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Speaker 1: is percent vegetarian, but one hundred percent me. Welcome back
Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My
Speaker 1: name is Dan hans As I am joined in room
Speaker 1: filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg Rosenthal.
Speaker 1: What is up boys? Hey? He and if you're not aware,
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler is the resident vegetarian. That was an odd
Speaker 1: way to get into this show. It was unusual. We
Speaker 1: have no control over the creative content. The first thing
Speaker 1: our listener, here's something we have no control over, and
Speaker 1: you have to wonder, I mean, this is our program, Greg,
Speaker 1: maybe we need to take a little bit. We could
Speaker 1: take control. So that's so I look at that as
Speaker 1: it is under our control. We've chosen to seed the floor.
Speaker 1: Do you you're making it sound like it was a
Speaker 1: decision we made rather than we just said, oh, that's
Speaker 1: one lesson thing that we have to work. Well, it's
Speaker 1: much other. Let's get together for yet another brain storming
Speaker 1: session having to come up with four thousand. I'll let
Speaker 1: someone else do it. I don't care what they have
Speaker 1: to say about us. Um, thank god, by the way.
Speaker 1: So it's just like endless brainstorming. It's just like we
Speaker 1: don't need to come up with those things too. They're
Speaker 1: doing a fine job with them. Um they are, and
Speaker 1: thank you to money. Uh big late slate of games
Speaker 1: here on the Sunday of week nine. Um, because I'm
Speaker 1: a professional and because I'm a Jets fan, I spent
Speaker 1: three and a half three and a half hours watching
Speaker 1: Jets Dolphins in the early slate today, and I can
Speaker 1: honestly tell you it had it made me less of
Speaker 1: a professional football fan. That like, if you plug me
Speaker 1: into Bridget and you got the data or data asked
Speaker 1: Gruden for the correct pronunciation, it would say Dan likes
Speaker 1: less forever or is it was permanently altered. And then
Speaker 1: the late games came over and they were all great,
Speaker 1: and it got me back up eliminated that four team
Speaker 1: cent drop. It's like in in Vegas if you you
Speaker 1: hit the blackjack table, you're down early, and then you
Speaker 1: clean up at two am and you get back to even.
Speaker 1: But it feels like a win well and as a
Speaker 1: gift to you and our fans, that can be the
Speaker 1: last that we ever speak of that Jets Dolphins game.
Speaker 1: Just there. Gleaned on game pass from this game, there's
Speaker 1: a gleam gentleman. No, no, not really, but I know
Speaker 1: you're you're a tape grinder, a tape monkey. What do
Speaker 1: they say? That tape monster? What is it? The thing
Speaker 1: they're getting These nicknames are getting worse by the tape monkeys.
Speaker 1: Just fun. You're a tape monkey. You'll be watching it,
Speaker 1: and uh, you won't be enjoying what you're watching. But
Speaker 1: here's the good thing. We got better games to talk about,
Speaker 1: including the late game of the Year, America's Game, which
Speaker 1: lived up to the promise let's start right there. Breeze
Speaker 1: drops back, throws down the slide, Mike Thommas trid prease
Speaker 1: to the thirty, prease to the twenty to the ten touchdown,
Speaker 1: Mike Commas seventy two yards and the Saints straight ahole
Speaker 1: in the hearts of the Rams and the fourth he
Speaker 1: he pulls out the problem. He goes to get the
Speaker 1: poems and he goes get them up. You got the
Speaker 1: cell phone, Zach Stree, deuce mcallis there? Who? I believe
Speaker 1: it was on that Saints team with Joe Horne w
Speaker 1: w L with the call called. Drew Brees threw it
Speaker 1: over Marcus Peters's head. Michael Thomas made the catch and
Speaker 1: took it from there. It was the seventh and final
Speaker 1: touchdown of the day or the sixth of the final
Speaker 1: final touchdown of the day for the Saints, who knocked
Speaker 1: off the Rams forty five thirty five at the Superdome.
Speaker 1: It's the first loss of season for the Rams, who
Speaker 1: began the season eight no. The Saints, meanwhile, have put
Speaker 1: themselves in the driver's seat for home field advantage of
Speaker 1: the NFC playoffs. Chris Westling. That is a monster. That
Speaker 1: is a tape monster, a tape monkey of a win
Speaker 1: for Sean Payton Company. Uh, Michael Thomas versus Marcus Peters
Speaker 1: is not a fair fight. When Peters got that calf
Speaker 1: injury in late September, they originally said he would be
Speaker 1: out for a month. He ended up not missing any time,
Speaker 1: but he has been toasted week in and week out,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if it's the calf he says,
Speaker 1: he's Michael Thomas abused him. There were a couple of
Speaker 1: penalties in this game by Peters as well. And the
Speaker 1: Saints just have that trio of superstars with Camara Camara,
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas and Breeze, and Breeze is making so many
Speaker 1: improbable plays where you count him out, you think he's
Speaker 1: gonna be sacked, and he comes through with a huge play.
Speaker 1: I mean, Michael Thomas is right there among the best
Speaker 1: receivers in the league. The fact that he's caught seventy
Speaker 1: one of seventy nine passes thrown his way this year
Speaker 1: and then and it really struck me when I watched
Speaker 1: them last week in last week's game. These are not
Speaker 1: easy completions. Like he's catching balls down the field, He's
Speaker 1: catching balls in traffic. He is maybe the best right
Speaker 1: now at getting contested catches him. Yeah, he and DeAndre
Speaker 1: Hopkins I think are fighting for the title of next
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald. This was a game where the Saints jump
Speaker 1: out big early and you could feel it becoming a
Speaker 1: Rams game like all the others at one point where
Speaker 1: the Rams were utterly unstoppable in the third quarter, held
Speaker 1: the Saints too, I think fifty yards for much of
Speaker 1: the second half, and then New New Orleans got aggressive
Speaker 1: again the way they were early, and I love the
Speaker 1: way they won this. They have a pretty rough schedule
Speaker 1: down the stretch, so we're gonna find out if they
Speaker 1: have any shot to hang with the Rams as a
Speaker 1: final record. But this redirected the NFC because there's no
Speaker 1: way that I buy the Saints winning an NFC title
Speaker 1: game on the road. It has to be in their house.
Speaker 1: That's the way they've always been. But you're getting the
Speaker 1: best version of Drew Brees I think that we've ever
Speaker 1: seen right now. This game started with four possessions and
Speaker 1: four touchdowns, so you knew right away and you kind
Speaker 1: of felt this is what the game was gonna be.
Speaker 1: But then when it played out to that script, you
Speaker 1: knew it was going to be exciting. And then the
Speaker 1: big turning point in the first half was after a
Speaker 1: mark Ingram fumble. Uh the UH Rams attempt to fake
Speaker 1: field goal and don't get it, and maybe they did.
Speaker 1: Johnny Hecker seemed to be right there with the reach,
Speaker 1: but they didn't. They ruled him short. They sean McVey
Speaker 1: challenge that did not get the overturn, and then that
Speaker 1: led to a one points straight points for the Saints.
Speaker 1: They seem like they're in total control, and then the
Speaker 1: Rams they get a late field goal and they score,
Speaker 1: they score, they score, and all of a sudden, it's
Speaker 1: thirty five thirty five. But then give credit greg to
Speaker 1: the Saints who then with the game slipping away, we're
Speaker 1: able to get those last ten points, including the Thomas TV.
Speaker 1: And part of that is because Alvin Kamara is to me,
Speaker 1: the best short yardage back in football, and and he
Speaker 1: might be the back if I could just choose one,
Speaker 1: I think I would go with Kamara, and it's because
Speaker 1: he is so amazing in those condensed red zone situations
Speaker 1: where you normally think, okay, you want a pounder to
Speaker 1: run it up the middle. He can do that, but
Speaker 1: you can run him on the outside like you did
Speaker 1: to win the game on the final fourth down play
Speaker 1: where they gave it to him. You can obviously use
Speaker 1: them in the passing game, and they just exposed the
Speaker 1: Rams linebackers. I mean, no lot nobody can come and
Speaker 1: cover Kamara in the passing game, but that they definitely couldn't.
Speaker 1: There were a couple of great plays by Damerio Davis,
Speaker 1: who was cast off by the Browns, traded to the Jets,
Speaker 1: left the Jets. He really made a difference in the run,
Speaker 1: stopping it even though Girley got his yards. But alongside
Speaker 1: Drew Brees, Jared Goff through some incredible throws in this game.
Speaker 1: I mean, the two This was fun to watch because
Speaker 1: you're getting the height of quarterback play for a full game,
Speaker 1: full sixty minutes. Golf throws a few jaw dropping passes
Speaker 1: every week and in the height of the play colleague,
Speaker 1: I mean, these these are the two, the two best
Speaker 1: along with the Chiefs. Right now. It's just like you
Speaker 1: can't enjoy this, you know, go eat it. And it
Speaker 1: does show those eat it. Yeah, I mean, you know
Speaker 1: we want the little defensive football whatever enough, but it
Speaker 1: does show the limitations. Like think of all the money
Speaker 1: that the Rams have spent on their on their defense,
Speaker 1: and it's like they were they were home, they were
Speaker 1: just it was a prayer to try to stop New Orleans.
