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Speaker 1: Spice Rack. Welcome back to another edition of the Around
Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansus, and I'm
Speaker 1: joined in a room filled with heroes Mark Sessler, Chris
Speaker 1: Westling and Greg Rose withal what is that? Boys? Hey dude, Hey,
Speaker 1: I got no beef with the Rack, nor do I. Well,
Speaker 1: that feels like something just stirred up again by whoever's
Speaker 1: directing these these reds. Yeah, which I don't appreciate it
Speaker 1: quite frankly. We're you know, we're peaceful people. You're useful folk.
Speaker 1: You're desert consigliari Chris Westling. That gives us lots of
Speaker 1: good football tips. And I've I've developed quite a nice
Speaker 1: relationship with this's gonna formerly formerly my desert Consiglia, now
Speaker 1: Greg's Desert. He's a talented man. Uh feels slightly possessed
Speaker 1: by Greg there, but we can roll on. Mark. I
Speaker 1: notice you're wearing your fancy green shirt with the buttons
Speaker 1: again under the button up. It goes well with your
Speaker 1: nice haircut. You're looking good at cut and got a haircut. Um.
Speaker 1: This shirt I found out because I tried to put
Speaker 1: it under various things in my house. Does not work
Speaker 1: with most of my most of my clothing items. It's
Speaker 1: for people because this is an audio medium. It's a
Speaker 1: kind of like a military green color with two very
Speaker 1: sexy buttons. You see, Greg, I see green, military green. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then your hair nice and tight on the sides,
Speaker 1: and then a little party up top, which is this
Speaker 1: is this is? This is the type of look um
Speaker 1: that you know inspired. I'm gonna my wife to say
Speaker 1: Mark's just a hottie. A week ago, I think Dan
Speaker 1: missed that. Well, well, that's not the quote I got
Speaker 1: last time. It's that it's bete. Yeah, that's the under
Speaker 1: being oversold a little bit. But but now you can
Speaker 1: see now. Uh, this is the Wednesday edition of the
Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast. This is hump Day. Yes, it
Speaker 1: is bringing that back. Huh. We just gotta get over
Speaker 1: the hump. It's actually true for for our football season
Speaker 1: with this is almost like the Wednesday section of the
Speaker 1: season that we're heading into now. Yeah, if the season
Speaker 1: was broken down like a week right at the hump week, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're entering week seven and I feel like the hump
Speaker 1: is like week seven to about eleven or twelve maybe yeah,
Speaker 1: before we get to Thursday, which is an underrated day,
Speaker 1: like getting past Halloween. You know, once you get that's
Speaker 1: a nice little sign. Past thanksgivings a nice one as well.
Speaker 1: I I say, by the time we get past Christmas Day,
Speaker 1: for me, that feels like we've made some progress. Valentine's
Speaker 1: Day it's big too. Valentine's Day is really enjoyable. Flight
Speaker 1: home from super Bowl a lot take get to UH today,
Speaker 1: a new segment that we call h Fatal Flaw or
Speaker 1: in for the Long Haul. Nicely done, West, Thank you. Also,
Speaker 1: we will preview Thursday night football Broncos Gardenals. We will
Speaker 1: also hit some news and UH Erica. We had our
Speaker 1: UM Tuesday Twitter Show yesterday. Colleen Wolf was involved that
Speaker 1: she is every week. What's so funny? Why you're laughing?
Speaker 1: I'm not excited about TNF this week must UM and UM.
Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf every Tuesday is on the Twitter Show. She
Speaker 1: came on UM this week and talked a little bit
Speaker 1: about her travel, UH kind of observations and violations. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna kind of include it in today's show. So
Speaker 1: just let anybody that's not watching the Twitter Show. First
Speaker 1: of all, what's up what's your problem. Yeah, you have
Speaker 1: one obviously and number two. Uh, this is what you're missing.
Speaker 1: So fun. Let's start though with some news. All right,
Speaker 1: little update on the Steelers situation with Levan Bell. Uh,
Speaker 1: we still don't have any real update. Judy Batista says
Speaker 1: the team's not expecting the veteran running back to report
Speaker 1: to the facility this week. Of course, it was reported
Speaker 1: by ESPN and le Bell even spoke on it um
Speaker 1: that reporting during the week seven bye week and then
Speaker 1: maybe playing in Week eight and then putting this all
Speaker 1: behind them as a team. But uh, they are in
Speaker 1: there bye week. Still know Levy on Bell, and you
Speaker 1: have to wonder if he's coming back. He's a vege.
Speaker 1: He has to come back because if he doesn't come back.
Speaker 1: But I believe what week ten, his contract tolls for
Speaker 1: another year or the Steelers have more control over him.
Speaker 1: So he's gonna report at some point, but it's not
Speaker 1: gonna be coming up. It looks like in week eight West,
Speaker 1: if I'm a teammate of his, I'm getting increasingly agitated
Speaker 1: to the point of just being flat piste off. The
Speaker 1: guy stops returning your test text when the season opens,
Speaker 1: and then there's really there's reports that he's coming back.
Speaker 1: He doesn't even return your text about when he's coming back.
Speaker 1: He can't Dane to tell anybody on the team his plans,
Speaker 1: much less his teammates. And you want me to line
Speaker 1: up and block for him in a week. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: The original report was from Jeremy Fowler. It wasn't from
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter or any of the national guys it was.
Speaker 1: It was from someone who had talked to Levan Bell.
Speaker 1: And the original reports said the week seven to eight
Speaker 1: time frame, so he could easily show up next week.
Speaker 1: But Fowler, when you know, kind of asked about it
Speaker 1: this week, was just like, wow, this this is in
Speaker 1: the original plan that I reported in Less things change,
Speaker 1: so I don't think basically, and no one knows what's
Speaker 1: inside of Levan Bell's head right now. One thing I
Speaker 1: see creeping up on Twitter is this brush back of
Speaker 1: anyone who's critiquing Levan Bell for the reasons you just
Speaker 1: mentioned that. Oh listen, listen, sportswriter or fan. If you
Speaker 1: don't understand the concept of protecting your body for your
Speaker 1: career and what comes next after Pittsburgh, that that's fine.
Speaker 1: I get. I get what Lean Bell is doing. My
Speaker 1: thing is that football. Every time we talk about all
Speaker 1: these teams, it is a team sport, and the concept
Speaker 1: of team is lost in this situation. In terms of
Speaker 1: Levion Bell dealing with the rest of the roster, media
Speaker 1: almost always and fans almost will always side with the players.
Speaker 1: This case it's a little bit different. It seems like
Speaker 1: there's we saw the media and fans signed with Earl
Speaker 1: side with Erl Thomas, but with Levian Bell it's a
Speaker 1: little different. The one thing that west to your point,
Speaker 1: that kind of a little bit on my radar is
Speaker 1: that Leve Bell, when we do hear from him, is
Speaker 1: almost propping himself up as this pillar of integrity. He's
Speaker 1: not doing this for himself enough. I'm doing this for
Speaker 1: every Joe blow out there that gets taken advantage of
Speaker 1: by his team. I mean, while he's leaving what fifteen
Speaker 1: million dollars on the table, leaving his team out to dry,
Speaker 1: he's treating future running backs better than he treats his
Speaker 1: own teammates. There you go. Uh. Moving on another running
Speaker 1: back in the news, Devanta Freeman, who signed a huge
Speaker 1: deal UH with the um Falcons last year six years,
Speaker 1: forty three million and cannot stay on the field ever
Speaker 1: since he signed that deal. And it's a problematic and troubling. Uh.
