Speaker 1: On the Beck dol Cast, the questions asked if movies
Speaker 1: have women and um are all their discussions just boyfriends
Speaker 1: and husbands or do they have individualism? The patriarchy? Zef
Speaker 1: and best start changing it with the beck del Cast.
Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to the Bechtel Cast. I'm your host,
Speaker 1: Caitlin Durante. Our other wonderful host, Jamie Loftus, is on
Speaker 1: her way. She is stuck in traffic, but it pales
Speaker 1: in comparison to the story about her being trapped on
Speaker 1: a gray hump bus. I will let her share that
Speaker 1: when she gets here, but we wanted to get started,
Speaker 1: so it's not to waste the time of our wonderful guest,
Speaker 1: Jack you kin, Thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I can't wait to hear the bus story.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's terrific. So we are talking about
Speaker 1: the movie Groundhog Day? Are we talking about the movie
Speaker 1: Groundhog Day? We are? Could you? Oh? Hello and welcome
Speaker 1: to the Bechtel Cast. My name is Caitlin Durante. Your host,
Speaker 1: Jamie Loftus is on her way. That joke is on
Speaker 1: the table. You couldn't just leave it there. You gotta
Speaker 1: do that joke over. You gotta do it? What do you?
Speaker 1: What do you made a stone? Yeah, so we are here.
Speaker 1: The what this podcast is about is that we talked
Speaker 1: about the portrayal of female characters in movies for against
Speaker 1: I'm against women being in movies. I hate them. Right,
Speaker 1: dress men up in dresses like Shakespeare did? Why do
Speaker 1: we bother? Why do we even? Women should be in
Speaker 1: the kitchen changed to a wall. Change with just a
Speaker 1: leash that could get into the stove, get her to
Speaker 1: the fridge, and that is it. We shouldn't be allowed
Speaker 1: to learn to read and not all the way to
Speaker 1: the fridge because then they'll get fat. So one of
Speaker 1: my I was talking to somebody last night and one
Speaker 1: of my first ever jokes, Oh it's lame, um, was
Speaker 1: that men belong in the in the kitchen barefoot and
Speaker 1: erect with a with a frisbee on his head so
Speaker 1: I can put my beer in his head. That's very pross,
Speaker 1: wasn't it. Yeah, it's a it's the image doesn't even
Speaker 1: entirely work because you have to then go, oh, he's needling.
Speaker 1: But some people don't go it's such a dumb joke.
Speaker 1: But it was a hundred years ago. So it has
Speaker 1: that advantage that I've written new jokes since then. My
Speaker 1: early jokes are also not very good. Who's our that
Speaker 1: that was? We did a round robin of of our
Speaker 1: early jokes, and boy was there some crap being discussed.
Speaker 1: It was yeah, well, uh, but I'm happy to be
Speaker 1: here and I love Groundhog Day genuinely. So yeah, tell
Speaker 1: us about when you first saw this movie. Well, it
Speaker 1: came out in what nine? Uh that sounds right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I saw it, Okay, So I saw it in the
Speaker 1: theater and it was a delight because it is um
Speaker 1: who's in it? Who's yep, it's her name is God,
Speaker 1: I've already forgotten. Uh, Chris Elliott, Oh, just the man,
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Bechtel past. We can only remember the
Speaker 1: men's names. And classic problem character. His name is Rita.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. It's Oh Andy McDowell, that's it.
Speaker 1: It's Andy McDowell, that's right. But I couldn't remember either,
Speaker 1: so I I we both failed the Becktel test. We
Speaker 1: both failed the Betel test. And uh but the yeah,
Speaker 1: it was yeah, Bill Murray and Annie McDowell and it
Speaker 1: was and dan Ackroid No, no, no, dan Ackroid was
Speaker 1: in something else that year he was still working in
Speaker 1: front of the camera, which is an error, but um,
Speaker 1: the Yeah, and and Chris Elliot, who he was one
Speaker 1: of my favorite characters that Chris Elliott. Did he just
Speaker 1: refer to himself in the third Did he just call
Speaker 1: himself as the talent? The talent? Oh? Yeah, some great line,
Speaker 1: it really does. And but I saw it in the theater,
Speaker 1: and I think I saw more than once in the
Speaker 1: theater just because it made me laugh to see it again,
Speaker 1: because it's such it's because that's the joke. Yes, I
Speaker 1: saw it, not in the theater. I would have been
Speaker 1: probably seven years old, but I didn't. I saw it
Speaker 1: not long after that like earlier early years. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: saw it mid nineties. Yeah, on VHS. My grandma had
Speaker 1: it and then my mom bought it eventually and we
Speaker 1: had the reason for that is that I actually grew
Speaker 1: up very close to pont Sitani, Pennsylvania. My mom is
Speaker 1: from there, so that's why my grandma had it, who
Speaker 1: is like a very ultra conservative, militant Christian woman who
Speaker 1: I think he sounds like a probably to hang out.
Speaker 1: Oh yep, I haven't spoken to about a decade um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, this movie I'm sure is a bit lost
Speaker 1: on her, especially because they make fun of like small
Speaker 1: town culture in it a lot. And she was just like, Oh,
Speaker 1: this movie takes place where I live right now. How cool?
Speaker 1: Well and luckily though, is it was you have that movie?
Speaker 1: I grew up only movies that take place in Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: There's like freaking Bird on a Wire, which is a
Speaker 1: I think Goldie Hawn and the guy who hates Jews
Speaker 1: a lethal enforcer, lethal weapon, Mel Gibson, There we go
Speaker 1: and um the so Mel it was? And Goldie Hawn
Speaker 1: screams through the entire movie. And at one point on
Speaker 1: Bird on a Wire they have a chase scene through
Speaker 1: the chinatown of Racine, Wisconsin. Let me tell you that
Speaker 1: that does not exist. There is like one place that
Speaker 1: has a buffet and that buffet has pudding. So that
Speaker 1: is not. But oh you do not need to that
Speaker 1: is not. That's not. And I like Mel Gibson's movies
Speaker 1: and Jews together so and apart and so um, but yeah,
Speaker 1: Bird on a Wire is not a movie that anyone
Speaker 1: needs to see. All right, I shall I shall not.
Speaker 1: You know what movie you guys should do? Though? Pardon me?
Speaker 1: Will I totally weed off is a Private Benjamin. I have, Alison,
Speaker 1: never seen that movie saving Private Bench. That is actually
Speaker 1: not the name of the Private Benjamin. I wonder about
Speaker 1: the Bechtel Test with Private Benjamin. I only the only
Speaker 1: thing I know about it is what I remember from
Speaker 1: like the like the VHS cover of it, because it
Speaker 1: was always it was like prominently displayed in the video
Speaker 1: store where I grew up, and I just remember, like
Speaker 1: a woman with long blondish hair gold is that it's
Speaker 1: going on. I didn't even know. I didn't even like
Speaker 1: I didn't recognize her at the time, so I didn't
Speaker 1: like even make the connection. And I think she might
Speaker 1: be wearing like fatigues and helmet or something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's worried because she she's a socialite, much like Overboard.
Speaker 1: She is a fancy socialite lady, but who joins the army.
Speaker 1: And uh. I was going to college when Private Benjamin
Speaker 1: came out, and my friends and I used to constantly
Speaker 1: quote the I want to go shopping. I would have
Speaker 1: out to lunch. I want to be normal again. All
Speaker 1: through through through Basic it was essentially Private Benjamin, I
Speaker 1: think came out. It was like the the Um riding
Speaker 1: on the back end coattails of Stripes. So another movie
Speaker 1: I've never seen. Oh really, Stripes may or may parts
Speaker 1: of it hold up parts of it do not. Harold Ramis,
Speaker 1: I love you dearly. Yeah. He directed and co wrote
Speaker 1: this movie Groundhog Day. Yes he did, and he did
Speaker 1: vital work because this movie is great. Yes. Uh one
Speaker 1: of my favorite animals. Yeah, it really does. Although we'll
Speaker 1: talk about this later on, but there's I have some
Speaker 1: problems with the ending that I didn't have before. Only
Speaker 1: on this recent revisit only the third time you saw
Speaker 1: it this week? Right, Okay, I've seen it every day
Speaker 1: every day of my life, over and over. I lived
Speaker 1: the same day over and over again. Um, there's other
Speaker 1: days that you could be reliving over and over again,
Speaker 1: great days, great days where you're on a beach somewhere
Speaker 1: into EATI yeah, yeah, yeah, Well i'd have to do
Speaker 1: that first and then and then relive that. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: still haven't done that. Uh. So yeah, you said, do
Speaker 1: you watch this movie every year? Once a year, right
Speaker 1: at the end of Christmas. It's the it's the last
Speaker 1: of my Christmas movies. I always I watch it goes
Speaker 1: from holiday and to Groundhog Day, Holiday and is every holiday,
Speaker 1: and now it goes holiday in Deadpool, which is every
Speaker 1: holiday all the way to um groundhog Day, and so
Speaker 1: um this year was weird because I was traveling so much.
