Speaker 1: Oh, beat force. If it doesn't work, you're just not
Speaker 1: using enough. You're listening to software Gradio, Special Operations, military
Speaker 1: news and straight talk with the guys and the community. Hey,
Speaker 1: everybody today, I have a special guest for us, Todd Robinson.
Speaker 1: Todd is a producer, writer, and film director, and he's
Speaker 1: going to be talking about his latest movie, The Last
Speaker 1: Full Measure, which is essentially about a Medal of Honor
Speaker 1: awardy from Vietnamen Air Force pair of rescue. Amazing story.
Speaker 1: Todd and I have known each other for a long time.
Speaker 1: Actually we first met through aviation. Him and I are
Speaker 1: both pilots, so we fly with a group of military guys.
Speaker 1: They get together kind of one twice a year and
Speaker 1: it's kind of like a military fight club with airplanes.
Speaker 1: So it's a pretty cool stuff. Todd is an amazing guy.
Speaker 1: In fact, before I met him, one of my favorite
Speaker 1: movies White Squall with Jeff Bridges. I found out later
Speaker 1: it was actually written and directed by Todd as well.
Speaker 1: That that movie I found super fascinating. If you haven't
Speaker 1: watched it, I suggested it. It's an older one, but
Speaker 1: I found it very interesting because you know, I grew
Speaker 1: up on a sailboat. You know. I had a similar
Speaker 1: experience with the family on a big storm off the
Speaker 1: coast Oregon as we were sailing down from from Canada.
Speaker 1: We had a lily like shut down and and heave
Speaker 1: too with a sea anchor. For I think it was
Speaker 1: two or three days. But that movie White Squall is incredible.
Speaker 1: Todd is a good friend of mine. Todd also teaches
Speaker 1: at USC, teaches film. Just an all around a great guy.
Speaker 1: Him and I actually partnered with Mark Harmon of n
Speaker 1: c i S on a book to TV series project.
Speaker 1: So we'll get into all that soon and I hope
Speaker 1: you guys will dig it. Todd's a great guy. And
Speaker 1: here we go. All right, Hey, everybody, I got my
Speaker 1: good friend Todd Robinson on the phone, gave gave a
Speaker 1: quick intro. But Todd tell us about the movie. Well,
Speaker 1: the movie is called The Last Full Measure, as you know,
Speaker 1: and it will open on October of this year and
Speaker 1: about theaters across the country. And it has an amazing cast.
Speaker 1: And that's pretty much everything a movie a movie should have.
Speaker 1: That I was assent a lot of drama, a lot
Speaker 1: of the motion and to just to performances, and of
Speaker 1: course it's rooted in a true story that is one
Speaker 1: of the great untold stories to come out of the
Speaker 1: Vietnam War. So it's been a passion of mine for
Speaker 1: a long long time to get it to the screen,
Speaker 1: and we're finally there. Yeah. One of the things I'm
Speaker 1: excited about is I just don't think the Air Force
Speaker 1: Special off community has has gotten, you know, enough props.
Speaker 1: Like you know, the the ASTACK guys are are pretty incredible,
Speaker 1: whether it's the combat controllers or the para rescue guys.
Speaker 1: So it's just nice to see that portion of the story.
Speaker 1: I feel like the Green Bray's and the Navy Seals
Speaker 1: everybody kind of knows knows about that these days, but
Speaker 1: you know it's the Air Force, especially on the rescue side,
Speaker 1: are kind of unsung heroes. Yeah. I think if you
Speaker 1: ask any of the other people you just mentioned, anybody
Speaker 1: in Jay Sack, any of them though they all sure
Speaker 1: know who the pair rescue the pair rescue community is
Speaker 1: because they rely upon them heavily. Obviously, tjs are often
Speaker 1: embedded on the various complex teams for various missions, and
Speaker 1: part of the reason that they're not that well known,
Speaker 1: as I think at any given time. There are only
Speaker 1: around eight active pjs in the entire military, so there's
Speaker 1: not a lot of people to make noise. So again
Speaker 1: we're pleased that this film is is bringing a lot
Speaker 1: of focus and attention onto these people, because any time
Speaker 1: you hear about a bad script overseas, there's usually a
Speaker 1: PJ in the middle of it. Ya credo is the
Speaker 1: things we do that others may live and they truly
Speaker 1: live by that. And whether you're a pilot or a
Speaker 1: guy a soldier on the ground, you know that if
Speaker 1: you get into trouble, if somebody and you're on your
Speaker 1: team gets hurt, these guys are common. Like I say,
Speaker 1: they just salt all the great combat stories with their
Speaker 1: valor and their heroism. So two of my favorite actors,
Speaker 1: Samuel L. Jackson and Ed Harris are both in the movie.
