Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast is just a vessel for
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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis that's
Speaker 1: un and I am joined in a room filled with
Speaker 1: heroes Mark Sassler, Chris Westling and Greg Rose withal What
Speaker 1: is a boy is? Hey? Dan? By the way, I
Speaker 1: would imagine for listeners in Mark would have seen um
Speaker 1: in Britain, a vessel for your bits does not mean
Speaker 1: what it means here, um a comedic forum for you
Speaker 1: it means something much less. I don't know what the
Speaker 1: vessel would be, but yeah, a little Joe talk was
Speaker 1: starting off the Wednesday show, some junk talk starting it
Speaker 1: off a little bit later than usual because Greg got
Speaker 1: got a ring on the old bat phone, didn't he Yeah,
Speaker 1: Charlie Casserley had larynditis, so they had to go deep
Speaker 1: into the bull love. This get bit really proven that
Speaker 1: money look out. It is that a zick bit. What
Speaker 1: would have to happen NFL network to dial one of
Speaker 1: the three of us up to do this? Uh? Probably
Speaker 1: like um, you know how they put the president and
Speaker 1: the vice president on separate planes. If they did that
Speaker 1: with all the NFL Media Talent. Of course we wouldn't
Speaker 1: be on either plane and then both planes went down. Maybe.
Speaker 1: I still think it's a maybe. What people had whisper
Speaker 1: into their ear that you know, Chris Wesley works for you,
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler works for you. What if I had? Then
Speaker 1: they'd be like, Yeah, they'd be like, what why would
Speaker 1: we put them on TV? Um? Good job, though, Greg?
Speaker 1: What did you talk about? They'd say, dial up Peter Kid,
Speaker 1: Playoff Contenders by yourself, me and um old Tommy PALLISERA oh,
Speaker 1: Tommy p Who won the debate? Or was it a debate?
Speaker 1: I mean I think there was no scoring system, but
Speaker 1: I think the viewers decided that I wont speaking of debate.
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Speaker 1: tune in, but there were shenanigans Today's show. Today's show
Speaker 1: is a good one. Got a lot to coming to you.
Speaker 1: On a Wednesday T and F preview, titoons, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: heard me against the Jaguars. Uh in a very important
Speaker 1: game for one of those teams. Also, uh, with four
Speaker 1: games remaining in the regular season for every team. We've
Speaker 1: hit the home stretch. Hit the home stretch. Boys, what's
Speaker 1: got you? Jazz? They're calling again, Scrambled Eggs. The Fraser
Speaker 1: intro as a a white boy from the suburbs. This
Speaker 1: was my introduction to jazz. So this is how, this
Speaker 1: is how I recognize jazz. I've got a nice playlist
Speaker 1: on Spotify you could subscribe to mine. Was like, that's fine,
Speaker 1: Dennis Kelsey Grammar, he's jazz to me. I don't think
Speaker 1: there's anything. I mean, the titen of the form now,
Speaker 1: the medium goes beyond Kelsey Grammar. Just just to let
Speaker 1: you know, there's some I cannot believe. Erica cut out.
Speaker 1: We love you, Seattle. I'm devastated about that. Hoisted on
Speaker 1: your own petard. Alright, so yeah, we're gonna talk about that,
Speaker 1: and but before we do that, let's do some news.
Speaker 1: The only reason I've been playing nineteen ears to get
Speaker 1: to that thousand yards and I did it, So that's it.
Speaker 1: I'm out. Yeah, it was the back end music there.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it was interesting. I think he was
Speaker 1: getting into his car. He's playing some rap music out
Speaker 1: of his and he's he's a forty something dad. It's like,
Speaker 1: I like the hip hop. What about you? I like
Speaker 1: that you think that somehow that hip hop is like
Speaker 1: not the most not the dominant, you know, form of
Speaker 1: music or pop culture. I mean, that's kind of just
Speaker 1: going along with the flow here. You're a man who
Speaker 1: loves popular music. You are absolutely right that hip hop
Speaker 1: is the dominant form in pop culture in terms of
Speaker 1: and I don't think it's a young thing anymore. But
Speaker 1: or men in their forties, white men in their forties,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the dominant form. That's I
Speaker 1: think it is. I think it's kind of change. I
Speaker 1: think that well. I know, I know this probably grates
Speaker 1: on you because you of your like rap knowledge, but
Speaker 1: I think it's hard to take a white dad in
Speaker 1: dad clothes in his forties listening to like the cutting
Speaker 1: edge music very seriously. I I appreciate that they may
Speaker 1: actually love that music. But it's hard to take them
Speaker 1: seriously from a distay. I think. I think it's hard, though,
Speaker 1: to to take that musical opinion seriously. If you're so
Speaker 1: close minded, you can't open yourself up to all sorts
Speaker 1: of music, just simply like jazz. I mean, he that
Speaker 1: taken seriously, heard that Frazier bit, and uh, it just
Speaker 1: opened up an entire world of jazz today. A young
Speaker 1: Dan Dansis and I think he was young great music
Speaker 1: of any genre. I think to put a bow in
Speaker 1: this conversation because I think we're basically on the same
Speaker 1: wave length. I think is that hip hop became the
Speaker 1: dominant pop culture music in about the early to mid nineties,
Speaker 1: so people we were young, So now we're all people
Speaker 1: that you're at your thirty nine, right right, I'm thirty eight.
Speaker 1: As we enter our forties, I believe forty somethings of
Speaker 1: all colors and creeds, it will be the dominant platform.
Speaker 1: You guys are right. I think the dividing line happened
Speaker 1: between when Mark and I graduated high school and when
Speaker 1: you guys graduated. I listened to you, which was it
Speaker 1: was hot back that people don't imagine the time like that.
Speaker 1: But it's okay for musical taste to evolve as you
Speaker 1: get older about but the argument is not against that,
Speaker 1: which I think you're coming at this huge straw man
Speaker 1: thing like you're the one who's evolving and the rest
Speaker 1: of us aren't. That's not the point. Just hard to
Speaker 1: take any forty year old seriously, you're pulling that card. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I am not, but it's not what It's not the truth,
Speaker 1: not at all, not at And I love jazz, so
Speaker 1: it's like I'm a varied personality. And also again like
Speaker 1: all sorts of music. No, I mean, Mark's absolutely right
Speaker 1: evolving tastes. I don't walk around pretending that I'm like.
Speaker 1: I don't walk around acting like I'm some musical giant,
Speaker 1: and none of us do I have Like I have
Speaker 1: like a hundred songs that I love and listen to
Speaker 1: all the time, and they don't need to be released.
Speaker 1: Three weeks ago. Let's start in the Withkelvin Benjamin Um,
Speaker 1: the wide receiver, former first round pick of the Panthers,
Speaker 1: traded for a couple of draft picks, third and the seventh,
Speaker 1: I believe, from the Panthers to the Bills about a
Speaker 1: year and a half ago, and that has led to
Speaker 1: very little in the realm of results. So the Bills decide,
Speaker 1: after two unproductive seasons and eighteen games in which we
Speaker 1: scored just two touchdowns, they're letting the wide receiver go.
