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Speaker 1: When you can move back to your community, the best
Speaker 1: thing you can do is open a brewery, right?
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Cascadian Beer Podcast. My name's Aaron and
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Speaker 1: A few months ago in the spring, I was in
Speaker 1: Penticton attending and being part of the judges panel for
Speaker 1: the Okanagan fest of ales. While there I stopped in to
Speaker 1: say hi to some friends of the podcast who were
Speaker 1: in the process of opening their own brewery. Like many stories,
Speaker 1: I've encountered while making this podcast series. Things don't always go
Speaker 1: according to plan. The brewery had to change their name
Speaker 1: for various reasons a few days before my visit,
Speaker 1: but now they're fully open and operational. So here's my
Speaker 1: conversation with Slack water brewing.
Speaker 1: My name is Chris Vandenburg, and I am the brewmaster
Speaker 1: of Slack Water Brewing.
Speaker 2: And I am Liam Peyton, general manager and marketing manager.
Speaker 2: Four slack water
Speaker 1: brewing. So, Yeah, we're here. It is the festival's weekend.
Speaker 1: You guys aren't open yet, but we're sitting on your
Speaker 1: soon to be lovely patio. That's quite a nice day.
Speaker 1: All right, it's coming up. Nice. It was raining yesterday
Speaker 1: in all morning. Yeah, well, like I flew in for Vancouver,
Speaker 1: and we took it all from yes. Perfect
Speaker 1: love sunshine in the Okinawan. Um, so, uh, we're here, Uh,
Speaker 1: slack water.
Speaker 1: It's ah, soon to be brewery. You are gonna be
Speaker 1: brewing next week, right? That is the plan. No, no,
Speaker 1: today be the day. It is. April 11th when we're
Speaker 1: taping this. So yeah. So Tuesday. Yeah. You can hold
Speaker 1: me to it.
Speaker 2: I'll be there. Instagramming him the second he matches in.
Speaker 2: So hold us to it next Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Okay, The old burr is operational as of this week.
Speaker 1: And so I've been cleaning and fascinating. All of the
Speaker 1: tank's kind of non stop around the clock.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna apologize to listening. Is that it's made me
Speaker 1: a little bit loopy. Okay,
Speaker 1: Well, uh, for a kind of Ah, hopefully an easy
Speaker 1: question for anything. Chris, how did beer find you? That
Speaker 1: is a great question. I actually have to give credit
Speaker 1: to my partner, Cleo. Nevil. We met about 10 years ago,
Speaker 1: and she was making cider in ah, little punk house
Speaker 1: in East Van.
Speaker 1: And I gleaned some things off of her. I was
Speaker 1: working as a mental health worker on the downtown Eastside.
Speaker 1: Ah, and that job got a little stressful for me.
Speaker 1: And by then I had for aid into, uh, into wine.
Speaker 1: And beer is well, is on the homebrew scene. So
Speaker 1: I decided to pursue my other passion and
Speaker 1: ended up taking a job working in the warehouse that
Speaker 1: parallel 49 right. So the first job in the industry
Speaker 1: there and ah, did you move around? It'll in the
Speaker 1: lower mainland? Yeah. So I started in the warehouse. Ah, parallel. 49.
Speaker 1: Move my way up to working on the bottling line. Ah,
Speaker 1: and I was sort of running the bottling line. By
Speaker 1: the time I left, um
Speaker 1: wanted to move into the brewer position and postmark was hiring.
Speaker 1: So I jumped over their brood there for a few
Speaker 1: years and most recently have been it. Powell working with
Speaker 1: Dave Boquete, who's just been
Speaker 1: an absolutely amazing experience. Yeah. How about you, Liam had
Speaker 1: a beer find
Speaker 2: you? I was definitely pouring pints a few years earlier
Speaker 2: than I should have been in the UK reckoned little
Speaker 2: country pubs, and I was 16. It's a big love
Speaker 2: for old cask ales are used to work in this
Speaker 2: awesome little quaint bars that only had just big, beautiful
Speaker 2: old brick cellar's full of cask ales is awesome.
