Speaker 1: M What's griftin mcconman, I'm Robert Evans. This is Behind
Speaker 1: the Bastards, the show where every week we talked about
Speaker 1: the very worst people in all of history. And I
Speaker 1: also try out a new introduction. This one was not
Speaker 1: as inspired as the other ones, for which I apologize.
Speaker 1: I I just couldn't come up with another. What's boiling
Speaker 1: my pigannus is today? Which is ironic because I boiled
Speaker 1: some pigannuses this morning to eat for breakfast. Sharne, how
Speaker 1: are you doing today? That sounds so literally, I'm doing
Speaker 1: so good, so good. It is delicious. You know, they're
Speaker 1: basically calamari. They're so they're like kinda tangy and tender tender.
Speaker 1: Oh you don't eat meat, well, boiled pig gannuses are
Speaker 1: barely meat. I mean they're vegan. I'd say we've already
Speaker 1: just the last episode we were on, we mentioned but
Speaker 1: holes pretty late into the episode. But we're just right
Speaker 1: out the gate just talking about both holes again. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're right out the gate, which and you know, when
Speaker 1: you think about it, Scherine, right out the gate could
Speaker 1: even be a butthole reference. Yeah, when you poop what happens.
Speaker 1: It goes right out the gate. It goes right out
Speaker 1: the gate into what's it called the ivory, ivory throne,
Speaker 1: the ivory throne or the top the hood of a
Speaker 1: cop car wherever you prefer to go to the restroom.
Speaker 1: I don't judge, or at least poop on their cars.
Speaker 1: That seems a little bit less aggressive than fucking them, um,
Speaker 1: because you know, consent and stuff. Um. Anyway, my guest
Speaker 1: this week is Sharne Lonnie Units, co host of the
Speaker 1: ethnically ambiguous podcast Cage Fighter, and uh, facts a fact.
Speaker 1: You're a fact? Facts. I said fact like like, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm the co host and yes, it's facts are both facts. Yes, Uh,
Speaker 1: listeners will be interested to know that Sharine only does
Speaker 1: recording sessions with tape around her knuckles covered in broken
Speaker 1: glass in case she needs to get into a cage fight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's actually that was coffential information that I only shared with,
Speaker 1: uh my colleagues. So I'm glad you've shared that with
Speaker 1: the whole world. Now I guess my secrets out. I'm
Speaker 1: a badass. You do a lot of damage to the
Speaker 1: microphone stands. So we we've we've been having some issues
Speaker 1: as a result of all the glass on your wrists.
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm sorry. I already paid back the office.
Speaker 1: I gave them the money to to to repair the microbone.
Speaker 1: And it's not my problem anymore, you know, it's there's
Speaker 1: speaking of people who are everybody's problem. You know who
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about today, Serene, I do, Oh
Speaker 1: I do. We're revisiting an ex of mine that we
Speaker 1: talked about before we had an intimate but brief relationship
Speaker 1: a couple of months ago, where we both discussed him.
Speaker 1: Uh and now he's back in my life. What can
Speaker 1: I say? Um? Now, now he's back in all of
Speaker 1: our lives because he refuses to leave. Today we are
Speaker 1: talking about our dear friend and special boy, Jacob Wool.
Speaker 1: Special boy, what a special special boy. Punch of my face.
Speaker 1: When we when we last talked about Jacob, I ended
Speaker 1: that episode with the line. As of this episode, Jacob
Speaker 1: Wowl is still under investigation by the FBI. He is
Speaker 1: also still on Twitter now today, in the Year of
Speaker 1: Our Lord twenty nineteen, only one of those things is
Speaker 1: currently true. Jacob Bowl is no longer allowed on any
Speaker 1: social media And we'll get to y in a little bit.
Speaker 1: But first let's talk about his trip to Minneapolis, Minnesota.
Speaker 1: So on February nineteen, conservative grifter slash filmmaker Ali Alexander
Speaker 1: created the Investigate ilhan Omar fund on his right wing
Speaker 1: news and politics website Culture and You're done. Well, does
Speaker 1: it change your mind to know that his right wing
Speaker 1: news and politics website Culture has spells culture with three
Speaker 1: t s. The fuck why? I I don't know, you know,
Speaker 1: I assume there's an explanation the spelling it with three k's, Like,
Speaker 1: what's the well, I mean, I have a point, You
Speaker 1: have a point, Alie Alexander is is not a white guy,
Speaker 1: so he can't be racist. So, I mean, that's just
Speaker 1: that argument there has just wiped out immediately. He probably
Speaker 1: we should have no issues with the documentary he makes
Speaker 1: about ilhan Omar. That's true, you know, you know, he
Speaker 1: probably doesn't see color. He probably uh has a lot
Speaker 1: of good points of view that I need to hear
Speaker 1: about because his experience is just so much more valid
Speaker 1: than my own, so I must listen. Yeah. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: his investigation of elhan Omar had had no racial tinge
Speaker 1: to it whatsoever. He just wanted to investigate to see
Speaker 1: whether or not she married her brother in order to
Speaker 1: immigrate to the United States. Now, there was no evidence
Speaker 1: whatsoever and has never been any evidence whatsoever to substantiate
Speaker 1: this claim. However, Alie Alexander solicited twenty five tho dollars
Speaker 1: in donations to send a team to Minneapolis to investigate
Speaker 1: these claims. That team wound up consisting of Jacob Wool
Speaker 1: and Laura lumer Dream Team. Yeah, if you're unaware of
Speaker 1: Miss Laura lumer Um. She is a twenty five year
Speaker 1: old fake journalist most famous for badly handcuffing herself to
Speaker 1: Twitter's headquarters after being banned from that service for repeatedly
Speaker 1: harassing representative Omar. She was so bad at handcuffing herself
Speaker 1: when she when she handcuffed herself to the door, her
Speaker 1: goal was to stop people from entering Twitter, but she
Speaker 1: didn't know how to operate handcuffs or doors very well,
Speaker 1: so she only handcuffed herself to one side of the door,
Speaker 1: so Twitter employees were able to continue to enter and leave.
Speaker 1: When the police showed up, they asked Twitter like, do
Speaker 1: you want her removed? And they're just like no, Like
Speaker 1: she can stay handcuffed to the one door, like, this
Speaker 1: is not an SNL skit or this is our reality
Speaker 1: that this is Yeah, this dumb bitch. Yeah. So this
Speaker 1: is the team. This is the dream team that Ali
Speaker 1: Alexander assembled to investigate Ilhanna Omar's background. Um As, Luma
Speaker 1: and Wold took to the streets of Minneapolis, they began
Speaker 1: to fill the Internet with hilarious periscope videos of their adventures.
Speaker 1: Here's one video clip of Jacob telling the world about
Speaker 1: the Sharia police, who he believes absolutely exist in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Again,
Speaker 1: I can't emphasize enough. He's claiming, this is happening in
Speaker 1: fucking Minnesota. Now, if you're not familiar with Minnesota, you
Speaker 1: don't know how this works. But the Islamicist forces here
Speaker 1: have taken over sections of the respective police departments police
Speaker 1: in Minnesota. Now there are men who walk around an
Speaker 1: orange vast that say Sharia police in some of these
Speaker 1: Somali communities, and they're enforcing Sharia lat And let me add,
Speaker 1: you're gonna see all this in the video we're producing.
Speaker 1: We've got two camera guys there over here and over here,
Speaker 1: uh and and and much more production crew, you name it. Now,
Speaker 1: here's another clip of Jacob Wohl and Lord Lumer talking
Speaker 1: about the massive security team they totally need for all
Speaker 1: of the dangerous Islamists that they say are absolutely following
Speaker 1: them around the streets of Minneapolis. Yes, yes, you have to.
