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Speaker 1: yard Dash. Welcome to another edition of the Around the
Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Janzas, and I am
Speaker 1: joined in a stadium filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling,
Speaker 1: and Greg Rosenthal. What is up? Boys? Hey? Dan? Day
Speaker 1: two of the press conferences here Indianapolis at the two
Speaker 1: thousand eighteen NFL Scouting two thousand nineteen NFL Scouting Combine.
Speaker 1: We are here at Lucas Oil Stadium, one of the
Speaker 1: finest facilities in this country to play professional football. In
Speaker 1: my humble opinion, Mark, Yeah, your name, Day two has
Speaker 1: a way of feeling like Day twenty two. I think
Speaker 1: that you're a constant praise of this stadium. Has something
Speaker 1: to do with the fact that the only time we've
Speaker 1: ever watched actual football in here, one game, the total
Speaker 1: utter demise of the Patriots. There has to be some
Speaker 1: psychlist I'm any. Yeah. The most page told me something
Speaker 1: in the airport today in the elevator. To his mind,
Speaker 1: Great believes that is the worst Patriots loss of his lifetime.
Speaker 1: Not eighteen and one. No, I think that one was word.
Speaker 1: I've said this on the podcast before, because it was
Speaker 1: the second time around, Brady wasn't playing well. You thought
Speaker 1: they would never get another chance again, and it was
Speaker 1: the Giants beating them a second time, so it was
Speaker 1: even worse, and he just thought it was over. Greg
Speaker 1: also told me that he's still smug about this year's
Speaker 1: super Bowl. Well, well that's this is separate. But you were,
Speaker 1: you memorably, at least in my mind, told me I've
Speaker 1: never seen more smug after a super Bowl than this,
Speaker 1: And he was right, at least in terms of and
Speaker 1: I and now weeks later agree like I, no super
Speaker 1: Bowl win has ever made me have I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't want to see them to start. Let's just keep
Speaker 1: keep them as the champions. Let's not even move on
Speaker 1: after bathing this, Ricky, Right, come on, after we finished
Speaker 1: recording the show, we're all gonna go find the elevator,
Speaker 1: uh door where Giselle said Tom ken't throw the ball
Speaker 1: in catch it as well. That's what this all sounds like.
Speaker 1: Nailed it all right, Big show, Big their Friday show,
Speaker 1: early Friday show. We're gonna get a lot of more
Speaker 1: press conference reactions. Uh, this was the second day coaches
Speaker 1: and GM's not as many as on Wednesday, so not
Speaker 1: as much news. But you know, the NFL calendar has
Speaker 1: a way, Uh, the NFL cycle has a way of
Speaker 1: dropping a bomb when you want one. We could We're like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're missing maybe a hammer dropper to start today's show.
Speaker 1: And then what happens Jason Witten ESPN analyst or he
Speaker 1: was because he's out of the booth Monday night football,
Speaker 1: that's over. No more Jason Witten, no more. He's out. RUSS.
Speaker 1: You could listen to you can watch NFL games on
Speaker 1: Monday night with the volume up again because Witten is
Speaker 1: out of the booth. Where is he going? Well, you
Speaker 1: know it, he's back on the Dallas Cowboys after a
Speaker 1: one year hiatus. As it turns out, he's gonna return
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys for a sixteenth season. Uh. This was
Speaker 1: genuinely marked shocking news because I mean, last time we
Speaker 1: saw Jason Witten and it's pretty much done. It seemed
Speaker 1: like I took a nap during the middle of the
Speaker 1: day today and woke up. And the reason I didn't
Speaker 1: tweet a stop Mark Well no, but it's like I
Speaker 1: woke up and I start I read that Jason Witten
Speaker 1: had unretired and I thought that in my mind, I
Speaker 1: thought that Jason Garrett had retired while I fell asleep
Speaker 1: and then unretired before I woke up. But it was
Speaker 1: Jason Witten, and it is I. I kind of feel like, um,
Speaker 1: there's something much deeper happening here. We can get into
Speaker 1: that with I think the Cowboys view him as a
Speaker 1: long term asset that maybe more of a coaching asset
Speaker 1: down the road, and they're masking it and all this
Speaker 1: pretty escape from what was an unpleasant job for him.
Speaker 1: From another angle, the football gods a reasonally just look
Speaker 1: down on the entire populist that roots for the game
Speaker 1: and says we must make a course correction. This is
Speaker 1: a thankful course correction, I think, first of all for
Speaker 1: Jason Witten, but for people like Wes and myself who
Speaker 1: found those broadcasts. Um, rather than Tolbert, I will say,
Speaker 1: you might need to go a little deeper with that
Speaker 1: announcing team. It's not just him, but there's more to
Speaker 1: talk about it. You called it a pretty escape, and
Speaker 1: I had a feeling that this is like a heist.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like the perfect plan with was that
Speaker 1: the Bill Paxton movie. You gotta have a perfect plan
Speaker 1: to get out of this broadcast crew on Minnait Football,
Speaker 1: and I think it happened they I guess so, but
Speaker 1: I don't think where this is off topic. But I
Speaker 1: don't think he was ever coming back. I know they
Speaker 1: said that publicly, but that was before the last few games.
Speaker 1: And I will go to my grave believing that the
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve telecast when they were doing the Raiders game
Speaker 1: and then and then forty five minutes of the Pro Bow,
Speaker 1: which I also watched, were two of maybe the worst
Speaker 1: telecast of any American major sports and they could feel
Speaker 1: they were a one in fourteen team who the coach
Speaker 1: hadn't been fired, and they felt this pressure and it
Speaker 1: was bad. No one wants to enjoy sports like that.
Speaker 1: He seems like a nice guy, so it works out
Speaker 1: great for him and for the viewers. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it works out great for the Cowboys, though. This
Speaker 1: is a team that always is like holding onto their
Speaker 1: past and being too sentimental and not really self scouting. Well,
Speaker 1: and why are you so? Why are you paying Jason
Speaker 1: went and three and a half to five million dollars
Speaker 1: to play twenty five snaps? They say, when he had
Speaker 1: eight point nine yards per catching the last time. I mean,
Speaker 1: he couldn't move and he just sat out of year
Speaker 1: and he's thirty seven years old. That was my initial
Speaker 1: take when I first heard the news, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: it feels like the Cowboys are doing one of the
Speaker 1: great sons a big time solid. They want to get
Speaker 1: him back in the building. Maybe they have eyes on
Speaker 1: him going and joining the coaches. They maybe they just
Speaker 1: have him in the building for training camp, the summer programs,
Speaker 1: O T A s. And then he could be you know,
Speaker 1: reevaluate do I really want to play or do I
Speaker 1: just step away from the game. And I already got
Speaker 1: my my nice out out of Monday Night Ball to
Speaker 1: keep my dignity intact. But the three and a half
Speaker 1: million dollar thing is what's a little bit strange to
Speaker 1: me because now that is not going to blow up
Speaker 1: anybody's salary cap, but that is a decent amount of
Speaker 1: scratch for Yeah, the reports out that they're out there
Speaker 1: was he's playing Antonio Gates snaps and Gates was basically
Speaker 1: a nonentity on the Chargers this year. There are different
Speaker 1: ways to run a franchise, and certainly not everybody has
Speaker 1: to do with the Patriots do. But you could never
Speaker 1: see the Patriots making a move like this. In fact,
Speaker 1: you could never see any legitimate Super Bowl contender doing
Speaker 1: something like this, devoting that much of their payroll. I know,
Speaker 1: three point five to five million isn't you know what
Speaker 1: a quarterback makes. But they have a lot of guys
Speaker 1: to pay. Byron Jones, Zeke elliott A, Marii Cooper, dat
Speaker 1: to Marcus Lawrence, Dak Prescott sooner or later, Jalen Smith,
Speaker 1: I mean, and then you're just throwing away money on
Speaker 1: a tight end. They fall in love with these guys.
