Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast, Greg can't wait to rep
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. Welcome to another dish of the Around the
Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Answers, and I'm joined
Speaker 1: in a stadium filled with heroes Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling,
Speaker 1: and Gregg Rose in ball. What is up? Boys? We
Speaker 1: are um concourse secually one nineteen to be exact, at
Speaker 1: Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta, Georgia, the site of Super
Speaker 1: Bowl fifty three and another conquest for the New England Patriots,
Speaker 1: who playing essentially what was Greg a home football game?
Speaker 1: You maybe we're talking forty Patriots, Fenser, this building, maybe more,
Speaker 1: maybe fifty cheering hard for a team that didn't put
Speaker 1: up a lot of points, but their defense hardly gave
Speaker 1: up any a thirteen to three win for the Path's
Speaker 1: title number six. And I can feel the electricity coming
Speaker 1: off you, Greg. Well, another victory for the house. We
Speaker 1: gotta we gotta fake some energy here. We gotta get
Speaker 1: up after a long, long week. And I know this
Speaker 1: isn't gonna be one of your favorite podcasts, Dan, but
Speaker 1: it was kind of an old school game in an
Speaker 1: old school night. It reminded me of New Orleans when
Speaker 1: a lot of people were behind the Patriots, not necessarily
Speaker 1: in that crowd but around the country that it did
Speaker 1: feel like a Patriots home game, and it almost made
Speaker 1: it too easy to write after the game that it
Speaker 1: was come full circle. It was teammates picking up Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: who didn't play particularly well. I think he had one
Speaker 1: of his worst games in what was probably his toughest
Speaker 1: season in a long time. It was a defense and
Speaker 1: the linebackers, especially getting after the opposition. It was a
Speaker 1: veteran secondary let that let them be creative upfront. It
Speaker 1: was their best cornerback Stephon Gilmore having a great game
Speaker 1: like Ty Law did back in the day. And it's
Speaker 1: special teams in defense. And you can almost imagine Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick likes this, you know, like that he likes showing
Speaker 1: that you can win games these types of ways. That
Speaker 1: it all came back to how it started for this dynasty,
Speaker 1: which was defense. You heard Greg's big takeaway right there,
Speaker 1: So let's go around the rest of the concourse filled
Speaker 1: with heroes West, what's your big takeaway from Super Bowl
Speaker 1: fifty three. During the week on Twitter, there was a
Speaker 1: lot of discussion about whether it was ridiculous to suggest
Speaker 1: that Julian Edelman is starting to build a Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame case, and I think it's no longer ridiculous to
Speaker 1: talk about it. I think you have to talk about
Speaker 1: it that the way Julian Edelman has played, especially in
Speaker 1: the postseason, He's now behind only Jerry Rice and receptions
Speaker 1: and yards in the postseason. The way he played there
Speaker 1: this three game stretch where it's almost like a Larry
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald level of play that he's had in the postseason,
Speaker 1: you have to talk about him as a guy who
Speaker 1: has a chance. There was during this playoff run and
Speaker 1: into tonight. His his numbers speak for themselves. Ten for one,
Speaker 1: forty one, twelve targets uh time after time, big plays
Speaker 1: that move the chains and kept Patriots drives alive on
Speaker 1: a day where their offense wasn't very good overall. And
Speaker 1: if you put watch him, if you keep your eyes
Speaker 1: on him, UH won the ball snap he gets instant
Speaker 1: separation right off the line. It's uncanny. I joked about
Speaker 1: it on the Thursday Show, Mark that he's Jerry Rice
Speaker 1: from the Just Brought Uprights. He's Jerry Rice for the
Speaker 1: first five weeks with the calendar season, but he could
Speaker 1: not be covered. At one point early in this game.
Speaker 1: I believe he had seven catches uh midway or early
Speaker 1: in the second quarter, and they just they had to
Speaker 1: change their defense. The Ramps said, we cannot cover Julian
Speaker 1: Edelman one on one. This is a thirty two, thirty
Speaker 1: three year old UH wide receiver coming off knee surgery
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. You know, I don't think
Speaker 1: Marcus Peters is a perfect person to be on Julian
Speaker 1: Edelman and Julian Edelman. You know, the route running, the
Speaker 1: way that he created extra yardage after making you know,
Speaker 1: they seemed to run the same play two Edelman and
Speaker 1: Gronk over and over, like the old version of Tech
Speaker 1: Navol with just four plays. But it works because he
Speaker 1: was able to, you know, dart around defenders and get
Speaker 1: those extra first down catches. My takeaway though, is that
Speaker 1: we spend so much time really bathing in this matchup
Speaker 1: between Bill Belichick and Sean Sean McVeigh. Sean McVeigh is
Speaker 1: a great coach and he's going to be back here.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he will be with his team, But he
Speaker 1: comes the way out of this game with a lot
Speaker 1: to reflect on and learn because the three games stretched
Speaker 1: by New England's coaching staff is I think, for me,
Speaker 1: the best three game playoff coaching stretch that I've seen
Speaker 1: by any team. It starts for me with Brian Flores,
Speaker 1: who you know, I was listening to the CBS broadcast
Speaker 1: on one of those little ear things that you can
Speaker 1: switch between that and a Spanish broadcast. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know any spends do you get this equipment?
Speaker 1: I mean I should have maybe done it. How Is
Speaker 1: how Is? Romo was great, but I think Romo would
Speaker 1: have Romo would have had the game been a little
Speaker 1: juice here, had the chance to have a little more
Speaker 1: of a juice here performance and barely mentioned Brian Flores
Speaker 1: deep into this game. Who now goes to the Miami Dolphins,
Speaker 1: and I think finally we might have someone pulled out
Speaker 1: of the Patriots system. We'll find out, We'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 1: But you know what, he was phenomenal over this, this
Speaker 1: this three week stretch and what they did, what they
Speaker 1: were able to do against the Rams. Who you start
Speaker 1: to stay that people are starting to break down looking
Speaker 1: back at the film. They stayed in one eleven personnel
Speaker 1: the Rams. They did not move out of it. They
Speaker 1: did not adjust. It was the Patriots that were able
Speaker 1: to make adjustments and the Rams never did. Sean mcbick
Speaker 1: killed himself after the game for his own play calling.
Speaker 1: What a difference a year makes, too, because obviously, if
Speaker 1: you work on Bill Belichick's staff, it is it is
Speaker 1: a gateway to get head coaching jobs. And we were
Speaker 1: at this game last year when Matt Patricia's defense gets
Speaker 1: carved up for over five hundred yards and he gets
Speaker 1: introduced as the Lions coached like three days later, and
Speaker 1: it was a little bit awkward because it was like,
Speaker 1: You're supposed to be this defensive guru and you just
Speaker 1: got shredded in the biggest game of your life. I
Speaker 1: imagine Lions fans were a little, you know, worried about that,
Speaker 1: and they're probably still worried about that, Patricia. Now the
Speaker 1: Dolphins fans and Dolphins fans don't get a lot of
Speaker 1: nice things, but even handsome Hank, our friend who's Miami fan,
Speaker 1: has to be feeling great now. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you're like, whoa, we got the gifted defensive mind of
Speaker 1: a generation. But that's what this game spawns a lot
Speaker 1: of optimism. I'm sure in Miami tonight after what we saw,
Speaker 1: their defensive personnel wasn't that much better this year than
Speaker 1: it was a year ago. And and so you have
Speaker 1: to credit the coaching for being better. And they were
Speaker 1: better throughout the season on defense, and they were especially
Speaker 1: better the last five weeks. That was a difference in
Speaker 1: speaking of like how different this year is? This is
Speaker 1: our one the one year anniversary the Super Bowl was
Speaker 1: of Josh McDaniels getting announced as a head coach of
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts. And it's like, you have these two
Speaker 1: old defensive mind know Flores did a great job too,
Speaker 1: but ultimately you have these two older defensive minds that
Speaker 1: have been in the league for thirty ye or the years,
Speaker 1: Bill Beljick and Wade Philps putting it on him them
Speaker 1: young and McDaniels and Sean McVeigh in a year that
Speaker 1: all we did was talk about offense. My takeaway, uh
Speaker 1: is it's in the realm of Marx is that it
Speaker 1: was just a humbling night for Sean McVeigh in company.
Speaker 1: But their quarterback, it was a tough, tough game for
Speaker 1: Jared Goffer. We're gonna get into all that, and and
Speaker 1: the big plays in this game. But I just didn't
Speaker 1: think golf, you know, I don't think he rose in
Speaker 1: the moment. And I know the offensive line did not
Speaker 1: have a good game, and that shouldn't be overlooked either.