Speaker 1: He's having groin surgery uh and will be placed on
Speaker 1: injured reserve. Rap Sheet reported this. Uh. Jay Glazer first
Speaker 1: reported the move to I R and then the Falcons
Speaker 1: confirmed that the hope is that Freeman will be a
Speaker 1: candidate to return a little I R boomerang action, But
Speaker 1: he's gonna miss eight weeks and the Falcons at two
Speaker 1: and four uh, mark they can't take any more losses.
Speaker 1: Let's be honest. I think Greg said it perfectly on
Speaker 1: our Twitter show where it's just not their year. I mean,
Speaker 1: you could not find more things to simply go wrong
Speaker 1: for Atlanta, a team that came in with Super Bowl hopes,
Speaker 1: and it was Tevin Coleman whose name trickled about in
Speaker 1: trade whispers just weeks ago. And when this kind of
Speaker 1: thing happens, whatever your plans were as the Falcons completely change. Now.
Speaker 1: What was a really nice one to punch backfield when
Speaker 1: they were both healthy rarely now is essentially leaning on
Speaker 1: Tevin Coleman and Edo Smith to carry the load. I
Speaker 1: just think the Falcons could become less and less watchable
Speaker 1: as the weeks go on. If these injuries can to
Speaker 1: need to mount and other injury. Freeman's barely given them anything, though,
Speaker 1: isn't that they paid him and made him the most?
Speaker 1: You know, this is a case for the Steelers against
Speaker 1: pain running backs. They made him, you know, the richest
Speaker 1: running back in the league. He did not play as
Speaker 1: well last year as he had played before. And they
Speaker 1: have Ato Smith who stepped in as a late round pick.
Speaker 1: And frankly, I don't think they've lost that much with
Speaker 1: Edo Smith. He's looked really good. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: tying this to Livan Bell, there's a reason why teams
Speaker 1: hesitate to pay running backs. Who knows. Maybe it's about
Speaker 1: the Freeman's breaking down at twenty six years old. These
Speaker 1: guys that they all wear and tear differently and leave
Speaker 1: Bell has had a lot of mileage, you can understand.
Speaker 1: And now Tevin Coleman has ten games to prove whether
Speaker 1: the Falkins should resign him or let him go. I
Speaker 1: kind of think Edo Smith will be the main guy.
Speaker 1: He he was at at the key moments last week,
Speaker 1: and I think at best Coleman's gonna end up splitting
Speaker 1: carries because Edo Smith maybe is a more complete player, Judge,
Speaker 1: all right, how do you like him being on Aaron
Speaker 1: Judges corner? A lot of a lot of all rises
Speaker 1: going on in Atlanta these days. Not a great judge.
Speaker 1: That that people people people love calling them Judge Edo,
Speaker 1: and so they're doing the all rise thing a little bit.
Speaker 1: This is how old we are, we recovering football players
Speaker 1: who were was that I mean named during the case
Speaker 1: or after? What are you talking about? It's his last name,
Speaker 1: first Smith. What am I saying he was named after? Judge?
Speaker 1: I'm just a bit along. It was Gregg is young,
Speaker 1: he wasn't trial. I'm holding up well. Greg was born
Speaker 1: age three. I was thinking of Judge Edo's last name.
Speaker 1: I'm an idiot. I remember the dancing Edo's on Jay
Speaker 1: Lano back in the day. Um, Judge, Judge, it took
Speaker 1: a lot of fire. It wasn't great, Judge, absolutely, I
Speaker 1: will tell you some real quick. I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: old up. I was in college when the decision came
Speaker 1: down on O J. And we were in a giant
Speaker 1: student center and the decision was announced on television. The
Speaker 1: place went nuts and the lights cut out that it
Speaker 1: went totally pitch black, dark and for like ten minutes
Speaker 1: utter chaos. I mean to you maybe not a hero. Um.
Speaker 1: It was a very popular decision among among many, whereas
Speaker 1: Gudgeeto I think was you know, finding some some justice
Speaker 1: that people think. But along the way he was not
Speaker 1: seen as like your group of friends. Yes, but in
Speaker 1: other circles, I think Gudgeedo was seen as a as
Speaker 1: a guy who was color blind and uh decided by
Speaker 1: a jury though, but he was just you know, a
Speaker 1: good guy. He leaned it the right way. Greg Greg's
Speaker 1: og analysis gone a little like Greg's like a kid
Speaker 1: that has to do a book report but didn't really
Speaker 1: read the book and just got away. Uh. Alright, Moving
Speaker 1: on more injury news. Josh Josh Allen for the Bills,
Speaker 1: the rookie. He's he's been putting a tough spot this
Speaker 1: year and and now he's injured. He heard his uh elbow,
Speaker 1: He's sprained his uc L, which if you are a
Speaker 1: baseball fan, for instance, you know that is sometimes a
Speaker 1: precursor to the dreaded Tommy John surgery, which is a
Speaker 1: ligament replace saspen. Hopefully it doesn't end up going in
Speaker 1: that direction, but it's a serious enough injury for Alan,
Speaker 1: Uh that he's gonna miss this week um against the Colts,
Speaker 1: and multiple weeks it looks like so Alan is out
Speaker 1: and this is how bad things are for Nathan Peterman. Uh.
Speaker 1: The Bill signed Derek Anderson off the street last week
Speaker 1: and he's gonna start actually on Sunday, uh for the Bills.
Speaker 1: So uh. And if you needed any more, UM, reminder
Speaker 1: what a bad mistake they made again And not that A. J.
Speaker 1: McCarron was a stud, but instead of having another guy
Speaker 1: in the house that you know, trained with the team
Speaker 1: through the off season, in preseason and knows the playbook,
Speaker 1: instead you signed Derek uh Anderson at a cobwebs and
Speaker 1: now he's starting for you. So good luck with that. Buffalo, Dan,
Speaker 1: you're a baseball fam When you hear owner collateral ligament,
Speaker 1: what do you think I hear Tommy John surgery. You
Speaker 1: gotta miss a guy for a year. I mean that happened.
Speaker 1: Football's different and they're saying he doesn't need the tree.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're hoping that rest. They don't know, and that's
Speaker 1: what they always say about pictures. Maybe we can work
Speaker 1: through this with rest and rehab. And football is different.
Speaker 1: It's not the same throwing motions, so maybe it's not
Speaker 1: as debilitating. But if I'm a Bills fan, I'm kind
Speaker 1: of hoping I don't see Josh Allen again the rest
Speaker 1: of this year. Just let him rest if there's no
Speaker 1: reason too. This is such a worst case scenario. I mean,
Speaker 1: you get rid of Tyrod Taylor's just they have the
Speaker 1: number three defense in the NFL according to Football Outsiders,
Speaker 1: and they're just kind of waste everyone's time for the
Speaker 1: rest of the Well. They talked on Sean McDermott having
Speaker 1: to start Derrick Anderson to not lose the locker room
Speaker 1: by starting Nathan Peter. Peterman's got the highest interception rate
Speaker 1: since at least I don't mind them getting rid of
Speaker 1: mccaren I hate this the whole offseason plan they had
Speaker 1: before they ever got McCarn ray Anderson's. Anderson is just
Speaker 1: as good, but they could have kept Tyrod Taylor. Moving
Speaker 1: on the Oakland Raiders. Speaking of teams dealing with a
Speaker 1: lot of turmoil right now, uh they have, Uh they're
Speaker 1: looking to trade Amari Cooper and what are they looking for,
Speaker 1: according to rap Sheet, a first round pick for the
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Let's start there a couple of things with
Speaker 1: the Raiders, but West, we'll start with Cooper, who has
Speaker 1: had another kind of enigmatic, enigmatic season this year. Is
Speaker 1: he worth a first round pick? Well, let me put
Speaker 1: it this way. I tweeted that out as soon as
Speaker 1: rap Sheet put it on the aftermath the other day,
Speaker 1: and the responses were all like a competition to see
Speaker 1: who could have the best dying laughing gift, and um,
Speaker 1: nobody thinks he's worth the first round pick. This is
Speaker 1: a guy who came into the league had two one
Speaker 1: thousand yards seasons. Daniel Jeremiah was saying his rookie year,
Speaker 1: I like this guy better than Odell Beckham. He's gonna
Speaker 1: have a better career than Odell Beckham, and obviously that's
Speaker 1: not going to happen. I think the question for me.
