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Speaker 1: take off. Welcome to another edition of the Around the
Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis, and I'm joined
Speaker 1: in a room filled with heroes Mark Sessler, Chris Wesley,
Speaker 1: and Gregg Rose with all what is up? Boys? Hey? Dan?
Speaker 1: M M. Friday. We've made it to the end of
Speaker 1: the yellow brick road. Mark, It's a new day. Is
Speaker 1: it starting to sink in a little bit more? Uh?
Speaker 1: Is what's starting to sink in? Are you serious well
Speaker 1: that we're gonna be covering the Browns at the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: The Browns? Where is it? Miami? So it's like Browns,
Speaker 1: It's like the playoff field is set with the Browns
Speaker 1: and eleven other teams. It is starting to sink in.
Speaker 1: But I want to after I want to make it
Speaker 1: very clear that if the Browns make the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: I will not be working that day. I will be there,
Speaker 1: but I will be a I will be a human being,
Speaker 1: running full speed ahead in the stands, doing what I
Speaker 1: want to do. Right. I mean, it seems comical the
Speaker 1: thought of the Jets being in the Super Bowl, But
Speaker 1: if if that ever happened, I'm already on record, I'm
Speaker 1: not working either. I would do a cameo on the
Speaker 1: show if they won. Yeah, can we call you? Yes? No,
Speaker 1: there would be absolutely that, But I did not appear
Speaker 1: in the an event of a loss. But this is
Speaker 1: all great problems. The idea of oh, the Browns losing
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? What a what a horrible thing that
Speaker 1: would be? That mean you made the big game? Say
Speaker 1: that that's giving up on you know, your team, not
Speaker 1: the Jets, are the Browns, but the team in this
Speaker 1: room in what could be like the most rewarding moment
Speaker 1: for the listener. I mean I definitely would rather be
Speaker 1: cramped in one of those auxiliary press boxes where you
Speaker 1: can't move your knees. They give you like a ham
Speaker 1: sandwich wrapped in plastic in a stale cookie, instead of
Speaker 1: enjoying the full experience that I've waited forty plus years
Speaker 1: to enjoy. It's made as a Patrons fan, Greg. The
Speaker 1: idea of the Patriots being insuscerabwl isn't even special at
Speaker 1: this point. The idea the Browns or the Jets, that's
Speaker 1: almost like it's impossible. I had to do. Ben't sing
Speaker 1: three on each side? Now if they made a second
Speaker 1: I would, I would go back to my media duties.
Speaker 1: If the Bengals make the Super Bowl, you back in?
Speaker 1: Would you get back in? Laughing? You don't think that,
Speaker 1: Bobby Heart Uh John Miller Combo is going to pre
Speaker 1: Let's let's start with winning a playoff game first. Um ah,
Speaker 1: gun rack. There's a couple of things real quick. One
Speaker 1: to hit. Number one related to Odell Beckham going to
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns and the blockbuster trade of the year
Speaker 1: maybe the decade. Um. A person on Twitter reminded me
Speaker 1: of this, and I wish I remember their handle. But
Speaker 1: you know who you are. Jake Glazer nailed it, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: in his mail bag, and we were, let's face it,
Speaker 1: we were dismissive of it. You were we We were
Speaker 1: in it all in facts editing. I was trying to
Speaker 1: save you. You You were the one that said, let's not
Speaker 1: talk about this anymore. I was trying to be I
Speaker 1: was using the royal we. I was saying, if Glaziers
Speaker 1: putting in there, it's it's I mean, Glazer is a
Speaker 1: little different. That's what I said. Different. Cat Well, I think, well,
Speaker 1: I'm the guilty party who said if you look at
Speaker 1: the context, he was just asked a question, right, And
Speaker 1: when we at the combine, when Gettleman made his infamous
Speaker 1: comment that we didn't sign Odell Beckham to trade him,
Speaker 1: we were all kind of exhausted and put a moratorium
Speaker 1: on talking about it anymore. It's right, but Jay Glazer
Speaker 1: in a mail bag, mark is right in a mail bag,
Speaker 1: tossed off that that could be a trade that would
Speaker 1: shock people. I mean part of it was, I think
Speaker 1: what Greg's referring to, because you do the mail bag
Speaker 1: here at NFL dot com, a little mail bag on
Speaker 1: mail bag heat, and I would just say, as a
Speaker 1: challenge to you, as a friendly challenge, you have a
Speaker 1: little bit of work to do in your next mail
Speaker 1: bag to get sort of back onto par with what
Speaker 1: It's the same way that Phil Simmons feels about hands us.
Speaker 1: He was like, I was the mail bag guy. Don't
Speaker 1: come on my corner. I don't like it. No Glazer
Speaker 1: forever has my respect in the mail bag game. After that. Uh.
Speaker 1: The other thing is we've talked about this on the podcast,
Speaker 1: and this is much far more esoteric, but that we
Speaker 1: had the big mural outside at NFL Media headquarters and
Speaker 1: we've been wondering for a long time. There's eight players
Speaker 1: on the wall, um and we were saying, who is
Speaker 1: gonna be the first guy? It's gonna mess up the mural?
Speaker 1: And J. J. Watt, Josh Norman, Aaron Rodgers, Von Miller,
Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski, Pat Peterson, Cam Newton and Antonio Brown bosses
Speaker 1: inside the build shot on a on a on a
Speaker 1: mural like place that it was never completed. It seems
Speaker 1: like it's a great question, Dan, because we are moving
Speaker 1: out of this building in two it's official. You can
Speaker 1: now go into a room in the NFL dot Com
Speaker 1: build waste office space where you can look at the
Speaker 1: plans for the building we're moving into. So do they
Speaker 1: even bother to fix it up? Are they they just
Speaker 1: like kind of do it like a cheap version where
Speaker 1: they just like right oak over the top of is like,
Speaker 1: like why even bother fixing a question? Money into that
Speaker 1: painter was here from months. You gotta get him back,
Speaker 1: all right, jer Goodell, tear down that wall. Politics nailed
Speaker 1: it for the political show, all right, save it for
Speaker 1: the glass nost show, big show coming up. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. What's glass lost? What
Speaker 1: wasn't it gorbage chows program to sort of like a
Speaker 1: post Soviet reclamation project. I could be totally wrong about that,
Speaker 1: but it was something like it was about the Berlin
Speaker 1: Wall though, but it was Gorba chof and post you know,
Speaker 1: iron curtain garbageof not getting a lot of pop these days,
Speaker 1: considering like the massive figure he was at the time,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like he's just been a
Speaker 1: little lost. Stuff has happened. Used to be a big,
Speaker 1: big all right, coming up on today's show. We talked
Speaker 1: about it on Wednesday that it was coming, so we'll
Speaker 1: do it at the end of the show. Some over
Speaker 1: unders for new uh players, uh players and new places,
Speaker 1: old faces, new places. Uh. But we got some more
Speaker 1: news to get to because this is the end of
Speaker 1: free agency week. It is winding down in terms of
Speaker 1: the hot and heavy action, but there's still important moves
Speaker 1: being made. So we're gonna go spend through it all.
Speaker 1: But we will start with a band another word for suspension.
