Speaker 1: On the Bedel Cast, the questions asked if movies have
Speaker 1: women in them, are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands,
Speaker 1: or do they have individualism? The patriarchy ze in best
Speaker 1: start changing it with the Becktel Cast. Hello and welcome
Speaker 1: to the Bechtel Cast. My name is Caitlin, my name
Speaker 1: is Jamie, and we're here to talk about movies. But
Speaker 1: what about in movies? Were Well, did we already mess
Speaker 1: it up? I think that there's like a ten second
Speaker 1: threshold long it takes for one of us to speak
Speaker 1: in an unintelligible fragment, just really derail it. We talked,
Speaker 1: We talked about women in movies, women as women, women women.
Speaker 1: This podcast is inspired by the Bechtel test, which requires
Speaker 1: that a movie has two women characters in it that
Speaker 1: talked to each other about something other than a man.
Speaker 1: Someday I want to play a prank and say that
Speaker 1: the Bechtel test was invented by Mr Joseph Bechtel has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with women at all. That would be
Speaker 1: a hilarious joke. Can we say we got iced? We
Speaker 1: got iced? For those of you who don't know what
Speaker 1: being iced is, which is probably everybody Jesus Christ. I'm like,
Speaker 1: first of all, I feel attacked. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: This is, uh, you know, an assault on all my senses.
Speaker 1: I if you are listening and you have been iced,
Speaker 1: please reach out to me. Let's let's meet at Hamburger Phone.
Speaker 1: You can come to my house. We'll just have a
Speaker 1: conversation and then at some point I'll ice you. If
Speaker 1: you don't know what being iced is in this context,
Speaker 1: it's when someone presents you with a smear knof ice,
Speaker 1: taking you by surprise, and and then you have to,
Speaker 1: I guess, get done on one knee and then chug
Speaker 1: the smear knof ice. Yes, there's a there's like a
Speaker 1: lot of pomp and circumstance surrounding me. I essentially it's
Speaker 1: moving a lot of product for the Smirknov company. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's been practiced in at least five years. Besides,
Speaker 1: before today, it seems to be a very regional potentially
Speaker 1: just New England ten and eleven. Apparently that's the last
Speaker 1: time I saw it. Anyway, Um Aristotle, our producer, he
Speaker 1: iced us because we were talking about it last week
Speaker 1: and he hate we are now Jamie and I are
Speaker 1: both drinking smearoff ices. Well you finished yours. You actually,
Speaker 1: I was iced the way you're supposed to. And I'm
Speaker 1: a little baby and I can't chug anything, so I'm
Speaker 1: still drinking. I have my signature, Mike's Harder lemonade, my
Speaker 1: my white trap, my ode to white trash. Every week,
Speaker 1: take a Mike's Hard to the face. Well gross, wait, no,
Speaker 1: that's my dad's name. I need, I need to go home.
Speaker 1: Well let's not do that. Let's instead introduce our guests
Speaker 1: this week. Okay, good intro though, Yes, that was it
Speaker 1: turned It started out pretty rocky, took a turn for
Speaker 1: the better. I ended with my dad's hard dick. Anyway,
Speaker 1: our guest she she just found out that she's going
Speaker 1: to be a series regular on HBO's Insecure. She also
Speaker 1: produces a live comedy show at nerd Melt called Smart,
Speaker 1: Funny and Black the first Tuesday of every month, and
Speaker 1: she's a very funny comedian. Amanda Seals, Thanks for being here,
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. Oh my god, this is like
Speaker 1: R and B one am exactly. Yeah. Can you stand
Speaker 1: the rain? Can you stand the rain? Mike's That's where,
Speaker 1: that's where my dad when he's making love this and
Speaker 1: it's kill me. Do you think that people only say
Speaker 1: making love in the Pacific Northwest? That's my theory. It
Speaker 1: seems like a very Pacific Northwest thing to do. I
Speaker 1: think it's pretty uh widespread. Yeah, people make western I
Speaker 1: think they make love everywhere. Gross. All right, well I
Speaker 1: just did not happen here. You've got no argument for
Speaker 1: me that no one's ever said that to me. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: once someone said it to me, I was like, I
Speaker 1: need to go some I need to go somewhere else.
Speaker 1: Don't say but like making love to me, it has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with sex. Like if we're gonna make love,
Speaker 1: that means that we're going to like put a puzzle
Speaker 1: together and drink hocko, because that's love, like something that
Speaker 1: you don't totally want to do, Like you're gonna watch
Speaker 1: me do a full interpretive dance to the intro music
Speaker 1: to Harry Potter and still like me after. If someone
Speaker 1: I'm dating comes to a show I'm on, that to
Speaker 1: me is closer to making love than fucking yeah, because
Speaker 1: that is inconvenient, very easy to get a man to
Speaker 1: have sex with you. It's very hard to get them
Speaker 1: to come to your comedy show. I had a guy
Speaker 1: tell me on vale Time's Day that he was tired
Speaker 1: from meetings and so he could not come to my
Speaker 1: one woman show. He was too tired to watch me
Speaker 1: perform for an hour and a half by myself, which
Speaker 1: tiring by the way he and he even put in
Speaker 1: the text the hustle is real gross no yeah, with
Speaker 1: two exclamation points, no is he and then you made
Speaker 1: love to him later that night. My version of me,
Speaker 1: I don't know what my version of making love would be.
Speaker 1: It would be like I don't know, Like, I mean,
Speaker 1: that was real what you said about them coming to
Speaker 1: a show, Like that's you're making love. I mean it
Speaker 1: would be like being quiet for a little while, just
Speaker 1: like you woman not talked for five minutes. This is
Speaker 1: how I make love? Oh you're saying, Like what your
Speaker 1: version of making love to someone else would be? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Like stuff I would be like inconvenienced, Yeah, sports related endeavors.
Speaker 1: I would consider make love on my part. For me,
Speaker 1: I think it would be like having them lure some
Speaker 1: feelings out of me, like having me express some some
Speaker 1: feelings which I don't usually like to talk. It would
Speaker 1: be like stop talking about your feelings, right, that's way
Speaker 1: for cancer feelings. I'm a leo. I'm very and I'm
Speaker 1: just like, like I have feelings. They are important, So
Speaker 1: I'm in charge and people love it, love it. Hey,
Speaker 1: should we talk about the movie? I don't know. Well,
Speaker 1: the Making Love combo is a good segue for the movie.
Speaker 1: That's true, pretty good. The movie that we're here to
Speaker 1: talk about today is Coming to America, which I think
Speaker 1: you said is your favorite movie of all time. So
Speaker 1: you grew up with it. When was the first time
Speaker 1: you saw it? When is the first time I come
Speaker 1: into America? I honestly don't even know, because, yeah, I
Speaker 1: was too young to see it in the theater, but
Speaker 1: I definitely had it on VHS. I'm pretty sure I
Speaker 1: saw it when I was eight, because back then it
Speaker 1: took a year for something to come from the theater
Speaker 1: to a beach. Which, by the way, I was trying
Speaker 1: to go see Mo Wanna and they're like, that's on DVD. Now,
Speaker 1: what are you trying to go to the theater? Or
Speaker 1: like it's just hadding like November. Yes, that's weird, that's
Speaker 1: too that's too fast. I literally was like, I finally
Speaker 1: have time to go see Milana and then I saw
Speaker 1: commercial that I could just stay just have it. So
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it so much, you love it.
Speaker 1: That's that's a large expression of feelings. You just made
Speaker 1: love to my love, all right. That makes you feel
Speaker 1: good about it. Seeing seeing that sixteen year old the
Speaker 1: voice of mo Wanna saying at the Oscars, I was like,
Speaker 1: maybe I could I canna do that? Yeah? Is that
Speaker 1: like a formal princess movie? Not that I see what
Speaker 1: is like this? She is it a princess like with
Speaker 1: the dress joining the France track? Yeah, I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: sure they'll try to poison like that. But this movie
Speaker 1: is quite unique in terms of Disney. This film is
Speaker 1: quite unique. Kaitlin has to wait. We always forget to
Speaker 1: say this. Well, I don't like to mention it, but
Speaker 1: I do have a master's degree in screenwriting. I hate
Speaker 1: bringing it up. You don't like to talk about We're
Speaker 1: pulling it out of here. I feel sick. It could
Speaker 1: be the smearnock fights that you just chugged that No,
Speaker 1: that went down easy, like like my sweet nectar. I'm
Speaker 1: going to Chucky Cheese after this to see how many,
Speaker 1: how much they'll serve me. I'm going to there. You
Speaker 1: said there's a to drink limit in theory. I feel
Speaker 1: like it will not be hard. It's going to be packed.