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott uh spoke this this week, I believe it
Speaker 1: was today, in fact Wednesday, on why the Bills made
Speaker 1: the decision to move up. We stepped up to the
Speaker 1: plate and you take a swing, and some of those
Speaker 1: are gonna work in some art, but the only way
Speaker 1: you get a hit is if you take a swing.
Speaker 1: And um. The important thing, just as important for us,
Speaker 1: I believe, is um. When things are no longer right
Speaker 1: for us as our football team and where we are
Speaker 1: in the vision, we're trying to trying to chase that
Speaker 1: we that we move forward, and that's what we did.
Speaker 1: Coaches love those baseball analogies. West what happened to Kelvin Benden.
Speaker 1: He's slow, which was has always been a problem, and
Speaker 1: he doesn't appear to be the most motivated guy. And
Speaker 1: when you put him on a team in a lost season,
Speaker 1: I think that motivation is even easier to question. And
Speaker 1: before this news even happened, I had watched the Bill's
Speaker 1: Dolphins game and wondered why he was jogging on his routes.
Speaker 1: So I'm guessing some of that had that had something
Speaker 1: to do with it. I like it bothers me. If
Speaker 1: you're a Bills fin, you'd be a little bit concerned
Speaker 1: about the self scouting. Because the coach and the GM
Speaker 1: Brandon being came from Carolina. They knew inherently who Calvin
Speaker 1: Benjamin was. Because I don't think he fundamentally changed as
Speaker 1: a person when he went to Buffalo. Carolina was willing
Speaker 1: to part ways with him, although some players do go
Speaker 1: to Buffalo in western New York and when it comes
Speaker 1: they fundamentally changed, no doubt. But they gave up a
Speaker 1: third and a seventh for a player that's out the
Speaker 1: door not too long after that. And I don't know,
Speaker 1: I get if you're a different coach and a different
Speaker 1: GM who didn't have that experience with Calvin Benman. Previously,
Speaker 1: he had us than six hundred yards in eighteen games.
Speaker 1: He wasn't gonna be on the team next year. So
Speaker 1: this release is more of like a message sender and
Speaker 1: and saying that whatever he's doing recently is not acceptable.
Speaker 1: They want to play the young guys right, and but
Speaker 1: it's a disastrous trade. I mean, to give up a
Speaker 1: third round pick for a season of of Kelvin Benjamin
Speaker 1: at that level as a disaster. And I would assume
Speaker 1: McDermott and the former Panthers brain trust that moved up
Speaker 1: north they thought they would maybe get an approximation of
Speaker 1: the two thousand fourteen Benjamin came into the league and
Speaker 1: went for a thousand yards and nine touchdowns, but he
Speaker 1: never really got closet. He blews a c l out,
Speaker 1: came back at a hat a similar season but at
Speaker 1: the same levels, never jawing with Cam Newton and stuff.
Speaker 1: It just seems like not a team guy. He's a
Speaker 1: limited he has a limited skill set. He if he's
Speaker 1: gonna be maximized, he needs to be on a team
Speaker 1: that just focuses on that skill set. And that's it.
Speaker 1: He's not a number one receiver. First team I thought
Speaker 1: of was the Steelers, and don't forget when they made
Speaker 1: this trade. They're trying to make their first playoff spot
Speaker 1: in seventeen years, and they did. I don't think it
Speaker 1: was because it eleven Benjamin, but that was that was
Speaker 1: why you make kind of I think it was. It
Speaker 1: was ideally because of him alone that they what has
Speaker 1: Big Ben been asking for? Ever since Plexico Burres left
Speaker 1: a six ft five red zone target and Justin Hunter
Speaker 1: out for the year with the shoulder injury, James Washington
Speaker 1: has played good idea as poorly as any receiver out there.
Speaker 1: So why not bringing Kelvin Benjamin is your third guy
Speaker 1: since Ryan Switzer's and concussion protocol there hurting unless he's
Speaker 1: a raging locker room cancer. That's what the Steelers love though.
Speaker 1: Put Westling in the Steelers front office. That's a good idea.
Speaker 1: Let's move on the Washington Redskins are in deep duty. UH,
Speaker 1: Alex Smith broke his leg, then Colt McCoy broke his leg,
Speaker 1: and now they need to make a signing to support
Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez, who's their starting CORP quarterback. They go with
Speaker 1: Josh Johnson, who's been bouncing around and we'll get to
Speaker 1: uh his connection to the a F in a moment.
Speaker 1: But the comments that want to play here are the
Speaker 1: most predictable question that Jay Gruden or any team would
Speaker 1: get when they're signing a Josh Johnson type player to
Speaker 1: their roster, and a very notable player named Colin Kaepernick
Speaker 1: is either overlooked or bypassed. Jake Gruden was asked why
Speaker 1: they did not go down the Kaepernick route. This is
Speaker 1: what he said, not just football strictly football, Like I said,
Speaker 1: when you're talking about a backup quarterback this late in
Speaker 1: the game, uh, in the season, UM, you want to
Speaker 1: have somebody a similar skill set than the quarterback that
Speaker 1: you have. UM. Not that uh Colin can't do some
Speaker 1: of the things that I'm talking about, but somebody was
Speaker 1: a little bit of familiarity by under selling Greg. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm selling that explanation just because Colte McCoy and Josh Johnson,
Speaker 1: you know, they were in the same offense that Colin
Speaker 1: Kaepernick and Alex Smith were back in San Francisco. If anything, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he could adapt. But even going into last
Speaker 1: week's game, they mentioned Mark Sanchez going into that Monday
Speaker 1: night game had less plays available to him than a
Speaker 1: third or worth string quarterback would have had going into
Speaker 1: the third preseason game. So it's not like Mark Sanchez,
Speaker 1: you know, had like knew the playbook and knew everything.
Speaker 1: And I think if you kind of accept that Colin
Speaker 1: Kaepernick ultimately isn't in the league because of his political stance.
