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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast, which is they were still in London.
Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Jansas and I am joined in
Speaker 1: a room filled with Here was Mark Sesler, Chris Wesley
Speaker 1: and Greg Rosal. What is that boys? Hey? Dan, I
Speaker 1: feel like we're in a good groove right now. All
Speaker 1: the boys are together. Ain't no little ce ain't no
Speaker 1: big sea. Knock on wood, knock on wood, and uh,
Speaker 1: football season is in full swing. Good games, good bros,
Speaker 1: good bruise. The fact and that you overcame that cold
Speaker 1: that you had it was a bad one, that was
Speaker 1: a rough one. Um, it just says a lot about
Speaker 1: you West. Nice job by you also with your struggle
Speaker 1: that you overcame that was fine. This is more recent
Speaker 1: and it's what Yeah, what have you done for me lately?
Speaker 1: Dan is the one I would point to and just say,
Speaker 1: very impressive. It's a rough rough Uh, you know a
Speaker 1: few days for you it was bad. It was a
Speaker 1: bad week, but that's in the past. It was a
Speaker 1: good week in the NFL. Gregg Rose, how about the
Speaker 1: ending of these games? Guys? You know football is crazy
Speaker 1: just to play here and play there, a bunch of
Speaker 1: different teams gonna one today. You're reading off a script
Speaker 1: of a bad podract basically like of football podcast that
Speaker 1: was that was the open So you're subverting it. That's
Speaker 1: what you're doing. Take us through that thought process. You
Speaker 1: have to analyze it. And I'm just the artist you guys,
Speaker 1: But he's right, Greg's right, Um, and a crazy weeks
Speaker 1: a week seven Sunday in the NFL. Um you know,
Speaker 1: when you put together the rundown of the games, how
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about him in honors. Sometimes some weeks
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know what we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: first or second. There's not a lot of great games
Speaker 1: this week. You could have made the case for five
Speaker 1: or six games leading off, because we had a lot
Speaker 1: of great endings. Uh some heartbreak and some outrageous things
Speaker 1: going on with my favorite NFL player, which we'll get
Speaker 1: to a little bit. So you pick the Jets to
Speaker 1: be the first time we describe we lead off with
Speaker 1: Gang Green. Uh No, we will start today by digging
Speaker 1: into one team in the NFL had the greatest comeback
Speaker 1: in the history of their organization. Now granted the organization
Speaker 1: has only been around since, but still, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Let's start there, went Buck, he's looking, he is head,
Speaker 1: the football comes loose, scramble for the ball and it
Speaker 1: is recovered by Carolina and the game is over. He
Speaker 1: held it too long. Wentz held the ball too long,
Speaker 1: and as well as he has played but three quarters.
Speaker 1: In this last minute or so, he'd made several critical mistakes.
Speaker 1: Oh Meryl Reese of w I P Philly legend goes
Speaker 1: in on Carson Wentz and get to that in a
Speaker 1: bit on fourth down with the game hanging in the balance,
Speaker 1: West Horton sack, Carson Wentz forced the fumble, the turn over,
Speaker 1: the final piece, and a stunt seventeen comeback win for
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers on the road against the defending champion Eagle.
Speaker 1: Greg this is the type of win that can change
Speaker 1: the season four team. It could. If you had told
Speaker 1: me at thirty nine seconds left in the third quarter,
Speaker 1: when the Eagles finished off a seventeen play, nine nine
Speaker 1: yard drive up seventeen nothing that they could possibly lose
Speaker 1: that game, I wouldn't have believed it because that drive
Speaker 1: was very consistent with how the first three quarters of
Speaker 1: the game went, which is Philadelphia was moving the ball.
Speaker 1: These two teams were very similar. I kind of had
Speaker 1: a whole bit in my head about, oh, these two
Speaker 1: teams are similar styles, but the Eagles are just better
Speaker 1: at it, and that's got to really crush Ron Rivera.
Speaker 1: And then fifteen minutes later, three drives from the Panthers
Speaker 1: where they played hurry up. The Eagles couldn't move the
Speaker 1: ball in the fourth and Mary Reice put it well.
Speaker 1: Carson wentz At a rough quarter after what was one
Speaker 1: of the best three quarters I've seen from him in
Speaker 1: any game. So it's just one of those games. Oh,
Speaker 1: you stated on Thursday, we're gonna ride with the Eagles.
Speaker 1: Maybe you had visions of sugar Plums in your head,
Speaker 1: of some type of magical winning streak. Tough loss here
Speaker 1: for you, sugar Plums. It's tough, but we're gonna We're
Speaker 1: gonna ride that. We're gonna keep riding this train right
Speaker 1: to a ten and six record. Okay, yeah, you'll come
Speaker 1: in maybe third, second or third place in the in
Speaker 1: this place, aren't there seven weeks? We got the playoffs too.
Speaker 1: The drive chart of this game is fascinating for the Panthers. Punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown,
Speaker 1: end of game. Right, It was a game with very
Speaker 1: few possessions. It'd like to to do that after what
Speaker 1: they had. They couldn't run the ball really well in
Speaker 1: going to the hurry up basically just changed the game. Tough, tough,
Speaker 1: tough loss for the Eagles. And and I get we
Speaker 1: talked about it, Greg when you locked up to the
Speaker 1: Eagles that they just seem primed to go on a
Speaker 1: run and and maybe put some distance between themselves and
Speaker 1: the rest of the NFC East. And now I still
Speaker 1: like their chances. I think they're the best team in
Speaker 1: that that division. Even we'll get to the Redskins in
Speaker 1: a bit. But um, it makes you wonder again, only
Speaker 1: seventeen points. The offense has not been able to really
Speaker 1: click and get going this year. You wonder how long
Speaker 1: that's gonna take. And the Panthers, after um a tough
Speaker 1: loss last week, again, to me, they reaffirmed themselves West
Speaker 1: as a team that I think could beat anybody in
Speaker 1: the NFC, and that makes them one of the more
Speaker 1: dangerous teams in the league. Absolutely, I think the Panthers
Speaker 1: are They're right there as a playoff contender, and I
Speaker 1: expect them to be that way all year. I don't
Speaker 1: really know what the weaknesses on this team. We thought
Speaker 1: it was the offensive line, but as we've said several times,
Speaker 1: their offensive line coach is a wizard, so that's not
Speaker 1: a concern. The line didn't play great today for three quarters,
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't put I don't feel any different about
Speaker 1: either one of these teams going into it. I thought
Speaker 1: they were extremely even. I thought, you know the Panther
Speaker 1: the Eagles offense. Yeah, they they blew it in the
Speaker 1: four in the fourth quarter where Carson wentz into the
Speaker 1: balls almost seemed to slip out of his hand a
Speaker 1: few times, including on that final play where he pulled
Speaker 1: the ball down. The reason he held it too long
Speaker 1: as because Julius Peppers jumped right in front of him.
Speaker 1: And they only had five possessions before the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: and they had scored on three of them, and there
Speaker 1: was crazy wind and they had missed a field goal
Speaker 1: because of that. I give just credit to the Panthers
Speaker 1: stars Cam Newton, and I know you saw this play.
Speaker 1: Dan made an unbelievable throw on fourth and ten with
Speaker 1: the game on the line, where he had to jump
Speaker 1: and he's getting tackled after he evaded a sack. He
Speaker 1: doesn't make that play, they don't win. One quarterback in
Speaker 1: the league makes that throw, right. Luke kick Ley made
Speaker 1: a terrific diagnosis of a second down screen on the
Speaker 1: on the drive before that for Philadelphia, where if they
Speaker 1: pick up that first down the game is over. Basically,
Speaker 1: all their big players like Julius Peppers, who am I
Speaker 1: forgetting and then James Bradberry really caught up to a
Speaker 1: play where he was beat by Alsha and Jeffrey on
Speaker 1: third down that get got the ball back for Carolina.
Speaker 1: That again was maybe underthrown by Wentz. He just had
Speaker 1: a bad quarter into the wind. I'm not gonna go
Speaker 1: crazy Eagles to me, just the one difference from that.
Speaker 1: They had such an identity at this point in the
Speaker 1: year last season, and they're just riding with a bit
Speaker 1: of a different vibe right now. I mean, I loved
Speaker 1: watching their ground game last year, and you look at that,
Speaker 1: you look at the box score, and it's like there
Speaker 1: is no foundational lead back here. It's hard to run
Speaker 1: it back. Very few teams are able to do it.
Speaker 1: We'll see if the Eagles can get on track next week.
Speaker 1: One other note in this game, Eric Read and Malcolm Jenkins,
Speaker 1: that is, uh, some spicy beef. All connected to the um,
Speaker 1: the national anthem and the protests and and the Colin
Speaker 1: Kaepernick situation. But um Eric Reid, who now play safety
Speaker 1: for the Panthers, actually even though he's not a team captain,
Speaker 1: went to midfield before the game started to start with Jenkins,
Speaker 1: who he believes sold out the cause that Kaepernick started
Speaker 1: and co opted it for his own gains. I mean,
Speaker 1: some of this to me is a little esoteric and
Speaker 1: I need to dig into it more because I didn't
Speaker 1: realize this was such spicy beef. But these two guys
Speaker 1: they were joining throughout the game, and then after the game,
Speaker 1: Read didn't back down and spoke about it more so.
Speaker 1: A lot of heat there. Eric Reid also pulled off
Speaker 1: one of the better I'm gonna get some hits and
Speaker 1: moves I've ever seen in my life, which was was
Speaker 1: taking down Carson Wentz aggressively on a run pass option
Speaker 1: where Wentz did pass it off, but he could have
Speaker 1: gotten He could have said, well, I didn't know, he
Speaker 1: didn't have the ball, wasn't called. And then you know, understandably,
Speaker 1: zach Ertz gets upset about it, goes after Read and
Speaker 1: Read body slams him like it's WrestleMania. It was like
Speaker 1: he took he took down two in one play. You
Speaker 1: don't see that to it almost a killer pick too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he he ended up being in the middle of the
Speaker 1: action good and bad throughout the game. Let's move on
Speaker 1: spout the spot pick his all away yea, oh god,
Speaker 1: what's kilts one? What's kill sweve oh Rhett Mars fifty
Speaker 1: two yard attempt clanged off the upright, dropped into the
Speaker 1: end zone, the miss ceiling. The Redskins win over the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys in Land over the Redskins. Yes, the Redskins
Speaker 1: will reach the final week of October in first place
Speaker 1: at four and two. Greg Today was an old fashioned
Speaker 1: NFC East slopper knocker. You got you guys love the
Speaker 1: NFC East. I know back in the East nineties, Dan
Speaker 1: and Dan and Mark right, this is the football. This
Speaker 1: is the type of game that you would that like
Speaker 1: a lot of runs, dirty field, A couple major hits
Speaker 1: that made a big play in this game, including a
Speaker 1: fumble by Dak Prescott on the goal line that was
Speaker 1: picked up by by Washington. These two teams are so similar,
Speaker 1: and I think we said it going into the game,
Speaker 1: and they looked like mirror images of each other. But
Speaker 1: in this game, one of the big differences Adrian Peterson
Speaker 1: and the Washington running game was the far superior running game.
