Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast is king in the North.
Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansus and I have joined in
Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, happy heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris
Speaker 1: Westling and Greg Rosehal What is up boys? Hey? Dn Wow? Mark? Yes,
Speaker 1: Anthony Sessler not my middle name, Mark, Edward Cessler. It
Speaker 1: is a new day because Odell Beckham is a member
Speaker 1: of the Cleveland Browns. Maron. Not only that, Enya is
Speaker 1: in the studio with this right now, come on in
Speaker 1: and bring your heart vibrant and your knockoff. I would
Speaker 1: call her Yah. Listen. This is a happy day in
Speaker 1: this in the studio, especially for the long suffering brown fan,
Speaker 1: the long suffering Jets fan. Let me break it down
Speaker 1: like this, Mark. One days ago, the Browns drafted Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield first over my Jets. Look, Sam Donald, yesterday, Odell
Speaker 1: Beckham to the Browns, Levy on belt of the Jets.
Speaker 1: Something's happening, my friend, Something's happening. I think if you
Speaker 1: believe in this concept of football gods, that there's been
Speaker 1: a shake up up in the world of football heaven
Speaker 1: because there for a long standing time whoever was running
Speaker 1: this show had a deep disdain for the two teams
Speaker 1: you just mentioned, and it seems to be turning a
Speaker 1: little bit. I like the one reaction for me personally
Speaker 1: because it's you know, it's I think, I think it's
Speaker 1: a nice day in a way where you come to
Speaker 1: work and like everyone's like, hey man, how are you feeling?
Speaker 1: Like I'm so happy for you. It's like now on Twitter,
Speaker 1: it's like I get it because you're you've followed a
Speaker 1: team for so long and it's been so rough, and
Speaker 1: it's become it's like a part of your whole experience here.
Speaker 1: But uh, I don't know how to describe it. It's
Speaker 1: sleeve for me, very bizarre to look at a roster that,
Speaker 1: you know, we had a free agency show that West
Speaker 1: just called the Brown's roster super Bowl worthy, which, um again,
Speaker 1: I would feel it have to be in the middle
Speaker 1: of the night in a dream to hear that happening.
Speaker 1: That's very Browns and super Bowl in the same sentence.
Speaker 1: It's the thing that's happening now. They are yours that
Speaker 1: broke the news to me that they were the fifth
Speaker 1: highest most likely team to win the Super Bowl in Vegas. Right,
Speaker 1: and the other people are saying that the desert people,
Speaker 1: not just the desert people, are getting behind the Browns.
Speaker 1: This country is and we've been kind of ahead of
Speaker 1: the curve on this, uh in the in the sense
Speaker 1: that there has been a ground swell towards the Browns
Speaker 1: in this country. Uh, and really NFL fans around the world.
Speaker 1: This idea of getting behind the Browns a big part
Speaker 1: of it. I think it was Baker Mayfield, um, and
Speaker 1: this idea that this team that went one and thirty
Speaker 1: one and oh and sixteen could turn it around. And
Speaker 1: I think hard knocks fed into that. And then what happened.
Speaker 1: What's the season got going? Uh, it bottomed out with
Speaker 1: Hugh getting fired, with the o C getting fired, and
Speaker 1: then there's this been this wave that's been building and
Speaker 1: it kind of to me crested with this Odell Beckham
Speaker 1: trade and in which the Giants and we'll get to
Speaker 1: the Giants and and and this is a big show
Speaker 1: by that we're gonna go through all day three of
Speaker 1: free agency, but also uh, day one of the New
Speaker 1: League year. Happy New Year, everybody. We're gonna break down
Speaker 1: all the news that's going on. And also Joe Thomas,
Speaker 1: who was on our Around the NFL Twitter show Big Fish, Yeah,
Speaker 1: big Fish earlier today. We don't do this often, but
Speaker 1: when when it's something that we like and we want
Speaker 1: more people to see, slash here it. We'll add this
Speaker 1: to the will add to the end of the show.
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas sitting in with Greg Mark and myself, uh,
Speaker 1: talking about the Browns and all this, but this idea
Speaker 1: that the brown it seems like it's cresting now where
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham completely changes everything. There's an excitement that goes
Speaker 1: has gone next level because that's the type of player
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham is. West He is a transcendent talent. You
Speaker 1: wrote about it on the dot com, and he takes
Speaker 1: everything to the next level. I think he's the most
Speaker 1: talented player in the NFL since he entered the NFL.
Speaker 1: He has more talent than anyone. And I think you're
Speaker 1: going to see the difference that a quarterback makes. I
Speaker 1: think I saw a stat from Pro Football Focus last
Speaker 1: night that Eli Manning had the um worst accuracy on
Speaker 1: balls on hands and on the body that can be
Speaker 1: caught easily by a wide receiver. Not a great trade.
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield from week ten On was fourth among quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in that category. And I think you're gonna see a
Speaker 1: Randy Moss like effect in the Brown's offense, from the
Speaker 1: speed in the space, sne the big playability. And if
Speaker 1: you look at the last year, at this time, Dave
Speaker 1: Gentleman thought he had a chance to draft Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: impair him with Odell Beckham. Nobody knew the Browns were
Speaker 1: gonna take Baker Mayfield. The Giants were drafting second. Everybody
Speaker 1: thought Sam Donald was going to the Browns. They've get
Speaker 1: him and could have paired Baker may feel with Odell Beckham.
Speaker 1: Now he gets to watch the Browns pair Baker may
Speaker 1: Feel with O'Dell Beckham. To the one thing for me
Speaker 1: that where where another source of hope comes versus hey,
Speaker 1: look at this is a get good quick through free agency.
Speaker 1: Is that their past two drafts proved that the core
Speaker 1: of this team is their young players. Because John Dorsey
Speaker 1: brings in Mayfield, it's Denzel Ward, it's Nick Chubb, it's
Speaker 1: Antonio Callaway, it's Jernard Avery, and the year before, Miles Garrett, David,
Speaker 1: the Joku, Larry Ogunjobi, and it goes on and on.
Speaker 1: You've got a young core after honestly, what's been fifteen
Speaker 1: plus years of not just bad drafts, but embarrassing and
Speaker 1: devastating drafts that netted maybe only one or two star players,
Speaker 1: one of them being Joe Thomas. But you gotta go
Speaker 1: back that far, and when you hit on the draft
Speaker 1: two years in a row like this, and then you
Speaker 1: use free agency, so they have fewer draft picks. But
Speaker 1: they didn't get fleeced in this. Oh great, they got
Speaker 1: it for a lot less than I would have thought
Speaker 1: it would have cost. And to me, I get that
Speaker 1: Sashi Brown did a lot to put the Browns in
Speaker 1: great position and will always deserve that credit. But a
Speaker 1: year ago was kind of like John Dorsey is just
Speaker 1: this sort of clunky football dude that wears a sweatshirt.
Speaker 1: He has done a lot to add talent and self
Speaker 1: scout the roster, and that's one of the big reasons
Speaker 1: why they are this is a smart guy too, because
Speaker 1: this is the same situation or a similar situation. I said,
Speaker 1: I should say that he inherited in k C a
Speaker 1: team that would be reft of talent but had cap space,
Speaker 1: and he was able to by making right the right
Speaker 1: moves and going after the right players, build up the
Speaker 1: roster quickly. And he's done it again with the Browns,
Speaker 1: and that just to me. And we were talking about
Speaker 1: the Raiders the other day, what is their direction? These
Speaker 1: moves that they see like half measures. But it is
Speaker 1: also a reminder that how quickly things can change that
Speaker 1: Las Vegas again, it's the desert. It is what it is.
Speaker 1: But I think it's a good indicator that they have
Speaker 1: the Browns and the top five teams most likely to
Speaker 1: win Super Bowl fifty four. They were owing sixteen h
Speaker 1: two seasons ago. I mean, that's how quickly thinks Well,
Speaker 1: that's a reflection of the people. That's a reflection of
Speaker 1: the people that want to bet on the Browns. That's
Speaker 1: a reflection of them becoming America's team. Are they one
Speaker 1: of the best teams that potentially they could potentially? I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have them in the top five team is most
Speaker 1: likely to win the Super Bowl? Uh So, I think
Speaker 1: that's that's overheated. Not not the best thing, but they
Speaker 1: had that. The offensive talent is wild. Putting Sheldon Richardson
Speaker 1: next to Ogan, Jobi uh and Miles Garrett is wild.
Speaker 1: A million things that are coming together for this team.
Speaker 1: You still have Greg Robinson and Chris Hubbard as your
Speaker 1: two tackles trying to protect this whole thing. The off
Speaker 1: season is far from over, so I don't think we
Speaker 1: even should put a finish on what they're doing, what
Speaker 1: what anyone else is doing. But it's the fact that
Speaker 1: it's Baker. I mean, none of this is the quarter,
Speaker 1: but it's always Baker, and Baker going into his second
Speaker 1: year is the thing I'm most excited about in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Even if he didn't have Jarvis Landry, so now you
Speaker 1: have I think he can make Jarvis Landry better. I
Speaker 1: think he can make Antonio Callaway better. Odell Beckham is
Speaker 1: that they all help each other out. You have Kareem
Speaker 1: Hunt maybe coming later in the year, but Nick Chubb
Speaker 1: and Duke Johnson is a great backfield and and the
Speaker 1: price tag was so small. And that's the part that
Speaker 1: if you're a Giants fan, annoys me because they said,
Speaker 1: we don't need to trade him, we're not looking to
Speaker 1: trade him, and their actions say they were gonna trade him.