Speaker 1: Los Angeles is old line allowed the quarterback to get
Speaker 1: hit and hit a lot, and the young quarterback Jared
Speaker 1: Goff wilted. I think in this game, uh, and including
Speaker 1: and the two biggest two of the biggest plays of
Speaker 1: the game. Uh, he made fatal mistakes. So Jared Goff,
Speaker 1: I still he is still obviously a guy that Rams
Speaker 1: fans and Sean McVeigh should believe in. But this is
Speaker 1: the game that says, oh, I'll remember him coming up.
Speaker 1: Smallness game. I mean, we talked at times where let's
Speaker 1: diagnose one weakness that the Patriots, you know, could be
Speaker 1: hurt by it. At times it was their lack of
Speaker 1: pass rush. Tonight, they were so disruptive and again you
Speaker 1: were playing essentially Atulette Stadium. Tom Brady said that right
Speaker 1: after the game. So for the second game in a row,
Speaker 1: Jared Goff and the Rams were dealing with insane noise
Speaker 1: and a lopsided crowd, but they got to him. They rushed,
Speaker 1: they blitzed on like half their snaps on defense. They
Speaker 1: went after Did that annoy you, Dan? You you started
Speaker 1: this show with that? And I said the Patriots crowd
Speaker 1: was that in your have it? No, not at all.
Speaker 1: In fact, this is the least annoying Patriots super Bowl
Speaker 1: I've ever been a part of, just because there wasn't
Speaker 1: a lot of like Jews in the sense of there
Speaker 1: was no epic comeback, there was no snatching victory from
Speaker 1: the jaws of defeat. It was just uh Patriots team
Speaker 1: that kind of outlasted an opponent that just wasn't ready
Speaker 1: for this game and wasn't able to get the job.
Speaker 1: Then it wasn't like a heartbreaking win for the Patriots
Speaker 1: from a Patriots tater, I didn't know if they of
Speaker 1: fans because it was an advantage and and it was legit.
Speaker 1: But what I was, what I meant to say, was
Speaker 1: that we were here all week and this place, this
Speaker 1: whole city, Atlanta was teaming. It was lousy with Patriots fans.
Speaker 1: And then I think an Uber driver said to me yesterday, Oh,
Speaker 1: all the Rams fans are getting in today, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't think so. And they never did
Speaker 1: show up there The telling moment for me was I
Speaker 1: was walking around the Convention Center outside the stadium before
Speaker 1: the game, and they had dozens and dozens of people
Speaker 1: that worked either for the league or for the Rams
Speaker 1: trying to hand out these yellow rally towels for free,
Speaker 1: trying to give out five at a time. I see
Speaker 1: when our producer Jason Kleinden gotta Rams that then they
Speaker 1: couldn't give them away because there weren't enough Rams fans
Speaker 1: in this building. So the fan base maybe wasn't ready
Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl. Yet, either you're right and you're
Speaker 1: right about golf, and yet it's it is such a
Speaker 1: team game. It's like, did he play that much worse
Speaker 1: than Tom Brady? It's like, if you if you look
Speaker 1: at the IFF score, Brady even had a worst game.
Speaker 1: I don't know that. I wouldn't big drive in the
Speaker 1: fourth corps. I wouldn't go that far. But I think
Speaker 1: Brady was lifted by his teammates and his coaches, certainly
Speaker 1: more more than golf. And in a in a game
Speaker 1: where the Patriots defense and running game didn't show up
Speaker 1: as much, you know, I mean it was a total
Speaker 1: failure for the Rams because you opened the game with
Speaker 1: eight straight punts and not really any of those drives
Speaker 1: said any sort of promise that they were going to
Speaker 1: get into flow on offense. Let's get into almost twice
Speaker 1: as many yards as the Rams. I mean this, Brady
Speaker 1: had a better game than golf. Let's get into this
Speaker 1: game kind of going through some of the big plays,
Speaker 1: and we could uh stop down to talk about whenever
Speaker 1: we want, because this game starts with the Rams winning
Speaker 1: the toss. Heads doesn't always work, just when it when
Speaker 1: it matters. The far as I'm concerned, it worked. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well that's fair. The Rams win the kickoff, they defer,
Speaker 1: the Patriots use the running game and start moving right
Speaker 1: down the field. They're matriculating, as they say. Tom Brady
Speaker 1: drops back for his first pass of the game, and
Speaker 1: this happens. Chocolates half back to Brady, looking right all
Speaker 1: the way. He gets rid of it quickly. It sipped
Speaker 1: up in the air, hit, intercepted, picks up at the
Speaker 1: funny seven yard line. Tory Littleton with the takeaway on
Speaker 1: the games first possession. That's our buddy JB. Long and
Speaker 1: your neighbor there west of Rams radio. Uh, it was
Speaker 1: a poor pass targeted and Chris Hogan who just cannot
Speaker 1: catch a ball thrown to him by Tom Brady, which
Speaker 1: is maybe a bit of an indictment. This was Chris
Speaker 1: Sogan's last game as a Patriot. Let's be real, it
Speaker 1: would have to be so in auspice should start for
Speaker 1: Brady and the Pats. But it didn't matter because, like
Speaker 1: you said, Mark, after that, the Rams are in a
Speaker 1: total shell. In fact, these are the This is the
Speaker 1: first half for the Rams on offense. Three plays punt
Speaker 1: five place punt three plays punt five place pump punt
Speaker 1: three place punt three places punt half. So while the
Speaker 1: Patriots are trying to figure their stuff out, the Rams
Speaker 1: weren't even showing a pulsewiss the Rams. This is why I,
Speaker 1: you know, I kind of bristle with the notion that
Speaker 1: the golf only barely outplayed Brady. No, I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to performances. Might be the worst Super Bowl performance I've
Speaker 1: ever seen by a quarterback. He held the balls super Bowl.
Speaker 1: It's on the same level. He just held the ball
Speaker 1: so long and and Brady was getting rid of the
Speaker 1: ball at least, and I think that was a difference.
Speaker 1: But this Rams offense, we went in to do a
Speaker 1: Sky Sports hit And Neil Reynolds must have asked me
Speaker 1: the same question four different times. What can the Rams
Speaker 1: do differently? Do they have to get creative? Do they
Speaker 1: have to come up with trick plays? What can they
Speaker 1: do differently? And nothing was working, including the running game,
Speaker 1: which they came out and they tried, they tried to run,
Speaker 1: they couldn't. And I think, as a Patriots fan, like
Speaker 1: what was so satisfying is everyone got in on the action.
Speaker 1: It was it was hard to even like pick one
Speaker 1: guy in the first half that's totally standing out. Kyle
Speaker 1: Vannoy had a ridiculous postseason. I would say he was
Speaker 1: their postseason defensive m v P. Tree Flowers would be close,
Speaker 1: but Van Noy and Gilmore, you know, we're awesome in
Speaker 1: this game. But it was also wise in the first
Speaker 1: half making plays. It was our old friend Danny Shelton
Speaker 1: from the Browns that that move finally paid it off
Speaker 1: with a couple of plays, and it was like it
Speaker 1: didn't matter which one. It was like someone was winning.
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley, you know, we could put the bow on
Speaker 1: what was a incredibly mysterious and frustrating end of the
Speaker 1: season for one of the league's best players. He's he
Speaker 1: was once again. Uh and a report emerged by Ian
Speaker 1: Rappaport of NFL Network that it would be a time
Speaker 1: share on Sunday, and that's exactly what happened. Uh. He
Speaker 1: had ten touches on the ground and one catch for
Speaker 1: a negative one yard through the area thirty five yards.
Speaker 1: He just wasn't the same guy. Whatever it is, and
Speaker 1: you kind of want to be surprised West if we
Speaker 1: if we hear more. Despite them saying that his name
Speaker 1: was healthy, he was never right in the playoffs. I
Speaker 1: fully expect to hear that there's more to it, and really, yes,
Speaker 1: we've we've seen this guy play when he's healthy. He
Speaker 1: is a first team All Pro Offensive Player of the
Speaker 1: Year m VP candidate when he's healthy, and when he's
Speaker 1: whatever he is now he's in a time share and
Speaker 1: can't do anything effective. Like basketball players going slumps, they're great,
Speaker 1: baseball pitchers have a bad month. He he played two
Speaker 1: and a half times as many snaps as CZJ Anderson.
Speaker 1: So the reality is he played two thirds of this game,
Speaker 1: which is which is not a typical. His confidence, for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, seemed to be a problem. They didn't seem
Speaker 1: to trust them in past protection and I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, he just wasn't a confidention like c. J.
Speaker 1: Anderson on the sideline talking to him to all game
Speaker 1: and confidence is an issue, But what would be the
Speaker 1: number one reason running back with lack confidence? It's if
Speaker 1: you don't feel fully healthy. I mean he doesn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would think it has to be tied to an injury.