Speaker 1: What was it like working with with those two? And
Speaker 1: I think you've worked with Ed Harris before if I
Speaker 1: remember I have, Yeah, Ed and I are actually pretty
Speaker 1: good personal friends. I don't say that lightly in Hollywood,
Speaker 1: but we've spent a lot of time together, our kids
Speaker 1: grow up together. Um, we played tennis together quite a bit.
Speaker 1: But Ed is one of the one of our great
Speaker 1: American institutions, and at this moment in time, you know,
Speaker 1: he's coming out in the new Top Gun movie, and
Speaker 1: he's already a meme. Great, great for me, you know,
Speaker 1: but no, Ed's a He's just an amazing actor. He's
Speaker 1: a very shy guy. You'd sort of be surprised because
Speaker 1: he has this intensity, but he's a very private person. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's very much a family man. And I just love
Speaker 1: Ed and Sam. You know, what can you say about
Speaker 1: Samuel Jackson. He's he's credited with being in the most
Speaker 1: profitable movies of all times. If you add up the
Speaker 1: box office from movies that Samuel Jackson has been in,
Speaker 1: nobody else comes close. And when you when you think
Speaker 1: of his performances over the years, they're truly iconic. And
Speaker 1: he again was like, he's another intense man, but he
Speaker 1: takes his work very seriously. He's always there. He never
Speaker 1: goes to his trailer. You know, he was always present
Speaker 1: on set, ready to go for me. And it was
Speaker 1: just a privilege to work with him. But the movie
Speaker 1: is full of crazy great talent. It stars Sebastian Stand,
Speaker 1: William hurt Is in it, Christopher Plumber is in it,
Speaker 1: Peters Fonda is that it whine as she ate she
Speaker 1: is in it. It just goes on and on. It's
Speaker 1: just an amazing cast of people. And because just give
Speaker 1: your your listeners a little insight into what the movie
Speaker 1: is about. In nineteen six and six April twelve, Charlie
Speaker 1: Company of the first Infantry Division, part of the Big
Speaker 1: Red One, was sent into a triple canopy jungle as
Speaker 1: sort of the tip of the spear on a certain
Speaker 1: destroy mission. They were going to sort of root out
Speaker 1: a battalion sized force of a real combat trained uh
Speaker 1: North Vietnamese soldiers called D eight hundred. They went in
Speaker 1: in three columns. Charlie Company was in the middle and
Speaker 1: Alfan Bravo flanked them, and the idea was to go
Speaker 1: in and make contact and then Alfhan Bravo, We're going
Speaker 1: to kind of swing around and they were going to
Speaker 1: surround them and destroy them. And what actually happened was
Speaker 1: Charlie Company made contact. And what no one knew except
Speaker 1: the North Vietnamese was that embedded in the triple canopy
Speaker 1: jungle were forced of bamboo and they were and I'm
Speaker 1: talking about the big stuff that's like eight inches around.
Speaker 1: So Charlie Company went in, they were trapped. It turned
Speaker 1: out that there were it was about a hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty four Americans up against seven hundred vietnames Viet Cong
Speaker 1: H in spider holes on the ground, bunkers and in
Speaker 1: the trees, and it was pretty much a blood bath.
