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Speaker 1: Mental tossed to John's running right, good rockin touchdown. I
Speaker 1: want to start for the Packers. Now third down and
Speaker 1: goal and Zone's caught Paul Win touchdown. Flint's coming off
Speaker 1: the edge, passed hard, touchdown Dixon perfectly laid out fair
Speaker 1: by Russell Wilson. Twenty seven, twenty four Seahawks over the Packers.
Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal alongside uh my fellow scientist Chris wesseleyn
Speaker 1: We're gonna send it over to Dan Hansis and Mark
Speaker 1: Sessler in preview all the week eleven games in just
Speaker 1: a bit. But first we got to talk about what
Speaker 1: felt to me like the first game of the end
Speaker 1: of the season, Like this was the first game where
Speaker 1: it's a little cold there. It's two teams on the ropes.
Speaker 1: It's a really great back and forth matchup between two
Speaker 1: great quarterbacks. It was the first game of the season
Speaker 1: that felt late to me, and the Packers ended up
Speaker 1: coming up really small at late in this game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was also a loser goes home game, and sure,
Speaker 1: mathematically the Packers aren't out of it. And you know
Speaker 1: you can. If you're a Packers fan, you can talk
Speaker 1: yourself into the run the table. I for the first time,
Speaker 1: I'm out. I agree with you. McCarthy's gotta go. The
Speaker 1: game management was horrendous, um from the uh neglecting to
Speaker 1: challenge Tyler Lockets thirty thirty four yard completion that ended
Speaker 1: up with the game winning touchdown to Ed Dixon a
Speaker 1: couple of plays later, to punting with four minutes left
Speaker 1: and just one time out remaining, which meant Seattle could
Speaker 1: just pick up two first downs and end the game too.
Speaker 1: You know, the disconnect with his quarterback and situational football.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, I have never in all my time watching
Speaker 1: football begged the quarterback to take a checkdown until this game.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers just refused to take a checkdown, and that
Speaker 1: situational football. I don't know how much of that is
Speaker 1: on his cock sure, impro improv improv I don't I
Speaker 1: can't say his playing style or or McCarthy's stale offense
Speaker 1: where the receivers just aren't open. I don't know. But
Speaker 1: Aaron Aaron Jones was open for checkdowns. He was out
Speaker 1: a couple of the late drives. It was a tough
Speaker 1: second half for Aaron Rodgers. He said on the final
Speaker 1: throw he threw uh into the dirt, a wide open
Speaker 1: receiver on third and two, that the ball kind of
Speaker 1: stuck to his hand on that play, and you would
Speaker 1: have loved to see McCarthy go for And that's why
Speaker 1: I do think McCarthy is gonna get replaced assuming they
Speaker 1: don't make the playoffs. Is it's not just that they
Speaker 1: blow the time out so you don't call the challenges
Speaker 1: and you know you're counting on these isolation routes and
Speaker 1: these young receivers to get open on their own. It's
Speaker 1: that you don't have a feel of your own team,
Speaker 1: you don't have a feel of the game that's in
Speaker 1: front of you. The two previous drives that the Seahawks had,
Speaker 1: they went up and down the field and through the
Speaker 1: packers like they weren't even there. They were down four
Speaker 1: starters total going into the game. The Packers defense had
Speaker 1: lost Mike Daniels in this game, they lost Bashad Brelan,
Speaker 1: they lost another reserve uh safety in the game. They
Speaker 1: Kenny Clark was in and out at the end of
Speaker 1: the game. And so that's why, Okay, we need two yards.
Speaker 1: Let's trust Aaron Rodgers. And I've made this point before
Speaker 1: in the podcast. But if you don't get the two yards,
Speaker 1: your defense that you think can get a three and
Speaker 1: out can still get a three and out and try
Speaker 1: to force them to to kick a longer field goal.
Speaker 1: So that killed me, But it also killed me as
Speaker 1: someone who you know is wanting the Packers to make
Speaker 1: a run here to see their offense only score three
Speaker 1: points on five possessions in the second half, and and
Speaker 1: some of that was on Rogers. I gotta admit, this
Speaker 1: is a game where he made two of the best
Speaker 1: throws you'll see all season, and a few other great plays,
Speaker 1: but also, like you mentioned, was taken too many sacks,
Speaker 1: holding onto the ball too long, and I was rooting
Speaker 1: for him because I locked him up with not a
Speaker 1: good sign for any team these days. A certain segment
Speaker 1: of of Packers Twitter and their fan base has been
Speaker 1: saying this all year that has been an issue and
Speaker 1: that we've been overrating Rogers and maybe we have, and
Speaker 1: maybe that's a byproduct of watching condensed on game pass
Speaker 1: that we don't see situational football as much, because this
Speaker 1: has been an issue and I've been calling it nebulous
Speaker 1: things like they seem to be able to move the
Speaker 1: ball at will until they can't, but that situational football,
Speaker 1: and it's a problem. Well, he also threw thirty passes
Speaker 1: for three thirty two yards, two touchdowns, no interceptions. You know,
Speaker 1: he was spectacular. Yeah, for for I'd say you can't
Speaker 1: look past that on first and second downs he was.
Speaker 1: He was spectacular. And Aaron Jones to get eighty eight
Speaker 1: yards and two touchdowns in the first half and become
Speaker 1: an afterthought right in the game, That's what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's it's third and two in that late situation, and
Speaker 1: you don't, you know, you could that should be four
Speaker 1: downs you you have been saying it the Saints have
Speaker 1: an advantage because they're playing with four downs. You're telling
Speaker 1: me Aaron Jones wasn't gonna pick up two yards if
Speaker 1: they run the ball in one of the run plays,
Speaker 1: or run it on either of those two plays. But
Speaker 1: you do have to give the seahous least just now
Speaker 1: getting used to Mike McCarthy is just now getting used
Speaker 1: to playing Andrew Jones. He's not yet ready to Aaron
Speaker 1: give him. Yeah, Aaron Jones, He's not ready to give
Speaker 1: him the ball with the game on the line. I mean,
Speaker 1: there was a lot going on in this game. There
Speaker 1: were some crazy calls by the officials. A huge miss
Speaker 1: to pass, interference call on Bobby Wagner, just absolutely huge.
Speaker 1: There there was the mis challenge that maybe maybe McCarthy
Speaker 1: didn't get a good look at it, uh, And there
Speaker 1: were some rough throws by Russell Wilson. But there were
Speaker 1: also some beautiful throws when it really mattered in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, including on the play before the long throw
Speaker 1: to lock it, which was also very nice, the one
Speaker 1: that that didn't get overturned. He made a gorgeous throw
Speaker 1: on third and nine to lock it in tight coverage,
Speaker 1: and that that's what six and a half minutes left.
Speaker 1: It's a key part of the game. That's a beauty
Speaker 1: third and nine on the goal line. He knows just
Speaker 1: what to do when he sees the formation, that's for
Speaker 1: the game winning touchdown. So you have to give Wilson
Speaker 1: and their defense a lot of credit after falling down
Speaker 1: fourteen three and it almost could have been seventeen nothing early,
Speaker 1: for coming back in the final three quarters and really
Speaker 1: being the better team that there was that David Moore
Speaker 1: play that got challenged and even though it appeared that
Speaker 1: the ball is Joscelyn between his chest and arm the
Speaker 1: entire time, they did not, they still called it a
Speaker 1: completion and and that one, I guess could have gone
Speaker 1: either way. It looked incomplete to me. But um, Seattle
Speaker 1: got the brakes in this game. And but that's this
Speaker 1: is why, you know, that's why I love the NFL,
Speaker 1: And this is why, uh, this is the best time
Speaker 1: of year because these two teams they're not winning the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl this year, but they gave us an entertainment.
Speaker 1: They gave us a lot. There were so many different
Speaker 1: plays throughout the game, good, bad, everything that you could
Speaker 1: have gotten into. And you know, I know, you say
Speaker 1: they're the Packers are done, and yeah, of course they're
Speaker 1: probably done. They also play the Vikings next week. So
Speaker 1: if they beat the Vikings, are you telling me they're done.
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's a conversation probably for next week.
Speaker 1: With their game management and situational football, I think they're done.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's non game away. If you beat
Speaker 1: the Packers next Vikings next week, are you done. I
Speaker 1: don't think their problems can be solved. They seem to
Speaker 1: be philosophical and deeply ingrained. Well maybe, uh Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: and Packers fans are taken one for the team this year,
Speaker 1: and it will be a better day when Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: gets replaced in the off season. But until then, we
Speaker 1: gotta look ahead. We gotta look to week eleven, and
Speaker 1: for that, let's send it over. It's a Danny boy
Speaker 1: be Around the NFL Podcast, Dan, Greg West, Mark, Welcome
Speaker 1: to another edition I mean Around is the Podcast. My
Speaker 1: name is Dan Anserson, joined in a room filled with heroes,
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris Wesley, Can, Greg Rose, Dolf. What he's
Speaker 1: up boys, Hey dude? Right off the top, A little
Speaker 1: bit of breaking news, A little bit of breaking news.
Speaker 1: The NFL Media Holiday Party. For the first time ever
Speaker 1: in all the years we've worked at the company. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be a plus one. You could bring a date.
Speaker 1: How about that? That's gonna be a fun day long overdue?
Speaker 1: Are you all bringing dates? Bringing my wife? Are you okay? Well?
Speaker 1: Why don't you? I I don't know if Evaka is
Speaker 1: gonna want to go or not. Mabe if we get
Speaker 1: walked there, so I would think she would be doubt
Speaker 1: for it. Why not? But you never know, Wes, you
Speaker 1: and Lakisha could actually bring another couple. You can if
Speaker 1: that's what we decided to get into. Wow, you have
Speaker 1: a plus two, Ricky Hollywood. How about you you bring
Speaker 1: somebody special? Felt personal? No, not as a plus one.
Speaker 1: You're gonna bring somebody special. Yeah that personal personal? Because
Speaker 1: you're oh you're driving the night okay, because she's alone.
Speaker 1: There's a bit of a yeah, little little back. So
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to do that. You can bring a friend,
Speaker 1: by the way, Yeah, you do have friends, A lot
Speaker 1: of good looking friends too. But you've been hurt, is
Speaker 1: what you're hitting out? Yeah, it's gonna be a lonely
Speaker 1: holiday season. I did I um, I've been in that
Speaker 1: boat before. If you break up right before Christmas, it
Speaker 1: is I wouldn't worry. I wouldn't wish it on my
Speaker 1: worst enemy. Erica. Thanks Dan. I know guys who broke
Speaker 1: up with their girlfriends back in the day just to
Speaker 1: get out of buying a gift as a bad guy.
