Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast got Welcome to another edition
Speaker 1: of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan
Speaker 1: Hanss and I am joined in the room build with
Speaker 1: heroes Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg Rosehal What is
Speaker 1: up boys, hey man? We made it back the Big
Speaker 1: Chris Westling actualor Party, the final bit of pomp and
Speaker 1: circumstance ahead of the big wedding which is coming up
Speaker 1: in less than a month now over in Tybee Island.
Speaker 1: And we had a nice uh two nights in San Diego,
Speaker 1: and we had a lot of fun. And we're all
Speaker 1: here together, which means no one is arrested or in
Speaker 1: Tijuana or anywhere else. Mark dead or dead, no one died.
Speaker 1: It was from that angle a success. But I mean
Speaker 1: I left thinking that we you know, if you're Lakisha
Speaker 1: the Paramore and you were to witness the fifties straight
Speaker 1: hours of our time together, I think she'd come out
Speaker 1: of that experience thinking these are four upstanding, um middle aged.
Speaker 1: It didn't get it didn't get overly wild, which is
Speaker 1: which is what I wanted. But it was a great time.
Speaker 1: It was exactly what I needed. A couple of reds
Speaker 1: wins um Greg and Dan beating Mark and I in
Speaker 1: seven games series of corn hoole. We just needed six,
Speaker 1: but yeah, we didn't. Weren't going to bring that up.
Speaker 1: It was year weekend. But since you well, you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta have. You have to own the loss when
Speaker 1: it happens. That is one of those losses, Um, that
Speaker 1: will stick to Wes's legacy. Unfortunately, you hate that it
Speaker 1: falls on a bachelor party weekend in honor of him.
Speaker 1: But also of course Mark, who really in his cornhole.
Speaker 1: He had been out of the game for a while
Speaker 1: and he came back a little rusty at first, but
Speaker 1: by the end of the series was really throwing well.
Speaker 1: But it's sad, um, Greg, that history will remember beyond
Speaker 1: anything else, the final throw of the six of the
Speaker 1: hundreds and hundreds of throws. History will remember. It was
Speaker 1: kind of a Chris Webber time out situation. Ultimately, Mark
Speaker 1: and West they weren't winning that game, they weren't winning
Speaker 1: the series. Most likely they were in. They were in,
Speaker 1: they were in trouble. They were it was just about
Speaker 1: done and Mark overall had a great performance like Chris
Speaker 1: Webber's college career. But all anyone remembers about that, uh,
Speaker 1: Michigan lost. Was Chris Webber making that time out and
Speaker 1: when West, when Mark knocked to a mine in it
Speaker 1: just was tough. I think it's an apt comparison for
Speaker 1: this reason. Michigan, Michigan was gonna lose that game anyway
Speaker 1: and regardless of time. But I mean paid a picture. Greg.
Speaker 1: So the throw, uh it's point game for Greg and Dan.
Speaker 1: Mark has the last throw of the round. I believe
Speaker 1: it's twenty twenty twelve in that range. I had to
Speaker 1: keep us alive and keep you right. I had had
Speaker 1: one more to go. Mark throws it up in the air.
Speaker 1: It hits about six you know, four to six inches
Speaker 1: uh to the right of the whole, tapping both of
Speaker 1: Greg's bags that were sitting next to into the whole.
Speaker 1: That's a six point score more than the obviously what
Speaker 1: we needed, which is one. Uh. So that will be
Speaker 1: played in perpetuity on the corn hole channel, which probably
Speaker 1: somewhere on direct TV. I mean just that was also
Speaker 1: would have been my fourth bag on the board, and
Speaker 1: so it was this It would have been a very
Speaker 1: well total narrative shift because this guy that has given
Speaker 1: up on parlor games, I thought it was going to
Speaker 1: be in a complete embarrassment. I thought I hung around
Speaker 1: didn't embarrass West for the most part, but that last
Speaker 1: shot is the only real replay they would need of
Speaker 1: the entire affair, which is a disaster, a total disaster. No,
Speaker 1: your your improvement needs to be noted because that makes
Speaker 1: it breaks the Bachelor party if you if you do
Speaker 1: bad at the first game and it's not even competitive,
Speaker 1: it's not a good time. But but almost the first
Speaker 1: four or five games where eighteen eighteen had right a
Speaker 1: bit of an eye opener. How good and competitive the
Speaker 1: matchup is with just the four of us, we don't
Speaker 1: need anybody else to have great corn. We had to
Speaker 1: eighteen eighteens and one nineteen nine team out of the
Speaker 1: six games, so that tells you everything you need to know.
Speaker 1: A few more takeaways I had we dug in. V
Speaker 1: H one is now airing Cheaters Marathon, the TV series
Speaker 1: the Fidelity show Cheaters. Uh they early morning fair if
Speaker 1: you're not feeling up back to back to back to
Speaker 1: back to back episode. They are a five hour block
Speaker 1: from about seven to noon, and no joke, we watched
Speaker 1: the entire marathon on Friday morning or Saturday morning, so
Speaker 1: that was interesting. Friday morning it was and then um
Speaker 1: Mark Mark was nearly assaulted by a woman of generous
Speaker 1: carriage outside of Bubbs at the ballpark, the the the
Speaker 1: popular bar right next to Petco Park where the Padres play.
Speaker 1: Um And that was a close call because that woman,
Speaker 1: she could do some damage potentially. I mean a lot
Speaker 1: of near misses. That was the case. Good a good
Speaker 1: near miss. That was the only point where I felt
Speaker 1: like the group or one of the group was in
Speaker 1: danger because she was looking to throw hands. I came
Speaker 1: home to man also wasn't pleased with Mark. Like an
Speaker 1: hour before that, everything I was doing was trying to
Speaker 1: take our gathering and take it up a notch two.
Speaker 1: And that does not always comply with people attempting to
Speaker 1: control events such as bouncers. And uh, this female whoever
Speaker 1: she was. And I'm turning thirty nine tomorrow, and I
Speaker 1: had to tell you, so I've been doing bachelor parties
Speaker 1: now for you know, twelve to fifteen years. It's my
Speaker 1: first one in a while. The back to backs. It's
Speaker 1: like the nine NBA Lockout season, Uh, where you just
Speaker 1: saw guys dragon because they weren't in shape, they were
Speaker 1: kind of not ready for it. That's me now at
Speaker 1: a bachelor party. So I don't have too many left.
Speaker 1: My brother is not married yet. I have some cousins, Um,
Speaker 1: but West, you might be my last close friend yet
Speaker 1: to tie the knot. And that's fine. I think. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm basically I've done my duty in the bachelor party realm.
Speaker 1: I feel like I've been a big contributor. I have
Speaker 1: some MVP awards on the mantel. I've always tried to
Speaker 1: do my best, but my body is not willing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get that good analysis, excellent leadership out of all
Speaker 1: three of you, especially you driving. Um. I arrived home
Speaker 1: with nothing left in the tank. I was able to
Speaker 1: go back to back, but I I left it all
Speaker 1: on the field as you should have. Jordan after the
Speaker 1: flu game, well I don't. I don't know about the flu,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it was a good time. All right, let's
Speaker 1: get into We got a lot of to hit coming
Speaker 1: up later. Yes, it's the return of Go Get my
Speaker 1: Lunch yet third the two thousand nineteen NFL Draft Edition. Yes,
Speaker 1: the Draft is finally here's Draft week, so we will
Speaker 1: get into um props predictions from each of us with
Speaker 1: sandwiches on the line and this year. This is the
Speaker 1: year we're gonna pay them all off? How about that?