Speaker 1: We've got a top notch security team here to get
Speaker 1: us around, get us from point to point B there
Speaker 1: right here and right here behind the camera you can't
Speaker 1: see him. And we've been going from point to point
Speaker 1: B in convoy, uh you know, armored cars, you name it,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, we needed to. We were afraid
Speaker 1: that we were going to be tailed. We were afraid
Speaker 1: that il Han, the jihadi Omar, would send somebody after
Speaker 1: us and tail us as we got out here. Il
Speaker 1: Han d hottest o bar are you shooting me? My
Speaker 1: mouth is on the floor. What the ship? Also, also
Speaker 1: behind the camera, they're sitting in a bathroom. I can
Speaker 1: see the reflection of the light in the mirror behind
Speaker 1: the door behind them. There's nothing behind them but a
Speaker 1: fucking bathroom mirror. There's no armored trucks or camera crew.
Speaker 1: It's you're you're taking a fucking vlog for YouTube? What
Speaker 1: the funk are you? Yeah? I wanted those back to
Speaker 1: back so you could hear them refer to their camera
Speaker 1: crew as just off screen and their security crew as
Speaker 1: Jeff stoff screen in the same video, because it's clear
Speaker 1: that they don't have any any sort of team. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: we all had fun, those of us who followed Jacob
Speaker 1: Bowl on the Internet watching the ridiculous videos they put out.
Speaker 1: There was no evidence, ever, provided that his security team existed.
Speaker 1: There was no evidence provided of Sharia police enforcing Sharia
Speaker 1: law and fucking Minneapolis. Jacob Bowl did show up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jacob Bowl did show up at one point in a
Speaker 1: video wearing a fancy bulletproof vest, which was embarrassing to
Speaker 1: me because it turns out that we both own the
Speaker 1: same brand of bulletroof vest. Um. Yeah, we claimed we received.
Speaker 1: If I were you, I would never share that fact
Speaker 1: with anybody. But it's not great. I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's it's a nice vest. Uh, it's frustrating. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: all that vest ever wanted to do with stop bullets now? Uh.
Speaker 1: Woll claim to have received numerous death threats while investigating
Speaker 1: Ilhan Omar, and when the twenty three minute documentary importing
Speaker 1: Ilhan eventually launched on Cult to Chairs website, it included
Speaker 1: a segment where Will reported his death threats to the
Speaker 1: Minneapolis police. That segment of the documentary is noteworthy because
Speaker 1: it included a close end shot of one of the
Speaker 1: so called threats, which read, I hope you fucking know
Speaker 1: that if I bump into you in dinky Town or
Speaker 1: anywhere else in my city, I'm going to shoot you
Speaker 1: and shift on your fucking bodies. Get the funk out
Speaker 1: of my city, you piece of ship. Now. Now, sure
Speaker 1: keep that threatened mind, because it's going to be relevant
Speaker 1: again in just a minute or so. But speaking of
Speaker 1: ship again, some people are into that. People are into that,
Speaker 1: you know. I think Jacob Bowl might be into that
Speaker 1: he wrote that death threat. Uh, but we'll get to
Speaker 1: that in a second now. I've been unable to watch
Speaker 1: a copy of the full documentary tragically, because it's been
Speaker 1: pulled from the Internet due to several crimes that Jacob
Speaker 1: Will committed on video. I did find one breakdown of
Speaker 1: the film's claims against representative Omar by journalist Tony Webster.
Speaker 1: Here's his tweet. Here's everything said about Ilhan Omar by
Speaker 1: interviewees and right wing video that aimed to end her career.
Speaker 1: I don't know much about her. I met her twice,
Speaker 1: She's held events, she's had a lot of coverage. She's okay,
Speaker 1: she goes too fast, has to slow down. And marriage
Speaker 1: allegation just a rumor. So that's what the documentary actually
Speaker 1: included in terms of real revelations. For a little while,
Speaker 1: Wol's trip to Minneapolis seemed like it might have been
Speaker 1: a competent grift. Everything he said there was an obvious
Speaker 1: lie and it wasn't going to do any damage to
Speaker 1: ilhan Omar's career. But he and Laura Lumer's claims that
Speaker 1: they were being hunted by his Lamists and needed money
Speaker 1: to rent armored cars were successful in drumming up thousands
Speaker 1: of dollars in donation from gullible baby boomers who think
Speaker 1: Minneapolis is an eye his stronghold. And then, on February
Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen, USA Today published an interview with Jacob
Speaker 1: Wool titled this twenty one year old tweeted lies about
Speaker 1: Robert Mueller and Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Now he's eyeing the election.
Speaker 1: The article opened by focusing on Wohl's latest lie. Yeah
Speaker 1: now he is, Yeah, he's at what age would you guess?
Speaker 1: I don't know why I thought he was way older
Speaker 1: than that, And maybe I think it's just looks disgusting
Speaker 1: to the point where like a young man can't be
Speaker 1: that that ravaged by by disease and and just filth.
Speaker 1: You know, it's because being a gross criminal grifter ages
Speaker 1: you like, look at Paul Redd. Paul Red's like fifty five,
Speaker 1: and you wouldn't guess he's a day over thirty because
Speaker 1: I don't think Paul Redd has ever been mean to anyone.
Speaker 1: He's just pure. Yeah, Jacob wol is just a piece
Speaker 1: of ship. And so he looks like he's in his thirties.
Speaker 1: I really thought he was in his thirties. This baby
Speaker 1: just during twenty fucking one. I mean, how we already
Speaker 1: said Laura Luomer's age, but I'm gonna guess you didn't
Speaker 1: pay or she is? How old would you guess she
Speaker 1: is based on the video I just saw it also
Speaker 1: in like late thirties. She's just no actually good for you? Also,
Speaker 1: quick question, So they were united after she handcuffed herself
Speaker 1: to the door. They were not friends before, but he
Speaker 1: just like he was just like we should reunite forces
Speaker 1: because we're both after the same target. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: he saw that. And she also she showed up on
Speaker 1: the lawn of Nancy Pelosi's house and got a couple
Speaker 1: of illegal immigrants that she paid to like pretend to
Speaker 1: be protesters arrested. Also after seeing the videos of them
Speaker 1: seeing next to each other, they are one. Uh they
Speaker 1: recorded that and they're shared hotel room show. Sophie's making
Speaker 1: the thing at me. Sophie says that she's not. There's
Speaker 1: nothing his boss have dropped. While that is a valid
Speaker 1: point pegging and probably bringing back to pegging, he actually
Speaker 1: he's not smart enough to know how how fun that
Speaker 1: could be. Um. But I mean, Sharine, I think what
Speaker 1: this means is that you and I need to film
Speaker 1: our own documentary in the spirit of importing Ilhan called
Speaker 1: pegging Wool. Oh my god, just just investigate the very credible.
Speaker 1: We should definitely do pegging. But his name is Wool.
Speaker 1: We should do shearing wool like wol oh damn, like
Speaker 1: a fucking sheep, you know, and it will in you know,
Speaker 1: we'll incorporate it in somehow. Um, it'll be like the
Speaker 1: trojan horse. The trojan horse of our documentary is the pegging,
Speaker 1: and it's going to be. I just love a good pun.
Speaker 1: You know, I love a good wool. Yeah. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to like a wool in sheets. Doesn't work. Um, well,
Speaker 1: we'll work on this one. Yeah. Sorry, We're gonna workshop
Speaker 1: this next time. Well, we'll kick it around to our
Speaker 1: writing team and we'll get back to the listeners. Your people,
Speaker 1: my people will connect. We'll put together twenty five grand
Speaker 1: and put up another documentary on culta to cheer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which I assume is how it's every time, every time
Speaker 1: you say it, I get more and more confused. But
Speaker 1: it's fine. Yeah. Now. That USA Today article opened by
Speaker 1: focusing on Jacob Wohl's latest lie. I claim that Kamala
Speaker 1: Harris was ineligible to be president because your parents weren't
Speaker 1: legal residents for five years prior to her birth. That
Speaker 1: was a lie, Like literally everything ever said by Jacob Wol. Ever,
Speaker 1: here's how the USA Today quoted the boy. The believability
Speaker 1: is stuck at about fifteen to eighteen percent by my measurement,
Speaker 1: Woll said in an interview shortly afterward, declaring it not
Speaker 1: a bad campaign. I love that you said the boy.