Speaker 1: That's that that's at least the main reason that it's
Speaker 1: just annoying to hear the lip service each time this
Speaker 1: comes out. I mean, you're you're basically telling Redskins fans
Speaker 1: with your team still in the mix for a playoff spot,
Speaker 1: that we prefer Mark Sanchez to Colin Kapero quarterback weeks
Speaker 1: ago and we prefer Josh Johnson, who you know at
Speaker 1: the San Diego Fleet from the A A FL or
Speaker 1: whatever it's called, gave up their first round pick for
Speaker 1: Josh Johnson. In weeks later. Their roster has been scattered
Speaker 1: to the winds. It's a devastating setback for the Fleet,
Speaker 1: who just last week. Uh in the way that the
Speaker 1: their draft is set up, it's either protect or pick,
Speaker 1: so you can protect one of your three quarterbacks on
Speaker 1: your roster, or you could pick unprotected quarterback on another
Speaker 1: of the league's ross. They say, we're gonna rally around
Speaker 1: Josh Johnson. Um GM of the Fleet, Dave Bowler said,
Speaker 1: we watched all the quarterbacks pretty closely. We were paying
Speaker 1: close attention to some more than others, but some stood
Speaker 1: out and caught our attention and did some nice things,
Speaker 1: but ultimately Josh, both of his decision making and his
Speaker 1: roots in San Diego, he was our guy. So where
Speaker 1: do you go from here? West? If you're the Fleet,
Speaker 1: make a trade for Christian Hackenburg. The season doesn't start
Speaker 1: un till February, So they're fine, doesn't the Redskin season
Speaker 1: ends in January. That's like saying an NFL team losing
Speaker 1: their first round pick and then you say, oh, the
Speaker 1: season not starting for four months. Sam Donald got yanked
Speaker 1: into I mean the Redskin starting the playoff race. I
Speaker 1: think the Fleet can deal with only a month of
Speaker 1: training for Josh Johnson. If you even get Josh Johnson
Speaker 1: up to speed in a week on an NFL team,
Speaker 1: the Fleet, the Fleet can handle it. I I think
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that no one's made the argument with I
Speaker 1: know everyone's like annoyed with the Kaepernick argument, giving actual
Speaker 1: analysis there about I mean, you gotta it's a setback
Speaker 1: for Josh. Johnson's on his twelfth NFL team, so he's
Speaker 1: obviously doing something right, Like in the locker room. He's
Speaker 1: probably probably a fun not or he's like a good
Speaker 1: guy to have as your backup, or else teams wouldn't
Speaker 1: keep signing him. I'm surprised now it's sort of made
Speaker 1: the argument to just signed Kaepernick for the worst reasons possible,
Speaker 1: which is PR is the ultimate PR league. It took
Speaker 1: hold because they had a PR driven commissioner and Pete Roselle.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of decisions I don't think this
Speaker 1: is breaking news are made at the league level for
Speaker 1: PR and throughout NFL's history, ownership has sort of taken
Speaker 1: one for the team, for each other, for the greater
Speaker 1: good of the league, and just tried to do something
Speaker 1: to quiet down an issue like wouldn't isn't that reason
Speaker 1: that could be? It's the most cynical, bad reason possible,
Speaker 1: but that alone, which should be like a reason. Hear
Speaker 1: the Reds take one for the team to to shut
Speaker 1: everyone out. I hear you. But when the Ravens came
Speaker 1: close with Kaepernick, they had sponsors pulling out left and right.
Speaker 1: And that was a year and a half ago, though,
Speaker 1: and I think people said that you know it, and
Speaker 1: no one's minded. Eric read no one cares that Kenny
Speaker 1: stills his kneeling before everything is one. Donald Trump tweet
Speaker 1: to fire up the whole country and any scared sponsors
Speaker 1: maybe I don't blame any team for deciding that Colin
Speaker 1: Kaepernick isn't worth signing, but I just wish we could
Speaker 1: get some truth instead of, like said the just don't
Speaker 1: even say it, just don't even say anything, just say
Speaker 1: this is what we decide, you know. Just it's especially
Speaker 1: this this scheme argument when when Josh literally was Colin
Speaker 1: Kaepernick's back up in San Francisco, Do you remember that,
Speaker 1: I'd like, I'd like to hear we don't think signing
Speaker 1: the thirty best quarterback in the world is worth what
Speaker 1: comes along with him. If that's what Yeah, if you
Speaker 1: wanted to say it that way, Let's move on. Bruce
Speaker 1: Arians a little bit thirsty. Bruce he's working for CBS,
Speaker 1: uh and Uh. He floated it out there, either I
Speaker 1: don't remember if it was Bruce himself or through back channels,
Speaker 1: that he would be open to joining the Browns and
Speaker 1: a coaching campath City and only the Browns. And then
Speaker 1: when uh, Mike McCarthy got fired on Sunday, a lot
Speaker 1: of people connected dots, Well what about Bruce Arians with
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Well, Bruce Arians is back on the radio, uh,
Speaker 1: and he's speaking to Zach Gelb of CBS Sports, and
Speaker 1: he said he had no interest in replacing McCarthy. No,
Speaker 1: not at all. Arian said, if I ever returned to coaching,
Speaker 1: it will only be in Cleveland. Gelb noted that green
Speaker 1: Bay is one of the more desirable openings, uh, for
Speaker 1: any coach, and Arians held his stance. Yeah, it is. Uh.
Speaker 1: It's just I have no desire to coach in green Bay. Mark, Uh,
Speaker 1: this is beyond telegraphing. He's basically begging the Browns to
Speaker 1: come after him. It seems he is, and in thirties
Speaker 1: something years as a Browns fan. I've never heard any
Speaker 1: potential coach frame the Brown's job this way at all.
Speaker 1: And I really do think that it goes back a
Speaker 1: little bit. There's a Baker Mayfield factor in there. There's
Speaker 1: probably a Freddie Kitchens factor in there. There's a comfort
Speaker 1: with the idea of Cleveland because his first play calling
Speaker 1: job in the NFL was his three year stint with
Speaker 1: the Browns. And he talks whenever you bring whenever that
Speaker 1: subject comes up, he talks very fondly about his experience.
Speaker 1: Is there before the whole thing melted down and Butch
Speaker 1: Davis essentially went into a he resigned over having a
Speaker 1: breakdown basically, and then Arians was out the door. That
Speaker 1: was their last playoff appearance under Arians, and I think
Speaker 1: that there's unfinished business there, but I think it's just
Speaker 1: sort of what Cleveland offers. It is an attractive spot
Speaker 1: right now, especially with Baker Mayfield, and it's one last
Speaker 1: run for Arians in his mind. I don't sense as
Speaker 1: much excitement from the Browns or their fan base as
Speaker 1: you would think for Bruce Arians. Maybe if he teased
Speaker 1: a little bit, added some flirtation. We chease, we chase
Speaker 1: that which retreats from us, and he's making himself too
Speaker 1: available exactly. He see It's tricky. It's a balancing act.
Speaker 1: You don't want to see him, as Dan said, Patton
Speaker 1: Mouse too thirsty. He also, you know, is as old
Speaker 1: even though he has an aggressive downfield philosophy. He is
Speaker 1: about as kind of pro style offense as as coaches come.
Speaker 1: And he's turning sixty seven next year. Whereas Baker Mayfield,
Speaker 1: you would think you would be looking for a coach
Speaker 1: that would be a little more like college and new
Speaker 1: innovative offense. Mayfield today talked up Lincoln Riley as someone
Speaker 1: who's absolutely ready for the NFL kind of reminds me
Speaker 1: of remembering Swingers. Mike when he's leaving the answering machine
Speaker 1: messages over and over and over again, and and finally
Speaker 1: the girl picks up the phone. She's like, don't ever
Speaker 1: call me again. It's like, Bruce, let it breathe a
Speaker 1: little bit now. The Browns obviously, no, you're interested. I
Speaker 1: mean we've all had that some version of that experience
Speaker 1: back during the Answering Machine days. I'll tell you what, Mark,
Speaker 1: I would be surprised if Bruce Arians is not the
Speaker 1: brown said Erica didn't in a month. I think this
Speaker 1: is gonna happen. Wow, because why wouldn't. It's a splash higher,
Speaker 1: it matches the direction the league is in right now.
