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Speaker 1: fifty three is a week and a half away, Rams
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Speaker 1: unsolved mysteries around super Bowl fifty three. But before we
Speaker 1: get to that, a lot going on in the league.
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Speaker 1: K and FL. Let's start with the fallout, the continuing
Speaker 1: fallout around the Saints Rams NFC title game and the
Speaker 1: blown call heard around the world. Nickel Robie Coleman didn't
Speaker 1: get whistled for a what looked like an apparent defensive
Speaker 1: past interference gave the Rams new life. They went on
Speaker 1: to tie the game and then win in overtime. You've
Speaker 1: seen stories about Saints fans filing lawsuits, putting up billboards
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. UH. The Saints owner Gayle Benson released a
Speaker 1: statement expressing a disappointment with how things were handled by
Speaker 1: Bill Vanovich's crew. And now we're hearing that there could
Speaker 1: be potential changes greg in the rules coming off this,
Speaker 1: or at least it's going to renew or strengthen or embolden, UH,
Speaker 1: perhaps a change in the rules after what we saw.
Speaker 1: There's so many different ways that they could go, and
Speaker 1: it is something that's discussed often, really annually at the
Speaker 1: league meetings. In terms of expanding the rules, Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: for a long time has proposed making every replay reviewable,
Speaker 1: which is seen as some sort of like far left
Speaker 1: or like extreme view that for whatever reason, the Competition
Speaker 1: Committee can't get behind and that it sounds like they're
Speaker 1: not gonna get behind it now. Stephen Jones and John
Speaker 1: Elway who are on the Competition committee keep talking about
Speaker 1: a slippery slope, and you know, Enrich McVeigh, where does
Speaker 1: it end. It's like, you're right in the rules, you
Speaker 1: can decide where it ends. I don't get the slippery slope.
Speaker 1: I also don't think it's crazy to make every single
Speaker 1: play reviewable. As long as you don't increase the challenge challenges,
Speaker 1: then you have the same number of challenges, just more
Speaker 1: strategy in terms of what you're going to challenge. There
Speaker 1: will be more challenges. I know you say there won't,
Speaker 1: but there will be because there are games where coaches
Speaker 1: don't use any challenges. Okay. I can live with that, though,
Speaker 1: Like what's more important getting it right? Entertainment's important? Okay then,
Speaker 1: And we know that's an issue because our ribon has
Speaker 1: mentioned it at our talent summits that the NFL knows
Speaker 1: it has a problem with too many flags, too many
Speaker 1: reps getting in the way of the game, and the
Speaker 1: flow in the rhythm of the game is very important,
Speaker 1: and I think we're going the wrong way on that.
Speaker 1: I I do think though, it's just priorities, because they
Speaker 1: would never think for a second to pass up a
Speaker 1: dollar of ad money. And it's like you could you
Speaker 1: could skip some commercial breaks. I mean, anyone who's been
Speaker 1: to a game live knows half the game players are
Speaker 1: just standing around. You could make halftime of the super
Speaker 1: Bowl half is long, but you're not going to because
Speaker 1: you're getting paid for it. So if if we're willing
Speaker 1: to make the game a little five minutes longer for that,
Speaker 1: I'm fine with it being four minutes longer for to
Speaker 1: get the play some of the fixes that make sense
Speaker 1: to me. Or if this were to be applied, maybe
Speaker 1: not throughout the entire game, but fourth quarter into overtime
Speaker 1: or final two minutes and then into overtime where you
Speaker 1: avoid because if this, if this had happened in the
Speaker 1: first quarter, the way football works, no one would care
Speaker 1: you get over there to deal with it. Lots of
Speaker 1: crazy calls did happen this right next weekend makes sense
Speaker 1: from a human and fan angle why everyone is freaking
Speaker 1: out about this call, as they should. The one thing
Speaker 1: I'd say about football in the NFL and the way
Speaker 1: that they look at the rules every year baseball, and
Speaker 1: it's not a critique on baseball, but it's in a
Speaker 1: it's in a fix because no matter what they try
Speaker 1: to do to speed up a game. As people's attention
Speaker 1: spans shorten. It's hard to really do that with baseball
Speaker 1: on a wide, wide range, and negle football has a
Speaker 1: way to adjust with rules. They worked the last couple
Speaker 1: of years to make the games a little bit shorter,
Speaker 1: and I think the way that they treat commercial in
Speaker 1: commercial in screen as with the action that that helps.
Speaker 1: They have chipped some of the moments off of off
Speaker 1: of game length. But you have the flexibility to deal
Speaker 1: with these issues. This doesn't have to be an issue
Speaker 1: next season. And I think Wes, I hear what you're saying,
Speaker 1: but there's a way to do it without making the
Speaker 1: game much longer if you apply it to certain parts
Speaker 1: of the game. Or it's simply just a challenge. It's
Speaker 1: it's challenges can't be trusted. To the NFL's credit, though,
Speaker 1: they are always trying to improve it, and I think
Speaker 1: they'll try something. And I think we're closer now on
Speaker 1: replays and and everything than ever before. I I honestly,
Speaker 1: and I don't think officiating is worse than it used
Speaker 1: to be. People that was like a big topic this year.
Speaker 1: It's like it's always they're always gonna be miscalls. These
Speaker 1: are humans trying to officiate something that's almost impossible, and
Speaker 1: we have more replays now. That's just you remember the
Speaker 1: one season I think it was maybe two thousand three
Speaker 1: or two thousand four, I from not mistaken when they
Speaker 1: took replay away. Yes, and then there was at the
Speaker 1: end of that year. I'm I was thinking about this
Speaker 1: this morning. There was some game in week sixteen or
Speaker 1: right a playoff deciding game where they did not they
Speaker 1: could not apply replay and something was so ecoregious that
Speaker 1: they were immediately brought replay back because it was a
Speaker 1: totally referring to the John Kitten a helmet game. Well,
Speaker 1: there was that. That was that was That was ninety eight,
Speaker 1: and that led to replay coming back in nineteen. I
Speaker 1: could have the timeline mix, but there was a year
Speaker 1: where the replay went away, or a couple of years,
Speaker 1: and then there was so many issues they brought. It
Speaker 1: came into the league, I believe in the early nineties,
Speaker 1: and then got voted out and was gone, and then
Speaker 1: after a couple of gaffs in it put it back over.
Speaker 1: I think it's been in the league since ninety nine.
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken you maybe at this point, I
Speaker 1: don't trust coaches. When replay first came into being, it
Speaker 1: was supposed to only be used for the huge, important
Speaker 1: plays in a game. And I thought immediately, coaches are
Speaker 1: going to challenge a four yard pass in the first quarter.
Speaker 1: And we saw who was it who challenged plays in
Speaker 1: the first first couple of minutes of the game and
Speaker 1: lost both of them, and they were ridiculous, Like four
Speaker 1: yard passes. You can't. I don't trust coaches to do
Speaker 1: this and use discretion. In other news connected to this,
Speaker 1: so yes, a lot of people are siding with the
Speaker 1: Saints and and having empathy for the Saints and all that.
Speaker 1: Ye please with the politicians who are like we're gonna
Speaker 1: bring it up in Congress or like let's declare a
Speaker 1: national state of emergency and look, and it's like, shut up,
Speaker 1: you get a potential state. And even more ridiculous is like, hey,
Speaker 1: the solution here, of course, is to start the game
Speaker 1: over right at that moment with the first down. That's like,
Speaker 1: shut up, idiot. Anyway, Andrew Whitworth was on the Rich
Speaker 1: Eyes and Show and he you know what, He's sticking
Speaker 1: up for his team because the Rams are really being
Speaker 1: discredited a little bit here, even though they have vants
Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl. Here's Whitworth's comments about the controversy
Speaker 1: surrounding the no call. You see the arguments from some
Speaker 1: of the Saints players about, you know, the rule about
Speaker 1: the commissioners starting the game over or from that point
Speaker 1: or whatever. My argument to that would be rich is
Speaker 1: then Jared Goff got a face mask on the second
Speaker 1: down right before the possession, and before that was not called,
Speaker 1: that would be first in goal at the one down
Speaker 1: three points. If you look at our odds from the
Speaker 1: one this season, that's seven points, so they'd be down
Speaker 1: four and the field goal wouldn't matter. They've had to
Speaker 1: have scored in that situation either way. So the reality
Speaker 1: is like where do you want, Like I said, where
Speaker 1: is the last foul that you want to argue? And
Speaker 1: whether it's like blatant or not, it's not a matter.