Speaker 1: Instead of talking about it, this segment has become everyone's saying, well,
Speaker 1: it's not like I gotta pay them off anyway, It's
Speaker 1: not like they ever give it. But in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: Fresh Slate Sandwiches get paid. So paid off based on
Speaker 1: these props and not all the childs. We're just the
Speaker 1: standings remain as long as we're not paying all of
Speaker 1: that off. Because I would be yes and Nick Fortier,
Speaker 1: I'd go get my lunch. Dot com does tremendous work
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Speaker 1: check out the history of the game. Here we go.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do that. Also some news to get to.
Speaker 1: Uh so, Ricky Hollywood. Uh we're hoping you would make
Speaker 1: an impromptu appearance Slash cameo down in San Diego. Didn't
Speaker 1: see it, but you were in our thoughts. Thanks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm kind of bombed. I missed out on four
Speaker 1: dudes watching VH one early in the morning for your
Speaker 1: bachelor party. What the heck? You is? Disappointed? But you
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get out and get going at nine
Speaker 1: in the morning, Go go get brunch, go, get we
Speaker 1: each go. Do you know that sounds like that sounds
Speaker 1: like a bachelorette party. Oh, let's make sure we get
Speaker 1: brunch in the morning. I heard a really cute place downtown.
Speaker 1: You went so hard last night. Vhe marathon. Let's watch
Speaker 1: a very very like guy thing to do when we
Speaker 1: don't really know what else to do with each other
Speaker 1: for like four straight hours. So it's like, just comment
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Speaker 1: All right, let's get going interesting news out of Oakland
Speaker 1: and really to me? And this this did pop up
Speaker 1: during our Cheaters marathon has only learned about it interrupted us. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: Mike Mayock and John Gruden, the brain trust of the
Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders. Well, they decided to kind of shrink things
Speaker 1: down the old circle of trust. Ahead of Thursday, Mayock
Speaker 1: and Gruden sent their scouts home for the weekend and
Speaker 1: do not expect them to return by draft time. Rap
Speaker 1: Sheet reported on Friday. Rap Report added that Gruden and
Speaker 1: Mayock quote don't know who to trust among the scouts
Speaker 1: and quote wanted to clear the room. According to the
Speaker 1: Raiders website, Uh, they employed fourteen people in their personnel department. Uh,
Speaker 1: not all of them are scouts. Um, but the director
Speaker 1: of College Scouting, Shawan Herrock, was hired by Reggie Mackenzie
Speaker 1: in two thousand twelve, the former GM. He was inherited
Speaker 1: when Mackenzie left the organization in December. Uh. So Greg
Speaker 1: will start with you on this one. This is to me,
Speaker 1: this is kind of warmed the cockles on my heart
Speaker 1: a little bit because this feels like a very fun
Speaker 1: Raiders type move. It's kind of absurd and a little
Speaker 1: bit crazy and troubling if I'm a fan of that team.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's good to see the
Speaker 1: Raiders being the Raiders. I agree, it reminded me of
Speaker 1: an alt It just feels like we're back in the
Speaker 1: Al Davis era. And that got me thinking, like Gruden
Speaker 1: really is the perfect successor to al Davis, that maybe
Speaker 1: eventually he will have a partial ownership. Like we joke
Speaker 1: about this ten year contric Maybe it's just John Gruden
Speaker 1: moving forward because I I see this sort of paranoid,
Speaker 1: a little crazy move. It's not that big a deal,
Speaker 1: and I think John Gruden, I don't think Mike Mayock
Speaker 1: has anything to do with this. I could say from
Speaker 1: another angle that this borders on non news minus the timing,
Speaker 1: because it dates back d n A wise to a
Speaker 1: lot of people still mostly tied to Reggie Mackenzie, his
Speaker 1: twin brother, Rally or Raleigh. However, you Dan want to
Speaker 1: pronounce that he was still on the staff. So it's
Speaker 1: like this is this was someone that clearly Gruden was
Speaker 1: never on the same page with and you couldn't have
Speaker 1: fired them last offseason. So but it's essentially saying, hey,
Speaker 1: if you worked or came in with Reggie Mackenzie, who
Speaker 1: is by all accounts a great human being, then we
Speaker 1: don't trust you. But that happens all the time. Though, Well,
Speaker 1: that something didn't work because there's a story that came
Speaker 1: out five minutes ago for me and Rappaport, not detailing
Speaker 1: the Raiders plans, but saying explaining that they did this
Speaker 1: because the Raiders are planning a surprise pick at number four. Right,
Speaker 1: I love it. Right, It's like a move out of
Speaker 1: nowhere that no one sees coming. And then Ian tried
Speaker 1: to guess a million different options, just like you know,
Speaker 1: different different types of picks, and they're and they're afraid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he guess Devan. Wait. He also was like, maybe a quarterback,
Speaker 1: maybe it's Askins uh uh, and that they yeah, they
Speaker 1: they fear the lead. Someone leaked to Ian that the
Speaker 1: pick at number four is expected to be a surprise.
Speaker 1: It's a trick. Every pick technically a surprise, except for
Speaker 1: number one. I don't really know what it is. Surprisingly,
Speaker 1: like five or six Tier one guys in this draft,
Speaker 1: and maybe they're taking a Tier two times. Here's what
Speaker 1: I think you can take from it, though, that the
Speaker 1: entire scouting department basically is irrelevant except for Grooden and Mayak. Well,
Speaker 1: it's pretty interesting they're irrelevant after a certain data tells
Speaker 1: me is that for the most part, they've been irrelevant
Speaker 1: for months, like they're doing some groundwork, but the only
Speaker 1: two people that really matter is Grooten Mayock's for this
Speaker 1: about this time of the year at the draft, the
Speaker 1: scouter out of the process that you know, it's now
Speaker 1: it's in the decision maker's hands. Yeah, for the most part,
Speaker 1: and mostly people are getting fired to be clear, or
Speaker 1: their contract is up, so most of them aren't coming back.
Speaker 1: My first thought was, and when we when this happened
Speaker 1: in the middle of watching i think episode four of
Speaker 1: eight of Cheaters, that that why if you're gonna bench
Speaker 1: these guys publicly and to some degree humiliate them and
Speaker 1: all the work they've done over the last year plus,
Speaker 1: then that to me would trigger leaks, not keep people
Speaker 1: in good employee mode until next week. And secondly, Charlie Castlely,
Speaker 1: who like obviously sat it on a billion War Rooms,
Speaker 1: talked about how back in the day with the Texans
Speaker 1: and and forget the Redskins, that was way but even
Speaker 1: with the Texans that friends and family and all sorts
Speaker 1: of people would pile into the worm because that's the
Speaker 1: day that you celebrate. But now with Twitter, like leaks
Speaker 1: could happen at any moments, so maybe it's just a lockdown.
Speaker 1: But with the trigger back effect toward these disgruntled employees
Speaker 1: probably are looking for Ian's phone number. Here's um some
Speaker 1: more insight. Moved the sticks, Daniel Jeremiah. When I started
Speaker 1: scouting in two thousand three, most teams allowed scouts and
Speaker 1: coaches to see the draft board. By two thousand twelve,
Speaker 1: most teams only allowed three to four people hedge, head, coach, GM,
Speaker 1: personnel director, college director to have access to the board.
Speaker 1: So he doesn't think it's that unusual. Gil Brand had
Speaker 1: a little fired back to that too, was like, with
Speaker 1: all due respect, it's unusual. Yeah, screw bro um. Gil
Speaker 1: Brand said this. We never cleared the room. He was
Speaker 1: a former, of course, general manager of the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: before Jerry Jones got there. We never cleared the room,
Speaker 1: but sometimes we lay traps for scouts we didn't trust.
Speaker 1: In nineteen seven, we showed our board to a scout
Speaker 1: with us talking taking Mike Junkin, a linebacker we didn't like.
Speaker 1: Two days later, Cowboys beat writer Jim Dent wrote wrote
Speaker 1: a story saying we were taking junkin hook line stinker.