Speaker 1: I didn't get to watch most of the Christmas movies
Speaker 1: I got to watch because I I get home and
Speaker 1: I would just sleep forever. But and so I haven't
Speaker 1: actually seen Groundhog Day this year. So I last time
Speaker 1: I saw it was one year ago. But but Groundhog
Speaker 1: Day is coming up, it is, so I can I
Speaker 1: can watch to release in this episode. Well, we're such
Speaker 1: genius marketing people. You guys know how to do it,
Speaker 1: you guys. Oh yeah, you don't have a Valentine's Day
Speaker 1: coming up here? Movie? Well we were. I think we're
Speaker 1: going to do Titanic for Valentine's Day. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that would involve you watching Titanic. I love Titanic. We
Speaker 1: talked engine it maybe once an episode on this podcast.
Speaker 1: It's covered now, it's covered now, really Titanic. You know,
Speaker 1: there's always I've always had a friend of mine has
Speaker 1: a great and he and he's not he's he makes
Speaker 1: video games. So if anyone makes this movie, please give
Speaker 1: all the money to Brian Upton as creator. But this
Speaker 1: is the greatest TV show idea that I've ever heard,
Speaker 1: based on Titanic. It would be set on the Titanic.
Speaker 1: It will be one hour long, and every episode the
Speaker 1: Titanic sinks, and every episode you follow a different person
Speaker 1: or family, right, and then much like Groundhog Day, you
Speaker 1: would see them in the background. And what you could
Speaker 1: do is you every scene every episode could at least
Speaker 1: have one scene with the band, right, because the band
Speaker 1: made everything altogether. They tie everything all together, and you're like, hey,
Speaker 1: that guy died in the last episode. Hey that woman
Speaker 1: lived in the last episode or whatever. Right, So it
Speaker 1: would be at least how many people were on the
Speaker 1: Titanic A thousand. I closer to three thousand episodes. You
Speaker 1: guys are three hundred episodes, right, if we're talking couples
Speaker 1: and families. I would definitely watch. Oh I think you would.
Speaker 1: I think you would. But wouldn't it be great? Like
Speaker 1: because you would follow somebody and you're like, how did
Speaker 1: they do they live? And you'll find out at the end,
Speaker 1: At the end of every episode, you'd find out whether
Speaker 1: the people you followed, whether they were dirt bags or
Speaker 1: they were you know, hard, hard working in steerage whatever
Speaker 1: they were doing. Oh, that's a great idea. I will
Speaker 1: give it them all my money. Which is and groundhog
Speaker 1: right right and ground and it's Groundhog Day adjacent as
Speaker 1: a topic. Hey, welcome to the Back Toel cast. This
Speaker 1: is Caitlin Durante. I'm doing the joke again. We're just
Speaker 1: the song. Do you remember what the song was? Yes? Uh,
Speaker 1: sunny and share right. Yeah, that's right. There ain't no
Speaker 1: Hiler mountain we can climb. It's important that I made
Speaker 1: you sing. I resent you for it a lot. I
Speaker 1: have the worst singing voice in the world, and also
Speaker 1: the worst voice period. I don't know why anyone listens
Speaker 1: to this. I hate the sound of Welcome to the podcast,
Speaker 1: where it does not enjoy your own voice. No, it
Speaker 1: feels a need to speak out loud repeatedly. Gone back
Speaker 1: and listen to different episodes, and I'm just like, holy crap,
Speaker 1: I'm the slowest talker in the world. I use so
Speaker 1: many vocal fillers. I think I say okay, so yeah, um,
Speaker 1: so yeah that whole bit. Oh. I have been mocked
Speaker 1: openly for here's the thing. So I got off stage
Speaker 1: in Australia one time. I'm yeah, I've been to Australia
Speaker 1: as whole Jackie anyway. So um, but I got off
Speaker 1: stage in one of the women producer Women says, twenty
Speaker 1: six times you said here's the thing twenty six times
Speaker 1: in a twenty five minutes set, and I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: that's one more than minutes. And I said, this's a
Speaker 1: lot of new material. And I'd say here's the thing.
Speaker 1: When I'm nervous, more than if it's a new joke,
Speaker 1: I'll swear or say here's the thing more uh. And
Speaker 1: then because I'm trying to desperately get to the punchline
Speaker 1: and so it is filler though. Yeah, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1: I'm trying. I'm like trying to make better habits. I
Speaker 1: also do this clicking thing with my mouth a lot.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get rid of that. Oh God, so
Speaker 1: bear with me, audience of the Backel all growing together,
Speaker 1: we're growing beautiful. So so we so can we talk
Speaker 1: about the movie? I guess yeah, I mean she'll show
Speaker 1: up and then again and that'll be that'll be fun. Um.
Speaker 1: I yeah, I grew up in the area, so this
Speaker 1: movie was a huge part of my life and from
Speaker 1: an early age. Yeah. Uh, and I have seen it
Speaker 1: probably twenty five times and I love it a lot. Uh.
Speaker 1: We usually start off the discussion by me, to everyone's dismay,
Speaker 1: giving a recap of the story. Let me get oh yes,
Speaker 1: so get your pop garn and everyone, uh and buckle
Speaker 1: in for Caitlin's famous recaps. Um. We meet Bill Murray.
Speaker 1: He's a weather man. Uh. He has to go to
Speaker 1: Punksitani every year for Groundhog Day to cover the story
Speaker 1: for uh. For that it's starting off so well so far.
Speaker 1: And then his producer, this woman named Rita, goes with
Speaker 1: him as well as like a cameraman Larry, and they're
Speaker 1: all there and he really hates this town. He hates
Speaker 1: punks Tony, he hates this Groundhog Day tradition. Uh. And
Speaker 1: he gets there and he does it and everything's fine,
Speaker 1: except they can't leave because there's a blizzard, so they're
Speaker 1: stuck there. And then the next morning he wakes up
Speaker 1: and it's the same day over again. It's Groundhog Day again,
Speaker 1: and only he is reliving this day and he relives
Speaker 1: it over and over and over again. And it's really
Speaker 1: just a story about his sort of personal growth and
Speaker 1: character arc about how he starts out being this very mean,
Speaker 1: total dick uh cynical, selfish guy, and he has to learn.
Speaker 1: Over the course of the story, he falls in love
Speaker 1: with Rita, and he has to learn that to be
Speaker 1: able to both get her and then also kind of
Speaker 1: move on with his life, and in have to live
Speaker 1: Groundhog Day over and over again. He has to like uh,
Speaker 1: grow and become live in the moment, in the moment,
Speaker 1: and he has one day too. If you had one
Speaker 1: day to live, what would it be? How would you
Speaker 1: would you go? Rob? Would you would you sleep with
Speaker 1: as many people in that town as you could? Every again?
Speaker 1: Somebody interviewed Harold Raymis one time and asked him how
Speaker 1: many days they thought it took the Bill Murray character
Speaker 1: to grow, and Harold Ramis said it was over a
Speaker 1: thousand days, a thousand times or something like that, So
Speaker 1: it checks out. I've heard different numbers. I've heard someone's
Speaker 1: like ten thousand years, Like no way, but it's at
Speaker 1: least long enough for him to master the piano. Which sculpture?
Speaker 1: Have you seen it? Aristotle has not seen ground outside Gyes.
Speaker 1: What February six, Why don't you explain for our international
Speaker 1: listeners what Groundhog Day is? So many international listening time.
Speaker 1: Actually shout out to my good friend British Martha who
Speaker 1: is in the UK at least one at least one Um,
Speaker 1: so hey Martha, but yes, explain groundhog Day to the period.