Speaker 1: It's whether it's a foul. So it's just one of
Speaker 1: those things that that's the slippery slope and it's an
Speaker 1: excuse wherever you cut it. And the reality is they
Speaker 1: got the football after that snap. They played an overtime
Speaker 1: with the football. New England had the same situation and
Speaker 1: won the game. They didn't score, we did. We can
Speaker 1: argue about it all day, but they had, They had
Speaker 1: an opportunity to win the game, and we want it.
Speaker 1: That's fair. That's fair, is it? It's totally fair. It's
Speaker 1: a bit of a false equivalency a play where nicol
Speaker 1: Robie Coleman admitted that he purposely fouled the player to
Speaker 1: prevent a touchdown versus you know, grazing a face. But
Speaker 1: I also think great space leads to a penalty that
Speaker 1: helped the Patriots in the later game. Both of these
Speaker 1: are intellectually dishonest. Chiefs fans worried about the Patriots and
Speaker 1: not even mentioning the Sammy Watkins pick play is intellectually dishonest.
Speaker 1: Equiting the face masks to the Nicole Ruby Coleman play
Speaker 1: is also just. I agree with that, and yet it's
Speaker 1: a loser's lament. It's excuse. The excuse making part is
Speaker 1: what stands out to me, and I I appreciated that
Speaker 1: Drew Brees and Sean pay and even though they were
Speaker 1: asked quite a bit about these calls, continued to say
Speaker 1: because to me, they have kind of a championship winners mentality.
Speaker 1: They continue to stress the millions of ways that they
Speaker 1: made mistakes in that game and that they took accountability
Speaker 1: for the loss, because you know, if you're gonna be
Speaker 1: the best team in the in the league and win
Speaker 1: a super Bowl, go make plays, Go make any number
Speaker 1: of plays after that to go win it. And I
Speaker 1: think that's how most of them really do understand. I
Speaker 1: think it's fans who understandably feel different. I think it's
Speaker 1: fair that Saints fans in this specific case are absolutely
Speaker 1: going ballistic. But what if we were no bull enough
Speaker 1: as a people, where the voice for change and replay
Speaker 1: was just as loud from Rams fans. It's such a
Speaker 1: it's such a fan thing. You have to deal with that.
Speaker 1: It's the losing side that must have the war cry.
Speaker 1: When both football fans from both teams should see that
Speaker 1: that was a busted call, you should see it and
Speaker 1: argue for that not to happen, because it's gonna be
Speaker 1: you next time. All right, let's move on. The Kansas
Speaker 1: City Chiefs have parted ways with defensive coordinator Bob Sutton. Uh.
Speaker 1: This comes a couple of days after the Chiefs fell
Speaker 1: to the Pats in the A f C title game.
Speaker 1: He took over um UH as he joined the staff
Speaker 1: when Read and he Read took over in two thousand
Speaker 1: thirteen in Kansas City. UH. He had been with the
Speaker 1: Jets for thirteen years before that in a number of
Speaker 1: capacities the Chiefs West Over their time UH with Sutton
Speaker 1: were never a great defense. And now that the Chiefs
Speaker 1: are trying to figure out, what do we have to
Speaker 1: do to get over the hut huh hump, I guess
Speaker 1: and getting rid of Sutton is part of that plan. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm always hesitant to sort of have a strong opinion
Speaker 1: on all offensive and defensive coordinator hirings and firings because
Speaker 1: I recognize that the limits of our knowledge here. I
Speaker 1: just don't know how capable Bob Sutton is. I do
Speaker 1: know that Mike Garafola was telling us on you know,
Speaker 1: our our Twitter show yesterday that the Tony Romo is
Speaker 1: calling out all these plays on air and it makes
Speaker 1: Bob Sutton look bad when he knows he knows the
Speaker 1: adjustments that the defense should be making, but the defensive
Speaker 1: coordinator does. So they had a bottom six defense by
Speaker 1: Football Outsiders Metrics two straight years, and I don't think
Speaker 1: their bottom six in terms of total talent over the
Speaker 1: last two years. And I do think Belichick and McDaniels
Speaker 1: kind of point out that in the playoffs especially, I
Speaker 1: think you need to have both sides of the ball
Speaker 1: that are able to adjust their game plan significantly from
Speaker 1: a week to week basis and a quarter to quarter
Speaker 1: basis that they you're gonna need coaches that can be flexible.
Speaker 1: And it seems like Sutton was not that Tom Brady
Speaker 1: knew exactly what the defense was gonna do two straight
Speaker 1: weeks against Gus Bradley and against Sutton. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's another example though that like they had been talking
Speaker 1: about parting ways with him. It sounds like for some
Speaker 1: time or at least it was on the burner. But
Speaker 1: when you get flamed by Tom Brady and overtime the
Speaker 1: way that you do on national television and you carved
Speaker 1: through a Chiefs defense as if you're operating against the
Speaker 1: Pop Warner squad, heads will roll. And it's not just scapegoating.
Speaker 1: It's like the other side to the overtime rule controversy
Speaker 1: that everyone brings up is stop the Patriots. Note. You've
Speaker 1: got to be the team that can do that. You're
Speaker 1: in your home field and you got eaten alive by
Speaker 1: the Patriots offense. Steve Spagnola has emerged as a favorite. Spagnol,
Speaker 1: speaking of the Patriots, was the d C of the
Speaker 1: Giants when they dropped the eighteen in one uh Patriots
Speaker 1: years ago. But he is have been wandering a little
Speaker 1: bit in the wilderness sense, also in the wildern and
Speaker 1: in the same sense, also in the wilderness. Rex Ryan,
Speaker 1: who um has been out of football and working with
Speaker 1: ESPN for a couple of years, and how he has
Speaker 1: been brought up as a potential candidate. But it sounds
Speaker 1: like Spags is the favorite at this point. We'll see
Speaker 1: how it plays out. Wasn't Bob Sutton Rex Ryan's right
Speaker 1: hand man for a while, Well, it's it's very similar.
Speaker 1: It would you'd be bringing in someone to run a
Speaker 1: very similar scheme. When Spags runs four three, you'd be
Speaker 1: changing that defense from the ground up. I mean that
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan report came from his place of employment and
Speaker 1: they didn't say he was under consideration. They just said
Speaker 1: he was a name to watch. Just like point taken
Speaker 1: in other news. Carson Wentz is the quarterback of the
Speaker 1: present and future of the Philadelphia Eagles, which uh is
Speaker 1: good news for Eagles fans. Wentz is still a great
Speaker 1: young players dealt with some injury issues. However, a report
Speaker 1: out of Philadelphia Philly Voice cited some unnamed players UM
Speaker 1: saying some nice not so nice things about um Carson Wentz.
Speaker 1: Uh and UM. Stars for the Eagles were quick to
Speaker 1: come to Wentz's defense, Lane Johnson, zach It's flex Fletcher
Speaker 1: Cox amongst the chorus saying, don't listen to this hashtag
Speaker 1: fake news. Carson Wentz is a great teammate and a
Speaker 1: great guy, and we're happy to roll forward. Mark. That
Speaker 1: was the roll forward with him. Mark. That was the
Speaker 1: right reaction for a team that wants a controversy to
Speaker 1: go away. I think so too. We talked about this
Speaker 1: a little bit on the Twitter Show, and I think
Speaker 1: that the today's NFL quarterback, you know, they dug into
Speaker 1: the fact that this was. This are some of the
Speaker 1: quotes coming out of this piece, a piece that claim
Speaker 1: to talk to more than half a dozen players and
Speaker 1: some sources, all who wanted to stay anonymous because they
Speaker 1: feared Wens his power within the organization. First of all,
Speaker 1: there are like at any point fifty to sixty players
Speaker 1: you could talk to five or six is not a
Speaker 1: sample size for this kind of a story. That would
Speaker 1: be on one my one concern, but they kept rounding
Speaker 1: it back. They critique him as selfish, uncompromising, egotistical, one
Speaker 1: who plays favorites and doesn't like to be questioned, one
Speaker 1: who needs to practice what he preaches, failed to take accountability,
Speaker 1: and would complicate adding two plus two so there, that's
Speaker 1: all fine and someone They said that essentially he complicated
Speaker 1: the offense, which maybe that's something. There's something maybe too
Speaker 1: instead of the young what Peterson says the run that
Speaker 1: he overthinks it and asked all these questions. Well, they
Speaker 1: said he would complicate. Well, he struggled on a statement
Speaker 1: and mandated map. That's why he went to seven. One.
