Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast loves football. But welcome back
Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My
Speaker 1: name is Dan hans As I am joined in a
Speaker 1: room filled with heroes Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg
Speaker 1: rosen Bal. What is our boys? Hey Dan, Happy New Year,
Speaker 1: Happy New Year. I unfortunately was unable to attend your party.
Speaker 1: West My wife, for the first time in three years,
Speaker 1: decided to stay until midnight, and I could not abandon
Speaker 1: her in her time of our hard partying ways returning
Speaker 1: for one evening? What hard partying? Yeah? I mean, what
Speaker 1: how did the night unfull? You know what I'm I've
Speaker 1: come all the way around on New Year's I Love
Speaker 1: New Year's um My podcast buddy Bob and his wife
Speaker 1: and their two sons came over and it's like it's
Speaker 1: more centered around the kids and the parents. You know,
Speaker 1: some booze and drink eat some Well, what had happen
Speaker 1: to other podcast buddies? They weren't part of your evening?
Speaker 1: They weren't Mark. You knew you guys were having a
Speaker 1: great time because I saw the Instagram dance party that
Speaker 1: broke out and that looked like a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: There are more videos that will never make it so,
Speaker 1: but it was. I would say, you're get together seems
Speaker 1: a tad more mature than ours. I mean there's four
Speaker 1: children involved, so yes, I would say so between and seven,
Speaker 1: I feel like they were children at West's place. There
Speaker 1: were children, No, not children. It went on till about
Speaker 1: three in the morning. I think hub Hubba who said
Speaker 1: the old guys camp party. You know, we don't couple
Speaker 1: kids in their forties going nuts going on. Dudes in
Speaker 1: their forties, well, there were more than that. There were
Speaker 1: women in their twenties and thirties as well. Excuse me.
Speaker 1: It was pretty Yeah, it was still. I would say
Speaker 1: almost everyone was still there by three in the morning. Fair,
Speaker 1: very fair ratio between the genders. Sounds like a fun time.
Speaker 1: I have a little fomo. That's what the kids say.
Speaker 1: Still right, Erica, yea, they do. Erica sent me some
Speaker 1: photos on the texts very late at night about her night,
Speaker 1: and it seemed like she had a nice time as well. Well.
Speaker 1: Then you answered them yesterday afternoon and I said, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I just texting Dan photos like that's how
Speaker 1: he gets as um. Yeah, I wait until people are
Speaker 1: very very drunk, all right. That was fun though, But
Speaker 1: this is a new year. It's two thousand nineteen. It's
Speaker 1: our Wednesday show. Uh. You last heard from us on Monday. Uh,
Speaker 1: it was our New Horizons Monday podcast. And breaking down
Speaker 1: all the hirings and firings across the NFL. We will
Speaker 1: today's show. We will get more into what's going on
Speaker 1: in terms of teams looking for new people for their
Speaker 1: big chairs. Also the drama in Pittsburgh right now, which
Speaker 1: is substantial around a certain star wide receiver. Will open
Speaker 1: up the mail bag, get some questions about the playoffs,
Speaker 1: which of course start this weekend. It's just days away now.
Speaker 1: Very excited ing and uh, we'll close the show real
Speaker 1: quick by going through our regular season sandwich props and
Speaker 1: see how that all played out. So let us get going,
Speaker 1: starting with the news. He needs to be taught a
Speaker 1: lesson on that one. That's the same thing he did
Speaker 1: the flat gole last year. It was bullcrap right there.
Speaker 1: It is not approp reading the game. It's disrespectful the game,
Speaker 1: disrespect for the opponent. I'm ready to go down in
Speaker 1: here and take care of him. Bill's radio man um
Speaker 1: I wish I had his name, should have his name,
Speaker 1: But Bill's radio man as he has known on this episode. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's always fun. Though he's talking about Kiko al Mark.
Speaker 1: That was Mark Kelso. So. He was a player, so
Speaker 1: he could probably handle himself. Maybe not with Kiko Alonso
Speaker 1: who as an active player who was about twenty seven
Speaker 1: years old. But I thought it was like a regular
Speaker 1: play by play guy, like a Brad sham god type,
Speaker 1: that would be more fun saying he was going down.
Speaker 1: I mean Kelso maybe he's got the old he's the
Speaker 1: old jock at heart, so it makes more sense interviews
Speaker 1: to do. That's what those guys do. Right after the game.
Speaker 1: He's calling out Kiko Alonso for being unprofessional, fair enough,
Speaker 1: but he to break out of the booth as just
Speaker 1: a man in a suit and tie and suddenly start
Speaker 1: physically harassing a player, also slightly unprofessional a little bit
Speaker 1: a little bit, so it would be a bit of
Speaker 1: a wash. All right, let's get into a start with
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown. Uh, the Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver. It came
Speaker 1: out in little drips and drops on Monday that Brown
Speaker 1: was not necessarily out Sunday because of a knee injury.
Speaker 1: It was because he had a falling out with Ben Roethlisberger. Um,
Speaker 1: according to a d D kink of Wall threw a
Speaker 1: football at him during a walkthrough during a practice, has
Speaker 1: issues with the head coach, Mike Tomlin. We're hearing Greg Rosental. Uh.
Speaker 1: This is what we're hearing. Uh. And the reason why
Speaker 1: he didn't play Sundays because it was a coach's decision
Speaker 1: to sit the best wide receiver on the planet. Arguably,
Speaker 1: of course there's gonna be a lot of fall out there.
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin on Wednesday held a press conference where he described, well,
Speaker 1: let's listen to Mike Tomlin. This is what he had
Speaker 1: to say about Antonio Brown not playing on Sunday. Woke
Speaker 1: up Sunday morning, got a call from his agent, Drew Rosenhouse.
Speaker 1: Drew express Uh that he was feeling better and that
Speaker 1: he would potentially be able to participate. Outlined the Drew
Speaker 1: that decisions weren't made like that, but I would be
Speaker 1: interested in visiting with him in person at the stadium
Speaker 1: prior to the game. Um, but playing wasn't on the
Speaker 1: menu and Greg Uh. There's also reports that UH Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown has requested a trade from Pittsburgh, but his cap
Speaker 1: situation makes that difficult. There's a lot of bad news
Speaker 1: around the Steelers and a season that had too much drama.
