Speaker 1: Welcome to Guys We Fund the Anti Slushing Pod. I'm
Speaker 1: Christina hud Things, but I'm curin sister, So you actual
Speaker 1: ways bread bring us so slubbing you of your horny
Speaker 1: and your shame? Hey you was what? Yes? Okay talk
Speaker 1: about Hey, fucker's how you doing? Welcome to another episode
Speaker 1: of Guys We Fucked. It's the Anti slush I mean podcast,
Speaker 1: brought to you exclusively by Luminary. I'm Karin Fisher um
Speaker 1: Christina Hutchinson in the news today. This is from Vice.
Speaker 1: The title of the article is being allowed woman is
Speaker 1: great for your health. Okay, I'm interested burying your real
Speaker 1: feelings in an intimate relationship in order to maintain it
Speaker 1: feels like you've been put in charge of keeping a
Speaker 1: very boring, very painful secret You're telling me vice called
Speaker 1: called self silencing. This behavioral pattern includes things like consistently
Speaker 1: prioritizing a partner's needs at the expense of one's own.
Speaker 1: M m, it sounds fun. Or declining to express us
Speaker 1: negative emotions in order to appease a partner again does
Speaker 1: sound that bad. It can seem like the right thing
Speaker 1: to do in the moment, but an increasing amount of
Speaker 1: research is showing that women who bottle up their emotions
Speaker 1: are at increased risk for a laundry list of physical
Speaker 1: and mental health ailments when compared to their loudmouth peers.
Speaker 1: Studies conducted over the last few decades have already linked
Speaker 1: women's self silencing to irrit a bowel syndrome, got that depression,
Speaker 1: increased sensitivity to rejection, oh boy, and then even increased
Speaker 1: risk of death. I know the ladder in a law
Speaker 1: longitudinal study that whatever has observed married women over a
Speaker 1: ten year span and pegged their rate of mortality as
Speaker 1: four times higher than they're more expressive peers. Now, new
Speaker 1: research by scientists at the University of Pittsburgh's psychiatry department
Speaker 1: tied self silencing to increased arterial arterial plaque build up
Speaker 1: let's heart attack. This build up build up a woman's
Speaker 1: risk of having a stroke or experiencing other cardiovascular problems.
Speaker 1: According to a press release, the study, which will be
Speaker 1: presented to the North American Menopause Society Sounds Like a
Speaker 1: Party on Thursday, looked at four perimenopausal and post menopausal
Speaker 1: women and determined that the ones who reported self silencing
Speaker 1: behaviors had increased odds of plaque compared to women who
Speaker 1: did not report engaging in them. The studies lead author
Speaker 1: pointed to the increased public interest in women's women's experiences
Speaker 1: in intimate relationships, like on Guys We Fucked. I made
Speaker 1: added that in as relevant context for the study, while
Speaker 1: it's sample size as small. These findings give more support
Speaker 1: to the larger body of research on self silencing, suggesting
Speaker 1: that saying what's on your mind isn't just about being
Speaker 1: a hashtag gal boss. In all likelihood, it's literally better
Speaker 1: for your mental and physical well being. It's worth noting
Speaker 1: the research that has linked self silencing the domestic abuse
Speaker 1: be an emotional or physical, but self silencing can also
Speaker 1: be as simple as declining to tell your partner they're
Speaker 1: a cute nickname for you actually hurts your feelings. It's
Speaker 1: hard to buck the societal conditioning that point that paints
Speaker 1: women is crazy, unstable, and dramatic for you know, feeling
Speaker 1: and externalizing their emotions. For women in relationships, prioritizing yourself
Speaker 1: and engaging in open, honest communication can literally be life
Speaker 1: or death. Thanks for writing that, Peace, Katie Way. Now
Speaker 1: we can reference your article when we're trying to say
Speaker 1: our opinions or you just express them because you deserve it.
