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Speaker 1: Nick Mullins. Why cattle touchdown? Mullins is on fire. There
Speaker 1: may be a few less people on the plus back
Speaker 1: over to old Land after this one. Oh Nick at
Speaker 1: Night had no mercy on the Oakland Raiders thirty four
Speaker 1: to three. I don't want to sound like an apologist
Speaker 1: for the NFL here, but if you're gonna watch just
Speaker 1: one game between two one win teams all season, that
Speaker 1: is thirty four to three, this has this has to be.
Speaker 1: It was kind of fun to watch the Nick Molans show.
Speaker 1: It wasn't what anyone expected. This was the one of
Speaker 1: the lowest combined winning percentages in the history of primetime
Speaker 1: football entering this game after November one, and Nick Mullins,
Speaker 1: I mean he came out and stole the show. Kyle
Speaker 1: Shanahan you could tell had him very prepared. He was,
Speaker 1: you know, he came out with a scripted plays, hit
Speaker 1: his first six throws and then you know, from there
Speaker 1: it sort of became like the battle between Nick Mullin's
Speaker 1: dreams come true and a Raiders defense that didn't seem
Speaker 1: too interested in tackling anyone. Yeah, he only Nick Molins, uh.
Speaker 1: You know, in his second season, undrafted Southern miss, no
Speaker 1: one knew anything about him. A lot of people picked up,
Speaker 1: you know, the the Raiders fantasy defense to go up
Speaker 1: against them. But like these like c. J. Bethard, like
Speaker 1: a lot of Kyle Shanahan quarterbacks, he was ready to go.
Speaker 1: He did some nice things in terms of looking off
Speaker 1: the defenders before going back to them, some kind of
Speaker 1: next level stuff. Ultimately, he didn't have to do that much.
Speaker 1: Only through throws, had two hundred sixty two yards, three touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Guys were pretty wide open, and it was about as
Speaker 1: low as this Raiders season has been like this. This
Speaker 1: was the low point they they blend. They bench Reggie Nelson.
Speaker 1: At one point, Rashaan Melvin, who was their big free
Speaker 1: agent pickup, wasn't even active. For the game because he
Speaker 1: was bench They benched their right tackle Parker for a while,
Speaker 1: like they just keep They benched Martavis Bryant last week.
Speaker 1: Had to put they can't decide who to bench because
Speaker 1: everyone's terrible. They've got two dysfunctional units at least on
Speaker 1: this team, the offensive line in the secondary, and they
Speaker 1: shift bodies in and out because they can't find anything
Speaker 1: that works. And both those units have Grooden. Uh. The
Speaker 1: lip readers are deciphering what he's saying on the sidelines
Speaker 1: with both of them because he's so exasperated. But this
Speaker 1: reminded me their offense. They can said can't we can't
Speaker 1: ff and block anyone. Yeah, and their offense they come
Speaker 1: out and they go down the field. On the first drive,
Speaker 1: they get into field goal range and then Colton millar
Speaker 1: Re injures his knee and everything goes to hell. It
Speaker 1: looked like the Seattle game where they just couldn't run
Speaker 1: an offense. After that, it's tough. I mean, Derek Carr
Speaker 1: was sacked a lot, but Derek Carr kind of runs
Speaker 1: into those sacks a little bit, so it's a chicken
Speaker 1: in the egg where you know he's sliding on second
Speaker 1: and eleven with no defenders around him. I remember three
Speaker 1: third and longs where he threw well short of the stick.
Speaker 1: It's one was like third and twenty three, but your
Speaker 1: past midfield and you throw it two yards to Brandon LaFell.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of where the Raiders are at right now.
Speaker 1: And they just look like a team that gave up
Speaker 1: and they have eight games left. It's about as ugly
Speaker 1: a situation as we've seen in a long time. If
Speaker 1: you're a Raiders fan, are you more depressed about the
Speaker 1: effort level on defense or about the fact that you
Speaker 1: might not be able to evaluate Derek Carr behind this
Speaker 1: offensive line the rest of the year. I'm I guess
Speaker 1: the effort level because that speaks more to just as
Speaker 1: John Gruden ever gonna figure anything out, And uh yeah,
Speaker 1: at least we got to see George kit will do it.
Speaker 1: George Kittle, the tight end on my All Pro team.
Speaker 1: He looked that that seventy one yard catch. I mean
Speaker 1: to pull it in one hand and then not break
Speaker 1: stride and keep going. I I was happy just for
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, who's who has had a hangdog expression in
Speaker 1: all season. I think he's he's trying to He's trying
Speaker 1: to do his best here and they get a second win.
Speaker 1: They've had a lot of bad luck, so it was
Speaker 1: a fun night for them and a terrible night for
Speaker 1: the Raiders, who have the worst defense in NFL history
Speaker 1: right now in terms of yards per play allowed going
Speaker 1: into this game, it got significantly worse. So this is
Speaker 1: an historically bad Raiders team that we're probably not going
Speaker 1: to talk that much about the rest of the season,
Speaker 1: except when we're forced to. That checks out before we
Speaker 1: throw it over to Dan Hansas and Mark Sessler. I
Speaker 1: didn't even introduce myself to start the show. This is
Speaker 1: Greg obviously with Chris Wesseling. I just wanted to get
Speaker 1: your thoughts, Chris Westling. We had got some news after
Speaker 1: we taped all the games earlier that Paul Zimmerman, doctor Z,
Speaker 1: passed away on Thursday. And I know he had a
Speaker 1: huge um influence on me just in terms of how
Speaker 1: much I loved reading him, and I know it's the
Speaker 1: same for you. Yeah. I've been asked by other podcast hosts,
Speaker 1: how would you want people to see your writing or
Speaker 1: how would you describe your writing? And I would want
Speaker 1: people to think that he writes like a sportswriter who
Speaker 1: has played sports and views it through that lens. And
Speaker 1: Paul's Immerman to me, he started film watch, combining film
Speaker 1: watching with sports writing in a way. It was the
Speaker 1: first analytics of football and that he wrote as a
Speaker 1: guy who played in college. He played for Columbia and
Speaker 1: then played in a semi pro league in the trenches
Speaker 1: and really knew the game inside and out. But he
Speaker 1: also knew how to tell a story. It wasn't just
Speaker 1: often analytics don't tell a story, and often um writers
Speaker 1: get too into the numbers and the stats and they
Speaker 1: don't tell a story. Paul's Immerman was a storytelling Yeah,
Speaker 1: he could write his ass off. And Sports Illustrated, where
Speaker 1: he was for a long time, has a lot of
Speaker 1: his Super Bowl game stories up, and he wrote a
Speaker 1: lot of great features. But uh, if if you're into
Speaker 1: reading about football, uh, the thinking Man's Guide to Football
Speaker 1: by Paul Zimmerman or the New thinking Man's Guide is
Speaker 1: the one I would get to me is like maybe
Speaker 1: the seminal sort of tape watching where I've always thought,
Speaker 1: how great would it be if a book like that
Speaker 1: came out talking about the players of today? So go
Speaker 1: check that out. Another great one is the last season
Speaker 1: of We View Bank. I think it is kind of
Speaker 1: a an underrated season in the life gem of an
Speaker 1: old Jets team. So Paul Zimmerman, eighty six years old,
Speaker 1: rest in peace. You can see more on him at
Speaker 1: NFL dot com slash Books. I wrote about it and
Speaker 1: Mike check out Mike Silver's article he wrote about him
Speaker 1: today NFL dot Com, slash Silver. So we we lose
Speaker 1: a great one in Paul Zimmerman, But the show goes
Speaker 1: on and we're gonna preview all the week nine games
Speaker 1: with the very professional host Dan hans Is. Right now
Speaker 1: be Around with the NFL Podcast. Now is London. Welcome
Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around in the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis and I have joined in
Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Ceiler, Chris Westling and
Speaker 1: Greg Roseenhal. What is up, boys? Hey? Dan? How is
Speaker 1: everybody's Halloween Nights? Mark? I'm looking at you. It's formulaic, formulaic,
Speaker 1: hollow It was It was nice. We went up the street,
Speaker 1: got lots of candy, came down the street on the
Speaker 1: other side, got more candy, went home. It was great.
Speaker 1: It's one of my It's always one of my favorite nights,
Speaker 1: one of my kids, my kid's favorite nights of the year.
Speaker 1: And I was just impressed that, you know, my son Walker,
Speaker 1: we must have put in a solid like two and
Speaker 1: a half miles of walking year old And no, I
Speaker 1: know that makes me look like a bad dad. After
Speaker 1: Greg's glowing review, It's just like we had a great time.
Speaker 1: But I don't know what it doesn't know details. Am
Speaker 1: I gonna get dis one of my favorite days of
Speaker 1: the year. I loved being with the kids. And I
Speaker 1: wasn't doing it as a reflection on you. I'm just
Speaker 1: speaking of mine. I'm just saying how I feel. You
Speaker 1: guys are just amazing. And uh, I dressed up as
Speaker 1: as drag and when my son Jack he's he first
Speaker 1: saw me, he didn't talk to me for the first
Speaker 1: forty five minutes, completely terrified of me, until he calmed down. Um,
Speaker 1: I did get into a little bit of trouble less
Speaker 1: on Twitter, I'm curious. I feel like you might aligned
Speaker 1: with me. I don't know. On this is that a tweeter?
Speaker 1: I got too many eighteen year olds coming to get
Speaker 1: you know, Halloween candy at my door. I feel like
Speaker 1: you age out at a certain point and people came
Speaker 1: down hard on me. He's like, oh, listen, if it's
Speaker 1: better that they're getting candy than getting into troubles, like
Speaker 1: that's the bar that we're setting for the teens. Now, hey,
Speaker 1: hold on. I can't believe there was any blowback whatsoever.
Speaker 1: On the ton of blowback I got kill. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: This is a child's activity. I'm not surprised there was
Speaker 1: blowback because you could put anything out there and you
Speaker 1: get a bunch of people coming at you. But I
Speaker 1: could not side with you more there there. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: with you. Maybe they just maybe they were six fifteen, sixteen,
Speaker 1: but they kind of look like eighteen. There is that
Speaker 1: age do remember distinctly, the year where you realize you're
Speaker 1: too old. It's the same you're kind of like, well,
Speaker 1: I've already put it on. I'm getting that candy this
Speaker 1: year next year. To me, that was that's like thirteen fourteen,
Speaker 1: maybe Max, and then you gotta you gotta move on
Speaker 1: when you're eighteen. I remember it, and maybe I look
Speaker 1: back on it fonder than when I was in the moment.
