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Speaker 1: NFL Podcast Didn't Change the Bears. Welcome to another edition
Speaker 1: of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan
Speaker 1: Hansis and I have joined in a room filled with heroes,
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Gregg Rosehal What is up? Boys? Oh?
Speaker 1: I hope we didn't I thought when Kenyan drank Drake
Speaker 1: coughed it up at the goal line at O T
Speaker 1: I thought that was a little, uh sprinkle of mojoe
Speaker 1: magic from the team of a t N but the
Speaker 1: Bears and we'll get to a little little a little
Speaker 1: bit later, a tough loss, A little presumptuous to assume
Speaker 1: that we'd have the power to affect any team season
Speaker 1: in that way. There are three and two. That's pretty
Speaker 1: I think they're where we thought they'd beat to some degree.
Speaker 1: Here's a here's a new quote. I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: off the ground. You gotta believe that's fresh. That's uh
Speaker 1: week six Sunday in the NFL and um West, Oh
Speaker 1: my goodness, this league is wide open. Every division depends,
Speaker 1: you know, what happens with Chiefs and Patriots later tonight,
Speaker 1: except for I think the NFC South in the NFC
Speaker 1: West are wide open. I think the saintship control of
Speaker 1: the NFC South, even though they're only like what a
Speaker 1: game and a half up on the Panthers, and the
Speaker 1: Rams have the West. I just feel like there's never
Speaker 1: been an NFL where there's more week to week teams
Speaker 1: where what you think about them seven days ago to
Speaker 1: now changes so vastly for like eighteen of these teams.
Speaker 1: So that's what they want everybody. The machine, the machine
Speaker 1: to keep churning, and we're in that machine. There's that
Speaker 1: We say that in general, there's this time of year,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a lot of confusion. Teams are still
Speaker 1: figuring themselves out. But exactly so, if we peddled this,
Speaker 1: we always do. Oh, teams are figuring themselves out till Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: I mean, I wish we all have the opportunity to
Speaker 1: take nine months in our job to figure out what
Speaker 1: we're doing. I mean, then, yeah, you're gonna get this.
Speaker 1: We're in the middle of it here, Mark, and I
Speaker 1: could sense it your voice. We are deep into the season,
Speaker 1: but a far away off from the end. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like we are months and months and months from
Speaker 1: the season does not end essentially till you leave owners meetings.
Speaker 1: So don't even talk to me about the sea we
Speaker 1: have just we're in a backstroke into the deep end.
Speaker 1: So we're in the world going on and we're a
Speaker 1: little bit lost right now. Listen you it's harder work
Speaker 1: in the world. They're talking a little football, all right,
Speaker 1: greg Ys, let's get into it, starting with a big
Speaker 1: showdown in the a f C North Donna quick pop
Speaker 1: over the running free that ten five touchstops boon, you
Speaker 1: thought a free here? All believable? A thirty one yard
Speaker 1: touchdown pass from Ben do a b and it couldn't
Speaker 1: come at a more critical time, not only in this
Speaker 1: game in the season. Wow, Bill hill Grove, great call
Speaker 1: for w d V. Call him Bill Grove, Bill Grove,
Speaker 1: you gotta be here. That's my new slogan forget about
Speaker 1: you gotta believe. Then Roethlisberger connected with Antonio Brown on
Speaker 1: a thirty one yard touchdown with ten seconds left, and
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers pulled off another one. They ripped out
Speaker 1: the Bengals hearts again, beating Cincinnati twenty one. They added
Speaker 1: a two point conversion and then got to stop uh
Speaker 1: that they needed to close it out. The Brown score
Speaker 1: came after Andy Dalton led the Bengals to a go
Speaker 1: ahead touchdown in the previous possession. All at all game
Speaker 1: effort by since, but the story remains the same in
Speaker 1: this rivalry. Chris Wesley, It's been interesting to see the
Speaker 1: relationship between these two teams change over the years. Growing
Speaker 1: up in Cincinnati. My experience with the Steelers was being
Speaker 1: introduced to the concept of a clock killing back because
Speaker 1: they would just win, running away and run Frank O' Harris,
Speaker 1: Walter Abercrombie, Barry Foster, you know whoever was their latest,
Speaker 1: Jerome Baddest, just kill the clock. And now it's like
Speaker 1: every game comes down to the wire and it's just
Speaker 1: gonna be how the Bengals are gonna blow it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and this game, Andy Dalton led to impressive two minute
Speaker 1: drill touchdown drives, one right before halftime, one at the
Speaker 1: end of the game. And then their defense, you know,
Speaker 1: after Vontes Burfick took out you know, half of the
Speaker 1: Bengals secondary with his weird hits. Um Jesse Bates got sidelined.
Speaker 1: I think dark Has Darnutt Dinard was sidelined for a while.
Speaker 1: The secondary wasn't the same in this final drive, but um,
Speaker 1: after going most of the day without doing much, it
Speaker 1: was Schuster Smith, Schuster and Antonio Brown on that drive.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Big Bend targeted thirteen different players in this game,
Speaker 1: and it's a reminder. Yeah, maybe maybe the production came
Speaker 1: late from the two receivers, but they have three skill
Speaker 1: pushness and guys crossed the hundred yards. When they're on,
Speaker 1: they're still very potent offense. This was James Connor and
Speaker 1: Vance McDonald for fifty nine minutes and then it was
Speaker 1: Smith Schuster Antonio Brown. I was gonna say before Brown
Speaker 1: took over the game and made the play to win it,
Speaker 1: um if the Bengals would held on for this game.
Speaker 1: You're always wondering when Antonio Brown is gonna pop off
Speaker 1: to the media or have some type of issue, because
Speaker 1: he is that type of personality, and it seems to
Speaker 1: be heading that way because again Juju Smith Schuster was
Speaker 1: targeted almost double the amount of times of Antonio Brown,
Speaker 1: and you wondered if they wanted to pull it out,
Speaker 1: what would have happened. But instead, the best possible situation
Speaker 1: with the Steelers if they steal the game, and they
Speaker 1: do it going Big Ben to Antonio Brown, so you
Speaker 1: wipe away all that potential negativity. That's why I think
Speaker 1: it's the biggest win of the day because if you
Speaker 1: could have buried Pittsburgh three wins behind you six weeks
Speaker 1: into the season, that's a different a f C North
Speaker 1: than the one we see today. Instead, you look at
Speaker 1: a situation where the Steelers get the road division win
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger's thirteen and two in Cincinnati, which is one of
Speaker 1: the most ridiculous stats that you could come up and
Speaker 1: you watch the game closer than I did. Chris tell
Speaker 1: me that the Steelers have to feel like on some
Speaker 1: level that they're back because even though yeah, you stole
Speaker 1: it with that last drive, they had foight yards, the
Speaker 1: bank Us had two hundred and seventy five. Overall, they
Speaker 1: did a lot of things pretty well. This game should
Speaker 1: never have been this close. It was red zone woes
Speaker 1: for the Steelers. Joe Hayden dropped an easy interception in
Speaker 1: the red zone. UM Already Burns, who gets lost in
Speaker 1: coverage quite often, got lost in coverage on a touchdown
Speaker 1: by Tyler Boyd. James Connor got stopped at about the
Speaker 1: one inch line on a play that may have been
Speaker 1: rolled a touchdown by a different crew. UM. So there
Speaker 1: was a lot of red zone action and my um
Speaker 1: oncologist is one of these die hard Steelers fans who
Speaker 1: knows everything about the team told me Friday, this is
Speaker 1: the season. This game is the season. This Bengals game
Speaker 1: can can put the Steelers out of the race or
Speaker 1: let them back in. And to your point, because Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: now has the luxury of a bye week, still feel
Speaker 1: it comes a little bit earlier than than you'd want.
Speaker 1: But then you come out of it with a chance
Speaker 1: to change the division with Levi on Bell and you
Speaker 1: play the Browns and the Ravens. The Bengals meanwhile, come
Speaker 1: with this loss, have to go face Kansas City next week.
Speaker 1: But let's touch on the running back situation real quick
Speaker 1: for Pittsburgh because Connor again and he has really been
Speaker 1: a revelation for then he ran for a hundred and
Speaker 1: eleven and two touchdowns in this game. Uh and Levyan Bell,
Speaker 1: the Steelers continue to contend they actually haven't heard from
Speaker 1: leve Bell, but leve Bell has told the media he's
Speaker 1: gonna report during the bye week, so we're gonna see
Speaker 1: how that's gonna play out. Very soon after the game,
Speaker 1: Big Ben had a little bit of fun with what
Speaker 1: is a legitimately uncertain situation in Pittsburgh. And and James
Speaker 1: I thought was was he was a bowling ball today.
Speaker 1: He was all over the place. But a great game.
Speaker 1: But you know, I know it's his last game for US,
Speaker 1: so um because Leans coming back, but I thought he
Speaker 1: did well in his last one. Well done well A
Speaker 1: word Smith and one las one last word from Juju Smith.
Speaker 1: Schuster in referenced Antonio Brown a big Ben, uh and
Speaker 1: the last play that won the game. Moments like this,
Speaker 1: goats come alive. How about that? That is a slogan
Speaker 1: we do not need. Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm sack of
Speaker 1: goats in general, goat in general, because now go has
Speaker 1: come to me. And instead of the greatest of all time,
Speaker 1: which is literally what it stands for, it just kind
Speaker 1: of means like one of the best players. That's what
Speaker 1: people it's been as is the greatest Steelers quarterback of
Speaker 1: all time. Uh, sorry, Scheck, and the greatest Steelers wide
Speaker 1: receiver of all time. You don't think Check thinks that
Speaker 1: Big Ben is the greatest. Check thinks that Rancho is
Speaker 1: like the greatest quarter But they would have to be
Speaker 1: the best players at period. Okay, I think you, Greg,
Speaker 1: You're onto something. Let's move on. Here's one. So he's
Speaker 1: gonna run the ball. Tams runs up the gun, He's
Speaker 1: gonna get it inside, shows the ball. It's a fubble
Speaker 1: behind the ladder with the ball drop again and then
Speaker 1: back to Sean Jackson. He losers the ball. That's the
Speaker 1: ball game, A little rousal downs all the Bucks close.
Speaker 1: Jean Decker half w f U s with the call. Oh,
Speaker 1: they came close to the the Bucks there, Deshan Jackson and
Speaker 1: the Bucks came very close to a miracle trick play
Speaker 1: touchdown as time expired, but it wasn't meant to be.
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan threw for three fifty four and three touchdowns.
Speaker 1: The Falcon snap a three game losing streak h with
Speaker 1: a thirty nine win over the Bucks. Greg The Falcons
Speaker 1: needed a win to keep their season alive entering this game,
Speaker 1: and one and four they got it, just barely. They did.