Speaker 1: And part of the reason they have to play to
Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence so much money is because they wouldn't give
Speaker 1: up on Randy Gregory or David Irving no matter what
Speaker 1: they did as Dallas Cowboys. They just couldn't give it up.
Speaker 1: And so now those guys are gone. Gregory suspended, Irving's
Speaker 1: gonna leave via free agency. And but it's because they're
Speaker 1: they want to hold onto their guys. And I know
Speaker 1: Witten is a totally different case. He's a classic guy
Speaker 1: and they just did you know, an hour and a
Speaker 1: half long uh you know, press conference, goodbye to him.
Speaker 1: I want my you know, time back from that. That
Speaker 1: was ridiculous. But it it just doesn't make sense to
Speaker 1: me because you're it's a pro, he's a progress I
Speaker 1: just I think this has very little to do ultimately
Speaker 1: with Jason Witten the player or Jason Witten filling a
Speaker 1: giant tight end need for the Cowboys. They had Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett in house outside of a short break, essentially for
Speaker 1: two decades, and that Jerry Jones on record saying we
Speaker 1: see people, we want to make them part of the
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones family and grow them. And they've talked. There
Speaker 1: are people out there saying that they've viewed Jason Witten
Speaker 1: as a future coach, and he has Garrett on a
Speaker 1: very short leash and maybe this is you learn under Garrett.
Speaker 1: But I think it's funny that ultimately he attempted Jason
Speaker 1: Winn to enter a field where his best friend the
Speaker 1: year before went in and absolutely blew the doors off.
Speaker 1: And it's largely big hard because of Tony Romo, his
Speaker 1: best friend, that he his performance was in such contrast
Speaker 1: than in one year he's out. You have to be quickly,
Speaker 1: you have to be a broadcast with the shines. Right away,
Speaker 1: I was thinking, uh, Dez Bryant though, how he kind
Speaker 1: of was proven right. Kesha the Paramore sent it out,
Speaker 1: you know, hashtag Garrett Garrett guys. I mean it's like
Speaker 1: Jason Witten is the ultimate Garrett guy until they bring
Speaker 1: Dez Bryant back in August. This is the one that
Speaker 1: you don't rule that out. This is the one thing, um,
Speaker 1: Greg when it hurts that you are a football junkie
Speaker 1: because you watch an hour long Cowboys press conference. You
Speaker 1: watched that Christmas Eve game between like two was at
Speaker 1: work we had on our air. You know, you watched
Speaker 1: the Draft. I mean, you watched the Pro Bowl. Who
Speaker 1: does such a thing? So you kind of had to
Speaker 1: eat some of the farts on that one. Well, I
Speaker 1: had not a lot of us. I'm glad I did
Speaker 1: it because it was something I've watched a million different
Speaker 1: telecasts and this was such a crazy train wreck and
Speaker 1: like the psychological thing that was going on, Like sometimes
Speaker 1: it's fascinating to watch just a thing in ruin and
Speaker 1: on fire, and that's what that was. So you literally
Speaker 1: just want to watch the world in that case. Yes,
Speaker 1: that like sometimes it's so bad it's good. So, yes,
Speaker 1: it was. I couldn't believe what was happening. You definitely
Speaker 1: are like a Heath Ledger joker of the podcast. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'll take that, um Antonio Brown. You heard about this
Speaker 1: guy right, he wants to get out of town in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: A lot of people are connecting dots and saying, well,
Speaker 1: the forty Niners, they got cass Based, they need a playmaker,
Speaker 1: they got a young quarterback. They really want to get going.
Speaker 1: But John Lynch, the Niners GM. He is one of
Speaker 1: the figures that was at the podium today. He had
Speaker 1: had this to say about conversations between John Lynch and
Speaker 1: the Steelers about a potential trade. We have not, Um,
Speaker 1: we have not. UM. You know, it's it's it's funny
Speaker 1: the world we live in, where you know, one tweet
Speaker 1: from a player to another turns into interests and all
Speaker 1: of that. But hey, that is the world we live in. UM.
Speaker 1: I can tell you that. Uh, like every team in
Speaker 1: this league, we think the guys that act of a
Speaker 1: football player. But we have not had talks with the Steelers.
Speaker 1: I can tell you that West, assuming he's telling the truth,
Speaker 1: which maybe he's not. Is it telling that they haven't
Speaker 1: even picked up the phone. It's very telling, and we
Speaker 1: have good reason to believe he's telling the truth, because
Speaker 1: our Steve Weiss reported immediately after this that the forty
Speaker 1: Niners just simply have no interest in Antonio Brown right now.
Speaker 1: And we have said all along that there are going
Speaker 1: to be teams, no matter how good this guy is,
Speaker 1: who who will not even consider him, who won't have
Speaker 1: him in the building, They won't bring him in, they
Speaker 1: won't trade for him. And it appears the forty Niners
Speaker 1: are one of those teams. Well, no one will admit
Speaker 1: to having called them, at least the teams that are
Speaker 1: most likely that the Browns said today John Dorsey that
Speaker 1: they hadn't called him. Well, he held up his cell
Speaker 1: phone and said, call me right, he said, he said,
Speaker 1: you got you got my number? Baby? By I hear
Speaker 1: like voices and just who's talking in this suite? Then
Speaker 1: it look over my shoulder. It's Brown's legend, Joe Thomas
Speaker 1: doing a stand up in the suite next door. Mar
Speaker 1: Can you go tell that old legend talk, you know,
Speaker 1: quite down, a little bit contraction, such terrible eyesight that
Speaker 1: I did not realize that was him until now. And
Speaker 1: now I'm trying to keep myself together through the rest
Speaker 1: of the show. He's doing a rehearsal. Joining the NFL networks,
Speaker 1: combine coverage for the offensive line over just like one,
Speaker 1: or how about the NFL network and take over the
Speaker 1: Monday night football job. Well, we talked about, well we
Speaker 1: talked about before the show. If ever something happened to you, Mark,
Speaker 1: we need to put another Browns fan in Joe Thomas,
Speaker 1: a big Browns fan. That would be a massive upgrade
Speaker 1: new left tackle on the show. Joe Thomas, where were we? Sorry? Yes,
Speaker 1: oh so wife, wife reports And it's great to see Steve.
Speaker 1: It's kind of those guys the company, absolutely great reporter,
Speaker 1: so you buy into what he's having to say. So
Speaker 1: the Niners are not in play, and you wonder if
Speaker 1: this is all tied back to Antonio brown Shenanigans, if
Speaker 1: that's what's what is scared off. It's expensive to go
Speaker 1: get them too, and it's expensive in multiple ways because
Speaker 1: you have to assess if the Niners locker room is
Speaker 1: the right place for him, if they don't feel they
Speaker 1: can't grow their team through the draft. And I think
Speaker 1: John Lynch is still committed to not mortgaging the future
Speaker 1: for one veteran when you are not one veteran away
Speaker 1: from becoming an NFC title. It's so unpredictable, but he
Speaker 1: has a two point five million dollar roster bonus in
Speaker 1: March seventeenth. There's some thought that teams will just wait
Speaker 1: until after that, like in in in general that the
Speaker 1: time right before the NFL Draft is the most likely
Speaker 1: time that he could get traded. In other presser news,
Speaker 1: Chiefs general manager Brett Veach took the podium and was
Speaker 1: asked about rap sheets report on Wednesday that Kansas City
Speaker 1: is engaged in trade talks involving uh, their former All
Speaker 1: Pro outside linebacker Justin Houston. Uh, this is what he
Speaker 1: had to say. Obviously, I seen it myself out there. Listen,
Speaker 1: Justin Houston is a great player, and our deal is
Speaker 1: to acquire and maintain as many great players as you can. Uh.
