Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and welcome to stuff. Mom. Never
Speaker 1: told your protection of I R Radios how stuff works.
Speaker 1: That's what I call it cold open. When I surprised
Speaker 1: somebody and just start, just start, and I started laughing,
Speaker 1: like what just happened? Alright, I have no warning. I
Speaker 1: used to do that when I was a producer. And
Speaker 1: I get my finger like way up in the air
Speaker 1: and goes do one. Then I press the button. The panic.
Speaker 1: Get good reactions out of people? You do, We're just
Speaker 1: a giggle, just a giggle until um. So as we
Speaker 1: record this episode, I as Amantha. We have just wrapped
Speaker 1: up Dragon Con, which I call my biggest party of
Speaker 1: the year, and it is a five day marathon. Legit,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's just a marathon. It was
Speaker 1: like a sprint for five days long because it was
Speaker 1: not slow rolling. It's a sprint slat, it's a sprinting marathon.
Speaker 1: There's no sleep, I think on average this year I
Speaker 1: got I got three or four hours a night, which
Speaker 1: actually isn't that different from the normal for me. But
Speaker 1: it's still like you add in the walking and the
Speaker 1: drinking all day and the costumes and just the stimulation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a lot. I had to have a three
Speaker 1: day recovery, and I actually only stayed out with you
Speaker 1: one night out of the three days that I attended,
Speaker 1: Like I was there during the day. Well actually one
Speaker 1: day I didn't see you at all, but I got
Speaker 1: to see a lot about But the one night I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll stay out with you. I think I stayed out
Speaker 1: with you one night till eleven, and the next time
Speaker 1: I was like I should still the three actually with
Speaker 1: the waffle house. That's how we did um and I've
Speaker 1: discovered after you know, my life in the department Family
Speaker 1: and Children's Services, I can't do that anymore, Like I
Speaker 1: can't do all nighters. It also got sick and apparently
Speaker 1: that's the thing that happens because all the Germany people
Speaker 1: that want to high five me and a stupid people
Speaker 1: in that one space, stupid milk. Yeah, let me give
Speaker 1: you a high five. I'm cool. I'm not cool, and
Speaker 1: I'll never do again. Don't touch me next year, if
Speaker 1: you've come, you should go as then I think I'll
Speaker 1: just be unhappy. How about that. No, No, I'm like,
Speaker 1: this year was my first year and it was overwhelming,
Speaker 1: and I'm like I was I was not prepared, not
Speaker 1: no matter how much you told me. I've been to
Speaker 1: the parade, still was not prepared. I watched the entire
Speaker 1: parade with our boss next to me and didn't realized
Speaker 1: until the very end, and I was racking my brain
Speaker 1: frantically for what was I saying, Well, okay, maybe that's
Speaker 1: why I had a distinct voice, and we were right
Speaker 1: next we were actually touching arms. I'm sure it was like,
Speaker 1: also very loud. He doesn't listen to this, he definitely doesn't.
Speaker 1: And then you get an email. But yeah, that was interesting. Yes,
Speaker 1: well I hope you had it some amount of fun.
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, I was very entertained, and
Speaker 1: we had this whole plan that I was going to
Speaker 1: go and a few people. I got one interview by
Speaker 1: the way interview people and talked to women and heap
Speaker 1: itally that did not happen. I was trying to figure
Speaker 1: out how not to be touched fair and how to
Speaker 1: hide away like and don't get me wrong, when I
Speaker 1: finally found a spot where I could just sit and
Speaker 1: say it, it was wonderful to watch and and see
Speaker 1: so many people having so much fun being creative, but
Speaker 1: trying to navigate myself out of that situation. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: a lot of I had a really good time this year,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people will be like, wow, look
Speaker 1: at you, You're so drunk, and I'm like, no, I'm
Speaker 1: just really happy, Like like even in the morning before
Speaker 1: you've been an alcohol you were definitely smiley. I was
Speaker 1: having a great time, and I did. I only counted,
Speaker 1: in my personal experience, two creepers, which is pretty good.