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of fun stuff to do when
Speaker 1: you're eighteen. You gotta give up some certain things that
Speaker 1: you get. Somebody came at me on Twitter and said, oh,
Speaker 1: well you have you have to be aware though, because
Speaker 1: you know, you never know, maybe they're developmentally disabled. And
Speaker 1: I was like, what, I have empathy for those type
Speaker 1: of people. But so that's Oregan, that's the bands of
Speaker 1: mentally disabled people. So now I need to be nice
Speaker 1: to everyone just in case they're developmentally disabled. And you know,
Speaker 1: come on, Twitter is a grave society. Yes, we had
Speaker 1: people over last night. We had a nice little time. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we had a good time. You had the fun. We
Speaker 1: don't have kids yet time, well, we had many children there.
Speaker 1: Omar Louise and his wife came with their two kids,
Speaker 1: and we had several other children there. Fun. And Ricky
Speaker 1: Hollywood is barely alive right now. She's in that sweet spot.
Speaker 1: She's in her mid twenties where Halloween is a major
Speaker 1: party night. And you were probably tearing up West Hollywood,
Speaker 1: as I can tell by your face and body, Yeah,
Speaker 1: until the wee hours of this morning. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: take it easy on you if we can. Yeah, thank you,
Speaker 1: all right, We're gonna get through this. Today is uh Thursday,
Speaker 1: you heard at the top of the show, West and
Speaker 1: Greg explain the Raiders forty Niners game. Give that game
Speaker 1: some context. I'm gonna had to explain it. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna go through the rest of the week nine games. Now.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a week in the NFL that
Speaker 1: has more buyers than there are this week. The Cards, Bengals, Colts, Jags, Giants,
Speaker 1: and Eagles all open, which means that we have fewer
Speaker 1: games to talk about, but we're gonna give them just
Speaker 1: as much respect. I would say it may be more
Speaker 1: big time games than any week of the season despite
Speaker 1: the schedule. Sunday is gonna be fun because you can
Speaker 1: really focus in a little bit more than you usually
Speaker 1: can when there's a ton of games to go through.
Speaker 1: Clear out the garbage, Clear out the garbage, and let's start.
Speaker 1: Let's get into it. One of my favorite rivalries in football,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people agree, the Steelers and
Speaker 1: the Ravens squaring off in Baltimore. Uh, the Steelers have
Speaker 1: put it together three straight wins. They beat up on
Speaker 1: the Brownies last week, prompting the Hugh Jackson firing, and
Speaker 1: now they get the Ravens, who are in a little
Speaker 1: bit of trouble all of a sudden four and four.
Speaker 1: They've lost uh two straight mark uh. Is the season
Speaker 1: slipping away for the Ravens. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: how else you define it at this point. The way
Speaker 1: that they played against the Panthers, you get to halftime
Speaker 1: of that game in Baltimore looked totally shot to me,
Speaker 1: and it was just uncharacteristic from the when they played
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh the first time. They shut down James Conner in
Speaker 1: nineteen yards rushing the whole time. I think this is
Speaker 1: a completely different Steelers team from when that was back
Speaker 1: in Week four. The way that Pittsburgh beat Cleveland last
Speaker 1: week expedited all those firings because they hammered them in
Speaker 1: the second half in every way. They would remind you
Speaker 1: of what a Pittsburgh team does well on offense. Connor
Speaker 1: two twelve year cards, I know that. I know that
Speaker 1: statistically that came on both the run in the past.
Speaker 1: It was one of the most fascinating running back performances
Speaker 1: that I've seen all year. I don't think he's going
Speaker 1: to be controlled that way by the Ravens this time around.
Speaker 1: And Baltimore's offense has some issues right now. They just
Speaker 1: could not get it going. You mentioned it yesterday about
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco. This is this is Dan did this minor
Speaker 1: little thing. And I know it's picked on, but Joe
Speaker 1: Flacco when he's sent out wide and they ran the ball,
Speaker 1: this is not a big deal. But just something about
Speaker 1: his just standing there, like not a single person believed
Speaker 1: what was happening. When you are a football team and
Speaker 1: there's one person that's not doing their job, you're that's
Speaker 1: a disadvantage. Yeah, yeah, but I agree it's kind of
Speaker 1: a bit. And didn't Lamar Jackson have probably a bigger
Speaker 1: impact on that game than I thought? He didn't? They
Speaker 1: They seem like they're willing to use him more and more.
Speaker 1: Flaco's job is to stay out of the way, and
Speaker 1: at least it just annoyed me. I think, like I said,
Speaker 1: out of that gate, I don't think it's a huge
Speaker 1: tactical issue, just it annoyed me just to Flack. Just
Speaker 1: maybe how about look a little more engaged? Are you
Speaker 1: kind of like map Patricia to that reporter right now?
Speaker 1: Sit up straight? Well, first of all, this show opens
Speaker 1: with me looking like a terrible dad. Well everyone else,
Speaker 1: that's just they're wonderful society. Man, We'll have a nice
Speaker 1: time with you. I should not have answered that first
Speaker 1: because I tried to go against the grain a little bit.
Speaker 1: Then everyone else just gives me Pollyanna answers about joke.
Speaker 1: I'm done. It's sticking with you a little bit. It
Speaker 1: was a great, great night. It was a great night.
Speaker 1: I think you guys are just wonderful. You are wonderful.
Speaker 1: Six times kids addressed up. He seems thrilled with it.
Speaker 1: That is the reason, because I was another thing. Why
Speaker 1: is Halloween celebrated over the course of like three weeks now?
Speaker 1: You know, because kids love it. It's too much. It's
Speaker 1: not special if it's happening five. You gotta be kidding me,
Speaker 1: like I have any control over that. This back to
Speaker 1: the game. It's already one of the most intense rivalries
Speaker 1: in the league, and now you have a really desperate
Speaker 1: Ravens team that knows it's better than it's four and
Speaker 1: four record, knows this is a huge game, and then
Speaker 1: they have a bye the week after that, so they're
Speaker 1: putting everything into this game. You I hate the term
Speaker 1: must win, but in terms of wanting to win the
Speaker 1: a f C North I think this is a must win.
Speaker 1: It's such a strange spot that the Ravens are in.
Speaker 1: They are third in the NFL and point differential, it's
Speaker 1: the Rams, it's the Chiefs, and it's the Ravens are next,
Speaker 1: and yet they could be staring at five and four
Speaker 1: and five. They would be one in three in the division.
Speaker 1: If they lost this game, they'd be three losses behind Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: And they're playing the Steelers at the wrong time because
Speaker 1: right now the Steelers defense is found some answers. They
Speaker 1: are number one in the NFL and yards per play
Speaker 1: alloud over the last three weeks, I mean, the number
Speaker 1: one defense. I don't think they're they're that good, but
Speaker 1: they're certainly playing more cohesive and they're tough tot score on.
Speaker 1: And I think the Steeler's offensive line right now has
Speaker 1: to be in mix for the very best in football.
Speaker 1: This is the first time I can, maybe since early
Speaker 1: in his career, that Ben Roethlisberger's teammates and that's the line,
Speaker 1: that's his running game, it's his receivers are kind of
Speaker 1: carrying him more than more than the other way around.
Speaker 1: And back on the raven side, at least from a
Speaker 1: production standpoint, Joe Flacco is producing kind of like last
Speaker 1: year's Joe Flacco again in the last four weeks. They're
Speaker 1: just not They're not gonna hang in the conference or
Speaker 1: in the division unless he gets back to where he
Speaker 1: was in the earlier part of the season. They need
Speaker 1: Flacco to kind of come into his own, uh the
Speaker 1: way he did. He's got to get that chip back
Speaker 1: on the show. Can't be fluke. Hold on. The lights
Speaker 1: just blanked in here, and now the TriCaster looks off.
Speaker 1: Let me just call in just to make sure that
Speaker 1: this is this a ghost coming. Seriously, it literally like
Speaker 1: it's like the power just went out or something. Oh, Grot,
Speaker 1: that's real, Grot. I fixed it. Oh you did? Yeah
Speaker 1: what I hear. I feel like that was a manufactured crisis.
Speaker 1: To allow her simply to act like that was message
Speaker 1: to the shadowy league figures like, Hey, I'm not that hungover.
Speaker 1: I'm still fixing things. You have disciplined me. You can't
Speaker 1: discipline me. Uh, let's move on. I'll pick that game.
Speaker 1: By the way, I like that game a lot. Iida
Speaker 1: came very close to locking up the Steeler, So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go Pittsburgh Ravens there. I think they're the better
Speaker 1: team and they're more desperate. I think the Ravens bounced
Speaker 1: back in the big spot here. I would take the
Speaker 1: Ravens all right. Let's move on to Chicago Bears. The
Speaker 1: team of around the NFL got back on track last
Speaker 1: week against the Jets, handled them rather easily after a
Speaker 1: slow start. They now travel to Buffalo, so this is
Speaker 1: a get right one to punch for the team of
Speaker 1: at L. They get the Bills and Nathan Peterman almost impossibly,
Speaker 1: Chris Wesley is back in Our Lives, Nathan Peterman back
Speaker 1: in UM. This is still a test for the Bears
Speaker 1: even with Nathan Peterman, because that defense, I mean, I
Speaker 1: I love watching Matt Milano play. He's a fifth round
Speaker 1: pick from last year. He's he's now like almost a
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl level linebacker in the middle of that defense.
Speaker 1: And the Bears have to get Jordan Howard in their
Speaker 1: downhill running game on track. They've got a lot of
Speaker 1: things going right for them. Mitchell Drabinsky, despite all the criticism,
Speaker 1: has an identical passer rating and almost identical rushing numbers
Speaker 1: to Cam Newton. He has almost identical stats to Jared
Speaker 1: Goff's breakout year last year. I'm not saying he's playing
Speaker 1: on that level, but he's probably being picked on a
Speaker 1: little too much. This is a good team. He has
Speaker 1: more touchdowns than Aaron Rodgers or Matthew Stafford through the year.
