Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast uses Beard products. We welcome
Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My
Speaker 1: name is Dan Hansens, and I am joined and a
Speaker 1: commissioner suite filled with heroes Mark Sesler, Chris Westling and
Speaker 1: Greg roseatal What is up? Boys? Hey? Then I tell
Speaker 1: no tales, all tales. We are still keeping up our
Speaker 1: unbeatable far Vian streak of being the last humans out
Speaker 1: of a stadium after a major NFL tent pole event.
Speaker 1: We are still at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium at one am
Speaker 1: after the Panthers and Bucks went at it ages ago,
Speaker 1: and we're recording this from Commissioner Roger Goodell's suite high
Speaker 1: above the field. In fact, I hold in my hand boys,
Speaker 1: a bottle of Ruggiero Prasico Dott and we will be
Speaker 1: opening this at the conclusion of today's episode. And Roger,
Speaker 1: you could build us right. I guess my one suggestion
Speaker 1: for our commissioner would be, you know, don't lock the fridges.
Speaker 1: You know, all the drinks that we can find around here,
Speaker 1: and I'm just talking water in soda are warm, so
Speaker 1: the cold beverages are locked. They thought to do that,
Speaker 1: but the warm ones we can steal. The great thing
Speaker 1: is is for a commissioner who we we certainly respect,
Speaker 1: a lot who has never heard of our show. Likely well,
Speaker 1: now that's not true that at this point, you know,
Speaker 1: the biggest impact we've had on him is stealing a
Speaker 1: two bottle Champagne. I've never seen at our shadowy league
Speaker 1: figure that's in the room look more uncomfortable than right now,
Speaker 1: furious just to have John Runyan sent us a FedEx
Speaker 1: envelope like we're vante is perfect and isn't it? Isn't
Speaker 1: it mark fitting that in the Commissioner's special suite, right
Speaker 1: in the center of the room there is a glass
Speaker 1: encased in glass Lombardi trophy. And even in this setting,
Speaker 1: Greg is closer to the Lombardi than you and I.
Speaker 1: I mean, as far as the east is from the west,
Speaker 1: is how far away I am from it? At this
Speaker 1: point you're you seem a little bit closer. Today You've
Speaker 1: got you got the bouncing your step. The old juser
Speaker 1: got a w alright, a lot to get to and yes,
Speaker 1: it was a really fun special day. Uh here in
Speaker 1: London as we end our hopefully annual trip to England,
Speaker 1: Jolly old England, Um and we had such a great
Speaker 1: time on the field here at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. We
Speaker 1: did uh. We did multiple rounds of work with Sky
Speaker 1: Sports and our good buddy Neil Reynolds and company, and they,
Speaker 1: as always were super inviting and uh, that was great.
Speaker 1: We we did a lot of media. Greg. This was
Speaker 1: a this is one of the busiest days ever for
Speaker 1: the podcast. We learned how difficult sideline reporting is with
Speaker 1: like massive video was playing in your ears as Hannah
Speaker 1: Wilkes from Sky Sports was trying to ask us questions
Speaker 1: and we're just guessing what to say. Yeah, she's a
Speaker 1: total total pro, and I mean we were learning on
Speaker 1: the fly. To me, it was like I've always wondered
Speaker 1: what it would be like to be reporting live from
Speaker 1: Bay Route under fire, and it was like, that's how
Speaker 1: it would sound audibly a thing, very loud, disturbing. We're
Speaker 1: also on the JumboTron for the first time in front
Speaker 1: of like thirty thousand people, doing a fifteen minute mini
Speaker 1: pregame show. That was pretty surreal. One of the more
Speaker 1: surreal moments of our careers. Greg was a lot from
Speaker 1: the Greg was feeling himself. He got the Panthers to
Speaker 1: give a nice shout. Well, I've always it was a
Speaker 1: career goal here. Ever since I was a little boy,
Speaker 1: I've always dreamed of saying, are Anny Pentthers fans in here?
Speaker 1: And they responded, And then the producer of the hit
Speaker 1: as soon as it ended, he was a gentleman from
Speaker 1: around here. It was like you never ever do that.
Speaker 1: It worked. It was good. I like it. You worked you.
Speaker 1: It was a high wire act typical of Greg who
Speaker 1: is just his whole career has been one high wire
Speaker 1: act of excitement. That's the way I look at it.
Speaker 1: We got a lot of games to get too, so, yes,
Speaker 1: we were at this game. Uh so why don't we,
Speaker 1: as we spent through all of the games on Sunday
Speaker 1: of week six, why don't we start with a game
Speaker 1: that we attended. Yes here in London. Hit it. Ricky
Speaker 1: Panthers going on silent count. On first down, Allen looks smiddle,
Speaker 1: no rechiever. Jonathan McCaffrey is left flat. McCaffrey to the
Speaker 1: spinds away touchdown Carolina McCaffrey left side. He made three
Speaker 1: or four Buccaneers look like they've never practiced. Panther's radio
Speaker 1: network with the call, Christian McCaffrey scored two touchdowns, and
Speaker 1: Carolina turned five interceptions five interceptions by Jamis Winston into
Speaker 1: seventeen points. That's four straight wins now for the Panthers
Speaker 1: after thirty seven to win over the Bucks, and wasn't
Speaker 1: even really that close because Carolina from from the jump
Speaker 1: was the superior team. The very first play from scrimmage
Speaker 1: was a Jamis Winston interception interception, which was obviously a
Speaker 1: sign of things to come. Winston under constant arrest. The
Speaker 1: right side of Tampa's offensive line was missing with an injury,
Speaker 1: with injuries, and you could see it. Um, we had,
Speaker 1: you know, we were lucky enough to be down on
Speaker 1: the field for large portions of this game. Uh, and
Speaker 1: also in the press box which had a good sight line,
Speaker 1: you know, line of sight. Sum, this is such a
Speaker 1: great place and you could see it, almost see it
Speaker 1: on Winston's face. The Uh, he was shook, as the
Speaker 1: kids say. He was never comfortable in the pocket, and
Speaker 1: that led to turnover after turnover after turnover, and Carolina
Speaker 1: didn't light it up offensively themselves. I believe they finished
Speaker 1: under three hundred yards of total offensor were certainly in
Speaker 1: that neighborhood but they didn't need to because they kept
Speaker 1: on getting good field position. Christian McCaffrey was held at
Speaker 1: about a hunt hard and a half a carry, but
Speaker 1: still scored two touchdowns, including uh that twenty five yard
Speaker 1: play where you broke about seven pairs of ankles in
Speaker 1: the Tampa secondary. So the Panthers get the job done
Speaker 1: against a uh A Tampa Bay team that seemed jet
Speaker 1: lag quite frankly. UH four wins in a row, four
Speaker 1: and two Now for the Panthers, I believe in one
Speaker 1: of our myriad prediction exercises, according to some of our listeners,
Speaker 1: I predicted a five interception game for Jamis Winston. We
Speaker 1: preview this game like forty seven times. It's hard to
Speaker 1: remember which I didn't see this much of a meltdown,
Speaker 1: and I don't know how much of it is on
Speaker 1: the offensive line, but back to back sacks in the
Speaker 1: red zone, wanna lost fumble, and then the five interceptions.
Speaker 1: It was it was you know, you're waiting for Jameis
Speaker 1: Winston to show tangible signs of improvement, and for the
Speaker 1: first two or three weeks of the season, you could say, hey,
Speaker 1: they're moving the ball, they're scoring points. It's the offense
Speaker 1: that's carrying this team, and now it's just it's the
Speaker 1: same Jamis Winston where it's one step forward, two steps back.
Speaker 1: You just can't trust him not but sits a check
Speaker 1: and you know he can't trust him not to get rattled,
Speaker 1: and for that offense to have rhythm for an entire game,
Speaker 1: it just doesn't happen. I really like that cameo by
Speaker 1: Paula Abduel, and I think mc scat cat. I feel
Speaker 1: like we've been building to this moment on the Around
Speaker 1: the NFL podcast since the moment Jamis Winston was drafted
Speaker 1: number one in two thousand and fourteen. It had to
Speaker 1: end here, like our journey of me defending Jamis Winston
Speaker 1: had to end in person in London. After you're gonna
Speaker 1: stop defending him, I I mean, what's there left to do?
Speaker 1: I mean five interceptions, seven sacks, two fumbles. It there's
Speaker 1: no more. There's nothing left to defend. And and we'll
Speaker 1: get to Marcus Mariota later, but he was benched for
Speaker 1: the first time in his career while he's healthy. In
Speaker 1: this debate we've had forever is the most pointless debate
Speaker 1: evers Winston. Even before this game, was started, was in
Speaker 1: his own head. He was just holding the ball just
Speaker 1: like he did in New Orleans. And I think he
Speaker 1: was beaten by the coordinator Ron Rivera uh in Carolina
Speaker 1: and everything that was going on even before they started
Speaker 1: the game. It was the ultimate at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, much ado about nothing with these two guys.
Speaker 1: And maybe maybe the last chapter hasn't been written with
Speaker 1: these guys, but that will be the storyline that comes
Speaker 1: out of uh this Sunday. That and we're gonna get
Speaker 1: to Mariota. But Winston I don't know if he gets
Speaker 1: benched uh going into next week. Bruce Arians, Greg, I
Speaker 1: think you might have heard or read that he seemed
Speaker 1: very annoyed after this game, as I imagine he would be.
Speaker 1: But the window now you can imagine, Mark is closing
Speaker 1: very quickly on Winston to be able to make any
Speaker 1: type of impression on the new coaching stamp. Well, it's
Speaker 1: the whole messaging was that, Bruce Arians. It wasn't that
Speaker 1: he was going to make Jamis Winston into a yardage monster,
Speaker 1: because he already was that he was those things to
Speaker 1: begin with this hundred yards A lot of it coming
Speaker 1: into you know, late in the game when it didn't
Speaker 1: really matter. I mean to me, arians has to look
Speaker 1: at this quarterback. He's been around a lot of them
Speaker 1: and say, if I can't get this guy to play
Speaker 1: safer football, protect us and not put us in this position.
Speaker 1: This is an un manageable mission from a quarterback guru's perspective.
Speaker 1: I will say this too. They played a defense in
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers that is becoming an absolute chaos spinning unit.
Speaker 1: And one that this the you know, the these NFC
Speaker 1: South teams all were locked. They don't feel locked to
Speaker 1: me right now. The Panthers with this defense, and we've
Speaker 1: seen this with Ron Rivera before. It doesn't matter who's
Speaker 1: at quarterback. It doesn't matter that Christian McCaffrey was held
Speaker 1: to about fifty seven yards today. The defense made all
Speaker 1: the difference. Now, you're not gonna play Jamis Winston every week,
Speaker 1: and you're not gonna get some of the throws he
Speaker 1: gave them. But they're doing this. They're disrupting the pocket
Speaker 1: week after week. You know who had a ton of
Speaker 1: injuries on the old line to Carolina, who had a
Speaker 1: ton of injuries on defense? Carolina. They they're getting to
Speaker 1: thereby at four and to Kyle Allen made a couple
Speaker 1: of nice throws today. He has not thrown an interception
Speaker 1: yet in his career. I know he's had the fumble problems.
Speaker 1: That was not a problem today. I would say both
Speaker 1: of Winston and Allen, their best throws of the day
Speaker 1: were dropped. It was a sloppy game here in the
Speaker 1: in the bucks, especially who arrived on Friday afternoon. I
Speaker 1: tell you, I mean, I know we're not experts on
Speaker 1: jet lagger, but that doesn't feel like everyone here thinks
Speaker 1: that's just not enough time. It seems great on Friday.