Speaker 1: Multiple guys that Ricky, Ricky, this is the better way
Speaker 1: to look at it, because I don't want you to
Speaker 1: be sad or loneliest holiday season. Maybe with this time
Speaker 1: that we have the parties in about a month, cultivate
Speaker 1: something and then all of a sudden, by time that
Speaker 1: party hits you're already kind of in the early stages
Speaker 1: of a beautiful new relationship. Yeah, that's that's the plan.
Speaker 1: I gotta you know, got a g suite set up
Speaker 1: already with perspective. Nothing. Nothing would be better, you know,
Speaker 1: for a very early stages of any relationship than to
Speaker 1: introduce that person to all of us and everyone at work.
Speaker 1: Nothing could be well the one I mean, this whole party,
Speaker 1: this whole situation. I think it's a smart move by
Speaker 1: the league because I know it probably costs more in
Speaker 1: all that business, but definitely, but it's gonna put a
Speaker 1: massive lid on what would be one of the drunkest
Speaker 1: nights of the year for many many people. Now, you
Speaker 1: you can't operate in that fashion for the most part,
Speaker 1: not everyone, but I'd stand in there are a large
Speaker 1: portion of people are gonna be like, oh, it's time
Speaker 1: to go. Guys, we've been for eight years. Wait, why
Speaker 1: don't you think if you have people, they're like, if
Speaker 1: you're with your significant other in a get more loose.
Speaker 1: You know. I just think that when it's just because
Speaker 1: it's there's a little bit of an edge to these
Speaker 1: parties when it's just the employees and you. And there
Speaker 1: was also anger that you're never allowed to bring a
Speaker 1: guest and you'd go there and people would there would
Speaker 1: be nothing to do that You've already talked to these
Speaker 1: people all day long, and then to get simply hammered
Speaker 1: beyond comprehension. Now there's a whole extra layer of I
Speaker 1: think we'll be Yeah, I think you'll be able to
Speaker 1: overcome this obstitcle still get hammered, gotten comprehension. We've marked
Speaker 1: we could do it. We've had a I won't say
Speaker 1: who the person is, but they've been on this podcast report.
Speaker 1: We've had to put somebody in a cab because they
Speaker 1: got a little out of control. We once left a
Speaker 1: man on the side of the road slumped at a
Speaker 1: bus stop because it was just time to go. Ye.
Speaker 1: Notice we were the responsible ones in both situations leaving
Speaker 1: people out of bus stop. Maybe not so much in
Speaker 1: that one, but in the first one we helped the
Speaker 1: presence of Emily and Simone will keep the sizzler and
Speaker 1: the old juicer and check a little bit. I I
Speaker 1: just I think that's not a bad thing, but I
Speaker 1: do see that as a reality. Um, you heard right
Speaker 1: at the top of the show, West and Greg the
Speaker 1: scientists breakdown Packers Seahawks. But that's not all we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about today. We have the rest of week eleven
Speaker 1: uh to dig into as we preview the last slate
Speaker 1: of games before Thanksgiving. And everybody knows everybody knows Dog
Speaker 1: the season on the start until after Thanksgiving, which on
Speaker 1: some levels is completely malarkey, but also it does get
Speaker 1: real after Thanksgiving. But this is a big week, Greg,
Speaker 1: because these are the weeks the teams that are kind
Speaker 1: of hovering or maybe a game under at five hundred,
Speaker 1: they put themselves in a really bad position if if
Speaker 1: they lose at this stage of the season and start
Speaker 1: to fall further behind that five hundred buy the Thanksgiving bit, Dog, Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't come in. You can't be like, hey, it's
Speaker 1: post Thanksgiving, we're two and nine, right, but their season
Speaker 1: never exists. Yeah, it never happened. They were never in
Speaker 1: the mix. But after Thanksgiving you can start. That's when
Speaker 1: you can start cry. Send some of these teams off
Speaker 1: and when the games feel crossing them off way before things.
Speaker 1: Yeah that feels late to me. But four and six,
Speaker 1: you know, five and seven, like, there's no coming back
Speaker 1: from these type of things. So you gotta get dubs
Speaker 1: and we're gonna go through all these teams, including some
Speaker 1: teams that are in that danger zone. You know, maybe
Speaker 1: there's some loser goes home matches. We're gonna go through
Speaker 1: it all. That's what we do. Let us start with
Speaker 1: the early games, as we always do. We like to
Speaker 1: go in order here because that gives a structure. Structure
Speaker 1: is important. We've got to make sure to leave a
Speaker 1: lot of time effort because these ending games, the two
Speaker 1: primetime games this week, there's a couple that we can
Speaker 1: spend a little less. So I was just talking about it.
Speaker 1: Here we are the four and five Dallas Cowboys and
Speaker 1: the four and five Atlanta Falcons. Uh Mark and the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are coming off uh, perhaps their biggest win of
Speaker 1: the season. They won't go on the road on Sunday
Speaker 1: Night football when you think they're dead after they lose
Speaker 1: two straight games. Uh, and they beat the Eagles, and
Speaker 1: they even convincingly. Um. But here are the Falcons, who
Speaker 1: we all like offensively, but that that lost last week
Speaker 1: to Cleveland really knocked a lot of wind out of
Speaker 1: their sales. I thought that was an absolutely killer defeat
Speaker 1: for Atlanta and not right, you have no wiggle room,
Speaker 1: and it's the quintessential four four and five first four
Speaker 1: and five team. The loser of this is in hot water.
Speaker 1: One thing about Atlanta last week because they have been
Speaker 1: so consistently good on offense, and they got their yardage,
Speaker 1: but they didn't get their points. And Cleveland did a
Speaker 1: nice job in that game of shutting down big plays
Speaker 1: with their zone defense. And now you go and face
Speaker 1: a Cowboys number three overall scoring defense that I view
Speaker 1: is completely legitimate, and they're well coached and Matt Ryan
Speaker 1: and I know some of these are historical and we
Speaker 1: don't care about the historical business, but he is one
Speaker 1: and eleven verse top three scoring defenses. It's at home
Speaker 1: that helps a lot they're not. They're not the same
Speaker 1: team on the road the Falcons. That's that's another historical element.
Speaker 1: But which are these two teams? Do you trust more?
Speaker 1: Because right now, I I agree with you. I cannot
Speaker 1: go Atlanta right now and trust of these two. I mean,
Speaker 1: I trust the Falcons because a week ago at this time,
Speaker 1: we were all burying the Cowboys, pouring gasoline on I'm
Speaker 1: saying they were an absolute mess, and for the most part,
Speaker 1: the Falcons offense is what they've been the same the
Speaker 1: whole season. It wasn't the best game in Cleveland, but
Speaker 1: I don't think it was embarrassing, and I think they're
Speaker 1: They're a better team and certainly a better offense than
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, who who we saw it for one week.
Speaker 1: But now they're going up against the Falcons defense. Who's
Speaker 1: gonna have Dion Jones back. That's a pretty big deal.
Speaker 1: Everyone said, Okay, the Falcons defense, it's the injuries. That's why. Well,
Speaker 1: Ricardo Allen has been replaced by DeVante CAZy and who's
Speaker 1: played as well as Ricardo Allen, Who's gonna play, He's
Speaker 1: played great. Dion Jones is now back, who's kind of
Speaker 1: the key in that mix. So right now, you're really
Speaker 1: down Kean O'Neil. They haven't been a good defense, but
Speaker 1: they should be better, especially at home. I want to
Speaker 1: see if the Cowboys offense is different now. I mean
Speaker 1: you said two weeks ago we didn't trust him. Well
Speaker 1: a Mari Cooper came in and opened up this offense.
Speaker 1: He opened up room for his Equel Elliott. He's getting
Speaker 1: open almost every route on the outside. And this is
Speaker 1: a different offense now, so I do trust the Cowboys more.
Speaker 1: The Falcons want to play shootouts in that dome, Cowboys
Speaker 1: want to slow the game down. Would be an interesting
Speaker 1: contrast in style. It is because it's in an offense
Speaker 1: defense matchup we've talked about a lot this year. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is the ultimate like good offense versus good defense
Speaker 1: team because because the Cowboys do have a good defense.
Speaker 1: I don't know how far that gets here. This kind
Speaker 1: of screams to me. Two things. I like we're talking
Speaker 1: about we love the Falcons at home at least, and
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan is having as good as season as he's
Speaker 1: had concluding the VY m VP campaign. However, Zekel Elliott
Speaker 1: was excellent on Sunday Night, and now he's going into
Speaker 1: a dome and he's gonna face a team that can't
Speaker 1: stop the run. I would not be surprised if we
Speaker 1: get a Zeke Elliott that even surpasses what he did
Speaker 1: against the Eagles, maybe a hundred and seventy five yards
Speaker 1: in total offense in that range. And if the Cowboys
Speaker 1: can get that type of performance, they could be to
Speaker 1: much anybody. Uh, And that's kind of what where I
Speaker 1: see this game heading. I think Elliot's gonna have another
Speaker 1: monster game and the Cowboys win. I think to West's point,
Speaker 1: they went since they acquired Cooper, they've gone from twenty
Speaker 1: nine to fifteen and passing yardage and they're able to
Speaker 1: now use and they've done us a lot more of
Speaker 1: the last two weeks, three wide receiver sets to help
Speaker 1: diskies other stuff they're doing. You're a more functional offense
Speaker 1: than you were. And he looked good, look fine, And
Speaker 1: that's the key part. And this is a great matchup.
Speaker 1: The quarterback is such a mismatch. I did want to
Speaker 1: mention in this game just because it's the Cowboys that
Speaker 1: Jane Slater had to report on Travis Frederick this week. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know the center that's been on injured reserve that
Speaker 1: he's just now getting feeling back in his fingers and
Speaker 1: he still has no feeling uh in his feet, which
Speaker 1: is incredible to me that this is not a bigger
Speaker 1: story or I guess it's just something you're not gonna
Speaker 1: know about. It's a strange syndrome, but it's it's pretty sad.
Speaker 1: One of the best players in the league and for
Speaker 1: months he has not had feelings in his fingers or
Speaker 1: his feet. Uh. Let us um uvon, gentlemen. The Cincinnati
Speaker 1: ben Gals, who really, um, let's face it, got humiliated
Speaker 1: in their own building by the Saints, who drop a
Speaker 1: fifty burger on them. Uh. But there's still five and
Speaker 1: four for all the You know, we dismissed the Bengals,
Speaker 1: but that was a five and three team, So they're
Speaker 1: still okay at five and four. But now they got
Speaker 1: to go get a win and they're gonna be facing
Speaker 1: a desperate, uh free falling Ravens team West. Uh. And
Speaker 1: we don't even know as the time of recording this podcast,
Speaker 1: who's going to be the quarterback for for the Ravens.