Speaker 1: The one thing if you don't if you just skipped
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football, which I've came very close to doing,
Speaker 1: but we were required to comment on it during the
Speaker 1: Twitter Show, So I watched the defense version on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: But the final score does not tell the story of
Speaker 1: the fact that that game was nine to six without
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes to go because of Buffalo's defense. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's a tough matchup. I do want to see progress
Speaker 1: from Robinsky. Does show the limitations I think of of
Speaker 1: those statistics. Now, I don't necessarily buy into PFF has
Speaker 1: Drabinsky as the lowest rated just passer, not at quarterback,
Speaker 1: but just in terms of passing by far in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and I and I think there's something to that too.
Speaker 1: I probably have it somewhere between somewhere, but versus anyone
Speaker 1: on Buffalo, versus anyone that qualifies, and Tom Brady's probably
Speaker 1: right behind him. He he has missed far more open throws.
Speaker 1: He's also had far more dropped interceptions fumbles that his
Speaker 1: team has recovered. So he's had a lot of lot,
Speaker 1: a lot of luck. And I do want this team
Speaker 1: to kind of be a real playoff contender and make
Speaker 1: some noise. And I do think Trabisky is gonna have
Speaker 1: to play better than he has, so I want to
Speaker 1: this is a good game to test him. I think
Speaker 1: in Buffalo they've got to be careful because I know
Speaker 1: it sounds crazy. They're probably gonna go in and modown Buffalo.
Speaker 1: But it has trap game feel because you can look
Speaker 1: past this if you want to, and realize that you
Speaker 1: have the Lions twice and the Vikings over the next
Speaker 1: three weeks and that's where the Bears can make major
Speaker 1: ground up in this division. And Buffalo, like they asked
Speaker 1: the Vikings, they with their defense generated so much chaos
Speaker 1: for that Vikings team that the result was totally unexplainable.
Speaker 1: As where Tarrell Prior takes over the team leadership wise,
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy's a leader. The guy's a born leader.
Speaker 1: Everywhere he goes. I like this new Uh, this is
Speaker 1: a new thing. He never this. This is a story
Speaker 1: with Tarrell Prior. I don't know if anybody's aware of this,
Speaker 1: because we did talk about it on YouTube recently, but
Speaker 1: not here Troll Prior. People say, oh, what's what's up
Speaker 1: with Troll Prior? Is he some type of menace? In no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's the other way around. Everywhere Tarrell Prior has went
Speaker 1: in his career, he's left that locker room a better place,
Speaker 1: a better place for his absence. I made. I made
Speaker 1: the comparison. It's Patrick Swayzie and Roadhouse. He's the cleaner.
Speaker 1: He comes in, he finds out what's wrong. You know,
Speaker 1: guys are stealing from the bar. You know, uh, I
Speaker 1: was dealing drugs in the bathroom. People are showing up
Speaker 1: to work late, people are drinking on the job. He
Speaker 1: gets rid of all these type of issues. And then
Speaker 1: once the bars doing well again, once the locker rooms
Speaker 1: doing well again, Troll Prior goes on to the next place.
Speaker 1: So I mean the Jets probably had less locker room
Speaker 1: issues because they only needed in there for five weeks
Speaker 1: or so and then they were were good, perfect, perfect
Speaker 1: locker room Oakland, Washington Jets and now Buffalo You watch, Okay,
Speaker 1: what else? What else about this game? Oh? Tree Cone
Speaker 1: needs a touch of ball more. By the way, come on,
Speaker 1: six touches. That guy is a special part of this offense.
Speaker 1: Had a hundred plus yards in three of the last
Speaker 1: four games. I'm saying, why is he only getting then
Speaker 1: you can untouchdown um Bills have scored six or fewer
Speaker 1: points in four games this season. I mean, Chicago just
Speaker 1: needs to go do their job on offense. Matt Barkley.
Speaker 1: We we could see more Matt Barkley by the end
Speaker 1: of the season. That's how bad things about seen by
Speaker 1: the end of this game. Let's move on the Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers. They are starting Ryan Fitzpatrick at quarterback. Jamis
Speaker 1: Winston to the best. A tough challenge for fits Magic
Speaker 1: because he's going now to Carolina. He's gonna play the Panthers,
Speaker 1: who looked really good, had that amazing fourth quarter comeback
Speaker 1: to beat the Eagles, and that spanked the Ravens, really
Speaker 1: humbled that team. Uh So, Greg, here we are Cam
Speaker 1: Newton and Christian McCaffrey versus the Buccaneers last ranked scoring defense.
Speaker 1: What do you think about this game? I want to
Speaker 1: see the Panthers continue to build their offense. It it
Speaker 1: has a cohesive feel where it's like you're adding elements
Speaker 1: to it throughout the season. In DJ Moore's you know,
Speaker 1: the most important element to me that he if he
Speaker 1: can play anywhere near the level that he didn't be
Speaker 1: make an impact near the level that he did last
Speaker 1: week on a week to week basis, they're gonna be
Speaker 1: tough to deal with. I mean, this is this is
Speaker 1: the first time I went back and looked at Their
Speaker 1: offense is ranked higher in efficiency than their defense since
Speaker 1: two thousand twelve. They're the number five offense and efficiency
Speaker 1: by by Football Outsider seventeen on defense, and they have
Speaker 1: room to play a lot better on defense. Is a
Speaker 1: tough matchup for the book. Doesn't feel like the week
Speaker 1: that d J. Moore would step back into the shadows
Speaker 1: against this Bucks defense. I mean he he had had
Speaker 1: a game a couple of weeks back where he really
Speaker 1: hurt them with turnovers, and he had they pitched to
Speaker 1: him in this game and he dropped it and it
Speaker 1: took a nice bounce. But then you saw his speed
Speaker 1: because he went right up the sideline and he can
Speaker 1: hurt you in so many different ways. Yeah, he reminds
Speaker 1: me a lot of Percy Harvin and we saw that
Speaker 1: last week with the chunk plays. Um, I don't think
Speaker 1: the Panthers, I mean there there are such a much
Speaker 1: more physical and tougher team than the Bucks. But you
Speaker 1: can't take this offense lightly. They average twenty five more
Speaker 1: yards per game than the Rams, forty more yards per
Speaker 1: game than the Chiefs, and they are loaded with weapons
Speaker 1: and they pushed it. They pushed the ball, whether it
Speaker 1: was Winston or Fitzpatrick. Those are that your two leaders
Speaker 1: in the NFL this season in terms of average just
Speaker 1: air yards per attempt. So they're trying to go down
Speaker 1: the field over and over. Right, Fitzpatrick's he playing for
Speaker 1: his job this week? Or do you think he has
Speaker 1: a little bit of rope this time around? I think
Speaker 1: he has wrote more than a week. I think he'd
Speaker 1: have to fail spectacular spectacular literally, but I want to see,
Speaker 1: like if he I mean, he was so accurate early
Speaker 1: in the season, he was playing above his head. I
Speaker 1: think we can admit. So what kind of Fitzpatrick are
Speaker 1: we gonna see? Because he played outstanding last week too
Speaker 1: when he came in. You mentioned Winston Gregg feeling like
Speaker 1: maybe there's a lot in his head about what's gonna
Speaker 1: happen with his career, What's gonna happen in the week
Speaker 1: to week When I watch Fitzpat like Fitzpatrick right now,
Speaker 1: and he when he makes a big play, he's not
Speaker 1: afraid to show total emotion and celebration, and he's it's contagious.
Speaker 1: It's like a late dude is just late career. He
Speaker 1: knows he's not going to be going on for much longer.
Speaker 1: He's totally at ease with himself, and I think that
Speaker 1: makes all the difference at quarterback. That's like playing quarterback
Speaker 1: the way Bruce arians coached. Yeah, it's it's well said.
Speaker 1: He's always been and we've talked about this this year
Speaker 1: because there's been a lot of these little pockets of
Speaker 1: fits magic. He doesn't take it that seriously. It feels
Speaker 1: like he he enjoys this a little bit from a
Speaker 1: distance compared to other players, and he understands it's just
Speaker 1: been a wild ride that he's been on and no
Speaker 1: one expected and everything does surprises people. So he's just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm having fun. There's no pressure. He doesn't play with pressure.
Speaker 1: Let's move on. Oh. The Kansas City Chiefs seven and
Speaker 1: one roping on teams. Do you know the Chiefs Gentlemen
Speaker 1: have only scored less than thirty points once this entire season.
Speaker 1: They've lost once, and they scored forty in that game.
Speaker 1: This is a scoring machine. And now it travels to
Speaker 1: Cleveland to face Greg Williams and the Broonies. I don't
Speaker 1: think they need that illustrious there. Speaking of Greg Williams,
Speaker 1: a lot of people West included, Uh, what's up with
Speaker 1: Greg Williams. He's he's not likable. He seems to be
Speaker 1: somebody that tries to antagonize people on some level. Here's
Speaker 1: what he had to say about it in his Wednesday pressor.
Speaker 1: I'm not looking for a whole lot of friends in
Speaker 1: life anymore. If I want a new friend, I'll buy
Speaker 1: a labrador. Mark. It's a very coach coach esque type answer.
Speaker 1: I don't know that I'm gonna buy my friend. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure that labrador is even gonna like him. Dogs
Speaker 1: have a good sense of people. So are you calling
Speaker 1: that answer? Formula Just slightly less formulaic or more formulaic
Speaker 1: than than My Halloween, which was delightful now that I
Speaker 1: remembering more about it. It It was just by the way
Speaker 1: listens to the show right, she does. She she knows everyone.
