Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast have been tweeting weird lately.
Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast,
Speaker 1: presented by Sirius XM. My name is Dan Hansas, and
Speaker 1: I have joined in a room that is just loaded
Speaker 1: filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthal.
Speaker 1: What's up boys, Hey, Dan Friday Show. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: first of all, the Friday Show is designated to start
Speaker 1: at eleven a m. Pacific time, California clock, and it
Speaker 1: is eleven forty and we're just getting going. Well, we
Speaker 1: pushed the back in West West. You know, West organized
Speaker 1: a critical doctor's appointment for himself at around one fifteen
Speaker 1: in Beverly Hills. He will not be making it. I
Speaker 1: promise you he will not get there. You walk in
Speaker 1: the depressing little magazines on those tables, which are the
Speaker 1: most depressing thing, the little magazines, and I mean you
Speaker 1: could be no time to read those. You could be
Speaker 1: all agro and angry about it, or you could recognize
Speaker 1: that in the history of six years of this shows,
Speaker 1: we've had a lot of you know, fifteen minute, twenty
Speaker 1: minute chit chats before the show that just like we're
Speaker 1: totally wasting time. I think this is the best one
Speaker 1: we've ever had. I'm all four but directions. I thought
Speaker 1: we were going to start twenty minutes ago, and it
Speaker 1: just well they were. It was ten or eleven topics
Speaker 1: that you chose to talk about, Corex. So I understand
Speaker 1: why you liked the conversation. But what if we were
Speaker 1: to table the chit chat for after and it would
Speaker 1: be volunteering. You could stay or you leave and get
Speaker 1: on with your day. You know it's before And I'll
Speaker 1: say this that we've been working together for years now
Speaker 1: and our jobs have evolved in that time, and we
Speaker 1: used to sit together every day, you know, five six
Speaker 1: days a week, eight hours a day, sit together. Hey,
Speaker 1: that's the show right there. Just put a microphone downstairs.
Speaker 1: That's the podcast there, and you got your show, um,
Speaker 1: and we've done with it. But that doesn't happen as
Speaker 1: much anymore. And I do know, um the habits of
Speaker 1: the room that once the show is over, it's a
Speaker 1: cloud of dust and everyone's gone. So the only time
Speaker 1: I could keep you here Mark and have you in
Speaker 1: a conversation is when you're basically a hostage and you
Speaker 1: have to be here talking to him that's that You're
Speaker 1: not wrong, But I will say I am. My concern
Speaker 1: is around West is uh you know health. I mean
Speaker 1: you are, though you're diving in at certain points you
Speaker 1: were asking about the decor of West is uh well,
Speaker 1: totally facetiously to continue my Mike, I kept saying, please,
Speaker 1: can we move along proof of that? Can we move
Speaker 1: along now? Because we do have a lot to get
Speaker 1: to and West does have to get to the author
Speaker 1: don they'll they'll survive if I'm a few minutes later,
Speaker 1: didn't seem like it was a cancer appointment. He's like
Speaker 1: he has a really really important I'm just picking up
Speaker 1: retainers from its dental health matters. Um, very important dental health.
Speaker 1: Do not ignore your teeth. There was a poster in
Speaker 1: my old dentist office one as a kid, ignore your
Speaker 1: teeth and they'll go away, all right? Coming up on
Speaker 1: today's show, Yes, the preseason kicked off in Earnest on
Speaker 1: Thursday night. A bunch of games. How many games we
Speaker 1: have healthy? Uh, So we'll take a quick spin around
Speaker 1: the league. We're not gonna dig into a game by game.
Speaker 1: I will be letting you know where we are in
Speaker 1: the standings. But well, some general takeaways from the action
Speaker 1: on Thursday. Also, UH, something we did last summer. We're
Speaker 1: bringing it back because you know how it is, You
Speaker 1: know how it is with our show that in any show,
Speaker 1: really the NFL has haves and have nots in terms
Speaker 1: of what teams move the needle, what teams are fun
Speaker 1: to talk about, What teams maybe would be fun to
Speaker 1: talk about if they got more love, but they tend
Speaker 1: not to. So that's why, UM, we are bringing back
Speaker 1: the segment what you people don't know about teams? No
Speaker 1: one is talking about dot dot dot or maybe it's
Speaker 1: just us. Maybe people are talking about these teams, but
Speaker 1: not in this studio. You people should know that you
Speaker 1: really get a kick out of this segment. I enjoyed.
Speaker 1: In fact, I will be moderating this segment, uh, to
Speaker 1: make sure that none of the teams and we'll get
Speaker 1: to this a little bit later that had come up
Speaker 1: often on the show, and we have a group of
Speaker 1: fourteen um will be mentioned once during that segment. This
Speaker 1: was needed. We tend to go into ruts around June
Speaker 1: and July where we only talk about half the league
Speaker 1: and ignore the other half the league. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: study that other half of the league and how many
Speaker 1: other podcasts out there have the self awareness to even
Speaker 1: do a segment like this? Think about that? Yeah? Um,
Speaker 1: but before that, let's do some news. What we're hearing
Speaker 1: presented by Sirius XM hit it Ricky from Elliott Fry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a standing ovation for a pretseason field goal. It's important,
Speaker 1: it's continued from the excitement for the Bears kicker in
Speaker 1: this competition. How about that, Elliott Fry, he can't make
Speaker 1: this stuff up. As seconds are ticking off the clock
Speaker 1: in the Bears Panthers preseason opener, Uh, they spiked the
Speaker 1: ball forty three yard field goal and guess what actually
Speaker 1: didn't spike the ball? Clock's running. Ron Rivera, the opposing
Speaker 1: coach calls time out, and he wasn't doing it to
Speaker 1: be a jerk. He was trying to help the Bears
Speaker 1: because everybody knows Matt Neige is obsessed with the forty
Speaker 1: three yard going back to the double doing in the
Speaker 1: playoffs and John Fox, Ron Rivera said, you know what,
Speaker 1: it's funny. I did that to help the Bears because
Speaker 1: they are in a kicking contest. Rivera said, via ESPN
Speaker 1: dot com, how about that? What a cooperative coach. He
Speaker 1: is an opposing coach to do that for matt Ni riverboats,
Speaker 1: a good man Neggie taking the opposite of approach like
Speaker 1: Sean Payton and the Saints. They don't even mention what's
Speaker 1: happened the last couple of years. They just moved right on.
Speaker 1: Naggi is just thinks that obsessing about it is what
Speaker 1: happens if small Fry this is that kick? Yes, what
Speaker 1: if he double doings that kick? Does Nagie just run
Speaker 1: off into the wilderness and we never see him again?
Speaker 1: Or you know, he he just jumps in the ocean
Speaker 1: and just go swimming until he disappears. We're kind of
Speaker 1: an event, I think with Niggi. All right, let us
Speaker 1: start the news with Antonio Brown and uh soap opera
Speaker 1: that is exploding in Oakland, just at a time when
Speaker 1: all the cameras there for are there for hard knocks.
Speaker 1: We'll start here. We'll start the story with the report
Speaker 1: uh from Chase Williams of w p x I and
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh who put it out there that Brown had gone
Speaker 1: quote radio silent and that the raiders had quote no
Speaker 1: clue where Brown is or the status of his injured
Speaker 1: foot and of course we talked about it. The frost
Speaker 1: bitten feet from the cryogenic chamber that has hindered him
Speaker 1: and kept him out of amost all of training camp.
Speaker 1: So there has been a disconnect with Brown and the Raiders.
Speaker 1: He is getting treatment on his own um and now
Speaker 1: more now so. Michael Gelkin of the Las Vegas Review
Speaker 1: Journal reports that Brown is expected to rejoin the Raiders
Speaker 1: quote in the near future, which is good news. But
Speaker 1: then Mike Silver own Mike Silver drops a silver bomb, like,
Speaker 1: woa bomb. We need some type of silver bomb thing.
Speaker 1: A twenty part thread. Now you you could ask, hey, Mike,
Speaker 1: why didn't you just use like the open up a
Speaker 1: document and write all this stuff and send out one tweet.
Speaker 1: I would imagine maybe there's a social media reason viral
Speaker 1: lead to have it's paying off as I look at
Speaker 1: it live tweets. So there it is a twenty part
Speaker 1: thread that gets more into what is going on between
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown and the Raiders behind the scenes and Greg.
Speaker 1: This is all over the place, but in the short
Speaker 1: of it is is that yes, he has this foot
Speaker 1: issue going on, but there's more behind the scenes, including
Speaker 1: issue with the NFL's updated helmet safety rules that has
Speaker 1: caused a major havoc behind the scenes. Let's start there.
Speaker 1: What are you seeing in the silver thread? Well, Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown is upset about the NFL's enforcement of helmet regulations. Basically,
Speaker 1: they have taken helmets, which have been tested to be
Speaker 1: less safe and provide uh less protection against concussions out
Speaker 1: of the mix. This has been a multi year process.
Speaker 1: They had kind of a year last year where players
Speaker 1: could still wear some of the helmets that were towards
Speaker 1: the bottom of their unsafe, but they had to get
Speaker 1: out of it. Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady were some of
Speaker 1: these players that were still wearing the old helmets. Once
Speaker 1: he got to this offseason, you're no longer allowed to
Speaker 1: wear the helmet, And apparently that kick started a offseason
Speaker 1: saga which is hilarious in its details of Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: going crazy about these helmets, to the point where Adam
Speaker 1: Schefter says the helmet issue is more of the reason
Speaker 1: why he's away from the team right the earlier in
Speaker 1: the off season program, he stormed off the complex so
Speaker 1: angry about the rules with the new helmets, and he
Speaker 1: is repeatedly ironic because the NFL p A completely supports
Speaker 1: this the it's the NFL actually proactively paying lots of
Speaker 1: money for research to try to save the players is
Speaker 1: brains essentially, you know, all the things that the players
Speaker 1: have really been complaining that about for years, but he
Speaker 1: is upset about. There is one detail in here, and
Speaker 1: it's number thirteen on on Silver's twenty tweet description here
Speaker 1: that that Antonio Brown went to the extent to at
Speaker 1: one point take the field with his old helmet, his
Speaker 1: preferred helmet which he had since had repainted with colors
Speaker 1: approximating but not completely mimicking the Raiders silver and black design.