Speaker 1: Gil drops the hammer. Mike Junkin, who went to the
Speaker 1: Browns and faded out of the NFL within weeks, I
Speaker 1: think killed me what he was doing. The Raiders own
Speaker 1: three first round picks. He'll also compared Daniel Jones to
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning and and made it sound like it might
Speaker 1: be his favorite quarterback in the draft. Alright, moving on, So, yes,
Speaker 1: the Raiders seven on Thursday, Cardinals number one three days.
Speaker 1: We are four days away and the Cardinals are in
Speaker 1: final preparation for the big moment. Rap Sheet reports that
Speaker 1: Cardinals brass GM Steve Kime, coach Cliff Kingsbury, and owner
Speaker 1: Michael Bidwill not bid well. Do not say bid well?
Speaker 1: That is that lead to a misspelling bid will We'll
Speaker 1: have a final meeting over the next couple of days
Speaker 1: to discuss their options at number one, per sources. Rap
Speaker 1: Report added that the Cardinals have received fielder calls from
Speaker 1: teams inquiring about trading up as well. West of course,
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is widely believed the Oklahoma quarterback to go
Speaker 1: to the Cardinals at number one. And so do you
Speaker 1: put anything into these final reports ahead of the draft?
Speaker 1: I put in the same thing I've been putting in
Speaker 1: the last couple of months that probably Kyler Murray is
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury's guy. We don't know who Steve Kimes guy is,
Speaker 1: but we know he drafted Josh Rosen. So I think
Speaker 1: it's smart to keep all your options open until you
Speaker 1: actually make the pick. And maybe that's what the Carse
Speaker 1: been doing, right why not listen? I mean, Peter King
Speaker 1: mentioned this morning that for many in the building, Nick
Speaker 1: Bosa is their choice. So there's clearly like some division
Speaker 1: and there has been all along here, right. I don't
Speaker 1: put like I got a text from someone that was like,
Speaker 1: what's going on with all this you know, mess going
Speaker 1: on with the Cardinals? And I had to think, like,
Speaker 1: what is even the mess? And I think it's referring to,
Speaker 1: you know, some of these reports that that the Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray pick was almost tested, you know, to the public,
Speaker 1: like that they wanted to feel the reaction of of
Speaker 1: what was going on when they let it out there
Speaker 1: that Kyler Murray was happening, and now that the public
Speaker 1: wasn't that crazy for it. I don't put anything into
Speaker 1: that though. That's putting too much stock into these reports
Speaker 1: that I don't believe, like jumping to the conclusion that
Speaker 1: there's somehow a mess in Arizona seems crazy. I suspect
Speaker 1: they're all totally on the same page. And the fact
Speaker 1: that there's all these different reports out there just means
Speaker 1: no one knows what the hell is going to happen.
Speaker 1: But how does the idea, how do you like scientifically
Speaker 1: gauge the reaction of the public? Right? Right? That's another
Speaker 1: why why would you in theory if your ownership and
Speaker 1: you're really worried about this franchise is sinking, Like, Hey,
Speaker 1: is this the guy that's gonna create so much excitement,
Speaker 1: uh that it starts selling our season tickets, which we're
Speaker 1: struggling with. But I don't buy any of that nonsense. Uh,
Speaker 1: let's move on. There is a name floating around, a
Speaker 1: prominent defensive player for the Seahawks. It's floating around as
Speaker 1: we approached the draft, franchise tag defensive end Frank Clark.
Speaker 1: Rap Sheet reported Monday on Good Morning Football that the
Speaker 1: Seahawks have been talking to several teams about Clark, including
Speaker 1: the Colts, that she and the Jets. So Clark trade
Speaker 1: mark is something I could really shake up the draft board. Uh,
Speaker 1: this is a prominent guy. Um just twenty five years old,
Speaker 1: can get to the quarterback coming off a thirteen sacks season,
Speaker 1: So you would think he would have value if the
Speaker 1: Seahawks were motivated to move it. I mean, I'd only
Speaker 1: wonder why the Seahawks would want to move a pass
Speaker 1: rusher at the absolute prime age of his career Um.
Speaker 1: But there's other money concerns. I mean, for me, I
Speaker 1: think if this happens, this has to happen sooner than later,
Speaker 1: and not probably when they're on the clock, so that you,
Speaker 1: if you're Seattle, really know where you are heading into
Speaker 1: the draft. That would be my guests, happen sooner than later,
Speaker 1: I'm wondering. And you can pay multiple stars on a
Speaker 1: roster with the salary cap the way it is in
Speaker 1: the NFL. But the Seattle Seahawks just gave Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: the biggest contract in NFL history. What it does do West,
Speaker 1: it does shift a little bit your franchise model how
Speaker 1: you want to spend the rest of your salary cap,
Speaker 1: so you do Probably it makes you think we like
Speaker 1: Frank Clark a lot. We might really like Frank Clark,
Speaker 1: but do we want to give him a ninety millions
Speaker 1: Trey ninety million dollar tree Flowers type contract. It's worth
Speaker 1: thinking about as an organization. I think that's the issue here.
Speaker 1: This guy is not DeMarcus Lawrence. He's not that good.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a good pass rusher, he's not as
Speaker 1: well rounded as some of the best pass or who
Speaker 1: doesn't play the run as well. A lot of his
Speaker 1: sacks come against say the Raiders terrible tackles last year.
Speaker 1: Um So to me, it doesn't surprise me that the
Speaker 1: Seahawks would have reservations about paying him if he does
Speaker 1: want that. DeMarcus Lawrence come he came into the league
Speaker 1: with a domestic violence charge, so that I think has
Speaker 1: to be a factor in all of this in terms
Speaker 1: of giving a guy long term money. And then that's
Speaker 1: the part where I would be a little worried if
Speaker 1: I'm the Jets who have been thrown out there as
Speaker 1: one of the teams or the Chiefs. It depends on
Speaker 1: the price, certainly, but the fact that the Seahawks are
Speaker 1: so willing to give him up there is a level
Speaker 1: of which he would be such a good player that
Speaker 1: they would want to keep him, and he's just not
Speaker 1: at that level that he's a good pass rusher, and
Speaker 1: maybe they see the Bobby Wagner contract coming up and
Speaker 1: they have they want to give it to him. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's only making you know, X amount more than
Speaker 1: he was on the last contract, which was pretty good.
Speaker 1: So they're they're saying, and it makes sense, we'd rather
Speaker 1: have a first round pick than have to pay Frank
Speaker 1: Clark seventeen million this year on a on a tag
Speaker 1: when we're probably not going to give him ninety next year.
Speaker 1: It all makes sense, but it would I'd be a
Speaker 1: little worried about giving him this sort of money when
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, who are defensive experts, are not. Mike mccagnan
Speaker 1: of the Jets. I don't know the history of the
Speaker 1: Frank Clark domestic violence incident, but mccagnant has been on
Speaker 1: the record multiple times saying he doesn't like to go
Speaker 1: near people with that type of history. Um, it was
Speaker 1: I was from college, and and Ian even pointed out
Speaker 1: on the air today, Look, not our first round picks
Speaker 1: are the same. If a team like the Jets, let's
Speaker 1: say we're actually interested, it'd probably be more like a
Speaker 1: trade down. Maybe they get the Seahawks first round pick
Speaker 1: or something like that, whereas if it's a team at
Speaker 1: the back of the first round. The way Ian was talking,
Speaker 1: he really seemed to think that this that they're going
Speaker 1: to get a first round pick for Clark. Interesting. All right,
Speaker 1: let's um move on to a signing ahead of the
Speaker 1: draft of Buffalo Bills add someone to their backfield, an
Speaker 1: increasingly crowded backfield. T J yelled In, a member of
Speaker 1: the San Diego Graybeards before this, signed a two year
Speaker 1: contract on Monday. He joins the Buffalo backfield that includes
Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy, of course, and another thirties something back your boy, Greg,
Speaker 1: Frank Gore, you're worried about the inconvenient truth with the
Speaker 1: arrival of Yeldon, Yes, because Gore is great on third
Speaker 1: downs and Yeldon has been pretty productive and as much younger.