Speaker 1: I like that, Yeah, I said the boy. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: quoted the Boy Oh, he's a boy he child, He's
Speaker 1: a boy child. Yeah, he's a boy child. Now. In
Speaker 1: that USA Today interview, Wool was happy, I would even say,
Speaker 1: eager to explain the other grifts and cons he had
Speaker 1: in the works, seemingly oblivious to the fact that these
Speaker 1: kind of things don't fucking work if you spoil them.
Speaker 1: Quote from USA Today, he says he planned to create
Speaker 1: enormous left wing online properties, such as deceptive Facebook and
Speaker 1: Twitter accounts, and use those to steer the left wing
Speaker 1: votes in the primaries to what we feel are weaker
Speaker 1: candidates compared with Trump. It's a plot similar to what
Speaker 1: Mueller has charged an indictment that the Russians crafted in
Speaker 1: an effort to boost the two thousand sixteen campaigns of
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders and Jill Stein and hobble Hillary Clinton. Another
Speaker 1: stated scheme seeking to collect damaging information on left leaning nonprofits,
Speaker 1: including Media Matters for America, the Southern Poverty Law Center,
Speaker 1: and Right Wing Watch by offering their insiders moral reconciliation
Speaker 1: and if that doesn't work, things of worth, such as
Speaker 1: money or perhaps these stated plan themselves are a ruse
Speaker 1: to fool the mainstream media, which Wol calls a band
Speaker 1: of lying goblins a band of that's a good band name. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is a good band name, Lying Goblins. Yeah. Now,
Speaker 1: it's funny to me that Woe refers to the mainstream
Speaker 1: media as a pack of lying goblins, because minutes later
Speaker 1: in the same interview, he states that the accuracy of
Speaker 1: his statements is not the important part. He claims truth
Speaker 1: is an obsolete concept, and brags about the fact that
Speaker 1: he was wearing a gun to their meeting at a
Speaker 1: hipster coffee shop in Orange County because of all of
Speaker 1: the death threats he says he receives him. He's a goblin.
Speaker 1: He's a little goblin. He does look like a little goblin.
Speaker 1: If you were going to cast another Lord of the
Speaker 1: Rings movie, but you didn't have money for like, uh,
Speaker 1: props and prosthetics and stuff, you could just have Jacob
Speaker 1: Bowl play all the goblins. Yeah, And you know what
Speaker 1: that's a good use for Jacob Bowl is having him
Speaker 1: play goblins. Everyone has their calling, you know, some people. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he should get out of politics and get into playing
Speaker 1: a gob in Peter Jackson movies. Yeah, I mean Sniegel
Speaker 1: made it, made it, made a big deal, you know,
Speaker 1: like he's he's out there crushing it, you know. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he's doing great. Yeah. No, Gollum owns that sweetass house
Speaker 1: in the Hollywood Hills. I think he's dating Cheryald TEGs right,
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, will come from anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead. Sorry, I was going to say something, but
Speaker 1: so plumb forgot. Do you remember from our last episode
Speaker 1: how Jacob Bowl loves to make claims about things he's
Speaker 1: overheard in hipster coffee shops. Oh my god, yes please.
Speaker 1: One example of those tweets would be this October two.
Speaker 1: That's an eighteen tweet. I was sitting in a hipster
Speaker 1: coffee shop in downtown l A this morning and couldn't
Speaker 1: help it. Over here the six college aged women seated
Speaker 1: at a table who were clamoring with excitement and joy
Speaker 1: over the confirmation of Judge Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court. So,
Speaker 1: just in case you haven't listened to the other episode,
Speaker 1: that's the kind of claims Jacob Bowl would make about
Speaker 1: the things he overheard in hipster coffee shops. USA Today
Speaker 1: asked him about this quote. Well, looks Lane that he
Speaker 1: picks on bohemian coffee shops because he sees them as
Speaker 1: the temple mount of liberalism and calculated that if you
Speaker 1: in any way impugne the sanctity of the hipster coffee shop,
Speaker 1: it's going to be something that gets them really charged up.
Speaker 1: And describing his methods well, casually explained that he makes
Speaker 1: it up. Literally, here one thing and flip it a
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty degrees. That's just lying. But I think
Speaker 1: he's he's fine with that. Yeah, yeah, he's garbage. What
Speaker 1: do you think the Starbucks order is skinny? Not that vanilla?
Speaker 1: Two pumps of of of what do people? I don't
Speaker 1: drink coffee, I don't know. In the in the USA
Speaker 1: Today interview, he just had a cup of water, I think,
Speaker 1: because he might be we Wow, he's those He's one
Speaker 1: of those fuckers that goes to a coffee shop and
Speaker 1: just drinks water and sits there for hours and hours,
Speaker 1: I think. So I get that feeling from Jacob Bowl.
Speaker 1: I also get that feeling that he has a delicate
Speaker 1: constitution and coffee might hurt his tummy. Tommy tummy. What
Speaker 1: a poor baby, What a poor little baby? You know
Speaker 1: who's not poor baby? Cherine ad seals the sponsors and
Speaker 1: or solicitors who solicitors negative connotation. I want to say, solicitors,
Speaker 1: are they negative connotation to it? People putting no solicitors
Speaker 1: on their doors sometimes, But I don't really know what
Speaker 1: the word means. Hit. I mean I solicit lots of stuff,
Speaker 1: but not at doors. Yeah, true, Okay, Sorry, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: distracting you from your main goal here. Products, We're back.
Speaker 1: We're we're talking about Jacob Wall in his USA Today interview. Now.
Speaker 1: USA Today also spoke with Carolyne Cass for the article.
Speaker 1: Miss Cass is the woman that Wol and his partner
Speaker 1: Berkman claimed had been assaulted by Robert Mueller. Cass claimed
Speaker 1: that she had actually tried to hire Wall when she
Speaker 1: believed him to be a legitimate private investigator. She paid
Speaker 1: him two thousand dollars to help her with unscrupulous characters
Speaker 1: ripping her off, and then was apparently promptly ripped off
Speaker 1: by Wool himself a fake, like a pre a good teenager.
Speaker 1: I don't understand she didn't know it was a teenager.
Speaker 1: He used a different name, he called himself Cohen, and
Speaker 1: she only met him on the phone up until they
Speaker 1: were already like in business. Yeah, I'm gonna guess she
Speaker 1: was not the most uh careful person, which is probably
Speaker 1: why she got ripped off by other people. Um, but
Speaker 1: you know, if you're Jacob Bowl and you're putting out
Speaker 1: Craigslist ads saying that this is the business you're in,
Speaker 1: you might get some people that you can take advantage of.
Speaker 1: Not that she deserves to be taken advantage of, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess that's kind of what happened. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Whole and Berkman his partner, immediately ripped Casts off.
Speaker 1: They wrote up a list of fake allegations and Docu
Speaker 1: signed it with her name. According to USA Today, she
Speaker 1: claimed Cohen tried to get her to Cohen, which is
Speaker 1: Wool tried to get her to speak at the news conference,
Speaker 1: but she escaped and learned only as the scheme exploded
Speaker 1: that Cohen was, in fact Wool. He completely lied to me.