Speaker 1: If we're talking about he has some type of crisis
Speaker 1: and faith or belief in himself out of nowhere, that
Speaker 1: would be totally bizarre and really, quite frankly, more troublesome
Speaker 1: than a lingering me and Dnerson didn't do anything more
Speaker 1: in this game, and which was also a problem for them,
Speaker 1: And he's lucky he didn't lose a fumble as well.
Speaker 1: He fumbled, he didn't lose it. It It rolled out of bounds,
Speaker 1: almost causing a huge turnover. But Anderson didn't do anything
Speaker 1: in the NFC title game either, so that the bloom
Speaker 1: was a little bit off. The c J. Anderson rose
Speaker 1: and with that gone and Todd Gurley still not playing
Speaker 1: at a high level, the Rams were exposed a little
Speaker 1: bit on offense and it put more on golf and
Speaker 1: that was not a good thing considering how poorly the
Speaker 1: quarterback played today. They were they were never the same
Speaker 1: after the you know, the game that revolutionized football or
Speaker 1: you know, changed football forever. They were never the same
Speaker 1: from that point forward. They took a week off, they
Speaker 1: came back, and they were a below average passing game
Speaker 1: for how many weeks was that? Seven? Now eight? And
Speaker 1: that's a pretty long time. They were pretty They were
Speaker 1: good running team for for a chunk of that, but
Speaker 1: they were a below average passing team. So the Patriots
Speaker 1: greg have the ball constantly as a result of the
Speaker 1: drive charts that I just laid out earlier. The Patriots
Speaker 1: have the ball uh an exceeding amount of time, but
Speaker 1: uh Gaskowski misses his first field goal tempt badly. Uh.
Speaker 1: He eventually does hit a field goal uh to give
Speaker 1: them three points. But why weren't the Patriots able to
Speaker 1: do more? Well? I was a number of things, and
Speaker 1: it was West mentioned to me. It was as stressed
Speaker 1: and freaked out he's ever seen me. I think. Was
Speaker 1: that what you were going to say? West? It was?
Speaker 1: The peace scale was at nine point five. And this
Speaker 1: is noteworthy because every time you're asked you say it's
Speaker 1: at one. Well, we never believe. Well, here's the thing,
Speaker 1: it's always that one before the game starts. When the
Speaker 1: game starts, then it starts going up and doesn't even
Speaker 1: the most not just in football, it was the most
Speaker 1: stressed and nervous I've ever seen you in life. It
Speaker 1: just seemed like they were so much they were better. Wow,
Speaker 1: well I'll take that as a compliment. Uh. It just
Speaker 1: seemed like they were so much better, and they were
Speaker 1: blowing so many opportunities through some unforced errors and just
Speaker 1: struggle was like they I just couldn't imagine the defensive
Speaker 1: performance that they had would last all game. And the
Speaker 1: fact that they're just have five drives in the first
Speaker 1: half that reached at least the forty yard line of
Speaker 1: the Rams and they scored three points. I mean, that's unbelievable,
Speaker 1: and that's so unpatriot like. And a lot of it
Speaker 1: was Tom Brady not feeling very comfortable and throwing groundballs
Speaker 1: and throwing screen passes before it's time, and him just
Speaker 1: not feeling like it's you know, it didn't feel like
Speaker 1: it was his night phone. I mean in the sense
Speaker 1: you're it felt to me unsuperabowl like for large periods
Speaker 1: of time because these are, in theory the two best
Speaker 1: teams in the NFL unable to finish drives. And I
Speaker 1: kept thinking around sort of late third quarter when it
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Speaker 1: Let's get back to the killer game. Let's now talk
Speaker 1: about the fourth and one play for the Patriots. Was
Speaker 1: one thirteen to play in the second quarter. Like Greg
Speaker 1: was saying, they were able to get the ball past
Speaker 1: the fifty and then something was happening between like the
Speaker 1: forty and thirty yard line. In this case, they had
Speaker 1: fourth in a long one from the thirty two and
Speaker 1: they had been running the ball to success all through
Speaker 1: the playoffs. But the Patriots go with an empty backfield
Speaker 1: Brady and shotgun formation, and here's how it played out
Speaker 1: the fourth bit one fourth and one in the past,
Speaker 1: you're gonna go empty quarterback of Stendylahans and taking the
Speaker 1: staff backs up looks to throw fires down the middle.
Speaker 1: Fourth Na wait, Don Brady threw that ball into traffic.
Speaker 1: Not a chance turn over on downs with one thirteen
Speaker 1: to go. Just stall city right now. On offense. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but the backs that we have in our
Speaker 1: emphasis to run the football with doubling and all that,
Speaker 1: you can't pick up fourth one. We gotta fourth one
Speaker 1: again the rams have I mean I was, I was
Speaker 1: feeling the same way because that's all I got. The
Speaker 1: same guy, Let's just face it. No, I saw him
Speaker 1: earlier today, you know, Glad hogging and enjoying the the
Speaker 1: devotion that Patriots fans give him. And he he is
Speaker 1: about three times as large as I am. I would
Speaker 1: say more than three times. It was driving me crazy,
Speaker 1: and that play was kind of typical Brady, not comfortable
Speaker 1: enough to hold the ball a little longer, to maybe
Speaker 1: try to find a different open receiver and throwing into traffic.
Speaker 1: There was a there was a third down where he
Speaker 1: just he had White wide open and he made White
Speaker 1: kind of dive for it, and that, like miss target,
Speaker 1: was the reason that play didn't work. And there was
Speaker 1: a number of plays just like that in the first
Speaker 1: half and would in Waite. Phelps deserves a lot of
Speaker 1: credit for it too, though, like the interception was a
Speaker 1: play that he was just fool. They were playing zone
Speaker 1: defense and they were rotating after the snap, and I
Speaker 1: can think of multiple plays and looting went to Hogan
Speaker 1: where Brady thought he had a guy wide open, and
Speaker 1: he was shocked that there was a Rams cornerback there.
Speaker 1: So we go into the half three nothing um in
Speaker 1: favor of the Patriots, and I'll tell you this, I
Speaker 1: went for a walk in the concourse and again it
Speaker 1: cannot be understated how Propatriots this building was um to
Speaker 1: the point where in the pregame stretches and things of
Speaker 1: that nature when the Rams are coming out, the place
Speaker 1: just was. The booing was relentless, and anytime Brady came
Speaker 1: up on the on the and this is an amazing stadium.
Speaker 1: By the way, this stadium makes me want to pick
Speaker 1: it outside MetLife Stadium in New Jersey and take take
Speaker 1: the l Jets and Giants, get out the wrecking ball
Speaker 1: and try again. I know your facilities build this exact thing,
Speaker 1: because I think not only should the Jets and Giants
Speaker 1: tear down that dump that they got, I think a
Speaker 1: lot of teams should come here and look at what
Speaker 1: this place looks like. From the design of it, the
Speaker 1: uniqueness of it, the Megatron's butth hole and also the
Speaker 1: video screen which is state of the art. And Megatron's
Speaker 1: butth hole is the roof that opens up and in
Speaker 1: an act, a showy act that I really enjoyed, they
Speaker 1: opened it just so the Fighter Jets could go over
Speaker 1: and after Gladys Night did her opening and then they
Speaker 1: shut up. They shut the butt hole up and they said,
Speaker 1: let's get to football. The butthole clothes. I mean one
Speaker 1: thing I'd say, when the Patriots go back to the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl next year, can we can we cease with
Speaker 1: this narrative that Patriots fans have been to too many
Speaker 1: of these and no one's going to show up. This
Speaker 1: is essentially if you live in New England or your Patriot,
Speaker 1: you build this into the family budget. At this point,
Speaker 1: we are all going to be going to the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: four or five of us. Save your pennies in the summer,
Speaker 1: and you know, you know we are, we being the
Speaker 1: media being everyone doesn't root for the Patriots, the opponents
Speaker 1: fans that come the opponents themselves. It's like Truman Show,
Speaker 1: We're all here to serve as entertainment and fodder, cannon
Speaker 1: fodder for this like forty thousand, uh people in one
Speaker 1: corner of the country and then Ricky Hollywood and Greg
Speaker 1: Rosenal Scott Zolac in this case, that's what this has become.
Speaker 1: That was a different story twelve months ago on this
Speaker 1: the biggest sporting event in the world, number on Super
Speaker 1: Bowl Sunday. It's all about entertainment for a tiny portion
Speaker 1: of this country. And it's fine. That's not my point.