Speaker 1: It's Friday night. It's Friday night night. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Chucky cheese. Anyway, So Coming to America. I had seen
Speaker 1: it before, I want to say, like maybe five years ago,
Speaker 1: so I wasn't that familiar with it. I had just
Speaker 1: seen it that once. Um, Jamie, and you've seen it before,
Speaker 1: I had not. You all are so white. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: That was like the whitest sentence I heard today from
Speaker 1: both of you, but like literally black person listening just
Speaker 1: gasped that you've never seen Coming to America, only because
Speaker 1: it is on all the time. And it's one of
Speaker 1: those movies that like if I if I'm skipping channels
Speaker 1: and I see it on, I have you have to.
Speaker 1: I have to stop and watch it, Like I can't
Speaker 1: not watch it. I know that it was one of
Speaker 1: my dad's favorite movies, and we had it. First of all,
Speaker 1: my dad's name is Mike. Uh yeah, shout out to
Speaker 1: my dad's girlfriend, whose name is Lisa great sway back
Speaker 1: to Oh My Night to the movie. But we had
Speaker 1: it on VHS and then I think by the time
Speaker 1: I was old enough to watch it, we no longer
Speaker 1: had a VHS, so I just never saw it. But
Speaker 1: I loved it. It's so good. Should I do the recap?
Speaker 1: Do the recap time? So I do a very bad
Speaker 1: recap on that in most episodes, to everyone's dismay. We've
Speaker 1: got a team played by Eddie Murphy. He's the prince
Speaker 1: in a fictional African country or kingdom called Zamunda, and
Speaker 1: he just turned twenty one and his dad, James L. Jones,
Speaker 1: the King, is like, you gotta marry this lady, and
Speaker 1: he's like, she's very boring. I don't like her. So
Speaker 1: he goes to America to find a bride with his
Speaker 1: friend Arsenio Hall friend and servant his name is Semi,
Speaker 1: and they like go to Queen's and he meets this
Speaker 1: woman who is the daughter of a McDonald's rip off
Speaker 1: Jane restaurant, and he falls in love with her, but
Speaker 1: he the whole thing is that he wants someone who
Speaker 1: was just going to love him for who he is,
Speaker 1: so like he pretends to not have any of his
Speaker 1: riches and he just pretends to be like a commoner,
Speaker 1: very much Jasmine in Laddin and interesting. Yeah, so they
Speaker 1: like fall in love and then like something's happened, but
Speaker 1: she's also got this like boyfriend who kind of sucks
Speaker 1: Darryll and uh you know some Hi jinkson Sue involving
Speaker 1: Sam Jackson. Yeah, I love that scene. I love that
Speaker 1: he was in it. I love that Louis Anderson is
Speaker 1: forgot about randomly. I I'm gonna make the big Arsenio
Speaker 1: makes it very pretty lady. Oh my god. Like, I
Speaker 1: don't even know where I first saw him, but when
Speaker 1: I was a kid, I had a huge crush on
Speaker 1: her City Hall and I don't I think this is
Speaker 1: like the youngest I had ever seen him. I had
Speaker 1: a crush on him when he was already old. That
Speaker 1: was my m as a child. Some people like Disney Princes,
Speaker 1: you like middle aged black guys. That's your Alextra bed
Speaker 1: Kelsey Grammar. Wow, just middle age. I had a very
Speaker 1: big crush on Jim from the Adventures of Huck Finn
Speaker 1: The Elijah would one by Courtney be fans. Yes, none
Speaker 1: of this surprises me. Also, Alfred Molina in Spiderman Too
Speaker 1: made me so Horney is a twelve year old. I
Speaker 1: had a poster of dot Cock in my room because
Speaker 1: my mom, I think, was like, you know, Jay's a tomboy,
Speaker 1: she's into she's in action movies now, And I was
Speaker 1: just like horny for Molina. That's very peculiar. He's not
Speaker 1: a typical heart throb. He's a beef cake. He's a
Speaker 1: beef cake with a bad attitude. I love him so anyway,
Speaker 1: that's the story of Coming to America. The whole thing
Speaker 1: is that, like as he says in the movie, Achem
Speaker 1: wants a woman who will arouse his intellect as well
Speaker 1: as his loins. Love it, but I don't. The woman
Speaker 1: would was my intellect as well as my loins. I
Speaker 1: love the accents that they like going and out of
Speaker 1: throughout the whatever's comfortable. But the best part of the
Speaker 1: movie is that there's like all these just like every
Speaker 1: scene is funny, Like there's no not funny scene. And
Speaker 1: as a comic, I appreciate that there aren't any throwaway
Speaker 1: lines in this movie. Like you can watch this movie
Speaker 1: and line for line they're set up punch like. It
Speaker 1: all makes a point that can stays consistent throughout. And
Speaker 1: then you just have all these random characters that are
Speaker 1: played by for the most part's so good see those scenes.
Speaker 1: Just to say again coming from a screenwriting master, a
Speaker 1: lot of those scenes, Um, a lot of those scenes
Speaker 1: felt very unneeded. I feel like they were just like, hey,
Speaker 1: we can do different characters, Let's have a barbershop. I
Speaker 1: have a genuine question. I'm sure that this was not
Speaker 1: the first time that was done, but is this one
Speaker 1: of the movies that popularized doing not that like led
Speaker 1: us to Jack and Jill or like of the main
Speaker 1: star playing multiple characters. That's a really great question because
Speaker 1: I don't have a frame of reference for because I
Speaker 1: feel like that Sailor movies are like the worst possible
Speaker 1: endgame of that trope, but it works so well in
Speaker 1: this movie because half the time you have to do
Speaker 1: a double take, where in like the Jagging jail kind
Speaker 1: of movies was like Jesus Quiet. They might have popularized
Speaker 1: it for like mainstream comedies, but there's a bunch of
Speaker 1: movies that like, um, yeah, Wizard of Oz, that's I
Speaker 1: think Doctor's Strange love differently different characters. Can I uh,
Speaker 1: can I give some insight into why the barbershop scenes
Speaker 1: are necessary? Because when I when I came and see
Speaker 1: me come over to America. They're like, Oh, we need
Speaker 1: to go where the common parts are. We need to
Speaker 1: be with the common people. Let's go to queens. So
Speaker 1: they go to queens, and they're like trying to like
Speaker 1: immerse themselves into like Black America can culture, and the
Speaker 1: barbershop is an integral part of Black American culture and
Speaker 1: experience and just kind of like the ship talking that
Speaker 1: happens in the barbershop, and the barbershop ends up being
Speaker 1: like what leads them in the right direction for him
Speaker 1: to meet Lisa, you know, because and so like it
Speaker 1: serves as like the parents for him in America that
Speaker 1: he didn't like when he was in because the barber
Speaker 1: like leads him directly literally and leads his and leads
Speaker 1: his father to him. Like they're kind of like this
Speaker 1: centralized nucleus that serve as the home base for queens
Speaker 1: the same way that like, essentially it's like saying, like
Speaker 1: the barbershop is the palace for queens. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: very good point. I think maybe I just think that
Speaker 1: those scenes go on too long because I'm missing the
Speaker 1: man you ain't never been. Yes, I didn't know you
Speaker 1: did not you fuck you fuck you next, Like so good.
Speaker 1: They brought up they brought up that when yeah, he's
Speaker 1: from my hometown, and I was like, oh, it's the
Speaker 1: one white boxer that's from where I'm from. Yeah, shout
Speaker 1: out to Bracton City Champions aka Rocky Marciano was born
Speaker 1: there a very long time ago. There's in my in
Speaker 1: my high school, there's a fifty foot statue of Rocky Marciano.