Speaker 1: They were just gonna take the best offer. And maybe
Speaker 1: they maybe they could have waited till April or not.
Speaker 1: And they said they were, they needed to be blown away.
Speaker 1: And apparently the number seventeen overall pick a mid level
Speaker 1: starting safety and Jimberrol Peppers in the third round pick
Speaker 1: was blown away. But for you to put twenty one
Speaker 1: million dollars in dead cat money and you can, and
Speaker 1: Mina Kim said a good tweet just thinking of the
Speaker 1: if the Giants actually were committed to rebuilding, what they
Speaker 1: could have done a year ago by trading Land and Collins,
Speaker 1: by trading Odell Beckham before you gave him this contract
Speaker 1: and took on all that money, like there were other
Speaker 1: routes they could have gone, and they didn't. They didn't.
Speaker 1: They look like they don't know what they're doing. And
Speaker 1: the Browns are smart enough to be aggressive and see
Speaker 1: a window of opportunity and go get it. Take about
Speaker 1: John Dorsey first of all, Man of the Hour has
Speaker 1: built simultaneously to a f C Super Bowl contenders, and
Speaker 1: for his last flourish in Kansas City out maneuvered four
Speaker 1: teams to draft Patrick Mahomes. Then, when against the grain
Speaker 1: of everybody in the NFL, assuming he would take Sam Donald,
Speaker 1: took Baker Mayfield. And now for his ps to resistance
Speaker 1: trades Odell Beckham and turns his roster into a super
Speaker 1: Bowl caliber roster. Giants Bill James in the nine eighties said,
Speaker 1: throughout the history of sports in America, bad teams always
Speaker 1: blame their best players. This is what the Giants are doing.
Speaker 1: They had leaked to Mike Garrifold this morning. We thought
Speaker 1: the offense could run better without Odell Beckham because Eli
Speaker 1: Manning concentrated too much on getting the ball to Odell Beckham.
Speaker 1: This is a laughable evaluation of your own talent in
Speaker 1: the building. You're moving the wrong player, and you've been
Speaker 1: moving players out of the bill and their dead cat
Speaker 1: money is insane. And you can say, oh, listen, you
Speaker 1: don't understand none of you can quite understand the Giants plan.
Speaker 1: We have a plan. Really, you think Pat Shermer feels
Speaker 1: good about what he's going into in this season. That
Speaker 1: Sherman is dead a terrible setup. But if the Shermer
Speaker 1: family is you know that metaphorically, you know he's fine.
Speaker 1: He's he's gonna have a good life. He's doing what
Speaker 1: he loves. Pat Shermer is in the our old friend
Speaker 1: in San Francisco, the mustachioed friend of ours. What was
Speaker 1: his name again. Oh Jim Tom Suliamma, the Jettison Niners coach.
Speaker 1: That that is what on Washington, that's where he is now,
Speaker 1: Pat Shermer, he's rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. And
Speaker 1: you know what, Dave Gentleman isn't gonna be far behind
Speaker 1: because I think it is gonna be a wave of criticism.
Speaker 1: I don't think the Giants just like they And this
Speaker 1: is also, I gotta say, is surprising as a New
Speaker 1: york as a New Yorker who always watched the Giants
Speaker 1: do things right for decades and decades of my lifetime,
Speaker 1: to see how they're getting things wrong. How when they
Speaker 1: benched Eli a year ago, kind of misjudged the swell
Speaker 1: that would come at them off this now that this
Speaker 1: move to move their most popular player, this, this transcendent
Speaker 1: talent and Beckham, they have misjudged this. And I don't
Speaker 1: think Gettleman survives this. You know, you can't overcome this team, right.
Speaker 1: They had a pr disaster when they benched Eli, and
Speaker 1: the wrong way to handle that is too. I get
Speaker 1: why they put them back in the lineup. Then you
Speaker 1: let it die. You don't overcompensate by committing to a
Speaker 1: fading quarterback for two more years to a maddening degree
Speaker 1: where literally fans, pundits everyone is looking at the Giants saying,
Speaker 1: how can you not see what this all started to
Speaker 1: what Greg was saying with the Giants, they thought they
Speaker 1: were gonna be good last year and that was the
Speaker 1: major miscalculation. I think, which what happened they that's why
Speaker 1: they gave back on the money when the bottom fell
Speaker 1: out the way it did. I think they they course corrected,
Speaker 1: and I don't think they course corrected and made the
Speaker 1: right move. One last thought on Gettleman, this was sound
Speaker 1: two weeks ago today at the NFL scouting combine in Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: We didn't sign O'Dell to trade him. Okay, So I
Speaker 1: know that's all over the place, So understand that, and
Speaker 1: that's all I need to say about that. Let me
Speaker 1: let me just say this. I understand how the business
Speaker 1: works to a certain extent. I've been covering it for
Speaker 1: long enough. I understand lies of of omission are part
Speaker 1: of the game. But the outright lies a little bit
Speaker 1: on my radar because that that there's no way this
Speaker 1: was not percolating on any level inside the organization. He
Speaker 1: chose to send a raw, a erroneous message out to
Speaker 1: the public. I guess that's part of the game. I
Speaker 1: don't like it, though, and I I and I think
Speaker 1: Giants fans part of the reason to hurt so much
Speaker 1: is that when you hear your the boss say that,
Speaker 1: the general managers say that, it sets you at ease
Speaker 1: as a fan is like, all right, they're not gonna
Speaker 1: do anything crazy. And then when the rug gets pulled
Speaker 1: out on you, we gotta eat dirt. We chase that
Speaker 1: which retreats from us, which is why the best way
Speaker 1: to gather trade value for a player is to deny
Speaker 1: that he's on the trade block. Well, it sounds like
Speaker 1: maybe the Browns made the first call. We don't know.
Speaker 1: That part. We don't know, but we do know based
Speaker 1: on various reports, that the Giants then shop the offer
Speaker 1: around and they tried. They tried to see if they
Speaker 1: could do better, which tells you that they did not
Speaker 1: get the moon they were asking for. They were so
Speaker 1: they tried to So they were calling people. Maybe they
Speaker 1: should have. They should have because I don't know John Lynch,
Speaker 1: maybe you know, maybe he would have been on the app.
Speaker 1: He didn't take the call. And and the whole idea
Speaker 1: of like O'Dell is a distraction or anything like that.
Speaker 1: You've heard Jeff Schwartz was a former teammate, you know,
Speaker 1: said he hopes people don't don't think he's an actual
Speaker 1: distraction because he's loved in the locker room, that he
Speaker 1: works his ass off, that he keeps it loose, and
Speaker 1: he and he's an obviously an excellent playmaker, which which
Speaker 1: goes a long way. So if if you can't manage
Speaker 1: great players that are difficult to me, that's on you.
Speaker 1: And I think the Browns, to their credit, are going
Speaker 1: to be confident that they they can manage it, and
Speaker 1: hopefully Freddie Kitchens and and everyone there can because it's
Speaker 1: not easy talent, you know, it's not that managing o'dallas hard.
Speaker 1: It's just managing expectations and feeding the ball to everyone
Speaker 1: and and like getting they're gonna be the favorites now
Speaker 1: in the a f C North. That's not easy. And
Speaker 1: one last thing, like you don't if you're a Giants fan,
Speaker 1: you're looking at what the Browns are doing, what the
Speaker 1: Jets in your own town are doing, and it's not
Speaker 1: it's it's discomforting to look at your regime, your coach
Speaker 1: and GM and they look more like trojan horses that
Speaker 1: were sent inside the organization to take it apart from within.
Speaker 1: Their moves over the last calendar year are unbelievable for
Speaker 1: the lack of value they could have gotten, for the
Speaker 1: kind of players they gave away. I know, I know
Speaker 1: we want to move on, but I think the fans
Speaker 1: would want to know what what was? What? Where were
Speaker 1: you Mark when you found this out and stuff? And
Speaker 1: what what was that? Like? I was out at dinner
Speaker 1: actually and there was I found out I will not disclose.
Speaker 1: Then there's a new most facet at a subplot of
Speaker 1: the part that was a surprise, the reaction on Mark's
Speaker 1: face there. Um, so you're out at dinner with with ESPN.