Speaker 1: And that last play to me was a microcosm of
Speaker 1: the Bucks, which is that you know it was. It
Speaker 1: was a good idea and I and I think when
Speaker 1: you have one, you gotta score a touchdown. You're on
Speaker 1: the twenty yard line, last play of the game that
Speaker 1: no one's expecting that. And when you looked at and
Speaker 1: you stopped the frame by frame and they were gonna
Speaker 1: lateral it twice and DeShawn Jackson's wide open on the side.
Speaker 1: I think it could have worked, but you mess up
Speaker 1: in execution and the only reason that you were in
Speaker 1: that spot is because Mike Evans. Because a lot of things,
Speaker 1: but one is that Mike Evans didn't go out of
Speaker 1: bounds when he absolutely could have just walked out of
Speaker 1: bounds thirty seconds before that. And it's these little attention
Speaker 1: to details with the Bucks. They missed an extra point
Speaker 1: which makes them chase it later, they missed the two.
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston plays a very good Jamis Winston game yards
Speaker 1: four touchd on, but he has two interceptions, including a
Speaker 1: killer one in the red zone. And that's that's the
Speaker 1: Bucks kind of writ large. You know, there there's a lot,
Speaker 1: there's a lot good going on, but it's just sloppy.
Speaker 1: It's what kind of interceptions were there for Winston. One
Speaker 1: was a bad timing on a on a deep throat
Speaker 1: to DeShawn Jackson. Their timing seemed to be off much
Speaker 1: of the day. And the other was one where he
Speaker 1: forced it. He predetermined it in the red zone and
Speaker 1: that was totally on him, and he said the game
Speaker 1: was on him because of that later. I think that's
Speaker 1: being a little harsh because ultimately they're playing he's playing
Speaker 1: with maybe the worst defense of all time. I meant
Speaker 1: well in in terms of yardage per game, passerrating, and
Speaker 1: yards per tempting, getting about stuff right now, okay, right now. Statistically,
Speaker 1: they are on pace to blow the records out of
Speaker 1: the water for the worst past defense of all time,
Speaker 1: you know, and they gave up thirty four points here,
Speaker 1: which is right on their average. It's pretty bad. It's
Speaker 1: in the midst He seems to be the common denominator
Speaker 1: with some of these. Later, Mike Smith to run out
Speaker 1: of excuses because Dirk Cutter is the next guy to go.
Speaker 1: Usually there's an order and how this works out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if the Bucks are the worst all time defense, then
Speaker 1: the Falcons must be right behind them because they're everything
Speaker 1: about the same amount of points per game. We're gonna
Speaker 1: get this once a once a year, I think, with
Speaker 1: these terrible past defenses. You heard the lock zeus is
Speaker 1: warming up a little bit west, so keep winning and
Speaker 1: left to three and three. I heard everyone's three and
Speaker 1: three now, Yeah, we're we're warming up in the reddit
Speaker 1: board and the threadit boards crashed down to earth after
Speaker 1: a three and o start. But uh yeah, you you
Speaker 1: kind of chuckled when I locked up the Falcons because
Speaker 1: they's a high wire act to lock up this team,
Speaker 1: because they should have been able to close out this game,
Speaker 1: but they just couldn't do it because the second the
Speaker 1: offense comes down to earth a little bit, the defense
Speaker 1: will let the other team back in. And that's what
Speaker 1: happened here. Matt Ryan, you know, deserves credit. Twelve touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no interceptions. They're doing their job. Steve Sarkisian, you'll want
Speaker 1: when you guys watched the first half of this. It
Speaker 1: was shocking though, how just easy it was for the
Speaker 1: Falcons for much of this game, and they took advantage
Speaker 1: most of the news A bad boy and like they're
Speaker 1: a good offense. I keep thinking, maybe they'll be able
Speaker 1: to figure things out. I don't think their seasons over.
Speaker 1: When you have one of the best quarterbacks in the league,
Speaker 1: and I think Matt Ryan's playing, you know, near that level,
Speaker 1: at least top five to seven. This reminds me of
Speaker 1: the Bengals. Want to sell eight more of these Falcons
Speaker 1: results where it's twenty nine points thirty four, you know, please,
Speaker 1: let's move on Elliott to Prescott's what can you gotta read?
Speaker 1: O C? And he's gotta slain the block block for
Speaker 1: f what's Brad sham the sham god k r l
Speaker 1: D with the call Dak Prescott played the game of
Speaker 1: the season for him anyway, uh in jeral world, the
Speaker 1: third year QB, through two touchdowns, ran for eighty two
Speaker 1: yards and a score as well. Cowboys cruise so he's
Speaker 1: shockingly easy thirty seven two seven, forty seven, yes, forty
Speaker 1: to seven win over the Jacksonville Jaguars, who put some
Speaker 1: ugly football on tape in this one. Mark Prescott has
Speaker 1: not been immune for criticism this season. Today played like
Speaker 1: a franchise. QB. Can't say the same about his counterparts,
Speaker 1: not at all. Although I wouldn't put this on Blake Bortles,
Speaker 1: I would put it on a defense that, you know,
Speaker 1: two weeks running is giving up thirty five points per
Speaker 1: game and absolutely allowed this one to get totally out
Speaker 1: of hand. Out of the gate. The Cowboys offense, which
Speaker 1: we've complained about rightfully, so tough to watch, often dull,
Speaker 1: just simply boring. Today, first four drives they dial up
Speaker 1: a nine play field goal drive to start the game,
Speaker 1: a seven play touchdown, a nine play touchdown, in a
Speaker 1: sixteen play touchdown to close the half. Jacksonville went into
Speaker 1: halftime with like fifty something yards totally abysmal on that
Speaker 1: side of the ball in a defense that could do
Speaker 1: nothing to stop an offense we didn't believe in seven
Speaker 1: days ago, and the Dallas essentially they didn't hang on
Speaker 1: in the second half because they had a very They
Speaker 1: had a very They were quieted down and they were
Speaker 1: very impressive fourth quarter where I thought this was the
Speaker 1: most embarrassing loss we've seen for the Jaguars under Doug Maroon,
Speaker 1: they have a strict formula. We've talked about this for
Speaker 1: two years running now that they have to jump out
Speaker 1: to an early lead. The Jaguars must get an early lead,
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys have the same formula, so it's interesting
Speaker 1: that they were the team that jumped out. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: keep a list of these teams because the Redskins are
Speaker 1: one of them too. The Jaguars, though, need to get
Speaker 1: real with where they're at because they're they're a team
Speaker 1: and the fans and everything. I think they they see
Speaker 1: themselves as one of the top teams in the league
Speaker 1: and to respond like they did from a big loss,
Speaker 1: I think a humbling loss last week in Kansas City,
Speaker 1: and what they really built up as a big game
Speaker 1: to get wax like this in Dallas, like good teams don't.
Speaker 1: They're not the only a team South team that should
Speaker 1: be looking at things. That's fair, Yeah, that's fair. But
Speaker 1: the Jaguars were the team that thought they're a super
Speaker 1: Bowl team this year going into the year, and their
Speaker 1: defense just hasn't been as dominant. There was a moment
Speaker 1: when they had like two pealthy whiteouts on the field,
Speaker 1: maybe three, and they are They are hamstrung a little
Speaker 1: bit at that position with some injuries, but they just
Speaker 1: when we saw them get hot last year and creative
Speaker 1: and push the ball down the field to do things
Speaker 1: you wouldn't expect like today was everything you could imagine
Speaker 1: about why the Jacksonville Jaguars are not to be taken
Speaker 1: ultra seriously. Cowboys deserve to be taken seriously. They you
Speaker 1: want to see this offense do something similar more than
Speaker 1: once or twice. But the defense has been good for
Speaker 1: six weeks, so they only allowed ten first down to
Speaker 1: this game. They have a pretty good pass rush that's consistent.
Speaker 1: They are a better defense than they've been. One thing
Speaker 1: you would like is that after Garrett got lashed, you know,
Speaker 1: in the correct in a correct way for not for
Speaker 1: being so conservative and playing for fuelness. He went for
Speaker 1: it like two or three times on fourth and short
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville territory. They had a better They did a
Speaker 1: better job of design runs for Dak Prescott, and in
Speaker 1: general the offense looked a little bit more creative than
Speaker 1: it has before. We'll see if it sticks. How are
Speaker 1: we doing with the not so accountable hot takes that
Speaker 1: the Jaguars are one of the few teams in history
Speaker 1: that is better without its best running back. I don't
Speaker 1: see them as being better today with anything. I mean,
Speaker 1: they know they're better. So yeah. And the two weeks
Speaker 1: they've averaged allowed an average of four yards per game.
Speaker 1: And once again, and we've been talking about this forever
Speaker 1: on this podcast, this team is not designed to play
Speaker 1: from behind, and you can see how these games go
Speaker 1: downhill in a hurry for Jacksonville. But I do still
Speaker 1: take them seriously in this conference, just because it's a
Speaker 1: wide open conference. And also, like we've said, Blake Bortles,
Speaker 1: he could be great next week. It just says you
Speaker 1: never know what you're gonna get from this team the
Speaker 1: defense side of the ball. This just feels to me
Speaker 1: like more of a slump than something you get totally. Uh.
Speaker 1: I still think you can't build around defense. In teen
Speaker 1: they just aren't dominant defense. And maybe they'll turn it around,
Speaker 1: but they were. They were one of the worst teams
Speaker 1: in forcing turners going into this game. They didn't force
Speaker 1: any in this game, so they had you know, the
Speaker 1: pass rush hasn't been the same nearly this year. It's
Speaker 1: it's surprising. With no turnovers and three of the last
Speaker 1: four games on defense, they might be frustrated with the offense.
Speaker 1: To a quote from Ezekiel Elliott after the game, this
Speaker 1: is the most dominating performance since I've been here. There
Speaker 1: is one really quick that There is this one play
Speaker 1: in this game. If you watch where Zeke Elliott takes
Speaker 1: the ball because maybe five or six yards, but right
Speaker 1: into Jail and Ramsey and just walked, kept walking and
Speaker 1: pushing his helmet right into Ramsey's and it was that
Speaker 1: was sort of a backbreaking drive and moment in that
Speaker 1: game where the Jaguars never climbed back into that. I
Speaker 1: feel like people forget how incredible Zeke is. There's I
Speaker 1: saw some pole put up the other night when s
Speaker 1: Quan was going crazy, and it was like best running
Speaker 1: back in the NFL, and there were a list of
Speaker 1: four names and then other and Ezekiel Elliott isn't one
Speaker 1: of the names. I'm thinking, like, put some respect on
Speaker 1: hair in the beard. It's a it's a bad combination
Speaker 1: and I think it holds him back a little bit.