Speaker 1: I mean, he looks incredible. It's almost underrated. I think
Speaker 1: how amazing Adrian Peterson looks this year. I think he's
Speaker 1: one of the top five or is just as a
Speaker 1: pure runner, he's one of the five or six best
Speaker 1: runners in the league right now. I would say almost
Speaker 1: nobody that we know on the on the Human Race,
Speaker 1: Planet Slash experience had the Redskins winning the division at
Speaker 1: this point the season. But West was the Adrian Peterson
Speaker 1: champion dating back to middle of the middle of the
Speaker 1: off season, waiting for a team to pick him up.
Speaker 1: And he almost makes me feel like, if you're one
Speaker 1: of these running backs and you're entering your thirties, take
Speaker 1: a year off and then come back and dominate for
Speaker 1: another two or three seasons. But he's also a generational talent.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's not a lot of adis know, but
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch to the same thing. It just maybe it's
Speaker 1: another argument to take a sabbatical year in general to
Speaker 1: leave I just you know, it's about becoming refreshed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Peterson absolutely, and and I was actually thinking about that.
Speaker 1: Peterson has been everything they could have ever wanted him
Speaker 1: to be. Basically, Yeah, basically you get Adrian Peterson and
Speaker 1: who he has been in his career, which is a
Speaker 1: star running back, and they still have had so much
Speaker 1: trouble on offense. Even with that, imagine if Adrian Peterson
Speaker 1: was watched up or would stay on the field, how
Speaker 1: bad this offense would be. It's amazing that a day
Speaker 1: or two before they signed Adrian Peterson, Jake Bruden was
Speaker 1: still calling Rob Kelly the focal point of the offense
Speaker 1: and the starter. And we're only bringing in a guy
Speaker 1: to be a backup. And now Adrian Peterson, like Greg said,
Speaker 1: he is their offense. He he is. And you give
Speaker 1: the Redskins credit for winning the game where they didn't
Speaker 1: have Paul Richardson, they didn't have Chris Thompson. I'm forgetting
Speaker 1: Jamison Crowder. They didn't have Jamison Crowder, and they found
Speaker 1: a way to get it done. I think one of
Speaker 1: the reasons it was still closest they would take Peterson
Speaker 1: out once they got inside the ten yard line when
Speaker 1: he was the guy who got them there, put in
Speaker 1: capri bibs and settled for field goals. But I give
Speaker 1: also a lot of credit when you look at the
Speaker 1: two running games. Not like I think Peterson is a
Speaker 1: better runner right now than Zeke Elliott, but the Redskins
Speaker 1: defensive line, led by Henry's boy Jim. Tom Sula is
Speaker 1: doing an incredible job this year, and they dominated the
Speaker 1: Cowboys offensive line for most of this game, and I
Speaker 1: really thought they were. The difference was the Redskins did it.
Speaker 1: You want to talk about taking a couple of years off.
Speaker 1: Tom Seula gets high by the Niners. He's asked to
Speaker 1: pile the Titanic, you know, or move around deck chairs
Speaker 1: on the Titanic. They fire him immediately. Not his fault.
Speaker 1: He collects an ass load of money from the Niners
Speaker 1: and now, you know, gets back into coaching and he's
Speaker 1: feeling great and is leading a powerful unit. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: would argue that he discovered and so did that the
Speaker 1: Niners discover that he's not really the person you put
Speaker 1: out there is your pr face. You know that he
Speaker 1: struggled mightily with that, but he his players have always
Speaker 1: loved him. Well, we know from talking to Rob Ryan
Speaker 1: in London, some guys just aren't meant to be head coaches.
Speaker 1: It's okay to be an assistant coach your entire career.
Speaker 1: It's okay to just love football and teaching guys, and
Speaker 1: maybe you're not meant to be the head man. Henry.
Speaker 1: I texted Henry about it. He said, he's much happier
Speaker 1: right now. He's he's loved, loved. I think he's essentially
Speaker 1: working for free because he might still be getting paid
Speaker 1: by the forty niners. And you do wonder, like how long,
Speaker 1: like is Jason Garrett going to be one of those
Speaker 1: guys coming up because he doesn't survive this year because
Speaker 1: the last the last ten games, the Cowboys have gone
Speaker 1: win lost, win lost, win loss, win loss, win lost,
Speaker 1: which is the Jason Garrett thing ever, And so is
Speaker 1: setting up for like a forty eight yard field goal.
Speaker 1: To try to talk my favorite thing. Every Cowboy game
Speaker 1: seems to go down to the end. I know last
Speaker 1: week is forty seven, but shut up, um, but one
Speaker 1: of my favorite things in any close Cowboys game is
Speaker 1: the luxury box shot of Jerry Jones savorite because it
Speaker 1: won't last forever. You know, there's there's a finite, life
Speaker 1: is finite. Who are you telling Jarra won't be around forever?
Speaker 1: Is what I'm saying. So today we got my favorite
Speaker 1: luxury box shot is a crushing loss Jerry Jones luxury
Speaker 1: box and uh it had to hurt because the field goal,
Speaker 1: uh fifty two yard attend but by mar Uh hooked
Speaker 1: at the last second hit the upright uh seconds before
Speaker 1: Dallas gets flagged for a five yard penalty. And that's
Speaker 1: kind of what teams that are eight and eight type teams.
Speaker 1: These are the things that happened. Sometimes you benefit from
Speaker 1: these time things. Sometimes they happen to you, but you're
Speaker 1: just kind of floating in the middle. It was next
Speaker 1: level on that Jerry Jones shot that someone circled him
Speaker 1: with the yellow tellustrator pen to make it very clear
Speaker 1: which man we should be and not his grandson in
Speaker 1: front of him. Right, Might we suggest an alternative? Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones shot the flunkey wiping his glasses. Shot. Yeah, Zeke
Speaker 1: Elliott fifteen for thirty three and one. Zeke averages two
Speaker 1: yards to carry. Cowboys aren't winning football games. Let us
Speaker 1: move on on the sweep. Here comes Lewis going to
Speaker 1: the laft Mariota looking at the back of the end zone,
Speaker 1: tipped up in the Eric complete and the Charger will
Speaker 1: win the game. Thirty one seconds left in the contest,
Speaker 1: and defense comes up biggest in the game's biggest moment,
Speaker 1: and Philip rivers high five in his defense and encouraging
Speaker 1: them to get off the field. Oh we know that
Speaker 1: voice Matt money Smith with a call for kf I.
Speaker 1: Mike Rabel had the onions, but his team could not
Speaker 1: provide the execution. Adrian Phillips broke up Marcus Mariotta's two
Speaker 1: point conversion pass attempt in the final minute, and the
Speaker 1: Chargers held on for a twenty to nineteen win over
Speaker 1: the Titans at Wembley's Am there you go, Brits. There's
Speaker 1: a nice game for you. How you like that? Greg
Speaker 1: Rabel decided to risk it all rather than hope momentum
Speaker 1: carried over to overtime. What did you think? I had
Speaker 1: no problem going for it. I thought it was curious
Speaker 1: that a team that runs more than any team in
Speaker 1: the NFL on first down, which does not put his
Speaker 1: team in great position, refused to run the ball for
Speaker 1: three straight players with the game on the line. He
Speaker 1: did it on fourth and goal at the one, and
Speaker 1: you know what it worked? Luke's you counting on Luke
Speaker 1: Stocker to make a leaping catch with a man on
Speaker 1: his back, But you know what it worked? Then you
Speaker 1: go go. You get two more chances. First one, no
Speaker 1: one's open, but they get a penalty flag that moves
Speaker 1: it up a yard, you throw another pass. It's just
Speaker 1: I don't get it when when you're a running team
Speaker 1: that you run so much, it's it's it's like the
Speaker 1: anti is so against every principle that the Titans seemed
Speaker 1: to have. Yeah, they should have given the Baltimar Shawn
Speaker 1: Lynch move. I like that at the sec lewis like
Speaker 1: the biggest trope in the NFL. Or Dan lewis the
Speaker 1: best player on the field today. And I know it's
Speaker 1: easy to like second guest play calls, but I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: percentage wise, it's weird that a lot of coaches who
Speaker 1: are very conservative that's where they throw the ball when
Speaker 1: the numbers say running it there is just so so
Speaker 1: much better? Is it not? Also a characteristic though? Because
Speaker 1: it didn't work out. He it happened early in the day,
Speaker 1: it was it was an isolated game. The play call
Speaker 1: doesn't go your way, and you're critiqued all day long
Speaker 1: for it when it I mean, honestly, is it just
Speaker 1: because they they it was the play call? You think
Speaker 1: about issue? The play call wasn't great, But how about this,
Speaker 1: here's my counter this. I guess I'm probably gonna be
Speaker 1: in the minority in this room probably kicked the extra
Speaker 1: point and go to over time. I know we're we're
Speaker 1: in this new woke era for coaches where it's like, hey,
Speaker 1: I get analytics, I get things. I'm cool too. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go for it. And it's like this is this
Speaker 1: is very anti analytics to throw the ball there. But
Speaker 1: it's also that thing about sin. In this era, the
Speaker 1: coaches are the real gun slingers. And and sometimes I
Speaker 1: feel like you get a little too cute. And Mike
Speaker 1: Rabel got sucked into the movement a little bit. I
Speaker 1: kicked the extra point, I had the momentum. I just
Speaker 1: went down the field. He said after the game, Brabel two,
Speaker 1: which was weird that he thought his team was beat
Speaker 1: up physically and and and and wouldn't maybe farewell and overtime. Well, then,
Speaker 1: how did you just drive eighty five yards to tie
Speaker 1: the game? Um? I thought it was kind of needlessly risky.
Speaker 1: So if it works, everybody is happy. But it just
Speaker 1: after it happened, I was just like, whoa I mean?
Speaker 1: And I'm happy I got a lock out of it.
Speaker 1: Daddy's on a three game winning streak, West, you better
Speaker 1: keep winning because I ain't losing no more. I hear you,
Speaker 1: but uh, but but I just I just thought it
Speaker 1: was unnecessary, honestly, But I think I'm in the minority.