Speaker 1: He went out of his way to hire someone I'm
Speaker 1: imagining to get the right silver and black color tones
Speaker 1: and it didn't quite look right. Or is this who knows,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe abs taking advantage of the what's legaland
Speaker 1: California and you know, having a day with his kids
Speaker 1: and you know, and with an ipatch, and this is
Speaker 1: uh that was I guess the high point or low
Speaker 1: point of him trying to get this uh now illegal
Speaker 1: helmet on the field. But this has been going on
Speaker 1: before he heard his feet through O T A S
Speaker 1: and practices where he kept on trying to get on
Speaker 1: the field with the helmet, and the Raiders kept on
Speaker 1: telling you you have to take it off, and he
Speaker 1: would say he was going to follow the rules, but
Speaker 1: try to try to beat it. But then there's even
Speaker 1: more even behind helmet Gate, that he's um struggling to
Speaker 1: get to meetings on time. He appears quote unfocused in
Speaker 1: them according to Mike Silver. According to witnesses, is a
Speaker 1: tweet number nineteen in the thread. Uh. Typically, Brown glances
Speaker 1: at the screens of several tablets and his smartphone during meetings,
Speaker 1: distracting himself by engaging in activities which include perusing his
Speaker 1: bank accounts and quote liking photos on Instagram. Still, one
Speaker 1: source says, the meeting thing isn't that bad, but the feet,
Speaker 1: helmet and going dark is an issue. Your damn rights
Speaker 1: an issue. And we we knew the honeymoon was not
Speaker 1: gonna last between Antonio Brown and John Gruden, and maybe
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown and anyone in organized professional football. But this
Speaker 1: thing has a potential to krenn into a total avalanche
Speaker 1: of poop here And and I you know, is he
Speaker 1: on the field, is he a member of the Raiders
Speaker 1: when they become the Vegas Raiders? Is how long is
Speaker 1: this gonna last this marriage because it is off to
Speaker 1: a rollicking start. Well, as you might imagine, Raiders coaches
Speaker 1: and players are talking about this amongst themselves, and according
Speaker 1: to Silver, one of the coaches said, it was quote
Speaker 1: honestly the most insane thing I have ever heard. I
Speaker 1: don't know why it's so important to him. It doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense. I would say, you dig your due diligence
Speaker 1: on this guy, and you found the insanity in his past.
Speaker 1: This guy is playing a team sport and he sent
Speaker 1: a figurative middle figure to the fans. The coaches and
Speaker 1: players are the Pittsburgh's Dealers. Steelers are laughing their asses
Speaker 1: off right now. I mean, it's important to note that
Speaker 1: the this helmet guideline is affecting hundreds and hundreds and
Speaker 1: hundreds of players who were equally passionate about their equipment
Speaker 1: and have a fondness for a certain type of helmet.
Speaker 1: It had to switch. And this one person is the
Speaker 1: one responding this way difficulty that tons of others are
Speaker 1: dealing with two and adjusting to. And it's you stand
Speaker 1: out with that type of behavior, and the questions rise
Speaker 1: up about Antonio Brown, and you know it's I guess
Speaker 1: for us, it's delightful because we get to watch all
Speaker 1: this unfold on Hard Knocks, But it was a year
Speaker 1: ago that we were working with someone like Mike Mayock
Speaker 1: who has to be going nuts that this is taking
Speaker 1: place on a public stage, or Grooden that he has
Speaker 1: to deal with this, and they already didn't answer questions
Speaker 1: about the frost bite, but already of it informs some
Speaker 1: of the frustration that we saw from Grooden even on
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks about the feet, because that seemed like almost
Speaker 1: a very frustrating story but almost annoying, and it wasn't.
Speaker 1: But this kind of informs maybe why they've been getting
Speaker 1: so frustrated. And it's fascinating because he's the He's the
Speaker 1: best receiver that I've that I think i've covered, and
Speaker 1: you know, since I've been covering the league, is Antonio Brown?
Speaker 1: Like that's that's the reason we're talking about it is
Speaker 1: because he's one of the all time grades and we're
Speaker 1: not none of us are informed enough, and nobody following
Speaker 1: the NFL unless you really know the man, are informed enough.
Speaker 1: But I wonder if he's okay mentally, Like he just
Speaker 1: seems to be completely out there and is it is
Speaker 1: he able to really get along with anyone or is
Speaker 1: it is it to the point where he just exists
Speaker 1: on planet Antonio and there's weird stuff is always gonna
Speaker 1: be following him around now his his career gotten to
Speaker 1: that point despite being a fantastic talent. We talked about
Speaker 1: it on Wednesday. Greg in the one practice we did
Speaker 1: see in that Hard Knocks premiere, he just blew everyone
Speaker 1: off the field. He's that good. He's a super duper star.
Speaker 1: He's gonna wear the jacket and canton. But I just
Speaker 1: wonder where he's at mentally and whether he can really
Speaker 1: function on a team in twenty and beyond. That's next
Speaker 1: time he'll be allowed to wear that helmet. I'll just
Speaker 1: put it on for his speech A can. He loves
Speaker 1: it so much. I want to be sitting at home
Speaker 1: right now where everydy is wearing the helmet, just watching
Speaker 1: like Netflix. I know for me personally, like I stay
Speaker 1: away from looking at my bank account. There's nothing about it.
Speaker 1: Check It's like, hey four figures here, guys, that would
Speaker 1: be an awesome move though, just like leave it open
Speaker 1: and it has like four twelve dollars and it like
Speaker 1: what take a look. What all right, Let's let's move
Speaker 1: on to the news. Yes, a fascinating situation unfolding in Oakland.
Speaker 1: Moving on Cleveland Brown's news, Duke Johnson no longer connected
Speaker 1: to the Brownies. He gets his wish traded away from
Speaker 1: the team to the Houston Texans. Brown's announced it on Thursday.
Speaker 1: Tom pel Sero event if I'll Network reported Houston will
Speaker 1: send Cleveland a fourth round pick in the draft that
Speaker 1: can become a third rounder if Johnson is active for
Speaker 1: ten games, so pretty good chances becomes a third round
Speaker 1: pick going back to Cleveland. Um, we all know that
Speaker 1: this was kind of a controversy around the Browns at
Speaker 1: Duke Johnson unhappy with his role in the team. Kareem
Speaker 1: Hunt comes aboard. He's kind of number three in line
Speaker 1: in that UM depth chart. Wanted out. Didn't seem like
Speaker 1: it was gonna happen. Well it does. He's out of
Speaker 1: town and he joins the Texans team that really needed
Speaker 1: an upgrade in the backfield with Lamar Miller, who as
Speaker 1: much as I once loved him as an underwhelming h
Speaker 1: three down back, now you have a great receiving running
Speaker 1: back back. There makes a lot of sense. For them,
Speaker 1: but the cost West is a little high. I thought
Speaker 1: they paid them for a team with many roster needs,
Speaker 1: not just this year, but going forward they have many
Speaker 1: roster needs. UH. He feels exactly what their backfield UH needs.
Speaker 1: They need a passing down compliment to Lamar Miller, I
Speaker 1: just wonder what a team with a GM allowed the
Speaker 1: coach to fulfill this wish. It's a good question here
Speaker 1: is I think it's worth noting he has two years
Speaker 1: left on his contracts, it's not just this year, and
Speaker 1: at what I think is a very affordable contract, so
Speaker 1: you're getting a good deal. I don't I don't hate it.
Speaker 1: It definitely makes their team significantly better this year like
Speaker 1: they needed. They needed it, and I I've always thought
Speaker 1: Duke Johnson could handle more than that. He doesn't. Even
Speaker 1: if he doesn't, he's just one of the best passing
Speaker 1: down backs since he's been drafted, and he's not missed
Speaker 1: a game in his career. He's he's certainly not been
Speaker 1: a star for Cleveland because I think he's no one's
Speaker 1: really found a way to maximize him entirely. And then
Speaker 1: when you've got guys like Nick Chubb, he's just not
Speaker 1: featured as a as a featured back, which he's asked
Speaker 1: to be. He wanted to be that coming out of Miami.
Speaker 1: But I think they should get the third rounder barring
Speaker 1: something you because Kareem not back till week nine. And
Speaker 1: I do think it makes the Browns worse. Well, it's
Speaker 1: you know, a bit of a Mia coopo though, because
Speaker 1: one thing I learned about myself is that I need
Speaker 1: to I need to um when Brown's news happens. And
Speaker 1: what I do is I just tweet emotionally and I'm
Speaker 1: not And I think that my analysis was a little
Speaker 1: off because I was I felt like they just gave
Speaker 1: him away because you know, suddenly he's got a new agent,
Speaker 1: Drew Rosenhouse, who went into Cleveland and said I want this,
Speaker 1: and so you know, weeks later he's out for and
Speaker 1: I and I get to the third round pick um,
Speaker 1: which is the largest compensation for running back for some
Speaker 1: research since Trent Richardson was shipped out of Cleveland. So
Speaker 1: you know, I was. I think that I my initial
Speaker 1: reaction was off and that I thought the Browns basically
Speaker 1: just caved into wishes when they got they got good
Speaker 1: compensation back. But I don't love. I don't love the
Speaker 1: timing well, and also that I'm texting you guys like
Speaker 1: all this stuff where you don't need that, Like I
Speaker 1: think I told Dan. I think I told Dan to
Speaker 1: die at one point because he I said. My response
Speaker 1: was to the trade. Once it was I said, wow,
Speaker 1: you know, third round pick, attentially, that's a nice return
Speaker 1: for your third string running back. Marx replied die Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, so how about you know, I need to
Speaker 1: learn to grow a little bit, and like I and
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm gonna try to not treat one team
Speaker 1: and the differently, but I rely one. It's just to
Speaker 1: set the tone of a positive concern. Though. Is this
Speaker 1: because we'll get into another bit of news that happened
Speaker 1: to Cleveland. It is when you when you start to
Speaker 1: look at your roster as you've got riches at all
Speaker 1: these positions that you can give away. You know, I
Speaker 1: think they might very well need Duke Johnson. They they
Speaker 1: have some other guys up beyond Nick Chubb that are
Speaker 1: showing some promise even last night in the game. But
Speaker 1: I don't like the idea just handing away Duke Johnson
Speaker 1: this far before you get Kareem Hunt. If you could
Speaker 1: have done it closer to the trade deadline, which is
Speaker 1: there's no surety that you could. I would have been
Speaker 1: happier with the timing. The other news is that Antonio Callaway,
Speaker 1: they're promising second year wide receiver, has been suspended four
Speaker 1: games for a substance abuse violation. UM. This the twenty
Speaker 1: two year old who really did flash last year as
Speaker 1: a rookie. UM. If you remember, he was cited for
Speaker 1: marijuana possession and driving with a suspended license last August.
Speaker 1: But Mike Gara Folo, our own Mike Gara Folo reports
Speaker 1: the suspension stems from a separate incident. Uh. That marijuana
Speaker 1: charged by the way, the one that I mentioned there
Speaker 1: was dismissed in February. Worry so uh and and which
Speaker 1: is you know a little bit refreshing on my end.