Speaker 1: It's gaudy and we like it is a very low income,
Speaker 1: Like where did the money come from to make that?
Speaker 1: We don't know. It's everybody know that he was not
Speaker 1: at all. Those us are so good. I love, I know,
Speaker 1: you know what I gotta I gotta be contrary sometimes,
Speaker 1: you know, I know, well you're training. I got to
Speaker 1: get rid of them. My god, it's just let me
Speaker 1: set him on fire. I don't need him, I really don't.
Speaker 1: So we have we talked about some of those characters
Speaker 1: of the women in the movie. We have the mean mother, Yes,
Speaker 1: Queen Yeah, Queen Eli. That was a good scene too.
Speaker 1: Lisa McDowell is the kind of I did the main
Speaker 1: woman character. Her sister, Patrese Love. Patrese is the voice
Speaker 1: of like real. I don't know. Every time I was
Speaker 1: just like man, Patrese. Not everybody thinks like you. Yes
Speaker 1: they do, they just don't admit it. Right. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: like our intro to Patriqui. And then when she ends
Speaker 1: up with Arthen, I'm just like, she wins in my
Speaker 1: head because she got to make out with Arseniel Hall.
Speaker 1: Why does she? I love how corny she is the
Speaker 1: whole so horny, and she has great outfits, which is
Speaker 1: all my favorite movie characters fit that description. When they're
Speaker 1: at the basketball game, I'm like, Oh, she's just gonna
Speaker 1: go for it. Yeah, she just goes him like an
Speaker 1: under the coat hand job at a basketball game. Peek patrise.
Speaker 1: So those are pretty much the most notable women characters
Speaker 1: in the movie. There's also Amani, who is the bride
Speaker 1: to be that he leaves back in Zamunda, which it
Speaker 1: was just very dumb. Yeah. I just like whenever food
Speaker 1: and music, you like like a dog dog. Yeah, she
Speaker 1: does worse and worses shop on my leg. I guess
Speaker 1: I'm looking a wrong at time. And I love that
Speaker 1: the father comes in. It's like I see you are
Speaker 1: getting along nicely, or later when he's just like, I
Speaker 1: fucked the ladies that Babe was like, man, your poor,
Speaker 1: poor queen. I know she knows that. But in their
Speaker 1: first yeah, in their first scene, they're basically like, we
Speaker 1: won't love each other right for you get married. We
Speaker 1: figured it out. I was nauseous when I she's the
Speaker 1: first thing I wanted to talk about is how many
Speaker 1: of the characters have very poor attitudes towards women. We
Speaker 1: start with Arsenio Hall. He's like, look, all a, he
Speaker 1: just has to have a very nice face and a
Speaker 1: very hot but very like a stop of melons. And
Speaker 1: he's like, why do you care what her opinions are?
Speaker 1: And meanwhile Eddie Murphy is like, I want a woman
Speaker 1: who gives my brain a boner, and then he's a
Speaker 1: great attitude. My question in the movie, I'm just like, man,
Speaker 1: where did he? Where does this come from? Free? Where? Right?
Speaker 1: Because his dad doesn't feel that way? It seems like
Speaker 1: his indirection. But I was like, you know, I don't care.
Speaker 1: You know what, I would say, that's the only hole
Speaker 1: in the film. We don't know why. I know that
Speaker 1: Caitlin believes they're a very wide gaping. I don't think,
Speaker 1: but I do feel like that is a whole, Like
Speaker 1: we never find out like why he in particularly has
Speaker 1: decided like just they're going to tell us. I thought
Speaker 1: they're going to tell us. In a scene where he's
Speaker 1: on the date with Lisa and she's she basically asks
Speaker 1: him that question of like why do you think this way?
Speaker 1: Even though she still thinks he's poor at the time,
Speaker 1: and he gives her an excuse, but he doesn't like
Speaker 1: give us. I was like, is there a director's cut? Maybe? Right,
Speaker 1: I'm like, is there did you read? Dude? That doesn't
Speaker 1: bother me, Like, he's just a free thinker. He got
Speaker 1: sick of like just being pampered and who gets that
Speaker 1: the Royal penis is plane. That was great. I was
Speaker 1: wondering that maybe this year I could have my shoelaces,
Speaker 1: know what, you know? He said, I wonder I maybe
Speaker 1: this year I could wipe myself And he's like very
Speaker 1: funny high yeah, and then no, James RL. Johnson, the
Speaker 1: shoelacesces once. He's everything. That's good. Yeah, I mean it
Speaker 1: didn't bother me. I didn't. I was just like, you know,
Speaker 1: he's just a he's a free thinker, he's a he's
Speaker 1: a nice guy. Yeah. I mean, of all the plot
Speaker 1: holes that could exist. This is Yeah, I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1: He respects women as a I do feel bad for
Speaker 1: the like rose bearers who lose their jobs. I don't
Speaker 1: want you to throw ropes in my feet anymore. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's going to happen to the bros bearers?
Speaker 1: They'll become dick wipers. They they get promoted to the
Speaker 1: Royal penis cleaning. Amazing, what a resume. Yeah, that's like
Speaker 1: when I worked at the Gap and this chick was like,
Speaker 1: I really can't wait to become a denim specialist, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I gotta quit. I can't can't stay here.
Speaker 1: I worked at a place once in Austin, mass called
Speaker 1: Swiss bakers don't go there, and we were called guest huggers,
Speaker 1: which is disgusting the Swiss or pervert. I was a
Speaker 1: shift lead. I'd show up at four in the morning.
Speaker 1: I was twenty one. I shouldn't have been there. And
Speaker 1: then the owner was a Swiss guy and he's like,
Speaker 1: you know your guest huggers, So if a guest comes
Speaker 1: in and ask to hug you, you must oblige. No,
Speaker 1: so not against the wood, absolutely against a lot, but
Speaker 1: to them against a lot equals Swiss custom. And if
Speaker 1: someone if some pervert per se wanders in at five
Speaker 1: thirty in the morning and I was like, I want
Speaker 1: to hug you gotta hug him. Did that happen? It
Speaker 1: happened several times. Very few people actually wanted hugs. But
Speaker 1: the only people who want hugs other people. You don't
Speaker 1: want to be hugging. So um words. Oh so that's
Speaker 1: my dick wiper job because it fell in to an extent,
Speaker 1: it was a dick whipper and I had to make
Speaker 1: them a lot day. Yeah, sorry, you know what I'm doing. Okay,
Speaker 1: I recovered. He's making a lot of Mike's hard lemonade though,
Speaker 1: hitting the sauce hard, hugging, yeah, nubbing the effect. Imagine
Speaker 1: waking up at three thirty in the morning to go
Speaker 1: feel someone's hard dick. No sound in New York. At
Speaker 1: least I was getting paid. That's so Arsenio's you know,
Speaker 1: attitudes towards women are not very great. And then now
Speaker 1: there is the king. He's just like, oh, who cares.
Speaker 1: She's a woman and she's hot, and we picked her
Speaker 1: for you, so marry her. Then we um Darryl. Darryl
Speaker 1: is the next person. Darryl is Lisa's boyfriend. Whenever we
Speaker 1: first meet Lisa, he's all, like, a woman just needs
Speaker 1: to be taken care of. You don't need to work.
Speaker 1: I'll take care of you. I got my what's the
Speaker 1: name of the hair product? Just letting you're so glow,
Speaker 1: just lady, chan baby, just lay your so. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: got that so glow fortune. He's like, let me just
Speaker 1: take care of you. When this episode comes up, I'm
Speaker 1: going to make that marrying tongue the genuine question again,
Speaker 1: what is Lisa's job exactly at McDowell's. She's on the
Speaker 1: computer and yeah, she seems like she's crunching numbers. She's
Speaker 1: got she's our social media according she has a recent grad.