Speaker 1: We're still up to four am every just it's hard
Speaker 1: to it's hard to sleep. But that was my my
Speaker 1: two takeaways um from a player perspective, nice revenge game
Speaker 1: by Gerald McCoy. To Aaron is probably the best player
Speaker 1: against Tamby. He was all over the place, living in
Speaker 1: the backfield. And yes on the day that Kyle Allen
Speaker 1: has a nice day, not a lights out day, but
Speaker 1: a nice day in a resounding victory for the Panthers.
Speaker 1: Our own Ian Rapp Report puts out a report this
Speaker 1: morning that Cam Newton might not immediately get a starting
Speaker 1: job back Just when when when? He gets healthy, which
Speaker 1: might not be uh for a while. We're still figuring
Speaker 1: out how long he's going to be out, but that
Speaker 1: we had heard whispers of that earlier this week, and
Speaker 1: then the report comes out that Kyle and as long
Speaker 1: as they keep winning, you're not gonna see Cam just
Speaker 1: waltz back onto the field. So that's a big subplot.
Speaker 1: And the final thoughts from this game. Let's say one
Speaker 1: thing about the crowd here, because if this game we're
Speaker 1: happening in Tampa, the stadium would have cleared out early
Speaker 1: third quarter when the wheels were completely spinning off the vehicle.
Speaker 1: And it's special here. People don't leave, and that's a
Speaker 1: unique thing. I understand why if you're a season ticket
Speaker 1: holder in Tampa you're very frustrated. But I think for
Speaker 1: the Bucks who this was a home game for them,
Speaker 1: not in theory but in practice, and they felt that
Speaker 1: that support today even when they were not giving any
Speaker 1: reason for that. The crowd was going crazy when they
Speaker 1: were scoring a touchdown down thirty twenty, when they were
Speaker 1: picking up first downs down thirty seven to six. I
Speaker 1: was really impressed by the crowd in general. It was
Speaker 1: a home game in practice, but not in theory the
Speaker 1: other way around both, but in practice I don't find
Speaker 1: home games to be in London necessarily they had, They
Speaker 1: had a better crowd than I expect. I figured it
Speaker 1: was gonna be heavy Caroline. It was, and I would
Speaker 1: say it was a little final thought West, Well, I've
Speaker 1: got two of them. First of all, you can't bench
Speaker 1: Jameis Winston, Ryan Griffin. The backup doesn't have an NFL arm.
Speaker 1: There's no point there. Two and four. You're gonna play
Speaker 1: this out and Bruce Arians specifically cited Jamis Winston as
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback for the reason he came back to
Speaker 1: the to the NFL as the Buccaneers coach. The second thing, Dan,
Speaker 1: We've noticed um in London there's a bit more of
Speaker 1: a wild West atmosphere as far as things that people
Speaker 1: can get away with. We noticed Thursday night at one
Speaker 1: of our shows they were handing out beers to the audience,
Speaker 1: which you would not see event never excuse the drink
Speaker 1: in England. In the press box today, towards the end
Speaker 1: of the game, Michael Pollardi, the punter for the Panthers,
Speaker 1: unleashed one and the press box announcers announced this way
Speaker 1: and this one is not fumbled by Bob Bobo Newsom
Speaker 1: the returner. You would never hear that in American Stadium, No,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't. All right, let us move on to to
Speaker 1: me the best game of the day. In Kansas City
Speaker 1: four to three at the Chiefs twenty seven yard line.
Speaker 1: De Sean puts the light down. Here's the snap Watson throwing.
Speaker 1: How do you top gets for a first down? The
Speaker 1: game is over. The Texans can kill the clock in
Speaker 1: Kansas City. What a cutsy call. Fourth down, Watson too,
Speaker 1: Hopkins to drill the knife in the heart of the chief.
Speaker 1: Mark vandermere with there's that terrible new music, Ricky. We
Speaker 1: are going to address this together. We get back to
Speaker 1: the States. Now. We gotta find another alternative. If if,
Speaker 1: if we're gonna be robbed of our rightful music by
Speaker 1: the shadowy league figures, we need to find something better.
Speaker 1: Mark vander Meer, Texans Radio Network with the call the
Speaker 1: Shaun Watson. Well, you can bring it back up while
Speaker 1: I'm doing the read. Well, you don't like it. Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson threw for two yards and a touchdown. He ran
Speaker 1: for two scores and Patrick Mahomes could not keep up
Speaker 1: the Texans a thirty one to win over the Chiefs
Speaker 1: in Kansas City West. The Texans could have had The
Speaker 1: Texans could have won this game going away. Have they
Speaker 1: executed executed better, but even imperfect performance, they won an
Speaker 1: Arrowhead and again announced we are a legit a f
Speaker 1: C contender. Yeah, it looked like Will Fuller dropped a
Speaker 1: couple of potential touchdowns. DeAndre Hopkins had an uncharacteristic drop
Speaker 1: in the red zone. Deshaun Watson threw an end zone
Speaker 1: interception on fourth and one. This could take her issues.
Speaker 1: They could have scored over points in this game. And
Speaker 1: and this is how dominant was It was the highest
Speaker 1: time of possession by an opponent in a non overtime
Speaker 1: game at Arrowhead Stadium. Ever, whoa they kicked them up
Speaker 1: and down the field. Chiefs defense could not get off
Speaker 1: the field. They ran for over a hundred and ninety
Speaker 1: yards on forty carries. This was a just it seemed
Speaker 1: like the better team one And this is going back
Speaker 1: a few weeks now. The Colts were the better team
Speaker 1: against the Chiefs last week. The week before that, I
Speaker 1: thought the Lions were the better team against the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: This this is a team that's not helping his quarterback
Speaker 1: on a day when Tyreek Hill comes back and has
Speaker 1: a couple of at least one spectackler play and another touchdown.
Speaker 1: This was an arena league type of game where a
Speaker 1: stop kind of counted double. You know, you said they
Speaker 1: could add forty five, but a lot of those dropped
Speaker 1: plays they end up scoring anyways. They they didn't punt.
Speaker 1: The Texans did not punt. The only the only way
Speaker 1: they were stopped were a mistake UH. Carlos Hide fumbled
Speaker 1: on the first play of the game. There was an
Speaker 1: interception um on a on a late throw from Watson,
Speaker 1: which was an incredible one handed catch by Tcharvarius Ward.
Speaker 1: But other than that, they did whatever they want. It
Speaker 1: was downhill. The stat that is just wild to me.
Speaker 1: Once the Texans took the ball UH late in the
Speaker 1: first quarter, they had seventy two offensive plays to for
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. That is playing downhill. That is domination.
Speaker 1: But this was also a banged up Patrick Mahomes that's
Speaker 1: been weeks in a row at this point, behind a
Speaker 1: banged up offensive line. Right, he's not physically right. And
Speaker 1: on the flip side, you get to Shaun Watson when
Speaker 1: when you get these games when he's not not thrown
Speaker 1: around zero sacks and you have Carlos Hide. I don't
Speaker 1: know what sort of body double switch occurred with Carlos
Speaker 1: Hide at some point here, but they bill O'Brien he
Speaker 1: went after him, and a lot of people critiqued that move,
Speaker 1: and for good reason, because Carlos Hide has just not
Speaker 1: been a thing for a while, floating from team to team.
Speaker 1: Twenty six carries a hundred and sixteen yards. They favor
Speaker 1: him over Duke Johnson, There's no question about that. And
Speaker 1: today you know he did he he was a grinder
Speaker 1: for them. They you couldn't get them off the field.
Speaker 1: We have enough evidence now to to say that O'Brien
Speaker 1: he had mightus touched in that month heading into the
Speaker 1: season because Uh and Laramie Tunsel, they got the left
Speaker 1: tackle they desperately needed. And for the second straight week,
Speaker 1: Watson was protected incredibly well. And when you protect Deshaun Watson, well,
Speaker 1: he's as good as any player in the entire football
Speaker 1: National Football League. So it's that type of thing. And
Speaker 1: in the running back tandem that was a major issue
Speaker 1: with this team. UH, they were gonna lean on Lamar Miller,
Speaker 1: who even though I used to be a fan of
Speaker 1: Lamar Miller, he never was a guy that scared anybody.
Speaker 1: And now they have this two headed attack. It's amazing.
Speaker 1: Just five years ago your team at the end of
Speaker 1: August was your team for the year. That's how the
Speaker 1: NFL works. And now you know, you got Carlos hide in,
Speaker 1: Duke Johnson who aren't even there for training camp, and
Speaker 1: it's a whole new backfield. Your left tackles knew. It's
Speaker 1: just a different NFL combined into Duke Johnson had a
Speaker 1: receiving touchdown was really an athletic play to get himself
Speaker 1: into the end zone. I mean, it was just an
Speaker 1: unbelievable And the Mahomes injury which he the ankle injury
Speaker 1: suffered on Sunday Night football. It's been a rough um
Speaker 1: seven days for this team. He got it rolled up
Speaker 1: on again in this game, and you could tell that
Speaker 1: he's not the same guy right now. Well, he took
Speaker 1: two massive hits or in the first half, where you're
Speaker 1: just not used to seeing him hit that hard. That said,
Speaker 1: they didn't punt either until the fourth quarter. They didn't
Speaker 1: have the ball in the second half, and they went
Speaker 1: three and out twice in the fourth quarter, and that
Speaker 1: basically was the ball game. The key sequence was again
Speaker 1: his protection breaking down late in the first half. And
Speaker 1: your boy, it was about thirty seconds left and they're
Speaker 1: trying to get a quick three points. Well, what's your
Speaker 1: boy's name? You know who I'm talking about. The Texans
Speaker 1: past Charles comes, he gets the he gets the strip sack,
Speaker 1: and the Texans pick up a quick fumble and that
Speaker 1: was a ten point swing, and that to me was
Speaker 1: the key. Yeah, Mahomes is banged up, but that doesn't
Speaker 1: explain what's going on with this defense. This is supposed
Speaker 1: to be an approved defense. A couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: that was you know, a buzz a buzzy narrative around it. Well,
Speaker 1: right now they don't look too hot. Well, by far,
Speaker 1: the best player on defense is Chris Jones. He's one
Speaker 1: of the best defensive players in the entire league. He's
Speaker 1: not there. And their defensive end tandem of Frank Clark
Speaker 1: and Alex Oka for have been almost non existent from
Speaker 1: a past rush standpoint this year, and teams are running
Speaker 1: all over them too. Wes, you're worried about the Chiefs
Speaker 1: are is this just a little bump of the road
Speaker 1: right now. I think we'll see a different team on
Speaker 1: offense when they're fully healthy, and now that they have
Speaker 1: Tyreek hillback, that doesn't bother me as much. When the
Speaker 1: quarterbacks healthy, in the offensive line is healthy, they'll move
Speaker 1: the ball. It's it's the defense where I just I
Speaker 1: don't see that backbone that you need for a championship team.
Speaker 1: They're the team that needs the bye week to happen sooner.
Speaker 1: It doesn't happen for months for them, all right. So
Speaker 1: the Chiefs couldn't get any stop stops. Let's check in
Speaker 1: on a team that plays in the NFC West that
Speaker 1: couldn't stop getting stops. Can't stop getting stops, that's a thing.
Speaker 1: Ports and goal one yard line. They walk to the line.
Speaker 1: Here's a GiB, dam Malcolm Brown. He did not get
Speaker 1: the goal line stand. They will take over on their
Speaker 1: own one yard line. Greg Pop and Tim Ryan with
Speaker 1: a call. Yeah, that was really the turning point of
Speaker 1: this game between the Niners and Rams of the cal
Speaker 1: seeum a goal line stop by that San Francisco defense
Speaker 1: in the second quarter, and the Rams never really competed again.
