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Speaker 1: The first Cowboy takeaway of the night, how quan jorg bluish?
Speaker 1: And that was the play that's sealed an amazing victory
Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboys thirteen to ten in Dallas this
Speaker 1: evening over the previously ten and one and now ten
Speaker 1: and two, and previously invincible looking New Orleans Saints. Now
Speaker 1: you've got to ask, what is happening? Mark Cecil here
Speaker 1: riding solo this evening will throw it to the rest
Speaker 1: of the gang and myself in a few or perhaps
Speaker 1: I will filibuster and speak for forty five to fifty minutes,
Speaker 1: because this is a very or occurrence in this studio.
Speaker 1: What a game this evening. This was an absolute delight
Speaker 1: of a Thursday night affair. And before we get going,
Speaker 1: big ups to our colleague, the great Gil Brand, who
Speaker 1: was inducted into the Cowboys Ring of Honor this evening.
Speaker 1: As any Cowboys fan worth their salt knows, Brand was
Speaker 1: an absolutely pivotal member of team history in Dallas, and
Speaker 1: much more than that, the draft the combine is the
Speaker 1: essentially the the godfather of the NFL scouting combine. So
Speaker 1: a big evening for Gil Brand tonight. Every time you
Speaker 1: speak to him and we have the chance once in
Speaker 1: a while, you learned something new. A wonderful guy. Congrats
Speaker 1: and now let's get to this game. What an evening.
Speaker 1: I honestly, I know that I sound often cynical about
Speaker 1: a lot of these um these primetime affairs, especially the
Speaker 1: fact that Dallas has always shoved into them no matter what,
Speaker 1: But this was my favorite game of the year so far.
Speaker 1: It felt ripped right out of January, and I felt
Speaker 1: that Dallas set the tone immediately and really in a
Speaker 1: way that I don't I can't think of too many
Speaker 1: teams that have set the tone against an opponent the
Speaker 1: way that they did all season long. It was really
Speaker 1: incredible to watch shoving New Orleans into a pair of
Speaker 1: three out three and ounce right out of the gate.
Speaker 1: Drew Brees, an eighteen year career. He has never until
Speaker 1: tonight opened oh for four passing the Cowboys. It seems
Speaker 1: like a miniscule staff, but how has that never happened?
Speaker 1: But it really did tell you what was going to
Speaker 1: happen for the risk rest of this game. And you know,
Speaker 1: for the first time in EON's we saw an entity
Speaker 1: called the Saints punter emerging from the deep shadows. I
Speaker 1: don't this guy has essentially been in bubble wrap all season.
Speaker 1: Seems like a nice job. Tonight. He had to do
Speaker 1: some work. And it wasn't just their defense. You know
Speaker 1: Dallas what they did. They went right down the field
Speaker 1: on their first drive for a field goal. And it's
Speaker 1: the first time in five games that the Saints trailed
Speaker 1: and I saw it on Twitter. Everyone's saying, you cannot
Speaker 1: beat this team with field goals. You've got to score touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Absolutely true. But tonight was the aberration for that. And
Speaker 1: Dallas came right back later when they went up tend
Speaker 1: nothing on an incredible screen asked to Ezekiel Elliott, and
Speaker 1: you just got the feeling at this point you wondered
Speaker 1: if it could last in this season where the war
Speaker 1: cry is the defense simply does not matter. Well, tell
Speaker 1: that to tell that to the Cowboys, because they overcame
Speaker 1: later on into Marii Cooper fumble, and that's when I
Speaker 1: thought the Saints are gonna everything's gonna flip and they're
Speaker 1: gonna come back in. But minutes later, what did they do?
Speaker 1: A goal line stand on the Saints and it was
Speaker 1: just another stretch of play where DeMarcus Lawrence I thought
Speaker 1: he looked like an all Pro this evening. Jalen Smith
Speaker 1: shined and rookie linebacker Layton Vandersch made it very clear
Speaker 1: that he is a vastly unique player and he is
Speaker 1: going to be around for a long long time. And
Speaker 1: we saw something ripped out of ten I thought as
Speaker 1: Dallas just was able to chew up the clock with
Speaker 1: these long drives, keeping the Saints really in something of
Speaker 1: a deep sleep, and they to close the first half
Speaker 1: the way they did, where the six team play seventy
Speaker 1: one yard field goal drive. It's this was this was
Speaker 1: the thing and eight up nine plus minutes. This is
Speaker 1: the game that made you think that maybe Dallas can
Speaker 1: do something that no one else has been able to
Speaker 1: do against these high powered offenses. This is how you
Speaker 1: mess with the Saints who had about thirty one yards
Speaker 1: of offense in the first half. Incredible. This was This
Speaker 1: was really a game that I found from wire to
Speaker 1: wire fascinating to watch. It flew by like a pictures duel.
Speaker 1: And there was a moment I thought, when the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: you know, a different type of Cowboys effort, they would
Speaker 1: have been doomed when Randy Gregory had a terrible penalty
Speaker 1: in the second half. It was essentially a roughing the
Speaker 1: kicker call that put the Saints back in action, and
Speaker 1: they quickly scored to get up within you know, within
Speaker 1: three of the Cowboys, and you thought, this is what
Speaker 1: at some point, this little thing where you're trying to
Speaker 1: squeeze the ball out of the Saints hands with these
Speaker 1: long drives and you're not scoring much yourself, it's bound
Speaker 1: to it's bound to crumble. But but minutes later, that
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis interception just outside of the two minute warning
Speaker 1: sealed it. And I think this game is a major
Speaker 1: fly in the ointment. Amid all this talk about the
Speaker 1: the defense does not matter, it still matters. Obviously the
Speaker 1: trend is in the opposite direction, But tonight it's showed differently.
Speaker 1: And for all the talk of Jason Garrett being you know,
Speaker 1: weeks away from being fired. This was an incredible coaching
Speaker 1: effort by him, and it was an incredibly inspired affair
Speaker 1: by the whole team, a team that I you know
Speaker 1: that I've counted out the whole NFC East. I've counted out.
Speaker 1: I said some very unpretty things later in this show
Speaker 1: about the NFC East, which you know, I'm gonna ask
Speaker 1: our editors if they have time to maybe remove because
Speaker 1: I look like an absolute idiot. Uh not the first time,
Speaker 1: but a hundred and seventy total yards for the Saints,
Speaker 1: and and I think it tells you that Dallas is
Speaker 1: the team to beat in this division. Don't talk to
Speaker 1: me about the Redskins or an Eagles team that can't
Speaker 1: string wins together and looks utterly lost. So really an
Speaker 1: inspired affair inside an NFC East division that needed someone
Speaker 1: to step up. That we have the beginning of that
Speaker 1: right now. They moved to seven and five and it's
Speaker 1: it's been a good week because they had the Thanksgiving win.
Speaker 1: You get this and listen, what else can you say?
Speaker 1: Cam behind the glass? I do well, I don't know
Speaker 1: what's going on here. It's late at night, it's one
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles? Why do we have a phone line
Speaker 1: lit up? What's happening here? I have no idea, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and patch it through. Is that
Speaker 1: cool with you? It is? I mean I'm alone here,
Speaker 1: so I could use some company, sir. All right, here
Speaker 1: we go. The Cowboys win in a SmackDown, and this
Speaker 1: lander vander ash is rugged downhill thumping linebacker who sits
Speaker 1: atop an Erica list for Defensive Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 1: He's a rugged, tall drink of water. Shot up, I'm
Speaker 1: doing something football related with a long muscular frame. He's
Speaker 1: quick to the edges, he's instinctual, and he has fresh, young,
Speaker 1: vibrant skin. Yum, yum. He's the closest thing this team
Speaker 1: has to a real cowboy man. Oh yeah, now back
Speaker 1: to Hollywood football out. Okay, that felt vast lee unnecessary,
Speaker 1: but um, we will get back to real football analysis soon.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Erica. I'm not sure what's happening in your
Speaker 1: in your home or apartment wherever it is you live.
Speaker 1: The Saints listen like the next four games they have
Speaker 1: the Bucks, the Panthers, the Steelers and the Panthers again,
Speaker 1: not an easy slate. The Cowboys have the Eagles, Cults,
Speaker 1: Bucks and Giants. I think this is the team to
Speaker 1: beat in the NFC East. And before we get to
Speaker 1: the pod, a very happy birthday to our friend Mr
Speaker 1: f Out in the Hague the Netherlands turns the Big five.
Speaker 1: Oh today, we love you, my friend, and happy birthday
Speaker 1: to you from all four of us and the whole
Speaker 1: cast and crew. And now let's get to the Week
Speaker 1: thirteen preview. It's a big show. Hang with us. Be
Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast is the cause and solution to
Speaker 1: the loose cannons wine Rob Welcome back to another edition
Speaker 1: of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan
Speaker 1: Hansers and I am joined in a room filled with heroes,
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg Growth. A thought, what
Speaker 1: is up? Boys? Whenever we can get out of here.
Speaker 1: With Tamposey being tapped as the one with the wine problem,
Speaker 1: I'm accepting that I could think of a few others.
Speaker 1: But do you drink the grapes sometimes? But people have
Speaker 1: tweeted these at us, like I we tweeted out, you know,
Speaker 1: and I was like, what makes you think I have
Speaker 1: a problem? Great job by the listeners, I think on
Speaker 1: the money drops lately getting better You're six or season
Speaker 1: six and with getting better and better. Um, speaking of
Speaker 1: people interacting on Twitter, um, our holiday party's coming up
Speaker 1: as uh, as you may or may not be aware,
Speaker 1: And uh, I did have an idea at one point
Speaker 1: Erica too, Um we get a plus one for the
Speaker 1: first time. I had the idea, why don't we, you know,
Speaker 1: auction off a date with Ricky Hollywood. But after seeing
Speaker 1: some of the activity on your Twitter lately, no too
Speaker 1: many creeps out there, God, clean it up, guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's been bad. I always thought of our
Speaker 1: listener ship as um typically almost essentially all male, which
Speaker 1: I think is still pretty accurate. But uh, decent folk
Speaker 1: who were, if anything, maybe a tad lonely at times.
Speaker 1: Some of it's like the same way any of us
Speaker 1: were when we were young. You're just trying to your
Speaker 1: drift list to some degree. Um. But but I've seen
Speaker 1: another side now that I would strike his utterly concerned,
Speaker 1: always gonna have a couple of bad apples. I I
Speaker 1: choose to believe that these creeps are just a few,
Speaker 1: you know, sprinkle of the crazies out there, and the
Speaker 1: most of our list. Just imagine one of those creeps
Speaker 1: one said auction and was standing next to us at
Speaker 1: the holidays. I think that's a good I think you're
Speaker 1: probably then there with you. Why should all of you
Speaker 1: guys A lot of messages I've been getting. And then
Speaker 1: the first thing Dan says to me is, imagine if
Speaker 1: that guy was next to you at the holiday party,
Speaker 1: auction as your date. And I was like, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I think in general, selling like a woman's body probably
Speaker 1: not a great you know it's not my but platform
Speaker 1: if I go as a date, Oh my god, Greg,
Speaker 1: what's wrong with you? Greg? Selling your body? I just
Speaker 1: assumed decent proposal. I just assumed that came with the package. Well,
Speaker 1: I think the problem is some of the people tweeting
Speaker 1: assumed that too, and that's that's where those people should
Speaker 1: not probably be allowed on the premises. Let's keep yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, you heard at the top of the show
Speaker 1: we talked some Saints, some cowboys in big d uh,
Speaker 1: and now we're gonna get to the rest of the week.
Speaker 1: Thirteen games. Yes it is uh. It's all over for
Speaker 1: the buys. So we got a lot of football to
Speaker 1: talk about. Uh. In fact, I think we should just
Speaker 1: get into it. Boys. We gotta stay on schedule. I
Speaker 1: missed the buys. But yes, you're right, no bloviating. That's
Speaker 1: the rule for today's show. All right, okay, what about
Speaker 1: holding forth? I'll call it out if I see some bloviation.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're spinning the finger, we need to
Speaker 1: actually pay attention to that. That signal. This time, let's
Speaker 1: get into it, and we'll start with the early games.