Speaker 1: It seems like that's bad reporting um by someone who
Speaker 1: gets a lot of reporting wrong. There was um like that.
Speaker 1: There seems to be pretty clear on our network that
Speaker 1: there was no formal request for a trade. That he
Speaker 1: basically was popping off, you know, if you're pcing together
Speaker 1: in a dit kinkaal as he said, you know, really
Speaker 1: broke the story that he popped off and kind of
Speaker 1: yelled out loud, even maybe during Wednesday's practice, like I
Speaker 1: want to get out of here. That's not a trade request? Right?
Speaker 1: He does it like, that's not a trade request. Now
Speaker 1: what he does? He? What do you want to get traded? Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe that would make sense for everyone. I was
Speaker 1: surprised that on our air, Ian Rappaport thought it'd be
Speaker 1: really hard to do and it's very unlikely in situations
Speaker 1: like this, and just reading between the lines, that makes
Speaker 1: me feel like maybe the Steelers don't really want to
Speaker 1: do it, because why is it hard to do? It's
Speaker 1: hard for the Steelers. They would take a pretty big
Speaker 1: cap hit just to get rid of him. But I
Speaker 1: think Antonio Brown would be an exceptionally attractive guy to
Speaker 1: go get despite everything, Ian's reasoning was, well, this guy's
Speaker 1: a headcase. He still do this money. Fifteen million dollars
Speaker 1: a year with no bonus or guaranteed money to give
Speaker 1: to him is a bargain. I mean that's less than
Speaker 1: Andy we Watkins is making. And yeah he's a headache,
Speaker 1: but is he a bigger headache than than plenty of
Speaker 1: people that we've seen get jobs again and again and again.
Speaker 1: This is a guy's a first ballot Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1: I just don't think the Steelers want to trade him.
Speaker 1: That's my early little take. They're just trying to like
Speaker 1: scare him. Well, I mean, Mike Tomlins said it. Well,
Speaker 1: they they're they've been trying to scare him straight for
Speaker 1: three years, like he's been a pain. And here's the
Speaker 1: other side of maybe that's why they're finally hitting a
Speaker 1: tipping point. Mike Tomlin called it their darkest hour when
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown chose to essentially abandoned the team. And they're
Speaker 1: coming off a deeply disappointing season and Tenio Brown, as
Speaker 1: great as he is for what it's worth, will enter
Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen season on the wrong side of thirty.
Speaker 1: You would wonder if they would be tempted because they
Speaker 1: have this feeling they need a culture change, a culture change.
Speaker 1: Jesse James, Uh, they're tight end. He might be out
Speaker 1: the door, but he said uh. He likened the team
Speaker 1: to the Kardashians. There's always something going on and that
Speaker 1: was distraction all season for the team. This this all started, well,
Speaker 1: you can go back a couple of years, but in September,
Speaker 1: if you'll recall, Antonio Brown tweeted, trade me and find
Speaker 1: out after someone said he was a product of Big
Speaker 1: Ben Um and then he didn't show up for work
Speaker 1: that day either. And after that, a couple of days
Speaker 1: later he said, obviously I don't want to be traded.
Speaker 1: He just does these things where he speaks out, he
Speaker 1: goes off the handle. Two years to Januaries ago, we
Speaker 1: were joined. This where Big Ben accused him of pouting
Speaker 1: and running the wrong routes Um. This was after all
Speaker 1: the Facebook stuff where he released the video in the
Speaker 1: locker room. There were talks about him getting traded at
Speaker 1: that time too, and instead of trading him, they signed
Speaker 1: it in. They signed him to an extension. I think
Speaker 1: at Bouchett from the Pittsburgh Post. Casette said it, well,
Speaker 1: Brown is brilliant, but unmanageable, and that's the quagmire that
Speaker 1: the Steelers are in right now. I mean, obviously, because
Speaker 1: of his talent, they're gonna put up with so much more.
Speaker 1: But it's not a it's just not a good look.
Speaker 1: And I thought Mike Tomlin was pretty honest on Wednesday
Speaker 1: when he talked through the process of what happened and
Speaker 1: after all the rattling off at Big Ben and stuff,
Speaker 1: that he essentially he did have a knee issue or
Speaker 1: discomfort during the week and he was on the injury report,
Speaker 1: but that he became sort of unfindable from Friday and
Speaker 1: Saturday into Sunday, to the point where Drew Rosenhouse, his agent,
Speaker 1: is the one who called up Mike Tomlin and said, hey,
Speaker 1: Sunday morning, he's fine, He's ready to play. And Mike
Speaker 1: Tomlins said, that's not how this works. Like you, you,
Speaker 1: we are moving on with our game plan. We're moving
Speaker 1: on with the players that are here. And I mean,
Speaker 1: I can completely understand imagine any job you're in where
Speaker 1: someone just goes totally a wall at the most critical
Speaker 1: time when you need them there, when you're part of
Speaker 1: your team with the Super Bowl, you know, right still
Speaker 1: on the line. I mean, all they needed was the
Speaker 1: Browns to to get about fifteen more yards and kick
Speaker 1: a field goal, and they're in the playoffs with a
Speaker 1: home game here, and they barely won that game against
Speaker 1: the Bengals. Losing Antonio Brown was a huge reason. He
Speaker 1: just quit on. He quit on the team, which you
Speaker 1: would think would be kind of like the number one
Speaker 1: most unforgivable thing a player could do, because, as the
Speaker 1: report didn't suggest, as late as Friday, they still thought
Speaker 1: he was gonna play like it got pretty late where
Speaker 1: they started to realize, oh wait, he's just not gonna
Speaker 1: be showing up. He's not going to be available for us,
Speaker 1: Like if the Steelers don't do anything, basically, if they
Speaker 1: don't if if this is just a stern warning to
Speaker 1: me that just says you can do whatever you want.
Speaker 1: And I think tailors can't get away with it. And
Speaker 1: Jesse James is probably speaking from many, many people in
Speaker 1: that locker room who were fed up with Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: the person. Then he puts out on Instagram, Antonio Brown,
Speaker 1: I am divinely blessed with free will. I utilized that gift,
Speaker 1: choosing to take charge of my life. Semi colon. Nice
Speaker 1: use with semi colon to express the creativity, vitality, and
Speaker 1: wholeness that truly defined me. I mean, that's this is fine.