Speaker 1: Let's get to the news. I know Dan han zeus
Speaker 1: Jets fan number one in our building from the Around
Speaker 1: the NFL podcast, was just crying at his desk. Shout
Speaker 1: out to Greg. I was not watching NFL network at
Speaker 1: the time, but in a live interview with Anthony Barr,
Speaker 1: uh the linebacker who agreed to join the Jets and
Speaker 1: went back to the Vikings, Sin said he was crying
Speaker 1: after he made the initials and um Andrew said that
Speaker 1: to Anthony Barr, which I speaking of sterk. I imagine
Speaker 1: Anthony Barr did not know what the hell that was. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: what was his response? He seemed confused but or a
Speaker 1: little uncomfortable by the whole interview, because I gotta say, Andrew,
Speaker 1: you know, pushed pretty hard on the whole decision, and uh,
Speaker 1: he felt bad. He said it was one of the
Speaker 1: worst days of his life. I think he ultimately wishes
Speaker 1: he could have just been celebrating this great new deal
Speaker 1: for the Vikings. But it's like there's all these awkward
Speaker 1: questions where he said he was literally kind of sick
Speaker 1: to him, like when he said it, he started getting
Speaker 1: the cold sweats and just felt like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I made this mistake. Also called the Jets. Had he
Speaker 1: gone to the Jets akin to marrying the wrong woman,
Speaker 1: which I found a little bit a little bit strong.
Speaker 1: We didn't need to that. They were willing to offer
Speaker 1: you a lot of money. You know, well, you know what,
Speaker 1: he made the right move. Though as annoying it as
Speaker 1: it was. Uh, if you were having second dots at
Speaker 1: that level, you go back to where you came. And
Speaker 1: like I said, and gar Folo on our UM Free
Speaker 1: Agency Live show this week, UM I asked him if
Speaker 1: the Jets signed Bar, would they have not gotten Levy
Speaker 1: on Bell? Gar Folo said that he thinks it's still
Speaker 1: would have happened. But there's no doubt that Bar spurning
Speaker 1: them and leaving all that money in their piggy bank
Speaker 1: led to the Jets kind of going harder after Bell.
Speaker 1: So I think it's okay in the end, I'm not
Speaker 1: upset about I did not cry, but it was a
Speaker 1: good bit. I mean, the only way to get paid
Speaker 1: is to threaten your current employer that you're gonna leave. Well,
Speaker 1: he's a rare guy, though, that took less money. I mean,
Speaker 1: in a lot of cases, that's I mean, I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't right now, you're right, but
Speaker 1: this is a rare case where he took less money.
Speaker 1: It doesn't happen too often in the NFL. And I
Speaker 1: don't think it was like the Vikings stepped up and
Speaker 1: gave him a great contract. But he you know, he
Speaker 1: took less night. Might have been the Greg Williams factor.
Speaker 1: You never know. All right, let's start with the band.
Speaker 1: The Browns um the former employer of Greg Williams. They
Speaker 1: know how long Kareem Hunt's going to be out. The
Speaker 1: running back UH is out eight games, violating the NFL
Speaker 1: Personal Conduct Policy. The league announced this on Friday. Hunt
Speaker 1: has accepted the punishment and does not plan to appeal. UH.
Speaker 1: He released a stat statement saying he apologizes for what happened.
Speaker 1: What did happen? The Chiefs cut him in late November
Speaker 1: after a video surface of the running back shoving and
Speaker 1: kicking a woman during a February two thousand eighteen incident
Speaker 1: at a Cleveland hotel. The message being put out by
Speaker 1: the Browns this whole time has been we're supporting Kareem,
Speaker 1: We're working with him toward a second chance. Well now
Speaker 1: we know when he comes back. Mark, when he does
Speaker 1: come back, if he could stay on the um, straight
Speaker 1: and narrow, he will be another big addition to that office.
Speaker 1: It's still feels to me like the one off note
Speaker 1: of what has been a big offseason for them, where
Speaker 1: I I get it that someone like Cream Hunt was
Speaker 1: going to get a chance somewhere, Um, because he's just
Speaker 1: talented enough. But you could have kept him out for
Speaker 1: the entire year and found out where he was personally
Speaker 1: next off season two. That would have been fine with me. Um.
Speaker 1: From the football side, there's been all this uh whispering
Speaker 1: is about Duke Johnson being openly available in a trade
Speaker 1: because he's the odd man out. If they do use
Speaker 1: Cream Hunt, I my question would be if it keeps,
Speaker 1: if it spurns them to keep him around, because then
Speaker 1: you're one injury away from having nothing in the backfield
Speaker 1: well and there, and it's a risk. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: scheduled for eight games. You would assume that's what it is.
Speaker 1: But the Browns have been through this in a in
Speaker 1: a very different circumstance where you never you never know
Speaker 1: because this wasn't for one incident. That's why it wasn't
Speaker 1: six games. It was for two incidents. The NFL made
Speaker 1: that clear. And you're right, it is the one off
Speaker 1: note because this whole time, it's kind of awkward. This
Speaker 1: week when everyone's like and everyone's gonna be so excited
Speaker 1: for this Brown's off and Sodell Beckham. You know David
Speaker 1: and Joki Kareem Hunt, and it's just like like it
Speaker 1: doesn't feel something strange about just kind of throwing Hunt
Speaker 1: into that mix right now. They could have I think
Speaker 1: the end all NFL teams could have waited for this
Speaker 1: suspension to go down, but the Browns couldn't wait to
Speaker 1: sign him. They started this automatic six week thing a
Speaker 1: few years ago, and we're still getting six weeks suspensions.
Speaker 1: To me, that's not enough of a deterrent. The rate
Speaker 1: should be zero percent. Make it a full year suspension.
Speaker 1: I think I like that. Let's move on Teddy Bridgewater.
Speaker 1: On our Wednesday show, we talked about it. He uh
Speaker 1: looked like he was going back to the Saints. James later,
Speaker 1: our own Jane's Leader reported that it was going to
Speaker 1: happen and the deal was in place. Uh. Teddy got
Speaker 1: cold feet. He met with the Dolphins, but at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, he ends up sticking with New
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints, who signed the quarterback to a one year
Speaker 1: deal worth seven to seven point to five million, fully guaranteed.
Speaker 1: Rap Sheet reported uh maximum value of twelve five. Uh.
Speaker 1: You would imagine he'd have to get on the field
Speaker 1: and play a lot in which would mean a Drew
Speaker 1: Brees injury, but seven point to five guaranteed as a
Speaker 1: backup is very good money. Bridgewater remains. I suppose uh
Speaker 1: the next in line New Orleans potentially if Drew Brees
Speaker 1: walks away, he is forty years old. Mark Ultimately is
Speaker 1: this a good signing for the Saints. Well, I've talked
Speaker 1: about my feelings. I mean, I think Wes Ultimately uh
Speaker 1: is correct on how he felt. Teddy Bridgewater viewed the
Speaker 1: situation that it was a better way to keep his
Speaker 1: career moving in an upward trajrectory, to be with a
Speaker 1: team where he had a very good experience there and
Speaker 1: to continue I'll say one more time that it would
Speaker 1: I would rather see a player get back on the
Speaker 1: field and play together have a better chance to the
Speaker 1: long term contract. But the Dolphins are a weird uh
Speaker 1: landing spot. So I totally think Teddy did what was
Speaker 1: right for him, and the Saints are a great situation
Speaker 1: if you have a chance to take over for Drew Brides.
Speaker 1: There was one thing out there. There were there was
Speaker 1: reports that Teddy Bridgewater was hesitant to sign with the
Speaker 1: Saints because of whispers that Sean Payton is basically tied
Speaker 1: up to take the Cowboys job next year. Uh, and
Speaker 1: it's a one year contract. I mean, the air apparent thinks, great,
Speaker 1: he's got a foot in the door. He can learn
Speaker 1: that system. But it's not like the Saints are like
Speaker 1: closing off their mind to drafting young quarterbacks. I don't
Speaker 1: think because Teddy Bridgewater is there. The most fascinating thing
Speaker 1: to me, though, is what's Wrian Tannehill doing? Because Teddy
Speaker 1: Bridgewater said he would. There was a report from ESPN
Speaker 1: he would have gone to Miami if they offered him
Speaker 1: quote unquote life changing money. Essentially, I would bet starting right,
Speaker 1: so like start so that that's like a tanking tax, right.