Speaker 1: The Baltimore Ravens, they ain't dead. They lost three in
Speaker 1: a row, they got left for dead. Then they came
Speaker 1: out of their by They installed Lamar Jackson as their
Speaker 1: quarterback and they've won two straight. So here they are
Speaker 1: six and five, uh, second place in the a f
Speaker 1: C North and right in the mix for the wild card.
Speaker 1: They now travel to Atlanta to face the Dirty Birds,
Speaker 1: the Falcons who have seen their season crumble Chris Westling
Speaker 1: three straight losses there, four and seven. They're pretty much
Speaker 1: cooked uh in the NFC. So if Lamar Jackson, who
Speaker 1: looks like he's starting again for the third straight week,
Speaker 1: he seems set up pretty well here to continue the
Speaker 1: good uh situation for Baltimore. Here, this is the destitute
Speaker 1: man's version of Cowboys versus Saints. As far as contrasted styles,
Speaker 1: the Ravens are averaging two rushing yards per game with
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. Falcons are thirty in rushing de v A.
Speaker 1: And you may say, hey, the Ravens ran all over
Speaker 1: the reeling Bangles and the cratering Raiders. Well, let me
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. The Falcons are dead last
Speaker 1: in defensive d v o A this year, thirty second
Speaker 1: in Football Outsiders metrics. So can can the Falcons defense
Speaker 1: stop Lamar Jackson and Gus Edwards? And is he gonna
Speaker 1: lock it up? Can Lamar Jackson competing a shootout with
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan? I don't know, it's a It's an sounded
Speaker 1: like you sort of do believe the Ravens can get
Speaker 1: this thing done. I thought you were. Maybe. I think
Speaker 1: they can bend the Falcons defense to their will, But
Speaker 1: I do not think that Lamar Jackson can pass with
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. If this gets into the high twenties in score,
Speaker 1: now they can do those thirteen fifteen play drives. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're still searching for balance. They came out trying to pass,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna need to pass their trying to keep
Speaker 1: their receivers happy. It's it. I just can't I can't
Speaker 1: believe we're here at week and the Falcons are out
Speaker 1: of it. I don't know they were every all four
Speaker 1: of us had them in the conference championships that were
Speaker 1: I just I can't believe it. But I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess if you can keep Matt Ryan off the field
Speaker 1: with long drives that are are run heavy, but there
Speaker 1: there isn't that. The next gen status shows that Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson the passer is struggling in various areas. He has
Speaker 1: a zero passerrating throwing into tight windows and like a
Speaker 1: forty four completion percentage throwing out wide. So it's like
Speaker 1: he is still a work in progress, and that's not
Speaker 1: a surprise. We knew that coming in. So they, you know,
Speaker 1: they're sort of like kind of stuck doing what they're
Speaker 1: doing to some degree, and maybe you know, being in
Speaker 1: a dome too, it will help them with their speed
Speaker 1: on the ground. Both the Falcons and the Panthers are
Speaker 1: two teams that have created in the last three weeks
Speaker 1: that I kind of thought a lot more of. So
Speaker 1: I am out of the game of thinking that Falcons
Speaker 1: are gonna come come on strong here, and I just
Speaker 1: think the Ravens are kind of in a good place
Speaker 1: here because maybe Lamar Lamar Jackson is going to make mistakes,
Speaker 1: and he's not a perfect quarterback. He certainly is not
Speaker 1: polished at the stage in his career. But they have
Speaker 1: some positive energy around them right now with Jackson in
Speaker 1: the lineup, and you cannot say that for the Falcons.
Speaker 1: So I kind of feel like that will travel, uh,
Speaker 1: And that's why I will not lock it up. But
Speaker 1: I think the we we also keep talking about the
Speaker 1: Falcons offense in their last three games, their output point
Speaker 1: wise sixteen, nineteen and seventeen last year. They have no
Speaker 1: running game and they've made some big mistakes and the
Speaker 1: lines not playing as well. You're right, and this is
Speaker 1: a game where that the Ravens defense needs to stand
Speaker 1: up the Ravens to be they have the They're a
Speaker 1: fascinating team right now. They they have so much at stake,
Speaker 1: Like it's this is like a script. You know, they
Speaker 1: would reject this script in Hollywood. Right now, it's like
Speaker 1: the Lamar Jackson, the rookie quarterbacks coming in trying to
Speaker 1: save John Harbaugh's job. They just have a lot at
Speaker 1: steak each and every week, because this whole thing could
Speaker 1: get blown up. It's not just Joe Flacca, who returned
Speaker 1: to practice by the way Thursday, and so if he
Speaker 1: doesn't play this week, that means he's essentially limited to limited,
Speaker 1: but that means he's essentially like that he's getting closer
Speaker 1: to to coming back. Here are some other guys that
Speaker 1: are up for free agency on this team, Drell Suggs,
Speaker 1: c J. Mosley, Zadarius Smith, Jimmy Smith could be gone
Speaker 1: next year. Eric Weddle, there's some talk that he might
Speaker 1: not be back. So this is just a team with
Speaker 1: a lot. It's think that kind of you're kind of spinning.
Speaker 1: This is like some Disney movie. I guess we don't
Speaker 1: needed about the Ravens. Yeah, I did need a two
Speaker 1: and a half hour movie about the race. Would never
Speaker 1: find John Harbo interesting and I and they definitely find
Speaker 1: watching Lamar Jackson interesting. All right, Let's move on to
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos, another team in the mix in the
Speaker 1: a f c um at five and six. They had
Speaker 1: that big win at home over the Steelers. The week
Speaker 1: before that, they went to uh the Hub. Nobody wants
Speaker 1: to go into the stub Hub because it's just a
Speaker 1: tough place to to win a football game, but they
Speaker 1: did it. That was a joke. Everybody wants to go
Speaker 1: to the stuff up because it's like a glorified home game. Anyway,
Speaker 1: So here they are five and six, still in the
Speaker 1: mix in the a f C. And they get another
Speaker 1: five and six team. But the Bengals, greg are about
Speaker 1: as bad as a five and six team can be
Speaker 1: right now. They are. They have one of the worst
Speaker 1: defenses in the league, in an offense that's more or
Speaker 1: less created when Aja Green was out of the lineup.
Speaker 1: But they do get Adre Green. I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: it's contagious, no more creators and and it's such a
Speaker 1: tough matchup for driscoll on paper. You mentioned I think
Speaker 1: in our last show West just about the improving Broncos
Speaker 1: defense since Week six. I believe it is. They are
Speaker 1: the number two defense according to d v O a
Speaker 1: uh the Vikings in the in the Broncos, who both
Speaker 1: started out slow defensively, they're playing just very sound defense.
Speaker 1: It's not flashy, but they have one of the best
Speaker 1: linebackers obviously in Ed Rushers and Von Miller, and one
Speaker 1: of the best cornerbacks and Chris Harris and a pretty
Speaker 1: just solid group overall otherwise. So it's kind of hard
Speaker 1: for me, even though, uh, I don't think this is
Speaker 1: a gimme for Denver because I don't think they're good
Speaker 1: enough to have any gimmes. It just seems like their
Speaker 1: defense should be enough to go win a game on them. Also,
Speaker 1: Cordy Glenn did not practice again. They had to sign
Speaker 1: Andre Smith, who was just cut, who is not a
Speaker 1: very good tackle, and you're dealing with the best duo
Speaker 1: of pass rushers in the league. It's not it's Bradley
Speaker 1: Chubb along with Von Miller. I don't this the one.
Speaker 1: The one positive I think for the Bengals is that
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon has been running week after week, but it
Speaker 1: gets lost in all their other areas. Tyler Boyd is
Speaker 1: another positive. He's been fantastic this year, and that the
Speaker 1: Broncos interior offensive line in line in general is so bad.
Speaker 1: I I'm sort of already backing off mentally of thinking
Speaker 1: this team can make the playoffs despite their schedule, because
Speaker 1: case keenum overcame that last week. But that's asking too
Speaker 1: much to overcome it each and every week. I mean
Speaker 1: they they are one of the worst groups in the league,
Speaker 1: and that part of the team hasn't really his fans.
Speaker 1: Joseph in the process of winning his job back for
Speaker 1: next year. I think if he won eight games, he'd stay.
Speaker 1: That's just my gut feel of their offensive improvement. We'll
Speaker 1: have a lot to do with it. They say, must
Speaker 1: Grave he coached the I think is coached pretty well
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, especially last week. They cooked
Speaker 1: hot candidate now, but I think he had a nice
Speaker 1: week against the Steelers. They say, you could tell a
Speaker 1: lot about a coaching staff about how a team comes
Speaker 1: out of the bye. I am about to predict that
Speaker 1: the Bengals will lose all eight of their games out
Speaker 1: of there by heading into uh that's hard to do. Dan.
Speaker 1: The Jets are I I have heard from a few
Speaker 1: people that the Jets are locked in, very interested in
Speaker 1: Bill Musgrave as a potential hire for next season. Bill
Speaker 1: or Hugh quick word on, It's not gonna work out
Speaker 1: no matter who they are a little bit like Taysom
Speaker 1: Hill as far as his skill set, He's He's an
Speaker 1: incredible athlete, very fast athletic. Um through a couple of
Speaker 1: passes that should have been intercepted and weren't took a
Speaker 1: bad third down. Stack lifts his back leg at times
Speaker 1: like Blake Bortles a little bit of mc shoes, but
Speaker 1: he's more fun than Dalton to watch, Like he could
Speaker 1: be interesting to watch. I just think he's gonna turn
Speaker 1: the ball over a lot. Greg, it's time. It's week thirteen.
Speaker 1: Uh time to uh take out your internal calculator and
Speaker 1: let us know a path to the playoffs to the
Speaker 1: Broncos by an up the machine because of what I
Speaker 1: said in terms of their offensive line. They they're five
Speaker 1: and six, so they're a game behind the Ravens and Colts,
Speaker 1: who I both think are headed to nine wins. At
Speaker 1: the very least, you gotta win five, you gotta win
Speaker 1: five out of six. I don't think that's happening with this.
Speaker 1: I think they find a way to loose. Maybe the
Speaker 1: Browns game next week especially, it could be a tough one,
Speaker 1: but it's still early enough where there's a clear path
Speaker 1: to the playoffs as long as they take all these five.
Speaker 1: I'm almost afraid to say Marvin Lewis is dead because
Speaker 1: we've said it like four different Lewis is an idiot,
Speaker 1: let's move on. Let's bring that one back. Ricky. We
Speaker 1: need a new calculators don't have that. It's also like
Speaker 1: it sounds like a lazy mathematician. He's going very slight.
Speaker 1: It's not good at his job. The Rams are ten
Speaker 1: and one. They are coming off one of the biggest,
Speaker 1: most memorable games in the history of their franchise, that
Speaker 1: Monday Night win over the Chiefs, so then they got
Speaker 1: to buy and now they're in Detroit Mark Sessler to
Speaker 1: face a Lions team that uh as was on clear
Speaker 1: display on Thanksgiving. Just there's no there's no weapons around
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford right now, and it's not getting any better
Speaker 1: with Marvin Jones getting moved to I r uh there
Speaker 1: to me, there's just this is a game you can't
Speaker 1: look in the mirror. I don't care. I don't even
Speaker 1: do with anyone, because how would the Lions ever keep
Speaker 1: paced with this RAMS team in their current state. I mean,
Speaker 1: if someone attempted to lock up the Rams in this game,
Speaker 1: we I think you're off the podcast for good because
Speaker 1: you're you just don't It almost makes me want to
Speaker 1: try it, just to see the reaction. You'd go full villain.