Speaker 1: He released the statement taking responsibility for his actions and
Speaker 1: saying I'm gonna eat the suspension and that's what it is, uh,
Speaker 1: instead of fighting it. So Callaway out on the shelf
Speaker 1: four games. Your thoughts there, Mark, Well, I mean, so
Speaker 1: suddenly you don't have Duke Johnson and you don't have
Speaker 1: Callaway in this offense that's super deep. Is just simply
Speaker 1: not as deep, and a couple of injuries going the
Speaker 1: wrong way could turn Cleveland into a different type of roster.
Speaker 1: I would say the thing that they have going for them,
Speaker 1: and this continued into I realized it's just one game.
Speaker 1: But last night, ever since Baker Mayfield took over, I
Speaker 1: thought that Richard Higgins went from being someone who was
Speaker 1: cuttable and essentially at zero asset to someone who's growing
Speaker 1: as a wide receiver. And he played really well last night.
Speaker 1: I think he just he he that you need a
Speaker 1: third guy, and I get that you have Beckham and
Speaker 1: Landry and and what a great situation you are. And
Speaker 1: even with this these these these news items that these
Speaker 1: are hits to your depth and that's importan and have depth.
Speaker 1: But Landry and Backham are superior receivers, uh Chub and
Speaker 1: Hunt when he comes back with superior rushers. I think
Speaker 1: the Browns are still in very good shape right now.
Speaker 1: I just think that they one thing about them is
Speaker 1: the early schedule, and I think the chemistry issues in
Speaker 1: general are there's a lot of challenges out there. It
Speaker 1: could be a rough start, and where are you by
Speaker 1: the time Cream Hunt comes back When you're trying to
Speaker 1: get rid of the haunted house and turn the page
Speaker 1: and institute a new culture. You don't need the ghost
Speaker 1: of Josh Gordon hanging around. No, this is a little
Speaker 1: too soon. Moving on. Did you know, by the way,
Speaker 1: that there's still litigation going around around the NFC Championship
Speaker 1: games Saints fans and specific specifically one particularly angry super fan.
Speaker 1: He's a lawyer. Uh West got a good lawyer jokes.
Speaker 1: I forget all of them. Okay, I just thought, like
Speaker 1: a Maleman would have, like, it's like, hey, where's the
Speaker 1: you know, the best place for a law fest to
Speaker 1: be are So your interview tell them what you are
Speaker 1: to the interview, to my law firm interview. I've told
Speaker 1: this before. A dangling earing and what was on it
Speaker 1: crucifix is not Barry Bonds is like giants hearing the
Speaker 1: job Dan Dan got at the bottom of the ocean. Um,
Speaker 1: did they tell you never wear the earring again? Which,
Speaker 1: by the way, that was infringing on your religious beliefs
Speaker 1: at the time. I am not a person who gets
Speaker 1: offended by that stuff. But yeah, nobody tells better lawyer
Speaker 1: jokes than lawyers. Yeah. Anyway, So there's a super fan
Speaker 1: Tony Laman he had filed a fraud suit against the
Speaker 1: NFL before the Super Bowl and UH connected to the
Speaker 1: blown past interference called the NFC Title Game. And he,
Speaker 1: because he's a lawyer and he knows the little tricks,
Speaker 1: he crafted the suit so that damage stay under a
Speaker 1: certain figure. It's seventy five dollars, which means it stays
Speaker 1: in state courts and in front of most likely judges
Speaker 1: that support the Saints. So he's trying to work in everything. Now.
Speaker 1: The problem here is that you know UH. And then
Speaker 1: on top of the courts then ruled in Louisiana that
Speaker 1: NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell and three game officials would have
Speaker 1: to be deposed in September. I mean, what a waste
Speaker 1: of taxpayers money. It's a football game anyway. The NFL
Speaker 1: is appealing that ruling, and now the Saints have to
Speaker 1: because they don't want to get involved with this, They've
Speaker 1: had to come out and file a brief in support
Speaker 1: of the league. I mean, the final insult to injury
Speaker 1: for the Saints. Now we have to support the NFL
Speaker 1: to drop a lawsuit against you routing our franchise with
Speaker 1: a horrible p I call. It's a wild scenario going on,
Speaker 1: and it is very much up in the air. There
Speaker 1: is the possibility that league figures, including the top of
Speaker 1: the food Chame Goodell has to uh answer answer questions.
Speaker 1: What's his named? Tony Lemon? Yeah, I adore what he's done.
Speaker 1: I think it's beautiful. It's chaotic, it's strange. This made
Speaker 1: me spend a week in jail. They should someone should
Speaker 1: do like a owner suit to Drew Brees for throwing
Speaker 1: an interception to start overtime. People kind of forget that
Speaker 1: they do such a It's like overtime starts, Drew Brees
Speaker 1: immediately throws an interception that gives the Rams the win,
Speaker 1: and no one's mentioned that once since then. Just it's
Speaker 1: worth mentioning and a little bit more context. The NFL
Speaker 1: is arguing, in their quest to dismiss this entire travesty
Speaker 1: UH that the lawsuit, if it proceeds, would allow other fans,
Speaker 1: thousands of fans, to sue the league whenever they want
Speaker 1: over something as simple as a missed call, which is
Speaker 1: fair third strike that was called a ball. Sue the league.
Speaker 1: What this man should be in jail wasting time and money?
Speaker 1: There you go. I I my counterpoint. I find it delicious.
Speaker 1: You should be in jail too. All right, let's spin around. Um,
Speaker 1: A lot of injury stuff to go through, so will
Speaker 1: be kind of quick here. Robert Quinney's you know, it's
Speaker 1: on my radar that he'd had the club early in
Speaker 1: the season because he had that thumb surgery for the Cowboys. Well,
Speaker 1: might have avoid the club because he's not playing. Robert
Speaker 1: Quinn's availability for week one was already in question because
Speaker 1: of the fracture fracture left hand. Well now he won't
Speaker 1: to be available weeks one or two suspended for using
Speaker 1: a masking agent. And yes, uh he fired out an
Speaker 1: angry um statement saying he is innocent. Perhaps he is.
Speaker 1: I will not get into that right now unless you
Speaker 1: guys have a take other injuries. Nate Sudfeld broken wrist
Speaker 1: for the Eagles, so their depth chart just got lighter
Speaker 1: there behind Carson Wentz, Cody Castler. Uh wow really Uh?
Speaker 1: I mean it's not like Sudfeld is necessarily super trustworthy.
Speaker 1: Although he's made some throws in the three season, that
Speaker 1: is a big drop off. Remember John d Filippo, when
Speaker 1: I interviewed him for that one story I did, talked
Speaker 1: up Sunfeld put a lot of resources. That's their situation.
Speaker 1: If Carson Wentz gets hurt again, he's expected him a
Speaker 1: six weeks. He had surgery today Friday. Gabe Jackson, uh
Speaker 1: the Raiders right guard, will miss approximately eight weeks with
Speaker 1: an m c L injury. The athletics of Victor for
Speaker 1: uh Taffer John Taffery today two times, three times he's
Speaker 1: been mentioned. I don't know. I think so. I know
Speaker 1: he's a buddy of Mike Silver's from back. Then that's
Speaker 1: a big loss. I think if the Raiders are gonna
Speaker 1: be good, it's gonna be or surprising. It's gonna because
Speaker 1: of their offense, and it's gonna because their offensive line
Speaker 1: is better, and he's a big part. Well, they gave
Speaker 1: up the It's easy to forget a Car has been
Speaker 1: beaten up in some of these games in the past.
Speaker 1: They gave up the third no sacks last year in
Speaker 1: your wide receivers on the lamb. There were games last
Speaker 1: year where Car could not operate because of his line,
Speaker 1: and I don't think there're any better this year. Terrible
Speaker 1: setback for Jermaine Curse, the veteran wide receiver trying to
Speaker 1: get his career back on track with the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 1: That won't happen in twenty nineteen. He's been diagnosed with
Speaker 1: a broken left leg and quote assorted injuries to his
Speaker 1: ankle very ugly UH play in preseason opener against the Patriots.
Speaker 1: So um curse is at twenty nine years old. This
Speaker 1: is gonna be a tough one to come back for.
Speaker 1: From good luck to him. Uh. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Speaker 1: Vita vea first round last year defensive lineman Adam Schefter,
Speaker 1: reports that he's been diagnosed with a sprain L c
Speaker 1: L and we'll be sidelines six to eight weeks. They hope,
Speaker 1: They hope he'll be ready and before that. But week
Speaker 1: one not looking too hot. Now. There is a transition.
Speaker 1: By the way, Greg, you talked about this earlier in
Speaker 1: the week, Any injury that happens, what's today August night,
Speaker 1: Any injury that happens before August seven, everyone probably ready
Speaker 1: for a week one. Once you hit August nine, all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it pushes back and it's like probably
Speaker 1: open week two, week three, probably good chance he mrs
Speaker 1: the open. There is that cut off. Anyway, Vita is
Speaker 1: on the other side of that. Bad news for him
Speaker 1: because you know they're expecting a lot hell cl is
Speaker 1: no joke. That's more serious than an m c O.
Speaker 1: There there, d line looked like it could be if
Speaker 1: they were healthy, kind of spicy, a little vita via
Speaker 1: and Dominican sue stopping the run in the middle. But
Speaker 1: that's a big loss, a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: Niners injury news to go through. Nick Bosa questionable for
Speaker 1: week one season right, he was right on the borderline
Speaker 1: right there. He was right on the Dalton line there
Speaker 1: when he heard that ankle earlier this week. He's questionable
Speaker 1: for week one. It's John Lynch the Niners GM said
Speaker 1: it's not a full blown high ankle sprain, which is
Speaker 1: that could kill your season or ruin half of one,
Speaker 1: but it's got components to it that doesn't sound Do
Speaker 1: you know that sounds like a high ankle spring Yeah.
Speaker 1: Jared McKinnon add him to the list of people. The
Speaker 1: running back for the Niners got a PRP injection, who
Speaker 1: was excited that that, of course is the plat lit
Speaker 1: platelet rich platelet rich plasma injection, which is just taken off. Well,
Speaker 1: they take out your blood and spin it and then
Speaker 1: put it back in right, and not only that, it's yeah.
Speaker 1: I tweeted a little bit about it, and I heard
Speaker 1: about a procedure called the vampire facial, which is a
Speaker 1: popular popular move among celebrities where they use PRP technology
Speaker 1: to take out your blood and then inject it into
Speaker 1: your face. I would say that there, I know for
Speaker 1: a fact that there is a young star quarterbacks wife
Speaker 1: vampire Vampire facials on the name though. I just want
Speaker 1: to thank Greg for bringing this to my attention. That
Speaker 1: is my fantasy team name for my team, Vampire Facial.
