Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast can't seem better than Antonio around.
Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis and I am joining in
Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and
Speaker 1: Greg Rosendal. What is up? Boys? Hey? Dan? Happy Monday.
Speaker 1: You got a case on the Monday's UG? You do, right?
Speaker 1: I don't know you've seen today and just you know what?
Speaker 1: The Monday thing is real? It's like ug. It's the
Speaker 1: worst Tuesday, Blah, Wednesday, hump Day, Thursday, underrated day, always
Speaker 1: has been, and some people call it Friday JR. Friday,
Speaker 1: the gentleman's Friday. West. You're back in Los Angeles and
Speaker 1: according to a conversation, according to comments you made in
Speaker 1: a conversation earlier today, that you made your last journey
Speaker 1: on an airplane ahead of your wedding. That's good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hope it's my last journey. Feels like we've been
Speaker 1: traveling a lot. Cincinnati was fun. Bachelor party, no strippers,
Speaker 1: no poker, no paintball. Success that's next week. Well, the
Speaker 1: the family and friends. From the real part this was
Speaker 1: that you were there for the paramore. Well, she had
Speaker 1: her shower and simultaneously hard to keep track of this stuff.
Speaker 1: My brothers through a bachelor party, we smoked dead animals
Speaker 1: and through corn hole. It was perfect. That sounds nice
Speaker 1: And Part two will be in uh Santiago with the
Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast boys a week from Thursday. So
Speaker 1: we've got some surprises. We're actually gonna smoke live animals.
Speaker 1: I mean they want to stay live, but as a
Speaker 1: treat for you, Mark will be eating them as an entirety.
Speaker 1: Is there any concerned because I mean you you know,
Speaker 1: Lakisha's had a variety of um female oriented celebrations. I
Speaker 1: noticed um and one of them that there was like
Speaker 1: a fleet of stripper poles that they were dancing around
Speaker 1: learning to do jigs and things. I mean, how did
Speaker 1: you How do you feel about that? I think it's great.
Speaker 1: Kasia is a fantastic dancer. She danced in college. It's
Speaker 1: a gift she has. I don't share that gift. And
Speaker 1: maybe if I didn't have that gift, I'd be dancing
Speaker 1: on stripper poles too. Well, you're saying all the right things,
Speaker 1: learned a lot already. Ironic that it's West who says
Speaker 1: keep me away from the strippers for the bachelor party,
Speaker 1: the wife to be bring of poles. That's sort of
Speaker 1: one of my questions about these classes that the girls take.
Speaker 1: Do you get an actual stripper who's an expert to
Speaker 1: show you how to do the dances? Or do you
Speaker 1: have some dancer who just kind of learned how to
Speaker 1: do kind of stripper moves? Like, are you getting the
Speaker 1: authentic thing or not? You gotta ask her, ask her
Speaker 1: what one? Once? I took a stripping class. Stripper, yeah,
Speaker 1: an exotic dancer, yes, yes, it's a preferred nomenclature. Yes,
Speaker 1: and then how do we fact check? I mean, it
Speaker 1: can tell us that, But how do I mean? It is?
Speaker 1: It is an art? It is so much work. It's
Speaker 1: also great core work. I know that I am not
Speaker 1: nearly in good enough shape to attempt any of those
Speaker 1: pool dance I'll tell you what though. And you weren't
Speaker 1: here for our Friday softball recap. You were moving around
Speaker 1: incredibly well at third base, making every play and uh
Speaker 1: and and and hitting the ball very well with authority.
Speaker 1: I didn't see you haven't skipped a beat physically, despite
Speaker 1: many many comments that you've made in a self deprecating
Speaker 1: manner that physically you're no longer the same man, or
Speaker 1: you're working your way back. You seem to be all
Speaker 1: man and then so it's very generous of you. I
Speaker 1: would say the only positive thing I noticed was I
Speaker 1: definitely have more flexibility than I did a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago. But my wind was gone after the first
Speaker 1: time I attempted to run. I didn't feel very rangey
Speaker 1: at third base. So thank you for saying all that.
Speaker 1: You're welcome, And that is actually Mark's favorite trade. A
Speaker 1: man limber limber. Oh, there's no it's that. Then a
Speaker 1: deep distance to number two. Alright, a big show coming
Speaker 1: up today. Uh. Interesting Again, we're in a little weird
Speaker 1: bubble of the NFL calendar that it feels particularly pronounced
Speaker 1: this year. I don't know why that just there's not
Speaker 1: a lot happening, but there's some stupid things happening. And
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about some dumb things happening on social
Speaker 1: media where a lot of dumb things happened. Uh. And
Speaker 1: also we're gonna look ahead to the draft and specifically
Speaker 1: who should be noivous about the draft When you look
Speaker 1: at the current rosters in the NFL, established players, greg
Speaker 1: who should look at at what you know. Mayok, well
Speaker 1: not anymore. Excuse me, excuse me, the new Mayok move
Speaker 1: the sticks. Who else we got Zerline? Bucky Brooks, Well,
Speaker 1: that's a big it's a big, big spot for him,
Speaker 1: big shoes to fill. But these players, these veterans looking
Speaker 1: at the draft and and how that could change their careers.
Speaker 1: Quite frankly, we're gonna talk about some players who should
Speaker 1: be a little noivous. I talked to Daniel Jeremiah this one.
Speaker 1: He does not seem nervous. He seemed very comfortable and
Speaker 1: very luxurious in his new role, happy to be there.
Speaker 1: Then strike me as a very little to the next
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. He's prepared. It's it's it's when the
Speaker 1: lights come on and it's show time. Does he strike
Speaker 1: you as a nervous You've got the Wednesday mock draft beforehand.
Speaker 1: People are keeping score. I mean, that's the big time week.
Speaker 1: I feel bad for people keeping score on mock draft. Tom.
Speaker 1: There's got to be something better to do with you,
Speaker 1: and I don't think Yeah, Jared Jared Goff wasn't nervous
Speaker 1: during the bye week, although he maybe he was during
Speaker 1: the bye week before the Super Bowl might not be
Speaker 1: the best example. I've never seen anyone more nervous than
Speaker 1: that man. Before we started the show. We ended up
Speaker 1: stumbling into adds Internet wormhole. Grape lady who's stopping on
Speaker 1: grapes uh, and then fell out of the grape thing
Speaker 1: off the platform. And she had a lot of confidence
Speaker 1: when she was stopping on the grapes greg uh. And
Speaker 1: then the lights went up, the cameras were on, and
Speaker 1: she and tumbling down. I mean, like a lesson learned.
Speaker 1: Like many of our listeners, I have no idea what
Speaker 1: you're talking about. We should I mean, we can use
Speaker 1: that audio. Yeah, you know what we're talking about. YouTube
Speaker 1: it great, lady, there's an app for that. All right,
Speaker 1: let's listen news Listen. You're cute, there's no getting around it.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if you like country music, but
Speaker 1: I was thinking maybe one of these days we can
Speaker 1: drive out to a field, grape up some tunes, spoke
Speaker 1: a few back and neodles, maybe even toss a disk around.
Speaker 1: But wait, who wow? I mean, who else got bombarded
Speaker 1: in their mentions? Well for not knowing that the d
Speaker 1: M that Ricky got from a mystery man was actually
Speaker 1: a Andy Bernard from the Office, uh Pam interaction from
Speaker 1: season three. I'm only a little surprised because I would say, Dan,
Speaker 1: you're the biggest Office fan. I know I certainly was,
Speaker 1: but I that could have slipped past my radar. But
Speaker 1: when the fifty eighth person tells you in a twelve
Speaker 1: hour span that it was from the Office, that's when
Speaker 1: it really hit home that we pulled it from that show.