Speaker 1: You can put all these pretty words out. It's essentially
Speaker 1: I The martelling one to me was responding to George
Speaker 1: Kittle tweeting, Adam, you know, sup Antonio Brown and then
Speaker 1: you know, putting the like I heart emojis above it,
Speaker 1: being like, yeah, so he he knows what he's doing.
Speaker 1: He's just trying to stoke this storyline that hey, come
Speaker 1: come get me teams. It's a little early in the
Speaker 1: off season to really know, but you kind of figure
Speaker 1: this is going to be a story when we go
Speaker 1: to the combine in February. Brilliant Yeah, absolutely, brilliant player.
Speaker 1: But I'm already exhausted by it. And like you're saying,
Speaker 1: combines at the end of February, this story will probably
Speaker 1: be hot from now until then and probably beyond. And
Speaker 1: I and I and I like that. I think let's
Speaker 1: go trade for him. This makes sense. Get rid of him, Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: He'd get a first. Well, he's also breaking my number
Speaker 1: one rule when these teams go into dirt nap territory.
Speaker 1: I don't need to still be hearing about you at
Speaker 1: press competition. They're trying to go away. This is the Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not even like Lillivian Bell. It happened, you know,
Speaker 1: Olivian bells up there. I mean, this is one of
Speaker 1: the greats of all time. You're supposed to be in
Speaker 1: a boss playing, well, you're just being an urn until
Speaker 1: next September. And a little whispers here and there like
Speaker 1: some eighteen hundreds lady in a white flowing dress over
Speaker 1: a lake with fog. Don't need that a lifetime movie. Everyone. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff cooking, of course. Or a
Speaker 1: quarter of the league is looking for a head coach
Speaker 1: right now, uh in the process, and interviews are all
Speaker 1: over the place right now. Mark Mike McCarthy is interviewed
Speaker 1: with or has interviewed with the Jets, and will interview
Speaker 1: with the Browns I believe tomorrow. But he will not
Speaker 1: interview with the Cardinals. So we could we could touch
Speaker 1: on and we could throw out anybody, could throw out
Speaker 1: any coaches out there that are floating around in the
Speaker 1: interview process. But I just want to uh focus on
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, who seemed to be in a difficult spot.
Speaker 1: They make the decision to go one and done with
Speaker 1: Steve Wilkes, which they felt it was a move they
Speaker 1: had to make. But even despite having Josh Roseen, a
Speaker 1: top ten pick quarterback, it doesn't seem to be a
Speaker 1: place that people want to go because Eric the Enemy,
Speaker 1: the Chief's offensive coordinator, and Mike McCarthy have outright turned
Speaker 1: down an interview with the team. And that would make
Speaker 1: me very nervous if I was Jason Zumwalt and the
Speaker 1: rest of Cardinals army. I think it's basically, you know,
Speaker 1: they offered Mike McCarthy full power, which would have meant
Speaker 1: by by general manager Steve Kim, and then he turned
Speaker 1: that down. Mike mc carthey has options, and it's it
Speaker 1: sounds like from various reporting, and unless Mike McCarthy is
Speaker 1: totally into when wowed by a certain situation, he's not
Speaker 1: going to, you know, take something less than that. And
Speaker 1: the Cardinals same with Eric b Enemy, who's turning into
Speaker 1: a hot name himself. The Cardinals have one of the
Speaker 1: worst rosters in the league. They've just fired a coach
Speaker 1: after one year, So what situation where will you be
Speaker 1: a year from now if you're Eric b Enemy and
Speaker 1: take the same type of job. It's there. There are
Speaker 1: many options out there. This is the least attractive by far,
Speaker 1: but we I think Dan made a great point. I
Speaker 1: think it was on our Twitter show about you know
Speaker 1: the hot takes that come this time a year and
Speaker 1: who looks good and who looks bad like maybe and
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy and Eric the Enemy turning them down might
Speaker 1: help them. You know, a bunch of coaches turn them
Speaker 1: down who were fired quickly in the Bruce Arians high
Speaker 1: encycle and then they got stuck with Bruce Arians. It's
Speaker 1: just so hard to know. They are going to interview
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury, who is the USC offensive coordinator who just
Speaker 1: was fired by Texas Tech, who also I believe has
Speaker 1: another in view. Adam Gaze I think is gonna interview there.
Speaker 1: Supposedly he was high on Josh Rosen in the draft.
Speaker 1: Dolphins were maybe gonna take in Dan Campbell, so who
Speaker 1: who knows. It's just weird. It is interesting that McCarthy
Speaker 1: is kind of like the big cheese on campus. So
Speaker 1: this organization is the same were in a year ago,
Speaker 1: totally devoid of talent, nobody wants to coach them, and
Speaker 1: now they're in the playoffs. Maybe Wow, Josh mc daniels,
Speaker 1: seemed like you wanted to coach him. With Andrews, they
Speaker 1: didn't get a guy. How often do you not get
Speaker 1: a guy after the Super Bowl? Yeah? B enemy? Uh, Eric,
Speaker 1: because they thought they had an agreement with with the
Speaker 1: number one guy in the market. Eric. B enemy also
Speaker 1: has like limited time. He has so many interviews and
Speaker 1: they're still in the playoffs. But yeah, he's basically saying Nick, sorry,
Speaker 1: and I have I know. I know you, Greg, I
Speaker 1: know your football philosophies and your takes. It is very
Speaker 1: much on your radar that people like this Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: figure so much right now, Well, I like it. I
Speaker 1: kind of want him to land with the Jets. As
Speaker 1: a Patriots fan, I wouldn't mind it. Actually, so were
Speaker 1: of two from minds there. I know you you despise
Speaker 1: McCarthy as a coach. I don't despise him. I am
Speaker 1: yet to be I'm yet to be convinced that he's
Speaker 1: a huge value add but he he was a good
Speaker 1: coach there for a long time. There's no doubt. I
Speaker 1: think part of What makes him um so attractive is
Speaker 1: the great unknown for everyone else. And Macarthy's like, well,
Speaker 1: this guy is like a six hundred winning percentage. He
Speaker 1: has a super Bowl and we know he's not going
Speaker 1: to collapse once he has the responsibility. And I think
Speaker 1: that is an attractive quality to have, especially this year
Speaker 1: with eight. I think experience matters absolutely. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he's bringing you a big offensive mind or not.