Speaker 1: Hog Day is a holiday that takes place in Punkstani,
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania every year where a literal groundhog, which is a
Speaker 1: giant rat rodent squirrel thing uh is pulled out of
Speaker 1: a ground and he's whether like, if he sees his shadow,
Speaker 1: that means there's going to be six more weeks of
Speaker 1: winter if he does not see a show. It's based
Speaker 1: on this weird old wives tale or old like. I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's international, if it's worldwide wherever there
Speaker 1: are groundhogs, um, but supposedly it's it is a future
Speaker 1: teller of how much more winters there's going to be
Speaker 1: because of some weird ground squirrel. As Bill Murray would say,
Speaker 1: a clairvoyant rodent knows whether or not there's an early
Speaker 1: spring happening. So it's a very dumb holiday. I grew
Speaker 1: like I said, I grew up about twenty miles away
Speaker 1: from punk Satani in a town called Brookville, Pennsylvania. Go Rockets.
Speaker 1: What was the it's much more racist than that. We
Speaker 1: were the Raiders. Our mascot was like an Indian chief.
Speaker 1: Interesting chief. You would have thought they would have been.
Speaker 1: I mean, raiders could be anybody, right, it could be yeah,
Speaker 1: like they could be pirates, but they went with the
Speaker 1: Native American motif of raider. Yeah. Interesting, interesting, the interesting
Speaker 1: and would have been zoro. Yeah. I trold them a
Speaker 1: lot on my high school's Twitter account and they never respond.
Speaker 1: Are you muted? Do you think maybe because you're not blocked?
Speaker 1: But I don't even think they understand what they're doing
Speaker 1: is racist, And it's maybe that that's what it is.
Speaker 1: Pick a different like, what's the Oakland Raider logo? Isn't
Speaker 1: that more of a like a pirraty? Oh? I think so?
Speaker 1: Aristotle nodding, But I'm like their version of Raider is
Speaker 1: more like the Redskins, where it's like, oh, look at
Speaker 1: these raiders and raping and pillager Indian. So yeah, it's
Speaker 1: very racist and I don't like that town and I
Speaker 1: never go back. But I know so my sister says
Speaker 1: that about our town. She's like, I can't believe you
Speaker 1: have any nostalgia about this town. Can't you see what
Speaker 1: this town needs. And I said what she said, uh, um,
Speaker 1: a propellant a match. It was like some sort of
Speaker 1: like a like a like a neat Chicago fire is
Speaker 1: what she wants it to happen? And she says it
Speaker 1: can't you see what this stone needs, like some sort
Speaker 1: of propellant in a match? So well, I pulled out
Speaker 1: the election results for Jefferson County, Pennsylvania, which is where
Speaker 1: both Brookville and punk Saitani are located. How do they do?
Speaker 1: How they do? Uh? Poorly? Fifteen thousand people slash seventy
Speaker 1: seven percent voted for Trump. Uhift thousand out of the
Speaker 1: like sixty thousand who lived there. Yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 1: very small. Nice work. Everybody in the Pennsylvania people voted
Speaker 1: for Clinton and that was only voted for Trump. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: excellently excellent. It's uh, this is those are the same
Speaker 1: people who are always complaining whatever. There's like a riot
Speaker 1: in a poor neighborhood. They're like, they're breaking their own stuff,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you're breaking America because you've got a
Speaker 1: temper tan from because you're not being handed twenties under
Speaker 1: the table. Um, grow up, right? So what were we
Speaker 1: talking about? Groundhog Day Day. There we go. Let's move forward.
Speaker 1: So that town is it? Does it look like the
Speaker 1: town in the movie actually do a nice job. They
Speaker 1: don't shoot on location. I think they shot in uh,
Speaker 1: like different small towns in Illinois. I want to say, Um,
Speaker 1: I think they got a few like establishing shots actually
Speaker 1: in Punksatani, Pennsylvania. But it's mostly not shot there. But
Speaker 1: it does resemble it quite a bit. Um My dentist
Speaker 1: was in punk Cy. That's what we call it. Nice,
Speaker 1: that's the cool kids called so I went there a
Speaker 1: couple of times. That's what the locals call it. Um.
Speaker 1: So we So then we jump into a discussion about
Speaker 1: who the characters are. We've got Rita is the main
Speaker 1: female character, player Andy McDowell, whose name we now know,
Speaker 1: we know and I can forget it later exactly we
Speaker 1: so she is pretty much the only primary female character.
Speaker 1: And then we have a few like secondary ones, which
Speaker 1: are Mrs Lancaster, she runs the bed and Breakfast, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: we have her. We have Nancy, who is the woman
Speaker 1: that uh Phil Connors Murray like kind of seduces in
Speaker 1: a very manipulative way by being like, Hey, who's your
Speaker 1: English teacher? Who was where'd you go to high school?
Speaker 1: He spends a week asking her backstory and then pretending
Speaker 1: to go to high school with yeah. Yeah, And it's
Speaker 1: very manipulative, but and it doesn't end up working, and
Speaker 1: they like make out a little bit. But then I
Speaker 1: don't know if they had because Squirrel noises when yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: when she has an orgasm, which means that he does
Speaker 1: care about the enjoyment of his partner in the sack.
Speaker 1: That is important. Good. That's the only redeeming quality of
Speaker 1: Bill Murray at this point in that character. Uh, there's her,
Speaker 1: there's his piano teacher who gets not very much screen time,
Speaker 1: and that's and then like the waitress at the diner
Speaker 1: that they the tall lady you want Doris who wants
Speaker 1: to go to Paris, Yes, exactly, Okay, And then uh,
Speaker 1: we have Phil Connors that Kate. Bill Murray's our our
Speaker 1: leading man. And then the other sort of secondary male
Speaker 1: characters are Larry Ak, Chris Elliott, the camera guy, Ned Ryerson,
Speaker 1: ned Ryerson, Ned the Nose, needle Nose, Ned Ned the
Speaker 1: Head and the Head. Also Buster Green and his like
Speaker 1: other ground Hug Dave Cronies, all those guys who wear
Speaker 1: the tuxes and pull the ground hug out of the
Speaker 1: ground and stuff. Um, so it's races. I like those
Speaker 1: two drunks from the Bowling Out. One of them is
Speaker 1: played by Rick Overton, who I had the pleasure of
Speaker 1: doing a show with recently. Wit is that Rick Overton? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the guy who plays Ralph who wants the flapjacks. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's Rick Overton. Didn't didn't, Nope, nope. I whenever I
Speaker 1: see Rick Overton, all I can think of is Willow. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I didn't. You never saw Willow us the wand Willow
Speaker 1: will use the wand anyway. It's essentially um Lord of
Speaker 1: the Rings, um done correctly in an hour. And it's
Speaker 1: because it's just it's Ron Howard. Ron Howard directed it.
Speaker 1: And it's crantastic sword and sorcery. Uh, it's it's the
Speaker 1: it's a it's a sort of a princess bride. But hey,
Speaker 1: listen to that episode of the Bechtel Cast everyone with
Speaker 1: Princess Brad. Yeah we did did. Yeah, Mike Kaplan was
Speaker 1: our guest. You might like Willow because I'll tell you something.
Speaker 1: It does pass the Bechtel test. Willow does that's interesting
Speaker 1: or does it now, maybe not. Most movies don't. Most
Speaker 1: movies don't, and if they do it, they do it
Speaker 1: like very half acidly right all of a sudden they're
Speaker 1: talking about lunch or something. Right, Okay, fair enough. I
Speaker 1: have been recommended Willow, though I think I would like
Speaker 1: it based my own Willow. People, um what when when
Speaker 1: Lord of the Rings came out, I was un popular
Speaker 1: opinion was that Lord of the Rings was a very
Speaker 1: very long version of Willow because people hate Willow, and
Speaker 1: they're wrong, by the way, Willow is a delight and
Speaker 1: the Lord of the Rings is beautiful, but way too long.
Speaker 1: It's nine it's nine hours long and doesn't stay true
Speaker 1: to the book. So you have to pretend you haven't
Speaker 1: read the book to enjoy Lord of the Rings. I
Speaker 1: do enjoy Lord of the Rings, but I also have
Speaker 1: not read the book book right. As an action movie,
Speaker 1: it is excellent, a little long, but excellent. And as
Speaker 1: a person who's read the book, it's a different movie.