Speaker 1: Is that going to decide who wins this game? To you? No,
Speaker 1: I think, to me, this is a test for the
Speaker 1: Ravens if their offense can't get right at home against
Speaker 1: this crumbling defense. I'll stop saying they're better than their record,
Speaker 1: But to me, it's clear that the November Ravens, even
Speaker 1: off a three game losing streaks, are a much better
Speaker 1: team than the current iteration of the Bengals. Well, I
Speaker 1: don't think we'll see Joe. It would be surprising at
Speaker 1: this point if Joe Flacco played. So Lamar Jackson missed
Speaker 1: practice on Thursday with the stomach issue. There was some
Speaker 1: thought by Ian rappaport Are Insider that some sort of
Speaker 1: games are being played here. John Harba is enjoying the
Speaker 1: fact that no one seems to know who the starter is.
Speaker 1: My gut feeling is we'll see plenty of Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: and r G three in in this game. And I
Speaker 1: think the Ravens are a better team, that their defense
Speaker 1: is the best group on the field, and they can
Speaker 1: win no matter who's a quarterback. And I feel like
Speaker 1: you could put Raggedy Ann under center. She put up
Speaker 1: forty points on the Spengles defense right now. They were
Speaker 1: absolutely devastated in the course of like fifteen minutes last
Speaker 1: week against the against the Saints. And it's not like
Speaker 1: Flacco was a guy that was, you know, tearing up
Speaker 1: the world in the last four or five weeks anyway,
Speaker 1: So it's not the worst thing to see what happens
Speaker 1: if you put a different quarterback under center. Just matter,
Speaker 1: are those guys whoever it will be, um, are they
Speaker 1: prepared for the moment, because this is you're You're thrusting
Speaker 1: him into the middle of a playoff race when they
Speaker 1: haven't had really much work at all. Well, Mark's statement
Speaker 1: about Raggedy Ann inspired me to lock up the raven
Speaker 1: in this game. I don't care who's under center the Bengals,
Speaker 1: You're just not what. But so we've seen the Bengals
Speaker 1: for a long time. We have not seen the Bengals
Speaker 1: with Hugh Jackson in a long time. So maybe no,
Speaker 1: he's working with the defense too. That doesn't help. He's
Speaker 1: working with the defense primarily, he's helping Marvin Lewis on
Speaker 1: the dub. The biggest Bengal's biggest problem to me, or
Speaker 1: at least the most that they've changed, is their offense.
Speaker 1: I mean, they were a really good offense early in
Speaker 1: the year and now they've gotten sub mediocre. They looked
Speaker 1: pretty poor last week overall, even though Joe Mixon is
Speaker 1: back and looks looks great, their offensive line is not
Speaker 1: playing well and they miss Tyler Iford's unlikely not happening,
Speaker 1: not practicing, that's gonna be tough. They're in trouble. There
Speaker 1: are a lot of trouble. West. I think you're in good,
Speaker 1: in good shape there with your lock of the week.
Speaker 1: Let's move on to Carolina Panthers six and three got
Speaker 1: humbled ate some humble pie Thanksgiving humble by good rough
Speaker 1: early Thanksgiving. Uh, they got a fifty burger burger dropped
Speaker 1: on him. But here's a here's a good way to
Speaker 1: get healthy. Uh. Play the Lions who have stopped showing
Speaker 1: up the last three weeks of the season. Greg. So
Speaker 1: here's a battle between two former number one overall picks.
Speaker 1: And we asked on Wednesday show in the mailbag section,
Speaker 1: is Matt Stafford good? All right? Well, Matt Stafford, don't
Speaker 1: win a game and keep your team in convention contention
Speaker 1: this season. Go win a football game. It's a team sport, though,
Speaker 1: you know, win a game. It's a quarterback position. We
Speaker 1: say it all. What's the Vince Lombardi quote? West, Go
Speaker 1: win a game. If you're a superstar, if you're one
Speaker 1: of the highest paid players, go nuts. I mean, he
Speaker 1: I didn't think that's what is the quote that I'm
Speaker 1: referring to. Its football is the ultimate team game. It's
Speaker 1: the best game in the world except for one factor,
Speaker 1: the glaring imbalanced. The quarterback is way too important in
Speaker 1: this game, though I don't think they're not. Really that
Speaker 1: was nothing like what you said, uh, in this game,
Speaker 1: I don't think that the Panthers have some gigantic quarterback
Speaker 1: edge though. It's just the two quarterbacks are are in
Speaker 1: the same ballpark of it, and one team is way.
Speaker 1: But I didn't think Stafford played that battly last week.
Speaker 1: The offensive line was terrible. This team is so different
Speaker 1: without Marvin Jones on the field they have They had
Speaker 1: like a hundred and eighty pound guy never heard of.
Speaker 1: You couldn't get open against man coverage last week. And
Speaker 1: I think the Panthers game was a little bit of
Speaker 1: a fluke. And I already you know, made my my
Speaker 1: lock of the week. Um. But this Lions team, it's
Speaker 1: one of the as you said, it's one of the
Speaker 1: worst teams in the league. We've we've kind of been
Speaker 1: thinking they're in the mix because they were three and
Speaker 1: three football outsiders there below the Browns. There twenty nine
Speaker 1: in the league, and they were close to that even
Speaker 1: before this three games stretch. And so even though I
Speaker 1: can't lock it up, I know the Panthers are favored
Speaker 1: in this game, and I think this is not gambling advice. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: But even though the Panthers are favored, this is gonna
Speaker 1: be something I'm calling my rainmaker of the week right there.
Speaker 1: What does that means? It's gonna just be rated down
Speaker 1: money if you believe in the Panthers. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. People can jack up that spread doesn't better.
Speaker 1: I'm shocked that it's not significantly more because because I
Speaker 1: and I think it's because the Panthers were just on
Speaker 1: national television got wiped out. But that was a flukey game.
Speaker 1: Jones Arvin Jones is a knee injury, not practicing this week.
Speaker 1: Darius like coming back from a knee injury. They missed
Speaker 1: him terribly last week, and I know that Stafford isn't
Speaker 1: getting much help, but he's also walking into some sex
Speaker 1: now too, holding the ball too long and just walking
Speaker 1: right into the sec whatever Jim Bob Cootter was doing
Speaker 1: that was getting people excited. J no longer not out.
Speaker 1: Don't you think make rying up he was. I feel
Speaker 1: like the other the new coach probably coerced him into
Speaker 1: running something a little bit different this year. Maybe I
Speaker 1: don't know, but it's it's not working. This has all
Speaker 1: the makings, and again I would lock this up, but
Speaker 1: I don't think I could look in the mirror of
Speaker 1: a very good Panthers team that got embarrassed on national
Speaker 1: television is now going to take it out on an
Speaker 1: inferior team, so it doesn't matter where they're being playing.
Speaker 1: I think this is a a two to three score
Speaker 1: uh weas in this game, it's a total bounce Baker,
Speaker 1: bring the rain. The Lions are a totally fork able
Speaker 1: bit of nonsense at this point. But the only thing
Speaker 1: is I don't just look at the Panthers and give
Speaker 1: them a total mulligan against For that Steelers game, they
Speaker 1: could not get to Big Ben. He was perfection. He
Speaker 1: like the the entire that's the best the Steelers have
Speaker 1: looked in a long time. And this Panther's defense, which
Speaker 1: you know if you don't watch them much you just
Speaker 1: assume it's the same Panthers defense, not at all. Remember
Speaker 1: they gave a lot of grief when they weren't in
Speaker 1: the top ten defensive lines back in the summer. I
Speaker 1: remember Panthers fans, players, coaches that got at me after that.
Speaker 1: Where you at? Now you're twenty four in efficiency football outsiders,
Speaker 1: That's where they're at. Let's move on the Tennessee Tytoons
Speaker 1: riding a two game winning streak and they just spanked
Speaker 1: the defending conference champion, uh Patriots. Uh. And now here's
Speaker 1: another challenge. They got to go to Indianapolis to face
Speaker 1: the Colts team that is playing extremely well. Uh. Mark
Speaker 1: Sessler with a quarterback who's you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: West You you had him high in your list number one,
Speaker 1: I believe comeback player of the Year rank? Yes? Uh?
Speaker 1: What about m v P? I mean, is he playing
Speaker 1: at this level? This? Now? We talked about you guys
Speaker 1: always asked me ttoons Tytoons? Should I be calling them Titans?
Speaker 1: I like this. You you run a three game winning
Speaker 1: streak together, and you take down Andrew Luck, who's playing
Speaker 1: at the height of his powers. Right now, I'll give
Speaker 1: you some respect. On Sunday, night go through it. You're
Speaker 1: you need that to happen, that that would that would
Speaker 1: formerly flip the switch here, Okay, that makes this game
Speaker 1: more interesting to me. I want to see it happen.
Speaker 1: This is the West game of the week. This is
Speaker 1: this is a different kind of West of this this game.
Speaker 1: But you got the team of West l the Colts
Speaker 1: and you know the Titans who have been you know,
Speaker 1: been on most of the time for the past three
Speaker 1: or four years. If you are, let me unlike Todd
Speaker 1: Bowls in New York, and there's others to these defensive
Speaker 1: minded coaches who are their defense aren't aren't aren't even
Speaker 1: very good. Mike Rabel has the number one scoring defense,
Speaker 1: and the last forty seven of forty eight teams to
Speaker 1: finish with the number one scoring defense made the playoffs.
Speaker 1: So if they hang around with that, they'd either be
Speaker 1: the second team to not do that, which would be
Speaker 1: a high embarrassment, or they would he would have it
Speaker 1: as first season the only other team that did that.
Speaker 1: They have never left their homes after it's just too much.
Speaker 1: Seventy seven Falcons. They've been in their house for forty something.
Speaker 1: It is a great test because they they're coaching staff
Speaker 1: really did do the job against the Patriots that they
Speaker 1: scrambled Brady's brains and more than I think they really
Speaker 1: did anything physically. And that's the interesting thing about it Titans.
Speaker 1: They don't have a lot of guys having standout years.
Speaker 1: I think the secondary is playing well. Dorry Jackson, Kevin
Speaker 1: Buyer and everything can of car The secondary is very
Speaker 1: solid other than Malcolm Butler struggles. But can they get
Speaker 1: the Colts offense out of rhythm because if there was
Speaker 1: like a a metric for rhythm, like tempo, that the
Speaker 1: Colts to me are the number one team in the
Speaker 1: league in terms of he gets Luck gets to the
Speaker 1: back of his drop and he throws the ball. He
Speaker 1: I think they lead the league in that they have
Speaker 1: such tempo. Guys are open, so it's it's not the
Speaker 1: offensive line. I don't think that's changed as much as
Speaker 1: He's get the balls out so quickly to wide open guys.
Speaker 1: And they do have the fastest pace in the league.
Speaker 1: There is a stat for that. So they are playing
Speaker 1: fast and defenses don't know what to do. This is
Speaker 1: what we've waited for for like the first time, first
Speaker 1: time in Earth history, Andrew Luck is protected well, and
Speaker 1: that's been that's been the issue all along. I think
Speaker 1: that kind of snuck up on everybody a little bit.