Speaker 1: That it was pulled from that show, That's when I learned,
Speaker 1: and I guess the lesson. There's a lesson there that, um,
Speaker 1: it's great to have a big audience that we do
Speaker 1: on this podcast, and we're all very proud and happy
Speaker 1: to have this audience, but we get held accountable when
Speaker 1: we mess up, and and sometimes it's really annoying. Were
Speaker 1: you getting hitten mentions? I were in there? Your name
Speaker 1: is I wasn't too active on social media. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say it's exactly what I needed and muted muted everyone
Speaker 1: by now And I don't know, I think I saw
Speaker 1: like one of those, but yeah, right, relentless like it
Speaker 1: was frankly really annoying. All right, let's get into it.
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown I said there would be something stupid to
Speaker 1: talk about here. It is Antonio Brown fell out with
Speaker 1: the Steelers, forced the trade to Oakland. The Steelers got
Speaker 1: about forty five cents on the dollar in the trade.
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown got a big pay day. He essentially got
Speaker 1: everything you want. Maybe he didn't go to a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl contender, but he gets to go out west. He
Speaker 1: gets to play in Vegas for a franchise that that's
Speaker 1: on TV and people talk about. But for whatever, he's
Speaker 1: an Antonio Brown is not fully willing to let go
Speaker 1: of his Steelers days and the beefs that were built
Speaker 1: during that time. Case in point, Juju Smith Schuster UM,
Speaker 1: the reigning team MVP of the Steelers and another UM
Speaker 1: superstar in his own right at the position um. Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown uh went after Juju uh specifically, and I'll read
Speaker 1: it emotion boy fumbled the whole postseason in the biggest
Speaker 1: game of the year. Everybody went blind, busy, blind, too
Speaker 1: busy making guys famous. Not enough reality these days, by
Speaker 1: the way, check But I can't really It's hard to
Speaker 1: read anything Antonio Brown writes because the words are always
Speaker 1: there's always like multiple words missing. Uh. And then Juju
Speaker 1: Smith Schuster came back at him crazy, how big that
Speaker 1: ego got to take shots at people who show you love?
Speaker 1: And then Antonio Brown just uh today West Monday. Uh
Speaker 1: Then I guess in another way to try to dig at,
Speaker 1: Juju pulls up an old um Twitter d M that
Speaker 1: Juju sent asking for ways he was a wide receiver
Speaker 1: at USC at the time, asking Antonio Brown um what
Speaker 1: he can do to get better and praising his play.
Speaker 1: He was already a star on the Steelers Brown was
Speaker 1: at that point. Uh So that has become the big
Speaker 1: story of Monday and West, I know you're thrilled about it.
Speaker 1: Your thoughts, Well, I guess it puts the lie to
Speaker 1: the tepid take that Antonio Brown was only acting like
Speaker 1: a crazy person to get traded and as soon as
Speaker 1: he got to l a dyed his much dash back
Speaker 1: to its regular color and we'll start acting like a
Speaker 1: normal person. No. I think this is one of the
Speaker 1: old the old saying when someone shows you who he is,
Speaker 1: believe him. I think Antonio Brown has showed us who
Speaker 1: he is. Well, he's he's like a small he's kind
Speaker 1: of a small insecure guy, which is not atypical of
Speaker 1: people at the very tops of their profession. It's kind
Speaker 1: of a a strange dichotomy of, like, you know, sometimes
Speaker 1: people to get to that point have an enormous ego
Speaker 1: on one hand, but are also incredibly insecure on another.
Speaker 1: This was in response to a fan pointing out that
Speaker 1: Juju won the Team m Yeah one the Team MVP,
Speaker 1: which clearly sticks in Antonio Brown's cross so much that
Speaker 1: he's sitting there, who knows, if you know, what's going
Speaker 1: on in his life at the time, but he's sees
Speaker 1: that tweet and he just can't bear to not respond
Speaker 1: to that because it bothers him so much. And because
Speaker 1: of all this happening the last couple of days, some
Speaker 1: people have been sending out this. Jesse Washington, I believe,
Speaker 1: is the name who wrote an article on Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: for The Undefeated UH last September, which I had, which
Speaker 1: I missed the first time around down UH, and it
Speaker 1: details a lot of different ways in which Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: has kind of been small and UH struggled to maintain
Speaker 1: the personal relationships he's had around him, not just with
Speaker 1: the mothers of his children, but also his trainers and
Speaker 1: other other people that have been close to him, where
Speaker 1: he's kind of exhibited the same sort of behavior where
Speaker 1: he's just I don't know, it's not just going hell,
Speaker 1: it's just kind of had We had a d d
Speaker 1: Ki kabwala uh the NFL network on our show when
Speaker 1: we're at the owners meetings, and she's been close and
Speaker 1: around the Steelers for years now for our company, and
Speaker 1: she said it, and we've heard it from other places,
Speaker 1: but I trust her coming straight from her to us
Speaker 1: saying Antonio A. Broun just changed at some point through
Speaker 1: his ego and whatever his personality and what was around
Speaker 1: him and the success he had changed who he was
Speaker 1: as a person, and and that led to what you're
Speaker 1: seeing now. It's just a different person and doesn't sound
Speaker 1: like a better person. I think, like the all of
Speaker 1: year old me, I think about this sometimes with Twitter
Speaker 1: that when I was young and a huge football fan,
Speaker 1: it would have been my dream to be able to
Speaker 1: communicate with players and tell them encouraging things and ask
Speaker 1: them questions and just learn about their lives. But looking
Speaker 1: at what happens in general, I do think that we
Speaker 1: on some level live in a terrible time because this
Speaker 1: is the perfect example of something where if you have
Speaker 1: some acts to grind with anyone go handle it one
Speaker 1: on one. Instead, it becomes everyone's drama and we all
Speaker 1: have to deal with it, and it's completely unrewarding for
Speaker 1: us to have to talk about it. And I don't
Speaker 1: know who it is rewarding for. Is is Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: coming out of this feeling better about the way he
Speaker 1: handled I would imagine actually he will self punish after
Speaker 1: realizing what this turned into. Two this is you do
Speaker 1: it in the well, I know, but like you you
Speaker 1: get it's a little just like he said, said like
Speaker 1: Juju Smith Shusters had settled down on the emotion, you know,
Speaker 1: And He's right. It's like we've all felt that. I know,
Speaker 1: I've guilty it toly. You hit send on a tweet,
Speaker 1: you hit send on something you're like wait, wait, and
Speaker 1: then later like I shouldn't have done that. I think
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown gets caught in this trap just too much
Speaker 1: credit for his level of self awareness at this point. Well,
Speaker 1: I know nothing about him. I do think he is
Speaker 1: very interested in being one of the biggest superstars alive
Speaker 1: or certainly in in sports. I think that's that's very
Speaker 1: important to him. And so maybe, like like other people
Speaker 1: who have risen high in this in this country. You know,
Speaker 1: he's he's interested in attention for attentions sake, and isn't
Speaker 1: even really picking between good and bad. In that article,
Speaker 1: they pointed out he puts more on Instagram than literally
Speaker 1: any than any major athlete, like like just by post.
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's he wants the attention on some level, good,
Speaker 1: bad or whatever. He can find it on your diary,
Speaker 1: you can find attention. Like when it's one thing, when
Speaker 1: the student starts to turn on the teacher, you kind
Speaker 1: of get it. That's the way of life. You think
Speaker 1: you're better than your dad at basketball and the driveway
Speaker 1: all of a sudden or whatever it is. But when
Speaker 1: it's Antonio Brown turning on juju to me something about
Speaker 1: that's going in the wrong direction. He's just totally on
Speaker 1: appealing and he's like a two year old kid, and
Speaker 1: he's just mad that he won the Team MVP Award.