Speaker 2: Moved over here kind of continued to by attending a
Speaker 2: little bit, Um, really just kind of got in tow. B.
Speaker 2: C's offerings, rather than the big crap I was having
Speaker 2: is a little ski bum when I moved here. And
Speaker 2: then that kind of just
Speaker 2: spread a little bit. I at the opportunity to start
Speaker 2: their beer fest up in Whistler and then that kind
Speaker 2: of got me tied in with the industry bit. And
Speaker 2: then it's just kind of kept growing. And
Speaker 2: here we are
Speaker 1: starting very. And here we are in panicked and eso
Speaker 1: y Pantic in.
Speaker 2: My wife's been predicted. So, uh, the idea for the
Speaker 2: brewery came out about five years ago to him, myself
Speaker 2: and Kelsea, my now wife. She's from here. We kind
Speaker 2: of always had the derive moving back and settling here. Ultimately,
Speaker 2: we were in Whistler than Vancouver for a few years. And,
Speaker 2: you know, it's just such a nice pace of life
Speaker 2: out here. It's a lot nicer than being in the
Speaker 2: city as fun as it can be out there, but
Speaker 2: as well as, you know, opportunities for Brewery out here.
Speaker 2: That's a fantastic local breweries out here. It's nowhere near
Speaker 2: it's Saturated is on the coast, and there's a huge
Speaker 2: community vibe out here that we really, really dig
Speaker 1: because a pen and Pantic tin seems to really be
Speaker 1: growing in the beer scene. Um, heard this morning there's
Speaker 1: gonna be seven. So
Speaker 2: seven once neighborhoods up for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Um, and then just right up the road
Speaker 1: is Kelowna which also seems
Speaker 2: to be blowing up this room, is there's another one
Speaker 2: coming on the narrow minded bench. There's a couple of
Speaker 2: cider is popping up. Now it's ah, it's critical
Speaker 1: not to mention the vineyards that are already here. So
Speaker 1: funny with people asking
Speaker 1: too many breweries already
Speaker 2: is like about 140 wineries. And
Speaker 1: I have to admit that I had never been to
Speaker 1: predict it until I met Liam and Kelsey, which was
Speaker 1: about a year and 1/2 ago. And they invited me
Speaker 1: out for a couple of weekend trips to come see
Speaker 1: what was happening. And I just fell in love with
Speaker 1: it right away. And I talked to you, Cleo, my partner,
Speaker 1: and we decided that it was the right move for us.
Speaker 1: And now we are. All right.
Speaker 1: So what is the marching orders, then? For Stillwater? What
Speaker 1: do you hope to achieve here? What? Do you have
Speaker 1: a little water?
Speaker 1: Slack water. See you change the name so quick on
Speaker 1: confused lots of Chancellor. Yes. All right. So, uh, still water.
Speaker 1: What are the products
Speaker 1: you loathe? Still wanted. That's why it stuck in my head,
Speaker 1: not complaining. There we go take three. Don't see
Speaker 1: sweet.
Speaker 1: I almost did it again. Slack water.
Speaker 1: What is that? What? What do you guys up to? You? Ah,
Speaker 1: you know lets your mission statement here when it comes
Speaker 1: to beer.
Speaker 1: Well, my mission statement when it comes to beer, specifically
Speaker 1: is I love working with what's around me. It's really
Speaker 1: easy to bring ingredients in from all over the place.
Speaker 1: But like you, we have such a beautiful amount of
Speaker 1: things to work with here. I mean, we can work
Speaker 1: with wineries. We work with cider is there's all sorts
Speaker 1: of local produce, vegetation, spices. Get those Summerland sweets
Speaker 1: s o. I want to sort of keep things. I
Speaker 1: wantto kind. I hope that the Okanogan sort of develops
Speaker 1: the terroir, which is sort of interesting. So we want
Speaker 1: we're gonna be doing, you know, with every style under
Speaker 1: the sun over the next couple of years. But we
Speaker 1: want to focus on a lot of cool barrel things, too, and,
Speaker 1: you know, sours and Cezanne's that inspired by the local environment.
Speaker 1: So that's that's what I like to do in a beer.