Speaker 1: At least she knows that I'm not going to come
Speaker 1: in here like four hours of content a week. She's
Speaker 1: diving into. She watches and listens to all. Listen up, Um,
Speaker 1: Mark's right. You can't have too many Halloween parties. You
Speaker 1: can't send they can't put them in the costume over
Speaker 1: and over again. Make the thirty one the special one
Speaker 1: and give Mark a little bit of well she is
Speaker 1: not She is not to be blamed here because she
Speaker 1: she did nothing wrong in this equation. Why am I
Speaker 1: having this conversation? Said you were powerless, so I was
Speaker 1: trying to help you. You said you couldn't know to
Speaker 1: the Halloween machine. I think she would agree. We were
Speaker 1: in cahoots thinking this is too much. It's just too much.
Speaker 1: Here's one thing, this opinion that you have on Halloween.
Speaker 1: It wasn't broken to her. Listen to this podcast exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: I don't break family news on this show for the
Speaker 1: most All. Right, now, I mentioned this game, they go
Speaker 1: Greg Williams, He's taking over this Brown team. What can
Speaker 1: you expect here? Mark? I think this is Look at
Speaker 1: all that's happened in Cleveland the last week the most
Speaker 1: disastrous situation because now you have the Chiefs coming into town.
Speaker 1: Cleveland's defense has given up the second most big plays
Speaker 1: in the NFL. John Dorsey essentially drafted both of these
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in this game. He built the Chiefs largely, not entirely,
Speaker 1: and I know, without not without some mistakes, he's building
Speaker 1: the Browns. This feels to me like when your old
Speaker 1: girlfriend shows up at your house and you're you have
Speaker 1: a new girlfriend and this old girlfriend shows up rapping
Speaker 1: on the door and she's hammered, and she's determined to
Speaker 1: create total chaos for you. And John Dorsey needs the Browns,
Speaker 1: his new girlfriend essentially to step up and make it
Speaker 1: clear that she's in charge and she's gonna make a
Speaker 1: statement here. Good luck with that, Joan of Arc. It's
Speaker 1: not happening. They're gonna get romped and it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a very ugly first chapter to this. And I don't
Speaker 1: have hammered, but just I think got has her stuff together,
Speaker 1: looking sharp, it's all locked down, and you show up
Speaker 1: and yeah that the Browns are the mess right now? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Well that's one way. I think there's the other type
Speaker 1: of X that shows up with a whole lot of
Speaker 1: saucenter and then she's just there to burn everything to
Speaker 1: the ground. Sounds though she was. She was, But there's
Speaker 1: a reason that you moved on. Trust me, I hear you.
Speaker 1: I feel personally attacked. This is hitting close to home.
Speaker 1: Eric is like everything they're saying is my life. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's amazing to think in three weeks the Browns went
Speaker 1: from one of these stories in the NFL positive stories
Speaker 1: to every other Brown season of the last second. I mean,
Speaker 1: it happened so fast. But you know what, if they
Speaker 1: could I'm not saying they're gonna beat the cheese, but
Speaker 1: you're talking. I'm not saying it up but you know,
Speaker 1: I'm definitely not. But they play well at home sometimes
Speaker 1: and they might rally rally around that. They might be
Speaker 1: relieved as a team that he was finally off the door.
Speaker 1: I would not be shocked at all if they make
Speaker 1: a game of this, I'll just put it that. Put
Speaker 1: it that, and if they could somehow win, you save
Speaker 1: your season and all of a sudden, all this negativity
Speaker 1: goes away. Um. I know it's a long shot, but
Speaker 1: I think the Browns are gonna be competitive this week.
Speaker 1: I just got a bit of Assessler. Okay, I mean,
Speaker 1: I I agree nobody should be shocked if the Browns
Speaker 1: are competitive. They also shouldn't be shocked if it's twenty
Speaker 1: four and nothing after the first quarter. That Cleveland has
Speaker 1: some fatal flaws that are growing more fatal. I mean,
Speaker 1: there is no way to grow more fatal than fatal,
Speaker 1: but they're they're growing. There's more gore attached than with
Speaker 1: the super fat like your left tackle is an absolute disaster.
Speaker 1: D Ford could have a wild game in this year.
Speaker 1: That Thomas by the way, Justin Houston's practicing again too,
Speaker 1: mean it's yeah yeah. And and Greg Williams defense, which
Speaker 1: got a lot of love, including in this room, and
Speaker 1: has a lot of good players. It got him four
Speaker 1: job off right, he said, It's gotten him that eleven
Speaker 1: job offers for where he didn't have to interview two
Speaker 1: coaching jobs in the NFL, which is the highest level
Speaker 1: of professional football in the world. And Greg Williams has
Speaker 1: one of those chairs. Checkmate, Greg Williams one. We believe,
Speaker 1: we should believe everything he says. People bang him the
Speaker 1: door for Greg WILLI I mean, yeah, he wanted to
Speaker 1: go work under Hugh Jackson, take orders from him. For
Speaker 1: what morebody knew he was getting canned. Not a bad
Speaker 1: strategic move. More concerning Lee, he more or less admitted
Speaker 1: he didn't want Freddie Kitchens to be his offensive coordinators.
Speaker 1: He's really starting off. They just asked him about like
Speaker 1: was that his decision and was he involved, and he
Speaker 1: made it clear that he wasn't. In reading between the lines,
Speaker 1: I think he wanted Todd Haley to be his offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: And something happened there in between the time that Hugh
Speaker 1: Jackson and it's a mess, and then Kitchens was making
Speaker 1: a joke to his credit today that like, you know,
Speaker 1: he had to go get to all the job offers
Speaker 1: that he's had. It's like sounds healthy. Mark one little
Speaker 1: Browns trivia before he moved on. The last Browns coach
Speaker 1: to win his first game, Uh, that would be Bud Parson. Correct, correct,
Speaker 1: We're just like taking Patrick Mahomes for granted, by the way, now,
Speaker 1: like he's like expanding the the possibilities of like the
Speaker 1: entire position, and everyone's like, oh, of course he is,
Speaker 1: he's he's he's incredible. I mean, Dan Cleveland lost like
Speaker 1: twenty openers in a row, so I I quickly shot
Speaker 1: back into the bunch of interim options there in the mix.
Speaker 1: But here's a good mahomet He has more four touchdown
Speaker 1: passing games this year in eight weeks than the Browns
Speaker 1: quarterbacks have had in three twelve games since they since
Speaker 1: they got a new team in Well, it's a different league,
Speaker 1: but it's also that is a very Brown's esk. There's
Speaker 1: something rooted in reality there too, Alright. Moving on, more
Speaker 1: sad teams in the room. The New York Jets are
Speaker 1: three and five and not looking good lately. Travel to
Speaker 1: Miami to face the Dolphins, who have really come back
Speaker 1: to earth after that three and oh start. They've lost
Speaker 1: four or five. Uh. They got a couple extra days
Speaker 1: off this time around because they played last Thursday and
Speaker 1: got spanked. Uh. This defense has many, many many holes,
Speaker 1: Chris Westling. But the Jets offense has many, many many holes.
Speaker 1: It's the old movable object versus resistible force. And Matt Burke,
Speaker 1: the Dolphins coordinator who threw a fit on the sidelines
Speaker 1: last week, came out today Thursday and said our issues
Speaker 1: are systemic. We have too many uncovered wide receivers. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make some tweets to the tweaks to the scheme,
Speaker 1: but also players aren't playing to this scheme and starting
Speaker 1: jobs are in jeopardy, so they're they're on notice this
Speaker 1: week against a Jets offense which has been about as
Speaker 1: dysfunctional is the Bill's offense the last couple of weeks. Yes,
Speaker 1: there they had that um game who wasn't against the
Speaker 1: Broncos where they went over three hundred yards as a team.
Speaker 1: Isaiah Cowell went for over two hundred Since then, and
Speaker 1: that's going back now this will be four weeks since
Speaker 1: that game. They've averaged as a team two point two
Speaker 1: yards per carry. So they're getting nothing out of their
Speaker 1: running backs. Uh. We know about their issues with the
Speaker 1: wide receivers, so they get absolutely no a separation from
Speaker 1: the cornerbacks. And over and over and over again. Uh.
Speaker 1: Last week, the only positive for the Jets offense is
Speaker 1: that Donald didn't throw an interception. But over and over
Speaker 1: again he would roll her was right. He would look
Speaker 1: around the field for somebody to be open. Nobody would
Speaker 1: be open. He just throw it out of bounds. And
Speaker 1: that's why his percentage completion percentages as bad as it
Speaker 1: is as it is because in addition to the picks,
Speaker 1: he's been throwing the ball away a lot because there's
Speaker 1: just no one to throw to right now. Pardon me.
Speaker 1: Wants this to be like a show me something Jets
Speaker 1: kind of kind of game, but they're too banged up.
Speaker 1: It's almost too much time. I really wanted to actually
Speaker 1: lock up the Jets because I don't like I hate
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Everybody knows it. I've got some good Jets news.
Speaker 1: What he got. Deante Burnett, who caught passes from Sam
Speaker 1: Donald in college, looked pretty good last week. They have
Speaker 1: a rapport there. Chris herndon the tight end as a
Speaker 1: touchdown in three straight games, and Tony Romo spent the
Speaker 1: whole broadcast salivating over Sam Donald just absolutely loves him
Speaker 1: and basically says, pay no attention to what's going on
Speaker 1: right now. The intangible intangibles like poison, the pocket throwing
Speaker 1: off of dirty platform where he doesn't have to set
Speaker 1: his doesn't get a chance to set his feet, these
Speaker 1: are things. Facial awareness, awareness, These are things that Sam
Speaker 1: Donald is showing. And when the talent improves around him,
Speaker 1: when the play cooler is there, you're gonna see all
Speaker 1: this blossom and it really does make you feel good.
Speaker 1: As a football fan when Tony speaks like that, because
Speaker 1: it's like he's not saying that about Brock Osweiler when
Speaker 1: he's throwing two yards on third and three. Like the
Speaker 1: Dolphins last week offensively went back to kind of what
Speaker 1: you would have expected from Oswelder, but DeVante Parker looked great,
Speaker 1: Like I this is this is a coin flip game,
Speaker 1: and wouldn't I thought you would maybe locked up. I
Speaker 1: thought about the way that Dolphins defense has left, but
Speaker 1: the Jets often Yeah, it's just it's I really did
Speaker 1: want to lock up the Jets, but their offense has
Speaker 1: been that bad where I can't. But I do think
Speaker 1: the Jets will win. And not that I think the
Speaker 1: Jets are gonna hang around, but they're well set up
Speaker 1: to get to their by potentially still in the mix
Speaker 1: because they got home Buffalo next week then thereby, so
Speaker 1: if they can win this game, just buying some type
Speaker 1: of relevance uh to Thanksgiving would be great. As a
Speaker 1: Jets fanis ure, which we haven't had in many years.