Speaker 1: My one thing would say that a lot of these,
Speaker 1: the mirror to these, all of us have these negative
Speaker 1: qualities that the mirror to them are also positive. And
Speaker 1: a lot of those talk to me about a quarterback
Speaker 1: that's learning, um, that's behind the eight ball after being
Speaker 1: an m VP candidate who then suddenly watched the backup
Speaker 1: quarterback become the star of the town, change the team's
Speaker 1: franchise history, forever and then try to come back and
Speaker 1: get injured again and have the backup quarterback do it
Speaker 1: all over you. It's a tough situation to be in,
Speaker 1: and I think we've forgotten a little bit about all
Speaker 1: the good elements that made Carson Wentz one of the
Speaker 1: future stars of the league. All sources question for this
Speaker 1: article said that they wanted Carson Wentz to succeed, and
Speaker 1: I think my takeaway from this there were two main
Speaker 1: problems that teammates had. Too often he didn't run the
Speaker 1: play concept as the coaches designed it, whereas Nick Foles
Speaker 1: did run it the way the coaches designed it, and
Speaker 1: his head got a little bit too big after the
Speaker 1: year before. But I thought of Steve Young because the first,
Speaker 1: the first criticism didn't run the play concept the way
Speaker 1: it's designed is a natural byproduct of running and escaping
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and laden the down improv quarterbacks. And Steve Young
Speaker 1: said he was exactly that way until he realized, if
Speaker 1: I'm not running the play of the way Bill Walsh
Speaker 1: designed it, my wide receivers are running routes for no reason.
Speaker 1: My offensive linemen are blocking for no reason. You have
Speaker 1: to be a good teammate and run the play away.
Speaker 1: It's supposed to be run, but isn't that just like
Speaker 1: it's a necessary step for developing and he like it.
Speaker 1: Seemed like a big part of the complaint was all
Speaker 1: he did was throw the ball the zach Ertz so
Speaker 1: you could almost you could almost smell like, who is
Speaker 1: it annoyed by by Carson Wentz that he's not, you know,
Speaker 1: getting the ball as much some some receiver whatever. This
Speaker 1: was a tough year for Wentz, There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: And I think the best thing that can happen is
Speaker 1: be another full year moved from the knee injury. Hopefully
Speaker 1: the issue that he developed with his back is nothing
Speaker 1: that's going to hold him back in the off season.
Speaker 1: Uh and Folds will be out the door, which is
Speaker 1: not a bad thing for Carson Wentz who really needs
Speaker 1: kind of a clean slate, which I don't think he
Speaker 1: ever had this year. No, I think that's true, And
Speaker 1: I think the way Folds lead was real that he
Speaker 1: really did kind of inspire his teammates and maybe once
Speaker 1: learned something from that. And I think the Eagles know
Speaker 1: it too. And it really sounds been digging asking some
Speaker 1: people about this. It really sounds like there's a bigger
Speaker 1: chance than I would have guessed that Folds is maybe
Speaker 1: gonna allow that Eagles to trade him, that he would
Speaker 1: almost hand pick who they trade him to, because Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: I think, really wants to avoid him ending up with
Speaker 1: the Giants or Redskins, which are too of the three,
Speaker 1: four or five more most likely teams to go after.
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald is coming back. The wide receiver has signed
Speaker 1: a one year deal with the Cardinals sixteenth season. It
Speaker 1: will be uh this upcoming September for Fitzgerald. He turns
Speaker 1: thirty six in August, um easily the greatest player in
Speaker 1: franchise history for the Cardinals, and he finds himself west
Speaker 1: Um at an age where he finally, even though he's
Speaker 1: been around some bad quarterbacks of the years, finally his
Speaker 1: statistics started to kind of fall off a little bit.
Speaker 1: He'd kind of been um statistic falloff proof for a while.
Speaker 1: This year dropped to sixty nine for seven, thirty four
Speaker 1: and six touch on. Still nice numbers for sure, but
Speaker 1: he is in the middle of a rebuild, so it's
Speaker 1: commendable that he he just loves the game. He wants
Speaker 1: to be part of the Cardinals. He's not trying to
Speaker 1: go anywhere else, but he's certainly not in the super
Speaker 1: Bowl race this late in his career. Yeah, he's not
Speaker 1: been a number one receiver for a few years. As
Speaker 1: far as playmaking ability, I mean, he's still got great hands,
Speaker 1: still sells out, gives up his body on every play.
Speaker 1: He's a prose pro um. But I he's second to
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice and a lot of stats, which is amazing
Speaker 1: considering Jerry Rice spent his career with Bill Walsh, Steve
Speaker 1: Young and Joe Montana and Larry Fitzgerald has spent way
Speaker 1: too many years catching passes from Jabroni's with other Jabbronis
Speaker 1: calling the plays. Yeah, part of me was, that's to
Speaker 1: JABRONI take rut that. I mean, he is so embedded
Speaker 1: in the community in Arizona. He's he's the most famous
Speaker 1: player ever from that franchise, And so I get maybe
Speaker 1: why goes somewhere else for that one year that maybe
Speaker 1: if you're not the best receiver, is a forgotten yere
Speaker 1: somewhere else. But why I feel just depressed that he
Speaker 1: won't have a chance to chase the title with a
Speaker 1: contender one season. I know, I know and he chose
Speaker 1: not to. He's an institution. There. Let's move on. Alex
Speaker 1: Smith spotted at a NBA game the Wizards. I believe
Speaker 1: he was checking out a Wizard's game and he went
Speaker 1: down to the locker room and is as you would imagine,
Speaker 1: there are reporters down there snapping photos. And he had
Speaker 1: a gnarly leg brace. Uh, one of those freaky ones
Speaker 1: where the wires are going into the leg and it's just,
Speaker 1: you know, it's medieval. It's like the worst thing you'd
Speaker 1: want to have on your leg. I mean, it's technically
Speaker 1: the farthest thing from medieval because it's like the height
Speaker 1: of modern medical technology. But yes, that's the height. I
Speaker 1: think they've been using decades this. I did some research
Speaker 1: on this. They've been using whatever this thing is where
Speaker 1: they connect the the bone because they had the infection,
Speaker 1: so they had to take out the internal rod and
Speaker 1: then put on this medieval device that they haven't changed
Speaker 1: the technology of it in decades. All right. That's and
Speaker 1: I know nothing about the technology in itself, but I
Speaker 1: read about to say that it's you know, twenty years
Speaker 1: old or nineteen years old, still does not tug us
Speaker 1: back to medieval times technically, well it's okay. Um anyway,
Speaker 1: long story short, No, I think let's keep going. That
Speaker 1: was good. Long story short. Alex Smith is not out
Speaker 1: of the woods by any stretch in terms of surgery
Speaker 1: and rehab. And Bruce Allen, the Redskins GM a day
Speaker 1: after Smith was spotted, um uh, could only offer this
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl during a practice in Mobile, Alabama.
Speaker 1: He's moving around and well on his way to recovery.
Speaker 1: It's a tough thing for him and his family. All
Speaker 1: the love and care has helped him quite a bit.
Speaker 1: We'll see how it goes. We're optimistic. If anyone could
Speaker 1: come back, it's Alex. I'm sure he wanted to shoot
Speaker 1: hoops at the game yesterday, but we'll see. His contract
Speaker 1: is guaranteed for this year, so the Redskins have every
Speaker 1: you know, motivation to try to help him along in
Speaker 1: his recovery. But by the terms of the contract, they
Speaker 1: actually have to guarantee his next couple of years by March.
Speaker 1: I would think they'll be able to work something out
Speaker 1: with the agent to put that date off, you would hope,
Speaker 1: or else they're in the spot where they kind of
Speaker 1: need to cut him because regardless they can't really go
Speaker 1: into the season with him as their starter. They can't
Speaker 1: be counting on that in April or make Colt McCoy
Speaker 1: is also a free agent. I don't know if they
Speaker 1: really want Colt McCoy to be their starter. So I
Speaker 1: mean they are a team if Nick Foles was available,
Speaker 1: or Teddy Bridgewater, whoever, Nick Joe Flacco, I don't know
Speaker 1: that you would think they're going to be one of
Speaker 1: those teams at the top of the list going for
Speaker 1: these guys. I'll go a step further. It's not just
Speaker 1: they can't count on him for the starter of next year,
Speaker 1: they can't count on him to ever be an NFL
Speaker 1: starter level quarter again. He's thirty five years old. He
Speaker 1: was a problem for them competitively before the injury, and
Speaker 1: that their offense didn't have any element outside the numbers
Speaker 1: in downfield and it was easy to defend their passing game.