Speaker 1: I'm writing it down right now so I don't forget
Speaker 1: sounds awesome. I watched one live on an Instagram story
Speaker 1: being being done and it is quite a sight. So
Speaker 1: I've never heard of it until today when when people
Speaker 1: responded about the vampire I'll tell you offline, who doesn't.
Speaker 1: You can see it yourself, Ricky, any experience yourself with
Speaker 1: a vampire facial? Yeah, couple, Really, it's a ridiculous human beings.
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm three years away from being able to
Speaker 1: afford that. Um. Jason Varette, the Niners cornerback, is a
Speaker 1: what was deemed a not a minor ankle injury. He'll
Speaker 1: miss the entire preseason. Rap sheet UM reported earlier that
Speaker 1: it was minor, but Kyle Shanahan, the Iers coach, said
Speaker 1: the opposite, So not a good look there. And also finally,
Speaker 1: Kawan Williams, uh Niners defensive back, he's out for the
Speaker 1: entire preseason after a scope on his knee. So the
Speaker 1: Niners are all sorts of beat up. Now. The good
Speaker 1: thing is you don't hear anything about Jimmy j In fact,
Speaker 1: you hear everything is good about how his his progress is.
Speaker 1: But especially you hate the Nick Bosa one because that
Speaker 1: sounds like something that could potentially throw his entire rookie
Speaker 1: year off track. And he missed a lot of the
Speaker 1: o t A season two with a different injury, and
Speaker 1: you do just his brothers struggles to stay healthy as well, right,
Speaker 1: I don't you know, you hate to say, like if
Speaker 1: someone's injury prone or not, but he is. He is
Speaker 1: a crucial, crucial part of the forty Niners defense getting better.
Speaker 1: And if they don't have him, and if d Ford
Speaker 1: is not, then suddenly that whole rebuild doesn't look nearly
Speaker 1: is That's been the story of this of this rebuilding,
Speaker 1: constant injuries and I look at a guy like Jerrick McKinnon.
Speaker 1: You go out and you went on got Tevin Coleman,
Speaker 1: You have Matt Breda. Are they already I mean, are
Speaker 1: we at the point where maybe Jerrick McKinnon never really
Speaker 1: becomes a large part of this offense their team building?
Speaker 1: It sounds like an I R. Boomerang guy. They blew
Speaker 1: it by having him practice lightly for a day. They
Speaker 1: can't put him on the p Also, it sounds like
Speaker 1: a request a pay cut. Guy. I think you're not
Speaker 1: wrong with haircut. Take a haircut. Take a hair cut.
Speaker 1: All right, that's what's happening in the news. Alright, some
Speaker 1: takeaways from preseason opener action. Uh well, let me start
Speaker 1: where about it is. It's because at the end of
Speaker 1: the end of the day, what is the NFL about?
Speaker 1: What's what's sports about? Who won and who lost? Take
Speaker 1: a quick look at the standings. We're gonna dig into
Speaker 1: that a little bit deeper. Yeah, just be aware. I
Speaker 1: just want you guys to be aware that for all
Speaker 1: the excitement and all the high open, all the pop
Speaker 1: around the Atlanta Falcons, I guess who's O and two
Speaker 1: right now? Not the Detroit Lions and two. My friends
Speaker 1: all right, Greg, what was the takeaway you had from
Speaker 1: watching football? It's football. It's doesn't matter, it doesn't count,
Speaker 1: but it is something that we could actually watch takeaways
Speaker 1: from the action. There's not a ton in in the
Speaker 1: first preseason week. But the thing I think it can
Speaker 1: be valuable is just identifying a young player too, like
Speaker 1: Preston Williams in Miami who made more plays in that
Speaker 1: game with Josh Rosen, then plenty of guys making their
Speaker 1: entire career like la Kwan Treadwell has never made. He
Speaker 1: hasn't made close to three to four the players that
Speaker 1: Preston Williams made in that in that game. So it's
Speaker 1: just like, hey, here's something one to watch like. It
Speaker 1: was incredible the athleticism he showed on all four of
Speaker 1: his catches. He's been great in camp. He might be,
Speaker 1: you know, in their top three receiver rotations. Just like, hey,
Speaker 1: if your Dolphins fan get excited. Rosen was a little
Speaker 1: up and down, but also moved the ball up and
Speaker 1: down the field and had three, four or five really
Speaker 1: nice throws. So it's kind of like, okay, I like,
Speaker 1: if you're a Dolphins fan of hey, there or something.
Speaker 1: I guess I had to check this game out, or
Speaker 1: I'll just take your guy's word for it. But the
Speaker 1: one thing I heard about Rosen is that he threw
Speaker 1: a bad pick, but he was working behind a second
Speaker 1: team line and they were and it was comically bad.
Speaker 1: And what can you learn about Josh Rosen or any
Speaker 1: quarterback when you literally you have turnstile in front of you.
Speaker 1: That's a tough situation. How do you beat how do
Speaker 1: you beat out Ryan Fitzpatrick? How do you stay healthy?
Speaker 1: How do you make plays? But what he did last year,
Speaker 1: I saw a little bit last night where under duress
Speaker 1: he made a couple really nice throws. And he's been
Speaker 1: done his whole career. He settled down. He had a
Speaker 1: couple of touchdown drives and would have been a couple more.
Speaker 1: He's had a positive couple of coach also said he
Speaker 1: needs to rain down the Cowboys. Yeah, there was one
Speaker 1: one particular throw where a guy is all over him
Speaker 1: and he just totally just threw it up in the
Speaker 1: air and Preston Williams came down with it. But it
Speaker 1: was it was lucky. Um. I watched the Etch Giants
Speaker 1: game and a couple takeaways. First of all, damnit, Sam
Speaker 1: Donald looks good. I'm so excited for him. By the way,
Speaker 1: the Jets uniforms look good too. Everybody else take a
Speaker 1: look at him. Helmets. But if you're happy with it,
Speaker 1: that's all that. I don't think they somehow. What I
Speaker 1: think they pulled off is they really did take the
Speaker 1: nineties uniform and kind of merge it with the their reboot,
Speaker 1: their back to the future uniforms. I like the helmets, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm cool with it. If you're cool with it, we're good.
Speaker 1: But more importantly, Sam Donald looks good now. The Giants
Speaker 1: are all out of whack. In the first Donald played
Speaker 1: just one possession, but he carved them up um five
Speaker 1: completions through a touchdown pass. Jamison Crowder, you want to look.
Speaker 1: We're not going to the Fantasy extravaganza yet, but Jamison
Speaker 1: Crowder is a guy on the radar um the way
Speaker 1: that offense runs uh and with way Adam Gaze operates.
Speaker 1: Remember how Jarvis Landry, how he piled up receptions. I
Speaker 1: could see crowd Or being a guy that approaches a
Speaker 1: hundred catches. Maybe if he stays healthy, which is a
Speaker 1: big part of it. Adam Gaze, you smelling salts before
Speaker 1: kickoff an amazing little bit of video that like circulated
Speaker 1: across Twitter last night. What did that? Due to his eyes,
Speaker 1: it was all it did what you imagine that it
Speaker 1: would do. Dan Pompeii over at The Athletic wrote a
Speaker 1: piece about gaze Um that was illuminating, including because my wife,
Speaker 1: for instance, my beautiful Emily, both our children h C
Speaker 1: section births, and it is a I don't know anything simone, now, No, no,
Speaker 1: I'm sure Emily is excited that this is being broadcast
Speaker 1: to U multiple it's it's a beautiful maybe maybe maybe
Speaker 1: she is excited. It's it's thank God for science because
Speaker 1: and and medical technology because women mark you have an issue.
Speaker 1: For thousands of years, women died on operating tables before
Speaker 1: these things were options. I don't have a stance on s. Second,
Speaker 1: I'm saying like I preferred those days when women would die.
Speaker 1: You know that is I am being spoken four not
Speaker 1: correctly anyway. Having been there for to C section births,
Speaker 1: it is a major major surgery to the point where
Speaker 1: to get the baby out you have to remove organs
Speaker 1: and you set them outside the body and then put
Speaker 1: them back in. This is a real thing, and I
Speaker 1: lived it. And I'll tell you what Adam Gaze in
Speaker 1: this profile Dan Pompeii, right after the baby came out,
Speaker 1: there's another hour of surgery about to put everything back
Speaker 1: in place. He said you good, honey, and she was
Speaker 1: like okay, and he took off and went back to
Speaker 1: the Broncos facility to meet with with Peyton Manning. That's wild.
Speaker 1: It is wild. I let like in West you, I
Speaker 1: think you kind of talked about that being a bit
Speaker 1: of a puff piece around Gaze. If you go look
Speaker 1: at Pompeii's Twitter timeline, he dug into some other stuff
Speaker 1: that I found interesting, a little bit of the other
Speaker 1: side of the Adam Gaze experience. I also, yeah, I
Speaker 1: had a someone connected in the journalism world, closely to
Speaker 1: the New York Jets that said that there is a
Speaker 1: lot more to Adam Gates that was not talked about
Speaker 1: in that piece. I mean, I find him fascinating. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I trust him, but I find
Speaker 1: him fascinating. But anyway, so, and then on the other
Speaker 1: side of it, West Daniel Jones, he goes five for five,
Speaker 1: throws a touchdown for the Giants, and after the um
Speaker 1: the touchdown drive and of course, all the reporters asking
Speaker 1: is this a real quarterback competition? Now, you almost got
Speaker 1: the sense of Pat Shermer would have rather Jones didn't
Speaker 1: do that because he wants us to go away. He
Speaker 1: wants I think in in the Giants plan in their
Speaker 1: mind as they want Eli to start the season and
Speaker 1: then give way. But Jones does have the advantage of
Speaker 1: with actual games being played. If he goes off in
Speaker 1: these three or four preseason weeks, that's that's gonna there's
Speaker 1: gonna be a real loud drumbeat for him to play immediately.
Speaker 1: So it is something to track. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: a total done deal that Eli is gonna start with
Speaker 1: God forbid, you want to play. If you're the coach
Speaker 1: the better quarterback, I think it is a done deal.
Speaker 1: But these these preseason weeks are crucial. The least can
Speaker 1: get a lot short. That's what I'm and ricky quarterbacks
Speaker 1: can put that thought into the coach's mind where if
Speaker 1: you play great in August, then maybe you're playing Week three.