Speaker 1: I assume it sounds like with ESPN. Yes, with a
Speaker 1: with a job prospect and no, I I learned after
Speaker 1: the fact. And then uh, you know as West and
Speaker 1: I know, we were rerouted contacted by our supervisor to
Speaker 1: uh weigh in on our website and so I was
Speaker 1: quickly in an uber back to a computer. They're gonna
Speaker 1: be on Sunday Night football. It's worst case scenario. They
Speaker 1: are one of the teams, maybe the team of the
Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen season, and and we're just like excited
Speaker 1: to go watch them. They will get the Max funny
Speaker 1: time talking and and I this is not the show
Speaker 1: to bring it up. You made the point the Giants
Speaker 1: couldn't decide they couldn't handle Odell Beckham the Mars and
Speaker 1: and get them in. The GM decided Ken Freddie Kitchens
Speaker 1: handle it. We don't know can the ownership. Do we
Speaker 1: trust the haslms to be able to handle a mercurial
Speaker 1: talent like Beckham is, Jervis Landry is himself, Baker Mayfield's
Speaker 1: an outspoken type guy. It will be that is interesting,
Speaker 1: But that is not the day to doubt. This is
Speaker 1: not the day to doubt the Browns. It is to
Speaker 1: celebrate the mark. And while we're right, why don't we
Speaker 1: celebrate the Jets getting a deal done? Uh? Twenty four
Speaker 1: hours Anthony after Anthony Barr spurned Gang Green uh walked
Speaker 1: backing out of a handshake deal and going back to
Speaker 1: the Vikings, the Jets regroup, Uh, they get more aggressive,
Speaker 1: going after Levy on Bell and they had up landing
Speaker 1: the former Pittsburgh Steelers running back four years fifty two
Speaker 1: and a half million dollars uh the guarantee money. When
Speaker 1: you factor it all in, I think he's the third
Speaker 1: highest paid running back in the league. Uh he so
Speaker 1: he's behind Todd Gurley, which I think he probably was
Speaker 1: shooting for the most money. I think he is also
Speaker 1: behind David Johnson or writing that. Right, we want to
Speaker 1: see this is another one. Like a lot of these deals,
Speaker 1: we want to see the details. But when it came
Speaker 1: down to it, and this is a very stressful UM
Speaker 1: evening at Hansas manner because I was just relentlessly scrolling
Speaker 1: and refreshing my Twitter feed. U it was super annoying.
Speaker 1: And then you have the Levy on Brown h lebyan
Speaker 1: Bell mixtape that drops, and I will say, um, I
Speaker 1: refrain from clicking into that to see if I could
Speaker 1: find clues, and then thankfully it broke Mike Garifolo broke
Speaker 1: the Beckham story. But Schefter got uh got the leve
Speaker 1: Bell to the Jets. So in a long courtship, a
Speaker 1: lot of uh, A lot of people connected the Jets
Speaker 1: and Bell because it always made sense for both sides
Speaker 1: and their Bell maybe didn't have the market greg that
Speaker 1: he expected to have, but he ends up getting a
Speaker 1: nice pay day and he gets he lands in maybe
Speaker 1: not with a contender, but a team that is showing
Speaker 1: some promise right now, see, and I they should consider
Speaker 1: themselves playoff contenders. Maybe maybe not Super Bowls. Yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: super Bowls a little bit much, but why not? I mean,
Speaker 1: I think with the pieces that they've added with Sam Darneld, Jamison, Crowder,
Speaker 1: Levan Bell, Robbie Anderson, Mac, Chris Herndon, Quincia Noon, Noah,
Speaker 1: you should have a good offense. Come on back. You
Speaker 1: have an offensive coach and if you don't, you know
Speaker 1: that that comes back to the coaching step. And I
Speaker 1: think Bell is going to add a lot. This is
Speaker 1: a guy who's put up what is it, four seasons
Speaker 1: or three where he's had eighteen over almost nine yards
Speaker 1: from scrimmage. He's an unbelievable receiver, one of the best
Speaker 1: running back receivers you know of the last ten years,
Speaker 1: an unbelievable pass protector, a smart guy, a short yardage back.
Speaker 1: You can leave him on the field all three downs
Speaker 1: when you go into hurry up. He can really do
Speaker 1: anything you want. And I think he gives the Jets
Speaker 1: a schematic advantage over other teams, and I think we've
Speaker 1: gone too far in one direction, seeing running backs aren't
Speaker 1: worth anything. I would rather have him than c J.
Speaker 1: Mosley and c J. Mosley is making way more money.
Speaker 1: I would rather have him, uh than some of these
Speaker 1: guards out here, Like who are you more excited about? Left?
Speaker 1: Bell or c J? Mosle Bell? But right? And but
Speaker 1: I also think like Bell is gonna help them win
Speaker 1: more like I think he's gonna help them win more
Speaker 1: than Roger Staffold's gonna help the Titans, and they're gonna
Speaker 1: be making the same uh, you know, average money per year.
Speaker 1: So I think Bell is a transcendent player. And as
Speaker 1: long as his body hasn't fallen apart. He's twenty seven
Speaker 1: years old, he just had a year off. He's only
Speaker 1: had touches in his career, just not that many. I
Speaker 1: think it's a great signing West when you have a
Speaker 1: twenty one year old quarterback that you believe in with
Speaker 1: all your heart is a star. What is the first
Speaker 1: thing you do when you have the opportunity lean on
Speaker 1: your running game for support and you just well, you
Speaker 1: build around him. You give him weapons, you give him
Speaker 1: people that you know he could turn to and make
Speaker 1: the job easier, and I feel like leavy On Bell
Speaker 1: fits the mold absolutely, and I think most NFL teams
Speaker 1: in today's NFL, this was not true twenty years ago
Speaker 1: or thirty years ago, view frontline running backs expensive running
Speaker 1: backs as luxuries rather than necessities, because they can find
Speaker 1: running backs anywhere. But the type of team that should
Speaker 1: go get a luxury is a team with a depleted
Speaker 1: offensive roster and tons of room under the salary cap.
Speaker 1: That's who the Jets were. The Jets have simply not
Speaker 1: been relevant outside out of the Rex Ryan era at all,
Speaker 1: and they've lacked star players on offense. And I think
Speaker 1: it goes beyond just adding everyone. Levy On Bell will
Speaker 1: make Sam Donald so much better, Yes, but Sam Donald
Speaker 1: was also attached to one of the least creative offensive
Speaker 1: schemes we've seen in a long time. He I thought
Speaker 1: he was essentially handcuffed from wire to wire. And I
Speaker 1: think that it's it's it's Sam Donald is going is
Speaker 1: in position to make a leap because of Levian Bella,
Speaker 1: because you have to trust that Adam Gates is going
Speaker 1: to do more with him than what he was put
Speaker 1: into last year. And the line is still an issue
Speaker 1: it's not the same offensive line in terms of talent
Speaker 1: and experience as the Steelers had. But the Colletcheo assembly move,
Speaker 1: which is completely kind of lost in the shovel now
Speaker 1: and it should be there are bigger things going on,
Speaker 1: was a really nice trade by Mike mccagnan, who's had
Speaker 1: a nice week. I think, uh, they've lost out on
Speaker 1: the on the search to replace their center. I think
Speaker 1: that's something they're still gonna be on the hunt for it.
Speaker 1: But in general, I think this team, and out of
Speaker 1: the the Flash in the Pan Fits Magic year, the
Speaker 1: Jets have been arguably the least fun offense to watch,
Speaker 1: uh for a decade. So anybody, when you add a
Speaker 1: guy like Levy on Bell, a potential Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: talent still twenty seven years old, only twenty seven years old,
Speaker 1: you're you're doing backflips and yeah, the whole New York angle.
Speaker 1: It is weird, and it's not as surreal as where
Speaker 1: Mark is right now, because I think anybody would be
Speaker 1: envious where Mark. You are as a fan right now, uh,
Speaker 1: and you've earned it after all the years of suffering.
Speaker 1: But if you're a Jets fan, you're so excited to
Speaker 1: not be the dysfunctional one right now. In New York,
Speaker 1: it is the Giants and the day that they the
Speaker 1: Jets get Bell and the Jets arrow is heading up
Speaker 1: and the Giants is heading down. That doesn't that don't
Speaker 1: happen in New York. In New Jersey. I know somebody
Speaker 1: from New York in New Jersey. He's my old man,
Speaker 1: Keith Hansas. We haven't heard from him in a while.
Speaker 1: I wanted to hear his thoughts on Levy on Bell
Speaker 1: joining gang guys. His name is Yeah, He'll doubt about it.
Speaker 1: He's a big Jets fan. What is he going to say?
Speaker 1: Pulling game to say? What does he go game? Today?
Speaker 1: I think all Jet fans have to be excited with
Speaker 1: the news yesterday the signing of Levian Bell. Is only
Speaker 1: twenty seven years old and he's a four year contract.
Speaker 1: He's a great running back as well as an excellent
Speaker 1: past receiver. Uh. This should really help the Jets advance
Speaker 1: this year. Hopefully they can acquire a couple other players
Speaker 1: to help him on the offensive line. But I think
Speaker 1: this move show is showing the Jets are moving forward
Speaker 1: and that's the good news for all Jet fans. You
Speaker 1: can hear in my dad's voice. You know, there's been
Speaker 1: a lot of big signings in the past, a lot
Speaker 1: of big moves by the Jets, and they always seem
Speaker 1: to blow up in their face. So there's a little
Speaker 1: bit of trepidations, hesitation not to dive in with um,
Speaker 1: you know, two feet, But it's all right to be
Speaker 1: excited if you're Jets, be excited. His analysis is always
Speaker 1: enjoyable and concise. They did have the highest paid free
Speaker 1: agent last year to people, Trumaine Johnson, and because I
Speaker 1: was the only the reasons I remember that was we
Speaker 1: we I looked back at our podcast from a year
Speaker 1: ago just see what you know, we had done in
Speaker 1: in the first day of free agency. Podcast was named
Speaker 1: Jets make their Move and I was like, what was
Speaker 1: the Jets making their move? And I was just like,
Speaker 1: I guess it wasn't as newsy last year. Treumaine Johnson
Speaker 1: was the best something someone was writing about the young
Speaker 1: this Jets cores they're trying to build. Treumaine Johnson wasn't
Speaker 1: even listed as like, wow, it seemed like a whiff anyway.
Speaker 1: But that's not the day to talk about that either, Greg.