Speaker 1: He goes on goes on to say that he's in
Speaker 1: communications with GM, so essentially he does not shoot it down.
Speaker 1: They're trying to move this man. They're trying to move him,
Speaker 1: and rap sheet has reported that there is legitimate interest
Speaker 1: in a trade for a guy with a cap number
Speaker 1: around fifteen million, and he's you know, maybe passed his
Speaker 1: prime a little bit. But he and d Ford last
Speaker 1: year were the only two teammates in the top ten
Speaker 1: and pressure rate. He's still getting the job solid. I mean,
Speaker 1: he stops the run, he rushes a passer. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's not quite what he was when he signed that
Speaker 1: hundred million dollar contract, but it says a lot when
Speaker 1: he's gonna get he might get to the end of
Speaker 1: that hundred million dollar contract. I love that almost never happened.
Speaker 1: I love when these guys and this has happened a
Speaker 1: couple of times during this combine, and what I feel
Speaker 1: for them because what do they say for fifteen minutes
Speaker 1: when they're just trying to not give away any information, like, oh,
Speaker 1: I've seen that report out there? Oh have you like?
Speaker 1: I mean, you honestly are generating and can calls and
Speaker 1: calling people and discussing this. This is not you're not
Speaker 1: finding this out from how about that real journal work?
Speaker 1: Well you were doing that elicited an answer that annoyed me,
Speaker 1: so thank you. Greg Mark and I were sitting down
Speaker 1: comparing notes about the exact ways and what's our bodies
Speaker 1: were breaking down, and we noticed we noticed the similarities
Speaker 1: between Greg and Brett Veach. It was like they looked
Speaker 1: at each other and it was the Spider Man name. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think that's I think that's the cruelest
Speaker 1: thing you've ever said to me. What did you look like?
Speaker 1: Brett Beach? I said it off the bat. I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, he's a little if I gotta play, If
Speaker 1: I gotta play someone in the movie, it's probably Beach.
Speaker 1: But let's face it, it's not great. What's wrong with you?
Speaker 1: Let's face it. Vach doesn't getting picked first in the
Speaker 1: basketball game. I mean his name is Brett Beach. Let's
Speaker 1: start there. What's wrong with that? It was not a
Speaker 1: guy usually is like a star athlete or I don't think,
Speaker 1: by the way, I don't think anyone's given up much
Speaker 1: for justin Houston. This is like some pick swap nonsense
Speaker 1: in the fifth to fourth round. It's like, that's that's
Speaker 1: how player players like that gets traded. Um. Other news,
Speaker 1: a lot of quarterback news at the combine. Everbody loves
Speaker 1: talking about quarterbacks. Ron Rivera of the Panthers, the head coach,
Speaker 1: uh said that the team is comfortable with Kyle Alan
Speaker 1: and Taylor Heineke backing up Cam Newton heading into nineteen
Speaker 1: Why is this notable. Cam Newton just had another shoulder
Speaker 1: surgery and all the reports Mark have been very good
Speaker 1: that Cam not. It went from right after the season ended,
Speaker 1: is this guy? Is he gonna miss the nineteen season too?
Speaker 1: Now that he might be ready for training camp and
Speaker 1: it's a great sign and the idea that the Panthers
Speaker 1: don't feel like they need to go get an established
Speaker 1: type back up a Tyrod Taylor or someone of that nature.
Speaker 1: Another good sign that Cam will be ready to roll.
Speaker 1: I mean, the best thing you can do as a
Speaker 1: coach or Jam has come here and bury a narrative
Speaker 1: that would linger for months if there was anything that
Speaker 1: went in a different direction. So when you say we're
Speaker 1: not going to pursue anyone, also, who are you going
Speaker 1: to pursue? They have believe in their backup, they're fine.
Speaker 1: It's like there's no reason Kern. That's it was. It
Speaker 1: was well, it was addressing, that's what it was. Because
Speaker 1: people think because Tepper's kind of a little there's been
Speaker 1: bread crumbs that that in the agent for Kaepernick put
Speaker 1: the Panthers out there as kind of the most likely team.
Speaker 1: So I think that was Rivera's way of saying. And
Speaker 1: he said if we had a quarterback, it'll be via
Speaker 1: the draft. We're not signing a veterans. I think he
Speaker 1: was just like kind of letting that narrative down. Likely,
Speaker 1: I guess I'll sit out there is someone that doesn't
Speaker 1: believe that any of the owners at this point has
Speaker 1: any interest in signing Colin Kaepernick. I think would including
Speaker 1: like it. But it's fine. It's fine to put that
Speaker 1: pr out there that makes you look like that next
Speaker 1: level thinking owner, but then you never do it. By
Speaker 1: the way, we uh we heard from a Panthers fan
Speaker 1: that mentioned we haven't really said them, talked about them
Speaker 1: on the podcast for like four streets. So here we
Speaker 1: are in the Panthers layer, raw raw. No, that's but
Speaker 1: there was a few other nuggets from Rivera though, and
Speaker 1: in the biggest one is that Greg Olsen said he's
Speaker 1: coming back next year, which I kind of thought he
Speaker 1: might be done. And then that was before the Jason
Speaker 1: Witten news. We know that Greg Olsen tried out for
Speaker 1: that Monday night football role. It makes you wonder would
Speaker 1: he be a candidate, And that's probably I need a
Speaker 1: break from productive veteran tight ends, right, And so it's
Speaker 1: in it. But the big takeaway for me was he's playing,
Speaker 1: and the Panthers want him back, and he's they expect
Speaker 1: him back, and they're also bringing back Matt Khalil, who
Speaker 1: signed one of the worst contracts uh in the NFL,
Speaker 1: signed by Dave Gettleman when he was still there. Now
Speaker 1: it's been too much Panthers sucking. Remember the old Jordan
Speaker 1: Gross retirement press conference? Oh yeah, oh, with the band played,
Speaker 1: wasn't it Wait until they do this one with Julius Peppers,
Speaker 1: Thomas Davis, and Ryan Khalil all walking away from the
Speaker 1: Panthers in the same year. What was it they were
Speaker 1: the acapella singers. You were really upset about that because
Speaker 1: you like, you were just like Jordan's Gross, you know,
Speaker 1: put some respect on his name, and it just seemed
Speaker 1: a little silly. Uh. Is there anything in the world
Speaker 1: that is in more constant agony than Greg Olsen's feet?
Speaker 1: So it's got to be on the top three list. Well,
Speaker 1: my ears are fine now that it wins out of
Speaker 1: the boots Marks leg that Mark was limping around the
Speaker 1: press conferences today. He's a real warrior. Then he took
Speaker 1: a three hour nap and he's you know, he's back
Speaker 1: to normal. Oh, I'm the only one that rested today
Speaker 1: during our four hour break. I was putting up that
Speaker 1: third debris. Yeah, we know because everyone in the company.
Speaker 1: What is that? Bunts of burner blowtwards? One final thought,
Speaker 1: if we're in the Panther's layer, where the Panthers layer?