Speaker 1: If Eli Eli Eli in the offense were booed off
Speaker 1: the field, well it was three downs and I'm just
Speaker 1: saying like whatever, like immense goodwill was there on the
Speaker 1: part of the fans is they're they're ready to turn
Speaker 1: the page. So we'll see one of that Pat Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones every time he shows up to a Yankees game. Confused,
Speaker 1: confused group, Man, I think you misread my ire towards
Speaker 1: the Giants. Okay, go ahead. There's nothing I want more
Speaker 1: than for Daniel Jones to be good and interesting, so
Speaker 1: Giants fans have something to look forward to and the
Speaker 1: media can start actually covering a team that's worthy of
Speaker 1: all the expectations they place on it. Perennially exciting to
Speaker 1: see West on the Giants bandwagon all of a sudden
Speaker 1: the last couple of episodes, West, you have a preseason
Speaker 1: take away? Can I do? Like to lightning ones that
Speaker 1: don't need a whole lot of analysis, But just to
Speaker 1: Christian Wade the Bills running back from England, the rugby
Speaker 1: player already way more intriguing than Jared Hayne. Ever, was
Speaker 1: what explosion on the Touch Show? Because there are fewer
Speaker 1: than one player skill position player per team who have
Speaker 1: angle beating speed with the ball in their hands, and
Speaker 1: this guy beat the angles with his speed. Who knows
Speaker 1: if he's a running back? I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: if he can run between the tackles or do the
Speaker 1: things that have the instincts that are running back has.
Speaker 1: But on that one one play, he showed me that
Speaker 1: he's interesting. Um. And and the second thing, if you
Speaker 1: viewed Bears running back David Montgomery as a dark horse
Speaker 1: rookie the Year candidate and a major upgrade on Jordan Howard,
Speaker 1: his debut was solid confirmation bias talk about angle, beating
Speaker 1: speed and being able to stop on a dime. He
Speaker 1: looks really fun to watch. And Matt Naggie, I'll know
Speaker 1: how to use him. Him and Cohen in the same
Speaker 1: backfield is going to be spicy. Mark Um a couple
Speaker 1: of little nuggets I thought, along with Christian Wade, you
Speaker 1: know the preseason, you can it's cool little things happen
Speaker 1: for around people that we may never see again in
Speaker 1: the regular season. In the Browns game, Damon Shey Giseppi,
Speaker 1: who essentially snuck his way into a tryout by going
Speaker 1: up to Alonzo Highsmith after googling him and and pretending
Speaker 1: to who that he belonged to the tryouts. He was.
Speaker 1: He was a guy that in college had great return
Speaker 1: skills and he returned an eighty six yard punt returned
Speaker 1: for score last night at the end of a romp
Speaker 1: over the Redskins that cleared the Browns bench. In one
Speaker 1: cool little footnote, he lost his cleats before the game,
Speaker 1: and Odell Beckham, who's taken a liking to him, said
Speaker 1: where mine, and he wore Odell Beckham's cleats when he
Speaker 1: ran that thing back. Secondly, bad news for old Geno Smith,
Speaker 1: who's out for seven to day to ten days during
Speaker 1: a critical center of the preseason, while Paxton Lynch went
Speaker 1: out and assassinated the Broncos cart three. I wonder if
Speaker 1: case Keenum is as Greg I think you noted a
Speaker 1: solid month ago in a column. Definitely someone they're trying
Speaker 1: to shop potentially. I don't know if you want to
Speaker 1: roll into the preceded into the regular season without a
Speaker 1: veteran like him. But he started him last night. He
Speaker 1: made a nice throw. He's fine. But then the rook
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins to me very up and down, made one
Speaker 1: awesome throw and then had two killer picks. Next up
Speaker 1: XFL for you, boy, Gino. Because the Paxton puts together
Speaker 1: one more of those performances, they're just gonna say, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's developed a kid. It's a long preseason. I also
Speaker 1: loved Jacoby Myers because Dan where we grew up, Jacoby
Speaker 1: and Myers was a long running legal house ad that
Speaker 1: would nag you during reruns if you were staying home
Speaker 1: from school and there in the New England area. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's in the perfect New England area and in the northeast.
Speaker 1: Jacoby and Myers was the TV legal powerhouse. But of
Speaker 1: course there was also called The Loss Is of Richard P.
Speaker 1: Nine Mark because sometimes taccidents happened in your anchor banker
Speaker 1: like he understands your anchor banker, she under next story
Speaker 1: is the guy you know is throwing at Jacoby Meyers
Speaker 1: part of that game, I mean the searches over. The
Speaker 1: Patriots have their next time, Brady, it's Jared'stidham. If you're
Speaker 1: come in, looks good. He's the future. If Maurice Harris
Speaker 1: lasted three days as the number one receiver in New England,
Speaker 1: I thought it was the same guy. I can't I
Speaker 1: can't give hey Harris. Harris scored the first touchdown of
Speaker 1: the preseason. He also had a bad mistake. And yes,
Speaker 1: also I mean on the other end of the spectrum
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray the number one overall pick He looked like
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick um. All seven of his
Speaker 1: passes were caught, uh, six of seven final and god,
Speaker 1: what is his ceiling as a rookie. They're fun, It's
Speaker 1: gonna be very it. Yeah, he looks like a guy
Speaker 1: who's been in the same offense since high school and
Speaker 1: he has what is he going to do this year?
Speaker 1: Hopefully hopefully not hopefully not get hurt if they protect
Speaker 1: him like they did in that game where three different
Speaker 1: times free rushers came after him. That's why I think
Speaker 1: they might have played him a little longer. But going
Speaker 1: up against the other starters, he had to evade the
Speaker 1: rush like three different times, and he did it amazingly
Speaker 1: each time. But they're a bad often of line that's
Speaker 1: already really hurt and that that's well, the challenge with
Speaker 1: that offense. It's four or five wide receivers tight end
Speaker 1: free with maybe a running back and five a bad
Speaker 1: offensive line of five guys that need to defense is
Speaker 1: going to figure about to go after the quarterback. So
Speaker 1: do we have to swap out because Christian Wade, by
Speaker 1: the way, circling back to the Bills, the former rugby
Speaker 1: player he is. He's assigned through the NFL's International Player
Speaker 1: Pathway program and because of that, the Bills can carry
Speaker 1: him on their practice squad. UH an extra player and
Speaker 1: it's it's fine. Is Christian Wade going to replace Mobo
Speaker 1: Ringer for our updates? We gotta that's a conversation we
Speaker 1: have to have. Maybe we take it offline, but at
Speaker 1: what point do we pull the plug on mobile bow
Speaker 1: Ringer is the guy we're tracking. I just still want to.
Speaker 1: I don't want to lose the the theme music that
Speaker 1: comes with most Christian wilwhere. But yeah, if Mobo doesn't
Speaker 1: make it through into the seat, maybe we put a
Speaker 1: clock on him through this preseason. I mean, he's been
Speaker 1: so highly relevant for up until this. Penry Watson or
Speaker 1: the director of International, vice president of International, he listens
Speaker 1: to every episode and every time we talk about this,
Speaker 1: I could actually hear him and his office going, oh Dad,
Speaker 1: it's such an awesome Well mobs into trouble right now
Speaker 1: because the Bengals are rather deep at tight end. It's
Speaker 1: like probably the only position they're deep on the entire rafter.
Speaker 1: They have a second round pick. They have C. J. Ozama,
Speaker 1: who's their starter, and they have Tyler Eiffort, so we
Speaker 1: move them again. I think shift them into the backfield.
Speaker 1: Was a versatile player we're talking about, all right, That's
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Speaker 1: we go. What you people don't know about? Teams no
Speaker 1: one is talking about or maybe it's just us. All right,
Speaker 1: so here it is. Let's get into it already. Set
Speaker 1: it up in part at the top of the show. Uh.
Speaker 1: During the segment, there will be fourteen NFL teams, some
Speaker 1: of which we talked about already today, probably all of them. Uh.
Speaker 1: And for this segment and the segment alone, they are
Speaker 1: not allowed to be the focus of any conversation. And
Speaker 1: beyond that, they cannot even be referenced in any way.
Speaker 1: And that includes not just the team name, but if
Speaker 1: you're talking about it, for instance, Uh, you know the Patriots.
Speaker 1: You can't mention Bill Belichick. There is no reference to
Speaker 1: that team or anyone connected to it, and you will
Speaker 1: be penalized for it. Here's this pink construction helmet that's
Speaker 1: been outside our studio for months. Um, get your wallets out,
Speaker 1: because anytime you said and I will be moderating this, okay,
Speaker 1: anytime I hear it, or Ricky Hollywood hears it. Um,
Speaker 1: you will hear this mention pink team, mention band team mentioned,
Speaker 1: and you will drop a dollar and it will go
Speaker 1: to a charity of Greg's choice. You're missing an opportunity
Speaker 1: that the charity sounds great, but I thought you were
Speaker 1: going to say, we have to wear that hat until
Speaker 1: the next person pink. Much better idea if you mentioned
Speaker 1: a team. Thank you, Greg. You wear the hot pink
Speaker 1: helmet until someone else mentions a band team. Now I
Speaker 1: am not involved with this. I am a moderator. It's
Speaker 1: important that I'm here, so I cannot wear the pink.
Speaker 1: You're not making any of that, I will not be.
Speaker 1: I have to be tracking. This is important that someone
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Speaker 1: thoughts potentially on the various topics which would put me
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Speaker 1: serve mostly as a moderator. Here. Let's get into it
Speaker 1: so way. Why are the teams we can't talk about? Oh?
Speaker 1: Here are the band teams? The New England Patriots out,
Speaker 1: the Jets out, Dolphins, Fish Tank is out, the Ravens out,
Speaker 1: get out of that nest. The Brownies sorry Mark out,
Speaker 1: first team out. I mean we've spent like twenty minutes
Speaker 1: on them already, and the Browns are out? Are you
Speaker 1: gonna tell us twice? The Texans are out? The Cults,
Speaker 1: Sorry West, They're gone. They're not an August team. Broncos
Speaker 1: sorry West, they gone. Raiders out, Cowboys out out, Eagles
Speaker 1: they gone. Mark Brown's out. Packers also out. O Rams out. Well,
Speaker 1: that makes Mark happy, and the Browns are out again.
Speaker 1: If you hear this, that would mean that you have
Speaker 1: triggered the alarms teams. I don't know what that says.
Speaker 1: I think it says that the Patriots, Jets, and Browns
Speaker 1: are all the ac um. Okay, here we go. Let's
Speaker 1: get into it. Get us going Greg, so just and again,
Speaker 1: what do you get there? All right, somebody else start,
Speaker 1: But I just want to say, talk about anything you
Speaker 1: want about those teams. You have, what fourteen teams? What
Speaker 1: does that mean? Eighteen teams to choose from? Mark, choose one.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about the Carolina Panthers who last year,
Speaker 1: if you remember, I had a list of teams that
Speaker 1: were annoying me highly and that I simply didn't believe.