Speaker 1: It's a different movie than the book, and you're like,
Speaker 1: I see what you're doing here. Same with the Hobbit. Oh,
Speaker 1: the Hobbit, I can't get behind it all. Oh. I
Speaker 1: actually the movie trilogy that they chapter book for kids,
Speaker 1: right something that was eight chapters. They turned into three
Speaker 1: movies and then the last one was a little brutal anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't care for any of them really, but um
Speaker 1: and because it's Tolking doesn't even have a shot at
Speaker 1: the Betel of course. Yeah, there you go, we have.
Speaker 1: So those are our characters. Uh so I guess we
Speaker 1: focus on Rita who I like Rita. I don't necessarily
Speaker 1: like Andy McDonald that much. Uh And I think I'm
Speaker 1: basing this on the fact that I hated Four Weddings
Speaker 1: and a Funeral so much it was not my movie
Speaker 1: of choice either, but I grant I yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I can't. I don't remember. But I like her and
Speaker 1: I like her character in this movie because she's pretty
Speaker 1: much the only character who's not depicted as being a
Speaker 1: total fuddy duddy apart from Bill Murray Watch your language.
Speaker 1: What do you mean they're funny duddy just like a baffling,
Speaker 1: bumbling buffoon alliteration baby like an idiot? Yeah? Okay, so yeah,
Speaker 1: because almost everyone is not what a funny duddy is?
Speaker 1: What's a funny duddy? Wrong? Yeah, I think a funny
Speaker 1: Duddy is more stuffy, is more pompous and kind of
Speaker 1: self righteous and funny Duddy than I don't know what
Speaker 1: words are, but you very easily could be right now,
Speaker 1: I could be wrong. But I will say this is
Speaker 1: that she is not an idiot. I will say that
Speaker 1: she the every other character is kind of dumb, even
Speaker 1: the gay waiter, he's the only he's he literally seems
Speaker 1: like this one line. He's one line. He seems to
Speaker 1: be the smartest second person in that movie. He did
Speaker 1: go to Penn State. Hey baby, I went to Penn
Speaker 1: State too, Right, So, now that I think about it,
Speaker 1: he is genuinely the second smartest person the next past.
Speaker 1: That's hilarious. But yeah, she's she's like, she's sick, she's smart.
Speaker 1: She doesn't like take anyone's ship, she doesn't take anyone ship,
Speaker 1: but she has compassion and she she's like, no, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to be mean for the sake of being mean,
Speaker 1: but you also cannot be mean to me. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: she's like a person. Everybody else is a little bit
Speaker 1: of a caricature. Yeah, totally. And he's a disaster. The
Speaker 1: Phil Phil Connors character, that guy is a um. He
Speaker 1: deserves ten thousand days of that's not much time he
Speaker 1: needs to like not be an asshole. Yeah, she kind
Speaker 1: of nails it on the first day, and she and
Speaker 1: he's just like, well, I don't know how to be
Speaker 1: a person in the world. Um so yeah, I didn't
Speaker 1: necessarily pay that much attention to her character before these
Speaker 1: like this rewatch, but um, she's she's good at her
Speaker 1: job too. I mean, she's competent producer. She and she's
Speaker 1: just a strong, smart you could kind of like who
Speaker 1: wrote it. It wasn't Harold Ramis who wrote it, wasn't
Speaker 1: Danny Rubin, Okay, it's like story and then he has
Speaker 1: a written by credit. Okay, yeah, because whoever, Like whatever,
Speaker 1: you watch a movie that's written and the in the
Speaker 1: main woman character is sort of sane and not shrill
Speaker 1: or just I mean, she was like she she just
Speaker 1: seemed super competent and yet still attractive and still you
Speaker 1: know all and then and Bill Murray making cracks about
Speaker 1: how well you want to be with me? You know,
Speaker 1: you just I mean, that's that's what women have to
Speaker 1: deal with in the workplace, where he was like, oh,
Speaker 1: the hilarity, the hilarity of we're trying to get some
Speaker 1: work done over here. Why do you have to mention
Speaker 1: the fact that we're never going to have sex. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's so, that's what kind of bugged me about this
Speaker 1: movie on this rewatch about specifically the end, because if
Speaker 1: you think about it, they spend, as far as she knows,
Speaker 1: until the very last scene, they spend two days together.
Speaker 1: It's a bunch of different days for him on Groundhog
Speaker 1: Day February, but she's still every single day that they
Speaker 1: see each other as far as she started. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: pretty because they spend a day. There's day one where
Speaker 1: they leave Pittsburgh and drive to Punksitani. There's day two
Speaker 1: where they wake up and do the weather broadcast thing,
Speaker 1: and then so it's that second day where they spend
Speaker 1: most of the time. But by the end, he's like,
Speaker 1: I love you, I'm happy. This is the happiest ever been.
Speaker 1: And she's like, I think I'm happy too, and they
Speaker 1: like she like totally bought like him yesterday, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he has spent all this time falling in love with
Speaker 1: you and getting to know you. But still you didn't
Speaker 1: know this guy from Adam right yesterday. It's a clear
Speaker 1: sign that every and this isn't just women. But I
Speaker 1: think it is a clear sign that people are just
Speaker 1: drawn to the fact that like, oh my god, this
Speaker 1: person loves everything about me. I love me, and look
Speaker 1: how interested they are in me. And so it doesn't
Speaker 1: actually bode well for her personality either or her character,
Speaker 1: not especially, but well they show it. He tries that earlier.
Speaker 1: He like, she's in his bed and breakfast room. He's like,
Speaker 1: I've got ice cream on the window, sill I love you,
Speaker 1: and she's like, you love me, you don't even know me,
Speaker 1: and then she loves him in the face and leaves.
Speaker 1: It happens again later in the movie. This time it
Speaker 1: works because he's like, I love you and she's like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: let's okay, let's live here. Yeah, and let's let's live
Speaker 1: in Punky. That's like one of the last lines in
Speaker 1: the movie, which is the knife in your heart. Oh hey,
Speaker 1: guess who's here. It's Jamie Loftus. Hello, good to see you, guys. Hello,
Speaker 1: we've been talking about groundhog Day. Hello, and welcome to
Speaker 1: the Bechtel cast. Is Yeah, it's like we've actually just
Speaker 1: been shooting the ship for we have done some of that.
Speaker 1: We we pretty much just got into talking about Rita
Speaker 1: I'll read okay, cool, Yeah, I love I love Frida
Speaker 1: read It's pretty good, right. I was having like a
Speaker 1: lot of groundhog Day style thoughts on the way over here,
Speaker 1: just like what what could I have done differently if
Speaker 1: you had, if you had a thousand days to learn
Speaker 1: to play the piano? And I sculpt and I love
Speaker 1: the choices poetry because like, you know what, these are
Speaker 1: the things that I've been wanting to do this whole time,
Speaker 1: But they weren't the things he wanted to do. There
Speaker 1: were things wanted for him or like wanted out of
Speaker 1: a man, and then he just sort of molded himself
Speaker 1: into that. That's true. Talk about a dream come true, ladies,
Speaker 1: I like to see. I'm not opposed to that, just
Speaker 1: having a man change everything about himself, every whim take
Speaker 1: all the time they needed, text me when you're great
Speaker 1: at all my interests. We were just talking about how
Speaker 1: interested he wasn't her, and how much we love that
Speaker 1: when someone is interesting in us. Oh my gosh, I
Speaker 1: love it. See. I have the more like uh Groucho
Speaker 1: marks approach to romance where I'm like, oh, you like me,
Speaker 1: you want to be my boyfriend? I would never want
Speaker 1: to be boyfriends with someone who would want me as
Speaker 1: a girl. And then you stomp away. That'll show him.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, anybody anything, anybody just gone yeah, so wait,
Speaker 1: what were you thinking about on the way over here? Oh?