Speaker 1: I figure things out. She's working it out. No, I
Speaker 1: think she's like, they're a bookkeeper, right, because she like
Speaker 1: has this like she's the one who's like donate you know,
Speaker 1: all right, we gotta fix up Lincoln Park. That's the
Speaker 1: scene where we all fall in love with Lisa likes
Speaker 1: what a grand, motivated, beautiful person. It is also the
Speaker 1: scene that is what makes the movie one of the
Speaker 1: best movies ever made in the history of the world,
Speaker 1: because we get to meet Randy Watson. Randy Watson you
Speaker 1: might know him, that the policeman from What's Going Down
Speaker 1: episode and that's my mama. That's not where I know.
Speaker 1: Oh but that scene is another Bethel des scene, like
Speaker 1: how they have all the women in bikinis, right, So
Speaker 1: that yeah, that so that Black Awareness Rally is really
Speaker 1: just like a beauty pageant with like wins why did
Speaker 1: anyone win? At the end of he is like everyone
Speaker 1: show your ass and now you can leave. It was like,
Speaker 1: but woy, who won? Who won this? I think that
Speaker 1: what that's references. Have you ever seen Jet Magazine? Yes,
Speaker 1: so Jet Magazine was like a little mini magazine, but
Speaker 1: it's like a it's a legendary black women's magazine, and um,
Speaker 1: I want necessarily say it's a black women's magazine, but
Speaker 1: it's like it was like a black It's still in print,
Speaker 1: like is it no, they're on they stopped printing. It
Speaker 1: was like a whole thing like maybe two and a
Speaker 1: half years ago, and every issue of Jet Magazine had
Speaker 1: a Jet Beauty of the Week, and the Jet Beauty
Speaker 1: of the Week would be like in some very eighties
Speaker 1: bikini and sitting on like a rock you know, or
Speaker 1: some ship and then it would have like her likes
Speaker 1: and her you know, her goals, and it was always
Speaker 1: just vapid vs. But the Black Awareness Rally is essentially
Speaker 1: like here are the jet beauties of the week, Like
Speaker 1: that's essentially what they're doing. Yeah, I didn't look up who.
Speaker 1: I wonder who the women in the actual like line
Speaker 1: of I wonder if we're that Well in the scene
Speaker 1: with the three guys from my t shop, from the barbershop,
Speaker 1: you know, the three of them are sitting there at
Speaker 1: the Black Ranness Rally in front of them in the
Speaker 1: row in front of them is director f Gary Gray,
Speaker 1: who directed straight Ava Coompton and Friday. Well, that's crazy
Speaker 1: trying to bring you out some some extra facts, some
Speaker 1: black facts. This is yeah, there are there were so
Speaker 1: many things I had to pause and which isn't like
Speaker 1: ordinary for just like watching a comedy is like I
Speaker 1: had to pause multiple times and be like, wait a second.
Speaker 1: What I had to like find the list of who
Speaker 1: is Eddie, Who's are sending from the list of parts, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I didn't know that that was a part of
Speaker 1: the movie, and so by the time I figured it out,
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, what did I already miss? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of sexism, though I really it's
Speaker 1: like almost like, I mean, I know that, but it
Speaker 1: never made me like the movie less almost like a
Speaker 1: little John song there's I mean, there are there are
Speaker 1: some I don't know, and I guess like Eddie Murphy,
Speaker 1: who's like kind of arguably like a problematic dude in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, it like in regards to his
Speaker 1: stand up anyways. Um, Like, I wasn't totally surprised to
Speaker 1: see some like women, but of the joke things like
Speaker 1: at the beginning, before we meet the really hot lady
Speaker 1: who doesn't have any thoughts of her own, we the
Speaker 1: person who introduces her, you know, is like a bigger woman,
Speaker 1: and he's like, oh yeah, uh. That joke is he
Speaker 1: doesn't find her attractive. Um, And there's like a few
Speaker 1: things like that that I man, it's not that I
Speaker 1: gave the benefit of the doubt, but I wasn't like
Speaker 1: surprised to see because if it was any Murphy standing
Speaker 1: like I don't know, it was like I wasn't totally
Speaker 1: surprised to be like, oh, this movie isn't amazing to women.
Speaker 1: I was honestly surprised that I loved Lisa so much,
Speaker 1: and Lisa was so clearly awesome. She was very definitively
Speaker 1: like not about the bullshit, but she was very much
Speaker 1: the only woman character who was like that every other
Speaker 1: woman because mom, yeah true, I mean produced you know,
Speaker 1: she was sexually free third wave feminism, Kim Karashian feminist
Speaker 1: type ways. Yeah, because maybe at the time it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is like the sister, but I don't know through seggs,
Speaker 1: she's just sexually liberated, and I think she was just
Speaker 1: like more material. She's more like a she was the
Speaker 1: Basketball Wives sister. Yeah yeah, yeah, Like she's more like
Speaker 1: why is she always get the rich guys? Like she's
Speaker 1: like that brings me to the fourth dude character who
Speaker 1: is not very great towards women, which is their dad,
Speaker 1: Cleo mcdone. He's basically just like a mercenary who's like,
Speaker 1: who's the richest guy who I can marry my daughter?
Speaker 1: Under off too. That was one of the scenes where
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, like that was a weird parallel
Speaker 1: between was the fake Country anymore Munda And I was
Speaker 1: like that wouldn't have happened in someone being like, hey,
Speaker 1: my daughter is gonna marry this guy I don't know,
Speaker 1: like Queen's and with that that's happening in Queen's right now,
Speaker 1: like literally, I mean I think it came from a
Speaker 1: different place. I think it did come from a place
Speaker 1: of like I want my daughter to be taking care
Speaker 1: of because he's like a single father, Like she doesn't
Speaker 1: have they don't have her mom around. So I think
Speaker 1: because there because even though that there was that once
Speaker 1: James Joe Jones was like, I'll pay you. He was
Speaker 1: like to leave my daughter alone. That's when he know,
Speaker 1: but he was like no, He was like, you can't
Speaker 1: buy my daughter off, like offers him a million dollars
Speaker 1: to million dollars. She's like no, she's yeah, which redeems him. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I feel like he was just like I do,
Speaker 1: feel like it was more out like my daughter is
Speaker 1: someone that's worth something more than like I want to
Speaker 1: just pedal my daughter off. I tried to contextualize a
Speaker 1: little with like, mm, you know, if you would Mike
Speaker 1: be okay, if I was like, hey Mike, I'm dating
Speaker 1: a janitor, uh, he would be like David, come on,
Speaker 1: you know, like even if and I could be like no,
Speaker 1: this this janitor is Eddie Murphy. He's great, and my
Speaker 1: dad would be like, I don't know, you know, like
Speaker 1: you know, I guess my lawyer told me that I
Speaker 1: cannot date anyone who doesn't have a master's. It was like, well,
Speaker 1: it was like that's tough. Really, that's yeah, I have
Speaker 1: the people here. He was like, high school, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: talk what do you want to talk about? I've meant
Speaker 1: more successful high school dropouts here. Then it's like it's
Speaker 1: but then to talk about because that's the thing. There's
Speaker 1: nothing I'm like. But she was like, she was like,
Speaker 1: you were not. She was like, there's going You're gonna
Speaker 1: hit a wall. She was like, you're gonna hit a wall. Look,
Speaker 1: you don't need to talk. You just make we call
Speaker 1: that a call back. I love it. You have the masters.
Speaker 1: You're like hot tail. I gotta get masters. I gotta
Speaker 1: be more in debt. That's what's gonna make me like
Speaker 1: a valuable partner. I definitely. Yeah, I'm still playing paying
Speaker 1: Colombia for that masters and solid thirty three thousand left.
Speaker 1: That's not that bad. That's like, I mean, I'm thirty
Speaker 1: six this year, so okay, Yeah, I've been paying this
Speaker 1: off for almost fifteen years. I just got under forty
Speaker 1: for my undergrad and I've never felt better in my time.
Speaker 1: If my income is low enough right now where they're
Speaker 1: not making me pay back my loans, I've lived that life.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. So I just have to stay poor and
Speaker 1: I die and I don't ever have to pay them back. Legitimately,
Speaker 1: my plan stole it. I don't want to get rich
Speaker 1: enough that I can pay them back. I want to
Speaker 1: stay or enough that I don't have to pay them back.