Speaker 1: And so Ryan Tannehill still on the roster, and the
Speaker 1: Miami Herald reported way back in December they're not keeping him.
Speaker 1: I think Ryan Tannehill is the most likely guy now
Speaker 1: to be the Week one starting quarterback. I did check
Speaker 1: with our insiders on did you get an apology? Country?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think so, because at this point,
Speaker 1: if you cut him, you're eating like thirteen million dollars
Speaker 1: in dead money. Anyways, And yeah, he's gonna be on
Speaker 1: your tax, for on your cap, for a lot. But
Speaker 1: it's like, at this point, would you rather cut Ryan Tannehill,
Speaker 1: eat a bunch of dead money and start Blake Bordles
Speaker 1: or just like keep Tannehill because relationship at this point,
Speaker 1: I you wonder if it's fractured and they need a
Speaker 1: fresh start. But he's on the roster, so that tells
Speaker 1: me there that they're considering it. It's an option. He's
Speaker 1: not Listen, Ryan Tannhill is not a terrible quarterback. And
Speaker 1: if he's a and he's a perfectly fun bridge guy,
Speaker 1: in fact, probably maybe the best in the league if
Speaker 1: you're looking at that time. I'd rather have Ryan Tannehill
Speaker 1: than Eli Manning as a bridge guy to a rookie.
Speaker 1: So it makes sense. It just matter. It's just a
Speaker 1: question of whether the new coaching staff wants Tannehill in
Speaker 1: the build. And but one thing is I read, you know,
Speaker 1: think about oh, the seventh year quarterback is about us? Like, wait,
Speaker 1: he's not been in the league for seven years? Said
Speaker 1: yes he has. And I thought, name one memorable Ryan
Speaker 1: Tannehill moment that would lead his highlight film. I cannot
Speaker 1: think of one. The way I used to feel about
Speaker 1: Stamp probably had the Miami miracle. It's not that is
Speaker 1: not a miracle. He's Kenyan, but he was on the
Speaker 1: field for that, right, But he's not. But he's he
Speaker 1: What did he do? I remember this game is rookie
Speaker 1: Air against I remember this game is rookie Air against
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. And I think I've held onto this
Speaker 1: memory for way too long where it was like he
Speaker 1: went up and down the field with like a Nick
Speaker 1: Foles Super Bowl type performance, not on a great Cardinals team,
Speaker 1: and I was like, Wow, Ryan Tannehill is the future.
Speaker 1: So that's my moment. My memory is five years worth
Speaker 1: of Dolphins fans telling me he was better than Andrew Luck.
Speaker 1: That wasn't alright. Moving on, that's a thirty one. He
Speaker 1: came into the league kind of old. Moving on, The
Speaker 1: Giants have their Odell Beckham Jr. Replacement. Oh, poor Giants fans.
Speaker 1: That's a real thing we're talking about right now. And
Speaker 1: it's Golden Tate who signs a four year, thirty seven
Speaker 1: and a half million dollar deal to only three million
Speaker 1: fully guaranteed rap sheet reported. According to West and Greg's List,
Speaker 1: this was the top wide out on the available free
Speaker 1: agent list. Uh, and last year he split between Detroit
Speaker 1: and Philly. He was a production machine with the Lions.
Speaker 1: He got moved to phil He kind of disappeared in
Speaker 1: that offense. Had a big touchdown in the playoffs, but
Speaker 1: other than that did not really make the impact. Uh.
Speaker 1: The Giants now Greg bring in a receiver at thirty
Speaker 1: years old. Uh. It doesn't seem to fit in with
Speaker 1: where this franchise is headed, but it does add somebody,
Speaker 1: and they didn't need somebody with Sterling Shepherd. I I
Speaker 1: don't understand all the criticism the Giants took for this
Speaker 1: particular deal, like it, I get it, but everyone immediately
Speaker 1: was like, what's the planner? What? They're not tanking? First
Speaker 1: of all, if you thought they were tanking, you're not
Speaker 1: paying attention. No one almost no one tanks. They're trying
Speaker 1: to win. This was a wide receiver who we had
Speaker 1: ranked number one. The contracts like a little more than
Speaker 1: I expected at this in free agency, but it's not
Speaker 1: much more than Adam Humphries or Jamison Crowder. I think
Speaker 1: you can criticize a million other parts of this process
Speaker 1: and other moves that they've made, but they do have
Speaker 1: a pretty decent group of weapons. I mean Golden Tate,
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram, Sae Kwon, Barkley, Sterling Shepherd is a nice
Speaker 1: group of weapons. Whether whether I know, you know, if
Speaker 1: you want to be a hater to get Dave Gottleman,
Speaker 1: I totally get it. But this contract to me makes
Speaker 1: them better. I got no doubt with it. So they
Speaker 1: totally conceded outside the numbers in downfield to Eli Manning's
Speaker 1: arm right now, you would love, you would love to
Speaker 1: have a vertical threat. Yes they're they're only proven receivers
Speaker 1: or slot receivers, right, but the Patriots have you know,
Speaker 1: kind of done that for for years. This I know,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, adding Golden Tate to me doesn't
Speaker 1: isn't a bad thing, I I would, you know, on
Speaker 1: its own, it's fine, you know, And and had the
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham thing that happened, and you add someone like
Speaker 1: Golden Tate even more so. But it's it's more like
Speaker 1: the pr mess that the Giants can't get to navigate
Speaker 1: for the first time in their franchise history three years running,
Speaker 1: where it's just another thing that when you put the
Speaker 1: whole ugly soup together, Giants fans are like, why am
Speaker 1: I excited about next season or any season we'll get
Speaker 1: Himan's desperate to be right, you know, they're desperate to
Speaker 1: win nine Like I think this is a team that's
Speaker 1: hoping they can somehow find a way to nine wins.
Speaker 1: No one thinks they're winning a super Bowl. But he
Speaker 1: loved for Eli Manning to have a decent enough season
Speaker 1: and he's got a good enough players around him out
Speaker 1: That is a horrendous plan. Hoping for nine wins with
Speaker 1: an ugly, ugly expansion roster. It's a bad week to
Speaker 1: be a Giants fan. Uh. Speaking of Dave gettleman Um,
Speaker 1: he made a big move back in his Panther's day
Speaker 1: days to bring in Matt Khalil. Uh I signed a
Speaker 1: five year, fifty five million dollar contract. I think it
Speaker 1: was one of the last big deals get him on
Speaker 1: handed out Panthers days. It didn't work out at all.
Speaker 1: Uh And after spending the entire seasoneen on I r
Speaker 1: with a knee injury. Uh Khalil, the left tackle was
Speaker 1: released rap sheet first report of the transaction. So he
Speaker 1: got he made a lot of money, did not do
Speaker 1: a lot and now he's on the Street and the
Speaker 1: Panthers still looking for help on the line. This was
Speaker 1: a bad signing Matt Khalil. What they get one year
Speaker 1: out of him and one bad year. That was one
Speaker 1: that everyone first guest, you know, because he was a
Speaker 1: pretty bad tackle in Minnesota overted the the tackle free
Speaker 1: agency situation hasn't really changed over the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: Offensive lineman just get insane money and free agency, and
Speaker 1: it seems like in most best case scenarios they're fine,
Speaker 1: and then in worst case scenarios there Matt Khalil, I mean,
Speaker 1: he was a disappointment with Minnesota. That's why it was
Speaker 1: first guest. He was I think a top five draft pick,
Speaker 1: was in that range when he came into the league,
Speaker 1: and immediately he didn't really play at that level. But
Speaker 1: sometimes I guess in this league, especially when you got
Speaker 1: that funny money, just the pedigree and maybe some good tape,
Speaker 1: you could talk yourself into, oh we can make this
Speaker 1: guy um a stud on the line. But in this
Speaker 1: case it did. They had line issues for a long
Speaker 1: time too. It's like they were one of those candidates
Speaker 1: to overspend, and like, I think it's just that where
Speaker 1: will football be in twenty years from now when you
Speaker 1: don't have like these farm fed, like gigantic people that
Speaker 1: want to play you. No. I just I just think that,
Speaker 1: like in general, the toughness factor of people is lowering,
Speaker 1: and that is going to impact someone that's asked to
Speaker 1: play through knee problems for twelve years and take hits
Speaker 1: from gigantic people versus becoming, um, you know, a hedge fund.