Speaker 1: By the way, thank you to the Steelers again for
Speaker 1: keeping this Team MVP award. Going looking forward to them
Speaker 1: announcing this year that James Washington was the Team m
Speaker 1: v P and then Ben Roethlisber gets pissed. It's like
Speaker 1: something new every year, doesn't Antonio Brown feel a little
Speaker 1: bit like an off brand Terrell Owens the generation later, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then not that did things the right way either,
Speaker 1: But it was something more entertainment. That was fresher, That
Speaker 1: was fresher. This this is in the completely the category
Speaker 1: of completely unnecessary and unrewarding to all of us. An
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown's is more mean, right, It's more lashing out
Speaker 1: at people and trying to hurt people, And Terrell Owens
Speaker 1: was a lot of self destructiveness. All right, let's move on.
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen another a key name around the NFL draft because,
Speaker 1: as we know, um Cliff Kingsbury, the new head coach
Speaker 1: of the Cardinals, big air raid guy. He's in love
Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray. They say, and that, and they that's
Speaker 1: gonna end with the Cardinals picking Murray with the first
Speaker 1: overall pick, and that means curtains for Josh Rosen, the
Speaker 1: quote unquote franchise quarterback in Arizona. So where is he
Speaker 1: gonna end up? Well, a couple of reports over the
Speaker 1: weekend's surface. ESPN's John Kinn believes there is a quote
Speaker 1: solid chance Kim bomb uh Kim bomb in a big
Speaker 1: spot that Washington will trade for Rosen. Peter King and
Speaker 1: his Monday Morning Quarterback column UH called Washington the quote
Speaker 1: favorite in the clubhouse to trade for Rosen, and it's
Speaker 1: certainly greg that certainly makes sense from the standpoint of
Speaker 1: Alex Smith, and Washington is very it's very in doubt
Speaker 1: whether he'll play another step in his career after that
Speaker 1: broken leg case. Keenum heads there and he's no one's
Speaker 1: idea of even a bridge, I feel like at this point,
Speaker 1: and Colt McCoy can't stay on the field, just have
Speaker 1: another leg surgery. Josh Rosen would bring in a someone
Speaker 1: with actual, true potential going forward and maybe not a
Speaker 1: too bad cost, not at all. I think there's most
Speaker 1: teams I think would be uh well served by giving
Speaker 1: up a second round pick for Josh Rosen. I really
Speaker 1: think there's more teams than not in the NFL that
Speaker 1: I would say that's a good trade sending your second
Speaker 1: or maybe maybe it's a high third, and the Redskins
Speaker 1: would be high on that list. They're also one of
Speaker 1: four teams Albert Brier marked as teams that have contacted
Speaker 1: the Cardinals asking about Rosen. Trying to figure it out.
Speaker 1: Is that there was the Giants, the Chargers, uh, and
Speaker 1: the Redskins were another one of them. The Giants are
Speaker 1: quote not in love with Rosen, so maybe you could
Speaker 1: cross them up. The list doesn't seem right. It doesn't
Speaker 1: seem right now that the list is that long for
Speaker 1: people interested in Rosen. But also there's maybe a lot
Speaker 1: that we don't know well. Theren't that many teams that
Speaker 1: need the starter. But where we're like, Rosen is labeled
Speaker 1: as not a fit for the air raid offense in
Speaker 1: comparison to Kyler Murray. He does fit with Jon Gruden.
Speaker 1: I think that John Cruden is in a make or
Speaker 1: break season. I don't mean Jake Gruden. Excuse me. I
Speaker 1: don't know how many years the Redskins want to go
Speaker 1: on with this front office in this head coach. But
Speaker 1: this is a quarterback that would fit very well for him,
Speaker 1: So I think Jake Ruden would absolutely pushed to do this.
Speaker 1: The Lord idea I found fascinating I think it was
Speaker 1: from Breer's column, was that in the month or two
Speaker 1: leading up to the draft, and maybe this goes from
Speaker 1: February through late April, draft picks are worth so much
Speaker 1: more to the people who have them than they are
Speaker 1: in summertime or the off season, and why haven't analytics
Speaker 1: found a way to exploit this this like gold rush
Speaker 1: from February to August, where a number fifty overall pick
Speaker 1: in the draft is probably worth what like a number
Speaker 1: twenty overall pick in the draft. It just seems incongruous,
Speaker 1: and I think, I think, and then it and then
Speaker 1: it changes a little bit during the draft. Now that
Speaker 1: in the Patriots have taken advantage of that. There was
Speaker 1: a study of like who's done the most pick swap trades,
Speaker 1: and they've done like a third of the pick swap
Speaker 1: trades in the entire league over the last ten years.
Speaker 1: Because I think once you get down the draft day,
Speaker 1: then people just have guys that they want and that
Speaker 1: they're willing to give him up. And for the record,
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen attempting appears to be attempting to minimize the
Speaker 1: drama around the situation. He did report to the opening
Speaker 1: of Arizona's offseason conditioning workouts, and not only did he report,
Speaker 1: according to Ian rapp Report or NFL Media Insider, he
Speaker 1: was the first man in the building. Is he listen
Speaker 1: to Chaz Castle and Greig? I mean the first man
Speaker 1: in the building, beat that general into the building, beat
Speaker 1: the refrigerator guy into the building, beat the mass into
Speaker 1: the building. Do we eat? Do they just have key cards?
Speaker 1: I mean, who is even confirming this? It's just no
Speaker 1: one's there to confirm it was there at like three
Speaker 1: thirty in the morning, be like, hey, no one's here that.
Speaker 1: How does everyone even anyone gonna know? Uh? He could
Speaker 1: I mean he could go in there like two in
Speaker 1: the morning and then take a nap for seven hours.
Speaker 1: He could have done that tests you know, the whole
Speaker 1: first one in, last one to leave culture or quote.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's overrated. It's overrated because we're not
Speaker 1: We're not the first ones in the building. So to us,
Speaker 1: it's over an overrated quality here. If you're talking invest
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and DeMarcus Lawrence got it done. They agreed
Speaker 1: Friday to terms on a five year, one and five
Speaker 1: million dollar contract. Sixty five million of that guaranteed rap
Speaker 1: sheet and Mike Garafolo reported that is the most guaranteed
Speaker 1: money ever for a non quarterback and also the highest
Speaker 1: first year payout for a non QB. The previous record
Speaker 1: for defensive player was Khalil Mack. He made thirty one
Speaker 1: million in two thousand eight. Lawrence, Mac and Aaron Donald
Speaker 1: are the only three defensive players averaging more than twenty
Speaker 1: million per season. Chris Westling, Lawrence turns twenty seven this month.
Speaker 1: I believe he is. He's gonna have back surgery. Yes,
Speaker 1: shoulder surgery. Excuse me, uh coming up. So that is
Speaker 1: not inconsequential to this, but your thoughts on the signing
Speaker 1: not only not inconsequential, but to me, the most interesting
Speaker 1: part of this was the leverage he had because of
Speaker 1: that surgery. He had played through a torn laborum and
Speaker 1: his shoulder all of last year and part of two
Speaker 1: thousand seventeen. The Cowboys wanted him to get this surgery,
Speaker 1: and he you know, it's a big deal for a
Speaker 1: player to go and undergo serious, major surgery. So he said,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it. I'm willing to wait until the
Speaker 1: week before the training camp training camp to do this,
Speaker 1: which would have put a season in jeopardy. And the
Speaker 1: Cowboys said, no, we want you to do it now.