Speaker 1: I know I heard from other friends about other creepers,
Speaker 1: but in my experience, you actually missed. Right after you
Speaker 1: left that night, you stayed till three am. We went
Speaker 1: to a different party. What part did you go to?
Speaker 1: Oh did you go to the big one party? I
Speaker 1: was thinking about it, but I'm like, I need a
Speaker 1: food and that that last party we went to the
Speaker 1: last party on all round, it wasn't great. No, they
Speaker 1: often aren't. No offense to anyone who organizes them. It's
Speaker 1: just the nature of having a bunch of nerds. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and like I'm not a big Edian fan. Yeah, although
Speaker 1: my friend Joe took some really great videos the dance circle.
Speaker 1: There was one of is it um Harlequinn comic character.
Speaker 1: She's dancing and you see Jesus with his rainbow. It
Speaker 1: was Jesus, well, gay Jesus when he that one dude
Speaker 1: fell over and he got over Gay Jesus got over him,
Speaker 1: like rose him from the dead. That was awesome. And
Speaker 1: that was when you disappeared. Were like, I don't know
Speaker 1: where any wins. I was just bopping about. I was
Speaker 1: still there. You were dancing terribly, but I was dancing.
Speaker 1: I was I was living my best life. But this
Speaker 1: whole episode isn't gonna be a recap on Giant Con.
Speaker 1: It's about sleep because there was none to be had
Speaker 1: at Dragon Con. And I personally have so much trouble sleeping,
Speaker 1: and it is probably one of the biggest drivers of
Speaker 1: my life of like the trouble I get into, the
Speaker 1: way I behave, um, the amount of thought I put
Speaker 1: into how am I going to sleep tonight. I don't
Speaker 1: even want to calculate how much I dedicate to that.
Speaker 1: It actually depresses me. I've tried all the tricks. I
Speaker 1: stopped looking at my phone around nine pm. Not always,
Speaker 1: but most nights. I do stretches. I count by odd
Speaker 1: numbers and I've gotten up to three thousands something. And
Speaker 1: before I said, you know, this isn't working for me.
Speaker 1: I've tried various medications, no caffeine, no alcohol, um, and
Speaker 1: I have the exact opposite schedule most people expects, and
Speaker 1: that I usually fall asleep around eleven PM. But then
Speaker 1: I'm up by one am, and I maybe fall back
Speaker 1: to sleep around five am and get up at seven am.
Speaker 1: It's pretty miserable. Yeah, and you am my friend, uh,
Speaker 1: my other coworker, she's the same way because she'll go
Speaker 1: to bit about nine or ten, wake up about to
Speaker 1: stay up and stay up. And I'm just going, how
Speaker 1: do you function like that? I I almost die if
Speaker 1: I don't get at least six hours and that I'm
Speaker 1: still struggling. But I do have that sweet spot. If
Speaker 1: I get too much sleep, I'm done, so I have
Speaker 1: to stop. Yeah, there's like a it's a weird window.
Speaker 1: So I get too little, I'm a mess. If I
Speaker 1: get too much, I'm just so much of a mess.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't have that struggle that And I'm like,
Speaker 1: and I'm in awe that you guys are standing and
Speaker 1: as tipper as you are. It's something I've had to
Speaker 1: learn that people need sleep more than I do, and
Speaker 1: people need food more than I do. And this is
Speaker 1: just a stage because I've been the opposite. That was
Speaker 1: true because there was dragon Con at one point, I
Speaker 1: think it was me and your other friend Katie. Both
Speaker 1: of those were like, I'm hungry. They don't eat, do they.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to stop them because I need food. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that that actually are our last night at dragon Con.