Speaker 1: It's a positive day for the Jets as well. Let's
Speaker 1: move on now the Ravens. Greg. The Ravens been Pilford
Speaker 1: in the early part of free agency. C J. Moseley,
Speaker 1: who we mentioned, went to the Jets. Terrell Suggs defects
Speaker 1: to the Arizona Cardinals. They part ways with Eric Weddle,
Speaker 1: they lose who else they live? Darius Smith, I mean
Speaker 1: John Brown, smokey. We need something good to happen if
Speaker 1: you're a Ravens fan. So they did. They got busy.
Speaker 1: On Wednesday, safety Earl Thomas signed a four year, fifty
Speaker 1: five million dollar anybody take Earl Thomas in the sandwich?
Speaker 1: We not take the Ravens. We went over four uh,
Speaker 1: four years, fifty five million dollars. The contract includes thirty
Speaker 1: two million guaranteed averages fourteen point three three million over
Speaker 1: the first three years. Per Ian Rappaport. Uh. That was
Speaker 1: the highest player left on West and Greg's uh top
Speaker 1: one on one free agents. Uh. And I'll tell you what, Greg,
Speaker 1: this feels like a perfect raven signed Ravens signing. Do
Speaker 1: you agree? I do. I love when teams have a tradition,
Speaker 1: like at a certain position, and when you go from
Speaker 1: Ed Reid to a few years with Eric Weddell, who
Speaker 1: did it up right. We had three Pro Bowl years,
Speaker 1: absolutely did it up right. You go from Eric Reid
Speaker 1: in that deep safety position to Eric Weddle to Earl Thomas,
Speaker 1: it just feels seamless. And I love when a guy
Speaker 1: who's a Hall of Famer in my mind, Earl Thomas,
Speaker 1: at least he's played to that level, has a chance
Speaker 1: to have two separate chapters that are really memorable and unique.
Speaker 1: And I think him joining the Ravens is the perfect
Speaker 1: continuation of of their defensive tradition and gives him a
Speaker 1: chance at least to have one of those first ballot
Speaker 1: really special, memorable types of career because you know they'll
Speaker 1: know how to use them. Like the concern when you
Speaker 1: hear this hoop la about oh just you know Ticket
Speaker 1: Cleveland for the NFC North is that there are two
Speaker 1: teams in that division that have proven no matter what
Speaker 1: happens to them off season to offseason, they will find
Speaker 1: a way to succeed when the game's actually happened. And
Speaker 1: you trust their ownership, their coaching staff, their ability to
Speaker 1: developed players, the fact that they're almost Patriots like the Ravens,
Speaker 1: where they've had a similar scheme on defense for so long.
Speaker 1: So you're looking for the right and they let people
Speaker 1: leave like the pat exactly. And Earl Thomas fits perfectly.
Speaker 1: The minute that you know someone else could have overpaid
Speaker 1: and he might have fit or he might not. The
Speaker 1: minute I heard Ravens and Earl Thomas, I thought, I
Speaker 1: can already see him in Baltimore. This is gonna go
Speaker 1: very well. Yes, that and also another fit another twenty
Speaker 1: nine year old turning thirty this year now a member
Speaker 1: of the Ravens. Mark Ingram, your boy Mark Sessler, uh,
Speaker 1: your USO friends strikes a three year, fifteen million dollar
Speaker 1: deal with the Ravens. Uh so he enters the backfield.
Speaker 1: Um that um looks like with the quarterback Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: and mark Ingram, that seems like a one two punch
Speaker 1: that you can get behind. I think they're gonna they're
Speaker 1: they're a strong candidate to lead the a f C.
Speaker 1: And and carries again. I mean, I think they want
Speaker 1: to be a little bit more of a balanced office.
Speaker 1: But mark Ingram forget about the gust Bus Edwards d
Speaker 1: late last year, right, And I don't think it's just
Speaker 1: it's not Mark kingramd come in and be the featured back.
Speaker 1: It's you're part of a committee again, and it's a
Speaker 1: good fit. They're just both great fits, great natural fits.
Speaker 1: And I think when you see them get poached ransacked
Speaker 1: Pilford like they did on defense, and then to see
Speaker 1: what the Browns did with their moves, and everyone's kind
Speaker 1: of thinking in the back of their minds, I guess
Speaker 1: the Ravens are taking a little nap here and it's like, oh, touchet,
Speaker 1: Well they announced. They announced Earl Thomas and mark Ingram
Speaker 1: within minutes of each other, and they're both great fits. Well,
Speaker 1: they've got a great secondary on paper. You know, they've
Speaker 1: kept Jimmy Smith. They still have Tony Jefferson, Marlin Humphrey,
Speaker 1: Brandon Carr, Earl Thomas. That might be the best secondary
Speaker 1: in the league. I think they were caught flat footed
Speaker 1: by Mosley. I think their number two receiver right now
Speaker 1: is either I mean, they're number one receiver is Willie
Speaker 1: Snead that's problematic, and their number two receiver is Chris More.
Speaker 1: I don't know so right, I get it, but I'm
Speaker 1: a little concerned about them advancing the football through the air.
Speaker 1: So that's it's early in the off season. Now we
Speaker 1: said last twenty nineteen, and I feel like that is
Speaker 1: something you want to be able to do. The forward
Speaker 1: past seems important for all these But for all the
Speaker 1: kudos for Baltimore, I cannot think of a team that's
Speaker 1: had rougher luck drafting wide receivers if that's what they
Speaker 1: want to do, well, luck is one way to put it.
Speaker 1: If all right, if you had to pick one team
Speaker 1: in the a f C North, the Bengals least likely
Speaker 1: other than Cincinnati, UH to hit that ten to eleven
Speaker 1: win range, who would it be? That's a good one.
Speaker 1: I think I would go to Ravens. I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a good division race between all. I think
Speaker 1: anybody thinks the Browns are gonna go fourteen and two. No,
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a dog fight because I
Speaker 1: think the division is still very strong. We're talking about
Speaker 1: a team that has not learned how to win inside
Speaker 1: their own relation, and it's like it's they're ripe for
Speaker 1: growing pains. I don't care about the star power that
Speaker 1: left Pittsburgh. They will find a way to get to
Speaker 1: ten or eleven wins. They we still have star power
Speaker 1: right right? But but the Ravens have had. They are
Speaker 1: a franchise that's had a lot of stability, and it
Speaker 1: now that they have this much change on defense and
Speaker 1: this much change on offense and a new quarterback and
Speaker 1: a new offensive corner. I mean, this hasn't exactly been
Speaker 1: the Patriots over the last six years. I think they've won.
Speaker 1: I mean, when's the last time they won a playoff game?
Speaker 1: Was a Super Bowl? Right, So, I mean I would
Speaker 1: I would put them. Well, we had John Harbor on
Speaker 1: the hot seat for various times over the past couple
Speaker 1: of years, but their offensive work, the way it did
Speaker 1: down the seton buildings seems to be putting them on
Speaker 1: the hot seat. You know, we we all kind of
Speaker 1: like John Harball a lot. It seems we're horriball guys, right.
Speaker 1: I feel like we Greg mentioned Sea scenario. I was
Speaker 1: just mentioning that it was on the table because they
Speaker 1: haven't you know, they were a little up and down.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's keep moving, boys. They've got a lot
Speaker 1: to get to that they did beat the Steelers that
Speaker 1: one year in the playoffs. I blew that uh d
Speaker 1: Ford is on the move. The Chiefs and forty Niners
Speaker 1: have agreed agreed to a trade involving Ford in exchange
Speaker 1: for swond round draft pick that came from rap sheet. UH.
Speaker 1: Ford gets a new contract with the Niners, expected to
Speaker 1: be five years and eighty seven and a half million
Speaker 1: dollars star money for a top pass rusher. UM, do
Speaker 1: you like this move? Mark for the Niners. I'll just
Speaker 1: reiterate what we've what we've talked about with d Ford
Speaker 1: that you have this peak contract year campaign uh in
Speaker 1: a scheme that he fit in, and again you hope
Speaker 1: that he can do duplicate that with the Niners. I mean,
Speaker 1: I like it, but this is not someone that's given
Speaker 1: you five straight years of this production, and it's a
Speaker 1: little bit more of a wild card move for me.
Speaker 1: What I love is the idea of the Niners, with
Speaker 1: the draft pick they have and with the incredible pass
Speaker 1: rushers hitting us this year in the draft, you could
Speaker 1: pair him with someone else and suddenly you've got something
Speaker 1: going on. I have d Ford with dominant games in
Speaker 1: two out of last three season. He I think he
Speaker 1: was a dominant player two out of the last three years.
Speaker 1: He was unhealthy for part of the season uh three
Speaker 1: years ago. But I think he is absolutely not a
Speaker 1: one year wonder. I wonder how he fits going from
Speaker 1: a three or four defense to a four three. But
Speaker 1: the forty Niners finally have a pass rusher. And if
Speaker 1: they pick up Nick Bosa with the number two pick,
Speaker 1: and that would be intensive line suddenly goes from a
Speaker 1: liability to I'm holding. I hope Nick Bosa drops the
Speaker 1: three to the Jets, but it would be We talked
Speaker 1: to Daniel Jeremiah earlier today. DJ threw it out there
Speaker 1: that if you pair Ford and Bosa, you're going to
Speaker 1: terrorize some very good quarterbacks in that And and DeForest
Speaker 1: Buckner's like the best maybe the best player in the
Speaker 1: league that gets no attention. Now he's kind of take
Speaker 1: you know, I think Fletcher Cox is kind of now
Speaker 1: he does get the attention. And Tyler Eifford is a
Speaker 1: little under the radar. That that is a ridiculous. It's
Speaker 1: it's a move though that I feel like John Lynch's.