Speaker 1: Cast said, So, yeah, that's cool. Now make a notice
Speaker 1: of the fact that she said she had to escape
Speaker 1: from Woolan Berkman, because this will not be the first
Speaker 1: time somebody makes a claim or the last time somebody
Speaker 1: makes a claim like that in this episode. Yeah. The
Speaker 1: most impactful reveal in that USA Today article was that
Speaker 1: Jacob Wohl bragged at length about creating fake Twitter accounts
Speaker 1: in order to help spread his lies. This was a
Speaker 1: clear violation of Twitter's terms of service, and it did
Speaker 1: not take long for reporters, namely NBC's Ben Collins, to
Speaker 1: identify some of these fake accounts and publicize them. Wol
Speaker 1: was banned from Twitter within hours of the USA Today
Speaker 1: articles publication. In classic Jacob Wol fashion, he pretended this
Speaker 1: clear and hilarious failure on his part was actually yet
Speaker 1: another victorious move and his endless thirty nine dimension chess game.
Speaker 1: Here's Wold being interviewed by fellow grifter Ali Alexander for
Speaker 1: another video on Culta to cheer number one. This could
Speaker 1: not have happened at a better time. Jacob Wowl is
Speaker 1: number one trending on Twitter right now, and I'm promoting
Speaker 1: a press conference, and now people are going to go
Speaker 1: to that press conference, and it's going to be even
Speaker 1: bigger and here than we even thought. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: going to be brimming over with people. It's going to
Speaker 1: be brimming over with people. So I'm glad it happened now.
Speaker 1: I think that's perfect. The other thing that I'm glad
Speaker 1: about is is. Luckily, because I was expecting this. I
Speaker 1: have set up myself to make a living in a
Speaker 1: way that doesn't require Twitter, because that would be very fragile,
Speaker 1: and I want to be as as notesome to live.
Speaker 1: I would call it anti fragile. So this isn't going
Speaker 1: to affect my living as it has with some other folks.
Speaker 1: But the pattern is clear. Laura Lumer investigates il ilhan
Speaker 1: Omar band, Jacob Angles investigates and tweets about ilhan Omar band.
Speaker 1: Jacoble finally gets the goods and puts on a press
Speaker 1: conference band. But I can promise you one thing. Ilhan
Speaker 1: Omar is going to be rocked by what we're going
Speaker 1: to release on Thursday. The halls of Congress are going
Speaker 1: to be rocked by what we're going to release on Thursday.
Speaker 1: And uh it will be number one trending on Twitter.
Speaker 1: So Twitter can say whatever they want. So that's what
Speaker 1: will claimed in the aftermath of that. Uh. Now, a
Speaker 1: little bit of a spoiler, ilhan omer was not rocked
Speaker 1: by any of his allegations because there was no evidence
Speaker 1: behind them. Press conference, she wasn't rocked. Yeah, the press
Speaker 1: conference did not attract a huge audience. But something fun
Speaker 1: did happen. See when a USA Today article dropped, reporter
Speaker 1: Ben Collins exposed one of wolves fake accounts has already
Speaker 1: stayed a fake account for a guy named Drake Holmes,
Speaker 1: who was supposed to be a Minneapolis born and raised
Speaker 1: diversity coordinator because we wanted to make fun of diversity.
Speaker 1: I guess uh. In this fake account, fake Drake misspelled
Speaker 1: his own last name and his Twitter account. Uh. Not
Speaker 1: long after the revelation that Drake Holmes was, of course,
Speaker 1: Jacob Wohl Tony Webster, another journalist realized that the death
Speaker 1: threat shown in the Importing Ilhan documentary had been filed
Speaker 1: by Drake Holmes, a k a. Jacob wol. Now, this
Speaker 1: is a crime. You can't file fake death threats against
Speaker 1: yourself and report them to the police. Or you can,
Speaker 1: but it's illegal. So Jacob Will by admitting in an
Speaker 1: interview that he made fake threats and then creating incredibly
Speaker 1: obvious fake Twitter accounts, and then using those incredibly obvious
Speaker 1: fake Twitter accounts that he bragged about to threaten to
Speaker 1: murder himself and then going to the police with it,
Speaker 1: had committed an incredibly obvious and very well documented crime,
Speaker 1: which is just a hoot. Is he going to get
Speaker 1: any repercussions for this crime? That's a great question. Is
Speaker 1: he still making fucking YouTube vlogs? What's the That's what
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about right now. Actually, um, so it
Speaker 1: does seem like he might actually eventually face some some
Speaker 1: real repercussions. Young Turks journalist Ken Klippenstein filed a Foyer
Speaker 1: request for documents pertaining to Surefire Intelligence, which is the
Speaker 1: fake intelligence firm that Wol created to slander Robert Mueller.
Speaker 1: The FBI refused Ken's records request, and he gave the
Speaker 1: excuse that they couldn't give him the records because those
Speaker 1: records pertained to an ongoing criminal probe, which means there's
Speaker 1: an FBI criminal probe going on into Jacob wol fake
Speaker 1: intelligence company and his attempt to slander Special Counsel Robert Mueller. Um. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Jared Holt, another journalist who covers the far right quote,
Speaker 1: tweeted Clippinstein's threat about his foy A denial letter and noted,
Speaker 1: funny I got a similar response from the State of Minnesota,
Speaker 1: which means there's an ongoing investigation to Jacob Bowl's activities.
Speaker 1: In the state of Minnesota for the fake death threats.
Speaker 1: So it does seem like the wheels of justice might
Speaker 1: slowly be turning towards Jacob Wol getting in trouble for
Speaker 1: committing constant incompetent crimes. Ever so slowly not fast enough. Now.
Speaker 1: February was a crowded month for Jacob Wol. It ended
Speaker 1: with yet another press conference from him and Jack Berkman,
Speaker 1: this one at Sea Pack, the annual gathering of conservatives
Speaker 1: and people who want to ogle conservatives in a safe,
Speaker 1: well lit building. By this point, wolves griffs had become
Speaker 1: obvious enough that Seapack barred him from doing any event
Speaker 1: at the conference itself, so instead he and Berkman held
Speaker 1: their press conference in the busy lobby. Uh. Nothing really
Speaker 1: happened at the conference. Laura Luomer screamed that she and
Speaker 1: Wol deserve to get their Twitter accounts back. Jacob Wohl
Speaker 1: tried to claim that the Muller investigation was done with
Speaker 1: and everyone should instead focus on their investigation of ilhan Omar.
Speaker 1: The journalist and attendants, however, just wanted to know if
Speaker 1: he was being investigated by the FBI for my money.
Speaker 1: The highlight of the event was a man in an
Speaker 1: ill fitting suit Wall had paid to pretend to be
Speaker 1: a bodyguard, wearing a single Apple AirPod in his ear
Speaker 1: to pretend that he had like one of those one
Speaker 1: of those secret service things going on. Wow loves hiring
Speaker 1: fake bodyguardsthetic. M hm. Also, it's obviously an AirPod, Like
Speaker 1: it's not like we all know what they look like. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's Jacob Ble is a perfect example of a very
Speaker 1: dumb young man who thinks that because he's incapable of,
Speaker 1: you know, thinking at a higher level than his own
Speaker 1: brain works at, assumes everyone is as dumb as he
Speaker 1: is um, which is very dumb. So Jacob Wohl would
Speaker 1: be fooled by some and wearing an Apple AirPod in
Speaker 1: one ear, pretending to be a secret service type agent,
Speaker 1: but sadly no one else's well now. For about a
Speaker 1: month or so after this press conference, it seemed like
Speaker 1: Jacob Bowl might be fading into obscurity. But then in
Speaker 1: late April, The Daily Beast published an article revealing his
Speaker 1: latest scam, an attempt to slander Democratic candidate and mayor
Speaker 1: Pete butter Jig with sexually assaulting a young man who
Speaker 1: was too drunk to consent, So another false Raith allegation,
Speaker 1: which is what cool people do. I think I think
Speaker 1: he is unable to be forgotten about ultimately, Yeah, because
Speaker 1: like he didn't want to go into obscurity. That's not
Speaker 1: his deal. He's like even though that video was like
Speaker 1: I don't want to be on Twitter anyway because I
Speaker 1: want to I want to be anti fragile also like
Speaker 1: a dumb word. But uh, he misses Twitter so much.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine like Donald Trump being banned from Twitter. No,
Speaker 1: these people thrive on their dumb opinions, just like thwart
Speaker 1: into the air. And he if he doesn't have Twitter,
Speaker 1: he has to be in the media somehow. And that's
Speaker 1: that's just whole his all fucking stick. That's that's his lifeblood,
Speaker 1: you know. That is like it's all about attention for him.