Speaker 1: A respected, offensive mind type guy. And if Arians is
Speaker 1: passionate about the job, and we all know he can
Speaker 1: coach ball, why wouldn't Browns give him the job. I'd
Speaker 1: be I'd be fine with You'd be on fire about it,
Speaker 1: wouldn't you. I love him so yes, I think because
Speaker 1: that's two very strong personalities in him and John Dorsey,
Speaker 1: and I think they want to find a coach. In
Speaker 1: a perfect world that would be you know, Baker Mayfield's
Speaker 1: forever coach. You know, you want a guy that can
Speaker 1: grow with them, and an He's someone who openly had
Speaker 1: health issues and flirted, you know, flirted with the retirement
Speaker 1: a couple of times. He retired. You know, it's not
Speaker 1: like they fired which Bruce Arians on Arians being the
Speaker 1: Please plead me, all right, Arians will be the next
Speaker 1: Browns coach. Imprompt you have at the field. Yes, you
Speaker 1: always love him on that one. All right, Let's go
Speaker 1: with the blotder Brandon Browner. You remember him. He was
Speaker 1: kind of like the worst guy in the legion of Boom.
Speaker 1: Eventually in many ways, bounced around the league. He's a physical,
Speaker 1: big cornerback. Uh And after he left the league, he
Speaker 1: got himself into some quite serious business trouble wise. He's
Speaker 1: been sentenced to eight years in prison after pleading no
Speaker 1: contest to attempt and murder and child Endangerman. Greg, you're
Speaker 1: little surprised this hasn't been a bigger story. It just
Speaker 1: struck me that if he was still in the NFL
Speaker 1: like he was two years ago, it would be a
Speaker 1: massive story. So it's just interesting to me that this happens,
Speaker 1: and it was horrific what he said there's not much
Speaker 1: we can say about what he is accused to have
Speaker 1: done and was convicted. I mean, it's it's obviously horrifying,
Speaker 1: but it is different that like if this if he
Speaker 1: was still in the league, people would be going nuts
Speaker 1: about it, like what's wrong with the NFL? But then
Speaker 1: when when you're out of the league for a year
Speaker 1: or two, then it's just off the reader. Uh. In
Speaker 1: other news, Kareem Hunt, who is now unattached of course,
Speaker 1: to any NFL team. In fact, UH, Creem Hunt being
Speaker 1: kind of taken off the map entirely. Even the Madden
Speaker 1: Football Game has removed him from the game I read today.
Speaker 1: So Kareem Hunt has found himself, um, completely cast out
Speaker 1: of the NFL. And there's more connected to Hunt. The
Speaker 1: NFL is investigating, uh, the former chief running backs Uh,
Speaker 1: the February altercation with the woman that led to his release,
Speaker 1: as well as an incident in January and June uh
Speaker 1: that involved UM. I suppose some type of violence or
Speaker 1: an altercation of some kind. So Kareem Hunt, who's certainly
Speaker 1: going to have a lengthy suspension, UH, mark down the line. UH,
Speaker 1: this stuff could even yield more issues for him beyond
Speaker 1: that one incident. Well, it's a classic you know investigation
Speaker 1: that's taking place, you know, enigmatically far too later than
Speaker 1: it then it should have. And the best one of
Speaker 1: the best things that happened this week in the NFL
Speaker 1: is that no team jumped on trying to grab Kareem Hunt,
Speaker 1: which would have been a pr disaster and would have
Speaker 1: revealed one team for for its worst you know, it's
Speaker 1: worst quality. There's a question, West, I'll pose it to you.
Speaker 1: If Reuben Foster doesn't get picked up to the red
Speaker 1: by the Redskins, and the Redskins got flamed as they
Speaker 1: deserve to be, Uh, if that never happened, do you
Speaker 1: think some team jumps on the reigning rushing champion in
Speaker 1: the NFL. It's a very good question, and it made
Speaker 1: me think and my immediate answer was the video makes
Speaker 1: all the difference, and that's why he would still not
Speaker 1: have been picked up. The the timing too, that there's
Speaker 1: no way he's going to be on the field this
Speaker 1: year or probably for a chunk of last year. It
Speaker 1: is just timing though, because ultimately, to do any of
Speaker 1: us doubt that he's going to be back in the NFL,
Speaker 1: I mean well, I mean I'll say this, Ray Rice
Speaker 1: never was. Most people thought he couldn't play anymore. Right,
Speaker 1: Ray Rice was right at the border of where he
Speaker 1: was about to be, you know, maybe out of the league. Anyways,
Speaker 1: I guess I would be stunned. And I'm not even
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure if i have a fleshed out
Speaker 1: thought on whether that's right, wrong, or whatever. But I'd
Speaker 1: be stunned if Cream Hunts not in the NFL. He is.
Speaker 1: I mean, Joe Mixon's in the NFL. There's a videotape
Speaker 1: Incenter Time Hill. If you got the talent and you're young,
Speaker 1: someone's gonna take a shot. Most likely, we'll see how
Speaker 1: this all plays out. A lot of i R talk
Speaker 1: you never liked that. We've had a good season knock
Speaker 1: on wood in terms of major injuries not affecting the
Speaker 1: league's best players. Uh, for the most part. But here
Speaker 1: are some notable names. Greg Golson today was moved to
Speaker 1: i R with that foot injury. He's having foot surgery
Speaker 1: and he suffered three major injuries to the foot since
Speaker 1: the start of last season. This could be the end, Greg,
Speaker 1: it could it? When laughing, why is it funny? Like
Speaker 1: Greg Olsen's incredible something totally different. I think Mark and
Speaker 1: I are both typing at the same time to tell
Speaker 1: Erica and I could be totally wrong that there's some
Speaker 1: breaking news in the end. I wrong, you are, uh,
Speaker 1: sort of, But for ESPN is reporting that Emmanuel Sanders
Speaker 1: is believed to have torn as achilles at practice Wednesday
Speaker 1: and that he will be out for the season. Further
Speaker 1: test pending, but that's what the Broncos believes. Party He
Speaker 1: and Philip Lindsay have been carrying that offense all year. Man,
Speaker 1: that's a big injury for they just traded to Marrius Thomas.
Speaker 1: Of course, Courtland Sutton stepped up last week and had
Speaker 1: a nice game, but he's been very hot and cold
Speaker 1: as a rookie. Yeah, he had his case. Keenum moved
Speaker 1: the football through the Greg. You could tell Sunday night
Speaker 1: when we were doing the recap that Greg had already
Speaker 1: mentally checked out on the Broncos because of the Chris
Speaker 1: Harris injury. But I think this injury hurts even more
Speaker 1: because you can't just way too. I mean, like I
Speaker 1: noticed when we were talking the recap last week, Greg
Speaker 1: was already like mentally like if they had made the playoffs,
Speaker 1: which because of their schedule, you know, they have two
Speaker 1: extremely easy games and then they have a Browns game.