Speaker 1: Maybe there's a chance of Sean McCoy doesn't make the team.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but that seems I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't I don't know. They said he was on the team,
Speaker 1: and then then I guess Gore and yelled in, might
Speaker 1: be battling for one one spot and t J. Yelden
Speaker 1: has got about yards over the last four years. He
Speaker 1: has the same amount of yards as Tevin uh Coleman
Speaker 1: since he entered the league, which I'm not saying he's
Speaker 1: the same player, but he's been pretty productive. He's okay,
Speaker 1: he's a good receiving back. Yeah, and this is bad news.
Speaker 1: Sorry to our British listeners for your rugby guy, Christian Wade.
Speaker 1: Well Wayne, I think most people on the roster were
Speaker 1: bad news. I think Wade is open to show enough
Speaker 1: to make a practice squad at this At this stage,
Speaker 1: you can save six point four million by moving on
Speaker 1: from Lashawn McCoy, which the Leshawn McCoy experience I thought
Speaker 1: would have gotten rid of him a year ago, but
Speaker 1: they've they've very loyally stuck to him. But it's not
Speaker 1: like he's getting any younger. Let's move on. Jalen Ramsey
Speaker 1: was not at the Jaguars voluntary workouts. Tom Coughlin provided
Speaker 1: some thoughts on his belief about whether players should be
Speaker 1: at these workouts or not. UH. The nfl p A
Speaker 1: released a statement hours after Coffin's comments UH to provide
Speaker 1: clarity on the definition of voluntary. Then Ramsey's agent digs
Speaker 1: in UH saying Ramsey is exactly where Jalen should be
Speaker 1: during this offseason, He's spending time with his young daughter
Speaker 1: and family and training in his hometown of Nashville. The
Speaker 1: Jacks are fully aware what's going on with him, and
Speaker 1: then Jalen himself tweets quote fully aware and quote voluntary,
Speaker 1: meaning I don't have to be there, but they know
Speaker 1: the exact reasons I am not. My teammates know it's
Speaker 1: all of and no, I'll be ready when it's time
Speaker 1: one hundred emoji West. Does that change anything about your
Speaker 1: feeling about Jillian Ramsey not being around to Jacksonville? Okay,
Speaker 1: so I'm a little torn on this because I did
Speaker 1: read where he works out hard with his father away
Speaker 1: from the team and nobody's really worried about him being
Speaker 1: in shape or not. But I do think on this
Speaker 1: particular team where there is a void of leadership, and
Speaker 1: it was an issue all year last year that your
Speaker 1: best player should probably be your leader and showing an
Speaker 1: example and and he should be there. Um, I would
Speaker 1: ask you, Dan, I saw another rumor, would you trade
Speaker 1: the number three pick in the draft for Jalen Ramsey? Oh?
Speaker 1: Who will need a new contract? How old is he? Oh?
Speaker 1: He's young guy? Right, you the number three overall picked
Speaker 1: for Jalen Ramsey would fill a huge hole on the Jets. Also,
Speaker 1: how good was he last year? How good is he?
Speaker 1: He was like just below Pro Bowl level last year,
Speaker 1: but the year before legitimately first team All Pro. I
Speaker 1: think you do it for when you factor in the
Speaker 1: ceiling and the age, and how the immediate boost that
Speaker 1: would give a team in New York that actually wants
Speaker 1: to compete for a playoffs at I would do it
Speaker 1: because you would draft him third if you knew he
Speaker 1: was this good, he would be a top three player.
Speaker 1: And so you missed those first two years, but you
Speaker 1: still got the rookie you know, you got the rookie contract.
Speaker 1: I love I like that safety. Yeah, when you strip
Speaker 1: away like the mysticism of these first round picks. And
Speaker 1: if someone told you you're gonna have Jalen Ramsey, the
Speaker 1: talent level of Jalen Ramsey on your team, you know
Speaker 1: from here for the next three or four years, five
Speaker 1: years of course, verse taking a risk on on a
Speaker 1: name from a college. This guy might be the most
Speaker 1: talented defensive back in the NFL and you pair him
Speaker 1: with Jamal Adams. Now we're cooking with fun. Wait, so
Speaker 1: this is like a real thing that I saw it.
Speaker 1: I saw it written in passing by Peter kang er
Speaker 1: Breer or one of those guys UM. Finally in the
Speaker 1: news Um. John Lennon, the late Beatles founder UM, had
Speaker 1: a piano that he wrote parts of Sergeant Pepper's Lonely
Speaker 1: Hearts Club Band the Iconic Um album, including the song
Speaker 1: A Day in the Life, which is probably my favorite
Speaker 1: Beatles song. We Gonna say a lot of choices where
Speaker 1: there are a few choices. That's one of my favorite
Speaker 1: artists of all time. That was my mom's favorite. What
Speaker 1: what a saga? That song is both Taul and John
Speaker 1: killing it Day in the Life. Check it out young
Speaker 1: listeners and Erica. Anyway, an upright piano that John Lennon
Speaker 1: used to write Beatles songs has been sold at auction
Speaker 1: to Jim er Say, whoa, the owner of the Cults
Speaker 1: ERSA tweeted Saturday he is quote elated to now own
Speaker 1: the instrument Lennon used to compose songs for that album
Speaker 1: by the Beatles, released over fifty years ago. Paid how
Speaker 1: much for the piano ahead? Very good? Seven dollars and
Speaker 1: you knew that right? I read it anyway. The piano
Speaker 1: um is now is I'm just curious if you guys
Speaker 1: had Jim Er say money, which is absurd money. I'd
Speaker 1: love to hear your answer on this too, Ricky, if
Speaker 1: you got one, what what is one thing you would buy?
Speaker 1: I think I would buy something that he already bought,
Speaker 1: which is the Jack Carroll wac ongoing typewritten scroll that
Speaker 1: became on the road. He just did on one long
Speaker 1: ass piece of paper that rolled into a gigantic thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's buying interesting stuff. I'll give him that.
Speaker 1: I don't really want somebody's old stuff, like collecting dust
Speaker 1: in my house. But I would pay the rights to
Speaker 1: have Northern Exposure released on streaming. The television show Northern Exposure.
Speaker 1: Get that released on streaming. It's the greatest TV. I mean,
Speaker 1: you could like just hire them play out the entire
Speaker 1: series for you in your house. You have so much money. Well, hey,
Speaker 1: that because music rights cost a lot of This is
Speaker 1: what's preventing the show because they were the first show
Speaker 1: to have like great soundtracks on every episode. I've thought
Speaker 1: about this too, like if if you became if any
Speaker 1: one of us became incredibly wealthy, would you start just
Speaker 1: collecting things, because that's what wealthy people do. I know
Speaker 1: someone who sort of came into money and now it's
Speaker 1: like he's super into furniture, and it's like, I don't
Speaker 1: think no matter how much money I would get that
Speaker 1: I would ever get into interior design. It just it
Speaker 1: wouldn't happen. I would spend my money on just like property,
Speaker 1: like wherever Obama was staying in Hawaii, Like I want
Speaker 1: that house that's I can't imagine like getting into getting
Speaker 1: into this you know, drink its, but but house in
Speaker 1: a location that I could get you. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I would never at this point shift into a thing
Speaker 1: where I'm suddenly collecting insane knick knacks and I wanted
Speaker 1: less crowded home with less nonsense with you. What about
Speaker 1: original artwork? I don't know. That's the other thing. He's
Speaker 1: kind of gotten intoire and it's like I don't think
Speaker 1: so because it's not in me. It just would be
Speaker 1: pretending it could be in you, and it just hasn't
Speaker 1: been allowed to blossom. You know, my parents tried pretty hard.