Speaker 1: I don't deserve it, and I think I can settle,
Speaker 1: like I think I'm at enough. Of us told me
Speaker 1: that I think I've had like a low enough balance
Speaker 1: where if I hit him up and was like, listen,
Speaker 1: how about I just gave you a four thousand bucks
Speaker 1: and we call any when they won't take it that low,
Speaker 1: but like if it's thirty three, they might take twenty three. Well,
Speaker 1: you're a serious regular now on an HBO alumnihilist listen.
Speaker 1: And the time my mom today was like, remember when
Speaker 1: you used to sell bags on my space? Yes, I
Speaker 1: used to sell hand painted tote bags on my space. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's amazing, thank you. It's a good idea very difficult. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that sounds like a long time. Yeah, there it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I used to be a paint night instructor. That was
Speaker 1: my hug caught me that drunk too, Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: trained for it and then I was like, this is
Speaker 1: I've had every bad job, but this is too much.
Speaker 1: It's a thing where like usually middle aged women go
Speaker 1: to like a bar and it's disturbing. It's like an
Speaker 1: event where you just like paint a painting. There's an
Speaker 1: instructor who like teaches you like it's like usually a
Speaker 1: landscape or a tree or somethin You drink Margarita's, you
Speaker 1: drink white wine, and then you just get drunk with
Speaker 1: your friends. It means very like how comrade twenty four.
Speaker 1: That's why it's grossed to you. It's really to me.
Speaker 1: I'm like me and the gal painting, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: this sounds amazing. It's like where everyone where they're like
Speaker 1: former sorority, they're like, you won't be great if we
Speaker 1: all made the same bad painting. Can we talk about
Speaker 1: the there's a montage where um, a Cheam and Semi
Speaker 1: go to a bar and there's all these very ludicrous
Speaker 1: women who I mean very l a. Some of them
Speaker 1: bothered me, others did not. Like some of them seem
Speaker 1: more like satirical, like the girl who's talking about a
Speaker 1: career and stuff like I don't really want to do
Speaker 1: like my own videos, wanna be my starting my own songs,
Speaker 1: you know, because I mean that's a lot of Antle's conversation. Laughed, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I thought that was really funny. And then there
Speaker 1: were a few that were more like what were the
Speaker 1: ones did any bother you or bothered me? But they
Speaker 1: were all just like such ridiculous, I want to tear
Speaker 1: you to pieces that and your friends spit and a
Speaker 1: great spit take. I wrote that it was like, great,
Speaker 1: he spends the entire movie just like mugging. Arsenio's over
Speaker 1: forty and this movie he's like forty three in this movie.
Speaker 1: Damn well, you know what the best women in that
Speaker 1: scene are though, right, oh my name is and the
Speaker 1: best all the j's want to feel my breath? Wickupick
Speaker 1: up movie should end right there? Owner you found that
Speaker 1: was my like voicemail message for a good four years.
Speaker 1: Like if I wasn't a series regular on the HBO
Speaker 1: hitch so insecure, I would put it back. Sorry, I'm
Speaker 1: that's my screenwriting degree too. I love them, and I
Speaker 1: also there's another pair of twins. I don't know if
Speaker 1: those yes. What I love about it is that they
Speaker 1: are speaking in unison and they say something like, this
Speaker 1: is the first time Teresa and I've been out since
Speaker 1: the doctor separated us. But they both say Teresa their names.
Speaker 1: I have never got that. I have seen this film
Speaker 1: nine twenty two point seven five times. I have never
Speaker 1: got that. I think it's maybe the best joke in
Speaker 1: the entire movie. Oh my god, this is and I've
Speaker 1: been oun since the doctor separate this is for centuries,
Speaker 1: and I've been out since the Doctor's epated us. Because
Speaker 1: they have the beat in there and they were sitting
Speaker 1: as if they were can still conjoined twins to like
Speaker 1: just like a little to left, dude, have you ever
Speaker 1: like gotten into the conjoined twins wormhole? Like of googling stuff?
Speaker 1: I started it and then I ended up purchasing books.
Speaker 1: It took I used to work at a bookstore and
Speaker 1: one day there was like a sale. There was sale
Speaker 1: about there's these great vaudeville conjoined twins, Violet and Daisy.
Speaker 1: That's what there's a play yes, Yeah, there's so much.
Speaker 1: A Netflix documentary. They were in movies and all this stuff,
Speaker 1: and you like, I was like, there's gotta be a
Speaker 1: chapter in their sex life. There is. They were horny
Speaker 1: as hell and they made it work. I love them
Speaker 1: how they either by one twin choosing to be chill,
Speaker 1: I mean, like have a good night, I'm going to
Speaker 1: turn my head to the side, or there was like
Speaker 1: a curtain arrangement. Do you remember where they were joined?
Speaker 1: They were joined like traditionally like at the at the hip.
Speaker 1: My question was, can one twin feel if the other
Speaker 1: twin is coming? Would you know if you're twins? Did
Speaker 1: they talking to separate vaginas? They did have two separate vaginas. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so and they were both married at one point and
Speaker 1: they were also like for a while riches. Fuck wow.
Speaker 1: Anyway back to the no no no no. So there's
Speaker 1: a line that Lisa delivers whenever. So there's a party
Speaker 1: where Darryl goes to Lisa's dad and it's like, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask your daughter to marry me, and Cleo
Speaker 1: is like great, and then they just decide her future
Speaker 1: for her basically, and it's like she's like I'm not
Speaker 1: apprised to be one again, just like in Aladdin with
Speaker 1: Jasmine Um. But she goes out and she just starts
Speaker 1: talking to a cheam and she's like, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to be pressured into marriage, not by my father or
Speaker 1: Darryl or anyone. But then not long after that she
Speaker 1: gets married anyway, at the end of the movie to
Speaker 1: a chem She's married after saying exactly, but she tells
Speaker 1: him like yourself, yeah, yeah, take your earrings. I feel
Speaker 1: fine with how it ended. Yeah, like because then he
Speaker 1: says to her, like, we don't have to live like this.
Speaker 1: Would you give this up? And renounced right right? I
Speaker 1: don't know. There's like so many sometimes I kind of
Speaker 1: get caught up in that, Like everyone thinks that movies
Speaker 1: should end like Sex in the City the series where
Speaker 1: it's like I don't have a man, I'm fine, but
Speaker 1: it's like you can still be a fine person and
Speaker 1: like empowered and and and like yeah and like be
Speaker 1: in love and stuff. And I feel like it's almost
Speaker 1: like that, I mean, that's what can happen. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: just because I'm so cynical and so sent every year
Speaker 1: who has someone to be with. I's like, fuck you
Speaker 1: and your stupid wedding and your pink dress not dress,
Speaker 1: which I appreciate. I liked that. Okay, Patrese wears a
Speaker 1: two piece pank outfit the first time she hooks up
Speaker 1: with our Sinea in this movie, with these unbelievable earrings,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like that. I screenshot at it. I
Speaker 1: was like, let me figure this out. I want Patrese's
Speaker 1: look here. Let me. It seems achievable, but I don't know. Well,
Speaker 1: you lived in Englewood, I live. You can definitely achieve
Speaker 1: that look slas and swat meat. I lived right by
Speaker 1: um yes, yes, like right around the corner. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: went to that Walmart optometrist to get glasses and then
Speaker 1: I called back a year later. I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: I came here last year. Can I come back? And
Speaker 1: they're like, this Walmart is closed. I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: see you never there's a what I think is a
Speaker 1: trading places reference. Yes where like yeah, Randolph, I told you,
Speaker 1: I'm not talking to you anymore. Oh I miss okay
Speaker 1: because I I haven't seen trading places for a long time,
Speaker 1: but I have seen it and it was like that
Speaker 1: rings up. Yeah. For some reason, yeah, he gives um
Speaker 1: them a lot of cash. He basically takes Semmi's spending
Speaker 1: money and he's like, you can't do any more damage
Speaker 1: with this. I'm and to pour homeless white guys on
Speaker 1: the street. And then it turns out that they're the
Speaker 1: characters from Trading Places Looking Good, Valentine, I feel like
Speaker 1: the Winthrop. There's a scene at the beginning where I
Speaker 1: had to double check when this movie was made because
Speaker 1: it sounds it almost sounded like James W. Jones was
Speaker 1: doing a weird MoU Fossa reference. But then I was like,
Speaker 1: apparently he just plays royalty a lot, because he was
Speaker 1: just like he says something like like I was like,
Speaker 1: that's a move yeah, yeah, yeah, And I was like,
Speaker 1: that sounds like move Fossa. But it was that sounds
Speaker 1: like that very yes, well, because yeah, they're interchangeable. He
Speaker 1: does play a king a lot um. He's legal as
Speaker 1: fun Vader yea that and Royal Conan the Barbarian. I
Speaker 1: think of that he's a bad guy, but I think
Speaker 1: he's like a lead two cast. James Earl Jones is
Speaker 1: like a popper. He sounds like fucking royalty, like that
Speaker 1: would maybe be fun a fun turn that could be
Speaker 1: his good will hunting. This time, James Earl Jones sounds
Speaker 1: the same, except he is poor. Haven't out instant If
Speaker 1: James Okay, this is my theory. If James Earl Jones
Speaker 1: played someone very poor, he would win an oscar. He
Speaker 1: has a very bad job, which is crazy. He's gotta
Speaker 1: he's got to have a good will hunting. You've got
Speaker 1: to have a Dallas Buyers Club. He's overdue. These are
Speaker 1: all movies with all white men, though. This is but
Speaker 1: I want James. I want that for James Earl killing,
Speaker 1: I know, I want well, It's like even like Denzel
Speaker 1: not winning for Fences was like, that's true, I mean,
Speaker 1: and what a fucking abysmal actual win for Casey Affleck
Speaker 1: who I would kill using my legs if I had
Speaker 1: any I can't stand them. That was so specific. Oh
Speaker 1: I would kill using my legs. I have very strong legs.
