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Speaker 1: we'll just roll with it Um. This is the week
Speaker 1: five version flagship program. I'll be around the NFL podcast
Speaker 1: where we go through all of the action from Sunday.
Speaker 1: Uh and it was a another fun day of football.
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. By the way, two teams still undefeated, both
Speaker 1: got dubs today. And here's a fun fact, Mr Sessler.
Speaker 1: All Right, the Cleveland Browns and the New York Jets
Speaker 1: both victorious today. We'll get to that in a little bit.
Speaker 1: First time these teams have been victorious on the same
Speaker 1: day since December not quite but closed two thousand fifteen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it was three years. Mark. It's
Speaker 1: a testament to UM, to you and I singularly, the
Speaker 1: hardship that we've gone through here at the workplace, yet
Speaker 1: continue to be professional in the shows that we do,
Speaker 1: often three shows plus a video show, countless YouTube hits,
Speaker 1: endless articles that go into a black hole. I listen.
Speaker 1: It's just we've dealt with nothing but ill at ease
Speaker 1: results and we continue to rage on like total pros.
Speaker 1: Dana's to credit to you and also to me. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure that's the last time the Browns want a
Speaker 1: game on a Sunday period. Well, it is. I would say,
Speaker 1: I mean, the je's not been a raging success, but
Speaker 1: the Browns have not been all They're part of the
Speaker 1: business in two thou sixteen they want on a Saturday,
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken on Christmas eve h, It's all good.
Speaker 1: And speaking of being a warrior, I'm under the weather
Speaker 1: right now, but I gotta keep just pushing through because
Speaker 1: that's what the listeners deserve, that just the four of
Speaker 1: us together talking the American football. When we have a
Speaker 1: moment and we don't do we can get into the
Speaker 1: games there. I kind of think, I know what's going
Speaker 1: on with your health. Okay, let me know when you
Speaker 1: want to get to that. But when we get to football,
Speaker 1: let's talk about some football games that were played on Sunday.
Speaker 1: And let's start with a rematch of the NFC Championship game.
Speaker 1: Once goes back to pass, he's looking low where he
Speaker 1: HiT's in the air and it's really low. We're looking
Speaker 1: ball rumble. He's so hungry he's gonna eat Joseph Yes,
Speaker 1: Paul Kfe and and Erica. When I say, can make
Speaker 1: sure we clip that off to put that in consideration,
Speaker 1: I meet it because that's a great one because you
Speaker 1: had a fat guy touchdown Linval Joseph return to fumble
Speaker 1: sixty four yards for a score. Kirk Cousins through for
Speaker 1: three oh one in a touch in the Minnesota Vikings
Speaker 1: beat the Philadelphia Eagles. UH a huge road win for
Speaker 1: Vikings team that's had a rough couple of weeks both
Speaker 1: on and off the field. Greg Rosenthal, let's start there.
Speaker 1: A fascinating game that I could go in a million
Speaker 1: directions to start, but I think you have to start
Speaker 1: with Kirk Cousins, who is playing some of the best
Speaker 1: football of his career. Despite the Vikings record, that's three
Speaker 1: games I count now where Cousins was just next level special.
Speaker 1: The throws that he made today under heavy pressure once again,
Speaker 1: the Vikings offensive line struggled throughout the game, and Cousins
Speaker 1: made throw after throw into tight windows. It's like him,
Speaker 1: Adam Theeland and Stefon Diggs are just putting this team
Speaker 1: on their backs, and I don't know if that's a
Speaker 1: recipe that can work over the course of a season.
Speaker 1: The defense certainly played better in spots today, but really
Speaker 1: I think it was the Eagles more shooting themselves in
Speaker 1: the foot. Cousins was ultimately the best player on the
Speaker 1: field and they deserve to win. He made that one
Speaker 1: who we got? Oh that was me? Oh, you didn't
Speaker 1: even remember because she had so much fun watching this game.
Speaker 1: It was a good It was a good game. I
Speaker 1: think I said before the year, my my new year's
Speaker 1: resolution for the new football year was not to take
Speaker 1: undue pride in any correct predictions, which is good. So
Speaker 1: I haven't made any correct predictions and so that's really
Speaker 1: it's really come through for me. What a point of
Speaker 1: growth for you? So why did you think? Why are
Speaker 1: you surprised? Because obviously you're so confident and the Eagles
Speaker 1: that you picked them, there's your lock of the week
Speaker 1: which went against you. Why why weren't they able to
Speaker 1: do the things you thought they were gonna do? I mean,
Speaker 1: I wasn't remotely confident in that. Get into the next
Speaker 1: point of the game, they made a ton of unforced theirs.
Speaker 1: Wendell Smallwood dropped the pass at the one yard line,
Speaker 1: which would have been about figure first and goal inside
Speaker 1: the five. J J. I just dropped the ball inside
Speaker 1: the ten yard line without getting tackled. When the offensive
Speaker 1: line of the Eagles started really moving the vikings, which
Speaker 1: they did really throughout the whole second half of the game. Uh,
Speaker 1: and then they had I think five or six pre
Speaker 1: snap penalties. It was just like, really a sloppy performance
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. But they're running backs and
Speaker 1: wide rece evers haven't played well this year, and Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz has been hit twenty seven times in three games.
Speaker 1: The offensive line isn't protecting him well and he got
Speaker 1: walloped on the Linball Joseph score and you see that
Speaker 1: each game against the Titans. Last week, then it was
Speaker 1: another example of the middle of that line opening up
Speaker 1: and Wentz is right there to be here. And in
Speaker 1: that case it was Lane Johnson the right tackle. That's
Speaker 1: two forced fumbles seas allowed in the last two weeks.
Speaker 1: Stephen Weatherly started at defensive end for the Vikings. They
Speaker 1: only had two defensive ends active for that game, and
Speaker 1: he had a very good game. They were running out
Speaker 1: of gas by the end. But but the Vikings in
Speaker 1: their offense made the key drive when it mattered, and
Speaker 1: Dan Bailey hit a clutch field goal. Ultimately he did.
Speaker 1: He struggled earlier in the game and then made the
Speaker 1: fifty two yard or that essentially assaulted this away um.
Speaker 1: The Vikings have struggled for most of the season. Now
Speaker 1: they're too two and one. Kirk Cousins West We we
Speaker 1: talked about it. We did a sky Sports hit earlier today.
Speaker 1: He has not been the problem at all. In fact,
Speaker 1: he has been worth the investment. And uh and then some.
Speaker 1: The running game continues to be an issue. No Dalvin Cook,
Speaker 1: who's sidelined in this game again, I feel like that's
Speaker 1: the missing piece here. If they can get Cook on
Speaker 1: track and healthy and add a running game to the
Speaker 1: passing game, and I think the defense will be okay
Speaker 1: and the Vikes could be fine. But we're not all
Speaker 1: the way there yet. But this is a really good
Speaker 1: start for them. Yeah, to two and one, same record
Speaker 1: as the Packers, just a little bit behind the Bears,
Speaker 1: and that divisions up for grabs the Vikings. Both the
Speaker 1: Vikings and the Eagles are in fine shape because nobody's
Speaker 1: running away with these dudes, right. All of these games
Speaker 1: that both of these teams played have come down a
Speaker 1: couple of weird plays like that Lynn Val Joseph play
Speaker 1: was a great play. It happened to pop up up
Speaker 1: in the air and he goes and gets it. But
Speaker 1: one play by the Vikings. That wasn't lucky was Harrison
Speaker 1: Smith breaking up a third in twenty in the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter with just a sensational breakup of alshon Jeffrey. The
Speaker 1: Eagles in a decided to punt instead of going for
Speaker 1: a long field goal. That was kind of the one
Speaker 1: defensive leader type of play that made the difference for
Speaker 1: them to win. That's a that's a six point game
Speaker 1: at that point. If he completes that, it's probably what
Speaker 1: fourth and one right at the twenty yard line, and
Speaker 1: it could be a totally different game. You're right, Greg,
Speaker 1: let's move on. Portals, will run a screens in or something.
Speaker 1: Let's picked out of the sky. Let's picked out ten
Speaker 1: five touchdown j City Chris Jones. A flag thrown on
Speaker 1: the play, but Chris Jones Mitch Haltas casey f X
Speaker 1: with the call. The Chiefs poorest defense forced Jacksonville quarterback
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles into five turnovers, including uh, that pick six
Speaker 1: you just heard from Chris Jones. The Chiefs cruise to
Speaker 1: a thirty fourteen win over the Jaguars. Chris Westling, this
Speaker 1: was a very different type of win for the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: and you imagine it was a refreshing change of pace
Speaker 1: from Mr Andy Reid. It was different. It was Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes worst game. That's not to say he played terribly.
Speaker 1: He made some great throws throughout the game, but he
Speaker 1: also had two interceptions, first time he's been intercepted all year.
Speaker 1: They just have so many weapons, and um, you're gonna
Speaker 1: hear people say that this was a vintage performance from
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles. It was that lazy analysis. It was anything
Speaker 1: but vintage. Usually when he falls apart, his mechanics are
Speaker 1: so bad that he can't complete basic passes. He threw
Speaker 1: some of the most gorgeous passes in this game he's
Speaker 1: thrown all season and maybe in his career. He threw
Speaker 1: for a career high four and thirty yards. He just
Speaker 1: had a handful of bad turnovers, but he actually threw
Speaker 1: pretty well in this game. Well. I think what would
Speaker 1: probably be vintage was the nature of some of the turnovers.
Speaker 1: Pick six where he seemed to be almost like flicking
Speaker 1: it to the other team, a terrible red zone interception
Speaker 1: where he threw it off his offensive lineman's helmet and
Speaker 1: was deflected for a pick. Those are the type of
Speaker 1: things that you associate with Lake board right when you
Speaker 1: see the highlights that would back up the opinion that
Speaker 1: his vintage. I'm just saying, if you see the whole game,
Speaker 1: he threw some really good passes in this game, which
Speaker 1: normally doesn't happen when he has a bad game. It's
Speaker 1: pretty rare to turn the ball over four times in
Speaker 1: a quarter. One of them was on downs ones a
Speaker 1: fumble too. Interceptions, but that you just don't see that too.