Speaker 1: My point is at halftime, I walked the concourse and
Speaker 1: speaking of butts, people were walking a little tight butted
Speaker 1: the Patriots And there wasn't a lot of whooping and
Speaker 1: hollering and hooting and hollering that you heard before the
Speaker 1: game when this felt like it was a coronation to
Speaker 1: a lot of people who got their road trip on
Speaker 1: to beat up on the Rams. There was a nervous
Speaker 1: energy in this building at halftime when it was three nothing,
Speaker 1: because it was a weird half of football. It did
Speaker 1: feel like it could go either way. I don't think
Speaker 1: a lot of people that came to this game from
Speaker 1: your little area of the country, Greg, I thought this
Speaker 1: was going to be a game. I think they came
Speaker 1: here to celebrate. I mean, I don't know. That seems
Speaker 1: crazy to me because going into the game, you know,
Speaker 1: these are two there. It's a it's a coin flip game.
Speaker 1: But you're right. At that point, I was feeling the
Speaker 1: same way that you're right. A lot of people walking
Speaker 1: around a feeling which was not good about the situation.
Speaker 1: It was just it's just uncomfortable to see Tom Brady
Speaker 1: playing that poorly in a game where you have so
Speaker 1: many mischances. But the thing that made me feel better
Speaker 1: because you you mentioned the stadium, was all the delicious
Speaker 1: food options everywhere around this stadium. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: have a great restaurant in Atlanta, there's a version of
Speaker 1: it in this stadium. So I just wanted to back
Speaker 1: up what you were saying, is the best stadium when
Speaker 1: U two urban licks, you got the you know, you
Speaker 1: got the barbecue places, you got it all. When halftime hit,
Speaker 1: I thought of the two teams who combined for over
Speaker 1: a hundred points in that shootout, the Chiefs and Rams,
Speaker 1: two of the best offenses of the season, combined for
Speaker 1: zero points in the first half. The list two games
Speaker 1: against the Patriots who allowed seven points in the first
Speaker 1: half of three playoff games. The last team to do
Speaker 1: that was the five Bears against three statistically of the
Speaker 1: best five offenses in football. I mean, it's it's really
Speaker 1: insane because who is the Patriots best defensive players. It's
Speaker 1: what Flowers and Stefan Gilmore. But there, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Mentioned Brian Floors more than twice during the broadcast. Possibly
Speaker 1: you know that's fair. So we go to the second
Speaker 1: half and it's more of the same punts on both sides,
Speaker 1: the Patriots and Rams um trading punts. And then on
Speaker 1: the third possession of the third quarter of the Rams
Speaker 1: finally get to work. It's a ten play drive. Uh
Speaker 1: it ends with a fifty three yard Greg the leg
Speaker 1: Zirlne field goal. But the play that will be remembered
Speaker 1: in a play Jason Kleman, our producer for Twitter, who's
Speaker 1: sitting behind Ricky Hollywood right now, right now we'll remember
Speaker 1: forever is Jared Goff and those late eyes over the
Speaker 1: middle with Brandon Cooks all alone in the back of
Speaker 1: the end zone. Let's listen to that. Calls from the
Speaker 1: t on they wanted thro go well protected. He climbs.
Speaker 1: He throws end zone all alone back of the end
Speaker 1: zone incomplete to Brandon Cooks. He was underneath the goal
Speaker 1: post and when Golf let it go, there wasn't a
Speaker 1: patriot within ten yards. Jason mccordy close quickly. That should
Speaker 1: have been six disastrous And if you watched, like I
Speaker 1: was saying, well, in this in this facility they have
Speaker 1: in the round video board that not only is it
Speaker 1: they do a great job of stats, they have uh
Speaker 1: instant replays on a high definition of screen. And you
Speaker 1: looked up at it and you can actually see Goff's
Speaker 1: eyes scanning left and then he's there just a hair
Speaker 1: too long. Finally sees Cooks and then I don't even
Speaker 1: think he put a good ball on him West the
Speaker 1: ball duck. It was a little bit of a duck
Speaker 1: and allowed mccordy to catch up and knock it away.
Speaker 1: It was It was a game changing play. I wonder
Speaker 1: if the Rams win the game if that if golf
Speaker 1: season is split second earlier, I mean, that was a
Speaker 1: coverage bust. He was wide open, and I think the
Speaker 1: whole stadium saw it before the quarter. He was slow
Speaker 1: all game, but Jason mccordy deserves a ton of credit.
Speaker 1: He made a few game changing plays that It's another
Speaker 1: trade that they made in the off season that had
Speaker 1: huge dividends. Basically gave up nothing for a guy who's
Speaker 1: played quality snaps all year and he played his best
Speaker 1: game in the Super Bowl. He broke up three deep passes,
Speaker 1: and him talking after the game about the experience with
Speaker 1: him and his twin brother, it's just like, you know,
Speaker 1: you can only imagine what that must feel like to
Speaker 1: be on the field with your twin brother that you
Speaker 1: had never played with before, you know, in the pros,
Speaker 1: and to come up that big on that stage is
Speaker 1: just it's possible. It's it could be the final game
Speaker 1: for both of them. I mean, that's there's whispers about that.
Speaker 1: That was one example of a play where on television
Speaker 1: it looks great. But to be here and watch that
Speaker 1: closing speed before breaking up that pass from whe we
Speaker 1: were sitting, that's that's the benefit of being here live,
Speaker 1: because it was just it was an incredibly outlets for
Speaker 1: Rams fans and me and a lot of people rooting
Speaker 1: against Patriots to see that ball just hanging in the air.
Speaker 1: It was it reminded me of post shoulder surgery. Chad
Speaker 1: Pennington's you know, it reminded me of play theory and
Speaker 1: Boomer and it just would not if he could have
Speaker 1: put the ball with some zip on it, maybe he
Speaker 1: could have snuck it in there. And uh, Jason mccordy
Speaker 1: was playing, and on the telecast, Tony Romo made the
Speaker 1: point that Patrick Chung, who had gone out with a
Speaker 1: broken arm earlier in the quarter. Uh, and I saw
Speaker 1: him by the way in the locker room with the
Speaker 1: sling off. I saw him running around the feet. They
Speaker 1: took the sling off in the locker room after the game,
Speaker 1: and they had he was walking and they were walking
Speaker 1: so slow, and you can see the pain in his
Speaker 1: face being led to the trainer's room for whatever comes
Speaker 1: next as he begins what will probably be a long rehab.
Speaker 1: But Romo said that mccordy was in a different position
Speaker 1: than Chung would have been um for whatever reason, and
Speaker 1: that there's a play that will hunt the rams and
Speaker 1: then to top it off, Goff that takes a nine
Speaker 1: yard sack. He took some terrible sacks and this again
Speaker 1: GoF just played terribly in this game and and Greg
Speaker 1: like bailed them out to get the tie. But that
Speaker 1: was a missed opportunity ultimately, and that, yeah, that that
Speaker 1: broken arm. It's like the Patriots have done this so
Speaker 1: many times. There's echoes of a lot of moments, but
Speaker 1: that was so reminiscent of Rodney Harrison breaking his arm
Speaker 1: on the last drive of the Panthers Super Bowl, but
Speaker 1: being there in his uniform throughout the second half to
Speaker 1: watch his teammates. The Patriots have been to the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl so many times that literally everything has already happened. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's I was saying to Greg and our walk over
Speaker 1: to the concourse that Greg made the point that Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick on the riser with his his grand with his grandchild,
Speaker 1: uh granddaughter, granddaughter. It was like, you know, he's never
Speaker 1: been happier. I've never seen him so happy. He's like,
Speaker 1: that's a trope we heard so many times. You know,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, you know he's happy. He's having fun this
Speaker 1: year at the Super Bowl. Bill Belichick, you know he's
Speaker 1: smiled a little bit this year. You know I've heard
Speaker 1: we've run out of things and angles with this team.
Speaker 1: Well you just let it, let us go. They let
Speaker 1: us start the gatorade, the gatorade, Well, what are we
Speaker 1: supposed to talk about the gatorade bath and the and
Speaker 1: first of all, the granddaughter was a new twist never
Speaker 1: had he was never carrying something. I mean, it really
Speaker 1: you know, humanized him. And then there was a moment
Speaker 1: I was thinking of before that I don't know if
Speaker 1: I was on camera, but I was looking at it
Speaker 1: through the banacos with him and Gronk where they were
Speaker 1: sort of like giddy and jumping up and I've never
Speaker 1: I've never seen Belichick. Well. There was also a moment
Speaker 1: where the smile was not on his face when after
Speaker 1: the three game, the celebrations were beginning, a cameraman tried
Speaker 1: to get up into Belichick's trail and take a photo
Speaker 1: and Belichick like took a step forward, grabbed him basically
Speaker 1: and shoved him back, and they showed it up on
Speaker 1: one of these huge screens here, and it was like,
Speaker 1: I realized that point that Bill Belichick is not a
Speaker 1: weak person. He had he showed like superhuman, scary type
Speaker 1: strength for a second guy. And you know what, I
Speaker 1: would have loved if he would have been taken into
Speaker 1: police custody tonight. That would have been a great story
Speaker 1: for the morning. In a few more years. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be Brady with his granddaughter after the game, like postgame interview,
Speaker 1: and he's got a great granddaughter and then his great
Speaker 1: great great granddaughter. It's like Bill Belichick, he was a
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five today. I mean, what is going
Speaker 1: on here? But I mean you can't push a guy down.