Speaker 1: I like Thio work with what I have, and so
Speaker 1: being Ah, Mr Marketer, what's what's the concept of the branding?
Speaker 1: What is that going to look like? We're trying to
Speaker 2: keep it like fun and vibrant and kind of organic
Speaker 2: natural feel to it. We've tried to stay within our
Speaker 2: existing brand system and keep that kind of moving. That's
Speaker 2: why it was so hard to try and find a
Speaker 2: Plan B Name theory Journal was kind of inspired
Speaker 2: when I met my wife where I was extremely stressed
Speaker 2: with work, she kind of took me out back and
Speaker 2: taught me how to fly fish up in like, see
Speaker 2: the sky Country. And that was
Speaker 2: awesome, you know, that was my early members of that
Speaker 2: relationship is just going awesome places, fishing, drinking, amazing beer.
Speaker 2: And we kind of wanted toa draw that into the
Speaker 2: inspiration for what was hatchery What is now slack water brewing.
Speaker 2: But yeah, just again playoff the waterways, the rivers, the lakes,
Speaker 2: sold that kind of stuff that brought us together originally
Speaker 2: and what we like doing in our in our spare time,
Speaker 2: which is few and far between right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you guys have been renovating this place in September, right?
Speaker 1: Me and Chris have
Speaker 1: lots of fun stuff on the walls. Lots of throwing
Speaker 1: slide chambers around. All right, so we're in mid April. Now,
Speaker 1: what's the hopeful target here?
Speaker 2: We're still like our contractors, architects, us from marketing standpoints,
Speaker 2: lead time on materials, et cetera. Were looking pretty positive
Speaker 2: for the very end of May. Started June right now. Okay.
Speaker 2: What? He started gearing up hiring and, uh,
Speaker 1: and your brew in next week.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he's crust, right. And so how many taps
Speaker 1: are you expected to have there behind the bar we're
Speaker 1: gonna have? Well, we're gonna have I believe 12 taps
Speaker 1: behind the bar, at least eight of which will be
Speaker 1: our beers. And we will be bringing in cider and
Speaker 1: guest taps and things like that. So
Speaker 2: WeII do have Thea
Speaker 2: the luxury of, ah, liquor. Primary license from the previous
Speaker 2: use of this venue is Well, it used to be
Speaker 2: a nightclub. So we're working with a bunch of really
Speaker 2: cool local cider reason wineries. So I have a pretty
Speaker 2: decent wine list. Really fantastic kitchen as well, but yeah,
Speaker 2: 12 taps. We want to keep it least eight of
Speaker 2: those on ours. Nice ro. taters.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's jump back in the conversation with slack
Speaker 1: water brewing and now, and since we're in the construction phase,
Speaker 1: you haven't opened yet. Do you guys have ah, sustainability
Speaker 1: plan of flexed for, You know, just recycling and just
Speaker 1: taking care of resource is yeah, Absolutely. I mean, we
Speaker 1: have the general basic stuff we, you know, heat exchangers,
Speaker 1: repurchasing water into the hot liquor tank, things like that.
Speaker 1: We did install the trade waste interceptor, and I think
Speaker 1: we might be the only
Speaker 2: the only one in the economic right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the only brewery in the Okinawan with the trade
Speaker 1: waste interceptors that's collecting all of our solid matter out
Speaker 1: of the water system. So get separated out. We have
Speaker 1: ah team set up in Cara MEOWS Who has Ah,
Speaker 1: beautiful or sorry clean who have a beautiful organic farm on.
Speaker 1: They're going to be taking all of our grain for
Speaker 1: big compost pile and for feed for their animals, and
Speaker 1: in turn, will be hopefully getting some vegetables and meat
Speaker 1: back from them
Speaker 2: about the, uh, don't hate their bond or something with
Speaker 2: the bio heat or something from the fermentation. Noah, I
Speaker 2: think
Speaker 1: I do believe that their environmental engineers and if they're listening,
Speaker 1: I hope I get this right. But they've developed some
Speaker 1: sort of system where they can harness the heat from
Speaker 1: the compost pile, right, as it sort of rots right.