Speaker 1: We put on the big helme it. It's gonna look
Speaker 1: good on west this element that was so easy. I
Speaker 1: can't go on over now we can make it hell
Speaker 1: that looks good on you. But if the west side
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati gets ahold of this, you could be a
Speaker 1: workman in a second. Yeah, I'm not really worried about
Speaker 1: the west is Incinnati gating ahold of this. If spice
Speaker 1: Rackx sees this, he will move back to Vegas. Spice
Speaker 1: Rex got his own issue anyway, go on. I think
Speaker 1: the Panthers have some of Some of what is happening
Speaker 1: in Carolina is flying under the radar because of the
Speaker 1: you know, concern around cam Newton's recovery, and there are
Speaker 1: some concerning elements. But let's in this in this world,
Speaker 1: presume that he's healthy by week one two. People. I
Speaker 1: think that the Panthers for a long time feel like
Speaker 1: they've been the same seven or eight guys on defense
Speaker 1: and the same group of people on offense that you
Speaker 1: kind of could take it into year after year. Huge
Speaker 1: leap coming for Curtis Samuel and it's it's he's to
Speaker 1: a major breakout figure in that offense. Ron Rivera talked
Speaker 1: about him as someone who is light years ahead of
Speaker 1: where he was as a rookie. I've thought this quote
Speaker 1: from Tory Smith about Curtis Samuel was interesting. He's had
Speaker 1: the most growth out of any player I've ever seen
Speaker 1: in terms of confidence, everything. I'm expecting him to have
Speaker 1: a huge year. He's worked his way to be in
Speaker 1: that position. So I think the offense, which is starting
Speaker 1: to shift in the last couple of seasons, starts to
Speaker 1: be anchored around people that didn't even exist in Carolina
Speaker 1: going back a few years. Curtis Samuel a big year.
Speaker 1: And I think that Marty Hernie, who you know, we've
Speaker 1: laughed at, who he's on a second run is the
Speaker 1: Panthers GM brought in is almost an emergency patch and
Speaker 1: he got them in the cap hell the first time
Speaker 1: he was around. Has done a nice job in a
Speaker 1: in a number of ways. And you know, and I
Speaker 1: think they with with Brian Burns. Their first pick looks
Speaker 1: like right away, someone that is going to give something
Speaker 1: they need, which is pass rush and a home run.
Speaker 1: Pick had two sacks last night, very act a player
Speaker 1: was someone that played every down at Florida State, a
Speaker 1: totally reliable, versatile dude. So it's new anchors in Carolina,
Speaker 1: and it's easy to forget. They were six and two
Speaker 1: last year before the wheels fell off the course, before
Speaker 1: Cam's shoulder went spiritually separating from his body down the stretch.
Speaker 1: If he's healthy, I think this is a team that
Speaker 1: can win the division and take New Orleans out. It
Speaker 1: seems like a pretty settled roster. They have a lot
Speaker 1: of impact players and both sides of all they need
Speaker 1: their health greg Olsen, Cam Newton, Gerald McCoy, Luke Keickley.
Speaker 1: But you know, all these additions. Yeah, I really like
Speaker 1: what they did in the offseason. Bruce Irving, is there
Speaker 1: now Burns? You mentioned, Uh, there are many teams that
Speaker 1: have good three guys that can make their own plays
Speaker 1: after the catch like Samuel More, DJ Moore and Christian McCaffrey,
Speaker 1: as as the Panthers. Oh, young guys, Chris Hogan, I'm
Speaker 1: not as high end. We're not allowed to before. I
Speaker 1: always forget where he's from. It's a team up. He
Speaker 1: was the only guy Tom Brady was throwing incompletion connected
Speaker 1: You're done. Every time Dan asked a question, I totally
Speaker 1: forget the game that we're playing. Got the pink helmet?
Speaker 1: Your head looks huge, Greg not so much of a
Speaker 1: workman persona to uh West, Go ahead, you're up next. Dan.
Speaker 1: About ten minutes ago, you said sports are about winning
Speaker 1: and losing. Absolutely, I've always felt that, and I promised
Speaker 1: that Dick deeper, So indulge a little bit of a
Speaker 1: preamble here. Have you ever think about the evolution of
Speaker 1: fandom from childhood to grown up. When you're a child,
Speaker 1: it's all about the players. They're your heroes. They can
Speaker 1: do no wrong. That's how you see the game, That's
Speaker 1: how you experienced the game. The first sign that you
Speaker 1: are losing your hair and getting a fat tire around
Speaker 1: your midsection, and you're a middle aged fan, as you
Speaker 1: start seeing sport through the lens of team building. Why
Speaker 1: are some teams perennial contenders whereas others are always like
Speaker 1: a lost ball in high weeds? And the one thread
Speaker 1: that runs through all successful organizations in every major team
Speaker 1: sport is the ability to conceive a simple idea of
Speaker 1: what kind of team they want to have and then
Speaker 1: stick to that plan in the face of adversity. Perennial
Speaker 1: contenders have patients and planning, often coming from one strong
Speaker 1: minded visionary, and owners and presidents lose sight of this
Speaker 1: immutable sports law that is the planning and the patients
Speaker 1: that when when you have a guiding purpose or philosophy,
Speaker 1: each move is greater than some of his parts, because
Speaker 1: each new player complements each other and the system. And
Speaker 1: then you look at a team like the Redskins. Where
Speaker 1: does an expensive luxury item like box safety landing collins
Speaker 1: fit on a team that has no offensive nucleus surrounding
Speaker 1: its quarterback of the future. This team should be rebuilding
Speaker 1: or embracing the process, but the roster and salary cap
Speaker 1: are built for two thousand sixteen, two thousand fifteen um.
Speaker 1: This team has built to win the season, but it's
Speaker 1: the two season. What you people, what you Philistines in grades.
Speaker 1: What you pig skin ignor amesis don't understand is that
Speaker 1: the Redskins are in worse shape than any team in
Speaker 1: the league and have a legitimate shot at the number
Speaker 1: one pick in the draft, which usually comes down to
Speaker 1: in at quarterback play, in injuries. That's what usually gets
Speaker 1: you the number one pick. Other doormat teams have a plan.
Speaker 1: Washington is simply playing Game of Thrones, consolidating, keeping power,
Speaker 1: removing all challenges to the power. And it's fitting that
Speaker 1: they're in the political capital of the country and in
Speaker 1: their in their chain of command. Who can tell the
Speaker 1: bosses no there? Wow? Yep, And Bruce Allen feels like
Speaker 1: someone who's been behind where the rest of the league
Speaker 1: is going for a long time. And I mean he
Speaker 1: brought it around. I mean that's like, that's some people
Speaker 1: there might have been thinking that the Redskins are going
Speaker 1: to be lousy and maybe the worst team in Link,
Speaker 1: but they wouldn't have brought in the geopolitical complications. That's
Speaker 1: what you idiots would not be cooked at their salary.
Speaker 1: Cap Adrian Peterson, Alex Smith, Josh Norman, Trent Williams, Jordan Read,
Speaker 1: Vernon Davis, Ryan Kerrigan, Donald Penn. This is a two
Speaker 1: thousand fifteen roster. Looks like they have a nice building
Speaker 1: black with Terry McLaurin. I love Terry McLaren, Dwayne Haskins.
Speaker 1: This team is not built to win in two thousand.
Speaker 1: Here would be my fear that what could end up
Speaker 1: happening is that let me make sure stop the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: What happened with the Cardinals last year? That what happens
Speaker 1: now is they do a two and fourteen, they drop
Speaker 1: a three and thirteen bomb Washington and those decision makers
Speaker 1: fall in love with a quarterback and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you have that type of situation cooking because do you
Speaker 1: trust them to know how to build a team, how
Speaker 1: to be patient? You said everyone has Everyone does have
Speaker 1: a plan initially, but sticking to the plant is the
Speaker 1: hard part when the adversity. It's the old Mike Tyson line.
Speaker 1: Everyone has a plan until you get punched in the mouth.
Speaker 1: Everyone has a plan, but you need a guiding purpose
Speaker 1: in philosophy, and not every organization has that. Well, what
Speaker 1: is the Redskins raise? We do not survive until next
Speaker 1: year and keep getting the paychecks and everyone's fighting for
Speaker 1: that like Jake Gruden has. This is why I say
Speaker 1: their game of through. Salon's got his own. You know everyone,
Speaker 1: it's all about power in Washington rather identity free. We
Speaker 1: will have to do our maybe we'll call it maybe
Speaker 1: a head coach survival rankings or something before the season starts.
Speaker 1: Jake Gruden is in a terrible spot right now, terrible spot. Greg,
Speaker 1: Are you now ready to go? I mean I was ready.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I just felt like I wanted
Speaker 1: to hear what the flow is going to be like? Well,
Speaker 1: attempt to take you seriously. It was getting a vampire
Speaker 1: facial after today's show. It's tough here, Um campaigns. It's
Speaker 1: a little extra product. It's interesting there was only one
Speaker 1: team that was available in the a f C East
Speaker 1: to talk about UM. Who wasn't The Buffalo Bills are
Speaker 1: the team nice? Try? What am I gonna do? Wear?
Speaker 1: Two hats? Are the team that While we talk about
Speaker 1: him here, a lot of it's on the offense and
Speaker 1: what I think people are missing out there kind of
Speaker 1: the football Simpleton's Let's be honest, is that Sean McDermott's
Speaker 1: in his third season as their head coach and he's
Speaker 1: in his second full season with his guy Brandon Mean
Speaker 1: bringing the players aboard, and that he is someone unlike
Speaker 1: the Redskins that I think has had a long term
Speaker 1: vision and has had is seen like where this defense
Speaker 1: is going, and now that we're in season three, I
Speaker 1: think like it's here. It was a fluke they got
Speaker 1: to the wild card a couple of years ago. That
Speaker 1: was a head of schedule. But I think this guy's
Speaker 1: a great defensive coach who has really built up a
Speaker 1: group of players who are now ready to go. And
Speaker 1: I think that starts in the secondary, and that's really
Speaker 1: what people are in talking about. We've talked about tremain
Speaker 1: Edwin Edmonds on this show, who could be a breakout
Speaker 1: middle linebacker at Oliver Uh looks like a great top
Speaker 1: ten pick. He's had a big camp. They have a
Speaker 1: really nice rotation on the defensive line that reminds you
Speaker 1: of McDermott in Carolina. But if McDermott can do anything
Speaker 1: better than than any coach out there, it is coach
Speaker 1: up the secondary and this group is great. Navious Whites
Speaker 1: one of the best cornerbacks in the league. Micah Hyde
Speaker 1: and Jordan Poyer don't really get a lot of notice.