Speaker 1: You know, teams are hesitant to give out a contract
Speaker 1: that big. I mean, that's the biggest contract in free agency?
Speaker 1: Am I right? Well here's another contract and and I
Speaker 1: want to say, just like that's the biggest contract and
Speaker 1: you gave up a second round pick, and the way
Speaker 1: the forty nine has been playing lately, that's a high pick.
Speaker 1: So that is a big time um risk that he's taken.
Speaker 1: I think John Lynch realized this year three they need
Speaker 1: to start showing some results. One little thing that catches
Speaker 1: me and I get so if he he if he
Speaker 1: has this natural talent, maybe he can shift into another scheme.
Speaker 1: But the Chiefs who've been with him for half a
Speaker 1: decade say he's not gonna fit in this new scheme.
Speaker 1: The Niners think we can make that work. TV. Another
Speaker 1: move by the Niners, Tevin Coleman joins a crowded backfield.
Speaker 1: He signs a two year, ten million dollar contracts pretty
Speaker 1: nice value by but for the Niners. But it leaves
Speaker 1: you wondering, what's what happens next? Because, uh, we know
Speaker 1: that Matt Brita, he really did have a nice season
Speaker 1: last year after Jerick McKinnon went down with an a
Speaker 1: c L injury before the season started. McKinnon's getting paid
Speaker 1: a lot of money. I think he's already made twelve
Speaker 1: million with the Niners. Is there enough room for all
Speaker 1: three of these guys? I don't know. I think that's
Speaker 1: a good question. Matt Brita to me, is unquestionably the
Speaker 1: best runner on this roster, and I think Tevin Coleman,
Speaker 1: we've already seen the Shanahan knows how to get him
Speaker 1: the ball in space fantastically well. He had an excellent
Speaker 1: season in their Super Bowl year with Kyle Shanahan. And
Speaker 1: to me, Jerick McKinnon coming off a torn a c L,
Speaker 1: I would think that Tevin Coleman is going to be
Speaker 1: the operal of his eye, not Jerick McKinnon. I think
Speaker 1: they'll keep all three, and Coleman came out a great bargain.
Speaker 1: I find it very surprising. I find it very strange
Speaker 1: and almost uncomfortable when a guy like Tevin Coleman as
Speaker 1: the same agent as Levy on Bell, and I think
Speaker 1: that's a clear conflict of interest that makes you. I
Speaker 1: just think there's something really wrong about that, because while
Speaker 1: he was waiting for Levyan Bell to go sign Lottavius
Speaker 1: Murray got more guaranteed money than Tevin Coleman. Some doesn't
Speaker 1: seem right about that, Like, I'm really surprised Ottavius Murray
Speaker 1: got a better contract than than Tevin Coleman. And Coleman
Speaker 1: I think the way that their season went. They need
Speaker 1: as many offensive weapons as they can get. Maybe injuries
Speaker 1: are gonna happen play them all. Doubling back to the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: It's amazing. Is a team, the Chiefs that came very
Speaker 1: close to going to the Super Bowl, but the defense
Speaker 1: obviously disappointed. Bob Sutton got fired because of it. Uh.
Speaker 1: Dford's gone, Justin Houston's gone, Eric Berry gone as well. Uh.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs on Wednesday announced the release a Berry. Uh.
Speaker 1: He had been with the team since being the number
Speaker 1: five pick in the two thousand, two thousand ten draft.
Speaker 1: Of course, Berry is dealt with injuries cancer and he
Speaker 1: hasn't been able to get on the field a lot.
Speaker 1: But Greg, as you pointed out earlier today, he played
Speaker 1: a ton in the last last Chiefs game. But I
Speaker 1: guess ultimately they decided they needed to make a move. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's had his physical problems are as serious as it
Speaker 1: as it gets, and he was able to play, and
Speaker 1: there was some questions should he get more surgery or not.
Speaker 1: I think they they gave him and they were almost
Speaker 1: forced like by public pressure to give him that contract
Speaker 1: and it and it turned into a fiasco for them. Frankly,
Speaker 1: I mean it was just bad luck. But part of
Speaker 1: the reason they gave him that contract despite some injury
Speaker 1: questions was he's known as one of the leaders of
Speaker 1: men and one of the people that is just as
Speaker 1: tough and uh loves football about as much as anyone.
Speaker 1: So I don't think they would dump him basically unless
Speaker 1: they thought he was just done. There were whispers this morning, uh,
Speaker 1: unsure how reliable they are by multiple people, that the
Speaker 1: Browns are making a play for Eric Berry, which makes
Speaker 1: sense because of John Dorsey there. Uh, but ultimately that
Speaker 1: probably be cheap. I mean, you would think you're not
Speaker 1: gonna cost a lot of money. Yeah, cancer survivor. I
Speaker 1: hope he's able to come back and make a difference. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's time Fells to jump into the fish tank. It's
Speaker 1: been a while the organic fish tank. The Dobbins need
Speaker 1: a quarterback. You know, they're moving on from Ryan Tannehill. Uh,
Speaker 1: and Teddy Bridgewater made sense as an option, but then
Speaker 1: we heard that Teddy Bridgewater was staying with the Saints. Uh.
Speaker 1: Mark Mark took took issue with that. He really uh
Speaker 1: horror into Teddy and I think Teddy was listening to
Speaker 1: the show because now we have news that Teddy Bridgewater
Speaker 1: is scheduled to meet with the Dolphins in Miami on
Speaker 1: Wednesday night. We're recording this as we reached Wednesday night
Speaker 1: rap sheet reported UH. So obviously a turn of events,
Speaker 1: so we don't have anything as of uh this discussion,
Speaker 1: but do not be surprised if Teddy Bridgewater mark is
Speaker 1: the uh the leader in the clubhouse to be the
Speaker 1: starter for the Dolphins in twenty nine. Right. Jane Slater
Speaker 1: was very adamant that there was an offer from the Saints.
Speaker 1: There was an agreement. Uh, I wonder. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just for the same reasons we brought up yesterday that
Speaker 1: for me, it's not a Teddy Bridgewater thing, because I
Speaker 1: don't know Teddy Bridgewater the person at all. But if
Speaker 1: I want to trade an NFL quarterback, it's whatever team
Speaker 1: you have a chance to start for, if it's your
Speaker 1: only chance, that you would prefer that over being a backup. Now,
Speaker 1: I understand the Dolphins con seemed like a bit of
Speaker 1: a hot mess, But I'll go back to a year
Speaker 1: ago when Baker Mayfield was asked to can do you
Speaker 1: think you can like rescue this moribund Brown's franchise? Coming
Speaker 1: off and oh in sixteen year and he said, absolutely,
Speaker 1: let's do it. That's the that's what you want from
Speaker 1: the neck up, from your quarterback to confidence. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying Teddy Bridgewater personally doesn't have that viewpoint, but I
Speaker 1: questioned a little bit to go become a backup on
Speaker 1: what seems to be a very short range deal with
Speaker 1: the Saints. Where are you? Are you secure that you're
Speaker 1: gonna be there when Drew Brees is done? What? What
Speaker 1: is the plan? So I I want to see what
Speaker 1: happens here. I would not compare Baker Mayfield to Teddy
Speaker 1: Bridgewater from any kind of standpoint. I think Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: just so much better, So that's why he was confident.
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater, to me, there's something to be said for foresight,
Speaker 1: and having the foresight to go stay with the Saints,
Speaker 1: to me just was really smart. Do you have no
Speaker 1: offensive line and one of the worst rosters in the NFL.
Speaker 1: It does make you wonder if the Dolphins said, hey,
Speaker 1: actually we'll we'll offer you a little better. Mike gari
Speaker 1: Folow was on with us earlier today on our was
Speaker 1: it our Twitter Show or was it our NFL Lose
Speaker 1: track because we're so productive, pay us we are technically,
Speaker 1: like four years ago, very unbecoming. Anyway, Uh, Mike told
Speaker 1: us that the Saints deal uh for Teddy Bridgewater, they
Speaker 1: believed there was gonna be in the seven million base
Speaker 1: value range, which is very good money for a backup.
Speaker 1: And now we're hearing reports that if Teddy ends up
Speaker 1: going to Miami, guess who ends up going to New
Speaker 1: Orleans getting that type of money. Maybe Ryan Tannehill. And
Speaker 1: you know what was to your new report that there's
Speaker 1: no way he's going to New Orleans save it for
Speaker 1: the Friday pot. Interesting. It will be interesting, uh to
Speaker 1: see whoever ends up being behind Drew Brees. Uh, that's
Speaker 1: a good spot. I maintained that's a good it is,
Speaker 1: But only Freeze get hurt. Here's the whole thing about
Speaker 1: like Teddy Bridge, it wasn't something they're apparent on a
Speaker 1: one year deal. It's like they'll they'll evaluate it when
Speaker 1: it when it happens, they will give him twenty year deal.