Speaker 1: That's assault, brother, it's fantast perfect and speaking in which
Speaker 1: Pat Patriot on the field doing jumping Jackson cart wheels
Speaker 1: and running around in the confetti. What a phony that
Speaker 1: guy could be soon? Are you certain professionalism here, Daniel? No?
Speaker 1: You know it's like four days ago we're told he's
Speaker 1: an I see you and now he's dancing around on
Speaker 1: the field. There's two of them. There's there's a few
Speaker 1: of them anyway, So well, this is getting dark. Oh
Speaker 1: my voice, last wrestle the show? Um so three three
Speaker 1: and Greg, here we go. This is where it all changes.
Speaker 1: The patch of the you know the Pats. Here we
Speaker 1: are in the fourth quarter. It's three three, and we
Speaker 1: have never had a game with this lowest score entering
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. But you just knew the way the
Speaker 1: game was moving, and this is kind of goes back.
Speaker 1: I guess why I'm not so annoyed. And obviously I'm annoyed,
Speaker 1: but I'm not devastated right now. Is that you kind
Speaker 1: of knew where the game was heading because golf was
Speaker 1: playing so poorly and the Rams offense looks so lost.
Speaker 1: But and you knew, you knew Brady had one big
Speaker 1: drive in him, And I thought it was fitting that
Speaker 1: the drive began with a big play by Gronk, and
Speaker 1: the biggest play proceeding to the touchdown was also to
Speaker 1: Gronk that put him right at the doorstep at the
Speaker 1: goal line. Let's hear that, Ricky shop goes Staffter Brady
Speaker 1: dropping back, lobs up, throw fork, Gronkowski left side makes
Speaker 1: the catch. Were two defenders to the two first time
Speaker 1: gonna go, They're gonna play him, He's gonna take. He's
Speaker 1: gonna tell Tokyo he's gonna set you up to Ray.
Speaker 1: Think you love up. Brady says it, and it's a
Speaker 1: strike to the big boy, his favorite tight end, the
Speaker 1: old world tight end. Want to catch during during that sequence,
Speaker 1: you know, during the game, actually, there were a couple
Speaker 1: of instances where I just thought, it's gotta be so
Speaker 1: cool to be Tom Brady. No one else has these
Speaker 1: little moments where like America the Beautiful is playing up
Speaker 1: on the screen and it was great rendition and they
Speaker 1: you know, his face pops up and the whole whole
Speaker 1: crowd just erupts with like they stay silent, silent and
Speaker 1: respect the country and then like Brady chant like they
Speaker 1: were the Patriots slanted crowd is trying to like conjure
Speaker 1: up offense because at this point it's getting a little
Speaker 1: uncomfortable for everyody watching. They did it to start that drive.
Speaker 1: They chanted Brady before even the first thing. When it
Speaker 1: came onto the field, they started chanting his name, and
Speaker 1: then they do it did it again during the drive
Speaker 1: and it was like, what a cool moment to be
Speaker 1: that guy and that that play. It was one of
Speaker 1: Gronk's all time plays. It reminded me of the drive
Speaker 1: he had against the Broncos that ultimately, you know, fell
Speaker 1: short in the two thousand fifteen AFC Championship. But you've
Speaker 1: mentioned this week kind of what does this game mean
Speaker 1: for the Patriots. They you know, there's not as much
Speaker 1: pressure because they you know, they they've been here, They've
Speaker 1: like this game means so much for Gronk. I think
Speaker 1: it means a lot for the Patriots period, like any
Speaker 1: championship does. But to have that moment, who I think
Speaker 1: is the greatest tight end of all time, doesn't matter
Speaker 1: if he retires right now, to make one of those
Speaker 1: catches where ultimately, yeah, they saw something before the step,
Speaker 1: but there were three guys in coverage by the end
Speaker 1: of that play. For him to be as physical and
Speaker 1: how he plays, but also to be able to adjust
Speaker 1: to ball passes in the air so dexterous lee like
Speaker 1: in his hands are as good as anyone in the league,
Speaker 1: and to go after that ball when there's three defensive
Speaker 1: backs around him. No one else is doing that, and
Speaker 1: he's done that in so many big spots, and it
Speaker 1: put the exclamation point on the greatest career I think
Speaker 1: any tight ends have in terms of dominance. And it
Speaker 1: also gives him three titles, and so I think that's
Speaker 1: kind of important because to me, there's two errors of
Speaker 1: the Patriots. There's the first one, which is defense, and
Speaker 1: then the second era, which is Gronk, and I think
Speaker 1: he's the key part of the second one other than
Speaker 1: bring and to go back to the coaching on New England.
Speaker 1: Gronk talked after the game about the fact that they
Speaker 1: dialed up that play not too much. A few plays
Speaker 1: earlier they tried it and Brady just didn't see him.
Speaker 1: And McDaniels knew that and said, this time around, take
Speaker 1: a look for him and you're gonna get him. And
Speaker 1: it was a great play. It was five plays, sixty yards.
Speaker 1: Gronk had the two longest gainers or was it Edelman
Speaker 1: first down catching there? So of course Edelman was involved
Speaker 1: with it. And uh, it was a dry that summed
Speaker 1: up the whole Patriots playoffs because the man who ends
Speaker 1: it is the guy that set the postseason record with
Speaker 1: his sixth score of the playoffs. From the eye, Michelle,
Speaker 1: the tailback behind Dublin Brady Utter Shutter gives the Michelle
Speaker 1: runs look touched up trash Michelle for six do not love.
Speaker 1: I told you it could be three strange quarters if
Speaker 1: we haven't seen this quarterback playing along. But it's fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: It's funny time for the greatest God ever sewed it up.
Speaker 1: You know. Can I say one thing when we're here?
Speaker 1: And I had a very open mind to this, and
Speaker 1: I was I can't help sometimes then, but to root
Speaker 1: for Tom Brady when you're here in the moment. I
Speaker 1: don't know what it is, but you locked them up
Speaker 1: to there is that, But thank you, west' I was
Speaker 1: not gonna. I was not gonna. We'll bring it up eventually,
Speaker 1: I'm sure. Well, there are a lot of sad Rams fans,
Speaker 1: one of them that lives with you, West, so that's
Speaker 1: not gonna be easy. But the minute I hear Zolok's voice,
Speaker 1: I start to feel irritated. That kind of brings it
Speaker 1: back to where it needs to be, because I know
Speaker 1: what you're saying to Like, even I feel kind of
Speaker 1: lucky too to be at these games, because Brady fifty
Speaker 1: years from now is going to be known as like
Speaker 1: a Johnny Unitis level all time great and you were
Speaker 1: there for all of it, you know, at least the
Speaker 1: second part the Gronk era, as Greg puts it. So
Speaker 1: I get that, and I think, you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: incredible to me that he is never gonna have the
Speaker 1: game in the Super Bowl and he's been and what
Speaker 1: how many of them are nine He's never just gonna
Speaker 1: have one where he just stinks and he has a
Speaker 1: bad game and it's just well, it wasn't his year,
Speaker 1: even in this game, which is a weird game where
Speaker 1: he can never get things going. He was going to
Speaker 1: have the drive in him, and like I said, it
Speaker 1: felt inevitable, and he delivered it. And that's when I
Speaker 1: knew it was ten three, seven minutes to play. Then
Speaker 1: the pressure goes back to the kid on the other side,
Speaker 1: and you're thinking yourself, does he have something big in him?
Speaker 1: And it didn't feel like it was in the car.