Speaker 1: They could have still made the playoffs, but I I
Speaker 1: guess I was taking them less seriously. If they had
Speaker 1: snuck in, they'd be one of those Sessler teams that
Speaker 1: are just kind of sneaking in and then are gonna
Speaker 1: get dropped. And this is gonna make it even harder.
Speaker 1: But they're not out of it this no, I think
Speaker 1: they're out of it. The Emanuel Sanders was playing at
Speaker 1: a really high level this year. He was carrying that
Speaker 1: passing game well, so West one question, let's say they
Speaker 1: have not the Niners and the Raiders. I see them
Speaker 1: getting to eight wins and then you head into Week
Speaker 1: seventeen against the Chargers, who may or may not have
Speaker 1: something to play for. I think they will, but I
Speaker 1: a chance to get to know. That's a good point.
Speaker 1: The Charges very well might not. I don't consider at
Speaker 1: Oakland a gimme for the Broncos without Emmanuel Sanders and
Speaker 1: Chris Harry, They're they're the type of team I think
Speaker 1: no game is a gimme. I even thought that about
Speaker 1: Jeff driscoll and the Bengals and they ended up winning,
Speaker 1: but that game was tied scoreless late into the second
Speaker 1: There They're a team that's overcome a lot of things.
Speaker 1: Their their offensive line is bad. They have some things
Speaker 1: going for them, obviously with the running game and in
Speaker 1: some of their pass rushers. If it wasn't for the schedule, though,
Speaker 1: we'd be crossing they play the Niners. I think their
Speaker 1: season comes down to that Saturday night against Cleveland the
Speaker 1: the Panthers, and and I never answered your your Greg
Speaker 1: Olsen question. I think are in a similar spot with that.
Speaker 1: It's just sometimes you can feel when things are ending.
Speaker 1: And maybe Ron Rivero proved us wrong. Him and Cam
Speaker 1: Newton quietly have done kind of the Aaron Rodgers Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy thing a few times where they rally at the
Speaker 1: end of the season. I found some two thousand twelve
Speaker 1: around the NFL article I wrote that Ron Rivera does
Speaker 1: not know his job status and going into week seventeen, right,
Speaker 1: and that was he's had a few different runs and
Speaker 1: I would never count those two out. But losing Greg
Speaker 1: Olsen on the same day that Tyler Heinik is throwing
Speaker 1: uh the final pass because Cam Newton shoulders so injury
Speaker 1: and a day before you're firing defensive coaches. Just feels
Speaker 1: like the end, doesn't it. The Cam Newton thing, it's
Speaker 1: not just it's not just a hail Mary, right, that's
Speaker 1: watch that fourth quarter and he's throwing sideline creepers. The
Speaker 1: ball is stopping in mid air. I mean the arm
Speaker 1: strength is not there, even the throw before the hail Mary.
Speaker 1: Remember commented to you Greg while we were watching alive
Speaker 1: it didn't seem to come out of his hand right,
Speaker 1: and was not You don't want to Sideline shoulder injuries
Speaker 1: are a negative factor for an NFL quarterback. They seemed
Speaker 1: to be an issue before and they were shop level
Speaker 1: passing and he struck out that crazy the weird thing
Speaker 1: is and I think it should be pointing out that
Speaker 1: he made a number really good throws in that game,
Speaker 1: so it were little confusing. Sometimes it looks it doesn't
Speaker 1: take as much has arm strength to throw to the
Speaker 1: hash as it does to the sideline. No, let's get
Speaker 1: into this more. On Thursday when we talked pas previous
Speaker 1: what about the sideline creeper opening tonight? Uh and the
Speaker 1: A J. Green sees A J. Green Seasons over reaggravated
Speaker 1: that toe injury, and we don't really have time to
Speaker 1: talk about it right now. But without the track, what
Speaker 1: happens with him in the off season as he answers
Speaker 1: his age thirty one season, one year left on his deal.
Speaker 1: Landon Collins of the Giants, whose star seems to fade
Speaker 1: it a little bit after a great start to his career.
Speaker 1: He is on I R with an injury, and Christian Kirk,
Speaker 1: the rookie water sep for the Cardinals, uh busted up
Speaker 1: his Hey. I believe Landon Collins is a free agent
Speaker 1: off season, so I would think they would use the
Speaker 1: franchise tag on him. I I don't have there are
Speaker 1: any other other options in front of me that could
Speaker 1: be a tricky long term contract to do. Because of
Speaker 1: this injury, broken foot for Christian Kirk ends his season.
Speaker 1: Cardinals now officially ultra boring. Let's fork um still on
Speaker 1: the hunt though, I think let's him finally in the news.
Speaker 1: By the way, playoff picture dot com NFL you know
Speaker 1: NFL dot com, Um, I know you're listening now. There
Speaker 1: are some of the programmers you gotta take the Raiders
Speaker 1: and these some of these teams out of in the
Speaker 1: hunt on the playoff picture because some of them are
Speaker 1: even officially out, but they're still sitting there. Take them out.
Speaker 1: You heard him finally in the news. Really annoys me.
Speaker 1: Joe Filman really excuse me? Replaced Mike McCarthy as coach
Speaker 1: of the Packers and in term capacity on uh Sunday,
Speaker 1: but more changes came on Tuesday. Associate head coach Winston Moss,
Speaker 1: who has been with the team for a long time
Speaker 1: and he's coached the outside linebackers most recently, was let
Speaker 1: go on Tuesday. The decision, it is said, came from
Speaker 1: Filman himself and um. Although it is not an unusual
Speaker 1: thing for these type of coaching shakeups that happen, especially
Speaker 1: when the head coach gets let go, a lot of
Speaker 1: people are connecting the dots to a tweet from Winston
Speaker 1: Moss in which he wrote, this, ponder this what championship
Speaker 1: teams have our great leadership period. It's not the offensive
Speaker 1: guru trend. It's not the safe trend. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that is. Find somebody that is going to hold
Speaker 1: number twelve and everybody in the building to a hashtag
Speaker 1: Lombardi standard period exclamation point. The period has an exclamation point.
Speaker 1: Hashtag losing sucks West. Is this a case I'm gonna
Speaker 1: use a youth term for you here, so you know,
Speaker 1: stay with me. Of Winston mos Get and can because
Speaker 1: he was two online. I don't know what this means.
Speaker 1: Was he two online? And is that why he's unemployed?
Speaker 1: Let me take it back to where I'm comfortable, like
Speaker 1: the nineties, seventies and eighties. This would be like firing
Speaker 1: Johnny Carson and keeping Ed McMahon around. He was He
Speaker 1: was top lieutenant to McCarthy for twelve years and obviously
Speaker 1: was he two online? I think it seems like the
Speaker 1: tweet is what put it over the top. That the
Speaker 1: other day after he I think he realizes he was
Speaker 1: two online because he comes back with a second tweet
Speaker 1: that says, the packers have informed me that they're letting
Speaker 1: me go wrong version of the air. But that's okay.
Speaker 1: Then hashtag thanks Twitter, So he puts the blame. Yeah
Speaker 1: it was, but not on himself, but on the Twitter.