Speaker 1: It's the only thing that he cares about. And to
Speaker 1: the to the point that like that's part of why
Speaker 1: none of his grifts really work in the long run,
Speaker 1: because he's a he's incapable of thinking things out. Like
Speaker 1: Roger Stone would probably be down to file fake sexual
Speaker 1: assault allegations against someone, but he wouldn't do it. Twice
Speaker 1: in a year after the first one explodes, he would
Speaker 1: be more canny about it. He'd spend more time setting
Speaker 1: it up. Uh, he'd make it harder to catch, and
Speaker 1: he wouldn't immediately commit the same grift like five months
Speaker 1: later after the first month failed, because he's just a
Speaker 1: little bit smarter than that. Like he's not smart, but
Speaker 1: he's a little But also like, uh, maybe he wouldn't
Speaker 1: even have been the face of it, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like he doesn't need Like the fact that
Speaker 1: Jacob wool needs to be the face and the person
Speaker 1: that's coming out with this news is just indicative of
Speaker 1: a personality that needs attention more than anything else. He's
Speaker 1: not looking for the truth or anything else. He wants
Speaker 1: to be this face of of revelation in bullshit. You know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he wants to be facing down a bunch of press
Speaker 1: guys dressed in a suit. Uh. He wants to feel
Speaker 1: like an FBI agent, but without like the air power
Speaker 1: or investigating anything. Yeah, Like he there's there's all these
Speaker 1: pieces of other careers like politics and journalism and law
Speaker 1: enforcement that he wants to end, like it the finance
Speaker 1: industry that he wants to have, But the only pieces
Speaker 1: he wants of them are like the public facing pieces
Speaker 1: that he's seen in movies. He doesn't in none of
Speaker 1: the jobs that he wants to do. Does he actually
Speaker 1: want to do the work? Keep in mind he I mean,
Speaker 1: has he gone to any type of schooling or anything
Speaker 1: to accomplish any type of actual I don't know. Like
Speaker 1: he's just a rich kid, like flaunting around his much money.
Speaker 1: He's just a rich kid who's dad is like a
Speaker 1: lawyer who advised Donald Trump on stuff, who wants to
Speaker 1: do shady, gross politics stuff and doesn't actually want to
Speaker 1: work hard. Yeah, that's Jacob Wol. Yeah. What a man,
Speaker 1: What a man, What a man, What a mighty good man. Now,
Speaker 1: the fake allegations against Pete Butter jig blew up in
Speaker 1: Wolve's face because the young man they picked to make
Speaker 1: the allegations, a Republican himself, went to The Daily Beast
Speaker 1: with recorded audio of Wolan Berkman trying to convince him
Speaker 1: to lie about a sexual assault. Oh my god. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the guy recognized wol immediately and was like, well, I
Speaker 1: gotta take this meeting, but I'm just gonna record everything
Speaker 1: they say and go to this guy like this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm alright, with this guy quote. The source who
Speaker 1: spoke to The Daily Beast said Berkman and wol made
Speaker 1: clear that their goal was to kneecap butter Jig's momentum
Speaker 1: in the presidential race. The man asked to remain anonymous
Speaker 1: out of a concerned that the resulting publicity might imperil
Speaker 1: his employment, and because, he said Wollen Berkman have a
Speaker 1: reputation for vindictiveness. So several days before the Beast article
Speaker 1: could run, a young man named Hunter Kelly published a
Speaker 1: post on Medium alleging that Pete Butterjig had assaulted him
Speaker 1: in February of this year. The post was tweeted by
Speaker 1: a Trump advisor and by Jacob's dad, David Wool, and
Speaker 1: wound up on Big League Politics, the right wing political
Speaker 1: conspiracy website. Journalists and and instantly recognized some things that
Speaker 1: looked pretty spishy about these allegations, like the fact that
Speaker 1: Kelly's Medium and Twitter accounts were both less than a
Speaker 1: month old, and that the main person he'd interacted with
Speaker 1: on social media was Jacob Wool. Can you be more obvious?
Speaker 1: Are you? S's so bad at this. He's so bad
Speaker 1: at this, Like it almost upsets me. It almost upsets
Speaker 1: me that someone with that much money and and connections
Speaker 1: can't get like one thing right, like not not not
Speaker 1: a single aspect of any of this right. Like there's
Speaker 1: terrible guys like Paul Manaford who you look at in
Speaker 1: your like their monsters, but at least like most of
Speaker 1: the things they've done worked like this, they're not an
Speaker 1: idiot like he's a more. Yeah, he doesn't deserve any
Speaker 1: part of his wealth or any part of his entitlement
Speaker 1: or privilege like he is. He's just Yeah. You can
Speaker 1: say about Roger Stone and Paul Manafort. They don't deserve
Speaker 1: their wealth or or their success that they've had, but
Speaker 1: they at least deserve to be famous because the things
Speaker 1: that they've done have had an impact on history. Jacob
Speaker 1: wool is like that person without ever having an impact.
Speaker 1: He's done nothing but like give journalists something to giggle over.
Speaker 1: He's just flailing. He's flailing for attention. Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: pretty sad. Now, Um, that doesn't mean I'm gonna stop
Speaker 1: laughing about him, because I need something to laugh about.
Speaker 1: And uh and these this really wipes the payday loan
Speaker 1: staying out of my mouth. Oh we're gonna We're gonna
Speaker 1: keep going on here. The Daily Beast managed to track
Speaker 1: down the real Hunter Kelly, who said that the accounts
Speaker 1: created in his name were not under his control. He
Speaker 1: eventually posted a message to his Facebook timeline titled I
Speaker 1: was not sexually assaulted quote to keep it brief for now.
Speaker 1: I was approached by a political figure to come to
Speaker 1: d C to discuss political situations from the standpoint of
Speaker 1: a gay Republican. When I arrived, they discussed Peter butter
Speaker 1: Jig and started talking about how they would be working
Speaker 1: a campaign against him. I went to bed and woke
Speaker 1: up to a fake Twitter at real Hunter Kelly and
Speaker 1: an article that I in no way endorsed. He wrote,
Speaker 1: I have since left and him working on a formal
Speaker 1: statement to give to everyone, including the butter Jig family.
Speaker 1: Kelly claims that Wohl and Berkman basically flew him the
Speaker 1: d C and then printed up a fake statement they
Speaker 1: wanted him to sign that then posted the statement without
Speaker 1: his permission, according to the Daily Beast quote. He went
Speaker 1: on to say that they also tried to get him
Speaker 1: to sign off on a script for a press conference
Speaker 1: over his protests, but he called his family to come
Speaker 1: get him and then fled. This is the second person
Speaker 1: that's felt like they had to flee the presence of
Speaker 1: Jacob Bowl and Jack Berkman. Now what's interesting to me
Speaker 1: is that both of the men Woln Berkman tried to
Speaker 1: con into reporting butt a jig were Republicans, Trump supporters,
Speaker 1: Even it seems that Wole and his partner just sort
Speaker 1: of expected that their fellow conservatives would be down for
Speaker 1: any kind of grift that hurt Democrats, even if it
Speaker 1: meant implicating themselves in an obvious crimes concocted by idiots
Speaker 1: with the history of having their crimes instantly exposed. The
Speaker 1: audio recorded by the Daily Beast source gives some insight
Speaker 1: into precisely how Wol tried to sell these young men
Speaker 1: on engaging in a criminal conspiracy to falsify rape allegations. Quote.
