Speaker 1: Oh, beat force. If it doesn't work, you're just not
Speaker 1: using enough. You're listening to soft A Gradio Special Operations,
Speaker 1: military news and straight talk with the guys and the community. Hey, everybody,
Speaker 1: welcome back to Software Radio Special guests today. Good friend
Speaker 1: of mine, Eric Davis. I can't believe it's been I
Speaker 1: don't want to say. I feel like if I say
Speaker 1: how long we've known each other, I feel like an
Speaker 1: old man. I know you keep eating it, you keep
Speaker 1: saying I think so a little bit seven. Yeah, two
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen, almost twenties, So you gotta add a couple
Speaker 1: more years, buddy, So long time. Eric and I actually
Speaker 1: went through Bud's training together. Maybe maybe we can tell
Speaker 1: the just on this story I'm not telling. Will tell
Speaker 1: the story. We can leave the names. I don't want
Speaker 1: to tell that story. Let's tell the story about when
Speaker 1: you were going to fail out of third phase, when
Speaker 1: I saved you. All the time, you never tell about
Speaker 1: the story. Everyone want to talk about that. It's probably
Speaker 1: better he did save my ass. Anyway. Eric is in
Speaker 1: New York. He came out to help with the first
Speaker 1: kind of pilot course we did for the Great Club Academy,
Speaker 1: which was a great, just a great event. We had
Speaker 1: a really good time in Virginia International Race Way VR,
Speaker 1: just some you know, fun time. I think we we
Speaker 1: learned a lot, probably too heavy on the classroom more
Speaker 1: practical evolutions next time. But hey, that's that's why we
Speaker 1: run this pilot course. But I think everyone, just by
Speaker 1: the emails and testimonials are kind of had a really
Speaker 1: good time. So but then Eric and I were talking
Speaker 1: and we're I've been trying to figure out a way
Speaker 1: to work work with or for a long time, and
Speaker 1: then you know, we just figured, hey, let's come to
Speaker 1: New York, you're nearby. We'll do sit down. You and
Speaker 1: I get to talk to getch some stuff out, catch up. Also,
Speaker 1: we've we published Eric's book, Raising Men through the software
Speaker 1: imprint St. Martin's Press. We'll talk about that book on
Speaker 1: the show as well. But yeah, dude, I'm just glad
Speaker 1: you're here. Man, it's nice to see. It seems like
Speaker 1: life happens and we get busy and twenty years flies by.
Speaker 1: You I know, man, it goes faster and faster to
Speaker 1: the older you get. Anyway, I never had a chance
Speaker 1: to really check in with you on on your kind
Speaker 1: of experience with academy and interacting with some of the
Speaker 1: some of the members of the community that we built
Speaker 1: over the last seven years. You got any uh not
Speaker 1: first impressions, last impressions, first and last impressions. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: there's a couple of things that really stood out to
Speaker 1: me in no particular order. You know, We're sitting at
Speaker 1: the bar last night doing the cigars and a little
Speaker 1: bit of whiskey and I'll chat with one of the
Speaker 1: which was part of just so people understand that that
Speaker 1: was part of the experience, was we would put money
Speaker 1: on the bar and have basically a social after which
Speaker 1: we did two nights we hosted a kind of get
Speaker 1: to know use social with these guys and then that's
Speaker 1: the second night. That's whatever was talking about. We put
Speaker 1: money on the bar and part of it is just
Speaker 1: to kind of shoot the ship and get to know
Speaker 1: know each other. Right. Oh yeah, I mean that's the thing,
Speaker 1: you know, even like you mentioned with the aostroom being
Speaker 1: a little heavy, and you know, that's that's what all
Speaker 1: of our training is like, right, That's what seal training
Speaker 1: is like. We travel, we go somewhere odd and uncomfortable
Speaker 1: and weird that we've never been to before. We spent
Speaker 1: some time in classrooms. But you know, high risk evolutions,
Speaker 1: um high levels of performance, you've got to get some
Speaker 1: of the uh you know, the mental stuff in there
Speaker 1: before you go out and do it. But like I
Speaker 1: was saying, nowhere at the bar, and that's the thing,
Speaker 1: you're shooting the ship. You're you're bullshitting with guys, your bitching,
Speaker 1: You're you're talking about what was great, what was good,
Speaker 1: all that stuff. And you know, one of the things
Speaker 1: that really hit me was, you know, I explained to people,
Speaker 1: the only reason I became a Seal is because I
Speaker 1: was just the biggest fan, right, I was just a
Speaker 1: real big fan, so much so that I had to
Speaker 1: go in there and do it. And I really missed
Speaker 1: that camaraderie of course, the brotherhood, that kind of tribal
Speaker 1: feel of the Seal teams. But hanging out with this
Speaker 1: group of guys, it's I explained to it my go
Speaker 1: I actually liked this better because really we're all enthusiasts there,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. If they paid their money,
Speaker 1: signed up and showed up, you know that they're an
Speaker 1: enthusiast of special operations training in mindset at like I
Speaker 1: said as am. I, So there's like more things we
Speaker 1: have in common, if that makes sense. So in a
Speaker 1: stealable tune, their great guys, but they're not all necessarily
Speaker 1: entrepreneurs or executives, you know. So the guys that raised
Speaker 1: their hand for an event like this, this kind of
Speaker 1: exclusive premier kind of deal, you know, these are guys
Speaker 1: that are doing pretty well obviously, and there's just so many,
Speaker 1: so much more to talk about with them besides just
Speaker 1: the experience in life and kids and family and business
Speaker 1: and everything like that. So that was probably my biggest takeaway,
Speaker 1: just to feel that community again. And I hope those
Speaker 1: guys felt that too, Like they weren't outsiders visiting our community.