Speaker 1: Charley Company took about casualties thirty five k I A
Speaker 1: s something like that, and it was it was just
Speaker 1: a really tough day. In the end, they brought artillery,
Speaker 1: one of five howitz or rounds right on top of
Speaker 1: the position and slowly, after about eighteen hours of fighting,
Speaker 1: ended up decimating the eight hundred and d. Eight hundred
Speaker 1: never came back as a useful fighting unit. But in
Speaker 1: the middle of all this carnage, there was no way
Speaker 1: to get the American soldiers out because at that time
Speaker 1: the Army didn't have winces on the helicopters, and it
Speaker 1: being a triple canopy jungle, the tallest trees were over
Speaker 1: a hundred deep tall. And so the Air Force guys,
Speaker 1: including the pj's pair of rescue you out of ben Wah,
Speaker 1: heard this come over you flash traffic over the over
Speaker 1: the radio, and they volunteered to go and they flew
Speaker 1: these funky little birds called Age thirty three came in huskies,
Speaker 1: very small helicopter's CREWEL four uh and they could accommodate
Speaker 1: two litters. I don't know how they're so small. And
Speaker 1: so what they found kind of a hole and Charlie
Speaker 1: Company had made a perimeter and at the center of
Speaker 1: that perimeter they assembled their wounded. But they were as
Speaker 1: the pjs came in and were dropping litters in. The
Speaker 1: guys on the ground didn't know how to load them,
Speaker 1: and so they were stuff and hold jungle litters in
Speaker 1: them and they couldn't get them in the helicopters. And
Speaker 1: as a mess and kicking, Barger volunteered to go down
Speaker 1: Bill Pitts and Barger call signed Pits And he was
Speaker 1: only twenty one years old. He was a veteran of
Speaker 1: over three rescue missions at that point. And so he
Speaker 1: went down on a jungle penetrator and got on the
Speaker 1: ground and saw what was going on, and he treased
Speaker 1: many many people, got many of them up into the
Speaker 1: helicopters that they had to rotating union out. One of
Speaker 1: them eventually was shot down. Eventually he had the opportunity, well,
Speaker 1: he had multiple opportunities to leave but there came a
Speaker 1: point where the fire became so intense that his CEO
Speaker 1: ordered him back up, and he waved them off and
Speaker 1: refused to go back up and stayed on the ground,
Speaker 1: collected ammunition, water, anything that could be useful, tried to
Speaker 1: help the guys their perimeter kept collapsing, and fought alongside
Speaker 1: these men that he didn't even know. And they were
Speaker 1: sort of flabbergasted by this. They looked up and saw
Speaker 1: this guy coming down in a uh An Air Force
Speaker 1: uniform with blouse, boots and the whole thing, and they
Speaker 1: just couldn't believe it, and they're like, who is this knucklehead?
Speaker 1: You know? So anyway, in the end, he was fatally killed.
Speaker 1: And what the movie is really about is that thirty
Speaker 1: two years after his death, the army guys they called
Speaker 1: it themselves mud Soldiers, realized, with the advent of the Internet,
Speaker 1: that they had put him up for the Medal of
Speaker 1: Honor in sixty six, but he had never gotten the medal.
Speaker 1: It went all the way up to the White House,
Speaker 1: it went up as a medal of honor, and it
Speaker 1: was kicked back down as an Air Force cross. So
Speaker 1: what the movie is about are these veterans thirty some
Speaker 1: odd years later coming together and enlisting the help of
Speaker 1: the young Washington bureaucrat who wants nothing to do with this,
Speaker 1: to petition Congress to look at this whole thing to
Speaker 1: see if it's worthy of consideration. And so that's really
Speaker 1: what the story is about. But we go back and forth.
Speaker 1: So Sebastian stand placed this young bureaucrat and he's interviewing
Speaker 1: these dogs of warlike Sam Bill and Ed Harris. So
Speaker 1: that's sort of the structure of the film. Oh what
Speaker 1: amazing story. I mean, it's I just think about how
Speaker 1: many of these types of stories have still yet to
Speaker 1: be told. I mean, even back to you know, since
Speaker 1: men were fighting wars, opportunity to meet a guy named
Speaker 1: John Fitch, who was a P fifty one ACE, one
Speaker 1: of the only I think one of two to shoot
Speaker 1: down a German jet in World War Two. He said
Speaker 1: he was basically the jet was coming into land with
Speaker 1: no fuel, so shot him like on their glad. But
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy ended up getting shot down, gunning
Speaker 1: down a Nazi train, spent time in a prisoner camp, escaped,
Speaker 1: went back into service, stole planes from Germany, crash landed
Speaker 1: him and you know, cross enemy lines. Then went on
Speaker 1: to become a Mercedes racing legend, like the first American
Speaker 1: on on Team Mercedes. Like just these so many of
Speaker 1: these stories out there. So I'm just glad the lost
Speaker 1: Full Measures getting pits is getting getting there do. It
Speaker 1: was a tough row to hope for me. I learned
Speaker 1: about this story working on another project related to the
Speaker 1: Air Force in nineteen nine when this was going through Congress,
Speaker 1: and it took me twenty years to get it made.