Speaker 1: So much of his game is his athleticism and running ability,
Speaker 1: and who knows what that leg is gonna be like.
Speaker 1: I also think that if you're Jake Gruden, you can't think, hey,
Speaker 1: let's talk, how about you know, author a winning season
Speaker 1: right now, or you're gonna be the next one out
Speaker 1: the door. Uh. In other quarterback news, Drew Brees still
Speaker 1: smarting from Sunday's loss, but he's not ready to quit.
Speaker 1: Drew Brees UH said that that overtime loss is not
Speaker 1: the end. He plots a return in two thousand nineteen.
Speaker 1: Here's what Breeze said. I plan on being here next
Speaker 1: year and making another run out of run at it,
Speaker 1: uh via ESPNS Mike Triplet and Breeze turns for it or.
Speaker 1: He turned forty this month, and he had one of
Speaker 1: his best seasons statistically in eighteen and a year left
Speaker 1: on his contract, Greg, So none of this is particularly surprising.
Speaker 1: I guess you can only play the what if game
Speaker 1: if they did go to the super Bowl this year,
Speaker 1: if they won, would he feel differently? But that's not
Speaker 1: the case. He's playing so well that I and he
Speaker 1: loves the game so much. I think he's gonna want
Speaker 1: to keep playing. There's no reason for him not to.
Speaker 1: And I think the Saints are gonna be back in
Speaker 1: that spot where they've been a few times. I mean,
Speaker 1: the report, it's basically been confirmed, was they wanted to
Speaker 1: take Patrick Mahomes with the number eleven pick. Was that ort?
Speaker 1: I mean so that's a high pick. They were ready
Speaker 1: to start thinking about the post breeze era, and I
Speaker 1: think they'll be looking at this draft for quarterbacks to
Speaker 1: West is there, Well, it's gonna say there's been multiple
Speaker 1: drafts where we've gotten reports from Ian rap reports saying
Speaker 1: that the Saints are, you know, fishing around for like
Speaker 1: a second round quarterback as the air apparent Breason, these
Speaker 1: guys have coming gone. Jimmy g was Jimmy g was
Speaker 1: one of them. That's how long ago was. Don't you
Speaker 1: have to take a long, hard look at your Sean
Speaker 1: Payton at why the offense created and why Drew Brees
Speaker 1: numbers went from m v P like to about the
Speaker 1: worst quarterback in the league over the low worst quarterback
Speaker 1: in the laces. His passer rating was like seventy over
Speaker 1: the last what six weeks, and I was no big
Speaker 1: plays down the field except the jump ball to who
Speaker 1: was at tra Kwan Smith or Tech Ginn in the
Speaker 1: last game. I was gonna say West that at what
Speaker 1: point do those limitations with his arm strength really catch
Speaker 1: up with him? Because they were on display a couple
Speaker 1: of times down the stretch of the season, and he
Speaker 1: did throw he had um Dante Fowler right in his face,
Speaker 1: of course, but he threw the interception that's set up
Speaker 1: the game. Uh and then kick from Legatron. You wonder
Speaker 1: is Breeze a candidate? Like a fall off the cliff
Speaker 1: Caunity Guy Warren Sharp on Twitter posted a video of
Speaker 1: a hit that Drew Brees took in the Thanksgiving Day
Speaker 1: game against the Falcons, and there's no way of knowing
Speaker 1: whether they contributed to what happened down the stretch, but
Speaker 1: he did play like a quarterback who was had a
Speaker 1: problem with his arm or was injured in some way.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's his rib cage or his oblique and couldn't
Speaker 1: get enough. I think he can work around his limitations though,
Speaker 1: you know they ultimately the seventeen eighteen games stretch, to
Speaker 1: me is the best way to measure in Over those
Speaker 1: eighteen games, they were third in the league in scoring
Speaker 1: and move the ball. But they might need the running
Speaker 1: game to be better. I mean, the running game did
Speaker 1: not show up for the most part in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: The defense has really improved and I think that will
Speaker 1: help them. Finally, in the news, the London Games have
Speaker 1: been announced. It's no longer the International Series. If you're
Speaker 1: following along at home. It's now called the London Games.
Speaker 1: So what so the what about the Mexico game? That's
Speaker 1: its own thing. Those are it's an international game, but
Speaker 1: the branding you see shout out to VP Henry Hodgson,
Speaker 1: NFL UK Hank, Yes there's a Mexico game. The Chiefs
Speaker 1: at Chargers. Uh so they get another shot at it, hopefully.
Speaker 1: The fields a good shape of the UK games. Panthers
Speaker 1: at Tampa Bay, Bears at Raiders, Ben Gals at Rams,
Speaker 1: and Texas at Jaguars. The games that we played at
Speaker 1: the Tottenham Hotspurs New Stadium and two more at Wembley.
Speaker 1: What is the what is the greg What ties these
Speaker 1: teams together? Chargers, Bucks, Raiders, Rams, Jaguars. Teams with uncertain
Speaker 1: home field situations like temporary or they're not They're okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're not great at selling tickets for the most part.
Speaker 1: That's I guess it totally okay giving up that home game.
Speaker 1: Not all teams. The Packers aren't giving up a home game.
Speaker 1: The Bucks, the Jags, the Rams, the Raiders, the Chargers,
Speaker 1: well a lot of them also now that I'm thinking, uh,
Speaker 1: have team the ownership owned soccer teams in the UK
Speaker 1: at least three of that dozen time all the Bucks,
Speaker 1: Rams and Jacks, but three of the three ice point.
Speaker 1: I liked the point, but I was saying, all five, well,
Speaker 1: the Chargers are like they really don't have like a
Speaker 1: a steady home. Fine, it just wasn't quite what wasn't
Speaker 1: like Nancy True two point out. But I thought he
Speaker 1: connected some dots there. I thought it was more salient
Speaker 1: than the first point. Salience salient by the way I
Speaker 1: put the sally into salion. Mark, I'm gonna help you
Speaker 1: out a little bit here. September seven, six, instant replay
Speaker 1: was used for the first time in a game. It
Speaker 1: was gone after the ninety one season. It returned in
Speaker 1: huh wow. It was out for eight and then it
Speaker 1: never on the radar. See. My memory of it was
Speaker 1: I was in a pool hall, um like when when
Speaker 1: I watched this egregious non replay play kills someone's season,
Speaker 1: and I thought that it must have been but you
Speaker 1: don't know who it was. That was back when a
Speaker 1: Hustler was a four decade This was a four o'clock game. Um,
Speaker 1: do you think it was? Mark was just there four
Speaker 1: in the afternoon he couldn't even break the balls, like
Speaker 1: he looked like he didn't know what was happening. I would,
Speaker 1: let's play against this suddenly, and suddenly I'd go to
Speaker 1: other people and not even play pool. I was just saying,
Speaker 1: hanging around on the fringe and watch the football. But
Speaker 1: I don't even but clearly I have no memory of
Speaker 1: what of what else was happening at that time that day.
Speaker 1: It's funny because you don't. I don't remember that from
Speaker 1: the nineties at all. But it's because the camera angles
Speaker 1: and HD and every in. Replays weren't as good because
Speaker 1: they're just you didn't have the shots to even be
Speaker 1: filled with the outrage that you know, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. The big difference between eighty six to ninety
Speaker 1: one and nine to present, and it is significant this
Speaker 1: coming from our statisticians slash researcher slashducer Erica tampose Um.
Speaker 1: Instead of officials deciding when to implement a replay, coaches
Speaker 1: had the right to challenge. That was the change. Initially,
Speaker 1: the officials are making the decision. I don't remember that either,
Speaker 1: which is strange. You didn't work whoever's if river On
Speaker 1: stays or wherever takes his spot. That's the guy who
Speaker 1: should be initiating, taken out of the coach's hands. I
Speaker 1: know we're probably not going to get a row. They
Speaker 1: do that when like we try to write up three
Speaker 1: games at the same time and I want like an
Speaker 1: assassin to take me out. How does al riveron looking
Speaker 1: at like twelve games at the same time. I was
Speaker 1: speaking more for playoffs, but all right, well that works
Speaker 1: for playoffs. Um, we're probably not gonna get our riveron
Speaker 1: part three. At the end, we don't know. We don't
Speaker 1: know he's been and you're probably not getting that assassin either,
Speaker 1: which is we're all thankful for expensive How can we
Speaker 1: mention poolhouse, pool holes without mentioning Dan's work at Lost
Speaker 1: and Found? I said, I said, home a guy that
Speaker 1: was potentially a ghost. He's got man cruel as we
Speaker 1: called it. He showed up. He played there every day
Speaker 1: every night at Lost and Found with a He brought
Speaker 1: his own stick in the leather case and all that.