Speaker 1: It right that sequence late in the second quarter where
Speaker 1: they turned the ball over on sounds right at the
Speaker 1: goal line, and then d Ford forces a fumble. I
Speaker 1: don't even put that one on Blake Bortles. But then
Speaker 1: right after that the pick six which might be the
Speaker 1: shortest pick six in NFL history as far as air
Speaker 1: Yard's throne, and then another interception in the end zone
Speaker 1: off of off the guy's helmet. So it was that
Speaker 1: that sequence really killed the Jaguars. You just don't see
Speaker 1: the Jaguars give up thirty points in a game and
Speaker 1: and go wire to wire without getting you know, fill
Speaker 1: aid they were there by Travis Kelsey. Was it the
Speaker 1: Miles jack on Kelsey thing which you mentioned, and you're
Speaker 1: right up the key factor here. I felt bad for
Speaker 1: for Miles Jack because it's got to be hell to
Speaker 1: be covering Travis Kelsey and then peeking into the backfield
Speaker 1: to see what they're doing with Tyreek Hill on preceps,
Speaker 1: pre snap motion. You have to be disciplined enough to
Speaker 1: guard against that and then hang with Travis Kelsey and
Speaker 1: then even if you stay with him, step for step,
Speaker 1: pat Patrick Mahomes just delivers a perfect strike and there's
Speaker 1: nothing I mean, it just feels like welcome to the
Speaker 1: in Kansas City Chicks. Right. No linebacker can do that,
Speaker 1: and that's kind of what we're seeing with Sean McVeigh
Speaker 1: or Andy Reid, whoever can get their matchups of their
Speaker 1: top receivers on the linebackers, they're just being able to
Speaker 1: scheme that before the play even starts. You can't stop that,
Speaker 1: you can stop it. I'm nervous about the Jags. I'm
Speaker 1: always looking for who's going to take out the Patriots
Speaker 1: in the playoffs and we already saw earlier in the season.
Speaker 1: We saw in the playoffs. Uh, Miles Jock, Miles Jack
Speaker 1: got robbed. Uh. They can do it, but they keep
Speaker 1: shooting themselves in their foot the foot and yes, Um
Speaker 1: West you're saying that Bordles played much better than the
Speaker 1: turnovers indicate. But they went, they went to k C,
Speaker 1: and they just weren't up to the task against the
Speaker 1: chief I feel like the team that took out the
Speaker 1: Jaguars is the team that could also potentially take out
Speaker 1: the Patriots in the playoffs. At the Patriots even get
Speaker 1: to them at this thing, Well, they played other next week,
Speaker 1: Chiefs Patriots on Sunday Night Football, and this was kind
Speaker 1: of a game that I think could matter in the
Speaker 1: a f C standings at the end of the year.
Speaker 1: A bit of a separation game because now the now
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are at five and oh, we think the
Speaker 1: Jaguars are going to be a playoff type of team.
Speaker 1: Now they're two games up on the Jaguars. They they
Speaker 1: are a tough home team. I do think they're a
Speaker 1: different team at home than on the road. So if
Speaker 1: they could get a bye, that would be big for them.
Speaker 1: The Patriots have back to back primetime home games. Why
Speaker 1: would you not dish that up if you could possibly
Speaker 1: as a schedulemaker, why would you not go to road? Well,
Speaker 1: it's very at this point, I'm on the road. It's
Speaker 1: very common to do back to back primetime games. That's
Speaker 1: kind of what the NFL does. But yeah, they were
Speaker 1: both at home. To be clear, I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: Blake Bortle has had a good game. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: it's lazy analysis to say that it was just like
Speaker 1: all of his other It wasn't a cliche comically awful.
Speaker 1: But yes, he looked He looked like he had played
Speaker 1: quarterback before. Most times when he was a bad game,
Speaker 1: he looks like a fullback playing quarterback. Let's move on.
Speaker 1: Tannehill back to throw under pressure, moving up, got hit
Speaker 1: from behind. The ball comes those I stooped up. Sam
Speaker 1: Harvard runs it into the end zone, but there are
Speaker 1: two penalty flags near the ten yard lins holding on
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Man. I hate when penalty flags an otherwise
Speaker 1: fine touchdown call. Dan Hard and Dave Lapham w c
Speaker 1: k Y With the call, Sam Hubbard scooped up that bumble,
Speaker 1: rumbled nineteen yards with the clinching touchdown, grallying the Bengals
Speaker 1: from a seventeen point deficit to win seventeen over the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Mark was this a was this more a spirited effort
Speaker 1: by the never say die bangles or a horrendous meltdown
Speaker 1: by the we are who they thought they were Dolphins.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that was Cincinnati's nickname to start, but
Speaker 1: they can adopted, at least for today. It is to
Speaker 1: me chapter two in a two week story about the
Speaker 1: Dolphins that say, there is no way to point to
Speaker 1: evidence that Miami knows how to close a game. Last week,
Speaker 1: they couldn't even get into a critical game against the Patriots,
Speaker 1: and you lose your confidence in them hanging around in
Speaker 1: the a f C. Outside of them sort of an
Speaker 1: outskirt team. Today you have they were the first team
Speaker 1: sort of all year with a seventeen nothing lead on
Speaker 1: Cincinnati that made the Bengals offense look pedestrian, and they
Speaker 1: were handling their business until they utterly crumbled with their
Speaker 1: own mistakes. On offense, Ryan Tannellill Tannehill had a pass
Speaker 1: that sort of bounced off someone's foot when he was hit,
Speaker 1: so I don't want to put it entirely on him,
Speaker 1: but they that turned into a essentially a fumble recovery
Speaker 1: for a touchdown. They melted down soon after with another
Speaker 1: with another fumble that got picked up and run in.
Speaker 1: I mean the Bengals defense which has been lashed on
Speaker 1: the ground, uh week after week. This was their best
Speaker 1: performance of the year. And then Andy Dalton, you can't
Speaker 1: keep the one thing about I think he's certainly helped,
Speaker 1: no doubt he helped. But this this Bengals offense, which
Speaker 1: you know, you could kind of feel this game turning,
Speaker 1: because it's even when you get this version of the
Speaker 1: of the Bengal City where they not they were not
Speaker 1: last year's iteration again last week's against the Falcons, you
Speaker 1: could feel them creeping in and the Dolphins simply held
Speaker 1: the door open for Cincinnati had come back, and it was,
Speaker 1: if you're a Dolphins fan, an incredibly frustrating performance to watch.
Speaker 1: The second half was a team meltdown. So this was
Speaker 1: seventeen to three going into the fourth quarter, Yes, twenty
Speaker 1: four fourth quarter unanswered points by the Bengals, and it
Speaker 1: looked that way too. I mean, they they went three
Speaker 1: and out, interception, lost fumble, interception, end of game on
Speaker 1: offense in the second half, and it's a strange little
Speaker 1: slice of the game and you might say, maybe it's
Speaker 1: not that big of a deal when they were down ten,
Speaker 1: I watched that drive. Okay, you gotta you gotta score
Speaker 1: quickly to try to you know, either do it on
Speaker 1: side kick or kick off and use the timeouts. And
Speaker 1: the Bengal the Dolphins are throwing two yard passes behind
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage on second down and then they're
Speaker 1: taking then an interception the next play, and like they
Speaker 1: seem incapable. And this is a week after week thing,
Speaker 1: whether they're winning or losing, of throwing to the sticks,
Speaker 1: of going down that they'll have two or three shot
Speaker 1: plays a game, and if they hit those, that's great,
Speaker 1: But even in a situation where you have to play fast,
Speaker 1: it's like they're still checking the ball down and not
Speaker 1: moving to your point. The longest completion was a Kenyan
Speaker 1: Drake twenty two yards, which was a catch and run.
Speaker 1: They Tannehill attempted downfield once or twice misfire, and it's
Speaker 1: this is their offense week after week. Kenyan Drake six
Speaker 1: carries for forty six yards. He gets six touches in
Speaker 1: the rushing game. Frank Gore doubles him up in touch.
Speaker 1: We love Frank Gore. I get that everybody loves Frank Gore,
Speaker 1: especially Greg more than maybe he should be allowed to
Speaker 1: love him. But you can love him in as much
Speaker 1: as you want, Greg, don't don't take it that way
Speaker 1: and don't turn it on me like that. But what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is lots going on in your head out
Speaker 1: me and looking up. What I'm saying, Greg, is that
Speaker 1: why is Frank Gore doubling up on Kenyan Drake when
Speaker 1: that guy looks so great last year? When you're fourteen
Speaker 1: points in the third in the fourth quarter, use your
Speaker 1: running game, try to salt away a way. I think
Speaker 1: they're using Kenyan Drake in in the passing game, like
Speaker 1: throwing to him in the backfield and out in the
Speaker 1: flats as an extension of the running game to undergree, Well,
Speaker 1: it didn't work. First place Bengals four and one. They
Speaker 1: deserve it. They look at they look like a first
Speaker 1: place team. Let's move on from the two yard line.
Speaker 1: Girly behind, he will sneak it and he stumbles to
Speaker 1: the rights of search to victory. The Rams are going
Speaker 1: to five and old J B long K s p
Speaker 1: N with the call my neighbor, your neighbor, nice man.
Speaker 1: Sean mcveigh's gutsia fourth down call paid off with the
Speaker 1: game clinching first down rush for Jared Goff. The Rams
Speaker 1: got out of Seattle with a win over a feisty
Speaker 1: Seahawks team. Todd Gurley rush for three touchdowns, covering up
Speaker 1: for a less than dominant performance by Goff. Now in
Speaker 1: the studio, and it's been too long, and I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what everything I see is right. Kevin Patra's back, baby,
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Speaker 1: where it really pays off if you've paid close attention
Speaker 1: to our podcast for a long time for you to
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Speaker 1: you up and the first thing you do is thank
Speaker 1: God for all the one right, for all the all
Speaker 1: all the good things He's given me in life up anyway, Patra,
Speaker 1: welcome back. Take us through that fourth down play, because Uh,
Speaker 1: it takes a major unions to make up move like that,
Speaker 1: does it. Maybe I thought it was pretty obvious. I
Speaker 1: was saying right away that he was okay. So it's
Speaker 1: there's one thirty nine remaining fourth and one. Uh the
Speaker 1: spot was a little short on girl's run on third
Speaker 1: down fourth and one. I thought was I'm surprised they
Speaker 1: didn't review it, frankly. Uh, two point game one nine left.