Speaker 1: I'm no, I'm with you, because it's like there does
Speaker 1: seem this to be this desire to not take it
Speaker 1: into overtime here, But that might have had something to
Speaker 1: do with the Chargers offense score aside, like they continue
Speaker 1: to for a big plays very similar to to the
Speaker 1: other two games which I just started, actually the Eagles
Speaker 1: one where you look at the score and you don't
Speaker 1: think this is an offensive game. The Chargers basically dominated offensively.
Speaker 1: They had seven possessions, so he scored twenty points and
Speaker 1: seven possessions. That's that's a great return. They just didn't
Speaker 1: have the ball very long. Titans kind of play this
Speaker 1: this very close to the Vest offense that worked today,
Speaker 1: where they kept hitting on third downs, held the ball.
Speaker 1: I thought it wasn't crazy to go for the especially
Speaker 1: the way Dion Lewis. It was nice to be right,
Speaker 1: I just I just don't know if it was necessary.
Speaker 1: It was nice to be reminded what an incredible player
Speaker 1: Dion Lewis is. How funny is to watch a hundred
Speaker 1: fifty five yards from scrimmage. In this game, he did
Speaker 1: it on his own. The receivers let Mariota down for
Speaker 1: the most part, but I kind of expected the Titans
Speaker 1: to score in that play because the Chargers defense was
Speaker 1: not playing particularly well. They got a lot of stops
Speaker 1: on unforced errors by the type lost by the way
Speaker 1: by the Titans. Melvin Gordon gets scratched right before the game.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Chargers are still there's a lot of
Speaker 1: talent on that team, but you got a huge gift there,
Speaker 1: and everybody likes saucein Ekeler. But you have a chance
Speaker 1: to beat the Charges without Melvin Gordon. You still can't
Speaker 1: find out what figure out a way. They're now three
Speaker 1: and four. How about the five and two Chargers though
Speaker 1: this is one of those games that you might have
Speaker 1: expected them to blow. They only had forty four plays
Speaker 1: in it. But Rivers has another beautifully. They blow this
Speaker 1: game undred times three. I don't think this is that
Speaker 1: team that that that that blew those games in the past,
Speaker 1: though they were. This is a completely different Chargers team
Speaker 1: right now. Big when they go into the bye week,
Speaker 1: they can get Melvin Gordon healthy. They're expecting Joe Joey
Speaker 1: Bosa to come back after the bye to go on
Speaker 1: the road for Seattle on Oakland. What is it like
Speaker 1: forty something straight days they play without a home game.
Speaker 1: I'm a little suspicious, Mark. I would have liked to
Speaker 1: stop there. I mean, they make the stop in the
Speaker 1: two point conversion, but let him go to defense down
Speaker 1: the field. Seven games into the season, the defense has
Speaker 1: been uninspiring over overall, and they've had five and two
Speaker 1: and they they are five to The offense had a
Speaker 1: chance to assault that away too, and they couldn't get
Speaker 1: the first down. Radar defense does not stand out. And
Speaker 1: Len has been on your radar for yes, the game
Speaker 1: management and and I and I felt at the end
Speaker 1: of this one too like sometimes uh with the time
Speaker 1: that the time outs and the lack of going for
Speaker 1: it a little bit at the end. How about another
Speaker 1: crazy ending to staff that you're best. There's pressure by Clayborne.
Speaker 1: He starts cooling, he's off, he pulls off, behaves one
Speaker 1: deep to the end zone. That ball sailing toward the
Speaker 1: goal on it's cap by White. White is caught and
Speaker 1: wrapped up short of the goal on and the Patriots
Speaker 1: are going to win. But that close to a hail
Speaker 1: Mary and an answered prayer for Chicago. See, there's a
Speaker 1: there's a little hint of joylessness starting to set in
Speaker 1: around New England about this football team. I feel that
Speaker 1: there's like there wasn't any celebration or just like that
Speaker 1: was close. We went again, turned the page. Well you
Speaker 1: give up like a fifty five yard hail Mary to
Speaker 1: the one if you have mixed emotions in that moment,
Speaker 1: probably because you're like, what does happen? You don't see
Speaker 1: that too much? Bob sotein scot Zolac with a little
Speaker 1: U color in there with the Patriots Radio network. Yes,
Speaker 1: Mitch Drovsky's desperation midfield. He even the final seconds bounded receiver,
Speaker 1: but Kevin White got stopped at the one. A cruel
Speaker 1: ending for the team of a t N and business
Speaker 1: as usual for Operation Fake Pony am I right marks.
Speaker 1: Finals score thirty eight thirty one in favor of the Patriots,
Speaker 1: who won despite Gronk staying back in uh New England
Speaker 1: with injuries West. The Bears jumped out to an early
Speaker 1: lead in this game. How did the Patriots take control?
Speaker 1: Special teams? Um? They came out on the opening drive
Speaker 1: and it was Sonny Michelle and James White, a lot
Speaker 1: of what it's been for the past month on a
Speaker 1: nice seventy five played drive in which there was no
Speaker 1: resistance it seemed to whatsoever from the Bears defense. And
Speaker 1: then uh, they lose Sony Michelle to a on a
Speaker 1: plan which he fumbled and twisted his knee and it
Speaker 1: was the second fumble. It put them in a seventeen
Speaker 1: seven hole, and then special teams took over Cordello Patterson's
Speaker 1: nine five yard kickoff return touchdown, his the sixth of
Speaker 1: his career, and then Donte Hi Tower, who might be
Speaker 1: the only linebacker running like a five still making plays,
Speaker 1: blocked a punt and then Kyle Vannoy picked it up,
Speaker 1: randing in for a touchdown. Patriots really never looked back
Speaker 1: after that. I'm looking at Josh Gordon becoming a bigger
Speaker 1: part of this offense every week, and they need him
Speaker 1: to be playing more snaps now than now. He's clearly
Speaker 1: in the top two receivers in terms of snaps, basically
Speaker 1: playing every snaps and making big plays in this game
Speaker 1: for for a hundred, which led the team. It could
Speaker 1: have been like six D fifty or a hundred sixty.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady threw one over the middle that was at
Speaker 1: at Josh Gordon's shoelaces when he was wide open, and
Speaker 1: there was another play on the sideline where Brady threw
Speaker 1: behind him and he was only able to get a
Speaker 1: fingertip on it or two. Um I think those could
Speaker 1: have been Josh Gordon's fault for running the route wrong.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but the rapport is still not where
Speaker 1: it needs to be. And yet you can see Gordon's
Speaker 1: talent um which is no surprise to Mark of course,
Speaker 1: but on a fifty five yard tackle breaking catch and
Speaker 1: run on towards the end of the game really set
Speaker 1: up James White's touchdown to give them the thirty eight
Speaker 1: points to overcome that hamstring injury that forced him out
Speaker 1: of Cleveland. James White, as each week goes on, it's
Speaker 1: kind of get going higher in the New England sports pantheon.
Speaker 1: He's a captain, He's that guy. He's one of their
Speaker 1: captains on this team. And you can see why he
Speaker 1: had a career hunt nineteen touches today because they lost
Speaker 1: um Sony Michelle and Kenyan Barner was there between between
Speaker 1: the tackles. Runner he's like five or whatever they needed
Speaker 1: running back. I think they'll probably sign like Mike Gillisli, Right,
Speaker 1: where are we at on the trade for someone? Where
Speaker 1: are we at on the team of around the NFL?
Speaker 1: Do we like what we're seeing from him? Since here's
Speaker 1: what's going on. They've given up sixty nine points the
Speaker 1: last two weeks to the Dolphins and Patriots with Cleio
Speaker 1: Mac playing through an ankle injury. It's not just Trabiskie
Speaker 1: who was way off the mark today on his throws.
Speaker 1: Um he missed by a foot or two on some
Speaker 1: throws that could have really made this game different. But
Speaker 1: his legs were a huge fact during this game. He
Speaker 1: rushed for eighty one yards and uh sort of be
Speaker 1: deviled the Patriots defense, which had made his scrambling ability
Speaker 1: a focal point. He had a beautiful touchdown run and
Speaker 1: on the ground. I feel like he's a top three
Speaker 1: quarterback on the ground. But I remain somewhat mystified by
Speaker 1: anything he attempts to do through the year for the
Speaker 1: most part, and yet he's putting up numbers and that
Speaker 1: credit goes to Matt and Aggy. I think it's been
Speaker 1: a great higher Ultimately, the formula for them is not
Speaker 1: and I know there was two special teams touchdowns today.
Speaker 1: You give up yards one first downs to the Patriots,
Speaker 1: maybe that's not a terrible performance. But ultimately the offense
Speaker 1: is kind of doing their job. The last two weeks,
Speaker 1: they've they've put up enough points for the most part.
Speaker 1: You would expect the defense to be able to do
Speaker 1: enough to win these last two weeks, and they haven't
Speaker 1: been able to. And with this fourth straight win for
Speaker 1: the Patriots, Greg they are now currently and it's very early,
Speaker 1: obviously slotted in as the number two seed in the
Speaker 1: a f C. Gonna keep that by streak alive. It's
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Charges right behind him though, also tied five
Speaker 1: and two. Uh, let's move on more wild endings. Blake, look,
Speaker 1: they blitz, he gets hit, runs out of the air,
Speaker 1: made a man miss on the bubble. Blake has fumbled
Speaker 1: the ball again and the Texans have recovered the Blake
Speaker 1: portals fumbled near the twelve yard line of Jacksonville. Okay,
Speaker 1: this wasn't a crazy endy Frank Frangie with the call
Speaker 1: for Jacks Radio Network, But what that was was the
Speaker 1: last play of the game for Blake Bortles. The Houston
Speaker 1: Texans became the latest team to shut down the Jaguars
Speaker 1: on offense, and this time it costs. Blake is spot
Speaker 1: in the line up. The Jacks quarterback benched after a
Speaker 1: third quarter fumble, backup Cody Kessler unable to launch a
Speaker 1: comeback effort. Houston the victory over Jacksonville in Jacksonville. Four
Speaker 1: straight wins for the Texans after that, oh and three
Speaker 1: start and uh. The Jaguars meanwhile, have lost I believe
Speaker 1: four or five. Now is that where we are with
Speaker 1: the Jacks? Uh? And they are trappanie the rubble of
Speaker 1: another Bortles apocalypse. But let us not again forget that
Speaker 1: this is not all Bordles. The defense, which was turnover
Speaker 1: crazy last year, and those are one of those things
Speaker 1: that's very hard to reproduce. But they weren't. They struggled,
Speaker 1: uh to make game changing plays on defense. In fact,
Speaker 1: I believe they're negative twelve minus twelve for the year
Speaker 1: in the turnover battle, which is just the polar opposite
Speaker 1: of what this team was able to do with their
Speaker 1: ball control offense and their opportunistic defense last year. Um.