Speaker 1: They're all into art. Um. I have heard whispers out
Speaker 1: there um that James Dolan, the owner of the Knicks
Speaker 1: is looking to potentially sell that team. You would salvage
Speaker 1: the Knicks. I would save the Knicks. I think how
Speaker 1: fun it would be. That's a lot more than seven
Speaker 1: celebrated the streets of New York, but they put a
Speaker 1: cap on how much. It's just like if you were
Speaker 1: there'd be a Nick Foles like statue of you outside. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get to sit outside. In the United States, would
Speaker 1: be like their boy GM or their middle I would
Speaker 1: be CDM or would you inexperienced person takes GM role?
Speaker 1: I should say you're not the GM. No, I would
Speaker 1: not be the GM, but I would be involved. I
Speaker 1: would I would have to leave the nfl UM to
Speaker 1: dive in and get caught up on the n b
Speaker 1: A in a way I haven't been ever and uh.
Speaker 1: I would be involved with the process, and I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be doing things like hiring Phil Jackson. I would do
Speaker 1: things like higher analytics minded guys on the way up
Speaker 1: and have smart people around the organization and make the
Speaker 1: right moves things that haven't happened. You'd be like your
Speaker 1: city in twenty five years, almost be like the Pelicans.
Speaker 1: You'd have instead of Mickey Loomis you'd have Dave Gettleman
Speaker 1: running your neck. You'd be like one of those honors,
Speaker 1: like seven or eight years in You're just like, you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't know what I didn't know at the beginning.
Speaker 1: I was a little a little too involved, but I've
Speaker 1: learned a lot. Also, do you know what a hero
Speaker 1: you would be if you got James Dolan out? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You want to be the guy after James. That's what's
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Speaker 1: It is time Go get my Lunch two thousand, nineteen
Speaker 1: NFL Draft addition. What is go get my lunch? It
Speaker 1: is a game. We go around the horn two times,
Speaker 1: maybe three. Well, have some fun, see what we're doing
Speaker 1: on a time, and make predictions about the draft both
Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday and Saturday, so it could be from
Speaker 1: anywhere in the draft. I do want to just a
Speaker 1: heads up and hopefully it doesn't affect anyone, but it
Speaker 1: would be good for these things to be able to
Speaker 1: be paid off by the time we're doing our Saturday show.
Speaker 1: The stuff that's lingering, you know for whatever reason. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, here we go. So we'll go around the
Speaker 1: horn and then you could take each other up on
Speaker 1: the on their sandwich props, say I, I don't believe it.
Speaker 1: Let's put a sandwich on the line, or he said,
Speaker 1: I agree with you, no sandwich on the line. And
Speaker 1: it's a very very great tradition of the show. And
Speaker 1: I am excited for today's adventure. How about you. I'm thrilled.
Speaker 1: I'm excited about Greg's beard. To look at this thing,
Speaker 1: it's an interesting time for the beer because it's spring
Speaker 1: heading towards the warmer weather and now you're growing in
Speaker 1: the big wooly man beard, which is quite striking. Well,
Speaker 1: this is the time of year where you know, maybe
Speaker 1: not on Yeah, I was kind of mostly off last week.
Speaker 1: We're not on the air as much are when we are,
Speaker 1: it's you know, we're kind of far away. It's it's
Speaker 1: fine classic you want a beard move though, to say like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's because that is that that is That's how it started.
Speaker 1: Also looking in the mirror and he's like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is coming, but I don't I don't trust to continue
Speaker 1: on because he's done this before and then suddenly clean
Speaker 1: shaven out of nowhere. It's like, it's get too close
Speaker 1: today to ride more than more than normal. We're gonna
Speaker 1: see where it takes us. But I like the way
Speaker 1: you brought it up. It's kind of counter what what
Speaker 1: people are expecting. People lose the beards that then mine
Speaker 1: will stand out more. You're zagging, everyone else is zigging.
Speaker 1: Very nice. What do you think, Ricky? I like it?
Speaker 1: Do you think it works? She told me it looks sexy.
Speaker 1: The other week, she asked if you were trying to
Speaker 1: beer by beer this week, it does look like you're
Speaker 1: trying to like fill fill in a fake. Alright, let's
Speaker 1: let's get into it, um Mark, Why don't you get
Speaker 1: us going with the first prop? Let's have some fun.
Speaker 1: Oh and the that's the one we do should be
Speaker 1: Let me wait, let me refrain this. The last one's
Speaker 1: got to be an onion hanger, so we wanted, and
Speaker 1: that means one where you're kind of really putting it
Speaker 1: out there and the chances that you get it right
Speaker 1: not great, but you're you're brave. And before we throw
Speaker 1: it to Mark, let's do we always like to do
Speaker 1: one where it's kind of a universal type prop. So
Speaker 1: let's start this way. What team will Josh Rosen beyond
Speaker 1: by Sunday morning By Sunday morning. What team will Josh
Speaker 1: Rosen beyond? Let's go around the horn, Mark Sessler. I
Speaker 1: do believe he will wind up on another team, but
Speaker 1: I am going to go with the Arizona Cardinals by then.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna get a deal done. Interesting
Speaker 1: Why why not? Any reason? In particular? I think they
Speaker 1: probably value there. There just seems to be split factions
Speaker 1: inside the building. I think some people value Josh Rosen
Speaker 1: a lot. I could be completely wrong in this. I
Speaker 1: I've got these group bets wrong like five years in
Speaker 1: a row. So take none of it as fact. I
Speaker 1: just think he's gonna stick in Arizona until unless they
Speaker 1: get something they really like. It was somewhere else week one.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I think they'll still He's still movable,
Speaker 1: but I don't think it will happen by Sundays. That's
Speaker 1: a good answer. That's what I don't want to take.
Speaker 1: Mark's answer. You know you can, you can, multiple people
Speaker 1: can take. I was thinking Arizona. I might switch it
Speaker 1: now just I thought about it as well. But because
Speaker 1: he's on the Cardinals right now, that's a pretty big
Speaker 1: advantage in this company. Feel free to take it join me.
Speaker 1: I will not all right, I'm gonna go with Thelma
Speaker 1: and Louise with Mark. We're going over the car. This
Speaker 1: is gonna be in contrast to what Mike Garret Fold
Speaker 1: told us on the Twitter Show, because there were the
Speaker 1: reports about the Redskins being interested and then Mike kind
Speaker 1: of shot it down. It's like it's not really serious. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this smoke leads to fire and uh,
Speaker 1: the Redskins get him at a really good value fourth
Speaker 1: round pick maybe something like that, and they bring him
Speaker 1: into the room because, let's face a cult McCoy uh
Speaker 1: an injury at all times waiting to happen, and he's
Speaker 1: still he just had another surgery to correct that leg
Speaker 1: injury suffered on Thanksgiving case. Keenum is the only other
Speaker 1: option in the building with Alex Smith out indefinitely, so
Speaker 1: they're gonna add another body in that room and it
Speaker 1: will be Josh Rosen with some upside. Its boring to
Speaker 1: take the Cardinals, which is what I was thinking, Do
Speaker 1: you take him and I'll take someone else. I got
Speaker 1: a conscious thing going on, Well you take the Cardinals
Speaker 1: to he just switching off, So I'm switching I'm going
Speaker 1: to the fish tank. Oh, we're hopping out of fish tank.
Speaker 1: It all pays off. That makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: Greg is now Filma Marcus Louise and I am in
Speaker 1: bed with the dolphins. They're going off a cliff. You're
Speaker 1: jumping in a pool. Who is you're hanging out with?
Speaker 1: Like twenty year old Brad Pitt, You're doing more than
Speaker 1: hanging out. Revisit that film them in Louise saying, you're
Speaker 1: claiming that you're cleaning up. We're off the cliff. Brad's
Speaker 1: like where those where those ladies go? I mean, Brad's
Speaker 1: leaving with your bill fold out the hotel room. But
Speaker 1: he's also I never actually watched that. I just know
Speaker 1: that it has a famous scene at the end. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's quite a movie. I haven't seen it many years. Mark,
Speaker 1: let us go now, let's go around the horn, all right.