Speaker 1: So individual better this week though, Matt Parrotis and Darry
Speaker 1: Williams on the offensive line for pretty good cheap money.
Speaker 1: I think so in this era Mark where the rich,
Speaker 1: the elite our our Greece in the palms of people
Speaker 1: to get their idiot children into high level institutions, higher learning. Uh,
Speaker 1: this is the world you speak of. That it is
Speaker 1: a slice of the of the cake that I speak
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. The NFL has always drawn most
Speaker 1: of their players from different types of people. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's always been an opportunity to escape, uh, the life
Speaker 1: that you're growing up. That was true in the fifties, sixties, seventies,
Speaker 1: it's true today and there's more right, there's more inequality
Speaker 1: now than there's ever been. I'm not saying that my
Speaker 1: theory is rock solid. But it's just in general that
Speaker 1: I like your theory. I just think that offensive lineman
Speaker 1: seemed to be like on the college level and the
Speaker 1: pro level, it's hard and harder to find these people.
Speaker 1: Do you also believe that the children are using iPad
Speaker 1: type devices too often playing those video games into that
Speaker 1: heavy metal? Do we have no long heavy metals the
Speaker 1: iPad when like kids at five and six are using iPads,
Speaker 1: we have no long term study on what that becomes
Speaker 1: when they are get out there, push a sled, build
Speaker 1: your lower body right, getting the gym. I don't know
Speaker 1: want the gym. Just run around nature. It's not like
Speaker 1: you can get a paper round anymore. Right, Any five
Speaker 1: year olds that have iPads weren't generally the ones becoming
Speaker 1: offensive would have been the type to become offensive linemen
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Anyways, I don't know that is. That
Speaker 1: is as much of an assumption as every part of
Speaker 1: my arguments, and how dismissive Gregg's being of what I
Speaker 1: is a real thought provoking take on America. It's it's
Speaker 1: just more of a question than a fact. I'm asking
Speaker 1: a question. Will this Will football be changed by this
Speaker 1: utter lack of toughness in human beings in America. Moving on,
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles, He's got it tough in America. You know,
Speaker 1: got a job no more because with Nick Foles installed
Speaker 1: as the franchise quarterback in Duval County with the Jaguars,
Speaker 1: bortles tenure with Jacksonville's over, they officially part ways as
Speaker 1: the new league year kicked in and falls his contract
Speaker 1: became official. Of course, another high high draft pick once
Speaker 1: upon a time, third overall nearly got to the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl a couple of years ago, and it led to
Speaker 1: a um a terribly misguided contract extension last year at
Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin defended and said he doesn't regret and doesn't
Speaker 1: think he made a mistake the ELI this week, Tom,
Speaker 1: take these giants, executives and giants. It's bad. It's bad.
Speaker 1: You gotta take the l there. But Bortles hits the streets.
Speaker 1: So there is another, Uh, there's another option. If you're
Speaker 1: looking for a backup quarterback, West, does Bordles hold any
Speaker 1: value to you if you're looking for somebody to fill
Speaker 1: out a quarterback room. I think he's the perfect perfect
Speaker 1: quarterback for the Dolphins to start sixteen games. If you're
Speaker 1: organically tanking. Are we jumping in the fish tag? I
Speaker 1: would just say, Tom Ben, sign him up for that
Speaker 1: adventure sixteen games and see where you end up in
Speaker 1: next year's Draken we're jumping in the fish tank. Dude
Speaker 1: gets to stay in the same state. People like the
Speaker 1: income tax things people people do like people like to
Speaker 1: talk about the income tax for Starr. If you really
Speaker 1: are organic tanking, that what Blake Bortles is perfect though, Well,
Speaker 1: I mean you could just go you can cut Ryan
Speaker 1: Tannehill and just go with the rest of the depth
Speaker 1: chart you have right now that we're still there now
Speaker 1: David fails he actually I think Jake Roddick Luke. I
Speaker 1: am not maybe bring fails back. I'm just not doing
Speaker 1: it bringing fails back. Brock's a free agent too, by
Speaker 1: the way he's out there. I'd rather have Brock for
Speaker 1: sure than Bords. I could see. I could see this
Speaker 1: being a Ryan Fitzpatrick destination as well. This is going
Speaker 1: to sign somewhere. That's a nice I'm not saying he's
Speaker 1: he's coming off a nice year. Thinking about the NFL though,
Speaker 1: Like there's a decent chance you can stumble into seven wins.
Speaker 1: That's one of the things. I believe in most it's
Speaker 1: really not that hard to win five or six teams. Like,
Speaker 1: would it really stun you if the Dolphins somehow found
Speaker 1: a way to come in second in the a f
Speaker 1: C East. I mean, just like you just get a
Speaker 1: few things going your way. Flores turns out to be
Speaker 1: a great coach. It's like a nice year where you
Speaker 1: last achieve everything. They got so many breaks last year.
Speaker 1: Their problems they haven't they were they were much worse
Speaker 1: than they were seven and nine. They haven't been bad
Speaker 1: enough to go get that quarterback number one. Overall, they've
Speaker 1: always been this sort of six. They were a five
Speaker 1: and eleven team that went seven or nine last year,
Speaker 1: no doubt. So if that, I feel like five and
Speaker 1: eleven might be their ceiling this year. But you're right though,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's not a killer division outside the Paths
Speaker 1: even with the improvements, Uh, with the other teams. Jordy
Speaker 1: Nelson's done in Oakland one and done. The Raiders released
Speaker 1: Nelson on Thursday. Tom Pla Sera reported it. Uh. It
Speaker 1: comes less than three months after John Gruden said the
Speaker 1: White that would be back. They gave him a three
Speaker 1: point six million dollar bonus for salary cap purposes. Uh
Speaker 1: and and Greg, you were fired up on the Twitter
Speaker 1: about this one. I was. I did learn after the
Speaker 1: fact that that bonus was guaranteed as part of his contract.
Speaker 1: It was not reported. In fact, it was reported in
Speaker 1: an opposite fashion at the time last March and in
Speaker 1: December when this was reported, But people uncovered that money
Speaker 1: was guaranteed regardless. So that clarifies it to me. It
Speaker 1: makes a little more sense why you would cut him now.
Speaker 1: That said, it doesn't change the fact that it was
Speaker 1: an awful contract and that Gruden Uh was uh misguided
Speaker 1: by saying he's gonna be back, because you know, all
Speaker 1: the Raiders fans came in my mentions like, well, how
Speaker 1: did he know he was gonna get into a new Brown?
Speaker 1: He didn't know. This was unforeseen. It's not unforeseen that
Speaker 1: you wanted to upgrade from Jordy Nelson. You just went
Speaker 1: into free and See desperate to spend as much money
Speaker 1: as humanly possible at wide receiver, Antonio Brown, Tyrone Williams,
Speaker 1: even j J. Nelson. So it wasn't unforeseen. So you
Speaker 1: don't tell a guy that he's say that he's going
Speaker 1: to be back and talk about how Grady looked late
Speaker 1: in the season. If you're gonna go and and you
Speaker 1: don't sign him to that contract to begin with, we
Speaker 1: made fun of that contract. It goes back to the
Speaker 1: same thing I was saying on Wednesday, what with these
Speaker 1: gms and the coaches and all that. I could deal
Speaker 1: with the lives of a mission. That's part of the game.