Speaker 1: But what is the problem with the Jaguars. Well, Jalen
Speaker 1: Ramsey is the superstar cornerback of the Jags. As you
Speaker 1: might imagine frustration setting in in Jacksonville, and he was asked,
Speaker 1: what's the issue, what's going on with the Jags? Y'all?
Speaker 1: Walk in here, y'all. See how it is in here, y'all. See. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've vibed with each other, y'all. See how we've vibed
Speaker 1: towards the coaches, y'all. I'll see how it is. There's
Speaker 1: no secret what's going on here right now? Ain't nobody
Speaker 1: gonna say is? You know? We can't, but it ain't.
Speaker 1: No secret was going on and it ain't. It ain't
Speaker 1: right right now? Well, the greg the Jalen Ramsey spent
Speaker 1: the offseason firing away at quarterbacks across the league. Was
Speaker 1: this a shot at his own? It was, and maybe
Speaker 1: uh a deflection from what the media members saw when
Speaker 1: a door opened. I loved how this played out social
Speaker 1: media that the Jaguars pr opened the door to open
Speaker 1: the locker room for postgame interviews and they saw an
Speaker 1: interaction where Clais Campbell is holding back Unique and Goquay
Speaker 1: who was trying to get after someone. And then they
Speaker 1: just closed the door back up, and so I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know who's yelling at who. And Gaku was
Speaker 1: involved in August with a fight with Dante Fowler, which
Speaker 1: got Fowler suspend. There's been a little bit of bad
Speaker 1: juju around this team for a while. I'd be like
Speaker 1: last year's Jaguars were very much a unified US against
Speaker 1: the rest of the NFL, US against all our doubters,
Speaker 1: US against the world, and they maximized that with a
Speaker 1: trip deep in the playoffs this year. Because you're there
Speaker 1: was a lot of young players on this team too,
Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's a reflection of coaching
Speaker 1: or what's happening in general, it's become the Jaguars versus
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, Like that's not unusual for stuff to happen
Speaker 1: in the locker room, but what happened today what they described,
Speaker 1: feels like a tipping point moment where now you've gotta
Speaker 1: roll into London and face a desperate Eagles team as well.
Speaker 1: If you're three and four and you're the Jaguars and
Speaker 1: you and you've lose that game, you're three and five
Speaker 1: in a still winnable division, but you have to question
Speaker 1: what their DNA would be going forward. In the a
Speaker 1: f C, Doug Marone explained that he benched Bortles because
Speaker 1: he simply didn't have the manpower to bench all eleven
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball, So we wanted to
Speaker 1: send a message by benching the starting quarterback. And I
Speaker 1: get that, but it's still to me a major departure
Speaker 1: from their philosophy of ignoring the quarterback problem and doing
Speaker 1: everything to try to cater to Blake Bortle's confidence. This
Speaker 1: to me, maybe it gets in Bartle's head, but what
Speaker 1: I mean is that canna actually make him play any worse?
Speaker 1: Well is he? Is he gonna play next week? Or
Speaker 1: does Cody Kessler start in London. I wouldn't expect that,
Speaker 1: but I don't know from from the way Maron's comments sounded.
Speaker 1: This was just a message center and Bordles will be
Speaker 1: right back understanding because it doesn't have any other options.
Speaker 1: Cody Kesler is not going to save the ship here.
Speaker 1: And they banged themselves. They did, and they it was
Speaker 1: irresponsible for them and this is not Monday Morning quarterback.
Speaker 1: Everybody said the same thing. Why are they going into
Speaker 1: the season all in on Blake Bortles. I tweeted about
Speaker 1: it during the game. Why isn't Teddy Bridgewater on this
Speaker 1: team right now? Either they would, they could have signed
Speaker 1: them during free agency or traded for him and given
Speaker 1: up a third round pick or even a second round
Speaker 1: pick to get some more protection at the most important
Speaker 1: position of the game. And now they're just floating. Especially
Speaker 1: back in March when if you're if you were the
Speaker 1: Jaguars management, you viewed yourself as a super Bowl team.
Speaker 1: You didn't know these defensive problems we're gonna happen. You
Speaker 1: look like you were a player away, and you did
Speaker 1: nothing but extend Blake Bortles and put a bunch of
Speaker 1: pr around it to make it seem like we're the
Speaker 1: right ones here. Maybe Bridgewater is not the best quarterback
Speaker 1: for their system, maybe they're people don't believe in him. Um,
Speaker 1: but I think it's worth pointing out the Saints saw
Speaker 1: themselves as a contender and went out and picked up
Speaker 1: insurance for the quarterback, and the Jaguars said, our quarterback
Speaker 1: is too mentally fragile to handle insurance. Well, they've they've
Speaker 1: benched Portos before, and so I don't know if like
Speaker 1: he thinks that that result was so good that they
Speaker 1: wanted to repeat it. There was I found a headline
Speaker 1: from last auguste where it said Blake bortles career in
Speaker 1: the NFL maybe over. And that was the day that
Speaker 1: they bench Blake Bortles for Chad Henny late in the
Speaker 1: preseason last year, and everyone assumed Chad Henny would wind
Speaker 1: up being the Week one starter. It didn't even happen
Speaker 1: that the benching basically ended up. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it was just symbolic or what it was. And then
Speaker 1: Bortles came out and had a good season. I don't
Speaker 1: know what it was. Had season. He his NFL career
Speaker 1: is continuing though he had a good season by Bortles,
Speaker 1: that's a good point. Parameters and the Texans who said,
Speaker 1: oh in three, uh start end your season. They are
Speaker 1: in good shape and they're still figuring it out. I
Speaker 1: don't think this team their first place them they're all
Speaker 1: alone in the first place now and there there's still
Speaker 1: a lot of room for them to get betther Lamar
Speaker 1: Miller even showed up in this game. West's telling you
Speaker 1: something in a touchdown and Will Fuller looks like he's
Speaker 1: over that hamstring. Injury. I've maintained that he's really important
Speaker 1: to that offense. Uh. By the way, two time making
Speaker 1: the leap candidate Lamar Miller, he doubled up that. Remember
Speaker 1: I wrote it once and there was another one. Huh
Speaker 1: West wrote the first round one and you feels like
Speaker 1: it was very strong. Doubling back around like an administrative error.
Speaker 1: Potentially you're very actually more of a bit on the
Speaker 1: even on the podcast, we started to talk to you like,
Speaker 1: I'm going back to Lamar. That's fine. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: all ridiculous. Uh, let's move on. Snap is down and
Speaker 1: the kick is up and it is no good. The
Speaker 1: kick is no good. Justin Tucker mrs the extra point
Speaker 1: twenty four seconds left and the Saints up miss unbelievable.
Speaker 1: He missed it. You guys like figuring it out the fly?
Speaker 1: Tell me about it, John Dude, Zach Streef and Deuce
Speaker 1: McAllister Steve Yeller w w L with the call. Justin
Speaker 1: Tucker missed the first p A t attempt of his
Speaker 1: career in the Ravens. So uh, potential scoring touchdown with
Speaker 1: twenty four seconds to play mean nothing because Drew Brees
Speaker 1: in the New Orleans Saints escape within Justin Tucker, this
Speaker 1: is the extra point late in the game, was first
Speaker 1: miss of his career. West how why no? No? Uh?
Speaker 1: You right before that play said watch this right down
Speaker 1: the middle, He's gonna split the upright, No chance he misses.
Speaker 1: You're the reason, you know. I feel like I literally
Speaker 1: split my favorite. Um. I wanted. I wanted to see
Speaker 1: that the Ravens defense was not a mirage and they
Speaker 1: could do it against a good offense. Um. And I'm
Speaker 1: not ready to make any grand sweeping statements. This was
Speaker 1: not a referendum on the Ravens defense. They held the
Speaker 1: Saints to twelve fewer points than normal, ninety fewer yards
Speaker 1: than normal. They were in control all game, and Drew
Speaker 1: Brees made plays. Give him credit on third and fourth
Speaker 1: down late in the third quarter, early in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: middle of the fourth quarter. He made the plays and
Speaker 1: the Ravens defense didn't. But it's still to me like
Speaker 1: this game could have gone either way. Definitely could have
Speaker 1: gone either way. And I'm not ready to think any
Speaker 1: differently about the Ravens after this game. No. I made
Speaker 1: sort of a a joking point to start the podcast
Speaker 1: about all these close games you nailed it too. It
Speaker 1: was very funny. Yeah, thank you very much. I just
Speaker 1: wanted to bring that up. That's that's my entire point now. Uh.
Speaker 1: But really in all of these games, it's true like
Speaker 1: where there's gonna be so many takeaways in every newspaper
Speaker 1: on each side, and we're gonna, you know, feel so
Speaker 1: differently about all of these teams because of how one
Speaker 1: or two plays, and it's really like there's there's not
Speaker 1: much to it other than you know, luck is the
Speaker 1: biggest factor I think in wins and last is when
Speaker 1: teams and games are this close. And it's still impressive
Speaker 1: to me though, that the Saints put themselves in that
Speaker 1: position where it was a coin flip game and that
Speaker 1: it was up to Breeze to make those sort of places,
Speaker 1: because I think that's a tough place to go to
Speaker 1: win in Baltimore and show you can win that type
Speaker 1: of game, which is seventeen six at one point, that's impressive.
Speaker 1: One thing about the Saints that I found unimpressive was
Speaker 1: the fact that they totaled out a bunch of like
Speaker 1: foot and handwarmers uh to their sideline when it was
Speaker 1: fifty two degrees out. Really, so you don't worried about
Speaker 1: them in January if they don't, just I think it
Speaker 1: was a little on the nose to like to to
Speaker 1: to need that or to require twelve games. You're saying,
Speaker 1: we stay in you're a little pretty, you know side home?
Speaker 1: Why why why try to be uh? I try to
Speaker 1: be too proud? Just be warm? Haven't The Saints have
Speaker 1: won two games this year because of missed extra points.
Speaker 1: Right the Browns game? Right the Browns game had multiple
Speaker 1: disasters happening from a special teams angle. Drew Brees by
Speaker 1: the way historic uh touchdown past number five hundred in
Speaker 1: this one. I mean, so he's pretty we get it
Speaker 1: because he's in that point in his career where's sort
Speaker 1: of breaking something in the record book every week and
Speaker 1: then they like bring out a paper certificate. It's like,
Speaker 1: we we appreciate this player, but I don't need to
Speaker 1: hear about the updated records. Mark Mark hang On, he
Speaker 1: set the all time passing yarded record. Nobody in the
Speaker 1: history of the game had ever done it. That was
Speaker 1: one record, and this was his five hundred touchdown. Only
Speaker 1: like three guys have done that. That's great, but we
Speaker 1: know Drew Brees is good. This isn't. Basically, this is
Speaker 1: a flaw on this podcast. And I made a point
Speaker 1: to bring this up to five touchdown because you guys
Speaker 1: are completely like allergic to ever giving out credit for
Speaker 1: anything that that that awards longevity of greatness and that
Speaker 1: we don't career. This isn't baseball, but like counting history
Speaker 1: of being allergic to longevity and listen to what just
Speaker 1: touchdowns doesn't mean anything. That's not what I said. I
Speaker 1: said we don't need the stats to know that he's
Speaker 1: in a long, great career. He's go It's not how
Speaker 1: football works. The game film works in football, not the stats.