Speaker 1: That then provides heat for all of their barns and greenhouse.
Speaker 1: It's awesome. What are the beers that you're hoping to
Speaker 1: just come out with out of the gate? Well, I
Speaker 1: can tell you right now what we hope to do
Speaker 1: with the first week. You guys are, uh are tight
Speaker 1: lines lager, which is? Ah, traditional German style hellis. Okay,
Speaker 1: good that you're brewing in now. So you can let
Speaker 1: it sit for a few weeks. Yeah, it won't be
Speaker 1: ready for open. Yeah, but I will. It will be
Speaker 1: in the tank. Yeah, the open. Just Everybody knows we
Speaker 1: have our English tail pale ale, which is Ah, it's
Speaker 1: an Amarillo dry, hopped, pretty traditional Northwest style pale ale.
Speaker 1: We're doing our serenity Say's on which we had at
Speaker 1: brewski and we will have again at festival which is
Speaker 1: a French style Cezanne made with organic camomile and local honey.
Speaker 1: And we have our what? The fog, which is Northeast
Speaker 1: i p. A. Which this particular integration of it is
Speaker 1: galaxy and Citra. If anyone had it brewski, it was
Speaker 1: elder auto and Citra. Okay, well, I'm a sucker for citrus,
Speaker 1: so thank you.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll let you on a little secret Here. Put
Speaker 1: a little bit of citrus in pretty much everything. Okay? Okay,
Speaker 1: So that's That's Thea. That's the water, right? That's a lot.
Speaker 1: That's the one that doesn't everything
Speaker 1: said then on eso Citra favorite hobby, You have another
Speaker 1: favorite hot that you like using. Well, that's a great question.
Speaker 1: If I had to pick one hot to use. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's so many different kinds of hops and different styles
Speaker 1: of beer you could make with different hops. Per lei
Speaker 1: is probably like my favorite hot because it could go
Speaker 1: on all of your loggers and all your dark beers,
Speaker 1: and it's got that great spicy tone to it.
Speaker 1: But if I was gonna go for an I p A,
Speaker 1: I might Besides the track, a sitter is absolutely number one.
Speaker 1: I might go with Amarillo, but that changes probably every
Speaker 1: 1 3 to 6 months. My mind changes on that one. Right? Uh, Lee.
Speaker 1: And what beer you love most Looking forward to getting
Speaker 1: on tap. What's your go to that you hope to
Speaker 1: have here? Oh,
Speaker 2: you know what it's been so like since I creeped
Speaker 2: on Chris on Facebook and asked him if he wants
Speaker 2: to be part of this. We went through 12 18
Speaker 2: months of just
Speaker 2: Superfund Sundays, where we just throw stuff on the grill
Speaker 2: and homebrew bunch of all these crazy cool ideas and stuff.
Speaker 2: Definitely any
Speaker 2: anything hopped coming out of Chris's repertoire. Eyes like every
Speaker 2: rendition about pale ales I. P. A's New England I.
Speaker 2: P has been phenomenal, So definitely looking forward to those
Speaker 2: and go back to Chris's comments. I'm tryingto work with
Speaker 2: his Ah, like a local agri culture and terroir as well.
Speaker 2: I think both of us share big affinity for Cezanne
Speaker 2: farmhouse style beers that we really want
Speaker 2: executing our own out here because you were not on
Speaker 2: a farm. But look where we are surrounded by these
Speaker 2: beautiful orchards Vineyards like mounted like a ll this cool
Speaker 2: stuff out here that, you know, it's kind of waiting
Speaker 2: to be played with so that on DDE
Speaker 2: as mentioned earlier, holding this stuff, we are putting a
Speaker 2: cask in Jinan
Speaker 1: so awesome. I mean, you couldn't open your own place
Speaker 1: without putting one in right like it
Speaker 2: was a firm. It's happening. Yeah, Yeah. Go till the
Speaker 2: exciting part right now, getting all of our breathers and
Speaker 2: self tilting
Speaker 2: spillage and getting else forgetting glycol, racking for it to
Speaker 2: keep him going. Right? All right, we're not messing around
Speaker 2: when it comes to casting Pretty excited and hopefully,
Speaker 1: no, no bar top cast for us.