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Speaker 1: Can love overcome a soft dick? Is the question asked
Speaker 1: in this subject line Straight to the point. I have
Speaker 1: been with my guy for six years. When we first met,
Speaker 1: he was speedballing, shooting heroin and cocaine or single and available. Um.
Speaker 1: After four to five months, he got completely clean and
Speaker 1: has been for the last five years. With a mix
Speaker 1: of that and him entering mid thirties, his sex drive
Speaker 1: does not exist much anymore. Are I don't know what
Speaker 1: getting off heroin and cocaine because I dated someone who
Speaker 1: was off heroin and he fucked like no one's business. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and some guys get harder with age anyway. UM, With
Speaker 1: a mix of that and his entering his mid thirties,
Speaker 1: his sex strife does not exist much anymore. Our first
Speaker 1: two years were very explorative and passionate. I even got
Speaker 1: to try slapping him in bed when he was high.
Speaker 1: He does not care for it. Sober okay, but he
Speaker 1: has greatly closed off since we will have great sex
Speaker 1: probably once a month and maybe one to two attempts between.
Speaker 1: From walking around naked costumes, just grabbing his dick, sexy massages, etcetera.
Speaker 1: I've tried everything to seduce him. It is mostly a
Speaker 1: numbers game. At least twice a day, I try something
Speaker 1: small to see if I get a response. I usually
Speaker 1: get an awkward laugh and and not right now, I
Speaker 1: try not to push the subject because no means no.
Speaker 1: My self confidence is just struggling. I'm starting to get
Speaker 1: bored and master of masturbating all the time. Um, I
Speaker 1: almost did something really stupid with a co worker, but
Speaker 1: puking up all the tequila stopped that. He shows me
Speaker 1: love by fixing things around the house or cooking dinner.
Speaker 1: We have both helped each other grow in many areas
Speaker 1: of our life. I really want to explore my sex, suality,
Speaker 1: and feel desired for but what are my options besides
Speaker 1: me developing female hysteria. I don't think we need to
Speaker 1: run right there. Uh And we talked two months ago
Speaker 1: after the puking tequila. I realized I needed to get
Speaker 1: it together good. I'm glad you said that because I
Speaker 1: was going to Uh and since we had sex three times,
Speaker 1: once where he tied me up and once he spanked
Speaker 1: me with a crop progress, I am just being too thirsty. No,
Speaker 1: you have a healthy sex trap. Um well, I mean
Speaker 1: I don't. I think bothering someone two times a day
Speaker 1: for sex is a little much, But is it bothering
Speaker 1: in that? Like you just like flash and nipple and
Speaker 1: that's one of the bothering She she said, she's trying
Speaker 1: to instigate sexual stuff two times a day, and I
Speaker 1: think she's getting desperate, so it is turning into kind
Speaker 1: of hysteria. She's not incorrect. Um, I've been there on
Speaker 1: my friend. I Also, I'm not sure how old she is,
Speaker 1: if she's the same age. My favorite part is at
Speaker 1: the end, she said, also as someone with small tits,
Speaker 1: thick thighs covered in acne, third year old Corin Fisher
Speaker 1: is my patron saint. If that's what I'm putting out
Speaker 1: into the world. People say things and they don't and
Speaker 1: I'm like, you really don't realize how it comes off.
Speaker 1: This is not if I read that on paper, that
Speaker 1: sounds so bad. And I was like, I'm an attractive person. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and she is too. Also, I was like, you're gonna
Speaker 1: need to you need a rebrand. Yeah, um, tender boy
Speaker 1: any who Jesus six years Well, you got to talk
Speaker 1: to him about it. They did, they did. I mean,
Speaker 1: but but that it's getting bad to the point where
Speaker 1: you need to be sexual with somebody. Yeah, I have
Speaker 1: to see this it After we talked two months ago.
Speaker 1: They three times, Um only fucked three times? Right, right? Right? Right? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean they were kind of like tied up and stuff.