Speaker 1: And they were able to find common ground on this
Speaker 1: because they wanted him to have the surgery probably a
Speaker 1: month or two ago. It's a reminder for teams that
Speaker 1: have guys on the tag now that you know. I
Speaker 1: think if if the best case scenario happens and the
Speaker 1: guy stays healthy and plays well, you're gonna pay for it,
Speaker 1: because you know Lawrence. I read a breakdown that he
Speaker 1: was asking at one point for less money than Trey
Speaker 1: Flowers got from the Patriots, and I mean from the
Speaker 1: Lions rather, not even that long ago. He was asking
Speaker 1: for that, and then suddenly Trey Flowers signs and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's the starting point. We're going to get more than that.
Speaker 1: So the longer you wait and don't get a deal done,
Speaker 1: which they maybe could have done during last season, you
Speaker 1: end up paying a lot more. It's interesting that Stephen Jones,
Speaker 1: their VP now, coming out and saying that the any
Speaker 1: deal that they get together for Dak Prescott now and
Speaker 1: quotes must be a team friendly. It's like, okay, well, so, well,
Speaker 1: you know you've not solved all your problems. DeMarcus Lawrence
Speaker 1: has been an All Pro caliber player for the last
Speaker 1: two years. He comes in right under Von Miller and
Speaker 1: Khalil Mackworth, which is where he should be. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not as down on Dak as Greg is. I'm
Speaker 1: not that just can't stand him, that's true, just fine quarterback.
Speaker 1: But if I were the Cowboys, I would say the
Speaker 1: same thing to Dak Prescott. You have to take a
Speaker 1: team friendly all out. He has a chance to be
Speaker 1: like a more entertaining Andy Dalton type career. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That sort of seems to me more more
Speaker 1: of a Donovan Nap. That'd be all right, though. I
Speaker 1: mean Debarcus Lawrence, by the way, like three years ago.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, you're two years ago was like a bust
Speaker 1: coming off suspention one sack like change that narrative. Change
Speaker 1: it pretty fast, alright, little draft talk, Uh, Peter King,
Speaker 1: I believe in that same Monday Morning Quarterback column, here's
Speaker 1: that Ohio State quarterback Dwayne Haskins is quote sinking and
Speaker 1: he might be the fourth of those qbs. Let's go
Speaker 1: over and again, Kyler Murray presumed at number one, Drew Lock,
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, and Dwayne Haskins. A lot of people say, oh,
Speaker 1: we won't be surprised of all four of those goes.
Speaker 1: All four of those players go in the first round,
Speaker 1: and Haskins all of a sudden, according to this report, Uh,
Speaker 1: maybe the last one off the board, and rap Sheet
Speaker 1: reported that Haskins will visit with the Broncos and there
Speaker 1: they are again, the Redskins this week. Well this brings
Speaker 1: to mind a quote from Daniel Jeremiah Monday morning, note
Speaker 1: to self, Everything you hear for the next two weeks
Speaker 1: will be a lie m. I mean, how do you
Speaker 1: know whether to believe this Haskin stuff or not? It
Speaker 1: could be anything, lads. Aeroline UH had a similar take
Speaker 1: to the King article, calling the perceived draft stock quote
Speaker 1: more media created than team driven. Well, that's I mean all.
Speaker 1: I think it's fair though, for us to completely ignore
Speaker 1: every mock draft ever, or anyone who wants to do that.
Speaker 1: You're you're gonna be fine if you don't look at
Speaker 1: a single mock draft. But it's also fair if you're
Speaker 1: doing them too. Push all these quarterbacks up because you can,
Speaker 1: you can act like you're smarter than everyone in. Dwayne
Speaker 1: Haskins is less valuable than some defensive tackle in terms
Speaker 1: of actual pure talent. But every single year, these quarterbacks
Speaker 1: get over inflated and move up. And I would be
Speaker 1: surprised if he went back went past the Bengals. To
Speaker 1: be honest, with you. I mean they talked about him
Speaker 1: having some similar traits to Jared Goff and that Zach
Speaker 1: Taylors has done a ton of court work and sees
Speaker 1: some similarities there. Who knows, We don't know, because there
Speaker 1: are tons of guys who teams reach for quarterback wise,
Speaker 1: but there are also tons of guys who are still
Speaker 1: in the green room or fall to the second round
Speaker 1: when you think they're going. He has the qualities like
Speaker 1: anticipation and seeing the field that that is believed to
Speaker 1: be some of his better at routes. That like, that's
Speaker 1: what I like as as a prospect. That is what
Speaker 1: a Zach Taylor I think wou like. But you're right also,
Speaker 1: West Some of these times, some it's just impossible to
Speaker 1: know sometimes these little whispers, and people thought Mike Mack
Speaker 1: was crazy for believing the whispers that Aaron Rodgers was
Speaker 1: going to fall in the draft and he people like
Speaker 1: people mocked him at the time, like, oh, you're insane
Speaker 1: where that's coming from? And there you go, Brady quit.
Speaker 1: It was another one that like a couple of people
Speaker 1: out right, but not many, but there are like like
Speaker 1: the legit X factor of Josh Rosen filling someone's quarterback need,
Speaker 1: and that could that's gonna take one of these guys
Speaker 1: and drop him fart on the board. There is the
Speaker 1: outside chance because if you do look at the mocks,
Speaker 1: half of them seem to have the Raiders moving up
Speaker 1: for a quarterback to and you can't. You'd have to
Speaker 1: move Derek Hart in theory, or have that awkward situation
Speaker 1: play out that would remove another quarterback opening. So we
Speaker 1: just it's all these hope, like these unsolved situations. I'd
Speaker 1: rather just wake up on like May fifth and be
Speaker 1: like it's all over, thank you. Let's end the news
Speaker 1: with a couple of quarterback notes. Sean Mannion uh did
Speaker 1: not stick around with the Rams after four years, but
Speaker 1: he signs with the Vikings, where he will back up
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. The Vikings were looking for a backup because
Speaker 1: their former backup, Trevor Trevor Simeon went to the Jets
Speaker 1: to back up Sam Donald and finally West, You said,
Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel, Well that's incorrect because uh uh, the former
Speaker 1: Brown's quarterback. I feel like he's been on forty teams
Speaker 1: since the Browns. But the former Brown's quarterback um now
Speaker 1: goes by John manziel He he John different John John
Speaker 1: manziel Uh. He told Dan Patrick that's what it is.
Speaker 1: And West you had said that you saw that maybe
Speaker 1: it was a joke. I'm being in various media reports,
Speaker 1: including TMZ sports that he seriously is dropping the n
Speaker 1: y from his name. He is now John manzil Uh
Speaker 1: in an effort to grow up. And Uh, this is interesting, Mark,
Speaker 1: because it whenever this happens, there's always a little bit
Speaker 1: of like, remember when Debbie Gibson said she was Deborah
Speaker 1: terrible idea, But yeah, I know you didn't know, Greg
Speaker 1: No terrible start too. You were born. You missed Debbie Gibson.
Speaker 1: Electric you remember that big, big period in the eighties.
Speaker 1: She was like Taylor Swift before Taylor Swift. But she
Speaker 1: tried to go to Debora and go to Broadway and
Speaker 1: everybody was like, no, come on, well you try to
Speaker 1: turn little Debbie where you suggested that when she became
Speaker 1: an older rapstress that she could change her name to
Speaker 1: what larger Deborah. I believe it was something like that.