Speaker 1: That you you were sick by this point, but um,
Speaker 1: we had a wonderful time. But um, I wasn't intending
Speaker 1: on getting food, and they then didn't and they got
Speaker 1: very very drunk, very drunk, and I was like, maybe
Speaker 1: we should get some pizza because I was, Oh, I'm
Speaker 1: old enough to know my limits and I enjoy food
Speaker 1: way too much. No, that's good, and I'm like, um,
Speaker 1: if I don't do this, these are the things I'm
Speaker 1: going to regret later. That is what I've had to
Speaker 1: I had to grow. Um, But I did have I
Speaker 1: used to have the inverse problem with this whole thing,
Speaker 1: where I slept essentially all day when given the option,
Speaker 1: and I struggled to get out of bed. There was
Speaker 1: even discussion from my doctor that I might have chronic
Speaker 1: fatigue syndrome. It was very bad. Um and We've talked
Speaker 1: about before and past episodes about how sleep is a privilege. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: when you have multiple jobs, kids, no cars, for example,
Speaker 1: you're not going to be getting much and disclamor. The
Speaker 1: science of sleep is very incomplete and very much ongoing,
Speaker 1: and as per usual, a lot of studies until recently
Speaker 1: only looked at men. In the Food and Drug Administration,
Speaker 1: the FDA released the first sex specific guidelines for a
Speaker 1: drug ever, and it was for ambient after it was
Speaker 1: discovered women metabolized the medication more slowly than men do,
Speaker 1: so lots of work to be done, but to start
Speaker 1: with sleep is incredibly important. It impacts physical and mental
Speaker 1: health as well as a job performance and social and
Speaker 1: family life. Sleep deprivation actually shrinks part of our brains
Speaker 1: and leads to poor decision making, difficulty forming new memories
Speaker 1: and controlling emotions, and risk evaluation. It takes up more
Speaker 1: of our time than any other activity. But only thirty
Speaker 1: percent of Americans are getting the recommended amount of sleep,
Speaker 1: and forty million Americans struggle with sleep disorders. And it
Speaker 1: affects women more than men. And actually this has affected
Speaker 1: people in driving. Yeah, there's it's been a big cause
Speaker 1: of death for um, that very reason, lack of sleep
Speaker 1: and sleep deprivation. I know we talked about that has
Speaker 1: been talked about with like truck drivers and such and
Speaker 1: how dangerous it is. Remember being without sleep and feeling
Speaker 1: like I was drunk. Well that in the MythBusters have done.
Speaker 1: They remember they did an episode where they compared drunk
Speaker 1: driving to write sleep deprivation while driving, and they found
Speaker 1: that they were equally bad. Don't do either right or
Speaker 1: not saying please get an uber yes, um, And I
Speaker 1: know like with some train accidents we've had, this has
Speaker 1: come up because of the lack of sleeping. Okay, for
Speaker 1: some quick comparison between sexes, more than a quarter of
Speaker 1: women while men sleep talk. Oh I do that, um sixty.
Speaker 1: I used to speak Korean too. Yeah, it's weird people,
Speaker 1: That's what people say. They're like, I don't know what
Speaker 1: language you're speaking. Maybe it's just mumbles. I don't know. Uh.
Speaker 1: Sixty percent more women six than men, which is only
Speaker 1: ten percent have night terrors. And of course the whole
Speaker 1: ordeal of keeping up with the current needs jobs children
Speaker 1: all that that's differentiates between male and female as well.
Speaker 1: And these are modern times, working late or odd hours
Speaker 1: is more common than ever, whether it's the gig economy
Speaker 1: or people working in international markets. Um we're more regularly
Speaker 1: having irregular sleep and are more likely to make poorer
Speaker 1: decisions because of it. According to the National Sleep Foundation,
Speaker 1: the average person needs seven to nine hours of sleep,
Speaker 1: but the average woman aged thirty to six he only
Speaker 1: gets six and a half hours. During the work week.