Speaker 1: The Colts now being held as having the best offensive
Speaker 1: line potentially in football. I don't feel like people were
Speaker 1: talking about that in August or the summer that that
Speaker 1: it's solved, and so it shows. It goes to show
Speaker 1: you how quickly those coaching can come together and how quickly,
Speaker 1: like Dallas, it can fall apart. But it's so vital
Speaker 1: to the game. Remember the that series I had to
Speaker 1: write where I had to pitch why every team in
Speaker 1: the league would make the playoffs, and I wrote the
Speaker 1: Colts one and talked about some of the offensive line
Speaker 1: rebuilding and just got lashed on Twitter. I'm gonna find
Speaker 1: those tweets. I'm gonna start responding to those people angrily
Speaker 1: the minute. The shows your way of saying that you
Speaker 1: knew the Colts offensive line was going to turn it around.
Speaker 1: I mean, I had to argue that every team would
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. So there's a lot I don't know.
Speaker 1: Luck is helping them out too, because he's a smarter
Speaker 1: I think he came back from this injury almost like
Speaker 1: I wrote about this in the QUB Index this week.
Speaker 1: It's almost like he thought about what type of quarterback
Speaker 1: he wanted to be when he came back from being
Speaker 1: on the sidelines for two years, and he's changed the
Speaker 1: type of quarterback he's He does not hold the ball
Speaker 1: that long, he does not use his legs nearly as much,
Speaker 1: but when he does, he moves in the pocket like
Speaker 1: he's young. Philip Rivers and Titoons fans better than that. Yes,
Speaker 1: Tytoons fans noticed that. Um so, I won't be labor it.
Speaker 1: But Andrew Luck is nine and oh in his career
Speaker 1: against the Tennessee Football Club, so they're trying to break
Speaker 1: some history there, and um let's move on the Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: Steelers six two and one. Not many teams of football
Speaker 1: are playing as well as this UH ball club right
Speaker 1: now that doesn't have Levy on bell. They will not
Speaker 1: have Levy on bell, But who cares because they're doing
Speaker 1: it all anyway. And now they travel to Jacksonville and
Speaker 1: they're catching a Jacksonville team west that I would say, oh,
Speaker 1: they're dangerous, and they they gotta say the season, but
Speaker 1: I don't think that's that matters anymore. I think they've
Speaker 1: lost too many games. They're now three and six, They've
Speaker 1: lost six of seven, and it's at the point where
Speaker 1: Steelers get to beat up on maybe a dead team. Here.
Speaker 1: These two teams are going full speed in such drastic
Speaker 1: different directions that nobody even is talking about the fact
Speaker 1: that the Jaguars owned the Steelers last year. Their coaches
Speaker 1: had the Steelers coaching staffs number in those matchups. And
Speaker 1: it doesn't even matter because the Jags are not nearly
Speaker 1: as physically tough this year as they were last year.
Speaker 1: For Net came back and was the offensive focal point
Speaker 1: last week average two point two yards per carry behind
Speaker 1: an offensive line with a third string tackle, and now
Speaker 1: they're starting center is out for the season, and they
Speaker 1: have so many coverage busts on defense. I just don't
Speaker 1: think this is nearly the same Jaguars team that gave
Speaker 1: the Steelers all they can handle in more last year.
Speaker 1: It was telling to me that for Nette was not
Speaker 1: in the game when they were trying to win it.
Speaker 1: It was t J. Yelden and even Carlos Hade a
Speaker 1: little bit. And I know they're playing in hurry up
Speaker 1: at the end of the game, but Yelden was the
Speaker 1: one making some players on that drive that had them
Speaker 1: set up with pretty good position to either beat the
Speaker 1: Cults are at very least send it to overtime, if
Speaker 1: not for a nice play by Kennymore. But you mentioned
Speaker 1: the miscommunication when they really missed a j boy. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's practicing the is practicing. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's the missing piece. But they've had so
Speaker 1: many busts. Jalen Ramsey isn't playing nearly as well. It
Speaker 1: just feels like maybe because he's such a talented, outstanding player,
Speaker 1: that just the it's just been such a lost season.
Speaker 1: It seems like Jackson all the frustration probably weighing down
Speaker 1: the eyes. This is how bad they've been in these
Speaker 1: last five games, all losses. They're giving up almost twenty
Speaker 1: nine points a game. This is a historically, of course,
Speaker 1: historically great defense last year, almost twenty nine points a game.
Speaker 1: They're only scoring four teens. So they're getting beat and
Speaker 1: beat soundly on a near weekly basis. You don't see
Speaker 1: like the identity of a team with her up and
Speaker 1: vanished this quickly. It happened so rapidly. There's just seems
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of infighting it's a young team
Speaker 1: and when things go wrong sometimes this is what you get.
Speaker 1: And on the opposite side, not to go back to
Speaker 1: that Steelers Panthers game, but the Steelers scored on seven
Speaker 1: of their first day possessions. They looked awesome doing it.
Speaker 1: It's not just the star players. So guys like Vance
Speaker 1: McDonald are making plays. They're getting good tight end work
Speaker 1: like they can protecting Big Ben so well. I just
Speaker 1: I don't know that they're peaking at the right time.
Speaker 1: And the Jaguars are absolutely spiraling into Speaking of Big Ben,
Speaker 1: uh Mark and I handled the recap last year. We
Speaker 1: know the scientists have the opportunity. I'd like to hear
Speaker 1: some c poems about Ben Roethlisberger because the guy was
Speaker 1: absolutely brilliant last week and he's playing He's not gonna
Speaker 1: win VP. He never seems to be in that conversation,
Speaker 1: but he's playing Outstanley Well right now, Well, do you
Speaker 1: do you picture the Steelers offense is unstoppable last week? Quite?
Speaker 1: I feel like we picture the Saints, Chiefs and Rams
Speaker 1: is unstoppable. And those are the only three offenses in
Speaker 1: the league averaging more points per game than the Steelers.
Speaker 1: I think that we can. It's easy to clump this
Speaker 1: like the Steelers have been doing this for a long time,
Speaker 1: so it's not new. It is new from the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: it is relatively new from the Rams, and they had it.
Speaker 1: They had a first impressions means so much, and they
Speaker 1: had a bad first quarter of the season. I think
Speaker 1: if if I was doing those power rankings, to me,
Speaker 1: they are right there with the Saints as the best
Speaker 1: team in the league right now, and I think they
Speaker 1: would be number two to me because kind of the
Speaker 1: reason why I stuck with the Eagles for much of
Speaker 1: last year. They were the answer if you ask like
Speaker 1: who who has the best combination of offensive line defensive line?
Speaker 1: Who just has the best line play in the NFL?
Speaker 1: And I think the Steelers are the answer to that
Speaker 1: this year in terms of balt side to the ball.
Speaker 1: They're just kind of man handling teams week after week.
Speaker 1: I think the Saints are in that discussion, but the Steeler.
Speaker 1: The one disagreement I've had with PFF this year the
Speaker 1: most has been on Ben Roethlisberger's grade. I think he's
Speaker 1: been playing well for most of the season and they
Speaker 1: have him as a blow average quarterback. Is he getting
Speaker 1: killed because of like you know, in the opener he
Speaker 1: had five turnovers. He had a couple of games where
Speaker 1: he's turning the ball over. But then that is big bend.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I think, well, he's slimmer than he's been. I
Speaker 1: think he's more athletic than he was last year, and
Speaker 1: I think he's playing well maybe to tend in QB index.
Speaker 1: So I know you trust that. I do trust the QB.
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Speaker 1: This week the three and six Tampa Bay Buccaneers last
Speaker 1: place in the NFC South. They head to the meadow
Speaker 1: Lands two and seven there in last place in NFC East,
Speaker 1: but they're coming off a nice little comeback win. Uh.
Speaker 1: So here's a lollip up. Look it up, Let it up,
Speaker 1: Greg got weird? Is a battle of qbs on the
Speaker 1: hot seat? I guess Ryan Fitzpatrick's on the hot seat.
Speaker 1: I don't even know at this I don't It's like
Speaker 1: no one in Tampa Eli Manning isn't really either someone
Speaker 1: behind him. It's they have that. They have that felon
Speaker 1: It is a moment. It is a moment, though. Jason
Speaker 1: Light who seems like Felonious activity a perfectly nice guy.
Speaker 1: You saw him on Hard Knocks. He's worked hard to
Speaker 1: get to where he is. He has to be wondering
Speaker 1: in his office alone during these weeks, how did I
Speaker 1: get here with a three and seven team starring starting
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick at quarterback? Not the guy took number one overall,
Speaker 1: which isn't good really on either side of the ball
Speaker 1: at this point, and I'm just waiting for this season
Speaker 1: to end. I mean, it's the worst of all possible
Speaker 1: counter scenarios. Counterpoint he knows, he's saying, I can't believe
Speaker 1: this is how it turned out. But there were people
Speaker 1: that were saying when he made that draft pick, maybe
Speaker 1: you shouldn't take this guy because he might bang you
Speaker 1: in the end, and that is looking like what's gonna happen? Sure,
Speaker 1: And I also think Dirk Cutter and we we've we've
Speaker 1: heard him here, you know, made the situation worse. Now,
Speaker 1: if Ryan Fitzpatrick had just kind of played out and
Speaker 1: returned back to his level, which I think we can
Speaker 1: agree he has over the last two weeks, then you
Speaker 1: would have switched to Jamison. You would have just watched
Speaker 1: him play and whatever at least you're seeing Jamison was
Speaker 1: to play. Now you're stuck in this weird in between.
Speaker 1: It's like, why why are they even playing anymore? My
Speaker 1: game notes from last week, almost every sentence starts with
Speaker 1: fits back in red zone, fits back in red zone,
Speaker 1: back in red zone. Why isn't Alex Smith in the
Speaker 1: red zone. Why isn't Alex Smith in the red zone?
Speaker 1: Why isn't Alex Smith? I mean, this was one of
Speaker 1: the luckiest wins for the Redskins and one of the
Speaker 1: unluckiest for the Bucks. That said, I totally agree, it's
Speaker 1: a wasted season in Tampa, and you have to wonder
Speaker 1: what's going on there. It's directionless. They had five hundred
Speaker 1: yards of offense, but they had two picks, two lost fumbles,
Speaker 1: missfield goals. I mean it was You're not gonna get
Speaker 1: that every week no matter what happens. They although they
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston in four turnover games where they fall behind, right,
Speaker 1: but it's not Ryan just Ryan Fitzpatrick. It's also Jamis
Speaker 1: Winston was doing. I'm not saying it would be any better.