Speaker 1: You have a traditional English mile. That will be a
Speaker 1: festival as well.
Speaker 1: That's just sad.
Speaker 1: That information
Speaker 1: it was delicious.
Speaker 1: Future Erin in the Edit will tell you how great
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 1: So front, aside from a name challenge, would have been
Speaker 1: some of the greatest challenges that have come up here
Speaker 1: in this whole process of trying to open. When you
Speaker 1: take over a pre existing building, you go a little
Speaker 1: bit blind. You walk in here like here's a building.
Speaker 1: It works, you know, They had power for the night.
Speaker 1: We had running water, they had everything. And then you
Speaker 1: stars upon. You start trying to put a bird brewery
Speaker 1: in it, and you wanna throw almost that stuff out
Speaker 1: and having to rebuild everything from the ground up. So
Speaker 1: it's
Speaker 1: There was a ah literal money pit when we dug
Speaker 1: up the dance floor. I'll call the nightclub of Money,
Speaker 1: paid it, had a money play, money paid in the
Speaker 1: middle of the floor. When we took up the dance floor,
Speaker 1: we found a three foot hole that was 16 by
Speaker 1: idly by 16 or something like that.
Speaker 2: It was only four. It was probably like at least
Speaker 2: 400 square feet. I think it was the original dance floor,
Speaker 2: and they'd cut it into the concrete and then put
Speaker 2: like a triple framed for dance floor on it for, like,
Speaker 2: acoustics and give when people are dancing. And we just
Speaker 2: found that not on
Speaker 1: any of the architectural plans from the place is built
Speaker 1: like it
Speaker 2: took us a week to tell that it was horrible work.
Speaker 2: It was built never to be removed, but we can't
Speaker 2: quite put tanks on like framed floor.
Speaker 2: That was
Speaker 1: it. I mean, it's all the little things. There's so
Speaker 1: many licenses and so many permits, and Liam's with an
Speaker 1: absolute champ basically doing all the legwork on.
Speaker 2: To be honest, it's been the liquor branch in the
Speaker 2: city have been so unbelievably fantastic. That has been that
Speaker 2: I know it's a nightmare for a lot of people.
Speaker 2: It's almost been scarily too
Speaker 2: straightforward on our behalf. But then again, I do have
Speaker 2: quite a lot of experience with liquor license and stuff,
Speaker 2: So it's
Speaker 2: a little easier, I guess. But
Speaker 2: yeah, I was expecting the worst on that. 10 of
Speaker 2: the absolute best.
Speaker 1: I will wait for the end of the day. You
Speaker 1: need to fill out the form so you don't You
Speaker 1: don't get a choice, so you better make friends. All right. So, um, so,
Speaker 1: apart from past work experience, who else in the province? Ah,
Speaker 1: kind of inspires you guys too. I kind of get
Speaker 1: this brewery have been running in in terms of the
Speaker 1: styles of beer you want to. D'oh! My biggest inspiration
Speaker 1: in BC beer that I haven't worked for. It would
Speaker 1: be e in hell from strange fellows. Every beer that
Speaker 1: comes out of that place is outstanding.
Speaker 1: You
Speaker 1: Oh,
Speaker 2: God, I'm slightly by a state.
Speaker 2: Before I left Vancouver, I lived behind Main Street and
Speaker 2: brass neck and spent eight nights a week, a brass
Speaker 2: neck and I Yeah, yeah, I know you like I
Speaker 2: love all the beers that those guys making.
Speaker 2: Yes, Nigel, being a Brit to there's quite a bit
Speaker 2: of British inspirations. Some of those beards as well. So
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely a big brass neck fan.
Speaker 1: All right, Cool. And if somebody was wanting to go
Speaker 1: patting down the path of opening up a brewery themselves,
Speaker 1: what advice could you give him?
Speaker 1: Absolutely do do it. But we'll do. Do it. Um,
Speaker 1: keep
Speaker 1: okay.