Speaker 1: But that is a terrific safety tandem that's been in
Speaker 1: this system now for a few years. They love Levi Wallace,
Speaker 1: Who's who's really earning that second cornerback job. They have
Speaker 1: depth at cornerback where like the Patriots, they can match
Speaker 1: up to different players. They have big guys, they have
Speaker 1: small guys, and McDermott really teaches that secondary well. So
Speaker 1: even if they're not big names, I think there are
Speaker 1: a lot to deal with. And I think getting to
Speaker 1: the third season where they have some continuity and everyone
Speaker 1: knows this defense really makes them prime to be one
Speaker 1: of the best defenses in the league. I love that.
Speaker 1: And if you look at what happened, one of the
Speaker 1: reasons that Sean McDermott got a head coaching job was
Speaker 1: because in Carolina when Da Gettleman went out of his
Speaker 1: way to not pay cornerbacks and safety's money and and
Speaker 1: McDermott year after year had to work with no names,
Speaker 1: and he kept coaching them up and they were never
Speaker 1: a liability. They outperformed what you would have thought. And
Speaker 1: he's doing it with more talent now in Buffalo, and
Speaker 1: he's found his guys like Toron Johnson is not a
Speaker 1: guy that we've ever talked about. But he's a fourth round,
Speaker 1: second year pick who they really love as their nickelback.
Speaker 1: Like he is their guy. He's been in their system,
Speaker 1: Their safeties are there, guys, and I just look up
Speaker 1: and down his roster and I think he thinks, all right,
Speaker 1: we've put it together. Let's be a top five defense.
Speaker 1: I think one misconception is that the Bills are really
Speaker 1: far away. Maybe they're not. Maybe they're not. This defense
Speaker 1: was number two and standard stats last year and number
Speaker 1: two on Football Outsiders Metrics. They're legit. One more time
Speaker 1: around the horn, Go ahead, mark what you a little
Speaker 1: raging tiny clowns failed to realize. Don't think we didn't notice.
Speaker 1: You didn't even mention all that last time around. I
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes I like to, when it comes to
Speaker 1: a seg that we've discussed for over twenty four hours
Speaker 1: over text, go in and completely get it wrong. And
Speaker 1: that is what I did. Thank you for the ship.
Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to say say it after
Speaker 1: the show privately since it up. That's why I believe
Speaker 1: me bring up these I knew the minute that I
Speaker 1: finished my ridiculous speech the first time around that I
Speaker 1: had failed the basic assignment. Don't think that I didn't
Speaker 1: understand that was on my shoulders. I was a little
Speaker 1: thrown off, all right, that'll be find I think we've
Speaker 1: we've we've hit that topic enough. What you little tiny
Speaker 1: circus clowns don't realize is that there is a contending
Speaker 1: team out there that has already given up on their
Speaker 1: starting quarterback, and they'll go through the masquerade of marching
Speaker 1: them out there as a starter because they don't really
Speaker 1: have much of another of a choice this time around.
Speaker 1: But the Marcus Mariotta experience is over before it begins,
Speaker 1: and I believe, I believe the deep inside team walls,
Speaker 1: in the most secretive rooms in Tennessee, they have already
Speaker 1: decided that Marcus Mariotta's career with the Titans is essentially out.
Speaker 1: It's over, and there is nobody in that on the
Speaker 1: roster right now that's going to replace him. I think
Speaker 1: that Ryan Tannehill was brought in as the dictionary definition
Speaker 1: of of us as a stop gap to come in,
Speaker 1: and probably I think he will start six plus games
Speaker 1: this year. Not because Ryan Tannehill is someone that they're
Speaker 1: going to view as their future quarterback, but they are
Speaker 1: going to absolutely assault free agency or the draft to
Speaker 1: find someone to replace Marcus Mariota, who is not developed
Speaker 1: or grown, whose stats are so far of an outlier
Speaker 1: compared to other quarterbacks. I understand that there's not a
Speaker 1: ton of talent around him, but they have drafted one
Speaker 1: wide receiver after the next. It's not clicked, and at
Speaker 1: some point I look at the quarterback not raising the
Speaker 1: boats found them, and I believe that if you are
Speaker 1: the coach of the Titans or the general manager, your
Speaker 1: assessment has already been made. Barring Mariotta doing something miraculous
Speaker 1: this season, they're moving on already figured it out, by
Speaker 1: the way, because they're not They're gonna be competitive because
Speaker 1: they're not a bad team. They're a team that is
Speaker 1: talented both sides of the ball, and the quarterback play
Speaker 1: is not going to be bad enough uh to sink them.
Speaker 1: So they'll win seven to nine games, that would be
Speaker 1: my prediction for the Titans, UH. But that will not
Speaker 1: help them come draft time. So what they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to do is go to the trade market. Do you
Speaker 1: do you think they win that division? Do they make
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I just I'm just want to follow
Speaker 1: me down this path that they're gonna go and see
Speaker 1: what's on the market, and your quarterback in week one
Speaker 1: will be Derek carran Isn't that mentioning someone from one
Speaker 1: of the band teams, the Oakland Raiders. Give me the helmet,
Speaker 1: Give me the helmet, give me the helmet. I gotta
Speaker 1: eat it. I gotta eat the poops. Sometimes I just
Speaker 1: want to go on record as saying I think that
Speaker 1: your read on this situation is erroneous, both Dan and Mark.
Speaker 1: I don't think that there are people in that building
Speaker 1: who have already moved on. I think they believe in
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariotta, and I think they understand what you Knaves
Speaker 1: might not realize. You're turning it around now him. What
Speaker 1: you might not realize is that Titans went so run
Speaker 1: heavy last year because their wide receiver and tight end
Speaker 1: corep was decimated. There was no Delaney Walker Richard Matthews
Speaker 1: asked for his release at the beginning of the year.
Speaker 1: There was no chain moving slot receiver. So they get
Speaker 1: go out and get Adam Humphreys, they get a J. Brown.
Speaker 1: Delaney Walker's coming back. Now they can evaluate their passing game.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question, Wes. Let's say you
Speaker 1: get another somewhat underwhelming It's not just about numbers, and
Speaker 1: it's it's about the system you're in if you're Mariotta,
Speaker 1: but you get an underwhelming campaign from him, at what
Speaker 1: point do we stop blaming everything around Marcus? Not that
Speaker 1: you're doing this, not in general, everything is there's so
Speaker 1: many excuses made from Marcus Mariotta at this point. Other
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are coming in in year one and making players
Speaker 1: around them better. What I'm saying is this is year
Speaker 1: and I think the people in that building believe that.
Speaker 1: And I do think they believe in Marcus Mariotta. It's
Speaker 1: not to say Marcus Mariotte has lived up to expectations,
Speaker 1: but I think their decision makers like him. I think
Speaker 1: the Mariota the person is so loyal like engenders so
Speaker 1: much loyalty that they do believe in him and that
Speaker 1: they do want the best for him, you know, I
Speaker 1: think they are. That's not how i'd make a quarterback evaluation.
Speaker 1: But he's a good guy. I'm just saying. I think
Speaker 1: I think they're still on his side. They have not
Speaker 1: turned yet. All right, West, that was it? It wasn't there.
Speaker 1: It's it's news. It's a major shift in expectations that
Speaker 1: the Steelers are even allowed in this discussion. And what
Speaker 1: you adults, Dollard's and all around rocks, blocks and stones
Speaker 1: don't understand is that it wasn't melodrama, melodrama or soap
Speaker 1: opera storylines that cost the Steelers their annual playoff appearance
Speaker 1: last year. They are much closer to the two thousand
Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen Chargers. They didn't make the playoffs quite simply
Speaker 1: because their Pro Bowl kicker costs them multiple games, miss
Speaker 1: seven field goals and blew five extra points. And this
Speaker 1: is a playoff roster. It was last year is this year?
Speaker 1: In a division where the Bengals are banged up. The
Speaker 1: Ravens have a raw corner corner quarterback, thank you, Ricky,
Speaker 1: Here you go, Christopher. They project to have a top
Speaker 1: ten offense and defense according to Football Outsiders. Roethlisberger is
Speaker 1: coming off his best qb R since two thousand seven,
Speaker 1: and they have Devin Bush as a defensive rookie the
Speaker 1: year candidate who's already calling the plays on that defense.
Speaker 1: It is funny everyone was in a rush to bury
Speaker 1: the Steelers, and yes they they don't have Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: this year, and that is a big deal. As much
Speaker 1: as everyone loves Jujuic Smith Schuster and this organization's ability
Speaker 1: to um build at the wide receiver position and quickly
Speaker 1: Levian Bell, he wasn't gone. He wasn't there last year. Uh,
Speaker 1: and they still won what they won ten games last year? Right,
Speaker 1: this idea that I mentioned Antonio Brown who's on the Raiders,
Speaker 1: and Bell who's on the Jets. So you really made
Speaker 1: a tougher Dan with this whole like players count thing hard.
Speaker 1: But it's nine six and one. I I stand more
Speaker 1: important to make the point that this team was not
Speaker 1: in some deep decline that that that they had even
Speaker 1: by their bad year standards a lot of years that
Speaker 1: would have gotten the mid to beat the Patriots and
Speaker 1: they and they really could have beat the Saints in
Speaker 1: New Orleans. Oh here you go, Greg, thank you. It's like, right,
Speaker 1: what it's wrong with I'm ashamed, all right. Uh, it's
Speaker 1: a lack of discipline. Amazing the Saints, by the way,
Speaker 1: I can't talk about that on this list, and I
Speaker 1: still didn't that they're not who I'm talking about. But
Speaker 1: I just found that inter oversight al right, close it out, Greg,
Speaker 1: so many options here, say it's that's an oversight. They
Speaker 1: should have been on They should have been on the list,
Speaker 1: should have been right you talking about the Saints plenty, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Saints should have been there on the list for
Speaker 1: the last segment, so be aware. And should fIF teams
Speaker 1: now on the list? I'm having a hard time deciding,
Speaker 1: But let's let's go down to Atlanta, where a lot
Speaker 1: of focus on, Oh, they're going to run the ball
Speaker 1: more this year. That seems like an odd thing considering
Speaker 1: they have Julio Jones and Matt Ryan and they're really
Speaker 1: good at passing the ball, like a lot of things. Oh,
Speaker 1: they have their injured players back that they're gonna be
Speaker 1: fine on defense. But what you paste eating, you know,
Speaker 1: paint paint huffing, clue sniffing crack addicts out there probably
Speaker 1: who don't really talk about, is that they haven't top
Speaker 1: the top twenty in defensive d v o A and
Speaker 1: the entire dan Quinn era, So you can play him
Speaker 1: that on injuries or whatever. They haven't been good on
Speaker 1: defense throughout and dan Quinn is a defensive coach who
Speaker 1: is now their coordinator. And I wanna really bring up
Speaker 1: the fact that Tack McKinley and Vic Beasley, two guys
Speaker 1: who are not injured last year, are the two most
Speaker 1: important players on that defense to me, because they still
Speaker 1: don't have enough of a pass rush in my mind
Speaker 1: without those two guys who ultimately were disappointing. Tack McKinley
Speaker 1: came on a little bit at the end. I thought
Speaker 1: he was gonna be great. Vic Beasley has been really disappointing.