Speaker 1: I mean, it could be like as you. To me,
Speaker 1: the main thing I see is that he was a
Speaker 1: different person when he was using, and so you fell
Speaker 1: in love with using him, and you are and you
Speaker 1: aren't now over the years you're bored by regular him,
Speaker 1: which I honestly get. I mean, I date a lot
Speaker 1: of addicts because they're fucking exciting, but it's unsustainable. It's unhealthy.
Speaker 1: It's unhealthy for them. It's not fair to hold them
Speaker 1: to the standards of the you know the same. So
Speaker 1: it seems like to me, he needs therapy. I think,
Speaker 1: because um, it seems like he it seems like he's not.
Speaker 1: He might not even know who the real hit him
Speaker 1: is outside of the drugs. That's just kind of like
Speaker 1: some pieces that I put together from the start of
Speaker 1: this email. And it might turn out, especially if you're
Speaker 1: still drinking and party. I don't know. If you're younger,
Speaker 1: it seems like you might be, but like you know, people,
Speaker 1: as you were older, you might just realize like we're
Speaker 1: not sexually compatible anymore. And I think when you're young,
Speaker 1: like everyone can kind of you can kind of just
Speaker 1: like phone it in because everyone when they're young, is
Speaker 1: like sexual enough, and then as you get older, that's
Speaker 1: like your real sustainable sexuality because I actually am getting
Speaker 1: more sexual. But again, as men age, they get less
Speaker 1: sexual statistically and women get more sexual. Um. And so
Speaker 1: if you were already uneven, it's the uneven in this
Speaker 1: and might just be aserbated yea, like showing much more now. Um,
Speaker 1: six years is a long time. It's a good run.
Speaker 1: I don't want to tell you to wrap it up
Speaker 1: right now, but it's like if you're constantly feeling bored
Speaker 1: and like literally having to do tricks around the house,
Speaker 1: uh to get his attention, Like something needs to be
Speaker 1: ignited in there. And also, I mean he possibly might
Speaker 1: need some freedom to explore, like who am I outside
Speaker 1: of you and outside of cocaine and heroin because when
Speaker 1: he got clean, yeah, he never had that time, you know,
Speaker 1: some self discovery. Maybe he's got to eat, pray, love. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so suggest that. Yeah, I think that's a very giving
Speaker 1: thing for you to do, if you were willing to
Speaker 1: do that. But I think it's a very loving thing. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it seems like you both you both have things that
Speaker 1: you need to work on separately, and that happens a
Speaker 1: lot of times in these long term relationships, especially when
Speaker 1: they're starting in your twenties. And it's not to say
Speaker 1: that you can't be together forever. Maybe just I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it's just people don't think of taking a break.
Speaker 1: They don't think of it and think it would be
Speaker 1: really helpful. Just because the relationship doesn't last forever doesn't
Speaker 1: mean it was a failure, doesn't mean you wasted your time.