Speaker 1: They need to keep to leave healthy and they need
Speaker 1: Peters to play better. We we talked about it too
Speaker 1: when we were on the Thursday pod the or the
Speaker 1: Wednesday Show. Uh, the Rams defense hadn't really taken a
Speaker 1: leap from where it was last year, and they invested
Speaker 1: a lot of money and it happened. It was a
Speaker 1: tough spot tonight, but they certainly did not get it
Speaker 1: done today. So if you want to get a little nervous,
Speaker 1: if you're a Rams fan, can my defense in a
Speaker 1: big spot step up? Because they didn't here and I
Speaker 1: thought I heard something there. Oh yeah, now it was
Speaker 1: at the appropriate sound and volume level. This time it
Speaker 1: was a lock and it was mine. Did you hear that, Erica?
Speaker 1: I heard him a lout and clear. What do you
Speaker 1: think he was insinuating? There? Um, probably an error on
Speaker 1: your end for not noticing it. Yeah, was completely ignored
Speaker 1: entirely by everyone. The first time he was it sounded
Speaker 1: like he was saying, you didn't time it correctly and
Speaker 1: you didn't play at It was drowned out by a
Speaker 1: bunch of people talking exactly the timing and volume was
Speaker 1: nice job, though, Um I was. I was nervous, though,
Speaker 1: I honestly on top of like your own favorite team
Speaker 1: getting squashed for the eightieth week in a row to lose.
Speaker 1: This lock was like, why did I lock up against
Speaker 1: the Rams? I am a raging idiot. I feel lucky
Speaker 1: to get out of it. We're lucky. Put it that way. Also,
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, that's a franchise record two and eleven yards
Speaker 1: in one game. Let's move on Stafford out of the shotgun.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're really claustrophobic. He gets away from the run. Yes,
Speaker 1: it is a fumble and it's hiped up by the
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings and rolling into the end zone. Oh. Paul Allen,
Speaker 1: Vikings Radio Network with a call Daniel Hunter, I love
Speaker 1: this one. Just let that horn. It's like a Viking's
Speaker 1: the best one. Three and a half sacks one of
Speaker 1: ten sacks for the Vikings, a franchise record, and he
Speaker 1: had that fourth quarter bumble return for a score. Dominant
Speaker 1: defensive performance with the Vikings they beat the Lions twenty
Speaker 1: four to nine. Greg The Vikings also got a solid
Speaker 1: contribution from Dalvin Cook in what amounted to a get
Speaker 1: right game following last week's loss. It was I'm surprised
Speaker 1: almost to see this second in the in the rundown,
Speaker 1: just because it was a nothing burger of a game
Speaker 1: that you can just define by No, I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: but the Lions, the Lions eat. The Lions didn't show up.
Speaker 1: Whatever it is you eat it. Yeah, I didn't. I
Speaker 1: didn't do the rundown of games here alright. Forty six
Speaker 1: pass plays for the Lions in this game. They gained
Speaker 1: three point one yards per play on those. He was
Speaker 1: sacked ten times, seventeen quarterback hits that the front line
Speaker 1: of Hunter, and the key here to me is Everson
Speaker 1: Griffin just kind of coming back and completing that group
Speaker 1: and other guys had a big day. Tom Johnson had
Speaker 1: a big day. Hunter to me is right there as
Speaker 1: a potential All Pro and they just got it done.
Speaker 1: On a day where Kirk Cousins made two kind of
Speaker 1: sloppy turnovers, it didn't matter whatsoever. They had this game
Speaker 1: in hand. If you if you'd really like to know,
Speaker 1: if you want to go and works together NFC, what
Speaker 1: I like to do is packed the games together and
Speaker 1: this is all the top NFC contenders. I think I
Speaker 1: see a theme there, and it's a good show running
Speaker 1: by you. There is some talk that with the trade
Speaker 1: of Golden Tate that quick passing game that Jim Bob
Speaker 1: Cooters had the last few years with Matthew Stafford might
Speaker 1: be out the window in favor of more of a
Speaker 1: deep drop downfield passing game. Is that maybe a problem
Speaker 1: with these sacks. I mean, it's it certainly didn't look good.
Speaker 1: And they they loved pointing out on third and five,
Speaker 1: third and six that they couldn't find anyone open. They
Speaker 1: tried to use Theo Riddic kind of in that role
Speaker 1: in the slot, and he wasn't finding any It was
Speaker 1: holding the ball. They their offensive line was just dominated.
Speaker 1: Most of these sacks were not holding the ball variety.
Speaker 1: To me, they were just like Daniel Hunter especially, is
Speaker 1: a man amongst boys. The lines had a streak of
Speaker 1: twenty five consecutive games with at least fourteen points stopped here,
Speaker 1: and you just wonder, like all those other games, for
Speaker 1: the most part, Golden Tates in the mix, that was
Speaker 1: a major piece of that offense. To be taken out
Speaker 1: in the middle of a season at a trade deadline move,
Speaker 1: you wonder if that's gonna take some time for them
Speaker 1: to to fill that void. He was a sneaky, huge
Speaker 1: part of that offense. Yeah, he was on pace for
Speaker 1: a hundred catches and twelve hundred yards. That's not a
Speaker 1: small part. I think they're finding their level though. This
Speaker 1: is a team that I've struggled to kind of figure out.
Speaker 1: Not no unlocked this game up. Just a reminder that
Speaker 1: I locked up the Saints over the ram It well done, Mark.
Speaker 1: This is a team. It's there three and five. Don't
Speaker 1: they just seem like a six and ten team. I
Speaker 1: mean they don't. There's not much another Lion's team that
Speaker 1: just you forget about instantly the second week seven ends.
Speaker 1: There's too many of those. There's there's some can sir,
Speaker 1: And if you're a Vikings fan, I think Adam theland
Speaker 1: is certainly not healthy right now. He had twenty two yards,
Speaker 1: so there goes his hundred yards streak. He had seven
Speaker 1: targets in this game. The offense in general is a
Speaker 1: little up and down. I mean they had a million
Speaker 1: chances in this game to put it away. I think
Speaker 1: that the Vikings ended up with two three yards. They
Speaker 1: held the Lions at two o nine. So neither offense
Speaker 1: was I mean, no stuff on digs, a limited Adam feel. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but cook that's a big part of that offense to
Speaker 1: he had eighty nine yards on ten carries. He's most
Speaker 1: five of the less six games without hamstring injury. You
Speaker 1: remember how good he was before he tours a c
Speaker 1: L last early last year, Hug, that would be a
Speaker 1: huge pickup for them. They have the bye week to
Speaker 1: get healthy yet wide receiver, and and I do like
Speaker 1: the emergence of Chad BB. Don Beebe's son Don Bee
Speaker 1: was in the crowd wearing Lions gear, watching his guy
Speaker 1: pick up a few third third down conversion. Some Rhoda
Speaker 1: World this week called Dalvin Cook the NFL shrug emoji. Huh.
Speaker 1: Before this game, it was dismissive essentially, but he was
Speaker 1: He was dismissive as an entity. It's kind of like
Speaker 1: you don't know what you're gonna get. And even in
Speaker 1: this game, he he popped off a seventy yard run
Speaker 1: which showed it was actually the fastest anyone has run
Speaker 1: this year according to next But the other nine carries,
Speaker 1: I think he had a total of nineteen yards. All right,
Speaker 1: But you know, don't shrug emoji that seventy yard Greg, Well,
Speaker 1: this was pre I think it's more like we don't
Speaker 1: know what to make of this guy's fantasy situation rather
Speaker 1: than think if you picked him up as a fantasy guy,
Speaker 1: you'd be slightly annoyed. Got that, we got that straight out.
Speaker 1: Let's move on. I take it back. Good that theeld
Speaker 1: self Newton throws in zones. Samuel tomp Top makes the
Speaker 1: catch touch. I called him the Mick Nick Mix and
Speaker 1: Panthers Radio network. Cam Newton completed a nineteen passes to
Speaker 1: forty seven and two touches, including that game icing strike
Speaker 1: to Curtis Samuel, Who's on the rise. Win for the
Speaker 1: Panthers over the Buccaneers in Charlotte. That's ten straight home
Speaker 1: wins for the Panthers. Look out for that top season
Speaker 1: in the NFA two at NFC two. And you do
Speaker 1: not want to go to Charlotte for a lot of
Speaker 1: isn't You don't want to go West? The Bucks nearly
Speaker 1: dug themselves out of another big hole with fits Magic
Speaker 1: warming up, but in the end Camp wasn't having any
Speaker 1: of it. Panthers scored a franchise record thirty five points
Speaker 1: in the first half, thanks in part to the Bucks offense,
Speaker 1: which scored one touchdown but had only one total first
Speaker 1: first down on the other five drives combined on the
Speaker 1: first six drives and then Fitzpatrick started heating up. But
Speaker 1: James brad Berry, in particular, cornerback from the Panthers, owned
Speaker 1: Mike Evans in this game, played him very tight and
Speaker 1: passes to Mike Evans were not helping the Bucks in
Speaker 1: this one catch on ten targets. Yes, brad Berry played
Speaker 1: him really tight. Wow, this was the game on Twitter
Speaker 1: where suddenly Norv Turner's name is bubbling up in a
Speaker 1: way that doesn't happen to Norv Turner very often, uh
Speaker 1: in this century as a Coach of the Year Assistant
Speaker 1: Coach of the Year candidate. And the reason this is
Speaker 1: all happening for Cam Newton and the Panthers, well, they've
Speaker 1: got so many explosive weapons now that you know, we
Speaker 1: pointed out they used to draft power forwards and now
Speaker 1: they have these running after catch monsters in d J.