Speaker 1: Nearly one and two women wake up not feeling well
Speaker 1: rested four times are more a week. One report found
Speaker 1: some studies find women's sleep more than men, but the
Speaker 1: quality of men's sleep is better. Some male respondents reported
Speaker 1: feeling childish for having a quote bedtime, whereas more women
Speaker 1: reported being aware of the health benefits of getting a
Speaker 1: good night's sleep. Some researchers suspect that a fear being
Speaker 1: seen as less masculine leads men to report artificially lower
Speaker 1: sleep times. Wow So a month long study found that
Speaker 1: women's circadian cycles, the system that naturally governs sleeping and
Speaker 1: waking times, are earlier than men's, meaning we typically fall
Speaker 1: asleep earlier, but we also a wake earlier, and it
Speaker 1: still takes us longer to fall asleep. Postman apausal, women
Speaker 1: reported more difficulties sleeping than pre menopausal women. Amount of
Speaker 1: sleep isn't the only thing that matters either. The quality
Speaker 1: of sleep, like we mentioned before, is very important as well,
Speaker 1: and for women things like mischell cycle, pregnancy, and menopause
Speaker 1: can impact that and some other things that can impact quality.
Speaker 1: A two thousand and two pole found that sixty of
Speaker 1: women reported experiencing insomnia at least a couple of times
Speaker 1: a week, compared to fifty percent of men. Now, I'm
Speaker 1: really glad I looked this up because I thought insomnia
Speaker 1: probably because of that movie with Alpacida or whoever was
Speaker 1: in it, Robbert maybe, but I thought it meant you
Speaker 1: never slept, Oh never, No. Um. It just can encompass
Speaker 1: everything from trouble falling asleep, staying asleep, um, waking up
Speaker 1: to early and not being able to go back to sleep.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of different things. Apart from the biological
Speaker 1: factors we mentioned, there are possible treatable root causes to this,
Speaker 1: like anxiety or depression. Chronic sleep deprivation can also lead
Speaker 1: to our contribute to depression, especially for young women. One
Speaker 1: study found that women are more likely to suffer from
Speaker 1: nocturnal sleep related eating disorders or in s R e D.
Speaker 1: This is when you eat at night when you appear
Speaker 1: to be asleep. More women than men report restless leg syndrome,
Speaker 1: and researchers think asleep apnea is underdiagnosed in women, which
Speaker 1: is thought to be more common in men, although the
Speaker 1: number of women experiencing it does go up after menopause,
Speaker 1: and one reason it might be underdiagnosed is again, it's
Speaker 1: never really been studied in women, and doctors are learning
Speaker 1: the symptoms present differently. This is frightening because sleep apnea
Speaker 1: is more likely to cause heart failure and death in women.
Speaker 1: Another study found that fifty eight percent of women reported
Speaker 1: experiencing pain during the night compared to the forty eight
Speaker 1: percent of men. Among shift workers, and these are people
Speaker 1: who work nontraditional hours, women experienced more disrupted sleep compared
Speaker 1: to men. A study found that over a three year period,
Speaker 1: female shift workers had a sixty higher risk of developing
Speaker 1: breast cancer. They also frequently report irregular periods, more difficulty
Speaker 1: getting pregnant, and more miscarriages. Also, women are more at
Speaker 1: risk of developing other health problems from sleep deprivation to
Speaker 1: like type two diabetes, hypertension, and heart disease. Artificial white
Speaker 1: present in the room when trying to sleep like a
Speaker 1: television has been associated with weight gain in women. Male
Speaker 1: storing is more likely than female snoring to lead partners
Speaker 1: going to go into sleep in different bedrooms. My grandmother
Speaker 1: used to snore so loudly that my grandfather would go
Speaker 1: to sleep an hour earlier than her to try to
Speaker 1: fall asleep before she did. My mother, somehow can sleep
Speaker 1: with my father and I could hear my father. They're
Speaker 1: in like downstairs to the corner room, and I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: how it can be really impressive. It is really impressive.
Speaker 1: Apparently it's also a comfort thing to now for my
Speaker 1: mom and she doesn't sleep as well without it. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's super weird to me. I'm like, this would drive
Speaker 1: me crazy and I'm going to kick someone out of bed.
Speaker 1: This that reminds me of the quote from Scrubs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now I can't. I used to hate it her snoring,
Speaker 1: and now I can't sleep without um. Since a lot
Speaker 1: of you love dog, yep, I thought i'd include this.