Speaker 1: If the Pethers ever signed Colin Kaepernick, the previous owner
Speaker 1: once asked Cam Newton before he drafted him if he
Speaker 1: has any tattoos, and if he had tattoos, he wouldn't
Speaker 1: be the face of the franchise. That would be the
Speaker 1: ultimate one eight for an organization over ten years. Remember that.
Speaker 1: I remember, Oh my goodness, Jerry Richardson, where are you now?
Speaker 1: Let's move on the nineteen clock. That statue down, take
Speaker 1: it down, Mr Garbage off and there was a solid
Speaker 1: ten minutes on the Carolina Panthers. Yeah. Whoever was tweeting
Speaker 1: at us pipe down, Now, let's move up. It's probably
Speaker 1: like a burner account for David Eally, our boy, less
Speaker 1: need the rams GM. Nice guy. He's been successful in
Speaker 1: his post in recent seasons. He was at the podium,
Speaker 1: he talked about Todd Gurley. Obviously, Todd Gurley is continues
Speaker 1: to be a mystery man even now weeks after the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl about his usage down the stretch and whether
Speaker 1: he was healthy or not well. Uh, The GM expounded
Speaker 1: Thursday on girly situation and address the question about how
Speaker 1: the team will manage the twenty four year olds usage
Speaker 1: moving forward. Let's hear what he had to say. I
Speaker 1: think where we have to to go is to fast
Speaker 1: forward to now is with Todd He's had a lot
Speaker 1: of carry since he's coming in the league, and a
Speaker 1: lot of yards, a lot of touchdowns, things like that.
Speaker 1: So obviously senior year junior year Georgia did the a
Speaker 1: c L. So over that time there's an element of
Speaker 1: wear and tear, and I think we have to determine
Speaker 1: in probably two stages, right, Uh, are we gonna give
Speaker 1: him the amount of load that he's had in the past.
Speaker 1: Are we going to lessen that load? Two, let's say
Speaker 1: keep him fresher for the season and for seasons beyond.
Speaker 1: West your thoughts in these comments this one. West got
Speaker 1: a little sauce up on this one. Drunk, But yeah,
Speaker 1: you were interested by these comments. But first of all,
Speaker 1: I love the less neat little verbal um habit, A
Speaker 1: little tradition that he has of he always says, uh.
Speaker 1: And then you got Todd Gurley and his workload, and
Speaker 1: he's a little word down, and we're gonna have let's
Speaker 1: call it a Batman and Rob in the situation in
Speaker 1: the backfield, or let's say it's a Batman and Robin situation.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear Batman and Rob. But after
Speaker 1: you've made Todd Gurley the highest paid player in the game,
Speaker 1: that's quite a come down. That's quite a comdown that
Speaker 1: you're gonna have any he would be Batman's Yeah, one
Speaker 1: of the highest grossing movies of all time. Are you
Speaker 1: gonna have an a end up being now in your backfield?
Speaker 1: Asked my son Harry and Jack for that matter, my
Speaker 1: older son Batman is the man. So I think it's
Speaker 1: okay for Todd to be Batman and C. J. Anderson
Speaker 1: is not a bad Robin for that. Why do they
Speaker 1: signing someone and telling them the robin. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: not fitting into that Robin Outfitmanman. But I think you're
Speaker 1: right to point this out to West that both Snead
Speaker 1: and Sean McVeigh, who also spoke Thursday, kind of went
Speaker 1: out of their way to talk about this issue that
Speaker 1: they need to think about backing off of Girly's workload.
Speaker 1: So I think it is a real thing that they're worrying.
Speaker 1: They mentioned his a C L injury that he had
Speaker 1: in college that that they wanna, you know, maybe limited
Speaker 1: him to I don't know. I'm just gonna throw out
Speaker 1: at number like three D twenty five touches instead of
Speaker 1: you know, getting closer to four hundred. But a lot
Speaker 1: of it is a way to not come around and say, yes,
Speaker 1: he was not himself down the stretch and it was
Speaker 1: health related. No one inside the RAMS organization will admit
Speaker 1: that outside of people are speculating about girl's knee. This
Speaker 1: this is a ripe for a pretty good conversation. I think,
Speaker 1: really dive into this, stick in because I feel like
Speaker 1: it's been under discussed. It really has um. Moving on,
Speaker 1: you reready move on, Let's move on. Kyler Murray heard
Speaker 1: of that guy talk about some prospects two thousand, nineteen
Speaker 1: NFL scouting combine, and he's the big name, the quarterback
Speaker 1: out of Oklahoma, the reigning Heisman Trophy winner. Finally, after
Speaker 1: weeks and weeks and weeks of build up, he measured
Speaker 1: in he came in just a touch over five ten.
Speaker 1: He was over two hundred pounds. His hands were nine
Speaker 1: and a half inches, which I guess is fine. I
Speaker 1: don't know, it seems okay. And uh, and he's meeting
Speaker 1: with a ton of teams, including the Raiders, one the Cardinals,
Speaker 1: who we'll see. Um, So here we go. The Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray train is rolling on the Twitter show that we
Speaker 1: uh are around the NFL Twitter Show on Thursday. I
Speaker 1: thought it was interesting. We had our boy Lance Zerline
Speaker 1: on the show and uh, he had something interesting to
Speaker 1: say about Murray and and not Johnny Manzel, excuse me,
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield and how Baker has kind of opened the
Speaker 1: door for Kyle. Let's listen into that. How about that.
Speaker 1: You want to just play a clip? Play that clip.
Speaker 1: My grade on Kyler Murray this year is going to
Speaker 1: be higher than it was for Baker Mayfield last year.
Speaker 1: You need to know. Perspective is that Baker Mayfield opened
Speaker 1: the door for me to give Kyler Murray a higher grade.
Speaker 1: So I actually like Baker Mayfield more in the process
Speaker 1: than Kyler Murray. But I was still I was still
Speaker 1: in that six ft quarterback club coming from an Oklahoma offense.
Speaker 1: It's like the NFL is open to this now, or
Speaker 1: opening up to it happens that fast. So and I
Speaker 1: know it seems crazy, but as soon as you had
Speaker 1: that success from Baker, I thought the door opened wide
Speaker 1: open for Kyler Murray in some circles, and um it
Speaker 1: did for me. I try to keep an open mind
Speaker 1: with my process because it needs to be fluid because
Speaker 1: the league has never been more fluid than right now.
Speaker 1: There you got Lance said it. He might he doesn't
Speaker 1: have the size mark. But as we saw with Man's
Speaker 1: said it again Baker Mayfield last year, who didn't have
Speaker 1: huge hands, he wasn't the biggest guy, it didn't matter
Speaker 1: with Baker, he's a star. When it was a year
Speaker 1: ago that people were making lazy comparisons between Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: and Johnny Manziel and that he blew that away too,
Speaker 1: that it's not it's also the persona and I think
Speaker 1: that you heard more coaches this time around than any
Speaker 1: time before talking about spread offenses and quarterbacks operating almost
Speaker 1: exclusively out of the shotgun, which removes some of the
Speaker 1: height issue and all this other nonsense that you know,
Speaker 1: the NFL has a long time for a long time
Speaker 1: been a an outpost for old thinking that refused used
Speaker 1: to acknowledge the way that college football was evolving. And
Speaker 1: you can't do that anymore because as soon as one
Speaker 1: or two or three teams decide to embrace that, everyone
Speaker 1: else is catching up. And it it goes right down
Speaker 1: to the physical makeup of a quarterback. Yeah, we talk
Speaker 1: about all the time how how quickly change happens in
Speaker 1: the NFL. And I thought that was another interesting thing
Speaker 1: that Lance said that this really has changed that much
Speaker 1: the way coaches around the league think of smaller quarterbacks
Speaker 1: now that did they think if Baker Mayfield can come
Speaker 1: out of that offensive Oklahoma and be success in the NFL,
Speaker 1: it really lessens their doubts about Kyler? Gordon said this morning.