Speaker 1: Moore and Curtis Samuel had a great double reverse touchsown
Speaker 1: tape monster. Yeah, Jack monsters. That was one of those
Speaker 1: next gen runs where Curtis Samuel it was a thirty
Speaker 1: three yard touchdown. He ran for like a hundred and
Speaker 1: three And some of these drives Cam Newton doesn't have
Speaker 1: to do that much. I mean, there's there's these reverses,
Speaker 1: there's these short throws. And as someone who has been
Speaker 1: you know, kind of rooting enjoying watching Camp play, this
Speaker 1: is a welcome change. And we in this room we
Speaker 1: were saying we were just excited to get Shula out
Speaker 1: the door and get a nice, professional looking offense. Especially
Speaker 1: I was I and I think Turner is a good
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. He's been he's been solid wherever he's been.
Speaker 1: I think McCaffrey might be quietly on pace for two
Speaker 1: thousand yards from scrimmage. The Bucks, by the way, like
Speaker 1: they this is Fitzpatrick. This is what you're gonna get.
Speaker 1: I mean, as as fun as has been is he
Speaker 1: put them in a hole against Pittsburgh. He doesn't here.
Speaker 1: It's not his fault. He's playing at its fine level.
Speaker 1: They have weapons, but when you have the worst defense
Speaker 1: in the league and no running game, it's like you
Speaker 1: have a small margin for air and you can't expect
Speaker 1: They're still averaging their defense allowing forty points a game
Speaker 1: on the road. That is unbelievable. People. It's like they
Speaker 1: got Mike Smith fired and now they get killed playing
Speaker 1: man defense man to man instead of his own I
Speaker 1: love this Panthers team. I think they're as good as
Speaker 1: anybody in the NFC, including the two teams you talked
Speaker 1: about at the top of the show. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: they could be. I think any of those teams, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if they came out of the NFC.
Speaker 1: And I think it's because Christian McCaffrey has taken the
Speaker 1: next step. It's because Cam Newton, by the ways his
Speaker 1: passes completed. This guy is a different passer. With norv
Speaker 1: uh and the other guy, Greg Olsen. You didn't think
Speaker 1: you didn't know what you're gonna get at him. He's
Speaker 1: come back and he looks like Greg Olson. He had
Speaker 1: a brilliant one handed touchdown catching this game. And they're
Speaker 1: one of the best home teams in football. They play
Speaker 1: the Saints twice down the stretch. The Saints owned them
Speaker 1: last year, beat them three. I did a nice job,
Speaker 1: but that scheduling. It's twice over the last three games
Speaker 1: that has I was talking to Dave Eally downstairs. You
Speaker 1: don't like that. It's a hard luck guy together. I
Speaker 1: know you don't like that, but I like it. In
Speaker 1: this division, what's going on. It's a hard luck guy,
Speaker 1: you know, Dave. Sometimes it's been of a Charlie Brown
Speaker 1: element to him with some of the things that happens
Speaker 1: in his personal life. But he he is looking really
Speaker 1: in a good position with his his favorite team, the Panthers,
Speaker 1: and that issue just gonna pull the ball away. And
Speaker 1: he's been here before. I wouldn't get passive aggressive shots fired.
Speaker 1: We love I love Dave, even if you stole some
Speaker 1: of my tweets today some plagiarism issues, But look at
Speaker 1: look at the schedule week fifteen, weeks seventeen. Uh, look
Speaker 1: at where these teams are packed up right now in
Speaker 1: the NFC. That could be an all timer for Sunday
Speaker 1: Night football. Uh, last game of the regular season. Whoa
Speaker 1: and maybe Dave will kick the ball at last. Maybe
Speaker 1: don't bank on it. Let's move on slot to the right,
Speaker 1: throws the screen and ducking the man and getting to
Speaker 1: the goal and touchdown. In Tonio Brown, he drifts gard
Speaker 1: run of that checker for the little shaking big had.
Speaker 1: Finally it was hit him into the end zone. Oh,
Speaker 1: he put a move on Tavon Young. Tavon Young got
Speaker 1: up and said, can you I lost a piece of
Speaker 1: my uniform. Can you please find it for me? Mr Official?
Speaker 1: All right, Bill hill Grove. I think that could have
Speaker 1: been either touch ilkin where Craig Wolfley have the Steelers
Speaker 1: radio network. Ben Roethlisberger through two touchdown passes. He also
Speaker 1: ran for a score uh and James Conner continued to
Speaker 1: do his thing. The Pittsburgh defense continued to look revitalized.
Speaker 1: Sixteen win over the fading Ravens in Baltimore ouch. The
Speaker 1: Steelers have on fourth straight since the Ravens beat them
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh back in week four. Greg the Steelers delivered
Speaker 1: a damaging blow to their longtime rival. Today they did it.
Speaker 1: It was such a reverse of the first game that
Speaker 1: they have This time, Pittsburgh has the time of possession advantage.
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh looks like the tougher team, and once again a
Speaker 1: team that's ranked number one in defense provided very little
Speaker 1: resistance against Pittsburgh. The reason Roethlisberger and the and the
Speaker 1: Steelers were ten ten of sixteen on third down and
Speaker 1: it just felt like the entire game was third and
Speaker 1: six throw over the middle, third and seven completion over
Speaker 1: the middle. It's because Roethlisberger wasn't bothered. He he any
Speaker 1: time he got touched was of his own doing, because
Speaker 1: he was just extending the play. We'll get to that
Speaker 1: one pay a little right, but for the most even
Speaker 1: that was of his own like and any time he
Speaker 1: got hit it's because the play took forever for someone
Speaker 1: to get open. The Ravens were dominated up front, and
Speaker 1: these are plays that Joe Flacco is not making. It
Speaker 1: is not made in a couple of weeks, and the
Speaker 1: Ravens to me feel like a team that needs to
Speaker 1: essentially almost reorganize at this point. I have a conspiracy
Speaker 1: theory watching this game. In the first quarter, you there
Speaker 1: is a lot of talk about Lamar Jackson and Joe
Speaker 1: Flacco and how Joe is feeling about this situation and
Speaker 1: how comfortably is and if if initially was seen as
Speaker 1: that's motivating him, but now as a season wears on
Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson is getting more touches in third down
Speaker 1: situations and in late game situations, what's the deal? First
Speaker 1: and goal, Lamar Jackson is involved in a running play
Speaker 1: third and goal, So that's second togoal Third and goal.
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson goes in motion wide open in the flat
Speaker 1: all by himself. Book, it's six points and and and
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco never looks at Lamar Jackson throws into double
Speaker 1: coverage and sails it out of the back of the
Speaker 1: end zone. Now, I'm not saying nothing less. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying I don't think he likes Lamar Jackson on the field,
Speaker 1: and he is not. He's going out of his way
Speaker 1: to make sure the man is not involved with this offense.
Speaker 1: I am not subscribing to that or any other conspiracy theory,
Speaker 1: but um, but I am going to eat Crow for
Speaker 1: continuing to say this Ravens team is good and they're
Speaker 1: now four and five. Rappaport is reporting that John Harbor
Speaker 1: is in trouble. The Ravens are heading into their bye week,
Speaker 1: and it sounds like their owner is gonna look over
Speaker 1: this situation. Wow, it would seem crazy to do it
Speaker 1: during the season, and I don't think they're that far away.
Speaker 1: They were certainly the inferior team, But it was really
Speaker 1: just like red zone when when the Steelers are in
Speaker 1: the red zone, they have James Conner, first of all,
Speaker 1: who is breaking tackles when over a hundred sixty yards
Speaker 1: from scrimmage is they set up a nice touchdown for
Speaker 1: him as a receiver. Whereas the Ravens, Flacco just missed
Speaker 1: a few throws, including that one, but another one to Crabtree.
Speaker 1: They're using Lamar Jackson a ton and then there's no
Speaker 1: there's no rhythm there. And then you look at what
Speaker 1: they did to their receivers. They threw ten passes or
Speaker 1: rather thirteen passes the crab Tree and John Brown for
Speaker 1: less than fifty yards. It's just not an explosive offense.
Speaker 1: Flacco is fine, but these this is the worst two
Speaker 1: game stretch of his career. They're the team that's built
Speaker 1: like a team that the NFL has moved on, and
Speaker 1: the Ravens are you know, it takes a while to
Speaker 1: build that kind of an offense. But you've been beaten
Speaker 1: by the Saints and by the Panthers in the last
Speaker 1: three weeks. You just got taken out by Pittsburgh. It's
Speaker 1: hard to take you seriously. They're done in the a
Speaker 1: f C North. There now three they're one in three
Speaker 1: in the division, their three losses behind. The Steelers don't
Speaker 1: even have to play another game in the division till
Speaker 1: Week seventeen. And I do think West's boy Mike Hilton.
Speaker 1: I don't know. He might be like the key to
Speaker 1: the whole thing, him and Joe Hayden getting getting healthy.
Speaker 1: When Mike Hilton came back, this defense just looked a
Speaker 1: lot better and he made a number of plays today.
Speaker 1: I think the Ravens have to go six and one
Speaker 1: down the stretch. That would put him at ten and six.
Speaker 1: They're not going to do that. Stealers to me are
Speaker 1: right there with the Chiefs and the Patriots. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: feel like you're taking it easy on Joe Flacco right now.
