Speaker 1: And keeps floats right oprim touchdown Texans. Jordan Thomas pass
Speaker 1: Anondola double pass receiver is O from that's trait for
Speaker 1: the touchdown. Watson standing back there alone and speaking of alone,
Speaker 1: Arris Hopkins Hopkins touchdown. Oh, the Houston Texans are coming on.
Speaker 1: Dan hands is here the Around the NFL podcast right
Speaker 1: in solo here. Uh, gonna throw it to me and
Speaker 1: the rest of the boys previewing all the Week nine
Speaker 1: games in just a few minutes. But we're gonna start
Speaker 1: with Thursday Night Football. A forty two to twenty three
Speaker 1: win for the Houston Texans, and it could not have
Speaker 1: been more impressive, especially on the offensive side of the
Speaker 1: ball for Houston. Deshaun Watson playing one of his best
Speaker 1: games as a pro, maybe his best game as a pro. Uh,
Speaker 1: complete sixteen of twenty passes, two thirty nine, five touchdowns, turnovers,
Speaker 1: a pass rating of one fifty six. He had here's
Speaker 1: a stat here's a good statue, like for your quarterback,
Speaker 1: had more touchdown passes than in completions. The Dolphins really
Speaker 1: had no answer for Watson, and that is um my
Speaker 1: big takeaway from this game is that Watson blew out
Speaker 1: his a c L during a practice on November two
Speaker 1: of last year. So we're coming up on the one
Speaker 1: year anniversary. Uh, this is the first time where I
Speaker 1: was watching him play and I thought to myself, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is the guy. Uh. His college coach called him
Speaker 1: that the next MJ or I guess, the first MJ
Speaker 1: in in football. So weird, you know, it's a weird thing. Um,
Speaker 1: And this this Shaun Watson, this version is the guy
Speaker 1: that took the league by storm last year. His ability
Speaker 1: to to keep plays lives with his legs. Uh, he
Speaker 1: had a couple of big scrambles in this game. Um,
Speaker 1: just one big scramble about fourteen yards and it was
Speaker 1: a big conversion. And uh he kept numerous plays alive
Speaker 1: with his feet, including some of his touchdown passes. Watson
Speaker 1: played tremendously well in this game, and the Texans left
Speaker 1: for dead at oh and three. And statistically, in history
Speaker 1: is instructive. Usually it owned three team, it's all over.
Speaker 1: But here we are five wins in a row. They
Speaker 1: have control of the a f C South. And I
Speaker 1: know they've had issues with the Patriots historically, um, especially
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, but guess what when you look at
Speaker 1: the a f C playoff picture. I think it's time
Speaker 1: to take the Texans seriously because I think they are
Speaker 1: not at New England's level, not at Kansas c Citi's level.
Speaker 1: But I think it's they are getting to that point
Speaker 1: where you gotta put him right up there with the Pittsburgh's,
Speaker 1: the Baltimore is. And you could say, yes, well, you know,
Speaker 1: they beat up on the Dolphins at home and the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Let's be serious about the Dolphins here. Uh they started
Speaker 1: three and oh and they've lost four or five and
Speaker 1: they look like a very mediocre to poor football team.
Speaker 1: So you gotta keep that in perspective. But I just
Speaker 1: think that this is a Texans team that this is
Speaker 1: when we talked about going into the season, that they
Speaker 1: had a high ceiling and a low floor and and
Speaker 1: and you saw the beginning of the season, you thought
Speaker 1: it was going one way. Now it's going the other
Speaker 1: because if Watson is all the way back, Lamar Miller,
Speaker 1: I've been waiting for this Lamar Miller revenge game against
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins. I've been championing Lamar Miller for years.
Speaker 1: It didn't really work out for me, but it did
Speaker 1: on this Thursday, night because he plays his former team
Speaker 1: and goes eighteen for one thirty three in a touch Uh.
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins is his numbers won't jump out at you
Speaker 1: six Rady two, but he scored two touchdowns. Uh. And
Speaker 1: the one catch that he didn't get credited with was
Speaker 1: one of the best catches you'll ever see, got wiped
Speaker 1: out by an offensive penalty. But his ability, to his
Speaker 1: ability concentration, balance, speed and power. Uh. I don't think
Speaker 1: there's any other wide receiver in football that's like him.
Speaker 1: He's truly unique. And you can't give a bigger compliment
Speaker 1: than that to tow Nuke. So he I mean, he
Speaker 1: was unbelievable. He makes He's got the best hands I
Speaker 1: think since Chris Carter in my opinion. Um, and he
Speaker 1: puts it all together and he is a scary talent.
Speaker 1: Him Deshaun Watson. After years of Hopkins dealing with one
Speaker 1: Hammon Egger after another as his quarterback, him and Watson
Speaker 1: as a team going forward is a scary good thought.
Speaker 1: Will Fuller, by the way, a drafting a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago, who was supposed to be the guy you
Speaker 1: lined up on the other side that would compliment Hopkins well,
Speaker 1: he looked just like the guy they need him to
Speaker 1: be in this game five for in a touch So
Speaker 1: you can't say enough about how this team looks on offense.
Speaker 1: UM J J. Watt had another sack in this game,
Speaker 1: very active, especially early. The defense, opportunistic making place. They
Speaker 1: could have been credited with a defensive touchdown at the
Speaker 1: end of the first half it got called back it
Speaker 1: uh and then there they would have been approaching a
Speaker 1: fifty burger. So this was a total effort. And Uh.
Speaker 1: Again the Dolphins they are who we thought they were.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people have three and note
Speaker 1: were buying in and the Dolphins are not very good. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I know brock Oswiler is not a great quarterback,
Speaker 1: but how much better is? How much better is Ryan Townehill?
Speaker 1: I don't know, you can tell me. I think it
Speaker 1: might not be that big and upgrade. I don't think
Speaker 1: the an f C East has ever been in worse
Speaker 1: shape than it is right now. Outside of the Patriots.
Speaker 1: I think the Patriots can win eight games maybe this
Speaker 1: year and win that division, but they'll win thirteen because
Speaker 1: that's what they do. So the Dolphins have fallen back
Speaker 1: to earth. Their best chance here is to hang around
Speaker 1: and maybe be in contention for that sixth wild card spot,
Speaker 1: but I don't see it happening. Um. So a big
Speaker 1: win for the Dolphins and for the Texans. And one
Speaker 1: last note on this game. Uh, the third quarter was wild.
Speaker 1: I I texted the boys, uh that this game was
Speaker 1: sneaky great because it was you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: back and forth fun on a Thursday night between two teams.
Speaker 1: Maybe you didn't expect to be enjoying yourself watching the game,
Speaker 1: and I did quite a bit this game. Greg had
Speaker 1: a great response and and and reply on texts. He said,
Speaker 1: the third quarter has been drunk. And it was the
Speaker 1: Danny Amadola beautiful pass on a trick played by the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: the new catch that I talked about that got called back,
Speaker 1: one of the great circus catches. You'll see Davante Parker,
Speaker 1: who finally showed up for the Dolphins. Maybe he'll get
Speaker 1: a trade before Tuesday. Uh. He had a crazy catch
Speaker 1: on a deflection. Will Fuller had a long touchdown. And
Speaker 1: then the quarter ends with a just onside kick uh
Speaker 1: from the Dolphins that did not work and was really
Speaker 1: their last gasp. I think Adam Gates saw the writing
Speaker 1: on the wall and knew this team wasn't gonna stop anybody.
Speaker 1: So there you go. That is uh Thursday Night Football
Speaker 1: forty two, twenty three for the Texans who are alive
Speaker 1: and well. Now to the rest of Week eight. The
Speaker 1: preview begins. Now be Around the NFL Podcast, Too Many Sandys.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansens, and I am joined in
Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and
Speaker 1: Greg roseatal What is up, boys, Hey day, Thursday. We
Speaker 1: are here. I don't even have memories of my house
Speaker 1: at this point. During these weeks, we are here so often.
Speaker 1: All I the only thing that I really remember from
Speaker 1: this entire autumn is just sitting here staring at the
Speaker 1: three of you. You sound so excited about. No, it's
Speaker 1: not a bad or a good thing, but it's just
Speaker 1: it is. It feels we are I'm always sitting in this.
Speaker 1: So this is the week eight preview, so we're in.
Speaker 1: We're in it right now. We talked about this last
Speaker 1: week too. We'll talk about it probably next Thursday as well,
Speaker 1: but by Thursday, it's a it's a long week. It
Speaker 1: feels like the end of a journey. Uh And I
Speaker 1: actually was thinking about it. On yesterday's show. I pitched
Speaker 1: the idea of all the GM's getting on a subreddit
Speaker 1: or wes you and I were gonna launch an app,
Speaker 1: maybe charge like I don't know, eight ninety nine a
Speaker 1: month or something. I feel like gms can afford to
Speaker 1: pay more than that. I mean, we are saving them
Speaker 1: from making bad trades and not capitalizing on the you know,
Speaker 1: sort of the values that they have. So I feel
Speaker 1: like we well, we're off. I mean, make the app
Speaker 1: first before we start with, you know, the little good idea.
Speaker 1: I have an even better idea for today's show. We're
Speaker 1: gonna have to get somebody with like a just you know,
Speaker 1: a modicum of math, since we'll find involved because neither
Speaker 1: of us have man we'll get We'll cut them in
Speaker 1: just a little bit. I have an even better idea today. Okay, um,
Speaker 1: the hi Greg all right, waiting for this idea. The
Speaker 1: Eagles and Jaguars playing in London. That's the first game
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about, by the way, Um, well, the
Speaker 1: second game you just heard, of course our Dolphins Texans recap.
Speaker 1: That was great, But the first game we're gonna preview
Speaker 1: is Eagles Jags. The call of the game is gonna
Speaker 1: come from NFL network stalwarts such as Rich Eyes and
Speaker 1: Mooch Irvin and Kurt Warner, all in the booth fore
Speaker 1: Man booth. We went to London last year. We're gonna
Speaker 1: go to London next year. God willing, God save the Queen.
Speaker 1: Why don't we call a game the four of us?
Speaker 1: And I'm not even remotely kidding. We call a game
Speaker 1: next year in London during the London Series. I love it.
Speaker 1: I'm fine if no one's even recording it while we
Speaker 1: do it. We just do it the four of us.
Speaker 1: Just it could be a supplemental thing where people can
Speaker 1: choose this feed in game pass or something. Who would
Speaker 1: be the play by play person? I would be terrible
Speaker 1: at that. We would be able to do anything we want.