Speaker 1: It didn't. It didn't. I agree with you. I I
Speaker 1: didn't think the game was over, but it was uncanny
Speaker 1: like when he needed that, he did it at the
Speaker 1: moment they tied the game. Much like in the first
Speaker 1: Super Bowl against the Rams. He he didn't do much
Speaker 1: that game, but he did it in the moment that
Speaker 1: they tied the game. I mean, he's six and three
Speaker 1: or the team is six and three in Super Bowls
Speaker 1: during the Brady era, but in two of them he
Speaker 1: had game winning drives and then and then they lost,
Speaker 1: the defense lost the game. I mean, it's unreal how
Speaker 1: often he delivered in those spots. So the Rams take
Speaker 1: over after a touchback. Uh, like I said, seven minutes
Speaker 1: played down ten three, and they start moving the ball,
Speaker 1: and uh enough, I'm sure Greg where your pea scale
Speaker 1: then is it's got to be eight and a half
Speaker 1: When they cross over midfield, it felt like they were
Speaker 1: heating up meatal mean just a little. It was back
Speaker 1: to like six at that point. It was eight or
Speaker 1: nine for most of the game. But that touchdown was
Speaker 1: such a relief. It was like, you know, it was
Speaker 1: like next to Greg the entire game. Yes, you said
Speaker 1: it was the most nervous you've ever seen him? Where
Speaker 1: was he after that score? All of these claims by
Speaker 1: Greg about the peace scale, you have to put like
Speaker 1: a Greg filter on it because he claims never to
Speaker 1: be like nervous about it. Nothing matters when he he
Speaker 1: was like at a six at one point, No, he was.
Speaker 1: He never dropped a lot of nine all through the game.
Speaker 1: He's very quiet. I did catch I was right next
Speaker 1: to it. He was chattering. He had running comment with
Speaker 1: himself going on the whole game. Because that's how nervous
Speaker 1: talking to you. I was trying to talk to you, hey,
Speaker 1: independent observer mj Acosta, great reporter for NFL Network, sitting
Speaker 1: between Mark and I said, hey, you're you're not because
Speaker 1: I was joking to her about how a pats Van
Speaker 1: and I was nervous. She's like, you're not as nervous
Speaker 1: as Mark. You don't seem as nervous as Mark. So hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: she thought you were. She thought you were a big
Speaker 1: Pats fan. And we're feeling the field. They eat always
Speaker 1: look a litvous. It must have been that it was
Speaker 1: a lock. I think that's when I was listening to
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Speaker 1: So Yes, despite the Rams offense and and the boy
Speaker 1: genius Sean McVeigh struggling so much, they started moving the ball.
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks for nineteen yards uh, and then they get Goff,
Speaker 1: the Josh Reynolds for eleven. Then he hits Robert Woods
Speaker 1: for seventeen, and they're cooking and then it falls apart
Speaker 1: first and ten. At the twenty seven. I didn't realize
Speaker 1: they got that far down. Jared Goff drops back. He's
Speaker 1: got Brandon Cook's Stephan Gilmore in coverage. Cooks has a
Speaker 1: step and can't hold onto the ball, and you could
Speaker 1: and Cook's had a really nice game statistically. There was
Speaker 1: some garbage yardage at the end, but he made some
Speaker 1: plays in that game. But that is a catch in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl that you're remembered by if you could
Speaker 1: pull it in. Me and my dad were watching some
Speaker 1: games on YouTube old Super Bowls on YouTube this weekend.
Speaker 1: One of the games we checked out was the Steelers
Speaker 1: Cardinals game where Santonio Holmes and Larry Fitzgerald put on
Speaker 1: one of the more epic one on one showdowns when
Speaker 1: they were never on the field together that you'll ever
Speaker 1: see in this game. That's how you're remembered forever when
Speaker 1: you make catches. Cooks couldn't do it. And then on
Speaker 1: the very next play, Jared Goff, who felt pressure all game,
Speaker 1: got pressure one more time at a blitz and made
Speaker 1: the worst throw of his life free to the left.
Speaker 1: Text with that Parmont throws the right, Gilmore's there ain't
Speaker 1: sept it at the car. Harmon first to pick and
Speaker 1: Gilmore comes up with it his second of the postseasons.
Speaker 1: What a call by Brian Flora's pressure on number sixteen.
Speaker 1: You know the kid was going to crack and he
Speaker 1: did there and want to play by Gilmore, Let's go.
Speaker 1: It was another one of these plays where when from
Speaker 1: where we were sitting, it was an awful throw and
Speaker 1: you saw the result before it even left his hands.
Speaker 1: I just think he the Patriots put so much pressure
Speaker 1: on him from wire to wire. There was never a
Speaker 1: moment where Goff felt like he was in the flow
Speaker 1: of the game or had any confidence at all, And
Speaker 1: I think that does tie back to an inability to
Speaker 1: adjust between coach and quarterback and the rest of the
Speaker 1: offense reminded me a lot of of the first half
Speaker 1: of their game against the Saint You know, by the
Speaker 1: end of the game, I was surprised how many people
Speaker 1: thought golf outplayed Breeze because for an entire half he
Speaker 1: looked lost in that game. And it happened for the
Speaker 1: like four quarters in this game. You can't uh to me,
Speaker 1: that would leave a bad aftertaste in my mouth as
Speaker 1: a Rams fan. Jared golf Like did not play well
Speaker 1: from November on. Well, he didn't adjust, He didn't he
Speaker 1: never had a feel of what was gonna happen. And
Speaker 1: in the whole game, I was waiting for a defensive
Speaker 1: turn I was waiting for a turnover, a touchdown because
Speaker 1: you felt like it was gonna come, like, hey, if
Speaker 1: Brady is not gonna do it, the the defense is
Speaker 1: gonna make the big play. Brady ended up getting in
Speaker 1: the end zone first, but they finally did it here.
Speaker 1: I mean, he dropped back thirty eight times. I guess
Speaker 1: more if you include the sack fourteen hurries, five QB hits,
Speaker 1: four sacks. And the thing I loved is the Patriots
Speaker 1: stayed aggressive the whole time. They didn't try to change
Speaker 1: it up, you know, they they kept coming after him,
Speaker 1: even in that drive where they were starting to make
Speaker 1: some hay that they kept putting pressure on him, expecting
Speaker 1: him to make a mistake. And Stephan Gilmore, who had
Speaker 1: an all Pro season fitting Lee, is the guy that
Speaker 1: did it. And yes, Danny, I enjoyed that Brandon Cooks
Speaker 1: came up a little small in this game. I don't
Speaker 1: care about this. You gotta let that go, dude. He
Speaker 1: seems like a nice guy and he's been a really
Speaker 1: productive pro and been on our show. Not there was
Speaker 1: some real hitting early in that game, and he he
Speaker 1: was not getting the yak. He was kinda he was
Speaker 1: staying away from those hits. A See, I don't care
Speaker 1: if they won the Super Bowl. He should still be
Speaker 1: on this team. I don't think it was a great
Speaker 1: move to trade him, and you you, why don't you
Speaker 1: just take I don't understand why. I mean, Brandon Cooks
Speaker 1: has to be taking heat from me here. You have
Speaker 1: everything else you could ever want in this world's fair.
Speaker 1: It's fair. You want to take him down with you? Um?
Speaker 1: All right? So that was the killer because now it's
Speaker 1: four minutes to go, and the Rams defense west which two.
Speaker 1: They weren't on the field as much in the second half,
Speaker 1: so it didn't become like a Super Bowl fifty one
Speaker 1: Falcon situation where that he was just gassed. But they
Speaker 1: let down because the Pats tried to run out the clock.
Speaker 1: They were looking to get maybe ten yards or eleven
Speaker 1: yards and three plays, and they started gashing them with
Speaker 1: runs and that was now the Rams are on the ropes.
Speaker 1: I do think the Rams defense is going to be
Speaker 1: overlooked for how well they played in this game, with
Speaker 1: the exception of not being able to cover cover Julian
Speaker 1: Edelman and not being able to stop the Patriots clock
Speaker 1: piling drive late the runs that they had, it was
Speaker 1: a It was an incredible game by their defense. Can
Speaker 1: we can we say that Aaron Donald came up a
Speaker 1: little small in this game. He had one solo tackle,
Speaker 1: one QB hit. We talked about it all week that
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald needed to be for a wrecking ball in
Speaker 1: this game. Todd Gurley had to be Todd Gurley. Neither
Speaker 1: of those things happen. It was a quiet game by Donald,
Speaker 1: but he could have been quiet. They needed it. Didn't
Speaker 1: come through. Well, I don't felt like he was getting pressured. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he he made a couple of plays, But I guess
Speaker 1: I don't agree with that because ultimately they the Patriots
Speaker 1: had eleven drives and they scored thirteen points. So I
Speaker 1: don't care. Like, however, you added that all up, that
Speaker 1: was maybe the best defensive performance by the Rams all season,
Speaker 1: and one of the best defensive performances against the Patriots
Speaker 1: all season, and certainly in a Super Bowl. So it's
Speaker 1: like it wasn't Donald, but what you know, what more
Speaker 1: could he even ask this? This needed to be an
Speaker 1: offensive team, and the offense completely blew it. And I
Speaker 1: think they got a championship level defense as a group
Speaker 1: from Wade Phillips. If you knew, hey, we are going
Speaker 1: to keep Tom brading the Patriots to thirteen points. All
Speaker 1: your job is, Jared Golf and friends, is to score
Speaker 1: fourteen points. You would think you would be the Rams fans,
Speaker 1: even if there's only fifty of them here, you would
Speaker 1: roll in dancing. You got it. To Dan's point, though,
Speaker 1: they started the game kind of running right at Donald
Speaker 1: and that's not what they did in this last drive.