Speaker 1: But when you say something straight up in this case,
Speaker 1: Jordy Neslon will be back three months later, you cut him,
Speaker 1: It's like you're wasting everybody's time. This Come on, keep
Speaker 1: it real. I mean Jordan's It's not a bad deal
Speaker 1: deal for Jordy Nelson. He just got this guaranteed money
Speaker 1: into two thousand nineteen. He go double dip sign another contract.
Speaker 1: How about with the Packers. I'm not saying Jordy Nelson
Speaker 1: can play anymore. He's thirty four years old, but Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers was annoyed that Jordy left without being consulted. The
Speaker 1: Packers certainly need to fill out a wide receiver depth chart.
Speaker 1: I wonder if it's potentially they've got a bunch of
Speaker 1: young guys that they seem to like. I don't know.
Speaker 1: For me, that's it's not Jason Witten, but it's a
Speaker 1: little bit too cute to bring Jordy Nelson back to Green.
Speaker 1: But he's friends with Aaron Rodgers, so who knows. Uh,
Speaker 1: John Elway has got things to say. I can't give
Speaker 1: John Elway the benefit of the dad anymore. I'm sorry, everybody,
Speaker 1: Broncos fans, and you get it. You understand because your
Speaker 1: patients has been tested more than anyone. But he he
Speaker 1: speaks with NFL Networks James Palmer, who's a good guy.
Speaker 1: I like JP. Yeah. I mean when you do the
Speaker 1: power rankings of if I'm going like, we're going to
Speaker 1: Phoenix next week, We're going to Phoenix next week for
Speaker 1: the UH and and it's gonna be nice. It's a
Speaker 1: nice hotel, very nice hotel, um and then there's the
Speaker 1: hotel lobby and everyone's there. I mean, you could you
Speaker 1: can name any NFL network talent just about their belly
Speaker 1: up at the bar talking eating. JP is high up
Speaker 1: on my list. If I'm going to bump into somebody
Speaker 1: at the bar and have a ten minute combo, JP
Speaker 1: is up there easy. I mean, he could be a positive.
Speaker 1: I will not tell you who I don't want to
Speaker 1: be belly up with that would be do you have
Speaker 1: people from our network that you that would be very
Speaker 1: low on the list for you? Do? I just didn't
Speaker 1: want you to release the whole power ranking. Well, no,
Speaker 1: that's a that's a May episode. Uh tune in, Ian Rappaport,
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna want to hear this. I'd say
Speaker 1: it's like a top three would be fine. That just
Speaker 1: don't go any deeper than that. I haven't been on
Speaker 1: the rap Sheet has Friends podcast yet supposed to do
Speaker 1: a home and Home I have not been invited yet.
Speaker 1: Don't hold your breath. J J. James Palmer is one
Speaker 1: of those guys you know, he's he's based in Denver.
Speaker 1: So it's a weird thing in this industry, in this building,
Speaker 1: especially if the Broncos are as relevant as possible, a
Speaker 1: little more airtime, a little more relevant for James Palmer.
Speaker 1: So he's in a tough spot here with el Way.
Speaker 1: He needs some of these Elway signings to work out
Speaker 1: because these Broncos teams the last couple of years not
Speaker 1: on the ring in his back pocket though he is.
Speaker 1: Also he doesn't actually attached to the Houston texts, but
Speaker 1: he has been He's had to spend to spend a
Speaker 1: lot of nons in case Keenum. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: and he's he's a good dad. So you know, if
Speaker 1: you could, if you're if you're given the Broncos the coverage,
Speaker 1: you don't have to leave home. You know. It's just
Speaker 1: like and everybody at Denver, James family, at James Palmer
Speaker 1: and Twitter. Let him know Dan thinks highly of him personally.
Speaker 1: It'll be fun alright anyway, So this is what happens.
Speaker 1: Palmer talks to Elway and l Wait tell Swans that
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco is quote just getting into his prime thirty
Speaker 1: four years old. Now there's one man in the in
Speaker 1: the studio, and it shocked me when this happened, when
Speaker 1: the trade went down. That is the biggest Joe Flacco
Speaker 1: fan in America right now, and it's Chris Westling West,
Speaker 1: do you believe what the GM is saying about the quarterback?
Speaker 1: I said something very similar at the time that I
Speaker 1: fully expect Joe Flacco to have one of the best
Speaker 1: seasons of his career and to enter a period where
Speaker 1: the next couple of years go better than the last few.
Speaker 1: Because when I saw him play last year, he was
Speaker 1: moving and throwing much more smoothly, much more athletically than
Speaker 1: he did in previous few years. I like the fit.
Speaker 1: I don't think he was surrounded by great talent in
Speaker 1: Baltimore the last couple of years on offense, and I
Speaker 1: have no I know, everyone likes to get their snark in,
Speaker 1: just like they did with Adrian Peterson and Amari Cooper
Speaker 1: and everything else has been decided at some time. But hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: I I do believe that Elway is onto something. One
Speaker 1: thing about Flacco that I liked watching his introductory press
Speaker 1: conference with the Broncos was he was very honest and
Speaker 1: he basically you know you when he was in that
Speaker 1: thing with Baltimore. You knew from the summer on that
Speaker 1: he was gonna be pressed by Lamar Jackson. There were issues.
Speaker 1: He basically acknowledged. It was one of the worst years
Speaker 1: of his entire life. He didn't want to sit on
Speaker 1: the bench. It wasn't like he was trying to be
Speaker 1: you know, Brett Favre Aaron Rodgers part two. But it
Speaker 1: was just like he to me, the change of scenery
Speaker 1: might really really be good for I hear us. My
Speaker 1: thing is his health because he played two he got
Speaker 1: a broken rib. Come on, no, I know, but he
Speaker 1: played two seasons with a really two two and a
Speaker 1: half seasons where he wasn't at games in almost every season, right,
Speaker 1: and he was so limited, and he talked about it
Speaker 1: that that he's I know, but that's just the thing
Speaker 1: that you would worry about happens. That's the X factor.
Speaker 1: And then sang the other X factor, Skanks could be
Speaker 1: a genius and could fix this terrible offensive line, or
Speaker 1: you know, Skanks could uh you know, go the way
Speaker 1: the last couple offensive I mean Rich Gangarrello, their offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator that I brought it up on this podcast that
Speaker 1: that was his nickname, according to Lay, I know, but
Speaker 1: you were just killing people for using Goody at the combine.
Speaker 1: Now you're using Skangs. Well that when you have a
Speaker 1: nickname as um, it is kind of gross to say
Speaker 1: as Skanks. I think you just say it, you know,
Speaker 1: would be better. This is I feel like this now
Speaker 1: I'm getting like deja vo. How about skank Skank? I
Speaker 1: thought gonna get this guy turned around. I think I
Speaker 1: threw Skan g out. There is not bad about skank
Speaker 1: Skanks a little he would appreciate that little hard edge
Speaker 1: for a nickname. I'm looking at his photo right now.
Speaker 1: I think it matches up pretty nice. No, that's not it.
Speaker 1: That's how I put down. It seems nice. I love
Speaker 1: James Palmer, moving on, k J Wright uh and the
Speaker 1: Seahawks staying in business together. Rap sheet reports two years
Speaker 1: worth up to fifteen and a half million dollars. Greg
Speaker 1: Bill say you're looking at the photo and you get it.
Speaker 1: That's Skank right there, Hey, skank, drop up this game
Speaker 1: plan sky shouting in that way inside the Broncos facility. Please,
Speaker 1: he skank. I want a good game plan around. Flacco
Speaker 1: right has spent his entire eight year career in Seattle. UH.
