't had
Speaker 1: a good year in four years, isn't dropping easy touched him.
Speaker 1: I also think that the Chargers lack of a home
Speaker 1: field advantage is so underplayed. I think it's a significant disadvantage.
Speaker 1: You think it's pretty I think, how is it going
Speaker 1: to improve? By the way, when they moved to an
Speaker 1: even bigger stadium that they can't I mean, I think
Speaker 1: they have less of it. I think they have less
Speaker 1: of a chance to win in l A than they
Speaker 1: do on the road. I think they being on the road,
Speaker 1: it was embarrassing last week the forty nine fans took
Speaker 1: over that stadium. It's gonna be the exact same thing
Speaker 1: this week with the Raiders. And to me that there's
Speaker 1: just something deflating and there's something that's gonna pick up
Speaker 1: the Raiders when you're when you're scoring a touchdown on
Speaker 1: the road and the crowd's going crazy. Give me. Speaking
Speaker 1: of all pro wide receivers were waiting for a breakoff
Speaker 1: from Keenan. Allen has not scored a touchdown since Week
Speaker 1: one and hasn't quite been himself. But this is kind
Speaker 1: of a bit of a Keenan Allen thing where he'll
Speaker 1: kind of be quiet and then you forget about Keenan Allen.
Speaker 1: Then he rolls off like seven and fifty yard games
Speaker 1: in nine weeks. That just hasn't happened yet. That will
Speaker 1: make their offense a lot better two once that does happen.
Speaker 1: Donald Penn was placed on injured reserve for the Raiders
Speaker 1: and their number one draft pick Colton Miller has not
Speaker 1: been playing well at all left tackle. That's one of
Speaker 1: the reasons they throw the ball so quickly, so that
Speaker 1: that's a problem. Let's take a break here to hear
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Speaker 1: the games, like you didn't expense that. Please. The Minnesota
Speaker 1: Vikings are something up with the Minnesota Vikings. Something don't
Speaker 1: feel right. Something's not passing the smell test right now?
Speaker 1: There one, two and one. Uh. They hung with the
Speaker 1: Rams on the road in a tough situation. That was
Speaker 1: a tough game for any team, and on balance, the
Speaker 1: Vikings of QUI to themselves well, but they couldn't get
Speaker 1: over the hump, which is telling because they were viewed
Speaker 1: as a favorite in the NFC. Now they need to win,
Speaker 1: and now they have to go to Philadelphia to face
Speaker 1: the defending Super Bowl champion Eagles. Mark Sessler is an
Speaker 1: NFC Championship Game rematch, but this time it's Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: and Carson Wentz instead of case Keenum and Nick Voles.
Speaker 1: It's a depressing rematch, I think for Vikings fans, just
Speaker 1: because it feels like you're far away from that game
Speaker 1: right now, I came out of the Titans game not
Speaker 1: worried at all about Carson Wentz. So that game was
Speaker 1: that was a really bad game for the Vice. But
Speaker 1: the idea that you're just gonna soar back to the
Speaker 1: championship against the Eagles are filling the blank. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of questions because my the vikings to your doesn't
Speaker 1: smell right. Situation with Minnesota their offensive line, that's right,
Speaker 1: you can you can make that sound effect. I don't
Speaker 1: need that. Can we cease with that? Please? Probably not.
Speaker 1: It's probably gonna go on for the next like nine
Speaker 1: to twelve weeks. I'll be my guests. They're offensive line
Speaker 1: is a major issue. They bail on the run, slash,
Speaker 1: cannot run the ball. There are too many players on
Speaker 1: their defense completely underperforming. They gave up fifteen point eight
Speaker 1: points per game last They're up to almost thirty right now,
Speaker 1: twenty seven point five. They just they're stacked roster wise,
Speaker 1: and outside of I mean Adam, thelan and in parts
Speaker 1: of the offense are what we'd expect, But the whole
Speaker 1: defense right now has Did anyone really think they were
Speaker 1: gonna beat the Rams at any point last last week.