Speaker 1: You'd go pure Hackenburg. I mean the Lions too, do
Speaker 1: not try. I wasn't thinking of it. I just I
Speaker 1: feel like there was all this hope around Matt Patricia
Speaker 1: as someone that was this. You know, he's a rocket scientist.
Speaker 1: He's gonna come in and remold the identity of the
Speaker 1: Detroit line of well, I'm just I don't know. It
Speaker 1: reminds me of like when Belichick took over the Patriots
Speaker 1: in two thousand and so easy to forget this that
Speaker 1: he was. His cue rating was so low back then.
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick that and I saw it from the Browns angle,
Speaker 1: where he utterly was seen as a failure in Cleveland,
Speaker 1: where I thought otherwise. But the media hated him. And
Speaker 1: that first year with the Patriots they went five and eleven.
Speaker 1: They were awful, and it looked like Robert Craft had
Speaker 1: been off more than you can choo because he was
Speaker 1: still learning how to be an owner. And the next
Speaker 1: year they opened up one in three and is like
Speaker 1: asking for him to be fired. People are high lean
Speaker 1: on him on Belichick so hard, and then by the
Speaker 1: end of that year they win the Super Bowl. So
Speaker 1: I guess the thing is you have to be patient
Speaker 1: with Matt Patricia, but I feel like he's already started
Speaker 1: to grumble with reporters. He's had two or three incidents
Speaker 1: where he's telling reporters to improve their their posture when
Speaker 1: they're in the crowd pinning him with questions. And so
Speaker 1: you have to have patients. But the problem with this
Speaker 1: game as you look across the sideline, and we have
Speaker 1: coaches today in Sean McVeigh and someone like Matt Neggi,
Speaker 1: where in one season everything changes, and so it's just
Speaker 1: like with Matt Patricia, I don't know, I come out
Speaker 1: of this Lions experience wondering, like, what's what's been accomplished?
Speaker 1: Counterpoint that feels really unfair to Patricia because when you
Speaker 1: have to you look at the personnel and what's going on.
Speaker 1: Like I I hold on my argument is that I'm
Speaker 1: comparing them to the what happened with Bill Belichick. We're
Speaker 1: a year in four games in people were saying it's
Speaker 1: an utter failure. We don't know. It's just that there's
Speaker 1: a lack of patients today and it's not a good
Speaker 1: look for all right. I understand that, like I take
Speaker 1: over a winning team to which is worth remembering, But
Speaker 1: really I mean is there is there a winning team
Speaker 1: that that's kind of more fugazy than than with the Lions. Well,
Speaker 1: what Lions are a team that I don't care. They
Speaker 1: can go nine and seven from here until uh twenty
Speaker 1: years from now, and I smell and I just don't.
Speaker 1: It's no reason to think that you're taking over a
Speaker 1: team that's like on the cusp of becoming something special.
Speaker 1: They're another team that just kind of exists and they
Speaker 1: need a lot of work to be done with them.
Speaker 1: There's something I'm comfortable about watching Matthew Stafford, who is
Speaker 1: one of the most physically gifted quarterbacks in the league,
Speaker 1: run such a dink and dunk boring offense. It's like,
Speaker 1: are we use are you using his skill set the best?
Speaker 1: And that makes me think, are they gonna, you know,
Speaker 1: have Coutar around next year? But I'm more interested in
Speaker 1: the Rams. There the relevant team in this game. And
Speaker 1: well I was trying to attempt not just to talk
Speaker 1: about the Rams shot. Yeah, I just wanted I do
Speaker 1: not hate them. I'm curious to see what McVeigh does
Speaker 1: coming out of a bye though, because I think great
Speaker 1: coaches read Belichick, they self scout they come out of
Speaker 1: the bike, maybe looking a little different, maybe making some adjustments.
Speaker 1: Certainly the defense could use some adjustments. How are they
Speaker 1: gonna handle Cooper cups lot? You know, lost long terms,
Speaker 1: So we'll see if they come out with some new brings.
Speaker 1: Leabe expected to play for the first huge. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Rams are twenty nine and points allowed since week four.
Speaker 1: Keep to Leeb might help solve some of that. Let's
Speaker 1: move on. The Cardinals are two and nine. They're on
Speaker 1: a three game losing streak that got pasted by the Chargers. Uh.
Speaker 1: They want up tend nothing last week against l A
Speaker 1: and then gave up forty five on an answered point.
Speaker 1: So that kind of tells you where they're at as
Speaker 1: a franchise right now. They now travel to lambeau Field
Speaker 1: the face the Packers, who have lost four or five,
Speaker 1: and they have a chance now to get healthy. They
Speaker 1: got the Cardinals this week, uh West and then uh
Speaker 1: the Falcons at home next week. They finally started, finally start.
Speaker 1: It's a great point because they're gonna, Oh, they're gonna
Speaker 1: hang around. And that brings us to Aaron Rodgers this
Speaker 1: year's mission statement. We're just gonna let it all hang out.
Speaker 1: That's what the playing style is gonna be and Randall
Speaker 1: Cops said he's getting ready to light everybody up this
Speaker 1: week talking about Aaron Rodgers. Great, that's fine. Whatever, I'm
Speaker 1: not buying in. There are only six teams in the
Speaker 1: league with fewer wins than the Packers this year. I'm
Speaker 1: not doing this where we're talking to every week. Are
Speaker 1: the Packers gonna make the playoffs? I'm with Mark on this.
Speaker 1: The Packers are over there over the hump. They jumped
Speaker 1: the shark. They're done for the year. Sorry, that's fine.
Speaker 1: They're gonna win this game. They're gonna win three in
Speaker 1: a row. You're not allowed to come back and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden be singing see poems about Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: and how fun they are. All Right, it's a it's
Speaker 1: a big decision, That's all I'm saying. I mean, I
Speaker 1: feel I'm living with it without too many I'm allowed
Speaker 1: to enjoy Aaron Rodgers. But on this podcast, they're gonna
Speaker 1: be like you have to you have to be like
Speaker 1: Mark and just grumble throughout every great throw Aaron Rodgers. Well, no,
Speaker 1: I will say this, though the schedule schedule suggests they're
Speaker 1: gonna go. Here's what I think they're gonna do. They're
Speaker 1: going to go four and one down the stretch and
Speaker 1: be eight seven and one. But there's gonna be some
Speaker 1: mathematical nonsense going on in week seventeen and they're gonna
Speaker 1: shove them into prime time or do something with it
Speaker 1: where we gotta deal with it until the But we
Speaker 1: don't know if Mike Daniel's back. They are very banged up.
Speaker 1: They had thirteen guys on their injury report. Randall cob
Speaker 1: Maybe it's coming back, David back there, you know they
Speaker 1: Here's what I want is what is the phrase this week?
Speaker 1: Like let's let it all hang out? So that was Wednesdays,
Speaker 1: but Sundays was also the the whole narrative of Rogers,
Speaker 1: like ticking through the schedule one by one. I think
Speaker 1: as a as a society, the COGNISCENTI needs to stop
Speaker 1: like waiting to see what Rogers says after each one
Speaker 1: of these games. They're like, what's his little thing this week?
Speaker 1: I mean, what's this thing this year? He's just talking?
Speaker 1: Let's stop picking that. That's always the top story on ESPN.
Speaker 1: Whatever Rodgers is catchphrases after the latest loss. My other
Speaker 1: thing is, let's say they do get tired, tired bit
Speaker 1: football people. They get to eight wins by beating the Cardinals, Falcons, Jets,
Speaker 1: and Lions. I still don't know what to make of
Speaker 1: this team. They should beat those teams that they're mediocre
Speaker 1: mediocre team, Like I said, only six teams have fewer
Speaker 1: wins and the Packers right now they are basically a nonentity. God.
Speaker 1: If they that schedule though, and the Bears they can
Speaker 1: win out, they really can. One probably will get it done.
Speaker 1: I think it would. Here's the thing that just based
Speaker 1: on and I'll agree with what you were saying Western,
Speaker 1: just based on what we've seen, they're much more likely
Speaker 1: to lose to one of those teams and they are
Speaker 1: to make I don't think yeah, I don't think magic
Speaker 1: is happening this year. They have issues. They they have
Speaker 1: an absence of playmakers which is inexcusable. Outside of Davante Adams.
Speaker 1: They're waiting for these young guys to step up, which
Speaker 1: isn't happening. Jimmy Graham is just not Jimmy Graham and
Speaker 1: now he's heard as well Aaron Jones in a revelation.
Speaker 1: But there's just something that's not clicking with that team.
Speaker 1: Offensively or defensively, which defense that has didn't get a
Speaker 1: lot of help in the waning years of the Ted
Speaker 1: Thompson era. And now I think they're paying for it
Speaker 1: through you know when you wait, when you see like
Speaker 1: a movie, a preview comes out and like it gets
Speaker 1: you all a flutter. I know West hasn't been into
Speaker 1: a movie theater like thirty years, but Hollywood hates humanity,
Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna let the point being like we'll
Speaker 1: get excited occasionally for a previous up and then you
Speaker 1: go watch the movie and when it's a letdown, like
Speaker 1: you want to convince yourself even like this. I fall
Speaker 1: into this trap with some of these franchises has been
Speaker 1: around since some kids, Like you want to factured Joe,
Speaker 1: You want exactly, you want it to be like better
Speaker 1: than it actually was, and it takes you months to
Speaker 1: realize this product was subpar. And that is how I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people feel about the Packers. You
Speaker 1: want them to be this thing that they the product
Speaker 1: is subpar. Right now, the great thing is that they're
Speaker 1: playing a lot of teams. Last week, the Cardinals were
Speaker 1: playing on Fox and Chris Myers was kind of talking
Speaker 1: about their up early in the game and he's like,
Speaker 1: this is a team that's it's up against the ropes.
Speaker 1: And I really enjoyed Darryl Johnston just jumped in right
Speaker 1: and he's like, he's like, they're through the ropes. They
Speaker 1: fell through and it's like they're playing all these teams
Speaker 1: that fell through the ropes. They're they're out of the ring.
Speaker 1: You need a final decision. Where are you going? You're
Speaker 1: gonna hang in there? Are you gonna I don't like,
Speaker 1: are you gonna hang in there? Or we said about
Speaker 1: the Packers earlier meaningless. Okay, I can't have it both ways,
Speaker 1: but I can't enjoy a quarter by saying you can
Speaker 1: have it his way. You can you you can't have
Speaker 1: it where you're gonna be burying them for a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks as you've been doing now and then you'll
Speaker 1: kind of poo poo their win this week and then
Speaker 1: when they've been two more times. Add this is Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers that makes everything so special in football, and I
Speaker 1: love it, and he is the master tactician out there,
Speaker 1: Like you can't come back and be that guy this year,
Speaker 1: next year, you can do it. We've we've done this
Speaker 1: show for too long. Look, all I'm saying is I
Speaker 1: should still be allowed to watch him play. Even if
Speaker 1: I didn't say that, you still have to get That's
Speaker 1: what I'm taking. Grumble and curse. Uh if good things
Speaker 1: happened to Aaron Rodgers or bad things happen, No, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna grumble and curse. But I do believe that
Speaker 1: Mark has read this team well for the last month. Yes,
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about that. Mark. Let's talk about your
Speaker 1: team now. Great job picking up all the Cleveland Browns,
Speaker 1: the Bronies on a two game winning streak, and uh
Speaker 1: take out the abacus? Uh? Greg, shouldn't we wait till
Speaker 1: we get another? And they were on It's pretty early
Speaker 1: in the mix? Is it? Four six and one? They're
Speaker 1: still okay? If they win, they they have a six
Speaker 1: percent chance of making the playofs according to some of these. Uh,
Speaker 1: some of these they don't have an easy The problem
Speaker 1: with them is their schedule. If they had one of
Speaker 1: these cupcake schedules, then you can start. Really can they
Speaker 1: do not? All right, let's get into it. The Browns, Uh,
Speaker 1: four six and one. Nice winning Cincinnati last week, but
Speaker 1: now they're on the road against one of the hottest
Speaker 1: teams in the league, the Houston Texans, who are have
Speaker 1: one of course h straight including that Monday Night victory
Speaker 1: over the tight Tunes Um, Greg, I'll tee you up
Speaker 1: though on this one. So the idea of whether you
Speaker 1: buy into the Texans as despite the eight game winning streak,
Speaker 1: are you buying into the Texans as an a f
Speaker 1: C superpower right now? It's a good question. I guess no,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I want to see I want to see
Speaker 1: that perform that type of performance that they had against
Speaker 1: Tennessee another time. Offensively is where I'm not convinced that
Speaker 1: Lamar that basically you have one playmaker and DeAndre Hopkins,
Speaker 1: one very promising young quarterback in Deshaun Watson, and not
Speaker 1: enough else And so power is a strong word, right,
Speaker 1: super super and I get it. Though this is a
Speaker 1: unique year in the a f C. I think it's
Speaker 1: deeper than the NFC right now. We've said for years
Speaker 1: other Patriots, especially last year, this is a very thin conference.