Speaker 1: I mean, the history of forty year old quarterbacks is
Speaker 1: it goes all at once, not like okay, he just
Speaker 1: declined over a period of three years. So if it
Speaker 1: goes you're gonna want that guy behind it. But it's
Speaker 1: confusing too because the history of like recent forty year
Speaker 1: old quarterbacks is they suddenly get better, like Drew Brees
Speaker 1: gets it, like goes for an m v P caliber
Speaker 1: season and then Tom Brady throws five yards in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and then wins at the next would point
Speaker 1: you to Peyton Mannings last year, and let's let's stay
Speaker 1: in the fish tank. Guys, get back in the fish tank,
Speaker 1: the fish tank, Gamber and Wake. He's out. He's got
Speaker 1: in the tank, out of the fish tank, and he's
Speaker 1: heading to the Tennessee Tytoons who agreed uh on a
Speaker 1: three year, twenty three million dollar deal. This from tom
Speaker 1: Pella Sero, our own tom Pella Sero, uh ten million guaranteed.
Speaker 1: Wake already seven years old? Greg Uh when uh when
Speaker 1: he takes the field for Tennessee. Uh So this is
Speaker 1: not a spring chicken. Where are we at so far
Speaker 1: with the Titans in the direction they're going in their
Speaker 1: free agency, because this that's a win they'll buy right there.
Speaker 1: They they've been selective. But I like the moves that
Speaker 1: they made. I think I like Saffo, the like Humphries.
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna Wake is a little bit like Breeze
Speaker 1: or Brady right now because you just assume he's gonna
Speaker 1: fall off at some point every year. It never happened.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's had a remarkable career. He had a
Speaker 1: great season a year ago. To get a ten million
Speaker 1: dollar guarantee on a pretty big contract as a thirty
Speaker 1: what is he? Thirty seven year old? Is insane? Like
Speaker 1: does the Pro Football Hall of Fame. It's kind of
Speaker 1: you know how basketball considers your other leagues, like you know,
Speaker 1: women certainly are in an internationalists. Then I don't know
Speaker 1: because like Wake, I don't I don't know what he
Speaker 1: did in the CFL. Was he just like the best
Speaker 1: player at some point? Like he's building up a case here.
Speaker 1: I believe that Warren CFL contributions were considered when he
Speaker 1: was He's it had a very unique career. Cameron Wake.
Speaker 1: He's pretty amazingly different player. Every year we end up
Speaker 1: talking about, Wow, Cameron Wake. He you gotta give him
Speaker 1: crandit totally different player. But I remember Brandon Marshall a
Speaker 1: few years back bringing up the point that he's been
Speaker 1: so remarkably productive. If you just hang around for three
Speaker 1: or four more years and keep putting up the numbers.
Speaker 1: He'd be hard to keep out. Wake would probably need
Speaker 1: to have a nice run with the Titans here, but
Speaker 1: it's not impossible. Oh, I think he would have to
Speaker 1: go back to being like, well, they need a pass
Speaker 1: they need pass rush. I like it. I guess how
Speaker 1: about a real a certain Hall of Famer sticking in Washington?
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson UH signed a one year deal with Washington
Speaker 1: and responded with his eighth one thousand yards season. Washington
Speaker 1: decides they keep going around, even Darius Guys coming back
Speaker 1: from that a c L tear. Uh, they bring him
Speaker 1: back two year deal worth eight million. Rap sheet and
Speaker 1: Garret Fuller boarded. I don't know what the guaranteed money
Speaker 1: is on this one, but either way, Peterson keeping it
Speaker 1: going at a time when most running backs are in retirement.
Speaker 1: That's Tevin Coleman money and Peterson earned it. He was
Speaker 1: the focal point of that offense and a team that
Speaker 1: looked to be playoff bound until they lost their starting quarterback.
Speaker 1: And I mean, I guess you know you have Darius
Speaker 1: guys coming back as well. That can be a very
Speaker 1: good backfield. And for me, I just I struggle to
Speaker 1: generate any excitement about the about the Redskins when we're
Speaker 1: going to spend an entire offseason of flowery nonsense about
Speaker 1: case Keenum as your starter, and you added a sad,
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a lot of flowers growing around
Speaker 1: the Keeno. I think they'll be in like the Detroit
Speaker 1: Lions Club where they just kind of exist. We are
Speaker 1: like we are, two years removed from an entire offseason
Speaker 1: spent on Trevor Simeon and another one of on Tom Savage. Like,
Speaker 1: believe me, we'll find a way to over celebrate whoever
Speaker 1: starting anywhere? Are we, George, I'm not saying the four
Speaker 1: of us, but it's in the it's in the water
Speaker 1: around here. Are we sure he's starting? The Redskins paid
Speaker 1: the same amount for those two guys. Quote McCoy has
Speaker 1: been in this offense for more than four years, and
Speaker 1: every time Jake Gruden talks about quote McCoy the podcast,
Speaker 1: I'm not sorry starting, but neither was I sure that
Speaker 1: Trevor Simeon. We all said all along that Broncos team
Speaker 1: would have three starters, and they did, and we all
Speaker 1: said Tom Savage is gonna last about fourteen days and
Speaker 1: he did. And it's just that Case Keenum will be
Speaker 1: talked about incessantly and I need him out of my life.
Speaker 1: Here at the on Friday Show, we're gonna do some
Speaker 1: over unders for all these guys landing in new places.
Speaker 1: But while we're here, Uh, case Keenum eleven and a
Speaker 1: half starts over the best of his career under. I'm
Speaker 1: putting rent on that. I mean because at this point
Speaker 1: I need a way to make a little more income.
Speaker 1: If I'm getting even odds putting the rent on under
Speaker 1: and they're gonna draft someone potentially, let's move on the
Speaker 1: The Raiders make another move Tyrrell Williams, who had one
Speaker 1: one thousand yard season and four years of the charges.
Speaker 1: So he's shown it you could do in the past.
Speaker 1: The Raiders are banking on it. He could do it
Speaker 1: some more. Rap Sheet reported Wednesday UH that Oakland signs
Speaker 1: UH Williams four years worth forty four million, twenty two
Speaker 1: million guaranteed. He ranked number thirty nine on NFL dot
Speaker 1: COM's list of top one on one free agents and
Speaker 1: pretty rich money for UH. For Tyrolle Williams, right, it
Speaker 1: seems like a pretty nice deal for him. Not a
Speaker 1: guy I would give that much money too, but a
Speaker 1: job Mr Agent. Without a doubt, Derek Carr has much
Speaker 1: better receivers this year than he did I think GMS.
Speaker 1: I think he had a lot of offer. It sounded
Speaker 1: like he had a lot more interest and maybe would
Speaker 1: have ranked a little higher on the average GM's top
Speaker 1: one oh one list. People were into it, I think
Speaker 1: because deep speed is just so hard to find, and
Speaker 1: he and he, he has that. Suddenly you have him
Speaker 1: and Antonio Brown. I bet right now you have a
Speaker 1: competent collection. I mean going into free agent Jordy Nelson
Speaker 1: Gunn but of the one of the funniest analysis I
Speaker 1: saw the other night. It was from a good a
Speaker 1: good writer, but it was like, you know, you gotta
Speaker 1: really look at the impact that Antonio Brown is going
Speaker 1: to have an opening up things for Jordy Nelson. I
Speaker 1: was like, if Jordy Nelson is if you're if you're
Speaker 1: thinking that that's a major part of their offense and
Speaker 1: that's their number two receiver, that they're gonna still stink
Speaker 1: outside of Buffalo, worst group of wide receivers before these
Speaker 1: two signings. Speaking of the Chargers, um they add a name,
Speaker 1: they lose Tyrrell. They get a Tyrod, you better call Tyrod.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't work. That's a deep cut. That's like
Speaker 1: the My Morning Jacket version rap sheet reported Wednesday to
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor or Tarad. I don't want to talk about
Speaker 1: that again. Agreed to a two year contract with the Chargers.
Speaker 1: The team intermated the news official and I just realized something, Gerg,
Speaker 1: I assume this is the only reason it was in
Speaker 1: the show. Oh, Gurg, where's Gino? Because Gino couldn't even
Speaker 1: hold out to a number two job in l A. Well,
Speaker 1: he's on the street. He did hold on to it,
Speaker 1: and he completed the season. He has more playoff victories. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know then many franchises to decade. And I asked
Speaker 1: a question, have you accepted this, that this is a
Speaker 1: bit now or are you just like really still believing
Speaker 1: in he knows in the league he's gonna be back.
Speaker 1: Not right now, right at the moment. You famously believe
Speaker 1: he's like a top thirty quarterback. He hasn't had a
Speaker 1: he hasn't had another chance really to prove it. But
Speaker 1: I play, but I do think that people that know
Speaker 1: quarterbacks well, they keep giving him contract he will be.
Speaker 1: He will be seventh and m v p uh rankings
Speaker 1: for the XFL on about three years. I'll give you that.
Speaker 1: I mean, to answer your question, West, I did give
Speaker 1: up on trying to put him into the top one
Speaker 1: on one I think even a year ago. So hey,
Speaker 1: at least you like to defend likable guys one of
Speaker 1: the we sometimes we you know, life happy. Rod's an upgrade.
Speaker 1: I'll admit it. Thank you time Anthony Lynn worked with him,
Speaker 1: and I mean, he knows who he is. At least
Speaker 1: life happens and things keep moving and you forget about it.