Speaker 1: Let's move on revers stakes, the hand off steps to
Speaker 1: his laugh wants the end zone, puts it up in
Speaker 1: the air for grabs, and that ball is up for
Speaker 1: grabs in the end zone. Don't know if it was intercepted. Touchsdown.
Speaker 1: Hello Tyrone Williams and that Money Smith and that was
Speaker 1: DJ Daniel Jeremiah with the call. There some guy kf I.
Speaker 1: Philip rivers through two touchdown passes the Tyrelle Williams, including
Speaker 1: that wildcatch and triple coverage. Melvin Gordon had three touchdown runs.
Speaker 1: The Chargers bullied Baker Mayfield and the Browns four team
Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Nick Shook joins us now resident Browns fan
Speaker 1: Um Shookie. On Thursday, I was talking about the Chargers
Speaker 1: time to beat up on a legit opponent. The Browns
Speaker 1: seemed to fit that description entering week six and the
Speaker 1: ultimate it look easy. That's because they don't fit that description.
Speaker 1: He's already out. I'm not out. This is a team
Speaker 1: that is probably gonna win six or seven games, and
Speaker 1: it's gonna for every good game they have, every maybe
Speaker 1: one or two wins in a row they streamed together,
Speaker 1: they'll also have a setback and it's just gonna be
Speaker 1: a little it's a slow incline with some hitches. They've
Speaker 1: only had one bad game out of the first game
Speaker 1: that was out on defense. Yes, I'm saying, but as
Speaker 1: a team, this is the only performance you could look
Speaker 1: at and say it was a disappointment. I think this
Speaker 1: is the only team that you could look at that's
Speaker 1: been on their schedule so far that could be considered
Speaker 1: a team that maybe eight to ten weeks from now,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be looking at his potential favorite in the postseason.
Speaker 1: I think the Chargers are vastly underrated, and this is
Speaker 1: one of the first games they've put together a total
Speaker 1: game in the season so far, and I think an
Speaker 1: indicator of what's to come for them. I think he'll
Speaker 1: be fine physically, but there was a moment in this
Speaker 1: game when Baker Mayfield came out of bounds and crashed
Speaker 1: into the chain thing on the ground and he it
Speaker 1: was his ankle. It looked like he he never really
Speaker 1: was the same after this. Also on the Cleveland side,
Speaker 1: I mean, just like we talked about with Jacksonville, they
Speaker 1: had I think you said it was two active whiteouts
Speaker 1: at one point. Yeah, because just you know, Damien Ratley
Speaker 1: got hurt after going up for a catch in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Yeah, they still a good sign when Damien
Speaker 1: Ratley injury is killing you and the AI's year leading
Speaker 1: receiver a Rod streeteror injury was killing them. The mayfield
Speaker 1: play was unfortunate because they had dropped the sideline. Dudes
Speaker 1: had dropped the marker on the ground as he was
Speaker 1: running out of bounds, and he just stepped on it
Speaker 1: and you could see immediately his ankle give way a
Speaker 1: little bit and he he had a bad limp. The
Speaker 1: very next play he qb sneaked it for a first down.
Speaker 1: So he thought he was gonna be okay, but apparently
Speaker 1: it's something that that bothered him. But he he got
Speaker 1: beat up in this game. He got sacked five times,
Speaker 1: He threw two interceptions, and and the Chargers, you guys
Speaker 1: love the Chargers. This is a game that that starts
Speaker 1: to make me feel differently about them, because Phil Rivers
Speaker 1: is playing as good as ever right now, and Joey
Speaker 1: Bosa is right around the bend now, and the defense
Speaker 1: looks better now look out, the Bolts are maybe for real.
Speaker 1: What's really interesting about this Chargers team is they managed
Speaker 1: to find success pressuring Mayfield, whether he was hurt or not.
Speaker 1: They squeeze the pocket on him a lot with just
Speaker 1: four guys, and it allowed all of those defenders in
Speaker 1: the you know, in the in the secondary and in
Speaker 1: the linebacking corps to drop back and play coverage. And
Speaker 1: if they can get that kind of consistent success, you
Speaker 1: better watch out for l's losses come to the Chiefs
Speaker 1: and Rams. Right. Yeah, there's no doubt in my mind
Speaker 1: their offense is legit. I think the question is how
Speaker 1: good is their defense and are the Browns with a
Speaker 1: decimated wide receiver corps a legitimate test I don't think
Speaker 1: this was an entirely accurate test um because of I
Speaker 1: think that the tweak injury to Mayfield it visibly effect
Speaker 1: you were you were saying coming into the game, this
Speaker 1: is a tough place to go play, a tough place. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that in terms of their defense, which is healthy, and
Speaker 1: they put it on their defense. They've been physical, They're
Speaker 1: running backs are playing well. They're averaging over two yards
Speaker 1: and two touchdowns a game. It's on my radar. They've
Speaker 1: got this hash you know how every team has their
Speaker 1: own hashtag and there you know, most are just kind
Speaker 1: of very simple. And the Chargers used to be like
Speaker 1: fight for l A. But this year it's hashtag fight
Speaker 1: for each other, which is which is a mouthful, but
Speaker 1: you heard some but I think the point is like
Speaker 1: l A doesn't care, like we don't like we're a
Speaker 1: road team, even in our home and you listen to
Speaker 1: some of the players. Philip Rivers after the game said
Speaker 1: there would be nothing worse than losing to Cleveland and
Speaker 1: then spending four more days in Cleveland, because that's what
Speaker 1: they're doing this week before they fly over to London.
Speaker 1: They're getting banged, you know, in terms of their travel.
Speaker 1: And I think maybe there's a feeling, especially if they
Speaker 1: can go and beat the Titans, it's like, hey, it's us,
Speaker 1: it's us against every one, and we got a little
Speaker 1: something cooking, all right, fight for each other. And and
Speaker 1: one last note, uh shout out to Spicy because all
Speaker 1: those years ago. He was right about Melvin Gordon, who
Speaker 1: has taking his game up another level this year. Three
Speaker 1: touchdowns add thirty two on the ground. Still remember the
Speaker 1: quote Melvin Gordon would rush for two thousand yards as
Speaker 1: a rookie if the Cowboys draft him. Doesn't seem so
Speaker 1: ridiculous anymore, just a little bit ridiculous. Let's move on.
Speaker 1: Peterman takes the snap, He's looking left. He throws that way.
Speaker 1: It's picked off by up Across up ted five rock
Speaker 1: and roll, But Texas going front picks Yes, love and
Speaker 1: old white guys summon rock and roll spirit, indomitable spirit
Speaker 1: of rock and roll. Mark vander Meer with the call
Speaker 1: for k I l T. Jonathan Joseph's twenty eight yard
Speaker 1: pick six with one to play was the difference lifting
Speaker 1: the Houston Texas to win over the Buffalo Bills. Nate Peterman,
Speaker 1: who replaced an injured Josh Allen, through that interception and
Speaker 1: then through another one in the final seconds to doom
Speaker 1: Buffalo shook. It was not pretty, but the Texans have
Speaker 1: gone from oh and three to first place in the
Speaker 1: ANFC South in a hurry. The wild thing was I
Speaker 1: spent a lot of the fourth quarters, sitting here going,
Speaker 1: oh man, the Texans cannot lose this game. They absolutely
Speaker 1: cannot afford to lose this game in this fashion to
Speaker 1: Nate Peterman and Za Jones and not be able to
Speaker 1: move the football because for much of the afternoon they
Speaker 1: couldn't protect a Shawn Watson to save their lives. And
Speaker 1: then they got a little bit of a gift in
Speaker 1: the form of Nate Peterman late in the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: with that pick six, because right before then they had
Speaker 1: the ball in the one yard line and couldn't put
Speaker 1: couldn't punch it in and had to settle for a
Speaker 1: field goal, and we were looking at overtime. So they
Speaker 1: kind of squeaked away with this one. But they're back
Speaker 1: to three and three. This team represents the league more
Speaker 1: than any other they could be and six. They're in
Speaker 1: first place and they haven't played a good game yet.
Speaker 1: Ye Shaun Watson was hit I think twelve times in
Speaker 1: this game, sixty six for the season. He had two interceptions,
Speaker 1: three fumbles, and was sacked seven times. And you find
Speaker 1: a way to win that game. You're just hoping that
Speaker 1: you can improve as you go, because they're getting some
Speaker 1: ws as as West said, without really playing that well,
Speaker 1: how does the line improve them? Because this has been
Speaker 1: a week to week ill for them, and I wonder
Speaker 1: Watson was banged up last week. I'm assuming it came
Speaker 1: out of this without any physical issues. But how long
Speaker 1: do you how do you ask someone to last for
Speaker 1: another two plus months? You ask your front office to
Speaker 1: address the line, which they haven't done, in which they
Speaker 1: did a shoddy job up in the off season. They
Speaker 1: did address it, but there's just what's available. You can
Speaker 1: You can overpay for Nate's solder and even then you
Speaker 1: lose out on him to the Giants. You decided not
Speaker 1: to play that, you decided not to pay Dayne Brown,
Speaker 1: you traded him instead. That yes, that's fair. That that's
Speaker 1: the one bang I got on them about this whole thing,
Speaker 1: But I understand that he was not content there, so
Speaker 1: you gotta you have to move that guy. But it's
Speaker 1: hurting them now, and it's Yeah, this is a young
Speaker 1: quarterback that a lot of people were excited about going
Speaker 1: into the season, and and so far he has not
Speaker 1: been able to really spread his wing. He's not on
Speaker 1: the field much longer. He can't take this beating. He
Speaker 1: barely survived last week's game. I didn't get a chance
Speaker 1: to see this game yet, but like you just have
Speaker 1: to wonder how many more hits he's gonna take. Bills
Speaker 1: are legit defense. They deserve credit from after the first
Speaker 1: few weeks, they've gotten it together. They gave up two
Speaker 1: sixteen yards today. They're tough. You know. It's sad that
Speaker 1: offensively they can't put it together more. Although Josh Allen
Speaker 1: slowly but surely is starting to look like a semi
Speaker 1: company quarterback. First of all, what happened to him? He
Speaker 1: got hurt, hit in the elbow. It was a bad
Speaker 1: it was throwing elbow. What are they saying about? It
Speaker 1: was after a throw and it knocked him out for
Speaker 1: the rest of the game. So I'd imagine it looked
Speaker 1: like it might have been like a nerve issue to
Speaker 1: where he kept doing this, like he couldn't feel his
Speaker 1: right and the surprising points in twelve quarters. So let's come.