Speaker 1: Twitter has sought to be amplified. Twitter has gotten a
Speaker 1: lot of people hired, and it's gotten a lot of
Speaker 1: people fired. Giveth take it away. Ian rapart Uh said
Speaker 1: on on Around the NFL Today or well, what's that
Speaker 1: show called up to the Minute? That was a show
Speaker 1: that used to be canceled. They forced us to take
Speaker 1: on the logo of that show that was, you know,
Speaker 1: eventually axed. But as I was warming up in the bullpen,
Speaker 1: you know, they're out of pictures, I'm I'm in the
Speaker 1: bullpen coming in for the fourteenth. I noticed that Ian
Speaker 1: mentioned talking about this topic, Uh, that Moss had kind
Speaker 1: of been surly and not and not really communicative and
Speaker 1: uh distant throughout the season. So that that works in
Speaker 1: a workplace, that it happens in a workplace. At least
Speaker 1: that happens to some people in this room, even someone
Speaker 1: talking right now. Um, that's what's happening in the dudes.
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Speaker 1: rest of the store, all right, So let's go around
Speaker 1: the room and uh and explain what's what's got you jazz,
Speaker 1: what's got you excited? As we look ahead to the
Speaker 1: final four weeks of the regular season, Greg, get us,
Speaker 1: how many are we doing here? Because you know, you
Speaker 1: got we could be quickly. We were very very long
Speaker 1: on news, so we could be quick back, so we
Speaker 1: could be quick. And I know it's a good thing
Speaker 1: that I could try. At least it's a good thing.
Speaker 1: I'm going first because I'm taking late in vander Esh
Speaker 1: before West or anyway else. I mean, I have I
Speaker 1: have a bunch prepared because I'm you know, yeah, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do West. And I were watching the
Speaker 1: Cowboys game the other night and we were having a
Speaker 1: little fun and he said, um, he's He said, you know,
Speaker 1: Vanderesh might be like the best player in the NFL
Speaker 1: right now. And I tweeted out and people got really
Speaker 1: worked on Twitter mad worked up. But here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's the best player, but if he
Speaker 1: the for the five games that he's played, the difference
Speaker 1: that he's making, you can't play linebacker any better than
Speaker 1: he's playing. And so I don't think it's too soon
Speaker 1: to say for these five games, and I think he'll
Speaker 1: keep it up on some level. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he can stay at this insane level he is playing
Speaker 1: as well as basically anyone, because you can't play any
Speaker 1: better than Laton Vanderesh Right now, I have to go
Speaker 1: back and watch that on coaches because I just wanted
Speaker 1: to kind of like see it, and it's an amazing thing.
Speaker 1: And he has great teammates to Jalen Smith, UH is
Speaker 1: a lot of fun to watch. But just seeing this
Speaker 1: this kid come in as as good UH rookie linebacker
Speaker 1: as I think we've seen in a long, long tame,
Speaker 1: which is why it's absurd to hear Jerry Jones come
Speaker 1: out to say this week that the minute Shaun Lee
Speaker 1: is healthy, he'll be back starting. I know Eric is
Speaker 1: a big Layton Vanderesh fan. Oh yeah, he's awesome, farm raised.
Speaker 1: He really For the record, I was joking about him
Speaker 1: being well, no, I know you're joking. It's just that
Speaker 1: he's basically Jim Thorpe and people will tell tall tales
Speaker 1: and I'm a hundred years from now and he's going
Speaker 1: to change the game. No, he's just fun to watch now.
Speaker 1: It's it's like watching a young Brian Urlacker, right, And
Speaker 1: it's not that we think he's the bet, but you
Speaker 1: really can't play it like. I don't think it's crazy
Speaker 1: to say he's been as good as any defensive player
Speaker 1: in the league for this four to five weeks. And
Speaker 1: what I mean to your point, Mark, maybe it's a
Speaker 1: bad move to take off this guy off the field,
Speaker 1: but Sean Lee is not like a pile of vomit.
Speaker 1: He's been the backbone of that d for many years.
Speaker 1: So I understand why. Again, inside the locker room, inside
Speaker 1: an organization, you don't want to say, no doubt, I'm
Speaker 1: not worried about starts. I'd be more worried about snaps.
Speaker 1: Keep him on the field, I bet they won't. No,
Speaker 1: they gotta keep him. They'll get rid of, they'll get
Speaker 1: rid of, they'll switch things around. All right, Uh, I'll
Speaker 1: throw it out there, all right, Okay, Um, I'm excited
Speaker 1: about the Chargers. I'm very excited about the Chargers, and
Speaker 1: I usually I don't get excited about the Charges often because, uh,
Speaker 1: in the past, I've been kind of annoyed by them.
Speaker 1: But I feel like, I like when forever losers find
Speaker 1: some semblance of peace. You know, one of my favorite
Speaker 1: sports stories of the decade and a lot of people
Speaker 1: is when the Cubs finally won a couple of years
Speaker 1: back the Eagles. One remember Connie Fox crying on the field.
Speaker 1: We played that during our Super Bowl show when I
Speaker 1: happened upon Connie. This is for different reasons. Erica was
Speaker 1: literally balled up in the on the concourse of the stadium. Uh.
Speaker 1: Where were we goin stadium? Was it? Uh? Minnesota and
Speaker 1: just sobbing because the Patriots had lost their Uh it
Speaker 1: was worse than sobbing. I was like quiet and they
Speaker 1: were just tears streaming from It was tough, But that's
Speaker 1: not what this is about. So it's like dropping a
Speaker 1: three year off at preschool on the first day. So anyway,
Speaker 1: I saw you got the the Eagles finally one after
Speaker 1: losing fifty three straight or not winning a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: fifty two straight years. The Browns this year finally found
Speaker 1: a quarterback and they seem to be going in the
Speaker 1: right direction. Now you got the Chargers, a team that's
Speaker 1: always found a way to lose, and I looked at
Speaker 1: Sunday night as a major step forward for that organization.
Speaker 1: And I'll be very excited to see, although this story
Speaker 1: will be written in January hopefully, if they can close strong,
Speaker 1: maybe catch the Chiefs, maybe um have home game, maybe
Speaker 1: a buy And how fascinated would be to see what
Speaker 1: that stadium would be like the StubHub Center. If they're
Speaker 1: they're twelve and four, thirteen and three hosting a playoff game,
Speaker 1: well they fill it up with their fans or will
Speaker 1: get invaded. That's all stuff that will play out. But
Speaker 1: let's see what happens with the Chargers. And I will
Speaker 1: had one more note West because I want to hear
Speaker 1: your thoughts on this as well. Uh They're also there's
Speaker 1: a flip side to this story. You want to see
Speaker 1: the Charges finished strong because it's been years of disappointment
Speaker 1: and heartache. But then you got what about all those
Speaker 1: poor people in San Diego, which to me, I still
Speaker 1: think about those fans and wouldn't it be bitter sweet.
Speaker 1: If the Charges finally got over the hump two years
Speaker 1: after they leave San Diego, it would be bitter sweet.