Speaker 1: They were outsiders joining our community. And I really just
Speaker 1: love that aspect. Yeah, I mean, and then look, you know,
Speaker 1: we were one of the first to to really get
Speaker 1: out there in the digital space, in the podcast space
Speaker 1: to kind of bring this community and this world that
Speaker 1: was relatively unknown since before nine eleven, all of a
Speaker 1: sudden became very well known but there was really nothing
Speaker 1: on the internet or podcasts. Um we were really the first,
Speaker 1: which is kind of will but you know, to be
Speaker 1: honest and admit, I felt like we grew pretty fast
Speaker 1: a couple of years. For the first to three years
Speaker 1: in business, we did a really good job of maintaining
Speaker 1: that community. It was close, engaging, and then as the
Speaker 1: business started a scale, we kind of lost touch, you know,
Speaker 1: and we even got rid of our best site because
Speaker 1: we were trying to experiment going mainstream, which was software
Speaker 1: dot com. And now that's back, and you know, I've
Speaker 1: announced it before on the show, and software is was
Speaker 1: back since last Monday. But the new kind of supersite
Speaker 1: launches in October thirty. If everything's rebranded integrated. We have
Speaker 1: a new team room area that's basically the community that
Speaker 1: has the video content, the chats, the long form editorial
Speaker 1: and the interaction that we just I kind of can't
Speaker 1: believe on the many is, but I kind of ignored
Speaker 1: it for a couple of years. It just kind of
Speaker 1: went away. And just relaunching that domain aim and seeing
Speaker 1: people interact on social it's it's just nice to have
Speaker 1: software back. And now software is the center of the
Speaker 1: universe for everything we do, content and commerce and and
Speaker 1: a big push now until you know the end of
Speaker 1: the year, and and it continues pushes this community that
Speaker 1: Eric was just talking about. And that's not only you know,
Speaker 1: do we have the community online, but plan to have
Speaker 1: our annual member party in Las Vegas around the Shot Show,
Speaker 1: and we plan to turn this Craig Club Academy into
Speaker 1: a festival. So imagine those of you that are that
Speaker 1: know about the Shot Show in Vegas, it's industry insiders.
Speaker 1: It's really hard to access. So why not just create
Speaker 1: like a really cool too three day festival, have multiple
Speaker 1: know general mission so guys can see all the vendors,
Speaker 1: throw a big concert at night with a cool, cool band,
Speaker 1: and then have this really cool training like Eric gave
Speaker 1: us a really good idea for like father Son sniper
Speaker 1: stock like stealth and concealment and run run this stuff
Speaker 1: in parallels. So guys can sign up for that. They
Speaker 1: can sign up for two day driving, two day Advanced
Speaker 1: Tactical Shooting course. So we're gonna have like a much
Speaker 1: bigger menu next year and we'll have that on on
Speaker 1: Software dot com as well and into November that will
Speaker 1: be available. So excited about that. But the community, Sorry,
Speaker 1: this is a very long interruption. Yeah, but you don't
Speaker 1: but the community, I mean, it's just important, you know,
Speaker 1: And I want to. I want to let people know
Speaker 1: that this this is a commitment that I have. And
Speaker 1: it was nice to even to hear what was the
Speaker 1: doc the psychologists he was said, I've even noticed when
Speaker 1: I got back on the podcast, he's like, I can
Speaker 1: feel like there's this transition happening. So it's just good.
Speaker 1: It was nice to be around these guys and hear
Speaker 1: that for sure, for sure, And I'll read real quick
Speaker 1: and I'll turn back over to York now that I've
Speaker 1: totally hijacked your um. This was from Doug, a great
Speaker 1: opportunity for me to pull the men in my family
Speaker 1: together and do something fun. Doug brought his two older
Speaker 1: boys I think, and his brother along with him, and
Speaker 1: he says great training learned, a lot of the instructors
Speaker 1: were awesome. Definitely planned to do this again. So that's
Speaker 1: kind of like the spirit of this thing. And I'm
Speaker 1: really glad to kind of go into the holiday fourth
Speaker 1: quarter because I told the listeners on the show of
Speaker 1: and I think it's like three or four shows back,
Speaker 1: just I was just saying, look, you know, we've been
Speaker 1: through hell this summer. We had all these growing pains,
Speaker 1: had to you know, just deal with it, make a
Speaker 1: lot of changes and just clean up a lot of mess.
Speaker 1: And it's been really the most challenging year I've had
Speaker 1: in business in seven years. Was from January until till now.
Speaker 1: I mean the summers is brutal. And but anyway, we're
Speaker 1: digging out into Eric's point again. It's you know, had
Speaker 1: had I not had the experience as a seal, but
Speaker 1: probably more are time during the sniper course when we
Speaker 1: really did focus on mindset and positive psychology, I probably
Speaker 1: would have thrown the top. Man. I'm telling you, I'm
Speaker 1: not a guy that's been on fifteen combat deployments, but
Speaker 1: I've been Iraq and Afghanistan, and I'm more stressful this
Speaker 1: year than I wasn't on any operation I was on
Speaker 1: in Afghanistan or Iraq. Oh yeah, yeah, the stressors and
Speaker 1: pressure of entrepreneurship. Yeah, but you're saying, I mean you
Speaker 1: said that, so you're you're at the bar the second
Speaker 1: night in the community that you were on that track
Speaker 1: and before I totally hijacked you. Yeah. Yeah, And we
Speaker 1: were talking about the some of the future events, um
Speaker 1: and you know that's where the the idea of a
Speaker 1: father's son stock came up and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, you guys built. You know, we teach about
Speaker 1: camouflage and concealment. You build your gilly suits together, you
Speaker 1: go out into the field, you know, you do a
Speaker 1: partner stock and you know, there's all kinds of fun
Speaker 1: things to do there. And then we were just spitball
Speaker 1: and all the different things there are, and that's you know,
Speaker 1: I think one of the unique things about the Seal
Speaker 1: teams is you truly are a jack of all trades
Speaker 1: and sumter of many right, So as this academy concept grows,
Speaker 1: I think it will be important to to build that
Speaker 1: internal community inside of software too. Just like a seal platoon,
Speaker 1: you know, you have experts, you have expert snipers, you
Speaker 1: have the dive guy, the air ops guy, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So you know, part of those growing
Speaker 1: pains is that internal team too, Like all right, well,
Speaker 1: they'll probably be a community of people who are more
Speaker 1: into air ops in a community of people who are
Speaker 1: into the human intelligence things and technical surveillance and you know,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about, things like that, and
Speaker 1: during that event, boy, you could really break it out.