Speaker 1: He missed eleven games due to a knee injury in
Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen, but prior to that he was a
Speaker 1: tackling machine. We love tackling machines. Four straight seasons with
Speaker 1: a hundred plus tackles. West good move. I don't think
Speaker 1: anybody knows, because I don't think anybody knows what's going
Speaker 1: on with his knee. He returned returned at the end
Speaker 1: of last year. I couldn't really get a good gage
Speaker 1: on whether he was the same player, and I don't
Speaker 1: think he was quite as disruptive in those few games
Speaker 1: that he played at the end of the year, and
Speaker 1: he didn't get much attention on the free agent wire.
Speaker 1: Compliments Bobby Wagner, Well, and I think that's kind of
Speaker 1: the secret sauce for the Seahawks. They put pieces together
Speaker 1: that complement each other well and know their roles. I
Speaker 1: think the Seahawks Seahawks I see out there. I know
Speaker 1: you're quiet and free. They kind of do this quiet
Speaker 1: thing and free agency big. I don't like what they're doing.
Speaker 1: You know, they add these offensive line and they bring
Speaker 1: Fluker back. He got a Patty just taking a shot
Speaker 1: on him, Michael Kendricks. You know, maybe he'll go to jail,
Speaker 1: but if not, he's on the field. Their big offseason
Speaker 1: was last year, shedding and adding a bunch of young people.
Speaker 1: Moving on another player not going anywhere, Philip Door sets
Speaker 1: as a one year deal to remain with the Patriots.
Speaker 1: Um he had a nice season he had. He was
Speaker 1: a part of that offense last year, but apparently not
Speaker 1: a big market was waiting for him in free agency,
Speaker 1: so he just sticks around in New England. I don't
Speaker 1: see any money. Greg is just go back to year old.
Speaker 1: It's a deal that no one's proud of. Who's what's that?
Speaker 1: I don't know. You said, like when you don't see
Speaker 1: money being that, no one's proud of the deal. So
Speaker 1: that's why. Yeah, that's I mean, I think it's safe
Speaker 1: to save their sets, not getting you know, paid too
Speaker 1: much money and we're in the world or Devin Funch
Speaker 1: has just got fourteen million for one year. I mean
Speaker 1: Dorsa had had like two yards. But he will always
Speaker 1: be the guy who caught Uh to me, the key
Speaker 1: touchdown in the a f C Championship to lead them
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. It's just I think there are
Speaker 1: sets worth bringing up, just because to bring up the
Speaker 1: Patriots week, which I think Patriots fans are frustrated with.
Speaker 1: You would think they would be over this by now
Speaker 1: because this is kind of what the Patriots do. The
Speaker 1: Patriots did want a slot receiver, though, and I think
Speaker 1: that ended up being a big whiff. In this freegency period.
Speaker 1: They really wanted Adam Humphries. Uh reportedly ended up offering
Speaker 1: him more money than the Titans got, but it was
Speaker 1: after he had already agreed with Titans and they were
Speaker 1: in on Cole Beasley. They were lightly in on Golden
Speaker 1: Tap didn't get any of them, and they signed the
Speaker 1: ended up signing Bruce Ellington. Uh, they signed um who's
Speaker 1: the guy from Washington, Maurice Harris who? And they signed
Speaker 1: a bunch of special team or Terrence Brooks. They bring
Speaker 1: back Jason mccordy for a little more money. It's a
Speaker 1: very kind of low wattage free agency period here for
Speaker 1: the Patriots, and I think there's gonna be some more
Speaker 1: moves to come. And the gronk thing hangs over the
Speaker 1: franchise that it does, I mean I and over the
Speaker 1: wall outside here at NFL media. Yeah, but if he
Speaker 1: were to retire, I don't think you need to pull
Speaker 1: his painting off the same way when you're Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: and your melchown, it's like they're sending a message, but
Speaker 1: it's the opposite of grandstanding. It's like Belichick goes to
Speaker 1: Barbadis make sure people take pictures of him with his wife.
Speaker 1: I think it was the UK, wasn't it. It was Caribbean.
Speaker 1: Then they sign a bunch of special teamers while everyone's
Speaker 1: going crazy with their money, and it's like, oh, hey,
Speaker 1: we don't need to be active in free agency to
Speaker 1: dominate this league. I really liked Martellis Bennett sent a
Speaker 1: tweet out. I recommend everyone check it out. It was
Speaker 1: kind of a joking letter to Michael Bennett to let
Speaker 1: him know what the locker room was like. He gave
Speaker 1: me more information on the personalities in that locker room
Speaker 1: in these tweets of what people are really like than
Speaker 1: than some Beat reporters have for years. It was good.
Speaker 1: It was good stuff. Um just kind of like the
Speaker 1: different vibes, like like Julian Edelman, You'll probably want to
Speaker 1: punch him at some point, Um, you know, don't do that.
Speaker 1: He's kind of only got one speed. Uh. You you'll
Speaker 1: vibe with High Tower. He's kind of the most like
Speaker 1: just like business like you're kind of guy. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: Brady very down to earth into interior decorating. Uh. James
Speaker 1: Devlin is like a guy like the Bennetts, who really
Speaker 1: self growth is important to him that you can have
Speaker 1: some pretty deep conversations. He wants to become a better person.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna check these out. Who's this from? It's from Martellis,
Speaker 1: Ninki Martellis and that was the Patriots aren't resigning him now.
Speaker 1: So Steelers have signed Dante Moncrief. They have a hole
Speaker 1: in their depth chart with Antonio Brown no longer around. Uh.
Speaker 1: That's not to say that Dante Moncrief becomes their number
Speaker 1: one option. That's Juju Smith Schuster. But mon Creef after
Speaker 1: one year with the Jaguars, Uh, didn't do much. He
Speaker 1: bounces to Pittsburgh of course, started his career with the Colts.
Speaker 1: Someone asked me yesterday on Twitter, how did I like
Speaker 1: what the Steelers have done? And it was hard to
Speaker 1: say that I was taking anything positive away. Dante Moncrieff
Speaker 1: is talented, but he's been a tease and one of
Speaker 1: the least efficient wide receivers in the NFL the last
Speaker 1: couple of years. Every offense he's goes to is it
Speaker 1: in the bottom of the league and passing offense. Uh.
Speaker 1: They also sent Stephen Nelson, gave him a lot of
Speaker 1: money to be a starting cornerback. Bradley Roby turning them down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is all kind of like little stuff, and we
Speaker 1: got some big coming up. Give us something, little breaking news,
Speaker 1: give it to us. Ryan Tanna has been traded to
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans and signed to a one year contract.
Speaker 1: No other details at this moment. That Titans have a
Speaker 1: there you go backup. I guess in Tannahill Dolphins decide
Speaker 1: they interested turn in the page even if he contract
Speaker 1: that would Yeah, they did, they said, and signed him
Speaker 1: to a one year contract. That his agent broke the news,
Speaker 1: so he clearly was willing to just take a backups contract.
Speaker 1: I would assume. I bet it's a nice backups contract
Speaker 1: Titans have playing Gabbard under contract. Heriota can never stay healthy.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I very rarely have anything positive
Speaker 1: to say about the Tytoons, but this is a perfect
Speaker 1: landing spot. Their quarterback is never healthy, He's always got
Speaker 1: something going on, and Towne Hill is to me now
Speaker 1: one of the best backups in football. I I really
Speaker 1: like the Titans first week of free agents too, might
Speaker 1: be my favorite team here in free agency. Humphries Saffold.