Speaker 1: That's more than like I think he was in two
Speaker 1: thousand six. I don't know if he isn't. He kind
Speaker 1: of works with the Jets. In my opinion, I think
Speaker 1: that would be an interesting fit, all right. Jim Bob
Speaker 1: Couter is a man that was once seen as a
Speaker 1: gifted offensive mind. He was the offensive coordinator in Detroit.
Speaker 1: But the two sides have it's another conscious uncoupling we're
Speaker 1: being told, which is always interesting this time of a
Speaker 1: year mark when we're told that the two sides agreed
Speaker 1: that one guy will no longer be getting have access
Speaker 1: to the building. Well, I don't know if I buy it,
Speaker 1: but that's how it was presented. Jim Bob Cooder out
Speaker 1: as Lions offensive coordinator. I mean it's you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's sort of a cod ata. Whenever you're coordinator, a
Speaker 1: new coach comes in to keep the role. And Matthew
Speaker 1: Stafford really pushed for him. Uh when Matt Patricia was
Speaker 1: hired to keep to keep Jim Bob Cooter around for
Speaker 1: obvious reasons. There was a lot of success there with
Speaker 1: the two of them working together, and it completely completely
Speaker 1: fell off the rails this year. And I don't know,
Speaker 1: these guys he'll get he'll another job two weeks from now.
Speaker 1: That's how this works. You know, they're not You're not
Speaker 1: you're not pushed into another field. You you don't become
Speaker 1: a math teacher. One of your friends will hire you
Speaker 1: to do something else with another team within ten days.
Speaker 1: The honeymoon process. And I don't know if maybe it's you,
Speaker 1: Greg Um, maybe connected Patricia's arrival to this, but the
Speaker 1: honeymoon ended like in a very nasty way for Coutter
Speaker 1: and Stafford. Couter was given that, you know, like louded
Speaker 1: as this guy that helped fixed Matt Stafford and now
Speaker 1: he's unemployed. I mean he lasted three years in that
Speaker 1: job ultimately, and even longer with the organization. That's like
Speaker 1: that's the over under half the coaches don't even last
Speaker 1: three years in these coordinator jobs. Now that means that
Speaker 1: you did a good but not great job, and it
Speaker 1: does make sense. I don't know if Patricia will bring
Speaker 1: in some Patriots Lackey. Uh, maybe they're chatt O'Shea. Is
Speaker 1: the receiver's coaches an opportunity along time? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. He made it clear in the season
Speaker 1: any press conference Matt Patricia did that he wants to
Speaker 1: run the ball, that he believes you have to run
Speaker 1: the ball, and that's why their offense is gonna be based.
Speaker 1: The Jaguars are also making changes on their coaching staff.
Speaker 1: The team fired running backs coach Tyrone Wheatley in addition
Speaker 1: to three other assistance on Monday. Uh. It is notable,
Speaker 1: especially because it comes just one day after Leonard Fournette
Speaker 1: and t J. Yelden were blasted um by Tom Coughlin,
Speaker 1: who runs the operation over there, for being completely disengaged
Speaker 1: and disconnected from the game on Sunday, the twenty three
Speaker 1: loss to Houston. Coughlin rip both those players is disrespectful
Speaker 1: and selfish, and I suppose um West he connected the dots.
Speaker 1: Uh that Tyrone Wheatley shouldn't be there if the team
Speaker 1: is that out of sorts in the running back group.
Speaker 1: So they fired Tyrone Wheatlely, they fired Nathaniel hack It
Speaker 1: what a month ago their offensive coordinator. Be interesting to
Speaker 1: see what that offensive coaching staff is like and whether
Speaker 1: for Net will be back. Maron said wow Monday that
Speaker 1: they have they avoided the guarantees on his contract do
Speaker 1: that suspension. If you remember going back to last summer,
Speaker 1: this is why Roe Kwan Smith held out with the Bears.
Speaker 1: It was that language about whether you can avoid guarantees
Speaker 1: for something like a suspension. And for Net was terrible
Speaker 1: this year. It seems hard for me to believe they
Speaker 1: would cut ties with him. But this guy has a
Speaker 1: career yards per carry average of three point seven and
Speaker 1: I believe he's due to make about seven million next year.
Speaker 1: He hasn't played like a good running back yet. And
Speaker 1: if you're Dave Caldwell, the GM was apparently unkillable. And
Speaker 1: then inside that organization, going back to your first round
Speaker 1: picks or Luke jokel out of the NFL, Blake Bortles
Speaker 1: out of out of Jacksonville, seemingly soon. Dante Fowler traded
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey. That worked out obviously in Leonard for Nette,
Speaker 1: thanks for Netta, Uh for Nett. This this scared straight
Speaker 1: thing is straight out of the playbook of when they
Speaker 1: thought Blake Bortles wasn't taking his job too seriously and
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, let's scare him straight for an offseason.
Speaker 1: Wasted another three years on him. Uh. In other news,
Speaker 1: another press conference this week, Dave Gettleman, the New York
Speaker 1: Giants general manager. Obviously it's a big story around the
Speaker 1: dune about what happens at the quarterback position. Eli Manning
Speaker 1: will be thirty eight uh this month, I believe, and uh,
Speaker 1: Gettleman is being asked what is the future at the
Speaker 1: quarterback position. This is what he had to say. We
Speaker 1: will do what is in the best interest of the
Speaker 1: New New York Football Giants. What we're trying to do
Speaker 1: here is build sustained success that takes brutal honesty and
Speaker 1: some tough decisions. West Gedtleman said, everything is on the table.
Speaker 1: I believe the Giants are forty five and sixty seven
Speaker 1: since the Super Bowl victory over the Patriots in two
Speaker 1: was that two thousand twelve, the winter of Yeah, the
Speaker 1: two thousand eleven season. Over the last six years, Eli
Speaker 1: Manning is one of the statistically one of the least
Speaker 1: productive quarterbacks in the NFL. Um it strikes me that David,
Speaker 1: that David Geedtlman should keep his options open. And he
Speaker 1: said something interesting like, when you're looking for a girlfriend.