Speaker 1: And you know, the vendors too, will typically show up
Speaker 1: and really really powerful ways too with some cool gear,
Speaker 1: new stuff. Get to touch it, feel it. And the
Speaker 1: guys I can't say enough about the guys that VR
Speaker 1: just solid, solid cadre and just good people, so excited
Speaker 1: to I mean. And the funny thing is, right, it's
Speaker 1: whether you around cars, airplanes, guns, it's like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: we go out to the bar, it's like we talk
Speaker 1: about like women. I forget to quote one of the
Speaker 1: one we're flying around and he's like, you know, when
Speaker 1: we're when we're around women, all we do is talk
Speaker 1: about cars, guns, airplanes like things were into and then
Speaker 1: when we're when we're around that stuff a talking to women, right,
Speaker 1: But this is cool. I think it's like again, in
Speaker 1: this day and age, it's tough to find a place
Speaker 1: where you can be a dude and be a guy
Speaker 1: and like, look, there's there's all sorts of people in
Speaker 1: this world, which is fine, but it's okay to be
Speaker 1: like a straight mail and have like go bond over
Speaker 1: some you know, high speed tackle driving and shooting and
Speaker 1: some cigars and whiskey afterwards. Yeah, it's it's not only
Speaker 1: it's okay, it's it's really important. You know, we're all
Speaker 1: born and bred to be in that kind of community.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think as the world gets more
Speaker 1: competitive and dynamic too, men are going to have more
Speaker 1: and more of a difficult time finding other men who
Speaker 1: enjoy those kind of activities, who are still not afraid
Speaker 1: to be the hunter fighters. And that was another thing too.
Speaker 1: I was talking to the guys in the classroom, Um,
Speaker 1: we were doing a home defense brief, and I explained
Speaker 1: to my go, you know, you're one of your best
Speaker 1: somebody asked me a question, I go, you know, you're
Speaker 1: probably your best source is the group of men right
Speaker 1: here with you right now. So that was another thing
Speaker 1: were I really noticed the event pointing out, like those
Speaker 1: guys were meeting each other as well, making their connections.
Speaker 1: So you know, this is one big community, but they're
Speaker 1: gonna be able to side, like break off of the
Speaker 1: side and start creating their own little pods as well,
Speaker 1: which is going to be really powerful for them because,
Speaker 1: like I said, it's I teach that to people all
Speaker 1: the time, building your tribe, and it's very very difficult
Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, and we have we have a great tribe,
Speaker 1: and it's just nice to kind of get the tribe
Speaker 1: back together. So it kind of came together last minute.
Speaker 1: And now I'm looking at next year. We've already reserved
Speaker 1: the dates and it's going to be more of a
Speaker 1: more accessible like we're looking at doing an air Soft
Speaker 1: like little full on like full up war game with
Speaker 1: h U you know, driving dedicated two day driving, dedicated
Speaker 1: tactical shooting, and then doing the kind of stealth and
Speaker 1: concealment father Son event out for two days, and on
Speaker 1: top of that, you know, every night having you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what level of entertainment we get. I
Speaker 1: know Jason Row from Breaking Benjamin, but something a really
Speaker 1: cool band that kind of gets it and fits into this. UM.
Speaker 1: I know Jason from I know he's he's a big
Speaker 1: podcast fan, so that's how I met him, so I think,
Speaker 1: And as far as like the accessibility, having people be
Speaker 1: able to just show up, buy a ticket to come
Speaker 1: and hang out UM and a kind of small, smaller
Speaker 1: private venue here some really good music, but also interact
Speaker 1: with the guys. Look at the vendors, like all the
Speaker 1: latest gear and equipment and guns. I think it'll be
Speaker 1: a pretty cool thing and nobody's doing it again. That's
Speaker 1: that's kind of what I like about it is nobody.
Speaker 1: It's kind of obvious to me now, But why why
Speaker 1: hasn't someone done this sooner? But I talked about I
Speaker 1: was at this Harvard executive program. You know, we did
Speaker 1: all I probably read sixty case studies, and one of
Speaker 1: them was on the Reinvention Circus by you know, in class,
Speaker 1: we listed all the negative things that came up in
Speaker 1: our head when we talk about the circus, right, you know,
Speaker 1: the kind of dirty the carnies, the clowns, you know,
Speaker 1: all the all the weird stuff, right, the freak shows.
Speaker 1: It was like Circle got rid of all that and
Speaker 1: just kept the good stuff. And I found where they
Speaker 1: put them to walking walking here to the studio today,
Speaker 1: not a couple. Yeah, you'll find anything New York. And and
Speaker 1: and so I kind of think of the same way
Speaker 1: and the firearms kind of shot show gun range industry.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of good, but there's a lot of
Speaker 1: like negative stuff. So if we can strip out all
Speaker 1: the positive stuff and make it fun, and you know,
Speaker 1: even like mixing like rock, country hip hop, being able
Speaker 1: to like have this kind of special ops experiential weekend,
Speaker 1: I think it would be really cool. And and it's
Speaker 1: something that I know our community is especially the guys
Speaker 1: are into shot Show and it's an industry insider event.
Speaker 1: It's hard to get into. Plus you gotta like you
Speaker 1: and I've been there enough times. It's you gotta deal
Speaker 1: with a lot of bs, you know, a lot of attitude,
Speaker 1: attitude ego, oh man. Yeah, I ask somebody about a
Speaker 1: sniper system and they just look at me like I'm
Speaker 1: some idiot kid off the street, and like, come on, dude,
Speaker 1: ye be able to create an environment that's that leaves
Speaker 1: all that behind and just focuses on like the positive.
Speaker 1: So I'm excited about that. Yeah, for sure, I think
Speaker 1: that would be really important too. And you know, you
Speaker 1: do the community just right to and have the right people,
Speaker 1: the right instructor, is the right cadre. It's like you said, accessible,
Speaker 1: you know, exclusive but accessible. At the same time, we
Speaker 1: had i mean this weekend we had two SF guys
Speaker 1: combat vets you myself from the Seal Community, Phil Campion
Speaker 1: from the SSAS. Phil gave like a team debrief on
Speaker 1: that operation in Africa. You know. I mean it's like
Speaker 1: that's the kind of stuff, you know, we wanna want
Speaker 1: to create this community in this experience for for the
Speaker 1: community that we have in our tribe. But anyway, I
Speaker 1: want to talk about shifting gears to the book you've had,
Speaker 1: Raising Man. We did with you and it's un really well,
Speaker 1: you know, we're literally Eric and I today we're at St.