Speaker 1: I always struggle with this, go get my come up
Speaker 1: with these ridiculous ones, and I lose left and right,
Speaker 1: but I always this one. I believe in that the
Speaker 1: Giants will not take a quarterback at number six. Giants
Speaker 1: will not take a quarterback at number six. Interesting they
Speaker 1: have two first round picks six and so the first pick.
Speaker 1: What if they move up or move down or anything,
Speaker 1: so it's got to be the number six picks. I
Speaker 1: would think that would nullify. Yeah, you're saying they're not
Speaker 1: taking a quarterback in the six spots specifically, then yeah,
Speaker 1: that narrows it. What if they take a quarterback in
Speaker 1: the fourth spot, the third spot, I think it would
Speaker 1: rule this would would would I'm saying they're not taking
Speaker 1: it at six. If the Bucks moved into number six,
Speaker 1: then the Giants are not taking a quarterback. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: not take that, and I'm just gonna throw it. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take that. Maybe I'll go next because mine
Speaker 1: kind of jumps on top of that. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: take it. Mhm, I won't take it either. Mine was
Speaker 1: just that they're taking that they're taking a quarterback in
Speaker 1: the first round. Yeah, and so I don't want to
Speaker 1: have to put it on a number, but that they
Speaker 1: come out of there not with Josh Rosen, but that
Speaker 1: they select a college eligible prospect in the first round. Well,
Speaker 1: I will not take that. I think they're going to
Speaker 1: mm hmm, they will take a quarterback in the first round.
Speaker 1: That was that was my thought as well. You're saying
Speaker 1: they will, Greg, they will. Yes. Mark agrees with you, yes,
Speaker 1: because I'm not. His point was he was trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, trick us in to take a number six
Speaker 1: or something. No, I just got to overly specific. Yours
Speaker 1: was more general. So we all agree that giants will
Speaker 1: take a quarterback in the first Well West hasn't spoken
Speaker 1: on this one. On mine, I agree with Greg. Oh No,
Speaker 1: just like Hey, by the way, sandwiches don't need to
Speaker 1: be taken for entertainment value. It's really the friendships that
Speaker 1: we have that people listed. Will said, that's Willson. Hey,
Speaker 1: and I did bring in some barretos last time. After
Speaker 1: by the way, you said we haven't done any sandwiches.
Speaker 1: I brought some in last time. That's all right, let
Speaker 1: me let me shake it up. I'm gonna stick with
Speaker 1: the giants because you guys yellow bellies, the giants will
Speaker 1: take a quarterback first pick. I'm always filed. This is
Speaker 1: three questions similar. That's where yellow bellies. And then you
Speaker 1: asked the same exact question as a yellow belly. You're yellow. No,
Speaker 1: you are also in the clay. You can't do it now,
Speaker 1: I boxed you up. I can't do it. At all.
Speaker 1: That's what I say. All right, I'll throw another one
Speaker 1: out there. Then how about this, Let's just move away
Speaker 1: from that entire conversation. What a nightmare. More quarterbacks will
Speaker 1: be taken in round one than wide receivers and running
Speaker 1: backs combined. Let's play. Come on, let's play this game
Speaker 1: for real, Let's fly. I mean, I'm working on my
Speaker 1: mock draft for Wednesday, and you know, doing your research,
Speaker 1: the most people don't feel that more than one running
Speaker 1: back would possibly go and in the in round one,
Speaker 1: and the consensus seems to be about two wide receivers.
Speaker 1: So you're saying it would need to be four quarters.
Speaker 1: If three of those are taking, you're saying it will
Speaker 1: be four quarters. Have to be more quarterbacks, not so.
Speaker 1: If it's three and three, I lose. I will take
Speaker 1: you just for the sake of maybe another wide out
Speaker 1: slipping in there. You lose the pushmak yea. Let me
Speaker 1: sit me too. Yeah, I think I'll say you hang
Speaker 1: onions right off the bat. I think that was I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know what I feel. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take it just because taking it the way to go.
Speaker 1: That is not onions the way. Now, that was a
Speaker 1: nice but you got what you want and I feel good.
Speaker 1: Got a little a little drafty, but it feels good.
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, Daniel Jones, Dayne Haskins, Drew Lock, all guys
Speaker 1: rumored speculated to go in the first round. You got
Speaker 1: Alabama running back Josh Jacobs, A lot of people say
Speaker 1: we'll go in the first round. Penn State running back
Speaker 1: Miles Sanders, he's in the mix. And then wide receivers.
Speaker 1: Who's the guy that Steve Wisch Steve Wich liked on
Speaker 1: the Twitter Show last week? Mary Brown, I mean DK Metcalfe,
Speaker 1: A J. Brown, Miles Sanders. I think what we're hoping
Speaker 1: for the push is a push or for Drew Lock
Speaker 1: to maybe slip out of the first rounder. Daniel Jones
Speaker 1: one of those guys. But I don't know if I
Speaker 1: buy that. I never buy that. All right, So there's
Speaker 1: a nice reminder of how the game's actually played. You
Speaker 1: had the exact same as you, correct essentially had the
Speaker 1: same one as me. You know what, we're not buying it.
Speaker 1: Everyone listening knows what's happening here. Go West, everyone knows
Speaker 1: what's happening here. You're throwing that number six. Joe you're
Speaker 1: throwing that number six botch the whole thing. And now
Speaker 1: it's why I think that's actually a specific A lot
Speaker 1: of people have the Giants just taking a quarterback at
Speaker 1: number six. I'm saying they'll go against the grain, and
Speaker 1: not that I mean what it's in the past. I
Speaker 1: mean the odd critique. By fair Well, you're you're picking
Speaker 1: something that's like favored to happen. If you went to
Speaker 1: Vegas right now, the odds would be they do not
Speaker 1: take a quarterback specifically number six, because there's just too
Speaker 1: many variables. You can move up, down, whatever. But I
Speaker 1: don't think it was a crazy one. All right, Let's
Speaker 1: stay with quarterbacks, all right. I like it. Quarterbacks. It's
Speaker 1: the only thing I know anything about. Either the Bengals
Speaker 1: or the Lions draft a quarterback in the first two rounds.
Speaker 1: I like that Bengals or Lions draft a quarterback in
Speaker 1: the first tak you, but I love I love the
Speaker 1: way you're thinking, and I think you'll deserve not just
Speaker 1: like a sandwich, but like bag of chips. With that,
Speaker 1: I'll take it, And because I did like it, I'll
Speaker 1: give you one of your little dull juice bottles you like,
Speaker 1: do you even like chips. You can choose something else,
Speaker 1: but you know something like that, those um, what are
Speaker 1: those voodoo chips from New Orleans? Okay, yeah, a little
Speaker 1: what is it at z No? Come on, that's your reagion.
Speaker 1: Those are your people, I know, and I spent like
Speaker 1: the voodoo chips are glorious. Anything named Voodoo's gotta be
Speaker 1: all of zapps. What I said, the Cajun crostaters, that's
Speaker 1: what I That's what I U. That sounds like a
Speaker 1: great sports freshman years you said maybe you said Za's
Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, that's right. What did you did you tell?
Speaker 1: I am not going to take it because I remain
Speaker 1: convinced the Bengals not just in the second round, but
Speaker 1: we'll take a quarterback in the first round, New coach,
Speaker 1: enough for the Sandy Dalton business. You gotta get someone
Speaker 1: in there to compete against them. Otherwise, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: All right? Greg, I got a few options here, strategy now,
Speaker 1: part of the onion hanger in there. I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: the Raiders take a quarterback in the first round. All right.