Speaker 1: The forty Niners seven a win that even the score
Speaker 1: even it was a convincing win score wise, if that
Speaker 1: doesn't quite tell the story here of how dominant the
Speaker 1: Niners were, uh. I mean, this was a game Jared Goff,
Speaker 1: a guy who this time last year was getting m
Speaker 1: v P chatter and he's been up and down this
Speaker 1: year as we know, but he was held the seventy
Speaker 1: eight yards passing a career low and no Todd Gurley.
Speaker 1: They ran the ball pretty well, the Rams did early
Speaker 1: on in the game, but eventually San San Francisco just
Speaker 1: squeezed the life uh out of the Rams in their building.
Speaker 1: I mean, that is a big, big win for the Niners,
Speaker 1: who are now five and oh and any questions greg
Speaker 1: about the Niners are being answered over the last six
Speaker 1: days with their performances against the Browns at home and
Speaker 1: the Rams on the road, and all these concerns that
Speaker 1: have been in the periphery around the Rams are now
Speaker 1: coming to focus as if to tell us the Rams
Speaker 1: might be in trouble. They are because the forty Niners
Speaker 1: and the Seahawks are in their division, and the forty
Speaker 1: Niners almost feel chemically engineered to beat the Rams. The
Speaker 1: rams two biggest weaknesses without a doubt right now our
Speaker 1: past protection and so you play the forty Niners in
Speaker 1: this front and Jared Goff has no time. Jared Goff
Speaker 1: had one more first down than Blake Bortles did today. One,
Speaker 1: that's it. And then the other big weakness the Rams
Speaker 1: have had, really since Wade Phillips has been there, has
Speaker 1: been their run defense. It doesn't hurt you as much
Speaker 1: when you're head in games, but it certainly hurt today
Speaker 1: and you fall behind against the forty Niners and they
Speaker 1: were able to control things in the second. The Niners
Speaker 1: when they are good, are absolutely ferocious bullies. And it's
Speaker 1: a lot of these parts that you know the past
Speaker 1: couple off seasons and seasons they've had players on defense
Speaker 1: and offense and when will it all gel come together
Speaker 1: and turn into wins. Well, it is happening right now.
Speaker 1: And their formula when they get up early in games
Speaker 1: or they start to tire out of defense, then unleash
Speaker 1: their ground game. They're unstoppable. And it's every team that
Speaker 1: deals with San Francisco comes out of it with that.
Speaker 1: That city's media questioning the coaching staff, questioning the quarterback
Speaker 1: attached to that team because they're going in and dropping
Speaker 1: mega hammers on people left and right, and anyone who thought, oh,
Speaker 1: you know what, well, you've got to go actually beat
Speaker 1: the Rams for us to believe in you will box
Speaker 1: checked a day. Yeah, two weeks in a row. They
Speaker 1: played against overrated offenses. The Browns offense isn't very good.
Speaker 1: The Rams offense is not good. And there's a lot
Speaker 1: of listeners asking us to talk about Sean McVeigh. I
Speaker 1: don't think that he all of a sudden got dumb,
Speaker 1: and he's a smart coach. They had the two thousand
Speaker 1: seventeen Offensive Player of the Year and the first team
Speaker 1: All Pro who is now the last ranked running back
Speaker 1: in Pro football, focused their entire offense based on Todd
Speaker 1: Gurley and how their run looks look the same as
Speaker 1: their past looks. And now it's not happening. Jared Goff
Speaker 1: hasn't played well, and the offensive line is materially different
Speaker 1: than it was. I just think, gone from one of
Speaker 1: the best to one of the worst. You've gone those
Speaker 1: three things are happening, and I just Okay, maybe some
Speaker 1: coaches have a blueprint on Sean mcveigh's offense, but it
Speaker 1: also isn't the same offense without Todd Gurley. You know
Speaker 1: what happened to him. He got Robert Salad, right, And
Speaker 1: that's why you gotta with If you're Greg's earl and
Speaker 1: you gotta kick, you gotta hit that kick last week
Speaker 1: in Seattle, because you don't know when you're gonna really
Speaker 1: really need it. And at this point their three down
Speaker 1: in the division and they have to go to San
Speaker 1: Francisco later and they're not good wes you were talking about,
Speaker 1: you were talking about in a similar situation a few
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, although their fortunes have changed
Speaker 1: dramatically since then. That people just putting the making struggles
Speaker 1: on Kirk Cousins. We're not looking at the big picture.
Speaker 1: I think golf is going to get the Lions share
Speaker 1: of the heat here after having a miserable game. But
Speaker 1: for all the reasons that you're you've just stated that
Speaker 1: the offensive line is not playing well, that Todd Gurley
Speaker 1: was one of the best football players in the world
Speaker 1: eighteen months ago and now he's just another guy. Potentially,
Speaker 1: the Rams are in a bit of a transition that
Speaker 1: they're going through in real time, and sometimes that can
Speaker 1: cost you a season. We we always simplify it because
Speaker 1: it's way too complex for us to understand, and we're
Speaker 1: not close enough to the situation to know exactly what's
Speaker 1: going on. But it's it's never just the quarterback's fault,
Speaker 1: and Golf has not played with the same confidence. He's
Speaker 1: dropping back a lot more because they can't do as
Speaker 1: much play action without a good running game. So I
Speaker 1: think you're seeing part of that. But yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it's four or five things that are going wrong. Jimmy
Speaker 1: G is a great example of it's not just the quarterback.
Speaker 1: He's throwing seven touchdowns and five interceptions. That the RAMS defense,
Speaker 1: they'll take what they gave today. They're not really built
Speaker 1: to be a dominant defense. They had the ball eleven times,
Speaker 1: they scored twenty points, they got about three hundred yards.
Speaker 1: You know, that's that's kind of what the RAMS defense
Speaker 1: is going to do. Jimmy G's okay, but he's supported
Speaker 1: by right now, kind of the best supporting group in
Speaker 1: the entire NFL. I would suggest, I know that people
Speaker 1: will want to, you know, check this out on a
Speaker 1: condensed forty minute version of the game. I would I
Speaker 1: would suggest that you watch the entire thing in real
Speaker 1: time Uh, the announcing was a little rough, but you
Speaker 1: could gather your friends around. A little bit rough, but
Speaker 1: you could gather your friends around and play a rock
Speaker 1: is drinking game for every time the Niners defense, according
Speaker 1: to Robert Sala does a fist bump on the sideline
Speaker 1: as his defense is coming off the field after reaking
Speaker 1: total having Sala, you never hear it announced the same
Speaker 1: way twice. I think it's Sala that is one of
Speaker 1: the images you got to be a head coach will
Speaker 1: be the Redskins head coach three weeks from now. He's
Speaker 1: too he's too buff, and he just looks like his
Speaker 1: own as are watching and it I've I've this is
Speaker 1: one thing I've learned over the years. It's not much
Speaker 1: more complicated than they just if Ian and Adam Schefter
Speaker 1: say like, oh, here are the hot coaching canons. That's
Speaker 1: just who they interview. It's the combination of that and
Speaker 1: how they look kind of like do they look good?
Speaker 1: And has Ian and mentioned them that's the key and
Speaker 1: so those two things. Sala's got it. That's an interesting theory.
Speaker 1: But most of these teams are now hiring consulting firms
Speaker 1: to do their coaches or Charlie Castle corn Ferry or
Speaker 1: asked Peter, you know what, on second thought, Mark, it
Speaker 1: wasn't in the private conversation. You didn't say hot, you
Speaker 1: said beautiful, beautiful and there. Well, and I know this
Speaker 1: gets to overplayed too much, but Jimmy g helmet off
Speaker 1: along the sideline, rallying the offensive line. He has gotten
Speaker 1: a little hotter. I'm just gonna be honest. I don't
Speaker 1: know what's happening. He's gotten ver. We've been here for
Speaker 1: like fourteen hours. All right, let's move on. It's a
Speaker 1: good goal, Heyfield, Look getting kJ right up all is
Speaker 1: tipped off of the receiver Hill, You're kJ right is
Speaker 1: right there. He reaches out. The Browns trans are heading
Speaker 1: for the exits, and kJ right he's heading for the
Speaker 1: end zone to kneel down and have his picture taken.
Speaker 1: Four turn overs, three interceptions, one fumbled by these Browns,
Speaker 1: and k J. Wright comes up with a huge takeaway,
Speaker 1: his first pick of the season. All Right, you know,
Speaker 1: Seahawks radio network, with the call now market, it was
Speaker 1: not supposed to be going this way in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: but here we are. Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield's fourth quarter
Speaker 1: interception is third of the game and eleventh of the season,
Speaker 1: a backbreaker for the Browns and a game changer for
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, who wiped away a big first half deficit
Speaker 1: and route to a thirty two to twenty eight win
Speaker 1: in Cleveland, where the Browns are oh and three this year.
Speaker 1: Mark the Seahawks are the one team that can look
Speaker 1: at a twenty to six deficit, which is what they
Speaker 1: faced in this game of the first half, and they
Speaker 1: don't blink. Yeah. I mean, you and I were watching
Speaker 1: this and we said that to ourselves because you never
Speaker 1: felt safe to me that Cleveland jumped out to that lead.
Speaker 1: Their offense I thought early on looked good. Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: was pretty well protected in this game. It was twit
Speaker 1: they jumped and it had twenty points before the first
Speaker 1: quarter was over. They scored eight more the rest of
Speaker 1: the game, and it was just total collapse in the
Speaker 1: sense of not kind of unlike the Bucks offense too,
Speaker 1: where turn you cannot This team cannot overcome incredible mistakes
Speaker 1: against a team like the Seahawks that are playing like
Speaker 1: an NFC title contender right now. And it was the
Speaker 1: three interceptions Chubb had. Nick Chubb, who played it otherwise
Speaker 1: a fantastic game and looks like one of the best
Speaker 1: running backs in the NFL right now had a very
Speaker 1: costly fumble and you know, sandwiched in between those mistakes
Speaker 1: was a blocked punt that turned the tide as well.
Speaker 1: Cleveland just they I when I watched Freddy Kitchens a lot,
Speaker 1: he is getting killed after this game for a series also,
Speaker 1: And I will try to make it and I'll explain
Speaker 1: it and compact fashion. He essentially, Uh, they drove down
Speaker 1: deep against the Seahawks and they went forward on a
Speaker 1: fourth down and something like outside of the red zone.
Speaker 1: We watched that happen and they got it, and then
Speaker 1: they got down deep to fourth and one, and it's like, listen,
Speaker 1: you gotta go for it again. You already went for
Speaker 1: why would you now kick a field goal? And they
Speaker 1: attempted to and this was at a key point in
Speaker 1: the game, and Nick Chubb rolled in for the touchdown
Speaker 1: to cap what was a successful drive. But Freddie Kitchens
Speaker 1: had thrown the challenge flag right before he crossed the
Speaker 1: goal line for a previous play where Jarvis right, Jarvis
Speaker 1: Landry looked like he had been you know, fumbled the
Speaker 1: ball into the end zone essentially, and there was a
Speaker 1: lot of rigmore around that that call was not upheld,
Speaker 1: so the Browns had to go for it again and
Speaker 1: they did not get it, and then they come back.
Speaker 1: No Seattle at that point actually was forced into a
Speaker 1: punch and Cleveland did come back and score the touchdown
Speaker 1: they did. I would say this though the field was
Speaker 1: right now. My point is that Freddy Kitchen should not
Speaker 1: be killed for being aggressive and doing what he did.