Speaker 1: He pulls in the punter, brings a punter in, then
Speaker 1: pulls him back out after um a seattle time out,
Speaker 1: and he goes for it. And it was he made
Speaker 1: it by two yards that I think he did. He
Speaker 1: realized what the right move was to play for the
Speaker 1: win once Carol had used up his last time out,
Speaker 1: to like, what's their toothletting? After that? And they were
Speaker 1: they weren't. They weren't throwing the ball that well. Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson was dominating on play action pass more than anything,
Speaker 1: so I think he had faith that his defense could
Speaker 1: get a stop even if But I think in that situation,
Speaker 1: I think that you have to trust that you're gonna
Speaker 1: get one yard to in the game. The games literally
Speaker 1: over after you give That's the thing is that you
Speaker 1: and I've already seen a lot of commentary like what
Speaker 1: does this say more about what he thinks about the defense? No,
Speaker 1: like you have two shots to win the game instead
Speaker 1: of one, Like you're if you don't get the first down,
Speaker 1: you put your defense in a tough spot. But they
Speaker 1: can go win the game for you too. Well. We
Speaker 1: see plenty of offenses that operate in fear. This is
Speaker 1: just not one of them. They they're ultra competent in
Speaker 1: what they can do and in that situation, in any
Speaker 1: other And this was a back and fourth game. There
Speaker 1: were five lead changes. The defenses weren't stopping anyone. The
Speaker 1: Rams didn't punt in the second half. They scored on
Speaker 1: their three drives and then that fourth one they went
Speaker 1: forward on fourth and one. They probably would have scored
Speaker 1: if there was more time in the game there too.
Speaker 1: This is a bit of a war of attrition for
Speaker 1: the Rams. So this is their first real test of
Speaker 1: the season. Cooper Cup went six for ninety and one
Speaker 1: before exiting with concussion symptoms. Uh, same thing happened with
Speaker 1: Cooks who got knocked out. And you hate to see
Speaker 1: that because that's how his season ended last year with
Speaker 1: his arms doing the concussion thing, and you saw it.
Speaker 1: He did not return after he took a hit in
Speaker 1: the first half, So Golf without two of his main
Speaker 1: playmakers was not the same guy. But you still have
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley and Girly handled the business near the goal line.
Speaker 1: Another big touchdown for Girl. Three touchdowns for Girl. He's
Speaker 1: the only guy in the league to score touchdowns in
Speaker 1: every game this year. I think that well moving forward,
Speaker 1: The question about Cooper Cup is huge because he plays
Speaker 1: a huge, big role for Golf in the red zone
Speaker 1: and you could tell once he was out in the
Speaker 1: second half that there he wasn't his confident in his
Speaker 1: other receivers to get open and they leaned on Girly
Speaker 1: there and against a better run defense is going to
Speaker 1: be enough because their red zone offense hasn't been Christine
Speaker 1: through through five games, so their worst offensive performance of
Speaker 1: the season. They still go over thirty points, which means
Speaker 1: five straight games to open the season to go over
Speaker 1: thirty points, joining Peyton Manning's record breaking two thousand thirteen Broncos,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's two thousand pats, tom Brady's two thousand seven Pats,
Speaker 1: and the Greatest Show on Turf, Rams and this year's RAM.
Speaker 1: Those are the only five teams I thought. I personally
Speaker 1: thought golf wasn't that bad. I think I thought he
Speaker 1: was pretty solid here. He was still finding guys wide open,
Speaker 1: running wide open. He was putting balls on guys. He
Speaker 1: was a little shaky in the first half. The two
Speaker 1: picks weren't really on him. One got popped up in
Speaker 1: the air, the other on was on a hail Mary.
Speaker 1: At the end of the half, I thought he played
Speaker 1: solid again. I wouldn't take anything away from him. If
Speaker 1: you are dealing with some concussion issues going forward, their
Speaker 1: schedule lines up well for the Rams. You've got the
Speaker 1: Broncos and forty Niners is your next two opponents. That's nice.
Speaker 1: This loss, I think really drove Pete Carroll a little crazy,
Speaker 1: and you can't blame him. It's such a big game.
Speaker 1: If you win this game, your season looks totally different.
Speaker 1: You run the ball like crazy on the on the Rams,
Speaker 1: Chris Carson and Mike Davis, they're not even using their
Speaker 1: first round pick. Uh. You score thirty one points on
Speaker 1: the Rams and you still find a way to lose
Speaker 1: because of Carroll's defense. And and after the game, he
Speaker 1: was furious about the d J. Fluker holding call. He
Speaker 1: he wasn't willing to throw the officials under the bus,
Speaker 1: just saying like that call to him changed the game
Speaker 1: because if they had picked up a first down or
Speaker 1: two at that point in the game under five minutes left,
Speaker 1: like they had the rams and they've been moving the
Speaker 1: ball and they couldn't get it done. I thought that
Speaker 1: was I didn't think that was a bad call. Frankly,
Speaker 1: I think he I thought he held held Sue pretty hard.
Speaker 1: There there was a few calls they didn't call earlier
Speaker 1: in the game. I mean, like you said that when
Speaker 1: the Seattle was running the ball. They're completely different offense.
Speaker 1: And then we got some big shots. I mean Wilson
Speaker 1: only complete thirteen passes and most of them were way
Speaker 1: down the field. I'm uh, Tyler Locket had three catches
Speaker 1: for nine yards. I mean he was play action bomb
Speaker 1: bombs away was the offensive game plan, and let's move on.
Speaker 1: Want out got a touch starts press self where from
Speaker 1: Bill Hill grow w d v E with the call.
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger and Antonio Brown connected on two second half
Speaker 1: touchdowns and the Steelers pulled away from the Falcons one
Speaker 1: to seventeen. You thanks the Falcons. I thought by many
Speaker 1: to be a serious NFC contender, including market I yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, why am I even picking teams to go
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl at this point? I feel like
Speaker 1: I've worked myself out of that equation. You should do
Speaker 1: what I do. I just don't. Don't involve yourself with
Speaker 1: those picks on the website anymore. Then you never look
Speaker 1: bad that you take a great move with our website
Speaker 1: in general. But I've got to do that at a
Speaker 1: little bit, a little bit by a little bit, all
Speaker 1: right there, one in four now in deep trouble. Kevin Patrick,
Speaker 1: how do you feel about the Steelers after watching this rump? Well,
Speaker 1: I think they boiled down to the run game in
Speaker 1: the first half that kept him afloat until Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: and Ben Roethlisberger figured out their connection. They those two
Speaker 1: struggled in the first half. Ben was I think two
Speaker 1: for eight targeting Antonio Brown in the first half of
Speaker 1: fifteen yards and then the second half explosion. But the
Speaker 1: key to the game to me was James Conner churning
Speaker 1: out yards at a ridiculous rate hundred ten on twenty
Speaker 1: one carries. He was the engine of the offense until
Speaker 1: the passing game and then once the play action started
Speaker 1: working in the second half in Antonio Brown, they could
Speaker 1: take some shots deep, but in the first half it
Speaker 1: was James Conner. I think he had touched the ball
Speaker 1: seven of the first eight eight offensive plays as they drove.
Speaker 1: The Steelers scored their first touch shot on the opening
Speaker 1: drive of the year. They're kind of showing you what
Speaker 1: they how much respect they have for Atlanta's defense at
Speaker 1: this stage of the season when they roll in so
Speaker 1: intentionally with Connor before even really unrated putting the passing
Speaker 1: game out there. Connor has been a little hot and
Speaker 1: cold this season, but this is another five total yards.
Speaker 1: He helps them both in the receiving and the rushing game. West.
Speaker 1: We know the report that came out last week about
Speaker 1: left Bell. I mean, how do you think this is
Speaker 1: this is gonna shake out? Because Connor is a player.
Speaker 1: He's not left Bell, but he's a player. I honestly
Speaker 1: have no idea. I mean, we can all guess, but
Speaker 1: if you're if you're in that locker room, do you
Speaker 1: want James Connor to be just a benched afterthought? As
Speaker 1: soon as Levi I think he. I think he stays
Speaker 1: as a pretty good part of the offense, and Levan
Speaker 1: Bell kind of gets his cake and eats it too.
Speaker 1: He doesn't get too much wear and tear on his
Speaker 1: body because James Connor is going to be taking some
Speaker 1: of his snaps, and I don't think Bell would mind
Speaker 1: that one bit. M and Connors. You're running back of
Speaker 1: the future, That's all I'm cure, Marky Lucknet I didn't,
Speaker 1: I would be I have a different look at my
Speaker 1: face had I west West West five and oh there
Speaker 1: you go. Great start to the season, thanks buddy. I
Speaker 1: mean it feels ripe for a massive second half of
Speaker 1: the year. Tumble typically work, so just you know, regression
Speaker 1: to the mean hashtag stay humble. Some teams got some
Speaker 1: teams going defeat it, he says, it's happened before. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying that's in the range of possibilities. I think
Speaker 1: that with the Steelers able to run the ball, they
Speaker 1: put their their defense in a better spot. Today they
Speaker 1: were they were getting huge amounts of pressure on Matt Ryan,
Speaker 1: who would looked terrible today. U J J or yeah,
Speaker 1: t J. Watt, I'm sorry. With three sacks that that
Speaker 1: actually looked like three sacks, not like week one where
Speaker 1: they were three accidental sacks. Uh. He caught him accidental.
Speaker 1: I don't know about uh, but I'm just saying, like
Speaker 1: this this week, they they've got loads of pressure on
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan and he he kind of crumbled. He looked terriblely,
Speaker 1: couldn't find a any receivers open at all. He was
Speaker 1: thrown behind guys in the dirt. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: West put it well. On Friday, mentioned that he was
Speaker 1: indoors for the last couple of weeks and he goes outdoors.
Speaker 1: He looked like it looked like Week one. Matt Ryan
Speaker 1: out there. It's understandable why they're struggling. But this has
Speaker 1: to be the most disappointing season for any team, is
Speaker 1: there any And I know, I know, I know it's
Speaker 1: week We're going into week six and mathematically almost anything
Speaker 1: on the planet as possible. But at what point do
Speaker 1: we look at the Falcons and say, I'm sorry, but
Speaker 1: the formulas broken for this season, not on that defense
Speaker 1: two weeks ago, thank you, it's been the same. Is terrible,
Speaker 1: But when a couple of games all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you're probably and they just don't have to, probably not. Eric,
Speaker 1: I gotta say, um, and I know you're not. You're
Speaker 1: not the electrician here, and I'm not feeling well, so
Speaker 1: you just have to bear with me. This light that's
Speaker 1: above Patra, it's flickering on and off. I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm in a sauce equal. What do we have to
Speaker 1: do here? What can we do? Um? You know, I
Speaker 1: don't know, Probably must not in the electricians union. That's
Speaker 1: sort of out of my Who do we have to bury?
Speaker 1: Is what I'm saying. Either some of the methods I
Speaker 1: think that you know that George Bush, the second would
Speaker 1: use to try to get information out of terrorists. So yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't even know what the first was doing. So
Speaker 1: this part of band's ongoing fight with the building manager.