Speaker 1: He didn't say this, but that's how it came up
Speaker 1: to me. You the worst thing you can do is
Speaker 1: fixate on wanting to have a girlfriend. You have to
Speaker 1: let it happen naturally. And he made that connection with
Speaker 1: a quarterback. The worst thing you can do is panic
Speaker 1: and say I have to have a quarterback. Let it
Speaker 1: happen naturally organically. I mean, it's a little bit of
Speaker 1: a change that they're vocally saying they're open to getting
Speaker 1: rid of Lie man That's a change. But I guess
Speaker 1: I'll believe it when I see it. There's not a
Speaker 1: lot of options. It doesn't see that would be a
Speaker 1: huge upgrade over you, like, I don't know, Well, they're
Speaker 1: the team that and I listened, Well, it's I think
Speaker 1: it's more getting rid of Eli, like and then just
Speaker 1: whether it be Tyrod or or Tannehill or what, are
Speaker 1: you making your team better? I know. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: like those are what the options are going to be,
Speaker 1: that he doesn't want to force it. He didn't like
Speaker 1: they made the choice that they didn't like Sam Darnald.
Speaker 1: I mean that's what they said, and they love ste
Speaker 1: Kuon Barkley, but they were essentially saying they didn't think
Speaker 1: Sam Donald was was a guy or the guy. They mean,
Speaker 1: how's that going to look three years from now? I
Speaker 1: get Sequon Barkley is an all time so he doesn't
Speaker 1: want to force it and maybe he doesn't like any
Speaker 1: of these free agents and keep the fans happy with
Speaker 1: another five and eleven seasons. Uh. Finally, in the news
Speaker 1: um before the season, I spoke of my ultimate dream
Speaker 1: of every team in the league going eight and eate.
Speaker 1: Extreme parody is what you would call it. Uh, And
Speaker 1: that everyone's happy. Then, like Mark, you just had a
Speaker 1: seven eight in one season, a lot of fun. I
Speaker 1: would have been happier with eight eight though to your
Speaker 1: point there you go, well, guess what, this is the
Speaker 1: first time in the history of the NFL since it
Speaker 1: went to a sixteen game schedule. Uh, you know forty
Speaker 1: some odd years ago that no one won and eight
Speaker 1: I mean no one went eight and eight. Not only
Speaker 1: did you not get your wish, it's almost as if
Speaker 1: the football gods are just sort of up there laughing
Speaker 1: at smiting me. Just unnecessary football gods. It's it's it's
Speaker 1: sort of surprising because it was also a year where
Speaker 1: overall the league was kind of crowded in the middle,
Speaker 1: like it was. There weren't as many extreme records. There
Speaker 1: was no team above thirteen wins, which is very rare,
Speaker 1: and there was only two of those, and there were
Speaker 1: no teams below three wins, and there was only one
Speaker 1: of those right that the Cardinals. So it was everyone
Speaker 1: was packed in the middle. I feel like everyone was
Speaker 1: very even this year. You would have expected a lot
Speaker 1: of eight. I'm really disappointed. And finally in the news
Speaker 1: and now another edition of Keeping Up a Bowing Yes.
Speaker 1: The German Man tight end Mourts bow Ringer bouncing around
Speaker 1: the league. He's looking for a home, he's looking for
Speaker 1: a shot. Moved from wide receiver to tight end. On Monday,
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals signed five players. Tight end Maurits Bowringer,
Speaker 1: safety Demetrius Cox, center Brad lundblade tight end Andrew Volarette,
Speaker 1: Vlaurette Volert and White and wide receiver Kermit Whitfield to
Speaker 1: reserve future contracts. And that was another addition of keeping
Speaker 1: up with both. All right, let's get to the mailbag.
Speaker 1: A lot to dig in too, because this is that mark.
Speaker 1: This is the fun time of year, isn't it. I
Speaker 1: enjoyed the summer year. A lot of teams have to
Speaker 1: look in the mirror and say, we suck. We need
Speaker 1: to do some things differently. Um, we suck so much
Speaker 1: that we've fired a lot of people and need to
Speaker 1: find better people to do a better job next time
Speaker 1: speaking in the mirror. Tomorrow Thursday is our wild Card
Speaker 1: preview podcast, and it's gonna be real fun because not
Speaker 1: only were we gonna break down uh for really fun games,
Speaker 1: but we're coming down the stretch of our picks mark
Speaker 1: on a historic winning streak up to eleven straight. I
Speaker 1: believe maybe it's ten. I thought it was eleven. Then
Speaker 1: a one game lead on West, the two game lead
Speaker 1: on myself and Greg who's hotter than Matt Lower in
Speaker 1: the NBC picks back as one I think involved. I mean,
Speaker 1: why do we need to now it's now? You went
Speaker 1: too far? That would insult the sanctity of some of
Speaker 1: the Great Picks TV competitions over the years. Matt lower business, Okay, sorry,
Speaker 1: I apologize, all right. So we asked you, the listeners
Speaker 1: to send in some questions. Uh, well, we were talking
Speaker 1: about Antonio Brown. If Antonio Brown were to be traded,
Speaker 1: where to Eric Jensen asks, could the Jets pull it off?
Speaker 1: There is this wild scenario where year two of the
Speaker 1: Sam Donald experience has an offensive minded head coach that
Speaker 1: I could believe in, and then Levy on Bell in
Speaker 1: the backfield and Antonio Brown on the outside, with Robbie
Speaker 1: Anderson on the other side, Chris Burned in a tight
Speaker 1: end and Improve a first round pick on the offensive line,
Speaker 1: and the Jets are scoring thirty points a game? What
Speaker 1: could go wrong by repairing Bell and Brown with the Jets?
Speaker 1: Like probably every day you could think that could It's
Speaker 1: funny you say that, but because you're absolutely right, it's
Speaker 1: probably a terrible idea. But I would sign off on
Speaker 1: it in a second. One of them would be nice.
Speaker 1: It is funny that the Jets are kind of the
Speaker 1: first team that everyone attacked matches in these situations. But
Speaker 1: I think it makes sense because of the cap space,
Speaker 1: because of the ownership and because of kind of the
Speaker 1: desperation he could the Steelers do something like trade him
Speaker 1: somewhere he absolutely does not want to go. Does he
Speaker 1: have does he have final say over such the trade?