Speaker 1: There are times when this offense and it feels like
Speaker 1: it's a coaching thing, just is a little overwhelmed and
Speaker 1: doesn't have a full game plan together. The point I
Speaker 1: was the part of the game I was thinking of,
Speaker 1: Browns are in control of the game. This seems to
Speaker 1: have happened a couple of times now where Cleveland has
Speaker 1: a chance to really put a stamp on a game
Speaker 1: and then things go sideways. They're marching down the field
Speaker 1: late and a half uh up I believe double digits.
Speaker 1: Baker throws an interception uh in the end zone and
Speaker 1: then to compound matters, the defense and lets down in
Speaker 1: Seattle marches all the way down the other way and
Speaker 1: the other direction that scores a touchdown it's just been
Speaker 1: that's the type of stuff that's happening with the Browns
Speaker 1: this year. They just don't They are not executing the
Speaker 1: way they need to execute. And there's two and four
Speaker 1: because it's also the stuff that's been happening to Seattle,
Speaker 1: because there is total team belief. They are as well
Speaker 1: coached as any club in the league right now. And
Speaker 1: I think it's a lesson. And I know everyone wanted
Speaker 1: Cleveland to be six and one at this point. It
Speaker 1: is a lesson against a team that was better prepared,
Speaker 1: has players that don't make mistakes, and Cleveland still learning
Speaker 1: how to play. They've had to deal with the Rams, Niners,
Speaker 1: and Seahawks over the last three weeks, and have the
Speaker 1: Patriots after the bye. They've they nearly beat the Rams,
Speaker 1: they nearly beat one. Today. They lost to a better
Speaker 1: team today. The Seahawks are an NFC title type and
Speaker 1: they lost. They were short three offensive line in the
Speaker 1: c X. But you know what Russell Wilson and m
Speaker 1: VP candidates and good organizations like, do they close they
Speaker 1: get that end of the first half touchdown. The Browns
Speaker 1: took the lead in this game with nine minutes left,
Speaker 1: and what does Wilson do. He goes nine plays, sixty
Speaker 1: four yards touched down. The next time they get the ball,
Speaker 1: it's not over yet either. They get their two first
Speaker 1: downs to say bye Browns. They closed out the game.
Speaker 1: They picked up the interception Mayfield is just like a
Speaker 1: hair bit behind his receiver. Hilliard makes a bad play
Speaker 1: and it gets picked off. And that's just that's just
Speaker 1: what's killing the Browns. It's just these little things. But
Speaker 1: they're not closing. I should mentioned to Baker played through
Speaker 1: a hip injury that I I wouldn't be surprised if
Speaker 1: it knocked him out for a game or two, because
Speaker 1: they got noticeable pain. He's going through the painful process
Speaker 1: of trying to become what Russell Wilson is and he's
Speaker 1: just not there yet. And we talked about on Thursday.
Speaker 1: This was a big game at home and they got
Speaker 1: They need now a really season changing win and maybe
Speaker 1: it's against the Patriots, but right now it is not
Speaker 1: looking good for the Browns. Let us move on third
Speaker 1: down and goal from the five. Bridgewater in the gun,
Speaker 1: three receivers left, one right, Jack Rush for Bridgewater, throws
Speaker 1: back of the end zone, Jared Cook touchdown back of
Speaker 1: the end zone, and that is a huge score by
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints. Cook is Cookie, Zack Stree, Deuce
Speaker 1: McAllister Saints Radio Network. Teddy Bridgewater found Jared Cook. There's
Speaker 1: Jared Cook. Jared Cook making a play four yard score
Speaker 1: early in the fourth coarter of the Saints held on
Speaker 1: to beat the Jackson Jaguars to six. New Orleans is
Speaker 1: now four and oh without Drew Brees West, the Jags
Speaker 1: and Gardner Minshew are the latest to feel the wrath
Speaker 1: of New Orleans swarming. I felt the raf too, because
Speaker 1: I locked up against this team as wearing historic territory.
Speaker 1: Though I am in my own head so bad, I
Speaker 1: feel like I have a good beat on this New
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints offense. Um Teddy sailed a bunch of balls early.
Speaker 1: They were not impressive, but I've I've underrated the defense's
Speaker 1: ability to keep the other team's offense from really cracking
Speaker 1: double figures or doing much of anything. They just play
Speaker 1: so well as a team together. They've been doin it
Speaker 1: ever since Drew Brees went down with the injury. They
Speaker 1: did it again today. This was the first time that
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew really looked like a rookie he was overwhelmed,
Speaker 1: did not complete fifty of his passes. They got the
Speaker 1: ball back with seven minutes to go and a chance
Speaker 1: to tie, and went three and out. Never got the
Speaker 1: ball again. Because the Saints are playing that winning brand
Speaker 1: of football right now? Is Dennis Allen doing better than
Speaker 1: any defensive coordinator? And they're like, I don't know if
Speaker 1: we've said I don't know. I don't know if we've
Speaker 1: said Dennis Allen's name yet. But if you go through
Speaker 1: the game plans of the teams that he has shut
Speaker 1: out and shut down in a row, whether it's Seattle, Dallas, Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: who am I forgetting last week? I mean he has
Speaker 1: one against his opposing offensive coordinator week after week. Dennis Allen.
Speaker 1: Just keep him as a coordinator. I'm not saying you
Speaker 1: didn't need to be a head coach. I mean that's
Speaker 1: that's a great job. He's making a lot of money,
Speaker 1: making a lot of people. I wasn't saw Dennis Allen
Speaker 1: at the combine and he was coming out of the
Speaker 1: men's room as I was going in, and he was
Speaker 1: very nice and held the door for me and couldn't
Speaker 1: have been a nicer gentleman. So I would support him
Speaker 1: as a head coach. Canadidate, Now one of those guys
Speaker 1: who are kind of like, are weird and we'll try
Speaker 1: to like get by you because they don't want to
Speaker 1: touch the handle of the bathroom. No, calm down. He
Speaker 1: handled very well. I was sick with the flu at
Speaker 1: the Combine, Remember how sick I got? And I was
Speaker 1: waiting in the airport and I saw Dwayne Haskins go
Speaker 1: into one of the family stalls, like the single stalls,
Speaker 1: like a family one, and he was in there for
Speaker 1: like twenty five minutes. And I texted Eddie and I
Speaker 1: was like, this guy, I got a weird vibe, I'm
Speaker 1: telling you. And I called it, that's a good story.
Speaker 1: Twenty five minutes. Wait, you camped down flag. I was
Speaker 1: at a restaurant. I was like eating, trying to get
Speaker 1: some soup, and I saw him go there was like
Speaker 1: a mom and kids, and he went into the single bathroom.
Speaker 1: Might have been a medical you might have been an emergency.
Speaker 1: The red flag could range from anything any number of things,
Speaker 1: but none of them good. You've been holding onto that
Speaker 1: story like a pro for a while. Aware dropped the
Speaker 1: bob and rocks sweet and a big spot. You know Mark,
Speaker 1: you and I it's become a little rivalry about the
Speaker 1: belief and failure to believe in Gardner Minshew. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to pile on because it's one game against a
Speaker 1: great defense, but I did think that he's in trouble.
Speaker 1: When I saw the ESPN profile that called him a
Speaker 1: genius this week, I said, Oh, that's gonna jinks him.
Speaker 1: It was a bad game. I mean, okay, but I
Speaker 1: think I look at the rest of the offense around
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew, and I feel like he's done a lot
Speaker 1: with a little. They just don't seem to me to
Speaker 1: have all the parts. Alvin Kamara looked very banged up
Speaker 1: in this game, and he's producing like a guy who's
Speaker 1: banged up. It wouldn't surprise me if they sat him down.
Speaker 1: It seems like a good idea. Any other thoughts on
Speaker 1: this game, gentlemen, I'm gonna quit picking against the Saint.
Speaker 1: Let's move on. High formation, play action, Kirk straight drop backs,
Speaker 1: it fires, step cockdown bless sorry, Bro, Paul Allen Vikings
Speaker 1: Radio Network. Kirk Cousins Stefan Diggs three times. It worked.
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins through four touchdowns overall, three for three for
Speaker 1: three D three. It is one thirty one am yards.
Speaker 1: The Vikings destroyed the Eagles thirty eight to twenty in Minny.
Speaker 1: In Minneapolis, Greg, you have to hand it to the Vikings.
Speaker 1: Two weeks ago they looked like a team on the
Speaker 1: brink of implosion, and after Sunday they look like they
Speaker 1: look like a team that can take out anyone in
Speaker 1: the NFC, especially in their building four and two. We
Speaker 1: asked the question going into this game. This is partly
Speaker 1: the question that got inside of Chris Wesley's head. Do
Speaker 1: the Vikings in mind Kirk Cousins, We said it on Thursday,
Speaker 1: Do the because the Vikings trust Kirk Cousins to go
Speaker 1: over the top of the Eagles over and over, because
Speaker 1: that is so clearly the way to beat them instead
Speaker 1: of trying to run into a brick wall. And you
Speaker 1: know what we found out. The answer is yes, he
Speaker 1: can do it. I mean he got Stefon Diggs almost
Speaker 1: the two hundred yards by the beginning of the second quarter.
Speaker 1: I think Zach Round was the linebacker of the Eagles
Speaker 1: who called Kirk Cousins the weak link of the Minnesota Vikings. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: the weak link in this game was Sydney Jones. You
Speaker 1: don't want to ever just pick on one guy, but
Speaker 1: we do it with Cousins and Sydney Jones. The cornerback
Speaker 1: for the Eagles was just flayed up and down the
Speaker 1: field throughout the game, had some penalties. It was it
Speaker 1: was a disaster. You cannot say with the sound I'm
Speaker 1: going to which one just all of them. I don't
Speaker 1: mean I want you to, but just my mind, it
Speaker 1: was stupid. No Kirk Cousins shout out to Kirk because
Speaker 1: it's the every week Kirk gutie Kirk and uh, he's
Speaker 1: a guy that you could you could hate on Kirk Cousins,
Speaker 1: and I get it, but he is not a guy
Speaker 1: to completely disregard because oh no, this game didn't exist,
Speaker 1: he didn't have an on national TV with everybody watching.
Speaker 1: So it doesn't count that I think this one doesn't.
Speaker 1: That doesn't fall under the classic Kirk Cousins dominant because
Speaker 1: this is against dominant performance, because this was against the
Speaker 1: a good Eagles team, maybe an Eagles team that's not
Speaker 1: quite as good as everything including myself, have thought them
Speaker 1: to be. Mark. I knew entering the season you and
Speaker 1: I were on the same page on this. My mind
Speaker 1: is very confused about this right now, about where Philly
Speaker 1: stands as a team through six weeks. But this has
Speaker 1: been a great bounce back by the whole teams, but
Speaker 1: especially Cousins, who was really under a lot of pressure
Speaker 1: to perform in the last two weeks. And that's exactly
Speaker 1: what treading the Vikings for, just simply not believing in
Speaker 1: a lot of things about them. And I will be
Speaker 1: silent now because this is one about the next week.