Speaker 1: Just different ways that that didn't have That couldn't have
Speaker 1: happened because you were your cars in the shop and
Speaker 1: you had to take well know, I ended up I
Speaker 1: ended up arguing my way back into getting my car
Speaker 1: back today because there I went to get an oil
Speaker 1: chance and they're like, actually, everything is wrong with it.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, in that case, I'll just take
Speaker 1: it back, and then I and then I was waiting,
Speaker 1: and then the mechanic was like, doing what are you
Speaker 1: doing tonight? I was like, I'm going to be in
Speaker 1: my car far away from here. Um oh that's that
Speaker 1: seemed that's interesting. Yeah. It was a very smooth transition
Speaker 1: from me being very frustrated that he's still led in
Speaker 1: my car, just like maybe just stay forever, right like
Speaker 1: punks of to maybe you were going to move to
Speaker 1: maybe you lease first. It wasn't ye what you could
Speaker 1: have said when he was like, hey, what are you
Speaker 1: doing tonight? You could be like you could still steal
Speaker 1: Bill Murray's line and just be like something else. That's
Speaker 1: what he says to Yeah, something else. I would love
Speaker 1: to have the confidence to actually flat out say that
Speaker 1: to someone, just like I don't want to I don't
Speaker 1: want you, Yeah, I don't want to hang out. Instead,
Speaker 1: it's like, let me just be quiet you. If I
Speaker 1: am silent, you will eventually go away, exactly. Except the
Speaker 1: people who don't leave when you're silent, those are the
Speaker 1: scary ones. Yeah, that's terrifying. They're like, I can wait. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta use your words. It's a confrontation is super scary,
Speaker 1: but eventually you just have to go I need a
Speaker 1: raise and and then they look at you. And the
Speaker 1: first time I ever asked for a raise, my boss said,
Speaker 1: you're not good at this at all. And I said,
Speaker 1: uh's first time I'm doing it. It doesn't matter if
Speaker 1: I'm good at it or not. I need a race.
Speaker 1: And he was like wow, And I said, yeah, so
Speaker 1: what do you How should I have asked? And can
Speaker 1: I have a race? And did you get it? I did? Oh,
Speaker 1: that's great. He just powered through, is what I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: At the age of nineteen, I did. I did that
Speaker 1: once last year. I won't say the name of the employer,
Speaker 1: but I think you know who. I went to Disney.
Speaker 1: It was it was I used to be the CEO
Speaker 1: of Roy Disney. You asked Roy Disney, I'm gonna need
Speaker 1: a golden parachute. And then I went and I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: I think that maybe I should get enough money to
Speaker 1: pay for the place I live in. And I like
Speaker 1: didn't make any eye contact, and I was like, maybe
Speaker 1: you know this is gonna sound crazy, And then he
Speaker 1: looked he made eye contact with me, and he was like, Jamie,
Speaker 1: come on. And I was like, but here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I would love to have a home and and he
Speaker 1: was like, uh, we'll discuss it. And then later on
Speaker 1: I got like a Starbucks gift card. It didn't work. Work,
Speaker 1: But the thing is is you you took the first
Speaker 1: step because the next time you go in make eye
Speaker 1: contact as hard as it goes and goes. I and
Speaker 1: and and if because when he said come on, he
Speaker 1: was essentially saying what my T shirt boss was saying,
Speaker 1: which was not good at this at all. And like
Speaker 1: just go, yeah, I don't have to be good at it.
Speaker 1: We're doing this right. The conversation has begun. Yes, we're
Speaker 1: not going to talk about it. We're talking about to
Speaker 1: summon the strength for a follow up question or an ultimatum. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's the I mean that's Ultimatums are the worst.
Speaker 1: I'm so terrible at ultimatums because I don't want to
Speaker 1: follow through with them. What do you mean? No, I
Speaker 1: guess I said I would leave me. I'm gonna need
Speaker 1: another job before I say I'm gonna leave. We were
Speaker 1: talking to yeah, I'm sorry to just know I'm not
Speaker 1: having to have here. We were talking about how uh.
Speaker 1: Part Way into the movie, um, Phil Connors is like, Rita,
Speaker 1: I love you, and she's like, I'm not falling you, creep?
Speaker 1: How could you love me? You don't even know who
Speaker 1: I am? But glad did you ask all my friends
Speaker 1: and ask him what I like? Weirdo? And I would
Speaker 1: argue that that's kind of weird to call someone's friends
Speaker 1: and be like, hey, that is weird, but that's and
Speaker 1: that's what she called him on right. But then just
Speaker 1: an hour later or ten thousand days later, he's like,
Speaker 1: I love you and she's like and she believes him
Speaker 1: this time, because yes, he's problem he is a better
Speaker 1: person now. Well not even that she believe. Well, I
Speaker 1: mean again, she met him the day before, but she
Speaker 1: did watch him do like crazy ass like people coming up.
Speaker 1: But he's got wrestling tickets for the guy and he
Speaker 1: played the piano really well. See, I don't know the
Speaker 1: rules of this movie, and like how the world works
Speaker 1: are pretty vague, so I don't know. In theory, we're
Speaker 1: getting the same uh rita every day with the same
Speaker 1: approach to everything. But I could see myself on certain
Speaker 1: days being told that by an almost complete stranger of
Speaker 1: being like gross, I hate it. And then it just
Speaker 1: depends why Moody catch me. I didn't think about that.
Speaker 1: I'm just so cynical that and the pitch exact, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he does change it up pharatic. What do you guys
Speaker 1: think about the injustice of the fact that he learns
Speaker 1: how to play the piano super well for just a
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, Like he every day he gives that woman
Speaker 1: that thousand dollars, and then at the end of those
Speaker 1: ten thousand days he's an amazing pianist and at the
Speaker 1: next when he breaks the curse, he should definitely give
Speaker 1: her like at least five or six more. Yeah, just
Speaker 1: even though she won't know, she'll never know. She sunk
Speaker 1: a ton of time into it. She has no idea
Speaker 1: that she's an amazing his first lesson what Yeah, he
Speaker 1: has a gift. I wish I learned to play the piano,
Speaker 1: me too, Yeah you learned that? Was it? The elbow? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've got my elbow in my car right now. Could
Speaker 1: keep it there just in case. It's a real good ambisher.
Speaker 1: It's a great ambisher. Yeah. Yeah, it's got those double
Speaker 1: read thing. Yeah. I played a clarinet poorly. Poorly. I
Speaker 1: actually played the clarinet, yeah, and then trumpet when I
Speaker 1: wanted to be a marching band and there were too
Speaker 1: many clarinetists and I was like, trumpets shiny or anyway,
Speaker 1: so they're tricky, amisher, Yeah, yeah, you mix it up up.
Speaker 1: My sister loved the French horn. She played the French
Speaker 1: She was violinist, though she went violent viola and then
Speaker 1: she went French horn and trombone. I love, and she
Speaker 1: liked all of the instruments I played, including her own instruments,
Speaker 1: so she was I hid in a book, She hid
Speaker 1: in a pile of instruments, and in our child, which
Speaker 1: is a more which is a more effective hiding. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's louder. Yeah, hers is a lot louder. So I
Speaker 1: always think about my parents allowing encouraging us to have instruments.
Speaker 1: Anyone who would encourage their child learned violin. You're like,
Speaker 1: you got a year and a half of Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you're paying for that, and you're paying for that to happen.
Speaker 1: It feels like good parenting in retrospect. Yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: that's someone who cares, someone who's more patient than I am.
Speaker 1: They're volunteering. Yeah, I never practiced my obo, and I
Speaker 1: think my parents were like kind of grateful, like, you
Speaker 1: know what, there's no way this ends well. So but music, music, music,
Speaker 1: the gift of music. Yeah. And if you're a man
Speaker 1: and you play music, you're gonna get all the chicks,
Speaker 1: because chick especially if you play the uh, they get
Speaker 1: a ton of ass. It's wild. It goes just me
Speaker 1: and and two other very quiet girls. Right, you will date,
Speaker 1: You will find a nice que if you like a
Speaker 1: nice quiet girl play the obo young, Yeah, you'll you'll
Speaker 1: be sitting right next to them and they will be sweating.
Speaker 1: They will also need action. Yes, and everybody needs love.
Speaker 1: They're very horny and quiet, quietly wanting a little bit
Speaker 1: sinister too. Um God day, Hello and welcome to the
Speaker 1: Bectel Casts. On your host, Calin drowns, like, I keep
Speaker 1: doing this joke over everyone has a hot bit. Uh
Speaker 1: what was I saying? I said yes to that mechanic? Okay,
Speaker 1: well you could have met him somewhere for coffee or something.
Speaker 1: That's true. It's being so nice, and I was just like,
Speaker 1: but what I gotta go, I gotta go. You could
Speaker 1: have just said, well, you seem nice. We could meet
Speaker 1: for coffee and give him your email address instead of
Speaker 1: your phone number, and then you could it could be less.
Speaker 1: I'll see tomorrow. Oh there you go that you want
Speaker 1: to go inside Sears. Inside, there's gotta be a Starbucks
Speaker 1: right by Sears that you could be there you go.