Speaker 1: I think yourself vocadom. I like to think I could
Speaker 1: do that too, like wrap and then squee yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's like some shadow. What's that movie about teeth teeth Vagina?
Speaker 1: That was my favorite movie in high school? Have you
Speaker 1: heard about this it's a horror movie. A woman discovers
Speaker 1: she has teeth in her vagina and then she uses
Speaker 1: it for vigilante justice. They have they have condoms in
Speaker 1: South Africa that they were using that have like, I mean,
Speaker 1: quote unquote teeth inside the condom, so it's like a
Speaker 1: woman's it's like a feminom that women put up their
Speaker 1: vaginas to uh be safe against rapists so that the
Speaker 1: teeth grab and so they can move themselves out of
Speaker 1: him and be like piece off like that. Why isn't
Speaker 1: that everywhere? That's believable. Yeah, that's like a thing. It's
Speaker 1: like a little bear trap. Wait, Aristotle held up that
Speaker 1: thing that said the sand Lot? What's that about? What? What?
Speaker 1: What's that? You don't know about the sand Lot? I
Speaker 1: mean I know that it's a movie, but I didn't
Speaker 1: know what it was. You're killing me, Smalls, you're killing me? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I know that. Wait. Does Jim Joel Jones in it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He's is he a king in it too? Well, he's
Speaker 1: like a former like legendary baseball player. But they don't.
Speaker 1: They're afraid of him, they think because they're like he's
Speaker 1: like a recluse. And then they finally go over there
Speaker 1: to get the ball, and it turns out that he's
Speaker 1: like this legendary baseball player. I have chills thinking about it, literally,
Speaker 1: I have right now. The end he's still higher echelon,
Speaker 1: but you just don't know it for a long got it.
Speaker 1: I've never seen The sand Lot, although I thought I
Speaker 1: was about to watch it one time I went over.
Speaker 1: I was in seventh grade. I went over to my
Speaker 1: friend's house and he had friends over and he had
Speaker 1: a swimming pool, and then we're like, hey, guys, we're
Speaker 1: going to watch the sand Lot. Yeah, so we go
Speaker 1: and sit down around this TV. They hit play and
Speaker 1: then apporne and I didn't even know what the sand
Speaker 1: Lot was. I was like, is this going to call
Speaker 1: my vagina as well? Oh my god? Yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: like everyone, Okay, that's a very extreme example of we're
Speaker 1: going in to watch a movie but actually something horrible
Speaker 1: light moment. He never knew what's gonna happen. So that's
Speaker 1: like the Betel Test movie too, though, because there's a
Speaker 1: lot of you so like a girl. Yeah, yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of good we should do a kid's movie.
Speaker 1: So yeah. Um. My version of that story was at
Speaker 1: Winter was in high school. Uh my, my friend Jenny
Speaker 1: invited a bunch of us over to watch p US
Speaker 1: I Love You on DVD from Blockbuster. This is like
Speaker 1: the waning days of Blockbuster. But right. I made eye
Speaker 1: contact with him one time because I was an extra
Speaker 1: on this set of Bounty Hunter whatever that movie was.
Speaker 1: He looked right at me. I looked right at him,
Speaker 1: became instantly pregnant. Oh my god. Anyways, I love you.
Speaker 1: Um So I went to watch ps I Love You
Speaker 1: and our valedictorian showed up, a weird guy, as valedictorians
Speaker 1: tend to be. But he showed up and he wasn't
Speaker 1: like technically invited, and we're like, why Richie here, this
Speaker 1: is weird. And then the middle of ps I Love You,
Speaker 1: Richie pretends to fall asleep on me, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: let make Jesus sleep on me. And then when I
Speaker 1: I sort of let him rest there, and then he
Speaker 1: grabbed my left boob and then I was like and
Speaker 1: then there was like two other people in the room
Speaker 1: and they didn't really see what was going on. And
Speaker 1: then Richie like is like, I'm tired, I gotta go home,
Speaker 1: and they boots out and we don't talk for the
Speaker 1: rest of high school. Whoa he So he sexually assaulted
Speaker 1: you and then he fled the scene at the Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess, so I get. But it was it was
Speaker 1: like a honk. It was a weird sexual it's a
Speaker 1: sexual assault, but it was Richie, So I wasn't afraid.
Speaker 1: I was just like I hated that. And then when
Speaker 1: he left it, my friend Jenny, like I don't know,
Speaker 1: came to and she was just like, why would she leave?
Speaker 1: So suddenly I was like, well, hey, he was not
Speaker 1: invited be he honked my boob and left. Man, it's
Speaker 1: like we have honked. It's sort of like the reverse
Speaker 1: of what happens in the basketball scene up Coming to
Speaker 1: America where he's like, oh, you gotta dick under this coat,
Speaker 1: let me touch a little bit. And then he stands
Speaker 1: up and he was like yes, and then he's like
Speaker 1: I gotta go. It's halftime. He's like, this is my
Speaker 1: favorite of the game. Yeah, so maybe, But then he
Speaker 1: goes to the bathroom and gets recognized. That's yeah, this
Speaker 1: is the happy s D of my life. Do you
Speaker 1: know that I someone I mentioned right, Yeah, And that's
Speaker 1: such a great one. I think I need to watch
Speaker 1: it again and just watch it like without expectation, Like
Speaker 1: you just have to watch it like it's just a
Speaker 1: long sketch show. I mean, I like the movie. It
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. I just had something when she
Speaker 1: said it, I note is literally a thing I only
Speaker 1: learned about, like in l A. Like when I would
Speaker 1: receive notes for something in New York, it wasn't notes
Speaker 1: coming to me and it was like like executives were
Speaker 1: getting notes on the project that I did a pilot
Speaker 1: for something whatever. Out Here though, it's like everyone has
Speaker 1: notes for everything. Yeah. And I literally sent someone a
Speaker 1: video that I had made for Instagram because they had
Speaker 1: made a joke and I had a video that could
Speaker 1: be like that went along with the joke. And they
Speaker 1: replied and said, oh, did you want notes on this?
Speaker 1: And this is an Instagram videos for fifteen seconds? Did
Speaker 1: you flip a table? That's like? I was like, why
Speaker 1: would I want? What? What are you talking about? And
Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, I mean people the guy people
Speaker 1: often send me Instagram videos to give them notes. And
Speaker 1: I was like, why would that be a thing? Love notes,
Speaker 1: love career advice? I did not ask for. I had
Speaker 1: someone who was going to be a guest on my pilot,
Speaker 1: come to the live dress rehearsal of it. Never speak
Speaker 1: to me like never like said hi, like I'm going
Speaker 1: to do your pilot next week. Nice to meet you.