Speaker 1: If well, no inspect everybody thinking Kirk Cousins just flat
Speaker 1: out can't play football for something. But I but I
Speaker 1: don't think like I think, at least with the four
Speaker 1: of us, we've come to the conclusion it's not just
Speaker 1: simply a Kirk Cousins thing. When the line was giving
Speaker 1: him constant issues, I think they correctly went and attact
Speaker 1: and Eagles defense and outside of that Jets game, you know,
Speaker 1: minus Sam Donald, which means nothing is giving up about
Speaker 1: twenty seven points a week, and is is not a
Speaker 1: strong defense, and is that I don't see the quick
Speaker 1: fixer how that's going to change. And the Vikings, you know,
Speaker 1: I wonder if they had internal meetings at some point
Speaker 1: to say we need to be more than just Dalvin
Speaker 1: Cook running the ball thirty five times a game, And
Speaker 1: there was maybe that was at the center of that
Speaker 1: entire controversy around the team. Around the team. Two weeks ago,
Speaker 1: Adam Feeland spoke up Stefon Diggs tried to pull an
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown for a moment there and and I guess
Speaker 1: changed his mind. They said, we were really good on
Speaker 1: offense last year. Let us be us and you could
Speaker 1: and you could essentially have Dalvid Cook still be special
Speaker 1: while also keeping our passing game relevant and competent. And
Speaker 1: that's what we've seen. Those things can tear a team
Speaker 1: apart from the inside out, and the opposite has happened here, right,
Speaker 1: And sometimes it just comes down to hitting one play,
Speaker 1: you know, and that just changes it. They hit and
Speaker 1: he hit a nice throat to Digs early. Then there
Speaker 1: was a total busted coverage where he had two guys
Speaker 1: that could have had a fifty yard touched on. He
Speaker 1: makes the right play on that and suddenly you're rolling.
Speaker 1: But the difference between when I was watching these two teams,
Speaker 1: the Eagles offense, every thing they do is hard and contested,
Speaker 1: and Carson Wentz is working really hard for it, and
Speaker 1: the receivers are working hard for and Howard and Sanders
Speaker 1: are working hard and no one's like no, they're not
Speaker 1: that open. You know. I'm used to seeing things be
Speaker 1: a little easier where the scheme is helping out the Eagles,
Speaker 1: and instead it's Carson Wentz needing to play really great
Speaker 1: to not even keep up with the Vikings. And that's
Speaker 1: a problem the the Eagles offense also needs to be.
Speaker 1: It doesn't help the people wondering if Frank did the
Speaker 1: Frank Reich argument where you lose a lot of offensive
Speaker 1: coaching talent and they're offense talking about that is he
Speaker 1: has a good coach. He has a good coach, and
Speaker 1: there's no question about that. But they've never been the
Speaker 1: same offense they need. Really, they really missed Sean Jackson
Speaker 1: just because they don't have anyone that stretches the field.
Speaker 1: And that's a weakness of their roster right now, which
Speaker 1: everyone like me talked up because Aglar is just not
Speaker 1: a guy you can rely on right now, and their
Speaker 1: rookie are are Taga. Whiteside has not earned nice. They're
Speaker 1: also a team. They have two losses that came on
Speaker 1: essentially dropped the passes in the final minute or two.
Speaker 1: I mean, and they're tied for their division lead. They're
Speaker 1: tied for their division lead. Spoiler, They're okay, but they've
Speaker 1: been three and three is disappointing. I think to battle
Speaker 1: out of this too, But but there are They're not
Speaker 1: a dominant looking by the way, hated, hated, hated uh
Speaker 1: late in the second quarter, because I think the game
Speaker 1: kind of got away from after this point. Down um
Speaker 1: I believe was at that point. And there they have
Speaker 1: fourth down, they have a chance to kick a field goal,
Speaker 1: go into the half field, good about themselves. Instead they
Speaker 1: call fake field goal. Jake Elliott throws an interception, uh,
Speaker 1: and it was kind of all downhill from there. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that's why they lost the game, but I thought,
Speaker 1: maybe take those points, you're you're coming back on him
Speaker 1: a little bit. Maybe it's a different outcome. But you
Speaker 1: know what, the Philly special worked in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: This one didn't work. That's the way it goes sometimes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this Vikings team has one of the best home field
Speaker 1: advantages in the NFL. I've already said I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: pick against them all year at home, and they're gonna
Speaker 1: lock him up. No, but they close out the season.
Speaker 1: They close out the season with home games against the Lions, Packers,
Speaker 1: and Bears their division in three of the final four games.
Speaker 1: That is a huge advantage. For its huge advantage, it
Speaker 1: just doesn't lose at home. But also a lot of pressure.
Speaker 1: There's still as much as I just tucked up Cousins,
Speaker 1: those are games that he's gonna have to slay some
Speaker 1: uh some internal mind of dragons speaking of you know what,
Speaker 1: Johnny United would say that the quote is right above
Speaker 1: us as we tape this. I like to talk is cheap.
Speaker 1: Let's go play exactly. And that's what Starn did on
Speaker 1: Sunday at the Meadowlands stopcom for Prescott. See Kelly it
Speaker 1: to his left, Jets with Elliott now motioning to the left.
Speaker 1: I'm Prescott off his back foot. Hey so hey, hey,
Speaker 1: threw it at the feet of what the Jets get
Speaker 1: the stuck on a two point player forty three seconds
Speaker 1: to go. Thank god we get to hear the Great
Speaker 1: Bob was choosing of the Jets radio network Jamal Adams
Speaker 1: perfectly time Blitz fouled up Dak Prescott's two point conversion
Speaker 1: attempt in the final minute clinching to win for the
Speaker 1: German over the Cowboys at the meadow Lands. Sam Donald's
Speaker 1: returned and then everything for the Jets, who looked like
Speaker 1: a real life NFL offense after weeks of an aptitude
Speaker 1: during Donald's about with the mark kissing disease normally suffered
Speaker 1: by teenage boys and girls exactly. Uh, Tony Romo did
Speaker 1: this game with Jim Nance uh, which you know, I
Speaker 1: think Tony romans calling the shots West, you know these days.
Speaker 1: And the chance to not only talk cover game featuring
Speaker 1: his old team, but the quarterback and Donald, which we
Speaker 1: knew from last year that he thinks of special and
Speaker 1: it it all lined up because especially in the first half,
Speaker 1: they cooled off a little bit in the second half, uh,
Speaker 1: or a lot of it, I should say, but Donald
Speaker 1: was light out in from about the midpoint of the
Speaker 1: first quarter through the end of the first half. The
Speaker 1: high point during a twenty one point surge that put
Speaker 1: the Jets ahead twenty one to three and twenty one
Speaker 1: six and a half was a beautiful ninety two yard
Speaker 1: touchdown pass um a gorgeous rainbow where he he bought
Speaker 1: a little bit of time and you see that he
Speaker 1: has such great footwork, and he's such a fundamentally sound
Speaker 1: quarterback and he's only twenty two years old. That's what
Speaker 1: gets you so excited, uh when when you watch him
Speaker 1: and he's feeling right. But he threw a beautiful rainbow
Speaker 1: right into Robby Anderson's hands, who takes it to the house.
Speaker 1: Anderson went over a hundred yards, as you should when
Speaker 1: you have a ninety two yard touchdown. I think Jameson
Speaker 1: Crowder hit a hundred or perhaps ninety nine yards right
Speaker 1: on the nose. Basically, the Jets were back to being
Speaker 1: a real team again, which just tells you, um A,
Speaker 1: how horrible the Jets quarterback situation was without Donald and
Speaker 1: b how promising Donald is as a aspect, and how
Speaker 1: good the defense has been too that they've kept them
Speaker 1: in games if they had a quarterback in this game,
Speaker 1: they did and then they won it. Yeah, we've got
Speaker 1: this quote again, Greg, talk is cheap. Let's go play.
Speaker 1: And I've been calling the Cowboys the most talented roster
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I still believe that, but they're not
Speaker 1: playing to that talent today. They right out their left
Speaker 1: tackle and the right tackle, two of the best tackles
Speaker 1: in the NFL uh their defense same personnel as last year.
Speaker 1: They add Robert Quinn, the Marcus Lawrence not playing nearly
Speaker 1: as well as like coming off a very major surgery
Speaker 1: and Greg you raised these points in August, Guys like
Speaker 1: de Marcus Lawrence and Byron Jones. You can't just expect
Speaker 1: him to miss the entire offseason, come off surgery and
Speaker 1: play at the same Pro Bowl level they did a
Speaker 1: year ago. And they're not playing at They're not disruptive
Speaker 1: this year. I thought that Adam Gates was a huge
Speaker 1: winner today because we got to see someone who was
Speaker 1: able to coach using as Romo mentioned, the entire playbook
Speaker 1: at his disposal with a quarterback and Donald who threw
Speaker 1: the ball great, who knew how he's gonna look coming
Speaker 1: off of this app since it's not an easy like
Speaker 1: illness that he went through and probably is still going
Speaker 1: through to some degree, looked fantastic. And you know, I
Speaker 1: have a childhood friend Peter Acton, who you guys have met,
Speaker 1: who listens to every show and is a level headed
Speaker 1: Cowboys fan who wrote me after and said, I Garrett
Speaker 1: is time for Garrett to go? And how many times
Speaker 1: as he said that in fact, very very infrequently, because
Speaker 1: it's three games in a row against the Saints, Packers
Speaker 1: in this inexcusable situation against the Jets, they're pretty banged up.
Speaker 1: They are, but they have been ill prepared to have
Speaker 1: They have no advantage from the coaching position. Well, and
Speaker 1: good luck in the NFC. I'll say this because it's
Speaker 1: the Jets. Season was so weird that when we were
Speaker 1: all going into Week one, I think we were all
Speaker 1: on the same page that the Jets could be a
Speaker 1: very competitive team, maybe not a Super Bowl winner, but
Speaker 1: a team that could, if things broke the right way,
Speaker 1: win nine or ten games. And they looked like that
Speaker 1: for most of Week one. Donald disappears and they're arguably
Speaker 1: the worst team in football. Now that he's back, with
Speaker 1: a Greg Williams defense that continues to perform him well,
Speaker 1: the Jets are probably a pretty decent team. And I
Speaker 1: think it's no sin against the Jets that with Donald
Speaker 1: to lose when you're that banged up as the Cowboys were,
Speaker 1: because not only were they missing the players we mentioned.
Speaker 1: Uhmari Cooper goes out after one catch for three yards.
Speaker 1: He's not right, and I will give Dak Prescott uh
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys offense. Credit Zeke Elliott really heated up.
Speaker 1: He looked like Zeke in the second half, and they
Speaker 1: were able to score those last two touchdowns and they
Speaker 1: couldn't get the two point conversion to force overtime, but
Speaker 1: they they did put it in a fight. They didn't
Speaker 1: roll over and die at twenty one three. And my
Speaker 1: last thought on this game is that in week one
Speaker 1: and Donald was already feeling of the effects of the motto,
Speaker 1: which you could, um you know, put into his performance
Speaker 1: not being up to par against Buffalo. But one of
Speaker 1: my big disappointments from week one last time we saw
Speaker 1: him was he wasn't able to lead them in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter when they needed a big drive in this game,
Speaker 1: when the Cowboys started their charge and late in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter and they need did some insurance points, Donald
Speaker 1: let him down the field. They got the field goal,
Speaker 1: which ended up being the difference in the two point games.
Speaker 1: So it was a big day of progress for the Jets.
Speaker 1: I think the next step for this offense is I'd
Speaker 1: love to see Levan Bill have a game where he's
Speaker 1: doing the marvelous things that were used to where he's dominated,
Speaker 1: because that's why they signed him for I think the
Speaker 1: line is going to be an issue getting in the way,
Speaker 1: but I think he has the potential to I love
Speaker 1: the game ending though on Jamal Adams blitzing on the
Speaker 1: two point conversion really win because to me, that's Greg
Speaker 1: Williams defense and and Jamal Adams is clearly the leader
Speaker 1: of this team and it's gonna be aggressive. And Greg
Speaker 1: Williams is really good at improving the team he joins
Speaker 1: in year one and that the games don't always hold
Speaker 1: into year three. But man, it's it's just a proven
Speaker 1: track record that in year one they play their ass
Speaker 1: off and they are this year. They are not a
Speaker 1: talent heavy defense, but they are playing pretty well this year.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on for two and to win.