Speaker 1: Right now. You have five teams with three losses or less,
Speaker 1: and the Texans are one of those. But to me,
Speaker 1: they are solidly that fifth team until proven others. But Honestly,
Speaker 1: if they won convincingly against the Browns, that would that
Speaker 1: would show me something because I think this is gonna
Speaker 1: be a very tough offense to stop right now with
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, and if their defense can do that, it
Speaker 1: shows that their defense really is one of the better
Speaker 1: defenses in the league. I feel like Cleveland has done
Speaker 1: something of a miracle over the last two weeks to
Speaker 1: not have a single sack on Baker Mayfield, and at
Speaker 1: some point someone's gonna figure out how to counteract whatever
Speaker 1: it is they're doing. He's good at sending pressure and
Speaker 1: getting rid of the ball, he is, but he was
Speaker 1: getting crushed. And I mean he's gotten better at it too,
Speaker 1: but here there were there were some awful weeks where
Speaker 1: he was running for his life and you still have
Speaker 1: Greg Robinson and Chris Hubbard playing tackle. And now you're
Speaker 1: dealing with something different than what the Bengals and Falcons
Speaker 1: were throwing at, which is J. J. Watt, Jaevan Clowney
Speaker 1: and the rest of that defense. And so this is
Speaker 1: a huge test for Cleveland play on the road, and Dan,
Speaker 1: like I, I totally buy into the Texans as a
Speaker 1: nuisance in the a f C. That if things could
Speaker 1: don't win eight games as a fluke. I mean you,
Speaker 1: it's good coaching. I really like Bill O'Brien and what
Speaker 1: he's done this. They could get a buy it we
Speaker 1: think about on the Twitter show just because of the schedule.
Speaker 1: I think they could get in there with three or
Speaker 1: four losses and get a buy. I also think they're
Speaker 1: one of these teams that it's almost better if they
Speaker 1: don't get to buy, where they have to go win
Speaker 1: a playoff game to get into the buy situated to
Speaker 1: get into that one of those teams with the buy
Speaker 1: and then play upset king that they are a team
Speaker 1: that if things went right, and especially if Lamar Miller
Speaker 1: continue to run the way he has last couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: which I think is still a massive wild card, they
Speaker 1: could be a big news. I think they're step below
Speaker 1: the top teams in the league, but um, I do
Speaker 1: think they have that ability when they click into that
Speaker 1: next gear gear where they are terrifying for anybody, and
Speaker 1: they should be because they have so many playmakers on
Speaker 1: this team on both sides of the ball, and yeah,
Speaker 1: the offense is the side. Their offense is what I'm
Speaker 1: really looking to see some consistency out of my boy
Speaker 1: Lamar Miller my fourteen time making the leap candidate. They're
Speaker 1: good run buck team and one for West too, and
Speaker 1: West had one in there. But I mean, he's shows flashes.
Speaker 1: I know he's not a running back, that it's a
Speaker 1: centerpiece of an offense, but when he's able to move
Speaker 1: the ball in the lines blocking for him, uhd Marius
Speaker 1: Thomas with the two touchdowns. I know he's not to
Speaker 1: Marrius Thomas anymore, but he's been a good enough, good
Speaker 1: enough number two so far since they got him. That
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins can do his thing. I think there's a
Speaker 1: lot of potential for this team to get better. Do
Speaker 1: you hear today's news, Dan what? There's a sandwich coming
Speaker 1: my way? Whatever the terms. Baker Mayfield offensive, Rookie of
Speaker 1: the month. Very nice sandwich just coming back to me
Speaker 1: from you. Unless Sam Donald gets healthy and becomes the
Speaker 1: player of the most stop it, it's not over yet.
Speaker 1: You got a month I got December, mighty, how dare
Speaker 1: you he's gonna get Rookie of the Month in December?
Speaker 1: Crazier things. Mayfield did that in three games too. We
Speaker 1: have three games in the number eight offense in the
Speaker 1: league since Week twelve, according to Football Tigers, And I
Speaker 1: think is it such an ideal situation with Bran I
Speaker 1: think the last year, I mean for a week eight bad.
Speaker 1: I think it's matchup for Deshaun Watson. Who that's your
Speaker 1: I think case for the Texans getting better. He's only
Speaker 1: started seventeen games in his career. He's coming off with
Speaker 1: torn a c L and he seems to be getting
Speaker 1: better and more comfortable every single week. And by the
Speaker 1: end of the year, who knows how well he could
Speaker 1: be playing. But you're going up against the Browns defense.
Speaker 1: Who they played. They don't rotate. They got about eleven
Speaker 1: guys who played fifty plus snaps last week, and they're
Speaker 1: all pretty solid guys. There's no weakness on this Brown's
Speaker 1: defense right now. I still want to do it. Do
Speaker 1: it now. They're pretty heavy under I did it, and
Speaker 1: I didn't want to create a civil war in the
Speaker 1: podcasts because I love them, But what about a little
Speaker 1: lock offs? Because civil war? This is why Mark though,
Speaker 1: You're like, please, let's do a lock off where I'm
Speaker 1: a touchdown underdog against an eight. They got team on
Speaker 1: an eight game winning streak at home that's to you. Guys,
Speaker 1: don't have to sit next spot Sundays. I will not
Speaker 1: be taking you on in a lock against the Browns. No,
Speaker 1: thank you. I I do find it funny that the
Speaker 1: lock creates more tension, and it's I think it has
Speaker 1: a lot more to do with the moods that people
Speaker 1: are in, I think from a Dan and Mark front,
Speaker 1: and even how our teams fair. Sometimes I've noticed that
Speaker 1: I thought about making, you know, putting a little rain
Speaker 1: here on the Brownies because I don't think the Texans
Speaker 1: would be favored by as much. But I'm not going
Speaker 1: to It's like a touchdown favorite. I'm not buying U. Plus,
Speaker 1: you already used this segment yesterday. You know that. Also,
Speaker 1: I mean you're you're trying to make up I'm not
Speaker 1: going to make rules for your segment. What a mess. Hey.
Speaker 1: We have now approached the halfway point of the two
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen Pro Bowl. Vote who writes the stuff? Erica? Honestly,
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Speaker 1: I do know who it. I do know who wrote
Speaker 1: that copy by way. Wow. I like what you did, though, Dan,
Speaker 1: You're you're honoring what is it Bartlett? No, it's not
Speaker 1: part It says it's someone who works under Bartlett and
Speaker 1: he has a nickname that includes the word spaghetti and
Speaker 1: it it's Eddie Spaghetti. Are you you're certain of that?
Speaker 1: We'll have to I like that you're you're honoring the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl by giving the same effort that like the
Speaker 1: offensive lineman given the first quarter of the Pro Bowl. There.
Speaker 1: Moving on the Colts six and five. They've won five straight.
Speaker 1: West can't stand up, and now they travel to Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: the big chlorine tank to phase the most pointing team
Speaker 1: in football. They've lost seven or seven in a row,
Speaker 1: eight out of nine. Mark Sessler the Jacksonville jagu Rs. Oh,
Speaker 1: the Colts look like they're set up to keep rolling
Speaker 1: and keep the heat on the Texans. Sure, why not?
Speaker 1: I do think they were fortunate to draw the Dolphins
Speaker 1: last week, a team that has zero ability to close
Speaker 1: because it is a game, or Randy Luck through two
Speaker 1: in or exceptions and lost a fumble. But they're a
Speaker 1: team that can overcome those mistakes. And the one thing
Speaker 1: I love about this year's Cults is that what's happening
Speaker 1: is you're getting like the best version of t Y
Speaker 1: Hilton we've gotten in a while. And they take players
Speaker 1: like an Eric Ebron and revived their careers in this offense,
Speaker 1: Like this guy's career was essentially over. It's an argument
Speaker 1: to trade these guys that are on team A where
Speaker 1: nothing's working after you drafted him and give him a
Speaker 1: new fresh start. I mean, because he was with Stafford
Speaker 1: and again the lines are so hard to figure out.
Speaker 1: You would have thought he was in a good place
Speaker 1: into thought who drafted him in the first round once
Speaker 1: upon a time, and it just never clicked. And he
Speaker 1: goes in plays with and I think he's the most
Speaker 1: productive stuff too. And I think when one thing the
Speaker 1: Patriots do well is in other great coaches and staff
Speaker 1: do they focus on what players do well. And I
Speaker 1: think Frank Reich has figured out what Ebron does well,
Speaker 1: and they're not trying to have him be a seventies
Speaker 1: snap a game, do everything tight end. They're just letting
Speaker 1: him do what he does in the red zone, jump exactly,
Speaker 1: and don't ask him to do other stuff because I
Speaker 1: mess U. They're doing a rough, Why Hilton? They're doing
Speaker 1: that with all the running backs's been great, It's been
Speaker 1: a rough. It's a mirror opposite of what the Jaguars
Speaker 1: are offering their fans right now. It's a it's a
Speaker 1: rough two thousand eighteen for the coutter. By the way,
Speaker 1: couldn't get Abron fix. Now we're realizing that. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know he's been unmasked for letter. No letter for Nett
Speaker 1: in this game was suspended. We did not mention in
Speaker 1: our last show. I don't believe, but I think that's
Speaker 1: a pretty big factor. He was running quite well, maybe
Speaker 1: the best that I think he's ever running in his
Speaker 1: brief time after coming back from the Hamps. And the
Speaker 1: Jaguars lost another offensive lineman last week Andrew Norwell. They're
Speaker 1: big signing is on I R now and their quarterback
Speaker 1: Cody Kessler is O and eight in his career and
Speaker 1: he's a game manager. You're asking him to do this
Speaker 1: without leanard four net and then on the other side
Speaker 1: of the ball, Jalen Ramsey not practicing yet this week.
Speaker 1: Doug Morone said he has a high level of concern
Speaker 1: over Ramsey's availability. You're getting a very banged up Jaguars. No,
Speaker 1: you can't. I could not look in the mirror this
Speaker 1: Jaguars team not to mention the he could. I think
Speaker 1: I cannot because because of the Jaguar what it's worth.
Speaker 1: I mean it, because of their locker room. I'm not
Speaker 1: trusting the Colts as a a guaranteed win any week.
Speaker 1: I thought that last week on the road feels the
Speaker 1: same way. It's a division it's a division game. They
Speaker 1: just played each other. At the moment, they just played
Speaker 1: each other. It's very tight. They could lose this game,
Speaker 1: and they're banged up themselves. They lost Jack Doyle, who's
Speaker 1: a very good tight no healthy tight end. Marlon Mack
Speaker 1: is in the concussion protocol. He practiced fully on Thursday,
Speaker 1: but he still has the game clearance. Losing Jack Doyle
Speaker 1: is significant. Everyone around the team said he was a
Speaker 1: great run blocker, one of the like all the receivers
Speaker 1: run block well. They have a running game. Indianapolis I
Speaker 1: want to say I'm sorry to West and Uh the
Speaker 1: Nahem's Nahim Heinz family because I was really dogging him.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if I did it on the podcast,
Speaker 1: but we were, we were having conversations and and I
Speaker 1: was wrong about Nahim. You don't trust you don't trust
Speaker 1: moo Ali Cox to step up into the tight end
Speaker 1: role and place health nih Hines made last week on
Speaker 1: the run. That's that's partly why wanted to apologize as
Speaker 1: just like, I'm sorry I wronged this band. It's fun.