Speaker 1: I didn't, not for one second, but I think they're
Speaker 1: hanging around. But they played great offensively. They made the
Speaker 1: rams defenses their little My issue is their defense. No,
Speaker 1: I couldn't do a thing against the Rams. No, they're not.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they're they can't win this game.
Speaker 1: And after watching what Corey Davis did the Jalen Mills,
Speaker 1: I think that thelan and Stefon Diggs are licking their
Speaker 1: chops because this Eagle secondary without Rodney McCloud and with
Speaker 1: Jalen Mills really in a slump, they are not playing well.
Speaker 1: The ats was disappointing against the Rams. Is that's meant
Speaker 1: to be their strength late when Kirk Cousin was dropped
Speaker 1: and dimes in the first half, you did get the feeling, oh,
Speaker 1: they need this game, they want this game after the
Speaker 1: Bills lost, but their defense just could not short any
Speaker 1: short week and playing the Rams and we're dealing with
Speaker 1: some new injuries in their secondary, they should be a
Speaker 1: little healthier for this one. And when you look at
Speaker 1: the Eagles, they're not the same team obviously that won
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. They've been very mediocre. They're lucky to
Speaker 1: be two into the two. The two wins that they
Speaker 1: had could have easily gone gone the other way, and
Speaker 1: they were outplayed in parts of those. And the biggest
Speaker 1: change to me for the Eagles is their offensive line
Speaker 1: is what defined them last year, and their offensive line
Speaker 1: is getting Carson Wentz killed right now seventeen hits and
Speaker 1: in both of the last weeks, the Colts beat them
Speaker 1: up pretty good up front too, So that that just
Speaker 1: makes you wonder because that's kind of what you think
Speaker 1: of as the Eagles. It is really good, uh football
Speaker 1: talk so far in today's episode, guys, and they need
Speaker 1: a little more mirth picking it. Upset really good so far, yesh,
Speaker 1: let's pick the game West. You got you got the
Speaker 1: Vikings and an upset. Yeah. I don't think it's going
Speaker 1: to be a blot or anything. I just have a
Speaker 1: feeling that Vikings backs are against the walls and they're
Speaker 1: gonna come up. Mark Um, I think the Eagles are
Speaker 1: not about to go two and three. They're gonna win
Speaker 1: that we had you again, double beck on your predictions,
Speaker 1: keep getting them because I but this is this is
Speaker 1: the riser in the in this quarter. That is because
Speaker 1: of who they have coming up down the stretch. And
Speaker 1: by the way, Mike's prediction ends this week. And I
Speaker 1: said they would lose three in a row, and this
Speaker 1: will be the third straight loss. You can't really say three.
Speaker 1: They had already lost one when you made the predict.
Speaker 1: Is it factual that it would be a third loss?
Speaker 1: You predicted two losses in a row. But I will
Speaker 1: say that the Twitter show graphic was generous and said
Speaker 1: three when that's not really what I said. You said
Speaker 1: they'd lose twice in a row. As a road underducks?
Speaker 1: Am I listen? Am I right? We'll find out if
Speaker 1: I'm right. You know, this whole narrative dies. It goes
Speaker 1: to you're as confused as we are. Just yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I think the any listener who is intelligent and
Speaker 1: can read context clues is hanging with us. The Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 1: What's your I got the Eagles, even though the Eagles
Speaker 1: aren't playing great. I don't like the Vikings this year.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lock it up and take the Eagles. Oh
Speaker 1: about that? Why now I like that? I don't like
Speaker 1: this Vikings team. Do you want a little trivia question?
Speaker 1: Only one defending champion has started a season two and
Speaker 1: three and gone on to make the playoffs. One Ever,
Speaker 1: what's the question? Which team? It seems like an obvious
Speaker 1: set up to it to the to the question there
Speaker 1: was the he got pretty good? Was it the Cowboys?
Speaker 1: The year Emmett Smith held out your right team? Wrong year?