Speaker 1: I think he's just like, what do you expect up?
Speaker 1: And I would say on balanced. This season has been
Speaker 1: a a a Joe Flacco season, a better than the
Speaker 1: last two seasons, right in line with most of his career.
Speaker 1: But that's why they drafted a quarterback round because it's
Speaker 1: not good enough. It's not And maybe he was until
Speaker 1: the last two weeks and he hasn't had a two
Speaker 1: week stretch, but again this yeah, he's just bah, he's
Speaker 1: yeah uh and oh the Roethlisberger hit he took was brutal.
Speaker 1: H Greg You're not always great with your injury predictions,
Speaker 1: but it happens to like to make bold injury predictions
Speaker 1: that the usually season ending injury predictions downstairs in the
Speaker 1: news on a typically we lack the context because Gregg's
Speaker 1: watching the game. Maybe we're not watching it, so just
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, bummer, Like I remember Evan Ingram towards
Speaker 1: a c L earlier this season, there have been several things.
Speaker 1: This time we were told, oh, Ben big Ben probably
Speaker 1: broke is clap, not even probably, I didn't say. I
Speaker 1: didn't say probably. It was a vicious Hiatt looks made
Speaker 1: a major play like eighty seconds later. Yeah, that kills
Speaker 1: any other quarterback. Roethlisberger is a freaking tank. Looks like
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Josh Dobbs the rest of the season.
Speaker 1: I think the key with like talking about devastating season
Speaker 1: injuries injuries is to get ahead of the story. Make
Speaker 1: sure your first to let the news room know and
Speaker 1: shout out to Josh Dobbs, who got them out of
Speaker 1: deep in their own territory. Are with like a twenty
Speaker 1: five yard throw, there's a huge play, and that was
Speaker 1: a big play in the game. So DBSy, nice job,
Speaker 1: you know who wouldn't have done that? And all the
Speaker 1: other guy what was his named Landry and Andrew June
Speaker 1: forgot about that guy? Righty? Do you ever make a
Speaker 1: play in four years? There? Stobbsy is the future? Well,
Speaker 1: all right, let's move on. Fifty one yard attempt for
Speaker 1: the win. The snappers down the right? Why right? Why
Speaker 1: it's no good? That's why? Right? The Texas win it.
Speaker 1: Nineteen seventeen, Houston prevails. The Texans have one there, six
Speaker 1: straight game. Yeah, they did, Mark Vandermere, Andre Ware, John
Speaker 1: Harris and that in that booth, celebrating to Texas Radio
Speaker 1: Network Brandon mcmadis's fifty one yard field goal attempt when
Speaker 1: wide rights time expired, allowing Houston escaped Denver with a
Speaker 1: nineteen seventeen win over the Broncos Broncos. Yes, that's six
Speaker 1: straight wins for the Texans. Uh. And for the Broncos
Speaker 1: as a crusher. I mean, the team that was once
Speaker 1: too and oh is now three and six. Their playoff
Speaker 1: hopes severely damaged by this one. Uh. You know, if
Speaker 1: they go six and one, that might not even be enough.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, I mean you and he fallen to three
Speaker 1: and six. Uh, that's too many losses this early, So
Speaker 1: they're in deep trouble. Um, I do wanna just to
Speaker 1: get Greg you fired up a little bit. Um talk
Speaker 1: about the McManus attempt at the end, because case Keenum,
Speaker 1: you know, cases case, and he was up and down
Speaker 1: in this game, but he completed on a fourth down, uh,
Speaker 1: near midfield I'd say about around Denver's forty yard yard
Speaker 1: line and fourth down, with the pass rush closing in
Speaker 1: in about a minute to play, he hangs tough in
Speaker 1: the pocket. He delivers a strike over the middle, first
Speaker 1: down on the other forty and Uh, Denver now is
Speaker 1: set up to win this game down too, And what
Speaker 1: happens Vance Joseph, who was running out of time and
Speaker 1: maybe when you hear this, he'll be out of time.
Speaker 1: We don't know. It's it's getting to that point, settles
Speaker 1: and gets very conservative. Uh, in a very windy day,
Speaker 1: even though the wind had died down for this kick.
Speaker 1: He he settles on essentially a fifty yard field goal
Speaker 1: for the win, and McManus pushed it and that's it.
Speaker 1: And then Bill O'Brien on the other side, And this
Speaker 1: is one of the great subplots of Week nine. And then,
Speaker 1: let's be honest, maybe the season, maybe the history of football. Uh,
Speaker 1: they catch O'Brien on the sideline. We think, we think allegedly,
Speaker 1: but if you could read lips you can get the gist.
Speaker 1: What is he's saying as he goes to meet Joseph
Speaker 1: at midfield for the hands, Well, no, he's well, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not like he's right near Joseph. Yeah, it appears.
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien says, good job bands, you dumb censored. Oh
Speaker 1: that's brutal. But the reason he's saying is it did
Speaker 1: not take a gifted tactician to know you don't settle
Speaker 1: for a fifty yard field goal. And that's what the
Speaker 1: Broncos did and it might have cost them their season.
Speaker 1: Coaches have been doined this I probably since you know,
Speaker 1: the last fifty years or so, are we gonna start
Speaker 1: seen like more aggressive situational football in fielcal situations. It's
Speaker 1: it's insane. It's like it's like human there's been so
Speaker 1: much progress in human evolution and and football tactics. It's like,
Speaker 1: and you we still can't overcome this that men that
Speaker 1: are getting paid, you know, millions of dollars a year
Speaker 1: haven't figured this one out. An The reason not to
Speaker 1: hire another defensive minded coach is your your lead guy
Speaker 1: I mean, they hinder their bye week Denver and because
Speaker 1: he deserves don't even know, Bill Musgrave isn't exactly like
Speaker 1: the freshest I'm not, I don't. I'm sure he's a
Speaker 1: very good coach, but he's been around for a while.
Speaker 1: He may subscribe to these old old way thinking that
Speaker 1: the buck stops with the head coach, so that maybe
Speaker 1: they're a fright kom like doing something loose. But I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't care. Mcmanuson missed a kick earlier. He missed
Speaker 1: a kick I believe last week. It's like he's one
Speaker 1: of the more reliable kickers though too. That's why make
Speaker 1: it harder though. It's this philosophy that it's like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: it's the kicker's fault, not my fault. And the tech
Speaker 1: by the way, oh yeah, Zuster is hot. That's five
Speaker 1: straight Packers better win this game. And I got lucky,
Speaker 1: just like the Texans got lucky here because Denver, like
Speaker 1: I said, was well set up to steal this game
Speaker 1: and they couldn't get it done. And you look at
Speaker 1: the Texans are the luckiest team in the league right
Speaker 1: now if you look at if you look at the
Speaker 1: Colts game, the Cowboys game, even the Bills game, and
Speaker 1: in this game, just the fact to win all four
Speaker 1: that I don't disagree with you. But what I'll say
Speaker 1: is this, I think this is a team that's getting
Speaker 1: better as the season goes along, and having those lucky wins.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna give them back. They're not gonna say
Speaker 1: sorry for it. Um. I think there's I think this
Speaker 1: team is gonna start peaking the one. I was a
Speaker 1: little disappointed that they didn't close this game out like
Speaker 1: I thought they would because they weren't able to get
Speaker 1: to Keenum and then kind of needed Joseph and McManus
Speaker 1: to bail them out. But a win is a win, uh,
Speaker 1: And when you could basically eliminate a team from the
Speaker 1: playoff picture while you're at it, to your dan if
Speaker 1: you're if you're in the side that you think they're
Speaker 1: gonna search, they have the Titans, Browns and Jets over
Speaker 1: the next when they come out there, by a general
Speaker 1: are great. And DeAndre Hopkins just putting this team on
Speaker 1: his back. Ten catches a hundred and five yards on
Speaker 1: twelve attempt when you really don't have any receiving options,
Speaker 1: and he's the one and he does it week after week.
Speaker 1: Damarius Thomas, in his debut three for sixty had a
Speaker 1: thirty yard or early in the game. So he wasn't
Speaker 1: a huge part of the game, but he was a contributor,
Speaker 1: and you imagine they're going to give him more reps
Speaker 1: a is as things go on. Broncos also lost their
Speaker 1: best offensive lineman, Matt Paradise to a six to eight
Speaker 1: week injury and broken legs. I don't think he's missed
Speaker 1: the game his career, Paradise lost. I think you mean,
Speaker 1: let's move on halfback right, Mahomes will throw retreating steps up,
Speaker 1: fires up for the ends on Kelty. Great catch touchdown
Speaker 1: can City second of the day for Cleveland High Tight
Speaker 1: School and Travis Kelsey. Mitch Holt is, of course, Chiefs
Speaker 1: Radio Network m VP front runner. Patrick Mahomes passed for
Speaker 1: the seventy three touchdowns, two to Travis Kelsey from wherever
Speaker 1: he's from, as the Chiefs rolled to a thirty one
Speaker 1: win over to the Browns. Uh. This is the first
Speaker 1: game for Cleveland without Hugh Jackson's or Greg Williams as
Speaker 1: in GIMS owned one. Mahomes is twenty nine t d
Speaker 1: passes and three thousand, one and eighty five yards uh,
Speaker 1: the most by any quarterback through ten games since nineteen fifty,
Speaker 1: and he's passed for at least three hundred yards in
Speaker 1: eighth straight games. Mark, we are all witnesses more of
Speaker 1: the same for Kansas City. I mean, this game felt
Speaker 1: very cooked for Cleveland when Greg Williams decided to deactivate
Speaker 1: to Marius Randall, who is dealing with some injury stuff.