Speaker 1: But however, sent notes on my show via somebody else.
Speaker 1: I hate people assigning value to their opinions. It's so gross. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like, why would I give any of a
Speaker 1: fun right? But if, like, deep down, it does make
Speaker 1: me insecure about something I wasn't going to be insecure
Speaker 1: about before, So it ends up just hurting everyone. I
Speaker 1: don't know, nobody needs your notes. That being said, I
Speaker 1: do give notes professionally on screenplays. If you want to
Speaker 1: go to my website, but you wait to be asked
Speaker 1: confidence and it's constructive. Yeah yeah, Like I literally had
Speaker 1: someone safe for smart, funny and black, like you should have.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't have comedians because they're they're trying, they're having
Speaker 1: to think too much about being funny. And I was
Speaker 1: like that, I gotta go to grow up, get a
Speaker 1: library card, I gotta get out of here. And steampunk
Speaker 1: check staunch, no steampunks, no steampunks, no, none of that.
Speaker 1: And every episode steampunk Culture referenced it just makes me
Speaker 1: think of that waas movie that's exactly that is like
Speaker 1: peak steampunk, but also a great movie. So that's part
Speaker 1: a great movie. That's I enjoy it. I know all
Speaker 1: the words of the theme song, Oh my god, Wow
Speaker 1: well West, that's almost all the you know what that
Speaker 1: song comes from? No from cool MODI had a song
Speaker 1: called Wow Wow West. Really it's a sample. I didn't
Speaker 1: know that. So the like court sample and then the
Speaker 1: actual music doom, that's a Stevie Wonder sample. I knew that.
Speaker 1: I knew that get back, but the chorus West learning
Speaker 1: every day. That's what we come together for. It, that's
Speaker 1: what community is for, it what togetherness is for. That's
Speaker 1: true Holmes steepunk. The modern interpretation of Holmes, like Robert
Speaker 1: Downey totally seem punk. I'm just but I, oh, you
Speaker 1: know what else, probably Back to the Future part three,
Speaker 1: definitely doing he's a jury punk. Yeah, he's in which
Speaker 1: the biggest invented steampunk shit steam. I will say. The
Speaker 1: one thing about that's like steampunk adjacent that resonates with
Speaker 1: me is the harpoon gun. Every time I invoke a weapon,
Speaker 1: that's my as my first choice is I want to
Speaker 1: you know, like I'm going to harpoon you, so I
Speaker 1: do invoke the harpoon gun a lot that is vaguely steampunk.
Speaker 1: Well that's a shout out to my who realized this discrepancy. Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: the last thing I wanted to say about this movie
Speaker 1: is so Eddie Murphy his attitude toward women, the fact
Speaker 1: that he wants someone who stimulates his brand and he
Speaker 1: can have a conversation with that's encouraging. That's good. I
Speaker 1: like that all of the other main characters who are
Speaker 1: men have, as we discussed, pretty poor attitudes toward women,
Speaker 1: and none of them really like we said, like Lisa's
Speaker 1: father sort of redeems himself by saying like my daughter's
Speaker 1: not for sale, but everyone else kind of. I want
Speaker 1: them to see them more, to learn their lesson and
Speaker 1: for their character arc happening, for them to grow that
Speaker 1: doesn't really happen. Arseneo gets to just be with Patrese,
Speaker 1: which I do like that pairing, but um, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know. They still have like pretty poor attitudes. And
Speaker 1: I mean this, this movie terribly and crazily fails the
Speaker 1: beckteldst Actually I think always talking about actually, oh my God,
Speaker 1: to degree Caitlin coming through. Actually, there is the scene
Speaker 1: where Lisa and Patrese are in I think their home
Speaker 1: and they receive a package. It's the diamond earrings that
Speaker 1: Akeem sends to Lisa. They start off the conversation not
Speaker 1: talking about men or a specific man. They're literally just
Speaker 1: talking about the ear rings in the package. Technically passes
Speaker 1: the backtel test. You must have a yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't guess you do. Ain't nobody given anybody ears like
Speaker 1: that unless they've given up the nanny. You know this
Speaker 1: like literally talked about them. I can just watch it
Speaker 1: and say all the words that's great, and watch the
Speaker 1: favorite line. But why do you know all the words?
Speaker 1: I can? I could probably recite another. Oh, that movie
Speaker 1: scares me. They're doing like a TV show that's kind
Speaker 1: of like a spoof on that. They're doing a jink
Speaker 1: spoof about time. That's what I say. But that scene,
Speaker 1: so that scene, like I said, it digresses into them
Speaker 1: talking about secret meyer and men, insects with men and
Speaker 1: stuff like that to the top of the scene technically passes.
Speaker 1: There's also another one where towards the end of the movie,
Speaker 1: the king was like, oh, he just came just came
Speaker 1: to America to sew his royal oats. He doesn't care
Speaker 1: about you. So Alsa is very upset and she like
Speaker 1: runs out into the living room and the Queen goes,
Speaker 1: are you alright, honey or something like that, and she's
Speaker 1: just like, I gotta go. But that's technically a conversation
Speaker 1: between about man specifically an amazing coat. She's a full
Speaker 1: length she and I would dive for. It's like Swede
Speaker 1: or something. And then she immediately goes out into the rain.
Speaker 1: What does that mean? This is a very New York coat,
Speaker 1: Like it's a it is Swede, but it's like it's
Speaker 1: like a swede that you expect that it can get wet. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like a coated swede, I guess. And then the
Speaker 1: inside is like wool and it's the it's literally the
Speaker 1: warmest jacket you've ever ever worn in your life. I
Speaker 1: saw that jacket and I was like, my mom definitely
Speaker 1: had the QVC version jacket. It has the you know,
Speaker 1: thirty five dollar version of that jacket. It just doesn't
Speaker 1: look waterproof. And she goes out into the pouring rain
Speaker 1: and I was just like, that poor jacket, you gotta
Speaker 1: end you got you gotta have a rain scene. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the rain scene was very attached to me. I really
Speaker 1: I was surprised how barely this movie passes the Bechtel
Speaker 1: test formally for a movie that whose protagonists has such
Speaker 1: a good attitude about but there's so few conversations with
Speaker 1: just women. Yeah. Yeah, it's literally like three women characters.
Speaker 1: It's just strange that, like usually the movies that barely
Speaker 1: pass it don't have a great attitude about about women,
Speaker 1: Like where the scene that I was default too is
Speaker 1: the scene from Um where that scene barely passes because
Speaker 1: of a similar exchange. It's like you're home late, shut
Speaker 1: up between like a step mom and a daughter, and
Speaker 1: that movie didn't have a great attitude towards women, but
Speaker 1: this one barely passes. And that's just the most depressed
Speaker 1: god saying that such a drag. Next level there is
Speaker 1: like there's opportunity for women to speak to each other
Speaker 1: more in this movie because of the like the pretty
Speaker 1: strong relationship that's established between Lisa and Patrese. When they
Speaker 1: are in a scene together, they're usually talking about Achim
Speaker 1: or Darryl, so it doesn't pass. But the thing is
Speaker 1: neither of them get that much screen time, Like I
Speaker 1: really part of why I don't like that those scenes
Speaker 1: with all of the barbershop go on for so long,
Speaker 1: as it takes time away from Lisa's screen time, Like
Speaker 1: she could be a much more developed character, and she's
Speaker 1: just like but she. I mean, if you added it up,
Speaker 1: she made has twenty minutes of screen time, Like we
Speaker 1: don't get to know her that well pretty much what
Speaker 1: I do see e her. I like, but she But
Speaker 1: the story is not about her. It's not about her,
Speaker 1: but we could it's about yeah, but it's about him
Speaker 1: finding the right woman for him. So I feel like
Speaker 1: if we just knew her a little bit better and
Speaker 1: we could understand why she's the best match for him.