Speaker 1: It surprises me that you say that, because I was
Speaker 1: seeing tweets before the injury that he looked miserable again
Speaker 1: and lost it. Well, it depends on what you look
Speaker 1: at it as, because you look at it is if
Speaker 1: he's uncomfortable in the pocket and that he's pulling down
Speaker 1: the ball to run immediately, then yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: But if you're saying that, well, he needs to get
Speaker 1: rid of the ball and make it more decisions quicker
Speaker 1: than you have a grape there as well. That's why
Speaker 1: I say very small. It's a crawl. This was the
Speaker 1: guy they said was not going to play as a rookie,
Speaker 1: and they just have a terrible situation in general, and
Speaker 1: maybe he does need more time. I think each game,
Speaker 1: like last game last week, you saw things, especially on
Speaker 1: the ground where you can see maybe why is a
Speaker 1: starting quarterback. But there's a lot of incomplete stuff here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, without a doubt, he's still got a long
Speaker 1: way to go. But it's just a little more exciting
Speaker 1: than you know playing you know AJ mccarrien like they
Speaker 1: were looking at going into the season. Very true, Nick Shook,
Speaker 1: you came in here and you did it again. Then
Speaker 1: you're wearing a throwback nineteen nineties Calvs pull over, loyal
Speaker 1: to the cause, even with j R. Smith at the
Speaker 1: front of the franchise. It's nice that whenever I sit
Speaker 1: about a foot away from us, am right now, I
Speaker 1: realized it's time to reorganize everything I'm doing with my
Speaker 1: physical body all right over under calves wins. I'm setting
Speaker 1: it thirty six and a half. Thank you. That's respectful,
Speaker 1: because downstairs I had a colleague tell me they wouldn't where,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't win thirty games. What do you so? You're
Speaker 1: taking the your banging over over to the eighth seed
Speaker 1: and beyond, let's flirt with five hundred. This is Kevin
Speaker 1: Love's team. Now, oh boy, here we go moving ons.
Speaker 1: J Sanders seven yards. It kicked up. The kick is show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh no, the Tayson Sanders is won today for the
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. No flags, it's over. We're off the roller coaster.
Speaker 1: I can't take anymore. A nice job by the w
Speaker 1: q A M team. Jason Sanders kicked a forty seven
Speaker 1: yard field goal in the final playoff overtime, that coming
Speaker 1: after Cody Parkey of the Bear has missed a fifty
Speaker 1: three yard attempt for Chicago. The Build the Bear Top Bears,
Speaker 1: blowing eleven point lead uh in the second half, loose
Speaker 1: to the Dolpins thirty eight to twenty eight. A huge
Speaker 1: win for Miami at home down their starting quarterback brock Oswiler,
Speaker 1: filled in for Ryan Tanna, who was out with a
Speaker 1: shoulder injury, and he threw for It's a three touchdowns
Speaker 1: Gregg wild game in my hand, Miami. But let's start here.
Speaker 1: Give Brock some love. He got the job done. He said.
Speaker 1: He was emotional on the way to the game. He
Speaker 1: found out by a text that Ryan Tannehill, who practiced
Speaker 1: fully Wednesday and Thursday with the shoulder injury and now
Speaker 1: isn't playing and you have to wonder is he's gonna
Speaker 1: be out for a little while. Brock was emotional thinking, look,
Speaker 1: I got this opportunity. Who knows how many I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have left? Uh? And he responded, running Adam Gaze's offense
Speaker 1: pretty similarly to how Ryan Tannehill runs it, where I
Speaker 1: don't think the quarterback is really front and center, and
Speaker 1: that that wasn't the case today either. It was more
Speaker 1: about the running backs, and it was more about Hakeem
Speaker 1: Grant and then especially Albert Wilson making big plays off
Speaker 1: of short throws. And uh, I give Adam Gaze a
Speaker 1: lot of credit for giving the ball to Kenyan Drake
Speaker 1: on the game winning drive right after Kenyan Drake fumbled
Speaker 1: on the goal line. I think that was really Adam
Speaker 1: Gaze thinking long term about a guy who's important to
Speaker 1: him and is a really good player, is not a fumbler,
Speaker 1: and saying, I'm gonna give this kid his confidence back.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna trust him in this situation. He picked up
Speaker 1: twenty two of the twenty yards they needed to set
Speaker 1: up that field goal, that he got the ball in
Speaker 1: three of the four snaps on that drive, and they
Speaker 1: go and win the game. And Drake, who was crying
Speaker 1: openly on the sidelines for a while, uh is feeling
Speaker 1: a lot better about himself. Other things we can give
Speaker 1: Adam Oh no, not today, Brock. I can believe it today, buddy.
Speaker 1: Other things we can give it Adam Gays credit for
Speaker 1: signing Albert Wilson, Yeah, signing Frank Gore, Yes, absolutely, big
Speaker 1: game for Frank, and getting the ball to Jachim Grant
Speaker 1: every single week, not making him an afterthought like he
Speaker 1: was last year. They're putting the ball in his hands
Speaker 1: weekly and he's making big plays. I know, Greg, you
Speaker 1: were steaming at the end of this the way the
Speaker 1: Chicago in overtime in your mind, and I think you're right.
Speaker 1: Did not push for this win. They pushed for an
Speaker 1: excessively long field goal. Mitchell Drabinsky wasn't trusted by at
Speaker 1: him Gaze, I mean by Matt Nagy. He went against
Speaker 1: this total instincts, which is this year has been aggressive, aggressive,
Speaker 1: you know, trust your guys. They get the ball in
Speaker 1: position to win the game in overtime, and then they
Speaker 1: run three straight runs. And they had been running the
Speaker 1: ball pretty well, but one of them was on third
Speaker 1: and four, a zone run into a stack box, and
Speaker 1: that was that was telling me they did not trust Robinsky,
Speaker 1: who did not earn any trust despite his statistics, the
Speaker 1: most misleading stats I've seen anyone. He did not play
Speaker 1: a good game today. But still I sit next to
Speaker 1: he's your quarterback. He got a trust. I sitting next
Speaker 1: to a Bears fan down in the newsroom Ali who
Speaker 1: had the same feeling though, And I guess maybe with
Speaker 1: some Bear Bears fans or a lot of Bears fans, uh,
Speaker 1: they feel the same way that Troubinsky there. Despite the
Speaker 1: growth that he's had in the last couple of weeks
Speaker 1: or at least last their last game. Um, they're not
Speaker 1: ready to put the game in his hands yet. But
Speaker 1: you can still call up a safe passing play. This
Speaker 1: is a very smart play caller. And Mattneggie I think
Speaker 1: they really just kind of gagged a little bit. Matt
Speaker 1: Neggie may not ust to Mitchell Robisky, but you want
Speaker 1: to know who I trust, oh, er I woke up
Speaker 1: this morning and saw these reports that suddenly brock Osweiler
Speaker 1: was quarterbacking the team that Erica had locked up, and
Speaker 1: a team that she picked because essentially Danny am Mondola
Speaker 1: is seen as an attractive human to her. That's why
Speaker 1: that said not anymore after today. Well, when I came
Speaker 1: into the office and you suggested Gregor that it would
Speaker 1: have been fair to switch the lock and all this stuff,
Speaker 1: I knew I would. I didn't think about it. I
Speaker 1: would have take endless grief for that number one. And
Speaker 1: that's a bad idea. So you sit and deal with
Speaker 1: the results. But Erica knew all along. She did an
Speaker 1: excellent job, and I'm going to continue to seek her
Speaker 1: counsel on picking teams with attractive players at some position
Speaker 1: or another. And that would have been declined because it
Speaker 1: was made clear on Thursday that Erica was in charge.
Speaker 1: It was I didn't nobody pursued it. Don't worry about it,
Speaker 1: so nobody pursued it. That's good because it would have
Speaker 1: been declined. But you know what, at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, at the end of the day, you got
Speaker 1: exactly what you needed, which is another lock in Erica.
Speaker 1: Nice job, thank you, thank you. Yeah. I felt like
Speaker 1: I had some insider information because you know, me and
Speaker 1: Danny are so close, like, and he felt really good
Speaker 1: about this game, so he knew he maybe knew Brack
Speaker 1: was gonna play, and that that would be leaned on
Speaker 1: your knowledge. Well, this is gonna take a lot of
Speaker 1: leg work for you, Greg, and it's gonna take some
Speaker 1: extra time. But I would like to see as part
Speaker 1: of your QB Index on a weekly basis, which teams
Speaker 1: play for the field goal instead of the touchdown with
Speaker 1: the game on the line, and that reflects on the quarterback.
Speaker 1: It's a plague. Get to work on that research. It's
Speaker 1: something that is part of our Sunday pet. You put
Speaker 1: it a lot. Do you put it in your column?
Speaker 1: I don't have a quarterback. It's like hundreds of hours
Speaker 1: of research before top ten coaches that set up field
Speaker 1: goals instead of going forth. This is also your week.
Speaker 1: This is part of the weekly game watching experience with
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal calling out coaches every week for playing for that.
Speaker 1: I think it's one of the only things fans almost
Speaker 1: have a right to think that they have a better
Speaker 1: idea than the coaches about It's like because it's it's
Speaker 1: just obvious that setting up for long field goals is
Speaker 1: a losing game. And we'll get to a little bit later,
Speaker 1: but this is all the same. Also the same Greg
Speaker 1: that earlier today was pounded his chest about it being
Speaker 1: okay to settle for a fifty seven yard field goal
Speaker 1: with the game on the line. But you know, we
Speaker 1: didn't even talk about that. We we we should have.
Speaker 1: That was bizarre, But they were up. That was a
Speaker 1: totally different That was a totally different were up to.
Speaker 1: But I still care we're going for I cannot believe that,
Speaker 1: and that was a big play in that game. But
Speaker 1: I digress. How about how about Frank Gore, by the way,
Speaker 1: mocked in this very room this offseason as some over
Speaker 1: the hill guy who shouldn't have a job goes over
Speaker 1: a hundred yards, looked awesome playing Grey in Miami. I
Speaker 1: love it, and you and you can't even blame them
Speaker 1: for taking him out on the goal line. He said
Speaker 1: he was gassed actually, and it was basically his call
Speaker 1: to have his his brother Kenyan Drake in there. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm eating. Crow over Frank Gore. Let's move on,
Speaker 1: Let's sideline hot up and clicking to catch at the ten,
Speaker 1: Chris Herndon walks into the end. So touch down, perfectly
Speaker 1: designed play by Jeremy Bates, Big play Bob with Susan
Speaker 1: with the call for the Jets radio network, Sam Donald
Speaker 1: through for two eight and two touchdowns, including that hook
Speaker 1: up with Chris Herndon in the third quarter. Jason Meyers
Speaker 1: said a franchise record with seven field goals, and the
Speaker 1: Jets hung on to beat the Colts forty two to
Speaker 1: thirty four at the Meadow Ends and a rematch of
Speaker 1: Super Bowl three participants with Broadway Joe and many of
Speaker 1: the sixty eight Jets in the building for a halftime
Speaker 1: fifty anniversary celebration. They've had many of those over the years,
Speaker 1: and many many celebrations of that team. New York. New
Speaker 1: York punted just once against Indie Saggy d West. Andrew
Speaker 1: Luck was up for the challenge on Sunday. The rest
Speaker 1: of his team was not. I was telling Greg during
Speaker 1: our Sky Sports. This is like the old super Techno
Speaker 1: Super Bowl when you're about fifteen and oh, trying to
Speaker 1: go undefeated and they make you fumble every punt return fumble,
Speaker 1: this fumble that your best players are getting injured every
Speaker 1: every This is Andrew Luck every week, Bill Simmons, because
Speaker 1: the similar thing would happen in Madda and Bill Bill
Speaker 1: Simmons called the No fin Way game. Yeah, they luck.