Speaker 1: This would be like the platform would been like some
Speaker 1: kind of streaming service or something. I don't think like
Speaker 1: Fox is putting us on. Maybe put it on the app,
Speaker 1: but on the app the GM, so only NFL gms
Speaker 1: will be able to witness this, don't the We'll open
Speaker 1: it up. We'll have a temporary window, a keyhole if
Speaker 1: you will. I'm making up jargon in that industry now
Speaker 1: that will allow people to flood the app for a temporary,
Speaker 1: um period. We need Greg Greg out there on that
Speaker 1: boogermobile that we discussed on the Twitter. Greg's definitely on
Speaker 1: the Boogermo down with that guy. So the defensive line
Speaker 1: analysis that your sports is there at Wembley this Sunday
Speaker 1: and that was there last Sunday, So who knows. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's not that crazy of a notion. Well, isn't the
Speaker 1: n b A. I believe the starters did this in
Speaker 1: a preseason n b A. I'm not joking. I agree
Speaker 1: with Erica. Could be like part there for halftime. So
Speaker 1: maybe we'll start another movement. Once upon a time, we
Speaker 1: had a hashtag onto London movement and I think it
Speaker 1: involves sending pennies to Roger Goodell via postcards. Strange and
Speaker 1: I was about what four years ago. Yeah, um, so
Speaker 1: stay tuned. Maybe we'll come up with an idea. Uh,
Speaker 1: we might not even launch it till the spring or
Speaker 1: the summer because you want to kind of build toward it,
Speaker 1: and right now is obviously the worst time to do
Speaker 1: it because it's not gonna happen this year, but put
Speaker 1: us in a booth for one of the three plus
Speaker 1: games next year. Not kidding, Greg, not a bit. This
Speaker 1: is not a bit. I mean, if if they're allowing
Speaker 1: you know, Rich eyes In and Steve Mariucci and those
Speaker 1: guys to do it as kind of like a crowning
Speaker 1: achievement of their NFL Networks career, it feels like we're
Speaker 1: up next, right, Well, we're way more popular over there
Speaker 1: than those guys, are you sure? Yeah? For sure? I
Speaker 1: mean that may not be, but I didn't go we
Speaker 1: want to take here with you. But it's not. This
Speaker 1: is just stopped playing over it's playing here, it's playing
Speaker 1: in the United States, right, Well is it playing there too?
Speaker 1: Then who's calling the game over there? Maybe they do
Speaker 1: just take that the feed, that's true, you're right, you're right,
Speaker 1: they just take the feed absolutely well they can in
Speaker 1: the US. It's good. They don't like us over here.
Speaker 1: This building is not a fan of our show, but
Speaker 1: like they're not going to use us here, But in
Speaker 1: the UK they can use us. I think there's a
Speaker 1: clear channel for that to happen, a clear pathway for
Speaker 1: that to happen. Right there, you go that's that's my
Speaker 1: second idea of the week that I really think is
Speaker 1: a home run. All Right, we got a lot of
Speaker 1: games to get to, uh four teams on by Chargers, Cowboys, Falcons, Titans,
Speaker 1: but a lot to get to. So let's start with
Speaker 1: the London game. The Philadelphia Eagles are coming off a
Speaker 1: really really tough loss um in weeks seven and now
Speaker 1: there their reward after did you unplug me? What are
Speaker 1: you doing over there? Greg Grog? What did you do? Grog?
Speaker 1: Now what? We're off to a rollicking star on this
Speaker 1: Thursday night anyway. So yes, the Eagles, UH tough loss,
Speaker 1: one of the worst losses, probably the worst loss of
Speaker 1: the Doug Peterson era. UH seventeen nothing uh fourth quarter
Speaker 1: lead against the Panthers they lose at home seventeen. Now
Speaker 1: they go to London to face the Jaguars, who are
Speaker 1: in a free fall as we know, lost losers of
Speaker 1: four or five. Mark Blake Bortles gets the start on
Speaker 1: a short least according to his head coach, you're gonna
Speaker 1: you're gonna see a Blake Bortles with his back against
Speaker 1: the wall, dominant effort overseas. I like that he said
Speaker 1: that he was totally at peace with being the scapegoat
Speaker 1: for all of Jacksonsville's Jacksonville's issues, but a lot of
Speaker 1: times the scapegoat suggests that you aren't really the fault,
Speaker 1: the reason for the issues. But he absolutely is part
Speaker 1: of the pie that is an distasteful, uh treat right
Speaker 1: now in Jacksonville, a team I don't enjoy watching at
Speaker 1: the moment. I just simply trust the Eagles more. If
Speaker 1: you watch that Carolina Panthers game. They melted in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, but they really controlled that game for forty
Speaker 1: six forty seven minutes, and I really blame the secondary
Speaker 1: down the stretch for what Cam Newton and the Panthers
Speaker 1: did in the final really basically eight minutes of that
Speaker 1: game or so. The Eagles, to me have a m
Speaker 1: v P level quarterback, and Carson Wentz playing as good
Speaker 1: as he's ever played. He's statistically so much better right
Speaker 1: now than he was at the start of the season.
Speaker 1: He looks completely healthy. The Jaguars feel one quarterback switch
Speaker 1: away from total chaos again. They're in free fall. I
Speaker 1: think they're in total chaos. They are in total chaos,
Speaker 1: and I am in a bad situation right now personally,
Speaker 1: with this contest that we have, and I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: lock up the Eagles right now. I don't care what
Speaker 1: anyone thinks they're the road team. That's two with the
Speaker 1: Eagles because Greg already locked him. I locked it up
Speaker 1: two weeks ago. Yeah, so we're I'm just riding Greg's coat.
Speaker 1: I had to tell you, guys, I'm locking up the
Speaker 1: Eagles too. All right, Okay, I'm gonna I'm actually gonna
Speaker 1: unlock it now, because what's the point of unlock it? Yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: I'll pick another one. It just seems like, what's the
Speaker 1: point then, why don't all four of us I'm not
Speaker 1: I just pivot. Why not? You can pivot if you want.
Speaker 1: I'll pick another game. All right, So you're unlocking. You
Speaker 1: have an unlock drop. Greg is back on the acid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like, I feel like, what's the
Speaker 1: point of three of us have the same lock. It's like, um,
Speaker 1: it doesn't it doesn't matter. It's fine if you lock it.
Speaker 1: But the Eagles are a team that haven't shown to
Speaker 1: be any good. I've been locking them semi permanently, just
Speaker 1: as hope. At no point in the season have they
Speaker 1: been anything but mediocre. They are actually ranked lower than
Speaker 1: Jacksonville in efficiency in d v o A, They're around twenty,
Speaker 1: which makes sense. They're about a slightly below average offense,
Speaker 1: is slightly above average defense. Everything that I believe that
Speaker 1: they can be as basically just been hope because they
Speaker 1: look at the roster and think it all will come together,
Speaker 1: and it should this week against you know, a lousy
Speaker 1: Jaguars offense. But it's like, let's start seeing it there.
Speaker 1: It's funny because all of that is true, but teams
Speaker 1: are still using the Eagles as a measuring stick. There's
Speaker 1: still a statement win opponent, even though they're not that good.
Speaker 1: They they one big difference between this year and last
Speaker 1: is Jason Peters. Like they have a problem at left tackle,
Speaker 1: whereas usually when he's healthy at least and he was
Speaker 1: injured obviously for part of last year two. You know,
Speaker 1: that's a huge asset. So that's a big change. And
Speaker 1: this week you're going up against Yannick Andakway and whoever
Speaker 1: else they want to line up over there, and that's
Speaker 1: a problem. But the Jags front seven is getting pushed
Speaker 1: around and run defense. I think you can run on
Speaker 1: this team now. They are they are ranked and run defense.
Speaker 1: In fact, the Jaguars they're weird team statistically because they're
Speaker 1: ranked second overall and total defense first against the past,
Speaker 1: but they're getting killed in the run and they are
Speaker 1: tied for thirty in the NFL. And turnovers, they are
Speaker 1: not turning the ball over, and when you combine that
Speaker 1: with how often their quarterback turns the ball over, that's
Speaker 1: been a big part of their problems field position and
Speaker 1: game changing plays. Also, when we look at like d
Speaker 1: V O A and that stuff, I get that that's
Speaker 1: over the course of the whole season, that maybe Jacksonville
Speaker 1: ranks higher than than Philadelphia, But there's there's segments to
Speaker 1: the season. In the last three weeks for the Jaguars,
Speaker 1: they have been a hideous team on defense, absolutely a nightmare. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's more that the Eagles point that I that I'm stressing.
Speaker 1: They had that one game against the Giants, but other
Speaker 1: than that, it's six weeks of basically mediocre results. Even
Speaker 1: their wins against the will lock him up again because
Speaker 1: I liked them. I just like picking a team that I,
Speaker 1: you know, I want to root for and I think
Speaker 1: should get better at some point, and you know they're
Speaker 1: they're I think they're a better team than the Eagle.
Speaker 1: I've been expecting them to come around, but there's been
Speaker 1: no evidence that that they've I mean, they killed the Giants,
Speaker 1: and the Giants stink, and they were great for three quarters,
Speaker 1: especially on defense um last week, and then it just crumbled.
Speaker 1: I still I still feel like they're gonna be okay.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's why why I feel confident this week.
Speaker 1: But probably they may never. They just will never be
Speaker 1: last year's offense, which was just built differently than the
Speaker 1: two things is that Number One, we forgot a big
Speaker 1: item of news on Wednesday's show, which is Derek Barnett
Speaker 1: is out for the season, which is one of the
Speaker 1: biggest surprises and biggest items of news I think all year,
Speaker 1: I mean all week rather because he's been a huge
Speaker 1: part they they're good because of their defensive end UH rotation.
Speaker 1: And then the other thing I'd say is this is
Speaker 1: usually where Blake Bortles pull something out of his butt.
Speaker 1: It's like the very moment where it seems like they're
Speaker 1: absolutely ready to give up. I think I don't want
Speaker 1: to lock him, but I don't want to lock the
Speaker 1: Eagles for that very reason. This is the Blake boardles.
Speaker 1: This is where he wants to be. I think now
Speaker 1: I would need it. They gotta move on. The Baltimore
Speaker 1: Ravens are up. They lost three. Heartbreak my boy, Justin
Speaker 1: Tucker Sweet Justin missed that extra point. But he's ready
Speaker 1: to bounce back. And he's traveling to Charlotte with his teammates.