Speaker 1: But then Denzel Ward went out with a hip injury.
Speaker 1: Then E J. Gaines was soon lost with a concussion.
Speaker 1: They had a bunch of brownies flying around the secondary
Speaker 1: in Kansas City. Just ate them up when you watch
Speaker 1: this game. What they did with open spaces in the
Speaker 1: flats and the way they used their screen game to
Speaker 1: absolutely devastate Cleveland's defense. It put them, like with so
Speaker 1: many other teams to play the Chiefs for right away
Speaker 1: on their heels trying to catch up. And Cleveland initially
Speaker 1: countered with this very bizarre strategy. Well, I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess if if if you could have done it all
Speaker 1: game long, would have worked. But this seven plus minute
Speaker 1: drive where all they did was run the ball, it
Speaker 1: was keep the keep the ball out of Kansas City's hands.
Speaker 1: But then you know, right right after that possession where
Speaker 1: Cleveland scored a touchdown, the Chiefs come back and scoring
Speaker 1: like three seconds or up. Do this against Kansas City, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can play all the ball control you want. The
Speaker 1: greatest ball control game of all time is Super Bowl
Speaker 1: five the Bills and Giants, But the Giants got stops
Speaker 1: on top of it, you know, having the ball for
Speaker 1: forty minutes in that game. What did you think of
Speaker 1: Freddie Kitchens in his play calling debut outside of the
Speaker 1: early attempt to just run the ball like you're playing
Speaker 1: you know, essentially Madden against someone and take out the
Speaker 1: entire first and second quarter more quick passes. I thought
Speaker 1: it was I thought it was probably Baker Mayfield's best
Speaker 1: game in a while. He threw a late bad pick
Speaker 1: in garbage time, but really it was this was not
Speaker 1: on Mayfield, was on the defense. I thought that they
Speaker 1: the off. It's looked as organized as it has in
Speaker 1: a while, and how could it look much worse than
Speaker 1: it's looked for large chunks of games. And the Browns defense,
Speaker 1: which had made a lot of plays in the first month,
Speaker 1: has really not done much the last three or four weeks.
Speaker 1: I mean it's not that you expect them to against
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. It strikes me and looking at the box scores,
Speaker 1: six different players had plays of over twenty yards for
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. I mean that's just like, what are you
Speaker 1: gonna do? They had at one point in the first
Speaker 1: half a fifty forty one and nineteen yard game. I mean,
Speaker 1: it looked worse than that. The half glass full, half
Speaker 1: glass empty. With the Browns half glass full. I would
Speaker 1: love to have my rookie quarterback. The production the bay
Speaker 1: field is competitive, and he he makes plays, he makes mistakes,
Speaker 1: but he looks like a guy that's you know, learning
Speaker 1: on the job and progressing. The half glass empty is
Speaker 1: Browns have two wins in the first nine games. And
Speaker 1: this was supposed to be a little different this year,
Speaker 1: and it's just kind of more of the same. It's
Speaker 1: more of the same, but it's it's also completely different
Speaker 1: because every other year this would systematically happen to Cleveland.
Speaker 1: It's Brandon Whedon or Austin Davis or Johnny Manzel just
Speaker 1: left the team and is facing you know, charges and
Speaker 1: arrests and drug issues. So it is different. Just the
Speaker 1: same with your Jets to have a quarterback. That they're
Speaker 1: basically like, we got rid of everyone because we're going
Speaker 1: to get the right people to put around our quarterback.
Speaker 1: That is different. It is weird though that week when
Speaker 1: I probably was the one who said this was like
Speaker 1: any one of these four teams could win the a
Speaker 1: f C North. You can make a case. It's like
Speaker 1: it's fast forward a month. That was a long time.
Speaker 1: This is the game from the six. Wilson shotguns snap
Speaker 1: passing down, pocket collapses, Wilson steps up, froze to the
Speaker 1: end zone and complete. Chargers win and the Bolts have
Speaker 1: won their fifth straight game and improved the six and two.
Speaker 1: Come on, get on the mic? Was he not? That
Speaker 1: was money right? That was all money out? Like there
Speaker 1: might have been an edit in there. Who knows he edited?
Speaker 1: Uh money dj kf I. With the call down eight
Speaker 1: with one untimed down left, Russell Wilson bought time founded
Speaker 1: open David Moore in the back of the end zone.
Speaker 1: More couldn't make the catch though maybe got tipped deflected,
Speaker 1: but it was enough to lead to the incompletion. The
Speaker 1: Chargers escaped with the win. Nineteen was at the Clint
Speaker 1: greg kicking issues again plagued the Chargers, but they managed
Speaker 1: to avoid the collapse just barely. Yeah, I don't want
Speaker 1: to talk about Calebster just missing extra points and field
Speaker 1: goals ten kicks in six games. Not only that, pulling
Speaker 1: off the rare daily double of missing an extra point
Speaker 1: that would have ended the game and then getting a
Speaker 1: penalty for tripping on the ensuing kickoff that was not
Speaker 1: a very good kickoff. Was he trying to break his
Speaker 1: own leg? I wanna focus more on the first fifty
Speaker 1: five minutes of the game, where two things stuck out.
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is a far inferior quarterback right now to
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, at least in terms of the two passes.
Speaker 1: Let's say the two passing games as a whole, and
Speaker 1: then one of the two teams is more aggressive because
Speaker 1: of that passing game. Rivers is so good at avoiding sacks,
Speaker 1: not taking negative plays. The three sacks that Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: took in this game, especially early, we're all on him. Uh.
Speaker 1: He put his team in tough situations. He threw that
Speaker 1: pick six, but before that even I really had him
Speaker 1: as having a very negative day, whereas Philip Rivers made
Speaker 1: some insane back shoulder throws. They really county on the
Speaker 1: big plays. It's a little like an uneven offense that
Speaker 1: just counts on the big plays. But they're hitting him
Speaker 1: every week. This is the best Philip Rivers that we've
Speaker 1: ever had. I think m I would not go that
Speaker 1: far to me. He well, we're far away from remember
Speaker 1: the year where it was like they were so worried
Speaker 1: about him that he got he was yeah, because he
Speaker 1: was such a disaster. This is what he looks like
Speaker 1: with with good pass protection. For the most part, his
Speaker 1: right tackle is getting him killed. But other than that,
Speaker 1: they have a have a good pass protection. And there
Speaker 1: was one kind of sequence early in the game that
Speaker 1: struck me. There was a Seahawks had third and eighteen.
Speaker 1: They run the ball and punt it because that's just
Speaker 1: like what the sahak. The Chargers had third and fifteen
Speaker 1: from their own eleven. Two plays later, they have a
Speaker 1: touchdown fifty four yards to Allen thirty four yards Melvin Gordon,
Speaker 1: who's running like crazy, and they just have enough playmaker.
Speaker 1: You mentioned closers on the Texans, like the Charges are
Speaker 1: kind of like that, at least on offense that anyone
Speaker 1: can pop off for forty yards they have the Raiders,
Speaker 1: Broncos and Cardinals after this. That's how you get to
Speaker 1: and they and then face the Steelers won five in
Speaker 1: a row. Here Keenan Allen, who's been quiet this year.
Speaker 1: He he had a nice game. Uh here um And
Speaker 1: Austin Ekeler, who we know is the PF Darling. He
Speaker 1: was nominated he didn't win last week. Who took home
Speaker 1: the PF Darling of the Year. Big victory everybody. I
Speaker 1: gave it to Trey Flowers, of course, but Keenan Allen,
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon, uh, Philip Rivers. That is a troika. It
Speaker 1: has to be on your radar day and his is
Speaker 1: like the guy who's got the kicking beat covered that
Speaker 1: the Chargers always picked the wrong kicker. They're cursed. Sturgist
Speaker 1: missed two games. In his replacement, Michael Badgeley made all
Speaker 1: ten of his kicks, so they send him to the
Speaker 1: practice squad. Put Caleb Sturgis on the field. He misses
Speaker 1: three kicks. He's been missing kicks all year. There's one solution.
Speaker 1: Cut Caleb Sturgis and sign a guy in the building.
Speaker 1: See how's lost Chris Carson in this game to an
Speaker 1: injury which could be a very big injury for them
Speaker 1: because Mike Davis not as good and they and they
Speaker 1: refused to play their first round pick hide penny. They
Speaker 1: probably should, I mean they did a few. Uh. Let's
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Speaker 1: the toss flips it on the screen. Here's Julio Tones
Speaker 1: down the far sideline and we'll score. Oh my heavens,
Speaker 1: there you going, Atlanta. Julio's in the end zone. Stop
Speaker 1: the clocks, the counts. It was a big deal, this
Speaker 1: Julio Jones scoreless streak. But now it's over. Westerham, Dave Archer,
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Speaker 1: the end zone. The all pro wide out ended his
Speaker 1: twelve game touchdown drought one of four touchdown throws from
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan and the Falcons win over the Redskins. That's
Speaker 1: three straight wins for Atlanta. Chris Wesley and the Skins
Speaker 1: weren't at the Falcons level, and this one, why not.
Speaker 1: This was the most impressive Falcons game of the year.