Speaker 1: He was like, Junior, you want to break some balls
Speaker 1: with me? He's talking about pool and he thought I
Speaker 1: was just another mark, And um I took him down,
Speaker 1: I buried him and then he just floated out of
Speaker 1: there like a like some type of apparition. Apparition you
Speaker 1: broke him, sent him to hell. He didn't have that
Speaker 1: much in his life and he had had to guy fund.
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Speaker 1: Loggins has been hired as the offensive coordinator of Keith
Speaker 1: Haransas his New York Jets. Welcome aboard, Dowell. I mean,
Speaker 1: you guys, get on me for the low bar of
Speaker 1: breaking news here. I thought about this one, but it
Speaker 1: had been kind of out there for a week or so,
Speaker 1: so it's a little did not happened. He was only
Speaker 1: granted permission in the last Dolphins were speak to that
Speaker 1: they wanted the Dolphins were not granting permission, and then
Speaker 1: they cleared it. What was the in house tussle in
Speaker 1: Miami about that, like somewhere like we've got to keep him,
Speaker 1: gotta keep Dowell. What's this ridiculous rule where Brian Flores
Speaker 1: can't become the coach of the Dolphins. So the Dolphins,
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Speaker 1: some people in the building just in case they Patton Oswald. Um, Hey,
Speaker 1: when you can get the gang back together, that created
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Speaker 1: very funny. Seriously really tired. Uh, let's get to our
Speaker 1: next set. This program is about unsolved mysteries. Whenever possible,
Speaker 1: the actual family members and police officials have participated in
Speaker 1: recreating the events. What you're about to see is not
Speaker 1: a newsed broadcast Solved Mysteries of Super Bowl fifty three.
Speaker 1: We saw that this show is coming back on Netflix, right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: some people reach out to me about it, said that, oh,
Speaker 1: you'd be interested in this, and yes I am. But
Speaker 1: one thing you can't overlook with Unsolved Mysteries and its
Speaker 1: original incarnation with Robert Stack from eighties six to ninety,
Speaker 1: whatever it was that ran was the aesthetic of that show,
Speaker 1: the time and place, the way it looked, the way
Speaker 1: it sounded, and Roberts Stack's voice and and his the
Speaker 1: way he looked at the front and center. That's not
Speaker 1: easy to recreate. Did anybody see the the reboot they
Speaker 1: did with that other guy, No, no, nobody. They try
Speaker 1: to reboot this show already. It's hard to get back
Speaker 1: what has already passed, which was that late eighties when
Speaker 1: people didn't really know things, You couldn't looked things up.
Speaker 1: That vibe, the way the recreations looked, there's always kind
Speaker 1: of like a haunting element to it all and then
Speaker 1: Stack just standing in a graveyard in a suit. I
Speaker 1: now this one. How many mysteries are there in the
Speaker 1: Internet age? You can solve most of them just with
Speaker 1: a click of your mouth. Did you know that Raymond
Speaker 1: Burr and Carl Maulden preceded Robert Stack did not in
Speaker 1: initial car initial incarnations of the show, because the first
Speaker 1: unsolved mysteries came right after the Giants Broncos Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: and it was on late at night where if you
Speaker 1: were a kid back then, you were lucky if you
Speaker 1: had like a little tiny television in your room. And like,
Speaker 1: I was watching the first ever episode, and it freaked
Speaker 1: me the f out and I was hooked forever, because
Speaker 1: there's always some over you. So January six years old. No,
Speaker 1: I don't know a preteen twelve. Nobody remembers that Dennis
Speaker 1: Frina two thousand eight to two thousand ten reboot. No,
Speaker 1: but I remember Dennis Farina was on like Wise Guy
Speaker 1: or something, wasn't he none of those shows we've all.
Speaker 1: We also lost Dennis Frina. He has moved on to
Speaker 1: the next life, whatever that may be. I know that
Speaker 1: whatever showed my dad was happily watching that show answer. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think there are plenty of mysterious elements in the
Speaker 1: world around us. Sure, but there are far there are
Speaker 1: far fewer mysteries now than there weren't. All Right, nice setup, boys,
Speaker 1: Now we will dig into some of the unsolved mysteries.
Speaker 1: I'll get this one going. I'll just started out you ready, Yep,
Speaker 1: here's an unsold mystery which Todd Gurley. Will we see
Speaker 1: on the first Sunday in February? You know, is it
Speaker 1: gonna be the transcendent Hall of Fame caliber running back
Speaker 1: who has served as the face of the Rams offense
Speaker 1: in the McVeigh era, or the hammonagger bench warmer, ride
Speaker 1: in the bike suddenly on even footing or less with
Speaker 1: a street free agent during the most important games of
Speaker 1: the season. Everybody keeps onsane, Oh, well, he was hurt,
Speaker 1: he's tired. You gotta get a tradition in West nice
Speaker 1: points by you. But and Greg's like, that's a big deal,
Speaker 1: like they have about the same touches. I was like, well,
Speaker 1: how about this. It's Todd Gurley, guys, and he just
Speaker 1: just disappeared from the game plan. Will he return? That's
Speaker 1: a mystery to me. I think he will because he
Speaker 1: matches up well with the Patriots. They've struggled all year,
Speaker 1: so now he's a matchup running back in these playoffs.
Speaker 1: He's not himself, like, why are we talking? Why this
Speaker 1: is the elephant the room? Why are we acting like
Speaker 1: this is like october Ti he made it. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Though he said he's healthy, he made a couple of guys.
Speaker 1: It's not the same as being in shape and confidite.
Speaker 1: What is he like sitting on the couch for the
Speaker 1: past a knee injury. Here's the thing. Confidence in a while.
Speaker 1: You can't tell me he wasn't explosive on that touchdown
Speaker 1: run against the Cowboys. I mean he's got some juice, right,
Speaker 1: and uh, he's you're part of the cover ups. They're
Speaker 1: part of this conspiracy. Janderson has played great and Todd
Speaker 1: Gurley started that game dropping passes and causing big time
Speaker 1: problems for his team. And so that's why he didn't play.
Speaker 1: And I think his speed to the outside is what
Speaker 1: you can do well against the Patriots, and that's what
Speaker 1: he brings well. Yeah, except that you give the Patriots
Speaker 1: two weeks to prepare for speed to the outside, and
Speaker 1: I I don't I'm not really buying into matchup problems
Speaker 1: for New England. And suddenly the Patriots are like the
Speaker 1: greatest team of all They're going to win the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: That's what they're going. That's already been decided the last
Speaker 1: the best team in the league right now, the last
Speaker 1: from the public agrees with you. The desert will take
Speaker 1: a lot of it will take a bath. Uh if
Speaker 1: that happens, because the public has been believing in the Patriots.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about girl and whether he's healthy or not,
Speaker 1: you're you're both saying different things. West is saying, this
Speaker 1: man is not right, and that explains all of this.
Speaker 1: Whether the knees still banged up, or his conditioning got
Speaker 1: messed up or whatever. He's just not the same guy.
Speaker 1: You're saying, Greg, that can be the same guy. He's
Speaker 1: just happy it's the same guy. But it was a
Speaker 1: coaching decision to not utilize him as much because his
Speaker 1: skill set is more as an outside runner, which I
Speaker 1: don't quite buy at the same guy, and as a receiver,
Speaker 1: which he dropped passes and struggle. He's still played half
Speaker 1: the snaps and I do think he just hasn't been
Speaker 1: as good as C. J. Anderson over the last month.
Speaker 1: Andersson still position player in the NFL at mid season.
Speaker 1: He's obviously not the same thing, right, This is such
Speaker 1: an unsolved mystery. I think everything goes health and we're
Speaker 1: not hearing about his We don't have the truth on
Speaker 1: his head. H I like that. How about the unsolved
Speaker 1: mystery whether Gronk goes out a champion, whether he announces,
Speaker 1: and how he's gonna handle his the retirement question throughout
Speaker 1: the week? Are we gonna know that this is Gronkowski's
Speaker 1: last game? Or is there gonna are we not gonna know?