Speaker 1: I don't know howto word this Just just do your research,
Speaker 1: plot out everything and plan for the worst on everything.
Speaker 1: And whatever you think it's gonna cost at, I don't know, 10%
Speaker 1: thio another 50%. Also, I would highly recommend that if
Speaker 1: you have the ability to buy a vacant lot, it's
Speaker 1: probably Chief just put up a brand new building, right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, um, as well ask
Speaker 2: like, we would be in a completely different scenario. If
Speaker 2: the amazing people
Speaker 2: hand, I
Speaker 2: don't even start listing them off because it's such a
Speaker 2: big list. But brewers and owners that have been through this,
Speaker 2: they're more than happy to just help and answer the
Speaker 2: phone or answer an email on the information and assistance
Speaker 2: and support we got was
Speaker 2: unreal. Trying to tell our shareholders how collaborative it is
Speaker 2: with people helping each other. But they didn't believe it
Speaker 2: until the in it now and they're like, Holy crap.
Speaker 2: This is a freak of an industry. Like, why does
Speaker 2: the competitive want to help you out so much? Like,
Speaker 2: that's why we're here.
Speaker 1: We've had help from quite literally, all over the country,
Speaker 1: but specifically, um, like the pen ticked in Brewer is
Speaker 1: all the other breweries in town have gone absolutely just
Speaker 1: over the top to help us out on, like, the
Speaker 1: littlest things. You know what I mean? Is it
Speaker 2: borrowed equipment from Cannery? We did. Our first batch is
Speaker 2: for a little beer festival at the ski hill. That
Speaker 2: cannery half our kitchens in storage over a bad tattoo.
Speaker 1: Bad. I do. Let me, uh, tinker with their brew
Speaker 1: host for a day because we we we bought all
Speaker 1: over tanks from Ripley Stainless, which is a local fabricator
Speaker 1: in Summerland and back Tattoo as a similar system. So
Speaker 1: they let me basically just get dirty one day for
Speaker 1: no reason.
Speaker 2: My my new favorite toy, the cask engines, a gift
Speaker 2: from by Tattoo rx. They just see Steve's a few
Speaker 2: years ago. So
Speaker 1: sweet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's outstanding. The appendix is great. I mean,
Speaker 1: brewing in East Van I was I was a little
Speaker 1: bit hesitant to leave these fantasies. Fan is such a
Speaker 1: tight community of rulers, and I came here and it's
Speaker 1: like nothing changed. Nothing skipped a beat. You know, it's
Speaker 1: it's everyone here is just a cz tight justus. Good
Speaker 1: friends
Speaker 1: help
Speaker 2: safety meetings in the week. Will the bruise get together
Speaker 2: and through the Benedictine Ale Trail Kim's We're doing an
Speaker 2: absolute phenomenal job keeping a soul up today and
Speaker 2: on track with everything together in a line that it
Speaker 2: sze pretty awesome.
Speaker 1: Right? Well, congratulations, guys. Thank you. I mean, you've made
Speaker 1: it this far, and and you're gonna brew beer next
Speaker 1: week and, uh, can't wait to come back and visit
Speaker 1: when you guys were actually open. So yeah, I hope
Speaker 1: you get the real beer.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, we're gonna have a pseudo beer this week.
Speaker 1: Really? Beer? Yes, but it's not on that fancy new system.
Speaker 1: You
Speaker 1: just can't wait to get my hands up. Thank you both.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Huge. Thank you to the team that slack water for
Speaker 1: their time. It was great seeing everybody in the construction phase,
Speaker 1: and I cannot wait to go back and visit. And
Speaker 1: since I'm future Aaron here has mentioned in the interview
Speaker 1: the beers were fantastic at festive ales.
Speaker 1: I'd really like to think the team and Pantic Tin
Speaker 1: and the Tourism Board and also the organizers of the
Speaker 1: Okanogan festive ails. It was a great time out there,
Speaker 1: and I can't wait to attend next year. I'd love
Speaker 1: to go back. So yes, Blackwater Brewing is now open
Speaker 1: and operational. I hope you get a chance to stop by.
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