Speaker 1: A recent study found women sleep better next to dogs
Speaker 1: than their partners, and something this has to do with
Speaker 1: the schedule. Having a dog keeps you on, like getting
Speaker 1: up to feed it or walk it. Um, my dog
Speaker 1: busy spelled with an e y because I was being
Speaker 1: all all about myself like it. Um. She slept in
Speaker 1: my bed when I was a kid, and it did
Speaker 1: not help me sleep. But I had a twin bed
Speaker 1: and she was a big dog. Some nights I slept
Speaker 1: on the floor. Wow. But I did love her and
Speaker 1: she was my dogs and my parents were like, she
Speaker 1: if she usually been in a bed, usually in your bed.
Speaker 1: That's fair. And I actually prefer my dog just to
Speaker 1: sleep with me as well. I think it's just that
Speaker 1: comfort of knowing someone's on that bed. But she is
Speaker 1: also the worst when she decides that she wants to
Speaker 1: move around the middle of the night, and I can
Speaker 1: fill every bounce. Yeah. Um, I try to cuddle her.
Speaker 1: She's a hot dog. She doesn't like me touching her,
Speaker 1: but I like it. Peaches, you're just gonna have to
Speaker 1: do I tell her that a lot. I'm like, you're
Speaker 1: my dog, I feed you, you have to let me
Speaker 1: hold you. That's just how it is. Sleep deparation causes
Speaker 1: an increase in risky behavior in men and a decrease
Speaker 1: in women, both of which can be bad. Actually depending
Speaker 1: on the situation. So they were looking in particular at um, like,
Speaker 1: if you're working like the stock market, maybe, um. Either
Speaker 1: one could be bad because if you're unwilling to take
Speaker 1: the risk that you normally would, you could lose out
Speaker 1: on something potentially really good. But then on the flip
Speaker 1: side of it, if you're taking more risks than new
Speaker 1: normal would, that could also be bad. Um. Also, after
Speaker 1: losing sleep, women become more selfish than men. I'm just
Speaker 1: wondering if it's being selfish, is just actually caring for yourself? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would, I would be interested to know. More science
Speaker 1: is needed, but right now an ad break is needed.
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Speaker 1: all right. So, on top of all these things we've
Speaker 1: been talking about recent studies, do you suggest that women
Speaker 1: need more sleep than men about twenty minutes more And
Speaker 1: they think the researchers think that this is because on average,
Speaker 1: women use more mental energy multitasking throughout the day, and
Speaker 1: on top of that, sleep deprivation hits women harder than men.
Speaker 1: Going back to shift workers, some scientists speculate this is
Speaker 1: why female night shifters are more likely to get injured
Speaker 1: on the job, and that it impacts cognitive ability of
Speaker 1: teenage girls more than when compared to teenage boys. Other
Speaker 1: studies found mixed results, instead, concluding that women perform better
Speaker 1: while dealing with mild keyword mild sleep deprivation. They also
Speaker 1: bounced back after a restorative sleep to a much higher
Speaker 1: degree than men did, but the difference maybe in the
Speaker 1: level and frequency of sleep deprivation. And another study found
Speaker 1: that all nighters had a more adverse impact on women.
Speaker 1: The authors of that one were quick to emphasize that
Speaker 1: more research was needed and that their study example was
Speaker 1: really small. Yeah. Another study we wanted to I meagine
Speaker 1: found that sleep deprived men were more likely to perceive
Speaker 1: interest and sexual interest from women. Scientists think this could
Speaker 1: lead to making sexual decisions you may later regret, and
Speaker 1: outcomes like sexual harassment, unplanned pregnancies, and st eyes. I
Speaker 1: feel like, when I'm tired, I think no one is
Speaker 1: interested in me. I think when I'm tired of just
Speaker 1: don't touch me. So therefore this way, don't interact. I
Speaker 1: don't have the energy, right, Like, let's not talk, let's
Speaker 1: not touched, let's not look at each other. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: can't imagine. I don't think I've ever perceived more interest
Speaker 1: when I was tired. Ever, almost three out of ten
Speaker 1: women report using some sort of sleep aid a couple
Speaker 1: of times of week. So why do women struggle more
Speaker 1: with getting a good night's rest as compared to men.