Speaker 1: When the source expressed reluctance, they assured him the scheme
Speaker 1: would make him wealthy, famous, and a star in Republican politics.
Speaker 1: Wol cited the national recognition given to Christine Blassie Ford
Speaker 1: after she accused Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh of sexual
Speaker 1: assault during his confirmation hearings last year. The source did
Speaker 1: not agree to participate in the scheme, but Roll followed
Speaker 1: up with a phone call a day or two later
Speaker 1: to see if he could recommend friends or associates who
Speaker 1: might be a good fit to play the victim and
Speaker 1: the hoax. I do I do want to I do
Speaker 1: want to bring up the fact that in our previous
Speaker 1: episod but Payday Loans, when they were trying to con
Speaker 1: the Economist to write that article about them, in their
Speaker 1: response email, they promised fame and everyone's going to be
Speaker 1: knocking on your door or like whatever, like that's all
Speaker 1: that's their ploys, Like you're gonna get so famous from this. Also,
Speaker 1: Christine Waldi Ford was fucking like crucified by the media
Speaker 1: that I can't imagine. I can't imagine a worse kind
Speaker 1: of fame to get the thing that she had. It's
Speaker 1: saying like it seems like it was an unspeakable night,
Speaker 1: mayor for her and her family, which shows the kind
Speaker 1: of person Wool is because I really don't think I
Speaker 1: think he was telling the truth and that he believed
Speaker 1: that she got famous and it was a good thing,
Speaker 1: because I think he's incapable of seeing any kind of attention.
Speaker 1: It's bad, and she did get a lot of attention,
Speaker 1: and so that's a bad press is still pressed in
Speaker 1: his Yeah. Yeah, So he sees this woman being like
Speaker 1: attacked by the entire right wing media ecosystem and like
Speaker 1: like but the president of the United everyone knew her name. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so he's jealous of yeah, Which there's a core
Speaker 1: of something deeply sad and pressing there. Very pathetic. It's
Speaker 1: very pathetic given given the world we live in. I'm
Speaker 1: not for a goddamn second going to feel bad about
Speaker 1: Jacob Woarl just going to laugh about him too. Again,
Speaker 1: clear the worst bastards out of my head. While we uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: we talked about this. So the Daily Beast looked into
Speaker 1: the phone number that Wol called from. It traced back
Speaker 1: to a company, Potomac Intelligence Group, which claimed to be
Speaker 1: a political and corporate intel firm just like Surefire Intelligence.
Speaker 1: Minutes after The Daily Beast reached out to Wool about
Speaker 1: Potomac Intelligence, the website was taken down. So, if you
Speaker 1: know anything about Jacob wol you know a little thing
Speaker 1: like repeatedly being revealed as a fraud wasn't going to
Speaker 1: stop one of his grifts. Wool and Jack Berkman next
Speaker 1: announced a press conference. It would be hosted in the
Speaker 1: driveway of Berkman's house in northern Virginia. Two days before
Speaker 1: the event, Yeah, they've gone from like a holiday in
Speaker 1: for the molar one to like the lobby of c
Speaker 1: pack a driveway a driveway. Uh, the fucking stupid Fox, stupid,
Speaker 1: stupid Fox um. Two days before the event, Berkman tweeted
Speaker 1: a link to an event bright page called protest against
Speaker 1: the Homophobic Bigots. This was apparently an event organizing page
Speaker 1: for a protest against the press conference being hosted by
Speaker 1: Jacob Wool and Jack Berkman. Berkman claimed that the page
Speaker 1: was evidence of a real plan for hundreds of leftist
Speaker 1: protesters to disrupt their super important press conference. We will
Speaker 1: not surrender to the mob. We've called an extra security
Speaker 1: to guard our safety and that of our partners in
Speaker 1: the media. Now will Summer, the journalist who's probably done
Speaker 1: the most to cover wolves. Various gripts noted that quote.
Speaker 1: Before Berkman's tweet, no other Twitter account had promoted the
Speaker 1: event page. Another reporter, Jason Duckman, found at the event
Speaker 1: bright page had been started by someone using the email
Speaker 1: address Woll think tank at gmail dot com. It gets
Speaker 1: and just try to cover your tracks. Just try to
Speaker 1: make a fake email account. You know how many fake
Speaker 1: emails like accounts I've made, like a ten percent off discount,
Speaker 1: like some fucking new site or something like. It's very
Speaker 1: easy to make an email account, very easy. It's incredib
Speaker 1: It takes seconds, Jacob, like, it takes seconds. Come on, man, God,
Speaker 1: just upsetting. Yeah, it's it's frustrating. When what was confronted
Speaker 1: about this, he claimed, I've never used event bright in
Speaker 1: my life. It was created by a troll. We're gonna
Speaker 1: get to the rest of the story, but first, you
Speaker 1: know what's not an incredibly lazy and instantly spotted grift, Sharine,
Speaker 1: the products that sponsored the ship. Sponsors sponsors, not grifts
Speaker 1: at all. In fact, the products that actually deliver a service. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we need him as a fellow podcaster. I get it.
Speaker 1: Just support your support your hosts. I love a product,
Speaker 1: I love a service. Uh, here they are and we're back.
Speaker 1: So on the literal day I wrote this script, Jacob
Speaker 1: Wohl and Jack Berkman held their very important press conference
Speaker 1: in Berkman's very impressive driveway. The proceedings were interrupted several
Speaker 1: times by a garbage truck emptying Brookman's trash, and by
Speaker 1: several low flying airplaness why most professionals do not host
Speaker 1: press conferences and driveways. Wolan Berkman refuted the claims that
Speaker 1: they had basically kidnapped Hunter by pointing out that they
Speaker 1: bought him a Starbucks frappuccino and an expensive haircut. What
Speaker 1: did yeah. They then segued seamlessly to stating that they
Speaker 1: were investigating Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren and Biden's case,
Speaker 1: they think he might have parking since they invited all
Speaker 1: candidates to submit themselves to investigations in order to gain
Speaker 1: the sure to be coveted wol Berkman's Seal of approval.
Speaker 1: That's that's literally what they referred to it as is
Speaker 1: the wool Burkman Seal of Approval, which I can't imagine
Speaker 1: anything more prestigious, Like I can't that sounds that sounds
Speaker 1: really legit. It does. Like all their press conferences, this
Speaker 1: one fizzled out with nothing of value having been presented.
Speaker 1: The closest thing to a scoop was the ominous claim
Speaker 1: that Berkman's home would be the center of the election.
Speaker 1: His home, Yeah, he claimed his home was going to
Speaker 1: be the center of the election. Should have ever heard
Speaker 1: of of of the election? Your house? Yeah? My driveway,
Speaker 1: my lawn. God fuck off. If like me, you're one
Speaker 1: you're wanting to know exactly what Jacob Wowle and his
Speaker 1: bumbling sidekick Haff planned for two thousand twenty, I have
Speaker 1: some good news for you. A few days before Wol's
Speaker 1: latest grift collapsed in on itself, a document was leaked
Speaker 1: to The Daily Beat, a brochure for something called the
Speaker 1: Arlington's Center for Political Intelligence BUILD is a conservative political
Speaker 1: intelligence and advocacy organization. The a c p I claimed
Speaker 1: to be able to impact political outcomes for the benefit
Speaker 1: of conservative candidates. As you've surely guessed by now, the
Speaker 1: Arlington's Center for Political Intelligence is really just Jacob Woll.