Speaker 1: He has obvious talent, he could be a number one receiver.
Speaker 1: I think there's got to be something more to it.
Speaker 1: How much is he in love with football? How you know? Well,
Speaker 1: that's the report. Mike Lombardi said that he's heard from
Speaker 1: in side the organization that they don't they're not convinced
Speaker 1: that Amari Cooper is passionate about the game to the
Speaker 1: level of trading the first round pick. Give me a break.
Speaker 1: I think that happens quite often. But everybody like you,
Speaker 1: you loved him a couple of years ago. The reason
Speaker 1: the first round pick is ridiculous because he's already near
Speaker 1: the end of his rookie contract. But if you had
Speaker 1: said that two years ago, people would have said, of course,
Speaker 1: you know, give up. But how many players? How many
Speaker 1: players do you actually find traded for a first round
Speaker 1: pick at all? It's it's increasingly rare that that's the case.
Speaker 1: It's the superstars and that's it. And this guy is
Speaker 1: not a super He's on the fifth year option next year,
Speaker 1: so it'll be he is. And if you do remember
Speaker 1: back to uh, Gruden's first public appearance after his introductory
Speaker 1: press conference at the Combine, he was talking up Cooper
Speaker 1: as a guy that could be a centerpiece of the offense.
Speaker 1: I believe that Gruden meant that at the time, and
Speaker 1: now after he got a close look at him and
Speaker 1: how the season has played out, he must not feel
Speaker 1: the same way about him anymore. Uh. Moving on? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: more Gruden on the Raiders. He had a press conference.
Speaker 1: The Raiders are on their bye week, so they won't
Speaker 1: lose and That's good because John Gruden seems to be
Speaker 1: fraying a little bit UH as the season takes a
Speaker 1: toll and it's been a very difficult season. Here's what
Speaker 1: Gruden had to say when asked, if you know the
Speaker 1: team is potentially tanking UH and essentially giving up on
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen to build for a brighter tomorrow. I'll say this,
Speaker 1: We're not taking anything. You know. I hear the hatred out.
Speaker 1: There are some of the rumors that we're taking it
Speaker 1: to get a first round pick or a higher pick. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, we're not getting up at four o'clock in
Speaker 1: the morning to tank. It Ain't nobody tanking it. And
Speaker 1: he was also asked on any decisions that he regrets.
Speaker 1: I got a list of things I regret. You know,
Speaker 1: I got a list of things. I'm sure you do too,
Speaker 1: unless you're perfect. I mean, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: think any of us are perfect. We're trying, We're working hard. Um.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna never throw the ball in first and
Speaker 1: goal again. You know all my friends in the league
Speaker 1: do it. Referring to the first and goal Derek Carr
Speaker 1: interception a couple of weeks ago, when again, you had
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch in the back field just stackle like eleven
Speaker 1: in the box. Now against the Raiders, he sounds super
Speaker 1: frustrated and a little bit um defeated, to be quite honest,
Speaker 1: it's the opposite of what anyone expected when he had
Speaker 1: that opening introductory press conference with like three hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty people. They're an NFL dot Com did like a
Speaker 1: two thousand word summary of it. It was like, we
Speaker 1: get grood In back in our lives. This is so
Speaker 1: exciting and right now on the field and off the field,
Speaker 1: I don't think any team is operating in a more
Speaker 1: ugly fashion than Oaklands. I mean they can't even contain
Speaker 1: their own desires to trade a player and then have
Speaker 1: in chatter coming from other areas of in house that
Speaker 1: the player doesn't want to play football anymore. Well done,
Speaker 1: But on some level of the NFL network and us,
Speaker 1: we're celebrating it if if nothing else, because he would
Speaker 1: be interesting. None of us thought they'd be good. And
Speaker 1: we're talking about them right now. We're not talking about
Speaker 1: the one in five Cardinals. No. I was just gonna say,
Speaker 1: he's his contract, his history, and the way the media
Speaker 1: covers him says he's an important figure, but the Raiders
Speaker 1: are irrelevant right now and it's partially because of their
Speaker 1: head coach. Let's move on. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have
Speaker 1: made a move on their coaching staff. Mike Smith, the
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, fired on Monday. The team has made the
Speaker 1: decision to turn to linebackers coach Mark Duffer, so he
Speaker 1: takes over as the interim UH. Smith joined the Bucks
Speaker 1: in two thousand sixteen, when UH Dark Cutter took over
Speaker 1: as the head coach. But the Bucks have given up
Speaker 1: twenty count them, twenty four yard gains. That's the most
Speaker 1: in the NFL UH since Smith joined, and things have
Speaker 1: not gotten any better this season. After the Falcons lit
Speaker 1: up Tampa Bay on Sunday, the decision was made to
Speaker 1: move on, so UM Dark Cutter. I don't know how
Speaker 1: many more guys he could fire or reassign because they're
Speaker 1: gonna come for him next. Mark Duffner is kind of interesting.
Speaker 1: I remember him back. This is going back eighteen to
Speaker 1: twenty years. He was mentioned is a likely Bengals head
Speaker 1: coach during one of those Dick Lebo or Bruce Coslit firings.
Speaker 1: This guy was seen as a young, up and coming
Speaker 1: defensive mind. Also because the Bengals were cheap back then
Speaker 1: and just wanted to promote in house. But but he
Speaker 1: was seen as that kind of mind back in the day. It's, uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's tough to see how Mike Smith not that
Speaker 1: we have like a personal relationship with just having having
Speaker 1: watched that in Hard Knocks, like you just feel you
Speaker 1: do a feel for him that that's how he went
Speaker 1: out because it was as ugly and probably depressing as
Speaker 1: it possibly could have been. And they and Dirk Cutter,
Speaker 1: you get the feeling pushed ownership or whoever wanted to
Speaker 1: fire him, give him one more week. Let's give him
Speaker 1: the bye week to figure things out. And then they
Speaker 1: come out and they're just as bad, if not worse
Speaker 1: than they were. I find it. It was months ago
Speaker 1: that we were excited about the additions the Bucks had
Speaker 1: made on defense, and they're on pace to give up
Speaker 1: the most points in NFL history. So part of it
Speaker 1: is got to be scheme. And I think that Mike
Speaker 1: Smith ran some of the most dull and equated defenses around.
Speaker 1: And while we look at these offensive play calls and
Speaker 1: say how they're changing the game, we're waiting for a
Speaker 1: defensive coach to do the same thing, and it's not
Speaker 1: been happening in Tampa. Uh, you said, we don't know him.
Speaker 1: In the spirit of journalistic integrity, Greg Mike Smith is
Speaker 1: my uncle. I actually purchased him the tavas that he
Speaker 1: wore on hard knocks a few years ago. Unky Mike
Speaker 1: moving on. Paul Allen is dead. The Seattle Seahawks owner
Speaker 1: UH passes away at the age of sixty five complications
Speaker 1: from non Hodgkins lymphoma, the family announced in a statement
Speaker 1: on Monday. Paul Allen a titan in the world of
Speaker 1: tech UH and philanthropy. Philanthropy, but uh he is known
Speaker 1: in the sports world as the guy that kind of
Speaker 1: saved Seattle. UH kept pro sports in Seattle. UH kept
Speaker 1: the Seahawks in Seattle and turned them into one of
Speaker 1: the best kind of home field UH and and and
Speaker 1: one of the more active and proud NFL cities. Also
Speaker 1: owned the Trailblazers in Portland. UH. He had been battling
Speaker 1: UH not Hutchin's lymphoma for decades, first diagnosed in the
Speaker 1: early eighties, came back in two thousand nine. He thought
Speaker 1: he was in the clear came back again and it
Speaker 1: got him so very sad. Uh. Paul Allen passed away
Speaker 1: at the age of sixty five. He didn't have any children,
Speaker 1: was not married, and um, I wonder what that means
Speaker 1: for the Seahawks going forward. But Alan will be missed.