Speaker 1: And then Ian Rappaport reports it on the Sunday morning
Speaker 1: before Is he gonna get the stray hand or bettest
Speaker 1: moment or something lesser? Like the year that the Patriots
Speaker 1: held their celebration party even though they lost to the
Speaker 1: Giants in two thousand twelve, and I was in my
Speaker 1: hotel room in Indianapolis hearing that music play, uh, and
Speaker 1: then eventually watching videos of Gronk dancing at that party
Speaker 1: the next morning. I hope that's not the way it happens.
Speaker 1: My guests would be whatever route is the least offers
Speaker 1: the least amount of drama to the Patriots that if you.
Speaker 1: I just don't think that he wants to turn it
Speaker 1: into such a subplot or a team does where it's
Speaker 1: it's an issue. I don't think it would be either way.
Speaker 1: I think we know he's going to retire, essentially, don't
Speaker 1: we We think we do. I mean, that's where it's
Speaker 1: all pointing, but no one's really come right out and
Speaker 1: said it. He doesn't strike me as if we get
Speaker 1: nipped in the super Bowl, I've got to come back
Speaker 1: and win another. He just doesn't if they win. I
Speaker 1: think it's absolutely curtains. I think he's got like an
Speaker 1: energy drake empire to build and he's ready to do it,
Speaker 1: and his body is completely beat up. I know he's
Speaker 1: played really well. Um he was an amazing blocker two
Speaker 1: weeks ago and he was a nice receiver this past week,
Speaker 1: but his body last two for the playoffs. How many
Speaker 1: times can you go under the night, Like, at what
Speaker 1: point does your body? I mean, it sounds like the
Speaker 1: guy it's hard for him just to play football at
Speaker 1: this point. Um, so it would not be a surprise
Speaker 1: if he retires, right, No, I think we're I'm more
Speaker 1: like that. I'm sort of thinking how he does, yeah,
Speaker 1: how he does it, how it's handled during the week,
Speaker 1: and then certainly how you know if they win or lose,
Speaker 1: how how it happens after the game. But it would
Speaker 1: be great to see him go out in a blaze
Speaker 1: of glory. Mark, how about an ONSOB mystery from you?
Speaker 1: All right? I want to know what from the wilderness
Speaker 1: evil controversy will be unleashed on the Patriots, most likely
Speaker 1: smack dab this Sunday morning, with one dangerously long Super
Speaker 1: Bowl week to go, a controversy that forces us to
Speaker 1: reflect on Spygate and deflate Gate, while prompting four thousand
Speaker 1: journals heads to explode as their precious flock of pre
Speaker 1: written think pieces are sent into the abyss forever, as
Speaker 1: editorial deaths around the nation dissolved into panic over this
Speaker 1: latest latest Patriots false flag event, which is treated not
Speaker 1: unlike a third Gulf War. What Pat's controversy will arise?
Speaker 1: You tell me pour one out for Robert Stack. I
Speaker 1: have a theory, um, somebody will leak something time. The
Speaker 1: beginning of Spygate was, of course the Rams Patriots Superville. Yes,
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick cheated and he taped practices of the Rams
Speaker 1: preparing for the Super Bowl, which allowed him to then
Speaker 1: um great offenses of all time, leading to the first
Speaker 1: Pat's win. Um someone nonsense, someone connected to the those
Speaker 1: that videotaping scandal. Uh, these tapes under lock and key.
Speaker 1: I think we were told they were destroyed. They are
Speaker 1: going to show up. Well, that's like an unsolved mysteries
Speaker 1: update when they tell you what happened on the other
Speaker 1: end of the mystery. I thought you were gonna say, like,
Speaker 1: someone from that era is gonna start talking, and I
Speaker 1: would say, well, that's already been solved. I think Mike
Speaker 1: Martz and Dick vermal are actually at podiums right now
Speaker 1: in Atlanta speaking. There's no one there, but they're just
Speaker 1: complaining about the Patriots in general, and they're just waiting
Speaker 1: for everyone to show up so that they can talk
Speaker 1: about it. That's that's my predictions. I love that tapes well,
Speaker 1: well like perfect, like Mark Smell in a lot of
Speaker 1: Mark It's this week, who gets the tapes? Jay Glazer? Glazer,
Speaker 1: Let's see that's a good. That's good. Won't be Ian
Speaker 1: because it can't be anyone connected to the league. Um
Speaker 1: Chefty obviously is a guy. You can get it Glazer.
Speaker 1: He has so many. I'm gonna go to Chefty Chefty
Speaker 1: with one of the bigger scoops he's had in a while, big, big,
Speaker 1: big prediction by you all right, West, you got one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: here's here's an all unsolved mystery. You know, going back
Speaker 1: over a decade now, smart people, way smarter than us,
Speaker 1: have said the way to stop Tom Brady is pressure
Speaker 1: up the middle. As if that's not the way to
Speaker 1: stop any quarterback whoever played. Uh, he hasn't been hit
Speaker 1: and he hasn't been sacked in two playoff games. The
Speaker 1: interior of the Patriots offensive line is their strength. And
Speaker 1: now they go up against the defensive player of the
Speaker 1: year and in Dominican Sue, who's playing as well as
Speaker 1: he's played all year. What happens not if, but when
Speaker 1: Tom Brady finally gets hit, because it's coming. Aaron Donald
Speaker 1: is not going to be shut out and Dominican Sue
Speaker 1: is not gonna be shut out from hitting Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: This is a guy who for five years we were
Speaker 1: astonished that he had reversed aging to the point where
Speaker 1: his pocket movement actually improved late in his thirties and
Speaker 1: early forties, and this year, for the first time. We
Speaker 1: saw the opposite of that. We saw him flinch, we
Speaker 1: saw him turn his shoulders, we saw him shy away
Speaker 1: from contact. What happened? Can I offer that we have evidence? History?
Speaker 1: As you say, often Wes is instructive. When you do
Speaker 1: hassle Tom Brady, he is not nearly nearly as effective.
Speaker 1: So it's not really Are we gonna see the well
Speaker 1: last year? Though? I would say they did a good
Speaker 1: job getting after him in the Super Bowl and there
Speaker 1: they were all over him throughout the game and he
Speaker 1: kind of beat them. Anyways, are we gonna see the
Speaker 1: November Brady playing through an m c L injury or
Speaker 1: were gonna see the guy who looked it's pretty comfy
Speaker 1: in the pocket, I think the ladder. It's tough to
Speaker 1: tell because he I could Chargers game, the game plan
Speaker 1: like never allowed for him to get hit. He got
Speaker 1: rid of the ball so quickly last game. A lot
Speaker 1: of that was his own priest pre snap savvy, and
Speaker 1: some of it was the offensive line too, but he
Speaker 1: what it was at nineties seven plays they ran and
Speaker 1: he got grazed by Chris Jones's hand on his face mask,
Speaker 1: and that's it. Getting mc L Brady. Is Brady on
Speaker 1: the injury report from the shot to the face mask.
Speaker 1: I you know, sometimes they don't reveal these injuries, but
Speaker 1: I guarantee he's been feeling that Mark has been reliving
Speaker 1: that play again and again for some reason. That Jones
Speaker 1: stuck in your cry that bothered me legitimately was bothersome. Alright,
Speaker 1: one more round. Here's an unsolved mr. What is Tony
Speaker 1: Romo going to do as a follow up to the
Speaker 1: a f C Championship Game. No announcer has ever received
Speaker 1: praise at this level in real time. Maybe after a
Speaker 1: guy dies, you know, guy croaks and all of a sudden.
Speaker 1: If there was the Internet in the Madden days, he
Speaker 1: might have. But it's just button there. He was one
Speaker 1: of the biggest stories in football on Sunday, on a
Speaker 1: day in which both games to decide the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: went to overtime. That's that's That's a fact, Jack, And
Speaker 1: it shows us a couple of things. One, how incredible
Speaker 1: Romo is at the job. It's just you can't dispute
Speaker 1: that he's just a natural. Like the way Ted Williams
Speaker 1: was with the baseball bat and Shad, that's Romo with
Speaker 1: the mic number two, how the viewing habits of fans
Speaker 1: have become more attuned to this type of stuff we
Speaker 1: now and and and as for all the ills of
Speaker 1: social media, the fact that the communal nature of watching
Speaker 1: these telecasts, everybody likes to talk about Romo in real
Speaker 1: time now, so that it was like a perfect storm
Speaker 1: for the Romo love. But Romo knows this because he's
Speaker 1: been getting bombarded with interview requests and he reads all
Speaker 1: this stuff and his agents calling him and patting him
Speaker 1: on the back. What does Tony Romo do for an
Speaker 1: i'd core? Does he potentially get a little bit? You know?