Speaker 1: Researchers aren't sure, but they suspect it's a combination of
Speaker 1: hormones and societal expectations that we place on women and
Speaker 1: women place on themselves who are more often caregivers both
Speaker 1: of children and aging guardians, um doing more housework on
Speaker 1: top of having a job, higher overall levels of stress
Speaker 1: in general. Some of it goes back to the stuff
Speaker 1: we talked to out in our Impossible Goals episode. So these, yeah,
Speaker 1: these high expectations, were always thinking what else I gotta
Speaker 1: go do this, I gotta go do this, I gotta
Speaker 1: do this, and it's really hard to sleep. I can
Speaker 1: speak from experience. When your brain is thinking of all
Speaker 1: the things you could be doing and in your in
Speaker 1: your mind should be doing what you're not doing exactly,
Speaker 1: it seems like a waste when I have all of
Speaker 1: this stuff to do. I really had to try to
Speaker 1: reframe how I viewed sleep, because I saw it as
Speaker 1: a waste it's definitely not a waste. Yeah, I've done
Speaker 1: that too, but um so. In two thousand and eighteen,
Speaker 1: the American Time You Survey found that women are working
Speaker 1: longer hours at the expense of their social lives, relaxation time,
Speaker 1: and sleep, and on average, men reported having an hour
Speaker 1: more downtime than women. Both men and women reported sleeping
Speaker 1: less than just about ever since we started keeping check
Speaker 1: of that sort of thing. Yeah, pretty much of all
Speaker 1: historical records, we were at a historic low when it
Speaker 1: comes to how much sleep we're getting. I wonder if
Speaker 1: part of that is because now we can actually track
Speaker 1: it with all of our little fitness apps and much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. I wonder how they it was probably self reported.
Speaker 1: They've been keeping this data for a long time, but
Speaker 1: I'm sure it was self reported, and that there's always
Speaker 1: an issue with reliability when it comes to that. And
Speaker 1: then at the same time, the watches and all of
Speaker 1: those bit business such. I know they actually try. I
Speaker 1: don't know how calculate deep sleep versus you know, all
Speaker 1: of those types of things, and I wonder if that
Speaker 1: causes a different level. I feel like that would stress
Speaker 1: me out. I used to treat sleep is like Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go or going to sleep now, and then
Speaker 1: it wouldn't happen. I'd be so mad at myself. I
Speaker 1: feel like if I had one of those watches, i'd
Speaker 1: just be stressed. Right. I had one for a little while,
Speaker 1: but I think it was pretty inaccurate, so I didn't
Speaker 1: clean to it too much. But I would wake up
Speaker 1: and like, yeah, that makes sense. I don't know about
Speaker 1: that one. Like depending on or not rather than gender,
Speaker 1: work hours both paid and unpaid, and changes in life
Speaker 1: stages from childbirds, menopause seemed to have the most impact
Speaker 1: on men when it comes to changes in sleep. The
Speaker 1: consensus as of now again is men's blessed, but better
Speaker 1: and not by drastically much less than women, who have
Speaker 1: a much bigger gap when it comes to lack of
Speaker 1: leisure time and interrupted sleep due to some type of caregiving.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I was hoping that I would
Speaker 1: come out of this with the answer. Research was research.
Speaker 1: We do have some tips, but first we have one
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Speaker 1: with tips. But I would love if listeners could send
Speaker 1: in their tips. So the ones I found, the big
Speaker 1: ones were having a regular bed and wake time like
Speaker 1: two children. Um, I feel like, I see, I'm already
Speaker 1: getting frustrated because I feel like I do all of
Speaker 1: this stuff right. But anyway, okay, doing that not doing
Speaker 1: anything outside of sleep in your bed. So this is
Speaker 1: what I've struggled with, because if I wake up at
Speaker 1: one am, I have the thought maybe maybe maybe I'll
Speaker 1: fall back asleep. But according to most things I read,
Speaker 1: I should just get out of bed and wait until
Speaker 1: I get tired again and then get back in bed
Speaker 1: and track. So those are some exercising in the morning. Again,
Speaker 1: I do that. So I found for me sometimes meditation works.