Speaker 1: You're right, and the San Diego fans would obviously be
Speaker 1: a little ambivalent about that. But I don't know, like
Speaker 1: Phil Rivers of Life is affected too, and a lot
Speaker 1: of these Chargers players, like you, wouldn't wish good things
Speaker 1: for them. Some in some some fans, I don't get
Speaker 1: the sense that a ton but some of the San
Speaker 1: Diego fans have stuck with them. I mean they were
Speaker 1: I've noticed them, They've had They've been on the road
Speaker 1: a little bit. I mean there was there was a
Speaker 1: story about a Steelers fan choking Chargers pregnant Chargers fan
Speaker 1: at that game, which is a horrible art story. The
Speaker 1: the husband and wife said they had come from San Diego, though,
Speaker 1: and they had been to a number of road games
Speaker 1: this year, so they are they are out there. It's
Speaker 1: a it is a minuscule numbers, you know. It's about
Speaker 1: as ugly as split as you could imagine. I was
Speaker 1: thinking about that. You say minuscule number, and we're not
Speaker 1: the people to do because we wouldn't be able to
Speaker 1: just quite frankly, we wouldn't be able to write this
Speaker 1: story in NFL dot com about what's going on in
Speaker 1: San Diego. But I'm surprised no one's like digging in,
Speaker 1: like what what happened to the fan base? People still
Speaker 1: supporting this team. There's some of that coverage because the
Speaker 1: ratings are significantly higher for the Chargers in San Diego
Speaker 1: than any other teams still now, they're significantly down from
Speaker 1: where they were, but they're way more popular in San
Speaker 1: Diego than they are in Los Angeles. It is a
Speaker 1: shame to to what you're saying, though, Like the San
Speaker 1: Diego would be on fire with the Chargers right now
Speaker 1: if they were still absolutely still there. But I'm I'm
Speaker 1: with you obviously, uh. And it's mostly because of Philip Rivers.
Speaker 1: This is like this, this is the season I wanted,
Speaker 1: was being in these meaningful games. He's gonna be on
Speaker 1: the Thursday Night finale a week from now against the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a big time game. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: against the Ravens a couple of nights before Christmas. That's
Speaker 1: a big time game. And he's gonna be in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: It probably be as you don't like Philip Rivers, You
Speaker 1: simply have issues and you need to examine yourself. Got
Speaker 1: that new haircut a little bit longer, like a little
Speaker 1: more confident. And my final thought is if the Chargers
Speaker 1: get over the hub, and the Eagles do it, and
Speaker 1: if the Browns do it, and if the Cubs do it,
Speaker 1: eventually it's got to get to the Jets. I could
Speaker 1: see that connecting. I mean, just the processes of elimination. Alright.
Speaker 1: I think the guys who are getting me excited. Can
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald brigg the sack record? How many records can
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes break? But it's more than just a record.
Speaker 1: It's about interrogating limits to the game and watching something
Speaker 1: we've never seen, changing the sport, giving something new to football,
Speaker 1: like Randy Moss going over the top of a defender,
Speaker 1: or Barry Sanders joking his way out of a jam.
Speaker 1: Um Lawrence Taylor forcing teams to put a premium on
Speaker 1: athletic freaks at left tackle. Aaron Donald, who knows what
Speaker 1: he's going to force teams to do at Garden Center.
Speaker 1: What he did in that Lions game might have been
Speaker 1: the most IMPRESSI I've ever been with him. That game
Speaker 1: was phenomenal, and he just seems to get better and
Speaker 1: more unstoppable every week. Patrick Mahomes in a season full
Speaker 1: of highlight clips where he's the most fun to play
Speaker 1: player to watch. I thought he was more fun than
Speaker 1: ever last week against the Raiders. Some of the throws
Speaker 1: he attempted and tried to pull off, like, how do
Speaker 1: you even imagine that you could make that throw? So
Speaker 1: to me, watching these two guys who remind me of
Speaker 1: Hall of famers in the past, doing things we've never
Speaker 1: seen and continuing to do them the rest of the
Speaker 1: year kind of like the equivalent of an NBA play
Speaker 1: or the heat check, you know, shooting from thirty eight ft. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like Steph Curry, We've never seen anybody play the
Speaker 1: game like Steph curR. I don't think we've ever seen
Speaker 1: anybody play the game like I meant specifically some of
Speaker 1: the throws he attempted. But and I've I've said that before.
Speaker 1: I get this, like Steph Curry Patrick Mahomes, feel like
Speaker 1: there's some type of connection between those two two At
Speaker 1: the time, I think there's three strong candiates for m
Speaker 1: v P. I think those are those are two interrogating
Speaker 1: the limits of the game. I like that. That sounds
Speaker 1: like a column or yes, I do. I think right
Speaker 1: now there there's yes. I think if people like us
Speaker 1: need to keep talking about I think he's worthy. But
Speaker 1: I just don't trust that. I don't trust the voters.
Speaker 1: I wish, you know, I wish they actually could vote
Speaker 1: for three players, that it would be more like the
Speaker 1: MV the n b A. But it's just one vote.
Speaker 1: But I think if it was held this week, I
Speaker 1: think it would go Breeze mahomes Donald in that order
Speaker 1: they get some votes. I think you have to be
Speaker 1: part of the Pro Football Writers Association and which we
Speaker 1: I've attempted to get involved with them and they. Can
Speaker 1: you ensure that we have a vote for you guys specifically? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have one group vote. That won't create any Can
Speaker 1: you reach out I'm not even I'm being dead serious.
Speaker 1: Can you reach out to whoever you need to reach
Speaker 1: out to and pitch our show for a single vote. Absolutely, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not joking. This will go undone. I guarantee this
Speaker 1: goes No, it's of course. I'll send an email but
Speaker 1: it and then see if they if they respond, Uh,
Speaker 1: you could read the response if they don't respond. If
Speaker 1: you can get this done, we will all give you money.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about But I'm just saying, if she can off,
Speaker 1: let's give her some real motivation. See now she's writing
Speaker 1: things down, She's money talks, Greg, I mean Mark Mark
Speaker 1: all right, These days when I wake up every morning
Speaker 1: feeling super luscious has everything to do with human being.
Speaker 1: I can't stop thinking about. Is it ex Network News
Speaker 1: anchor Connie Chung, No, it's not Connie Chung. Is it
Speaker 1: former White House twin Barbara Brush, the fiery redhead one
Speaker 1: who was nabbed by cops for underage alcohol possession and
Speaker 1: then nailed for going like one oh five on the highway?
Speaker 1: It is neither. Is it Hillary Clinton in her little
Speaker 1: beige pants suit? Not her? Wait, it has to be
Speaker 1: Jane Austen, that little minx, all tucked away in her
Speaker 1: British cottage, knocking out mega hit novels in her fluffy,
Speaker 1: small dress. No, it's not Jane Austen, Erica, you're bratt
Speaker 1: Just tell me. Wait? Is it Princess Leoh when she's
Speaker 1: in her white, puffy hot snowsuit. It's not a broader
Speaker 1: Definitely in marks like little back room tell me private,
Speaker 1: it's this guy. The snap goes to Duke chats and
Speaker 1: then they flip it a rod. Then they throw its
Speaker 1: show play blood style, take field under center, play action
Speaker 1: fake Baker back, Baker getting rush, Baker rolls right, fires,
Speaker 1: heagins on touchdown your loans, he crows, blattery, got it.