Speaker 1: We'll take you up on that one that the Raiders
Speaker 1: saw this little honkin. You know, another option you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's Dwayne Haskins, but that's the
Speaker 1: one that that would be the most fun. I think.
Speaker 1: So my biggest issues that everyone lies all the time,
Speaker 1: and the fact that the Raiders have been so strong
Speaker 1: on Derek Carr makes me think they're lying through their teeth.
Speaker 1: And Derek Carr had that tweet when it was it
Speaker 1: Haskins or Murray. Murray came in for the workout the
Speaker 1: Raiders where he did the side I emoji, which maybe
Speaker 1: Dark Car was given a little window into his soul
Speaker 1: that he's like, wait a second, of these guys gonna
Speaker 1: bang me in a big spot and the biggest of
Speaker 1: all spots and ship me somewhere. So you say they're
Speaker 1: gonna do it, I say they're gonna take a quarterback
Speaker 1: in the first round. I'm gonna go against my instincts.
Speaker 1: Even though I don't trust anyone. I'm gonna say you're wrong.
Speaker 1: They will stand by Derek Carr and roll with him.
Speaker 1: So Dan, I'm gonna go with you because I I
Speaker 1: think that, like if you were going to build the
Speaker 1: taking all three, you're taking me up on it. Yes, okay, good.
Speaker 1: I think they might end up with two first round
Speaker 1: picks instead of three. Um, if they make some move,
Speaker 1: some wheels and deals. But Derek Carr, I mean, unless
Speaker 1: you find a trade partner, that's twenty seven million in
Speaker 1: dead money, keeping them around is highly awkward. I don't
Speaker 1: know who you're going to convince the trade for Derek
Speaker 1: Carr on any level. Uh that I think that would
Speaker 1: have to happen, And I think that's too complex. At
Speaker 1: this point, we've heard literally nothing about It. Doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that part of this getting rid of your scouts was
Speaker 1: because there's some sort of mega deal going down. But
Speaker 1: I'll take you all right now we're cooking Mark. That's fine.
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be in order. It's fine. That's good.
Speaker 1: That's nice onion hair, kind of onion hair. I think
Speaker 1: that the Cleveland Browns are not done attempting to at
Speaker 1: every step along the way, look at hey, look at
Speaker 1: wow is us? We continue to make moves and add
Speaker 1: players left and right. We can't control ourselves with the
Speaker 1: little used wow is was me? Well, not a woe
Speaker 1: is me? A wow? You sound a little exasperated. You.
Speaker 1: I just I didn't say it would be it would
Speaker 1: be no longer a Browns fanis that it would be
Speaker 1: fine in the first round just to chill out for
Speaker 1: once you already essentially used pick on Odell Beckham. I
Speaker 1: think that to me was a win. Um. But I
Speaker 1: think that they're going to get antsy in in what
Speaker 1: you could define it as a good or bad way
Speaker 1: and move back into the first round to get a
Speaker 1: player that they deemed to fill one of their holes.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it will be that's this is
Speaker 1: not part of the bet, but I could see it
Speaker 1: being one of those offensive tax down use the B
Speaker 1: word here at the NFL. We'll see, but that's the
Speaker 1: thing they're going to move back into the first round rainmaker.
Speaker 1: Uh I knew where that line was. Dorsey it was
Speaker 1: and continues to be a cowboy. I think he loves
Speaker 1: people talking about John Dorsey and that would be something
Speaker 1: I'd be like this, John Dorsey doesn't know when to quit.
Speaker 1: This guy's going for the big ring and all that.
Speaker 1: So I kind of could see it. I like that
Speaker 1: one if I could totally see them doing that. Half
Speaker 1: of the goal here is simply Dan with my so
Speaker 1: I feel like I don't care what anyone else does.
Speaker 1: He reeled me and I'm taking it so you think
Speaker 1: they will trade back into the first round, and I
Speaker 1: like your thinking you know the team, well, you're you're
Speaker 1: plugged into some of these beat writers that you're always checking.
Speaker 1: He always like to act surprise afterwards with one of
Speaker 1: his little predictions. I will be even though he's been
Speaker 1: working have been the Brown Web, the Brown's dark Web,
Speaker 1: which by the way, it's had a great offseason. The
Speaker 1: Brown dark Web basically broke that Odell Beckham chain before
Speaker 1: any Mark is kind of part of the dark web
Speaker 1: of the Brown. So I'm assuming this isn't just coming
Speaker 1: out of like your brain necessarily. Rather it's an informed situation.
Speaker 1: So I am not going to take you on it
Speaker 1: because that's what's gonna happen. I could tell you that,
Speaker 1: I promise you. I came up with this about twenty
Speaker 1: minutes ago. At my desk. There is no dark web activity,
Speaker 1: but that's fun. Check him out at Ernest Biner handle
Speaker 1: on some weird board that imaginating the John Dorsey think
Speaker 1: like he likes to be a big cat. For some reason,
Speaker 1: I had the image of of um of Job from
Speaker 1: Arrest of Development, where he like just takes off his pants.
Speaker 1: Except John Dorsey, he takes off his khakis and just
Speaker 1: there's another pair of khakis underneath. That would be fun.
Speaker 1: He definitely has multiple layers of that same exact outfit. Um,
Speaker 1: that was good. Did you did you do it too?
Speaker 1: I'm taking Marco. I'm taking him to if I wasn't so,
Speaker 1: I'm not you and I are taking a whole interesting
Speaker 1: fun Okay, we got and again check all this out
Speaker 1: on go get my lunch. Dot org. Please someone help
Speaker 1: me out with this one. I believe that's correct. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's dot org. It's an organization, so that makes sense. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Nick Fortier has done an amazing job for years helping
Speaker 1: us out with this. Uh. It will have all of
Speaker 1: not only the all time standings, um and a breakdown
Speaker 1: of every round we've ever done in the past five
Speaker 1: years or so, including this one. He's very good about
Speaker 1: updating him as well. Nick. If you're listening, shout out
Speaker 1: you are the man? What have you? Suddenly, without telling us,
Speaker 1: decided over it. Don't care what we're doing. This handy
Speaker 1: wand by this rative side job and by the way,
Speaker 1: has moved into first. Maybe that's been for a little bit,
Speaker 1: but Dan's in first right now. Been there at fifty
Speaker 1: three point seven percent. I'm pretty close there at fifty
Speaker 1: two points, and it really shows how even it all is.
Speaker 1: And West is right at fifty uh and Mark is
Speaker 1: really making up that ground underneath. But you had a
Speaker 1: sound bad but he's twenty under so that's a long
Speaker 1: way to well. I had a great regular season round though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you just gotta like, I don't like the no onion
Speaker 1: accusation when if you were to go through some of mine,
Speaker 1: they are like, you're you're kind of saying stuff we
Speaker 1: need to happen for absolutely. Sometimes your onions like dipped
Speaker 1: in like acid or you know, like mescal in or something.
Speaker 1: You're like the slugger in baseball who hits like to
Speaker 1: ten but has thirty eight homers, And you know, it's
Speaker 1: like it's like you're a You're what they call in
Speaker 1: baseball a true three outcome player home run, walk, strike out,
Speaker 1: and in the locker room problem, right, you may be
Speaker 1: in last, but like, what prop have I ever made
Speaker 1: that anyone remembers You've got that Mayfield? One's got those bombs.
Speaker 1: You only have to do one and then it's less.
Speaker 1: You can point to that. The restaurant an absolute train wreck.
Speaker 1: All right, Wes Dan's New York Jets make a trade
Speaker 1: before Saturday, Before Saturday, Before Saturday, I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: care about one of these little week change fifth round
Speaker 1: for like a sixth, but a second round trade would
Speaker 1: be enough for you. Yes, before Saturday. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to take that. I I don't think. Uh. I just
Speaker 1: feel like almost any team, what's the chances they make
Speaker 1: some sort of trade. I don't know. I guess in
Speaker 1: the first three rounds. I guess it's like a one
Speaker 1: in four, one in six chance. But you're right, I
Speaker 1: think the Jets are just primed to be moving around.