Speaker 1: Just still love him to face the Panthers, who we
Speaker 1: just talked about that great comeback win. Um West. This
Speaker 1: is Cam Newton versus the Ravens Number one defense. Is
Speaker 1: Cam Newton physically Okay, he's gonna play, but there's a
Speaker 1: shoulder issue here. Yeah. Ron Rivera said he has no
Speaker 1: doubt that Cam Newton's gonna play. I don't think this
Speaker 1: is like a major, major injury. Uh. It sounds like
Speaker 1: something he can manage. And I think Cam, I don't
Speaker 1: know if we're gonna see six completion rate all year,
Speaker 1: but I do think we're seeing a different Cam working
Speaker 1: with North Turner, and he's reached like that final fourth
Speaker 1: stage of quarter backing where you are able to manipulate
Speaker 1: the defense before the snap, or you're able to read
Speaker 1: the defense and adjust accordingly. And I think he's doing
Speaker 1: way more of that this year. Um, this is a
Speaker 1: stiff test, just like it was a stiff tough for
Speaker 1: the Saints defense last year or offense last week. The
Speaker 1: Ravens defense is very good and I think this has
Speaker 1: to be one of the most even matchups of the week.
Speaker 1: For some reason, I think the Ravens are like just
Speaker 1: slightly better than the Panthers. You gonna lock it up? No,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like. I don't like locking up
Speaker 1: a road team. We have history on the line. West
Speaker 1: with seven straight locks to start the season could be
Speaker 1: juicy have the record to himself if he can lock
Speaker 1: up a week eight ball game. There's a lot of similarities,
Speaker 1: but not stylistically, but that Cam Newton and Joe Flacco,
Speaker 1: who are two guys that I think of, especially last
Speaker 1: year as the most up and down quarterbacks this in
Speaker 1: the in the league, have been very steady and I
Speaker 1: think that's really helped the Ravens. And you kind of
Speaker 1: know what you're getting out of Flacco every week, and
Speaker 1: for the most part, you know what you're getting out
Speaker 1: of Cam Newton every week. And that's a change for
Speaker 1: those two. That is one of the most drastic changes
Speaker 1: of any quarterback. Because Cam has been so up and
Speaker 1: down with his mechanics. I can come up with ways
Speaker 1: why this is how the Saints could get past Baltimore's
Speaker 1: defense last week a lot of different ways. But with
Speaker 1: with this Panther's offense, I just don't see a lot
Speaker 1: of opportunities for explosive plays that there's not a huge
Speaker 1: downfield element to their passing game. And really they're gonna
Speaker 1: have to find a way to run the ball, and
Speaker 1: they one of the running like results haven't been as
Speaker 1: good the past two weeks, but they've been buried into
Speaker 1: seventeen nothing holes that had a lot to do with it.
Speaker 1: They need more though, they what secondary receiver is gonna
Speaker 1: step up for the pan right? They need DJ and
Speaker 1: more DJ more and Curtis Samuel. Like everyone assumes Greg
Speaker 1: Alson's back in the lineup, here we go. He's the
Speaker 1: key guy. He's moving, he's not. He's moving like a
Speaker 1: guy who's about ready to retire, and it's coming off
Speaker 1: a major injury. That's how he's moving right now. Looks
Speaker 1: like himself and and so I don't know what that means,
Speaker 1: but they could they could use him to be the
Speaker 1: second well his his foot is held together by taping
Speaker 1: staples at this point, so that's problematic. The Ravens could
Speaker 1: really use a running game, though. There was a quote
Speaker 1: by the whoever was announcing last game. The play by
Speaker 1: play guy at one point said like, Alex Collins, you know,
Speaker 1: running violently but not getting very far on second down.
Speaker 1: And I thought, like, that's a nice way to sum
Speaker 1: up Alex Collins in general, like he's always running really
Speaker 1: hard and a lot of crazy things are happening, and
Speaker 1: then it's like he's averaging three point But did you
Speaker 1: know that he did some Irish step dancing to work
Speaker 1: on his foot work. Apparently that goes all the way
Speaker 1: back there high school? That was that was last season's
Speaker 1: trope everywhere they need Kenneth Dickson to come back. Were
Speaker 1: you aware that would help? I was aware. I'm now
Speaker 1: looking trying to figure out, like which games are the
Speaker 1: main point of the lock competition. I think for me
Speaker 1: at this point is just to avoid scorn when I
Speaker 1: make the pick. So let's go with the Ravens on
Speaker 1: the road. That's like the I mean, it'd be nice
Speaker 1: to get it right, but let's go with the Ravens
Speaker 1: on the road. Why not that sounds like a guy
Speaker 1: speak you protecting yourself. Now you can get it wrong.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, I wasn't really even know I'm trying
Speaker 1: to get I I think the Ravens are gonna win,
Speaker 1: and I'm absolutely gonna pick them, uh to win. And
Speaker 1: it's a it's a coin flip game, as West said,
Speaker 1: So it's a good one to go with you. There
Speaker 1: is an element of that at play with the locks,
Speaker 1: where you've got to somehow figure out how to pick
Speaker 1: a lock that everyone's not going to frown on verbally
Speaker 1: for fourteen minutes after you make your pick. I try
Speaker 1: to that's also true. But I try to pick games
Speaker 1: they don't look like they're gonna go down to the
Speaker 1: final minute. And this one, to me, looks like it's
Speaker 1: going down to the final minute. Uh, so you lock
Speaker 1: it up? Yeah, lock it up. Certainly you look in
Speaker 1: the mirror there and you like, yeah, you like what's
Speaker 1: looking back at you. I mean, only if it's right.
Speaker 1: I guess. Moving on. The team of around the NFL
Speaker 1: is coming out of there by, come out of there by,
Speaker 1: and uh lose two games. Uh you know, they get
Speaker 1: beat by the Dolphins, which just looks worse and worse. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then uh, they go back and forth of the
Speaker 1: path but can't keep up at the end of the
Speaker 1: day lose by touchdown at home. Uh. Now they have
Speaker 1: a chance to get back on track against the Jets
Speaker 1: at home. A Jets team, uh, Greg that's brutally beat
Speaker 1: up right now. And now the latest injury is Bilal
Speaker 1: Pal who's out for the year with next surgery. Robby
Speaker 1: Edison hurt his ankle, and practice, there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of special teams players on the Jets offense trying
Speaker 1: to catch passes this week. This seems like a really
Speaker 1: good setup for the Bears, a cruise scenario. I mean,
Speaker 1: a three and three Bears team probably shouldn't be looking
Speaker 1: past anyone. But you're right that I do think that
Speaker 1: the Jets are gonna recede further into the meaningful games
Speaker 1: this season, whereas the Bears I think are gonna stick around.
Speaker 1: But they have to be worried about Khalil mac being
Speaker 1: so quiet the last two weeks. They're kind of not
Speaker 1: the same team when Khalil Mack is quiet or not,
Speaker 1: like he has not helped them playing her assuming that's
Speaker 1: what he's doing. The last two weeks, which makes me think,
Speaker 1: can Leonard Floyd Shilpin makes him play because this is
Speaker 1: what he was drafted to do. Is this what their
Speaker 1: defense would have looked like if they didn't trade for
Speaker 1: Cleo mac Right, they're just gonna because Okay, you know,
Speaker 1: after watching the game, they played fine against the Patriots.
Speaker 1: The defense gave up twenty four points. They did for
Speaker 1: some funts, you're playing a really good offense. It wasn't.
Speaker 1: But it just wasn't like a difference making defense, and
Speaker 1: that's what we thought they might be. If you're a
Speaker 1: Jets fan and well, Dan, you can tell me if
Speaker 1: you disagree. I thought the first quarter against the Vikings
Speaker 1: and that's not a long segment of time, but they
Speaker 1: really really hung around and played well, and then it
Speaker 1: then they just completely Their offense is so beaten up
Speaker 1: that it's it's it's the one of the most inconsistent
Speaker 1: offenses in the league because it's just a bunch of
Speaker 1: jabronies out there like you. It's it's guys you've never
Speaker 1: even heard of, trying to catch like screen passes from
Speaker 1: Sam Donald. This is the case of a Vikings team
Speaker 1: just being much more talented and kind of overwhelming their
Speaker 1: opponent as as the game went on. I'm really nervous
Speaker 1: about um, Sam Donald's progression here as he goes through
Speaker 1: his rookie year, because, um, I don't know how he's
Speaker 1: gonna be able to if this is a situation where
Speaker 1: he doesn't have anybody to throw to and and the
Speaker 1: blocking is not good and they're gonna be playing from behind.
Speaker 1: I just don't want him to get hurt. And I
Speaker 1: don't want him to have a season where he throws
Speaker 1: twenty eight interceptions and um really, through no fault of
Speaker 1: his or even Todd Bowles. I don't like the direction
Speaker 1: the season is heading. Uh, and I don't like how
Speaker 1: this game feels at all. I agree because I think
Speaker 1: the Bears are due to turn around. But if you're
Speaker 1: the Jets, you're hoping you get a little healthier in
Speaker 1: the secondary, and you hope Mitchell Trabinsky gets a little less.
Speaker 1: He's been very lucky. No one has a better ratio
Speaker 1: of like solid looking stats to not playing very well
Speaker 1: than Trabinsky, who has had a bunch of interceptions drop
Speaker 1: his hand, right, Yeah that's fair, And like when Trabinsky misses,
Speaker 1: this is what worries me when Trabinsky misses. He misses
Speaker 1: by like fifteen yards, and this is the guy who's
Speaker 1: supposed to be accurate, and maybe it's it's more down
Speaker 1: the field throw, but it's like he misses by a
Speaker 1: ton and he had I don't know where Alan Robinson
Speaker 1: has been that was supposed to be there one receiver
Speaker 1: right now. I think he's fourth on a team and receiving.
Speaker 1: Matt Neeggie addressed that, and you can either believe him
Speaker 1: or you don't, but he says, Mitch is doing that
Speaker 1: at my instruction when the play isn't there. I've instructed
Speaker 1: him to throw it away and not come close to
Speaker 1: the play. So that's what terms of missing the throws. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I said, if the throw isn't there, if it's tight coverage,
Speaker 1: or if if it's not there, throw it, don't throw
Speaker 1: it that close. I still don't see a quarterback that like,
Speaker 1: I don't know from. I don't want to build an
Speaker 1: offense around a scrambling quarterback, and I don't see a
Speaker 1: guy that's like a pinpoint passer at all. Let's move
Speaker 1: on to Tampa Bay Buccaneers three and three coming off
Speaker 1: that three point went over the Browns in overtime, travel
Speaker 1: to Cincinnati to face the Bungles, who got humbled UH
Speaker 1: at Arrowhead, a really dreadful Sunday night loss. Greg will
Speaker 1: the excuse me, Mark Will? The Bengals bounce back uh
Speaker 1: from being blown out and as Tampa the exact right
Speaker 1: team you want in the building. I don't know how
Speaker 1: the Bengals talk about looking at yourself in the mirror.