Speaker 1: You could send him deep into the nether world. Doesn't
Speaker 1: have much say. I mean, he could make it clear
Speaker 1: and make it terrible, but he doesn't. He's not something
Speaker 1: where he needs a new contract, So I think they
Speaker 1: can send him where they want. All right, Uh, let's
Speaker 1: throw one out. Did they ever answer that's it? What
Speaker 1: the Jets makes sense to me? Well, no team in
Speaker 1: the league has more cap space, right than the Cults.
Speaker 1: How about the Cults get Antonio Brown and Levy on Bell.
Speaker 1: That's not going to fit their culture? What's like keep
Speaker 1: them away from my boys. I've heard Chris Ballard speak before,
Speaker 1: and I don't think there's any chance he's trying. Does
Speaker 1: feel like Mike mccagnan move send him to the desert?
Speaker 1: The Cardinals? Ouch? Uh? This from Russell Wilson's deep ball.
Speaker 1: What is the defining NFL game for each of you?
Speaker 1: I'll start Monday Night Football Rams Chiefs, not just because
Speaker 1: of the outrageous nature of the game. In final um,
Speaker 1: double fifty burger and all that. But how the NFL
Speaker 1: kind of very quickly shifted almost immediately after that suspiciously
Speaker 1: so uh and and swung back to defense winning games
Speaker 1: in the Baltimore Ravens rise, I just thought that was
Speaker 1: funny how it went from well, this is the future,
Speaker 1: this is the league. Now we're arena football, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, like defense said whoa slow down
Speaker 1: running games said hey, hey we have a we have
Speaker 1: a voice. Think was still drying on the two thousand
Speaker 1: think pieces that came out after that Chiefs Rams game,
Speaker 1: and for that reason, and it could flip again next
Speaker 1: two weeks. I the word defining makes me jump off
Speaker 1: years and have a similar answer, But it's Ravens chief
Speaker 1: because that to me was the game of kind of
Speaker 1: the contrast of what ended up happening in the money
Speaker 1: time of the season and was me to me, the
Speaker 1: most fascinating game of the year to see that that
Speaker 1: study and contrast Lamar Jackson kind of representing this rookie
Speaker 1: quarterback class two who finished off so strong, and the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: I guess are in both these games because to me
Speaker 1: they are kind of the defining team of the year.
Speaker 1: I know they didn't end up with the very best record,
Speaker 1: but they were the most compelling and they were kind
Speaker 1: of the one representing what was going on. And but
Speaker 1: the Ravens, We're so fascinating that matchup of just the
Speaker 1: clash of styles and how good it was, and it
Speaker 1: might be the most memorable moment. That are that the
Speaker 1: m v P pet mahomes head. I think those are
Speaker 1: both excellent answers, and I agree. I would say the
Speaker 1: highest level of football was played between the Saints and Rams. MHM.
Speaker 1: For me, it's funny. The Saints Steelers was another one
Speaker 1: I thought about. That was such a good game. That's
Speaker 1: that's definitely top three for me. I would go, and
Speaker 1: this is more personal, but when Cleveland beat the j
Speaker 1: in Week three, I'm sorry, Dan, there's nothing to do
Speaker 1: with the jail. It was, but it was the rise
Speaker 1: of Baker Mayfield. It got rid of a lot of
Speaker 1: ghosts and you kind of could feel the tide turning
Speaker 1: for a Browns team that had been such a laughing
Speaker 1: stock for so long. Jets Broncos in Week five, that
Speaker 1: was also a pretty good A lot of people weak
Speaker 1: for the Broncos. All Right, here's another question. Uh, this
Speaker 1: is from Leonard len Shoals. Are the Texans with their
Speaker 1: week offensive line a true contender? I'm gonna spin off
Speaker 1: this a little bit. You guys can talk about Houston's
Speaker 1: offensive line if you wish. But is there a team
Speaker 1: in the mix that you give no chance to win
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? No, this is one year. I think
Speaker 1: all twelve have have a chance. But if you had
Speaker 1: to rank them, who would be number of Cowboys would
Speaker 1: be twelve for me, Texans would be twelve for me.
Speaker 1: I think all the a f C would be higher
Speaker 1: up for me than than the Eagles and the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: and probably even the Seahawks, because I think all those
Speaker 1: a FC teams have an even better chance than that
Speaker 1: an NFC want to make it. Yeah, I think the
Speaker 1: Saints and Rams make the lower echelon wild card NFC
Speaker 1: team is less probable, But you have the Eagles ahead
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys. No, those two would be kind of
Speaker 1: at at the bottom, especially because the Eagles tough draw
Speaker 1: if they had to do it. I don't think that
Speaker 1: the Bears were not winning the Super Bowl. Sorry, I
Speaker 1: know I'm not a I think I really do think
Speaker 1: this is one of those years and they're going to
Speaker 1: they're going to drop a bomb on someone in the
Speaker 1: wild card round and then get knocked out the next week.
Speaker 1: And I've been saying that for two months. A team
Speaker 1: has not made it to the super Bowl from the
Speaker 1: wild card round since the Ravens, which is wild because
Speaker 1: at that point, I think one had made it every
Speaker 1: year for about five six straight years, and many of
Speaker 1: them one of them most years for a while. And
Speaker 1: I don't think it means anything, but I just think
Speaker 1: it's been too long since we've had some of these
Speaker 1: some of these teams playing this weekend. We're due, We're
Speaker 1: overdue to have them make it. This is the year
Speaker 1: that happened. Mark, Why don't you throw one out there?
Speaker 1: He just wanted from Trevor Crawling. He asked if more
Speaker 1: teams need to get their act together, operate as the
Speaker 1: Patriots do and make the head coach the g M.
Speaker 1: Do we need more of that? Do we need less
Speaker 1: of that? Craig? You answer, well, there's only a couple
Speaker 1: of teams that do it this. I don't even know.
Speaker 1: Is there any other team really other than Andy Reids
Speaker 1: sort of his like Belichick. There's Pete Carroll sort of
Speaker 1: like Belichick. No, I don't think teams more teams like
Speaker 1: a lot of coaches, almost need less power. Very liberal
Speaker 1: with the connecting of getting your act together and installing.