Speaker 1: And really they really shoved it in my face after
Speaker 1: I said that I almost locked the Redskins and I
Speaker 1: wasn't fearful of the Falcons because of their defense, and
Speaker 1: the Redskins want to control the trenches and they want
Speaker 1: to jump up ahead early and play ball control the
Speaker 1: Falcons one up front on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 1: In this game. I thought the Redskins would push them
Speaker 1: around and it went the other way. Uh. Part of
Speaker 1: that was because the Redskins played without left tackle Trent Williams,
Speaker 1: then lost too offensive lineman on the first two series,
Speaker 1: then lost Brandon Sheriff later in the game, so they
Speaker 1: didn't really have much of a chance there. Um Adrian
Speaker 1: Peterson was getting blown up in the backfield over and
Speaker 1: over again. And this was a complete win. I think
Speaker 1: we can bury any of the concerns about Steve Sarkisian.
Speaker 1: The Falcons are one of the best third and long
Speaker 1: offenses in the league. They kept converting over and over
Speaker 1: again on third and long in this game. They're one
Speaker 1: of the best red zone offenses in the league. I
Speaker 1: believe they've scored touchdowns on seventeen or last twenty trips
Speaker 1: to the red zone. This this team is kind of rolling.
Speaker 1: And you know, Greg's been saying, don't bury them, don't
Speaker 1: bury their playoff chances. They're still, you know, pushing a
Speaker 1: rock uphill with that schedule on the second half. But
Speaker 1: they're not over yet. I mean, there is a huge
Speaker 1: difference the eighteen games last year. The season opened against Philly,
Speaker 1: there was just major issues of that offense, and everything
Speaker 1: has melted away every week. The numbers, the yardage, the
Speaker 1: touchdown passes, it just pilot up. It's it's a top
Speaker 1: five or six offense. And that's why I've I've said
Speaker 1: the whole time, let's not give up on them, because
Speaker 1: if you have a top five or six offense, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have a chance. And the thing that you know,
Speaker 1: I'd like to hear from us about was just the
Speaker 1: running game forty eight yards from the two running backs today.
Speaker 1: That as someone who's kind of rooting for the Falcons,
Speaker 1: that makes me feel good because that's the part that
Speaker 1: hasn't really been there for them. Yeah, Tevin Coleman had
Speaker 1: some chunk plays in this game. He had Um, he
Speaker 1: had a good game. But like I said, the Falcons
Speaker 1: controlled the trenches up front, and and they're doing it
Speaker 1: with both guards out for the season. Um. They looked
Speaker 1: well coached in this game, really well. I'm in off
Speaker 1: of bye week ten of thirteen. On third downs, you
Speaker 1: just seem to get Matt Ryan this year two with
Speaker 1: these coordinators. Jake Gruden at halftime said our third down
Speaker 1: defense as a joke, and it was. But part I
Speaker 1: count part of that is Matt Ryan. Like one of
Speaker 1: the things watching them is I would want a lot
Speaker 1: of other a handful of other quarterbacks before Matt Ryan.
Speaker 1: But like Matt Ryan on third and four, I don't
Speaker 1: know Matt Ryan on third and six, like he just right,
Speaker 1: he just you totally trust him, he he. I don't
Speaker 1: know if there's not many better than him in that position.
Speaker 1: Bell can still have a lot of work to do.
Speaker 1: The dig out from this because you get in this NFC,
Speaker 1: you get off to this start where the Redskins can
Speaker 1: win this division. Their NFC is still but they're one
Speaker 1: of a few teams that you remind you every year
Speaker 1: you get these playoff teams that you realize, Oh, I
Speaker 1: don't believe in this team at all, old in the
Speaker 1: terms of their ultimate fate at all. Well, the Redskins
Speaker 1: can't come from behind. They don't have the firepower to
Speaker 1: do it. Um and they got behind seven in this game,
Speaker 1: so that was never going to be a recipe for
Speaker 1: them to come back. Mark the Falcons are a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl picks, So we're okay, we're climbing back in. Everything's okay,
Speaker 1: get Deon. Deon Jones is eligible to come back in
Speaker 1: two weeks. They're defensive. See what's happening here. Keep an
Speaker 1: eye on uh Maurice Harris, who is a big part
Speaker 1: of that Washington offense. Here ten receptions on twelve targets
Speaker 1: for UH. And Adrian Peterson is having kind of a
Speaker 1: weird statistical season where he either has a really big game,
Speaker 1: like a vintage game, or it's these type of games
Speaker 1: where it's like nine for seventeen. Yeah, he doesn't play
Speaker 1: when they get down, but it doesn't help to like
Speaker 1: half throw offensive line exited the field. That that's the thing.
Speaker 1: Like when they've lost, I'm thinking the Saints game, the
Speaker 1: Colts game, the Colts game, and then this one. It's
Speaker 1: like they look so bad when they lose. That just
Speaker 1: makes me think, ultimately, you're kind of a middle of
Speaker 1: the road team, and the Eagles have to be home
Speaker 1: watching this one, thinking, come to Mama, the Eagles can
Speaker 1: just get their act together. I don't know if a
Speaker 1: mom would treat her child at what come to Mama,
Speaker 1: but if it were a mother child relationship, there will
Speaker 1: be more. That's this sounds wrong, ambitious this offense. There's
Speaker 1: a chance to get really healthy next week they play
Speaker 1: the Bucks. That's good, all right. Let's move on third
Speaker 1: down three for Peter Man. He's got it back to
Speaker 1: his left, three receivers to the right, head upt it
Speaker 1: out of the flection. Leonard Flodd hendd touchdown Bears number
Speaker 1: two today. Jeff Joni act w B B M with
Speaker 1: the call. The Chicago Bears intercepted three Nathan Peterman passes,
Speaker 1: including that Leonard Floyd pick six. The Team of a
Speaker 1: T L became the latest team to steam roll the Bills.
Speaker 1: Final score forty one nine in Orchard Park Lot. Uh
Speaker 1: those poor people mark The Bills have reached quasi by
Speaker 1: status for teams fortunate enough to have them on the schedule.
Speaker 1: I mean, especially when when Nathan Peterman is listed as
Speaker 1: the starter and you're a defensive player on the other team.
Speaker 1: You dial up everyone you've ever met, every ex girlfriend,
Speaker 1: every family member, and say turn this on because I'm
Speaker 1: gonna score some points. I mean, the mystery people in
Speaker 1: our love lives that you have to get for the
Speaker 1: Triple Stars all. I mean, if you knew that m
Speaker 1: R Biskuy was gonna throw for a hund in thirty
Speaker 1: five yards and throw a pick, no one's gonna run
Speaker 1: for more than forty seven for Chicago, no one's gonna
Speaker 1: count for more than fifty yards to the air. You
Speaker 1: think Buffalo would have a shot. The final scores forty
Speaker 1: one to nine because of two pick sixes and endless turnovers.
Speaker 1: I mean, Buffalo is unwatchable, and I feel bad for
Speaker 1: Bills chance they cannot get out of their own way
Speaker 1: on offense, and and it does not help that every
Speaker 1: week we have a different terrible quarterback starting. There's no chemistry,
Speaker 1: no flow with anyone in that attack. And games started
Speaker 1: by quarterbacks other than other than Josh Allen, the Bills
Speaker 1: have have one touchdown on offense, and their offenses allowed
Speaker 1: four touchdown with their historically bad and we know negative,
Speaker 1: they're negative. They should just punted on first down they
Speaker 1: would be doing better and and that they clearly the
Speaker 1: Bears listened uh to this podcast because they sat Khalil
Speaker 1: Mack again and they forced four takeaways. Absolutely what happened
Speaker 1: because they almost played him last week, Like whoa whaha,
Speaker 1: the old SUSA is making sense over here. Four takeaways
Speaker 1: and sixty four yards on offense. That's what all these
Speaker 1: teams got to do. Rest anybody you're worried about, because
Speaker 1: the Bills just do not have the ability to score points.
Speaker 1: And I cannot believe they have two wins. I gotta
Speaker 1: say it is crazy because you look at the I
Speaker 1: was thinking, well, if nothing else, that's gonna be a
Speaker 1: good test for Mitchell Robinsky on the road against a
Speaker 1: tough defense. Maybe, you know, let's see some progress from
Speaker 1: the offense. And yet I don't. I don't think you
Speaker 1: can really bang them for only getting eleven first downs
Speaker 1: in a hundred and ninety yards When you win forty
Speaker 1: one to nine, It's like, what's the difference, But it's
Speaker 1: still it's it jumps off the page that that the
Speaker 1: offense didn't move, didn't need to move the ball at all.
Speaker 1: This is a good defense, though, it's just they're just
Speaker 1: you can't get their offense came. I can't. I would
Speaker 1: love to have the research to check, like how many
Speaker 1: teams have gained under two hundred yards and won a
Speaker 1: game by more than thirty points. People are worried that
Speaker 1: we're we've lost that loving feeling for the team of
Speaker 1: a t L. This is a playoff team. I believe
Speaker 1: I'd like to keep all you mean, like me and
Speaker 1: Dan and yeah, basically most of the vast majority of
Speaker 1: plot listeners seem to think that we don't. We're not
Speaker 1: as excited about this team. They have a couple of
Speaker 1: high impact losses, are high profile losses this season. I
Speaker 1: want to see a dramatic win where they really kind
Speaker 1: of show you that's fair, what their ceiling is. But
Speaker 1: in the meantime, they're five and three, and that's a
Speaker 1: good place to be. They've already won almost you know,
Speaker 1: six wins is the most wins they've had since two
Speaker 1: thousand thirteen, so you're one away from that already. And
Speaker 1: poor Bills fans, they're they're having a great time. They're
Speaker 1: throwing themselves to their tables. They're eating rat Ware's in
Speaker 1: the parking lot. It's zero zero to the first quarter, like, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe we could steal this game. Halftime twenty eight nothing
Speaker 1: the Bears. Next four games, they have the reeling Lions
Speaker 1: twice in the Giants once. Uh, that's good. Then the Rams,
Speaker 1: bye bye. That's let's move on. Darnold Batsnapp and they
Speaker 1: handles it, gets the down, throws a Baker down the sideline.