Speaker 1: He was one of the one of the best owners,
Speaker 1: I believe. I think the best owners in sports understand
Speaker 1: that only professional sports franchise that bears a city's name
Speaker 1: means that it's also a public trust and a higher
Speaker 1: calling and the responsibility is greater than just profit motive.
Speaker 1: And I think that was Paul Allen's approach towards owning
Speaker 1: sports teams. You saw, you know, it's it's rare that
Speaker 1: an NFL owner, you know, that's like a very tiny
Speaker 1: part of what his legacy or his life was. You
Speaker 1: know that this was just something he did. But you
Speaker 1: did see some of the innovative thinking go on that
Speaker 1: Edie brought to tech and and the rest of his
Speaker 1: business life with with the Seahawks, with the way they
Speaker 1: built that stadium, with the way that who he hired,
Speaker 1: with the management, with the facility that they have on
Speaker 1: the water there, like everything about it was like very
Speaker 1: intelligent and embraced kind of different thinking. And you can
Speaker 1: even see that with their their head coach right now,
Speaker 1: who we had a very close relationship with. I think
Speaker 1: it's easy to forget when we were growing up West
Speaker 1: long before Dan and Greg were adults. But the Seahawks
Speaker 1: were that ever lasting seven and nine, eight and eight,
Speaker 1: nine and seven team that could never get over the hump.
Speaker 1: They were in the a f C West for years.
Speaker 1: They were like the current Dolphins, they really were. And
Speaker 1: it's when he got there it immediately changed. Yeah. They
Speaker 1: went to three Super Bowls in Allen's time, with the
Speaker 1: team winning once, of course, and UH and Roger goodell Um,
Speaker 1: in his statement that he released after the death became public,
Speaker 1: UH cited that he was one of the more trusted
Speaker 1: owners in in the entire league and also was a
Speaker 1: part of the safety initiatives and UH looking striving for
Speaker 1: ways to make the game safer with technology. So Paul
Speaker 1: Allen will be missed that at the age of sixty five.
Speaker 1: Moving on, Greg Um finally in the news here a
Speaker 1: bad job by on the throne of sleeves. UH. Patriots
Speaker 1: fan um Tyreek Hill scores a touchdown late in that
Speaker 1: classic Sunday night football game, and uh he gets to
Speaker 1: a little like fan enclave of area and he's getting
Speaker 1: a bunch of birds middle fingers in his face. Somebody
Speaker 1: throws a beer on him, probably when of Erica's friends.
Speaker 1: Let's be honest and um and Duss's Tyreek Hill with
Speaker 1: the beer. That fan was identified and banned from Chela
Speaker 1: Stadion and arrested. So he got banged. But that's a
Speaker 1: good job by the throne of thrown a sleeves, you know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they did anything too. That Yankees
Speaker 1: fan who you know through beer at players just week,
Speaker 1: was that was different where they banned for life or
Speaker 1: that was a fan that was fan on fan violence.
Speaker 1: Now he he hit Craig Kimball, the the Red Sox
Speaker 1: closer through beer on him. But that's a red sock.
Speaker 1: That's fun. Yeah, that's that's not the same thing, uh man.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, the Patriots handled it the way you
Speaker 1: would want them. But I find it weird more like,
Speaker 1: and it's fun to to single out the Patriots, but
Speaker 1: the whole move, like if you watch because I did
Speaker 1: watch it and slowed down just to see how it
Speaker 1: all played out. When Tyrok hell gets to this group
Speaker 1: of people who obviously are probably feeling pretty good that
Speaker 1: at that point in the night, they've probably been drinking
Speaker 1: for five or six hours. Um, everyone with the with
Speaker 1: the middle fingers and the yelling f you and then
Speaker 1: the beer desks, like what are we doing here? What
Speaker 1: are you so? What are you so angry about? Enjoy
Speaker 1: the game? You have a front road seat for this
Speaker 1: amazing shootout, Like historically they don't have a lot to
Speaker 1: be angry. But but I don't think New England invented
Speaker 1: the poor beer on player move. I mean no, I
Speaker 1: just said, like I'm just talking in general that time
Speaker 1: of that it was it was a lathered up hate,
Speaker 1: hateful little section of the fan base. Have fun with
Speaker 1: the idea that he just scored the touchdown and you
Speaker 1: can say, you know, boom or whatever, but like you're
Speaker 1: treating him like he just like kidnapped your mother. It's
Speaker 1: I feel like the biddle finger is more offensive in
Speaker 1: some places probably than others, or more just part of
Speaker 1: your life, you know in Boston and New England's just
Speaker 1: kind of like, oh, hey, how you doing today. It's
Speaker 1: just like the fingers are always out posting knows what
Speaker 1: I'm saying it's so true. I'm not even joking. That
Speaker 1: was the most offensive arst defensive offensive behavior in the
Speaker 1: back of the ensuit. Since Vontes perfect casually jogged up
Speaker 1: to a cameraman and just threw him in his camera
Speaker 1: over for no reason, is that still lead? Can we
Speaker 1: just can we a wrestling villain at this want? I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe I should do it since I'm suggesting it, but
Speaker 1: West feels like the guy. Maybe just do like a
Speaker 1: an opinion, like an op ed. We never have that
Speaker 1: on NFL dot com going through Vontes perfets life, what
Speaker 1: he did last week and asking the NFL to get
Speaker 1: rid of them. People would listen to Chris Wesley. I
Speaker 1: feel it can have like a long article three times
Speaker 1: on our very site. Ain't gone on this podcast and
Speaker 1: have five minutes soliloquies on how you've been on the
Speaker 1: speed League and his head coach is the biggest enabler
Speaker 1: in the NFL every single time. But what if we, yeah,
Speaker 1: what if we do the long form with like the
Speaker 1: really tasteful professional pictures and the poll quotes and you
Speaker 1: talk to people all around the league and it's you know,
Speaker 1: hashtag like what what sounds like a lot of work.
Speaker 1: Help me out here, you know, like eject perfect or
Speaker 1: something like that. I think we could do it, or
Speaker 1: you think West can do it? You can basically given
Speaker 1: the project he was assigning me, some research project earlier
Speaker 1: this week. There's an alternative to that. How about a
Speaker 1: good football player just stops trying to intentionally injure his opponents.
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Speaker 1: Here we go Fatal Flaw or In for the Long Haul,
Speaker 1: our segment where we break down teams that are kind
Speaker 1: of in the mix contenders, playoff hopeful favorites in the
Speaker 1: league and issues that they're dealing with right now uh
Speaker 1: here during the season's hump day period, and whether or
Speaker 1: not these issues are going to ultimately undermine them and
Speaker 1: destroy their title chances, or they can be solved or
Speaker 1: at least patched. Over put it that way. So I
Speaker 1: got a bunch of teams here, because, like we've been
Speaker 1: talking about, a lot of teams are in the mix
Speaker 1: this year. It's a good season. It's been a good
Speaker 1: NFL season so far compared to last year. Yes, less
Speaker 1: off the field controversy, less Donald Trump, less debilitating injuries
Speaker 1: to stars, games, great games in primetime. I always, I
Speaker 1: always hesitate because you know, I love football and I
Speaker 1: work for the NFL. C You're afraid of sounding like
Speaker 1: too much of a homer. But after another classic primetime game,
Speaker 1: after we got my Home's Brady one night and then
Speaker 1: a great Aaron Rodgers the next day, I'm thinking like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is why people love the NFL, some great games.