Speaker 1: It's it's sort of like it's sort of like an
Speaker 1: innet date, but in real life. I don't understand what's happened.
Speaker 1: Here is a gentleman who has seen you alive walking
Speaker 1: around has said, I like, whatever this is that sounds perverted.
Speaker 1: It does seem to be a little weird at the
Speaker 1: state late date, but you could at least talk to
Speaker 1: him for an hour and then you could find out.
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, this didn't work, but I bet I
Speaker 1: would get a discount on my car. Oh well, I'll
Speaker 1: show a business minded move. Interesting, interesting life choice. You
Speaker 1: could find a coupon a Sears coupon groundhog days. I
Speaker 1: want this to just keep playing over every day. This
Speaker 1: is the day that I want. This is the day
Speaker 1: when she gets hit on every day strong arms or
Speaker 1: way out of the sears. I want that for you
Speaker 1: every day. Thank you so much, And looks how evolved
Speaker 1: I am. I didn't even need like I want something
Speaker 1: for someone else. I don't even want something for myself.
Speaker 1: That is nice. Now, I'm not going to be put
Speaker 1: off when you say that you love me, Oh Jamie,
Speaker 1: I love you nice. Did you just did you just
Speaker 1: give someone wrestling tickets? If so? Right? And then you
Speaker 1: I'm like, maneuvered, dude, I would It would be hard
Speaker 1: for me to tell someone who had just done a
Speaker 1: series of pretty kind things like funck off. You know,
Speaker 1: even if he's a boy who's falling out of a tree,
Speaker 1: he doesn't. She doesn't know about that one though, she
Speaker 1: doesn't She's not even doesn't know that's the like the
Speaker 1: sexiest one. Well and then the old guy with the soup.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah's life he tried and there was like a
Speaker 1: people die. Sometimes he was like, not today, not this
Speaker 1: day that I have to relive over. Uh. I will
Speaker 1: say a few things. Having grown up very close to
Speaker 1: punksy p a. Uh, this movie I think has more
Speaker 1: black people in it than the actual town of punk Satani.
Speaker 1: The extremely Yeah, totally, but no speaking parts. They know
Speaker 1: the woman, the nurse or I don't know why. The
Speaker 1: hospital people, Yeah, one of those as a black woman.
Speaker 1: The bartender at the hotel I think is a black
Speaker 1: man says some stuff. I mean it was nice that
Speaker 1: they got they I mean, that's what I do. Like
Speaker 1: what Harold Ramos is that he does Pepper all of
Speaker 1: his movies with a lot of characters so that everybody
Speaker 1: gets some work. He's like, everyone needs to make scale
Speaker 1: this year. See if I can help twenty people make
Speaker 1: scale makeup. He's doing his part. Yeah, he really did.
Speaker 1: So you've been to Oh yeah, I grew up twenty
Speaker 1: miles away from there. Is it fun? It's a ship,
Speaker 1: she said, It's just a pile of drump supporters, like
Speaker 1: in the file and would be nice because then we
Speaker 1: could get a propellant. Yeah, or just like yeah, uh yeah.
Speaker 1: My my dentist was there, so I had to go there.
Speaker 1: You have good tea. Thank you did a nice job.
Speaker 1: Nice job you did well. Tiny punks. Punks is what
Speaker 1: they what they call it. We already talked about Titanic today,
Speaker 1: Jackie and I, right, because that's going to be your
Speaker 1: next one. We did not mention anything about steampunk, which
Speaker 1: is the other thing I was struggling to find steampunk.
Speaker 1: There's no steam punk imagery in which is the mark
Speaker 1: of a great movie. Yeah, no steampunk. So there was
Speaker 1: no giant typewriter or possibly a dirigible with somebody wearing
Speaker 1: a bustle. Just gears, just a pile of gears and
Speaker 1: the I have an Amelia air hat that I bought
Speaker 1: at California Adventure. Yeah, that's the right place to get it, though.
Speaker 1: I saw. I was in San Francisco over the weekend
Speaker 1: and I was triggered by the most flagrant display of
Speaker 1: steampunk culture I've ever seen. It was like this this
Speaker 1: street performer, and people were loving it. It was he
Speaker 1: was like he had these stilts that he'd made out
Speaker 1: of like accordions and he was wearing like two suede
Speaker 1: vests and and singing like a song and had all
Speaker 1: these coins that weren't American crecy. It was a horrible
Speaker 1: I would got genuinely upset and like circle back around
Speaker 1: the block and I was like, he's still there. People
Speaker 1: are still loving his work. I hate it. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: So what is your love? You have love of steampunk,
Speaker 1: you have your steampunk snobs. What's happening? And deeply triggered
Speaker 1: by steampunk? Called like he didn't know what it was
Speaker 1: hate until I started doing this podcast and then we
Speaker 1: talked about free time, and now I just hate steampunk.
Speaker 1: You've never, I mean, you have never given it a chance.
Speaker 1: I went to a steampunk festival once. Sure, I've been
Speaker 1: to almost all conventions like Comic Conee kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: But yeah, there's the commiest steampunk. Yeah, because people love
Speaker 1: to wear layers of fake velvet and God love them.
Speaker 1: There's a no, you know, here's a book you should
Speaker 1: never read, The Finishing School Young Adults series by a
Speaker 1: woman by the name of Gail Carriger G A. R.
Speaker 1: It's spelled like Carriager and uh it's it's literally everything
Speaker 1: It's like she's taken all the things and put them
Speaker 1: in a blender and go, will this sell? Yes, it will.
Speaker 1: And I it's Gail, It's the Finishing School series and
Speaker 1: there are it's a it's a steampunk world where there
Speaker 1: are vampires and werewolves and and get this. So I
Speaker 1: read the first one and I had interviewed her for
Speaker 1: The Dork Forest, my other podcast, and um, and I
Speaker 1: said the thing that people have said to me about
Speaker 1: stand up comedy and it isn't cool. And she took
Speaker 1: it very well as I have taken it from others.
Speaker 1: I said, this is better written than it has to be,
Speaker 1: because it could have been poorly written and it would
Speaker 1: also have sold. But it's actually very well written and well.
Speaker 1: And the Finishing School series is better than the adult
Speaker 1: there's an adult series set in the same world. I
Speaker 1: like the young adults world. It has better plot points
Speaker 1: so far, and there's only four books and it's um,
Speaker 1: it's lovely, but you you would hate it. So if
Speaker 1: anybody's fighting the good fight out in a vecdo Land,
Speaker 1: who wants to like steampunk against your wishes, I would
Speaker 1: love to really spar with someone who felt strongly about
Speaker 1: steampunk all want to watch that. I would love to
Speaker 1: do it. I wait, I had another steampunk that for
Speaker 1: if if the Dark Forest were about what you hated,
Speaker 1: I would have you to talk about to take him down. Oh,
Speaker 1: I had an idea, but I don't think that will
Speaker 1: never execute, so I don't mind saying it. I wanted
Speaker 1: to start. When I do stand up, start, just just
Speaker 1: have like a zip tire two in my back pocket.
Speaker 1: And then if I see someone in the audience who's
Speaker 1: wearing steampunk culture style clothing, just call him up and
Speaker 1: place him under citizen's arrest and make them just you
Speaker 1: could be the citizen's arrest comic. Yeah, it's like everyone
Speaker 1: needs to find their thing. I think I'm really find
Speaker 1: in my voice where I keep placing people into arrest.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been placed under citizen's arrest? No? I
Speaker 1: saw the manager of a bookstore I worked at attempt
Speaker 1: to place someone out of under citizen's arrest and failed
Speaker 1: to the putting shops down his pants. We you don't
Speaker 1: have two citizens arrest that person. You can arrest. You
Speaker 1: can call a cop and arrest arrest of that person, right,
Speaker 1: But I guess he called the cops and they're like
Speaker 1: we're not you know, if we're not coming. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: the guy seemed like he knew, like they like they
Speaker 1: were far away or whatever. And and so my my
Speaker 1: boss was like, you know what, I'm just gonna do it.
Speaker 1: And he took a zip tie from the desk and
Speaker 1: went over and was like, sir, I'm placing you under
Speaker 1: citizens arrest and long story shirt. The guy kind of
Speaker 1: just took the record out of his pants and left.