Speaker 1: So you know, I would get it set up, it
Speaker 1: was fall apart. I'd get it set up, it would
Speaker 1: fall apart. But war movies are difficult, you know, especially
Speaker 1: like a Yeah you think now and beating On you know,
Speaker 1: ended almost fifty years ago, and you can't I mean,
Speaker 1: there aren't even very many healings left, you know, let
Speaker 1: alone the vehicles and the wardrobe and the weapons and
Speaker 1: all those things that it's difficult to pull them together.
Speaker 1: And in our case, I really wanted to be in
Speaker 1: a pilot like you. I really wanted to fly in
Speaker 1: to be real, and they were trying to talk me
Speaker 1: into doing CG helicopters, and I just thought, you know,
Speaker 1: if an audience, especially a military audience, even sniffs that
Speaker 1: that's not real. Um, they're they're gonna, it's gonna take
Speaker 1: them out of the movie. You know. So we were
Speaker 1: in Thailand, you know, it was a mini version of
Speaker 1: Apocalypse now where we were dealing the Thai Air Force
Speaker 1: and those guys don't want to apply. If it's raining,
Speaker 1: they don't want to apply. At at stark, they don't
Speaker 1: apply if it's cold, at it's hot. So I had
Speaker 1: to do all the all the flying sequences in two
Speaker 1: days and it had originally been planned for like ten.
Speaker 1: So anyway, how do you get the helicopters, like were
Speaker 1: they they still flying Huees and in that specific helicopter
Speaker 1: that that you mentioned the air force guys are in well,
Speaker 1: but yeah, the Husky Unfortunately, there's there's one museum quality
Speaker 1: variant of it up in the Pacific Northwest and logging
Speaker 1: companies still use them. It's a twin rotor, no tail
Speaker 1: rotor with really tremendous listing power. Because they used to
Speaker 1: lift big tanks of home to drop them on burning airplanes.
Speaker 1: There was just no way I could get those birds
Speaker 1: over the Thailand. So Hi Air Force is now going
Speaker 1: to black Hawks at Hawks, but they still had a
Speaker 1: couple of helies left. And so this is a funny
Speaker 1: aside that the movie company's insurance company, so that we
Speaker 1: had to go find the most experienced pilots for those shoies. Well,
Speaker 1: those guys are all kernels and stuff who hadn't flown
Speaker 1: They had the time that they hadn't flown these birds
Speaker 1: in you know, twenty years, so they were all sort
Speaker 1: of terrified to fly them. You know. So anyway, it
Speaker 1: was it was a little bit of a circus. The
Speaker 1: last thing I'll ask you and I'll let you go,
Speaker 1: And I know you want to talk about the charity
Speaker 1: charity as well, so we'll get into that. But the
Speaker 1: last thing movie related. What was one of your most
Speaker 1: memorable experiences making the movie? Well, you know, there are
Speaker 1: many many, but the reason that I'm really in the
Speaker 1: movie businesses is because I love to explore texts through acting.
Speaker 1: And when you get a chance to work for me,
Speaker 1: this was, you know, just a bucket list of actors
Speaker 1: to work with. They're all my heroes. I think we
Speaker 1: have four or five Academy Awards, who represented numerous Golden
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just a total platinum cast. But there's
Speaker 1: a scene in front of the Vietnam War Memorial in particular,
Speaker 1: where we're in hurt sort of has a Catharsis with
Speaker 1: with the beastive stand and it is actingly gets no
Speaker 1: better than this, and it's it's just gut wrenching to
Speaker 1: watch and yet moving and powerful and to watch Bill
Speaker 1: do that. We actually had some veterans on set who
Speaker 1: we had to check those guys because they became so
Speaker 1: personally wrapped up in what William was doing. We had
Speaker 1: to make sure that we weren't triggering them, you know.