Speaker 1: There was also Larry Fishburn now that kind of work,
Speaker 1: because he said, I want to be more serious. He
Speaker 1: was on Pebebee's Playhouse as the Cowboy, and then he
Speaker 1: became now yes, and he was Larry then and then
Speaker 1: he ended up I think getting an Oscar nod for
Speaker 1: the Tina Turner movie. Don't quote me on that. Also,
Speaker 1: back in Danny Hansas told my mom one day, Mom,
Speaker 1: I'm going by Dan. Well that's smart. I mean, it
Speaker 1: is kind of a big moment. It is a big
Speaker 1: I think you have to have a level of gravity
Speaker 1: toss almost to counteract if you're if you're going by
Speaker 1: Johnny or Danny or a name like that as an adult.
Speaker 1: And if if you're john Johnny Man's out. You don't
Speaker 1: you don't have that. What age did you switch? Saying
Speaker 1: so you felt at age eleven you had acquired the
Speaker 1: adult like skills to switch from Danny to Dan. I'm
Speaker 1: doubt you think back to it. I was entering junior
Speaker 1: high essentially, and I probably Danny I associated with being
Speaker 1: you know, little Danny, the boy that has my parents
Speaker 1: and all my families still call me Danny this day.
Speaker 1: But I had I had to move on into a
Speaker 1: more mature place in my life, and uh, it changed everything.
Speaker 1: I have a situation with I'm not here if I'm
Speaker 1: Danny Hansas. I'll tell you that right now. Well, you know,
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Speaker 1: you're giving yourself nicknames left and right. So it's it's
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Speaker 1: What am I doing? Who cares? So? Over all? Right
Speaker 1: here we go, let's get into it. Um, who should
Speaker 1: be noivous about the draft? So let's throw out some
Speaker 1: prominent players in the National Football League and why they
Speaker 1: should be glued to their television sets for what happens
Speaker 1: on Thursday April. Um, round one and even round two
Speaker 1: and three? You know, but um, let's get going here, Mark,
Speaker 1: throw a name out there. This team has been kind
Speaker 1: of whiplashed and taken down by fans for their lack
Speaker 1: of activity the Cincinnati Bengals, But I I truly think
Speaker 1: that behind the scenes that Zach Taylor has enough buy
Speaker 1: in from ownership on down to explore other quarterbacks and
Speaker 1: to take a shot at one, where the Bengals draftwise
Speaker 1: have done very little of that. In general, there's been little,
Speaker 1: very little threat to Andy Dalton. And I do believe that, uh,
Speaker 1: and this comes from a little whisper her from someone
Speaker 1: too behind the scenes, that this is the year that
Speaker 1: they are going to add with the their They have
Speaker 1: the best pick they've had in a while, number eleven.
Speaker 1: You have a chance to get one of these four
Speaker 1: quarterbacks we just talked about. Which one. Who knows. That's
Speaker 1: not my job, but they're gonna grab one. And I
Speaker 1: don't think that it means that Andy Dalton's, you know,
Speaker 1: going to be replaced come week one. That will take time.
Speaker 1: We'll see how that happens. That always is like, oh,
Speaker 1: they're very comfortable and having Andy Dalton teach this rookie
Speaker 1: that wrote, well, we'll see. Then by week four, when
Speaker 1: the whole ship is sinking, then you make the switch
Speaker 1: like everyone does. Andy Dalton can be moved or cut
Speaker 1: even for literally zero deadcap money and sixteen plus million
Speaker 1: in savings. I don't think that's gonna happen. I think
Speaker 1: it's a trans But finally, and as they should, they're
Speaker 1: going to take a chance on a different quarterback. And
Speaker 1: that would mean, in a Joe Flacco like situation that
Speaker 1: if he's worth anything, this would be the last year
Speaker 1: of the Glowing Red gingerman in as what West likes
Speaker 1: to call the city natty Town. Do not call it
Speaker 1: natty Nats. How does Daniel Jeremiah feel about you giving
Speaker 1: away all the information that did not come from Daniel
Speaker 1: Jeremiah that I can promise you so I would that
Speaker 1: would be too easy to connect those thoughts because I
Speaker 1: mentioned him for four times that we could talk, not
Speaker 1: about this talking to we did see you talk to Bucky?
Speaker 1: Or why would I give that if so much for
Speaker 1: that pep talk. I guess here's the thing, though, even
Speaker 1: if they did draft Um a quarterback, You're right, they
Speaker 1: would ben Janny Dalton the second that they're under five hundred,
Speaker 1: you know, after a quarter or more into the season.
Speaker 1: But there are examples of guys like Alex Smith um
Speaker 1: and is back in the day where I think Gatty
Speaker 1: Dalton is going to be given a shot over any
Speaker 1: of these guys. They're not necessarily viewed, especially where the
Speaker 1: Bengals are drafting, as you know, guys that have to
Speaker 1: be starting right away, and he'll get his shot to
Speaker 1: try to lead them to a winning record. And if
Speaker 1: you don't have it halfway through the season, you've probably
Speaker 1: done in your pep talk, and you made a good
Speaker 1: point that in that two thousand eleven draft there was
Speaker 1: Blaine Gabbard and who's the Christian ponder? Jake Locker and
Speaker 1: Andy Dawl and Kaepernick one pick ahead, and you also
Speaker 1: he's also Sid Daltons had an incredible career, which was
Speaker 1: too strong, But your point was well well made that
Speaker 1: he has been he's been fine as a quarterback, and
Speaker 1: I wonder if it's been better than I bet I
Speaker 1: could go through him, but I bet he's done better
Speaker 1: than you know of the second round pick. My, my, my,
Speaker 1: My take on this is with these again, we're talking
Speaker 1: about the big four that are out there that everyone's
Speaker 1: talking about. What are the chances that one or any
Speaker 1: of those guys is better than Andy Dalton would Cincinnati
Speaker 1: must be better off addressing other needs rather than to
Speaker 1: replace a perfect, the average or above average quarterback. I
Speaker 1: do think they have other needs. In the first one
Speaker 1: precludes putting a rookie quarterback behind that offensive line until
Speaker 1: they fixed that offensive line. I don't want a rookie quarterback.
Speaker 1: Let's let me ask you one one follow up though,
Speaker 1: because I feel like if you go get Zach Taylor
Speaker 1: one of these so called like young offensive minds, and
Speaker 1: unless Zach Taylor simply went in and his absolutely, you know,
Speaker 1: it feels the way Greg does about Andy Dalton, Like
Speaker 1: I I don't think you can tell a new coach
Speaker 1: that there's a mandate to have any power at all.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that job. It's just a new theory
Speaker 1: that because you have an offensive coach, you have to
Speaker 1: get a new quarterback that he wants. Like sometimes the
Speaker 1: GM and the owner are more powerful and say, hey, coach,
Speaker 1: deal with the quarterback on the roster. That could certainly
Speaker 1: be the case, but I don't think it's new to
Speaker 1: think that coaches who view themselves as offensive gurus, whether
Speaker 1: they verbalize that or not, want to pick their own quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: want their own guy in the next that happens. I
Speaker 1: don't think it'd be a bad idea for the Bengals,
Speaker 1: even though I gave that PEP doc to be thinking quarterback,
Speaker 1: whether it's the first or the second round, to to
Speaker 1: try it. They haven't tried anyone in a long time.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to picture Andy Dalton nervous. That feels like,
Speaker 1: oh golly, just put him in a playoff game. I mean,
Speaker 1: he doesn't strike me as nervous or overly confident in
Speaker 1: the middle West, throw another one out there, who's Noive's
Speaker 1: who should be noives? Well, as we know, the NFL
Speaker 1: stands for not for long, so everyone should be nervous
Speaker 1: except Eli Manning, who is gonna run out there and
Speaker 1: he literally calcifies into the statue they want to feature
Speaker 1: outside their state. But the second letuls save a lot
Speaker 1: of money. The second person I thought of after Eli
Speaker 1: is Jimmy Graham because he had a terrible year last
Speaker 1: year for the Packers. He was awful. He didn't block,
Speaker 1: he didn't catch, contested passes, cost West a sandwich, cost
Speaker 1: me a sandwich, which maybe that explains why I'm bitter
Speaker 1: about the way he played last year. And there are
Speaker 1: two Iowa tight ends in the first round who would
Speaker 1: look good in Green Bay. Um, I think Jimmy Graham
Speaker 1: he needs to be concern learned about. He needs to
Speaker 1: be neuivious, does he? I'm trying to remember what his
Speaker 1: contract situation was. Is he a guy who potentially could
Speaker 1: lose his son if you cut him after June one?