Speaker 1: Just height. He just doesn't think heights that big of
Speaker 1: a factor and that and the more you hear Gruden
Speaker 1: and they're gonna meet with him, I don't know. Don't
Speaker 1: you just think Gruden and Mike Mayack are going to
Speaker 1: just fall in love with one of these guys. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's not Murray, maybe it's Dwayne Haskins or whoever. And
Speaker 1: just like I think that, Hey, we don't plan to
Speaker 1: be up here that much, and Gruden just loves changing
Speaker 1: out like that's kind of what I've based, Like Marx
Speaker 1: talked about, you know, the Raiders trading Derek are and
Speaker 1: the reason it seems so believable because it just seems
Speaker 1: like exactly what John Gruen has done throughout his career
Speaker 1: as a coach and personnel decision maker is make that
Speaker 1: type of move. I'm with you too, Mark. I think
Speaker 1: by the time this whole process is over, Murray's the
Speaker 1: first guy that comes up on stage. I mean, I
Speaker 1: I think so too. But I think that also the trading,
Speaker 1: if it's the Raiders who want to try to get
Speaker 1: up there with a whole trade Derek Carr, it's a
Speaker 1: bad offseason to try to trade anyone. Well, it's so chucky.
Speaker 1: They're handling it better than let's say, the Cardinals, which
Speaker 1: we should talk about the Josh Rosen Instagram uh deletion story,
Speaker 1: right because this is also it's sort of it's sort
Speaker 1: of connected, you know, it's I mean, it's connected that Rosen,
Speaker 1: you know, deleted his pictures or posts on Instagram that
Speaker 1: he went much like Mark Brady, who are shadowy league
Speaker 1: figure who's really stepping up his self is Mark Brady's
Speaker 1: Instagram handle. Let's get everybody to follow him, Mark Patrick Brady,
Speaker 1: Patrick Brady, uh to us a favor. It's a free show.
Speaker 1: Everyone go follow Mark Patrick Brady on Instagram. Let's see
Speaker 1: how many people. Let's see how many followers you get.
Speaker 1: Let's check right now where new followers over the next
Speaker 1: seventy two hours. We want Mark Patrick Brady to have
Speaker 1: more followers than any of us. Let's see. So he
Speaker 1: deleted Josh Rosen, you know, deleted, uh, deleted all the
Speaker 1: posts with the Cardinals on it, much like Mark Brady
Speaker 1: is gonna delete, you know, all of his around the
Speaker 1: NFL post the second like he forces us out of
Speaker 1: the And it turns out that he actually said on
Speaker 1: Twitter that he was hacked four or five days ago,
Speaker 1: and it seems like that's when all the pictures were
Speaker 1: taken away. So it's before these recent Steve Kim comments,
Speaker 1: which is just ultra confusing. But either way, the comments
Speaker 1: the Cardinals picks were taken away. He's he's been annoyed
Speaker 1: with the Cardinals. He was an I did because I
Speaker 1: totally think he did it. Um. I think he scrubbed
Speaker 1: his profile because he's annoyed about the lack of support
Speaker 1: he's getting in the speculation around the idea that the
Speaker 1: Cardinals passive to move on, and can you imagine he
Speaker 1: if that is indeed the case and he scrubbed those
Speaker 1: Cardinals photos five days ago, what he felt about Steve
Speaker 1: Kime's comments to the world on Wednesday. It is fast
Speaker 1: becoming again this is speculation. But if that's what happened,
Speaker 1: a toxic situation with a kid who's twenty two years
Speaker 1: old that you just took and you put him on
Speaker 1: a bad team that was that team was crap last
Speaker 1: year with no support around him, and now you're gonna
Speaker 1: fall out of love with him and kind of drag
Speaker 1: him through the mud a little bit. I get why
Speaker 1: he's met now. He should have been more savvy to
Speaker 1: realize everyone tracks everything on the Graham like Mark Patrick Brady,
Speaker 1: who you can follow us two and thirty followers right now.
Speaker 1: Follow that. Let's put a couple of zeros on that.
Speaker 1: Let's go for it at Mark Patrick Brady. We don't
Speaker 1: ask you much, but we ask you for that. But anyway,
Speaker 1: he shouldn't have done that, Josh Rosen, because in this
Speaker 1: world people track those things. But I get it. I
Speaker 1: get why he's angry, But he did that because people
Speaker 1: track those things. I mean, that's the that's the whole
Speaker 1: point of it. I mean, that's the idea. Julio Jones
Speaker 1: takes off all the Atlanta Falcon stuff because he wants
Speaker 1: people to know. That's how he's sending a message, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, then I guess that he could be doing
Speaker 1: that too. We need to get him. I mean, if
Speaker 1: he if he thinks it's like some private he just
Speaker 1: needs to take the Cardinals out of his heart. He
Speaker 1: knows that people are going to see it. Right, and
Speaker 1: and as much as Yester, it's complicated. Let's say they
Speaker 1: do want to trade Josh and they had a fine spot.
Speaker 1: They have a number one overall draft pick, and Josh
Speaker 1: Rosen has plenty of value. It's not the worst thing
Speaker 1: in the world if Josh Rosen got traded, at least
Speaker 1: not for the Cardinals. Yeah, maybe let him know ahead
Speaker 1: of time if you're going to go to a press
Speaker 1: conference and say that he is just right now our
Speaker 1: and I have seen and heard, uh some people think
Speaker 1: that if Josh Rosen came out this year, he would
Speaker 1: be the number one quarterback picked in the draft. So
Speaker 1: I wonder if there was an actual trade, how deflated
Speaker 1: his value would be. I don't think he would be
Speaker 1: the number one quarterback picked by the Cardinals at number
Speaker 1: one this year. I think that's that's fair. I think
Speaker 1: he could still get a first round You absolutely get
Speaker 1: a first round pick for him. By the way, maybe
Speaker 1: he would have been though, because Steve kim is that
Speaker 1: this isn't a new GM either. It's not like it's
Speaker 1: a new regime. Came in and fell out of love
Speaker 1: with the kid, like come loved Rosen enough to take
Speaker 1: him in the first Yeah. I think a lot of
Speaker 1: this comes down to Cliff Kingsbury's offense versus who was
Speaker 1: there last year. I don't think this would be an
Speaker 1: issue if they if Steve Wilkes were still there, or
Speaker 1: anyone else. Um, all right, let's move on some legal
Speaker 1: news we have. Let's circle back to the Robert Craft situation.
Speaker 1: The Patriots owner has pleaded not guilty to solicitation charges,
Speaker 1: according to court documents released on Thursday. Um Craft's attorney
Speaker 1: filed written plea with the Palm Beach County Court on Wednesday.
Speaker 1: Craft he wants a non jury trial. Authorities, of course,
Speaker 1: they Craft entered a Florida massage parlor for sex acts
Speaker 1: on the morning of the a f C title game,
Speaker 1: which is an interesting wrinkle to this whole story, then
Speaker 1: got on a plane and attended the game in Kansas
Speaker 1: City that day. So this whole story, which is obviously
Speaker 1: a bad look for the Patriots, it's a bad look
Speaker 1: for Craft. And what could it mean. We don't know.