Speaker 1: I just bad football amplified by bad luck. If they don't,
Speaker 1: if they know they're ready to move on from Jamis Winston,
Speaker 1: which we don't know whether that's the case, then keep
Speaker 1: him on the bench. But if you're kind of on
Speaker 1: the fence as an organization, put him back in at
Speaker 1: a certain point. That's my view pointed this one. It
Speaker 1: may not be I got the reason why he's bench
Speaker 1: because Fitzpatrick probably never should have been taken out. But
Speaker 1: if they're gonna keep losing and Fitzpatrick's gonna throw for
Speaker 1: four yards, but the team's losing. Uh. If you want
Speaker 1: to just see where's Winston ad what, they probably see
Speaker 1: where he's gonna be at as you head into the
Speaker 1: off season at a certain point. Fitzpatrick obviously isn't the answer.
Speaker 1: They probably will at some point. Let's give a lollipop,
Speaker 1: by the way for hitting him out to Odell Beckham.
Speaker 1: We never really talked about Odell Beckham anymore, Right, Well,
Speaker 1: he gets talked about plenty having a great season, not
Speaker 1: on this show this year, not on the good point
Speaker 1: playing like saying, it's good to just say he's back
Speaker 1: from that injury and he's playing great. He's incredible and
Speaker 1: he Bakewon Barkley on pace for two thousand yards, which
Speaker 1: is great for a guy playing behind a terrible old
Speaker 1: line and doesn't always hit the right hole. That's true
Speaker 1: that the Giants, I mean to me, they are the
Speaker 1: most talented skill position to win team I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: Did there the most talented skill position to win team
Speaker 1: you've ever seen? They are so much more talented than
Speaker 1: the record. Let's move on the Houston Texans. I love
Speaker 1: this Texans team. The Jets are dead to me. You
Speaker 1: really wanted to move on from that game. There was
Speaker 1: a lot more to on pack between those two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a great week. You got the Jets on by,
Speaker 1: you got the Bills on by, you got the Dolphins
Speaker 1: on I mean especially this, and you get the forty
Speaker 1: niners out of the mix. That's nice. Uh, this is
Speaker 1: a nice, peaceful football Sunday coming up for the old
Speaker 1: juser and the team that he has gravitated towards. He
Speaker 1: being me is happening in this room. Who have one
Speaker 1: six in a row, and I'll forget about it. I'm
Speaker 1: not even gonna try to build this up. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: start riding the Texans. I'm locking them up. They're going
Speaker 1: to FedEx Field to face the first place Redskins team.
Speaker 1: But I don't I don't believe in the Skins. I
Speaker 1: don't even if they were healthy, I don't really necessarily
Speaker 1: believe in the Skins. Certainly think they're vulnerable and could
Speaker 1: be beaten in their own building, a building where nobody
Speaker 1: seems to even cheer for them. That's a that's a
Speaker 1: subplot that's going on right now for them. Um So
Speaker 1: I'll throw it to you to get it started here, Mark,
Speaker 1: But I just want to throw it out there that
Speaker 1: the Texans, as long as they keep winning, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: keep riding them. I think the thing that I'd say
Speaker 1: is encouraging for the Redskins because we could go here
Speaker 1: someone how massively injured a banged up they were on
Speaker 1: the offensive line that it didn't turn into a total
Speaker 1: disaster in that game. I think Alex Smith was sacked
Speaker 1: twice and they were able to run the ball, and
Speaker 1: so you kept some you know, you kept it together
Speaker 1: to some degree on offense. But now, like obviously the
Speaker 1: situation is J J. Watt, Jadeveon Clowney and really that
Speaker 1: to me is the matchup. But they've got to find
Speaker 1: a way to keep a lid on what Houston can
Speaker 1: do on defense against them. I don't see this as
Speaker 1: a runaway scenario for the for the Texans at all.
Speaker 1: The day. This this is a you can look yourself
Speaker 1: in the mirror on this loft. Yeah. I just I
Speaker 1: like the Texans. They've shown that they can win close games.
Speaker 1: They've blown out some teams. They're just in a good
Speaker 1: spot right now coming off of buy so they're gonna
Speaker 1: be what I love about the But the opportunity that
Speaker 1: Washington has is You've got Dallas on the road in Atlanta,
Speaker 1: you have Philly, which is very close to death. If
Speaker 1: they cannot beat the Saints, you have a chance to
Speaker 1: go up by three games in the NFC East. If
Speaker 1: those two teams don't pull it off. Can you picture
Speaker 1: the Redskins at seven and three. That's the other reason
Speaker 1: I just don't see it. I hear you, but I mean, well,
Speaker 1: this would be the best team Houston has beaten a
Speaker 1: whole year. Mhm. They're two most impressive wins are the
Speaker 1: Colts and Cowboys, and they didn't even play well in
Speaker 1: the Cowboys game. They yeah, they've won, They've won a
Speaker 1: lot of close games. They're they have great players, so
Speaker 1: that's kind of covered up, including that the offense isn't
Speaker 1: that great. Kareem Jackson, who is killing it at cornerback
Speaker 1: this year and have one of the hardest hitting cornerback
Speaker 1: games I've seen in years against the Broncos, Lamar Miller,
Speaker 1: I got excited. No, no, no no, no, honey, Badgers playing
Speaker 1: playing well. Deandrew Hopkins is playing so well that in
Speaker 1: that Broncos game. I mean, when they're at third and one,
Speaker 1: they're not thinking about Lamar Miller they're thinking the percentage
Speaker 1: play is going to DeAndre Hopkins on Chris Harris, who
Speaker 1: is one of the best cornerbacks in the league. And
Speaker 1: you know what, they're right. He wins that matchup like
Speaker 1: he's doing whatever they need him to do, which is
Speaker 1: now kind of moved moved the chains. I have two
Speaker 1: predictions for you real quickly. Number One, this will be
Speaker 1: the game where the lead change. This stat that's starting
Speaker 1: to become tedious is over. Well, this is the one.
Speaker 1: If they get through this game without a lead change,
Speaker 1: it sets the all time record. It's not happening. In
Speaker 1: Number two, the the injury that is going to Hunt
Speaker 1: Washington in this game is Dustin Hopkins kicker still dealing
Speaker 1: with a groin injury. They're bringing in Jobra and he's
Speaker 1: off the street as potential emote emergency scenario that that
Speaker 1: these these were Redskins are in these tight games all
Speaker 1: the time. Please, here's something that says it all about
Speaker 1: this Redskins offense with Alex Smith, who um I had
Speaker 1: high hopes on the Skin's offense. I thought they wouldn't
Speaker 1: skip a beat with him because I got sucked in
Speaker 1: by Smith's performance for most of the last year in
Speaker 1: Kansas City. But here you go from next gen stats.
Speaker 1: Alex Smith on twenty five plus yard air yard passes.
Speaker 1: Last year he had twenty one completions, over completion percentage
Speaker 1: a thousand yards, ten touchdowns, no picks, one s pass
Speaker 1: ready this year with the Redskins, and of course they're
Speaker 1: the weapons are different, it's a different team and all that,
Speaker 1: but this is striking four completions, completion percentage a hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy one yards, one touchdown, one interception, and is
Speaker 1: pass rading sixty two. That element of Alex Smith that
Speaker 1: was made him so exciting for a period last year
Speaker 1: is gone, and it makes them a very boring offense.
Speaker 1: It's not coming back. He has to load up before
Speaker 1: he before he throws anything outside. Now they've they've been injured,
Speaker 1: but they their personnel is is not great. Did the
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks here? I remember Deshaun Watson got some comparisons
Speaker 1: to Alex Smith in the build up to the drive,
Speaker 1: and I can still kind of see that. I feel
Speaker 1: like Deshaun Watson is a rich Man's younger Alex Smith.
Speaker 1: I feel very careful quarterback. He's very good, kind of
Speaker 1: bailing out after his first reads taken away and then
Speaker 1: making it play anyways, which is Alex Smith wasn't the
Speaker 1: whole thing on him that he had all these would
Speaker 1: be interceptions last year. This year, I would say he's
Speaker 1: played very safely, not not a lot of not a
Speaker 1: lot of dazzle to his game this year, but he's
Speaker 1: he's made good decisions. Quickly, Let's take a check in
Speaker 1: with the Oakland Raiders, riding a five game losing streak
Speaker 1: there one and eight. They travel to the Farm to
Speaker 1: face the Cardinals two and seven, So this is a
Speaker 1: real stinker three and fifteen combined record. West. While we're here,
Speaker 1: let me just ask you your thoughts so far on
Speaker 1: Josh Road. But I don't really have any. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's he's been blah. The Cardinals offense is terrible. Their
Speaker 1: offensive line is one of the worst in the league.
Speaker 1: They don't have a running game. It's almost impossible to
Speaker 1: even grade Josh Rosen this year in complete. Say yes,
Speaker 1: I would say incomplete that he's made enough throw impressive
Speaker 1: throws that that just kind of keeps you going, that
Speaker 1: you're excited to see some really nice throws with accuracy
Speaker 1: and timing that are not easy throws. So he's he's
Speaker 1: mixed in a few of those per week, and other
Speaker 1: than that, I would agree with it. I would say
Speaker 1: that he is like Trabinsky last year in golf the
Speaker 1: year before. You can't evaluate him because you need a
Speaker 1: new coach or someone to come in and rewire the
Speaker 1: whole thing. Get an offensive line, get a running game,
Speaker 1: get receivers. He hasn't. He has no support, So this
Speaker 1: would be a good week for him to make some noise.
Speaker 1: It's also a good week for Chandler Jones to challenge
Speaker 1: the single game sack record against Colton Miller, who can't
Speaker 1: block anyone, and Chandler Jones do droid Eric Fisher last week.
Speaker 1: Tayler Jones is would be the first. Maybe he has
Speaker 1: a first team All Pro Anyways, he's playing at that
Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys who are up there. One
Speaker 1: of the only people that's really gotten into the nest
Speaker 1: of Patrick Mahomes like all season long. Oh he was, yeah,
Speaker 1: the first quarter. He was in Mahome's grill the whole time.
Speaker 1: Probably more about this nest. I don't know. The minute
Speaker 1: I said that, I thought, what am I talking to him?
Speaker 1: You know what? We we are? We the amount of
Speaker 1: talking over the course of a week in this regular season.
Speaker 1: I am so tired of hearing myself say anything at all.
Speaker 1: The Denver Broncos are three and the touch Mark don't know.
Speaker 1: I do because I had no idea what it means.
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean anything like if you would have said
Speaker 1: Rosen in the nest, because then you have the Cardinals
Speaker 1: and you can fly with that a little bit. I
Speaker 1: try to stay away from like the overt bird at
Speaker 1: or like animal analogy, or jets flying into Miami. But
Speaker 1: there's a lot of like, Okay, this week, Raider's head
Speaker 1: to the desert. It's always the desert annoys me. That
Speaker 1: is very stupid. Why do you hate the desert? Well,
Speaker 1: it's just like the cardinals always you just here. It's
Speaker 1: Arizona over It acts like there's no civilization there. There
Speaker 1: are houses. Have you ever lived I lived in Phoenix
Speaker 1: for a year. It was an awful place. And it's
Speaker 1: not a desert. It's it is technically that's the land.