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick gonna go under center two point conversion for the
Speaker 1: ball game. Fitzpatrick takes throws it off, it is muffed.
Speaker 1: The Redskins gonna win this ball game. As they boxed
Speaker 1: the two point attempts, don't even know what they were thinking.
Speaker 1: I think it was gonna be a trick playing now
Speaker 1: the Redskins gonna walk away with their first win of
Speaker 1: the year. To take it pick yet, we'll take it
Speaker 1: Coolie take it. Yes they will take it, Yes they will.
Speaker 1: Larry Michael and Chris Coolie of the Redskins Radio Network
Speaker 1: with the call the Dolphins game, so close to their
Speaker 1: first victory with a helpless some fits magic, but a
Speaker 1: two point conversion failed and allowed the Redskins to escape
Speaker 1: with a seventeen to sixteen win, their first win of
Speaker 1: the season. Mark somebody had to win. Somebody had to win,
Speaker 1: Someone had to win. And you know it's we could.
Speaker 1: I could dig Russian novel style into the twists and
Speaker 1: turns of this game. I don't know if anyone's begging
Speaker 1: for that. If you are, hit me up privately and
Speaker 1: I will send you a personal voice recording. I would
Speaker 1: love to see, uh like five two you know, pages
Speaker 1: of words translated by Pavier and Volshansky, you know into
Speaker 1: English that you wrote. It's possible that may be coming.
Speaker 1: I mean. The thing that that feels like it's no
Speaker 1: longer in the mix for the Dolphins is whatever they
Speaker 1: were planning to do with Josh Rosen this year, or
Speaker 1: whatever they were planning to see, you know, days after
Speaker 1: they announced that he's going to go with them for
Speaker 1: the rest of the year as their starts two quarters. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he and the one matchup concerned for Miami
Speaker 1: every week, but I thought this week, especially Washington's past rush,
Speaker 1: which has been active which gave Tom Brady some fits
Speaker 1: a week ago, quickly dropped Josh Rosen to the map
Speaker 1: five times in this game, and both quarterbacks case Keenum
Speaker 1: and Rosen combined for about a hundred and twenty yards
Speaker 1: passing in the first half plus just got benched right.
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick came in, Well, he got benched because he
Speaker 1: was getting battered left and right and it looked terrible
Speaker 1: through two interceptions. Fitzpatrick came in, and it's not surprising
Speaker 1: he can see the field more quickly than Josh Rosen.
Speaker 1: He goes through his progressions more quickly. He's just the
Speaker 1: veteran guy that quickly brought life to the team and
Speaker 1: brought them back and they had a chance to, you know,
Speaker 1: win the game with the two point conversion. I don't
Speaker 1: have to tell you. They mean the red skin sid
Speaker 1: exactly what they said they were gonna do into Bruce Callahan.
Speaker 1: They ran Adrian Peterson twenty three times for a hundred
Speaker 1: plus yards. It was not an impressive showing at all.
Speaker 1: But they eked out to win against two teams going
Speaker 1: literally nowhere. Right now, that recipe works against the worst
Speaker 1: team in the NFL, I don't know if it's gonna
Speaker 1: work against any other team. I mean, and it only
Speaker 1: worked by what two yards? You know, if they who
Speaker 1: knows if the Dolphins kick that extra point. I'm disappointed
Speaker 1: in the trend of going for two but failing. So
Speaker 1: this is the third time this year that I can
Speaker 1: think of. So you want them to go for two,
Speaker 1: but going for two, but they're all for three this year.
Speaker 1: I think this is the third game this year where
Speaker 1: a coach has tried that to win the game, and
Speaker 1: none of them have worked. And even if he didn't
Speaker 1: drop this pass, it did not look like it was
Speaker 1: going into It's a terrible play called. Terry McLarin is
Speaker 1: the maybe one of the lone bright spots for Washington
Speaker 1: this year for for one in this game and two touchdowns.
Speaker 1: And Adrian Peterson mark you mentioned he went over a
Speaker 1: hundred yards but did not score. I'm pretty sure he's
Speaker 1: just in the league now so he can pass his
Speaker 1: boyhood hero Walter payton Um. The rushing touchdowns all timeless.
Speaker 1: He's three behind right now. And when you go for
Speaker 1: one eighteen on a crappy Redskins team, you don't find
Speaker 1: the end. Zoe I bet he was sneaky, annoyed that
Speaker 1: he can scored today. He's got bills to pay. Is
Speaker 1: certainly all right. So the Redskins get the whim. The
Speaker 1: Dolphins dodge a bullet. Let's face it. They're not looking
Speaker 1: to fall behind the Redskins for the number one overall pick.
Speaker 1: Uh So perhaps two teams won on Sunday. Let's face it,
Speaker 1: and let's move on second down in six pistol formation,
Speaker 1: ingram is the back, Jackson will keep it off the
Speaker 1: fake left STI ten five, Jackson chicking out of a
Speaker 1: one yard line, just shying the Parlon. No that single
Speaker 1: touch down he got in hitting the parlan Jerry Sandusky
Speaker 1: w b A L with the call. Lamar Jackson was
Speaker 1: back in dominant mode on Sunday, running for a career
Speaker 1: high one and fifty two yards. What then a touchdown?
Speaker 1: He threw for two hundred and thirty six yards, and
Speaker 1: he guided the Ravens past the morabund Cincinnati Bengals. Seen
Speaker 1: Greg We talked about it. On Thursday. Lamar was due
Speaker 1: for another banger, and a banger was delivered. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean Lamar is it delight? And maybe right now he's
Speaker 1: a little more fun to watch than he is like
Speaker 1: a dominant top five quarterback, but no one expected him
Speaker 1: to be a dominant top five quarterback right now, Maybe
Speaker 1: he's better in fantasy than he is in reality, because
Speaker 1: Lamar is a league winner right now. If you're if
Speaker 1: you're rolling out Lamar every week and you drafted him
Speaker 1: in the twelfth round, you're doing pretty good in fantasy.
Speaker 1: And for people that didn't watch this game, don't worry
Speaker 1: about the final score or don't worry that they didn't
Speaker 1: quite take advantage of all the opportunities that they had.
Speaker 1: They held the ball for so much of this game,
Speaker 1: and the two Bengals touchdowns came on a kick return
Speaker 1: to open the game. That's seven and then a garbage
Speaker 1: time touchdown with one minute left. That's seven more. The
Speaker 1: Ravens defense played really well. The Ravens offense held the
Speaker 1: ball pretty much the whole game, and it was dominant,
Speaker 1: and it's what you expect when a team that's not
Speaker 1: a you know, a dormat plays the Bengals these days.
Speaker 1: They went easy, so we learned nothing. I think we
Speaker 1: learned the Ravens are two games up in the division,
Speaker 1: and even though the Browns have the win over them,
Speaker 1: if the Ravens can be the type of team that
Speaker 1: takes care of business against bad teams and that their
Speaker 1: defense continues to get a little better, they're in good
Speaker 1: shape right now. I think we also learned that it's
Speaker 1: not a matter of if Lamar Jackson is going to
Speaker 1: eventually break Michael Vick's single game rushing record for a
Speaker 1: quarterback of a hundred seventy three yards, it's when he
Speaker 1: could done it today. He didn't run much at the
Speaker 1: very end of the game, but he is an absolute
Speaker 1: uh monster running the football. He has three career one
Speaker 1: hundred yard games, tied with whos Billy kill Kilmer for
Speaker 1: most by a quarterback in his first two seasons. That
Speaker 1: Billy Billy fast huose. That's what the West is definitely
Speaker 1: looking for. The heat seeking trivia questions at two o
Speaker 1: four am and Jackson's first one hundred yard game came
Speaker 1: last November when he first played the Bengals. I was
Speaker 1: just thinking about speaking of that. We're past two am
Speaker 1: now here at the Big Top. This is definitely a
Speaker 1: record itself for the longest anyone's ever worked at this building.
Speaker 1: I think we can put ourselves in the record books
Speaker 1: for that. Lamar did set a record too, By the way,
Speaker 1: no one else had ever run for one fifty and
Speaker 1: past for two. D Van Taylor said that he was
Speaker 1: It's like the rarest athlete or one of them that
Speaker 1: they've ever seen on a football field. They were like,
Speaker 1: what's like, what can you really come up with? Because
Speaker 1: a lot of the plays he ran we're not called.
Speaker 1: Of course, they were scrambles on third and longs and
Speaker 1: that was kind of key to their Another Fantasy winner
Speaker 1: is Mark Andrews. If you got him at tight end,
Speaker 1: I think he is perfect for this. Remember remember old
Speaker 1: and the old Fantasy preview uh from on High. Mr
Speaker 1: Evans Silva laughed his little head off at the Mark
Speaker 1: Andrews Lamar Jackson double sandwich. I was suggested eat it silver.
Speaker 1: Credit what you say at two in the morning, Greg
Speaker 1: for your talenting ability. Silva had some logic behind it,
Speaker 1: but sometimes the players just really good, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: are in that same preview. I had to defend Christian
Speaker 1: McCaffrey at some point, and I also said the draft.
Speaker 1: Jordan reed, So you know they can't all be winners, alright,
Speaker 1: So Lamar Jackson undoubtedly a star in the rise of quarterback.
Speaker 1: Oh now, oh look it's a falling star tree to
Speaker 1: the right, to the left. On this third of nine,
Speaker 1: chuck and snap five fan pressure bar. You look at
Speaker 1: her a place to go down. He throws the ball.
Speaker 1: The ball will be intercepted by Chus the seventh Dave Logan,
Speaker 1: Broncos Radio Network with the call. Sunday, October two thousand, nineteen,
Speaker 1: the end of the Marcus Mariotta era in Nashville. The
Speaker 1: fifth year passer struggled mightily against the Broncos, failing to
Speaker 1: lead the Titoons past midfield before giving way to Ryan Tannehill,
Speaker 1: who fared no better. The Fagio's Broncos get the shutout win.
Speaker 1: What was the thirteen zip? Was sixteen zip? Hey, Wes,
Speaker 1: you seemed almost pleasurably disturbed by the game as you
Speaker 1: watched him. This game was exactly what we all thought
Speaker 1: it would be. By the by the beginning of the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, I think Marcus Mariotta had led an offense
Speaker 1: that had eight total yards. He had a single digit
Speaker 1: passer rating through the first two interceptions of the year
Speaker 1: when he finally stopped taking sacks. The Broncos at that
Speaker 1: point where one for twelve on third downs and the
Speaker 1: only touchdown in the game came from a guy who
Speaker 1: lives with his parents from West That was Philip Lindsay's
Speaker 1: a good player. But there were some takeaways in this game.
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariotta and this offensive line or a combination that
Speaker 1: just has run its course. We don't need to see
Speaker 1: it anymore. It's not working. They went they had seven
Speaker 1: points in about a seven quarter stretch. Going back to
Speaker 1: last week, Ryan Tannehill came in and took even more
Speaker 1: sex than Marcus Mariotta. He had four sacks. They had
Speaker 1: a chance to finally break the end zone and um
Speaker 1: another fourth down debacle. The Titans just are broken on offense.