Speaker 1: It's eight million dead, four million in savings, which is
Speaker 1: tenable if you're gonna if you wanted to move on
Speaker 1: from the paid him though five millions that he was
Speaker 1: someone where I don't think he would be too nervous
Speaker 1: because in his mind he probably is like I got
Speaker 1: one more big time year to get paid and then
Speaker 1: and he got it. They gave it to him on
Speaker 1: He should be nervous about his snaps, right, but he
Speaker 1: got it five days into the league here. I thought
Speaker 1: he might get cut to your point, Mark and they
Speaker 1: could have gotten out of it. But they gave him
Speaker 1: five million guaranteed, so he's on that rock. I think
Speaker 1: Mercedes Lewis would be quickly applying for jobs elsewhere. He's
Speaker 1: purely blocking at this point. I can't believe he's still
Speaker 1: in the league. All right, Um, I'll throw it out there,
Speaker 1: all right, this is more well, well, it concerns the
Speaker 1: man as well, and I'm sure he wouldn't be thrilled
Speaker 1: about it. But um, when I talk about nerves rams fans,
Speaker 1: maybe UM would be more nervous about the draft if
Speaker 1: I told you there's a chance, what if they you know,
Speaker 1: go and find a Todd Gurley compliment higher than people expect,
Speaker 1: because what what do we know about the Todd gurleyy situation,
Speaker 1: just that it is not something that's potentially gonna heal overnight,
Speaker 1: that it's something that has to be I believe the
Speaker 1: word was maintained going forward. I mean there was a
Speaker 1: lot of talk at the combine from the leaders of
Speaker 1: the RAMS that this is a situation that's it's kind
Speaker 1: of a new reality around the RAMS. And if I'm
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley, I'm wondering what happens here because they let C. J.
Speaker 1: Anderson walk. Uh, they resigned Malcolm Brown, but to peanuts
Speaker 1: he makes relatively Um, so what is what is else?
Speaker 1: What's in their backfield? Uh? What if they have at
Speaker 1: the thirty first overall pick? You know what if they
Speaker 1: are attempted to to grab someone to thunder and lightning
Speaker 1: or just give Todd Gurley the rest, if they really
Speaker 1: if if Todd Gurley isn't actually a financial investment, uh
Speaker 1: for them, it probably behooves them to have someone in
Speaker 1: there that he could split the workload with. Uh there's
Speaker 1: one name I'll throw out there. I'm not a draft expert,
Speaker 1: but I've been reading up on some of Josh Jacobs
Speaker 1: of Alabama is supposed to be the guy that um
Speaker 1: goes in the first round, the running back that goes
Speaker 1: in the first round. A lot of mocks. In fact,
Speaker 1: all of our experts on NFL dot Com all have
Speaker 1: them going except with the exception of one. Analysts have
Speaker 1: him going to the Eagles. At that's kind of where
Speaker 1: he's going right now. Uh, mid to late first round.
Speaker 1: Would the Rams potentially go get Jacobs or someone else? Uh?
Speaker 1: They also have the pick in the third round something
Speaker 1: to track as the Todd Gurley mystery goes on, they'd
Speaker 1: be insane and they'd get killed. You know, they had
Speaker 1: they just gave Todd Gurley that money. What's the money for?
Speaker 1: They just in Malcolm Brown. He's only making two million.
Speaker 1: That actually one of the highest paid backups in the league.
Speaker 1: I think they've got so many issues because they're a
Speaker 1: young team. But they haven't had many draft picks lately,
Speaker 1: like any high draft picks. And they're missing a second
Speaker 1: rounder again this year. I'm not sure which trade that
Speaker 1: was part of. I'm sure any research could have picked
Speaker 1: that up. But like they've got one pick in the
Speaker 1: top of nineties. It's like, well, I'm just saying why
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like I've mentioned that because anyone listening can
Speaker 1: easily what I'm saying is you say it's insane. But
Speaker 1: what if what we're hearing is that Todd Gurley no
Speaker 1: longer is. I think that's getting overblown. I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna be I think it's gonna be a big part
Speaker 1: of their I think he's gonna be a big part
Speaker 1: of their offense. And so worst case scenario, he's like
Speaker 1: splitting you know, he's he's one A to Malcolm Brown's
Speaker 1: one B and that's why you paid Malcolm. What I
Speaker 1: would find absolutely um delicious about it is this that
Speaker 1: everything they've said over and over, contrary to you know,
Speaker 1: flying to Switzerland or whatever, said other things, he's doing
Speaker 1: it to pick to get his knee looked at. Like
Speaker 1: he's absolutely fine, everything's absolutely fine, Like we have no concerns.
Speaker 1: He's going to be the same player he ever was.
Speaker 1: We're also going to have someone else take some of
Speaker 1: the workload up. But then if you drafted someone at
Speaker 1: thirty one, you can't roll into that press conference with
Speaker 1: all these benign statements. So I don't I don't mean
Speaker 1: it would be happening, but it would. I just think
Speaker 1: they have huge. They have other big market high alright, uh,
Speaker 1: end of the first round. But if they use it
Speaker 1: on either of their three picks they have, as I said,
Speaker 1: in the third round, that's going to just, you know,
Speaker 1: build more drama around the situation about how much rest
Speaker 1: girl he's gonna need going forward. I really like Malcolm Brown.
Speaker 1: I think they do too. All Right, you're up. I'm
Speaker 1: you know. You said notable players when we're like prominent
Speaker 1: players that should be nervous. I don't know if mine's
Speaker 1: really that prominent, Gina, but I don't care. It's a
Speaker 1: prominent position that swing TA talk about. Damian Williams of
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. He's all excited, he's all excited
Speaker 1: about finally being like guy. He is the starting running
Speaker 1: back right now for the Kansas City Chiefs. Carlos Hyde
Speaker 1: is probably the backup, and they've talked up Damian Williams
Speaker 1: is like this guy is He's gonna get a chance.