Speaker 1: The Cowboys? I just shouldn't Mrs Toaster maybe pulled a
Speaker 1: Sessler and got too specific with my answer. The Arizona
Speaker 1: Cardinals own four. They've been competitive at least the last
Speaker 1: two weeks. They lost my two points to the Bears,
Speaker 1: three points to the Sea. You're giving out cookies cupcakes, Yes,
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals and their fans. Yes, I'm going to
Speaker 1: do it all right. Here are your cookies, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: They now traveled to San Francisco to face the forty
Speaker 1: ninioners West uh and Uh. Josh Rosen gets the build
Speaker 1: off a promising first start that it was not bad
Speaker 1: in that game. Yeah, I thought this. This is a
Speaker 1: battle of two quarterbacks that played better than you would
Speaker 1: think looking at the box scores or or hearing people
Speaker 1: talk about it. Josh Rosen made some big throws and
Speaker 1: the ball placement on that one throw down the sideline
Speaker 1: to cham Williams between two defenders. There was I think
Speaker 1: overturned and called a non catch when it was definitely
Speaker 1: a cat. Well it looked like a catch to me anyway. Yes,
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen promising first start. I liked what I saw
Speaker 1: out of him, and it wouldn't it wouldn't surprise me
Speaker 1: if they won this game. That was the highest graded
Speaker 1: performance by a rookie quarterback in their first start. I
Speaker 1: think that Pro Football Focus has ever had really which
Speaker 1: surprised me. But there may not be like a long list.
Speaker 1: And it was one of the reasons why I was
Speaker 1: especially furious at Mike McCoy and really Steve Wilkes. He
Speaker 1: said he was the one who told them to run
Speaker 1: it three street times. Josh Rosen was dealing in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter that he was the best player on the team,
Speaker 1: and they took the ball out of his hands. And
Speaker 1: that's why I really as I'm someone that's rooting for
Speaker 1: Rosen in general, I just really like him, want him
Speaker 1: to do well, and I'm convinced this is the wrong
Speaker 1: staff for him, and I'm annoyed by that because it's
Speaker 1: I don't know, it might be for a few years here.
Speaker 1: It's not a great start for this and a BA
Speaker 1: and a bad team too. Do you like c J. Betham? I?
Speaker 1: I do think that he might be like one of
Speaker 1: the thirty five best quarterbacks in the NFL. I think
Speaker 1: that he's his arm isn't like what you want from
Speaker 1: a starter, but and he's he's gonna get hurt because
Speaker 1: he sits in there and takes too many hits. But
Speaker 1: I do like him. It's telling, the telling that Shanahan.
Speaker 1: They could have gone out and tried to find someone
Speaker 1: else or made some sort of a trade and shown
Speaker 1: ultra confidence in him right away. I also have annoyed
Speaker 1: that Kyle Shanahan doesn't have a better team here. He's
Speaker 1: now wasting a year two essentially, And I think he
Speaker 1: can be one of the great coaches in the league.
Speaker 1: But he's right in the middle of his coaching prime.
Speaker 1: And and that's that is one reason to believe in Bethrood, though,
Speaker 1: is because this is the guy Shanahan wanted in the
Speaker 1: third round last year, way earlier than people expected. And
Speaker 1: it's the guy that Shannon has been coaching every day
Speaker 1: and believes in for a year and a half. So
Speaker 1: that alone, if if Kyle Shannion believes in him, makes
Speaker 1: me believe in him. Let's continue to spend through the
Speaker 1: late games. On Sunday, the Los Angeles Rams, after a
Speaker 1: little mini by, travel to Seattle to face the Seahawks.