Speaker 1: So so that was a pretty amazing day of work. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm just glad there are still filmmakers like yourself that
Speaker 1: that take the technical stuff seriously, because you know, with
Speaker 1: my background, and I was actually a search and rescue
Speaker 1: swimer before I was a seal, so I mean, I've
Speaker 1: been lowered down in a forest penetrator, so I get it.
Speaker 1: But it tough for me to watch many movies because,
Speaker 1: especially in that kind of action genre, because there's no
Speaker 1: attention to details. So I know, guys like myself and
Speaker 1: others who appreciate the tension of detail will appreciate that
Speaker 1: in the movie. For sure, we did make some mistakes.
Speaker 1: See if you're listeners can find the shot where there's
Speaker 1: a guy with stripes on his arms and epaulets on
Speaker 1: his epaulets on the shoulders. That was a good one.
Speaker 1: They screwed up a folded flag which really made me crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean, you know, happens. It happens, right, But
Speaker 1: but no, you know, I always feel that for me,
Speaker 1: this movie is really a love letter to all veterans
Speaker 1: and their families, but in particular um to the guys
Speaker 1: who gets was really about, many of whom are still alive.
Speaker 1: And I just they're my first primary audience and I
Speaker 1: want to make sure that they don't walk away going well,
Speaker 1: that guy was like, you know, a knucklehead. I wanted.
Speaker 1: I I care about what they care about, so those
Speaker 1: details were important to me. That's good And first person
Speaker 1: to correctly email us in at radio at software dot com.
Speaker 1: I'll give you a free crate if you get the
Speaker 1: time stamp first for for the uniform. And I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm a huge Game of Thrones fan and I don't know,
Speaker 1: I didn't even catch that. I guess there was a
Speaker 1: Starbucks coffee cup in one of the last last episodes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that stuff happened a long time. Yeah, as I can think.
Speaker 1: It was like, Man, I'm into that show, but who
Speaker 1: is that into it to kind of like watch with
Speaker 1: that level of detail? It's pretty crazy. Charge Starbucks Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they got some good good press, probably some of the
Speaker 1: only only good press they've gotten recently. So tell us
Speaker 1: about the nonprofit. So I still on the board of
Speaker 1: a nonprofit called Stable Warrior. For any of your listeners
Speaker 1: out there, Um, this is a war deep sucks group.
Speaker 1: We put together essentially a five and a half they
Speaker 1: would treat it's veteran lead, and we put about twelve
Speaker 1: guys through it at a time. We all also do
Speaker 1: women's cow boards, but this is all to deal with
Speaker 1: suicidal ideation and it's extremely effective. It's non traditional. I've
Speaker 1: been through it myself. I'm not a veteran, I'm not
Speaker 1: a military person, but as a witness, I went through
Speaker 1: it and it really changed my life. And by the
Speaker 1: end of the year, we'll have put close to a
Speaker 1: thousand guys through it and we've only lost three. And
Speaker 1: so when you look at at twenty one a day
Speaker 1: or twenty two a day that we're losing we're doing
Speaker 1: very very well. So it's anybody out there, if you
Speaker 1: know somebody who's in trouble or you need for a
Speaker 1: little guidance. Um, this is a great group. There's nothing
Speaker 1: woo or you know, spooky about it. It's just getting
Speaker 1: into the hard work, you know, taking that that war
Speaker 1: story and telling it one last time because it doesn't
Speaker 1: really sure of us anymore. And if you would like
Speaker 1: to get involved with it, or just take a look
Speaker 1: at the web page, it's stable warrior dot org. There's
Speaker 1: video on it and so forth. And and veterans pay
Speaker 1: nothing for this. It's a d percent paid for If
Speaker 1: you want to come, we'll get you there and it's
Speaker 1: five and a half days and it'll change your life.
Speaker 1: Thank you for letting me pitch that a little bit.