Speaker 1: He looked really exciting last year. But when I think
Speaker 1: of guys that should be nervous going into the draft,
Speaker 1: it's not so much superstars with guaranteed money. It's guys
Speaker 1: that have never really quite at an opportunity like Damian
Speaker 1: Williams and he's thinking, this is my chance. And the
Speaker 1: Chiefs are in this weird spot with the Tyreek Hill
Speaker 1: situation hanging over their heads. Uh. You know, they adapted
Speaker 1: to life without Kareem Hunt quite well. Their their offensive
Speaker 1: lines a little bit in transition. Uh. I just think
Speaker 1: that they're gonna need another running back that they're not
Speaker 1: going to go into the season with. Damian Williams is
Speaker 1: their clear starter, even though I thought he looked great
Speaker 1: last year. And that's a guy where one year as
Speaker 1: the chief starter, could you know, change his life. I'd
Speaker 1: be worried if Damian Williams wasn't almost a perfect fit
Speaker 1: for the Andy Reid offense that they came out. The
Speaker 1: one thing about Brett Veach, I feel like he says
Speaker 1: what's on his mind. I don't think he's um at
Speaker 1: the point where he's like spinning whispers left and right,
Speaker 1: where he's able to fool everyone in the room. Like
Speaker 1: all last offseason he kept telling us Patrick Mahomes like,
Speaker 1: we're all in, we love me, He's the best player
Speaker 1: we've ever seen. And they just went on and on
Speaker 1: about Damian Williams that they love his fit, and they
Speaker 1: love the way he played, and he costs next to nothing,
Speaker 1: like he could have competition. But he's a good fit.
Speaker 1: That's the If he wasn't, I'd be more concerned. I
Speaker 1: feel like he should be cautiously optimistic about where he
Speaker 1: is right now, right with an eye on the draft, like, oh, wait,
Speaker 1: are they really going to let me? Because in it
Speaker 1: all it would take is a third or fourth round
Speaker 1: pick that you actually hit on and then that guy's
Speaker 1: you're starting week one. Yep, alright, one more time around
Speaker 1: the horn. Mark, Well, Dan, I don't mean to do this, um,
Speaker 1: because this is your guy. What was also like two
Speaker 1: other people's guys in this room at various times, but
Speaker 1: three time making the leap candidate Lamar Miller. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know that, I know the Texans. Oh this is
Speaker 1: one where I feel like they protest too much, where
Speaker 1: they keep telling us that Lamar Miller is everything they
Speaker 1: could ever asked for at the starting running back position.
Speaker 1: But you look at that whole running back round. There's
Speaker 1: injury questions around the rest of the crew and Miller
Speaker 1: to me, you could cut him and it would cost
Speaker 1: you one million dollars. Not that they need to cut him,
Speaker 1: but it's just that he's not the future and there's
Speaker 1: no reason not to grab another running back because they
Speaker 1: also ignored, essentially outside of UM taking Matt Khalil and
Speaker 1: free agency, their entire offensive line. So I don't know
Speaker 1: where you get that running back. I'm not saying it's
Speaker 1: a first round pick, but that position needs to be
Speaker 1: addressed for a more balanced offense in Houston. I think
Speaker 1: Lamar Miller would be the odd man out at the
Speaker 1: hit hit on someone Um. Greg. You and I were
Speaker 1: standing next to each other when Pearl River native and
Speaker 1: Texans general manager Brian Gaines spoke, and I remember it
Speaker 1: registering in my head that he was kind of going
Speaker 1: through the motions in terms of praising uh, Lamar Miller's
Speaker 1: like he called him at three down back, and he
Speaker 1: said that he almost ran for a thousand yards, as
Speaker 1: if running for a thousand yards was almost And you
Speaker 1: just got the feeling between his underwhelming season outside that
Speaker 1: one Thursday night game and the Doctor Freeman coming off
Speaker 1: the torn achilles in the back that there's gonna be
Speaker 1: someone else in there, and the fact that they didn't
Speaker 1: use free agency. I'd be really surprised if they didn't use. Um.
Speaker 1: Let's see there, they pick twenty three, so they're right
Speaker 1: in the Josh Jacobs area according to draft experts, and
Speaker 1: then they have two second round picks fifty four and
Speaker 1: fifty five. I would think of running back ends up
Speaker 1: being picked there, and I can save six million by
Speaker 1: cutting him, and they could use the money. Couldn't we
Speaker 1: all well that kind of money? Please? I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: here on Wednesday. You would quit if you were rich.
Speaker 1: Now I would not. I would actually think would be
Speaker 1: much more easy to do any job that you enjoy.
Speaker 1: If you suddenly just for wicked rich, you'd start giving
Speaker 1: more people a piece of your mind. That might be true,
Speaker 1: a little guff, give people some guff. No one would
Speaker 1: have any rule over me at on any level. Mark,
Speaker 1: what do you think about the idea of Aunt Becky
Speaker 1: doing time for the college admission scam? Do you think
Speaker 1: she should gotta yell? Do you think she should go
Speaker 1: to prison for this? Yes? Or no? Totally unrelated but money, No,
Speaker 1: because I think that what would happen is she would
Speaker 1: be put in one of those um, those very rich
Speaker 1: people prisons where you're allowed to like uh mate with
Speaker 1: your partner and read like books right off the tennis. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like it's sort of like, are you describing the
Speaker 1: rest of development? Yeah, it's like I I think that
Speaker 1: anyone would want to be in that situation where you
Speaker 1: don't really have any responsibility other than to read all
Speaker 1: day long and eat meals and then you're out. Mark's
Speaker 1: newtake prison. That's avat. I don't like. I don't like
Speaker 1: what she did, um that whatever. I mean, it just
Speaker 1: seems like a rich person type crime, like something else
Speaker 1: should be done to her. All right, let's just curious
Speaker 1: your thoughts. It's hard to follow. I actually I wanted
Speaker 1: to see if I could get a defensive player in here.
Speaker 1: Two time Pro Bowler Dolphins safety Rashad Jones coming off
Speaker 1: labor SIR three struggles and coverage do thirteen million this year,
Speaker 1: and they reportedly want to move Minca Fitzpatrick to safety.
Speaker 1: If they draft another safety, Sean Jones might find himself
Speaker 1: without a job. I can see that new coaching staff
Speaker 1: shortly had quiet profusely sitting on his couch a quietly
Speaker 1: had a you know, controversy. I don't even know if
Speaker 1: we ever mentioned on this show where you know he
Speaker 1: left the field last year. There was some Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: remember you know, kind of are we in the fish stake?
Speaker 1: I think I think we're back in the back in
Speaker 1: the fish stake. Today he told that he pulled himself
Speaker 1: from the game, kind of like our reverse when Santonio
Speaker 1: Holmes got kicked out of the huddle. Wo. He counts
Speaker 1: seventeen point one six million dollars against the cap this year.
Speaker 1: That is insane. Would that make it more confident or
Speaker 1: less confident? I think they could and he doesn't gonna
Speaker 1: get that money. If they caught him after June one
Speaker 1: or trade him after June first, I think they can
Speaker 1: save a ton of money. Um, I'd be Nois. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna throw this name out there because I thought you
Speaker 1: were gonna do it Mark, And I don't know what
Speaker 1: Gregg's last one is, and I think we should hit him.
Speaker 1: Um the Raiders, Derek Carr. Uh. It just as as
Speaker 1: much as we're hearing all the all the positive things,
Speaker 1: if Dave Gentleman has taught taught me anything in this
Speaker 1: lost off season for the Giants, it's just not to
Speaker 1: believe anybody when they say anything. Uh. And as much
Speaker 1: as John Gruden has said positive things about Car, it
Speaker 1: comes down to this boys. It's been a long time
Speaker 1: since this happened. I think the Jets had it back
Speaker 1: in two thousand. Uh. One of my historians here can
Speaker 1: help me out what the researchers a little bit of
Speaker 1: research and help research. But the four first round picks
Speaker 1: for the Raiders, and I'm thinking to myself, when a
Speaker 1: team has a bounty like that, one of those four
Speaker 1: first round picks won't be a quarterback. Certainly could happen.
Speaker 1: I mean, they could go all the courts, all different routes,
Speaker 1: but I wonder if it's John Gruden's final domino in
Speaker 1: this massive rebuild. I don't and I'm not saying I
Speaker 1: think it should happen or I think it will happen,
Speaker 1: But I think if I'm Derek Carr, I'm very nervous
Speaker 1: for draft day because can I trust this guy? Do do? I?