Speaker 1: Martin's Press. We had lunch with with Mark, my friend
Speaker 1: who's an editor over there. Mark and I have known
Speaker 1: each other for since two thousand and eleven. We're talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, what we can do with Eric for his
Speaker 1: next book, but also you know, trying to see if
Speaker 1: there's a way to kind of bring you into the
Speaker 1: into the fold on the digital side too. But talking
Speaker 1: a little bit about Raising men Um. I know we
Speaker 1: had you on the show before, but it would be
Speaker 1: good for the listeners to kind of get a refresh
Speaker 1: on what that book is about and kind of like
Speaker 1: your thoughts on the future. So when I was in
Speaker 1: the seal teams, even rene reconnaissance, the whole time in
Speaker 1: the military, I was I was a parent, I was
Speaker 1: a father. There was a moment in time where because
Speaker 1: of my training, because of the equipment I had, I
Speaker 1: was able to do different things with my kids. Way back,
Speaker 1: there's a story I was at a I don't know
Speaker 1: what Its like a like a car not at a carnival,
Speaker 1: but like an outdoor event. There is a of American
Speaker 1: They're explaining how they made ropes out of weed or
Speaker 1: something like something like that, and I was like, and
Speaker 1: he's like, this is what Special Forces used. And I
Speaker 1: looked down at him, like, oh, yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 1: That is something they teach in Special Forces training. And
Speaker 1: that's what I started doing those quote unquote seal pupp
Speaker 1: events with my kids, Like, hey, instead of doing like
Speaker 1: the normal boy scout stuff, why don't I tie their
Speaker 1: hands and feet together and throw them in the pool
Speaker 1: and teach them drowning proofing. Why don't I take them
Speaker 1: out of the ocean instead of just swimming around, show
Speaker 1: them how to put graments in their fins and do
Speaker 1: like a beach recon or whatever, you know, things like that.
Speaker 1: And it was just that that kind of a fun
Speaker 1: idea to do with my own kids. And it's just
Speaker 1: really I really started to connect all the principles of
Speaker 1: performance and all the things we did in the seal
Speaker 1: teams and how to apply them into life. So Raising
Speaker 1: Men was the first major launch of me writing and
Speaker 1: talking about how we can take kind of the secrets
Speaker 1: of performance that we either discovered or developed as sniper
Speaker 1: instructors and apply them to our own life. In that case,
Speaker 1: it was raising my son and my daughters. Of course,
Speaker 1: is that you know about being a parent, and then
Speaker 1: from there that's I've been NonStop doing that inside of
Speaker 1: corporations and for individuals since then. You know, one of
Speaker 1: the things we learned. You know, Mark is one of
Speaker 1: the most talented editors I know. Unfortunately, publishing is still
Speaker 1: I mean it's been I've seen the changes and publishing,
Speaker 1: drastic changes in audio books, e books, like the digital sales,
Speaker 1: but publishing is still in this very slow cycle, right
Speaker 1: because if you and I sold a book today, even
Speaker 1: two years later, the book is coming out, right, So
Speaker 1: it's that long of a lag in the market. But
Speaker 1: you know, Mark was just talking about like really our
Speaker 1: peer group, right we got out mid career. Me you know,
Speaker 1: I've talked about it many times, just kind of a
Speaker 1: little bit of burnout, seeing no end in sight. And
Speaker 1: I feel like you had similar similar thoughts, you know,
Speaker 1: just wanted to spend more time around with the family.
Speaker 1: But our peer group is now coming retiring and now
Speaker 1: it's like the markets being flooded with all these you know,
Speaker 1: special ops this special ops, that special Ops. Way to
Speaker 1: eat your breakfast, special to go on vacation, you know,
Speaker 1: Navy Seal Guide to freaking barbecue. You know, it's all
Speaker 1: this crazy stuff. But and so you really do have
Speaker 1: to you know, we had a headstart, right, but you
Speaker 1: really do have to create carve out a niche for yourself,
Speaker 1: you know, in this kind of especially you know, in publishing,
Speaker 1: because it's it's changed now, it's become way more competitive.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm just I mean, I am thankful back
Speaker 1: to the community piece that we do have, the community
Speaker 1: we have, and we're able to have have guys like
Speaker 1: you on the show and use this as a platform
Speaker 1: for them to become more successful some more books. But
Speaker 1: you know, and I feel like, look, I try and
Speaker 1: comment on your on your social pages, which if you
Speaker 1: want to follow Eric on Instagram, it's Eric Davis two
Speaker 1: and five something like that. It's pretty close, so be
Speaker 1: sure to follow Eric. But you know, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people out there looking for that kind of this
Speaker 1: raising men book as a resource. I've even seen some
Speaker 1: of your engagement where it's like the mom, you know,
Speaker 1: the divorced mom that's raising a son, you know, or
Speaker 1: the single mom that doesn't have a father around like
Speaker 1: that wants to raise a productive, respectful young man. And
Speaker 1: and and I feel like your book is is kind
Speaker 1: of like the good Dad in the pocket, right, like
Speaker 1: you have all these um it's a resource. Yeah, it's been.
Speaker 1: I really love seeing whether it's a mother or a
Speaker 1: single mother. I didn't just didn't realize I'd have that
Speaker 1: kind of audience. And I just recently had an exchange
Speaker 1: on my Instagram actually where you know this wonderful mother.
Speaker 1: She was reaching out to me and like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm looking my boys don't have a regular father figure,
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm looking to find a male role
Speaker 1: model in their life. And I think that's great. But
Speaker 1: my response to her is like, well, I don't know
Speaker 1: about that. What's important to you? What what kind of
Speaker 1: kids do you want to have? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: How do you want to raise them? And basically a
Speaker 1: long story, very very short. Is it came down to
Speaker 1: just identifying like things like responsibility, courage, communication, you know,
Speaker 1: what are the traits that you want to develop in
Speaker 1: your sons? And I go, having a male role model
Speaker 1: in their life, maybe a strategy to do that, but like,
Speaker 1: what is your ultimate objective? And I think that's where
Speaker 1: a lot of the female readers are coming from, is
Speaker 1: there's a gap in masculinity. There's a gap across the board.