Speaker 1: On the opening drive, Marlon Mack has a screen pace
Speaker 1: screen pass, a basic screen pass off, Marlon Max hands off,
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams hands into Mo Claiborne's hands for a touchdown.
Speaker 1: It was just that kind of afternoon, you know. Luck
Speaker 1: comes right back, leads him on a quick touchdown drive
Speaker 1: in which his ball placement is once again impeccable, comes back,
Speaker 1: leads him again down there, and Niheim Hines drops a
Speaker 1: ball right in his bread basket on the goal line
Speaker 1: and they have to settle for a field goal. This
Speaker 1: is just like behind the eight ball all game. And
Speaker 1: credit Sam Donald for playing well. I thought one of
Speaker 1: the keys was you knew, Dan had to know Andrew
Speaker 1: Luck is leading this team on a comeback bid. And
Speaker 1: they kept that at Bay because Darnald kept leading field
Speaker 1: goal drives and Jason Meyer's day his credit kept making
Speaker 1: the field goals. That was huge. I mean Meyer's going
Speaker 1: seven for seven. That broke a fifty year old, fifty
Speaker 1: year old mark for field goals for the franchise. And yeah, um,
Speaker 1: I'm real, I'm like head over heels about Donald. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know they he would have had another touchdown to
Speaker 1: Robby Anderson dropped the ball in the corner of the
Speaker 1: end zone that was perfectly placed. Otherwise they would have
Speaker 1: even put more points on the board. I thought that
Speaker 1: Donald the exception of one bad rookie interception he threw
Speaker 1: in the first half where he kind of hung one
Speaker 1: up that got picked off. Uh, he once again was calm,
Speaker 1: he made He puts so many throws right on the money,
Speaker 1: right where a receiver needs it. And uh every time
Speaker 1: the Colts, like West said, seemed to be about to
Speaker 1: get back into the game, and they did get it
Speaker 1: down to six. At one point it was thirty thirteen Jets.
Speaker 1: They got it down to six, and then they would
Speaker 1: go down on the field for another long drive. You
Speaker 1: want some of those to be turned into touchdowns. But
Speaker 1: the point is there was no three and outs. Uh.
Speaker 1: He kept the team moving and uh and and the
Speaker 1: Colts were weren't able to ever catch up. So, um,
Speaker 1: Luck is great luck. There is no question to me
Speaker 1: that Luck is Andrew Luck still uh, and that comes
Speaker 1: with the good and the bad. This was a pure
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck game right down to he threw a terrible
Speaker 1: interception that kind of sealed India's fate late in the game. Uh.
Speaker 1: That was definitely on him. The early ones were not,
Speaker 1: but Luck killed them a little bit at certain points.
Speaker 1: But overall he's a stud and he still is. I
Speaker 1: think it's an indictment to the Colts front office that
Speaker 1: you've had this time while Andrew Luck has gone to
Speaker 1: find a support system for his return, and it's the
Speaker 1: New York Jets and a credit to their front office
Speaker 1: that has a better surrounding cast around Donald right now
Speaker 1: than the Colts do around Luck. The Cults are just
Speaker 1: so decimated by injuries, but this seems to be what
Speaker 1: we say about them every single year, that they're decimated
Speaker 1: by injuries around Andrew Luck. And I've been building in
Speaker 1: Doyle or their top two weapons. Well, I've been a
Speaker 1: thin offense and picking on Eli a little bit because
Speaker 1: look what Luck has around him and still getting four
Speaker 1: hundred yards of offense every game. But this also extends
Speaker 1: to a team like the Titans who aren't moving the ball.
Speaker 1: The Colts are moving the ball so well for a
Speaker 1: team that's just absolutely decimated by injury. Was this Uh,
Speaker 1: you guys have watched all of his games? That was this?
Speaker 1: Sam Donald's most complete I think it was. You could
Speaker 1: put you could put this game in the week one
Speaker 1: game probably uh, neck and neck, But this game, I
Speaker 1: just thought he was so in control in his accuracy
Speaker 1: and his ability to evade pressure and and not force
Speaker 1: and make rookie errors. He made one, but I just think, yeah,
Speaker 1: and Quincy and Noon has a potentially serious ankle injury.
Speaker 1: He left this game earlier and there's a chance he
Speaker 1: could be out for a long time, if not for
Speaker 1: the rest of the year. So tell Prior is gonna
Speaker 1: find a bigger role, and when he has had opportunities
Speaker 1: this season, he's actually done good things with him, So
Speaker 1: you're gonna see more. At the end of the day.
Speaker 1: The Jets to three and three, and the quarterback is
Speaker 1: making strides as the season progresses. So so far, so good.
Speaker 1: This is exactly what you wanted as a Jets fan,
Speaker 1: even if it doesn't lead to a playoff. Berth let
Speaker 1: us move on Marcus Mario in a pocket, collapsing pumps
Speaker 1: once and he has sacked at is a record tenth
Speaker 1: sack of the day by the Ravens defense. Paint On
Speaker 1: Owassu delivers the record drop down. Oh Jerry Sandusky w
Speaker 1: b a L with the call. Yikes. The Baltimore Ravens
Speaker 1: went nuts, setting a franchise record with eleven sacks, smothering
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariotta and the Titans a to zip shut out
Speaker 1: in Nashville, West. This was a throwback performance by the
Speaker 1: Baltimore defense. They bullied the Titoons into submission in their
Speaker 1: own backyard. They dominated this game. They man handled the
Speaker 1: Titans in every way you can manhandle the team. Uh.
Speaker 1: I guess there was a bit of a revenge factor.
Speaker 1: Their former defensive coordinator, Dean ps retired and then he
Speaker 1: came out of retirement to join the Titans. Um. It
Speaker 1: seemed like that fired up the Ravens defense quite a bit,
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of alim to go around. Marcus
Speaker 1: Mariota seemed to have troubled deciphering where the pressure was
Speaker 1: gonna come from before the snap. His offensive line didn't
Speaker 1: play well. The Ravens gave no respect whatsoever to the
Speaker 1: to the Titans wide receivers, because nobody should respect their
Speaker 1: wide receivers. Um. I think there's totally there. There's no
Speaker 1: running game for Tennessee. There's no chain mover with the
Speaker 1: Laney walker out. There's no semblance of a ball control
Speaker 1: offense whatsoever with this offense. One hundred and six yards
Speaker 1: the Titans ended up. This is one of those games
Speaker 1: you kind of look out insane. The stats are to
Speaker 1: three quarters and for some reason I always like root
Speaker 1: for them to stay that way. But usually the team
Speaker 1: just kind of racks up a bunch of garbage yards
Speaker 1: at the end. But not this game. They only ended
Speaker 1: up with a hundred and six yards. Well, seven first
Speaker 1: down he had left, he had less completions then he
Speaker 1: then times he was sacked. He never heard of that.
Speaker 1: At one point late in the third quarter, Mark said
Speaker 1: he's only got ten past attempts so far. Said, well,
Speaker 1: he's dropped back to past twenty times. He's just been
Speaker 1: only able to fire it off tentlem. The Titans had
Speaker 1: nine possessions and they punted nine times. That's tyoons. Excuse me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't deserve I mean, like I get the fan
Speaker 1: base getting nancy when they have a nice win. But
Speaker 1: this is a three and three team, and the three
Speaker 1: losses have been they've been so true to for him
Speaker 1: this year. There's been to me, no difference between this
Speaker 1: year and past years. So they get hot and little spurts,
Speaker 1: and then not only they lose, they look like a
Speaker 1: bottom run team when they have these bad performances. I
Speaker 1: gave their coaching staff quite a bit of credit for
Speaker 1: those wins they eked out early on, but Matt Lafleur,
Speaker 1: the coordinator, has to be under the microscope now. I
Speaker 1: believe they are by far the worst offense in the
Speaker 1: first half of games this year, and and the Ravens
Speaker 1: deserve a ton of respect for tripling a team in
Speaker 1: in total yardage and surviving what in the NFL is
Speaker 1: one of the toughest things. I think when you look
Speaker 1: at the schedule and you've got three straight road games
Speaker 1: at any point, that's draw in the short straw. They've
Speaker 1: had four out of six games on the road, uh
Speaker 1: and there four and two coming out of that they
Speaker 1: won two of these three road games, they they won
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, they win in Tennessee, both fairly handily. They
Speaker 1: lose that overtime game to the to the Browns. But overall,
Speaker 1: if you're a Browns fan, I mean a Ravens fan,
Speaker 1: they've managed this early part of the season. The Titans
Speaker 1: are the only team in football other than the Cardinals
Speaker 1: that haven't even scored a hundred points this year. Scored
Speaker 1: eighty seven points in six games. And I know you
Speaker 1: could look at a lot of people, but I'm also
Speaker 1: looking right at that quarterback. I mean, you gotta if
Speaker 1: you're a real franchise quarterback, you need to help raise
Speaker 1: the team. And there's nothing that I see that he's
Speaker 1: that guy. That's what I was saying Andrew Luck earlier.
Speaker 1: Compare what Marcus Mariota is working with that running back
Speaker 1: and wide receiver to the guys signed off the street
Speaker 1: that the Cults are working with and Lux got four
Speaker 1: hundred yards every week. I mean, this team a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago was built around the idea of a
Speaker 1: dominant offensive line and they would beat you up and
Speaker 1: run the ball and that would be their strength and
Speaker 1: good or for good or proveder worst Mariota eleven sacks
Speaker 1: or ten sacks in one game. I'm sure some of
Speaker 1: them were on him, but that's just how how can
Speaker 1: you operate as a quarterback. They had nine sacks in
Speaker 1: five games before this, so it's not just like but
Speaker 1: they haven't run the ball, which to me, with that
Speaker 1: mine and with the talent that they have in terms
Speaker 1: of Dion Lewis and Derrick Henry, that's one of the
Speaker 1: most surprising things. Not that you can't run against the Ravens.