Speaker 1: I will take the bullet from Dolphins fans this time
Speaker 1: because this annoyed me when I read this, and it
Speaker 1: in it you want to talk about systemic and issues
Speaker 1: that seemed to plague our thoughts about the Dolphins in general.
Speaker 1: They have started four and four through eight games, obviously
Speaker 1: in six of their last nine seasons and made the
Speaker 1: playoffs once. So these four these starts for Miami, it's
Speaker 1: not just this year. It's like there's not a lot
Speaker 1: of like organizational faith that they're gonna dig out and
Speaker 1: go on some big run. The one time they did
Speaker 1: was two years ago and they were one and done
Speaker 1: in the play right, and they're one and four in
Speaker 1: their last five and Gaze, even if he is pretty
Speaker 1: good doing what he can with the offensive pieces he has,
Speaker 1: like this is the team that he's helped built, and
Speaker 1: he's had no clue on how to fix the defense.
Speaker 1: It's been pretty lousy despite spending a lot of money
Speaker 1: on that side to the ball ever since he's been there.
Speaker 1: Let's move on. The Detroit Lions are three and four UH,
Speaker 1: coming off a two score loss to the Seahawks at home.
Speaker 1: It's a bad loss when you look at their schedule.
Speaker 1: They got the Vikings now coming up UH, and the
Speaker 1: Vikings are not going to be thrilled. They're not happy.
Speaker 1: They can't be because they really um greg played poorly
Speaker 1: on Sunday Night Football, right they did. I think this
Speaker 1: is that they haven't changed that much throughout the course
Speaker 1: of the season. I wasn't that impressed with how they
Speaker 1: looked against the Jets for the most part. The problems
Speaker 1: that they have where they can't really protect Kirk Cousins,
Speaker 1: their running game is erratic at best. Those those haven't
Speaker 1: really changed. And so it's a matchup where Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: against hit all the time against a team that has
Speaker 1: one of the worst pass rushers in the league in
Speaker 1: the Lions. So it's like again, weakness on weakness, which
Speaker 1: is gonna be worse. Vikings are banged up. I thought
Speaker 1: they look damn good in that game until the theme
Speaker 1: of fumble and then everything just everything changed. I mean,
Speaker 1: that doesn't have to be the way it is. You're
Speaker 1: allowed to not collapse when you have a turnover. So
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to give them too much credit.
Speaker 1: And they're also going through some injury. Stephan Diggs has
Speaker 1: a rib issue this week, Xavier Rhodes and Anthony Barr
Speaker 1: had been banged up. Dalvin Cooks so they're not as
Speaker 1: strong as they could be. They they fall to four
Speaker 1: or four and one if they lose I mean that
Speaker 1: Lions Seahawks game. My one thought coming out of that,
Speaker 1: because the Lions has sort of done these things that
Speaker 1: impress you, and then they dip back down. They just
Speaker 1: got beaten by a better Seattle team. They just they
Speaker 1: just are not the class of Sea. This isn't it's
Speaker 1: not another like last chance game. But if you win
Speaker 1: this and you're the lines, it's like everyone in that
Speaker 1: division might be four and four just about. The Bears
Speaker 1: would probably be in first place after this. And but
Speaker 1: if you lose it, you're you're losing touch with the
Speaker 1: teams that just look better than you week after. I'll
Speaker 1: go a little further than that, Greg and say they're
Speaker 1: done if they lose this week, if they follow to
Speaker 1: three and five and then they got at Chicago home
Speaker 1: against Carolina Chicago, then the Rams, I just don't stretch.
Speaker 1: I don't see how they come out of that with
Speaker 1: at least two or three more losses. And then you
Speaker 1: know you're staring down the barrel of eight and Nate,
Speaker 1: if you're lucky, they have enough playmakers that you give
Speaker 1: him a fighting chance in any game, you know, against
Speaker 1: a team like the Vikings Stafford for three weeks, not
Speaker 1: last week, was playing as well as any quarterback in
Speaker 1: the league for about a three week stretch. You still
Speaker 1: have Marvin Jones, you still have Gola Day and your
Speaker 1: boy carry On Johnson, to me has a new weekly
Speaker 1: feature which I appreciate, which is like the get off me,
Speaker 1: carry on Johnson play of the week. I mean, he
Speaker 1: just that's what separates him. He slides and he makes
Speaker 1: people missed, but he throws a defender down or two
Speaker 1: every week. He did it ta Kiko Alonso, basically took
Speaker 1: his manhood. Alonso hasn't been the same since. And he
Speaker 1: did it to Justin Coleman, the slot cornerback of the
Speaker 1: Seahawks last week. It was just like his arms are
Speaker 1: flapping around when he's running. He's a fun guy to watch.
Speaker 1: Give him a chance. The one we talked about it
Speaker 1: in our awards mark last week, is there another MVP candidate.
Speaker 1: And I know wide receivers never get the award. It
Speaker 1: has actually never happened since nineteen But if Adam Cleland
Speaker 1: now matches his first half production, he would go on
Speaker 1: for eighteen fifty and twelve probably would have to be
Speaker 1: in the discussion if that happened, I mean in terms
Speaker 1: of the not over one season, but over multiple seasons
Speaker 1: of one hundred yard streaks. I think he can tie
Speaker 1: uh Megatron this week and then he'd still be two
Speaker 1: or three behind Michael Irvin. That happened over the course
Speaker 1: of two years. But it's pretty improbable and crazy what
Speaker 1: he's doing. He's on pace to break Marvin Harrison's record.
Speaker 1: Did you say that? I thought it was like Michael
Speaker 1: Irvin was in the conversation from what I read too,
Speaker 1: for most receptions in a season. Right, I'm doing the hundred.
Speaker 1: There's that in the hundred yard consecutives as different guys.
Speaker 1: He's also on my mid season All Pro team along
Speaker 1: with DeAndre Hopkins. You know NFL dot com slash Wesley.
Speaker 1: How did he sneak onto that list? Yeah? Wait, where's
Speaker 1: your vanity? You didn't give you one? Well, last year
Speaker 1: it was Matt Harmon and me tag team in this
Speaker 1: project and it was NFL dot Com slash All Pro Teams.
Speaker 1: It's still showing up his last year's list. That's that's
Speaker 1: a major foul by this, I mean they could still
Speaker 1: work one that. Direct all your complaints to Ali Bam Puri.
Speaker 1: He will fix that. Who pulled off a very convincing
Speaker 1: Freddie Mercury at the Halloween costume event last night. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's good for him. Moving on, I'm going to see
Speaker 1: that movie tomorrow, actually, Bohemian Rhapsody in theaters nationwide maybe too. Also,
Speaker 1: you want to go together. I am supposed to be
Speaker 1: doing sort of a date thing nice the significant other,
Speaker 1: so well, you're allowed to go. I mean, maybe we'll
Speaker 1: be there at the same time. I'm gonna be one
Speaker 1: row behind you as you want. Are you not? You're not?
Speaker 1: You're not. Maybe we could maybe be there at the
Speaker 1: same time. I don't because I'm not certain I'm going.
Speaker 1: That's my new favorite thing is Daddy has a little
Speaker 1: pocket of time. I go to the movies enjoy myself there,
Speaker 1: not in that way. I No one sounds great. Was
Speaker 1: thinking about pee weee. The Atlanta Falcons are coming off
Speaker 1: there bye week. They're three and four, but it's a
Speaker 1: good three and four when you got two straight winds
Speaker 1: going into your by and now you get the Washington
Speaker 1: Redskins who are playing real well three straight winds. Mark
Speaker 1: are the Redskins. Yes, they're five and two. They lead
Speaker 1: the NFC East to you, are they a legitimate contender
Speaker 1: though in the NFC leg in terms of hop scotching
Speaker 1: the Rams and the Saints and going to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: You know, But I would say this about the Redskins,
Speaker 1: that we've spent all season as most most anyone covering
Speaker 1: football talking about the wrong Gruden, and that the Redskins
Speaker 1: right now have a great record down the stretch of
Speaker 1: who they face, They've got a pretty clear path to
Speaker 1: win the division if they don't crumble. This when I
Speaker 1: go back and watch these games, this is one of
Speaker 1: my favorite teams to watch each week, maybe even my
Speaker 1: second favorite team besides the one from Cleveland that totally
Speaker 1: just turned into a gigantic, uh space fire from outer space.
Speaker 1: But I will say this, the defense I think is fantastic.
Speaker 1: They're an old type of school team. I don't say
Speaker 1: space fire. I don't know what losing just like a
Speaker 1: fire from outer space, Yeah I'm losing, or just get
Speaker 1: space fire to fire in space coming from out You know,
Speaker 1: if you're writing, you edit, I would have taken that out.
Speaker 1: But I'm just going on the fly here, you know,
Speaker 1: I I almost wanted to lock up the Redskins in
Speaker 1: this game. But I don't quite trust them yet, looking
Speaker 1: at how they dealt with the Cults and how they
Speaker 1: dealt against the Saints that when they play some of
Speaker 1: these offenses that can become explosive. The Redskins seemed to
Speaker 1: score about twenty points a game, so it felt a
Speaker 1: little wrong. Just can't lock it up almost. This is
Speaker 1: like last week I locked up four teams, went two
Speaker 1: and two, very proud of that. This is your new bit.
Speaker 1: As you're you've almost locked too. I almost locked up
Speaker 1: the Redskins in this one too. I thought about the
Speaker 1: Skins as well here and it's not because I fear
Speaker 1: the Falcons in any way whatsoever. I think this is
Speaker 1: the Redskins are gonna push the Falcons around in an
Speaker 1: outdoor game. Falcons are without both starting guards for the
Speaker 1: season on offense, and they're two most important players on defense,
Speaker 1: and the Redskins have a loaded defense. I've been hoping,
Speaker 1: I guess that the Falcons would get back into the mix.