Speaker 1: NOIVS is it? Can his will his his performance because
Speaker 1: CBS has the Super Bowl? Will his performance a week
Speaker 1: from Sunday suffer because of all the hype and just
Speaker 1: you know, the all the applauding of his of his performance.
Speaker 1: Will he suffer? I think he's a natural and it
Speaker 1: doesn't enter his mind, like he's not someone to second
Speaker 1: guess himself because it comes so naturally to him. And
Speaker 1: and I love Ramo. I think he's the best analyst
Speaker 1: I've heard in any sport ever. Um, but I would
Speaker 1: say people shot across Bob Costas is a bow by
Speaker 1: the way, he's not an analyst. People will accept the point.
Speaker 1: People overrate his ability to predict a win, a play
Speaker 1: is gonna happen. At underrate what he sees before the
Speaker 1: snap that the quarterback is going through as opposed to
Speaker 1: calling the exactly right play. I think by one area,
Speaker 1: if you talk about nerves, which I don't think he's
Speaker 1: really prone to the way that um some do. Some
Speaker 1: over prepare and they come in with all this prepackaged
Speaker 1: stuff that they forced down your throat. Romo doesn't do that.
Speaker 1: Romo lets the game come to him, which I think
Speaker 1: if it's a good game, you're gonna get vintage Romo.
Speaker 1: The one area if there was one little correctable thing.
Speaker 1: And other people love this about him. This is where
Speaker 1: I sometimes can could take it down and notches his excitement,
Speaker 1: Uh is so up in the sky and it's like,
Speaker 1: all right, cool, chill just a little bit. But although
Speaker 1: that's a very minor, minor critique because he is as
Speaker 1: close to perfect, I agree with Greg though. I think
Speaker 1: if you had Madden back in the day, when you
Speaker 1: realize what he is, when he's not when he became
Speaker 1: sort of ace hardware guy, you know, with his statements
Speaker 1: boom and all this, like when he was showing you
Speaker 1: stuff and he was writing books as well, that we're
Speaker 1: teaching people about football the way they never had. He
Speaker 1: was a teacher, and before he became you know, the
Speaker 1: latter stages version of him, he would have been getting
Speaker 1: some of this, uh this as well. Books are great.
Speaker 1: By the way, people always ask us for book recommend
Speaker 1: nations of football books and I never we never think
Speaker 1: to recommend those are The early Madden books are fun.
Speaker 1: There's no question. When Madden came on in the scene
Speaker 1: in like he was hailed like Romo is. Now. To me,
Speaker 1: the one big difference between them is that Madden was
Speaker 1: an expert on the interior. You're on the trenches, and
Speaker 1: he would tell you things about the offensive line that
Speaker 1: people never knew, whereas Romos seeing the game through the
Speaker 1: quarterbacks eyes, just as fans are seeing it through the
Speaker 1: quarterback's eyes. And I think that takes it to another level.
Speaker 1: Is a great point. Christopher, how about Pat summer Roll
Speaker 1: an ex player doing play by play? Now that's countercultural.
Speaker 1: That was great. Frank Gifford West, give us an unsolved
Speaker 1: Mr is nicol Robie Coleman ready to take the spotlight again,
Speaker 1: because nobody can keep Julian Edelman and check in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. In any Super Bowl, this guy has been
Speaker 1: unstoppable because of his mind meld with Tom Brady, his
Speaker 1: quick cutting ability, he's route running, his his punt return
Speaker 1: ability once he catches the ball. Marcus Peters and keep
Speaker 1: to Lee are too physically big to hang with Julian
Speaker 1: Edelman and coverage. They're never quick enough on those route
Speaker 1: adjustments where you gotta see it through Tom Brady's eyes.
Speaker 1: You need a five ft eight lightning bug, jitterbug like
Speaker 1: Nicole Robie Coleman, and he I think he's the only
Speaker 1: guy who can hang with Edelman, the guy that in
Speaker 1: a full on panic like basically blew the season first
Speaker 1: team and got bailed out by two completely in over
Speaker 1: their head officials. I think I'm nervous. Brady said, they've
Speaker 1: played their best four games of the year in a row,
Speaker 1: and in three of those they've and I think one
Speaker 1: of the maybe the number one reason other than Brady
Speaker 1: is is Edelman returning to his form. Uh And he
Speaker 1: said on his t shirts, you know bet against us
Speaker 1: Dan to the point where you talked about it. His
Speaker 1: shirts so much that someone from his apparel company or
Speaker 1: he heard it on the podcast, and he's sending not
Speaker 1: some bet against us, so maybe we can you can
Speaker 1: all wear that, we can all wear it at the Superman.
Speaker 1: How pathetic is that that that Edelman? I think it's great.
Speaker 1: It was a naked attempt to profit off the fans
Speaker 1: on a completely completely bs you know this theory that
Speaker 1: somehow everyone was against. The people were against, whether they
Speaker 1: respected or not, if different, and they were against. And
Speaker 1: if you're listening Julian Edelman's people, oh here we go.
Speaker 1: You know what. We don't watch your shirts want we
Speaker 1: all wanted. Everyone watched. Doesn't accept free things to curry favor.
Speaker 1: You do not even think about sending my kids for Toddler.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have any little ones, but
Speaker 1: I don't want your t shirt, Julian Eleman, I don't
Speaker 1: want anything from you. I'll take yours. Greg to hear
Speaker 1: that music. I feel like we have so much time
Speaker 1: place to talk about the game. I'm thinking more about
Speaker 1: off the field. How's a town, How is a town
Speaker 1: gonna be as a super Bowl city? And how is
Speaker 1: a town gonna show up for us Thursday night? During
Speaker 1: our lives show. To me, that's the un solved mystery
Speaker 1: that's most in my heart. What is that night that
Speaker 1: experience going to be like? And in general what kind
Speaker 1: of super Bowl city? Because Atlanta gets a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of heat as one of the great American
Speaker 1: underrated cities. I wanna I want to see if they
Speaker 1: come with it one actually, especially Thursday night at City Winery,
Speaker 1: is it gonna be kind of a raucous Atlanta crowd.
Speaker 1: I think that's what they bring. One early favorable sign
Speaker 1: is that we have listeners, one of them Ian Smith
Speaker 1: already sending along blogs and top ten us for breweries,
Speaker 1: bars and telling us which ones not to go to.
Speaker 1: If you go to my Twitter page, there is an
Speaker 1: article by Kyle Castroneck. If you're an immediate person going
Speaker 1: to Atlanta, he lists his way to survive and thrive
Speaker 1: in Atlanta as a that's a great drinker. And the
Speaker 1: who who sent to who's been sending us recommendations? Kyle Smith,
Speaker 1: a fellow named Ian Smith along this article and so
Speaker 1: he cares about us. That's very helpful. Breaking news again,
Speaker 1: Dowaoguan is fired by the Jets four minutes going on
Speaker 1: breaking news, my mom, who I'm not sure has ever
Speaker 1: listened to an episode of our podcast. I think she's
Speaker 1: driving down from Cincinnati and going to Situry Wine City
Speaker 1: Winery Thursday night to watch This Is Wesley. How far
Speaker 1: drive is that? It's like seven hours? It's that Wow,
Speaker 1: she might lie? Who knows she's retired? Now? Who knows
Speaker 1: what this is? Wesley? Admirable? Yeah? Is it? Debbie Wesley?
Speaker 1: Kate Wesley? Does she need, like, you know, someone to
Speaker 1: split the driving up with her? I feel like this
Speaker 1: could be a buddy road trip comedy. One of our listeners,
Speaker 1: your mom heads down to the show. She's got six sons.
Speaker 1: If you are in the Cincinnati area and you are
Speaker 1: driving down to Atlanta, you know, hit west up. Well
Speaker 1: that's I mean. Kate's been known to take off in
Speaker 1: her car from Cincinnati drive down to Longboat Key, Florida,
Speaker 1: which is like fifteen hours on her I like that,
Speaker 1: just on a whim. She just hops in. Yeah, she's
Speaker 1: not scared. One more? Uh did you did you go? Greg? Yeah?
Speaker 1: All right, here we go right the Atlantic thing? I agree, though,
Speaker 1: I hope it's a good town. It's gonna be cold.