Speaker 1: It worked well, at least he didn't. I got some
Speaker 1: homeless gentleman tried to place mender citizens arrest, place me
Speaker 1: under I wasn't doing I was ringing a doorbell outside
Speaker 1: of there was a kiddie corner from the Hollywood one
Speaker 1: on one diner. I don't know, I'm Franklin whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm there's a very There was a woman that
Speaker 1: I was in an acting class with who I was
Speaker 1: going to meet, and I was ringing the bell for
Speaker 1: her and she answered, and there was a homeless guy
Speaker 1: who had been following me for a little bit and
Speaker 1: he came up and he was like, uh, let me
Speaker 1: in when she lets you in, And I said, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm very sorry, I can't do that, and uh and
Speaker 1: then he started yelling at me, and then he started
Speaker 1: yelling citizens arrest, Citizens arrest. And then the person from
Speaker 1: my acting class answer and she was like, hey, Jackie's
Speaker 1: at you. Should I let you up? And I said,
Speaker 1: don't do it. Giantman, giantman standing next to me. Who
Speaker 1: will come in next to me? And she was like what?
Speaker 1: And then she went away, and I thought, oh, that
Speaker 1: was my only lifeline. What have I done? And then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the sort of the door guy
Speaker 1: comes to the door and that and so she called
Speaker 1: downstairs and talked to it like I don't know a
Speaker 1: real person who was like, sir, you can't EVERYONEE was safe? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then I and then it wasn't killed you guys, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that would have been truly selfless if you had been killed.
Speaker 1: You're like, I saved my friend. I saved my friend.
Speaker 1: I said, now you're not gonna want to let us
Speaker 1: both in, You're just gonna want together. You just on
Speaker 1: on the on the camera. You can watch me be
Speaker 1: killed by this guy. But I wasn't. So speaking of
Speaker 1: being killed, Bill Murray kills himself a bunch of times
Speaker 1: in this movie. So I'm just trying to get please
Speaker 1: please do. How crazy is that? And and and the
Speaker 1: thing is is the first time he did it right
Speaker 1: on the train track, you think to yourself, Oh, he's
Speaker 1: genuinely he he's been driven there by Yeah. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: thought it was interesting. How how early on relatively in
Speaker 1: like the one thousand like that that happened, How quickly
Speaker 1: he gave up. Yeah, like he gave up. I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess that if you really feel like there's no
Speaker 1: other option, and he doesn't know that, within you know,
Speaker 1: eighty minutes, his deal will be older. You know, you
Speaker 1: might be driven to that. But I was the first
Speaker 1: time I saw it too, I was like, well, that's
Speaker 1: kind of fast. Well, he that he's still at this
Speaker 1: like very you know, self loathing, cynical asshole life. Yeah, Uh,
Speaker 1: it takes him a much longer for him to realize
Speaker 1: that there's more to life than just hating yourself and
Speaker 1: everything around you like pianos and sculptures. Does Rita ever
Speaker 1: even talk to another woman? Uh? There? And it does
Speaker 1: pass the tests technically, there's it's another one of those
Speaker 1: by the skin of its teeth kind of passes well
Speaker 1: because there's there's five different women in the cast total.
Speaker 1: Right if you include the doctor nurse lady. Um. But uh,
Speaker 1: they don't really interact with each other at all, right, no, barely.
Speaker 1: There's a scene where um philon Rita or in the
Speaker 1: diner endors the server comes up and she's like more coffee,
Speaker 1: hunt and she's like and we're just like, oh yes
Speaker 1: please or no, just the check and then she's like,
Speaker 1: these sticky buns are heaven. So they talk about food.
Speaker 1: They talk about food and its favorite passes, because that's
Speaker 1: like the stock, Like, what is the least you could
Speaker 1: possibly do? How how few words can we say to
Speaker 1: each other to get these sticky buns are heaven. That's
Speaker 1: a fun flourish but it's the least you could do, right,
Speaker 1: you know? I always wanted there to be in the
Speaker 1: last Avengers movie, the there Tony Stark's girlfriend and UM
Speaker 1: and Thor's girlfriend are not at this big party and
Speaker 1: that's played by UM Gwyneth Paltrow and um Amidala. What's yeah?
Speaker 1: So um, neither of them could obviously be a ordered
Speaker 1: in this good jillion dollars things. So neither of them
Speaker 1: are at this meeting, and Marvel has been doing these
Speaker 1: one shots, these short things. It would be just awesome.
Speaker 1: If during that party they did a one shot where
Speaker 1: the two of them were they could just call it
Speaker 1: the Bechtel tests, and where the two of them were
Speaker 1: at dinner going, hey, are you going to the party now, Well,
Speaker 1: let's go out to dinner. And then they went out
Speaker 1: to dinner and talked about science and business because they're
Speaker 1: they're like the brains and and and behind those two lives. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: gone to a dinner even like women in stem. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about it. But they never made that one shot.
Speaker 1: They have dropped the ball. They have missed him. They've
Speaker 1: left money on the time. That's the only thing they've
Speaker 1: ever done. Everything else, everything else, they nailed it, stuck
Speaker 1: the landing. Yeah, let me look through my notes and
Speaker 1: see what the other things I wanted to talk about.
Speaker 1: First I was like, oh man, he just keeps being
Speaker 1: a dicked all these poor small town lady characters. But
Speaker 1: he actually treats the men and women pretty equally. He's
Speaker 1: just a genuinely bad person. He does call his like
Speaker 1: co anchor or whatever. At the very beginning hair do.
Speaker 1: He's like, all right, hair do, for your information, does
Speaker 1: he call my hair do? Will not use Oh he
Speaker 1: calls her yeah okay, and I was like, that's is
Speaker 1: he calling the guys cucks? Is that? Did he invent that?
Speaker 1: Nonc So it took me so long to figure out
Speaker 1: just by hearing that word in context what it actually meant.
Speaker 1: I never got it in context. I had to actually
Speaker 1: look it up and I was like, I see what
Speaker 1: you've done. It still doesn't make any sense. Whatever. Why
Speaker 1: is everybody like to say it now? It makes me sad.
Speaker 1: I learned what calding was when I watched a documentary
Speaker 1: about birds. I don't know why that's so hilarious because
Speaker 1: you so exciting, that's why. Another it was narrated by
Speaker 1: Richard Attenborrow or is it David Edinburgh? I get them confused,
Speaker 1: so they're yeah, anyway. It was a good documentaries called
Speaker 1: Life of Birds. There's a scene that kind of upset
Speaker 1: me where it's towards the end at the bachelor auction
Speaker 1: at the Groundhog Yes, and Chris Elliott is up for
Speaker 1: being auctioned off and no one wants him except those
Speaker 1: like old ladies, and she's like twenty five cents and
Speaker 1: then he looks to see who won him, and it's
Speaker 1: an old lady and he's like, oh, gross, because you know,
Speaker 1: women past a certain age are disgusting. Yeah, so that
Speaker 1: was a little upsetting. I have ribbon candy in my
Speaker 1: in my vagina, it's just old cobwebs, and that's like
Speaker 1: instead of counting rings, like what kind of novelty items
Speaker 1: are in there? Where? Isn't that the name of my
Speaker 1: next album? My vagina ribbon candy, It's just a party bag.
Speaker 1: And I'm going to get off topic, but there's a
Speaker 1: joke and arrested development where they're talking about a cabin,
Speaker 1: an old cabin and job or someone's like, who would
Speaker 1: want to go into that musty old clap chap and
Speaker 1: I think they think they're talking about the seal and
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, the cabin, that's great. Uh. There's another
Speaker 1: scene where towards again, towards the end, uh, Marita is
Speaker 1: in bed with Phil and she's like falling asleep and
Speaker 1: he's like, it's okay, you can fall asleep. I won't
Speaker 1: touch you much. And it's pretty rapy, really funny. Here's
Speaker 1: the weird thing about rape comments like that. It's it's
Speaker 1: the weird like when okay, I'm all married, right, I
Speaker 1: got a fellow it's all nice. So we were dating
Speaker 1: and then he saw me do a show and he
Speaker 1: showed up. I was I was doing out a run through.