Speaker 1: Oh that building manager, he's a punk. Alright, one more
Speaker 1: game with Kevin Patrick and talk about your lines. Let's
Speaker 1: do It's always fun. Let's go. Stafford's got the snakes, looks, looks, looks.
Speaker 1: Rose end zone touchdown the truck Lions Market. Jes had
Speaker 1: to layoff the holiday in and he did it. Dan
Speaker 1: Miller w j R. With the call. Matthew Stafford through
Speaker 1: two touchdowns the Garrett blunt ran for two. Where are
Speaker 1: you being boy lifting the Detroit Lions? Soe win over
Speaker 1: the Packers West. The Lions have added a roller coaster
Speaker 1: first five weeks and this is their second win against
Speaker 1: the premium opponent. Wait, the Packers are a premium opponent, right,
Speaker 1: yeah they are? Okay, I was checking because I don't
Speaker 1: know how good the Packers playing this year. They um
Speaker 1: they were the more talented team. They racked up about
Speaker 1: two sixty more yards than the Lions and still lost
Speaker 1: because they had a team wide meltdown in the entire
Speaker 1: first half. Mason Crosby missed three field goals, Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: lost two fumbles. Uh, the rookie receivers couldn't separate it
Speaker 1: from the Lions coverage. Uh, really bad punt sit suation
Speaker 1: in which it hit. It may have hit the back
Speaker 1: of Kevin King, Packers cornerback, and then recovered by the Lions,
Speaker 1: like right at the goal line. It hit a lion first.
Speaker 1: It looked like it hit a lion and not Kevin
Speaker 1: King first. So it was an unfortunate thing for the Packers.
Speaker 1: But it was just one of those first half where
Speaker 1: any mistake that seemed like it could have been made.
Speaker 1: The Packers made it. Patrack, Yeah, I I think the
Speaker 1: lines loocked into another one here. This is I mean,
Speaker 1: this is a team that hasn't didn't trailed to Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers or Tom Brady for one second of a game
Speaker 1: of two games, but lost to the Jets, forty Niners,
Speaker 1: and Cowboys. I mean, this is an eight and eight
Speaker 1: team that that's probably gonna be six and ten at
Speaker 1: the end of the year. So I thought that they
Speaker 1: just got lucky with a lot. I was calling the
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers was gonna come back this whole the whole
Speaker 1: second half. I thought it was Lions fan, You're that's
Speaker 1: sort of just in the blood stream at all times
Speaker 1: for you. I mean, it should have happened. They were there,
Speaker 1: We were right there to eight thirty in the morning
Speaker 1: before the game even started. You're not gonna guess this
Speaker 1: by looking at the box score, but I thought the
Speaker 1: Lions receivers and cornerbacks outplayed the opposition um their counterparts
Speaker 1: in Green Bay. Jimmy Graham whipped on a couple of
Speaker 1: jump jump balls in the end zone. Davante Adams was
Speaker 1: really the only wide receiver that impressed me in this game.
Speaker 1: For for Detroit, for Green Bay and then Kenny Golladay
Speaker 1: was a monster for the Lions. He had another forty
Speaker 1: five yard touchdown that was nullified by a Frank Ragnow penalty.
Speaker 1: He caught it go on for about a hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty and feel any one of their wide receivers in
Speaker 1: Detroit could go off at any time. Not having a
Speaker 1: good season, right, I'm I'm wondering if he makes like
Speaker 1: a couple of great plays and misses a lot of gimmes,
Speaker 1: like why is the offense for the line And I
Speaker 1: know they won this game and they put up points,
Speaker 1: but they don't even top three hundred yards. I kind
Speaker 1: of I am not understand why their offense hasn't been
Speaker 1: very good this season. The lines. Yeah, yeah, I I agree,
Speaker 1: because they had the wide receivers to do it. Uh,
Speaker 1: Stafford hasn't played as well. Carry On Johnson left this game,
Speaker 1: I think with an ankle injury, but said he was
Speaker 1: all right after the game. Um, I agree with you.
Speaker 1: Their offense should be better, and I think the fans
Speaker 1: are starting to get upset with Cooter. Yeah. I'm one
Speaker 1: question for Greg Blooms off the couter. Greg, you're very
Speaker 1: into the happenings in the Desert Um the play call
Speaker 1: man Dan Miller over under on Dan Miller's in the
Speaker 1: United States. I'm putting it at I'll take the under. Well,
Speaker 1: so Greg your answer, I guess where I mean. It
Speaker 1: seems like there's no reference but according to well, according
Speaker 1: to the Internet, who knows how accurate this is, but
Speaker 1: there are four roughly forty eight thousand John Smith's. But
Speaker 1: that's the that's the most cliche basic name in the game.
Speaker 1: And Miller feels like, what's the original part of that name?
Speaker 1: The first part of the last It's like, didn't but
Speaker 1: you're a dance You got subtle shade against me. It's actually,
Speaker 1: I honestly it's not thinking of your first name in this.
Speaker 1: But um, we'll table that. Let's table that. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about the kicker situation. Mason Crosby has been there forever
Speaker 1: in Green Bay, since two thousand seven, in fact, and
Speaker 1: he's had a nice career. He's got a ring. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's got the trust of Aaron Rodgers. And the reason
Speaker 1: you know that is because Aaron Rodgers spoke hi lee
Speaker 1: of his kicker after you had one of the worst
Speaker 1: games even by a season that has been at times
Speaker 1: noted for a terrible kicker play one for five and
Speaker 1: an extra pointment, So he misses four field goals and
Speaker 1: an extra point in a in a game they lose
Speaker 1: by eight points. Here's that Aaron Rodgers had to say
Speaker 1: about his kicker after the game. I think he's one
Speaker 1: of the greatest kickers of all time. Um. I always
Speaker 1: said him and Robbie Gould, what they do in the
Speaker 1: elements over the years is is some of the finest
Speaker 1: kicking that I've seen in my time. Um. Obviously he's disappointed.
Speaker 1: I don't think he expected this. We have a ton
Speaker 1: of faith in him. He's done it for a long time,
Speaker 1: made some big kicks for us over the years. Um,
Speaker 1: they got to clean the operation up, the snap hold
Speaker 1: and then he's gotta make them. So that was a
Speaker 1: major factor in this game as well. And some kickers
Speaker 1: are gone. They hit the street after a game like that.
Speaker 1: It sounds like Crosby is gonna hang around. There's some
Speaker 1: history here. In two thousand twelve he went through an
Speaker 1: den where he was working on his technique for a
Speaker 1: while and Mike McCarthy stayed with him. Uh, and then
Speaker 1: he got a contract restruct or a contract, new contracts
Speaker 1: shortly after that. So yeah, they can. They love Mason Cross.
Speaker 1: I think him mentioning Robbie Gold is instructive there as well,
Speaker 1: because Robbie went through had one bad year in Chicago,
Speaker 1: they cut him loose and then he's been great. Ever said,
Speaker 1: so they can, that's instructive. They can just keep, you know,
Speaker 1: sticking with this McCarthy Mason Crosby combo on the way
Speaker 1: to another first round exit. I mean, I knew this
Speaker 1: was coming. How does Crosby get swept up in that?
Speaker 1: Kevin Patrick, thank you, thank joining us. Uh, it's great
Speaker 1: to be You've said it all, you did it all.
Speaker 1: I've done everything I can do and more than congratulations
Speaker 1: again on being a husband and soon the father and
Speaker 1: your team winning. Are you Are you announcing information to
Speaker 1: me that I am not aware of? Wo? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like, did you know that? Or I have
Speaker 1: nothing to say at this point beyond whatever already said.
Speaker 1: I hope you haven't triple sourced it because they're not
Speaker 1: having more questions. Devin Patrick coming at you. Let's hear
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Speaker 1: water on his laptop. I saw it best, grug ros
Speaker 1: and tall. That was a water spill. West turn it off.
Speaker 1: Clumsily turn it off, knocks over the water onto Patra's laptop,
Speaker 1: and this could be devastating. That's the key, as you
Speaker 1: have to turn it off. The media is the kid.
Speaker 1: As long as possible, head straight to turn it off.
Speaker 1: Hold the button, now you hold the button. Oh this
Speaker 1: is so big, this is so big. What's about to happen?
Speaker 1: Like putting your phone in a bag of rice. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's off. Now keep it off for as long as
Speaker 1: you can. Now, throw the laptop directly in the garbage camp.
Speaker 1: That is step two. Do what Greg does and get
Speaker 1: a new computer by morning. I haven't had a new
Speaker 1: computer in years. Let's let's let's take let's take your
Speaker 1: thoughts on this, walk us through where you're thinking right now,
Speaker 1: because obviously this is on you directly. I saw with
Speaker 1: my own two eyes you knocked the water directly onto
Speaker 1: Patrick's laptop. Your thoughts. It was bonehead and mistake by me.
Speaker 1: I didn't see the water behind my laptop, and I
Speaker 1: pushed my laptop over to rejoin my seat, and uh,
Speaker 1: disaster ensued. All my fault and l throat to Greg, Greg,
Speaker 1: you you have a lot of experience in this field.
Speaker 1: You've lost several laptops in your career to water spills.
Speaker 1: What are you thinking right now? Is it good just
Speaker 1: to be on the outside looking in for once? Uh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying this. The frantic nature of West clean. I've
Speaker 1: never seen West try to help someone else. This is
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Speaker 1: Let's move up and this characters sixty three yards? Is
Speaker 1: that the top? That is incredible? Who? Jonathy Mick Mix
Speaker 1: and Eugene Robinson. Jim is okay with the call w
Speaker 1: PT Graham connected on a career along sixty three yard
Speaker 1: field goal with one second to play, stunning the New
Speaker 1: York Giants. The Carolina Panthers win thirty three thirty one
Speaker 1: at the gun. The kicker heroaks wiped away a huge
Speaker 1: comeback by the Giants, who trailed fourteen points in the
Speaker 1: second half. Wipe that away, took the lead, but still
Speaker 1: went down because you know, drilled it hit the net people. Greg,
Speaker 1: Can we start by killing Caroline as clock management before
Speaker 1: the miracle? Yeah? I don't. I don't think the results
Speaker 1: should change the fact that Ron Rivera and the offensive
Speaker 1: coaching staff too, and the Panthers completely botched the end
Speaker 1: of the game situation they had thirty seconds to work
Speaker 1: with and then they end up kicking a sixty three
Speaker 1: yard field goal. But when you got a kicker like
Speaker 1: a no, you can look good in the end. And
Speaker 1: in the end, Ron Rivera was saved also by his
Speaker 1: own riverboat, Ron uh Moniker and that sort of attitude.