Speaker 1: Ravens are a great team defense, but for six weeks
Speaker 1: they've not been a running team at all. Here's here's
Speaker 1: some mind blowing stats for you. Mariotta took more sacks
Speaker 1: today than Peyton Manning took in his entire two thousand
Speaker 1: nine MVP season. He had more sacks today than Dan
Speaker 1: Marino took and back to back to back seasons in
Speaker 1: the late eighties for the Dolls. That's why sacks that
Speaker 1: got the coach a couple of previous coaches fired to
Speaker 1: That is why a lot of it and I want
Speaker 1: to watch it at least saw some of the sacks,
Speaker 1: But sacks to me are half of a quarterback stat
Speaker 1: That's what That's one thing I never used to think
Speaker 1: until you you work football. That's a quarterback stat. And
Speaker 1: one last uh points that seventy seven points allowed by
Speaker 1: the Ravens in six games. That's first in the league.
Speaker 1: The next closest team is the Bears with nineties six.
Speaker 1: So this is a dangerous Ravens team and now they're
Speaker 1: tied for first place. Let's move on. Good play can
Speaker 1: look from the Shotguns takes cross it out to their
Speaker 1: west side. Ain't cook play, ain't cook put the Redskins
Speaker 1: hold the Panthers. Awesome comforts by Fabian Roe, Awesome coverage
Speaker 1: by everybody across the board. W T E M the
Speaker 1: Redskins radio network with a call. The Panthers fell in
Speaker 1: an early double digit hole never were able to dig
Speaker 1: themselves out. Cam Newton tossed three straight incompletions in the
Speaker 1: final minutes uh final minute, leading to a turnover on
Speaker 1: downs that clinched a Ritz Redskins seventeen win over the Panthers.
Speaker 1: Inland Over, the Skins forced three turnovers and got ninety
Speaker 1: seven yards from Adrian Peterson and generally looked like a
Speaker 1: completely different team than the one that got waxed by
Speaker 1: the Saints last Monday Night. A big narrative around this game,
Speaker 1: whether you care to get into it or not, is
Speaker 1: Josh Norman, who uh his first game UM or turn
Speaker 1: game against the Panthers, UH, coming off a week where
Speaker 1: he caught UM criticism both inside and outside his building
Speaker 1: and also was benched. During that Monday night game, he
Speaker 1: had his first interception since late two thousand sixteen, also
Speaker 1: broke up a pass, and generally was not UM an
Speaker 1: issue for the Washington Redskins, which is something that they
Speaker 1: expected more of, frankly when they gave him that huge contract.
Speaker 1: But so Josh Norman has a good game against his
Speaker 1: old team and West your boy Adrian Peterson uh in
Speaker 1: their three wins Washington's three wins, a p has at
Speaker 1: least ninety yards each game. UH. So when he gets
Speaker 1: the ball and he is chewing up yardage and the clock,
Speaker 1: they win games when he gets hurt, which is an
Speaker 1: issue with him at this stage. But when he gets
Speaker 1: hurt or they fall behind, it's a bad it's a
Speaker 1: bad situation for them. So Peterson has to be involved.
Speaker 1: I think this is something we've seen throughout the Jay
Speaker 1: Gruden era, and Mark has talked about it quite a bit.
Speaker 1: When the Redskins get up early, they will grind it
Speaker 1: out on you. They will run it down your throats.
Speaker 1: Their defense looks much better, and they can look as
Speaker 1: good as just about any team in the league, and
Speaker 1: then when they fall behind, they're a train wreck. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm glad the Panthers are three and two and the
Speaker 1: Redskins are three and two. I feel like that's where
Speaker 1: they should be, even though the Redskins have been as
Speaker 1: up and down a team as any team in the league.
Speaker 1: When you said it, when they've looked good, they've looked
Speaker 1: very good, and the Panthers, to me, weren't quite a
Speaker 1: four and one team. So it's like, I like it
Speaker 1: just when the teams find the appropriate I came out
Speaker 1: of the Saints game very concerned about the Redskins in general,
Speaker 1: so this is a nice bounce back went on a
Speaker 1: short week. I like the Panthers a lot better as
Speaker 1: a team than Washington. I think they just kind of
Speaker 1: screwed themselves with a very bad start in this game.
Speaker 1: I think Carolina probably beats this Redskins team seven out
Speaker 1: of ten games, but that's not what happened in this game.
Speaker 1: One one other note Alex Smith, who has been you know,
Speaker 1: on and off this season, definitely was not on in
Speaker 1: this game either. It should not be overlooked that he
Speaker 1: averaged um about four and a half yards per attempt
Speaker 1: of this game. Anybody else worried about him? That's a low,
Speaker 1: this kind of bad Alex Smith. That yeah, he is not.
Speaker 1: He has not looked like the guy he was in
Speaker 1: Kansas City. So um, but still they get the win,
Speaker 1: and um, he didn't throw it outside? And I think
Speaker 1: they should do that? What for one year, just one season?
Speaker 1: When you say, like the Panthers and Redskins that they
Speaker 1: played ten times, just for one year, have every team
Speaker 1: play one other team sixteen times and see what where
Speaker 1: you going? I mean a lot of fights. Think how
Speaker 1: definitive it would be Bengal Steelers games, no players left, right,
Speaker 1: whoever whoever comes out on top. Then they make a
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Speaker 1: chicken the league Paul Allen k f n A with
Speaker 1: a call. The Minnesota Vikings got a career best a
Speaker 1: hundred fifty five yards on the ground from Latavius Murray,
Speaker 1: including that touchdown, as the Bikes became the latest team
Speaker 1: to beat up on the hapless Cardinals. The finals seventeen
Speaker 1: in favor of Minnesota, which combined a strong ground game
Speaker 1: with a welcome return of their swarming defense. A nice
Speaker 1: get right game for the Purple people. Mark Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean you're getting an all Pro season from Adam Thealen,
Speaker 1: who has now six straight Ard performances and was dominant
Speaker 1: again today. It is eleven catches today, one with a touchdown.
Speaker 1: And there were various moments where you felt the Vikings
Speaker 1: just repeatedly putting the Cardinals away in this thing. It
Speaker 1: helped they have not been able to run the ball.
Speaker 1: We saw that firsthand when they were in that Rams
Speaker 1: game the week before that and after, so this was
Speaker 1: a you get a different offense when you can do
Speaker 1: what they've been trying to do, what they did last year.
Speaker 1: And for the Cardinals, I just I think our friend
Speaker 1: Jason Zumwald, who is a Cardinals fan and a die hard,
Speaker 1: and it is a long autumn they're being put through
Speaker 1: right now, because there's not a whole lot to like.
Speaker 1: If a couple of bright points though the defense this
Speaker 1: before this got out of hand, the defense did a
Speaker 1: lot to disrupt Kirk Cousins. I think they had six
Speaker 1: block passes. They generated an ugly interception for Cousins and
Speaker 1: a strip sack that wound up causing a touchdown for
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals as well, keeping them in this game.
Speaker 1: Attend to ten at one point, then the wheels fell off.
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen there just feels like someone who you're not
Speaker 1: getting the best version of David Johnson right now on
Speaker 1: any level. I cannot run the ball. I think what
Speaker 1: he has going on, I would not say he is
Speaker 1: bordering on that yet there is promise Sam Rosen. You know,
Speaker 1: Sam Rosen maybe is living his best nap seen this game.
Speaker 1: So it's a lot of Rosen that there was maybe
Speaker 1: too much Rosen, but I like, uh, what what he
Speaker 1: has with Christian Kirks. I think that Josh Rosen just
Speaker 1: needs a little bit more time here. Uh it's these
Speaker 1: Cardinals games are tough to watch. What do you try
Speaker 1: to say? Too much Rosen? You know what I'm saying, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you mean by that? You said that, I
Speaker 1: didn't say that. You know what I'm saying. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: there's never enough Rosen. Bring me all the Rosens. I
Speaker 1: think you had most of them, todays of them. Bring him.
Speaker 1: My favorite high school teacher's name was Mr Rosen. Was her?
Speaker 1: He was not involved in this red or maybe he
Speaker 1: could have picked up a third down because the Cardinals then,
Speaker 1: is the problem David Johnson or the offensive line or
Speaker 1: the play calls. I'm sure David Johnson isn't suddenly not
Speaker 1: a good running I think he's just hard. You can
Speaker 1: see the explosiveness in in some plays. So to me,
Speaker 1: it has to be the coaching in the in the line.
Speaker 1: It's one of the more like the few offensive coaching
Speaker 1: staffs lack as much creativity as the Cardinals appear to
Speaker 1: you right now, um enclosing, Mark are you okay with
Speaker 1: people that go by the last name Rosen, I never
Speaker 1: claim not to be. I don't know what this typical
Speaker 1: Dan driven narrative is. You said there's too many resins
Speaker 1: Dan driven, I I listen. I mean, do you know
Speaker 1: this is absurd? It's absurd. Let's get onto the next game.
Speaker 1: Goth is set up understander girl behind him, but one
Speaker 1: of the left saw Curly with space good fine too,
Speaker 1: gone touch down, Tuck Curly, touch down away, forget the
Speaker 1: first down. Real will take the touchdowns running like a
Speaker 1: wild man right now? Wow's that your neighbor JB JB
Speaker 1: Long with the casp and I sure hope so. Hod
Speaker 1: Gurley continues to dominate for the best team in football.
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley rush for two eight yards and two scores,
Speaker 1: leading the Ramps over the Broncos at Mile High. There
Speaker 1: was a garbage time touchdown in there. Don't get too
Speaker 1: hyped up, Broncos fans, not that you were. They hyped upright,
Speaker 1: Probably in a bad spot right now. Anyway, the Rams
Speaker 1: are in are an NFL best six and oh and Gurly,
Speaker 1: it's just the latest star Greg to enter that m
Speaker 1: v P conversation. I love seeing the Rams win different
Speaker 1: types of ways. You wanna hold our quarterback to two
Speaker 1: one yards? You know, completion any South America? So be it?
Speaker 1: What's going on? I don't need to listen to Erica?
Speaker 1: Oh the music was still. I just seen how long
Speaker 1: would have taken before she I had literally she's watching
Speaker 1: various like Boston sporting events have, and it was alright,
Speaker 1: totally tuned out. They show up there, it's a windy,
Speaker 1: snowy day. They lean on the running game like they
Speaker 1: did late last week. Yes, that's well, that's punched it in.