Speaker 1: In this document, which was essentially an attempt at raising
Speaker 1: funds for his new company, Will claimed that a c
Speaker 1: p I would, among other things, operate a troll farm
Speaker 1: all the Internet research agency infiltrate their operatives into democratic
Speaker 1: campaigns and execute high impact publicity stunts to insert stories
Speaker 1: into the mainstream media that all sounds like things wall
Speaker 1: Is capable of doing, and he just doesn't know how
Speaker 1: to want to stop or how to stop. He's addicted. No, no,
Speaker 1: he's addicted to grifting and also terrible at it. Now.
Speaker 1: Will claimed that the a cp I needed one million
Speaker 1: dollars in funding from investors in order to care wry
Speaker 1: out its important mission. The document went out to lay
Speaker 1: out a number of plans, obviously cribbed from Russian actions
Speaker 1: laid out in the Molar report. Wol wants to use
Speaker 1: bot networks to build large accounts that poses leftists and
Speaker 1: then tell people at the last minute not to vote
Speaker 1: in That's actually a plan he laid out was to
Speaker 1: like pay bots to build fake leftist Twitter in Instagram
Speaker 1: accounts and then tell everybody unlike November Onet, not to vote.
Speaker 1: Brilliant scheme, yeah, yeah uh. He notes that the strategy
Speaker 1: was utilized by the Internet Research Agency with moderate effectiveness
Speaker 1: in two thousand sixteen, but with a superior handle on
Speaker 1: American cultural nuances, a c p I will be able
Speaker 1: to have a devastating impact on democratic candidates. So basically, like,
Speaker 1: because we know that social media, we're going to use
Speaker 1: it means yeah, and it's it's what's really funny to
Speaker 1: me is that he repeatedly references the Internet Research Agency,
Speaker 1: but then like kind of slams them for not understanding
Speaker 1: American culture and stuff and be like, we'll be better
Speaker 1: than them because we know America better. When it's like, dude,
Speaker 1: the Internet Research Agency succeeded in all of its goals,
Speaker 1: and you have fucked up every single grift you've ever
Speaker 1: tried to carry out. Don't don't pretend you're better than
Speaker 1: the Russians at this stuff like they got away with it,
Speaker 1: just the sheer level of ego on display. I want
Speaker 1: to know what a daily, what a day is like
Speaker 1: in Jacob Woul's life, Like I want to know, like
Speaker 1: if he puts on a shirt being like today's a day,
Speaker 1: Today's day. Everyone respects me, you know, the days of
Speaker 1: the day people see me as a serious political operation.
Speaker 1: That day will never come, jail. I'm so sorry. I'm
Speaker 1: not sorry because you your garbage now. In the document,
Speaker 1: Will claims to have invented a totally new method of
Speaker 1: spreading fake news, which he calls feeding it up the chain.
Speaker 1: He lays it out in like a really long and
Speaker 1: complex flow chart, but the whole thing boils down to
Speaker 1: lying to people about having damning stories and then hoping
Speaker 1: that you get mainstream media coverage from stoking rumors. Yeah exactly,
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Uh. It's kind of sad, but revealing in
Speaker 1: the document that wol wol is incapable of seeing anything
Speaker 1: but virality is a measure of success. I'm gonna quote
Speaker 1: from a chunk of the document. With the advent of
Speaker 1: and popularization of live streaming via Periscope, Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube,
Speaker 1: it has become possible to synthesize manipulated events that garner
Speaker 1: enormous amounts of attention. A textbook example of this tradecraft
Speaker 1: took place on November twenty nine, two eighteen, when right
Speaker 1: wing activist Laura Lomer handcuffed yourself to Twitter HQ in
Speaker 1: New York City after being banned from the site. The
Speaker 1: stunt became the number one trending topic on Twitter and
Speaker 1: resulted in hundreds of articles being published and countless minutes
Speaker 1: of cable news coverage being broadcast around the world. In
Speaker 1: a calculated move, Loomer selected New York City is the
Speaker 1: place to execute the stunt, where journalists are plentiful and
Speaker 1: able to quickly arrive at the scene to broadcast the
Speaker 1: event on Periscope and Facebook. Within fifteen minutes of handcuffing
Speaker 1: herself to the doors of the Twitter HQ, Lmur was
Speaker 1: surrounded by dozens of mainstream and alternative media journalists who
Speaker 1: are broadcasting the event, namely on periscope two hundreds of
Speaker 1: thousands of people. Within the first hour of the stunt,
Speaker 1: Laura Lumer was the number rue twinding topic on Twitter worldwide.
Speaker 1: So he sees lumurs actions at Twitter HQ is a
Speaker 1: huge success because it was popular, like the whole thing
Speaker 1: that he like, it turns him on to be like,
Speaker 1: whoa she went to a place that had so much
Speaker 1: media coverage or whatever. Also, I can't get over the
Speaker 1: fact that she described it as an activist like that
Speaker 1: that's activism now, Like oh god, But like the attention
Speaker 1: wasn't people getting angry that she had been banned and
Speaker 1: demanding that Twitter reinstate her because that didn't happen. It
Speaker 1: was just everyone laughing at her for and then moving
Speaker 1: on with their lives because it was funny. Like that's
Speaker 1: the thing, was like Jacob and that, like everything that
Speaker 1: he says in this document is something that like actual
Speaker 1: bad actors have done successfully to influence politics in America
Speaker 1: and elsewhere. The ideas aren't unworkable, they're just dumb because
Speaker 1: Jacob is dumb and can't pull any of them off
Speaker 1: and doesn't understand the difference between Laura Luomer handcuffing herself
Speaker 1: to Twitter HQ and being laughed at and the Russians
Speaker 1: mounting a campaign to artificially inflate the popularity of third
Speaker 1: party Democratic candidates like what's your fucking name? The Jill
Speaker 1: ste Yeah, in order to like draw votes away from
Speaker 1: the Democrats. Like one of those things is debatably effective.
Speaker 1: The other one is just a joke. But he doesn't see.
Speaker 1: All he sees is that they both got attention. Jill
Speaker 1: Stein got attention, Laura Luomer got attention. So that's the
Speaker 1: same thing. His mind is one dimensional. His mind is
Speaker 1: truly cannot compute complex thought. Yeah, so is gonna be fun? Um?
Speaker 1: I mean no, it's not. He's going to be the
Speaker 1: worst year of all of our lives. Is that we're saying.