Speaker 1: Just just keep that in mind. It's I feel like
Speaker 1: people put a lot of pressure on themselves and I'm
Speaker 1: talking about myself that something needs the last forever, and
Speaker 1: if it doesn't, you're all failures, especially when there's like
Speaker 1: a huge thing that happens. Because you guys are still friends,
Speaker 1: you still get along. I'm sure you're still comfortable together,
Speaker 1: like you still you're I'm sure you're probably codependent. Honestly,
Speaker 1: it's very hard to not be if you're living together,
Speaker 1: um and for six years and you know, in that
Speaker 1: age range. Um. But yeah, it doesn't mean that has
Speaker 1: to be over. But just like something, something's got to change,
Speaker 1: and like having a talk once and then like you know,
Speaker 1: strapping someone up and sucking them one time, like that's
Speaker 1: not going to do it. That's a that's a bandage
Speaker 1: for a huge wound. Yeah. Yeah, you gotta get to
Speaker 1: the wound. If you don't hear what hurt you, you'll
Speaker 1: blade on people who didn't cut you. Anonymous quote. Really,
Speaker 1: I have no idea who quoted it. I just know
Speaker 1: that I that nine podcast Want after nine? All right,
Speaker 1: So we've been talking about Christina and getting Christina a
Speaker 1: date who is suitable. Have we done it yet? Um? Sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm wasting time as I'm looking for this email that
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's okay, I'll hear it's down here. It
Speaker 1: was a little what did you have to say? Well,
Speaker 1: I just I feel like, um, I'm finally in a
Speaker 1: space where because I'm I'm not having people involved in
Speaker 1: my life that shouldn't be heavily involved and immersed in
Speaker 1: a we woven with mine. I'm like, I cut that out,
Speaker 1: Like I took care of that, and uh, there was
Speaker 1: some sad Obviously it's gonna be sadness. That's the way
Speaker 1: life works when you do that. But now I'm like
Speaker 1: over that hump and I'm like I'm like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel good, Like you know, I'm still a little like
Speaker 1: miss him, but like um or even whatever, just even
Speaker 1: I miss having somebody that I trust enough to have
Speaker 1: sex with, to be honest, because I just clean slate
Speaker 1: because it could also be like I mean, like the
Speaker 1: attic behavior with people too un But I've been I've
Speaker 1: been really I've been rallying myself like, um, Like I
Speaker 1: was telling you an incident with a friend that I
Speaker 1: was in the hospital with them for a while and
Speaker 1: then I had, you know, I had to like get
Speaker 1: up the next morning and do this pant and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know what, like I'm just going about my day
Speaker 1: when when it's something I don't want to do, I'm
Speaker 1: really good at procrastinating or finding a way out of
Speaker 1: it or something. And I've I've turned that way of
Speaker 1: thinking around and I'm actually just doing it and that's
Speaker 1: actually giving me more to motivation to just be a
Speaker 1: more responsible person, like I I feel like I finally,
Speaker 1: I'm I always beat myself up about a lot of stuff,
Speaker 1: and one of them is that I never get enough
Speaker 1: stuff done or I don't cross enough things off of
Speaker 1: my to do list in a given day. And it's
Speaker 1: been it's been an interesting, um period of just figuring
Speaker 1: out what works best for me and um and being
Speaker 1: honest with myself. And one thing I've keep doing is
Speaker 1: I check in with myself because I never asked myself
Speaker 1: how I feel about things or whatever. And now that
Speaker 1: I like cut people out, I'm like, oh, I have
Speaker 1: time to sit with myself and it's very enjoyable. I
Speaker 1: really love being like. I really like where I'm at.
Speaker 1: I'm very happy, I'm very I'm very content. Um. And
Speaker 1: I think I was so scared of not having a
Speaker 1: crush at any given time that I was just scared
Speaker 1: to be with my own thoughts. But I've been with
Speaker 1: my own having a crush. That's great. You have so
Speaker 1: much time to get shipped done. I've been getting so
Speaker 1: much shipped done and I feel really good about it.
Speaker 1: And the stuff I'm getting done are projects that I
Speaker 1: really give a shit about and uh, and that challenge
Speaker 1: my creativity and my intelligence and my my my, you know,
Speaker 1: my joke riding ability, all that, all that ship I'm
Speaker 1: really getting lost in that. It's it's fun and I'm
Speaker 1: not I don't think I'm using it in an addictive
Speaker 1: way of like that I would use men. So I
Speaker 1: feel really good. I feel like very balanced. But even
Speaker 1: if you're using work, it's better than using man always always,
Speaker 1: But I'm still giving myself enough time to like chill
Speaker 1: and relax. I feel like I feel like I've struck
Speaker 1: an evenness that feels very good. So do we not
Speaker 1: want to do it? No? No, we definitely want to
Speaker 1: do this. I was saying, are you prepping me? Like?