Speaker 1: I think this is a very winnable game. I think
Speaker 1: the the Redskins are not a legit cont ender really
Speaker 1: in the NFC. There they are so much more physical
Speaker 1: than they're a bet they're a better team, and but
Speaker 1: they better quarterback by far is in Atlanta. The better
Speaker 1: offense is with Atlanta, and so I just give them
Speaker 1: a chance. And I and I've said it a bunch
Speaker 1: this year, I give this coaching staff a chance that
Speaker 1: they're gonna start fixing or getting a little better on
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball, because their offense is
Speaker 1: good enough to win games by themselves coming off the
Speaker 1: after this game, like because they're coming off of a
Speaker 1: bye week and they're playing a pretty lame offense. And
Speaker 1: Thompson's not back, Chris Thompson's not back, Jamison Crowder is
Speaker 1: not back. I mean this is this is a pretty
Speaker 1: bad offense. Alex Smith doesn't use Jordan Read nearly enough.
Speaker 1: The most dependable wide receiver by catch rate since in
Speaker 1: the NFL is Jordan Read, and they Austin Hooper the
Speaker 1: Falcons tight ends having a better year. I've I've heard
Speaker 1: you say though, like that West that you know that
Speaker 1: the trade isn't for Alex Smith isn't looking too good
Speaker 1: and that terrible, And I kind of think it's like,
Speaker 1: what did we expect? I had higher expectations, But if
Speaker 1: you just look at it, his numbers right now are
Speaker 1: almost identical to his average numbers in Kansas City except
Speaker 1: for two thousand seventeen, almost identical. They'd haven't had Thompson,
Speaker 1: they don't have Crowder. You know, they're winning games. It's
Speaker 1: like this is Alex Smith. Maybe my expectations too are
Speaker 1: too high, but it's like they're getting perfect. It reminds
Speaker 1: me of all those Chiefs teams. He's the reason I
Speaker 1: feel like they can't get over the hump against the
Speaker 1: rd team's dance mentioned in the NFC. He he did
Speaker 1: get better, uh last year. Of course, maybe you've got
Speaker 1: to give him a couple more weapons too. I don't
Speaker 1: think there's an overwhelming skill level with their skill players.
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of talent there. He's as good
Speaker 1: as you can be by playing quarterback in a way
Speaker 1: where you only take what the defense gives you right,
Speaker 1: never take, never, never gets intercepted, which is which is
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Speaker 1: Dan back to you, alright. The Euston Texans have won
Speaker 1: five straight after that UM three straight us is to
Speaker 1: start the season. In fact, this is the second longest
Speaker 1: winning streak after an old three start in the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl area. You gotta go back to the nineteen seventy
Speaker 1: Gremon who won six straight. Uh and now they travel
Speaker 1: to Denver to face the Texans. You know, these are
Speaker 1: two teams West going in opposite directions because the Broncos
Speaker 1: have lost five of six after they won their first
Speaker 1: UH two games in a row. So this is a
Speaker 1: big game for the Broncos going into their by I
Speaker 1: imagine it's a big game for Vance Joseph, who's but
Speaker 1: might be a little bit hot right now. They there's
Speaker 1: a lot of common DNA in this matchup. This is
Speaker 1: the Gary Kubiak Bowl if it's not that the Marius
Speaker 1: Thomas bull Um h. I'm worried about the matchup for
Speaker 1: the Texans UH, specifically their offensive line against Von Miller
Speaker 1: and Bradley Chubb, who's been coming on of late, coming
Speaker 1: off the edge against those tackles. But also a more
Speaker 1: intriguing matchup to me, the Broncos offensive line, which you
Speaker 1: know gets very little credit and has been pointed as
Speaker 1: pretty poor and pass for tection, is one of the
Speaker 1: best run blocking units in the league. Philip Lindsay's averaging
Speaker 1: almost six yards per carrying. It's not just because Philip
Speaker 1: Lindsay's elusive, it's because he's running through big holes against J. J. Watton,
Speaker 1: Jadevion Clowney, the best defensive run stopping duet at defensive
Speaker 1: end in the league. King has played pretty well the
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, not against the best, relative to
Speaker 1: how he played early in the season, He's played fine.
Speaker 1: If he played that well, if he played like he
Speaker 1: did the last two weeks all season, I think they'd
Speaker 1: be happy. If it's not like he's kind of this
Speaker 1: season's kind of been a roller coaster, like his career
Speaker 1: has been a roller coaster. If they could get him
Speaker 1: to be steady, they're actually not you know, they're kind
Speaker 1: of a fun watch because of what you pointed out
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season, Cortland, Sutton, Philip Lindsay
Speaker 1: and the young guys there coaster that I get. Am
Speaker 1: I the only one annoyed by the fact that down
Speaker 1: in our newsomer anywhere, all I've heard about six thousand
Speaker 1: times is the Demerius Thomas revenge game. Is that how anyone?
Speaker 1: I think It's just kind of an unusual circumstance that
Speaker 1: you would this high um, you know, this well known
Speaker 1: wide receiver get traded and then four days later face
Speaker 1: the team he played eleven years with. They did him
Speaker 1: a favorite, put him on a playoff team talking about
Speaker 1: being in the ring of fame. I mean, why would
Speaker 1: there be any revenge the circumstance of a thing. Revenge
Speaker 1: game has become more of a thing, and that the
Speaker 1: thing I'm interested in. It's like Ken the Watson Texans
Speaker 1: offense build on what we saw last week, because this
Speaker 1: could be a really intriguing team in the a f C,
Speaker 1: but they really haven't done it offensively week after week.
Speaker 1: They got rid of the ball last week quickly, like
Speaker 1: it's starting to make a little more sense, and so
Speaker 1: if we can see it again in a road environment,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what to that point, mm hmm. I
Speaker 1: like the Texans. I feel like they're gonna be a
Speaker 1: team that's gonna be around and I think there's no
Speaker 1: fluke to what's going on with that offense last week,
Speaker 1: even against a bad Miami team. I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: get better and better with the Shawn Watson and West.
Speaker 1: You made good points, but it doesn't matter because the
Speaker 1: Texans are gonna win. And the Zeuser, who's locked up
Speaker 1: four in a row, he's gonna make a five. Lock
Speaker 1: it up. Houston Texans. Keep those tubs rolling right into
Speaker 1: the bye I really like this lock as somebody who
Speaker 1: doesn't want you to continue your winnings. I'm feeling good,
Speaker 1: feeling good about these Houston Texans. Bring on the Broncos.
Speaker 1: You kidding me with the Broncos clowns. Let's move on.
Speaker 1: Nothing personal, it just it just is what it is.
Speaker 1: The Los Angeles Chargers are five and two, four game
Speaker 1: winning streak, feeling good about themselves coming out of a bye,
Speaker 1: so they're rested up. They travel to Seattle to face
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, uh, who just beat up on the lines
Speaker 1: there four and three to second place teams in their
Speaker 1: respective divisions. Greg, which one of these teams do you
Speaker 1: like better? I feel like this is like the Greg
Speaker 1: Bowl a little bit. I'll still take the Chargers, but
Speaker 1: I'm not convinced they are better. But to your point,
Speaker 1: you're right. I mean, look at the games this week.
Speaker 1: You can have your you know your Steelers Ravens, and
Speaker 1: you know rams Saints are gonna be oh America's game
Speaker 1: of the week. At there's Packers Patriots, Like you can't
Speaker 1: decide what's my game of the week. Fox, My America
Speaker 1: starts at four oh five. I don't care if there's overtime.
Speaker 1: Games in the early up. Catching that first ft, first
Speaker 1: snap in this game, I'm locking up that this is
Speaker 1: my favorite game of the week. I have no idea
Speaker 1: who's gonna what do you think the impact on these
Speaker 1: on the Chargers slash Seahawks locker rooms to be if
Speaker 1: they knew that this was the Greg Bull. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of it with a lot of pressure, and it's
Speaker 1: one of it's one of the best possible matchups. When
Speaker 1: the Chargers offenses on the field, they have the number
Speaker 1: two passing offense right now. The Seahawks pass defense is
Speaker 1: number three in the league according to Football Outsiders, and
Speaker 1: all the guys are playing well, justin Coleman, Bradley McDougald,
Speaker 1: t Drich Thompson. I'm just looking forward to like seeing
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers go for those bombs in Seattle, because you
Speaker 1: know he's gonna go for it, and that just has
Speaker 1: not been how you beat the Seattle team. They I
Speaker 1: thought they missed Melvin Gordon and he's not practicing fully,
Speaker 1: so I don't expect him to be. But they didn't
Speaker 1: do much scoring without misplays by the Titans cornerbacks in
Speaker 1: that game, so I want to see if that offense
Speaker 1: is really at full strength and not a cold water
Speaker 1: move here by the Zeuser. But we still have to
Speaker 1: see how the Chargers play against good teams five and
Speaker 1: oh against all the sub five hundred teams on their schedule.
Speaker 1: They got beat down by the Chiefs and Rams allowed
Speaker 1: the teams have There's no no shame in that. This
Speaker 1: is a good Seahawks team. So this will be one
Speaker 1: of the reasons I've thought the Seahawks might be a
Speaker 1: playoff team despite a very tough schedule. They've only played
Speaker 1: two games at home. I mean they they have. They
Speaker 1: have done very well on the road there one and
Speaker 1: one at home this year with that close loss to
Speaker 1: the Rams. They are normally a very tough home team.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the Chargers are absolutely underdogs in
Speaker 1: this game, especially the way Russell Wilson in the last
Speaker 1: three weeks. It's his numbers are outrageous. He has nine
Speaker 1: touchdowns in one interception, thrown only twenty passes a week
Speaker 1: like he's He's thrown for like twelve thirteen yards per attempt.