Speaker 1: If they all here at home to Tampa Bay. Then
Speaker 1: suddenly sort of everything that I thought about Cincinnati before
Speaker 1: the Chiefs game, the wheels come off of all those
Speaker 1: all those pretty things that I thought Cincinnati could be
Speaker 1: the season because they're just another team at that point.
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay obviously played. They played awfully and overtime against Cleveland,
Speaker 1: but Jamis Winston in the their passing game can damage people,
Speaker 1: and they were really potent for most of that game
Speaker 1: against Cleveland and tail overtime. The one guy that's vanished
Speaker 1: entirely and didn't have a catch in regulation was to
Speaker 1: Sean Jackson. And yesterday when we were dealing with that
Speaker 1: computerized minkstress bridget, I was going to suggest that we
Speaker 1: have DeShawn Jackson as trade bait to maybe a team
Speaker 1: like the Jets or a team like the Texans that
Speaker 1: could use someone else in their game. He's not Winston.
Speaker 1: This has they forgot to bring it up because of
Speaker 1: your blind rage or what what happened? Well, was it
Speaker 1: my third option and I we didn't. We didn't cycle.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Currently like a half game behind the Bengals.
Speaker 1: I don't think they should be trading people. They should
Speaker 1: be trying to go to the I just it's just
Speaker 1: the one thing that I feel like NFL dot Com
Speaker 1: has written like six thousand Jamis Winston trying to get
Speaker 1: in sync with Deshan Jackson articles, and it's not. It's
Speaker 1: the one thing that's not happening because it was happening
Speaker 1: with with Brian Fitzpatrick. He throws a different deep ball
Speaker 1: than Fitzpatrick, who throws rainbow. Fitzpatrick throws him up in
Speaker 1: the air and let's de Shan Jackson run under it.
Speaker 1: Winston throws it more on aline. If I was a
Speaker 1: contender and if de Sean Jackson wasn't working in Tampa,
Speaker 1: I'd give up like a fifth round pick to take
Speaker 1: on this cut salary for next year usually in the
Speaker 1: league and receiving after four weeks and then he finished,
Speaker 1: he vanished. It's like, come on, he's a thirty year
Speaker 1: old receiver. He's getting he's actually i think due to
Speaker 1: make like eleven million next year, and you don't even
Speaker 1: necessarily at the pay him. Uh, and you just have
Speaker 1: them as a rental potential. You didn't give up a
Speaker 1: late round pick. The one thing I'd say West Tampa
Speaker 1: is giving up forty points on the road. Well. Also,
Speaker 1: they fired their defensive coordinator and I thought played much.
Speaker 1: They played better, and they're they're playing an offense the
Speaker 1: first half in Cincinnati that now really just has two
Speaker 1: receivers thats Tyler Boyd Nja Green. But in in two
Speaker 1: thousand eighteen that doesn't really like fly All these great
Speaker 1: offenses have four or five options on every play. They've
Speaker 1: got nothing from John Ross, who has heard again losing
Speaker 1: Tyler Reiffer really hurt them, and so they're a little
Speaker 1: more one dimensional with a pretty lousy defense that everyone
Speaker 1: got to see last Sunday night. It wasn't just because
Speaker 1: they're playing the Chiefs, because they're a lousy defense right now,
Speaker 1: even though they have good players. That Efford injury was
Speaker 1: a killer. Yeah, Yeah, their production has gone down in
Speaker 1: four straight games on offense and then on defense. Perfects
Speaker 1: not practicing this week. Um, so we'll see, but Greg,
Speaker 1: you're accountable. Hot take is not going well so far?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was that Chris Westling would admit at
Speaker 1: the beginning of November that Jamis Winston is playing great football, which, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not off to a good start. I think he's
Speaker 1: played about what he normally does. Some good and Winston
Speaker 1: could have played like Patrick Mahomes and less probably wasn't. No,
Speaker 1: let's let's talk about a guy who just keeps making
Speaker 1: bonehead mistakes over and over. How many years into his
Speaker 1: career is he now? And he still plays like a
Speaker 1: rookie and we keep treating him as if, Oh, he's
Speaker 1: got this great ceiling. But he's been the same player
Speaker 1: all along. I think the blooms coming off the roads
Speaker 1: a little bit on that. Yeah, and here's here'sn't feel
Speaker 1: like people are quite as high on what this guy's
Speaker 1: ceiling is. I hear you. He's a year younger than
Speaker 1: Carson went He's twenty four, you know, a long career,
Speaker 1: like people said about Matthew Stafford. Next year, he'll be
Speaker 1: a year younger than someone else in the are After that,
Speaker 1: he'll be a year younger than someone else and will
Speaker 1: still be throwing games away. Here's a rough accountable. It
Speaker 1: was already, it was. It was a long long shot.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though, he's already You're right, maybe a
Speaker 1: ceilings at the high. He's already a league average starting quarterback.
Speaker 1: So that she's been, it's not like it's not like
Speaker 1: he doesn't have value. He's with a solid starting quarter
Speaker 1: with baggage. Yeah, all right, let's move on. The Seahawks
Speaker 1: are three and three. Uh, get healthy win against the
Speaker 1: Raiders in week six? Then thereby uh, and now they
Speaker 1: had to Detroit to face the Lions West. You locked
Speaker 1: up the Lions last week, you felt good about the
Speaker 1: going to Miami, and now they got a home game,
Speaker 1: and they also got Damon Snacks Harrison. I would assume
Speaker 1: he'll be part of the game plan against the Seahawks.
Speaker 1: How you feel? And here about two three and three
Speaker 1: teams going back to the well, locking up the liners again?
Speaker 1: Who look at you? Back to back lines? Look at you? Why?
Speaker 1: Why the confidence? I like the way they're playing, and
Speaker 1: a lot of that is the rookie class. Carry on Johnson,
Speaker 1: who I'm not sure who he reminds me of. Maybe
Speaker 1: Darren McFadden saw on Twitter you were trying that. You're
Speaker 1: going back and forth with some people trying to figure out.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he makes people miss though, and Darren
Speaker 1: McFadden did not. Absolutely, Darren McFadden did early in his career.
Speaker 1: He had great seasons with the Raiders. I mean, give
Speaker 1: me a break. When Hugh Jackson was running that team,
Speaker 1: Darren McFadden was playing at a Pro Bowl level for
Speaker 1: a couple of years. So I don't want to hear
Speaker 1: that Harry did not make evil missing space though he
Speaker 1: absolutely did. You are incorrect. How did he ever do
Speaker 1: for five yards per carry? The two thousand ten tape
Speaker 1: right now, pausa show and let's figure it out. I mean,
Speaker 1: of course when he played for the Cowboys he was
Speaker 1: washed up. He didn't. But uh, Frank rag now is
Speaker 1: playing much better. The first rounder carry On Johnson, uh,
Speaker 1: and Deshaun hand a guy they drafted in fourth round
Speaker 1: on their defensive line, is getting after quarterbacks. I like
Speaker 1: this rookie class, you know, I like, Um, that's a
Speaker 1: great name. My favorite Lions name still is Jerry Ball.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Jerry Cleveland Brown too for a while. These
Speaker 1: are two really improved offensive Lions. You mentioned Rag Now,
Speaker 1: I mean the Lions kind of controlled that game. We
Speaker 1: talked about in the off season that they were supposed
Speaker 1: to be much better upfront. It took a little while
Speaker 1: to come together, and then the Seahawks. The Seahawks looked
Speaker 1: like a different team. I know they were playing the Raiders,
Speaker 1: but in general, their offensive line has not been a
Speaker 1: problem this year. ESPN had this whole analytical study of
Speaker 1: who has the best tackle combination in football and pressures, hurries,
Speaker 1: all this different stuff they have. The Seahawks is the
Speaker 1: fifth best combination of tackles in the league, which seemed
Speaker 1: a little crazy to me. But I do think that
Speaker 1: they've gotten improved play, and they're good run blockers, and
Speaker 1: they've got a bit of an identity day. So I
Speaker 1: don't I think this is the week West is going down.
Speaker 1: I think the Seahawks win this game. But I love
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. Tea. It's I wish I didn't already blow
Speaker 1: my lock. I would have just gone right again, change
Speaker 1: it again, rules here, let's do it again. Wow, that's
Speaker 1: how you pick up ground on West. There you go.
Speaker 1: If you win if you win or you fall even
Speaker 1: further behind into a total pit of dark basically done
Speaker 1: in the race. Taking a road dog? Why not? I
Speaker 1: like I do. I do think the Seahawks are good,
Speaker 1: so it's it's also but the Lions are playing some
Speaker 1: good football right now. I think the Damon Harrison trade
Speaker 1: is perfect for this defense. In the three games they lost,
Speaker 1: they gave up a hundred and eighty yards rushing, and
Speaker 1: they've been kind of back and forth as a defense,
Speaker 1: and the three games they won they give up less
Speaker 1: than a hundred rushing and this addresses their biggest hole
Speaker 1: on that defense right now. And I think it's a
Speaker 1: great It's it's a fit and it's a fit for
Speaker 1: the coach to fit for the scheme. Um. We are
Speaker 1: five games into our preview Grega's three box. So far
Speaker 1: all three have been road dogs. By the way, A
Speaker 1: little fun fact moving on. The Denver Broncos ten victors
Speaker 1: on Thursday nights, so they get a kind of a
Speaker 1: mini by uh, and they need it because now they're
Speaker 1: going to arrowhead to face the Chiefs, who also won
Speaker 1: in Week seven and look as good as anybody in
Speaker 1: football on offense, including the Rams. Greg who's got a
Speaker 1: better offense right now? It's good. I would take the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs are harder to stop overall a little.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's it's I don't know what they're they're
Speaker 1: two of the best offenses we've seen in a long time.
Speaker 1: And one of the reasons the Chiefs is are so
Speaker 1: good because like last week, the Bengals tried to keep
Speaker 1: them all in front of them, you know, make them
Speaker 1: kind of work the way down the field, not not
Speaker 1: just all big plays. And it didn't matter, like because
Speaker 1: all of these guys can break tackles. Kelsey cream Hunt
Speaker 1: is leading the league in in miss tackles right now.
Speaker 1: But I think the Chiefs overall, But I mean the
Speaker 1: Broncos have, Yes, if I had to choose one, the
Speaker 1: Broncos have this team beat. About a month ago, it
Speaker 1: was in their building. They could not figure out a
Speaker 1: way and and showtime. According to Joe Tessa Tour took over.
Speaker 1: But it's that's They're gonna need a lot more on
Speaker 1: the road here. This is a tough task for any team.