Speaker 1: A fourth and one call with about three twenty two
Speaker 1: left in the game, which the Panthers absolutely needed, Cam
Speaker 1: Newton delivered a dime. It was up and down game
Speaker 1: for both quarterbacks, big mistakes by both, big time throws
Speaker 1: by both, but cam Newton was ultimately better at the
Speaker 1: very end on that fourth down throw and then on
Speaker 1: the final drive getting the ball the DJ more and
Speaker 1: then Christian McCaffrey to set up the game winner, Dan
Speaker 1: and I went down to the lab and indulged in
Speaker 1: a little kicker talk this after that, it's quite fun.
Speaker 1: We've decided that Graham Gano is number two in our
Speaker 1: confidence ranking, right behind I mean Justin Tucker, obviously the
Speaker 1: best kicker in the NFL. But if you've got the
Speaker 1: game on the line, Graham Gonos the second guy. But
Speaker 1: that's the guy. It's it's a bit of a drop
Speaker 1: off for me, but it's still it's a huge drop
Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with the silver Mini. You get past
Speaker 1: number five in this list, and the drop off to
Speaker 1: just a bunch of average jabrones is quite steep. This
Speaker 1: was such a awful loss for the Giants, who ended
Speaker 1: that infernal us UH streak of not scoring thirty points,
Speaker 1: and they did it with a comeback. They did it
Speaker 1: by and in a week after Odell Beckham ran his
Speaker 1: mouth and and UH led to more headlines UH saying
Speaker 1: you know, all sorts of things. I find it interesting
Speaker 1: that the Giants, you know, he is that team and
Speaker 1: they are they are completely in deference to him at
Speaker 1: all times. I found it interesting that the game after
Speaker 1: he mouths off UH, not only does he get targeted
Speaker 1: a ton, which he should because he's Odell Beckham, but
Speaker 1: they also run a trick play that leads to him
Speaker 1: throwing a touchdown. Uh, and he made he made the
Speaker 1: throw and he can give that to him as well.
Speaker 1: But like he is, it seems like it's almost like
Speaker 1: they're held hostage by Beckham on some level. Um And
Speaker 1: I don't want to kill him for it, because I
Speaker 1: understand that he's speaking from frustration, but you get the
Speaker 1: feeling they're scared to him a little bit. I it
Speaker 1: almost feels like Pat Schermer being brought into New York.
Speaker 1: What part of the Big Responsibility was a course correction
Speaker 1: from last year's apocalyptic pr disaster where the Eli Benching
Speaker 1: combined with all the Odell Beckham issues together made it
Speaker 1: one of the more inglorious Giant seasons of our lifetime.
Speaker 1: And Scherer comes in exactly. Schermer comes in, and it's
Speaker 1: very deferential Odell Beckham, although I do like him sticking
Speaker 1: up for his player not letting the media do more
Speaker 1: with that. But then the Eli Manning side of it too.
Speaker 1: It's like these are sort of some of the issues
Speaker 1: the Giants have. Odell Beckham isn't the one holding this franchise.
Speaker 1: It's the quarterback and it has been for over two years,
Speaker 1: and they messed up. McAdoo was the first one to
Speaker 1: finally admit the quarterbacks the problem, and he called a
Speaker 1: PR nightmare, but only because the Giants let the media
Speaker 1: dictate the story. And it was a PR nightmare because
Speaker 1: that city is different than any other. But it was
Speaker 1: too long coming to make. And this is a game
Speaker 1: where Eli man And hit some throws, certainly in the
Speaker 1: second half of this game, but he also had two
Speaker 1: ugly interceptions, so did Cam Newton for that matter, but
Speaker 1: two really bad ones by Eli Manning in the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter before they end up going on this comeback run.
Speaker 1: I I don't mind that they targeted Odell Beckham fourteen times,
Speaker 1: like that's what Antonio Brown got this weekend. That's that's
Speaker 1: like the history of great receivers throughout history. Yeah, you complain,
Speaker 1: and the offense did their job. Ultimately, the defense had
Speaker 1: about four different chances to get a stop against the
Speaker 1: Panthers and they couldn't. At the end of the game,
Speaker 1: and before I know, the rootless room enjoys kicking Eli
Speaker 1: while he's down. I just wanna I just want to
Speaker 1: add also before you say they blew it, go watch
Speaker 1: what Saclan market who did in this game. And maybe, yes,
Speaker 1: maybe they should have dres after the quarterback this year,
Speaker 1: and and they went with the kid. But that guy,
Speaker 1: he has a transformative effect on that offense. And the
Speaker 1: touchdown that he scored to put them ahead, their defense
Speaker 1: led him down, and you know, you gotta give him
Speaker 1: credit what he pulled off. The kid is different and special,
Speaker 1: and I don't think that was a bad draft pick
Speaker 1: by them. I agree that he's special and the criticism
Speaker 1: of him through the first five weeks of the season
Speaker 1: have been head scratching. Just like, watch the guy play, right,
Speaker 1: he he's great, But it was still a bad pick
Speaker 1: because you could have taken a quarterback. We don't need
Speaker 1: to relitigate that every week. But you can point out
Speaker 1: that the running game is not good. So that's like
Speaker 1: a that's like a big factor. One of the reasons
Speaker 1: they didn't score in the first half of this game
Speaker 1: is because sa Kuon Barkley is getting negative run after
Speaker 1: negative run. That's largely the offensive line. He had a
Speaker 1: thirty yard run in this game. His other fourteen runs
Speaker 1: one for sixteen yards, So you're in a lot of
Speaker 1: long yardage situations where you throw the ball the sea
Speaker 1: kuon Barkley and that works out. But the running game
Speaker 1: is not any better really this year than it was
Speaker 1: a year. But I think it's not far from Ezekiel
Speaker 1: Elliott through the air. But that was the knock on
Speaker 1: Barkley coming into the NFL was that you're gonna get
Speaker 1: that special long run that changes the game, but then
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a cluster of short yardage fronts too.
Speaker 1: And I don't want to talk and circles about the
Speaker 1: Eli situation, but it's like you can't let the running
Speaker 1: back off the hook. Is the offensive line sucks, but
Speaker 1: then kill the quarterback. And I think it was a
Speaker 1: terrible pick and and the Panthers have found we should
Speaker 1: give him some credit. They found different ways to win.
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure what this Panther's team is yet.
Speaker 1: They haven't been dominant on offense, but they're three and one.
Speaker 1: Oho oh Mark, I am not three and one in
Speaker 1: the locks, but I have gained another win well by
Speaker 1: correctly diagnosing this affair. Do you guys want to see here?
Speaker 1: The Spanish language call it was fun, Dan Miller, Graham
Speaker 1: Gonno with a Spanish language call god log dog dog
Speaker 1: by the way, no different on the call the overthrow
Speaker 1: Coudeta Bolivia. But he take note, Whites next snap is good,
Speaker 1: the hold is down House He's got plenty of lagging
Speaker 1: is up and it is. It is good and the
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills win it. They knock off the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 1: Stephen has a forty six yarder. The Bills win it
Speaker 1: thirteen to twelve. House money indeed, Wow, John Murpy Good
Speaker 1: calls today Mark that one's w g R. Stephen Housegate
Speaker 1: had a forty six yarders time expired. The Bills a
Speaker 1: thirteen twelve upset win over the Titans. On Sunday, Mark,
Speaker 1: the Bills have now sandwiched to shut out loss to
Speaker 1: the path with big winds over the Vikings and Titans.
Speaker 1: Sorry the Titoons. Yeah, it's an example that for a
Speaker 1: big chunk of teams in this league. Whoever, we're super
Speaker 1: excited about tonight, fast forward seven days from now, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna be thinking completely different because what Tennessee did
Speaker 1: against the Eagles, for me, took them to a whole
Speaker 1: new level in terms of how I saw that team
Speaker 1: and what's going on. I don't think that's necessarily untrue,
Speaker 1: but it's the example of Oh, here come the Bills,
Speaker 1: and that little mysterious win over the Vikings had nothing
Speaker 1: to do with their team or this football season except
Speaker 1: that Jerry Hughes and this defensive front seven absolutely dominated
Speaker 1: the Titans during large sections of today's games. So in
Speaker 1: many ways, it was like that Vikings win, and it's
Speaker 1: this defense in Buffalo is if you're gonna wal roll
Speaker 1: in there, it's you're going to have to deal with
Speaker 1: this because your your quarterback. Josh Allen through for eighty
Speaker 1: two yards, had a wonderful scramble for a touchdown that
Speaker 1: only Josh Allen can kind of do. But their's offense
Speaker 1: is outside of I thought the one uptick for Buffalo
Speaker 1: that helped him down the stretch and helped create this
Speaker 1: win was that we finally saw Leshawn McCoy but also
Speaker 1: Chris Ivory. And it's not the most mind blowing box score,
Speaker 1: but they had a couple of big runs that moved
Speaker 1: the sticks and sealed this victory down the stretch from
Speaker 1: a Titans team that could not get out of its
Speaker 1: own way. Like the past three years of this podcast,
Speaker 1: has been us occasionally getting excited about the Titans and
Speaker 1: then Dan being undefeated in his skepticism of them coming
Speaker 1: off a big win. Show it to me for like
Speaker 1: two or three straight weeks and they never do it.
Speaker 1: Spelled dangerous this game. We talked about it as a
Speaker 1: trap game on Thursday. They got another big game coming
Speaker 1: up next week, and they this is you can't if
Speaker 1: you want to be taken seriously in the a f C.
Speaker 1: You don't go to a C. You don't go to
Speaker 1: Buffalo and scored twelve points and lose. It's a different
Speaker 1: receiver every week drops a perfect pass from Mariota that
Speaker 1: could change the game. Nick Williams did it today on
Speaker 1: the goal line, a deep throw that probably would have
Speaker 1: put this game out of reach just the way the
Speaker 1: offenses were, but he he dropped it and they and
Speaker 1: they're just one of those teams. I think I counted,
Speaker 1: depending on what happens Sunday night, more than half of
Speaker 1: the league is going to have two or three losses.
Speaker 1: So it's like there's nineteen teams in the league, eighteen
Speaker 1: nineteen depending on how it because that it's like it
Speaker 1: depends on how you want to look at it. They're
Speaker 1: just in this big fat middle where there's been some good.