Speaker 1: Here's why I won't take you on it. We just
Speaker 1: have a lot of evidence that they are motivated. First,
Speaker 1: the reports out that they really want to it out
Speaker 1: of the three spot, um and move back and collect
Speaker 1: draft picks. Part of the fallout of the Donald trade,
Speaker 1: which was an excellent trade. Uh. But they lost a
Speaker 1: second round pick last year and this year they also
Speaker 1: gave up a draft pick to get Colletche so oh smile, um.
Speaker 1: So I believe the only a five picks in this draft,
Speaker 1: and it's a team with holes. I think they will
Speaker 1: try to move back and also what we're hearing is
Speaker 1: that the Jets at number three aren't really sure what
Speaker 1: they want. Ed Oliver, let me throw this one out
Speaker 1: and get better bait. Why this is stinky bit? You
Speaker 1: guys aren't even if it said with the three pick,
Speaker 1: then I probably would have changed it to the three pick.
Speaker 1: There's not enough action on the now and now I
Speaker 1: have to back up those words. Now I still don't
Speaker 1: know so that you think they will move out of
Speaker 1: the three and now I just want more action. You
Speaker 1: West is suddenly into it. The Reds came through for
Speaker 1: him over the weekend, That's all I'll say. There and
Speaker 1: Zack Duke and he's feeling lucky. Yeah, Jets, that's a
Speaker 1: good one. I'll take you because I don't know how
Speaker 1: are you what? The one thing is, if there were
Speaker 1: a lineup of quarterbacks that were like top six, top
Speaker 1: seven dudes, the jets number three spot would be prime
Speaker 1: territory to move into. I see who's moving up to
Speaker 1: that spot for what? At this point, I partly moved
Speaker 1: you into this bet by saying I would take it.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna do that because I think it's fifty
Speaker 1: fifty and I will do I do think at this
Speaker 1: point that that would be, that would be a good
Speaker 1: prediction by you that they they're moving out of three.
Speaker 1: I was properly chastened for throwing out a boring prop
Speaker 1: And now we're when now we're getting a little more
Speaker 1: interesting to take it. I think they want to move.
Speaker 1: Will they move? Will they have somebody that will be
Speaker 1: motivated to do it with him? You know what, I'll
Speaker 1: take you on it as well. Yes, Now, West West,
Speaker 1: what West did there was playing the game masterfully. He did.
Speaker 1: He did the public opinion test that the Cardinals are doing.
Speaker 1: Didn't work out. We weren't suckers. And now he kind
Speaker 1: of tricked us into taking its more just feeling guilty
Speaker 1: for being born by the way, if and that all
Speaker 1: gets thrown out. If if the Niners or whoever picks
Speaker 1: number two does not take Nick Bosa, our our jets
Speaker 1: aren't moving. The boss still there, but I hear everyone
Speaker 1: says he probably will not be there. But we'll have
Speaker 1: to say, we'll find out in seventy two hours or so.
Speaker 1: All Right, I'll throw one more out there. Speaking of
Speaker 1: the top five of the first round, one of the
Speaker 1: following teams will trade into the top five. The Giants,
Speaker 1: the Redskins, the Dolphins, the Broncos. One of those four
Speaker 1: teams will move up to get into the top five,
Speaker 1: presumably to take their next quarterback. I am taking you
Speaker 1: on that one. Giants, Redskins, Broncos, Dolphins. One of those
Speaker 1: four teams will move into the top five via trade,
Speaker 1: maybe with the New York Jets five, settling two prop
Speaker 1: bets in the process. M yeah, because one of mine,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Haskins, goes top six. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: do that, Jackson. But see, they got to get ahead
Speaker 1: of the Giant. It's Broncos, Giants, Redskins, Dolphins, Broncos. The
Speaker 1: Giants get to move up to a spot. Giants picking
Speaker 1: six right now, the Redskins picking fifteen, the Dolphins picking thirteen,
Speaker 1: and the Broncos picking at I'll take you why not
Speaker 1: just for I mean, why not just for gets and
Speaker 1: shackers number ten the Broncos. Okay, Mark takes me on it. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is a good one. It's got me really thinking,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take you on it, all right. I like
Speaker 1: it feeling. I feel like there's a dance here. The
Speaker 1: Giants decent chance. Giants stay there it's tough. Let's make
Speaker 1: a decision. Yes, I took it. Okay, last one were
Speaker 1: running out of time here, I'm gonna go. The Patriots
Speaker 1: do not take a tight end in the first two
Speaker 1: rounds of the draft. Every every mock has him tight
Speaker 1: end first round. They because what the Patriots like to
Speaker 1: do is undraft day is just stick their little middle
Speaker 1: finger up at everyone. Uh it's a little like kind
Speaker 1: of on the nose, do something specific. Want I want
Speaker 1: to know a fan or whoever, I want you know, whoever.
Speaker 1: They can move up whatever, and that's just what they
Speaker 1: like to do. I like it. I think they're in
Speaker 1: a bad position with where they're drafting because the too
Speaker 1: top of the three sound like you need to move
Speaker 1: up to get one of them, even even no a fan.
Speaker 1: And there are there are some mocks so that have
Speaker 1: three tight ends in the first round. There's a guy
Speaker 1: IRV Smith, so there's a few in the second round.
Speaker 1: It's a good class. But I don't think they're gonna
Speaker 1: get him late in the second either. So, um, who's
Speaker 1: on the roster right now, Austin Seferie and Jenkins and
Speaker 1: Matt Lacas. Okay, yes they're gonna do it, even it
Speaker 1: will pain Bell Chick to do. So we'll hate for
Speaker 1: people to be able to say we knew what Bill
Speaker 1: was going to do and he did it, because that's Bill.
Speaker 1: But I think it's such an important need for them,
Speaker 1: and Brady needs more weapons and he needs help right now.
Speaker 1: He's forty two years old. Week one, They're gonna go
Speaker 1: at a young tight end they believe can carry. Don't
Speaker 1: forget about exempt international player Jacob Johnson. Oh I didn't
Speaker 1: signs j K with a K. I don't know where
Speaker 1: he's from, but shout out I was from Germany. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Germans are coming. They're coming strong with some of
Speaker 1: these extra draft and we have to we have to
Speaker 1: check in with Maury Sporinger. By the way, I am
Speaker 1: not taking this one because Belichick's just crazy enough to
Speaker 1: think that Safarian Jenkins is the answer. I am taking
Speaker 1: whatever side is. They are taking a tight end. Okay,
Speaker 1: So Dan and Mark took me up on it. There
Speaker 1: you go. Don't get my lunch dot org. Nick Fortier
Speaker 1: is a good man. Hopefully he's listening to this and
Speaker 1: everything as well, because then he will have the updates
Speaker 1: and everything lined up for Thursday. Uh. Get excited. All right,
Speaker 1: that's it for today's show. A reminder, Big week on
Speaker 1: the Around the NFL podcast on Wednesday, the first annual
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler Mock Draft. Oh my god, everything's gonna change.
Speaker 1: Forget about all this garbage that's and floating around, um
Speaker 1: the football world. There's only one mock that matters. It's
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler's Wednesday A special just devoted to that. Also,
Speaker 1: maybe we'll get Spice Rack and Volved. He he postponed
Speaker 1: on us today, So I'm trying to decide whether whether
Speaker 1: or not Spicy is gonna make it in this year.
Speaker 1: We'd like it to have him, but we'll see. Uh,
Speaker 1: And then we'll have a Thursday night show and a
Speaker 1: Saturday night show covering the draft. So thanks to everybody
Speaker 1: for listening. And uh, big week on a Twitter show
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