Speaker 1: That was actually my word. Trevor Crawling did not say
Speaker 1: get their act together right through. There's only so many
Speaker 1: Bill Belichicks. I mean the Raiders are doing it. John
Speaker 1: Gruen really runs that. And I think Hirne mcmack was
Speaker 1: kind of a sign because Mike Mayock's not a traditional
Speaker 1: he's not a general manager that's managing entire huge staff.
Speaker 1: He's a personnel guy. Cardinals just offered it to Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 1: He didn't want it. Belichick is doing a little bit
Speaker 1: better than John Gruden in that. Nathan Sherry last question,
Speaker 1: the Eagles word of trade, Carson Wentz. What would they
Speaker 1: get in return? Multiple first round picks, maybe three, and
Speaker 1: a player to be named Darren Sprawls. These Eagles fans,
Speaker 1: give me a break. They gotta con down. All right,
Speaker 1: there you go, there's the mailback. Finally, Uh, let's go
Speaker 1: through our regular season sandwich props. Round it up. See
Speaker 1: how everyone did. We'll start with Chris Westling You ready, West,
Speaker 1: But let's do it. Uh, Sam Donald does not start
Speaker 1: start week one for the Jets, and um, Greg took
Speaker 1: you up on that, and Greg got Adrian Peterson rushes
Speaker 1: for more yards than any thirty three year old running
Speaker 1: back in history. This was a clean sweep, three three sandwiches,
Speaker 1: and it was a little bit devious. And I respect
Speaker 1: you for it, Wes, because John Riggins is the oldest
Speaker 1: running back to ever. Uh. Yes, it was not devious,
Speaker 1: said he did talk about it. Try to you a compliment,
Speaker 1: not a compliment for me. It is it was a
Speaker 1: little devious, and in a great way because it wasn't
Speaker 1: the best season ever buy an old running back. Uh,
Speaker 1: that is Riggo. But Rigo did it at thirty four
Speaker 1: and you said specifically thirty three. So in this instance,
Speaker 1: being more narrow worked and it was very It was
Speaker 1: very tight. I'm just looking because I'm like, didn't Gore
Speaker 1: top a thousand at thirty three? And he did? Peterson
Speaker 1: got him by seventeen yards. So it came down to
Speaker 1: those last couple of runs there. West, Well, how about that? Well,
Speaker 1: you feel good that you took out Gore. Even if
Speaker 1: I lost this one, I feel fine because Peterson would
Speaker 1: have had about twelve or thirteen hundred yards. If the
Speaker 1: entire offense didn't get injured out before. He had a
Speaker 1: great year. I think he earned himself a job next year, right,
Speaker 1: Someone's got to give him a job. He'll be sitting
Speaker 1: there in June, late July looking for a team again.
Speaker 1: A member of the two thousand seventeen draft class will
Speaker 1: lead the league and interceptions thrown? Who was who was
Speaker 1: in the seventeen class? Mitch Drabinski did, Shaun Watson, Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1: I think Donald actually led the league with fifteen, which
Speaker 1: is not a lot for a lead league leader. If
Speaker 1: you want to look at one stat that really point
Speaker 1: at point Rothlisberger had more, didn't he? I think I
Speaker 1: think Donald might have led the league. I thought I
Speaker 1: read that this week, and and then the total was Rathlisberger.
Speaker 1: Well there you go. Never mind, but just by one more,
Speaker 1: you're right, sixteen. It is. It's funny like everyone goes
Speaker 1: crazy when quarterbacks throw interceptions now, like oh what a
Speaker 1: terrible play, like he blew it. And it's shocking how
Speaker 1: many fewer interceptions quarterbacks throw than even eight years ago.
Speaker 1: It's so much less. No one throws interceptions hard to
Speaker 1: intercept the bubble screen. Right, that's fair. Baker Mayfield wins
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Month more often than Sam Donald. Donald
Speaker 1: didn't do anything against the Patriots, which I think is
Speaker 1: going to cost me. So I think you're going to
Speaker 1: get a sandwich off me. There was so right now
Speaker 1: you're five and seven. There was also because I thought
Speaker 1: Donald's best game that was the week he could have
Speaker 1: run one Rookie of the Week and they gave it
Speaker 1: to Baker Mayfield that week as well, which was I
Speaker 1: don't know how these things. Darne is definitely not getting
Speaker 1: it for December now. I don't think yeah year, it's
Speaker 1: a six and seven less. We're all around, all right,
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, you have the of course, the iconic um
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns New York Jets prediction. Do you want me to?
Speaker 1: I think we should read it the best. What what
Speaker 1: is listening here? On the go get my lunch dot
Speaker 1: org site. Week three, Gang Green will hop out to
Speaker 1: at least a ten point lead. The Thursday night football
Speaker 1: talking heads will crow over Sam Darnald, while the Browns
Speaker 1: look like the Sitting Duck in primetime, same old story.
Speaker 1: Dan and Mark will go silent on the podcast group
Speaker 1: text thread Gregg and West follows suit, knowing this game
Speaker 1: could fracture the group for a thousand generations. Always looking
Speaker 1: good for the plucky one in one Jets until Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield enters the game, dealing with at least a ten
Speaker 1: point deficit and time ticking away. Mayfield battles through some
Speaker 1: ups and downs to baffle the Jets defense and route
Speaker 1: to a rousing comeback that serves as the opening chapter
Speaker 1: and a rivalry that sees Donald and Baker are going
Speaker 1: punch for punch and some of the biggest a fc
Speaker 1: SO showdowns in conference history. While the Patriots begin of
Speaker 1: fourteen years streak of missing the playoffs. You probably should
Speaker 1: have just ended it a little soon. Well, it would
Speaker 1: be dishonest. I think you guys gave me that last
Speaker 1: little part of it just for just in the spirit
Speaker 1: of it. Yes, because that was amazing, Which is why
Speaker 1: when you go over and over about the Philly Ordinary,
Speaker 1: you won't let that one go. I saw your little
Speaker 1: tweet about the Philly Ordinary, and you know what, You're
Speaker 1: just on the wrong side of history and everyone knows it.