Speaker 1: He got free, touched alred Rome. Baker with them for
Speaker 1: that one. Jimmy Cephalo, the rest of the Dolphins radio
Speaker 1: network having a gay old time Rookie linebacker Jerome Baker
Speaker 1: picked off Sam Donald took it to the house. The
Speaker 1: game settling score UH Dolphins thirteen six win over the
Speaker 1: regressing New York Jets, the dreaded Fish Sweeden their division
Speaker 1: uh foes, and somehow, almost impossibly, they'll reach the second
Speaker 1: week in November above five d and in the thick
Speaker 1: of the a f C wild card race. And if
Speaker 1: you're a Dolphins then you're already getting fired up and
Speaker 1: you're sending off critical tweets at the old Zuser. Well,
Speaker 1: maybe you didn't watch the game, because the Jets are
Speaker 1: a total travesty right now. And he's still you know,
Speaker 1: won by seven points in a game where you scored thirteen.
Speaker 1: So it's I think the Dolphins are very fortunate that
Speaker 1: to have the record they have right now. Uh. And
Speaker 1: they were also that a defense that was under siege
Speaker 1: in the last two weeks. Uh, they had a good,
Speaker 1: get healthy opponent because the Jets are completely lost on offense.
Speaker 1: They actually got back Robbie Anderson and Quincy Innua uh
Speaker 1: in the lineup from injuries. But the offense has now
Speaker 1: gotten to the point and it's regress to the point
Speaker 1: and Sam Donald has regressed and really hit a rookie
Speaker 1: wall here where it doesn't matter because there's just there's
Speaker 1: an issue. There's there's something broken here now with the
Speaker 1: Jets on offense and they are a pitiful watch. And
Speaker 1: I just don't know what what to make. You know what, Keith,
Speaker 1: you tell us about it? His name is Keith. You
Speaker 1: don't doubt about it. He's a big Jets man. What
Speaker 1: does he go to does he go today? Donald really
Speaker 1: should have thrown about seven in deceptions today just at
Speaker 1: the Dolphins dropped the others. Uh. The offensive coordinator Bates,
Speaker 1: I don't know where his mind is at. Uh, the
Speaker 1: play calling that he has, and the fact that the
Speaker 1: head coach was sleeping on the sidelines once again when
Speaker 1: their center couldn't in the shotgun position, could not give
Speaker 1: a decent snap to Donald all day, even after he
Speaker 1: threw it over his head. It's still he did not
Speaker 1: pull the guy. And yeah, I agree, the guy had
Speaker 1: an injured finger, dislocated finger, and I feel bad for that,
Speaker 1: But if the guy can't perform, you gotta pull him.
Speaker 1: Disgraceful of performance by the Jet offense today and no
Speaker 1: adjustments at halftime offensively terrible. Yeah, there it is Spencier
Speaker 1: long as the Jets center. It's been a subplot around
Speaker 1: uh for Jets fans that this guy has been terrible snaps.
Speaker 1: He has an injured finger and it got to the
Speaker 1: point where he had to be benched in this game.
Speaker 1: So that's not helping. But Donald's taken a big step back.
Speaker 1: They have thirty three points scored in their and their
Speaker 1: last three games, all losses. They had zero plays in
Speaker 1: the red zone today against against the Dolphins. Of defense. Again, guys,
Speaker 1: remember the last time we saw the Dolphins defense against
Speaker 1: the Texans, they were the disgrace. So that tells you
Speaker 1: how far off this team is right now. Uh, if
Speaker 1: somebody else wants to get excited about the Dolphins, please do.
Speaker 1: I don't know when Ryan's Handhill's coming back. Brock Oswiler again,
Speaker 1: is just he listen, He's got some ws for them.
Speaker 1: But on a day that Dolphins should be feeling good,
Speaker 1: both tackles got injured, and after the game, one of
Speaker 1: their nucleus players on defense, for Shot Jones, it came
Speaker 1: out that he pulled himself from the game, basically benched
Speaker 1: himself and some Almanda Sagara of the Miami Herald had
Speaker 1: one source that basically said, if he doesn't want to
Speaker 1: play effort, that at why I feel for Dolphins fans
Speaker 1: because this team for so long, even when they get wins,
Speaker 1: it's it's so rarely inspiring. They're so rarely long term hope,
Speaker 1: here's here's the game you want to go to five
Speaker 1: and four. You have that anonymous source. You also have
Speaker 1: offensive players privately sharing their frustrations with brock Oswiler. On offense,
Speaker 1: they had seven first downs. I mean, they won a
Speaker 1: game with seven first downs and a hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: eight total yards, and basically it was just the Dolphins
Speaker 1: defense essentially scored enough to for to win the game.
Speaker 1: And so even when you're winning the game, it's just like, well,
Speaker 1: that's Wilder made the Jets pass rutch look good, which
Speaker 1: tells you something. So he is no good. Rosa Jones,
Speaker 1: by the way, is a guy that's been around for
Speaker 1: a while there. He's been their starting safety since he
Speaker 1: is a core guy on that defense. For him, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's one of their best defensive players. For him to
Speaker 1: pull himself out of the lineup and gaze was that
Speaker 1: after the game. I don't know what I have to
Speaker 1: find out about it. I'd I think Gas is in deep,
Speaker 1: deep trouble regardless of how the seas shouldn't be happening
Speaker 1: to five and four teams four and one at home.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't go into Miami and get a
Speaker 1: win this year. It's not gonna be a hundred degrees
Speaker 1: with a hundred percent of humidity all year. There dan
Speaker 1: one quick thing like, okay, do you view this is
Speaker 1: like a Mitch Robinski stuck into John Fox last year
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears type of exactly how I see it, Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: I think that it was kind of what I was
Speaker 1: worried could happen this year. Is I think it's uh,
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles. I don't think it's fired tomorrow. But I
Speaker 1: don't think Todd Bowles. We're getting to the point where
Speaker 1: it's almost definite he's done and the offensive coordinator is
Speaker 1: not part of the future. This is not Jim Bob
Speaker 1: Cooter sticking around when the new coach gets hired. So
Speaker 1: it's just a matter of don't get hurt and and
Speaker 1: hopefully his confidence doesn't get shot. Here. I'm officially worried
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Speaker 1: there's two guys who are there, but it's Shosh Courton
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Speaker 1: Chris collins Worth there and also Al Michael's of course
Speaker 1: with the call. Sunday Night Football ends with a thirty
Speaker 1: one seventeen win for the New England Patriots, who score
Speaker 1: fourteen unanswered points in the final period. Uh to improve
Speaker 1: to seven and two, a damaging loss for the Green
Speaker 1: Bay Packers, who fall to three four and one. A game, Greg,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna start with you, because you're very happy
Speaker 1: man tonight. A game that turned on the first play
Speaker 1: of the first quarter or the fourth quarter. It is seventeen.
Speaker 1: All the Packers are driving, Aaron Jones gets the ball,
Speaker 1: costs it up, the Packers unable to re cover, the
Speaker 1: Pats pick it up, and from there it was all
Speaker 1: New England. Larry Guy making a play, Trey Flowers making plays,
Speaker 1: Adrian Clayborne making a play. They called Jack just the guy.
Speaker 1: They he's been great that if you had told me,
Speaker 1: you know, when the Packers tied it up seventeen all
Speaker 1: it's what midway through the second quarter, that they wouldn't
Speaker 1: score another point the other night the rest of the night,
Speaker 1: I would have been stunned. And this win to me
Speaker 1: is the most meaningful of the Patriots season, just because
Speaker 1: they did it without Gronk, they did it without Sonny Michelle.
Speaker 1: You have Cordurel Patterson in the backfield, you have the
Speaker 1: defense really holding up their end of the bargain, and
Speaker 1: it just felt like kind of one of those old
Speaker 1: School Patriots types of games that makes you think that, okay,
Speaker 1: they can go they can go on a run this
Speaker 1: year West This was embarrassing for the Packers. How do
Speaker 1: you lose to that team. They're running Philip Door setting
Speaker 1: Dwayne Allen out there, Your wide receivers are running back.
Speaker 1: No Gronk, no Sonny Michelle. This is just embarrassing for
Speaker 1: the Packers. They had so much better personnel on the
Speaker 1: field and the game and they got out coached. I
Speaker 1: thought the Aaron Jones fumble reminded me of the Adam
Speaker 1: Feeling fumble from these Saints Vikings game, and we could
Speaker 1: go where nothing was the same after because right after
Speaker 1: that the Patriots, who had been you could they were
Speaker 1: hedged in on offense, Suddenly they get into trick play territory.