Speaker 1: This is like Pete Carroll's dream right now. What is
Speaker 1: happening with the Seahawks off? Could that because of the
Speaker 1: presence of move tight end at Dixon. I mean probably
Speaker 1: play last week. That's probably more than David Moore at Dickson.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on now. Now let's pick that
Speaker 1: and you want to pick it, pick it's I'm taking
Speaker 1: the Seahawks at home. Yeah, at the clink. This was
Speaker 1: my shy away game of the week, like number one
Speaker 1: game to stay away from in the locks. I'm taking
Speaker 1: the Seahawks at home. This is the show me something
Speaker 1: both for the Chargers. Go get it done. You haven't
Speaker 1: made the playoffs since you've been talented the entire time
Speaker 1: on the road. Absolutely, yes, yes, there's no repercussions. Triple
Speaker 1: Triple G Bowl. Uh. He thinks that's America's game of
Speaker 1: the week, But there's only one, and it's gonna be
Speaker 1: in New Orleans at the super Dome where the Los
Speaker 1: Angeles Rams. Halfway through the regular season, slate perfection eight
Speaker 1: and oh they travel to face the Saints six and
Speaker 1: one and playing great. They of course got tore up
Speaker 1: by Ryan Fitzpatrick. How long ago does that feel? Almost
Speaker 1: a fifty burger dropped on him by Ryan Fitzpatrick. And
Speaker 1: week week one they haven't lost since. So here are
Speaker 1: two teams, uh Mark that really you can make a
Speaker 1: case that these are definitely, definitely for one of them.
Speaker 1: This is the two best teams in the NFC going
Speaker 1: head to head. This is what we like agree. I
Speaker 1: can't help but wonder also if Sean Payton is just
Speaker 1: a little because he seems like someone who might get
Speaker 1: a little annoyed at things and hold onto stuff, maybe
Speaker 1: just a little bit annoyed that he's being shoved into
Speaker 1: the background by another Sean. It's all everyone's yeah, everyone
Speaker 1: authoring these sort of flowery thing pieces about Sean Nick.
Speaker 1: And maybe at this point he's watching Sean McVeigh every week.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's saying that. I'm sure he's saying that,
Speaker 1: but he's I think he's furious. I think I think
Speaker 1: that we're gonna get in this game. And because we've
Speaker 1: been seeing Taysom Hill, for instance, someone like Taysom Hill
Speaker 1: used in amazing ways, that we're going to get a
Speaker 1: headline type play from Taysom Hill that either wins this
Speaker 1: game or does something that is so memorable because it's
Speaker 1: with Sean Payton's way of taking the Shan bull back
Speaker 1: and all the Shawn attention back onto him. I I
Speaker 1: know the Rams have looked unbeatable, but I don't think
Speaker 1: that's the case comes Sunday night locking it up for
Speaker 1: the Saints. I love the idea, great luck that Sean
Speaker 1: Payton's massive ego is driving the game plan. That's definitely true.
Speaker 1: By the way, I just feel that he might be
Speaker 1: staring at the screen watching Sean McVeigh, but he's not
Speaker 1: watching it like, oh, great, great play call. Oh I
Speaker 1: love this and this analysis by the announcers throwing praise
Speaker 1: all over Sean McVeigh. He's like, I'm the real Sean,
Speaker 1: I'm the genius, I'm the look at my track record
Speaker 1: the last fifteen years in this league. You guys are
Speaker 1: both feeling this. Huht I totally buy it. I almost
Speaker 1: want but Mark Handle, I feel like I say this
Speaker 1: every week that you go into New Orleans where they
Speaker 1: play so much better at home, and I feel like
Speaker 1: they're gonna unload on the Rams, and at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I will pick the Rams to win
Speaker 1: because I have that much faith in their coaching staff,
Speaker 1: which isn't just Sean McVeigh. It's Bones, and it's Wade
Speaker 1: Phillips and it's Shane Waldron and this is now you
Speaker 1: sund like Sean McVeigh, I mean Sean Payton getting confused.
Speaker 1: I love what I hear from their players too. They
Speaker 1: are a smart team, they play cohesively, they are a
Speaker 1: proud team. They're either, they're a physical team. I love
Speaker 1: everything about what's going on with the Rams, and I
Speaker 1: think they'll just find a way to win. They're gonna
Speaker 1: try to have a tough time matching up with Alvin Kamara.
Speaker 1: I mean every team does. Maybe it's Littleton. I don't
Speaker 1: really know. He was out of practice because he's sick
Speaker 1: on Thursday. But it does not sound like Alvin Kamara
Speaker 1: is gonna miss this game. Marsha and Lattimore played a
Speaker 1: little better last week. He's been very quiet throughout the season,
Speaker 1: coming off that great rookie year. That's something to feel
Speaker 1: better about. But I'm a little worried that they trade
Speaker 1: for Eli Apple and they just play him seventy snaps.
Speaker 1: It doesn't really look that guy. I mean, it was
Speaker 1: a tough matchup, but didn't really look that. He probably
Speaker 1: got kicked to the curb. Yeah that uh. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: lock it up too though, because that was my plan before,
Speaker 1: so I changed it you're locking up the Saints. I
Speaker 1: like that we can be on the same beam, the
Speaker 1: same side, maybe go down the other end. I wanted
Speaker 1: to switch, but it's too late. There's only two big
Speaker 1: favorites left. I think, Wait, so the two people in
Speaker 1: this room locking up against the undefeated team. I just
Speaker 1: don't see too many other opportunities for the race lose
Speaker 1: and go anything but undefeated. If this is their spot.
Speaker 1: Where if the Saints when you talk about four great
Speaker 1: teams that are gonna beet in the NFC Championship in
Speaker 1: AFC without much question, if the Saints can't handle it here,
Speaker 1: they're not gonna handle it. It's a coin flip game,
Speaker 1: but you'd much rather have it be you know, in
Speaker 1: New Orleans you got a little you know, banged up.
Speaker 1: We'll see if Cooper Cup is back. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's a coin flip game. While you
Speaker 1: locking it, well, there are we have to choose coin
Speaker 1: flip games, right league. You know, indoors, you picked a
Speaker 1: coin flip game too. I thought that I don't feel
Speaker 1: it's a coin flip game. I feel confidently about the
Speaker 1: Texans that even though some outsiders will say it's a
Speaker 1: coin flip. So do you you feel confidently about the Saints.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of personally, I feel like I'm sort of
Speaker 1: just swinging at this point. You gotta get you gotta
Speaker 1: do something to get noticed. You know. Well, you've locked
Speaker 1: up four games last week, so you're doing all right.
Speaker 1: Moving on prime time football, the Green Bay Packers three
Speaker 1: three and one. Aaron Rodgers practicing in full feeling good.
Speaker 1: That knee maybe not bothering him as much anymore. Well,
Speaker 1: he's got a challenge now he's going to Jillette because
Speaker 1: the powers that be Operation Pink Pony said, Oh, it's
Speaker 1: been tough. We we haven't had the Patriots at home
Speaker 1: in prime time in a while. Let's get them back
Speaker 1: in their building at night. So here we go. Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers versus Tom Brady, too of the greatest quarterbacks of
Speaker 1: all time, at the height of their respective powers. Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick said this week, Aaron Rodgers is as good as
Speaker 1: any quarterback he's ever faced. And of course he was
Speaker 1: asked about Brady after that, and he said, took the
Speaker 1: easy way out. Well, I've never had to face Tom Braid. Um,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is healthy. Their wide receivers are healthy, Aaron
Speaker 1: Jones is rolling and needs to play more snaps, Jay
Speaker 1: Alexander is healthy, and Aaron Rodgers was asked what he
Speaker 1: learned in the Rams game, and he said, if they
Speaker 1: are the best the league has to offer, we're not
Speaker 1: far off. And I totally believe that. I look at
Speaker 1: the personnel in these matchups and it leads me to
Speaker 1: lock up the Packers for the stronger team, and the
Speaker 1: quarterback is playing much better than the other quarterback. I
Speaker 1: love it was I love what. I love it. I
Speaker 1: love it. I love it. That's how you do it, West,
Speaker 1: I love it. Come on, Greg, what are you gonna
Speaker 1: do about that? He's coming up? Can I switch it
Speaker 1: to the Patriots or something? That what you're saying? That
Speaker 1: what you want? Sure we got a lock off, we
Speaker 1: got oh look, oh all right, you got unders obviously,
Speaker 1: Well you just yeah, you just allowed me to switch
Speaker 1: from like kind of a coin flip game to a
Speaker 1: reasonably heavy favor in the Patriots. So I don't know
Speaker 1: if that took many onions as they're done. Know what
Speaker 1: they're talking about, Greg, Packers have the stronger roster. The
Speaker 1: one thing I'd be worried, not worried about is this
Speaker 1: about Mark? He was all happy to be locked in
Speaker 1: with you, seem I will be rooting on the Saints
Speaker 1: and Mark's lock along with him at that. I'd be
Speaker 1: lying if I said I wasn't worried about the disparity
Speaker 1: between Bill Belichick and Mike McCarthy. That's a problem. I'm
Speaker 1: always a little worried about bold Lock coming off of
Speaker 1: You know, when you're coming off of two kind of
Speaker 1: headline games the week before, you take a lot out
Speaker 1: of those two weeks, right, and the Patriots are coming
Speaker 1: off kind of an ugly rock fight type of game.
Speaker 1: I don't take much out of that was a division
Speaker 1: game on the road. It's a short week, which you
Speaker 1: don't like to see. Shack Mason might miss this game,
Speaker 1: which is a big loss for them going up against
Speaker 1: Grons not practice. So those those are concerns your wide
Speaker 1: receiver as you're running back right. But on balance, the
Speaker 1: Packers I want to see them do it week after
Speaker 1: week at the level that they played at in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: because that's not really the Packers team that we've seen.
Speaker 1: It's they were in Rogers that we've seen. I think
Speaker 1: he is solidly number three. I got I got my
Speaker 1: quarterback rankings up this week the mid season one to
Speaker 1: thirty two, and to me, it's Mahomes and Breezes are
Speaker 1: one and two for sure, and Rogers isn't too far
Speaker 1: off there for number three, and there's a pretty good
Speaker 1: gap after those three, and so he of course can
Speaker 1: shred the Patriots in any given week. Belichick also went
Speaker 1: out of his way to praise jeral Alexander. I mean
Speaker 1: he gushed over him and the way he played last week.