Speaker 1: They both work, so they don't because we're playing in
Speaker 1: an era that completely negates the passing stats of other
Speaker 1: eras or vice versa. I think everyone here has great
Speaker 1: points and I don't even know where this comes down.
Speaker 1: Are you coming back to your opening comments on the
Speaker 1: you did a great job about it again. Drew Brees
Speaker 1: set another record today or tied one that keeps getting
Speaker 1: which is the radar, which is that he is now?
Speaker 1: I think the third quarterback to defeat all thirty two
Speaker 1: teams in that one in the end. I don't, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get, I don't need that one that one he
Speaker 1: did or the Saints did right exactly. Uh, Joe Flacco though,
Speaker 1: no flucco. That was a nice drive that's gonna get
Speaker 1: lost in this. And John Brown went over a hundred
Speaker 1: with a touch, So the Ravens had a nice comeback
Speaker 1: there all gets wiped away. And yes, Justin Tucker and
Speaker 1: May a hundred and twelve straight extra points the only
Speaker 1: kicker without a miss since they moved the extra point back.
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem right that they have the same record
Speaker 1: as the Texans. We should just know we're talking about
Speaker 1: Tucker now. It's just in saying like four and three
Speaker 1: stand with Tucker. He made the first two tries of
Speaker 1: his career. Here's what he had to say. I I said,
Speaker 1: I know, Justin, I know he's gonna be a stand
Speaker 1: up guy. And he was the first guy at the podium.
Speaker 1: Every kicker, every football player, is going to come across
Speaker 1: a moment, uh, the challenging moment um. You know, every
Speaker 1: kicker is gonna if you play long enough, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have a kick that you want back. And tonight was
Speaker 1: that night for me. Uh. The only thing that we
Speaker 1: can do is just go to work and try to
Speaker 1: make you know the best out of a bad situation. UM.
Speaker 1: You know, I appreciate the efforts on my teammates putting
Speaker 1: us in a position to extend the game. UM, and
Speaker 1: unfortunately I just wasn't able to put the ball through
Speaker 1: the upright? Can we stop handing out lollipops for having
Speaker 1: a press conferences? I've seen this in a few places
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I like no one's given lollipops to
Speaker 1: Cam Newton for showing up looking like Mr Peanut after
Speaker 1: the latest Panthers Lassie does it every week? Give me
Speaker 1: a break? Can I just say a little bit worried
Speaker 1: about Justin Tucker's eyeballs exploding out of his head after
Speaker 1: the miss um? So let's see how he reacts to this.
Speaker 1: This is the ultimate test of kicker confidence. Will Justin
Speaker 1: Tucker be lights out next week's Let's move on, Matthew
Speaker 1: take spakes to give with the Garrett Washington brow does
Speaker 1: gotta bad wide open that don't touchdown? The tart Lions
Speaker 1: Welcome back, Michael Roberts, Dan Miller w j R. With
Speaker 1: the call Matt Stafford eighteen seventeen and two touches including
Speaker 1: that touchdown. You just heard carry On Johnson. Remember all
Speaker 1: the lines that can't get on hunder yard rusher. How
Speaker 1: about a buck fifty eight for Carrie on Johnson. Lines
Speaker 1: went over two hundred as a team on the ground
Speaker 1: win over the Dolphins in Miami. Mark the Lions have
Speaker 1: climbed back to five hundred after that ugly start to
Speaker 1: their season. How have they done it well? I mean
Speaker 1: what they did today is to to what you mentioned
Speaker 1: is being able to absolutely lash the Dolphins on the
Speaker 1: ground a very Unlions like quality. And it was not
Speaker 1: something where you know, you have brock Osweiler again and
Speaker 1: all the songs and draping surrounding bro October and business.
Speaker 1: He was not that the reason the Dolphins. Okay, it's fun.
Speaker 1: He didn't win, so yeah, he doesn't get a big party.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's soon gonna be brock bur and I
Speaker 1: think that the longer he's in there, the less appealing
Speaker 1: this Dolphins team will be. But I don't not Greg
Speaker 1: what is going on with the Ryan Tannehill thing. I
Speaker 1: find this mystifying attitude that he's out for It sounds
Speaker 1: like he's out for at least a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: and they're going to reevaluate and they're they're saying, now
Speaker 1: he does not need surgery, but it's it's troubling if
Speaker 1: you're Ryan Tannehill or his agent or no, he did not.
Speaker 1: He did not. In fact, he made some of the
Speaker 1: throws that brock Osweiler made in this game are throws
Speaker 1: he never made with the Texans or in his you know,
Speaker 1: summer with the Browns. Whatever that was about. I mean,
Speaker 1: he he looked like a different quarterback, and I think
Speaker 1: that has a lot of you. I think it's Adam Gaze,
Speaker 1: but Adam Gaze at the same time seems to have
Speaker 1: plenty of issues because for Davante Parker, who is inactive
Speaker 1: and had an injury at some point before, Parker's agent
Speaker 1: came out after the game and said, basically, you're an
Speaker 1: offense that needs wide receiver help. You guys are averaging
Speaker 1: six point one yards per pass catch, and you have
Speaker 1: taken my player and deactivated him and essentially said that
Speaker 1: he has lied about the injury status of this wide receiver,
Speaker 1: which is a very bizarre thing to come out of
Speaker 1: an ugly loss for the Dolphins. He flat out called
Speaker 1: Adam Gas incompetent, who okay, I thought that like a
Speaker 1: coach or something. I mean, that's that's that's trying hard
Speaker 1: to get traded. They have a Thursday night game coming
Speaker 1: up where they might need Devonte Parker. So I don't
Speaker 1: know if the Dolphins will take that bait because I
Speaker 1: don't know who's given up a great pick for DeVante Parker. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: the Lions are three and three. They're right there with
Speaker 1: the Bears in that in that conference. They're only one
Speaker 1: game out of the leader a game and a half.
Speaker 1: The Lions. I mean, after a rough start, they're not
Speaker 1: they're not that bad off. I mean, oh, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: you know we don't like records, but I got another
Speaker 1: one for you. Wess just tied the all time locker record.
Speaker 1: That's seven straight dubs to open the season. You did
Speaker 1: it again, Yeah, the first time I picked a road team.
Speaker 1: Do you like that type of longevity? To go almost
Speaker 1: two months without a loss? Is that? Does that get
Speaker 1: you going? With? That does get me going? We're gonna
Speaker 1: take it week to week in the Westland, and you
Speaker 1: pick the right I think home teams are three and nine.
Speaker 1: If you're like, if you're Alliance fan and you look
Speaker 1: and you have four d and fifty seven yards on
Speaker 1: only fifty eight plays and you ran the ball thirty
Speaker 1: five times. I mean, we're cooking. You're cooking with gas. Here.
Speaker 1: We talk a lot about teams change identities during the season.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're gonna be a run heavy team,
Speaker 1: but Stafford has been very efficient the last few weeks,
Speaker 1: and this team is changing as they go. And who
Speaker 1: knows for all this attention on the quarterback situation in
Speaker 1: Miami Oswaller and Tannehill, what about a defense that pretty
Speaker 1: much got steam rolled today West When you win these
Speaker 1: locks and you go home on a Sunday night and
Speaker 1: the paramours there she's home from work. Is there a
Speaker 1: little bit of it's like I want added extra attention
Speaker 1: in a good way between you two. Is she just
Speaker 1: like this guy is up that has never happened? Um? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the lock has not been discussed on Sunday nights
Speaker 1: after a long PA. This is so not maybe not
Speaker 1: on her radar the way she even aware? Is she
Speaker 1: even aware of your she is aware of the luck
Speaker 1: She listens to the podcast, she's quietly you've you've correctly
Speaker 1: predicted seven straight games to start the season. Seven or oh?
Speaker 1: Is this gonna be like, um, a no hitter in baseball,
Speaker 1: where we're not gonna even like sit near you because
Speaker 1: you have to stay by yourself. We don't want to
Speaker 1: jinx you like because you're very hot right now. And
Speaker 1: this is this is unpreced at the territory. No, I
Speaker 1: would say, in matters of importance, it falls well below
Speaker 1: a no hitter in an actual baseball game where the
Speaker 1: players actually involved in the action. And I'm not so
Speaker 1: you're calling this just yet another vicarious hobby horse parlor game. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm saying that our job is to predict things and
Speaker 1: it really doesn't matter whether we get them right or wrong,
Speaker 1: prediction whatever. Lean into this a little bit. Let's move on.
Speaker 1: Cousins takes the snap, Jets blitz, it's picked up Cousins
Speaker 1: firing car Albrick Robinson in the end zone and it's
Speaker 1: caught touchdown. Robinson. They don't use him much, but when
Speaker 1: they do, it generally results in the touchdown. Should use
Speaker 1: it more than Paul Allen, Vikings Radio Network with the call.
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins through two touchdown passes, including that game icing
Speaker 1: fourth down strike to Aldrick Robinson and the Minnesota Vikings
Speaker 1: pull away from the New York Jets thirty seven seventeen.
Speaker 1: They win. It's their third straight wind and the Vikings uh,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden look like the Vikings that we
Speaker 1: remember from last year. A really nice effort. The the offense,
Speaker 1: um look good. Kirk Cousins were not easy conditions in
Speaker 1: the Meadowlands with the wind. A lot a lot of
Speaker 1: these games on the East Coast seemed to have that issue.
Speaker 1: But Cousins made throws when he needed to. And Lettavius
Speaker 1: Murray once again, uh, really really nice job is you
Speaker 1: know one cut straight ahead finding seems he kind of
Speaker 1: wore down the Jets defense in this game. I think
Speaker 1: he finished with two touchdowns. UM. So a nice win
Speaker 1: and uh most of all the Vikings defense, which uh
Speaker 1: we talked about this west in the lead up to
Speaker 1: this game. This would be a good test for Sam
Speaker 1: Donald and the Jets. The rookie coming off two really
Speaker 1: good games and he wasn't up to the task against
Speaker 1: the Vikings. UM. Not an excuse his his wide receiver
Speaker 1: corps has really beat up. But uh, I think Donald
Speaker 1: struggled in this game having to deal with a pass
Speaker 1: rush in addition to uh secondary played by the Vikings
Speaker 1: man coverage that really that really seemed to to vex Donald,
Speaker 1: so he he he played poorly in this one, probably
Speaker 1: his worst game as a pro, and the Vikings were
Speaker 1: really clearly the superior team. So if you're the Vikings,
Speaker 1: you're feeling good. And if you're Adam feeling you're making
Speaker 1: history because he just became the fifth player in NFL
Speaker 1: history to get at least a hundred yards receiving its
Speaker 1: seven consecutive games. He went nine for one, ten and
Speaker 1: a touchdown. He also ended the game spitting up blood
Speaker 1: courtesy of a hit from Jamal Adams. But it didn't
Speaker 1: appear I'm like I was gonna say, it didn't appear serious.