Speaker 1: But if you're gonna fault the Rams defense for anything.
Speaker 1: They knew the Patriots were gonna run on second down
Speaker 1: there it's on the five yard line. I'm I'm uttering,
Speaker 1: stay aggressive, keep throwing the ball, you know, don't just
Speaker 1: like run into a line and punch it over and
Speaker 1: then when you claim to be at a six on
Speaker 1: your right, you know. And I'm an idiot because they
Speaker 1: did keep running, just like they have been really at
Speaker 1: the end of the season. They were able to run
Speaker 1: on so many teams, the Chiefs, Chargers, Rams, you know,
Speaker 1: Bill's Jets. When the other team knew it was coming.
Speaker 1: It was over Trent Brown, it was over Marcus Cannon,
Speaker 1: and like that was kind of theme. Well, I was
Speaker 1: sitting when so sitting near Greg, Like there was a
Speaker 1: moment when Sony Michelle blasted for the the initial first
Speaker 1: down on that game ceiling. I just I just was
Speaker 1: like a game over, an erotic mode. Now. I looked
Speaker 1: over and I just saw Mark going like, you know,
Speaker 1: just like doing the slash sign, and I was just like,
Speaker 1: you know what, buddy, I agree with you. Way to
Speaker 1: be ones. But it was pat well, I mean four
Speaker 1: and one slightly obnoxious with the Patriots love Now fourth
Speaker 1: and one inches literally maybe an inch and a half
Speaker 1: from the twenty four yard line with a minute twelve ago,
Speaker 1: still just a seven point game, one score game, and
Speaker 1: Belichick has a decision to make. Is he gonna sneak
Speaker 1: it against Aarren Donald and company or a hand the
Speaker 1: ball off or call pass play or does he bring
Speaker 1: out the kicker. Stephen Gastowski used, you know, had some
Speaker 1: issues in the Super Bowl the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: They decided to go with the kick. If he makes it,
Speaker 1: the game's over. If he misses it, the Rams have
Speaker 1: a shot. And this is what happened. Turn short card,
Speaker 1: don't in atten three Patriots left as the hand receives
Speaker 1: the step swinging the right leg, drivel of the uplights
Speaker 1: and the kick is good too. Possession game. No chip shot, sir,
Speaker 1: that is no chip shot. Forty one is close to
Speaker 1: the chip shot, but whatever, he's stuck it inside the
Speaker 1: left upright. That wast three and that was the final
Speaker 1: margin in this game. The Patriots title number six. You
Speaker 1: can't even give a kick or some love. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's your guy. That's a big moment. This is a
Speaker 1: kicker who he's now been in as many Super Bowls
Speaker 1: as anyone in Super Bowl history except for Tom Brady. No,
Speaker 1: but like it, Iam Venitary, you don't remember, you know,
Speaker 1: ultimately the ones they missed you Vinitary miss him in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl too, but he deserves credit for getting you,
Speaker 1: sir or no, Adam, that's fair, that's fair. And it was,
Speaker 1: by the way, very awkward. They had an interview in
Speaker 1: with Adam Vinitary in the middle of the third quarter,
Speaker 1: I believe, or even fourth quarter, like Scott Hansen, you know,
Speaker 1: while Tom Brady is trying to like call plays in
Speaker 1: the huddle during a commercial break, Scott Hanson is asking
Speaker 1: Adam Vinitary about like how great is it that you
Speaker 1: started this dynasty? And I'm thinking, like, is anyone on
Speaker 1: the Patriots silent? And Tom Brady going like fi nuts
Speaker 1: that this is happening like in the middle of the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter of a Super Bowl. This also came minutes
Speaker 1: after they had Trey Burton on the field. The Patriots
Speaker 1: fans through the Philly Special as if that's going to
Speaker 1: be a crowd pleasing moment. Here. I kept on waiting
Speaker 1: because the why there's one issue with this beautiful stadium
Speaker 1: and again Jets and Giants start over take the l
Speaker 1: and get to work. But the one problem I did
Speaker 1: have as the WiFi not great, and I was wondering
Speaker 1: if the Scott Hanson WiFi would quit out at some
Speaker 1: point and he'd stutter over a word or a smile,
Speaker 1: would like drift away for a moment, But no, it was.
Speaker 1: It was a typical classic in the house Super Bowl
Speaker 1: performance from Hanson, unshakable, almost in human. Great job, Scott.
Speaker 1: Dan's voice is so close to not performing and it's like, I,
Speaker 1: I really am starting to worry, but you'll not see
Speaker 1: me for the next ward of five days or weeks.
Speaker 1: It's like you're like the new like Pakstani felts, like
Speaker 1: if the Patriots win the Super Bowl, you don't see
Speaker 1: Dan for six weeks. Um final thoughts on the game, Greg,
Speaker 1: Oh No, actually, Erica, Greg, we've heard enough from me, Erica.
Speaker 1: We'd love to hear from you this time last year.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it was something I was happy to
Speaker 1: see because I don't like to see you upset, But
Speaker 1: you were laying on the concourse floor sobbing over the
Speaker 1: Eagles victory. Uh. This whole hum vaguely boring, least entertaining
Speaker 1: super Bowl many years how are you feeling after? I
Speaker 1: feel like a million bucks. I don't really have a
Speaker 1: voice left. Um. During the national anthem, they zoomed in
Speaker 1: on Golf and he had his hand on his heart
Speaker 1: and he was tapping his fingers on his heart. He
Speaker 1: looked there. I was sitting up there. I was sitting
Speaker 1: up there looking at and I go look at his handshake,
Speaker 1: look at his handshake, and were I was so excited.
Speaker 1: And then I'm reading on the board that we lost
Speaker 1: the coin toss, the last the five times that we've
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl and the two that we won
Speaker 1: we lost. And then when we lost the coin to
Speaker 1: are we like got the kickoff? I literally was at
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. We've freaking one. We're in where it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. We were going to lose again. And it
Speaker 1: was when I was watching golf sweating it out and
Speaker 1: it felt great. What was the to take me through
Speaker 1: the end of the game. What happened after the end
Speaker 1: of the game, towards the end and then the end
Speaker 1: when he when he made when he made that field
Speaker 1: goal and it was a two, It was a too
Speaker 1: sort of you know conversion. Um too. Yeah, it's been along,
Speaker 1: it's been it's been a terrible and when he made that,
Speaker 1: and I knew it was a two score, you know,
Speaker 1: possession deal, two game, tamp whatever, and it was whatever
Speaker 1: it was. I knew that they were going to come
Speaker 1: up short, and I knew it when he hit that.
Speaker 1: We were celebrating weird that I have, like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I was screaming. I knew, I knew. Did you cry?
Speaker 1: Did you cry? I did cry? How do you celebrate
Speaker 1: tonight when this is over? Well, I'm here, yes, podcast.
Speaker 1: Did you embarrass the NFL in any way with your interactions? Nope,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I wore my sweatshirt and I'm wearing an
Speaker 1: NFL T shirt, but under it, I have a Tom
Speaker 1: Brady T shirt on. But I didn't take it off.