Speaker 1: And that defense, which is supposed to be the Seattle defense,
Speaker 1: it starts with your guys winning matchups up front, and
Speaker 1: Tach McKinley and Vic Beasley, who are some of Thomas
Speaker 1: De Mittrof's, you know, biggest choices and guys that they've
Speaker 1: believed in over the years, have ultimately not kind of
Speaker 1: come through. And I think that defense and maybe that
Speaker 1: team goes as these two guys go, and they were
Speaker 1: not injured a year ago. They just have to be
Speaker 1: better and if not, I think they're gonna get left behind.
Speaker 1: Uh in a division with the Panthers and another team
Speaker 1: which now I can't say, but I could say it
Speaker 1: because I'm wearing the helmet. Anyways, what's the difference. I mean,
Speaker 1: I did realize that, so let's start there. I agree
Speaker 1: with your um macro viewpoint that throughout the dan Quinn
Speaker 1: era defense has not been a strength. They always finished
Speaker 1: strong for some reason, like in December, but that's about it. Well,
Speaker 1: like two thousand seventeen season, you have to admit that
Speaker 1: for the last three months of the season they were
Speaker 1: a top ten defense and a half. They have the
Speaker 1: talent to do it. It's just a matter of staying healthy.
Speaker 1: And like you said, Vick Beasley and Tat McKinley got
Speaker 1: to get after the passer. I mean I remember then
Speaker 1: beating a certain team from Los Angeles in the playoffs
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. Yeah, they've had little stretches. They've had stretches.
Speaker 1: Interesting team put them on the radar. I not feel bad.
Speaker 1: We thought about, you know, all the other I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're a fan of one of the
Speaker 1: teams that you were down to, it was an eighteen
Speaker 1: so one in eighteen got and we go around and
Speaker 1: you talk about six different teams and you still don't
Speaker 1: get the love. I understand why you're disillusioned. While you're
Speaker 1: disappointed right now, I mean, the Chiefs were one of
Speaker 1: those teams that was that's the number one seed in
Speaker 1: the FC year ago. I can't even make that list.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about you, Chiefs in your defense. We'll get
Speaker 1: to you make noise in the season. We imagine you will.
Speaker 1: Second year in a row when I have not committed
Speaker 1: a penalty during this game. Pretty good at It's called
Speaker 1: it's called mental control for Lions fans, but it's really
Speaker 1: not on us. It's on their team to get interesting.
Speaker 1: I mean, just for a month, a month of sustained
Speaker 1: interesting play. We don't need to be tweeting out your
Speaker 1: twelve and four record in preseason game ones. Come on,
Speaker 1: don't do that. Oh yes, what was over over? Over?
Speaker 1: Did they? When I saw the tweet, the tweet where
Speaker 1: you're sending out where the Lions and we're twelve and
Speaker 1: four over the years in the preseason, I get that
Speaker 1: the that's not something that Matt Patricia's sunning off on
Speaker 1: any idea that's happening until after the disaster Obama is struck.
Speaker 1: But isn't there an in house discussion of this is
Speaker 1: a terrible idea and we're going to be made fun
Speaker 1: of for this or is someone just given free rein
Speaker 1: to tweet with twelve and four in our last sixteen
Speaker 1: preseason openers, which is tied with two other teams for
Speaker 1: the best record in that span of preseason It's like,
Speaker 1: we have to what I mean, it's also a way
Speaker 1: overly complex. Funny thing is they're putting stock into the
Speaker 1: most meaningless that ever and it happens right before they
Speaker 1: lose thirty one to three in the preseason opening. After
Speaker 1: the game, I guess, I guess you're not simple potential
Speaker 1: explanation that And hear me out on this that a
Speaker 1: lot of people are working the social media departments, both
Speaker 1: in this building and also throughout the league, maybe be young,
Speaker 1: social minded, you know, finger on the pulse of pop
Speaker 1: culture people more than hardcore football fans. So when they
Speaker 1: get the information packet on the latest from the Lions
Speaker 1: that comes in the house, they see twelve and four
Speaker 1: and the best in whatever. You know. The kids like, hey,
Speaker 1: and it checks out. But like their contract is like
Speaker 1: July through February, that's been there a week that checks out.
Speaker 1: But I would say it's even a softcore football fan
Speaker 1: would would understand that that's a bit nonsensical to be
Speaker 1: touting preseason records. But you know who, no, who knows,
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying. What I'm saying is, let's say
Speaker 1: someone someone creates that content and what it just you
Speaker 1: just shirt out into the universe. There's no there'sn't someone
Speaker 1: that does know what what what should be? Tweeter or
Speaker 1: not saying excuse me, uh, son or daughter, go back
Speaker 1: and do that redo that little tweet gore, but it is,
Speaker 1: it is on al Gore. Let's let's close out the weekend.
Speaker 1: Anybody got big plants. Nick Westling's in town for one
Speaker 1: night only. That's great. I wish I could destroy him
Speaker 1: in cornhole again. That I won't be. I will be.
Speaker 1: My son is turning five, Jack and big party in
Speaker 1: the backyard. And my my beautiful wife, Emily, she is
Speaker 1: it's her birthday tomorrow, so it's it's a big one.
Speaker 1: It's a big one in the hands house. I'll be underground.
Speaker 1: In other words, if you can steal away for a
Speaker 1: little bit the same birthday, uh two days difference. I've
Speaker 1: made a homemade Cincinnati style chile, got some pulled pork.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have all the fixings on. I'm gonna come
Speaker 1: see Nick Ricky come on over. Oh yeah, I'm in there.
Speaker 1: Got me at pulled pork. You're gonna go Yeah, She's like,
Speaker 1: is that going to help my clout? I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I think there might be a Gonzo and Colleen. So
Speaker 1: just too many old these there. I love hanging out
Speaker 1: with you. Yeah, it seems grounded, you know. Before before
Speaker 1: we go, there is one little final bit of news.
Speaker 1: Robertin DJ, the former Cardinals first round pick, was of
Speaker 1: course released by the team that drafted him twenty ninth overall.
Speaker 1: A few years back. He has landed on his feet
Speaker 1: with the Miami Dolphins, who bring him in rehab him
Speaker 1: as he tries to get back from that torn a
Speaker 1: c l hopefully he'll get in better football shape. The
Speaker 1: Dolphins are in the organic fish tank, so he kind
Speaker 1: of makes sense for them as an option. So with
Speaker 1: that mind, good way to go into the weekend, Greg
Speaker 1: is to be a little a time of hope around
Speaker 1: Robert Kndica hit it. They try to crush your dreams.
Speaker 1: The cards dealt you out. But what they did and
Speaker 1: no was the fish tank was down. They say, when
Speaker 1: God closes a door, he oh binds up. Climb back
Speaker 1: in that window, Climb back in that window. In d
Speaker 1: E h climb back in that window, climb back in.
Speaker 1: It's not too high. You see the irony that we
Speaker 1: have here with that whole window met for she is
Speaker 1: the first ballot Hall of Famer, you know. Shall we
Speaker 1: start the show? How about that? So she joined the
Speaker 1: ownership group at a young age. Yeah, Serena, I mean
Speaker 1: the Serena pictures just as well? Does that look like?
Speaker 1: Where do you go? What road is? It's like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: well when when you get to the building, what floor
Speaker 1: is it inside the building? Like, what's what's sort of
Speaker 1: what's the furniture layout in there? What is it lookally?
Speaker 1: What's the Bible? It's very modern and sort of bizarrely modern.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go. All right. It was a delightful
Speaker 1: fourteen minute off off air conversation. Though, time we start
Speaker 1: this thing because we have given over the year that
Speaker 1: we haven't enough. In fact we have we kind of
Speaker 1: switched her with Gloria. I think table table table for now.
Speaker 1: All right? The Reds winnessterday. No, they've got some good
Speaker 1: things going on, but they all of a sudden do
Speaker 1: not have a bullpen worth it? Whoa dar was still good?
Speaker 1: He's hit or miss strikes out a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Nice nice caper note. Yeah, definitely where's the wi that
Speaker 1: though it's a little high. He walks quite a few.
Speaker 1: He gives up backbreaking Homer's. But that seems to be
Speaker 1: most pictures now, especially with the seems lowered. It's hard
Speaker 1: to throw a fork ball and a splitter take it off,
Speaker 1: walks walks in homers. I don't know for the end?
Speaker 1: Why is kid rock twin trending? Um? All right? Now,
Speaker 1: by the way, all you have to start the music,
Speaker 1: and that will help start the music. Don't tell me
Speaker 1: to do my job. She's being part of the bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, are you gonna do? Start the music? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I thought maybe you didn't realize that because
Speaker 1: that will get us in line. It's a good Zeriso impression.
Speaker 1: He went after Taylor Swift. That's why Who. If you
Speaker 1: want some pop, just go after Who. Good rock? Oh
Speaker 1: you kidding me? Trash democrat because she wants to be
Speaker 1: the movies period and it looks like she will suck
Speaker 1: about a phony. That guy was. It was like a
Speaker 1: millionaire trust fund. Baby. You got so much uglier than
Speaker 1: Brett Michaels. They're all ugly, long ass hair, bad boys.
Speaker 1: You're not like that, they think. I hate that man,
Speaker 1: you know what, you should have been around in the eighties.
Speaker 1: I just I like. I like a woman with a
Speaker 1: good looking tattoo, for sure. I find that switch things
Speaker 1: up with dangerous. You got to be in the right spot.
Speaker 1: Can't be too garish, not too big. No, I don't
Speaker 1: mind if it's big as it looks cool. It's hot
Speaker 1: with Greg it's their body, Dan taste, No it's not. No.
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't have a not in the modern client.
Speaker 1: You know you can't. You will admit to what anyone
Speaker 1: pieces of ship it gives you after your years of
Speaker 1: my bread turned on by what the girl does. Gross
Speaker 1: disgusting man, I am you can be. You can do
Speaker 1: it all right. Here we go. We're on. Mike dan
Speaker 1: Is a worthless man.