Speaker 1: Chiefs are the fourth team in the last fifteen years
Speaker 1: to average thirty seven points per game three weeks seven,
Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen, Broncos two thousand nine, Sts two thousand seven,
Speaker 1: Patriots seven points for one of One of the reasons
Speaker 1: that's a little under the radar is the Chiefs have
Speaker 1: the number one special teams in the league. That so
Speaker 1: you're adding the number one offense in my mind and
Speaker 1: according to Football Outsiders, the number one special teams where
Speaker 1: they're they have great field position, they have great return units,
Speaker 1: they have a great field goal kicker. It's like, you
Speaker 1: don't need to have a great defense if if you've
Speaker 1: got all that going on and there is room for
Speaker 1: improvement on that defense, I think they did it last week,
Speaker 1: had great door. You know, Daniel and Brennan Speaks are
Speaker 1: getting some playing time with Justin Houston. Now. I think
Speaker 1: that's gonna be valuable down the stretch. To me, their
Speaker 1: defense is playing a little bit better. They get Daniel
Speaker 1: Sorenson back soon, who was on i R to begin
Speaker 1: the year. Von Miller hasn't had a sack in two
Speaker 1: years against the Chiefs, and the Chiefs their offensive line
Speaker 1: is protecting Mahomes really really well. They do everything well.
Speaker 1: And I I that Broncos from last Thursday, the game
Speaker 1: feels like two years ago. But that was like they
Speaker 1: did not the coach did not lose this team, not
Speaker 1: the way they played the Cardinals. I know it's a
Speaker 1: terrible Arizona team, but von Miller played out of his
Speaker 1: mind and he's gonna have to do it again. And
Speaker 1: the Chiefs they have the von Miller stopper and former
Speaker 1: Brown Mitchell Schwartz, who's been on has really won that
Speaker 1: matchup against von Miller over and over again. And I
Speaker 1: want to use you. Brought up Vance Joseph. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's out of the woods here with job security,
Speaker 1: because let's assume this goes how we think will probably go,
Speaker 1: you know, let's say forty two seventeen there, uh, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you're sitting on three and
Speaker 1: five if you don't win that Houston game the next
Speaker 1: week going into your bye Van josephs and still in
Speaker 1: a bit of trouble, even though he had that big,
Speaker 1: resounding win last week against the terrible Cardinals. I just wonder,
Speaker 1: I guess with some of these because you've already fired
Speaker 1: one of your coordinators who deserved to go in Mike McCoy.
Speaker 1: But um, I'm not sorry. That's the Cardinals, but like
Speaker 1: they wos fired him last year. It's hard at this point. Please,
Speaker 1: but who do you hand the team to wake? What's
Speaker 1: the point of of firing that show and then fire
Speaker 1: him like in weekends? That would be I would not
Speaker 1: wish getting fired three times in like twenty months on
Speaker 1: your worst enemy. That's pretty rough. Well the only thing
Speaker 1: any months. I can't remember any NFL coach that ever
Speaker 1: happening to he got he was asked to do the
Speaker 1: press conference after the last game ever played in San Diego.
Speaker 1: He talked to the media. I happened to be I
Speaker 1: was sitting there. By the time you got back up
Speaker 1: to the press box, there was a photocopy on your
Speaker 1: on your desk with the statement that he was fired
Speaker 1: in the time between walking up in the in the
Speaker 1: in the elevator. He was fired over that time and
Speaker 1: now he's been fired twice since coming off the copy
Speaker 1: or while he was speaking was hot? Uh, moving on,
Speaker 1: it was hot more ways than one. The way you
Speaker 1: told that story is hot. What if we have him
Speaker 1: on the show and not fire him. Yeah, he's not
Speaker 1: gonna be doing a good job based on what we've seen.
Speaker 1: It's oh guy, all right here we go the first place.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the NFC East, the leaves changing color, you know.
Speaker 1: Getting back from St. Margaret's going over to Granby and
Speaker 1: Poppy's house. And there's Poppy on that brown chair and
Speaker 1: he's holding that roof here, and he's got his pretzels
Speaker 1: and and I say, Poppy, now the Giants doing today?
Speaker 1: Poppy says, yeah, thanks Poppy. So is he super plugged
Speaker 1: in on the Giants or is he into the game?
Speaker 1: And it's not really a time for conversation. I didn't
Speaker 1: have a lot of deep conversation is with my grandfather.
Speaker 1: He was he was a somewhat quiet man. But when
Speaker 1: the Giants we're on, you weren' gonna get you. We're
Speaker 1: gonna be going back and forth about oh look at this,
Speaker 1: look at the zone defense scheme. Wait what Sims doing today? No,
Speaker 1: it's kind of just like poppies watching the game in
Speaker 1: the den. And if you want to sit there and
Speaker 1: watch it with them, you can, but don't expect to
Speaker 1: be in a heavy can you know what that reminds
Speaker 1: me of a fans notes go to the bar to
Speaker 1: watch the giant thing? You don't want heretics. You know,
Speaker 1: it's the worst when you're trying to watch a game
Speaker 1: somewhere out and someone's in your ear a wait for me. Anyway.
Speaker 1: So the reason I thought of that is because the
Speaker 1: Redskins and Giants are playing. Uh. And also I watched
Speaker 1: the I had it on my DVR for weeks and
Speaker 1: weeks and weeks. Uh, the Lawrence Taylor UM Football Life.
Speaker 1: Did you guys check that out? It was very good.
Speaker 1: It's a good machine. You should check that out. Park
Speaker 1: great time machine of the NFL and that division in particular. Anyway,
Speaker 1: So here are the Redskins, uh four and two. They
Speaker 1: are leading the NFC East and they really now um
Speaker 1: get get an opportunity to set themselves up well going
Speaker 1: into the second half of the season. Because here are
Speaker 1: the Giants, who mark are just in tatters right now
Speaker 1: and one in six trading away Eli Apple. We didn't
Speaker 1: really get into that on the last podcast. In addition
Speaker 1: to the trading snacks, Harrison the Lions. They move Elie
Speaker 1: Apple to the Saints. And this was a guy that
Speaker 1: was a difference maker. Maybe he didn't live up to
Speaker 1: his draft type as a first round pick. His mom
Speaker 1: maybe made more headlines than him in his two years
Speaker 1: in New York, but he was a piece of that defense.
Speaker 1: So this is a complete They're in complete shambles right now,
Speaker 1: and the Redskins couldn't get them at a better time.
Speaker 1: They have given up on their season. They're in purge mode.
Speaker 1: And we both come from somewhere where you have a
Speaker 1: lot of Giants France, like giant fan friends, and I
Speaker 1: don't know if you're getting the text I'm getting text
Speaker 1: from some they're furious with what's happened with his team
Speaker 1: over the past couple of years, and that you guys
Speaker 1: talked about the Redskins Cowboys game is like an old
Speaker 1: school NFC West rumble and I couldn't agree more watching
Speaker 1: that and what I loved about Washington what they did
Speaker 1: against Dala since they created two major turnovers of Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott fumbles that changed that game entirely, and they have
Speaker 1: a chance to do it again. Eli Manning is getting
Speaker 1: banged up every game, two plus sacks and six of
Speaker 1: seven appearances, he's getting hit his He's just getting hit
Speaker 1: left and right, and the Redskins basically just feels like
Speaker 1: an absolute wipe out. If they can keep a lid
Speaker 1: on Odell Beckham at Quon Barkley, like the Giants aren't confusing.
Speaker 1: They have these players that you'd want on any team,
Speaker 1: and they're unwatchable as an overall franchise right now, those
Speaker 1: turnovers from the Redskins defense that you mentioned, DJ Sweerrenger
Speaker 1: having a great year and to my mind, maybe the
Speaker 1: most underrated player in the NFL. Zach Brown inside linebacker
Speaker 1: is one of the best run stopping linebackers in the
Speaker 1: league um and he is the heartbeat of that defense.
Speaker 1: I think they you would assume their defensive line, which
Speaker 1: we've been talking about a year, would kind of dominate upfront,
Speaker 1: that you couldn't really run on this team, and so
Speaker 1: then it's on Eli. And one one thing I was
Speaker 1: thinking watching that Giant scheme where I thought Eli played
Speaker 1: pretty well overall last week was throwing the ball pretty well.
Speaker 1: But he is so often not on the same page
Speaker 1: with his receivers, and that's something it's unfair to compare
Speaker 1: him to Peyton Manning, but like that's what Peyton Manning
Speaker 1: did best was basically be on the same page of
Speaker 1: his receivers. You could you could drop a new receiver
Speaker 1: onto his team and first year, it's like the timing
Speaker 1: would just be perfect. And you just see so many
Speaker 1: times with Sterling, Shepard and Ingram and even od B
Speaker 1: that like they're not seeing the field the same way
Speaker 1: I am. Getting out of the ELI defender of business.
Speaker 1: But when Peyton Manning got old, he didn't look so
Speaker 1: good dealing with new receivers. I imagine like if ELI
Speaker 1: is washed up, then one for one year. He Peyton
Speaker 1: Manning got out. He had one year and he got
Speaker 1: out and he won the Super I just don't like these,
Speaker 1: Like the team that decides it's gonna channel itself through
Speaker 1: a running back, no matter how good the running back is,
Speaker 1: it just like you're fifteen years behind what's happening. Right.
Speaker 1: It was tough to watch that game. I hit on
Speaker 1: it a little bit on the Twitter Show, but se
Speaker 1: Kwan Barkley is as talented as any running back in
Speaker 1: the league. But when when you're just running him into
Speaker 1: a wall over and over again and then every how
Speaker 1: many times? How many touches did he have in that game?
Speaker 1: I know probably it probably was all right around yeah
Speaker 1: twenty three. It felt like it was a hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty three, and there was just no way to run
Speaker 1: an offense. There was one play. I think it was
Speaker 1: a third and two where and this is on Eli
Speaker 1: for not seeing the field as well, but he run
Speaker 1: Barkley runs out for a screen to pick it up,
Speaker 1: three convert defenders converging upon him, and Eli just put
Speaker 1: throws it to him anyway, and he gets swallowed up
Speaker 1: for a seven yard loss. And I'm like, this is
Speaker 1: not how football should be played. Like I am not
Speaker 1: Bill Walsh or as a you know, drawing up plays
Speaker 1: in the in the dirt with Joe Montana, but I
Speaker 1: know this is not how offense is supposed to look,
Speaker 1: especially when you have skill players on this team. It's tough.
Speaker 1: They're tough watch right now, and I won't do it again.