Speaker 1: But never forget that Juno Smith was a starting quarterback
Speaker 1: and over a three plane ticket, one of his own
Speaker 1: team teammates punched him out in his locker room and
Speaker 1: brokesh jaw. That is a thing that happened. That's just
Speaker 1: still a thing that happened, and it will never have
Speaker 1: not happened. That was also liable like moment in his career,
Speaker 1: But for me, it was over the minute that he
Speaker 1: walked out after being drafted in a white sweater. I've
Speaker 1: never really he got He got Rex another year by
Speaker 1: helping them win those games, including down in Miami at
Speaker 1: the end of the for a game run, for a
Speaker 1: game run. And this was just for you, Greg, A
Speaker 1: real grinder. You love it. Darryl Williams sticking around in Caroline.
Speaker 1: He signs a one year a contract where seven million.
Speaker 1: So the tackle sticks around at Charlotte to protect big
Speaker 1: just for me. I don't know. You said you wanted
Speaker 1: to talk about it. No I did. I just said
Speaker 1: that was I was just literally I actually said, we
Speaker 1: don't need to do this. And here's just the information
Speaker 1: for you guys were sitting here. It wasn't top twenty
Speaker 1: guy in our uh free agent lists. I think teams
Speaker 1: were a little afraid coming off a big time injury.
Speaker 1: All right, that's what's happening in the news. As promised.
Speaker 1: We had a really nice conversation with a future Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer. And when we do that, we like to
Speaker 1: amplify it. That's a that's a term that's used in
Speaker 1: content generation. Let's hear it right now. One quick note.
Speaker 1: I mean this will be thrown out there on video too.
Speaker 1: I would I would click into the video to take
Speaker 1: a look at where Joe Thomas is at From the
Speaker 1: physique angle. He was sort of shockingly uh and ruggedly built,
Speaker 1: am I wrong about that. Now he's in good shape physically,
Speaker 1: and you'll have a chance to check it out. I didn't.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to it there. He is very
Speaker 1: exciting to be joined by the greatest Brown since Jim Brown.
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas iron Man left tackle of the Cleveland Browns
Speaker 1: an amazing eleven year career, and now you're joining us here.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. I love the studio, man, and
Speaker 1: thanks for having me off. This is great. We built
Speaker 1: this for you, Joe. Yeah, when we have a future
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer in the building, we build it for you.
Speaker 1: That we were just talking about when you when you
Speaker 1: just came on, when you sat down, you're getting used
Speaker 1: to this body. You're nice and slimmed down now, totally different.
Speaker 1: I feel a little better in these chairs these days.
Speaker 1: It's kind of nice. Yeah, I'm sure I did notice
Speaker 1: the difference. Like when you said hi to all of us.
Speaker 1: You know, you shake Dan nice hand. It's nice to
Speaker 1: meet you. You had to give Mark Sessler a hunt
Speaker 1: like you've never met, but you know of his Browns
Speaker 1: fandom just by reputation history. He came on the Tomahawk podcast.
Speaker 1: We enjoyed ourselves, you know, we get to have the
Speaker 1: mutual Browns love, so Browns fans, they get each other.
Speaker 1: I think, hight listen. I mean, I'm just I'm trying
Speaker 1: to breathe here steadily because having a long time coming.
Speaker 1: But we we spent that show breaking down other teams
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Maybe it'll be different. This isn't it?
Speaker 1: And it's such a special time. I mean, when's the
Speaker 1: last time. And the Browns have been trending upward, Let's
Speaker 1: face it, since the day Baker Mayfield got drafted, and
Speaker 1: now what happens with the Odell Beckham trade. Things have
Speaker 1: gone overdrive now. And it went from you know, the
Speaker 1: Browns could be frisky, the Browns could be an af
Speaker 1: C North contender. Now people are talking about an a
Speaker 1: f C contender. A lot has changed since you stepped
Speaker 1: off the field, Joe Thomas. That's easy to say. I
Speaker 1: mean when I was there my last year, they had
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, which is like the cornerstone of that defense.
Speaker 1: But then the year after to pick up Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: and Denzel Ward and then now O b J and
Speaker 1: and just the way John Dorsey has transformed that roster,
Speaker 1: it's pretty impressive just to look on paper. Wow, that's
Speaker 1: a lot of talent, and that's a lot of young talent.
Speaker 1: They're a part of you because that news broke as
Speaker 1: you are on TV. Let's check that out. By the way,
Speaker 1: let's see what that looked like. When Joe Thomas found
Speaker 1: out one of the greatest wide receivers are less played
Speaker 1: five years, it's coming to the Cleveland Browns, I felt like,
Speaker 1: you know the ladies when they're in pregnancy and they're
Speaker 1: had given birth and they've given like the brown paper
Speaker 1: bag that you have to read, don't pass out. That's
Speaker 1: what I felt like, because I had just talked that morning,
Speaker 1: uh to some of the local radio and said, there's
Speaker 1: no way the Giants are getting rid of O b J.
Speaker 1: And I just wouldn't let myself believe it. It was
Speaker 1: like the kid on Christmas morning. I was trying to
Speaker 1: manage my expectations, expecting it to be socks under the
Speaker 1: Christmas tree, and then I opened it up and it
Speaker 1: was like the coolest boombox of all time. You're one
Speaker 1: of the greatest Browns ever. You're you're not that far
Speaker 1: removed from the game. Are you plugged in enough where
Speaker 1: you were maybe hearing things that other people were that
Speaker 1: this could be in play. Not really. And I've got
Speaker 1: a lot of friends in the organization still, and I
Speaker 1: chat with those guys all the time, but I try
Speaker 1: to keep our relationship mostly friendship based, so it's not
Speaker 1: just me trying to pull information from them. You're now
Speaker 1: in the media. I would get that. I do wonder
Speaker 1: because it's your run with the Browns. You almost went
Speaker 1: to the playoffs that first year in two thousand seven,
Speaker 1: and then there was a long streak of darkness. Do
Speaker 1: you ever feel kind of like almost Moses that led
Speaker 1: this team to what now seems like the promised Land,
Speaker 1: but you're not able to go with them on the field.
Speaker 1: Is there a little bit of frustration on that front? Honestly,
Speaker 1: I haven't let my mind except the fact yet that
Speaker 1: I'm not a part of the team anymore. I think
Speaker 1: because I feel like now, as a player, you have
Speaker 1: to be really guarded and you have to manage your
Speaker 1: expectations and you have to always say the right things.
Speaker 1: But now I can just be excited to be a
Speaker 1: fan and just be over the top when something cool
Speaker 1: like this happens. Is there part of you in that
Speaker 1: moment you're on NFL Network Live. You're like thinking to yourself,
Speaker 1: like how much of a media member do I want
Speaker 1: to be or how much how much excited do I
Speaker 1: just want to know? It's it's hard and when you're
Speaker 1: in that situation, and I don't think the NFL Network
Speaker 1: would want me to be stone faced about it, because
Speaker 1: this is an exciting time for the Browns. This is
Speaker 1: an organization that's had a lot of hardship since they
Speaker 1: came back in and they're one of the great franchises
Speaker 1: in the NFL. And to finally have that turnaround happening
Speaker 1: right now, and to see it accelerating each offseason with
Speaker 1: these incredible moves that John Dorsey has been making it
Speaker 1: so cool. Well, with that in mind, let's check out
Speaker 1: another tweet from our colleague and Siciliano. Hey, Joe, how cooking?
Speaker 1: And you put the weight back on? What do you say?
Speaker 1: I mean? Is it even a possibility that it never
Speaker 1: crossed your mind in the past? You know, twelve fifty months,
Speaker 1: I would love to be part of a championship run.
Speaker 1: But if I had anything left in my knees, I
Speaker 1: would have played last year. The reason I retired had
Speaker 1: nothing to do with me being sick of losing, or
Speaker 1: sick of turnover, or that I didn't love the game anymore.
Speaker 1: I love the game just as much when I walked out,
Speaker 1: if not more than when I first walked into the
Speaker 1: door and Cleveland in two thousand and seven. I love
Speaker 1: the locker room, I love the preparation. Everything about it
Speaker 1: was great. But when your body gives up on you,
Speaker 1: there's really nothing less you. Yeah, I mean it was easy.
Speaker 1: How surreal is it that the Browns are in some
Speaker 1: ways America's team right now? I mean, the Cowboys still
Speaker 1: have the title, but people this country is rooting for Cleveland.
Speaker 1: They've been rooting for Cleveland when they were coming off
Speaker 1: oh and sixteen, and now the band wagons starting to
Speaker 1: flo seems a little uncomfortable with the people now jumping,
Speaker 1: and I get that. Listen, if you've been there, you've
Speaker 1: been there. Now suddenly everyone's a place. If as a jetman,
Speaker 1: if the same thing happened with jet people jumping on
Speaker 1: the jets Ban Wagan, I'd be like, stay off. You
Speaker 1: don't deserve this. I earned this. How surreal is it
Speaker 1: that the Browns get this much love now from the
Speaker 1: country At the years of derision, yeah, I'm excited that
Speaker 1: the Browns are sort of the center of the NFL
Speaker 1: universe right now and hopefully for the future. True, but
Speaker 1: it is funny because there is going to be some
Speaker 1: of that amongst fans, Like well, I went through the
Speaker 1: O N six team, I stuck with the team. All
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're coming out of the woodwork now
Speaker 1: that they're good and they've got this fun team with
Speaker 1: all these great personalities. So I'm sure that's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Let's hope it happens, because that means they've had a
Speaker 1: great season. You should be the bouncer. I'd be happy
Speaker 1: to be the bout I'll throw a few people out.