Speaker 1: We're gonna find out whether or not he gets prosecuted
Speaker 1: or successfully prosecuted down in Florida. We'll find out what
Speaker 1: kind of punishment he gets. There's a good chance he
Speaker 1: gets punishment by the NFL, which does not need a
Speaker 1: guilty anybody to be found guilty to still get punished
Speaker 1: in the league. Think back that Jim Ursay, who actually
Speaker 1: did get punished by the law as well, but he
Speaker 1: got suspended in a big fine. You imagine Craft could
Speaker 1: be in a line for that. But there are other factors,
Speaker 1: uh Greg as well, that Craft could be up against
Speaker 1: after what was a highly unfortunate an event in his life.
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna put an opinion on this, but
Speaker 1: I heard that there's some talk among Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: voters here at the Combine wondering about how that would
Speaker 1: impact his chances, and and that they thought it would
Speaker 1: that that it's very important to him to be to
Speaker 1: be a Hall of Famer, and that this certainly could
Speaker 1: be something that that would get in the way. That
Speaker 1: the voters are specifically instructed not to take any of
Speaker 1: that into account when they're voting, which is really frustrating.
Speaker 1: I agree West, because they seem to totally they do
Speaker 1: so they do um In other news, uh, legal news,
Speaker 1: Damarus Thomas, who we lost less all being carted off
Speaker 1: the field with a lower leg injury. Wide receiver with
Speaker 1: the Texans, his big years of course with the Broncos.
Speaker 1: He's been arrested on allegations and including vehicular assault stemming
Speaker 1: from a crash earlier this month. So just add West,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Did did he land on the top
Speaker 1: one free agents? No, he didn't make. This is a
Speaker 1: guy that already it was, had a great career in
Speaker 1: the NFL who's back was against the while on the
Speaker 1: wrong side of thirty coming off a lower body injury.
Speaker 1: Now he has legal proceedings. It is not going to
Speaker 1: be a hot free agent market. Put it that way, No,
Speaker 1: because he's not gonna be able to work out for
Speaker 1: a while with that Achilles injury and the last two
Speaker 1: teams that had him, the Broncos and Texans have no
Speaker 1: real interest in him in this time around. The Texans
Speaker 1: their G and Briant game was talking today and he
Speaker 1: really likes his wide receiver corps right now with k
Speaker 1: QT emerging and Willful are coming back from an a
Speaker 1: c L injury. I mean he got bigger problem though.
Speaker 1: That's that's a no joke. Yeah, vehicular you know that,
Speaker 1: that's a no joke. Um charge that he's facing. Um
Speaker 1: all right, that's uh, that's what's kind of happening in
Speaker 1: the news. Like yesterday was fun. Yesterday, we did some
Speaker 1: other takeaways from what we've seen in the last twenty
Speaker 1: four hours or so. Greg, want to get us going
Speaker 1: with some other takeaways? What do you want me to
Speaker 1: get it going? No, how about this. I've noticed the
Speaker 1: last couple of days with the Vikings talking, Rick Spielman,
Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer, Gary Kubiak is running the show. In that
Speaker 1: building on offense, there's a guy Kevin Stefanski is there.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember he was the offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator after they um, you know, made a change. In
Speaker 1: December last year, he interviewed for a head coach job.
Speaker 1: He has the title of offensive coordinator. It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: Kob's has come in there. He's running the show. He
Speaker 1: brought all these assistants and they're not even trying to
Speaker 1: hide it. They're bringing his entire running scheme. They're gonna
Speaker 1: look for different zone runners. And the way Zimmer was
Speaker 1: talking about Kubiak, he's just like excited to hear Kubiak
Speaker 1: talk about all the old days under Bill Walsh and
Speaker 1: all this stuff. It's just a strange situation. But they're
Speaker 1: acknowledging that Stefanski, who has the title of offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: is basically reporting to Kubiak. I can't remember a setup
Speaker 1: quite like that before, but I guess it can work.
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski, like the analytics department in Cleveland, there was
Speaker 1: a cross section of the thought. He very highly of
Speaker 1: him as the perfect mixture to make the next head coach,
Speaker 1: and maybe Mike Zimmer is not caring so much about
Speaker 1: the analytics results on Kevin Stefanski. I think Gary Kobe
Speaker 1: I guess sort of like the offensive version of Wade Phillips.
Speaker 1: He's one of the best offensive coordinators of this century.
Speaker 1: I agree, Uh, let me throw something out there. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's really been anybody's kind of speculated on that.
Speaker 1: But Doug Baldwin, the star wide out for the Seahawks,
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll veld during his presser that Baldwin underwent knee
Speaker 1: and shoulder surgeries after the season. This is a guy
Speaker 1: um that seems to be beat up a lot. He
Speaker 1: also is now on the wrong side of thirty. I
Speaker 1: checked out over the cap which is a great resource,
Speaker 1: uh for anybody that follows football, and the Seahawks are
Speaker 1: flushed with cap space seventy million. Excuse me, they have
Speaker 1: fifty one million in cap space, which puts them in
Speaker 1: the top ten. I wonder if they would be a
Speaker 1: suitor for Antonio Brown, uh Seattle. It's a situation where
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh could send him out of the conference far far away,
Speaker 1: and UH, Russell Wilson gets a big, big weapon which
Speaker 1: he could probably use, especially with Baldwin coming off some surgeries.
Speaker 1: I had the thought while I was listening to John
Speaker 1: Schneider yesterday that or Wednesday, that they are happy with
Speaker 1: their wide receiver corps that Tyl Tyler Lockett had a
Speaker 1: really good year. D J. Moore emerged as a pretty
Speaker 1: good number three, and Balbin will eventually be healthy again.
Speaker 1: You're right, you never know if he'll be the same.
Speaker 1: It was made more like kind of big time surprising
Speaker 1: trades other than the Seahawks, Percy Harvard and Brown, like
Speaker 1: they're not afraid to go make a big spell give
Speaker 1: up first round picks too. I mean it's like that
Speaker 1: that would fit the Pittsburgh side. They that would fit
Speaker 1: for Pittsburgh. I think also Seattle surprised a lot of
Speaker 1: us last year by by turning things around very quickly,
Speaker 1: but they still I feel like they nip might need
Speaker 1: more to get over the hump and be a real
Speaker 1: NFC threat. And yes, maybe it's a crowded situation there.
Speaker 1: Uh if you had an Tonio Brown but all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, I mean Russell Wilson, people kind of sleep
Speaker 1: on how awesome he was last year Statistically through let
Speaker 1: never threw a fewer passes. Uh, and yet through thirty
Speaker 1: five touchdowns barely turned the ball over. That's a fun spot.
Speaker 1: It's like Ryan Schottenheimer and Antonio Brown, what could go wrong? West?