Speaker 1: That's the type of geographical land it is. But it's
Speaker 1: just houses and apartment buildings and strip malls. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: start calling it the road Runner Haven. The six seasons
Speaker 1: say that, and so you're still uncovering new ground. You
Speaker 1: just gotta keep talking and you'll find no. I am
Speaker 1: we are almost done. Listeners in the Phoenix, Arizona area,
Speaker 1: we apologize three and six. The Denver Broncos another team
Speaker 1: in a free fall. Seems like a lot of teams
Speaker 1: are just losing on a weekly basis right now in
Speaker 1: the NFL. The Broncos are one. If they have any chance,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to win out or come close to it. Uh.
Speaker 1: First test is a tough one. The l A Chargers,
Speaker 1: a team that's gone in the opposite direction here Greg,
Speaker 1: they've won sixth straight and you can put it in
Speaker 1: the book. Another rainmaker, Greg, No, if anything, sure why
Speaker 1: it was supposed to just be one a week. If anything,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put it on the the the old Broncos
Speaker 1: to keep this game close. Wake up, Tam Posey. So
Speaker 1: it's a rainmaker. Interesting for the for the Broncos to
Speaker 1: The Chargers are being viewed, and they are. It's a
Speaker 1: problematic thing. I think coming back home, they haven't played
Speaker 1: and stuff up for a while. I feel like they're
Speaker 1: like I think so, I think they're better on the
Speaker 1: I they're better on the road because the Broncos are
Speaker 1: gonna come. The Broncos fans are gonna fill up that stadium.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be depressing and it's going to be annoying.
Speaker 1: And then I think the Broncos. I wouldn't say they're misunderstood,
Speaker 1: but they've been a little unlucky. I don't think they're
Speaker 1: as bad as the record, and I definitely don't think
Speaker 1: CA no one understands me Broncos. I don't think case
Speaker 1: Keendom has played nearly as bad as kind of the
Speaker 1: the national view over the last month, he has looked
Speaker 1: exactly like you would have accepted expected case Keendom to
Speaker 1: be over last one. They're a fine team. Their defense
Speaker 1: is fine. They played the Chiefs tough a couple of times.
Speaker 1: What about their coaches? Suaches are bad and that's how
Speaker 1: they lose these super close games. But there's not a
Speaker 1: lot separating a team like the Texans and the Broncos.
Speaker 1: This is a test for the Chargers. Dec remember last
Speaker 1: number nine in football outsiders, You know, I get it,
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying they're not a terrible three and
Speaker 1: six team. There's some terrible ones out there. Remember last
Speaker 1: year when the Chargers turned their season around and reeled
Speaker 1: off like seven straight wins from this point on their
Speaker 1: thirtee over there, it was when Denzel Peram and came
Speaker 1: back and fixed their run defense, and he just got
Speaker 1: hurt out for the year. The Charges are one of
Speaker 1: the best running teams in the NFL. That's a matchup
Speaker 1: to watch, uh playing, Well, there's another guy. These guys here. No,
Speaker 1: I know exactly what you're saying. I get it, but
Speaker 1: it's a teams that never find a way to win.
Speaker 1: They're just bad team. So I could see that happening.
Speaker 1: Close loss for the bron We should mention that Joey
Speaker 1: Bose is practicing again and there's talk that he might
Speaker 1: make his debut this week. You know what, they should
Speaker 1: be careful with him. I agree. You have two more
Speaker 1: cupcakes here before you get to the big one week
Speaker 1: thirteen at Pittsburgh's say, and you hold him up to them, Man,
Speaker 1: we don't. We also have no idea what's happening. I mean,
Speaker 1: Greg's telling us is not a cupcake. The Broncos are
Speaker 1: not a cupcake. I don't think it's a cupcake. I
Speaker 1: don't think they're I don't think they're like playing the Raiders.
Speaker 1: You know, it's fun. I don't either in the and
Speaker 1: the but the Charger's offense has been a little sporadic.
Speaker 1: I would say over the last three or four week
Speaker 1: I think the defense has played much better. They haven't
Speaker 1: played great competition. But if one thing though, like the
Speaker 1: idea that you're coming home to your home stadium, and
Speaker 1: that's a disadvantage where you were a couple of years
Speaker 1: away from being put in a state of the yard,
Speaker 1: much bigger stadium, and what are you gonna visiting fans
Speaker 1: at that point. It's a total disaster. Don't field advantage.
Speaker 1: That's true, But that's it's not all about the out
Speaker 1: in the stadium. It's about the being a creature or
Speaker 1: covered creatures or whatever you call it, where you you
Speaker 1: get to sleep in your own bed and you're practicing
Speaker 1: your facility. You're not going on an airplane and staying
Speaker 1: at a hotel. They have all those other things that
Speaker 1: are a positive. It's just the actual gaming. It's a problem.
Speaker 1: It's such a problem. Look at the ratings in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: The Chargers do not rate like a local team would rate.
Speaker 1: It's pretty different between them and the Rams. And then
Speaker 1: even more telling to me is you look in San
Speaker 1: Diego where the Chargers still outrage everything else and it's
Speaker 1: not at the levels they were when they were in
Speaker 1: San Diego, but they have this huge fan base in
Speaker 1: San Diego still that's making them the number one game
Speaker 1: every week. Even if it's a some lousy charge them back,
Speaker 1: it's a bad idea. Send them back, all right, come
Speaker 1: to London. Three more games. Don't you think San Diego
Speaker 1: deserves him? And we love our fans in London. Figure
Speaker 1: out the stadium situation. Because we saw a YouTube concert
Speaker 1: at the old stadium, Absolute mass. I was under the
Speaker 1: impression that bridge was broken. But I'd be in favor
Speaker 1: of sending them back to San Diego. But yeah, does
Speaker 1: deserve a team as well. That would be fun. All right,
Speaker 1: three more games, good ones. Here we go Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 1: They need to win. They need to win in the
Speaker 1: worst way. What a loss. And sometimes you look at
Speaker 1: the schedule and it's in a vacuum and you just say, oh,
Speaker 1: bad loss to the Cowboys at home. But then you
Speaker 1: don't realize the way they make these schedules, Greg is
Speaker 1: that they here's a home game that you should win,
Speaker 1: and we will not take pity on you because the
Speaker 1: next week we're gonna send you to a potential slaughter. Well,
Speaker 1: now you've gotta go to the freaking super Dome, Eagles.
Speaker 1: You want to go back to the playoffs, you want
Speaker 1: to go back to the super Bowl. You gotta find
Speaker 1: out a way to beat the Saints, who are playing
Speaker 1: as well as anyone in football. That's what you think
Speaker 1: the schedule makers were thinking as they were drawing it up.
Speaker 1: That's how they do it. Look at these schedules they
Speaker 1: get sometimes will give teams or it doesn't always work
Speaker 1: out this way, they'll say, we're gonna give you the
Speaker 1: Falcons are a perfect example. Falcons. We're gonna give you
Speaker 1: the Browns. Make sure you win this game, because we
Speaker 1: won't feel pity on you. The next week. We gonna
Speaker 1: make you have to a game that you could lose.
Speaker 1: That's how seasons go awry when you don't win the
Speaker 1: games you're supposed to. What's gonna get tougher because with
Speaker 1: I think Ronald Darby was losing Ronald Darby feels like
Speaker 1: the moment, you know, for the season, which we haven't
Speaker 1: really talked about here. It feels like the moment where
Speaker 1: you're starting to lose hope that the defense can can
Speaker 1: survive because he was playing great and they're awfully thin
Speaker 1: in the secondary, especially trying to face the Saints. Is
Speaker 1: I would say the other person that they miss dearly
Speaker 1: is Frank Reich. There is something about this offense that
Speaker 1: reminds me more of the Eagles from two years ago
Speaker 1: than last year. Don't tell Doc Peterson that he seems
Speaker 1: like he's getting a little he doesn't like he doesn't
Speaker 1: like this narrative. I mean they I think it's tough
Speaker 1: when you when you have at trition and the coaching
Speaker 1: staff over and over called Peterson called the plays. Last year,
Speaker 1: he called the plays. Reich made the game plans. And
Speaker 1: I think I think that the super Bowl. One of
Speaker 1: the huge themes from being at Super Bowl Week was
Speaker 1: the praise heaped on Frank Ripe from all d actions
Speaker 1: over and over. And you see it with the cults.
Speaker 1: I mean we're seeing it week to week with the
Speaker 1: cults now that they, you know, got their act together.
Speaker 1: I look at this Eagles team and I just feel
Speaker 1: like that there are a couple of days away from
Speaker 1: being deep six for good you're not still. I don't
Speaker 1: think you're gonna walk in and beat the Saints. This
Speaker 1: is a lopsided matchup. The Eagles have the toughest remaining
Speaker 1: schedule starting with this one, their secondaries falling apart. Teams
Speaker 1: are picking on result. Douglas, they're leading Russia, has two
Speaker 1: d and sixty one yards. The Saints have the number
Speaker 1: one run defense in the NFL, which I think with
Speaker 1: shocks some people. It's not just their offense that's on
Speaker 1: pace to have more points than any but the two
Speaker 1: thousand seven Patriots and two thousand thirteen Broncos. This is
Speaker 1: the best team in the NFL. Doesn't and doesn't feel
Speaker 1: on the other side, doesn't it feel like the Eagles
Speaker 1: have just been kind of like farting around this year.
Speaker 1: They're both starting around. They've never been able to sustain
Speaker 1: any momentum the scientific that's exactly what they've been like,
Speaker 1: getting injured players back, and then when they do more
Speaker 1: injuries almost feels like they're like, we'll be all right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna turn it on, we're gonna turn it and
Speaker 1: things are okay, and now all of a sudden you
Speaker 1: look up there four and five and they got to
Speaker 1: go to the super dumb and I don't like their
Speaker 1: chances either. No, I mean this, This Saints team is
Speaker 1: so fun to watch. I mean, Michael Thomas is so
Speaker 1: fun to watch. His catch percentage is one of the
Speaker 1: most amazing set because he's is one of the most
Speaker 1: amazing stats in sports. Chimera to me is if I
Speaker 1: could choose one running back, I would take him. And
Speaker 1: you don't even need him all the time. Taysom Hill
Speaker 1: is important. And then last week they're breaking out guys
Speaker 1: Dan Keith, Kirkwood and Dan Arnold. They took Dan Arnold
Speaker 1: out of the Wonder Years and and they're catching pass like,
Speaker 1: who are they heard of these guys and they're making plays.