Speaker 1: One annual Unsolved Mystery as we head into Super Bowl week. Also,
Speaker 1: like Greg's off the field, that's right, the over under
Speaker 1: drink count for Chris Wesley, we get it, he's a
Speaker 1: lot mostly a wine drinker now Shenanigans of old are gone.
Speaker 1: But what can we expect? Where do we set the
Speaker 1: over under? How will an amped up paramour affect the count?
Speaker 1: And what if Marshawn Lynch were to tweet out another
Speaker 1: image of his cleats hanging cutely on a wire to
Speaker 1: announce his second retirement, throwing West into a fit of
Speaker 1: rage when he has asked to drop everything he's doing
Speaker 1: to write a news or that Perilouslee mimics what he
Speaker 1: was asked to write during Super Bowl fifty. How about
Speaker 1: the X factor surrounding a bus of bearded hoodlums from
Speaker 1: hunka Poo's descending on Hot Lanta and stealing West away
Speaker 1: into the night? What is the over under? Mr wine drinker? Well?
Speaker 1: Can I ask a question before anyone even answers? Are
Speaker 1: we including his sojourn to Tybee Island that's going to
Speaker 1: take place after no no, no, through what I would
Speaker 1: consider Monday morning or the end of any drinking on
Speaker 1: Monday night into morning? I I don't think I'm the
Speaker 1: drinker I was before Canada noted. No. I mean, first
Speaker 1: of all, I can't drink beer. Why I could, It's
Speaker 1: just not enjoyable anymore. Um. But I also I think
Speaker 1: I've learned a little bit better when to say when,
Speaker 1: and I do have to take my health into consideration,
Speaker 1: So there aren't going to be like, I don't think
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of like double digit nights.
Speaker 1: That's why I think it's newsworthy because it's it's it
Speaker 1: marks what I would expect to be a I wouldn't
Speaker 1: I won't say drastic because do you remember London West. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say there are I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: this is regular season West talking, and regular season West
Speaker 1: takes his job very seriously. And uh there's also off
Speaker 1: season West, which even post cancer, I feel like was
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit different of an animal. Now super
Speaker 1: Bowl Week is in that strange purgatory in between. It's
Speaker 1: not it's definitely not the off season, but it's a
Speaker 1: little different where on the other side of West as
Speaker 1: prime as a drinker, And I'm just blessed, yeah that
Speaker 1: the gradual decline is hit and I'm I'm proud to
Speaker 1: have been there for a part of that prime which
Speaker 1: was enduring and it was Tom Brady and and it's
Speaker 1: and it's enduring, uh nature. But yeah, especially once you
Speaker 1: went away from beer, because that was one of my
Speaker 1: favorite things about pre cancer West that you were like
Speaker 1: one of those guys who could drink like thirty beers
Speaker 1: in one setting like Wade Bob Wade Bogs flying on
Speaker 1: a cross Giant, Yeah, road trip. You had that ability.
Speaker 1: But when you're drinking, they have they have a wine
Speaker 1: they have a word for that. When you're drinking wine
Speaker 1: and you're drinking vodka and things of that nature, you
Speaker 1: just can't. The numbers are not going to be as impressive,
Speaker 1: I would say, in my defense as far as Greg's
Speaker 1: word for it. Where I come from on the West
Speaker 1: side of Cincinnati and Tybee Island, the way I drink
Speaker 1: or drank is not unusual in any way. Maybe Greg's
Speaker 1: word was judgmental. I buy that. Wait, but I'm putting
Speaker 1: them one number at one for the week. Yes, that
Speaker 1: feels low. No that you take the under definitely on
Speaker 1: that a hundred. You're not the minor leagues as a
Speaker 1: drinker say, we're not I'm not buying that. Greg's word
Speaker 1: is probably right. If you hit a hundred and Atlanta, Oh,
Speaker 1: come on, class, we're hitting. I almost had to like
Speaker 1: ask about the presence of Erica as another X factor,
Speaker 1: because I think it does up, it adds more. Also
Speaker 1: having a dry January. Yeah, so it's gonna be. I
Speaker 1: can't wait. We're gonna be like a college freshman that's
Speaker 1: never had to drink and it's amazing. Wait, are you
Speaker 1: gonna as your driest January include Atlanta? Yeah, it's yeah,
Speaker 1: let's be really, she is like a lit match and
Speaker 1: y'all are kindling and she's just gonna Well, one, you
Speaker 1: can't drink as many wines as you drink beers because
Speaker 1: wines are stronger. So that's a factor. That's true. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's probably under I hope, so we'll monitor. Not a
Speaker 1: good situation. If you drink a d and ten glasses
Speaker 1: of wine when we're in Atlanta, you are Andre the Giant. No,
Speaker 1: you're right, I was thinking of pre cancer me and beer.
Speaker 1: What about like vodka sodas? Though, like no four or
Speaker 1: five and night. There's the problem. I make my own
Speaker 1: Tito's advantage. I don't enjoy the taste and then when
Speaker 1: I go to bars, it's like, holy crap, all you
Speaker 1: it's just straight. So I mean, you know you'd be
Speaker 1: needing to drink like thirteen glasses of wine at night. Again,
Speaker 1: I remember London, all right, what happens to London? Stays
Speaker 1: in London? Yeah, Erica, Okay, that's it. That's it for
Speaker 1: California shows before the end of the season. We will
Speaker 1: be on a plane, uh this weekend, all of us
Speaker 1: getting into Atlanta on Sunday and Monday. And again here's
Speaker 1: the schedule. Tuesday our next podcast, so I look out
Speaker 1: for that from Radio Row. We're we'll be doing all
Speaker 1: our shows in Atlanta at the Convention Center Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
Speaker 1: We will be doing a live NFL dot Com video show,
Speaker 1: which you can get I believe it's streams on the
Speaker 1: homepage of NFL dot com. And we're gonna have a
Speaker 1: ton of elite level guests. We could tease them, we could,
Speaker 1: can we tease them right now? I don't know if
Speaker 1: we should because I don't know if they maybe I
Speaker 1: don't know. These are some big time players, But you know,
Speaker 1: we can do We'll do it on Tuesday. Just know
Speaker 1: a lot of big stars will be can I speaking,
Speaker 1: drop ahead, go ahead, Well, there are several all pros.
Speaker 1: There's at least one Hall of Famer. There's another Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer in another sport. Yeah. Well there is some
Speaker 1: buzz that we make at a very uh genuine Rookie
Speaker 1: of the Year Kennedy as well, and also someone whose
Speaker 1: name rhymes with the bodger, jadel I. Just that's not true.
Speaker 1: Uh So we'll do three NFL dot com shows that
Speaker 1: will stream on the homepage. Thursday night, of course our
Speaker 1: live show at Sittery City Winery joined us there, and
Speaker 1: then of course on Sunday night, just Super Bowl fifty three,
Speaker 1: after a thirty seven sixteen Patriots conquest, we will talk
Speaker 1: about New England's latest Super Bowl conquest. It's it's been
Speaker 1: four told. The team is peaking, the Rams lucky to
Speaker 1: even be in the building. Let's face it, this is
Speaker 1: going to be a blowen one of our unsolved mysteries.
Speaker 1: How are you? How are you do you keep the
Speaker 1: Patriots under twenty eight points by halftime? The way they've
Speaker 1: been Mark's right. The coaching has been incredible. The game
Speaker 1: plans they've been drinning. I mean not just the coaching
Speaker 1: every phase. This teams to the next level. Now no,
Speaker 1: now nobody's underrating them. And you know you have a
Speaker 1: problem with it. Julian Edelman's people, send T shirt, your
Speaker 1: little T shirts because I know you have a ton
Speaker 1: of overstock, because nobody bought that garbage. Send it to
Speaker 1: everyone else. Send it to everybody else. But do not
Speaker 1: even think of addressing one to the old user. I
Speaker 1: don't want it. Send Ricky two, says the guy who
Speaker 1: locked them up. A Julian delivered that lock for you.
Speaker 1: I got the lock. I get it. If people are
Speaker 1: trying to sell me, steal or stuff, I would be
Speaker 1: throwing it right in the fireplace. But you would maybe
Speaker 1: give it to your your friends or maybe homeless. I
Speaker 1: guess I don't spread that out. And Dan doesn't like that.
Speaker 1: You can always use kindling. All right, that's it. We're
Speaker 1: on to Atlanta. They like that, Greg, I love it.
Speaker 1: What a great life. Dan hands is signing off for
Speaker 1: a quiet storm. The mailman, the old Boss, and Ricky
Speaker 1: Hollywood behind the glass whatever. Edelman to Atlanta