Speaker 1: That was an excellent night. That was one of the
Speaker 1: highest rated Thursday night affairs. And it's been a good
Speaker 1: year history like that. That was nice. Baker Mayfield Star
Speaker 1: is born to greatest reality show on television, which is
Speaker 1: why it always gets the best ratings. Uh, these sound
Speaker 1: like potential slogans that we could work in down the
Speaker 1: line for the NFL fan tested because I have not that.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a kind of copywritten by the NBA.
Speaker 1: But we could see if that maybe is lapsed. I
Speaker 1: have not heard back from UH Roger Goodell on any
Speaker 1: of my pitches from a couple of weeks back, probably
Speaker 1: intimidated by what you delivered. It has been lying low
Speaker 1: this year a little bit, a little bit, uh And
Speaker 1: that's not a bad thing either. Just focus on the game,
Speaker 1: let's have fun, and let's now focus on these teams.
Speaker 1: Starting with alright, fatal flaw or in for the long haul.
Speaker 1: The Houston Texans started owing three now three and three
Speaker 1: tied to top the AFC South Oh put that tricky
Speaker 1: situation on the key spots of the offensive line, the tackles.
Speaker 1: Fatal flaw long haul. This is a fatal flaw. No
Speaker 1: matter who they put at left tackle, he is getting
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson getting treated by a pinata. Julian Davenport gets
Speaker 1: benched for having like five penalties in a game. The
Speaker 1: next week, Martinez ranging comes in and gets like turned
Speaker 1: into a turnstyle. Then they turned back to Julian's Davenports
Speaker 1: and Watson gets killed all game by the Bills. This
Speaker 1: is a problem, and the Texans might rise to the
Speaker 1: surface in that division, doesn't matter. They'll get beat in
Speaker 1: the first round the playoffs by a real team, right,
Speaker 1: So when we call it a fatal flaw, part of
Speaker 1: the it's like, yes, they could sneak into the playoffs
Speaker 1: or finished with a nine and seven record, but ultimately
Speaker 1: fatal means they're they're no contender on any level because
Speaker 1: of this. I agree with you, they are a fraud.
Speaker 1: Even if they make the playoffs, somebody will undress them
Speaker 1: in the first dry, and I don't think they will.
Speaker 1: I don't think they will make the playoffs because of this,
Speaker 1: and I this is the one I maybe feel more
Speaker 1: strong than any on the list that this is a
Speaker 1: fatal flaw. Uh. You know some people that know a
Speaker 1: lot more about offensive line play. Brian Baldinger was tweeting
Speaker 1: about this yesterday. Seth Payne, who has followed the team
Speaker 1: for a long time, and they were basically disgusted by
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien and this should come back to Bill O'Brian.
Speaker 1: It made me think about it by his total inability
Speaker 1: not only to fix this problem, but it's kind of
Speaker 1: like accept some of the mental errors and effort errors
Speaker 1: and the same things year after years. So this is
Speaker 1: a coaching problem that they that they could not be
Speaker 1: like almost offended by as former lineman that that it's
Speaker 1: been his problem. And that's one big difference between Bill
Speaker 1: O'Brien and Bill Belichick, and he hasn't been able to solve.
Speaker 1: Three teams in this division are getting destroyed, but quarterbacks
Speaker 1: getting killed by their offensive lines. All right, let's stay
Speaker 1: in the a f C South, the Jacksonville Jaguars quarterback
Speaker 1: position fatal flaw or long haul. So yeah, you're I
Speaker 1: guess it would be fatal if we're saying, like, win
Speaker 1: a championship, you know it's a flaw. It wasn't last year.
Speaker 1: It was in the end. In the end, I think
Speaker 1: they were going to get beat by an offense that
Speaker 1: could score points reliably. And this year their defense is
Speaker 1: even less. Well, I guess my point is ten point
Speaker 1: lead in the fourth quarter of the title game. They
Speaker 1: almost pulled off what would have been deemed impossible beforehand
Speaker 1: against the page. Question is whether jack if if Blake
Speaker 1: Bortles can get hot, because they don't really have a
Speaker 1: backup plan here. As we talked about during the summer,
Speaker 1: we know he can get hot. I think the question
Speaker 1: is can he get hot for like three or four
Speaker 1: games at a time. I don't trust that right. Can
Speaker 1: he do a Flacco or an Eli Manning? And I
Speaker 1: think that's unlikely in in today's climate. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's a flaw that can prevent them from winning this division.
Speaker 1: I just there that's good enough to even pick up
Speaker 1: the slack this year, the last couple of weeks. I
Speaker 1: also think the rest of their offense, what we saw
Speaker 1: in January, they were all humming and they that the
Speaker 1: play calling, everything was maximized. The rest of their offense
Speaker 1: is not what it was last year at that time.
Speaker 1: Why does it seem so hard? I know this is
Speaker 1: a little off topic. Why does it seem so hard
Speaker 1: for great defenses to follow it up with another great year?
Speaker 1: I just feel like a lot of time these these
Speaker 1: these come back to earth, even if the personnel is
Speaker 1: the aim or even technically better. Well, I think health
Speaker 1: is a big reason. And this doesn't seem that important,
Speaker 1: but d J. Hayden, their slot corner was out and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys slot receiver Cool Beasley picked on the Jaguars
Speaker 1: the entire game. Like health is a factor important, but
Speaker 1: also when the quarter when is the buy in for
Speaker 1: the for the quarterback still the same? That's what what
Speaker 1: you said, Dan just kind of observationally has been is
Speaker 1: one of the analytical sort of bedrocks of a site
Speaker 1: like football Outsiders, that defense is not as predictable year
Speaker 1: after year. You can't keep it and that's why it's
Speaker 1: a lot of people believe it's just smarter to build
Speaker 1: around offense because that's a lot more predictable. That's true
Speaker 1: the Cowboys wide receiver groups. Speaking of Cole Beasley, he
Speaker 1: broke out, but in general, it's been very quiet season.
Speaker 1: Fatal flaw or in for the long haul. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go in for the long haul because I think if
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys don't get it done this year, it's
Speaker 1: not because of their wide receivers. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: that's certainly a weakness, but I think it's one that
Speaker 1: they can overcome. If the offensive line plays like it
Speaker 1: did the last few weeks and the defense plays like
Speaker 1: it did the last few weeks. That's one position that
Speaker 1: I think you can survive having a low level. I
Speaker 1: do think there was some hubris, though on the part
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys organization to do as little as they
Speaker 1: did at that position in and offer in a league
Speaker 1: where the offense is changing so much that they roll
Speaker 1: into this September with what they have. It was an
Speaker 1: immediate problem and it's still a problem. I think it's
Speaker 1: a fatal flaw. I think the rest of this roster
Speaker 1: could be sort of NFC Championship game caliber if everything
Speaker 1: goes well, but you cannot keep up with the Rams,
Speaker 1: the Saints, and even the Vikings with this wide receiver corps.
Speaker 1: Here's my thing, though, if they had a better quarterback,
Speaker 1: like a really high level one, and or high level
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, I think you can make up for those
Speaker 1: wide receivers. They just might not have that. I think
Speaker 1: this team could win nine or ten games, but they're
Speaker 1: not a title contender, and that's I think a big
Speaker 1: part of that is the lack of explosiveness in their
Speaker 1: passing games. So I will also say fatal flaw. Movie
Speaker 1: on Oh the Kansas City Cheese. Everybody loves the quarterback,
Speaker 1: showtime homes stopping. Now enough with that, but fatal flaw.