Speaker 1: And you know, we've all we've all suffered a big
Speaker 1: change in the world we live in, so our fathers
Speaker 1: and grandfathers like kind of the way they did it,
Speaker 1: it doesn't really work so well anymore. So it's been
Speaker 1: just I love I love these female readers. How they're
Speaker 1: just taking this stuff and apply And that's what we
Speaker 1: learned from market it too. It's just like a surprising
Speaker 1: amount of female readers. It's like, I think they might
Speaker 1: be taking over the world here real soon. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: hope so. So I won't put you, I won't put
Speaker 1: you on the spot on the Guam story, But are
Speaker 1: there any other like funny, like maybe you share like
Speaker 1: one of your funniest memories with the listeners from the military.
Speaker 1: Oh man, held on, let's hit another. I'll think about that.
Speaker 1: Let's let's do different, let's do a topic in between.
Speaker 1: Let me just give that some thought. I just got
Speaker 1: to make sure I don't incriminate anybody yea, so think
Speaker 1: about that. Look, you're very candid about the fact that
Speaker 1: you showed up the seal training the first time, young,
Speaker 1: not in the right headspace and dropped and then came
Speaker 1: back and made it in my class to fifteen. But
Speaker 1: do you want to maybe talk about kind of your
Speaker 1: you're one of your most challenging experiences in Bud's training. Sure,
Speaker 1: and let me just kind of pick up, you know,
Speaker 1: with the having been to seal training and quit. And
Speaker 1: I think that we have a video out on YouTube
Speaker 1: that we last time I was in New York. We
Speaker 1: recorded that thing and I talked about a little bit,
Speaker 1: but it goes along the lines when I was talking
Speaker 1: about masculinity and manhood. So I wanted to steal train.
Speaker 1: I already had two kids, and I've already been the
Speaker 1: Navy for six years, already been a Marine reconnaissance medic,
Speaker 1: been through their school, so I had a good taste
Speaker 1: of it all, and you know, it just kind of
Speaker 1: got in my head to go to go to the
Speaker 1: conventional route, you know, do what everybody else did, Like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to now get a job by a house
Speaker 1: and be home every day. Um, And I tried that
Speaker 1: you know, that really hit me when I first got there,
Speaker 1: and so I quit seal training and got out of
Speaker 1: the Navy. Almost as soon as I did, I just
Speaker 1: felt the pangs of regret hitting me. I realized, like, man,
Speaker 1: the first thing I'm going to demonstrate to my kids
Speaker 1: is how to give up on a dream. So I
Speaker 1: immediately turned around, re enlisted, came in and through the reserves,
Speaker 1: and went back to seal training like you said, and
Speaker 1: I made it. But I think that's and I'm going
Speaker 1: to take this a little bit of a different direction.
Speaker 1: But when we were going to cover us on the
Speaker 1: reserve entry, which I'm pretty sure I'm the only reservist
Speaker 1: who have ever gone to seal training as a reservist
Speaker 1: and make it, there was one other guy. I can't
Speaker 1: somebody would have to fact check this, but yes, if
Speaker 1: I would have not made it, I would have just
Speaker 1: been able to leave the Navy. So it's crazy, but
Speaker 1: you know, I work with a lot of men, usually
Speaker 1: in their late thirties early forties, where they've realized that
Speaker 1: they're walking down a path or have been traveling down
Speaker 1: a path that's really not who they are at their core.
Speaker 1: They're not living out like their breed, like what they're
Speaker 1: born in bread for. And I see that causing so
Speaker 1: so many troubles, and I think that's you know, stories
Speaker 1: like that. I think that's why that's resonated so well
Speaker 1: with someone. So, you know, that was one of the
Speaker 1: tougher times obviously to quit and get especially with little
Speaker 1: color vision problems. So remember I remember, you know, Eric
Speaker 1: and I were at Sniper's Advanced Sniper training and Sniper
Speaker 1: So you were just like fed up, right, You're like,
Speaker 1: I'm out of here the Navy. You're basically fun the Navy.
Speaker 1: I've done my time. You're just on one of those
Speaker 1: one of those kicks, right, you know, I've got this
Speaker 1: plan my might dive physical you know every five years
Speaker 1: if you go through a really in depth physical um
Speaker 1: which does involve a rubber glove unfortunately. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: got two fingers up there, you know. And you're like,
Speaker 1: I'm going to just admit that I I faked the
Speaker 1: color blind tests and they're gonna kick me out like
Speaker 1: it's an automatic out the doctor. What what did he
Speaker 1: say to you? But I just remember you coming back
Speaker 1: extremely frustrated. Let me yeah, like, well, let's just test you,
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm like all right, and I'm like
Speaker 1: red green, white green, you only missed one. It's like,
Speaker 1: you gotta be kidding me. Man, Like I went into
Speaker 1: boot camp, you know what I mean. I told my
Speaker 1: recruiter I couldn't pass a color vision test. MAPS said,
Speaker 1: you can never be a seal. My recruiters like, hey,
Speaker 1: don't worry about if you passed the physical test, they're
Speaker 1: gonna work with you. And I was the only guy
Speaker 1: who passed the physical test. I like fourteen guys who tried.
Speaker 1: And I walked into the medical center there that you know,
Speaker 1: just start my die physical and they opened up my record.
Speaker 1: They're like they saw the fail and they're like you're
Speaker 1: out of here, Like they did not work with me.
Speaker 1: I was done, and like, yeah, but it happened twice.
Speaker 1: I passed two color vision tests on my own. One
Speaker 1: was when I came back into the reserves, and then
Speaker 1: the second, which was maybe a little help Well, I
Speaker 1: mean I had practiced it, I you know, I mean
Speaker 1: I did everything, but no, the one of the reserves,
Speaker 1: I legitimately, it just happened two times. Yeah, so I'm
Speaker 1: a good guesser. That's hilarious, man. Yeah, but you know,
Speaker 1: that's what it is. That's what becoming a seal is.