Speaker 1: I don't like the correlated the name of the dad's
Speaker 1: his real name with his last name on the show
Speaker 1: Dan Gloria and uh Son was Kirkwood Arnold. Send them
Speaker 1: back to the fifth. Losing Tarrant Armstead is an issue,
Speaker 1: not story about the sixties. Yeah, against this defensive line,
Speaker 1: that's an issue. But I mean, what's going to stop
Speaker 1: them from scoring thirty or forty? This nothing? They held
Speaker 1: the Bengals to twenty minutes of possession last week and
Speaker 1: that game was over ten minutes I was covering. I
Speaker 1: stopped watching it at halftime. They're they're the one team.
Speaker 1: A lot of defenses and the Cults are like this,
Speaker 1: A lot of defenses that aren't that good are just
Speaker 1: kind of like, Okay, beat us with a fifteen play drive.
Speaker 1: We figure you'll make a mistake at some point. And
Speaker 1: but then the Saints, when teams do that to them,
Speaker 1: they just do fifteen play drives. I have to apologize
Speaker 1: to Chiefs fans because right now, in my mind, there
Speaker 1: is no m VP discussion. It's Drew Brees. Wow. I
Speaker 1: think he separated himself over the last three or four games.
Speaker 1: I think it's a disc I think they're close. I
Speaker 1: take Breese to you know, twenty two of last week
Speaker 1: where we always say they can't play on the road
Speaker 1: on Awesome though, So I'm gonna give the edge to
Speaker 1: these guys. Get six more weeks right, the race could
Speaker 1: be a discussion can resurface. It's it's highly narrative driven,
Speaker 1: and this may be the last time you can give
Speaker 1: this award to Drew Brees, and you've got another fifteen
Speaker 1: years to give it to Patrick Mahomes. The Saints are
Speaker 1: getting better, like progressively better every week of the season.
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Speaker 1: a battle for first place in the NFC North. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: the Vikings five three and one. They've quietly won four
Speaker 1: of their last five. They got everything in order. And
Speaker 1: here's a test, because you're the Bears, a team that's
Speaker 1: really in addition to being a team of the around
Speaker 1: the NFL West have not been tested often. Here's a
Speaker 1: big one. You beat the Vikings at home. People are
Speaker 1: buying in, including this room. I think that's fair. This
Speaker 1: would be the best team the Bears have beaten all year.
Speaker 1: And I know that we chose well for Team of
Speaker 1: a t L because I want to look at these
Speaker 1: these two teams. They're so evenly matched. The Vikings last
Speaker 1: four opponents have been held under three hundred yards by
Speaker 1: their defense, and there's still no defense in the NFL
Speaker 1: I trust more than the Bears. With a healthy Khalil Mack,
Speaker 1: Kyle Fuller is playing even better than last year. Bryce
Speaker 1: Callahan is a Pro Bowl slot receiver. This year, ro
Speaker 1: Kuwan Smith is coming on. We take a team Hicks
Speaker 1: for granted, This is to me that final score in
Speaker 1: the Lions game last week was not reflective of the
Speaker 1: beating this defense put on the lines Um. And then
Speaker 1: on the other hand, the Vikings have Davin Cook and
Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs finally healthy, but I think the Bears can
Speaker 1: pick on that offensive line had a clear Mac look
Speaker 1: last week. He had two sacks um. There was a
Speaker 1: viral video of him bull rushing Taylor Decker that got
Speaker 1: sent around, but I think it was a little unfair
Speaker 1: to Decker. It looked like his he kind of had
Speaker 1: his footstepped on by an offensive lineman, which made it
Speaker 1: easier for the bull rush to happen. But Mac was
Speaker 1: Mac was pretty act moving well, and we're starting to
Speaker 1: see week by week what Mitch Trabisky can be in
Speaker 1: this offense as well. I thought he had one of
Speaker 1: his best games, and this is the game I've waited
Speaker 1: for I have not. I probably if there's criticism about
Speaker 1: the team of a t L not latching on in
Speaker 1: this room the way that people would want, I definitely
Speaker 1: am at fault for that. If there's fault to be blamed,
Speaker 1: because I've not really bought in because they've not really
Speaker 1: had that signature win. They're gonna get it this week.
Speaker 1: I know it because I'm locking it up. Yes, I
Speaker 1: like that because I you say it, it isn't even matchup,
Speaker 1: and I've been waiting for this matchup. If you just
Speaker 1: kind of look at the numbers, it's not that even
Speaker 1: the Bears have been a better offense than the Vikings period.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's no question that the Bears have
Speaker 1: a better offense. They don't have a better quarterback necessarily,
Speaker 1: but they have a better offense. Oh, I don't try.
Speaker 1: I saw you finally given Trabinsky some love in your quarterback. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I don't And with Rabinsky and that I'm really
Speaker 1: looking forward to this game too, because I don't think
Speaker 1: we need to do a week by week appraisal. Like
Speaker 1: he is growing slowly, he's playing in a great offense.
Speaker 1: That was my only point all year. Let the guy
Speaker 1: grow under a good quarterback, and he's he's making some
Speaker 1: some plays on his own. But this is a great
Speaker 1: and a tough matchup for him. But I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: their offense definitely better and their defense is probably better
Speaker 1: too than there aren't you kind of hurting your own
Speaker 1: writing career here by saying we don't need to do
Speaker 1: week by week appraisals. I tried. That's why I would
Speaker 1: no longer rank it every every week one to thirty two.
Speaker 1: I try to do it every four weeks at the
Speaker 1: very least. But they don't like that, And I know
Speaker 1: some of the check back in four weeks for Greg's
Speaker 1: column are ordered a little bit because they've had a
Speaker 1: couple of really lopside of games of clothing that what
Speaker 1: is a six touchdown game for Drabinsky, but the friendly
Speaker 1: system for a lot of it's a lot of screen
Speaker 1: passes that go sixty yards and other places like that
Speaker 1: that the quarterback. Yeah, at the end of the day
Speaker 1: coming out of last season, which an incomplete grade you
Speaker 1: could give him last year. Uh, there was a lot
Speaker 1: of questions in August, is this guy gonna be able
Speaker 1: to help this team go to the next level? And
Speaker 1: it might be a quarterback friendly system, but this guy
Speaker 1: is on pace to like set all these Bears records,
Speaker 1: the the maturity and growth of Mitch Drabinsky, you cannot
Speaker 1: be going any better. Maybe it's not going at the
Speaker 1: level Jared Goff last year, which is what a lot
Speaker 1: of the comparisons, but maybe it's not that far off either.
Speaker 1: And he's bringing as much value as a runner as
Speaker 1: Cam Newton does, and he he is the most valuable
Speaker 1: runner in the league. So that's what I wrote about partly.
Speaker 1: I now out of quarterback. Out of quarterbacks, it's not
Speaker 1: even close according to QBR or P. And when you
Speaker 1: watch him, it makes sense. He plays a lot to
Speaker 1: me like like Russell Wilson did as a as a
Speaker 1: young player. Yeah, maybe doesn't quite have the deep ball
Speaker 1: like accuracy yet, but otherwise he plays a lot like
Speaker 1: I mean Russell Wilson. And now he's got Allen Robinson
Speaker 1: looking like Allan Robinson last week, which I thought was
Speaker 1: the first time huge develop It was about time for
Speaker 1: someone to come along and set Bears records at quarterbacks
Speaker 1: because they've had literally nothing at that position outside of
Speaker 1: their er Eric Cramer records. Look, this is the some
Speaker 1: of their quarterback records. In fact, most of them are
Speaker 1: held by a guy who played the prime of his
Speaker 1: career in the nineteen thirties and forties, said Luckman. That
Speaker 1: is embarrassing for an organization. This is this is when
Speaker 1: I'm so excited. This game is kind of annoying. I'm
Speaker 1: getting increasingly annoyed that when these Sunday night football bangers
Speaker 1: are happening something we're doing the pod and stuff. Because
Speaker 1: this one, these are two teams I feel like I
Speaker 1: still I don't know about I mean, it's after it.
Speaker 1: While we're talking, their season is starting around Thanksgiving. As
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, let's find out about the dog thanks
Speaker 1: Givings when you really got to stop paying attention in
Speaker 1: the National Football League where they night you know what
Speaker 1: next next season, we'll test that and we'll check in
Speaker 1: as a group around December one. Uh. Finally, it is
Speaker 1: the game of the year. It is Monday night football.
Speaker 1: It is the nine and one Kansas City Chiefs, a
Speaker 1: lot of people view them as a favorite to go
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl against the nine and one Los
Speaker 1: Angeles Rams. Viewed by a lot of people as a
Speaker 1: favorite to go to the super Bowl. It's a potential preview,
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler of the super Bowl. It's a game being
Speaker 1: played where Los Angeles, Mark Sessler, not Mexico City. And
Speaker 1: we'll get to that in a minute. But before we do,
Speaker 1: let's talk about this football game. Oh my goodness, we're
Speaker 1: gonna have some fun on Monday night. I feel like
Speaker 1: everyone talks about the offenses over and over and over,
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to look at these defense and say
Speaker 1: who could come in and make an impact and prevent
Speaker 1: it from being just forty five to forty four, like
Speaker 1: everyone assumes it is one guy for the Chiefs. I
Speaker 1: think Dee Ford has been playing really really well for them,
Speaker 1: and they have justin Houston back. This game feels to
Speaker 1: me like you gotta get one of these teams to
Speaker 1: commit a killer turnover late third quarter, early fourth up,
Speaker 1: disrupt the flow of like seven straight touchdown drives by
Speaker 1: both teams, and that's the key. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: you're gonna get one turnover that everyone's gonna be talking
Speaker 1: about the next the next morning. Marcus Peters revenge game,
Speaker 1: not pointing to that necessarily, although that I would like
Speaker 1: to see him. What did he what did he do
Speaker 1: against the Jett was there was some let's do that
Speaker 1: a flag into the stadium, then came out of the
Speaker 1: locker room without his shoes on one of my favorite
Speaker 1: subplots tending up in like kicked out of the game,
Speaker 1: he was active at that point. That looked like such
Speaker 1: a home run trade for the Rams and has not
Speaker 1: worked out yet. And we'll see how the the Chiefs
Speaker 1: try to attack a guy that they know pretty well.
Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs defense is getting better, and you
Speaker 1: know d Ford is not gonna have Andre Smith to
Speaker 1: tee off on like he did last week in which
Speaker 1: was one of the most impressive mismatches I've ever seen
Speaker 1: in my life watching football. Snap after snap, Defour didn't
Speaker 1: even have to use moves. He just speed rushed him
Speaker 1: every single time and got to the quarterback. That won't
Speaker 1: happen against the Rams tackles. But he's having a great year.
Speaker 1: He's sort of like the DeMarcus Lawrence of this season.