Speaker 1: We're in for the long haul. Chief secondary, it's a flaw.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's fatal because I think they can
Speaker 1: score with anyone. They can get into a shootout with
Speaker 1: any team and come out on top. The FC is
Speaker 1: not that strong. If they are one of the worst
Speaker 1: defenses in the league, and they are, this could be
Speaker 1: the year that one of the worst defenses in the
Speaker 1: league is attached to a Super Bowl winner. I think
Speaker 1: they can when they're offense the way they can do anything.
Speaker 1: Patriots have done it for a decade, by the way,
Speaker 1: a pretty mediocre defense and in some really bad ones
Speaker 1: that they made it to a Super Bowl with two
Speaker 1: thousand eleven the other night. The fact that the Patriots
Speaker 1: defense I thought played about as well as it could
Speaker 1: play in the first half of that game, and then
Speaker 1: you look up at the end and the Chiefs still
Speaker 1: have forty points on the board. It's like, even when
Speaker 1: I thought that the Patriots defense did a fairly good
Speaker 1: job in that game, and they still give up forty
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. Um, Greg's trying to punch in its very
Speaker 1: masking it. How about the Washington Redskins West outside the
Speaker 1: numbers fatal flaw. This offense can't do anything outside the numbers.
Speaker 1: They can't go down the field, they don't go to
Speaker 1: the sidelines, and you can't keep up. I just know
Speaker 1: they can only play one style of football. They are
Speaker 1: limited by their quarterback. I can't disagree. Do they have
Speaker 1: the weapons on the outside that could make it happen
Speaker 1: with a better quarterback? They don't yet to well to
Speaker 1: win a title. You're right, it's a fatal flaw. If
Speaker 1: I'm Jay Gruden, though, I'm thinking I wanna keep my job.
Speaker 1: I want to make the playoffs, and I think they
Speaker 1: could do that with this kind of close to the
Speaker 1: Vest limited. Often. It's a very interesting matchup this week
Speaker 1: when they play the Cowboys, because those two teams are
Speaker 1: very similar. It feels like there's only room for one.
Speaker 1: You know, It's like it's like there's sometimes actors are
Speaker 1: on the same corner. There's only room for one. There's
Speaker 1: only room for one of these, Like close to the Vest.
Speaker 1: We want to run the ball, we're not. We can
Speaker 1: only play from a head team from the NFC East
Speaker 1: to make it into Chris Evans Chris Pines right exactly.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna find out this week who the Chris
Speaker 1: Evans sorry, Pine Pine takes eat. There's this quote about
Speaker 1: sick Gilman one of the best offensive minds in history,
Speaker 1: and Bill Walsh was similar that he made the defense
Speaker 1: cover the entire fifty three by yard field. And you
Speaker 1: see the Chiefs do that. Now the Redskins don't. And
Speaker 1: it's the quarterback difference. All right, Mark, Now I want
Speaker 1: you to think about this analytically, not with your heart.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I have that ability, but I'll
Speaker 1: attempt to. You can do this. The Pittsburgh Steelers locker
Speaker 1: room fatal flaw, Long Hall, No, I don't think it is.
Speaker 1: And here's one thing fatal flaw. Here's one thing that
Speaker 1: I feel like. And and the Steelers are a long
Speaker 1: shot too at this point where the other teams only
Speaker 1: to win the super Bowl. But when you think about
Speaker 1: those uh the America's Game super Bowl, like recaps, those
Speaker 1: incredible hour long specials, this feels like the set up
Speaker 1: for one of the best ones of all time. You're
Speaker 1: running backs not there, your wide receiver's mouthy, everyone's going off.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a total drama filled locker room. But
Speaker 1: then they somehow find a way to get it done.
Speaker 1: This doesn't feel that different to me than Steelers locker
Speaker 1: rooms of old. So no, I don't they're gonna afterwards nightmare.
Speaker 1: The America's Game two thousand eighteen. Look, it's lef Bell,
Speaker 1: It's juju and I would not watch it, but I
Speaker 1: do think other pay will I couldn't get. Ben was like,
Speaker 1: then I'll just tire an assassin on Craigslist to take
Speaker 1: me out. A side point here, can can we really
Speaker 1: know to any degree of certainty what's going on in
Speaker 1: regardless someone that may come when I have to write
Speaker 1: the Thursday Night uh Broncos Cardinals recap that, Yeah, save it,
Speaker 1: save the money for your family at least low level kill.
Speaker 1: It's like, honey, I'm gonna be leaving the world forever.
Speaker 1: And also I'm gonna put us underwater financially because I'm
Speaker 1: gonna hire a really accomplished hit man. Yeah, but what
Speaker 1: that's a brutal recap. Well. Also, by the way, you
Speaker 1: have to get that job right. Well, you can't go
Speaker 1: halfway with that job. Very morbid conversation. I'm enjoying it though.
Speaker 1: The Minnesota Vikings ground attack at old line greg fatal flaw,
Speaker 1: long haul, long haul, because I think the strengths on
Speaker 1: their team can be strong enough to overcome that. When
Speaker 1: you have a quarterback in Cousins who's playing better under
Speaker 1: pressure than than he ever has before, and you have
Speaker 1: a defense that has the potential to be much better
Speaker 1: than they have. They need to be much better, but
Speaker 1: I think they can make up. Their running backs are fine,
Speaker 1: so it's really the line we're talking about, and I
Speaker 1: think they can make up for for that line. Well
Speaker 1: last week not a great opponent, But how about Dalvin
Speaker 1: Cook will come back eventually, and they do have a
Speaker 1: wild card. They drafted a guy named Brian O'Neil in
Speaker 1: the second round, and maybe he wasn't ready to start
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year, but he played last
Speaker 1: week and that's when they had their best rushing game
Speaker 1: of the year. So maybe Brian O'Neil works his way
Speaker 1: in there and helps stabilize. How about the Falcon's defense.
Speaker 1: It's a flaw for a month now and people aren't
Speaker 1: willing to accept it. But it's for these people that
Speaker 1: won't accept, like the only one that hasn't, except it's
Speaker 1: going to doom them. It's not. It's not the matter
Speaker 1: of it's not a matter of if. But win probably
Speaker 1: already have four losses. I always like when West says
Speaker 1: little bullet points set up for the pod that are
Speaker 1: really just attacks on Greg and then they go back
Speaker 1: and forth. I didn't know you were going to take
Speaker 1: about the Falcons. I'm looking at your list, I know,
Speaker 1: but there's like twenty names on you. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, their defense is lousy. It's I just
Speaker 1: you always think when you have like a quarterback playing
Speaker 1: at as well as he ever has, putting up thirty
Speaker 1: three points a game, that they're gonna have a chance
Speaker 1: to turn around a play here or there, and they
Speaker 1: they would be four and too, but they're not. Their
Speaker 1: defense is so bad that they make complaints about Steve
Speaker 1: Sarkisian seemed like a much more innocent time he's been five.
Speaker 1: That was like for the Falcons, it was, yeah, that
Speaker 1: was American beauty. When in the Oscar was the first
Speaker 1: half of the super boat. Don't get that, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: the American beauty was like this American Beauty would have
Speaker 1: never won the Oscar after nine eleven. That's an interesting take.
Speaker 1: Whyet like that much more innocent time like that all
Speaker 1: we had to care about with some shallow the state made,
Speaker 1: you know, whatever, I didn't crash with Crash should never
Speaker 1: have won that. That was not a good movie. This
Speaker 1: was just a flat out bad movie. Birdman one after
Speaker 1: nine eleven. Bird But that's what I'm saying. But can
Speaker 1: we table Gregg's assignment for us and you can instead
Speaker 1: write a dissertation essay about this American Beauty and eleven connection.