Speaker 1: Edelman throws the ball to James White, who sets up
Speaker 1: the next touchdown. The Packers come out on the next drive,
Speaker 1: go a quick three and out with an awful sack
Speaker 1: on Rogers that had included a helmet to helmet hit,
Speaker 1: and then bang, game over. Patriots scored to Josh Gordon
Speaker 1: next drive. Packers just lost to a team who's best
Speaker 1: player is a scap back I mean, first of all,
Speaker 1: their best players, Tom Brady. Tom Brady is not playing
Speaker 1: that well. He's not playing as well as as is
Speaker 1: m v P level. He is playing plenty well. Judge
Speaker 1: at quarterback. In this game, Rodgers made more plays, but
Speaker 1: ultimately it was held. Rogers was held to six yards
Speaker 1: for attempt Who look at that the first lock off
Speaker 1: of the season. If you're wondering why there's a little
Speaker 1: heat between the scientists right now, Greg locks up the Patriots.
Speaker 1: It's gets the double. West counted on the Packers, and
Speaker 1: they did. They came up small West for you that
Speaker 1: they really did. They came up small. The Reps had
Speaker 1: had a hand. Yes, are you saying Operation pig Ponies
Speaker 1: in in play here? That running into the kicker car
Speaker 1: give me didn't make it difference. Adrian Claiborne's helmet, the
Speaker 1: helmet hit on on Rogers. Give me a break, and
Speaker 1: how about score score some points when you get no doubt?
Speaker 1: The Packers should be embarrassed that they only scored seventeen points.
Speaker 1: I mean, also, you know, Chris should be a little
Speaker 1: embarrassed at least for making a speech like it was,
Speaker 1: you know, Gettysburg address or something when the Packers had
Speaker 1: stopped the Patriots on the goal goal. Should be embarrassed.
Speaker 1: You said that was going to change their season. This
Speaker 1: isn't a debate, it's a call to arms, Greg, American
Speaker 1: needs the Packers to win. If you're not aware of
Speaker 1: what West said, this is what he said. You're feeling
Speaker 1: right now rooting against the Patriots, and it's fun. I
Speaker 1: probably should have started this years ago. We all know
Speaker 1: that Belichick lost it. He's passed his problem ever since
Speaker 1: the Malcolm Butler benching and that you just see him
Speaker 1: go for it on fourth down and get the nine.
Speaker 1: Games are built on that, seasons are built on. Packers
Speaker 1: has momentum. America needs Aaron Rodgers in the playoffs, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna get them. With a win in this game.
Speaker 1: They're gonna build all that and life will be ascended
Speaker 1: for the Green Bay Packers. It went all wrong with
Speaker 1: that was from pariscope. That was I mean, I was
Speaker 1: in character, Greg, Well, you also did that off camera
Speaker 1: right before that happened this the same time, spinning character
Speaker 1: this whole game, and the Packers let me down. They
Speaker 1: really did. They killed you here and and you're right
Speaker 1: with gron not playing Brady not sharp. At one point
Speaker 1: he had in completions on sixth straight passes, seven out
Speaker 1: of eight. And we talked about this leading into this game,
Speaker 1: that this has not been a pristine Tom Brady year.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, mark here we
Speaker 1: are seven and two. The Patriots obviously have the AFC
Speaker 1: East on lockdown, their closest competitor as the Dolphins, and
Speaker 1: they are right in the mix again to get the
Speaker 1: bye and a big win over an NFC team. They're
Speaker 1: more than in the X They're just gonna do it.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do it. I mean, we will see, we will.
Speaker 1: We will sit here for the next seven or eight
Speaker 1: or nine weeks while we see. How come on the
Speaker 1: one that's in like, not a bad mood. I should
Speaker 1: like My one thing is into Green Bay's offense. Get
Speaker 1: it done for once. I'm tired of hearing about the
Speaker 1: potential you. This is a tough stretch, the Rams and
Speaker 1: the Patriots. No shame in losing to both of these teams.
Speaker 1: But you are three four and one, and you're in
Speaker 1: a hole right now, and there are three or four
Speaker 1: teams that are clearly better than you in the NFC.
Speaker 1: You're right before we taket them for GLORI and I
Speaker 1: think they're they're far from out of it at three
Speaker 1: four and one, and you're you're right. But if you're
Speaker 1: a Packers fan, you do want to you do want
Speaker 1: those games where, hey, you're coaching staff breaks out the
Speaker 1: trick plays at seventeen you know what I mean, You're
Speaker 1: coaching staff comes up with a guy like Cardorrel Patterson
Speaker 1: uh running huge plays for that that team that the
Speaker 1: Patriots ran those two and they were both kind into
Speaker 1: trick plays, but especially the first one to James White
Speaker 1: because they needed it. Like they have an uncanny especially
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, has an uncanny ability for breaking out those
Speaker 1: plays when nothing is going right and and they usually
Speaker 1: work and at work tonight. And I'll just say this,
Speaker 1: and Mark, we talked about this off Mike before while
Speaker 1: the game was going on. Sometimes it might feel like
Speaker 1: excuses get made on behalf of Aaron Rodgers when you
Speaker 1: look at how the Packers really have not gotten the
Speaker 1: job done in the last eight years or so since
Speaker 1: their Super Bowl appearance. But it does get frustrating game
Speaker 1: after game, year after year. And we'll use the last
Speaker 1: two weeks for as an example here. Uh. Last week
Speaker 1: it was time Montgommery's silly decision to run the ball
Speaker 1: out of the end zone lad to a fumble cost
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers a chance to play hero ball. This week's
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones just not fundamentally sound, not covering up the ball. Uh,
Speaker 1: it leads to the turnover, puts them down, and it
Speaker 1: just you just want to see Rogers surrounded by guys
Speaker 1: that sack up and get the job done. And it
Speaker 1: just more often than not, I find I find that
Speaker 1: Rogers is fighting an uphill battle against these uppershl on
Speaker 1: team because the rest of the team doesn't come to play.
Speaker 1: And to your point, they've given up thirty one thirty
Speaker 1: one points on defense over the last four weeks. I
Speaker 1: would say this though, it's like it's a it's a
Speaker 1: study in one organization that no matter who they have
Speaker 1: to put out there, does not make these key mistakes,
Speaker 1: and they find a way to get into good situations
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. And you can't ask you and
Speaker 1: Rogers to bail you out week after right, And I
Speaker 1: misspoke earlier that the Packers did score in the second half.
Speaker 1: They had a touchdown in the second half, but Rogers.
Speaker 1: He he has a high bar that he needs to
Speaker 1: play too, and you have to take advantage. This is
Speaker 1: not a great Patriots defense. You get the ball late
Speaker 1: in the first half, you kind of expect Rogers to
Speaker 1: go down and score points there. He doesn't do it.
Speaker 1: They make that goal line stand and you're thinking, okay,
Speaker 1: here we go Packers offense, like, let's get something going.
Speaker 1: They go three and out and kick the ball right back.
Speaker 1: So there's different moments about where he's allowed to have
Speaker 1: some touchdown drives at the end of the game, and
Speaker 1: he came up small there right and and he made
Speaker 1: If you just made the best five throws of the game,
Speaker 1: he probably made him. So that's why it's it's frustrating
Speaker 1: to watch when he can do so many spectacular things.
Speaker 1: But but the cohesiveness that Brady and McDaniels have. No
Speaker 1: one is ever doubting the technical artistry and all this
Speaker 1: stuff that separates Aaron Rodgers. But part of it is
Speaker 1: just it's not just the quarterback, it's the whole team.
Speaker 1: And the Packers are a disappointing team in the Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy era for how little they've achieved with how much
Speaker 1: potential they've had and and my last thought is it
Speaker 1: is hyper as a Jets fan is someone that's done
Speaker 1: with the Patriots, it's hyper annoying that Josh Gordon is
Speaker 1: a star for the Patriots. You're not the only one annoyed.
Speaker 1: I think it's I mean, let's get over to let
Speaker 1: we have to get over to this point. But it's
Speaker 1: like again, it feels it feels untoward because it's the Browns,
Speaker 1: but that this was a we talked about fatal flaw
Speaker 1: type things. They needed a playmaker in the worst way,
Speaker 1: and one fell into the left for a fifth round pick.
Speaker 1: This guy is taking their offense to another level. He
Speaker 1: he was the most you're talking about the most valuable
Speaker 1: player to me. His presents there tonight. They could not
Speaker 1: have lived without without Gronk, without much of a running game.
Speaker 1: They need Gordon to start making those one on one
Speaker 1: plays and he is. Now. I mean, you're right, but
Speaker 1: the rest of the league could have given up a
Speaker 1: fourth round pick for him. So it's not all just
Speaker 1: falling into your lap. It's it's having Brady Bell checking
Speaker 1: Nick Daniels, having a place where he can go and thrive,
Speaker 1: and it's making that trade. It's the competitive advantage of
Speaker 1: being Bill Belichick with the last twenty years give him
Speaker 1: so much leeway to make these kinds of moves because
Speaker 1: he's playing with house money. All right, there you go.
Speaker 1: So thirty one seventeen Patriots beat the Packers. That is
Speaker 1: our week nine recap. One more game to play on
Speaker 1: Monday that will be the Cowboys and Titans from Gerald World.
Speaker 1: Will have that recap on our Tuesday Twitter show, which
Speaker 1: you could check out at one thirty Pacific, four thirty eastern,
Speaker 1: nine thirty in the UK, and the next audio show
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Speaker 1: all that out. Thank you to everyone for listening. This
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