Speaker 1: Justin Houston, like you said, Chris Jones is having a
Speaker 1: great They actually have a better front right now in
Speaker 1: terms of just the talent, in terms of top shelf
Speaker 1: guys playing at the height of their powers. Chris Jones
Speaker 1: so far has been a top ten player at his
Speaker 1: position more than Aaron Donald. Ford absolutely has in Justin
Speaker 1: Houston played really well last week. Yeah, because I think
Speaker 1: they have three guys playing at that higher level. I
Speaker 1: think Donald is the defensive player of the year for
Speaker 1: me right now. But Sue and Brockers have been solid.
Speaker 1: I don't think they've been game changers. Chief secondary has
Speaker 1: improved to Stephen Nelson is playing much better than he
Speaker 1: was there in the year. They got sore Inson back
Speaker 1: from injury. My fear, and it kind of plays into
Speaker 1: what you said a little bit there. Just now, Greg,
Speaker 1: is the last time the Rams in a big spot,
Speaker 1: that defense, which got pumped up in World it as
Speaker 1: a difference making defense when they went against the Saints,
Speaker 1: they got embarrassed, they got dunked on by the Saints,
Speaker 1: and there are some differences. This game is going to
Speaker 1: be in their building, and obviously it's the Chiefs not
Speaker 1: the Saints this time. But you're wondering does this Ram
Speaker 1: defense have it in him to really put up a
Speaker 1: fight when you get to at this level of offense.
Speaker 1: Does any team does any defense in football? Maybe that's
Speaker 1: the greater question, but is this Rams defense capable of
Speaker 1: making big stops when he counts against a truly elite
Speaker 1: offense and don't hurt yourself? Let five personal fouls last
Speaker 1: week that you can't do that in this game. John
Speaker 1: McVeigh was about as upset about that as he's been
Speaker 1: upset about anything since he's been a coach. And they
Speaker 1: don't have a keep to lead back, which I really
Speaker 1: do think will make a pretty big difference for that defense.
Speaker 1: But I totally expect Patrick Mahomes to light them up.
Speaker 1: I mean Patrick Mahomes. Last week I thought was an
Speaker 1: interesting test from because he really got hit a lot,
Speaker 1: and there there was a great article on the Athletic
Speaker 1: that that pointed out kind of what he did on
Speaker 1: some place where if you're watching the broadcast feed, it
Speaker 1: looks like guys are pretty wide open, but Mahomes is
Speaker 1: pretty next level with the way that he sort of
Speaker 1: points his body in one direction and then passes another
Speaker 1: and that's what gets them open or he's really good
Speaker 1: for a second year quarterback the first year starter of
Speaker 1: using his eyes. And there was a great play down
Speaker 1: the sideline where he pumped faked, you know, a cornerback away.
Speaker 1: So he's doing a lot of next level things. It's
Speaker 1: not just that their scheming plays open for him. He's
Speaker 1: incredibly I guess, I guess has a good feel for
Speaker 1: the game, kind of like an Andrew luck could anticipation
Speaker 1: to which not all young quarterbacks have. One other thing
Speaker 1: that I'll be tracking this game because I love the
Speaker 1: m v P race and I love the history of
Speaker 1: all that. Uh right now, the way it is, it
Speaker 1: seems mahomes freeze you. You put them where you want
Speaker 1: to put him, and then Girly maybe a distant third.
Speaker 1: I put golf third. I okay, but you, Girly. This
Speaker 1: is the stage if Gurley has any chance of that,
Speaker 1: if he puts his team on his back and as
Speaker 1: a monster game, with everybody that watches football watching this game,
Speaker 1: the ratings are gonna be huge. He would enter the
Speaker 1: m v P race in earnest Right now as it stands.
Speaker 1: Right now, I think he's lucky to win the bronze,
Speaker 1: and that's probably it's going to turn out just be
Speaker 1: offensive Player of the Year again, right, But if he
Speaker 1: has a monster game here, that could put him into
Speaker 1: the race legitimately and maybe golf too. I'm not totally
Speaker 1: we still have seven games left. I think he's I
Speaker 1: don't think he's underrated, but I think he's making a
Speaker 1: lot of really special throws on a weekly bass right now,
Speaker 1: he had I would put him third. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: if if they had a dominant performance where he had
Speaker 1: another night like he did against Minnesota. I mean some
Speaker 1: of some of these throws, thinking of one against the
Speaker 1: Packers where you know they're getting pressure on him quickly
Speaker 1: and he's making plays on his own. He's showing anticipation
Speaker 1: like he he is impressive. Well, I think for for
Speaker 1: golf to be considered in the m v P, because
Speaker 1: it comes down to this stuff, he's gonna have to
Speaker 1: beat the Chiefs like if they if they ever if
Speaker 1: they were nipped by Kansas City. Golf is out of
Speaker 1: that matching out's narrative base, and that's part of it.
Speaker 1: Like this, this has got such a high profile game
Speaker 1: of these three heavy p canddates and someone goes nuts
Speaker 1: of these three guys that's gonna go a long way
Speaker 1: with that. You can't in Kansas City and lose to
Speaker 1: New Orleans. Yeah, I think it's gonna be Breezer Mahomes.
Speaker 1: But there's and they. I think there's something about the
Speaker 1: Rams that it kind of frustrates Mark at times, and
Speaker 1: it almost is like there, it almost looks too easy
Speaker 1: for them. They remind me of the Peyton Manning Colts,
Speaker 1: like they only have a handful amount of plays and
Speaker 1: they just execute them so well, it's like a machine
Speaker 1: going up into the field. Let's pick this game, Mark,
Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs are gonna win. Uh. Like again
Speaker 1: I said, I think it's gonna come down to some
Speaker 1: sort of defensive turnover that changes the landscape here. Final score. Wow.
Speaker 1: I don't think the Rams can stop the Chiefs, But
Speaker 1: that goes both ways. And I always picked the Rams,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna stay with them. Well, I get how
Speaker 1: about a little Rams in their building rallying around a
Speaker 1: lot of drama all around them. Have you made your luck?
Speaker 1: I have I locked up the Houston Texans. I almost
Speaker 1: locked up the Rams. I feel good about him. This
Speaker 1: week I considered locking up the Chiefs. I just think
Speaker 1: that they're the best team in the league and this
Speaker 1: is gonna be the day to see it. I hope
Speaker 1: I'm wrong because I couldn't root for the old Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you still would be a nice got all this fresh
Speaker 1: blood the top of the league. Right now, I get
Speaker 1: the Patriots out of there, Let's get the Chiefs in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. The steel is back in the game
Speaker 1: against the Rams of the Saints. Such as freshen it
Speaker 1: up a little bit. What do you think, right? It
Speaker 1: would make my Super Bowl week less stressful, So there's
Speaker 1: like a positive to it for you know, it's stressful
Speaker 1: watching your team go like three and thirteen twelve years
Speaker 1: in a row. Yeah, exactly. Um. By the way, Mark,
Speaker 1: I officially I have a statement to make about the
Speaker 1: sandwich prop in the Rams game being moved from Azteca. Uh.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of social media outcry in in
Speaker 1: favor of you and support of you. Um My feeling
Speaker 1: on the issue, which was made clear Wednesday, was that
Speaker 1: though you hid it in spirit, you did not nail it.
Speaker 1: So that's why I had voted no. But I understand
Speaker 1: that people want to see a fun prediction rewarded and
Speaker 1: for that reason, although I disagree I will recuse myself
Speaker 1: from this matter entirely. That was a non apology apolog Well,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm the one who has given the sandwich, and
Speaker 1: I had already. Yeah, I told someone on Twitter last
Speaker 1: night when they made the argument, Greg, I have recused myself. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I responded on Twitter to someone who made the argument
Speaker 1: that it was like the catch rule and that one.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm a man that can be swayed by
Speaker 1: logical arguments, and I thought that was a great way
Speaker 1: to put it, that that you were getting so caught
Speaker 1: up in in the rule book you had lost sight
Speaker 1: of what is a catch, what is not a catch,
Speaker 1: what is a correct prop, what is not a prop?
Speaker 1: And ultimately Mark did get it right. And I tried
Speaker 1: to get him a sandwich or a burrito today, But well,
Speaker 1: I even thought about surprising him. No, no, no, I
Speaker 1: I texted him at eight thirty and sent him the
Speaker 1: menus because I was getting something for myself too. Uh.
Speaker 1: And what I was thinking of surprising him? But what
Speaker 1: are the odds of finding food that Mark likes that well,
Speaker 1: hold on to my sterious lunch date at three pm?
Speaker 1: So here two scenarios definitely not at all. Two scenarios.
Speaker 1: One if I just Walston here with a sandwich from Greg,
Speaker 1: assuming that that would not cause conflict within the room.
Speaker 1: That it's no, no, no no, I'm saying. I'm saying it's
Speaker 1: because it's not just. It's not just, it's not just
Speaker 1: one person's decision. And I'm going to I'm not going
Speaker 1: to accept anything yet either. I'm gonna think about this
Speaker 1: because it feels like something that will come back to
Speaker 1: haunt me in various ways. When Dan's pulled himself out
Speaker 1: of the race. I see the long game here, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna think about it over the weekend. It doesn't
Speaker 1: matter I give. I'm bringing you the sandwich, so shouldn't
Speaker 1: either take it or you don't. Could have got hupper,
Speaker 1: were a full of watermelon or something. It's great. It's
Speaker 1: a democracy. Is three people here. Uh And even if
Speaker 1: I did keep my horse in the race, I would
Speaker 1: have been that voted. It sounds like so I think
Speaker 1: it's a peaceful ending. Well myself. You know, we'll make
Speaker 1: some space on a on a later episode to revote
Speaker 1: on the Philly Special, which is much more of a
Speaker 1: heinous crime than this scenario. Yeah, that I will any
Speaker 1: sandwich and change hands in a long time. The number
Speaker 1: of it up. The number of our listeners who have
Speaker 1: absolutely no respect for the helmet catch blows my mind.
Speaker 1: People have short memories, so I think a lot of
Speaker 1: Philly Special looks like in ten years. Is my my
Speaker 1: argument all along, I will be people are prisoners of
Speaker 1: the moment. Yes they are. And I think a lot
Speaker 1: of these listeners weren't even watching football when the helmet
Speaker 1: catch was made. I don't like how this episode ended.
Speaker 1: Why no, The Philly Special to me is like every
Speaker 1: once in a while you will just think about it
Speaker 1: and they'll be like that absurd. Well when, yeah, when
Speaker 1: you when you rejected my sandwiches, I was hoping that
Speaker 1: you didn't like, sort of want it. You didn't want
Speaker 1: something to be battling again. You do want to win this, right,
Speaker 1: I very much appreciate your gesture, Greg Erica. Have you
Speaker 1: noted in today's minutes that I recused myself it's three
Speaker 1: oh one, al right, good stuff. We'll be back on
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