Speaker 1: That is well done. Two eight yards and a couple
Speaker 1: of touchdowns, including the key the key drive late in
Speaker 1: the game. It wasn't necessarily garbage time that the Broncos
Speaker 1: got back in this. It was a seven point game,
Speaker 1: about eight minutes to go, and the Rams got the
Speaker 1: ball and they did what good teams did. They ran
Speaker 1: out about five minutes of the clock and it was
Speaker 1: mostly girly. Problem is, even if it wasn't garbage time,
Speaker 1: it's hard just to believe in this Broncos offense. And
Speaker 1: it seemed for a moment or two here that one
Speaker 1: of Chris Wesleyan's accountable hop takes from the Twitter show
Speaker 1: might have come to fruition you mentioned you can explain it. Yes,
Speaker 1: that even Keenum or Advanced Joseph will be replaced by
Speaker 1: the end of the month. And when we saw Chack
Speaker 1: Kelly come out right before half time, we thought, hey,
Speaker 1: they finally yanked case Keenum. Yeah, it was a tough
Speaker 1: It was a tough moment for case Keenum. They were
Speaker 1: checking him for a concussion and the moment that he
Speaker 1: got out of the concussion test, which he passed, he
Speaker 1: heard a stadium full of Broncos fans cheering for swag
Speaker 1: Kelly coming on the field. Not gonna be the last
Speaker 1: time this season that happens. It's not. This was a
Speaker 1: great week for your for your prediction, Chris, because case
Speaker 1: Keenum through a terrible interception that stats look okay, but
Speaker 1: definitely missed a number of make uple throws. After the game,
Speaker 1: Vance Joseph said, cases are quarterback. But now we're into
Speaker 1: the answering that weekly part of the season. We're also
Speaker 1: into the answering his face. Vans Joseph is still gonna
Speaker 1: be I was gonna get to that because Ian Rapport
Speaker 1: reported that the Broncos are monitoring Vans closely. What does
Speaker 1: that mean? Like, well, I would think you're usually doing
Speaker 1: that with your head coach following home in his car,
Speaker 1: and the I R. S Is on the case, and
Speaker 1: they said Joseph was taking a little more hands on
Speaker 1: approach with the defense and oh yeah, bring it up.
Speaker 1: And there was a spot early in this game whereas
Speaker 1: fourth and three around midfield and he went for it,
Speaker 1: and I started thinking, this is this is not Vans
Speaker 1: being Vans. I don't mind them going for it, but
Speaker 1: you can almost feel like this is a call he's
Speaker 1: making because he's like, I gotta mix it up, I
Speaker 1: gotta do some cut to the Joseph house. It's like, honey,
Speaker 1: John always sitting in a van outside the house. Again,
Speaker 1: he's got monitoring equipment. He's watching us. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I would monitor John always. Inability to find a quarterback
Speaker 1: or an offensive line that just maybe the biggest issue.
Speaker 1: Garrett Bawls, their left tackle first round pick, has been
Speaker 1: a huge problem for them. He's in the Mangini vortex
Speaker 1: when you start doing things you wouldn't do because you
Speaker 1: want to try to act like someone you're not. I
Speaker 1: totally agree, and I think you the lway and the
Speaker 1: ownership will notice not almost ten thousand people didn't show
Speaker 1: up for this game that bought tickets. That doesn't happen
Speaker 1: in Denver. And I know the weather was bad and everything,
Speaker 1: but it's like a lot of people, a lot of
Speaker 1: people left. When it was twenty three, people started just
Speaker 1: going going to the exit. So that's a bad sign.
Speaker 1: My my tip for advance Joseph. Uh, you know it's
Speaker 1: only amount of time and it could have already happened.
Speaker 1: Uh that they put in monitoring device on your car
Speaker 1: to GPS you check check the gas cap. Sometimes what
Speaker 1: they do is they put a um, a fake gas
Speaker 1: cap onto your car, and that could be bugged. So
Speaker 1: I just ripped that thing off and lose it. It's
Speaker 1: good ad and um that's a starter. Just and keep
Speaker 1: your head on a swivel and watch out for the
Speaker 1: banana banana and the tail point. What always One last
Speaker 1: thing on the ram side is just that watching every
Speaker 1: team every week, Like you don't have to just pick
Speaker 1: someone else other than Aaron Donald for Defensive Player of
Speaker 1: the Year just because it's more exciting. Like I'm not
Speaker 1: convinced there's anyone better at football than Aaron Donald. Still
Speaker 1: week after week. I meant a long way to go.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, just keep that in mind. There's ten
Speaker 1: more games to go. He's pretty great. One more note,
Speaker 1: everybody hates the horse collar tackle because you lose a
Speaker 1: c l s because of it. Uh Jerry Rice and
Speaker 1: countless others through the years. I thought that's what happened
Speaker 1: at Cooper Cup on a sideline tackle in this game.
Speaker 1: Somehow he actually came back in the game. But Greg,
Speaker 1: you said he exited shortly after that. Uh, so I
Speaker 1: sue him. Everything checks out, okay, But when he got
Speaker 1: carded off the field, he wondered if it was the
Speaker 1: last time you saw that great triplet receiver group together.
Speaker 1: Hopefully it's nothing serious. Finally, or I shouldn't say finally.
Speaker 1: Penultimately that is correct, nice Penultimately, Yes, let's move on.
Speaker 1: There's a shotgun snap Russell fumbles to snap, books, Puff
Speaker 1: fakes steps up, droves to the ends. More series touched
Speaker 1: up Seahawks. As More goes over the back behind the
Speaker 1: end zone, here's the sand, but he hangs on. Steve
Speaker 1: Rabele kay I r oh with the call the NFL
Speaker 1: return to London. Shame we couldn't give you blokes. What's
Speaker 1: the what's the female equivalent of blokes out there, Sheila,
Speaker 1: that's that's Australian dames, a dame a bird birds just
Speaker 1: maybe not Yeah, bloke and far it's shames. We couldn't
Speaker 1: give you a better game. Russell Wilson through for three
Speaker 1: touchdowns the Seahawks roll to three victory over the Oakland
Speaker 1: Raiders at Wembley Stadium. Mark the Seahawks have their way
Speaker 1: with a very very bad Raiders team. Appreciate Greg very
Speaker 1: wisely staying out of that conversation in a minute ago.
Speaker 1: Um two things. I think Seattle's can hang around to
Speaker 1: the end, no matter what that's about basketball. I'm not
Speaker 1: interested now he knew. I'll let you guys blow yourselves up.
Speaker 1: This is Greg's new favorite team, Seattle. Greg is a supporter,
Speaker 1: and I think you should be after today. But the Raiders, meanwhile,
Speaker 1: are a raging embarrassment. This team is as disorganized as
Speaker 1: any in the NFL right now. They completely vanished today.
Speaker 1: And the problems do not extend to not Derek Carr
Speaker 1: as well. They can't protect him. He does not seem
Speaker 1: right to me right now. They can't run the ball.
Speaker 1: There's just a giant hot mess that could do nothing
Speaker 1: that will. Seahawk opened this game with a four team
Speaker 1: play eighty two yards scoring drive that milked almost eight
Speaker 1: minutes off the clock, and you knew the game was
Speaker 1: over the minute they scored. That's Brian Schottenheimer's wet dream.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're starting to play like Brian Schottenheimer wants
Speaker 1: them to play, which is these long, punishing, scoring drives,
Speaker 1: and they look pretty good doing it. And yeah, you're right, West,
Speaker 1: you never know what teams you're gonna start enjoying during
Speaker 1: the season. I'm kind of just feeling the Seahawks team
Speaker 1: as a team to watch out for. About that, I
Speaker 1: said downstairs, they they're either the best bad team or
Speaker 1: the worst good team. But there's there's fun to be had,
Speaker 1: and I think they're gonna be tough to be in Seattle.
Speaker 1: I think they're running game is pretty fun to watch.
Speaker 1: Their offensive line is certainly better, which is a relief
Speaker 1: after watching them for all these years. And everyone's gonna
Speaker 1: look better against the Raiders. I mean, you're right, it's
Speaker 1: not just the offense. That's just even like I went
Speaker 1: to you know, you look at the stats after the game,
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, how the Raiders doing the red zone
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, oh for oh, because they didn't
Speaker 1: they didn't get to the red zone, no, and then
Speaker 1: it did not reach there. Guys like you know, you
Speaker 1: go and try to sell us on Martevis Brian and
Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson and they both totally I'm not even sure
Speaker 1: they took the flight over from the States in this game,
Speaker 1: totally invisible, and their offensive tackle situation right now is
Speaker 1: such a mess. Frank Clark in the Seahawks defensive line
Speaker 1: absolutely dominated that matchup, and that's why I think it
Speaker 1: was over from the very beginning. I think when they traded,
Speaker 1: or I should say they John Gruden traded Khalil Mack,
Speaker 1: it was made clear that this is a rebuilding organization
Speaker 1: and this season was never gonna go well for them.
Speaker 1: They don't want it to go embarrassingly poorly, and it
Speaker 1: could be heading down that road. But I just I
Speaker 1: the only thing I'll say is that I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think it might be premature to say that the
Speaker 1: entire decision to bring John Gruden back is an embarrassing
Speaker 1: I would say even if season that is fair, even
Speaker 1: if he is a productive coach, that a year from
Speaker 1: now has them in a better place. Signing anyone to
Speaker 1: a ten year contract is hubre. It was crazy and
Speaker 1: there I just need time to see how this plays out.
Speaker 1: It was never gonna be a one year The Raiders
Speaker 1: are now relevant because John Gruden was bad. I just
Speaker 1: want to see how plays out because they're not. They're
Speaker 1: not a draft away from suddenly becoming something that we
Speaker 1: enjoy watching because he's getting rid of so many of
Speaker 1: the players that helped them before. The offensive line used
Speaker 1: to be good not so much anymore. Ian Rappaport did
Speaker 1: report after this game that Derek Carr was playing through
Speaker 1: his shoulder injury that they hope not gonna cause him
Speaker 1: to miss any time, but when he re injured, they
Speaker 1: have a bye week coming up. So it's crazy to
Speaker 1: look at the passing chart of where he threw the ball.
Speaker 1: He only threw two passes more than ten yards. He's
Speaker 1: an interesting crazy He's an interesting guy to watch it
Speaker 1: attempted to that went more than ten yards. He's an
Speaker 1: interesting guy to watch it because you wonder if he's
Speaker 1: going to be part of the rebuild to come, and
Speaker 1: if he ends up being a guy that's traded in
Speaker 1: the off season, who would be interested in the Derek
Speaker 1: car And where is his value in two thousand eighteen
Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen. But that's all down the road, and
Speaker 1: they're not going to be an eight and eight team.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have a top three or four pick potentially,
Speaker 1: so there may be another quarterback sitting out there. You
Speaker 1: just never know. You could say that about everyone on
Speaker 1: this roster who's going to be a part of the
Speaker 1: next Good Raiders team. The fact, if I'm a Shaks fan,
Speaker 1: the last thing I'd say on that is the fact
Speaker 1: that Doug Baldwin showed up and looked like a number
Speaker 1: one receiver again is like, is amazing news and and
Speaker 1: really augurs well for them. Going back to second second,
Speaker 1: let's let's let's recap here before we get to Sunday
Speaker 1: Night football. Greg drops an Augur's at that was because
Speaker 1: last night before a Minute, Mark liked it, and you
Speaker 1: also had atten large earlier in today's show. Somebody what
Speaker 1: didn't reading picks you? I was gonna say, what have
Speaker 1: you been perusing lately? Greg? Al right, not as much
Speaker 1: as I like. You know, football season makes it tough,
Speaker 1: good chatter. One more game to get to let's do
Speaker 1: it first grade down the sideline. He's been so silent
Speaker 1: night long. And then finally on Porkom in the biggest moment.