Speaker 1: Nobody gets through unscathed, right, every every seal has it's
Speaker 1: just too long, it's too hard. Every seal has some
Speaker 1: story about multiple adversities that they had to overcome. And
Speaker 1: I think, you know, and I think that's why we
Speaker 1: do have this community, because people know and can trust that.
Speaker 1: That's one of the classes I gave. I go, you
Speaker 1: know why our special forces? Why do we get the
Speaker 1: attention and we get the The attention comes because we
Speaker 1: persevere like no other. So all of us have this story.
Speaker 1: And just like what you're talking about with your business,
Speaker 1: it's just like you, yeah, I could, okay, I could
Speaker 1: have just sold out and been done and just lived comfortably,
Speaker 1: but you're like, we just hold on and we take
Speaker 1: things through. Yeah. I mean, I mean, it's it's your point. Right.
Speaker 1: Like my first package got denied. I had to do
Speaker 1: a whole another Westpac deployment as a search and rescue swimmer,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, man, well, how the hell
Speaker 1: am I gonna get this? And the package itself is challenging.
Speaker 1: You have to go get your physical and you got
Speaker 1: to do it with this qualified seal you know guy
Speaker 1: that can certify that you passed the entrance exam and
Speaker 1: you gotta get this package filled out. It was just
Speaker 1: like a big package. And the second time through, I
Speaker 1: just handed to my admin and my p N. It's
Speaker 1: like the AM. I was like, hey, can you just
Speaker 1: like make another package for me and like change the
Speaker 1: dates on this. I don't want to have to do
Speaker 1: this all again. But I had to do it all
Speaker 1: over again and and and submit it and my time.
Speaker 1: And then it's like my detailer whose actual name is
Speaker 1: dick Over and detailer in the military is the guy
Speaker 1: signs you your jobs, right, Like this guy was just like,
Speaker 1: I guess a perfect fit by name for this detailer,
Speaker 1: a w one dick Over. I was like, I'll never
Speaker 1: forget it. And he did. He dicked me over on
Speaker 1: my first package. I hope he never became a boy
Speaker 1: Scout leader, so then he you know, that happens to me.
Speaker 1: And it was just a freaking mess. But and then
Speaker 1: the guy that replaced me at the squadron quit but
Speaker 1: he was on shore duty. He went and came back,
Speaker 1: and so everyone's like, oh, good luck, right, you're gonna
Speaker 1: be back here. You know, your seat is not even
Speaker 1: a cool down. But I made it through because I
Speaker 1: just like tried so hard and you know, it took
Speaker 1: me almost four years too to get there, and when
Speaker 1: I enlisted to be a seal, So, um, yeah, I think.
Speaker 1: And the one thing I think that you know, it
Speaker 1: makes us good seals and maybe not maybe not good
Speaker 1: people because they're even I both know, Um, there's guys
Speaker 1: we serve with that for sure, we'd want to go
Speaker 1: to combat with, but you're not bringing them over to
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving dinner and you're sure is not hell hanging out
Speaker 1: with him on the outside. I mean they probably be
Speaker 1: in you know, running up prison cell block somewhere if
Speaker 1: they had enjoined the seal teams. Judgment. The one thing
Speaker 1: I think we all have in commons. We all learn
Speaker 1: how to deal with adversity at a very young age.
Speaker 1: Like even even I know you you lost your dad,
Speaker 1: I mean he was alive, but essentially not in the
Speaker 1: picture at a very young age. I left home. I
Speaker 1: got kicked out at sixteen. So it's like we all
Speaker 1: have these like crazy stories of adversity and we kind
Speaker 1: of learned how to deal with it already, and we
Speaker 1: show up and the people that have not been through that.
Speaker 1: They're fucked. You know, they're the first ones that are
Speaker 1: that are dropping off like flies. And it's not a
Speaker 1: physical thing, it's mental. Like the d one football players,
Speaker 1: like kids that were always talented, you know, they show
Speaker 1: up at steal train. Remember one of my buddies, just
Speaker 1: big Rip football player. He was like always the star.
Speaker 1: But the problem there is he never went through failure,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It came too easy. And
Speaker 1: then you know most people that make it through seal train. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have this. We all have this history. Everyone's got
Speaker 1: this backstory of all the bullshit that we've gone through,
Speaker 1: and it's just they do all these tests, right, Oh
Speaker 1: what sports did you play? With this? I'm like, just
Speaker 1: ask one question, what was your childhood like? And if
Speaker 1: it was a fun up childhood, let him in. Its
Speaker 1: probably gonna make it. Oh yeah, yeah that's what you're
Speaker 1: looking for. Yeah. Absolutely, there's gotta be something wrong in there,
Speaker 1: and someone who has some time on deck dealing with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Okay, so did that job any memories
Speaker 1: of the funny story? I mean, I feel like it's
Speaker 1: story if you want just trying to mom story is
Speaker 1: a good one. But we can even save that for
Speaker 1: I'll do the Guam story like as a video, or
Speaker 1: we're going to do a Navy Seal team room because
Speaker 1: people are asking for probably later this year. So I'm
Speaker 1: trying to get you myself in Clint and maybe a fourth.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe we could Finago Lively because he's oh my god,
Speaker 1: he put a camera up and he's like like a
Speaker 1: moth to flame and he's good. He's really good. I
Speaker 1: want to get us in New York, you know, my
Speaker 1: friend's new bar Black Emperor in the East Village and
Speaker 1: get us on another team room, Navy Seals going to
Speaker 1: the holidays. I mean, we got some stories, right, but
Speaker 1: usually it's you know, involved some type of lady boy
Speaker 1: and and unfortunately, well stories that you want to forget,
Speaker 1: but they just they just burned in the in the memory,
Speaker 1: like I get myself in this situation. Yeah, yeah, that's why. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's fun to be around the other guy because
Speaker 1: the little job. I'm like, yeah, that's how it happens, right,
Speaker 1: like you tell this story. Yeah, I mean I was
Speaker 1: sharing with Eric the other night, like my dad and
Speaker 1: I've always we've had a relationship. It's been a little
Speaker 1: bit up and down and I love the guy. And
Speaker 1: I did get to share like some pretty cool things
Speaker 1: with my dad, which I'm grateful for. Like when Eric
Speaker 1: and I were running the sniper program, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: able to bring my dad too. I think we brought
Speaker 1: him with the range with giving him like like this
Speaker 1: cool experience. Yeah, Captain jab Yeah, we're like hammered out.