Speaker 1: Here's the Rams. You want to talk about consistency on
Speaker 1: offense in their first four weeks, thirty three points, thirty
Speaker 1: four points, thirty five points, thirty eight points. It's a
Speaker 1: team at average thirty points last year. Uh. In the
Speaker 1: sixteen games the starters played, UH, they faced a Seahawks
Speaker 1: team greg that has kind of gotten off the mad
Speaker 1: here with back to back wins. But this is gonna
Speaker 1: be a much bigger challenge than they had against Dallas
Speaker 1: in Arizona. It is especially because Errol Thomas isn't there.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's been so much focus on
Speaker 1: the off the field stuff with Errol Thomas that there
Speaker 1: we kind of lose the fact that this is a
Speaker 1: team in Seattle. I think had a chance to make
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I know they're an ugly team, but I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be tough to play at home. I
Speaker 1: think the defense is coming together, and Earl Thomas, other
Speaker 1: than Bobby Wagner, you know, is maybe the most valuable
Speaker 1: player on that defense. Maybe he's even more valuable than Wagner,
Speaker 1: And now you take him out of the mix, and
Speaker 1: it's just a little harder to imagine them slowing the
Speaker 1: Rams down. One thing I'm keeping an eye on with
Speaker 1: the Seahawks is a guy Mark loved in the preseason,
Speaker 1: David Moore. They are talking about taking some snaps away
Speaker 1: from Brandon Marshall and giving him the David Moore and
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see that happen because I I
Speaker 1: thought David Moore showed a lot of playmaking ability in
Speaker 1: the preseason. Why not do that? I I was thinking
Speaker 1: about this RAMS team. Could they beat an a f
Speaker 1: C Pro Bowl team an a f C Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: defense if you put up the Rams for four quarters? No?
Speaker 1: I mean, well that it's a weird alternate universe where
Speaker 1: this team has to be training the entire offseason together
Speaker 1: with a quality head coach. But if that's ac no,
Speaker 1: I think. I think because there'll be such a talent
Speaker 1: like you. In theory, the talent be so much more
Speaker 1: for the Pro Bowl team that they have that one
Speaker 1: week and then they get they only have one week.
Speaker 1: Four Yeah, I would take a lot of NFL teams
Speaker 1: over a one week Pro Bowl team. I think the
Speaker 1: continuity they have you knowing ever, you know being I
Speaker 1: mean in this case, I'm not just saying any team.
Speaker 1: I'm saying the Rams star power. They're like they could
Speaker 1: have seven Pro Bowlers. I guess this is how the
Speaker 1: show works. You're allowed to Is this Pro Bowl team
Speaker 1: playing a three four or four three? They're very hybrid.
Speaker 1: They mixed between the two. Is it a home game
Speaker 1: for the Rams? Are they on the road? It would
Speaker 1: be in Honolulu a neutral site, but then that would
Speaker 1: be a Pro Bowl home game, right, I mean, I guess,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. That's a very milk toast fan.
Speaker 1: I don't know if the locals are like, yeah, we
Speaker 1: really support team Sanders is Deon Sanders the coach. Rams
Speaker 1: games are not the biggest home field advantage in the
Speaker 1: league either. By the way, who's the defensive coordinator matching
Speaker 1: wits with Sean McVeigh the loser of the FC championship
Speaker 1: or Dion Sanders Jerry offensive coordinator. I'll take the if
Speaker 1: it's the Sean mcveagor's Michael Irvin. Uh, where were we
Speaker 1: in Seattle for us? A big game? That this was
Speaker 1: the game. Remember last year when the Rams, it was
Speaker 1: kind of that, hey, this is the changing of the guard.
Speaker 1: At the moment that the Rams went up there and
Speaker 1: cleaned their clocks, it wasn't necessarily clear that the Rams
Speaker 1: were even, you know, gonna win the division. And now
Speaker 1: it just feels I could be stunning if the Shaw
Speaker 1: the Seahawks are still not taking care of Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: Dwayne Brown might be there, but he's taken more sacks
Speaker 1: than QB hits against UM the Rams in his career
Speaker 1: than any other team. So they go and get Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: and uh, he's the He's their only hope. I think
Speaker 1: in this game, if he has one of those special
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, he needs to play better. I mean, I
Speaker 1: can smell the the twelves coming at me this week
Speaker 1: because Russell Wilson's twenty one in the QBN. I don't think,
Speaker 1: why are we so into smelling on this preview show,
Speaker 1: everyone's smelling things. I just kind of gross. I don't think,
Speaker 1: let's let's please. Greg's got a little congestion up there.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a big it's all relative. There's always
Speaker 1: gonna be something up there. Uh, let's move on the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Why did you say that the Cowboys? Are you talking
Speaker 1: about apologies? That are saying I got a big nose.