Speaker 1: I've always said that if the Browns in my lifetime
Speaker 1: ever won the Super Bowl, and there were, there was
Speaker 1: a period there where I thought, it's not happening, even
Speaker 1: if I live for another thirty years, they won't. But
Speaker 1: if it happens, I don't care how old I am.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna in systematically burn down like eight cars on
Speaker 1: my street and let's start throwing shares all over the place.
Speaker 1: What would your response be? Would it be stoic when
Speaker 1: you go nuts? You know, I haven't let myself put
Speaker 1: myself into that shoe as yet of what it would
Speaker 1: feel like when the Browns win a Super Bowl. But
Speaker 1: I remember when I was twelve years old. I was
Speaker 1: a Packer fan growing up in Wisconsin, and Brett Farve
Speaker 1: wins their Super Bowl and ninety six I think it was,
Speaker 1: and it was like ten below zero in Wisconsin. I
Speaker 1: ran outside. I ripped my shirt off as a twelve
Speaker 1: year old kid, and I was going around the street.
Speaker 1: So I'm sure it would be something like that. It
Speaker 1: would be like the j R. Smith all over again
Speaker 1: when I wouldn't put my shirt on for me. You
Speaker 1: have to give you a ring after all you've done well.
Speaker 1: It makes me growing up in New York, Don Mattingly
Speaker 1: the Yankees, he retired and then they started Dynasty immediately
Speaker 1: when Derek Jeter gets there. The fans, though, didn't forget Mattingly.
Speaker 1: He never got to the World Series. I feel like
Speaker 1: Browns fan, if a similar things situation played out, you
Speaker 1: would be just as beloved as all these guys that
Speaker 1: are winning titles of what ever happened, because you were
Speaker 1: there the fans. You're synonymous with that the pain that
Speaker 1: led to the greatness in a Way. Yeah, there was
Speaker 1: a lot of pain and hopefully there's some greatness coming up.
Speaker 1: But you know, Bronze fans are they're the best. We're
Speaker 1: not doing in the countries. Yeah when they win the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Now, the Browns fans are the best in
Speaker 1: the country, and they've shown me nothing but love even
Speaker 1: through all those really hard times. And I'm forever grateful
Speaker 1: it's a Brown city because I know what happened with
Speaker 1: the Calves and that was a nice bomb during the
Speaker 1: really dark ages for Cleveland's football team. But I remember
Speaker 1: back in the eighties when it was Marty Schottenheimer there
Speaker 1: and Bernie Kozar, and that stadium was always talked about
Speaker 1: outside next to the Broncos as the loudest, toughest place
Speaker 1: to play. Fans were throwing batteries at John Elway. I
Speaker 1: mean it has there's not been an opportunity for that.
Speaker 1: They were getting wild even when it started hearing five early,
Speaker 1: like they were going crazy. It's gonna be a bananas
Speaker 1: their opening day because they can feel that excitement building
Speaker 1: in the off season. Last offseason, everyone was excited because
Speaker 1: of what they did in the draft. And you have
Speaker 1: this rookie, but you don't really know when the turnaround
Speaker 1: is gonna happen. You don't know how good the rookie
Speaker 1: is going to be. And so this year, with the
Speaker 1: excitement building through the off season, is going to be crazy.
Speaker 1: And Nodell Beckham is pure electricity. Even on these more
Speaker 1: abun Giants teams in recent year, he was they that
Speaker 1: made them primetime TV. Like, he's gonna turn the Browns
Speaker 1: into an offense that we've never seen in Cleve Well.
Speaker 1: He's one of the icons of the NFL, probably of
Speaker 1: all time. And to be able to be part of
Speaker 1: this Brown's resurgen franchise and when they win the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl with him, I mean, can you imagine the legacy
Speaker 1: that these guys are confident we should do. Remember what
Speaker 1: the Lebron's side with the heat is like, we're not
Speaker 1: gonna win one title, We're not gonna win two, We're
Speaker 1: not gonna maybe we can get that go just it's
Speaker 1: like a football head though, aren't you kind of excited
Speaker 1: to see what Freddie Kitchens is gonna do with all
Speaker 1: of these pieces because it's not just Odell Beckham, and
Speaker 1: it's the running Game, it's Jarvis Landry, it's in Joku
Speaker 1: like kind of what are you expecting to see out
Speaker 1: of this offense? Yeah, well, from an x is in
Speaker 1: an O standpoint, Odell Beckham was sort of the missing
Speaker 1: link on that offense because they had Jarvis Landry, who's
Speaker 1: more of your possession underneath type guy. He catches a
Speaker 1: lot of balls, but he's not the down the field threat.
Speaker 1: But now you have O B J. Baker can throw it.
Speaker 1: He's got an arm. So you got ob J gon d,
Speaker 1: you got Jarvis underneath. That's really a difficult thing for
Speaker 1: a defense to handle. From a coverage standpoint, how do
Speaker 1: you cover both those guys because you can't take away
Speaker 1: both of them at the same time. And now they
Speaker 1: have some other weapons too, obviously, the addition of Kareem Haunt.
Speaker 1: You got Nick Chubb in the backfield, David and Joke
Speaker 1: who's coming into his own. It's a lot of weapons
Speaker 1: for a guy like Freddie Kitchens to be able to
Speaker 1: sit there in the off season and salivate in those
Speaker 1: meeting rooms before we say goodbye for a decade, Joe
Speaker 1: was a beacon of greatness for the Cleveland Brown So Mark,
Speaker 1: you have anything you need to say to Joe before
Speaker 1: he leaves us here on the around the NFL Twitter chat.
Speaker 1: Is this I mean you're you're a future Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1: You you know you went to work every day and
Speaker 1: miss didn't miss a snap forever and ever. This right
Speaker 1: now though, sitting here with the three of us, is
Speaker 1: this really when you search your heart a high point
Speaker 1: career wise, if it's not the highest, it's definitely tied. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll take that like from like tied with that moment
Speaker 1: where and we didn't couldn't get out from underneath. Yes,
Speaker 1: that moment that that moment of me snapping might try
Speaker 1: setting laying on the field there, all right, Well those
Speaker 1: days agone. It's a new era now when you talk
Speaker 1: about the Browns, it's all good things. Joe Thomas, thank
Speaker 1: you for joining us, and please come back again when
Speaker 1: after the first title, maybe the third title, whenever you have. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll be back after the third or fourth title. Will
Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. Thanks guys for having me.
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas. There you go, Joe Thomas, Mark Sessler beaming.
Speaker 1: I took a photo mark with you and this spelt
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas. Afterwards he looked like a like a tiny
Speaker 1: child made him as as Greg said that that man
Speaker 1: during his playing days was the prototypical left tackle build.
Speaker 1: So there's nothing to be ashamed of. He's six six,
Speaker 1: he's in much better shape now, I mean really in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways than he was as a as
Speaker 1: a player. There's a part of me that really wanted
Speaker 1: him to come back to the Browns and play left
Speaker 1: tackle for two as we heard his knees or shot
Speaker 1: his body would not cooperate. All right, that's it for
Speaker 1: today's show. Again, Mark, it's a new day. It's a
Speaker 1: new day. I'm willing to, uh, you know, feel happier
Speaker 1: than in the past. I'm going to give it. You
Speaker 1: know what. I know you so well Mark that sometimes
Speaker 1: good things have happened with the Browns. And I remember
Speaker 1: in fact draft day, um, not the film now, you
Speaker 1: were not happy about that. Um, when Baker Mayfield is drafted,
Speaker 1: you weren't willing to release yourself in a way. Um.
Speaker 1: But I sense with this Beckham move that you are
Speaker 1: embracing the beauty of the Browns being reborn as a franchise,
Speaker 1: not just on the rise, but a franchise that has arrived. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I have equal concerns that at some point, like in
Speaker 1: early September, the team bus is going to roll off
Speaker 1: a bridge and this roster will be lost for all time.
Speaker 1: But assuming that doesn't happen, it should be fun times ahead.
Speaker 1: That's how I think up on the Dark Lake. That's
Speaker 1: how I think about these things, all right, But a
Speaker 1: good day for the Browns and jatz Marks and we
Speaker 1: and we deserve those. We'll be back on Friday. Uh.
Speaker 1: Like I said, we'll do some over unders how these
Speaker 1: players will fair in new locations, some final thoughts on
Speaker 1: free agency, and then any other news, because there are
Speaker 1: greg a lot more players, good players, maybe not the
Speaker 1: top tier guys, but guys that will make a big
Speaker 1: difference on teams in twenty nineteen that currently are unemployed.
Speaker 1: I think where there's eleven of our top forty are
Speaker 1: still available, and but then you're getting more into the
Speaker 1: middle tier. The bargains and this word, teams get done,
Speaker 1: and I think it's good to have a good GM
Speaker 1: we've seen in past years, though, you know, we we
Speaker 1: should just be ready for an emergency pod we've seen
Speaker 1: in past years. In these days that's where some trades
Speaker 1: that you just had no idea was coming have happened.
Speaker 1: I picked a lower octane news lineup and if and
Speaker 1: if something breaks, If news breaks, the heroes will be
Speaker 1: in the studio creating more content to amplify and all
Speaker 1: social media channels. That's it. Get their act together. Instagram
Speaker 1: is van Hans Sessler's got a picture of Joe Thomas
Speaker 1: ready to change Instagram. Quiet Storm, the Mailman, the Old Boss,
Speaker 1: and Ken out doing the damn thing behind the glass.
Speaker 1: Sign him, Tell Friday m HM