Speaker 1: And at this point I just accepted the fact that
Speaker 1: you're in You're so off, how many teams are running
Speaker 1: the Philly Special now, I think every team essentially. How
Speaker 1: many teams are making helmet catches. I've never actually someone
Speaker 1: sent me like a ten minute mash up of like
Speaker 1: eighteen helmet catches that have happened in the last since
Speaker 1: that Super They're like all in college football. No, they're
Speaker 1: all pro. Every single one of them are NFL Helmet
Speaker 1: catches happens all the time. At least one game will
Speaker 1: be relocated due to weather, natural disaster, or massive unrest.
Speaker 1: I recused myself from this, but Mark was given sandwiches
Speaker 1: there and neither Greg West or Dan will win the
Speaker 1: lock it Up challenge. Three sandwiches on the line here
Speaker 1: um for Mark, and right now he has a lead
Speaker 1: sandwiches on this Mark, you you're almost you're just weeks
Speaker 1: away from your worst nightmare. A bunch of sandwiches. I
Speaker 1: know I might have to start picking the cowboys in
Speaker 1: this playoff thing. Here food like extra food. This is
Speaker 1: chasing the prize. I absolutely do not want. So you're
Speaker 1: you're at seven and four, but it could get even better.
Speaker 1: It could be an all time week. Greg six and eight.
Speaker 1: Alex Smith will have a better season. The Kirk cousins,
Speaker 1: Mark and West took you up and that no one
Speaker 1: had a worst season, you could say, than Alex Smith
Speaker 1: in the entire league, well even before he got in jeared.
Speaker 1: This was a major l one of I think it's
Speaker 1: one of Greg's most bizarre, like all offseason long stances
Speaker 1: that Alex Smith was gonna come here. I thought the
Speaker 1: Redskins offense was gonna be exciting. I think I had
Speaker 1: them as a borderline playoff team although they were in position.
Speaker 1: The crazy thing was they were six and three before
Speaker 1: all those injuries really hit. But Alex Smith was a
Speaker 1: big disappointment even before the injury. Jaguars won't make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: You got that right, market West took you up on
Speaker 1: that one, So you got two sayings were that I
Speaker 1: stayed away from that on the Bordles theory, and that
Speaker 1: worked out for me. Eli Manning won't be the starting
Speaker 1: quarterback for the Giants by week seventeen. Look good around
Speaker 1: week eight, but it did look real good. Uh Dan
Speaker 1: and Marcott Sandwiches. West did not take Greg up on that,
Speaker 1: and uh he will probably this quarterback week one. That's
Speaker 1: my prediction as well. On the other side of the calendar,
Speaker 1: but we shall see. Uh, I am seven and six.
Speaker 1: Sam Donald doesn't start Week one for the Jets. I
Speaker 1: bought into offseason fluff pieces about Josh McCown Mark got
Speaker 1: a sandwich offering their KAI four Bath is on an
Speaker 1: active roster during Week three. Greg, I like mine are
Speaker 1: very hyper specific to things I like and the things
Speaker 1: I need to Greg got a sandwich there. If Kai
Speaker 1: did end up materializing with the team, I believe in
Speaker 1: week sixteen, though, UH, three of the following will occur
Speaker 1: for the Bengals. Andy Dalton goes under thirty eight hundred
Speaker 1: ding yards a J Green under eleven hundred yards receiving ding,
Speaker 1: John Ross under five touchdowns. John Ross, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you looked at his stats, he had like eleven
Speaker 1: catches and seven touchdowns. Okay, so that was wrong. That
Speaker 1: was wrong. That was not a ding that was under
Speaker 1: nine and a half wins, and they went well under that,
Speaker 1: although they were five and two at one point, Uh,
Speaker 1: they finished what six and ten? Well, you were saved
Speaker 1: by injuries. Dalton probably would have been right around there,
Speaker 1: so that would have decided it for you. That was
Speaker 1: great Dalton then, but that's good. You can un somebody
Speaker 1: on injury. He's is a nice way to go. But
Speaker 1: you guys, uh, you guys cost me. I got I
Speaker 1: got sand just from Greg and Mark. And then finally
Speaker 1: Patriots will not have a first round buying the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Greg and West made sandwiches off me. I'm so angry
Speaker 1: about that. It was so close. Uh well, I'm making
Speaker 1: a lot of sandwich about Jimmy Graham. Will as the
Speaker 1: season goes along, I throw different ones out and it
Speaker 1: gets added on because h uh, Nick Fortier does an
Speaker 1: amazing job, and go get my lunch. Jimmy Graham will
Speaker 1: have less than seven yards receiving bam. He finished with
Speaker 1: about six fifty. Greg Mark West all over me sandwiches.
Speaker 1: I never bought into Graham. I don't know why I
Speaker 1: took you on that, because that seems like he last
Speaker 1: year with the Seahawks, because I tracked him really closely
Speaker 1: from fantasy he just wasn't moving well. And that it
Speaker 1: continued this year and Bruce arians will become the next
Speaker 1: Browns head coach. Greg Greg who's in the driver's seat
Speaker 1: on that one, because it sounds like when Bruce now
Speaker 1: has opened up the bucks, is that also possible? It's
Speaker 1: almost like, well, the Browns don't want me. They got
Speaker 1: a scheduled interview with him to start. It's not it's
Speaker 1: not looking good there for this. But I'm seven and
Speaker 1: six right now, possible, so they haven't scheduled an interview
Speaker 1: with the area. I kept thinking that there's still a
Speaker 1: decent chance because he's kind of like the way to
Speaker 1: keep kitchens in place. We'll see, we shall see. It's
Speaker 1: not over yet. All right, there you go. So yes,
Speaker 1: we'll be back on um Thursday. Thursday, we'll have another
Speaker 1: show going up, previewing wild Card weekend, a lot of
Speaker 1: fun um as we head towards January. Football the best
Speaker 1: time of year. These are the best two weeks of
Speaker 1: the year for me. I love wild Card weekend. I
Speaker 1: love Divisional playoff weekend. Good football. What about championship weekend?
Speaker 1: That's fun as well. And it's the stakes are obviously,
Speaker 1: but it's just the sign with a Saturday Sunday. It's
Speaker 1: just good. It's not overwhelming. Everybody else is in an
Speaker 1: urn or in a box. That's good. That's it. Dan
Speaker 1: Hands is signing off four Quiet Storm, mail Man, the
Speaker 1: Old Boss, and Ricky Hollywood Behind the Glass. Ricky Hollywood
Speaker 1: behind my glass still Thursday, m HM