Speaker 1: I have a quick statement for the subreddit. Can we
Speaker 1: get the missive music? Um? If you want to be
Speaker 1: recognized by this podcast in the picks challenge the lock
Speaker 1: It Up Picks challenge subreddit around the NFL, do me
Speaker 1: one favor. Go to your local home depot or any
Speaker 1: bed bathroom beyond and purchase yourself a mirror. Why but
Speaker 1: you can't put it because they pick last. From my understanding,
Speaker 1: they've been picking the cults. Well a reg Hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's just just a mirror. Then you can get
Speaker 1: a cheap one. You get one of those stand up
Speaker 1: ones that you put right against your closet door, or
Speaker 1: you know what are your bedroom door and you close it.
Speaker 1: I was asking, why what are the games I wanted here?
Speaker 1: They locked up the cults against the dolphins, and they
Speaker 1: came in me and I love the subreddit, but like
Speaker 1: they have said, you know, shove it, sess because I said,
Speaker 1: whoever locks up the cults, I would assassinate them. You
Speaker 1: simply cannot lock up the cults. You know, you buy
Speaker 1: a mirror and you look at yourself. When you create
Speaker 1: a game without rules, it's anarchy. Just make it seven points.
Speaker 1: I mean, they have a better record than you. Can't
Speaker 1: take it. And everyone. You couldn't have taken the cults
Speaker 1: last week, by the way, that would have just to
Speaker 1: buy a mirror and looking at one. That's all. That's
Speaker 1: a simple don't get caught up over the rules. Just
Speaker 1: just get a mirror. Yeah, I mean, what is this
Speaker 1: the rule? You're you know, six year old soccer, no rules,
Speaker 1: just kicking around. And I love the subreddit. You guys
Speaker 1: are loyal and everything, but it's they're wonderful mirror throughout life. Greg,
Speaker 1: Often you have to just sit down and take a
Speaker 1: long look in the mirror and evaluate, and the subreddit
Speaker 1: needs to The Buffalo Bills four and seven. They've won
Speaker 1: two straight. Good job them, and what was shaping up
Speaker 1: is a historic terrible season. Uh, maybe it won't be
Speaker 1: great in terms of when it comes draft time. Maybe
Speaker 1: winning these games is not the best thing that could
Speaker 1: have happened. Uh to uh the team from Orchard Park.
Speaker 1: But they're showing a little pluck at four and seven.
Speaker 1: Now they head to Miami to face the Dolphins, and
Speaker 1: and again, thank you, thank you to the Colts and
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck for doing God's work keeping the Dolphins from
Speaker 1: moving to six and five and staying uh square in
Speaker 1: the middle of the playoff picture. Instead, they're five and
Speaker 1: six and really all but cooked Chris Westling. Uh so
Speaker 1: this is kind of two a f C East also
Speaker 1: rans unless Dolphins went out. Thank you for throwing this
Speaker 1: game my way. Uh. These two teams. My favorite metric
Speaker 1: for offense is drive success rate. These two teams are
Speaker 1: twenty nine and thirty this year, and that's about how
Speaker 1: they play. When you watch him on TV, they're they're
Speaker 1: pretty unwatchable. Josh Allen is fun. Um. I wonder if
Speaker 1: we'll ever learned to throw with touch. But one way
Speaker 1: to evaluate running quarterbacks is to treat their runs as
Speaker 1: passes to themselves and then put that in the stat line.
Speaker 1: And if you do that, Josh Allen had an awesome
Speaker 1: game list week, ninety yards rushing. He has a dynamic
Speaker 1: athlete fund to watch except when he's just throwing the
Speaker 1: ball like a hundred miles an hour into the dirt.
Speaker 1: But had about three or four throws that were pretty awesome. Yeah, phenomenal.
Speaker 1: And on a chance, it's like, how do you even
Speaker 1: evaluate Ryan Tannehill when they won't let him pass on
Speaker 1: third and ten and his offensive line and wide receiver
Speaker 1: corps are ravaged by injuries. I don't even know. I
Speaker 1: don't at this point, I don't know. I want him
Speaker 1: to be a quarterback much longer. And there's all this
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill is going to finish the season with the
Speaker 1: best completion percentage of his career. If I hear a
Speaker 1: single no, it's the static he's throwing around about Tannehill,
Speaker 1: because there are these like pro Tannehill guys that are
Speaker 1: people that want to tell you how great that No,
Speaker 1: tanne more than you realize, And it's like, no, it's
Speaker 1: at straw then on the kissing cousin side, No, No, No,
Speaker 1: there are and there are there because people not the
Speaker 1: third intent. At the end of the the last game, the
Speaker 1: drive before it was also a third intent and they
Speaker 1: ran the ball. It's third in Tannehill, that's like what
Speaker 1: what it is? It's like third, not we came. Kenny
Speaker 1: Still has had some comments today. The most telling, I
Speaker 1: think was he said, I can tell you I'm getting open.
Speaker 1: I can't tell you why I'm not getting more targets.
Speaker 1: He has a hundred and eight yards over his last
Speaker 1: six games. DeVante Parker was out there last week, Stills
Speaker 1: was out there. And they're not going to their wide receivers.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you know what the reason is.
Speaker 1: Mike Kasiki is not turned into a good draft pick.
Speaker 1: I know it's early, but you can tell sometimes and
Speaker 1: it's not a great sign that Cameron Wake is still
Speaker 1: their best defensive player. Like every year, I've made that
Speaker 1: point around this time of year on the podcast, like
Speaker 1: the alright, but on one of them, the people, I
Speaker 1: mean they have I think that Kenyan Drake played a
Speaker 1: nice game, you know before the wheel now, but they
Speaker 1: might win this game and then they're six and six
Speaker 1: and they're tied for you know whatever, if the pack
Speaker 1: for five and six. We would be freaking out in
Speaker 1: this studio. So you want to hear something funny. A
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, there was a on camera talent
Speaker 1: um personality for NFL Network that had it close ties
Speaker 1: to Kenny Stills and uh. In the newsroom, Greg made
Speaker 1: a disparaging comment about Stills and it resulted in a
Speaker 1: back and forth, a loud argument, going back and forth.
Speaker 1: It was uncomfortable Greg and this individual that got to
Speaker 1: the point where I'm not gonna say you needed to
Speaker 1: be separated, but there were separate meetings to talk to
Speaker 1: both of you about well, he was taken out of
Speaker 1: the news room. You were You were in the right,
Speaker 1: You were in the right, as I recall, and this
Speaker 1: man got so hot about you making a negative comment
Speaker 1: about his friend, his boy, Kenny Stills, that the whole
Speaker 1: newsroom shut down. It went one of my favorite NFL medium.
Speaker 1: It went on and on, and then actually it went
Speaker 1: on and on, and he was taken out of the newsroom,
Speaker 1: and then someone a shot a weak figure came back
Speaker 1: in and like saw that there was like a few
Speaker 1: embers still on the ground, like lit another match, and
Speaker 1: then it restarted again. It was skilland a problem. At
Speaker 1: one point, the guys said, I will challenge you to
Speaker 1: an open debate. That would I guess if you put
Speaker 1: on the internet and you know I'll do that. I
Speaker 1: don't care. I don't want to do that. No, I said,
Speaker 1: I end just getting it more and more angry. I
Speaker 1: was proud of my response, which was, I could you know,
Speaker 1: I can see in retrospect wildly annoying. But I said,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's something people would be interested in.
Speaker 1: He wanted he wanted to have an open debate about
Speaker 1: Kenny Stills. By the way, Kenny Stills. He was in
Speaker 1: the right on some level because Kenny Stills had a
Speaker 1: great year. The next year, He's had a pretty nice career,
Speaker 1: got a nice second contract there. I said, it was
Speaker 1: skill brand. I don't even think this man is you
Speaker 1: gotta take that out. You gotta take that out. We
Speaker 1: gotta keep it all mysterious. Let's move on. Let's see.
Speaker 1: I was never gonna say it, but this is exactly
Speaker 1: what I wanted you to think. That it could come
Speaker 1: out and then you would have to make edit because
Speaker 1: we're being Yeah, I don't want to be a jerk.
Speaker 1: On another another time, say no more I'm saying everything.
Speaker 1: I was already a jerk. Last time, let's not double back.
Speaker 1: And one last point, Josh Allen, he had to do
Speaker 1: a couple of kneel downs and it cost him a
Speaker 1: hundred yard rushing game. Rule change, make that a team
Speaker 1: rushing negative. You'll agree with that. Individuals just don't count it.
Speaker 1: I agree. I saw something that Brady leads the NFL,
Speaker 1: and it was like it was a ridiculous amount of
Speaker 1: kneel downs over two hundred Give him back his his
Speaker 1: rushing yards games over. At that point, you don't have
Speaker 1: to account for the stack. Gil was so angry. I
Speaker 1: could not believe I kill Gil is so composed typically
Speaker 1: that it was. It was a really hard mean It's
Speaker 1: funny you say that, because Gil really was really angry
Speaker 1: at me one other time, really ten years ago, I'm
Speaker 1: sure before before I worked there. What's so, what's the
Speaker 1: common thread the denominator here that seems to be occurring
Speaker 1: over and over. It might be greg Or you know
Speaker 1: reporters who now for that was uncalled for, But you
Speaker 1: come at me, what do you expect? That's ridiculous? The
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears person didn't. That's a hall of famer man, Oh,
Speaker 1: I love Gil. You know, Chicago Bears are eight and three. Uh,
Speaker 1: they are the team of around the NFL, and they
Speaker 1: deserve the credit because they are. They've won five in
Speaker 1: a row and um, I was really impressed on eighty
Speaker 1: five hours rest. They went into Detroit on Thanksgiving, took
Speaker 1: care of business, a well earned mini by for our Bears,
Speaker 1: and now they get to go to the Meadowlands. And
Speaker 1: good timing too because of the Giants find a way
Speaker 1: to hold on against the Eagles. Greg. Uh, they are
Speaker 1: on a three game winning streak and maybe the New
Speaker 1: York media is a little over excited, but in the
Speaker 1: lock room, they would certainly feel they were still alive
Speaker 1: in the NFC East. But you wonder if the air
Speaker 1: goes out of the balloon after that loss. I don't
Speaker 1: think they'll try less, but I do agree that it's
Speaker 1: a beautiful schedule setting up for the Bears that the
Speaker 1: two starts they're getting with Chase Daniel and Chase Daniel
Speaker 1: is expected to start in this game. According to Mike Garafolo,
Speaker 1: are against the Lions and the Giants. I mean that
Speaker 1: that is perfect. That's like a football gods, like, hey,
Speaker 1: you're having a good season. Let's let Chase Daniels start
Speaker 1: against two lackluster defenses in games that we're gonna have
Speaker 1: a chance to win on the road. Because even though
Speaker 1: his numbers were solid, they were misleading. He missed throws
Speaker 1: accuracy wise, and he really missed just seeing the field.