Speaker 1: I like wake I think there's some sort of under
Speaker 1: like there's a market inefficient seeing some of these older
Speaker 1: players that you can just get for a one year
Speaker 1: contract like wake In Tannehill. I would actually even put
Speaker 1: into that, like why not get Ryan Tannehill for one
Speaker 1: year and just just same with Baker Mayfield and Josh
Speaker 1: Allen are talking about he's a little bit older. But
Speaker 1: Marcus Mario. It's all about the quarterback. Though. It's the
Speaker 1: quarterback gonna be able to lift this game and take
Speaker 1: the franchise to the next level. I haven't I haven't
Speaker 1: seen any evidence other than a nice playoff win in
Speaker 1: Kansas City with the Chiefs team that kind of tripped
Speaker 1: on its own moments moments here and there. But is
Speaker 1: he the guy? Well, now you have not another aren't
Speaker 1: we aren't we like massively less excited about Marcus Mariotta
Speaker 1: as a room than we were three years ago. I mean,
Speaker 1: is that the way you want the trajecture to go
Speaker 1: as a quarterback? That's not the way you wanted to go?
Speaker 1: Where we are? Are we going to edit out a
Speaker 1: our Tannehill takes earlier in the show Organic where the
Speaker 1: organic fish tank and that was organic? Okay, it happened earlier.
Speaker 1: Nice discussion. People be like, oh, the show is a
Speaker 1: little you know, behind the times, and then bang' gonna
Speaker 1: hear this. You're like, whoa, these guys are capturing everything.
Speaker 1: We're just gonna sit here through Sunday night. This this
Speaker 1: this pod will be Week one starter. Jake Ruddeck The
Speaker 1: Dolphins are gonna be bad. They're gonna draft someone. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be a tough year. All right, sorry, Henry, not
Speaker 1: really uh at the best? Who's the best guy's left
Speaker 1: on the market, That's what's going on the news. Who's
Speaker 1: left now? Justin Houston? I think the best in domic
Speaker 1: and Sue? Uh is interesting? This isn't one of Ronald
Speaker 1: Darby is out there who's coming off an injury, but
Speaker 1: was a you know, a guy defensive? Rockie and Efford's
Speaker 1: out there three not one of the best guys. But
Speaker 1: I have not heard Randall Cobb's name all week. No,
Speaker 1: Gino Smith is out there. You know there's some there's
Speaker 1: some big players out there. Um, all right, before we
Speaker 1: get out of here, let's do some over unders. Let's
Speaker 1: have some fun, some players that are new locations. Um,
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco, let's start there West It's it's going to
Speaker 1: be a fascinating subplot to watch how he does in Denver.
Speaker 1: Let's throw some numbers out there. You tell me West
Speaker 1: Over under? You ready a touchdowns five and a half?
Speaker 1: That is well set. I will take the under because
Speaker 1: I think that it will be Philip Lindsay And um,
Speaker 1: who's the other running back there who is a rookie
Speaker 1: Royce Freeman in the red zone quite a bit yards passing.
Speaker 1: Oh Mark shaking his head. I'm taking the under for
Speaker 1: all Joe Flack. I don't believe he's gonna things just because,
Speaker 1: like if if he misses three games, that alone you
Speaker 1: win it. And to me, these are so well set
Speaker 1: Dan that if he played sixteen games that you know,
Speaker 1: one little minor injury and you are He's thrown over
Speaker 1: touchdowns two times in his entire career. I'm waiting for
Speaker 1: West's answer. I'll take the over pass over, Okay, So
Speaker 1: you you see a good season and not a great season,
Speaker 1: but better than a middling season. I see a career
Speaker 1: resetting season where he's going to be viewed differently. So
Speaker 1: it's got a fourth round pick in this Ryan Tannehill
Speaker 1: um trade, which indicates to me, no, not that he's
Speaker 1: gonna be battling to start, but that they're certainly thinking
Speaker 1: of post Mariotas in the last year of his contract.
Speaker 1: Could Tannehill just be another option long term? It's not
Speaker 1: a bad value, all right, We'll stick at quarterback Greg
Speaker 1: nick Foles of the Jaguars and a half touch scenes.
Speaker 1: That's really high though. That's that's what the dozen people
Speaker 1: would saying. Well, not really, that's what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 1: funny because I've consider myself a total falls acolyte. But
Speaker 1: I'm going under anyways because I think that's the smarter.
Speaker 1: He could have a good year and throw fords. I
Speaker 1: feel like they're gonna want to run the ball a lot.
Speaker 1: I'm going over that though. Alright, pass ready. I don't
Speaker 1: believe in passerrating, but I'll go away. It's like enough
Speaker 1: of passer ratings two thousands, nineteen, that's that's let's grow
Speaker 1: up a little bit. I would I want to see
Speaker 1: Nick Foles start sixteen games he's never started. Yeah. My
Speaker 1: thing is more. I think it's gonna be like a
Speaker 1: run first off. I don't necessary even. I think he
Speaker 1: could play well and go under all of those you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, It's possible. Um alright, Mark you ready,
Speaker 1: big one for you, because it's a new day in Cleveland, dawn.
Speaker 1: It's a new day. Odell Beckham Jr. Okay, is this
Speaker 1: white snake good? Right? One catches under close and seventy
Speaker 1: five yards receiving under way over Wow, twelve touchdowns twelve.
Speaker 1: Well that's the push. You can't have twelve and a a
Speaker 1: half touchdowns? Oh you said, he said twelve? Um the
Speaker 1: thirteen touchdowns sober. He's only done that once. But I'd
Speaker 1: go over big time on the other two. So when
Speaker 1: when you thought I said twelve, you said push. But
Speaker 1: the when I told you twelve and a half, you
Speaker 1: should have said under, but you went to I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to veer negative. I just I So he's gonna
Speaker 1: have a Pro Bowl season, but maybe not first team
Speaker 1: All Pro. You just had a hundred catches once. I
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of other mouths to feed in
Speaker 1: that offense. Is there were years in New York where
Speaker 1: there weren't. It's a good no one else around. It's
Speaker 1: a good thought now, you know, because he might be
Speaker 1: more of a vertical receiver, a little less of those
Speaker 1: short vertical receptions, maybe more yards. What would you say
Speaker 1: his number is? West receptions yards touchdowns. Hit me with it.
Speaker 1: Receptions fifty yards touchdowns. Okay, and I'm conservative, Greg, You're
Speaker 1: freaking me out over here. I think he can set records,
Speaker 1: all right? So that type of season another running back?
Speaker 1: You ready? Mark? Sticking with you? Your boy Mark with
Speaker 1: a K mark Ingram Mark would a c over a
Speaker 1: thousand over barely h West your boy Adrian Peterson yards
Speaker 1: und didn't like the way he ran for much of
Speaker 1: the second half of the season, and Darius guys will
Speaker 1: be healthy this year. Tannehill, by the way, got the
Speaker 1: exact same contract as Ryan as Teddy Bridgewater seven guaranteed
Speaker 1: twelve with intentives Greg Ryan Tannehill just gotta put that
Speaker 1: out there, Ryan Tannehill four and a half starts, I'm
Speaker 1: going over whoa. I think there's a injurer performance or both.
Speaker 1: That's it's That's the reason why I was decisive about
Speaker 1: it was one one way or another. I'd take it.
Speaker 1: I like that move. I think the Titans, the Titans
Speaker 1: need options that that position. I agree they agree, Wow
Speaker 1: West West John Smokey Brown up there in western New
Speaker 1: York with the big armed kid yards per reception sixteen
Speaker 1: mm over don't get a lot of white pr Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like it. I like it. What did Sean Jackson
Speaker 1: have last year? Okay, it's wild. You're taking me over,
Speaker 1: So you think that's gonna work. That's a connection that
Speaker 1: will works. Well. You could have four catches and have
Speaker 1: you could average that eighteen point nine. I mean, that'll
Speaker 1: that'll lead the league. You know, if you get around eighteen.