Speaker 1: He's at the forty five. He's at the forty eight
Speaker 1: yard line. Wow, Baker Mayfield, here you go, just the
Speaker 1: way you like it may feel to throw on first down,
Speaker 1: makes the connection across the forty five. I yeah, I
Speaker 1: honestly wanted to come up with something else, but I
Speaker 1: was like, what and what am I truly truly excited
Speaker 1: about it because every other December is the most depressing
Speaker 1: month because you're in a race trying to get the
Speaker 1: number one overall pick to solve this eternal void at quarterback.
Speaker 1: And this is one December. They have a primetime game
Speaker 1: on Saturday night. I can't wait to watch that. I
Speaker 1: don't really care if they're winning or losing, because they
Speaker 1: have a future where it matters most. And it does
Speaker 1: have me excited for the about the Browns for the
Speaker 1: first time really ever. It's a different type of excitement
Speaker 1: I mean West. West dialed up the Browns Texans game
Speaker 1: as his first game pass game last week, and that
Speaker 1: was a game you knew that Baker was going to
Speaker 1: set in two weeks in a row. I dialed up
Speaker 1: the brown says a lot. I'm I'm yeah. Bakers among
Speaker 1: the most fun guys in the league to watch right now. Wait,
Speaker 1: did you say that Jane Austin was nest It was
Speaker 1: a minkstress that was nestled away in her coffin in England. Oh, cottage, cottage,
Speaker 1: because I think she's probably in a coffin. There were
Speaker 1: a couple of in this world, Leah, and there was
Speaker 1: another one, I think the Bush. I know Mark well
Speaker 1: what what what? Revs? His edson and a couple of
Speaker 1: things down their way into the screen. He definitely likes
Speaker 1: the mix of politics and um and like the barb
Speaker 1: the barbera Bush junior or whatever she is is far
Speaker 1: superior to uh Jenna Bush product I was once I
Speaker 1: was once at a well, why don't they do juniors
Speaker 1: for women? That seems ridiculous to me. What you are?
Speaker 1: You are a younger version of the other Barbara Bush.
Speaker 1: You're the junior And I was once at a party
Speaker 1: with her Barbara Bush too in Westwood as as a
Speaker 1: twenty one year old, and the Secret Service was there. Okay,
Speaker 1: oh damn little pong action she was playing. She was playing?
Speaker 1: Were you interacting with her? No? Like that cup doesn't
Speaker 1: count those secret services like she was counts. Can I
Speaker 1: have another one? Yeah? I mean, how long do you
Speaker 1: guys want to show to This one's important? Here a
Speaker 1: lot of talk, This one's important. Okay, go ahead. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm excited to watch the best triplets and my homes
Speaker 1: Tyreek and Kelsey. You're in there, but you know, Chase
Speaker 1: Daniel has made the Bears boring. Let's get Trabiskie back
Speaker 1: in there with Khalil Mack and Tarik Cohen on a
Speaker 1: wheel route against an unsuspecting linebacker. But my favorite triplets
Speaker 1: are the Old Juser, the Quiet Storm and dr Rainmaker.
Speaker 1: You guys have sat behind me or sat beside me
Speaker 1: for seven shows. You sat beside me for a growling
Speaker 1: battle with cancer. Will you stand beside me on the
Speaker 1: most important day? Oh? Wow? Whoa, I'm glad we did this.
Speaker 1: My favorite triplets? Oh wow, what that's amazing? About to cry?
Speaker 1: We have to formally accept that I we accept. I
Speaker 1: think I will do that. I will, I will accept
Speaker 1: without any questions I've just had. Dan was like, gotta
Speaker 1: get the jags tighten. Wow, yes, we'll get up and
Speaker 1: give him a hug. Yes, yes, a hundred times. The
Speaker 1: show ends, of course, no human contact, no in contact please.
Speaker 1: Oh how exciting. Well, you know what that means. Case
Speaker 1: has got to update her website that three of us
Speaker 1: get to organize a bachelor party. Oh, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: exactly what West doesn't want. We have some thoughts. Is
Speaker 1: you might just paintball strip, club, poker, poker, a lot
Speaker 1: of card games. I thought maybe a trip to Big
Speaker 1: Bear or something that sounds fun. Oh yeah, whatever, you
Speaker 1: can go to the Bear. Sorry Erica that you were
Speaker 1: not in the mix on this one. Now it's okay.
Speaker 1: I felt privy because he texted me a little bit ago.
Speaker 1: I knew before you guys, she can get a Big
Speaker 1: Bear with us. Do we have do we really have
Speaker 1: to do the preview? If there's an football, it's a
Speaker 1: much better way down the show and the show. I
Speaker 1: think I think it's fine. Sorry, Titans fans win a
Speaker 1: couple of games, go to a ball game, tytoons I'm
Speaker 1: going to get that, but blame West with his big announcement. Sorry,
Speaker 1: Mark Brady is shadowy league figure behind the glass, wondering
Speaker 1: why he wasn't included in the wedding party, just on
Speaker 1: the fringe there. So is this? I think? Wait, are
Speaker 1: now we are close enough to the date. I believe
Speaker 1: those odds for David Eally being the best man seemed
Speaker 1: to be ballooning. They might have to take it off
Speaker 1: the board. I have already asked someone to be my
Speaker 1: best man, So David can I guess? Sure? Is it?
Speaker 1: Nick West? Nick? I like that too, that he's not
Speaker 1: too tall, Like when the four of us are standing
Speaker 1: up there, it's not like one giant tall person and
Speaker 1: you know he's about dan tight. Nick was at the
Speaker 1: hospital room. Man. Yeah, I like that he earned this,
Speaker 1: he said, Look, he looked the seven other Westling boys.
Speaker 1: I'm the best brother. I'm gonna earn this spot. Right,
Speaker 1: you're already stirring trouble, which is not your n pulled
Speaker 1: himself up by his bootstraps and earned was so excited.
Speaker 1: It is in April, right, very exciting. Got to book
Speaker 1: those flights. Yeah, I gotta get it going. I got
Speaker 1: someone to watch my kids. It's already shout out to
Speaker 1: Dean Rosenthal. Do you know all right? Do you know
Speaker 1: just leaving mine home alone? Uh. We will be back
Speaker 1: on UM tomorrow Thursday Night with a recap of the
Speaker 1: Tytoons and Jaguars. UM, so get excited for that, and
Speaker 1: then we'll preview the rest of the week fourteen games.
Speaker 1: Uh so make sure you check that out. And uh West, yes, yes, times, yes,
Speaker 1: all right, this Dan Hands is signing off for Quiet
Speaker 1: Storm Them now Man, the soon to me Mr Lakisha Jackson,
Speaker 1: the Old Boss, and the Louise caton Rickeye, Hollywood, Behind
Speaker 1: the Glass Seil Thursday Night,