Speaker 1: There's a lot to fill, but I never noticed. Why
Speaker 1: can't it simply be two clear channels? Why must it
Speaker 1: be congested in your mind all the time. Let's get
Speaker 1: back to the family trees. That a trait. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: me and my dad nice big I mean his bigger
Speaker 1: but yeah, nice big one. I think you have a
Speaker 1: nice nose. Yeah, I've never noticed the Cowboys Sunday Night,
Speaker 1: A big nose can be nice and it depends you,
Speaker 1: no doubt. We'll take your word on that. The cow Wow.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys are back um on Sunday night football again
Speaker 1: and uh they are two and two and they had
Speaker 1: a last second win against the Lions. Uh that was
Speaker 1: set up by dak to Zeke. So that was a
Speaker 1: nice win. Jarod's feeling himself. The Cowboys feeling good. Now
Speaker 1: they travel to Houston, UH to face the Texans, who
Speaker 1: got off the matt after an oh and three start,
Speaker 1: outlasting the Colts thirty seven to thirty four. Mark Sessler
Speaker 1: was that a breakthrough for the Cowboys offense at the
Speaker 1: end of last week, or is it still a situation
Speaker 1: where you're wondering how they're gonna score points to win games.
Speaker 1: I'm not wondering if they have one of the best
Speaker 1: players in the entire league and Ezekial Elliott, and I
Speaker 1: will continue to wonder about the rest of the offense?
Speaker 1: Was question? What was the question? I thought? Am I
Speaker 1: still worried about their offense? Is it a side of
Speaker 1: things to come that the way they were able to still? No,
Speaker 1: I don't think. I think that is, if anything, maybe
Speaker 1: an aberration against the Lions team that's getting crushed on
Speaker 1: defense three out of four games so far. The answer
Speaker 1: is the nineteen six Cowboys. Hey, listen, a little trivia question.
Speaker 1: I give West half a point for that. I'll take it.
Speaker 1: He got the right team. It was a funny yeah,
Speaker 1: call back? What what was the set up here? What
Speaker 1: am I supposed to be doing? Sorry? I apologize, Mark
Speaker 1: I this game is on my radar and I may
Speaker 1: have to somehow schedule a doctor's appointment on Sunday night
Speaker 1: or something that will get me out of watching this.
Speaker 1: I might because this is two teams that have so
Speaker 1: much ego that they refused to solve their own issues
Speaker 1: in the off season, the Cowboys simply said, we're gonna
Speaker 1: cut Dez Bryant, do nothing at wide receiver and hope
Speaker 1: that a rookie wee draft and talk about him as
Speaker 1: he's you know, a number one x wide receiver. And
Speaker 1: then you find out now you've got nothing. And the
Speaker 1: Texans I understood that you added a few linemen, but
Speaker 1: not a single one of them have a grade of
Speaker 1: higher than like fifty six on PFF. Right now, it's
Speaker 1: a disastrous dage out of a hundred. I mean, you
Speaker 1: do you get into like the territory when you have
Speaker 1: like the set six seventies and eighties. I mean, please speak.
Speaker 1: And I think they look at their backfield. They had
Speaker 1: an injured running back who was good last year, but
Speaker 1: he was injured this offseason. And you're trying to tell
Speaker 1: us that two time making the lead bust Lamar Miller
Speaker 1: is your starter in sit down, It's gonna be hard
Speaker 1: to follow that if you just killed both teams. But uh,
Speaker 1: Titans right tackle Julian Davenport or Texans tackle Julian Daveport
Speaker 1: have five penalties the week before, so they benched him
Speaker 1: and then left tackle Martinez ranking got worked over last
Speaker 1: week by the Colts. This is an awful offensive line
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure if they're even the worst position
Speaker 1: group on this team. Their cornerbacks are retchard. They don't
Speaker 1: cover anyone. Then again, like you know, Boo who you
Speaker 1: have to watch a football game with DeShawn Watson, J J. Watt,
Speaker 1: Jedevan Clowney, Ezekiel Elliott, DeAndre Marcus Lawrence, a crime a Riverboddy.