Speaker 1: And and it's oddly Brandon, it's it's a linked to
Speaker 1: the movie because the veterans in the movie are all
Speaker 1: dealing with this ideation, with the guilt and the shame
Speaker 1: and I mean that come with having that a warrior,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean it's tough, man. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: in a pretty good spot now, but recently I just
Speaker 1: had an interaction with the v A and and imagine
Speaker 1: like there I go into re do my my disability
Speaker 1: classification and they just they don't even reach out to
Speaker 1: ask me like what day and time were for a
Speaker 1: medical appointment. They schedule me four appointments and this is
Speaker 1: I'm on the third generation of this. They just schedule
Speaker 1: it whenever they want for this time, and if you miss,
Speaker 1: they just deny your deny your application. And it's just crazy.
Speaker 1: Like I had four appointments scheduled and one day, one
Speaker 1: of them clear across the town, you know, out east
Speaker 1: of JFK one in Brooklyn. I mean, it's just it's maddening,
Speaker 1: and I mean I can deal with it, but I
Speaker 1: just as I can think about when that's the kind
Speaker 1: of thing happens with the VA and they're just like
Speaker 1: they think like people don't have a life, Like I
Speaker 1: don't have a job Monday through Friday, and alls I
Speaker 1: can think about is the guys that are really men
Speaker 1: and women who really need help and are suffering are
Speaker 1: just put into that meat grinder v A bureau bureaucratic
Speaker 1: system and they're just you know, it's unfortunately the v A.
Speaker 1: There's a ton of great people at the v A.
Speaker 1: Problem is they're just they're in this bureaucratic environment that
Speaker 1: just does not do much good for the for the
Speaker 1: really needful people. And so I'm just grateful that there's
Speaker 1: you know, people like you out there who are helping nonprofits.
Speaker 1: And I mean it's the one great thing about America's
Speaker 1: we can kind of just get it done ourselves sometimes.
Speaker 1: Um So, so I appreciate that. Thank you. The v
Speaker 1: A is I think it's I think the budgets, it's
Speaker 1: trillion dollars. It's an aircraft carrier, you know, trying to
Speaker 1: turn around in a bathtub, and they just it's just
Speaker 1: very difficult to be to work small when you're so big.
Speaker 1: And you know, we're touring this movie all over the country,
Speaker 1: the military basis everywhere. That's why I'm here in Columbus today.
Speaker 1: We're actually I'm I'm screening at tonight for Stable Warrior
Speaker 1: and we're having an alumni weekend. But I'm going to
Speaker 1: military basis all over the country, and I hear the
Speaker 1: frustration about the v A over and over and over again.
Speaker 1: And it's not only by the veterans themselves. It's about
Speaker 1: their from their wives and their kids who also have
Speaker 1: to lion the d a. So you know, we're pulling
Speaker 1: for the vo but in the meantime we're trying to
Speaker 1: create interventions of our own that are more direct immediate.
Speaker 1: So yeah, if there's anybody out there favored Sable Warrior
Speaker 1: dot org and we will take it care of you.
Speaker 1: That's great. And we'll put the link both to the
Speaker 1: movie trailer and sav a Warrior dot Org in the
Speaker 1: show notes. So if anybody wants to find out more
Speaker 1: about the movie, because are all of our websites and
Speaker 1: everything aren't quite do't yet, you can go to the
Speaker 1: Last Full Measure road Show on Facebook. You can go
Speaker 1: to Todd Robinson at Instagram. Well, you can also go
Speaker 1: to my web page, which is Todd Robinson's film dot
Speaker 1: com and tell everything's really up and running. You can
Speaker 1: get the latest information there. Awesome. Yeah, we'll make sure
Speaker 1: we post all that in the show notes and we'll
Speaker 1: put it on our on our social pages as well.