Speaker 1: And I don't know how much of it on their
Speaker 1: first year offensive coordinator Arthur Smith, but it does seem
Speaker 1: like Mike Vrabel when he was looking for an offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: wanted one who's willing to play games that never go
Speaker 1: over twenty points? Did How did Tannehill look? Doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like he got the offense sparked by this. I mean,
Speaker 1: he had more than double the yardage, and he moved
Speaker 1: the chains a little bit better. But you never know
Speaker 1: in a game like that, how much of it is
Speaker 1: that the defense is taking his foot off the gas
Speaker 1: pedal a little bit. They're up comfortably at that point.
Speaker 1: I think he came in and moved the sticks, but
Speaker 1: I don't. After the game, they talked about and Mike
Speaker 1: Rabel didn't sound like he's ready to make a change,
Speaker 1: and nobody knows what they want to do yet they're gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, they gave the old let us watch the
Speaker 1: film thing and we'll talk about it and come up
Speaker 1: with an answer once you once you make the in
Speaker 1: game change, whether or not he starts next week, it
Speaker 1: just seems like what everyone is saying here that this
Speaker 1: feels like potentially the beginning of the end, because now
Speaker 1: he's what happened today. Let you know that he's used
Speaker 1: up all of his rope. He's not the same quarterback.
Speaker 1: I mean, believe it or not, when Marcus Mariotta first
Speaker 1: entered the league, he was fun to watch, and the
Speaker 1: Titans offense was fairly fun to watch at that point,
Speaker 1: and he's regressed along with his past protection key back.
Speaker 1: No matter who you put a quarterback for the Titans,
Speaker 1: it's gonna look like Marcus Mariotta. We should give we
Speaker 1: should give Vic fangio Um some credit here. His defense
Speaker 1: gets a shut out, had a nice, you know game
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles last week. Well, I'm just gonna put
Speaker 1: this out there. They play on Thursday night. They play
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs, who have lost two in a row,
Speaker 1: probably the Broncos. You know, they're an underdog in that game.
Speaker 1: But should they win that game, they are one game
Speaker 1: back in the a f C West. No, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying they have coming up on Thursday, and
Speaker 1: they're a little worried. Immanuel sanders hirt. Their offense doesn't
Speaker 1: look very good, but they have something to play for
Speaker 1: Thursday night and then try to figure things out. Well,
Speaker 1: let's give them credit for a defense. They've made two
Speaker 1: huge changes that have paid off in the last two weeks.
Speaker 1: They moved Alexander Johnson into uh the starting lineup at
Speaker 1: inside linebacker. He's given them a lot more athletic ability,
Speaker 1: more speed, uh more playmaking ability. That has worked great.
Speaker 1: He got the game ball last week, had nine tackles
Speaker 1: today in another sack and a half, and then they
Speaker 1: moved Mike Purcell into the starting lineup at nose tackle.
Speaker 1: Shelby Harris moved outside the defensive end where he made
Speaker 1: so many plays last year before they moved him to
Speaker 1: nose tack and now he's making plays again. DeMarcus Walker,
Speaker 1: one of the reserves, had two sacks to days. This
Speaker 1: is a different defense than they were earlier in the years.
Speaker 1: I mean that Jacksonville Jaguars game that they lost and
Speaker 1: in glorious fashion, and it had a lot to do
Speaker 1: with the whole sort of full team breakdown. They were
Speaker 1: dominant in the first half of that game defensively, so
Speaker 1: you could go back couple bad offensive absolutely really Chargers
Speaker 1: game they played well. I do want everyone though out there,
Speaker 1: if you're just a game pass head and you're gonna
Speaker 1: have crank through the game. Um, when you're watching this game,
Speaker 1: just think this is the West Bowl. This is football
Speaker 1: as approved by Titans, Broncos, Fir Sir DeShawn Hamilton's It's
Speaker 1: all happenings correct. This is the type of brand that's correct,
Speaker 1: this narrative. The only reason I had this game was
Speaker 1: because the other three you guys messed up the draft order.
Speaker 1: It wasn't because I wanted it. We didn't mess up
Speaker 1: the draft order. Were draft last and teams bad back
Speaker 1: up round up with two games, and I watched West
Speaker 1: the entire uh you know, from what wire to wire
Speaker 1: this game simply endure Broncos tight. It seemed to go
Speaker 1: on football. I mean, good, good Broncos defense. But I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know that Titan's offense is broken, so who
Speaker 1: who know? Who knows? All right, let's keep on rolling.
Speaker 1: Third down in five and the Cardinal thirty Murray takes
Speaker 1: play action. He's rolling right, and he's looking to Ronnie's
Speaker 1: on the near side, and he's close to the first down.
Speaker 1: As he stepped out, they spotted right at the thirty
Speaker 1: five yard line. It looks like enough to move the
Speaker 1: chains and win the game. With a minute thirty eight
Speaker 1: to go, Kyler Murray Kyler Murray Dave passed Cardinals Radio
Speaker 1: network with the call Kai Murray Stroke, you're all growns up,
Speaker 1: and you're all growings up, and you're all grows up,
Speaker 1: and you're all growns up. Maybe the number one Tick
Speaker 1: did his finest day as a pro with a third
Speaker 1: down run. They picked up a first down and clinched
Speaker 1: a thirty four to thirty three win for the Cardinals
Speaker 1: over the Falcons. The game would have been tied at
Speaker 1: that moment had Matt Ryan not missed an extra point
Speaker 1: on Atlanta's previous possession, Greg Uh, this was a great
Speaker 1: QB duel between a former m v P and a
Speaker 1: rookie with potential to win an m v P himself
Speaker 1: one day. All right, about is entertaining a game can
Speaker 1: be with two fun quarterback performances. That doesn't really mean
Speaker 1: much at all. And the Cardinals and the Falcons are
Speaker 1: kind of prone to playing these sort of games right
Speaker 1: now because the Falcons, as I said last week, they
Speaker 1: will give your offense rhythm. If you're out of rhythm,
Speaker 1: just show up against Dan Quinn's team and start the
Speaker 1: game off with a fifty seven year drive field goal,
Speaker 1: nine year drive, touchdown, seventy nine year drive, touchdown, seventy
Speaker 1: one year drive, field goal, fifty nine year drive to
Speaker 1: These are the Arizona Cardinals they're talking about. It's not
Speaker 1: exactly the Rams, but I give Cliff Kingsbury and Murray credit.
Speaker 1: The receiver group is so thin. I mean, it's demere
Speaker 1: bird in Surefield. You know, behind Larry Fitzgerald, you're just
Speaker 1: working off Murray and play calls and David Johnson, and
Speaker 1: you're making it work against a veteran team in Atlanta
Speaker 1: that's been together for a long time, and it's just
Speaker 1: completely imploding on deep. My one takeaway watching this was
Speaker 1: that every time I looked up Kyler Murray was finding
Speaker 1: In one case, it was David Johnson, in another it
Speaker 1: was Max Williams. Guys who were wide open with no
Speaker 1: one within twenty or thirty yards of them, and one
Speaker 1: of them led to a thirty yard gain, another twenty
Speaker 1: and they led to scoring drives. And the Falcons defense
Speaker 1: feels like one of the first this season that has
Speaker 1: essentially just stopped listening to coaching with whatever is happening.
Speaker 1: They just feel broken. They look like they've given up.
Speaker 1: They look they were completely schooled today and that this
Speaker 1: was dan Quinn's calling card and and for a while
Speaker 1: it worked. And I remember talking about how the Falcons
Speaker 1: would be a team that would draft these guys and
Speaker 1: developed them so quickly, and there was a vision and
Speaker 1: an identity and it's all been whisked away. Dan Quinn
Speaker 1: probably won't survive this unless there's some type of great turnaround,
Speaker 1: and undoubtedly he'll get a defensive coordinating coordinator job next year,
Speaker 1: maybe even gets his another head coaching job right at
Speaker 1: the gate. I don't think we've seen the last of
Speaker 1: Dan quinn um as a relevant head coach who has success.
Speaker 1: But you do get the feeling that this is one
Speaker 1: of those situations where things have kind of run their course,
Speaker 1: uh for Quinn in Atlanta, and we'll see it'll be
Speaker 1: very wrong about that, but things just do not seem
Speaker 1: to be going in the right direction and it doesn't
Speaker 1: seem unlikely to change. This two thousand nineteen football season,
Speaker 1: his percentage points worse because the Falcons are wasting Matt Ryan.
Speaker 1: He is playing at such a high level and if
Speaker 1: anyone stars out there, if any of your friends tell
Speaker 1: you Matt Ryan isn't playing well, he's no good, it's
Speaker 1: the biggest giveaway. Yet. This person has no idea what
Speaker 1: they're talking about. They're not watching games, they are ignorant.
Speaker 1: Feel free to tell them all that, yeah, we should,
Speaker 1: we should point as bad people. Ryan had. Yeah, these
Speaker 1: people get new friends watch football games six inner incompletions.
Speaker 1: Today he dropped back thirty six times six and completions
Speaker 1: four touchdowns fifty six yards and led them again on
Speaker 1: what proved to be a fruitless but furious second half
Speaker 1: come back. So they've at least made their games a
Speaker 1: little fun to watch. Ultrue depressing this team a good
Speaker 1: turn of phrase, Greg get out to in the morning, parent,
Speaker 1: fruitless and furious in a big spot. Talk is cheap.
Speaker 1: Let's go play, all right, there's one more game to
Speaker 1: talk about tonight. We won't be doing it. It's going
Speaker 1: to be the Electric Dynamic. We is even a little
Speaker 1: nervous about it because the chemistry is so off the hook.
Speaker 1: It is Lakisha Jackson Westling, and yes, you know him
Speaker 1: as Kyle the boy Wonder from Kicking and Screaming, the
Speaker 1: somewhat well received two thousand and five comedy starring Will
Speaker 1: Ferrell as a soccer coats. And also he's trying to
Speaker 1: get his wife back because he just wants to be
Speaker 1: with his kids. I never saw the movie on. In
Speaker 1: that film, a lot of us, you know, dense, rich subplots. Anyway,
Speaker 1: you got Westling, a different Westling, you got Bergman. They're
Speaker 1: talking Sunday night football, So let's throw it to them.
Speaker 1: Rivers under center with one look, two tights to the
Speaker 1: left up and they got it to the churn five
Speaker 1: and there's touchdown. Factship touchdown that will ring on the
Speaker 1: ball with the bat first pass recovered by the detail
Speaker 1: the pockets the left a touchdown and as as Philip
Speaker 1: Rivers was trying to flare pass it out to Ingram,
Speaker 1: he went rail over his head and Bush picked it
Speaker 1: up and ran into a touchdown. That was a great play.
Speaker 1: That is Bill hill Grove and touch Ilkin from Steelers
Speaker 1: Radio Network with the call. That was Steelers rookie linebacker
Speaker 1: Devin Bush on a nine yard fumble recovery for a
Speaker 1: touchdown to put the first points on the board for
Speaker 1: the Steelers in the seventeen win over the Chargers. In
Speaker 1: l A, I'm Lakisha Wesley and a ka the paramore.
Speaker 1: I have Jeremy Bergman to my left and Steve Manny
Speaker 1: behind the glass. What's happening? Thank you for having me
Speaker 1: tonight up? What up? Welcome. We're basically filling in for
Speaker 1: the heroes right now. They had what like a sixteen
Speaker 1: hour day. It was a long day. Uh, they were
Speaker 1: whining a little bit about it. Erica tam Posey going
Speaker 1: strong past four am for thirty am, still during the
Speaker 1: and that was when the football game was still going on.
Speaker 1: So if they would have did this correct, you watched
Speaker 1: the whole thing. The other guys I don't know about.