Speaker 1: I have no idea why he came to a run
Speaker 1: through of my solo show in two thousand and three,
Speaker 1: because he liked to me and it was this and
Speaker 1: it was um it was the it was a half
Speaker 1: hour and it was the second part of a three
Speaker 1: part solo show I was working on. And in two
Speaker 1: thousand three, that's when that's when one person shows we're
Speaker 1: getting really brutal. Everybody had cancer and they were poignant,
Speaker 1: but mine was not. But but this was the first draft,
Speaker 1: so it was a little more poignant than funny. And
Speaker 1: so he saw this first draft kind of situation. And
Speaker 1: then he shows up an hour later afterwards, like you know,
Speaker 1: essentially we drove separately. And then so he shows up
Speaker 1: at my apartment like an hour later, and he knocks
Speaker 1: on the door and he goes, I thought I would
Speaker 1: just leave these flowers, And then I thought, that's weird.
Speaker 1: Is it weird that I've shown up with the flowers
Speaker 1: in hand? What I just I would love the show
Speaker 1: and you were great. And then he gave me these flowers,
Speaker 1: and I was like, that is so beautiful. But if
Speaker 1: I didn't like him, I would have thought it was creepy.
Speaker 1: So well, you have to sort of and and how
Speaker 1: is how is a person to know to some extent,
Speaker 1: like if you like a guy and you're like, I'm
Speaker 1: willing to drive drunk for you, and that's not okay, stick,
Speaker 1: that's what was my yard. But I mean, but so
Speaker 1: I think she liked him enough that that was it
Speaker 1: sounds rapey except for that she liked him enough that
Speaker 1: she was like, oh, he's I'm sure it's not going
Speaker 1: to touch. Yeah, he's not really gonna be weird and
Speaker 1: start poking at my bits just because I'm asleep, because
Speaker 1: I that first of all, would wake her true true,
Speaker 1: And she was like I thought it was midnight. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: Like basic lack of understanding of not just the female body,
Speaker 1: but bodies in general, because whenever you spoke anybody when
Speaker 1: they're sleeping, they're gonna jump. They're gonna wake that person
Speaker 1: up so real fast. Uh. It does pass the Bactel test.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of other scenes where it's again super
Speaker 1: bare minimum, like the scene where the three old women
Speaker 1: are in the car, and they get a flat tire
Speaker 1: and they're like, are you total to Oh, it's an
Speaker 1: earthquake whenever he starts like, then that thing ends with
Speaker 1: them talking about about him. So it passes for a
Speaker 1: second and then doesn't pass anymore. Um. And then a
Speaker 1: few scenes were like Ptil introduces Rita to someone, another
Speaker 1: woman and they say hi to each other. It lasts
Speaker 1: for half a second on screen, but feminism. And then
Speaker 1: also wrote in my notes and all caps, white people
Speaker 1: dancing so painful. There's a dance. God, this is bleak.
Speaker 1: It's horrendous. Bleak is such a perfect word. Um. But yeah,
Speaker 1: otherwise I say we we rate the movie. We have
Speaker 1: a rating scale of zero to five because we're so
Speaker 1: body for work, not body backwards, having bodies, but tired.
Speaker 1: I hated just being like cloud of like a theory,
Speaker 1: just like a floating consciousness. Honestly though, that does sound
Speaker 1: like my ideal would love to just float. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: does sound pretty nice. All right, Um, I give it. Uh.
Speaker 1: I love this movie. I think it's terrific. It is
Speaker 1: so well written, but in terms of its treatment of
Speaker 1: female characters. But Rita is good and she's a pretty
Speaker 1: well developed character. But just because they're so she's like
Speaker 1: the love interest and that's pretty much how she is.
Speaker 1: And then there's just like not many other women for
Speaker 1: her to talk to, her hang out with. I'm going
Speaker 1: to give it like a too, I guess, well harsh.
Speaker 1: It feels harsh, does I know? Because I would like otherwise.
Speaker 1: I give this movie five out of five because I
Speaker 1: love it so much. Five out of five totally, But
Speaker 1: of its treatment of women, you're probably right with a two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just because he's such a disaster and he's him and
Speaker 1: the him in the manipulative, with the with the high
Speaker 1: school that is very many. Preso tries it on on
Speaker 1: Rita for a while, doesn't I mean, yeah, it's and
Speaker 1: who else? Who knows who else he slept through the
Speaker 1: hole the things we saw on screen. I'm going to
Speaker 1: give it three because he does end up completely changing
Speaker 1: himself for a woman. Oh my god, I didn't you
Speaker 1: even think about respect someone's willingness to do that. That's
Speaker 1: sure he did put in the butt in the time
Speaker 1: he could have become, he could have been the devil.
Speaker 1: He could have spent like ten thousand forever days just
Speaker 1: just deciding that he was going to rape every person
Speaker 1: in that town were deciding that he was going to
Speaker 1: kill everyder now has five nipples. Did he did he
Speaker 1: only do it out of necessity because he's like, well,
Speaker 1: I got nothing else to do with my time, I
Speaker 1: better just become a nice person. Or did you do it?
Speaker 1: Because I think he didn't. I think he actually changed,
Speaker 1: because remember when he was sitting with her and he said,
Speaker 1: I'm not God, but I'm not the God. I'm a
Speaker 1: gud And at that point you're like, well, you could
Speaker 1: be a good odd or you could be a bad god.
Speaker 1: And he chose to be a good guy. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I think like he was taking enough, like actual genuine
Speaker 1: pleasure in the activities he was doing. After a while
Speaker 1: that I was like, oh, it seems like he's actually
Speaker 1: happy to be there. So anyways, I would encourage anyone
Speaker 1: to do that for anyone. Change if you're a douche,
Speaker 1: bad guy about yourself exactly. You can email us at
Speaker 1: the Bechtel Cast at gmail if you want to go
Speaker 1: on a date after you've changed yourself. Yeah, make sure
Speaker 1: you're totally different. Yeah, you're not like they're listening to
Speaker 1: this because they're like, wait, I'm bad. It's probably better
Speaker 1: things myself. This is gonna work. I love this podcast,
Speaker 1: by the way, the minutia of a movie I love
Speaker 1: and sorry Jamie that you missed about half of it.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that you can go back and listen to
Speaker 1: the idea for the Titanic. The TV show Oh yeah
Speaker 1: you um anyway, Jackie thinks so much for being Oh
Speaker 1: do you have? Do you want to rate it on
Speaker 1: a nipple scale? I think I'm gonna go two and
Speaker 1: a half. I chose to you went three. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go right in the middle because I'm pandering because I
Speaker 1: but I know what you're saying, because he did change
Speaker 1: and yet um, his initial the treatment of it makes
Speaker 1: me think that, um that Harold Ramos is probably and wow,
Speaker 1: nobody wants to hear what middle aged white ladies say.
Speaker 1: This word uh is not entirely woke. Yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: like on his way, but he's not there. Yeah, not completely,
Speaker 1: but who amongst us? His first usually the word work.
Speaker 1: That's not always an error with the co opting. So
Speaker 1: I love it. You hit the k oh, yeah, I
Speaker 1: hit it. I had it and did you hear the
Speaker 1: silent uh? I remember most of the nineties when I
Speaker 1: didn't understand what hood was short for neighborhood. It turns out, Grandma,
Speaker 1: how's it going? Well? Thanks for being here. Where can
Speaker 1: people find you online? People can find me at all
Speaker 1: The at Jacucation is in the world. Occasion is spelled
Speaker 1: K S H I N. And then I have two podcasts.
Speaker 1: One is on this very network, the Nernice network. We're
Speaker 1: not on the Nertice one network. We just reduced this studio.
Speaker 1: Don't tell anyone, Oh no, but sort yeah. So it's
Speaker 1: but it's called The Jackie Lorie Show and it's just Lori,
Speaker 1: Kilmartin and I bitching about stand up comedy. If you
Speaker 1: enjoy that, recommend it. It's such a good podcast. And
Speaker 1: then The Dork Forest is on all Things Comedy dot com.
Speaker 1: Uh their network, and that is Al Madrigal and Bilber's
Speaker 1: podcast network, and it is uh, I just interview people
Speaker 1: about what they really really love. Look. Today I did
Speaker 1: an episode with the guy who um loves motorcycles and
Speaker 1: I didn't. I don't know anything about motorcycles. My mom
Speaker 1: was killed on one. Uh, she actually fell off and
Speaker 1: then died. But that's that was supposed to be a
Speaker 1: laugh line. Possibly too soon. Forty years later or so.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but anyway, dork forest dot com or jacucation
Speaker 1: dot com or family pet Ancestry dot com because it
Speaker 1: made me laugh and uh, there you go. Well, you
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