Speaker 1: I didn't take my shirt off. Well, that's good. Their
Speaker 1: shirt off, Adam Levine, I did. I saw that. You know,
Speaker 1: we don't. We'd talked about performance enhancing drugs. Yeah, and uh,
Speaker 1: maybe that's why they canceled the press conference. Yeah. Really,
Speaker 1: he looked like he might have been you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: cycle little bit he worked out. No, No No, he's like
Speaker 1: a big yoga guy. You don't get a body like
Speaker 1: that from yoga. He's never been that thing, and then
Speaker 1: we had two nipples out too, and it's like we've
Speaker 1: got I guess you'd come a long license, Janet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but no one was really freaking out, were they. I
Speaker 1: mean I wasn't really. I thought it was fine. It
Speaker 1: was good, It's great. The bar was so low that
Speaker 1: it was easy. Nothing could have I was. I was
Speaker 1: literally like in in tears. Last year seeing Justin, it
Speaker 1: was like I was so happy for him that he
Speaker 1: got that, you know again that this year, I was
Speaker 1: just like chilling. You know, I want to quate that
Speaker 1: performance with Jared Goffs. Yeah, Erica, as much as I
Speaker 1: hate the Patriots, I do thank you. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not so happy. I don't really care. I have
Speaker 1: to sit far away for me because he didn't want
Speaker 1: the risk of me being I do that for your
Speaker 1: benefit as well. You don't want to be but against
Speaker 1: your team. I mean I would. I'm sure I would
Speaker 1: feel the same and if the situation, Oh yeah, that
Speaker 1: reminds me. Your buddy Matt, who's a Jets fan that
Speaker 1: we got drinks with earlier this week, you made a
Speaker 1: comment that was so telling, such a loud reveal magnifico
Speaker 1: that Matt is one of your closest friends. You've known
Speaker 1: me for a long time. You know how much I
Speaker 1: care about the Jets. You said you would you would
Speaker 1: be totally cool. In fact, you would love for the
Speaker 1: Jets not to go to one Super Bowl fifty years. Well,
Speaker 1: I said, I also said, if they lose this one,
Speaker 1: I said, it's up to the Patriots six years and
Speaker 1: win six if I Dad, By the way, I can't
Speaker 1: get one in the next fifty years after me over
Speaker 1: thirty eight already. But you were against the Patriots in
Speaker 1: every single one. You and I talked to your dad.
Speaker 1: It's a little evil, Greg, just there's a little, tiny,
Speaker 1: little tiny drip drop of evil and that's the biggest rival.
Speaker 1: And this is we shouldn't be talking about the Patriots. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I just think that's like bs because if the
Speaker 1: Browns were in, I would be full fledged, like killing
Speaker 1: myself for the Browns. Or if the Jets were in,
Speaker 1: I would literally be giving my entire soul to have
Speaker 1: them win for you if they got here. So we
Speaker 1: just you're a better person than Greg, Is that what
Speaker 1: we just Well obviously anyway, uh, final thoughts, I'd love
Speaker 1: to hear. Your final thought was if you have them
Speaker 1: also very late. Yes, I think seeing the greatest of
Speaker 1: all time throwing to the greatest of all time at
Speaker 1: a different position on the game winning drives it saved
Speaker 1: the game for me, like it finally gave me something
Speaker 1: to appreciate from the game. And seeing Tom Brady and
Speaker 1: Gronk making magic maybe for the final time. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that would be my final thought that certainly, and
Speaker 1: social media will say the same thing, and people will
Speaker 1: write about this tomorrow that this was a quote unquote
Speaker 1: boring super Bowl, And I it might have been, especially
Speaker 1: if you're on your couch at home, but in the
Speaker 1: building there was a lot of tension. Uh. It was
Speaker 1: a close game until the very end, in terms of
Speaker 1: a one possession game until the very end. So it
Speaker 1: wasn't to me one of those laughers, especially when we're
Speaker 1: growing up in the eighties and early nineties. I mean,
Speaker 1: people that are younger don't realize what a bad Super
Speaker 1: Bowl is. So they called this one a bad one. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: We're talking Jerry Rice having like six touchdowns at the
Speaker 1: end of the second quarter back in eight, nine and
Speaker 1: seven and thirty three. I mean that used to be
Speaker 1: the norm. So yes, this is probably the worst in
Speaker 1: terms of entertainment value Patriots super Bowl in the Brady era,
Speaker 1: but it still wasn't a terrible I would say one
Speaker 1: thing my takeaway would be Rams for a did that
Speaker 1: we we all were together when the Seahawks detonated the Broncos,
Speaker 1: and you wondered, You know, they had an aging Peyton
Speaker 1: Manning and they had a lot of talent, but would
Speaker 1: they ever get back? And I didn't know if they would.
Speaker 1: Two years later the Broncos went and a lot of
Speaker 1: people thought they would not beat the Panthers, and they
Speaker 1: pulled it off. And just that this Rams story is
Speaker 1: not over. It's gonna be a really it's gonna be
Speaker 1: an interesting offseason because last offseason the Rams were gushed
Speaker 1: over for months and months. Today they were exposed. But
Speaker 1: but there's a lot more progress and reason for hope
Speaker 1: in the Rams than reason to tear him apart and
Speaker 1: think it's over. I believe that was the final score.
Speaker 1: It felt like anything less than the Super Bowl would
Speaker 1: be a disappointment. You made the super Bowl, but it's
Speaker 1: crushing because you have older guys the roster. You can't
Speaker 1: keep it together for long, but they'll they'll have another chance.
Speaker 1: They're not They're not done. No, I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: think they're done. My my takeaway is just Bill Belichick, Like,
Speaker 1: what an incredible thing that he's built, that he's achieved,
Speaker 1: that will be told as long as there is in NFL.
Speaker 1: I mean, Vince Lombardi has got his name on the trophy.
Speaker 1: He's not taking that, but there's never been a figure
Speaker 1: in NFL history that's done anything like what Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: has done since Vince Lombardi. And this is a couple
Speaker 1: of super Bowls now that that really weren't about Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: that we're about the team. That was about special teams
Speaker 1: and linebackers and punting and the running game and the
Speaker 1: offensive line adjusting late in the season and finding your
Speaker 1: identity and kind of taking all these veterans and getting
Speaker 1: them going at the right time. And he's my favorite
Speaker 1: sports figure in any sport. And it to me this
Speaker 1: was such just a crowning Belichick moment because you know,
Speaker 1: what's hey, what's the difference between six and like five
Speaker 1: and six? I think it is a difference because this
Speaker 1: was improbable. Brady's forty one years old. You know, they've
Speaker 1: three out of five a decade plus after they won
Speaker 1: three out of four. That's just it's just kind of insane.
Speaker 1: And if gronk Um, you know, is retiring on such
Speaker 1: a high note as the greatest of all time, that's
Speaker 1: kind of the cherry on the Sunday, just like the
Speaker 1: Rainmaker retiring on a high note for him final late.
Speaker 1: He got all that money back. You stuck with the
Speaker 1: Rainmaker and you put all your tips in the table,
Speaker 1: and uh, now you're going to Hawaii and an island forever?
Speaker 1: Is that the first Is it true that that's the
Speaker 1: first time that the Rainmaker has predicted a game? Right?
Speaker 1: All years? We got two out of the first three,
Speaker 1: and then it was a show. Everything is just Greg
Speaker 1: and his friends with the Patriots having a great life
Speaker 1: and we're here to entertain him. Well that's it. Good job, guys,
Speaker 1: great season. Nice job on the Woks, Mark Mark. That's
Speaker 1: two years of row. You we tied last year, so
Speaker 1: you're you're starting a little dynasty yourself. I think the
Speaker 1: Rainmakers sitting right over here outsine Burn. All right, we
Speaker 1: will be back, am Burn. We'll be back Thursday, Uh
Speaker 1: with another show. We'll do some more super Bowl talk,
Speaker 1: but also spinning forward. Now is it goes on and
Speaker 1: on mark the season is not over for us? Yeah,
Speaker 1: nice season, but it continues on week after week, three
Speaker 1: shows a week from now until you know the end
Speaker 1: of days. So we're going to or have we done
Speaker 1: the show long enough where we should just start just
Speaker 1: suddenly mailing it in a little bit like the start
Speaker 1: to just like like we're doing all these shows, maybe
Speaker 1: like a little less grind aspect here. Next we could
Speaker 1: be asleep. We do just do one show and then
Speaker 1: it and then it comes back. There was some mailing
Speaker 1: in this week when we were on the stage of
Speaker 1: Piccadilly at not Piccadilly at Centennial Park the best that
Speaker 1: there was some mailing in at certain points this week.
Speaker 1: For sure, I think we would need next time we
Speaker 1: do something like that, um to put a little more
Speaker 1: pre thought into how it's going to operate, because we
Speaker 1: may be caught a little but by surprise. But this
Speaker 1: is our first show since the Life Show. I know
Speaker 1: that everyone listened to it, but that that was the
Speaker 1: opposite of that, and we thank everyone was another great
Speaker 1: was there for making that like an unbelievable experience that
Speaker 1: we're gonna keep doing the NFL season which is over.
Speaker 1: The two thousand eighteen season started with our trip to
Speaker 1: London which led into the kickoff game. Of course, the
Speaker 1: week three Browns went over the Jets right. Seven wins
Speaker 1: and another losing season from Cleveland, um, and it ended
Speaker 1: with another super Bowl win and another trip to the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl for our show. So a great successful season.
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening, and uh we will see you
Speaker 1: on Thursday. This is Dan Hansons signing off four Quiet Storm,
Speaker 1: the Mailman, the old Boss, Ricky Hollywood behind the glass,
Speaker 1: sign it off this confetti everywhere folks. Another season in
Speaker 1: the books Till Thursday. M