Speaker 1: Lakisha was in London this morning, right and you has
Speaker 1: got off a plane and came right to the office yesterday,
Speaker 1: got back here yesterday evening and just kind of slept
Speaker 1: all night and just back at it again. That's how
Speaker 1: much is about work, folks, that she cares about work
Speaker 1: that much. All right, Well, let's just get right into
Speaker 1: the Steelers. It was Devin Bush. You had a good,
Speaker 1: huge game, Jeremy first quarter, Devon Bush was on the
Speaker 1: receiving end of two turnovers from Philip Rivers. Philip Rivers
Speaker 1: had a rough game, but it really went downhill right
Speaker 1: from the start when Rivers you heard it on the
Speaker 1: on the replay through that backward lateral toward Melvin Gordon
Speaker 1: in the flat and it went five yards behind the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, pushed Bush picked it up, uh and
Speaker 1: ran it back in. And then Rivers on the next
Speaker 1: possession throws a pick that was tipped at the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage and Bushes on the receiving end of that.
Speaker 1: The Steelers go down and score right after it's fourteen
Speaker 1: nothing in the first quarter. Uh. You know, there are
Speaker 1: few Chargers fans in sight the stadiums going wild with
Speaker 1: terrible towels and you can just see it, you know,
Speaker 1: snowballing from there. The Chargers went down eventually, uh twenty
Speaker 1: four nothing and then you know they couldn't come back
Speaker 1: from that. Yeah, it looks like Devin Bush was everywhere, everywhere,
Speaker 1: everywhere until he got hurt in the third quarter or
Speaker 1: in the first half and they had to take him
Speaker 1: out of it, but he came back. He's a defensive
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year candidate. He's had a really strong
Speaker 1: start to the year. He's not the only player that's
Speaker 1: playing really well on Pittsburgh's defense right now, which has
Speaker 1: had to pick up the offense as they've gone through
Speaker 1: the injuries. T J. Watts played really well. Cam Hayward
Speaker 1: the same. Uh. But Devin Bush making a name for
Speaker 1: himself on national television and uh part of the reason
Speaker 1: why the Steelers got their second win of the year
Speaker 1: this h tonight. Oh Yeah. Another Steelers player who had
Speaker 1: a big game was James Connor running back. They basically
Speaker 1: gave him the ball majority of the game and just
Speaker 1: kind of health the offense on his back. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: was something we'd seen in week four when the Steelers
Speaker 1: UH came back to Pittsburgh, oh and three Mason Rudolph
Speaker 1: making his first start. They said, we're taking the ball
Speaker 1: out of Rudolph's hands, We're putting it in Connor and
Speaker 1: Jlen Samuel's hands. Same same thing happened this week with
Speaker 1: Devlin Hodges, a undrafted rookie free agent out of Sanford,
Speaker 1: making his first start because Rudolph is still in concussion
Speaker 1: protocol or something like that. It's it was James Conner
Speaker 1: from the get go. On the Steelers first scoring drive,
Speaker 1: Connor touched the ball on all seven of the Steelers
Speaker 1: plays and then he caught the twelve yard catch and
Speaker 1: run uh to end that drive. He became the first
Speaker 1: Steeler since nine three to Lager receiving touchdown, rushing touchdown,
Speaker 1: and at least ninety plus yards from scrimmage in the
Speaker 1: first half. And that was indicative of just how the
Speaker 1: Steelers wanted to go about this game. Take it out
Speaker 1: of Hodges hand, tell to tell the rookie do what
Speaker 1: you gotta do. Don't throw the ball too far. He
Speaker 1: only threw the ball past ten yards past the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage four times, and one of those passes intercepted.
Speaker 1: None were completed. Um, so it was the running backs
Speaker 1: game tonight until he got hurt, and then it was
Speaker 1: Benny Snell's game. But the Steelers came out with the
Speaker 1: win regardless. So how did you think did for like
Speaker 1: his first NFL start? You know, Hodges did what he
Speaker 1: had to do, and the Steelers told him, like I said,
Speaker 1: you know, don't throw the ball too far. It didn't
Speaker 1: work when he did try to test, uh, test the
Speaker 1: ball downfield. Juju was not a factor. Uh, Moncrief was
Speaker 1: not a factor. Neither was Deonte Johnson. The game really
Speaker 1: went through James Connor, uh between the line of scrimmage
Speaker 1: and ten yards past the line of scrimmage. So I
Speaker 1: think he made smart decisions, only one interception, a few
Speaker 1: mistakes and uh, you know the duck caller, and you
Speaker 1: took the words out of my mouth. All the duck
Speaker 1: had a quack of a game? What about it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He won? What is on duck calling champions? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: think Alabama State champion they played a clip on the
Speaker 1: broadcast of him making the duck call. I thought he
Speaker 1: should have tried at the line of scrimmage. Maybe that
Speaker 1: would have, you know, thrown the Charges off, but he
Speaker 1: didn't need it. So that's how I got the nickname
Speaker 1: Duck Dynasty. If you, I will say on a day
Speaker 1: that Gardner Minshew maybe came down to earth a bit
Speaker 1: Minshew mania at home, kind of taken a dip into
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville waters. I think that Hodges is taking, uh
Speaker 1: leaping Minshew in the power rankings for like Southern swag
Speaker 1: of like a quarterback that you didn't really hear of
Speaker 1: before the season. I think Hodges is now one Minshew
Speaker 1: one A has that real southern, real Southern surprising. In
Speaker 1: the postgame interview with Tafoya, real real shock at the
Speaker 1: Southern accent and now on the Charger's side, Philip Rivers, Yeah,
Speaker 1: did not look like a Hall of Fame quarterback. Like
Speaker 1: I kept saying, like, what the heck is going on?
Speaker 1: I I don't know. I think this is the two
Speaker 1: weeks with Philip Rivers kind of throwing the game away
Speaker 1: in the first quarter. The Charges went down fourteen nothing
Speaker 1: because of Philip Rivers is uh poor decisions. Listen, it's
Speaker 1: not all his fault. He's gonna go into the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame probably, But you know, the offensive line, You're
Speaker 1: missing Pouncey, he's on I R. You have to move
Speaker 1: Dan Foene to center. Sam Tevy is still at right tackle.
Speaker 1: Russell o'cung hasn't played at left tackle all year. The
Speaker 1: offensive line is a mess, Anthony Lynn centered after the game.
Speaker 1: He said that even with the running game and the
Speaker 1: passing game, it's mostly the blocking up front that is
Speaker 1: not giving Rivers, Gordon Eckler, these guys times to make plays. Uh.
Speaker 1: And you know, Rivers came back in the second half
Speaker 1: and the Chargers scored seventeen points to close out the
Speaker 1: game in the fourth quarter with him hitting uh Hunter, Henry,
Speaker 1: Mike Williams and Keenan Allen. But it wasn't enough. And
Speaker 1: you know, Rivers did look a little shook. They asked, uh,
Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn after the game, did you even think about
Speaker 1: going to Tyrod Taylor? And Lynn shut it down. I mean,
Speaker 1: Rivers is not the entire problem here, but there's something
Speaker 1: wrong with this offense and it starts with the decision
Speaker 1: making at quarterback. Right now. And I have to say
Speaker 1: this because Tony Dutchy Duchy said this during the broadcast
Speaker 1: at halftime, like it's inexcusable for the Charges to play
Speaker 1: like that, Like that's how bad the first half was.
Speaker 1: It's inexcusable to go down to devil and Hodges. No offense,
Speaker 1: the devil and Hodges. But you you know this offense
Speaker 1: is they're broadcasting what they want to do. You know,
Speaker 1: they want to throw the ball short, they want to
Speaker 1: run the ball, and uh even on the defensive side
Speaker 1: of the ball, Like you can't let them in it.
Speaker 1: You know, Pittsburgh couldn't make mistakes and the Chargers. All
Speaker 1: they needed to do was not make mistakes, and the
Speaker 1: Chargers committed you know, these three turnovers, two of which
Speaker 1: came in the first four minutes of the game. And
Speaker 1: that's how you let bad teams win in your home,
Speaker 1: even though your home is being invaded by a bunch
Speaker 1: of Pittsburgh Ians. I don't know what you call him.
Speaker 1: Definitely was a Steelers home game there and then, like
Speaker 1: the Chargers didn't even get any points until the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter in what was it, Hunter Henry scored like two
Speaker 1: touchdowns too, a little too late. Yeah, Hunter Henry was
Speaker 1: inactive for most of the year and then uh came
Speaker 1: back today. It was That's the one of the main
Speaker 1: positives that came out of this one for the Chargers. UM.
Speaker 1: Eight catches a hundred yards uh, too late, scores, unstoppable
Speaker 1: in the red zone. UM. Philip Rivers was really strong
Speaker 1: between ten and twenty yards past the line of scrimmage,
Speaker 1: and Hunter Henry was on the receiving end of a
Speaker 1: lot of those plays. But it was too little, too late. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, I it's good to have Henry going forward,
Speaker 1: in addition to Mike Williams, who looked a little banged
Speaker 1: up as well, and Keenan Allen. UM. But you know,
Speaker 1: you also saw the return of Melvin Gordon for the
Speaker 1: second straight game where he's had a really rough go
Speaker 1: of it coming off that hold out ten touches yards again.
Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn said after the game that the offensive line
Speaker 1: wasn't opening up lanes for him. But you know, the
Speaker 1: Chargers were really strong with Austin Ekeler as the starter
Speaker 1: catching passes out of the backfield run of the ball. Uh.
Speaker 1: In the early goings of the season. You bring Gordon
Speaker 1: back into the equation and suddenly the offensive broke. The
Speaker 1: offense is broken. You know. Part of that is again
Speaker 1: the offensive line, part of it is not. The trade
Speaker 1: deadline is October. Make of that what you will see
Speaker 1: what happens. So final score for them Steelers um, Steelers
Speaker 1: tied for both of them are third place in the
Speaker 1: AFC North. In AFC West, that's right, the Chargers are
Speaker 1: two and four with the Broncos who got their second win.
Speaker 1: But you know, we we thought that the a f
Speaker 1: C West was a division where it's the Chargers and
Speaker 1: the Chiefs going a game for game and with the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: you know, losing too straight. This is a real missed
Speaker 1: opportunity for the Chargers to actually make a run at it.
Speaker 1: Uh in the a f C North. Suddenly, because the Browns, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Baker Mayfield can throw to people in his uniform,
Speaker 1: Browns are two and four. The Steelers are also two
Speaker 1: and four, and uh, you know, I think this is
Speaker 1: gonna be an interesting race in the wild card where
Speaker 1: it's not there's not a lot of deep teams in
Speaker 1: the a f C UH, so maybe the Steelers can
Speaker 1: make a run of it. They have a biased so
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph can get healthy. Uh, and then right after
Speaker 1: that they get three straight home games, the first of
Speaker 1: which is the Dolphins. And so you might be looking
Speaker 1: at three and four going into week nine, right, well,
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Speaker 1: and uh organized this whole venture. Uh. And we are
Speaker 1: hernally grateful uh to Mark as well. So we get
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Speaker 1: being our producer uh and friend um did a lot
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Speaker 1: All right, so I'm opening the bottle right now. I
Speaker 1: was not kidding. How much was this We don't know. Well,
Speaker 1: I think it's roughly okay. So we'll be back on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: as we said, usually do a Tuesday show, But we
Speaker 1: gotta get on a plane. We are gonna be jet lagged. Uh.
Speaker 1: Ricky's going on another vacation, which seems weird, but we'll
Speaker 1: give her a pass because she was so great during
Speaker 1: this trip. Thank you everybody for listening. Thank you to
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