Speaker 1: He was spitting up blood at the end of the Yeah,
Speaker 1: he'll decide ultimately, but I don't think he's facing any
Speaker 1: lengthy absence. But big win for the Vikings, big win,
Speaker 1: especially when you see what they have coming up on
Speaker 1: the schedule their next six games Saints Lions at home,
Speaker 1: then the bye at Chicago, hosting Green Bay, at New
Speaker 1: England at Seattle. There's not a pushy. There's not a
Speaker 1: cupcake in that group. No, there is not. And uh,
Speaker 1: how bad was it for Donald at at a certain point.
Speaker 1: I believe you through for minus one yard in the
Speaker 1: second and third quarters, uh combined two or thirteen for
Speaker 1: minus one yard. There were a couple of drops in there,
Speaker 1: but he was really vexed in this game, some of
Speaker 1: these picks. I mean, was this a game just getting
Speaker 1: out of hand down the stretch basically? Not really? Actually
Speaker 1: the Vikings outplay the Jets badly, but this was a
Speaker 1: ten point game in the fourth quarter, and um Donald
Speaker 1: threw a pick. And I believe he's up to nine
Speaker 1: now maybe so he's he's throwing interceptions. He's been very
Speaker 1: good with ball security, uh, with fumbles, which was an
Speaker 1: issue that he had coming in the coming out of college.
Speaker 1: But he is throwing the ball around. So he threw
Speaker 1: a bad pick. And then the the play call that
Speaker 1: you heard leading into this discussion, UH came really pretty
Speaker 1: gutsy called by Zimmer. It's a ten point game, fourth
Speaker 1: and long from about the forty yard line of the Jets,
Speaker 1: and they instead of punting it, uh, kirk Cousin just
Speaker 1: heaves it down the field and somehow gets it in
Speaker 1: a tiny window past uh Mo Clayborn, Yeah, and into
Speaker 1: the hands of Aldrich Robinson uh that put the game
Speaker 1: away that they added a touchdown to ice it, but
Speaker 1: a pretty decisive win for the Vikings at the middle
Speaker 1: of Well, we like the Jets receiver k crew a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, but suddenly Quincy Andon was out
Speaker 1: with an injury, and then Terrell Prior was cut this
Speaker 1: week after with an injury, which is odd. And I
Speaker 1: know they're saying they might have him back on the
Speaker 1: team when he's ready in a couple of weeks, but
Speaker 1: if he was someone they really believed in, you don't
Speaker 1: just randomly cut him in the middle of It's something
Speaker 1: going on there. Terrell Prior is constantly tied into weird
Speaker 1: moves and you want you have to wonder if it's
Speaker 1: the Tarrell Prior experience to something right, And so you
Speaker 1: have Jermaine Kurtis kind of been under the radar this year,
Speaker 1: had no no yards. Today Robby Anderson gets ten targets
Speaker 1: for forty four yards and suddenly like then, now Donald's
Speaker 1: not playing with us nearly a stack to deck and
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tougher for him. One thing to keep
Speaker 1: in mind, I believe this was a handsa spanner before
Speaker 1: the season where you laid out how the season could
Speaker 1: go for Jets fans and Sam Donald and of course,
Speaker 1: best case scenario, you know, is he leads them to
Speaker 1: the playoffs everything goes well. Worst case scenario, he's exposed
Speaker 1: as a bust. But you said, what you kind of
Speaker 1: expect him. What you're totally okay with is an up
Speaker 1: and down season, some rookie lumps. At least you get
Speaker 1: the sense he's the quarterback of the future and the
Speaker 1: Jets found their guy, and that's to me what he
Speaker 1: is right now. Yeah, this has been the easiest sundays
Speaker 1: I've had, uh watching the Jets really ever, because there's
Speaker 1: no pressure to make the playoffs. It's just to haven't
Speaker 1: proven and him to show make strides. The last two
Speaker 1: weeks he made big strides. This week he took a
Speaker 1: step back, and I expect him to take steps forward
Speaker 1: in the future because I do believe in him despite today.
Speaker 1: So uh yeah, so far, so okay. For the gym.
Speaker 1: You also don't have to play that hideous dance as
Speaker 1: a fan where you're hoping that once you realize they're
Speaker 1: not going to be a playoff team, that you want
Speaker 1: them to go one and fifteen to get the quarterback
Speaker 1: in the draft. You have the guy and it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a week to week proposition with these rookie passers.
Speaker 1: Same thing with the Browns. We got the quarterback. Now
Speaker 1: let's figure out the rest. Uh. Let's take a break
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Speaker 1: With the call, Chandler Canna Zero kicked a fifty nine
Speaker 1: yard field goal virtual I sizzling, the longest ever in overtime,
Speaker 1: what with one fifty remaining in the extra period, giving
Speaker 1: the Bucks win over the Browns. Canna Zero cast away
Speaker 1: the goat horns after he pushed a forty yard would
Speaker 1: be game winner right in the final seconds of regulation. Mark.
Speaker 1: It was the fourth overtime game in seven weeks for
Speaker 1: the Browns. Uh and this one did not work out.
Speaker 1: It did not And if they have one more overtime
Speaker 1: it is they believe the three packers they would tie
Speaker 1: for the most in one season and you can feel
Speaker 1: that they will right. This is this This Browns team
Speaker 1: seems to veer towards these bizarre endings week after week.
Speaker 1: This was a tale of two teams where Cleveland's first
Speaker 1: half offense they looked as bad as they have ever looked.
Speaker 1: At the point where Nick Shook, fellow Browns fan and
Speaker 1: I were d m in each other just saying this
Speaker 1: is ghastly. It feels like major changes are coming from
Speaker 1: a coaching standpoint because they look that disorganized. They on
Speaker 1: the day had fourteen penalties for a hundred plus yards
Speaker 1: and penalty yardage, and the Bucks were getting the job
Speaker 1: done through the air with Jamis Winston all day long
Speaker 1: with big passing plays until overtime when Cleveland snuck in
Speaker 1: with that missed field goal by Captain Zero, who also
Speaker 1: missed an extra point in this game. You get you
Speaker 1: thought Cleveland had a chance because Jamis Winston utterly went
Speaker 1: to sleep in overtime. It's one of those it was.
Speaker 1: It was a section of play that had me Is
Speaker 1: concerned about Winston and Dan I know you were you
Speaker 1: were watching. It was an absolute mess, but they wound
Speaker 1: they wound up. Cleveland just couldn't seal the deal themselves,
Speaker 1: and yet I come out encouraged by yet another game
Speaker 1: that kind of makes me feel that whenever Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: is on the field, it is possible. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of young talent, but but there was too much disorganization
Speaker 1: from the Cleveland side. But same goes for the Bucks.
Speaker 1: This was like two coaching staffs that wanted to keep
Speaker 1: one up in each other with ill moves. It really
Speaker 1: was like Dirk Cutter it in overtime through the finals
Speaker 1: of our Hot Seats tournament. I think it might have
Speaker 1: been caught her through the red flag and overtime, which
Speaker 1: you're not allowed to do that. And I should have
Speaker 1: checked with John Price about this game before switching my
Speaker 1: lock from the Bucks to the Browns. Yeah, if you're
Speaker 1: not following social media, but you do listen to the podcast.
Speaker 1: Mark had Um curiously locked up the Bucks to beat
Speaker 1: his beloved beloved Browns and then had a change of
Speaker 1: heart over the weekend and and cleared it with us
Speaker 1: this morning to lock up the Browns. Uh, And it
Speaker 1: didn't work out. And it is a uniquely Sessler move
Speaker 1: to go from locking one team, which means you're more
Speaker 1: confident about that team than anybody else to actually locking
Speaker 1: up their opponent over the course of three days. I
Speaker 1: loved it, Mark, Well, I work out, but I love it.
Speaker 1: And you say, Lakisha does not care about this lock thing.
Speaker 1: I did a quick FaceTime with Simone and the kids
Speaker 1: and she was just like, why did you switch. She's like,
Speaker 1: you're overthinking this. Just stick with your original pick. And
Speaker 1: it's like, Simon, have a weekend of you just like
Speaker 1: laboring over the decision. No, no, no, I know that
Speaker 1: came on my own totally inspired self decision this morning.
Speaker 1: It didn't seem like you were laboring much on Saturday.
Speaker 1: It seemed like you were having fun. It was not
Speaker 1: labor to Bay Area up there in Wine Country, you wine,
Speaker 1: there was someone during this weekend. I mean, you're a
Speaker 1: hit on social media. Everyone should should follow the Instagram
Speaker 1: stories of Mark or just just live vicariously through him.
Speaker 1: But and even even social media today, like you were
Speaker 1: as down on the Browns in the first half of
Speaker 1: this game as as I've heard, you know what, certainly
Speaker 1: this year it was there then and then there they
Speaker 1: are forcing overtime and making a game of it. I
Speaker 1: had to say they were plus four of the Browns
Speaker 1: in the turnover battle, and the opposing quarterback in overtime
Speaker 1: was an absolute train wreck, taking horrible sacks, could not
Speaker 1: hit the broadside of a barn, a total mess, and
Speaker 1: somehow you you still lose. Uh. The Browns still have
Speaker 1: to figure out how to win some of these games,
Speaker 1: and and they're fun to watch, but they I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's coaching. I think it is. Jack Horse
Speaker 1: talk about that turnover differential from last year to this.
Speaker 1: The Browns are like plus they have like twenty turnovers
Speaker 1: right now, by far the most in the league. And
Speaker 1: they their record does not show that they their quarterback
Speaker 1: is getting killed because of awful offensive tackle play right now.
Speaker 1: And and Hugh Jackson is not a difference maker in
Speaker 1: a good way when he he after the game said
Speaker 1: he's thinking about taking more onus on directing the offense,
Speaker 1: which is just another huge Ackson way of deflecting blame.