Speaker 1: I don't think this is an original thought. I guarantee
Speaker 1: somebody has written this column before. There's there's Google. There's
Speaker 1: no doubt that American Beauty has aged worse than just
Speaker 1: about any movie I saw in college that I thought
Speaker 1: was mind blowing. And then you watch it now and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, it's a lot of movies from five
Speaker 1: seven year period have aged horse in that it's in
Speaker 1: that garden state acting. But I might be I never
Speaker 1: thought it was some mind blowing special thing to see
Speaker 1: a garbage bag blowing in the wind. And by the way,
Speaker 1: this was before that. That movie started aging poorly American
Speaker 1: Beauty before Kevin Spacey was out as a creep long before. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's only kind of made it even more. Net
Speaker 1: Betting is pretty awesome and does a nice job. Give
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Speaker 1: What's his name? I forget what his name? Peter Gallagher's
Speaker 1: played by Gallagher? Who's the king baby? All right? Uh?
Speaker 1: Last one, we gotta we gotta move on here. How
Speaker 1: about since they are the defending champions the Eagles secondary,
Speaker 1: it's been problematic. I'm gonna defer to Greg on this
Speaker 1: one since they are his team. Well, I've yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: locking them up every week until proven other. Can I
Speaker 1: lock up on a Wednesday show? That would be a
Speaker 1: first not to spoil it here. So I don't think
Speaker 1: it's a fatal flaw. They they do need to improve.
Speaker 1: Roddy McCloud has been a huge loss for them. They
Speaker 1: do have a great, you know, a good cornerback in
Speaker 1: Ronald Darby. They need the rest of the group, certainly
Speaker 1: to play better Malcolm Jenkins. But I think if your
Speaker 1: front seven and is as dominant as they hope it
Speaker 1: can be, and it's getting there, then you can cover
Speaker 1: up for the secondary. Not a fatal flu Jalen Mills
Speaker 1: has been a whipping boy and among fans there and
Speaker 1: Sydney Jones, uh, they're a slot guy has a hamstring injury.
Speaker 1: So it'll be interested to see what happens next. Roswell
Speaker 1: Douglas not great. They've put they've invested picks at those
Speaker 1: positions and they haven't panned out. I have nothing to
Speaker 1: add your pointing to me, Oh, unless we do. We
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Speaker 1: that that read I am taking the advice, going with
Speaker 1: the Flame class. Thank you. And I know your high
Speaker 1: school girlfriend did not email you. That was before email. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not self not self referential, handwritten quill pen, No,
Speaker 1: not at all. It's like by candles. As I said
Speaker 1: at the top of the show, a little tease. If
Speaker 1: you have not been watching the Twitter Show and you've
Speaker 1: been saying, oh, we miss Colleen wol if we wish
Speaker 1: she was on the shows, like she's in the off
Speaker 1: season and last year, Well, she's real busy, but she
Speaker 1: is part of our Tuesday show. Here was our conversation
Speaker 1: our Skype combo with Connie on yesterday's Twitter show, which
Speaker 1: you could check out, by the way by hitting up
Speaker 1: the top of our respective Twitter profiles. Uh. Here was
Speaker 1: our cobo about travel violations from a woman that would know.
Speaker 1: It was really tough to narrow this down, and I
Speaker 1: do feel like I'm an authority on this right now.
Speaker 1: I'm flying three times a week. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: annoying things that happen in airports, so I really tried
Speaker 1: to mix this up. But number five, all right, the
Speaker 1: shade up on an early morning flight. Look, I'm an
Speaker 1: aisle person on planes, but that means I don't have
Speaker 1: access to the window. And these people who get on
Speaker 1: eight am flights and fly with the window open the
Speaker 1: whole time, that should not be allowed. You should not
Speaker 1: be allowed to have your shade up until after ten
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning. And I understand maybe on like
Speaker 1: takeoff and landing because you're excited, fine, but in the
Speaker 1: middle of the flight. No, that shade needs to be down.
Speaker 1: Spot on. I'm with you. Let's get over there. Oh,
Speaker 1: let's look. You know, when we're coming in and out
Speaker 1: of the city. We're adults. We've seen it right now.
Speaker 1: You know, Greg, you are a cynic. As we know
Speaker 1: from Twitter. It's like no on human experience. I love
Speaker 1: that one though. I love that one just because people
Speaker 1: aren't thinking about I. I like the I like looking
Speaker 1: out the window, touchdown and take up. But I understand
Speaker 1: early in the morning, yeah, I get it. Okay. For
Speaker 1: violations and this start start over, we didn't hear the
Speaker 1: beginning of that. Go ahead, okay. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: terminal moving violations, a lot of violations in the terminal, So,
Speaker 1: especially if you're in a crowded terminal, a lot of
Speaker 1: times you have mall walkers. You have families that are
Speaker 1: like four or five wide, and you can't get past them,
Speaker 1: and they're moving so slowly. Like you got to be
Speaker 1: aware of your surroundings. Also, there are people that just
Speaker 1: like abruptly stop in the middle of walking with no
Speaker 1: warning whatsoever, to just start texting on their phone. So
Speaker 1: there's a lot of obstacles you have to be aware
Speaker 1: of your surroundings. It's like a video game trying to
Speaker 1: get through the terminals. Like, all I'm asking is it
Speaker 1: is like know as if you're in a car pull over,
Speaker 1: if you're going to like, don't just stop in the
Speaker 1: middle describing human Many people trip over other people. It's
Speaker 1: insane that that's absolutely true. That's rude to stop in
Speaker 1: your tracks to use your phone. But the one about
Speaker 1: the families, that one's a little more dicey, Colleen, what
Speaker 1: do you what do you guess? Uh, let's say Mark's
Speaker 1: family for instance. He's he's got his wife with him
Speaker 1: and two young boys, and there were walking maybe not
Speaker 1: at warp speed because they're not. They're they're carrying some
Speaker 1: luggage and all that. What do you want? I understand that.
Speaker 1: And you know what, there is a pass for children
Speaker 1: because I get it. It's tough to wrangle children. This
Speaker 1: is more for the adults. This is more for the
Speaker 1: group groups of people who are all going on vacation
Speaker 1: together and everybody's just like taken in the sites, walking
Speaker 1: very slow, too slow. All right, what do we got
Speaker 1: for number three? Number three is um overly loud cell
Speaker 1: phone talkers on the plane. I need to hear your
Speaker 1: whole conversation. Nobody cares about your whole conversation. And it's
Speaker 1: also kind of rude and it's annoying, right, doesn't this
Speaker 1: happen to you guys? Yeah? Yeah, we've talked about a
Speaker 1: colleen before. We've had maybe three to five conversations on
Speaker 1: the phone, and it's always awkward. Why do you even
Speaker 1: have to talk on the phone anymore? Texting much better, exactly.
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that one. Number two. This might
Speaker 1: not be as big for other people, but it's big
Speaker 1: for me because it's happened to me multiple times already
Speaker 1: this year, people taking their trash and then putting it
Speaker 1: on my seat before I get to the seat, before
Speaker 1: I sit down. So this is like the early Borders
Speaker 1: who get there and then like have rappers and just
Speaker 1: like leave it on on my seat or in front
Speaker 1: of me, like it's I think that's super rude and
Speaker 1: that's one of the most disrespectful things you can do, Like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't need to take care of my own trash,
Speaker 1: you can, stranger. What is that about just saying that's legit?