Speaker 1: All right, brother, fly safe. I'm sorry I won't see
Speaker 1: you at bones Fest this year, but I will be
Speaker 1: there in the spring, and I'm sad I'm gonna miss
Speaker 1: you and the guys, but in safe, safe flight back
Speaker 1: and look forward to see in the movie on the
Speaker 1: October and we'll be be sure to uh blasted out
Speaker 1: all over our sites. Fantastic, thank you, my plan. I
Speaker 1: appreciate it, alright, Todd, I have a good one brother, alright.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I hope you guys enjoyed that. Todd's a
Speaker 1: great guy. His call signs actually Sandy. Sometimes. One of
Speaker 1: these days I'll tell you guys that story. That's savor
Speaker 1: word dot org. What a what a great thing. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, if I was president for a day, I
Speaker 1: probably would scrap to be a I just make it
Speaker 1: process claims an award like benefits. But that place to
Speaker 1: just get scrapped and put into h private healthcare. The
Speaker 1: vets to just go into the private healthcare system. But
Speaker 1: that's a that's a conversation for another day. The one
Speaker 1: thing I wanted to cover real quick before we sign off. Look,
Speaker 1: last last show was short, Um kind of let you
Speaker 1: guys know about the Jack's departure. A lot of you
Speaker 1: guys have written in either to the the show email
Speaker 1: or hit me up on on my social pages, you know,
Speaker 1: just kind of talking about Jack. And you know, I
Speaker 1: know he's posted if you post this personal social and
Speaker 1: not necessarily the most positive stuff, which is unfortunate. You know, Jack,
Speaker 1: Jack's an amazing writer. You know, I'd like to think,
Speaker 1: you know, we've done done right by Jack over the years.
Speaker 1: You know, I remember, you know, him and I first
Speaker 1: started writing for software dot com back in the day.
Speaker 1: You know, when he graduated Columbia, we were able to
Speaker 1: to kind of give him a job that was a
Speaker 1: work from home job where he was making just under
Speaker 1: a hundred thousand a year on his own schedule, kind
Speaker 1: of doing his own thing. And it's just unfortunate, you know,
Speaker 1: he's closing what was an open door. Always. I would
Speaker 1: have always welcomed him back. It's unfortunate guys do that,
Speaker 1: and they they kind of shut the or And I think, really,
Speaker 1: you know, I've always tried to be a pretty positive person,
Speaker 1: and I just take you know, exercise the golden rule
Speaker 1: and always take the high road. I just think that's
Speaker 1: the best thing to do. You know. I think you
Speaker 1: can really judge a person on how they behave in
Speaker 1: both the good times and the bad. So, you know,
Speaker 1: those of you that kind of wrote in wondering what's
Speaker 1: going on, I mean, that's that's that's all I really
Speaker 1: got to say about that. And I do wish Jack
Speaker 1: the best, and it's just unfortunate. Like I said, we
Speaker 1: we had a couple of good years together, supported his book.
Speaker 1: We actually the company bought copies of his book to
Speaker 1: put in the Craig Club as well, So just in
Speaker 1: addition all that advertising supports just unfortunate. But it is
Speaker 1: what it is. I wish Jack the best. And you know,
Speaker 1: as we can say, is the guys and I at
Speaker 1: the site will continue to push on. We've got some
Speaker 1: great writers on all different websites, and like I said
Speaker 1: last show, we're in the process of kind of consolidating
Speaker 1: all of our content into one supersite um and I
Speaker 1: do have to give Nick cough and credit. He brought
Speaker 1: this up in January. He's like, why don't we just
Speaker 1: bring it all under one house, And it just kind
Speaker 1: of took a took a while for me to wrap
Speaker 1: my head around it, and then eventually after a few meetings,
Speaker 1: we just decided this was the best best thing for
Speaker 1: the for the company is just to bring it all
Speaker 1: under one site. So we'll we'll share that with you
Speaker 1: guys when we get it finished. We look, we think
Speaker 1: we'll be done with the build out by in the
Speaker 1: September early October. Like I said, I think the features
Speaker 1: some of the old things that we used to have
Speaker 1: back in the day for those of you guys remember
Speaker 1: the kind of soft Reap mafia and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I think you guys will be really surprised and happy
Speaker 1: with with some of the changes we're about to make
Speaker 1: and appreciate all the support. So again, you can follow
Speaker 1: me on Instagram where I'm most active, just at Brandon
Speaker 1: t Web. You can write in soft rep Radio at
Speaker 1: soft rep dot com and happy to answer any questions
Speaker 1: over d M, at my Instagram or through the email.
Speaker 1: I'm headed on a family vacation for a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks and we'll probably may do the show remote. Probably
Speaker 1: Nick and the guys are gonna be subbing in for
Speaker 1: most of August, so but I'll be back. I look
Speaker 1: forward to more great episodes software radio. So thanks for
Speaker 1: the support and we'll see you guys seeing out here.
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