Speaker 1: It's like the Packers, the entire NFC North, other than
Speaker 1: the Bears, the entire a f C East. It depends
Speaker 1: on how you want to look at them. It's depending
Speaker 1: on the week. They could be oh in five right
Speaker 1: now or or five and now it's ridiculous. I do
Speaker 1: like the Bills defense. I think that like they're not
Speaker 1: they're not complete. They're not entire complete, but they're every
Speaker 1: one week. I don't know, you know, it's hard to
Speaker 1: diagnose them. Also, but if you thought five weeks in
Speaker 1: that they would have dominated the Titans and Vikings, you'd
Speaker 1: say this is not it's been the Packers. Really, they've
Speaker 1: played well three straight weeks. They didn't start out the
Speaker 1: season yours. That's about as in today's NFL. Anytime you
Speaker 1: can hold a team to twenty two point, especially when
Speaker 1: you have no offense, I'm just saying they're competitive. They
Speaker 1: him the twenty two points because the Packers receivers dropped
Speaker 1: deep balls that would have given him like thirty five points.
Speaker 1: Quick aside, Greg has nothing to do with this game,
Speaker 1: but an update on a comment by James lofton that
Speaker 1: caught your ear and certainly caught mine today. Yeah, do
Speaker 1: we have a clip? I don't know. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna have to help me out here.
Speaker 1: Actually was about a show or a movie or something.
Speaker 1: James Lofton. I live in a perpetual present, and after
Speaker 1: that it's all just to the wind. James Lofton said
Speaker 1: on the airwaves today broadcasting that he, uh, he is,
Speaker 1: watched the pilot for Godfriend, not once, but twice. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. I should have remembered that that was memorable
Speaker 1: part of this game. Uh that Well, James Lofton wasn't
Speaker 1: doing this game. I don't know they he said he
Speaker 1: was in the He was in the hotel, I believe,
Speaker 1: and they were showing a replay, so he had saw
Speaker 1: it the first time around. He's in the hotel Saturday,
Speaker 1: just killing time. You gotta watch God Friend and me
Speaker 1: again saw that pilot a second. What is God Friend
Speaker 1: of Me? It's a high concept comedy on CBS is
Speaker 1: a primetime block this season about a man who starts
Speaker 1: getting uh friend, gets friend requested by God himself. Seems believable,
Speaker 1: and then um, I believe, starts getting friend requests from
Speaker 1: other people that need his help. Sounds like willing suspension
Speaker 1: of disbelief might be an issue for this show. There's
Speaker 1: been a hole for me ever since Scorpion went off
Speaker 1: the air, and I think God friend of me's got
Speaker 1: a shot and James Lofton is opening the door for
Speaker 1: me to walk on throw. I cannot think of There
Speaker 1: are ten thousand other things I will do before tracking
Speaker 1: this television show. So a deity sent this man a
Speaker 1: friend request h yeah, God himself. People get paid to
Speaker 1: come up with these concepts. Let's move on getting paid
Speaker 1: a lot. Who this is to win it? Snap his back,
Speaker 1: fall down and kick on the way line drive. The
Speaker 1: kick is good with two suckers locked it over time
Speaker 1: up up water a line drive that almost said you
Speaker 1: paid on it as they went over the crossbar and
Speaker 1: the Proms bent the Ravens over time twelve to nine.
Speaker 1: The officials are telling the players to get off the field.
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I think the Ravens were offside too.
Speaker 1: That is the bold game. Don't rain on my parade,
Speaker 1: Doug Jacon, God's a Brown fan, folks. Jim Donovan w
Speaker 1: k r K with the call. Greg's Joseph the rookie kicker,
Speaker 1: thirty seven yard field goal that kind of knuckled just
Speaker 1: over the crossbar. It was tipped right now, how could that?
Speaker 1: I'll be timped. It had to be anyway, it went
Speaker 1: over and it gave the Browns a twelve nine win
Speaker 1: over the Ravens. Greg This was the Brown's first win
Speaker 1: on a Sunday in years. It wasn't pretty, but they
Speaker 1: proved once again that no matter the opponent, they will
Speaker 1: compete and sometimes sometimes yes they'll win. Yeah, against the
Speaker 1: team that looked about as good as any team in
Speaker 1: the a f C going into this week. I am
Speaker 1: just taken by their two draft picks. You know, you
Speaker 1: have two picks in the top five. They've blown so
Speaker 1: many draft picks over the years, and they won this
Speaker 1: game because Baker Mayfield was able to withstand a ton
Speaker 1: of pressure from the Ravens and kept throwing. Wasn't all perfect,
Speaker 1: but a lot of the things he does are just
Speaker 1: like next level. The good plays that he makes are
Speaker 1: so good that you really start believing. And the way
Speaker 1: that he competed throughout the game despite all that pressure.
Speaker 1: And then Denzel Ward, who a lot of people really
Speaker 1: picked on and has been in the right place at
Speaker 1: the right time sometimes, but had a great interception on
Speaker 1: the goal line, blocked a field goal, and then had
Speaker 1: some key pass deflections and did a great job in
Speaker 1: coverage against Michael Crabtree for the most part. And Crabtree
Speaker 1: had at a disastrous game for for the Ravens. And
Speaker 1: you just see the future here for the Browns two
Speaker 1: two and one and they could be five. And oh
Speaker 1: that Ward pick. I'll never forget because this happened so
Speaker 1: often with any team that struggles, and people have these
Speaker 1: You conceive notions about the front office being a total
Speaker 1: disaster when they passed on Bradley Chubb for Denzel Ward.
Speaker 1: In our newsroom, this collective sigh of groans, as if
Speaker 1: some as if instead of journalists and writers and reporters
Speaker 1: and a bunch of television people, the room is actually
Speaker 1: filled with two hundred actual NFL scouts that know anything
Speaker 1: at all. And you find out that instead they pick
Speaker 1: someone who fits perfectly into the defense and has been
Speaker 1: a difference maker in every single game form. He also
Speaker 1: blocked a kick himself today that that was a game
Speaker 1: changing turn of events for second block kick for Justin Tucker.
Speaker 1: You boy in yeah, in in defense of the newsroom.
Speaker 1: In the past ten years, every time the Browns have
Speaker 1: done something unconventional it was the wrong move, they will
Speaker 1: They're constantly, constantly defense of themselves. So they that's that's enough.
Speaker 1: I mean, that is they they earned that reputation. But
Speaker 1: what they're doing now is they're they're making picks that
Speaker 1: don't go the wrong way. And you look at their
Speaker 1: number one pick last year, Myles Garrett, and you look
Speaker 1: at Denzel Ward, and you look at Baker Mayfield. No
Speaker 1: longer will people just assumed they're blowing it. They just
Speaker 1: need to hit on a couple of these, and that's
Speaker 1: what they're starting to do. It looks like they transformed
Speaker 1: the franchise with those two picks, and the Browns went
Speaker 1: from being in the first week or two, in my mind,
Speaker 1: one of the least watchable teams. Too. Now I'll probably
Speaker 1: go home and immediately put on this game on game
Speaker 1: pass because I want to see what Baker Mayfield does.
Speaker 1: Certainly wasn't you know, the most entertaining throughout Obviously, you know,
Speaker 1: twelve to nine kind of speaks for itself. But the
Speaker 1: way that their defense has competed week after week, and
Speaker 1: I know last week wasn't wasn't their best week, but
Speaker 1: for the most part, Greg Williams is getting good play
Speaker 1: out of a lot of different players. Jamie Collins had
Speaker 1: a big day today. I thought Jabrill Peppers made a difference.
Speaker 1: And there were about four different times the Ravens had
Speaker 1: a chance to go win the game. They had the
Speaker 1: ball in a good spot and you figured that's where
Speaker 1: the Browns were gonna lose, and for the most part
Speaker 1: they punted. Michael Crabtree essentially dropped the throw that was
Speaker 1: a little too hot and a little too high from
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco that would have won the game for the
Speaker 1: Ravens that had so the Browns got a little four
Speaker 1: and it I feel like the Browns have been a
Speaker 1: little unlucky on some of their losses. This one they
Speaker 1: maybe got a little lucky and it all evens out.
Speaker 1: They're probably where they should be there at two two
Speaker 1: and one team. I wouldn't be concerned if for Baltimore
Speaker 1: side of it, their own defense, which I think came
Speaker 1: into the game allowing like two point three points per
Speaker 1: game in the second half, nearly did the same today.
Speaker 1: And they are completely one of the better defenses in
Speaker 1: the a f C. That's three overtime games for the
Speaker 1: Browns in the first five weeks. It has been a
Speaker 1: roller coaster, but you're getting dubs. Mark, you got two
Speaker 1: dubs now. I think if you come if you looked
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year and said you're two
Speaker 1: two and one, you couldn't have asked for anything more
Speaker 1: for a team that had no idea how to win
Speaker 1: a game. I was a little bit nervous. You're tied
Speaker 1: with the Steelers too, and you're in Bayfield's delivered those
Speaker 1: two wins. I was a little bit nervous, Mark when
Speaker 1: you were watching the game, and I was thinking about
Speaker 1: if they if they don't win this game, how will
Speaker 1: the podcast go today? So on that left, I mean,
Speaker 1: don't I have practice of attempting to do a somewhat
Speaker 1: uh you know, put together show amidst defeats. I think
Speaker 1: there's a big track gret attached. I'm just saying the
Speaker 1: show is better in fact sometimes though I know, but
Speaker 1: it's like listen, I mean, I don't know what to
Speaker 1: make of this either. It's all bizarre. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of like by the Mark somehow annoyed by that uh,
Speaker 1: I want to ask, there's been a lot of kicker talk. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot always should important important musician. Could the Browns
Speaker 1: be the rare team with a little foresight to cut
Speaker 1: a kicker after a game winning field goal, because, let's
Speaker 1: face it, I guess my question would be the kick
Speaker 1: was terrible. He missed after and not talking about you're
Speaker 1: not talking about the coaching sty have to do something
Speaker 1: like that. But who, by the way, and this could
Speaker 1: be wrong, but he was bad after he hits the field.
Speaker 1: Need a game manager, you know, they need to bring
Speaker 1: back Sashi to do to be a special game management
Speaker 1: consult After hits the field goal, he was holding up
Speaker 1: two seconds letting everyone know that the overtime is not
Speaker 1: over yet. It's like the game's over. Yeah, no, it's
Speaker 1: it's that's not been in Cleveland anywhere close to his skill.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. Good Win, Mark Karl has room,
Speaker 1: nice cut back. Crow Well Trowel chewing up yards down
Speaker 1: the sunline. Isaiah Trowell tucksdown Jets seventies seven yards. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I ain't. Eagle and Dan Fouts, who, by the way,
Speaker 1: I have to say, quite enjoyed their work today and
Speaker 1: in general, The Bird and the Beard are one of
Speaker 1: the best play by players been celebrated both in the
Speaker 1: studio and out on the town by some of them
Speaker 1: do not bad mouth Iron Eagle in front of Mark Seslick.