Speaker 1: You gotta take away? Yeah, I think we've been doing
Speaker 1: this show about six years now, and for the bulk
Speaker 1: of that time, I mean for a time, I've thought
Speaker 1: very little of the Cleveland Browns and their leadership and
Speaker 1: their chances of ever getting out of the hole that
Speaker 1: they were in. And I think way differently about them
Speaker 1: now after hearing John Dorsey and Freddie Kitchens, and Dorsey
Speaker 1: was saying Thursday morning, Freddie is He's real, He's honest,
Speaker 1: he believes in family. He's a check your ego at
Speaker 1: the door kind of guy. And we kind of wondered
Speaker 1: if he just got the job because he was good
Speaker 1: with Baker Mayfield. And I think what we saw at
Speaker 1: the combine is that Freddie Kitchen got the job because
Speaker 1: he deserved to have the job, and that now he
Speaker 1: and the g M are in lockstep on on this team,
Speaker 1: on on what's going on. I think this is a
Speaker 1: team with an extremely bright future and I love everything
Speaker 1: going on with the Cleveland Browns right now. Well, in
Speaker 1: the and he took a selfie with Mark Sessler. I
Speaker 1: mean I would say I took one with him. I
Speaker 1: don't think it was it was what was it? You
Speaker 1: were walking by just him? I left Dan and Erica
Speaker 1: and the rest last night and was I had the
Speaker 1: worst sense of direction, and it took me like twenty
Speaker 1: minutes longer to walk home than it should have. And
Speaker 1: this little tavern next for a hotel was closing, and
Speaker 1: I basically looked through the door and salt Freddie Kitchens
Speaker 1: and a bunch of like burly football dudes. Hang, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm gonna walk in there, and I'm gonna get a
Speaker 1: photo of this guy. And I didn't. Then I went home.
Speaker 1: But he couldn't have been nicer. He was totally cool,
Speaker 1: and everyone around him, some guys were like, wait, who
Speaker 1: is that? They didn't even know was Freddie Kitchens. These
Speaker 1: other two dudes that were sitting there already sitting there
Speaker 1: talking to him. He looks like every man, you know.
Speaker 1: He's a big guy, Freddie. But yeah, I can see
Speaker 1: he doesn't maybe cut the figure of like a John
Speaker 1: Harbaugh type, you know. But he scored points with me
Speaker 1: and my for not being like some she she like
Speaker 1: must be seen place. He was somewhere where it was
Speaker 1: just dude, Yeah, it was that place. But I didn't
Speaker 1: want to. I mean, I don't want people running out
Speaker 1: there to try to find him the rest of the week.
Speaker 1: But not everything like his place, So not every GM
Speaker 1: would have hired him because no, he doesn't care about image.
Speaker 1: He's not extremely polished, he doesn't fit the prototype of
Speaker 1: what you're looking for. He's almost a little too real
Speaker 1: and genuine. John Dorsey, by the way, revealed he always
Speaker 1: wears that same brown sweatshirt. He has seven of them,
Speaker 1: same shirts every Yeah, he just wears one every day
Speaker 1: with like very baggy brown corduroy. So like the whole
Speaker 1: thing is I mean, it's a bit but he's sticking
Speaker 1: with it. Mark, you gotta take away, you know. I was,
Speaker 1: I think all last season, actually the last couple of years,
Speaker 1: the Rams they annoyed me and I couldn't quite figure
Speaker 1: out why, because there's a lot to like, they're in
Speaker 1: our hometown. My kids start to like the Rams. What
Speaker 1: is my issue? But it was just too easy for
Speaker 1: them and they were suddenly in the super Bowl, and
Speaker 1: to me, I just I like to see teams go
Speaker 1: through stuff. And I thought that Sean McVeigh, you know who,
Speaker 1: could have taken today's press conference in a lot of
Speaker 1: different directions. And in the past you've heard like, oh,
Speaker 1: we've got to spend you know, I think with the
Speaker 1: Falcons lost to the Patriots, there was such a narrative
Speaker 1: like the whole team psychologically trying to overcome that, and
Speaker 1: they really essentially haven't. But the Rams under McVeigh, I
Speaker 1: I thought, because I watched him on the set early
Speaker 1: on with Good Morning Football and then come over and
Speaker 1: talk to everyone else, I buy into him entirely as
Speaker 1: much as you could because I think that he's built
Speaker 1: to take the Rams back and that there he he
Speaker 1: talked about liking this much is as much as he
Speaker 1: ever ever has February into March into April and this
Speaker 1: whole process that it's not just how do we get
Speaker 1: back to six and oh, there's a lot else to do.
Speaker 1: I find them more likable now because they've been through something.
Speaker 1: They've been knocked down. Let's see if they can get
Speaker 1: back up. He said on Pro Football Talk today, He's
Speaker 1: gone from boy Wonder to boy Blunder. That's well done.
Speaker 1: That's a good way to more debate yourself. I it is.
Speaker 1: I think. Actually, I know it's been talked about, but
Speaker 1: almost not enough was made for the amount of praise,
Speaker 1: the heaping praise and earned Sean McVeigh has gotten in
Speaker 1: the last two years how bad they played in that
Speaker 1: Super Bowl offense, and obviously the quarterback was a big problem,
Speaker 1: and girlely whatever was going on with Todd Gurley is
Speaker 1: a big issue. But their inability to ever dig out
Speaker 1: and even scored three points in the year two thousand nineteen,
Speaker 1: and that was their identity. I mean it has to
Speaker 1: sting as every Super Bowl loss things like crazy, but
Speaker 1: the way they lost that just has to go to halftime,
Speaker 1: like all right, McVeigh is gonna draw something up. It
Speaker 1: just never happened, and that was some shine was taken
Speaker 1: off and he's got to bounce back from that. I
Speaker 1: I learned a little nugget, you know. Uh, I've been
Speaker 1: talking about Scangarello, the offensive coordinator of the Broncos, kind
Speaker 1: of an X factor in the two thousand nineteen No,
Speaker 1: not Scango. Everyone calls him Skanks. That's the truth. They're
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, that's the nugget. I was just like
Speaker 1: they were, Oh I was talking about it. He's like, oh, yes,
Speaker 1: you know Skanks did or no, it was that it
Speaker 1: was John Lynch. There's like, Skanks did a great job
Speaker 1: last year, you know, coaching up Jimmy Garoppolo and all
Speaker 1: this stuff. It's like, you know, skanks. You know, that's
Speaker 1: what I learned about skanks. What would you want the
Speaker 1: nickname to be if you were him? Sank or skank? Skank,
Speaker 1: sk skank Get over here. I mean, I'm sure he
Speaker 1: has gotten that. Um. If you guys, if you guys
Speaker 1: heard maybe during the pressers, a little chirp of a canary,
Speaker 1: maybe a smell like a sulfur let's go too cold town, guys,
Speaker 1: we're chatting and uh, listen. Growing up in Pearl River,
Speaker 1: it's it's different. It's different. It bonds you because it
Speaker 1: is working class. It is people trying to survive, like
Speaker 1: one per center is trying to survive day by day,
Speaker 1: just trying to get by. And it's a brotherhood. And
Speaker 1: so when Ryan Gaine, who grew up in Pearl River
Speaker 1: Quake Lane, when I see him on the on the podium,
Speaker 1: I have to grab him. I go, hey, Pearl River man,
Speaker 1: me too. We have a nice chat and I share
Speaker 1: a little news that surprised him that back in the
Speaker 1: late nineties, UM, I was a senior in high school
Speaker 1: and UM, during a study hall class, we had a
Speaker 1: substitute teacher and it was none other than twenty three
Speaker 1: year old Brian Gaine, who at the time was trying
Speaker 1: to catch on with the Jets and the Giants and
Speaker 1: even the Colts practice squad. He never made it to
Speaker 1: the NFL, but he had a nice college career I
Speaker 1: believe at Delaware, played at don Bosco Prep right over
Speaker 1: the border in Jersey, but a Pearl River guys. Parents
Speaker 1: still live in Pearl River, and he he was my
Speaker 1: study hall teacher, and I remember talking to him and
Speaker 1: being obviously, uh, I was about seventeen, he was twenty three,
Speaker 1: just being in awe of this dude who seemed to
Speaker 1: be on the right path and it turned out that
Speaker 1: he was. What is What was his response to this?