Speaker 1: I think he's a fine backup, uh and he gives
Speaker 1: him a chance to win this game. But if they
Speaker 1: do in this game, it's another reminder what a what
Speaker 1: a star Matt Naggi has been, what how key, what
Speaker 1: a great hire he has been, and winning games with
Speaker 1: Chase Daniel and you know Trabsky earlier in the season
Speaker 1: when he was struggling, like creating yards for those guys
Speaker 1: and creating open receivers, he's done. Nastin never talked about
Speaker 1: as a coach of the year. I think you should
Speaker 1: be in there. I agree with you, and like the
Speaker 1: window with Chase Daniel though, is perfect, assuming it ends
Speaker 1: this week, because after this you have the Rams and
Speaker 1: the Packers, which is going to that's a rough two
Speaker 1: games stretch for the Bears. I don't think this Giants
Speaker 1: is expected to be bad. I don't think that, but
Speaker 1: we've heard that for about this week too. No, he
Speaker 1: really is expected to be back this time. Let's go
Speaker 1: above Naggie. I did Executives of the Year candidates this
Speaker 1: this week, and Pace is number one. Ryan Pace, Chris
Speaker 1: ballad right there at the top. The Saints duo of
Speaker 1: Jeff Ireland and Mickey Loomis are in the running. You
Speaker 1: can put Andy Reid and Brett Beach in there. I
Speaker 1: don't know if Ireland people tried, they couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you mentioned like I don't know
Speaker 1: if it was a Pace decision or a Naggy decision,
Speaker 1: but to keep Vic Fangio, if he kind of made
Speaker 1: the incoming coach do that, like that was so key.
Speaker 1: I like what Vick Vangio he was. What advice would
Speaker 1: he give his defensive players for stopping Odell Beckham Jr.
Speaker 1: And he said go to Mass Saturday night. Funny, Um,
Speaker 1: you have something, No, I just I one lasting. I
Speaker 1: do wonder sometimes the whole patch schirmer Head coaching experience.
Speaker 1: I I don't know how long this is gonna drive.
Speaker 1: I don't think Giants are as bad as a record.
Speaker 1: This is not a I'm not I'm a little worried
Speaker 1: about them with Chase Daniel as the starter on the road.
Speaker 1: I think the Giants are about the same as the
Speaker 1: rest of the NFC East teams. The Panthers or six
Speaker 1: and five, which wouldn't seem too bad, but then you
Speaker 1: remember three weeks ago they were six and two. Three
Speaker 1: nailed it, three game losing streak. Another disappointing loss, this
Speaker 1: one at home. You know, road losses you could sometimes understand,
Speaker 1: especially Pittsburgh, even though that was a blowout. The loss
Speaker 1: in Detroit was a tough one, but it was a
Speaker 1: one point game and the two point conversion attempt at
Speaker 1: the end, so it was a little bit tricky. Uh.
Speaker 1: The Seattle loss is just a killer because they should
Speaker 1: have won that football game, and you wonder if there's
Speaker 1: something wrong Mark Sessler. Luckily they get a stinker of
Speaker 1: a team in the Bucks, but they are coming off
Speaker 1: a win as well, so they might be feeling a
Speaker 1: little good about himself after a long losing streak. Goes
Speaker 1: in the rear view mirror. It's a weird time to
Speaker 1: do this, but I have to somewhat soften my stance
Speaker 1: on the Panthers, where I had expressed utter disbelief, because
Speaker 1: you look at that Seahawks game, and what I saw
Speaker 1: was the most exciting Panthers offense that I've watched in
Speaker 1: a long time. That they are incredibly uh their speed based.
Speaker 1: I think the Christian McCaffrey and Cam Newton in that
Speaker 1: game just there are moments of game flow where they
Speaker 1: are rumbling down the field against Seattle, and I love
Speaker 1: what you have with d J. Moore, And I do
Speaker 1: think this here's a thing. You can't dismiss them entirely
Speaker 1: without dismissing the entire NFC East, which I happily would
Speaker 1: do except one of them are going to get into
Speaker 1: the playoffs. And I think that game was on a
Speaker 1: defense that's not what it was, and it's on uh
Speaker 1: a hideous afternoon by Graham Gono where things just yeah,
Speaker 1: they should have won that game exactly. And the inability
Speaker 1: to pick up one yard when they need to write,
Speaker 1: which is that happens, which is important though that's an
Speaker 1: important football scale pick up a yard. You had three
Speaker 1: or four different different chances in that game where if
Speaker 1: you pick up a yard you win the game. I
Speaker 1: did not love their places them from a team from
Speaker 1: a team that cut its inside runner. C. J. Anderson
Speaker 1: I I just wish I love watching camp play, and
Speaker 1: you're right, it's a it's the best Panthers often. I
Speaker 1: just wish they were with the Panthers defensive two because
Speaker 1: that team, if you put this offense with one of
Speaker 1: those defenses, that team is in the mix for the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Let's move on. So the next game, got
Speaker 1: a lot of games, Get two, fellas, gotta keep moving.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs nine and two. Uh yeah, they took the
Speaker 1: l put up fifty one and still lost. I don't
Speaker 1: think that's ever happened before. So uh uh. They had
Speaker 1: a week to think about that. They had their buy
Speaker 1: and now here's their get healthy game, the Oakland Raiders.
Speaker 1: They go to the black hole. The Raiders stink, they
Speaker 1: can't play ball. Chris Westling and the Chiefs are gonna
Speaker 1: beat them by seven points. Yes, how how can anybody
Speaker 1: have any problem with that statement? You watch Matt Judean
Speaker 1: get three sacks in a row against one of the
Speaker 1: worst right tackles in the nf fell and now d
Speaker 1: Ford's coming in there to face the same right tackle.
Speaker 1: Or Chaz Green, who the Raiders signed this week, who
Speaker 1: might even play, who knows? But this you you can't
Speaker 1: protect David uh Derek Carr and the wide receivers that
Speaker 1: they're running out right now with being banged up. You
Speaker 1: can't evaluate this guy. This is the most broken offense,
Speaker 1: is the most block team. I can't remember such a
Speaker 1: nothing burger team this early in the season. You run
Speaker 1: an end around, there's not many players. They're depressing. They're
Speaker 1: running end arounds with a thirty three year old Jordy
Speaker 1: Nelson on a bum knee and he can't beat anyone
Speaker 1: to the corner. A defensive lineman he can't beat to
Speaker 1: the corner. You know, you get like when you hear
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper say they they weren't using me the way
Speaker 1: that I would have used me a lot. You always
Speaker 1: hear players say that a lot of times it's a
Speaker 1: bunch of nonsense. But with when it comes to the Raiders,
Speaker 1: it's absolutely true. And what it's such an indictment on
Speaker 1: Jon Gruden Beyond all the essentially tanking like there there
Speaker 1: we should be seeing competent coaching. Well, how about a
Speaker 1: guy like Karl Joseph who was a first round pick
Speaker 1: and was benched earlier in the year and now is
Speaker 1: one of the best defensive players It's like, why was
Speaker 1: I know he was injured for a while, but it's
Speaker 1: like he was in the dog almost they were gonna
Speaker 1: almost cut him. The most significant development to me in
Speaker 1: this game and this week was Eric Barry returning to
Speaker 1: practice for the Chiefs. I mean you, you just don't
Speaker 1: know what kind of player he could be when he returns.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be this week, but
Speaker 1: it's been a year and a half since we've seen him.
Speaker 1: One of the best defensive players in the league. What
Speaker 1: a what an addition he could be to that team
Speaker 1: if he's anywhere near his old his old status. That's
Speaker 1: just one of those games. Let's pick this game. Well,
Speaker 1: this is one of those games where like a beat
Speaker 1: writer be like, if they lose to the Raiders, I'll
Speaker 1: walk back to Kansas City from Oakland. But um, I
Speaker 1: will not do it. I will go Chiefs ten to nine.
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Speaker 1: All right, Greg, you're on the read next week. But
Speaker 1: you're doing great West It's very fun. We yeah, we
Speaker 1: interrupted you. Uh. The Jayman, the new York Jets are
Speaker 1: three and eight. Uh, they're the riding a five game
Speaker 1: losing streak, and now they head to Nashville to face
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titoons, who once upon a time some people
Speaker 1: took seriously. I don't know if that's the case anymore,
Speaker 1: because they couldn't beat the Colts on the road, they
Speaker 1: could not beat the Texans on the road, and as
Speaker 1: a result, they're now five and six and in dire straits. Uh.
Speaker 1: The good news uh here Greg is that the Jets
Speaker 1: are as forgettable and bland as any team in football
Speaker 1: right now, and might not even have um uh Sam
Speaker 1: Donald back for this week, but we will see. It
Speaker 1: looks like it's gonna come down the wire. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: in the way McCown played last week, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know if they'd have a better or or worst.
Speaker 1: It's the wind. McCown looks fine. He looked kind of
Speaker 1: back to being the normalm accoun last week. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: The Titans are the a f C. S packers, though
Speaker 1: they've kind of shown us that they're a mediocre team,
Speaker 1: but their schedule is so incredibly easy. We're gonna be
Speaker 1: talking about them. I mean, yes, they could stub their toe.
Speaker 1: But their next three weeks are Jets at home, Jags
Speaker 1: at home, Giants on the road, so that they'll lose
Speaker 1: one of those, they got a chance and even terrible
Speaker 1: on the road. Right they have one of those on
Speaker 1: the road, and it's against the Giants. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: they have the easiest schedule in the league period. Four
Speaker 1: out of five at home. The last two are are
Speaker 1: tougher Redskins and Colts. But those aren't, you know, world beaters,
Speaker 1: and they I just think over the next I'm saying,
Speaker 1: over the next couple of weeks, Jets, Jags, don't talk
Speaker 1: about the Colts, Jets. We'll see where they are in
Speaker 1: week seventeen. I mean, I hope you're right, but I'm
Speaker 1: I don't think. I'm not just pencil And then in Jets,
Speaker 1: Jags and Giants. You know, it just wouldn't surprise me
Speaker 1: if Mariota and who's been playing a little better overall,
Speaker 1: I would say, figure they figure out a way to
Speaker 1: coach up and win these those games. That's it. And
Speaker 1: then they're eight and six in a in a pretty
Speaker 1: crowded race. This is a team that has so much
Speaker 1: more energy at home than it does on the road.
Speaker 1: You can't expect him to go into the Giants in
Speaker 1: three weeks and win. I mean, I know you love
Speaker 1: that schedule, but I agree that there they'll trip up something.
Speaker 1: And they don't have They don't have much going on.
Speaker 1: They have Corey Davis is their one receiver. They like
Speaker 1: have no one they can count on after that. They
Speaker 1: don't have a running game. Dion Lewis is a great player,
Speaker 1: I think, but they don't really run in We saw
Speaker 1: it again on Monday. I'll use the line again. It's
Speaker 1: a dred and twenty yard field, the tender re incline.
Speaker 1: Watching them try to move the ball down the field,
Speaker 1: it's a tough watch. They need to be more dynamic.
Speaker 1: And Marcus Mariota has one of the great statistical games
Speaker 1: in terms of accuracy ever. But at any point in
Speaker 1: that game where you're like, oh, the Titans are dangerous,
Speaker 1: it was like the most It was very much Mariota
Speaker 1: in a nutshell because the stats are good. You saw
Speaker 1: the nice midrange throws, and yet he, unlike Watson, I
Speaker 1: don't think handles pressure as well. He's not. He's not
Speaker 1: using his feet as well, certainly as Watson and so
Speaker 1: you're just sort of wanting a little more. Why are
Speaker 1: you throwing the ball forty five times with Josh McCown
Speaker 1: because their offensive coordinator is not good? You know that
Speaker 1: that checks out. I need no for they move. You
Speaker 1: know they moved the ball, okay again, but why so
Speaker 1: conservative with Donald? And then you get done, you're thrown
Speaker 1: Let Donald flinging around that way when he's in there.
Speaker 1: Come on, in general, the idea that you would throw
Speaker 1: it that much with McCown. It's just with me with
Speaker 1: the Jets, and I love the Jets with all my heart.
Speaker 1: But as long as McCown's playing, and there's really nothing
Speaker 1: to talk about, they just they just they're just gonna
Speaker 1: exist here. I have one point on the Jets. What
Speaker 1: is it to talk about that penalty? People always talk
Speaker 1: about penalties. You gotta you can't take. Penalties are overrated.