Speaker 1: Five passes defense, Like that's more than any Packers rookie
Speaker 1: going back, way way. Wait, one thing about Brady you mentioned,
Speaker 1: like when I watch him run, you know who, it
Speaker 1: reminds him right now Bernie Kozar at the end. Bernie Kozar,
Speaker 1: like when he was playing and even in his prime,
Speaker 1: was like a bit of a gangly runner. And Brady
Speaker 1: just has these giant shoes with the tape wrap around him,
Speaker 1: and he just as he looks like an old guy.
Speaker 1: He just looks like an old guy. EI are from
Speaker 1: another era. But the difference is Brady still moves really
Speaker 1: well in the pocket and most of when he takes
Speaker 1: off he just looks. It does not look pretty. It's
Speaker 1: not it's not good? Can I bumping? Can I can I?
Speaker 1: This is a sensitive topic because your boys, Greg and West,
Speaker 1: I know you you think very highly of this player
Speaker 1: and Mark you do too, just as a football fan,
Speaker 1: are we and Erica as well as a major Patriots backer?
Speaker 1: Are we post Gronk? I know he's beat up right now.
Speaker 1: Can't judge is always gonna be hurt now or we
Speaker 1: passed the r where he is that singular, dominant talent
Speaker 1: and there's just you just got to maybe expect a
Speaker 1: little bit less at this point in his career. Yes,
Speaker 1: My answer to that would be I've heard Greg say
Speaker 1: yes to this question three times over the years, and
Speaker 1: every time Gronk hasn't made your injury, Greg and a
Speaker 1: lot of other people say, there's no way he's coming
Speaker 1: back strong because it's that major of an injury and
Speaker 1: he's played at that high of a level, and every
Speaker 1: time he comes back better. But West eventually those injuries
Speaker 1: and I agree, I'm just not gonna him. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying that you said to expect him to be
Speaker 1: at that dominant top shelf, and you've said that over
Speaker 1: the year. We're at We're at a pretty good sample
Speaker 1: site here with half a season. So this half a season,
Speaker 1: he's not at that levet not that's a pretty significant
Speaker 1: portion where he's on the field and he's really good.
Speaker 1: He's still one of the best tight ends in the league.
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna get a a well. He hasn't for years,
Speaker 1: but it remains to be seen if that's purely a
Speaker 1: product of something temporary or permanent. The problem is, let's
Speaker 1: say you get some version of it for the rest
Speaker 1: of the year. I'm not convinced he comes back next year.
Speaker 1: And even this version is making unbelievable plays like that
Speaker 1: when he's still the most valuable guy on the offense
Speaker 1: other than Brady, even at this level. So it's not
Speaker 1: and it's right, it's not even close. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: still That's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: he's not the best tight end in the league anymore.
Speaker 1: I mean, Brady's not on my All Pro team. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you, Okay, yeah, I just because you take he
Speaker 1: made that great sideline catch, but hands he just seems
Speaker 1: he just seems older than his twenty nine years to meet.
Speaker 1: Right now, here's the thing. We compare him to Travis Kelsey,
Speaker 1: it's like Travis Kelsey is not a tight end in
Speaker 1: the way that Rob Gronkowski is a tight end. It's
Speaker 1: not just that, hey, he blocks sometimes he's good at it.
Speaker 1: I mean he's in blocking thirty forty snaps a game
Speaker 1: sometimes and Kelsey is just not doing that. So he's
Speaker 1: extremely valuable for that offense. But there's been a decline.
Speaker 1: There's been a decline for Brady. I mean, I'm surprised
Speaker 1: you haven't gradual right now. We're at the mid season
Speaker 1: I haven't about number ten in the mid season rankings.
Speaker 1: That feel is about right, Like, if this is a decline,
Speaker 1: I'm fine with it because he's still playing at a
Speaker 1: very high level. But he hasn't had the timing down
Speaker 1: with this. Something looks a little off. He's missed a
Speaker 1: lot of throws this year, but that has to do
Speaker 1: with like they are so banged up. But there's something
Speaker 1: with Brady just looks a little like even him and
Speaker 1: Edelman have not been on the same page. So maybe
Speaker 1: it's just they got to have the same lineup in
Speaker 1: week after week. They've had a lot not much continuity.
Speaker 1: Could be coming from a point of weakness on this pick, Dan,
Speaker 1: because the NFL needs the Packers to win this game.
Speaker 1: They they are on a haunted hay ride of a
Speaker 1: schedule right now that started with the Rams game, and
Speaker 1: and at New England. You get a break with the
Speaker 1: Dolphins at home next week, then at Seattle at Minnesota,
Speaker 1: the Packers. Every time Aaron Rodgers healthy, they're in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And we need to see that as a country, as
Speaker 1: a people who like to watch football, we want to
Speaker 1: see Aaron Rodgers to this game. I mean that that
Speaker 1: is up there. Other than like Mark taking the Browns
Speaker 1: seventeen different times, that's maybe the biggest onion hanger that
Speaker 1: we've seen in that In this segment. Let's move on
Speaker 1: Monday Night football the Tennessee Tytoons. It was nice a
Speaker 1: week without the Titans. That was nice. That's over now
Speaker 1: though they're back in action. UH coming off three straight
Speaker 1: losses thirteen twelve to the Bills twenty one. Nothing to
Speaker 1: the Ravens who have promptly went in the tank at
Speaker 1: nineteen at Los Angeles against the Chargers. Now they're at
Speaker 1: Dallas in London, excuse me, now they are at Alice.
Speaker 1: Uh also coming off of bye, so they got uh
Speaker 1: two teams that should be theoretically at a good health level. Greg,
Speaker 1: Which three and four team do you think it's a
Speaker 1: better chance of making the playoffs? The Cowboys because of
Speaker 1: the division they're in. I think their defense is the
Speaker 1: best unit on the field in this game. But you
Speaker 1: know the matchup I want to see. It's like Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett coming off of bye versus uh, Mike Rabel and
Speaker 1: the staff going up a bye. Who's who's got each other?
Speaker 1: They both made changes of a rare both both teams
Speaker 1: are coming off and bye, and then they put you
Speaker 1: on Monday night. Yeah, I don't know what's up with that.
Speaker 1: Cowboys fired their online coach. The Titans brought back a fullback,
Speaker 1: Jostin Fowler, which I think signals their intention to try
Speaker 1: to get a running game started. They've been playing without
Speaker 1: a fullback. I think that's what The Cowboys also went
Speaker 1: out and got a wide receiver, and the Titans, who
Speaker 1: had some of the worst wide receiver play in the
Speaker 1: entire NFL, stood pat at that position. Mary Cooper right
Speaker 1: as West is alluding to, he's now a member of
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. This will be his debut game, So you're
Speaker 1: gonna see this is two teams they've combined for thirteen
Speaker 1: touchdown passes this season. Fourteen qbis in the league have
Speaker 1: more on their own. So two teams that have not
Speaker 1: been able to move the ball in the air, and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys did something about it, and the Titans said,
Speaker 1: we're gonna figure this out. And the five worst QB
Speaker 1: ratings in the league include four rookies and Marcus Mariota.
Speaker 1: And he's looked like it played a little better, certainly
Speaker 1: in that game, you know, before the bye. He's had
Speaker 1: a couple of moments. It's been ugly. The thing with
Speaker 1: them trying to like established the run again, It's like
Speaker 1: no team has been trying to establish the run more.
Speaker 1: They're just terrible at this is taking that effort to
Speaker 1: the next left right. I mean, they're they're running on
Speaker 1: first and second down so much that it puts Marioda
Speaker 1: in a tough spot. His receivers have not helped him
Speaker 1: out in general. It's not a good receiver crew. There's
Speaker 1: been a lot of drops, it's it's a lot of everything.
Speaker 1: And he is he should be one of the best
Speaker 1: runners in the league, but he's just so indecisive that
Speaker 1: he just kind of stands there. It's not taking advantage
Speaker 1: of his mobility. I feel like the two teams in
Speaker 1: the South, the Titans and Jaguars that made the playoffs
Speaker 1: last year, are heading in the wrong direction. Well, the
Speaker 1: Texans and Cults are heading up and and the Titans,
Speaker 1: to me, just how can you look at like you mentioned,
Speaker 1: getting whipped by the Bills, the way they've lost some
Speaker 1: of these games. It's embarrassed. Here's the thing, though, that
Speaker 1: you know this is not gambling advice, No, no, but
Speaker 1: give that Let's calm down on making the Cowboys prohibited
Speaker 1: favorites against any team in the league. Just about right now,
Speaker 1: give me a break. All right, there you go. That's
Speaker 1: Week nine. We'll recap all the games that we just
Speaker 1: previewed on Sunday night as we always do our flagship
Speaker 1: podcast and that raps Yes, that was five straight days
Speaker 1: of programming from around the NFL. We've never done that before.
Speaker 1: Come back tomorrow. Well six is five is fine, Let's
Speaker 1: get our cal ripken on. Let's just keep this thing going.
Speaker 1: Five is absolutely fine. Uh and yeah, Mark, I'm going
Speaker 1: to be at that Bohemian raapsody if the more I
Speaker 1: think about it. At the popcorn stas and the more
Speaker 1: I think about it, Halloween was absolutely in a plus
Speaker 1: and I would love to see you at the movie
Speaker 1: theater potentially. Yeah, I mean I'll be there if you
Speaker 1: want to come hang out with me. I mean we'll
Speaker 1: be there, so you will be joining us. That's how
Speaker 1: I see it. If you just want just me and you,
Speaker 1: that would be fun too. I mean, do you guys
Speaker 1: even know if you go to the same movie Dude,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure we do. Okay, go to the Arc Light,
Speaker 1: go to the Arc because it's yeah, then you go
Speaker 1: you hit Rockos after there's a whole nice thing around it. Actually,
Speaker 1: maybe I'll have to cancel my other plans and just
Speaker 1: go with you. Not not not a good way to
Speaker 1: book end the show for me after the way I
Speaker 1: opened it. Um, Okay, this is Dan hands is signing
Speaker 1: off for my silver screen buddy maybe Quiet Storm, the Mailman,
Speaker 1: the Old Boss, and the Hungover One Ricky Hollywood say
Speaker 1: we took it easy on you today, Phil Sunday Night,