Speaker 1: He was he was very cool. He was nice about it,
Speaker 1: and he said, uh, like I mentioned my friend Bob
Speaker 1: whoy Do a throwback podcast with who lived grew up
Speaker 1: like three doors down, and uh, Bob's family used to
Speaker 1: call the games the Basketball Boys because all the brothers
Speaker 1: used to be in the driveway playing basketball all the time.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it was an athletic family. I mean, I
Speaker 1: know in the in the with the with the coldtown situation,
Speaker 1: the respiratory issues when you're an adult are very heavy
Speaker 1: and incumberently. How did you notice that the press converence?
Speaker 1: I didn't because he was wearing like the phoenix sweater
Speaker 1: and a in a two shirt. It looked like kind
Speaker 1: of the dad from nine or two one out of me.
Speaker 1: But he got out and I got out, and I
Speaker 1: love pro over to this day. But we could you
Speaker 1: could take us out of Pearl River said it was
Speaker 1: one of the nicest places to live in America. And
Speaker 1: you know what that vaccines, right, absolutely right, don't don't
Speaker 1: take it away from this. Well, what about when you
Speaker 1: brought up a story you you know, you're trying to
Speaker 1: like getting good with him, and he said, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: remember I remember you. You said that day that you
Speaker 1: were going to see private parts of the Howard Stern
Speaker 1: movie and then he just shot your story you right then? No,
Speaker 1: he said, he said, that wasn't me. And you know
Speaker 1: what I want, I'm going to give him the benefit
Speaker 1: of the doubt and and say that maybe I was
Speaker 1: talking to a different substitute teacher. But my memory is
Speaker 1: pretty clear that he was pumped up to see that movie.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't like he wasn't a jerk about He's like, no,
Speaker 1: you got the wrong guy. There was that like the
Speaker 1: last part of your conversation. Know what, this is why
Speaker 1: you're a bad person? Was he? Was? He a good
Speaker 1: substitute tea? Is that how it ended? So I did
Speaker 1: an end a while. I guess it was a bad conversation.
Speaker 1: As it turns out, it's good. It's fine. For the record,
Speaker 1: Brian Gaine has has the look of somebody who maybe
Speaker 1: like the attorney for the coal mine company. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: he's listen. That's one of my big final takeaway from
Speaker 1: me um is why are all the coaches and GM's
Speaker 1: like good looking? Now? Remember like the old days, these
Speaker 1: guys are just a wreck physically. Now it's it's just like,
Speaker 1: come on, you're gonna be better looking at this too.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we need a shot at bump
Speaker 1: Phield bums. Fine, take that back, Okay, thank you? Are you?
Speaker 1: Have you noticed that? I have? I think it's because
Speaker 1: you're essentially the front facing CEO at this point where
Speaker 1: they used to not do twenty minutes of media every
Speaker 1: day that NFL network and ESPN broadcast to like four
Speaker 1: billion homes. So you can't roll in there looking like,
Speaker 1: you know, twelve sheets to the wind. You haven't jogged
Speaker 1: since it doesn't fly at the like a good sign
Speaker 1: for the job that the guy was slovenly he's Oh,
Speaker 1: he's grinder. He's on the ground twenty three hours a day.
Speaker 1: Chewing up tape doesn't work. Now you're the CEO, UM,
Speaker 1: I do have one final thought, gentleman. Uh Tom Tolesco,
Speaker 1: the GM of the Chargers, was asked UM about the
Speaker 1: quarterback draft class and this is how he became. He
Speaker 1: began his answer, not so much Daniel Jeremiah to give
Speaker 1: you a quarterback analysis of the group. But now I
Speaker 1: know to LESCo and obviously DJ have ties. They know
Speaker 1: each other. And also DJ is the color guy for
Speaker 1: the Chargers. But I just want to say this, when
Speaker 1: you talk about making the Leap right, one of your
Speaker 1: famous series, that you right, this is the combine of DJ,
Speaker 1: I feel like and of course Mayak moves out of
Speaker 1: the picture and into a front office DJ more than ever,
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah is having a moment right now, the fact
Speaker 1: that he is now a brand that you bring up
Speaker 1: DJ as Hey, I'm no Daniel Jeremiah DJ, and he
Speaker 1: should start a podcast because it seems like he has
Speaker 1: a lot to offer. He's having a moment. I gotta
Speaker 1: tip my hat to the guy. I gotta say it,
Speaker 1: and then come on, come in and started. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're right, he's gonna be The football world's gonna be
Speaker 1: watching him Saturday and Sunday and throughout. He's probably gonna
Speaker 1: be a general manager in like three years. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think when he Because now if you were to text him,
Speaker 1: he will text you back the minute he's encamped with
Speaker 1: a team with real information and that's the end of
Speaker 1: our relationship. But it really is like I saw it
Speaker 1: in the lobby at our hotel, outside the coffee shop,
Speaker 1: if you try to make eye contact when you start
Speaker 1: walking to all of a sudden, it's like the Beatles,
Speaker 1: like four like Pasty Scouts or all these different people
Speaker 1: crowd around him. Everyone wants a piece of Jeremiah. Do
Speaker 1: you really want your GM saying that he doesn't know
Speaker 1: as much as an NFL network analyst. I would want
Speaker 1: my jam to say, actually, I do scout quarterbacks, and
Speaker 1: I do watch them, and I do have a take here,
Speaker 1: but is just trying to get a little pop. That
Speaker 1: might be the first time he was mentioned on this
Speaker 1: podcast and not three years before it worked. DJ is
Speaker 1: having a good life. No, he's doing a nice He's
Speaker 1: one of those guys who's just good at living. It's good.
Speaker 1: Got the kids kind of done early, and so he's
Speaker 1: gonna be like empty house, like early forties. It's all
Speaker 1: living in San Diego. Great quality of life. Look about
Speaker 1: face on DJ. But speaking of which, Mark dining with
Speaker 1: DJ still hit him up at move the six hashtag
Speaker 1: hashtag dining with DJ. I think, now, as you see
Speaker 1: his trajectory, why would you not want to be with him?
Speaker 1: The night before the draft on that Proud Mary cruise
Speaker 1: ship where you have I think they said it's like
Speaker 1: a three or four hour window. It's lobster champagne and
Speaker 1: it's like five people in DJ. This is when everyone
Speaker 1: wants to have dinner with DJ. This is your chance
Speaker 1: and not for lightweight. So you have to tweet them
Speaker 1: and you have to use the hashtag, and it's there
Speaker 1: are people currently going through. There's one winner, what potential
Speaker 1: winner has been picked already, but there's a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of the rest need to produce something more content. Please,
Speaker 1: All right, there we go any anything else? We are now,
Speaker 1: we're going, we are, we are then on a plane
Speaker 1: back to Culver for nextually. Yeah, let's talk about Vic
Speaker 1: Beasley is gonna be returning to the Falcons. I think
Speaker 1: it's a great week for the Jaguars. They got Marcel
Speaker 1: Darius to take a pay cut and Nicks on a
Speaker 1: platter for them. Emmanuel Sanders can't believe he's gonna be back. Wow.
Speaker 1: Anything else on the Panthers absolutely zero. All right, this
Speaker 1: is Dan Hansis signing off four Quiet Storm, The Mailman,
Speaker 1: the Old Boss, and Ricky Hollywood sitting on the stool.
Speaker 1: You got You're in a chair progress, Jill Monday, enjoy
Speaker 1: the combine. Yep, yep,