Speaker 1: I got him hammered out. Lauren's like driving us back,
Speaker 1: you know, doing Jay turns in the government truck. Um.
Speaker 1: There's like some cool stuff like that that you're able
Speaker 1: to do. And I'm just like grateful. I was able
Speaker 1: to to share that with my dad and it was
Speaker 1: actually cool. He even got to come on. I got
Speaker 1: him on the when I was to ployed on the
Speaker 1: air craft care they do this Tiger cruise when you're
Speaker 1: in Hawaii. You can invite a family member on and
Speaker 1: they ride the boat one week back to San Diego,
Speaker 1: and it was my dad get to fire machine guns
Speaker 1: and see an air show and eat the crappy chow
Speaker 1: and after them, it's like great. I'm just like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm tired of like, yeah, you know, you're like lifetime
Speaker 1: supply Tobasco sauces to ha to taste sauce anymore. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of my own like I've had,
Speaker 1: you know, so many funny stories, just even like the
Speaker 1: pranking that goes on, you know, which in some cases
Speaker 1: it may not seem funny to people, but I mean
Speaker 1: the new guys that still seen three. Right, we used to,
Speaker 1: you know, they'd be on the quarter deck watch and
Speaker 1: they have this p A system and they'd be like boom,
Speaker 1: you know, master chief song, So please come to the
Speaker 1: dive locker, come to the airline. So you know, Lieutenant
Speaker 1: Manter Jones, please your your presence as a question here.
Speaker 1: And so we would call down and be like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: can you I need this guy to show up to
Speaker 1: the dive locker. And it's literally like the it's that
Speaker 1: died and dive training a year ago, and poor guys
Speaker 1: like a team wide announcement and the CEO is like
Speaker 1: running down the remember that there was nothing at all
Speaker 1: that there's nothing like paging this guy that died on
Speaker 1: a dive mission training mission to the dive locker, right.
Speaker 1: I think that's how he'd won it. You know, he's
Speaker 1: been reading for sure. At least then I remember this,
Speaker 1: U remember Dave. He ended up diving in Guam on
Speaker 1: a parachute accident. Yah, Dave Smith was no, no, but
Speaker 1: any this is a funny Dave's story. So Dave, Dave
Speaker 1: gets in a car wreck in South America when he's
Speaker 1: at Team four and basically it's guys have surgery and
Speaker 1: he's got a Costumi bag, you know, and he's like
Speaker 1: literally telling stories of like picking up these women at
Speaker 1: the bar and he's like having sex with them in
Speaker 1: the cols me bag. It's like, slap him in the ass,
Speaker 1: right then, he said, because when he would essentially pass gas,
Speaker 1: this bag would fill up right with methane and he
Speaker 1: would walk through the Team four area and just crop
Speaker 1: dust that's sitting in the plastic too. That's got to
Speaker 1: get special. Plus it's like no filtration, right yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not going through the catch a thing. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: he would just like and clear out the entire team
Speaker 1: are like people running out of the build building. But
Speaker 1: it's just I mean the characters like him and others
Speaker 1: that you've seen, Like, you know, you walk past the
Speaker 1: dip tank where you're rinsing off your gear and there's
Speaker 1: like a metal cruise box with bubbles coming out of it.
Speaker 1: You're like, what's going on here? Like, oh and so
Speaker 1: and so screwed up. We put him in the box
Speaker 1: with a with a regulator and he's like trapped in
Speaker 1: this box with you know, underwater, with the regulator device
Speaker 1: breathing in this It's like terrible stuff. But we'll get
Speaker 1: I think we can fit in one funny story that joggony. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the only thing I'm thinking about the third phase, But
Speaker 1: how do I still don't know if it's funny thatough,
Speaker 1: But I'll just tell it because we got a little
Speaker 1: bit more time. As we're you probably remember the swim
Speaker 1: is like we're all climbing down on a bunch of
Speaker 1: rocks and the waves were up that night, so the
Speaker 1: waves were actually breaking on the very rocks we're supposed
Speaker 1: to launch from. God, it's not a funny story. It's
Speaker 1: just a story, I suppose. But I just remember just
Speaker 1: all these guys, you know, Harry Chested almost Frogman third phase,
Speaker 1: and um, I don't know where you. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you because I've known you in the water. You
Speaker 1: wouldn't have hesitated at all. You probably just slipped in
Speaker 1: at some point. But I was around a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of guys that just did not did not know what
Speaker 1: to do. Like they're just I mean, they're scared because
Speaker 1: it's scary when the waves are and this is that night,
Speaker 1: No I know exactly the night that was the night
Speaker 1: we were held out. I think it was some type
Speaker 1: of bullshit OTB training or something. But we swam out
Speaker 1: from those surf yeah, and gone on the rocks in
Speaker 1: North Its Harbor, and then we just kept us out
Speaker 1: there like three in the morning. Were really quick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we do know someone that tried to quit. That was hilarious. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just then it's just like all right, everybody up here,
Speaker 1: and I'm like he got there first because he was
Speaker 1: already already quit. It was awesome. It's so funny. Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: So yeah, not a funny story. I just it's just
Speaker 1: a really memorable one, just because I've grown up around
Speaker 1: the ocean and I just like looking around at all
Speaker 1: these guys, like, yeah, aren't we supposed to get in
Speaker 1: the water, and they're just like, we don't know, we
Speaker 1: don't know what to do. And I just strapped my
Speaker 1: fins on in a big wave and I just jumped
Speaker 1: as hard as I could and it was big enough
Speaker 1: because I wasn't playing, so I dripped as hard as
Speaker 1: I could, and I guess I just started kicking in
Speaker 1: the air. So by the time I, you know, I
Speaker 1: got out in the water and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: everyone is right behind me and there, dude, you just
Speaker 1: look so freaking froggy. I was fired up and I
Speaker 1: got in So yeah, not super funny, but it's just
Speaker 1: a memorable moment. I do have a funny story to
Speaker 1: share because when I were and even in the same
Speaker 1: squad and third phase, I got too funny stories. Remember
Speaker 1: when Bulls we were briefing the f t X, and
Speaker 1: I forget the Bulls got rolled into our squad and
Speaker 1: somehow like we were getting punished, right, he was slow
Speaker 1: on the hill runs and we're competing, so like we
Speaker 1: inherited him and were we end up getting punished. So
Speaker 1: as a way to get back, we did the f
Speaker 1: t X. We briefed on this one of the FTS
Speaker 1: final training exercises we did. Instructor Ryan said, Okay, guys,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to get one of you guys to
Speaker 1: volunteer to get taken hostage. Instructor Bryan, and so we're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: who's it going to be? And then we're like, well,
Speaker 1: let's let's pick bulls. So we had to like and
Speaker 1: so we we hit the target. The other we got
Speaker 1: ambushed and he was the volunteer hostage. We had an
Speaker 1: ide him like it was a role playing thing. So
Speaker 1: he's like, okay, well, I guess we're like, hey, bulls,
Speaker 1: you gotta wear this outfit. And he had no idea
Speaker 1: you was gonna get taken hostage. And so we're like
Speaker 1: back after the mission, drinking hot coffee and he's been
Speaker 1: taking hostair. Guys, what's happening? Wait a minute, why am I?