Speaker 1: I have my preferences, and that's your preference, not mine.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying there's some I do think that Shawn
Speaker 1: Watson in the offense again in the end of that
Speaker 1: Colts game look good. You're missing a couple of stories.
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith is a star now and Layton vanderash the
Speaker 1: Cowboys first round pick, played really well in place of
Speaker 1: Shaan Lee last week and best game this year by far.
Speaker 1: I'm ever, I don't think he's had some dominant games,
Speaker 1: but you're right, Vanderess, even when he came in for
Speaker 1: when Lee first got hurt two weeks ago, he just
Speaker 1: popped to the point that I don't think they're going
Speaker 1: to take him out of the starting lineup anytime. So
Speaker 1: that's good. Just figures. They got to figure out how
Speaker 1: to stay on the field. Jalen Smith might end up
Speaker 1: losing some snap. How them they're gonna play three linebackers.
Speaker 1: How many years did chud Lee get hurt in the
Speaker 1: Dallas defense? Immediately went down? The two fourteen is good
Speaker 1: there and you're in the lamb. Thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: And any time Mark you want to join us opening,
Speaker 1: I feel completely confident roaming around unscathed on the other
Speaker 1: floors of the house, locking you in that lab. Speaking
Speaker 1: of locking U when we talk about open, we talked
Speaker 1: about that wide open a f C. I believe the
Speaker 1: Houston Texans are going to be in that mix as well.
Speaker 1: And you know, to get into that mix, you can't
Speaker 1: start one and four. You need to start stacking some
Speaker 1: dubs and put yourself in position to make a December run.
Speaker 1: And that's why at home, Deshaun Watson knocking off the
Speaker 1: rust now looking better and better? What is back to
Speaker 1: being J J. Watt Clowney prime time, the crowd and
Speaker 1: a Cowboys team. Yes, the defense is much improved, but
Speaker 1: that offense stinks and you know it. That's why I'm
Speaker 1: gonna knock up the Houston Texans. Also to get there.
Speaker 1: One in three, um, one in three in locks, we're
Speaker 1: both gonna be two and three by Sunday Night. Shoot
Speaker 1: for the Stars. Bang bang, sit down, Newt Rockney. Let's
Speaker 1: move on Monday Night Football. Uh the he's been sitting
Speaker 1: for some time. Uh or prone. The Washington Redskins are
Speaker 1: two and or cremated. I don't really know what they
Speaker 1: did with after he passed a very painful topic for
Speaker 1: the families. Yeah, I'm gonna move on the Washington Redskins
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football. Coming off that ridiculous week for by
Speaker 1: travel to the Superdome to face the Saints. The Saints
Speaker 1: we talked about earlier, took care of business against the Giants.
Speaker 1: Nice road win for the team. Now they're back the
Speaker 1: Dome and Chris Westling sneaky good Redskins defense? Can they
Speaker 1: slow down? Drew Brees of the Saints. I like the
Speaker 1: way you sneaky good there. Because the Redskins defense is
Speaker 1: better than people think. I believe statistically their top five
Speaker 1: this year. UM, I don't know if they're gonna end
Speaker 1: up there, but they are a top ten defense. The
Speaker 1: Saints are feeling themselves on offense. Alvin Kamara had a
Speaker 1: great game. And Taysom Hill, this guy. You hear all
Speaker 1: with him on the m v P list. I I
Speaker 1: put him, Come on, Greg, calmed down with the Taysom Hill,
Speaker 1: Steve you you hear all August about how the Ravens
Speaker 1: are gonna do this and they're gonna do that with
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. The Saints are gonna do so much more
Speaker 1: with Taysom Hill this year than the Ravens are ever
Speaker 1: gonna do in two thousand eight. Team with Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: This guy gets the ball in his hands and makes
Speaker 1: plays and you get mark ingram back is I have
Speaker 1: no problem with a team getting a fresh, hard nose
Speaker 1: running back in Week five. You've got in the first
Speaker 1: month of the season out of the way. This is
Speaker 1: an asset to the Saints. I mean, sometimes suspense are
Speaker 1: not the worst thing if they play into keeping you healthy.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady two thousand six. I think it was a
Speaker 1: factor and then winning the Super Bowl. It's a good
Speaker 1: point keep them healthy by both of you. Dan obviously agreeing,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, what a point. I also like like
Speaker 1: Sean payton Ill he like wears kind of everything that
Speaker 1: he does on his sleep. He wants to let you
Speaker 1: know how smart he is with Taysom Hill, and I
Speaker 1: embrace that, like he wants to show you. Look at this,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have fun. You don't think I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: out Drew Brees on one of the biggest snaps of
Speaker 1: the game. I'm gonna do it, and it's gonna work.