Speaker 1: Look at what Robert freaking Foster did at the end
Speaker 1: of last year with Josh Allen. That's undrafted rookie and
Speaker 1: John Brown's Smokey's better than Robert games for all these
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm not I don't sleep on That's
Speaker 1: what I don't sleep on. Rob five. That's your analysis.
Speaker 1: My analysis. Smoke's way better than that guy was explicitive.
Speaker 1: I'm saying I kind of like Foster Brown Beasley. I
Speaker 1: think Foster isn't a guy to be trifled with. When
Speaker 1: you do that as a rookie, I'm gonna I want
Speaker 1: to see what's next, my boy Lean Bell seventy seven receptions,
Speaker 1: seventy seven and a half reception over twelve hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty yards rushing set. Well, but I'm I'm you know,
Speaker 1: I'm bullish on Bell. So I'm going over. So you're
Speaker 1: you're looking at You're saying, he's gonna approach two thousand,
Speaker 1: totally yards. That's a home run signing. If he gives
Speaker 1: you that, I mean, he's done this West. Where do
Speaker 1: you come down on that? What's the question, Um, seventy
Speaker 1: What did I say seventy? You know I would I
Speaker 1: would say totally. I would say Artram Scrimmage, I would
Speaker 1: put more around eight hundred. But yeah, who seven Bell? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love Bell. Let's set seventy seven and a half
Speaker 1: receptions will start there underd and fifty yards rushing. That's
Speaker 1: a good set. Yeah, I would push that. Seventeen That
Speaker 1: would be a ridiculous That's just ridiculous. And he's allowed
Speaker 1: to push that exactly. It's like it's like a losing
Speaker 1: the yard on his last thing in ruins here his
Speaker 1: last two active years here in for twelve six. So
Speaker 1: twelve fifty is right in that world. Seventeen twenty total
Speaker 1: yards offense under okay, mm hmm, whatever it, dude, Joe
Speaker 1: Flacco sucks. All right, that's good. I don't need anybody else.
Speaker 1: Want the world agrees with you. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: Andybody also want to throw a name out there. They're
Speaker 1: gonna be hearing about this magical Joe flax about this
Speaker 1: Sam Donald Dan twenty seven touchdowns, villain, bullish bro. But
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you nailed it. I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: be between twenty six and thirty, so I'll take the over.
Speaker 1: M Sam Donald fourteen interceptions, fourteen and a half interception,
Speaker 1: he's gonna throw about between ten and twelve, So I'll
Speaker 1: take the under. New York Giants Winds m M. What's
Speaker 1: the number four? Give us an over under on the
Speaker 1: give us a half, give us a half. I'm going
Speaker 1: over regards four and a half, I'll take the under.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be a mess. Wow, there there
Speaker 1: aren't many teams. I wouldn't take the over. I think
Speaker 1: i'd probably take the over on four and a half
Speaker 1: for about thirty teams, and the Giants would be one
Speaker 1: of them. Eli. Thing is so sloppy now, even to
Speaker 1: the next level with the Beckham gone, I just think
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be. This is the wrong time to
Speaker 1: be because everyone's gonna skew hyper negative and they've earned
Speaker 1: at the brown the Giants, But I still think that's
Speaker 1: not a good team. They're a bad team last year
Speaker 1: and they got worse. If they go four eleven and one,
Speaker 1: is that four and a half wins? No, we've had
Speaker 1: this conversation as well. I'll give it to you. You
Speaker 1: would then I'm going to the people don't but West does.
Speaker 1: In this world, I'm going to push four winds in
Speaker 1: a tie have more leniency on these things. Speaking of
Speaker 1: the Desert, we gotta get Spice rack back on the
Speaker 1: show here who was top and we got to talk
Speaker 1: about Jonathan Williams and uh what happened there, Melvin Gordon,
Speaker 1: how it feels about him and who else is in
Speaker 1: the mix space track. You're your desert consigliari who was
Speaker 1: invited to uh your wedding, Chris, but you have not
Speaker 1: received by yet. Well, we're gonna have to talk about that.
Speaker 1: It's on me for not getting My job is to
Speaker 1: text all these people and tell them I need r
Speaker 1: S vps. Guys are not like a single guy is
Speaker 1: not good ever at getting the wedding invite. It comes
Speaker 1: dressed up in a very nice envelope. You put it
Speaker 1: somewhere hopefully, but you don't send it back. You assume
Speaker 1: you're gonna in Tybee and just see what's happening there.
Speaker 1: Speaking of lesson his wedding, the bachelor party is set, Yeah,
Speaker 1: keeping it nice and intimate and uh we're going down
Speaker 1: to San Diego. No more details because we you know
Speaker 1: this is going to be an intimate affair. But we
Speaker 1: have a house. The Reds are in town. I just
Speaker 1: gave you the date. Don't don't come up to us,
Speaker 1: give us the privacy to be deserved. And what's going
Speaker 1: to be an incredible weekend. It's all very Christa Westler
Speaker 1: and Lakisha's upcoming nuptials excited us. I am I like
Speaker 1: the Dan's expecting, like a Beatles arrived in New York,
Speaker 1: flock of people, just like all around we did you
Speaker 1: ever see a hard day's night? That's gonna happen once
Speaker 1: we touchdown? That is an uneven film. All right, we'll
Speaker 1: be back, all right, So this is what's going on again.
Speaker 1: Taking the train down the coast, it's a possibility. But
Speaker 1: how are we gonna get the cornhole boards down? Crossed
Speaker 1: my mind. We might have to take a car. For
Speaker 1: that reason. We can reach out to the person renting
Speaker 1: and ask if who renting? Friends they maybe they have
Speaker 1: that Sainse I will say, the train is an awesome experience. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's take it offline and figure out. I wouldn't be fine.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't care about the cornhole things. I want a car,
Speaker 1: um I always want a car like trains. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying I'll drive. I don't mind. I mean, I'm just
Speaker 1: saying it's nice to have a car. I'm not convinced
Speaker 1: Gregg's gonna be there for the night, even I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna pay three or four hours. I'm there. Hey,
Speaker 1: who is there in Tybee? Last year? I'm there. I'm
Speaker 1: there baby. Um all right. Next week, like we said,
Speaker 1: we're going to Arizona for the owners meetings. Talk to
Speaker 1: a lot of coaches and gm so looking forward to that.
Speaker 1: So we'll have a show Monday, we'll have a show Wednesday,
Speaker 1: and then we'll have a Twitter show as well on Wednesday.
Speaker 1: I know we did a bad job. We never told
Speaker 1: anybody we changed when the Twitter show was, and people
Speaker 1: have been confused. It was Tuesday, now it's Wednesday at
Speaker 1: one thirty Pacific, four thirty Eastern. Believe, nine thirty over
Speaker 1: London Town. Well it's no, there's something going on with
Speaker 1: their daylight saving. Come on, you're close. No, it's close,
Speaker 1: come on, guys, trying to help you. It's seven hours,
Speaker 1: I believe, not eight, or maybe it's nine not eight,
Speaker 1: al right, either way, I figure it out, guys. Uh
Speaker 1: we're out of here, Kent. Thanks for all your work
Speaker 1: this week. Yeah, it's been fun and I'll be back
Speaker 1: with you guys on Monday as well. Unlike Arca, you
Speaker 1: you decided it was important to be here for free
Speaker 1: agency week in the NFL, and I respect that. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no way you can miss this week. It's free agency.
Speaker 1: Can't he can't help it. You got to turn on
Speaker 1: the flamethrower. All right, that's it. Dan Hands is signing
Speaker 1: off four The Quiet Storm, the mel Man, the old Boss,
Speaker 1: Cam't Brown behind the glass, Steelers steak now, but you
Speaker 1: don't care until Monday