Speaker 1: The Jets lead the league in the fewest amount of penalties.
Speaker 1: That's how much not having penalties? Well, I guess it's
Speaker 1: more like if there were two equal teams, if you're
Speaker 1: a trash bag team. Over the course of the season,
Speaker 1: a lot of great teams have a lot of great
Speaker 1: lot of I would not mind the Jets are still
Speaker 1: hanging in the periphery for the number one pick. I
Speaker 1: would not mind if they lost all or most of
Speaker 1: these games down the stretch. And if if I somehow
Speaker 1: can get Donald to have, you know, get back on
Speaker 1: the field and look good, that you could have best
Speaker 1: of both worlds. But I'm just annoyed that that's my
Speaker 1: best case scenario again here. But you could also trade
Speaker 1: the first pick and get a bounty and start rebuilding
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Speaker 1: last whistling the Minnesota Vikings six four and one. They
Speaker 1: beat the Packers at home last week, a big win
Speaker 1: uh in their quest to get back to the playoffs. Uh.
Speaker 1: And now here's a big test. They go to Foxborough,
Speaker 1: the throne of ease, the Pats, who uh again beat
Speaker 1: up on an a f C East foe the Jets
Speaker 1: that last week. So they're eight and three, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, here they are locked in as as
Speaker 1: things stand at the number two pick marks the number
Speaker 1: two spot in the a f C playoff. Picture your
Speaker 1: thoughts on this game. It's a good one. It is
Speaker 1: and it's it's you know, I feel like with the
Speaker 1: Vikings because I kind of find myself to be a
Speaker 1: bit of a like a pocket Vikings fan. I incorrectly
Speaker 1: lauded them for a team of a t L two
Speaker 1: years ago and never heard the end of it last year,
Speaker 1: thought that they were the team we could have seen
Speaker 1: them play at homelessly the voices in your mind that
Speaker 1: you can't hear the end of it from right, Well,
Speaker 1: that's fair. But I mean you're six four and one,
Speaker 1: and I don't know how excited I should be that
Speaker 1: you beat Green Bay because you know how I feel
Speaker 1: about them. This is the game where how do you
Speaker 1: feel about the Packers? I mean, we just rewind twenty
Speaker 1: one minutes. We've been through it. But if listen, if
Speaker 1: you want to turn heads and have I think this
Speaker 1: would be the game where if you're Minnesota and you
Speaker 1: want people to start to buy in, and you want
Speaker 1: to tell yourselves, we can buy into ourselves that you
Speaker 1: go and beat a Patriots team that I find to
Speaker 1: be less than invincible. I I was not like overwhelmed invincible.
Speaker 1: They're invincible. I was not overwhelmed with that Jets performance
Speaker 1: at all. Not I feel the same way like I
Speaker 1: feel like Greg had some takeaway like the Patriots are back.
Speaker 1: That was an impressive game and it's tied thirty third.
Speaker 1: Course that was not my take away. It was some
Speaker 1: underlying things that I think are positive with the team.
Speaker 1: That they're essentially healthy and the parts of the team
Speaker 1: that I want to come together, especially offensively. That they're healthy,
Speaker 1: they can start getting some continuity, and you saw something.
Speaker 1: It was their best pass rushing game for what it's
Speaker 1: worth all season. I'd like to see some things like
Speaker 1: Brady to do his trademark stuff. They get the ball
Speaker 1: right before halftime. Can you do a ninety eight yard
Speaker 1: drive and do your trademark thing where you score right
Speaker 1: before the half and then score coming out of the half,
Speaker 1: And they couldn't do it. To me, that was a test,
Speaker 1: and I didn't see him pass. I'm with you. I
Speaker 1: mean the Vikings. You know, it's they haven't the whole
Speaker 1: thing all your long, and they're not the defense from
Speaker 1: last year, but they right now lead the league in
Speaker 1: sacks per game, and they lead the league in allowing
Speaker 1: the fewest big plays. I like that against New England
Speaker 1: because if you got a little bit of a better
Speaker 1: Brady Tom Brady version against the Jets just because they
Speaker 1: couldn't do anything get in his face and disrupt him.
Speaker 1: Pause chaos for New England. I think what a great
Speaker 1: matchup up front on both sides. I think it's a
Speaker 1: great test for both these teams too. For the Patriots
Speaker 1: offensive line, who's had a lot of injuries at tackle,
Speaker 1: but they're healthy right now. It's a pretty good run
Speaker 1: blocking group. Can they push Lindvold, Joseph and Sheldon Richardson around?
Speaker 1: Can they protect Brady? Uh? And then on the other side,
Speaker 1: as I said, the Patriots pass rush I had their
Speaker 1: best game of the year. Can they get after Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1: I think it's it. I'm really excited for this. Gilmore
Speaker 1: versus the You're gonna a lot of good matchups, and
Speaker 1: I think the Patriots do respond at home and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna lock it up. Let me uh, let me speak
Speaker 1: on that as well, greg Um. The Patriots from about
Speaker 1: week I don't have the stats, but I can tell
Speaker 1: you it's gonna be closed from week thirteen through seventeen.
Speaker 1: Going back in the last decade or so, they're probably
Speaker 1: playing in the neighborhood of eight eight fifty ball maybe better.
Speaker 1: And uh and I need a win in the worst
Speaker 1: way in this lock competition of three games out, got it.
Speaker 1: I'm in almost win out territory here. Uh So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put myself in a no lose situation. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: lock up. The Patriots take care of business at home
Speaker 1: against the Bikes because they always do this time of year.
Speaker 1: And if it works against me, hey, yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: good way to And you're happy, yeah, you, But which
Speaker 1: would you? I almost feel like you would rather the
Speaker 1: Patriots when it comes down to it, and and there's
Speaker 1: thirty seconds left in the game, and and the Vikings
Speaker 1: are lining up for a field goal. You're hoping that
Speaker 1: goes into winter? Yeah? Absolutely, And it's not even close.
Speaker 1: Patriots do average almost fifteen more points per game at
Speaker 1: home than on the road. Everything you guys have been, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they they're undefeated at home, not been good on the road.
Speaker 1: Everything you're saying that this isn't the same Patriots team,
Speaker 1: it's absolutely supported in every analytics. They have their lowest
Speaker 1: el rating, which is five thirty eight. We have been
Speaker 1: since two thousand nine. Orchestra they're they're eight third. I
Speaker 1: think they're eighth or ninth in Football Outsiders. So I
Speaker 1: think that's the funny thing, is like, yeah, they're not
Speaker 1: the same Patriots, but they're also a super Bowl there
Speaker 1: in the mix too. I am no longer jealous about
Speaker 1: the whole Josh Gordon situation because he does not look
Speaker 1: to me like the Josh Gordon of old. He's he's
Speaker 1: huge though for their team. It's good good for that.
Speaker 1: I just don't miss him the same way that I know.
Speaker 1: He's not the guy that he was, but he last
Speaker 1: week especially, I thought he was a little more integrated
Speaker 1: into the offense, and I like what I saw, not
Speaker 1: what you were looking for. The responses there was it.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's their number one. Mark wanted to you
Speaker 1: guys to be like, yeah, he's so we've been saying,
Speaker 1: he is not the same guy. Edleman. Edleman looks good
Speaker 1: to me, looks fast. If you want to feel better
Speaker 1: about the Browns Patriots trains, just look at Danny Shelton
Speaker 1: this year. What a bust that guy has been so there.
Speaker 1: I could have told you that I would like to
Speaker 1: see Baker Mayfield with Josh Gordon. I still don't think,
Speaker 1: oh no, no doubt, but it's it's just that it's
Speaker 1: not like he's lighting up. I'm sure he'll probably be
Speaker 1: like the Super Bowl m v P two months, six
Speaker 1: weeks from now. He's a good starting receiver San Francisco.
Speaker 1: For to Diners are two and nine. Um like the Jets,
Speaker 1: it's kind of just a matter of get your draft
Speaker 1: positioning and you know, get your quarterback on the field.
Speaker 1: For the Niners, w won't happen until next September with
Speaker 1: Jimmy GE's knee injury. There on the road against the Seahawks,
Speaker 1: who after doing great work in the last two weeks,
Speaker 1: uh West again, first against the Packers, uh then last
Speaker 1: week stealing one from the Panthers. Panthers on the road.
Speaker 1: Here's a well earned cupcake at home. Oh, this is
Speaker 1: a legit cupcake. The forty Niners are not a good team.
Speaker 1: Their old line got whooped last week by Vita Vea
Speaker 1: and company. Vitave I had like three or four and
Speaker 1: Vita veas what Danny Shelton wanted to be exactly. Without
Speaker 1: Pierre Garson and and Marquis Goodwin, You're you're asking Nick
Speaker 1: Mowins to throw behind the league offensive line to like
Speaker 1: a trio if slot receivers, this offense is shot right now.
Speaker 1: Outside of Matt Brita and George kittle Um and and honestly,
Speaker 1: I don't know what. They don't have much to build
Speaker 1: on that would The drafts haven't been good now. This
Speaker 1: is like the week of rackoning for John Lynch, and
Speaker 1: I think I think it's early to go too crazy
Speaker 1: about it, but he's taken heat and he deserves it.
Speaker 1: I'll stand behind Shanahan as a great coach in a
Speaker 1: great offensive. Absolutely if you lose him, people will line
Speaker 1: up to get him. And uh, Teahawks really miss kJ right.
Speaker 1: This is not a game that I think it matters,
Speaker 1: but I'm sick of them waiting to like follow behind
Speaker 1: to try to win the game, and by throwing it's
Speaker 1: like you don't have to fall behind by run run
Speaker 1: pass for the first two quarters to do that. I
Speaker 1: I do think that that that Panthers Seahawks game was
Speaker 1: was fun to watch, and that the Russell Wilson performance
Speaker 1: was one of the best in a long time. And
Speaker 1: even though I thought all you're like all the Seahawks
Speaker 1: are kind of trying to make something on offense where
Speaker 1: they don't have all the parts like they felt weapons
Speaker 1: rich at times last week against the Panthers. Tyler Lockett
Speaker 1: Matt Harmon's boy finally having his breakout. You're a lot
Speaker 1: of fun to watch. Let's move on Sunday night football.
Speaker 1: Here's a good one. Speaking of a reckoning, this is
Speaker 1: it the Charger. This is what we've been waiting for
Speaker 1: with the Superchargers. Here's the test. They're eight and three.
Speaker 1: They had that hiccup against Denver two weeks ago, but
Speaker 1: then they beat up on a bad Cardinals team. They're
Speaker 1: eight and three. They have a chance, uh outside chance
Speaker 1: to win their division. Uh. And if they did that,
Speaker 1: they could get up by and then who knows what's
Speaker 1: what happens. But here's your test. The Pittsburgh Steelers seven
Speaker 1: three and one. Uh. They are in their own building, Greg,
Speaker 1: they're at Hines and they're also coming off a disappointing loss. Uh.
Speaker 1: Where do you stand in this game? Who are you
Speaker 1: feeling good about this week? I? Like you am so excited.
Speaker 1: This is what I've been waiting for. As like, we've
Speaker 1: been rooting on the Chargers here for a while, I
Speaker 1: mean in the studio for three or four years to
Speaker 1: get to a point where they're legitimately at this level
Speaker 1: for a big game. They're gonna be in primetime three
Speaker 1: of the next four weeks. Right, they didn't put themselves
Speaker 1: behind I don't feel like yeah, and I don't feel
Speaker 1: a strong um inclination that they're better than the Steelers.
Speaker 1: I probably I think the Steelers are a little bit
Speaker 1: better of a team and that they're at home. So
Speaker 1: if I had to choose, I would take them. But
Speaker 1: I do look to Philip Rivers sometimes for wisdom. And
Speaker 1: he talked. He wears his hat every week. He talks
Speaker 1: about it a lot. And it says, uh says nunca
Speaker 1: che a and that's Latin, but he says that's how
Speaker 1: he says it. That's a Georgia way to say it.