Speaker 1: I don't remember the last time I disagree with comparison
Speaker 1: as much as all of the Barry Sanders comparisons to
Speaker 1: say quality, I don't get that. I don't see that
Speaker 1: at all. If he's also like forty more pounds and right,
Speaker 1: he's a much more physical guy, and he's got explosive
Speaker 1: jump cuts like a young Adrian Peterson more than you're
Speaker 1: right about the right timing, by the way, because Adrian,
Speaker 1: you get Adrian Peterson going up against a team that
Speaker 1: just got rid of snacks than you could be a
Speaker 1: buck twenty for your boy. About a buck twenty in
Speaker 1: a touch. I mean he's on a pro Bowl. He's
Speaker 1: a pro bowler. Uh, let's move on the Brownies. It's
Speaker 1: not a thing. Not a thing. Uh. Two four and one. Uh,
Speaker 1: disappointing loss at Tampa last week. Now now they're up
Speaker 1: against it. Sometimes you gotta win these games. Sometimes you
Speaker 1: gotta win a game. You gotta win the Bucks game
Speaker 1: because the next week you gotta go to Pittsburgh now
Speaker 1: and face the Steelers coming off there by you do,
Speaker 1: I guess catch a break um Mark in the sense
Speaker 1: that levy on Bell isn't there. But they're they've been fine.
Speaker 1: They've been fine with Adam. They gotta make their own bricks.
Speaker 1: They've been fine without lab On Bell was Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: they've been they've been fine. And to me, this matchup,
Speaker 1: what I'd be worried about is a Ounds fan is
Speaker 1: there seems to be a disconnect between Baker Mayfield and
Speaker 1: his past protection. I don't I can't put my finger
Speaker 1: on it, but he doesn't seem as confident in the
Speaker 1: pocket when he drops back, and he's getting hurried a
Speaker 1: lot I can't tell if that's his fault of the
Speaker 1: offensive line, but there's an issue there. And the Steelers
Speaker 1: pass rush has really come alive the last few weeks.
Speaker 1: So to me, that's that's the matchup to watch in
Speaker 1: this one. I don't like the matchup at all. I
Speaker 1: mean Cleveland also, this is another one of those like
Speaker 1: Slay the Ghost type games. They haven't on Sunday. Comes Sunday,
Speaker 1: they will have not one in Pittsburgh and five thousand,
Speaker 1: five hundred and two days. And the last time they well,
Speaker 1: the last time I was remember sitting at my parents
Speaker 1: two thousand and three, Tim Couch beat them on a
Speaker 1: I think it was a Sunday night football, getting in
Speaker 1: your couch watching couch, sitting on my couch watching couch.
Speaker 1: Did you just tell us the years because the days? Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I was not going to have you do that. But
Speaker 1: that's how that's just the story of this team. And
Speaker 1: like you, the way they played in the second half
Speaker 1: against the Bucks on offense with Nick Chubb, that was
Speaker 1: he is he is, and I was I wanted them
Speaker 1: to keep high just for this sheer's sake of depth,
Speaker 1: because if you lose Chubb for even a couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: you've got nothing but Duke Johnson there, but they think
Speaker 1: they lead the league and drops and and the left
Speaker 1: tackle play has been getting Baker Mayfield killed, and sometimes
Speaker 1: the right tackle play and sometimes right up the middle.
Speaker 1: So I don't like the matchup against I almost was
Speaker 1: going to lock up the Browns and one of these
Speaker 1: stupid things that I do, and I said, stop doing this.
Speaker 1: Stop that would be stupid. How about the idea that
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas is a villain for retiring? How about that? No,
Speaker 1: no one said that? Who said that? That says not?
Speaker 1: I am curious, like has the Steelers because you're you're
Speaker 1: on the sideline and he's still like Browns fan number one.
Speaker 1: It's like, if you love this big, it would have
Speaker 1: been perfect a year. It would have been perfect for
Speaker 1: one more season. But yeah, you know, anybody else, continue
Speaker 1: to savage your body, Joe, thank you? What I actually
Speaker 1: missed it? Dan is hot and masculing the trade the
Speaker 1: whole scisser, All right, not a trade, but come up
Speaker 1: with some new ideas. Could have Yeah, entered a new
Speaker 1: one there, but she doesn't have a lot of the ram.
Speaker 1: Well we can tell. I want to know if like
Speaker 1: they's got a lot of everything else. Though, if you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, what are you saying? It's a robot,
Speaker 1: it's a hot robot. It's not even a robot. It's
Speaker 1: like weird science right now, it's just a compute thought
Speaker 1: it was a computer. But now peeling back the layers
Speaker 1: and now you're learning that Eric and I went in
Speaker 1: the dumpster and put together a full robot. It's a
Speaker 1: monitor with a huge backside, and it is the Steelers
Speaker 1: went into the and it lives with I keep her
Speaker 1: in the garage. What what does Emily think about that?
Speaker 1: She doesn't know you have made something of an announcement
Speaker 1: here that's no longer Probably I have the only key
Speaker 1: to the garage. I'll stop there. What else you got
Speaker 1: in there? Sensor censored? That could be cutting another? Alright,
Speaker 1: go ahead for it was gonna save that drop. I
Speaker 1: don't even want to go next. I can't follow that up.
Speaker 1: Had something on the steel I mean it's probably at
Speaker 1: this point, is you know, it's probably about like line
Speaker 1: player or whatever. Uh. Bed Roethlisberger before the bye was
Speaker 1: just chilling like they were. The Bengals were sending blitz.
Speaker 1: Is the Falcons were and granted maybe those aren't the
Speaker 1: two best defense in the world, but like teams were
Speaker 1: sending people at him and he was just like hanging
Speaker 1: out back there. He could not have been more worried.
Speaker 1: They could not have dominated their last two games before
Speaker 1: the bye up front more than they did. And as
Speaker 1: West mentioned it, it came on defense too. So I'm
Speaker 1: wondering are those improvements gonna stick, because then they're back
Speaker 1: to basically being the Steelers team everyone expected. All right,
Speaker 1: let's move on. That was worth waiting for. I liked it.
Speaker 1: That was good. Uh. The Indian Apple's cults. Why are
Speaker 1: we constantly self assessing during the show. The cults are
Speaker 1: two and five, But they looked damn good in destroying
Speaker 1: the hideous Bills thirty five last week and now they
Speaker 1: get the Raiders. How about that? How about ava back
Speaker 1: to back to get healthy? Uh? We just talked about
Speaker 1: the Giants being in a tear it down. Well, the
Speaker 1: Raiders just traded Marie Cooper. There's reports that nobody likes
Speaker 1: the quarterback. I'm sure that's good for morale in the
Speaker 1: locker room. Uh so, Greg, the Colts have a chance
Speaker 1: to really get rolling here against the down on its
Speaker 1: luck Raiders unit. Yeah, if I had been trying to predict,
Speaker 1: like what West would have locked up, which would make
Speaker 1: another fun segment. Why don't we just lock up? Who
Speaker 1: other people are gonna lock up? What are you the same?
Speaker 1: This did not pass the mirror to against the races.
Speaker 1: This did not pass the mirror. They're barely favored their favorite.
Speaker 1: I mean the Lions are actually favored. You're talking about
Speaker 1: your mirror. But here's the thing. The mirror is subjective.
Speaker 1: So of course that's one way that I do it,
Speaker 1: and that's all you need to work. I could not
Speaker 1: look in the mirror on this game. Remember the John
Speaker 1: Fox Bears, where like once a year or twice the
Speaker 1: Eagles are favored by more than the Cults are the
Speaker 1: lines for that matter, I don't care what the desert says.
Speaker 1: Let me just say, I'm just saying it's not a
Speaker 1: crazy notion. I think I could take the call. Feel
Speaker 1: like help here? Um, you use the line a lot
Speaker 1: to figure out the mirror West? You do not? Let
Speaker 1: me say, because I did see these lines, it's a
Speaker 1: bad line. Yeah, don't you agree? Right? Can I can
Speaker 1: I make my point about John Fox? Go ahead? Remember
Speaker 1: what the Bears, and once or twice a year he
Speaker 1: would just punt a game like he wouldn't even try
Speaker 1: to win. It would be just like I'm just gonna punt.
Speaker 1: Third Seahawks the Raiders in London pre game decision. The
Speaker 1: Raiders in London punted their offense. They decided that the
Speaker 1: rookie tackles could not block the Seahawks, so they didn't
Speaker 1: try to pass longer than ten yards and basically are
Speaker 1: thrown through a shoulder injury. Yeah, he they could not
Speaker 1: run an offense and they knew it, Like by the
Speaker 1: middle of the first quarter they said, I can't this
Speaker 1: guy can't drop back and throw downfield. Their left tackle
Speaker 1: hasn't protected anyone all season, and now they have a
Speaker 1: rookie left tackle too, and their left tackle was playing
Speaker 1: through a knee in Duram that game too, So I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a lot of what happened. But no, I could
Speaker 1: not lock up against the Raiders. Come on, uh, I can't.
Speaker 1: You can't say it. But the people in the desert,
Speaker 1: this is how much better they feel about the Cults
Speaker 1: over the Raiders this week. Ah ah ah ah. And
Speaker 1: that doesn't that doesn't feel like it's no, they're not.
Speaker 1: It's not passing the eyeball test for me. The way
Speaker 1: the culture playing on how bad the Raiders are, that's great, world.
Speaker 1: I don't as that. I mean, they're at home. You know,
Speaker 1: if if we all knew what was going to happen
Speaker 1: ahead of time, we could become rich. But Marlin, we're
Speaker 1: gonna do this endless circle of whether the desert knows
Speaker 1: what they're talking about or not. They're always right. Now,
Speaker 1: that's at my point, and I'm just saying, you can
Speaker 1: never predict anything because nobody knows anything. I mean, what's
Speaker 1: the purpose of the show, then, I honestly I think
Speaker 1: predictions are you are not the purpose of the show.
Speaker 1: Very he's a nihilist. I love football like I'm excited
Speaker 1: for Thursday night football. You guys are grown and about it.
Speaker 1: I'm not a nihilist. I don't. I just want to watch.
Speaker 1: Its a big part of the show. I do think
Speaker 1: the culture every team is even they're all five hundred
Speaker 1: and they're all gonna finish eight and Nate, we we
Speaker 1: all love all the same strength and weaknesses. There's no
Speaker 1: use any analysis whatsoever is totally useless in the I
Speaker 1: love talking about like how the teams are different, and
Speaker 1: we love this Colts team, which is two and five.