Speaker 1: Well that's why I like Atlanta because I watch it.
Speaker 1: You know, Atlanta at first glance feels like, oh, it's
Speaker 1: just gonna be about dudes and we're gonna have to
Speaker 1: just like see Donald Glover. But then no, like there's
Speaker 1: entire episodes just about the woman who plays is child's
Speaker 1: mother and so it's just a but it's like they
Speaker 1: also had time. Sure, yeah, well they had time in
Speaker 1: this movie. It's two hours long. They just gave so
Speaker 1: much of its barbershop scenes that I can recite. I
Speaker 1: would not. I would What is that velvet? It's beautiful.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. Barbershop. Who plays that the Jewish guy Murphy
Speaker 1: is it? Really wasn't sure, damn it. I missed one.
Speaker 1: I was like, because I looked at the list, I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I can figure it out. The only one that's not
Speaker 1: played by either of them is the short guy in
Speaker 1: the barbershop, was like the voice of reason. That's neither
Speaker 1: of them, but like the guy who cuts the hair,
Speaker 1: and you know, people getting juniors in the movie, right,
Speaker 1: so he gets he's the first person in the chair
Speaker 1: when they when they first go in the barbershop, coople
Speaker 1: get duds in the chair. I missed that, damn it.
Speaker 1: And I'm just in the middle of the people versus
Speaker 1: I've seen the whole ESPN. I've seen Mary. I couldn't
Speaker 1: watch it was It's very melodramatic. So I don't even
Speaker 1: understand why it's winning all these awards. I don't get it.
Speaker 1: I like, I like, I like it, but it's so much.
Speaker 1: Who's the antress who plays Marcia? Sarah Sarah Paulson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she does really well. Did you know that Marshall Clark
Speaker 1: has nudes. I found them? Why were you looking for them?
Speaker 1: Because it's referenced in the People Versus O J. It's
Speaker 1: not referenced in the documentary. And then I recently wanted
Speaker 1: the series and they referenced like Marcia, did you know
Speaker 1: your nudes from when you're twenty five? Got late? And
Speaker 1: she's like no, and like those better fucking be real
Speaker 1: they are? She looks great? Uh cool? Does anyone else
Speaker 1: have any Does anyone have any final thoughts about the movie,
Speaker 1: specifically the portrayal of women in the movie. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't think the portrayal of women in the movie
Speaker 1: is as profound as it could have been. But what
Speaker 1: I do appreciate is that, at the very least, because
Speaker 1: this was also a time when like that was coming through,
Speaker 1: Like we were seeing Sally Field and like Meryl Street
Speaker 1: play these roles like in silk Wood and in like
Speaker 1: Steel Magnolias, where like it was very women's centric, was
Speaker 1: just now becoming like even a concept like oh, women's
Speaker 1: movies to um. But I do appreciate that, like the
Speaker 1: lead and the overall concept of this movie is about
Speaker 1: looking at women beyond sexual objects. Yeah, and then that's
Speaker 1: established pretty early that that is like what the protagonist
Speaker 1: is looking for. Like he's literally in a hot tub,
Speaker 1: like in a bathing pool with the three women, and
Speaker 1: he's just like, oh um, can't we talk about because
Speaker 1: with the most with most, like I guess, comedy and
Speaker 1: round comes. It's starts with like the male character feels
Speaker 1: the opposite and then must be persuaded throughout the movie.
Speaker 1: Do not only want to fuck but I like that
Speaker 1: A team starts like Okay, I've fucked enough, you know which.
Speaker 1: Imagine a man saying that I'm good. I want to
Speaker 1: talk about that's where is he? Where is he? I
Speaker 1: want that person? Where is he at? We'll find find
Speaker 1: our sweet prints he's in. He's a Chuck chese that
Speaker 1: chuck e cheese tonight you gotta go to check. What
Speaker 1: if what if it literally started taking the bartender at
Speaker 1: Chuck Mike would be like come on, would be like
Speaker 1: now this, yeah, I've I've already went down enough times
Speaker 1: with the professions of people that I've run inside me,
Speaker 1: so uh yeah, maybe not. But if he's amazing, Hey, hey,
Speaker 1: if he gives me a free blue moon, for sure,
Speaker 1: for sure. My selling praise is like seven dollars years. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's do the subject. Hey, let's write the movie. Okay.
Speaker 1: So we reade the movie on the scale of zero
Speaker 1: to five nipples, the nipple scale, the famous spectel cast nipples,
Speaker 1: and we read it specifically on its portrayal of the
Speaker 1: women in the movie. Specifically on its portrayal of women
Speaker 1: in the movie. I'm gonna give it a three and
Speaker 1: a half. Actually, I'm going to give it a four
Speaker 1: because the four main like representations of women in the
Speaker 1: movie are Lisa Patrese, Prince Akim's mom, and then the
Speaker 1: woman at the beginning, and three out of four of
Speaker 1: those are very like in charge of their lives, are
Speaker 1: very vocal, you know, and don't feel like suppressed to
Speaker 1: say no to things that are not in their individual
Speaker 1: per view. And I appreciate that. And they don't have
Speaker 1: like consequences for being that either. They're not punished for it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're just another rare empowered woman thing. We didn't talk
Speaker 1: about the Queen that much. I wish we she Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: she doesn't get much screen time either, but when she's
Speaker 1: on screen, she's basically being like, hey, husband of mine,
Speaker 1: quipping a fucking stupid idiot. This basically he's a cuk,
Speaker 1: but he doesn't he doesn't want to project that image.
Speaker 1: But like we know, she knows. I mean he's wearing
Speaker 1: a giant lion face right, like he's got something which
Speaker 1: proved he's fassa maybe foresta. Yeah, I'm gonna give it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it three and a half nipples because
Speaker 1: cant do you make a good point that there? That
Speaker 1: I liked all the female characters I you know, and
Speaker 1: the woman at the beginning he's supposed to marry. I
Speaker 1: felt for her, even if she was just she was
Speaker 1: conditioned to be that way. We're all conditioned by the patriarchy.
Speaker 1: She didn't have the opportunity being to develop her own personality,
Speaker 1: So I don't hold it too much against her. But
Speaker 1: the screen time thing that you have pointed out that
Speaker 1: was like that, that is a good point, um and
Speaker 1: the fact that it barely passes the Betel test in
Speaker 1: spite of its good attitude towards women. So three and
Speaker 1: a half I'm gonna give to those nipples to put
Speaker 1: trees because she is my favorite character. I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: half a nipple to the lady. I feel bad for
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give one nipple to the queen nice, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give it three nipples, because I like that at
Speaker 1: least the main character's attitude towards women isn't. Yes, I
Speaker 1: want someone to stimulate me intellectually. In addition to mak
Speaker 1: they only do that in the Pacific North Cess. Like
Speaker 1: I said, the other men in the movie do not
Speaker 1: have nearly as progressive attitudes toward women, and there I
Speaker 1: feel like, don't suffer the consequences of those bad thoughts
Speaker 1: and ideas. And well, I mean Daryl gets broken up
Speaker 1: with but then and then he's like in the rain,
Speaker 1: it ruins his Jerry curl right, that was the big deal.
Speaker 1: Was more poignant than I was expecting it to be.
Speaker 1: This like, but can we say that like the guys
Speaker 1: in the barbershop, they were never disrespectful to women, and
Speaker 1: they were also like, well, you need to go to
Speaker 1: the Black Awareness rally, like there's really, you know, women
Speaker 1: there that are about more than just like going to
Speaker 1: the club. And then he says like that's why I'm going,
Speaker 1: Like although the women there are mostly again in a
Speaker 1: beauty pageant, just like being very objectified. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: my main. My main thing is that I just wish
Speaker 1: we had gotten to know Lisa a bit more. I agree,
Speaker 1: I agree, and I selfishly wanted more screen time for
Speaker 1: Patrese because I didn't want to absorb her. Let's see
Speaker 1: a Patrese and Lisa spin off. Patrise to return to America,
Speaker 1: Character to America. I want to coming to Zamunda. That's
Speaker 1: what's gonna say. I would love to see Putris and
Speaker 1: Semunda Like, what is that? Don't make me write this
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