Speaker 1: I know, you know everyone's putting out the story that
Speaker 1: we get along well, but can I trust him when
Speaker 1: there are four first round picks on Here's why I
Speaker 1: didn't put them at the top of my list. Was
Speaker 1: like Rashad Jones number one, A hundred thousand dollars. They
Speaker 1: say if they cut them and they lose all the
Speaker 1: rest and dead money. And I looked at Derek carrs
Speaker 1: they save a hundred thousand dollars if they cut them,
Speaker 1: and they are on the hook for twenty two point
Speaker 1: four millions, so you have to but they can keep
Speaker 1: them this year. You could keep them and that right,
Speaker 1: so you keep them this year and then you move
Speaker 1: you can you can deal that down the road, or
Speaker 1: you could try to move them, which we've discussed some
Speaker 1: scenarios that could potentially I growd into Grooden type thing
Speaker 1: or whatever, but we don't here. There's no buzz around that.
Speaker 1: But I agree with you that the visits we keep
Speaker 1: about with Oakland over and over our quarterbacks. They are
Speaker 1: looking at quarterbacks. It's not one of these teams where
Speaker 1: we've got our guy and there's no curiosity. There is
Speaker 1: a clear curiosity. And I thought it was interesting he did,
Speaker 1: uh you know, he did a little social media testing
Speaker 1: to the waters there, you know, just sending the eyes
Speaker 1: emojis last week when they were hosting Kyler Murray. So
Speaker 1: that's the guy that's nervous. And let me correct myself.
Speaker 1: They have three first round picks, but there um fourth
Speaker 1: pick in the draft is thirty five overall, So it's
Speaker 1: right out. It's right in the second beginning of the
Speaker 1: second round. So this is a team with four quarterbacks
Speaker 1: that everyone says we'll go top thirty, top forty, maybe
Speaker 1: top twenty. There are four names out there, and there's
Speaker 1: Derek Carr and John Gruden, who has been on a
Speaker 1: quest for you know, fourteen months in counting or whatever,
Speaker 1: rebuilding this roster in his own and his own image.
Speaker 1: Will he survived? You can also trade Derek Carr in
Speaker 1: October when someone's knee gets you know, absolutely removed from
Speaker 1: their body. Yes, always do that. Once again, Mark rooting
Speaker 1: for injuries. No, I'm not rooting for it. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: be smart with your trade options. Close it out. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with James Conner. I think that the Steelers
Speaker 1: really fell part in part because they didn't have anyone
Speaker 1: behind James Conner. As I think James Conner is the
Speaker 1: third round pick behind the best offensive line in the league,
Speaker 1: and he's good. But are they going to go into
Speaker 1: the year just with James Conner and just hoping a
Speaker 1: that he can stay healthy, which you know, he had
Speaker 1: a lot of workload last year, and so I'm not
Speaker 1: going to kill him for not making it through the season,
Speaker 1: but be they don't have anyone behind him at all,
Speaker 1: and it who knows the second or third round pick
Speaker 1: in this draft, which it's not top heavy at running
Speaker 1: back but fairly deep. I think they could bring in
Speaker 1: some competition for him. You're thinking overall workload, though it's
Speaker 1: not going to be replaced as the starter for good.
Speaker 1: I mean he was a third round pick. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't look, I don't view I think
Speaker 1: he's a great player, but I don't view him. If
Speaker 1: they did draft someone as someone that would be question
Speaker 1: that surprises. He was one of the most productive running
Speaker 1: backs in the league when he was healthy. He was
Speaker 1: really good. And it wouldn't be something where you would
Speaker 1: think the guy would come in and be a Week
Speaker 1: one starter. But are they going into the year with
Speaker 1: James Conner and Jalen Samuels and to me, running back
Speaker 1: of any position sometimes it was six, second, third, fourth
Speaker 1: round picks. I mean, we've seen it over and over
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Or they come in and
Speaker 1: they're very productive, like James Conner or like Cream Hunt
Speaker 1: right away, and and and then he's got some some heat.
Speaker 1: That's a great situation to be in to be the
Speaker 1: running back on that team. Hell yeah, great line, great
Speaker 1: quarterback playmakers everywhere? Do it all right? Good talk, guys.
Speaker 1: One last thing, We've had several British listeners request that
Speaker 1: we talked about Christian Wade, rugby star who just signed
Speaker 1: with the Buffalo Bills on their international player program. And
Speaker 1: what do we think he's going to be. We have
Speaker 1: no idea. I mean, I've never seen him play rugby,
Speaker 1: much less play in the NFL. I will say that
Speaker 1: of all all the positions where talent matters more than skill,
Speaker 1: running back would be pretty close to the top. You
Speaker 1: could come in and do it. That said, until you
Speaker 1: see the guy play football, how will we know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't see him coming in and unseating Lashawn McCoy
Speaker 1: kind of learned from an all time great and Frank
Speaker 1: Gore the right way to be a running back. I mean,
Speaker 1: we had Jared Hank come in with the forty Niners
Speaker 1: and he was supposed to be one of the better
Speaker 1: rugby players. I know, I'm gonna get all kinds of
Speaker 1: tweets union rugby versus League rugby and all these other
Speaker 1: different kinds of rugby. Whatever. This guy was hyped so
Speaker 1: much and like barely made an impact. What's funny you
Speaker 1: say you don't know you know what's gonna happen with him?
Speaker 1: I do, um two forty six yards this year, but
Speaker 1: next year becomes a legit international uh star success story
Speaker 1: one thousand fifty yards as the starter would be against
Speaker 1: him making the final fifty three man Brian game to
Speaker 1: be thrilled about that fifty yards killer. Alright, good rugby,
Speaker 1: talk good luck to that man, and uh we'll be
Speaker 1: back on Thursday, our next uh time. We're all together. Well,
Speaker 1: we're on NFL network every day now. Um, they're using
Speaker 1: us right now. And I made the analogy before the show.
Speaker 1: It's like you go to summer camp and you're all
Speaker 1: of a sudden you're the pretty girl and and he
Speaker 1: wants to take you to the dance, and then you
Speaker 1: go back to school in September. And also you know
Speaker 1: he's also back at school with everybody else, and he's
Speaker 1: not paying attention anymore. We're getting a lot of tension
Speaker 1: on network right now. That's good. What happens when we
Speaker 1: go back to school, We're gonna get that same attention.
Speaker 1: It's a fair point, apt I think we're gonna get
Speaker 1: probably dumped. So you can check us out on Up
Speaker 1: to Up to the Minute on NFL Network Monday through Friday, UM.
Speaker 1: And our next time together here in the studio is
Speaker 1: our Twitter Show, which again we haven't been great about
Speaker 1: promoting it, but also the Shadowy League figures have been
Speaker 1: moving this thing all around the dial. But right now
Speaker 1: we are on Wednesday morning, ten thirty a m. Pacific
Speaker 1: one thirty pm Eastern, and I believe that's six thirty
Speaker 1: in um London, London time over in the UK. I
Speaker 1: don't know that there's some five hours ahead of New York,
Speaker 1: but there's a time that we didn't move with them
Speaker 1: on the daylight savings I believe. Anyway, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Check out the Twitter show and then our next podcast
Speaker 1: audio show will be Thursday. Connie Fox will be back
Speaker 1: with us. Um uh so check that out. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get out of here. Stan hands a signing off
Speaker 1: for Quiet Storm, the Mailman, the old Boss Ricky Hollywood
Speaker 1: behind the glass. Still was that