Speaker 1: It's totally different than any Colts team we've seen because
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck never gets hit. He's been sacked once in
Speaker 1: the last three weeks. He doesn't run the ball. He's
Speaker 1: essentially a completely different quarterback than we've ever seen him
Speaker 1: be before. My dream is still in play. By the way,
Speaker 1: it's not likely because the Chiefs are having a really
Speaker 1: nice season, but everybody can still go eight Nate season. Yes,
Speaker 1: I was very excited about that assibility, and maybe that's
Speaker 1: the best way for football to be played, is that
Speaker 1: everybody is in the mix. Any anything can happen. Everybody
Speaker 1: goes ate. Nate still in play two or three more weeks.
Speaker 1: I love the Cults West. My thing is I'm worried about, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're at the point where I'm
Speaker 1: just assuming that they're gonna win a road game against
Speaker 1: any team, that's all. I don't like that Marlon Mack
Speaker 1: he got downgraded to didn't did not practice today, and
Speaker 1: people aren't I'm not sure why that is. At this point,
Speaker 1: I don't think you can rely on him. He's got
Speaker 1: an ankle injury right now, so we'll see. But they
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Speaker 1: San Francisco forty Niners one and six got spanked by
Speaker 1: the Rams last week. Travel now to Arizona, UH to
Speaker 1: face the cards coming off of many by after they
Speaker 1: got embarrassed by the Broncos on Thursday Night Football. They
Speaker 1: get another home game here. Mark Sessler, which of these
Speaker 1: teams has a better outlook for the rest of the season.
Speaker 1: I think it's the forty Niners I mean you already
Speaker 1: into coaching switches with the Cardinals. I do think it's
Speaker 1: interesting though Byron left which Bruce Arians love that guy.
Speaker 1: Wherever he goes, people rave about him. He's their new
Speaker 1: play caller. It's probably a nice change for David Johnson
Speaker 1: and for Josh Rosen, who looked absolutely lost against the
Speaker 1: Broncos last Thursday night to killer pick six is and
Speaker 1: he's not getting protected. You're worried about Sam Donald in
Speaker 1: New York. At times, I get worried about where Josh
Speaker 1: Rosen the end of this season, that this continues. Byron
Speaker 1: left which is never called plays before, this is gonna
Speaker 1: be It's it's an experiment. It's it's a desperate experiment, Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, because I don't know. I don't know, because
Speaker 1: it feels like Byron Leftwich was just playing in the
Speaker 1: league and and now all of a sudden he's gonna
Speaker 1: be calling plays in the middle of the season, taking over.
Speaker 1: It feels like a big job for anybody, and you
Speaker 1: hope he he does well. But um, yeah, the idea
Speaker 1: that this is gonna now solve the Cardinals woes on offense,
Speaker 1: that feels like a reach. Well to see how it
Speaker 1: works out. These seems just played. This is too close
Speaker 1: to be playing against each other again three weeks ago.
Speaker 1: Give me a break if if you're if you're a
Speaker 1: forty Niners fan, you could not make a better schedule. Though,
Speaker 1: before you're buy, you probably play the three worst teams
Speaker 1: in the league in a row except for themselves, except
Speaker 1: for the Bills and themselves, but the three great one
Speaker 1: win teams. I mean that says good in the next
Speaker 1: two will be at home. So if only they weren't
Speaker 1: on the five game losing stream, get healthy, way to go,
Speaker 1: get to three and Cardinals to not play poorly against
Speaker 1: San Francisco last time they won. I mean that was
Speaker 1: their best game of the year. And I mean, which
Speaker 1: it's there's not many to pick from, but it's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, you can't, can't. Let's go on a
Speaker 1: limb a little bit to call that their best game.
Speaker 1: But I'll go with that. Well, I mean, what's better.
Speaker 1: I don't want better? Well, they've only won one, even
Speaker 1: with c J. Bether that quarterback. I have more confidence
Speaker 1: in the forty Niners offense, but I have more confidence
Speaker 1: in the Cardinals defense. I don't really trust the forty
Speaker 1: Niners defense. Now it's terrible here the can you know
Speaker 1: they built that defensive line. Everyone got excited about all
Speaker 1: the house great and Armstead and they took solemn times
Speaker 1: and the forest buck is good. It's not not as
Speaker 1: far as teammates are lousy. But can if that's your
Speaker 1: the identity, can you do something that group? I mean
Speaker 1: they got their quarterback. Yeah, make a difference. Pick this game. Mark, Uh, well, okay,
Speaker 1: I will go forty Niners competently us. I'll go Cardinals
Speaker 1: at home at the farm because I just traded for
Speaker 1: David Johnson. He's gonna have a big breakout game. I
Speaker 1: got the Cardinals forts and I'm locking it up for real.
Speaker 1: It just seems like a fun bit. Yeah, just keep
Speaker 1: you gonna do it. They are a road tea. Yeah
Speaker 1: that's well, you're keeping up the streak. I like, you know,
Speaker 1: whenever you can lock up against trying to mix it
Speaker 1: up here. Let's move on and talk about the Green
Speaker 1: Bay Packers. That guy on Twitter a t N lock ups.
Speaker 1: His head is spinning, right, He's just he's like rocking
Speaker 1: in the corner. He just like stops listening. When when
Speaker 1: all four of us have locked up and he stopped
Speaker 1: listening twenty five minutes ago, with Gregg's first of the
Speaker 1: Packers coming off there by. Uh have an underwhelming performance. Uh,
Speaker 1: definitely on the defensive side of the ball in their
Speaker 1: last game of Monday and football. But they got to
Speaker 1: win against those Niners. And now uh they better be
Speaker 1: scoring because they're heading to Los Angeles to face the Rams,
Speaker 1: the NFL's only undefeated team at this stage. Seven and
Speaker 1: oh uh speaking of desert people West, they don't like
Speaker 1: the Packers chances here? Do you? I have? I have
Speaker 1: a tingling feeling the antenna are up and what if
Speaker 1: my instincts are telling me to pick the Packers in
Speaker 1: this game? But I just lock it up. I don't
Speaker 1: have the onions to do it. I don't know why
Speaker 1: you can pick them? Nah, I can't. I can't. I
Speaker 1: like rolling with the lines two weeks in a row. Um,
Speaker 1: But I do think the Packers are better than they've
Speaker 1: shown so far, and they're getting healthy. They should get
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb and Jim Allison back, and more importantly, Jayire Alexander,
Speaker 1: the rookie cornerback who was their best cornerback early in
Speaker 1: the season, should be back. Didn't their past defense against C. J.
Speaker 1: Beth and company spook you. Going against the Rams and
Speaker 1: all those great receivers, it absolutely spooked me. As I said,
Speaker 1: they all have their best cornerback back. They are are
Speaker 1: great research packet which Dan always has up here has
Speaker 1: as an interesting note on Jared Goff. It's the most
Speaker 1: effective play action quarterback in the league and terms of
Speaker 1: yards per tempt I believe, and going up against the
Speaker 1: last ranked UH secondary in terms of going up against
Speaker 1: play action, Jared Goff hasn't had to do much the
Speaker 1: last three weeks. Even what he has had to do, though,
Speaker 1: he hasn't been quite as spectacular and difference making as
Speaker 1: he was early in the season. So now all right
Speaker 1: here we got a real game here I was. I
Speaker 1: want to say that September Goff back in the mix
Speaker 1: against the past. Isn't everything play action for the Rams?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm exaggerating a little bit, but they do
Speaker 1: very little just dropping back straight from center. They they
Speaker 1: do at of the time, which is more than ten
Speaker 1: percent more than any team in the league. So they
Speaker 1: do it far more than any other team. And we're
Speaker 1: not doing play action. They're doing a lot of like
Speaker 1: ghost jet sweeps, and a lot of trickery in the
Speaker 1: backfield before the snap. There was a game each week
Speaker 1: where I decided not to say a single thing of value,
Speaker 1: and that is this game that I'm choosing to do that.
Speaker 1: This is a great game, though it's not like it's
Speaker 1: not like there's not enough for anyone else to say.
Speaker 1: Continue on a lot of errands in this game. Aaron Donald,
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones, Aaron Rodgers. I mean it is the battle
Speaker 1: of the two greatest cow quarterbacks of all time. And
Speaker 1: maybe there was another one that I have no idea,
Speaker 1: but oh there's god gonna guess. I mean, they're better
Speaker 1: than Kyle bol Is this connected mark than I doubt
Speaker 1: there's one from the seventies or eighties. Is this connected
Speaker 1: to your longstanding distaste of Aaron Rodgers and the Packers?
Speaker 1: One of the I don't have a distaste friend Rodgers.
Speaker 1: It is the the Packers fans that moan about their
Speaker 1: up and down luck when you've had like thirty years
Speaker 1: of the best quarterback play to watch ever, settled down
Speaker 1: with your complaints. I have gotten tweets before from Packers
Speaker 1: fans saying that they should be on the pain ranking.
Speaker 1: Please they need to calm down please with that they're
Speaker 1: on the place? Are we having two different conversations right
Speaker 1: Now's not how podcasts work. By the way, had Girley
Speaker 1: on pace for touchdowns on the ground pretty good. I
Speaker 1: want todown, don't you? Guys? Want the Rams to keep
Speaker 1: winning and stay undefeeded up until that chee until the
Speaker 1: Chiefs game. Yes, I mean that's a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: I get a little concerned that we sometimes feel like
Speaker 1: we operate as an extended pr limb for them. So
Speaker 1: I would like to see them be challenged on some level, right,
Speaker 1: So like the game will just be terrible if they're
Speaker 1: not undefeated going in. But just to be had it
Speaker 1: had a little fun element to what's already. And it's
Speaker 1: in Mexico City, right, Why aren't we going to Mexico City?
Speaker 1: By the way, it's kind of dangerous, I think to start,
Speaker 1: I've heard that I would I would love I would
Speaker 1: love to go. We should get it. We should get
Speaker 1: on that. Mexico City may be dangerous, but I mean
Speaker 1: I probably parts of it. Part would go all out
Speaker 1: to make sure we were fully protecting. I'm sure Henry
Speaker 1: doesn't like the comment that was just made. I'm sure
Speaker 1: it's a beautiful from the record. The New Orleans Saints
Speaker 1: are five and one. Uh. Campost is going to Mexico City?
Speaker 1: How about that? What for what reason? What are you
Speaker 1: doing there? I'm I'm going for the game. Good for you,
Speaker 1: just like as a fan or uh are you working there?
Speaker 1: I'm I maybe going to This sounds wait, this sounds
Speaker 1: suddenly very shady. What do you cannot describe what it
Speaker 1: is you're doing there? Um No, I'm just I'm you know,
Speaker 1: I'm going with Damna Check and m j D to
Speaker 1: shoot it. Who's producing our podcast? That's that's why we're
Speaker 1: not going. No, I you want a little pull back
Speaker 1: the curtain Erica. I knew about this trip that you're
Speaker 1: going on before you did. I know you got you.