Speaker 1: And now for Tom Brady, he sees Crock, he sees
Speaker 1: one on one, he sees no help. Finally and he
Speaker 1: takes a shot. Rob Gronkowski from Tom Brady thirty nine
Speaker 1: yards down the right sideline set up the New England
Speaker 1: Patriots for the chip shot. Game winning field goal from
Speaker 1: UH Stephen Gastowski twenty eight yards was good right down
Speaker 1: the middle. Forty three to forty final New England Patriots
Speaker 1: prevail over the Kansas City Chiefs UH in a game
Speaker 1: that undoubtedly led to a midfield meeting for Andy Reid
Speaker 1: and Bill Belichick in which one set to the other
Speaker 1: hull see you in January. You think you think either
Speaker 1: one of those two would be that presumptuous. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just feel like that's something that somebody said somewhere
Speaker 1: on that field. UH. An amazing back and forth shootout.
Speaker 1: If you love offense, this was the game for you.
Speaker 1: A game in which, after a slow start for the
Speaker 1: Chiefs offense, UH, we're settling for field goals in the
Speaker 1: first half they went off in the second half, Tyreek
Speaker 1: Hill and Patrick Mahomes combined for three touchdowns, including a
Speaker 1: seventy five yard or that tied the game late in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. But as he's done all throughout his career,
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal uh Tom Brady answered the call. This man
Speaker 1: eighteen years or whatever. His junior pushed him to the limit.
Speaker 1: But Tolmy made the plays. He did a beautiful throw
Speaker 1: to Rob Gronkowski that we heard the second play from
Speaker 1: Gronk at the end of the game that comes to mind.
Speaker 1: Who was Gronk was quiet the whole time the whole game?
Speaker 1: Three catches yards also could pieces this week after Patriots
Speaker 1: Patriots loss. Is Gronk done so close and yet it
Speaker 1: won't happen? I mean, he's not the same in the
Speaker 1: open field, but that matchup when he's one on one
Speaker 1: against a safety east even on the winning lay, they
Speaker 1: were holding him and then he breaks free uses the
Speaker 1: strength and one play that stands out to me, though
Speaker 1: earlier in that drive, is Sony Michelle picking up a
Speaker 1: third and one through trash, which I think has been
Speaker 1: a huge development for this Patriots team all season. Short
Speaker 1: yardage plays were big in this game. They had a
Speaker 1: number of third and shorts where they were able to
Speaker 1: pick it up. That's a play they might not have
Speaker 1: picked up a year ago, and they did to keep
Speaker 1: that drive going. Gronk was quiet for three quarters. Chris
Speaker 1: Hogan was quiet for five games. Came up big on
Speaker 1: that third and one play deep down the field, and
Speaker 1: then later on the same drive set up the score.
Speaker 1: So Hogan finally showed up this year. I like it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you can come out of this sneaky,
Speaker 1: sneaky shot at Hogan settling score. So that that was
Speaker 1: a whole baked in West narrative there, and then a
Speaker 1: little bit of Houses did come up big with the
Speaker 1: game on the line. That's awesome. I'm not concerned. I
Speaker 1: come out of this like completely encouraged by the Kansas
Speaker 1: City Chiefs defense. Obviously the consistently lingering issues with their defense,
Speaker 1: but I have no problem with the way they dealt
Speaker 1: with this game. And who comes into Foxboro and puts
Speaker 1: up forty points like this, and with the they can
Speaker 1: score points and bunches so quickly, and they had the
Speaker 1: Patriots on the ropes till the very end here. But
Speaker 1: that's the issue. But they're not. They're not gonna play
Speaker 1: this offense every week. Yeah, but I think the Patriots
Speaker 1: defense showed what the trouble is. You cannot take away
Speaker 1: Kelsey and Tyreek Hill. Pick your poison one or the other. Right,
Speaker 1: the Patriots defense played well for a half. You know,
Speaker 1: they played good situational football, but they didn't force any
Speaker 1: punts until five minutes left in the game. And I
Speaker 1: I welcome it like this is I know you're uncomfortable
Speaker 1: with the damn this like offense led league sort of
Speaker 1: we're in right now. These are the two teams that
Speaker 1: have probably adopted like a game with no defense is
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's not your favorite style of football. No, No,
Speaker 1: I don't love games that are punts, right, you know,
Speaker 1: And and a lot of people agree with you, guys. Right.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people feel that way. And
Speaker 1: these are the two teams that I think have adopted
Speaker 1: some of the college cons epps and the and the
Speaker 1: offense offense offense spread approach more than any And I
Speaker 1: think there's gonna just be more games like this where
Speaker 1: it comes down to making like one defensive play like
Speaker 1: the Patriots did when it was cover zero and they
Speaker 1: went all out to get that one punt. The Chiefs
Speaker 1: fall from the ranks of the unbeaten. It is just
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams left now in that club. And
Speaker 1: more importantly, uh, the Patriots now have the head to
Speaker 1: head tiebreaker on the Chiefs. So you gotta track all
Speaker 1: this stuff. The Patriots year after year after year after
Speaker 1: year get a first round by because they seem to
Speaker 1: win these games, and they put themselves in position. If
Speaker 1: it gets down to a situation where these teams finished
Speaker 1: with the identical record, it would be New England that
Speaker 1: has the BIS. So keep an eye on that. The
Speaker 1: Chiefs I think are fine. They went toe to toe,
Speaker 1: but I really do think and who knows, there's a
Speaker 1: report out there. Uh, you know, it depends how much
Speaker 1: you trust this particular insider. But Patrick Peterson could be
Speaker 1: on the block in Arizona, although Steve Wilkes apparently shot
Speaker 1: that down vociferously. But I would be very aggressive on
Speaker 1: the market if I was the Chiefs because I do
Speaker 1: feel like maybe you're one defensive impact player away from
Speaker 1: going to the Super Bowl, and I worried that this
Speaker 1: defense is going to keep them from playing in Atlanta
Speaker 1: in February are the Patriots on defense in a much
Speaker 1: better position overall that can't rush the past, so they
Speaker 1: could not get to Patrick Mahomes on any level. This
Speaker 1: game just played out the way that you would want
Speaker 1: two of the most intriguing offenses in the NFL to operate.
Speaker 1: It was a lot like the Super Bowl. Fifty total yards,
Speaker 1: eighty three points back and forth could have gone to
Speaker 1: either team. Right Mark called it the minute it happened.
Speaker 1: When the Chiefs scored on their twelve second touchdown drive
Speaker 1: to Tyreek Hill, that that just timing wise, that was
Speaker 1: sort of the best, the best way the Patriots could
Speaker 1: give up that touchdown, and the odds were saying the
Speaker 1: Patriots probably we're going to give up a touchdown on
Speaker 1: that drive. So they had three minutes and ten seconds
Speaker 1: to work it, and you would take Tom Brady's chances
Speaker 1: in that scenario every time. So thirty eight and forty three,
Speaker 1: that's the Patriots scoring in their last three games. That's
Speaker 1: the crazy thing is that they offer did any offensive
Speaker 1: worries from earlier in the season. Seemed to be a
Speaker 1: long time ago right for New England, which is essentially
Speaker 1: how we always feel. By about October eighteen, I don't
Speaker 1: think anybody bought into the Patriots are in trouble on
Speaker 1: offense narrative. They don't look explosive. I know, they just
Speaker 1: scored forty three points and racked up five hundred yards,
Speaker 1: but that was against the Chiefs defense, which gives up
Speaker 1: almost five hundred yards every game. But to me, they're
Speaker 1: still like reliant on Sony Michelle and James White still
Speaker 1: scored four thirty plus and four of six games this
Speaker 1: year in the first half for three games. You know,
Speaker 1: a month ago, you didn't have Edellyn, you didn't have
Speaker 1: Josh Gordon, and I think both of those players are still,
Speaker 1: you know, rounding into shape in this offense. One last
Speaker 1: note from the Chief's defense side speaks. The rookie Chris
Speaker 1: Collins made a big deal of this. Uh the the
Speaker 1: scramble for the touchdown Brady's final touchdown of the game,
Speaker 1: UH speaks seemed to have him wrapped up for a
Speaker 1: sack and then let up on him, which allowed Brady
Speaker 1: to kind of sidestep in slow motion into daylight and
Speaker 1: then get into the end zone. I'd be interested to
Speaker 1: hear after the game. We're not gonna hear it, but
Speaker 1: you'll know by the time you listen to this, probably
Speaker 1: whether speak says that he did that because he didn't
Speaker 1: want to get a penalty, which would be a bummer,
Speaker 1: But he did seem to ease up on Brady wanting
Speaker 1: a chance to have a huge seck that would make
Speaker 1: it would have made it fourth down, and I believe
Speaker 1: that what was the situation at that point would have
Speaker 1: been kicking for a tie field. Are we letting defenders
Speaker 1: off the hook for this? To me, that's not acceptable
Speaker 1: down right, And honestly watching it, I think he was
Speaker 1: just a big guy that was moving too fast and
Speaker 1: felt That's what I'm saying. I think it was more clumps.
Speaker 1: I was a little surprised the cons which were so
Speaker 1: strong on it. I want to hear from the player,
Speaker 1: but you couldn't see it that way, and I'd be
Speaker 1: interesting to see what happens. But there you go, big game,
Speaker 1: bro that that's gonna be one of the better prime
Speaker 1: time games we see this season. And yes, like maybe
Speaker 1: happened in midfield. You know, somebody probably said see in January,
Speaker 1: a lot of there's a lot of tempts in the
Speaker 1: room during that whole game. I mean, it was it
Speaker 1: was fiery in this room. Yeah right, just two rooting
Speaker 1: for the Patriots. Two people block it up, not too
Speaker 1: much Wes five and oh now, congratulations, thank you. That
Speaker 1: was a nail biter. Who who thinks you're gonna lose?
Speaker 1: I don't. I think you're going straight through the show.
Speaker 1: I do not think I'm gonna go undefeated. Uh. We
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