Speaker 1: I'm just excited for what they're going to grift next. Right, Uh,
Speaker 1: Laura Luma is gonna to strap herself to something. I'm
Speaker 1: going to guess that Jacob Wohl where it will accuse
Speaker 1: every single Democratic candidate of sexual assault by the time
Speaker 1: the year is over, um, which should be a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. I can't wait to see who ships on
Speaker 1: whose trust? You know. Oh, I'm looking forward to who
Speaker 1: ships on whose chest. I hope we get to see
Speaker 1: Jacob Wol arrested um by the FBI for crimes. But
Speaker 1: I'm not holding my breath. Um. I think what he's
Speaker 1: done is is so laughable. It's definitely crimes. But I
Speaker 1: feel like the American justice system does not take him
Speaker 1: seriously because it's so laughable and because I mean, we're
Speaker 1: laughing at him too. But the reality is there's still
Speaker 1: crimes and he has not been faced with any type
Speaker 1: of justice or or any type of of of Like
Speaker 1: the reason why he keeps doing it is because no
Speaker 1: one is stopping him. Yeah, He's faced no consequences other
Speaker 1: than like, like, I mean, his life other than being
Speaker 1: a grifter is over. Like he at this point like
Speaker 1: there's nothing else he can ever do with himself. Jacob
Speaker 1: Wohl can't go back to college and get another job
Speaker 1: doing something legitimate, because we have hours of him being
Speaker 1: Jacob Wol. It's the same thing with Laura Lumer, where
Speaker 1: like Laura Lumer is famous right now for screaming on
Speaker 1: info Wars that her life is ruined because she's been
Speaker 1: kicked off of all social media and stuff for all
Speaker 1: these insane and racist stunts she gets up to, and
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, your life is ruined because you ruined
Speaker 1: it by yeah, by doing fucked up things to people
Speaker 1: Like It's it's like a rapist being like, well, my
Speaker 1: life is ruined now because I'm a convicted rapist, and
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, your life is ruined, but like because
Speaker 1: you're because you're raped, people like don't you shouldn't have
Speaker 1: done that, Like people, and you got caught, which is
Speaker 1: what they're they're probably because they got caught. You accused
Speaker 1: a random woman of being a terrorist repeatedly, and we're
Speaker 1: partly responsible for huge numbers of death threats being filed
Speaker 1: against her. Uh, that's libel. You can't you're not allowed
Speaker 1: to do that. You in trouble, Like this is actually
Speaker 1: an instance. Yeah, that's what's aggravated is that they don't
Speaker 1: they don't learn their lesson, and you you have to
Speaker 1: be pretty bad, is a right wing grifter these days
Speaker 1: to get banned from Twitter, Like that should tell you
Speaker 1: how bad Laura Loomer and Jacob Wool are. Like they
Speaker 1: they got banned from like Paul Watson still on fucking Twitter.
Speaker 1: The fact that they have not like that that they
Speaker 1: managed to get like forced Twitter to take action means
Speaker 1: that they were pretty egregiously violating the services rules. And
Speaker 1: in Wohl's case, he was literally bragging about breaking Twitter's
Speaker 1: rules to a journalist for a major outlet and it's like, yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: of course you get banned like that's not I mean,
Speaker 1: or be permanent forever because it's part of me. Is
Speaker 1: kind of upset because our last episode that we did,
Speaker 1: we got like pretty good attention from I feel like
Speaker 1: Jacob Wol retweeted us and like common they are the ones.
Speaker 1: Nothing they've done recently has been interesting, So I'm not
Speaker 1: going to talk about them more. But we did we
Speaker 1: did get to slam the crass and Stein's directly, which
Speaker 1: was satisfying. It was satisfying because they because they were
Speaker 1: just all over it. Yeah, but I mean, Jacob Wool
Speaker 1: and Laura Loomer, it's truly just an example of white
Speaker 1: privilege as as its worst. Because nothing happens. Like if
Speaker 1: they were any other ethnicity or or nationality or anything,
Speaker 1: they would have way more attention legally, and that's the truth,
Speaker 1: Like I oh, absolutely, without a doubt. And because they're
Speaker 1: just rich white folk, they get untouched. And that's what's infuriating,
Speaker 1: is because white for the black of a better word,
Speaker 1: like white collar crime or whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 1: It's not like, oh, just let's just say white skinned crime. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I don't even know if this counts as white collar,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not sure what kind of collar Repeatedly faking
Speaker 1: rape allegations is, Like I don't I really don't know.
Speaker 1: Like they've invented a new kind of white crime. And
Speaker 1: it's yeah, I will say. Speaking of the Krassenstein's and
Speaker 1: Jacob Wool, one of my favorite moments on Twitter last
Speaker 1: year was um Kim Clippenstein, the FOYA journalist with young
Speaker 1: Turks who like revealed that the FBI had an open
Speaker 1: investigation into Wool, got into a fight with him on Twitter,
Speaker 1: and uh, Jacob Wol mistook him from one of the
Speaker 1: Krassenstein brothers because their last names are vaguely similar. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, and so Wol was like why don't you
Speaker 1: just like get up to another grift with your brother?
Speaker 1: And Clippenstein responded, you know, the only difference between you
Speaker 1: and the Krassenstein's is their their grifts don't immediately explode
Speaker 1: in their faces. And then Brian Krassenstein responded by just
Speaker 1: saying boom, Yeah it was really good. Wow, it was
Speaker 1: one of those moments that makes Twitter worth it. So
Speaker 1: he like low key admitted to grift ing better. I
Speaker 1: think he was just too dumb to really know what
Speaker 1: was going on in the conversation and just saw that
Speaker 1: somebody had attacked someone attacking him. Like, I really don't
Speaker 1: think he understood what was being said. But Ken Clippenstein
Speaker 1: is a great follow on Twitter, so check him out.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah not he not any relations is not a
Speaker 1: completely different last name. Yeah wow. Anyway, that's the episode, Serene, Well,
Speaker 1: thank you better after the payday loan stuff. No, I'm
Speaker 1: still mad, but I'm always mad. My default is just anger. Um,
Speaker 1: thanks for having me on to revisit our our sheep
Speaker 1: in Wols clothing. He's just a dumb little sheep. He's
Speaker 1: just he's just a dumb little sheepy sheep, sheepy sheep.
Speaker 1: It's almost insulting to sheep honestly, But yeah, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: want to. I wouldn't want to tar sheep with that brush.
Speaker 1: Sheep provides so many useful things. Wool and they're kind
Speaker 1: of cute. Sheep's milk, yeah, sheep's oil. Yeah, and they're concrete.
Speaker 1: I think, genuinely, I think they are more intelligent than wol.
Speaker 1: I have never seen a sheep fuck itself over in
Speaker 1: the same fashion that Jacob Bowl has. Usually they just
Speaker 1: eat plants and mind their own fucking business, huddle together
Speaker 1: for warmth in the winter, which is a more successful
Speaker 1: strategy than Jacob Bowl has ever executed. Wow, what a
Speaker 1: ship show? Well, what a show? Get some plugables to Yeah,
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Speaker 1: listen to us. We talked about elhan Omar a lot,
Speaker 1: especially with the recent stuff that's been going on um
Speaker 1: and why everything against her is pretty much a facade
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Speaker 1: h E r o uh. Yeah, and thanks for having me, Robert.
Speaker 1: This was splendid. Even though you're not in the same
Speaker 1: room as me. I feel like we've bonded today. We
Speaker 1: have bonded today, and there's only one thing that conceal
Speaker 1: the kind of bond that is built over listening to
Speaker 1: Jacob wool stories, and that is celebratory. Sophie have grabbed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Sophie have grabbed the role of bagels. See, when you've
Speaker 1: been working together as long as Sophie and I have,
Speaker 1: you just know what the other person wants. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: yell in anger, and you throw the bagels. When I
Speaker 1: give my angry bagel throwing, I'm going to try to
Speaker 1: get the sound on on my mic. Okay, go, okay,
Speaker 1: Yeah that's a pretty perfect sound. Yeah perfect. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm so satisfied with how that went. Yeah, I'm very
Speaker 1: I'm happy. I mean not really, but you know, I'm
Speaker 1: the bagel have made me happy. Yeah, that's that's the
Speaker 1: beauty of throwing bagels. They really they really cleanse the
Speaker 1: soul's palate. They cleanse the soul's palate. Good baked, good
Speaker 1: we'll do that. You know, that's why they called baked
Speaker 1: goods because they're good. That is why they're called baked goods.
Speaker 1: They're not baked. No, No, baked bads are well actually
Speaker 1: baked bads. Or when I try to make baked goods
Speaker 1: because they usually get high and forget that, the evans on.
Speaker 1: But it is bad. That is bad. That is bad.
Speaker 1: Not a great strategy. Speaking of great strategies, I'm not
Speaker 1: making an a plug. I don't know why I use
Speaker 1: my add plug. Boys. You can find me on Twitter
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