Speaker 1: And it's from the Bible, and it says, begin again,
Speaker 1: after every interception, begin again, after every touchdown, Begin again.
Speaker 1: And I've been just like watching this Chargers team finally
Speaker 1: try to put the past behind them, and they're living
Speaker 1: in the moment. And Chargers fans, the one that have
Speaker 1: stuck around, you know, nunca chep a, begin again. Let's
Speaker 1: make a new Chargers you know tradition in Los Angeles
Speaker 1: and win some of these tough games on the road.
Speaker 1: I want to see it. I thought you're about to
Speaker 1: start a rain dance. Oh, a new tradition in laws. Ang,
Speaker 1: I don't winning on the road like, well, that's where
Speaker 1: they're at their best. I just mean, like with this, forget,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what complete in a row, right, not
Speaker 1: worrying about what happened. Forget about what happened in the
Speaker 1: past with this Chargers team. This is a new team
Speaker 1: and it's really talented, and Joey bos is playing great.
Speaker 1: I I don't know if they're better than the Steelers are,
Speaker 1: not to know, I'm not. I think they can get
Speaker 1: over the loss of Melvin Gordon and the for a
Speaker 1: week or two. You know, there's a there's a narrative
Speaker 1: out there that the Broncos game plan worked against the
Speaker 1: Steelers offense that had five thirty yards uh Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: over threw Jalen Samuels on a trick play that should
Speaker 1: have been a touchdown. Xavier Grimble lost a football a
Speaker 1: fumble that should have been a touchdown. Ben Over threw
Speaker 1: Juju Smith Schuster wide open on a deep ball. James
Speaker 1: Washington dove for a ball that he could have scored
Speaker 1: standing up if he would have just ran through the ball.
Speaker 1: They left over a hundred yards and twenty points on
Speaker 1: the field in Denver. Scheme did not stop what the
Speaker 1: Steelers were doing. The Steelers stopped themselves. Ben had a
Speaker 1: career high twenty five completions at halftime and um critics
Speaker 1: of Ben Roethlisberger and Baker Mayfield this week shut up.
Speaker 1: Say you hate them, that's fine. Just say you hate him.
Speaker 1: You don't like them, you hate him, you don't like
Speaker 1: anything about him, but bending yourselves in all kinds of
Speaker 1: different directions to make points about them. Ben is fifteen
Speaker 1: year veteran with two Super Bowls, and he's the quarter
Speaker 1: If he was to criticize the rookie receiver for doing
Speaker 1: something stupid, that's his job. I did not click into
Speaker 1: a single one job. I thought you were talking about
Speaker 1: his interception or whatever. But I'm with you. Don't compare
Speaker 1: him to a wide receiver criticizing teammates. He's the quarterback.
Speaker 1: He's been in the league fifteen years. If you hate
Speaker 1: him because he's a bad person, that's fine, But don't
Speaker 1: tell us he's a bad leader because of that. I
Speaker 1: thought you were about to lock it up and up.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I want to give you one amazing. I
Speaker 1: want to give you one amazing. These two quarterbacks, Rivers
Speaker 1: and Big Ben. Since three when free agency started, zero
Speaker 1: point zero seven percent of players have remained exclusively with
Speaker 1: a single team for fifteen plus seasons. Not totally shocking,
Speaker 1: but that is sixteen players out of sixteen thousand, five
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty six, and Big Ben and Philip Rivers
Speaker 1: are obviously two of them. I've take that. It is
Speaker 1: a fun matchup. I mean, it's great to see these
Speaker 1: two guys going at it. This is one of those
Speaker 1: I want to start. The Roethlisberg have been playing on
Speaker 1: their teams for a long time, a long long time.
Speaker 1: And I mean, wouldn't Eli Manning be another one too.
Speaker 1: Evidence suggests he's a third. Antonio Brown is not having
Speaker 1: an Antonio Brown season. He's fourteenth right now in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I thought I thought it was telling Vance Joseph said
Speaker 1: after the game they were determined not to let Brown
Speaker 1: beat them, and that Steelers still through at him and
Speaker 1: it did help them the way that they threw at
Speaker 1: him thirteen times for sixty one yards. He's been extremely inefficient,
Speaker 1: had way more targets than Smith Schuster for the year,
Speaker 1: but as two hundred fewer yards, and I think it's
Speaker 1: a lot is going to have to come down on
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger just trusting Smith Schuster, who's getting done, and their
Speaker 1: third receiver, because those guys are just getting easy matchups.
Speaker 1: One on one matchup, he's got two tight ends on
Speaker 1: pace for eight hundred yards. Right, yeah, one other Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown note, his numbers, by the way, are still very good,
Speaker 1: They're just not at that level as a touchdowns. Yes,
Speaker 1: he also is the wide receiver. Uh well, he leads
Speaker 1: league in targets, but all so the receiver that's had
Speaker 1: the most uncatchable balls throwing his way as well. So
Speaker 1: I don't think he's playing bad. I just think it's
Speaker 1: not efficient connection. Teams are sending to two guys at
Speaker 1: him every single place. Also, the monstrous numbers that Juju
Speaker 1: Smith is putting up are in some degree because Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown is drawing so much about keeping has a star
Speaker 1: though he yeah, he's Every five years they find a
Speaker 1: new guy who's going to be there forever and be awesome.
Speaker 1: I don't think James Washington is going to be that guy.
Speaker 1: Keep an eye on the running back position on both sides. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon out James Conner last three games, his numbers
Speaker 1: of kind of uh tick downward. Is he gonna bounce
Speaker 1: back and have a big game or did he pee?
Speaker 1: This is the game for him against the Chargers defense
Speaker 1: without Denzel Perriman. This is the game for him. Monday
Speaker 1: Night football. Well, let's pick that game by the one
Speaker 1: you pet you locked up. Obviously, I think West is
Speaker 1: gonna win that lock. I think it's gonna be Steelers
Speaker 1: like twenty four type deal. You know what I want
Speaker 1: us to be. I kind of kind of into I'm torn,
Speaker 1: damn it, because I want I don't want the Patriots
Speaker 1: to get a buy, but I also don't think the
Speaker 1: Charges will catch the Chiefs, so they're not gonna get
Speaker 1: a buy. So I have buy that logic. Even though
Speaker 1: I want the Chargers to win, I'm gonna pick. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna pick the Charges now because that's what I
Speaker 1: want to happen. And there's no repercussions in this little
Speaker 1: pick sex sex. I don't know if I believe it helps,
Speaker 1: but that's what I'm rooting for. I'm rooting for the Chargers.
Speaker 1: All right. The Redskins are six and five. A two
Speaker 1: game lead losing streak has cost them uh their sole
Speaker 1: possession of first place in the NFC East. They traveled
Speaker 1: to Philly to face the Eagles Mark who came back
Speaker 1: on the Giants wiped out a fairly large deficit. But
Speaker 1: it's the Giants, so you don't want to get too crazy.
Speaker 1: Eagles gotta win this game to stay in the race
Speaker 1: or it's by yeah. And I don't believe in the
Speaker 1: Eagles at this point, really at all. I think they're
Speaker 1: essentially capable of being annoying enough to do their part
Speaker 1: to ensure that we get someone coming out of the
Speaker 1: NFC East as an eight and eight playoff team destined
Speaker 1: for total implosion. So that does mean that they will
Speaker 1: win this week, And that does mean I'm gonna lock
Speaker 1: up the Eagles that I don't believe in at all.
Speaker 1: It's mistake, maybe, but you know what, I think they'll
Speaker 1: probably win two, So it's not. It's just it's a
Speaker 1: hard move to lock up a team you don't believe in.
Speaker 1: I've done that before, and then you you kill yourself
Speaker 1: if I think I think they're gonna win, I almost did.
Speaker 1: I almost went Steelers. But I also think this uh
Speaker 1: takes me out of any sort of emotional locks scenario
Speaker 1: on Sunday, which I did for the three of you.
Speaker 1: Certainly I like that strategy, but I don't it was
Speaker 1: a giving strategy. But I don't really like the pick
Speaker 1: because because I feel, well, Greg, where are we in
Speaker 1: the lock standings? You and me? Let I'm doing terrible?
Speaker 1: But I don't like that pick because I look at
Speaker 1: the Redskins and I look at the Eagles, and I
Speaker 1: see two very similar teams. And I know Colte McCoy,
Speaker 1: you know, tried a little too hard, trusted himself a
Speaker 1: little too much, but he also made some plays on Thanksgiving. Uh.
Speaker 1: And this is not the same Eagles defense that we
Speaker 1: saw earlier in the season. And most importantly, it's a
Speaker 1: different Redskins team than we even saw last time around.
Speaker 1: Jamison Crowder looks like he could be back, Chris Thompson
Speaker 1: looks like he could be back. Trent Williams he's back.
Speaker 1: And I wonder like what Eagles team has has Vegas
Speaker 1: been watching lately, because they're a touchdown favorite in this
Speaker 1: game and and in the doctor. That doesn't smell right.
Speaker 1: But the doctor's not feeling that, and I'm liking McCoy
Speaker 1: again as a touchdown road dog. It's raining and feel
Speaker 1: pay doctor rainmaker? Do you take credit? Wait? So are
Speaker 1: we again coming from totally different worlds Where I say,
Speaker 1: I say they're gonna win the actual football games. You
Speaker 1: say they're just gonna do your a little desert thing.
Speaker 1: They're just gonna cover. Yeah, yeah, it was desert like.
Speaker 1: It's like got Actually that happened last week. West One
Speaker 1: is locked, but the Giants came through in Philadelphia very
Speaker 1: similar rainy conditions where the Giants did their job. One
Speaker 1: thing about the Redskins. This could come back to haunt me,
Speaker 1: But I think Adrian Peterson has slowed down over the
Speaker 1: last few weeks, especially laterally. I don't think he looks
Speaker 1: nearly as explosive as he did earlier in the year.
Speaker 1: Not practicing today with the shoulder situation. You want to
Speaker 1: jump out on that and what like you abandoned Aaron. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying what I see. That's fair. Daniel look
Speaker 1: very disappointed with the singing performance. You know, you're you're
Speaker 1: up in arms about Annie Lennox. So we got we
Speaker 1: still could get. Yeah, there's still the music bed underneath.
Speaker 1: But I I I thought it was a It was
Speaker 1: my favorite drop because I like to hear your you're singing,
Speaker 1: But I cannot say that I wasn't disturbed. Can we
Speaker 1: isolate just the voice? And I was a little I
Speaker 1: put it at the end ready time, especially one time
Speaker 1: you put it on a doctor Rainmaker. Do you take credit?
Speaker 1: Here comes the rain again. It's like I just took
Speaker 1: his headset off. This is like a Delaware reunion tour.
Speaker 1: Here in the studio today, cars just flying off the road.
Speaker 1: You should have seen the space recording it. He like
Speaker 1: faced the wall and he turned around to the cameras
Speaker 1: and he literally had like he had one hand out
Speaker 1: and it was literally singing, you got this. Ever happens
Speaker 1: in you gotta make sure you get ever I have
Speaker 1: never happened. It's never happening. All right. That's it. Next
Speaker 1: time you hear from us will be Sunday night. We'll
Speaker 1: recap all the games that we just previewed. Thank you
Speaker 1: to everybody for listening. Subreddit, go get a mirror. Uh
Speaker 1: and uh And that's it. I love you guys, have
Speaker 1: a great weekend. Then I had the signing off or
Speaker 1: quiet start the mailment the golden pipes of the old
Speaker 1: Boss and Ricky Hollywood behind the glass to be careful
Speaker 1: till Sunday night. Hey, dr rainmaker, do you take credit?
Speaker 1: Here comes the rain again, Here comes the rain again,
Speaker 1: Here comes the rain again.