Speaker 1: Isaiah Crowell, the former Brown and Um male booty wipe
Speaker 1: spokesman brand for a franchise record two nineteen yards and
Speaker 1: what including that seventy seven yard touchdown and Sam Donald
Speaker 1: through two touchdown passes to Robby Anderson, including a seventy
Speaker 1: six yard or He threw three touchdowns overall. The Jets
Speaker 1: snap at three game losing streak sixteen win over the
Speaker 1: Broncos on Sunday. Um talked about it in the preview show.
Speaker 1: Needed to see something from the Jets, needed to see
Speaker 1: something from Jeremy Bates, the offensive coordinator, and most importantly,
Speaker 1: you needed to see something from Sam Donald. And uh,
Speaker 1: that's definitely what you got here. Uh A really a
Speaker 1: really promising effort from Donald, who again looked like a
Speaker 1: guy that was poised and can make throws. The second
Speaker 1: touchdown pass uh to Anderson was right before the half.
Speaker 1: Chris Wesley, when you fire up your game pass, you're
Speaker 1: gonna say to yourself, that was one of the prettiest
Speaker 1: throws of the this week. Oh yeah, I can't wait,
Speaker 1: and uh and and my other takeaway from this game, gentleman,
Speaker 1: is so nice win for the Jets. They kind of
Speaker 1: put out the fire and get to hit reset on
Speaker 1: this and then the schedule is a little forgiving for them,
Speaker 1: so they got a chance to stay in contention here.
Speaker 1: But on the Bronco side of it, you know, rest
Speaker 1: in peace, no fly zone, rest in peace. Whatever whatever
Speaker 1: um uh ideas you had about this being a defense
Speaker 1: that could win a Super Bowl or be get even
Speaker 1: close to the Super Bowl fifty defense, This was an
Speaker 1: embarrassment for Advance Joseph, for John Elway, for von Miller,
Speaker 1: who was held without a sack of the third straight game,
Speaker 1: to for everyone on that field. When you let the Jets,
Speaker 1: a team that had scored forty one points in the
Speaker 1: previous thirteen quarters, roll up over five hundred yards on you,
Speaker 1: when you let Isaiah Crowell dropped a deuce on you, well,
Speaker 1: no poor choice of wording, but two hundred yards, when
Speaker 1: you let he even had another guy, Yeah he needs
Speaker 1: that daddy ways, Billy Powell went for a hundred and
Speaker 1: then he got pulled back and went finished with I mean,
Speaker 1: this was a abhorrent effort on defense. Where do you
Speaker 1: go from here? Because his Kingdom's not bailing you out.
Speaker 1: Name a more disappointing unit in the NFL than the
Speaker 1: Broncos defense this year, and that means that's Van Joseph.
Speaker 1: Vance Joseph Special. But he's his butt's gotta be hot, right.
Speaker 1: I feel like Todd Bowls passed the hotton onto Vance
Speaker 1: Joseph at the end of this game. So now you
Speaker 1: takes a like to do it. Yeah and and uh
Speaker 1: and yeah. He's like, I'm sorry, but they both happen here.
Speaker 1: John Way admitted basically to you know, considering firing Vance
Speaker 1: Joseph at after at the end of last season they
Speaker 1: hammed in hot before announcing that he was returning. So
Speaker 1: there was a thought there. And this this quote from
Speaker 1: Derek Wolfe, who is a leader on that defense, would
Speaker 1: concern me if I'm Vance Joseph said, we tried three
Speaker 1: group this week. We tried, we had great energy and practice,
Speaker 1: great energy, started the game hot. Something something much deeper
Speaker 1: is happening here that I can't even really understand well,
Speaker 1: and you even know what that means. Well, you're pointing,
Speaker 1: You're pointing up Buffalo Springfield on us. Nothing's happening here.
Speaker 1: Something's happening. What it isn't exactly clear. Like I'll often
Speaker 1: critique our company with a vague comment like that, and
Speaker 1: it's always pointing upward at management figures. You know, but
Speaker 1: a weird on your radar. Dets are having a weird season.
Speaker 1: It was for three yards out of nowhere, very strange season. Correll,
Speaker 1: who's a nice player, Um, he'll do this, not this,
Speaker 1: but he'll do this version of I mean twice. It's
Speaker 1: I can't figure that guy out. Fifteen for two ten.
Speaker 1: He runs for, he runs hard, and he even shuts
Speaker 1: up speed. I don't think Carol is a great player.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm a little bit perplexed by how incredibly
Speaker 1: looked in this game. But you cannot say enough of
Speaker 1: how poorly Denver played in case Keenum. His numbers look
Speaker 1: a lot better than he played as well. Uh, this
Speaker 1: team just has issues. The Broncos could be in a
Speaker 1: little bit of trouble. Let's move on. Here comes the Blitz,
Speaker 1: Rivers bumbles, the Snam gets how quick to Heckler he's
Speaker 1: at the cuts inside forty thirty five thirty Ackler work
Speaker 1: on the left side line of the insol touch stops
Speaker 1: shogers O. Matt money Smith, the voice of the Around
Speaker 1: the NFL podcast with the call for kf I. Austin
Speaker 1: Ekeler may just one catch on Sunday. He made it
Speaker 1: count forty four yards catch and run put the Chargers
Speaker 1: ahead for good and win over the hapless Raiders West.
Speaker 1: This is a home game and name only for the Chargers,
Speaker 1: who had to contend with thousands of silver and black
Speaker 1: supporters storming the stub Hub Center. But this bad Raiders
Speaker 1: team needs a lot more than loud fans. This was
Speaker 1: not an even matchup. The Chargers are just, to me,
Speaker 1: a much better team with a much more reliable offense
Speaker 1: and a quarterback who has been on fire this year,
Speaker 1: and nobody's really paying attention. And you can count on
Speaker 1: Ekeler and Melvin Gordon going for two and two TVs
Speaker 1: just about every single week on Pace right now, at
Speaker 1: least going into the week to top, mark Ingram and
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara as the most they're still on of any
Speaker 1: dou however, and a lot of that is through the
Speaker 1: air waves, and I think Philip Rivers you know, he's
Speaker 1: down a couple of receivers. Travis Benjamin's gone right now,
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry's gone. They stayed through the air waves. Yeah
Speaker 1: he uh, you know, he's like an old guy with
Speaker 1: the you know, the antenna on his TV, the airwaves.
Speaker 1: Mart Tavis Bryant leaves Raiders with yards also had another
Speaker 1: backbreaking mistake. This guy is a mistake waiting to happen
Speaker 1: every single week. He had a fumble that really it
Speaker 1: was a big play in this game. And Derek Carr
Speaker 1: had another backbreaking interception in the red zone. He's playing
Speaker 1: right now with two rookies tackles too, and it's not
Speaker 1: it's not great for him. Well, they there's there's Raiders
Speaker 1: fans sending out this stat of what they what they've
Speaker 1: done when they're at fourth and when they're at the
Speaker 1: one yard line, than they don't hand it to Marshawn Lynch,
Speaker 1: like this is the second turnover, I believe. And then
Speaker 1: they had another failed play where they went to a
Speaker 1: full back this year. You know, when they're on the
Speaker 1: goal line, they tried to throw the ball on first
Speaker 1: and goal and that's just a killer first thing goal.
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch is running like he's twenty six years old,
Speaker 1: and you do a play action pass with a mistake
Speaker 1: prone quarterback and the throw was just miserable as well,
Speaker 1: it makes off by a linebacker. It makes what Oakland
Speaker 1: did last week even more mysterious because one thing I
Speaker 1: kept hearing because I was I had tracking a different
Speaker 1: game that they just looked so unprepared as a complete
Speaker 1: overall team, which we just talked about another one in
Speaker 1: the a f C West that's the same way. But
Speaker 1: Gruden is apparently on this ten year thing where he
Speaker 1: can do no wrong. I see it's a talent deficient
Speaker 1: team as well, but yeah, it just seems like that.
Speaker 1: Well he also ships some of the talent out of
Speaker 1: the building. But fair enough. How about the Chargers getting
Speaker 1: about five hundred in October. You know, it's been about
Speaker 1: four year, four or five years since they've had anything
Speaker 1: resembling a halfway. I mean, we're calling them the most talent.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, a f C, so thank you for
Speaker 1: getting there, right. They've been fighting good about your Charges.
Speaker 1: They've been playing from behind every season. You know, fighting
Speaker 1: uphill three and two is about as good as it
Speaker 1: gets for them. Just when you think you're feeling good
Speaker 1: about him, Calebs, Caleb Star just missed another kick in.
Speaker 1: Let's not hand out any lollipops yet. Let's go to
Speaker 1: Cleveland next week and win a game, win a football game.
Speaker 1: Let's throw like a good month together and went fourth straight.
Speaker 1: About after you beat the Browns, you come home and
Speaker 1: you got the Titans. Don't have your special teams be
Speaker 1: at debacle and have on. Have your fans actually feel
Speaker 1: old that building with the type I like their chances
Speaker 1: better when they're on the road. How about going to Seattle, then,
Speaker 1: Legion of Boom whatever it used to be gone, go
Speaker 1: in another ball game, get the six and two. Greg Man, Okay,
Speaker 1: come down alight, thanks responsible for the Chargers. Now Rosen
Speaker 1: under center, barking out the call, takes its play action.
Speaker 1: Rosen setting up with time, looks deep, fires deep, got
Speaker 1: a man white open inside the thirties, caught by Kirk
Speaker 1: at the twenty. At the Tad touchdown. Josh Rosen with
Speaker 1: a strike caught by Kirk, rookie to rookie Dave passed
Speaker 1: k t a are what they called Josh Rosen seventy
Speaker 1: five yards to Kristen Kirk on the Cardinals first play
Speaker 1: from scrimmage. Cardinals used five takeaways to finally get a win,
Speaker 1: the last NFL team uh to get out of the
Speaker 1: windless column. They beat the Niners to eighteen. Mark Seessler, Yes,
Speaker 1: tell us more about this incredible affair. UM A tough
Speaker 1: watch to the point where I don't think any Cardinals
Speaker 1: fan would would disagree. Right, people Cardinals fans tweeting me
Speaker 1: saying I have been a lifelong Cardinals fan. This is
Speaker 1: a this team. I struggle to enjoy what's happening here,
Speaker 1: but you do. I do think you saw a couple
Speaker 1: throws by Josh Rosen where you see how incredibly accurate
Speaker 1: can be with he The touchdown throw is beautiful. He
Speaker 1: also is dealing with a lot of drops. This offense
Speaker 1: is out of sync. They still don't quite have the
Speaker 1: David Johnson experience of years passed. Nothing close, And this game,
Speaker 1: to me was Chandler Jones on defense dominating. Could be
Speaker 1: any more dominant. That's how dominant he was. He was great?