Speaker 1: You gave me the okay because you wanted me to
Speaker 1: have this opportunity, and I really appreciate it. I did
Speaker 1: get a phone calling in a shadowy league figure, would
Speaker 1: you be okay with this? And I said, of course,
Speaker 1: we would love her that go to Mexico and never
Speaker 1: be seen again. All right here? We got the Saints
Speaker 1: five and one, uh, first place in the NFCY South
Speaker 1: travel to Minneapolis. Here's one of the best games of
Speaker 1: the season, potentially, boys a rematch of that famous divisional
Speaker 1: playoff game. Uh Stefon Diggs, one of the most memorable
Speaker 1: plays in the last thirty years in the NFL. I'm
Speaker 1: going out on a limb, but I don't care. Uh
Speaker 1: Saints Vikings Greg Oh, Yeah, rematch of the Minneapolis Miracle.
Speaker 1: It is as good a matchup as you can have
Speaker 1: with two of the best quarterbacks in the league. But
Speaker 1: to me, the best quarterback right now is Drew Brees.
Speaker 1: He would be my pick for m v P. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're splitting hairs. You're splitting hairs between him and Patrick Holmes,
Speaker 1: but I would give him the ever so slight edge.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of a play last week. This is what
Speaker 1: m v PS do down seven. You're in Baltimore, late
Speaker 1: third quarter, it's third and long. They send an absolutely
Speaker 1: perfectly time blitz where a safety gets through free and
Speaker 1: gets all over Drew Brees. And you know what he does.
Speaker 1: He still completes a pass with a safety draped all
Speaker 1: over him. You pick up the first down, you go
Speaker 1: score a touchdown, You you score what's event teen points
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter against the best defense in the
Speaker 1: league and you go win a game on the road.
Speaker 1: That's that's what m v p S do. I saw
Speaker 1: something in that game I never saw before. Sean Payton
Speaker 1: went for I went for the fourth down on four
Speaker 1: different times on one drive to open the game, four
Speaker 1: different times. And it reminds me of um. Sam Weiss
Speaker 1: when I wrote the Ohio River Offense said, you know
Speaker 1: that the no huddle gave him, You know, a few
Speaker 1: percentage points edge on everybody every week, and if you
Speaker 1: have a quarterback who knows what he's doing, a veteran,
Speaker 1: that gives you another few more percentage points that you
Speaker 1: take into a game. And this is what the Saints
Speaker 1: are taking into a game every week. Sean Payton's aggressiveness
Speaker 1: and play calling and Drew Brees gives them, like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, eight percent chance already before the game even
Speaker 1: started to win. And then you look at a team
Speaker 1: like the Browns that has punted sixteen times in the
Speaker 1: opponent's territory this year. The next closest team is the
Speaker 1: Texans with nine. I think coaching matters that much. Ouch
Speaker 1: Vikings have faced Josh Allen, Josh Rosen, and Sam Donald.
Speaker 1: This is not going to be the way it is
Speaker 1: this week. That's a totally different deal. I like. The
Speaker 1: one thing though, on the flip side for Kirk for
Speaker 1: Cousins is John D. Filippo. I think is becoming the
Speaker 1: next big head coaching candidate because you look what he
Speaker 1: did with the Eagles last year and Nick Foles in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, and now I think he's getting the
Speaker 1: best possible version of Cousins as well. He might be
Speaker 1: interviewing with both of our favorite teams. By the way,
Speaker 1: just one that these articles start coming about who the
Speaker 1: names are and he's at the top of every one
Speaker 1: of them, and he's got a good track record at
Speaker 1: this point. This matchup got me thinking though about the
Speaker 1: guy who made that place, Stefon Diggs. Last two weeks,
Speaker 1: he's had thirty three yards each week. He got targeted
Speaker 1: fourteen times for thirty three yards. As great as the Cousins,
Speaker 1: the thel And connection can be, this team would be
Speaker 1: humming if you're getting them both the exam theal and
Speaker 1: going at the same time. And back to Drew Brees
Speaker 1: for a second, cause that is interesting. Greg' So I
Speaker 1: haven't heard anybody say that Patrick Mahomes isn't the m
Speaker 1: v P leader, And yeah, I think you make a
Speaker 1: lot of sense. In addition of the fact he hasn't
Speaker 1: thrown an interception yet. Uh, and he's averaging eight and
Speaker 1: a half yards per tempt Drew Brees and his team
Speaker 1: is five and one and leading the division. His completion percentage,
Speaker 1: which it's it's been always been great, and I think
Speaker 1: he holds the NFL record, and he said it a
Speaker 1: couple of times now it is although you up to
Speaker 1: seventy seven percent, it's just like that doesn't happen. That's
Speaker 1: that's an absurd number. Sev. He's also only been sacked
Speaker 1: nine times in six games, so he's not putting his
Speaker 1: offense and he's making more plays on his own like
Speaker 1: that one. I mean, granted a lot of those throws,
Speaker 1: of course, are short, easier throws, but he's making a
Speaker 1: lot of tough throws this year that stand out and
Speaker 1: your boy, and I'm not taking anything away from Tom
Speaker 1: Brady got all the love for being old and great,
Speaker 1: and I feel like Drew Brees doesn't get that love
Speaker 1: because Tom took it already. And people now since he
Speaker 1: set the bar or reset the bar, it's not that
Speaker 1: big a deal. But this guy is as good as
Speaker 1: ever and he's thirty. I like the Saints in this game.
Speaker 1: We should pick this game. Let's pick him. I'm taking
Speaker 1: the Saints. I'm taking the Saints. I don't feel confident
Speaker 1: about it, but I think they're the better team. You know,
Speaker 1: always helped the Saints. That your boy Da Mario O'Davis
Speaker 1: has been on both of your teams. He is having
Speaker 1: a great season for them. I almost locked the Saints.
Speaker 1: I had it on my piece of paper, but then
Speaker 1: I got a little freaked. But I'm picking them to
Speaker 1: win it that the opponent is too good to lock against,
Speaker 1: I think. But I like the way the Vikings are playing.
Speaker 1: I love him at home squeaker. Finally, Monday Night Football.
Speaker 1: You know, I asked for it and I got it.
Speaker 1: I said, if you're gonna have the Patriots in prime time,
Speaker 1: put them on the road, because then you can watch
Speaker 1: a fun game. All right? So who they got? Who
Speaker 1: they got? Oh? The Bill? Thank you? The worst team
Speaker 1: in football? Yeah it's uh. Tom Brady has sixteen touchdown
Speaker 1: this season. The Bills have three. It's not your fault, Greg,
Speaker 1: but against me so mad? Oh? Yeah? I mean you
Speaker 1: know they've just got it made. Playing the undefeated Chiefs
Speaker 1: in prime time. What an easy matchup. Give him some
Speaker 1: credit for a great victory. Well, we talked on the
Speaker 1: on the Twitter show. I mean, come on that you're
Speaker 1: not gonna feel bad, just like the home games. Is
Speaker 1: upset that they're like, we have to get them. We're
Speaker 1: gonna give them three primetime games in four weeks and
Speaker 1: we wanted to be at home for two of them.
Speaker 1: Let's put them on the road just once. Do it
Speaker 1: with Buffalo. Well, here's the things haven't had a home
Speaker 1: Monday night football game in a decade that they're trying
Speaker 1: to do something nice for the Bills. But you know,
Speaker 1: Bills ratings poison, So who do we gotta put them
Speaker 1: with America's team? That's we talked about. We talked about
Speaker 1: flexing these games on Monday Night. And this is the
Speaker 1: exhibit A. This is exhibit A because this is not
Speaker 1: this is not great for a Bills fan on national TV.
Speaker 1: If this goes the way you think to ten or something,
Speaker 1: that's not what you want everyone watching. You want the
Speaker 1: team hid in a way on one playoff team last year,
Speaker 1: which I get that they gotta put them out there
Speaker 1: in Week two or three to make sure you know
Speaker 1: the wheels haven't fallen up you just you know what
Speaker 1: they should do you ask me and should do for
Speaker 1: this game. In the bottom right hand corner where they
Speaker 1: usually have the NFL logo or the ESPN logo, just
Speaker 1: have the hashtag operation pink Pony the entire game. Thank you,
Speaker 1: right now, thank you. This is why you don't hire
Speaker 1: a defensive minded head coach, or why it probably doesn't
Speaker 1: help because I don't think you can happen as much
Speaker 1: as you can do a decent job on your defense,
Speaker 1: and like you better have a plan on your offense
Speaker 1: or else it don't matter what your defense. I've got
Speaker 1: a fantasy tip for people in deep, deep leagues. Let's
Speaker 1: check this weekend to see if the Patriots activate Kenneth
Speaker 1: Farrow from their practice squad. Sony Michelle is not practicing,
Speaker 1: they don't have an inside runner, and Kenneth Farrow won
Speaker 1: their practice player of the week last week on the
Speaker 1: scout team. So you get a good part, you get
Speaker 1: a special parking lot if he gets elevated and you're
Speaker 1: in a deep league, maybe maybe where are you nicking
Speaker 1: up Derek Anderson like in a super deep league? Leagues
Speaker 1: aren't deep enough. We never updated. Sony Michelle is not
Speaker 1: out for the season. It sounds like he will be
Speaker 1: able to come back, and that's a huge It's a
Speaker 1: huge part of their offense. It's running back. I mean
Speaker 1: they've lost like half of them as they're deep passing.
Speaker 1: Josh Gordon has made a big change last couple weeks.
Speaker 1: He has sixteen targets in the last two games. I
Speaker 1: would sit Gronk again this week, by the way, but
Speaker 1: I think he's practicing. Yeah, it sounds like he'll be
Speaker 1: back once every five weeks. I have to just mention
Speaker 1: Trey Flowers. It's like the best defensive player with Patriots
Speaker 1: once every five weeks. So we'll check back in. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying he doesn't get much love. He's great. Ah,
Speaker 1: that's it. Check back in with us on Sunday night. Oh,
Speaker 1: we gotta pick that game. Society is deemed that we
Speaker 1: must pick this game. That's okay, out on a limb here.
Speaker 1: I got the Bills. I got the Bills thirty to ten. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's surprising. I'm gonna go with the Patriots forty one
Speaker 1: to seventeen. Okay, Patriots, Uh, twenty three Patriots twenty seven nothing.
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm gonna go Patriots. I mean Bills
Speaker 1: forty to ten. That would be a tough That would
Speaker 1: be one of the worst moments of the Belichick era.
Speaker 1: That's for sure. That's it. Okay, all right, We'll be
Speaker 1: back on Sunday night with a recap of all the
Speaker 1: games we just previewed, so make sure you check that out.
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