Speaker 1: Maybe you need to upgrade your status a little bit
Speaker 1: and not be worried. You know, some of these people
Speaker 1: move up a class rank and you don't have to
Speaker 1: worry about that type of I mean, she's flying first,
Speaker 1: let's not be let's not play around here. Well, when
Speaker 1: you fly as much as I do, you do get
Speaker 1: good staff. But the number one biggest violation here something
Speaker 1: I've seen so many times, and it's the most disgusting
Speaker 1: thing in the entire world. Look, taking off your shoes
Speaker 1: is one thing on a flight, and I disagree with that,
Speaker 1: But when you go to the bathroom and just your
Speaker 1: socks on a plane, that is you should be thrown
Speaker 1: off the plane mid air. That is so disgusting. I
Speaker 1: can't even tell you how many people I've seen doing
Speaker 1: It's so gross. Oh great work by Colleen. How how
Speaker 1: we miss her? A lot of complaints? Yeah, she's she's
Speaker 1: and she's one to know. I mean the amount of
Speaker 1: travel that Colleen, I mean, it's a wild amount of
Speaker 1: travel blows one's mind. Are breaking news the NFL Network
Speaker 1: news room, Adam Gates has announced Ryan Tannehill is out
Speaker 1: this week and the shoulder injured. October continues. I love
Speaker 1: Rock October. Who do they play this? The Lions might
Speaker 1: need to lock that up. I think this story has
Speaker 1: been a little under the radar. Henry Hodgson, um vying
Speaker 1: for the NFL media insider status, has been posting some
Speaker 1: interesting tweets from some Dolphins sources that do make you
Speaker 1: wonder just about Ryan Tannehill's future this season and then
Speaker 1: larger with the Dolphin because of this injury. He's been
Speaker 1: retweeting some other interesting sources and weight posting or retweeting
Speaker 1: like he's got the sort he like the retweet where
Speaker 1: you comment on it, so it counts interesting. He is
Speaker 1: directing people to the stories he wants them to read.
Speaker 1: It does it does make you think a little bit
Speaker 1: about this was supposed to be the year you they
Speaker 1: decided on Ryan Tannehill, and you think that decision has
Speaker 1: been made. No, just that this injury may prevent it
Speaker 1: from ever happening. Make it for them. I mean, this
Speaker 1: could be pretty serious. It's just wait, Rock throws for
Speaker 1: twelve yards on Sunday against I don't think they're assuming
Speaker 1: that brock Oswilers then, but another home game that that
Speaker 1: justs well, we shall see. It's a hundred degrees. Matt
Speaker 1: Patricia coming off of by and part of the thing
Speaker 1: with town Hill is not just whatever Patricia has that
Speaker 1: by never we never experienced that is he literally a
Speaker 1: rocket scientist? Yeah. One of the things with Tad Hill,
Speaker 1: by the way, he's not just display but can you
Speaker 1: stay healthy? And he's hurt again this year, so that
Speaker 1: has to be factored into I'm sure the decision making. Finally,
Speaker 1: Thursday Night Preview, Week seven, it begins, Oh, Broncos at Cardinals.
Speaker 1: The Broncos are in a free fall. West bailed on him,
Speaker 1: which makes me happy. Bail fast enough. Uh So he's
Speaker 1: him for two locks and then got out and now
Speaker 1: they bam bam, thank you. They get the Cardinals professional
Speaker 1: are you know a mess there? One in five? Uh
Speaker 1: So this is a game that if you want to
Speaker 1: look at half half cup filled. Uh you got Josh
Speaker 1: Rosen and it's first prime time game and um von
Speaker 1: Miller trying to chase him down up Lindsay and Royce Freeman,
Speaker 1: who's looked who they've looked great? By the way, is
Speaker 1: he making the impact? That's pretty good? Break out give
Speaker 1: him sad. Bronco's doing a lot of talking this week.
Speaker 1: John always says we're fighting for our lives. He pretty
Speaker 1: much called out the team and von Miller says we're
Speaker 1: gonna go down. He does feel like bon Miller says
Speaker 1: we're gonna kick their ass. Yeah, it does feel like
Speaker 1: there's something at stake, even though I know this is
Speaker 1: not a hot, high octane game, but it does feel
Speaker 1: like if you lose to the Cardinals, who I think
Speaker 1: are the worst team in the NFL just according to
Speaker 1: the facts, like if you lose if the Broncos. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: if you look at the analytics, just the efficiency, they
Speaker 1: were very lucky to win the one game even that
Speaker 1: they won. I think they've been on balance the worst
Speaker 1: team in the NFL. If you lose to them. In
Speaker 1: the farm, people go to the farm. Sometimes they don't
Speaker 1: come back. No, sometimes you stay at the farm. You're
Speaker 1: with the doggies, by the way, building up expectations and
Speaker 1: pressure in this game. Also Steve Wilkes, the first year
Speaker 1: head coach of the Cardinals, here's what he had to say. Uh,
Speaker 1: I would say all our jobs interopredy include mine. If
Speaker 1: we don't win, I mean, Steve, you don't You're a
Speaker 1: first year coach on a rebuilding team. But often you
Speaker 1: don't need to put that out there. Because what you're
Speaker 1: doing is you're not necessarily um making ownership think that way,
Speaker 1: but you're making the fans think that way because and
Speaker 1: and then you just build more pressure. I thought that
Speaker 1: was a mistake to talk that way. You got you've
Speaker 1: got a bad team, Steve, you can get beat in
Speaker 1: this game, and it doesn't mean you should then be
Speaker 1: fired or should that should be even connected to your name.
Speaker 1: I thought that was a weird quote. Their defense is
Speaker 1: fighting hard, and I think they're playing better than the Broncos,
Speaker 1: much more Ballyhood defense. Right now, that's true. We could
Speaker 1: you could see that. You could see Chandler Jones and
Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson and have a spines making enough places in
Speaker 1: this game to win it on their own. And Josh
Speaker 1: Rosen is very capable of making a few big throws
Speaker 1: into into tight windows give Cardinals a win and give
Speaker 1: Jason's something to smile up. It's been a bad year,
Speaker 1: but they lost to the Bears fourteen sixteen. They lost
Speaker 1: to the Seahawks seventeen to twenty, and they beat the
Speaker 1: eighteen a team that nearly took out a bigger contender
Speaker 1: on Monday Night. So I don't think that they're awful
Speaker 1: but they have just a talent issue on offense for sure.
Speaker 1: Their offense is almost unwatchable. I have a theory on
Speaker 1: this Broncos defense. They were a top five run d
Speaker 1: last year. They gave up seventy seven yards per game
Speaker 1: on the ground through three weeks this year, and then
Speaker 1: case Keenum missed a wide open throat to to Mary's
Speaker 1: Thomas to win the game, and their defense said, We've
Speaker 1: got three or four games worth of of game film
Speaker 1: here that says case Keenum just can't make the throws
Speaker 1: that he needs to make for us to win. We
Speaker 1: wanted Kirk Cousins, We openly pined for him, and we
Speaker 1: got stuck with a guy who's not good enough to
Speaker 1: bring us back to the playoffs. And I think that's
Speaker 1: I think it was a natural letdown from that. Jets
Speaker 1: broke their spirit with that game. Did we bring up
Speaker 1: the John Elie called his own defense soft. Now we
Speaker 1: have huh, Well, it doesn't the shoe fit for the
Speaker 1: first defense in history to give up Rusher in back
Speaker 1: to back games. John, Hey, John, if your defense is
Speaker 1: soft and your offense is no good, what are you?
Speaker 1: You made a bad team? M Tweels. We'll be back
Speaker 1: uh late tomorrow night. Actually, the Sizzler and I will
Speaker 1: be uh handling the recap of this fine, fine Thursday
Speaker 1: night football game. Uh, and then we'll we'll review all
Speaker 1: of the week seven games that lie ahead on Sunday
Speaker 1: and Monday, so make sure you're tuned in for that.
Speaker 1: And that's it. Stan Hansons signing off for a quiet storm,
Speaker 1: the Mailman, the Old Boss. Then Ricky Hollywood behind the glass. Wow,
Speaker 1: what an adi, what an advere built? Thursday Night