Speaker 1: Is that I don't. I don't. I'm not a complete
Speaker 1: ast of that show where you pulling the quote from
Speaker 1: I don't know this Niners team. I feel for them.
Speaker 1: Because they're so banged up. Like Breeda goes out, Matt
Speaker 1: Breeda goes out, and right away Wheheem Monster comes in, fumbles,
Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson picks up the ball, runs forty three yards
Speaker 1: with it, David Johnson scores after, and you just can't
Speaker 1: really figure out how the Niners gonna climb back in.
Speaker 1: It's it's a offense that runs through Kyle Yustcheck and
Speaker 1: George Kittle. I love I'd love Kittle, but like George,
Speaker 1: but there's just not any much else going on. And
Speaker 1: yet they dominated the game and blew it because they
Speaker 1: turned the ball over five times they had I don't
Speaker 1: feel they dominated this game. They had thirty three first
Speaker 1: downs to ten. It just doesn't. I'm just saying, look
Speaker 1: that way that when you watch this, But I I
Speaker 1: it was just two teams that to me feel like
Speaker 1: they're going through the motion. I'm saying a team won
Speaker 1: a game with ten first downs. That's tough to do,
Speaker 1: you I bet I would love research to look up
Speaker 1: how many teams have had thirty first downs and over
Speaker 1: ninety plays and lost the game like that. It's hard
Speaker 1: to do. They had ninety two plays and at this
Speaker 1: at the same time, Shanahan was absolutely fuming after halftime.
Speaker 1: I mean, it couldn't have been less happy with his offense.
Speaker 1: So I'm not sure that quite plays out to the number.
Speaker 1: You turn the ball over five times, you don't get
Speaker 1: a turn where it's gonna be tough stuff to win
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Speaker 1: you've been a real warrior, but I'm sure this is
Speaker 1: not news to you. But I'll just want a couple
Speaker 1: of paragraphs about you know, you've been Mr Lacroix drinking
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Speaker 1: I'll be back with the rest of you for the
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Speaker 1: feeling well, Let's get Let's get to Sunday night football.
Speaker 1: Wats and throws caught as his Hopkins into Dallas territory. Honestly,
Speaker 1: looking at that is unbelievable, Larry Fitzgerald, like in the
Speaker 1: clocks when it matters posts, making brilliant catches and an
Speaker 1: even better run. DeAndre Hopkins with the forty nine yard
Speaker 1: catch and run, one of the plays of the year
Speaker 1: to help the Texans take the win over the Cowboys
Speaker 1: nineteen to sixteen. Set up a thirty six yard field
Speaker 1: goal by Kim A fair Barn. What a name? What
Speaker 1: a name is that? Right in the Battle in the
Speaker 1: Battle of Texas. Like I don't know if you guys
Speaker 1: heard this game was played in Texas. We were also
Speaker 1: impressed with that play. It might have been like the
Speaker 1: best reaction we've ever had during a Sunday night football
Speaker 1: game in the studio, I think, uh, DeAndre Hopkins is
Speaker 1: basically like I have dinner reservations for fourteen in forty
Speaker 1: one minutes, we're getting out of here, and he just
Speaker 1: rumbled down the field, and this is a guy that
Speaker 1: also knocked down the ball in the end zone on
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's last ditch hell Mary attempt in regulation. I mean,
Speaker 1: it showed out everything Hopkins is great at just plucking
Speaker 1: the ball out of the sky. Two of the best
Speaker 1: hands in the in the league. And we were talking
Speaker 1: West about how, yeah, he's been your guy, DeAndre Hopkins
Speaker 1: for a long time, and at this point it's like
Speaker 1: you don't really even talk about him that much because
Speaker 1: everyone knows DeAndre Hopkins is great. But it's still nice
Speaker 1: to see a game like this on national television and
Speaker 1: remind everyone. I'm disappointed that none of us have made
Speaker 1: the Larry Fitzgerald comparison before Collinsworth did, because the vice
Speaker 1: gript hands, the physicality, the acrobaticism to make plays on
Speaker 1: the sideline and in the end zone and then that
Speaker 1: won't be denied. Play looks like Larry Fitzgerald's playoff run,
Speaker 1: you know that legendary playoff run. I mean, this guy Hopkins,
Speaker 1: that's an all Pro play because he's an all Pro player.
Speaker 1: By one concern with this game and just sort of
Speaker 1: the blueprint of what the Texans seemed to be I
Speaker 1: thought they sort of woke up from their season long
Speaker 1: sleep against the Cults last week, and we saw some
Speaker 1: of that continue tonight. But I Deshaun Watson, who was
Speaker 1: it appeared banged up late in this game and was
Speaker 1: being looked at on the sideline. There's still just too
Speaker 1: many plays where he's being exposed to not just a
Speaker 1: hit from one guy, but two or three guys slamming
Speaker 1: them at this from different directions at the same time.
Speaker 1: I just I don't know, like, yeah, it seems a
Speaker 1: little unsustainable to me. Some of that's on him, most
Speaker 1: of it's on the offensive line, some of it's on
Speaker 1: the coaching staff for putting him in harm's way. Five
Speaker 1: times they got inside the five in tonight's game, and
Speaker 1: only one of those did they score a touchdown, which
Speaker 1: is preposterous. So they should have won this game well
Speaker 1: before overtime. And and as tough as that was to
Speaker 1: watch them getting hit though, you also think, like this
Speaker 1: is why you love Deshaun Watson. Are games like the
Speaker 1: last two weeks. That's sort of toughness and the ability
Speaker 1: to make the plays at the end of the game
Speaker 1: when they needed it. They have some identity to their
Speaker 1: offense when when it's going well, where I still watched
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and outside of Ezekiel Elliott doing Azekul Elliott
Speaker 1: things here and there tonight was impossible to watch there
Speaker 1: they're they're receiving quote core and who they have out
Speaker 1: there as targets for Dak Prescott. I mean, you don't
Speaker 1: want to talk about sustainable issue. That's an issue that
Speaker 1: they're not going to solve this season. I think we
Speaker 1: looked up at one point in the fourth quarter and
Speaker 1: all the receivers combined had twenty nine yards for the game.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a problem. I am giving myself a
Speaker 1: pat on the back right now for here now, not
Speaker 1: at all for waiting this long before tearing into Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett for that decision in overtime to punt the ball
Speaker 1: on fourth and one when you're across midfield with under
Speaker 1: four four minutes left in overtime. And I do think
Speaker 1: there's times of the season when you have to decide
Speaker 1: as a coach what kind of team are we gonna be?
Speaker 1: What are we a team that can try to run
Speaker 1: the ball on fourth and one with one of the
Speaker 1: most expensive offensive lines in the league, with one of
Speaker 1: the best running backs in the league in on a
Speaker 1: play where all we need is a yard and we
Speaker 1: increase our chances of winning exponentially, or are we going
Speaker 1: to be the team that punts in plays for the tie.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's the team that Jason Garrett is saying
Speaker 1: he wants to be. It's mad ning when you see
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh go for fourth in short in his own
Speaker 1: territory and Jason Garrett won't even do it past the
Speaker 1: fifty yard line in overtime with Ezekiel Elliott, with by
Speaker 1: the way, with Dak Prescott, who is one of the
Speaker 1: toughest quarterbacks in the league, to take down in one
Speaker 1: of the best runners, you can't come up with the
Speaker 1: play to get a couple of yards. And if you
Speaker 1: get stopped there, you know what, your defense can try
Speaker 1: to make a play. It's it's okay, We'll let them
Speaker 1: try to win in that spot too. The arrangement in Dallas,
Speaker 1: because I think that Jason Garrett is essentially one of
Speaker 1: the family. If you're in the Garry Jones group, that
Speaker 1: you're mayor. We know who Jason Garrett is, and right
Speaker 1: he's not. I don't think he's nearly as bad as
Speaker 1: some say, or nearly as good as others say. But
Speaker 1: he is perfectly content. But play the tie that play
Speaker 1: puts the Cowboys and they have not at coaching. Absolutely
Speaker 1: see you see some of these teams like Doug Peterson
Speaker 1: started last year, the teams that embrace analytics and understand
Speaker 1: you have to go for it and that's well and
Speaker 1: and a trickle down effect to the team. I think
Speaker 1: they they want him to go for it in that
Speaker 1: spot and just knowing your team, it's not even so
Speaker 1: not even just the analytics where it's obviously the smart move,
Speaker 1: but just knowing what's the strength of my team? What
Speaker 1: are we all about? If we can't get a yard,
Speaker 1: we don't deserve to win. I think he just liked
Speaker 1: being five hundred because Jason Garrett and Dallas is like,
Speaker 1: to me, five hundred personified, and he thought, Okay, I
Speaker 1: can ride this out another week, get to two, two
Speaker 1: and one, maybe we can end up seven seven in two.
Speaker 1: That's like, I just would like to see some accountability
Speaker 1: for it, because your to your point about the line
Speaker 1: and the money poured into one of the best running
Speaker 1: backs they've ever had. I don't know what you're doing there.
Speaker 1: A lot of money poured into UH Sunday Night football,
Speaker 1: and we got a good one this week. We have
Speaker 1: waking up in the end, some big hits and and
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith. I feel so happy for that guy what
Speaker 1: he came back from and now he's one of the
Speaker 1: best middle linebackers in the NFL. And now both teams
Speaker 1: are two and three. It feels like half of more
Speaker 1: than half of the NFL right now has two or
Speaker 1: three losses. And so throw these into the pile. It's
Speaker 1: good to see the Texans back in the mix. One
Speaker 1: last thing. I mean, this is the second game in
Speaker 1: a row where I think Jadeveon Clowney has played lights
Speaker 1: out and him and Watt do they always say it, Oh,
Speaker 1: they make a difference. They they are. They completely had
Speaker 1: put their marks on this game. And I and I
Speaker 1: almost forgot one us thing. Uh I'm gonna get from
Speaker 1: our producer right here. That was a lock for Dan
Speaker 1: hands Is. He's out. He's so good at hosting. He's
Speaker 1: locking up games and men when he's not in the build.
Speaker 1: It's a special skill. Congratulations to him. I think that's it.
Speaker 1: We we should get going, shall we. Let's do it
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