Speaker 1: I used to sleep meditation app sometimes it does the
Speaker 1: real lifelation of the body type of thing. Um or
Speaker 1: if you're like me, I love naps, but because it
Speaker 1: does disrupt my actual being able to fall asleep, I've
Speaker 1: done less, and actually I've had a harder time in
Speaker 1: waking up within like a thirty minute span. It ends
Speaker 1: up being like a three hour nap. So I can't
Speaker 1: do that anymore. Maybe taking a real laxing bath before
Speaker 1: or maybe a warm shower with a little lavender you
Speaker 1: have you seen those um sent things that you can
Speaker 1: put in your shower and heats up. Maybe that'll help, um,
Speaker 1: if you can afford it. Get the mattress you're using,
Speaker 1: and for me, I need a new mattress for sure.
Speaker 1: I was really hoping that would get up for you. One.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie ship make comes a man. I'm
Speaker 1: still waiting such a spoiled thing to say. But yeah,
Speaker 1: like that actually does affect you a lot. And I
Speaker 1: was thinking about like old school adages that like you're
Speaker 1: talking about counting, you're supposed to count odd numbers because
Speaker 1: even numbers is too easy. It needs to be something
Speaker 1: slightly so your mind can't wander. I feel like that's
Speaker 1: too much, Like I would concentrate too hard and get
Speaker 1: frustrated if I can messed up. Well, that's you. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's fair. Um. And then like the warm milk type
Speaker 1: of thing, Yeah, Coco getting in reading. Yeah, I've heard
Speaker 1: um reading is a good one. And then the room temperature,
Speaker 1: if you can keep it around like six I think
Speaker 1: degrees fahrenheit. Um, that's a rich person number, is it?
Speaker 1: My My My place is definitely not that. Maybe that's
Speaker 1: in the summer sleeps and that's a Georgia risk person number.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised when I saw it. I was just like,
Speaker 1: really because I like it cool. Oh yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's the number though. UM. And then less caffeine and
Speaker 1: or alcohol. So I stopped drinking caffeine at noon now.
Speaker 1: I used to go to two because I've heard it's
Speaker 1: three pm because they cut off, but I have I
Speaker 1: stop at noon now. If you can't afford it, if
Speaker 1: it is a big problem in your life, you can
Speaker 1: go see a professional who might be able to prescribe
Speaker 1: medication or cognitive behavioral therapy. Keeping a sleep diary, UM,
Speaker 1: so if you notice any patterns this night I slept, well,
Speaker 1: what did you do that day? I know people also
Speaker 1: talk about melotonin UM. I say that cautiously because there
Speaker 1: are a lot of unknowns to that UM and then
Speaker 1: there's different forms and it helps some people, it doesn't
Speaker 1: help some may people. For me, I actually do like it.
Speaker 1: I like the little chocolate one and they're like, I
Speaker 1: mean it's really miniscule because they're one per thing, so
Speaker 1: you can measure out how much you want, how little
Speaker 1: do you want? UM? But I don't know. I know
Speaker 1: it has been used for many of our adolescents instead
Speaker 1: of trying to prescribe them some kind of actual medication. Medication.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and I have friends who swear by sleepy
Speaker 1: time to eat. Yeah, I used to love that stuff,
Speaker 1: not because it makes me sleepy, because I just love
Speaker 1: the taste of it. I unfortunately am. I don't think
Speaker 1: I'm allergic, but I can't drink tea tea at all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I will feel miserable. Interesting Yeah, t and mint? Any
Speaker 1: about the mint and all types of other things. I
Speaker 1: don't want to reveal all my other allergies. I don't
Speaker 1: know why I'm suspicious that someone's gonna I immediately very concerned. WHOA, Well,
Speaker 1: this is being very good insight in your life. I
Speaker 1: feel like I've revealed a lot about myself it. Maybe
Speaker 1: I'm sleep more sleep but in the meantime, Yes, please listeners,
Speaker 1: If you have any tips, are experience in sleeping, or
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