Speaker 1: Why am I getting And he's like going on this
Speaker 1: over the beach op and then those guys weren't going
Speaker 1: to get done until like four in the morning, and
Speaker 1: we're just remember that, and then I do remember you
Speaker 1: being the medic and you're like hey guys, Like everyone's like,
Speaker 1: when are we going to get to sleep? When are
Speaker 1: we gonna get to sleep? Right? And because we're like
Speaker 1: like sleep deprived three hours of sleep for a month,
Speaker 1: and I was like, like no way, thirty days out here,
Speaker 1: demolitions like high card machine guns, grenades, like don't even
Speaker 1: worry about it. We're gonna get there, gonna it's just unsafe.
Speaker 1: They gotta let us sleep. And I was like at
Speaker 1: the end of like, dude, on that one motherfucker. I
Speaker 1: remember that, like thirty days later, it's like, I guess,
Speaker 1: I guess I'm gonna let us go to sleep. I don't, like,
Speaker 1: how do you do that? For a month, I was like,
Speaker 1: what's going on? But I did, which I would rather
Speaker 1: go through Hell Week twice than that four weeks at
Speaker 1: the island. Dude, Hell Week was just just preparatory. Yeah, preparatory,
Speaker 1: plus you get this shirt. I do remember, though, I
Speaker 1: did say the whole that was my thing, and it's
Speaker 1: like one of my mental management things. I'd be like, no,
Speaker 1: we're not even gonna pt when we get there, Like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't worry. Guys were probably not even getting in
Speaker 1: the water. Like I just I operated as nothing was
Speaker 1: going to happen. So I never was scared of what
Speaker 1: was to come because I just full mental management. But
Speaker 1: one time instructor Ryan showed up drunk as a monkey
Speaker 1: for MORNINGPT and just said get out of here. That
Speaker 1: was one. So I told that told that story for
Speaker 1: six seven months. Every first time. Back to the Hell
Speaker 1: Week shirt reference, you get a you're in a white
Speaker 1: shirt first phase, and when you pass Hell week, you
Speaker 1: get a brown shirt. And if you're running around the
Speaker 1: compound on a brown shirt, everyone knows you pass Hell Week.
Speaker 1: So it's like a big status to finish off because
Speaker 1: I know we gotta wrap up. So, yeah, we're dead.
Speaker 1: I think the only night we get a decent like
Speaker 1: four hours sleep, we just get rousted at like four
Speaker 1: and it's like three four in the morning by all
Speaker 1: the instructors would come back from that salty crab bar hammered,
Speaker 1: you know, like I wake up and like Bulls is
Speaker 1: doing jumping, Jack's naked. They just got like yanked out
Speaker 1: of the rack and it was like ball sack and
Speaker 1: bung hole everywhere. Why are they stay? And yeah, you're right,
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my god, it's the grinder.
Speaker 1: So we're like this is a bad dream, like please
Speaker 1: make this go away. And so we we kind of
Speaker 1: after like the initial torture session in the barracks, we
Speaker 1: get out there and we're just like we had a
Speaker 1: five thirty in the morning PT scheduled anyway, and but
Speaker 1: this is like three thirty and you know, and now
Speaker 1: we're getting dark beaten by a bunch of drunk, sadistic
Speaker 1: seal instructors. And Ryan is like an animal, physical animal,
Speaker 1: and he jumping jack himself off the big podium and
Speaker 1: fell hit the ground and we kind of all like,
Speaker 1: we're like, what do we do now? We just kind
Speaker 1: of like converge slowly. Time to go. He's like, alright, fellas,
Speaker 1: I'm done training, you guys go back to sleep, And
Speaker 1: we ended up getting to sleep in yeah, and just
Speaker 1: go straight to chow because they were so so wreck that. Yeah. Man,
Speaker 1: there's so much, so many funny stories like that. It
Speaker 1: is comedy. The whole thing is comedy. It is coming
Speaker 1: like you could literally tell stories about training deployments and
Speaker 1: it would just be like NonStop comedy. It's like funny
Speaker 1: because you because back to the cast of characters, you
Speaker 1: have the guys that used to be preachers, sons, just
Speaker 1: such a mix. It was all kind That's why I
Speaker 1: don't see a movie. I'm always bummed that, like you'll
Speaker 1: see the seal instructor being all serious. I'm like, what,
Speaker 1: that's the only time a movie bothers me about not
Speaker 1: being real because they're missing I'm like, no, it's so funny.
Speaker 1: That's why again we're you know, my vision with the
Speaker 1: business is to kind of become the Marvel of specials
Speaker 1: military contents because there's so much there that just isn't yeah,
Speaker 1: isn't being told so many there's so many people like
Speaker 1: out there like want to hear those stories. I want
Speaker 1: to hear So if I miss him, it's so funny.
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