Speaker 1: And Taysom Hill is a freak of nature that I
Speaker 1: want to make everyone now. It feels like a bad
Speaker 1: quality for most humans, but a good quality for an
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. Yes, Greg, you're very excited about Taysom Hill.
Speaker 1: But you're right though, Like when he is on the field,
Speaker 1: he pops, he moves fast, he's his body type is
Speaker 1: it doesn't really make sense. He's like he looks like
Speaker 1: a quarterback. But then it'll like shoot down. He'll go
Speaker 1: up between the tackles for about Christian McCaffrey, or he'll
Speaker 1: bolt to the outs. He claims he's but he claims
Speaker 1: he's faster than Alvin Kamara, and he's he's like one
Speaker 1: of the best gunners on special teams league. I think
Speaker 1: Vick and r G three are the only quarterbacks ever
Speaker 1: to run a faster forty than Tastom Hi. This is
Speaker 1: a tasty Monday Night. Well, what I really like this?
Speaker 1: There's any Adrian Peterson revenge factor here. This is a
Speaker 1: team that taught him to the win. I don't think
Speaker 1: the Saints did Adrian Peterson wrong, though, Mark I attempted
Speaker 1: to pick this game. Mark Saints at home, Saints on
Speaker 1: a primetime slate, please sneaky good? What Redskins defense? West?
Speaker 1: I know, but I don't think Alex Smith can keep
Speaker 1: up with Drew Brees in a shootout. Really, no, I don't.
Speaker 1: I think Kirk Cousins can Alex Smith. For the most part,
Speaker 1: I think the saintsman did keep up with Drew Brees
Speaker 1: in a shootout in the playoffs one year. Yes, that
Speaker 1: was his best, yest moment, but he had he had
Speaker 1: the forty Niners talent, not Paul Richardson and Josh Doxon
Speaker 1: th Jo Dockson. Who when's the last time Johnstockson made
Speaker 1: a play two thousand nine. I'll take I'll take, I'll
Speaker 1: take the home team. I just I'm gonna take the
Speaker 1: Saints too, and then I'm gonna jam in a point
Speaker 1: that has nothing to do with that. And that's that
Speaker 1: West have been saying, like you could tell Adrian Peterson
Speaker 1: from last year. He's the same guy this year. I
Speaker 1: think he's another level that week three, same guy the
Speaker 1: week and behind a much better offensive. The suddenness and
Speaker 1: the explosion here year he looks like like he hasn't
Speaker 1: looked in about four or five years. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: this is an old render type of team. It was there,
Speaker 1: but it's it's going another level. It's it's not it
Speaker 1: was there. And you know what, I think skipping training
Speaker 1: camp is a nice way to do all that. Maybe
Speaker 1: we should camp and you're fresh. What if we hit
Speaker 1: the scene around September eight, I'd be fresher right now
Speaker 1: then a long running cessler about November eight? How about
Speaker 1: we left bell this roll in like January? All right, good,
Speaker 1: good preview, guys, Nice job, nice job with the locks.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have some fun on Sunday when football returns.
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Speaker 1: is Dan Hands signing off. Well I close it by
Speaker 1: saying until Sunday, so I really boxed myself in. Stan
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