Speaker 1: And I've had I've had this thought in my head
Speaker 1: for a while. I want to run it by you,
Speaker 1: just like Dan has this sort of what's maybe not
Speaker 1: the ideal but the understandable way to go through this
Speaker 1: season that you can feel good about and to me,
Speaker 1: if you're a Browns fan, it's I want to see
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield play as well as possible, and if they're
Speaker 1: not going to make the playoffs, I want to see
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson get fired. So that's kind of a weird
Speaker 1: thing to be rooting for. But I think ultimately long
Speaker 1: term that's gonna be best for the Browns and that
Speaker 1: that stinks this year. But I don't think he's a
Speaker 1: good coach. I think, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: want them to go six and make a change. He
Speaker 1: essentially came out and said, I'm not gonna sit here
Speaker 1: and watch the struggles on offense when my background is
Speaker 1: in offense. So to me that we know he has
Speaker 1: said it's Todd Haley's offense, he has said that I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keep my fingers off of it. And now this
Speaker 1: week sets up as whose offense? Is it gonna be
Speaker 1: the one thing that they They traded Carlos Hyde, which
Speaker 1: I like the depth. I don't like they keep dumping
Speaker 1: these veterans and getting rid of them. Nick Chub looks
Speaker 1: like the real deal. He's a great runner. I don't
Speaker 1: see an offense that's any better because you Jackson is
Speaker 1: not calling the place more preferable to last year, in
Speaker 1: the year before. And there's one, just one more annoying uh.
Speaker 1: Mark losing streaks stat attached to the Browns. They are
Speaker 1: now three years and ten days without a road win.
Speaker 1: Almost got one today, but still search How about those
Speaker 1: Bucks though? Three and three America's team. Let's move on
Speaker 1: first down and going from the gate, they give to Curley.
Speaker 1: He through the left side and into the end zone.
Speaker 1: Todd Curley does it again, ten straight games with a
Speaker 1: tochsdown that your boy West JB Long KSPN with a call.
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley scored three more touchdowns. My god, he's gonna
Speaker 1: set the record. Uh and Jared got through two touchdown
Speaker 1: passes as the Rams whipped up on the overwhelmed forty
Speaker 1: final score thirty nine to ten. The Rams are seven
Speaker 1: and oh four takeaways, a block punt, four sacks for
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, force fumble recovery. Mark this complete domination it is.
Speaker 1: And you look at this, and you look at every
Speaker 1: Rams game every week and say, thirty nine to ten,
Speaker 1: this offense, this offense, this offense today, at least in
Speaker 1: the first half, it was a showcase for the defense.
Speaker 1: They are so well coached, and the special teams that
Speaker 1: had a blocked punt at one point that triggered a
Speaker 1: safety to make a twelve nothing, which doesn't seem like
Speaker 1: a big play except it was another example that this
Speaker 1: Rams team has essentially no weakness if they stay healthy
Speaker 1: and I and I went into the week saying I
Speaker 1: thought it was my favorite coaching matchup because of Kyle Shanahan,
Speaker 1: and Kyle Shanahan learned basically that this is a week
Speaker 1: to week buzz saw. If you deal with the Rams,
Speaker 1: you you have got to find a way to essentially
Speaker 1: remove all their weapons on offense, and there's too much happening.
Speaker 1: And what happened on defense was they generated three first
Speaker 1: half turnovers. And unless you play get a perfect game
Speaker 1: against the Rams, you cannot. You're gonna shoot yourself in
Speaker 1: the foot. And this will happen week to week. We've
Speaker 1: compared teams to the eighty nine Niners in the past,
Speaker 1: where you die up these late Sunday affairs and you
Speaker 1: know it's over by halftime. That is this Rams team.
Speaker 1: I don't know who stops them. Well, you we we
Speaker 1: know that Kyle Shanahan is one of the brightest offensive
Speaker 1: minds and he's going up against a coaching staff. We
Speaker 1: have said on this podcast, Wade Phillips might be the
Speaker 1: best defensive coordinator in NFL history, Bones Fossil is maybe
Speaker 1: the best special teams coach in the NFL. And Sean McVeigh. Okay,
Speaker 1: and Sean McVeigh, to my mind, is the brightest offensive
Speaker 1: mind in the NFL today. That's what you're going up
Speaker 1: against every week when you face the Rams, and that
Speaker 1: a loaded roster on both sides. This is is this
Speaker 1: a potentially historic team? Are we talking? Do we feel
Speaker 1: that good about the Rams because it seems like all
Speaker 1: the ingredients are there for that type of season. It
Speaker 1: depends what you mean by historic, if you mean fifteen
Speaker 1: and one and and wins the Super Bowl and gets
Speaker 1: close sets the record. Sure, yeah, they have that chance,
Speaker 1: absolutely because it as much as yeah, they have a
Speaker 1: loaded roster and Aaron Donald had four sacks today in
Speaker 1: a in a game that's gonna help his defense. A
Speaker 1: Player of the Year candidacy at the end of the year.
Speaker 1: It's players like Robert Woods becoming a next level guy
Speaker 1: who you saw another team. You know, you saw him
Speaker 1: on the Bills. It wasn't that player when he was
Speaker 1: on the Bills, a guy like Corey Littleton who blocked
Speaker 1: blocked a punt today three or four on the year
Speaker 1: and lead the team and tackles and at two secs.
Speaker 1: So this is this is like the entire organization coming together,
Speaker 1: because it's also the front office who recognized that Corey
Speaker 1: Littleton could take this job, and Wade Phillips coaching him out.
Speaker 1: Trade Ogle three away, Littleton steps in, and it's like
Speaker 1: guys you never heard of suddenly turning to start. Those
Speaker 1: are huge decisions in the off season, and you say,
Speaker 1: this guy is good enough to start, Let's trade the
Speaker 1: expensive guy and put the money somewhere else. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: look at the States just looking better. And Bettere's got
Speaker 1: fired a couple of years ago, with a good job
Speaker 1: by ownership to keep him. You're attached to one of
Speaker 1: the more nightmarish coaches around. That can happen. That's not
Speaker 1: the case anymore. All right, here we go, ready next
Speaker 1: week home against the Packers. Packers, by the way the
Speaker 1: Desert people are putting them, they are how do I
Speaker 1: put this? The Desert people are are more down on
Speaker 1: the Packers. With Aaron Rodgers in the lineup than they've
Speaker 1: ever been for any other game. Said really, well, said,
Speaker 1: I still want to know what that means specifically, but
Speaker 1: I'll have to find out. Take long for you to
Speaker 1: find out. He already knows home against the Packers at
Speaker 1: the Saints home Seattle home versus Casey bye week, So
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go down the whole schedule, but that's
Speaker 1: what they need. The teams in the NFL and and
Speaker 1: the other two are are the Packers, and see how
Speaker 1: if they can get through that undefeated. They hit their
Speaker 1: bye week and eleven or oh, they got a real
Speaker 1: shot by at Detroit at Chicago against the Eagles. They'll
Speaker 1: be tested at Arizona home against that Arizona game that
Speaker 1: sticks out there. If you are Rams fan, just pray
Speaker 1: you're starting quarterback stays healthy. I just do not want
Speaker 1: to see Sean Manion running this offense, because I think
Speaker 1: that's the only weakness on the ring. Unless it was
Speaker 1: like today where you get the perfect Sean Manion game,
Speaker 1: played two entire series, didn't throw a path. Yeah, West,
Speaker 1: you and the Rams are the same, though, it's just hey, listen,
Speaker 1: one week at a time. I mean, they're actually going
Speaker 1: out there on a field and doing it. You know, West,
Speaker 1: this humility, I think what you've done is is arguably
Speaker 1: just as impression now and I think it's probably like
Speaker 1: if you can think of one way to show that
Speaker 1: you're better at your job than everyone else and that
Speaker 1: you know more, it's absolutely picking one game a week
Speaker 1: where you can that is a favorite that that's the
Speaker 1: way to do it. That is the ship. Like my
Speaker 1: record is a total reflection of the job I am
Speaker 1: doing providing analysis. I'm a three and four analysts right now,
Speaker 1: you are no think how hard it is. Honestly, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna Greg's being snarky, but I'm gonna turn it around. Mark,
Speaker 1: you're three and four. You're three and four on fourre
Speaker 1: it's hard to do it. Got seven in a row? Well, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's I'm just I'm just I'm with like,
Speaker 1: what's the actual accomplishment here? A coin coin could do
Speaker 1: better than us, especially since you could take favorites. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying it. I don't think it takes a whole
Speaker 1: lot of acumen to go seven and oh and in
Speaker 1: picking down I disagree. I've always is gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: call picking games is does not really show your acumen
Speaker 1: as far as picking one game. You are pretty proud
Speaker 1: of what you've done the West Quietly, secretly, I would
Speaker 1: say that that's why this is surprising, because West has
Speaker 1: been popping his chest out. No no no, no, no, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm way more offended by people who criticize my picks
Speaker 1: than I am proud of winning these boots. Like quit
Speaker 1: being any complicated and anyone who has a problem with
Speaker 1: it can pound sand come at me on Twitter. You
Speaker 1: be blocked in a heartbeat because you're adult and get
Speaker 1: dead ass wrong. It's a very complicated issue. Finally, Luck
Speaker 1: out of the shotgun was left on a far hatch,
Speaker 1: drops the throw, steps up. He's got time, throws at
Speaker 1: right side to all wide open Merlin Mack. He said,
Speaker 1: that's twenty He's at the fifteen touchdown touchdown Harlan Mack
Speaker 1: twenty nine yards away, and the Colts fleet thirteam like
Speaker 1: a Twilve for nothing. Matt Sailor, Jim Sorgey, Carolyn can
Speaker 1: Cults Radio Network, Andrew Luck through four touchdown passes, Marlon
Speaker 1: Mack and his first rushing touchdowns of the season. The
Speaker 1: Colts blowout the Pills thirties thirty seven to five. That
Speaker 1: ends a four game losing streak for the Colts. Greg
Speaker 1: the Bills have two wins because this is bad. This
Speaker 1: is real bad. It is so bad that I want
Speaker 1: to focus on the relevant team. And I don't think
Speaker 1: the Colts are out of it. You know. That's the
Speaker 1: West said the other day. This is a crazy division
Speaker 1: where I think nine wins is getting you into the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And it was great to see them put together a
Speaker 1: complete game. Andrew Luck only had to throw a twenty
Speaker 1: three times. He's still got four touched on Mark lyn
Speaker 1: Mac it's not just that he's back, it's that he's
Speaker 1: a better player than he was as a rookie. And
Speaker 1: this happens especially for late round picks from you know,
Speaker 1: a small school, learning a lot learned from Frank Gore, whatever,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, he is a different player. He looks
Speaker 1: like a very good player right now, and he adds
Speaker 1: a lot to that offense. T Y Hilton was back,
Speaker 1: caught all four of his targets. They were all short passes,
Speaker 1: but got a couple of touchdowns and it was nice
Speaker 1: to just see this team come together. I think they
Speaker 1: got a shot. People like to have their fun at
Speaker 1: Jim or you don't believe, Oh no, I do. They're
Speaker 1: they're fun. You can have your fun at Jim Murci's expense.
Speaker 1: But he said this about Marlon Mack before the year,
Speaker 1: that if he stayed healthy, he could be a fifteen
Speaker 1: hundred yard kind of back. I don't think there was
Speaker 1: ever a chance he was staying healthy with that workload.
Speaker 1: But but he can play well he had. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's still getting a big workload, so we'll see. He
Speaker 1: had twenty one touches today. The reason I took something
Speaker 1: from this game significant is that the Colts had two
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards at halftime on this Bill's defense.
Speaker 1: So I don't want to hear about Derrick Anderson or
Speaker 1: whatever the Bill's offense thinks. We know that they lost
Speaker 1: saw MC, but the Colts went up and down the
Speaker 1: field from minute one on these Bills. That's impressed. This
Speaker 1: balance is was so needed. And but we've seen the
Speaker 1: Colts operate on offense and get hot, and you do
Speaker 1: believe that they can come back. Their record is rough.
Speaker 1: I mean you can't. They can't pile up to any
Speaker 1: more losses. They need just to get on a streak here,
Speaker 1: but they're getting a lot of different guys. Look at
Speaker 1: Darius Leonard seventeen total tackles today. That seems like part
Speaker 1: for the I guess my my feeling, Greg is like, what,
Speaker 1: I didn't see this game? But what what? What do
Speaker 1: you learn from this game? You know that they were
Speaker 1: going to score points because the culture scoring points against everybody,
Speaker 1: and I would never have guessed they would put up
Speaker 1: Derek Anderson was was gonna be miserable. You knew that.
Speaker 1: But they didn't steak out of here twelve to five.
Speaker 1: They just put up thirty st learned a lot going
Speaker 1: into the week. The Bills had set down some pretty
Speaker 1: pretty bad offense, but they've done a good job even
Speaker 1: when they played good opponents. They were the number three
Speaker 1: defense in the league according to Football Outsiders in the
Speaker 1: first half, especially the fact that they came out immediately
Speaker 1: and put it on them and then just cruised. But also,
Speaker 1: if you're Buffalo, you lost of Shawn McCoy early and
Speaker 1: your your defense. How long can you ask this defense
Speaker 1: to overachieve When the offense cannot stay on the field
Speaker 1: and it continues to turn the ball over, Season's over.
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry but the bill seasons over and Lashawn McCoy,
Speaker 1: whether he's on the field or not, has not made
Speaker 1: an impact for them nobody. I mean, it's just that's
Speaker 1: a tough situation over there in Buffalo. This is a
Speaker 1: credit to Frank Reich and Chris Ballard and Andrew Luck.
Speaker 1: When's the last times her favorite type of frog? When's
Speaker 1: the last time you heard anyone talk about the Colts
Speaker 1: offensive line. Yeah, they're another factor in a very good way.
Speaker 1: That's what I mean when we talk about all the
Speaker 1: lucky ways that these games, and so many teams could
Speaker 1: have different records. So it's like, I just don't see
Speaker 1: them as any different than a lot of the three
Speaker 1: and four the four and three teams. To me, they're
Speaker 1: just the same, and they have a little more upside
Speaker 1: to get better because they have Andrew Luck. The best
Speaker 1: thing going in that division right now is Andrew Luck.
Speaker 1: And they get the Raiders next week in Oakland. But
Speaker 1: go win a football game and then home to the
Speaker 1: Jags and you might be catching them at the right
Speaker 1: time home to the Dolphins. Pretty nice set up for
Speaker 1: them to get at or near five hundred and then
Speaker 1: all bets are off in that division. All right, Mahomes
Speaker 1: open for the touchdown, Demitrius Harris. That was I mean,
Speaker 1: that's easy easy. Oh yeah, the Patrick Mahomes train rolls
Speaker 1: on showtime, baby, no box off not catching on. Four
Speaker 1: more touchdowns for the Chiefs. M VP front runner Cream
Speaker 1: Hunt added a hundred and forty one total yards and
Speaker 1: three touchdowns of his own. It wasn't even close. Chiefs
Speaker 1: over Bengals Sunday Night Football, that's right, Thursday Night Football,
Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football book and the last four days of action,
Speaker 1: both games so little puncture wound. Greg and the narrative
Speaker 1: that all the primetime games have been great this season,
Speaker 1: but you know what, when the Chiefs are at home
Speaker 1: in prime time, this talent level and the Cincinnati team
Speaker 1: that's not ready for prime time, this is what happens.
Speaker 1: Yikes there. I mean they're fun to watch, even in blowouts.
Speaker 1: And then you know, mid third quarter at late third quarter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but go go talk to go talk to your family, go, um,
Speaker 1: make meaningful connections. Write a letter to someone in prison,
Speaker 1: you know, do something with your life. Brandon Dascy, that's
Speaker 1: who I'm going to write a letter to. Gam I
Speaker 1: believe in you, Brandon All right. Patrick Mahomes is so
Speaker 1: reliable though in terms of like we all this seems
Speaker 1: normal now, We're just used to this. This is our normal.
Speaker 1: But if you had said before the season that he's
Speaker 1: just gonna show up, throw four touchdowns, make five highlight
Speaker 1: real plays every week, like it would have blown our
Speaker 1: minds even coming into this week. You shouldn't take it
Speaker 1: for granted that they're gonna blow a decent Bengals team
Speaker 1: out of the water. This to me said a lot
Speaker 1: that they were able to respond and just wax a
Speaker 1: totally capable team like the Bankers like that. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: the question was how on earth do the Chiefs get
Speaker 1: from here to the Super Bowl with their defense? And
Speaker 1: tonight they played a good offense and allowed ten points
Speaker 1: four point four yards per play while putting up five
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards of their own. And they have
Speaker 1: Denver Cleveland and the Arizona Cardinals up next, so we're
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to tell much about them in
Speaker 1: the next month. I think if if you see their
Speaker 1: defense play play well week after week, and I think
Speaker 1: they have shown signs over the last three or four
Speaker 1: weeks of getting better on defense. They've at least had
Speaker 1: some good performances, including this one tonight. I mean, we've
Speaker 1: talked up the Bengals offense quite a bit. If if
Speaker 1: they if they're giving up two hundred and fifty to
Speaker 1: three hundred yards a game and in double digit points,
Speaker 1: that's not that's pretty good. Great, And let's check back
Speaker 1: in December when they play against real competition. Cincinnati falls
Speaker 1: to four and three on the season, so they were
Speaker 1: a whisper away from five and one. Seven days later
Speaker 1: there four and three, the chief six and one, their
Speaker 1: three and oh at home. Uh and this team has
Speaker 1: all the makings of a team that's gonna go seven
Speaker 1: one or eight no at home and if they can
Speaker 1: get that home field advantage. I know they got bounced
Speaker 1: out in a home game in that building last year,
Speaker 1: but this is different. There's a different team with a
Speaker 1: different quarterback and a different vibe, but different field around
Speaker 1: this team. So uh yeah, the Bengals. This is not
Speaker 1: a pusher. This was not with the other time game
Speaker 1: that started this week. That was a team with loss
Speaker 1: at Sea, the Cardinals, And that's what happens with Cincinnati's
Speaker 1: a game. They'll probably bounce back and play well next
Speaker 1: week that you know, this is the type of team
Speaker 1: we're talking about, the Chiefs. They just kill teams that
Speaker 1: are not great. Anybody that's anybody that, let me rephrase that,
Speaker 1: any team that is not like an upper echelon team
Speaker 1: has a good chance to get steamrolled by this this
Speaker 1: Chiefs unit. But they have one of the best young
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in football, one of the best young running backs
Speaker 1: in football, one of the best young wide receivers in football,
Speaker 1: one of the best tight ends in football. But I
Speaker 1: think this said something about the Bengals. Oh, they're not
Speaker 1: a good defense. They'd provide no resistance lately that I
Speaker 1: don't think they're dominant enough on offense to survive that way.
Speaker 1: They were lucky to be in that game against Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: a week ago. I think they're two worst games of
Speaker 1: the season are their last two and the one before that.
Speaker 1: They were trailing seventeen nothing against the Dolphins before a
Speaker 1: couple of defensive touchdowns. Right now, like I we were talking,
Speaker 1: I think I have to It's like, I don't know
Speaker 1: if the Bengals have peaked already, but I'm much less
Speaker 1: high on them right now than than I was. And
Speaker 1: I definitely just look at the Ravens and Steelers, and
Speaker 1: I think now those two are better teams. So the
Speaker 1: Bengals are are quietly morphing into every other Bengals game
Speaker 1: we've covered as a group. It kind of evens out.
Speaker 1: You know what, I don't agree with you, guys. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm I'm wiping this one away. They almost beat Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: I still believe that Cincinnati could be a make noise
Speaker 1: in the a f C. But this is not a
Speaker 1: good game. I would just say that some of the
Speaker 1: some of the Bengals teams we've covered have gone eleven
Speaker 1: and five or twelve and four and found a way
Speaker 1: out of the playoffs. So it's just a bad team.
Speaker 1: But this team is fully capable of losing on the
Speaker 1: first Saturday of January. They are but giveing no I
Speaker 1: agree with that. Give me a little give me a
Speaker 1: little more than a hundred forty eight yards passing by
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton against the Chief. That's all I got you
Speaker 1: on that. Vante's perfect, by the way, UH caps a
Speaker 1: not a great uh last few days. He gets fined
Speaker 1: over a hundred grand. Uh gets killed in the media,
Speaker 1: rightfully so, for being a dirty player, and that suffers
Speaker 1: a hip hip injury before he's something the hip injury,
Speaker 1: missed a slew of tackles, played poorly, then got hurt
Speaker 1: outside of the injury, I think that's everything. That Vante's
Speaker 1: perfect once in a week, that's true. So maybe a
Speaker 1: good week until Sunday night. All right, there you go.
Speaker 1: That's it for UH tonight's podcast. Thank you to everybody
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Speaker 1: UH today, Happy birthday, Happy birthday. Yes the Jets could
Speaker 1: not get year old. Yeah, probably still rule out of
Speaker 1: bed and hit seven softball. He's and a new knee,
Speaker 1: so he might be making a return to soft all
Speaker 1: of my My mom would probably step step in and
Speaker 1: say no, you can't, but I'm not gonna put anything
Speaker 1: past Keith with a new bionic knee. So happy birthday, Dad,
Speaker 1: love you. Um that's it. This is Dan Hansons signing
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