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying? No? No, No. What I mean
Speaker 1: by that is, I'm not I understand that it's very
Speaker 1: comfortable to live without a crush. So I and hopefully
Speaker 1: what that means is if say I like one of
Speaker 1: these people, I'm not going to like put them on
Speaker 1: this pedestal and be addicted to them. I do. I
Speaker 1: really don't see that happening because I'm being very mindful
Speaker 1: lately and I enjoy it. It's like mindful eating, but
Speaker 1: mindful crushing. Yeah, exactly. Okay, So I'm not gonna give
Speaker 1: you the names. I think I'm just gonna call them
Speaker 1: what I have two that I like, Okay, based on photo,
Speaker 1: and I'm not showing you the photos. That's fine. I
Speaker 1: don't care however you want to do it, because especially
Speaker 1: because the listeners can't just see it. Um, let me see. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so this one one person, this is contestant number contestant
Speaker 1: number one. Uh, we actually he this person listens to
Speaker 1: the podcast. Um, he's emailed us. Uh, only certainly knows
Speaker 1: he's emailed us. The email he sent. I don't remember
Speaker 1: the specific email. I can tell by the title that
Speaker 1: it's not It wasn't anything that I would be like
Speaker 1: red flag, you know, because I did. I did go.
Speaker 1: I gotta look at that fucking email. Yeah okay, And
Speaker 1: he said that share some helpful advice in the response
Speaker 1: when we responded to that, which he's since employed with
Speaker 1: astounding results. So I like that he listens to women,
Speaker 1: and he's when he says I want to get better,
Speaker 1: he's not just saying it, he's really doing. My God,
Speaker 1: that's a great I forget people can have these qualities.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you're doing this. Yes, he said, I
Speaker 1: really love the insights you had in my personal experience,
Speaker 1: and ever since hearing them, a part of me has
Speaker 1: honestly wished I could talk to you more. Me. Well,
Speaker 1: it's to us, but but yes to you. Okay, Well
Speaker 1: that's good, I'll take it. Yeah. Um. He works for
Speaker 1: um A solar energy company in Brooklyn. That's cool, it's helpful,
Speaker 1: it's smarty pants um. He likes to He likes to
Speaker 1: make curry with his new instant pot. You don't have
Speaker 1: to eat curry, but I like the fact that he cooks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: cooking is great. You can make other things in an
Speaker 1: instant pot. Don't worry. I know Christina does not get
Speaker 1: a big fan of curry, but don't worry about that, girl.
Speaker 1: I'll eat the curry. I'm a big fan of curry.
Speaker 1: I love a coconut curry for you. He can cook me.
Speaker 1: And also, a coconut curry is not bad. The thing
Speaker 1: is like, when you say curry, I think people think
Speaker 1: of the really strong curries. All curry does not have
Speaker 1: that curry smell like a coconut curry. I actually had
Speaker 1: an Australian and Australian restaurant too. Like a coconut curry
Speaker 1: is soft, and you know, it's like a little hug. Um.
Speaker 1: Let's see. Uh oh, this is good. I did stand
Speaker 1: up for years before realizing I wasn't actually enjoying it anymore,
Speaker 1: and have felt great since quitting. That's honestly, that's better
Speaker 1: than someone who has never done stand up because when
Speaker 1: we now know this guy is never going to do
Speaker 1: stand Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's really good. But he'll
Speaker 1: appreciate it and I'll understand it. His self awareness to
Speaker 1: know when to get out of the game. Um. Uh.
Speaker 1: He does film photography. Um, he's attached some picks, but
Speaker 1: we'll show those to you later. Um and uh. He
Speaker 1: was in a film called stand Up, Comic Comment Comment
Speaker 1: not comic Um, which is a a lay educational film
Speaker 1: made by NASA called Space School Musical that sounds like
Speaker 1: weird and fun. I like that he brought up NASA.
Speaker 1: I do have a soft spot for for space exploration,
Speaker 1: and I think that's fun because I know you like
Speaker 1: smart guys, but you tend to like people who like
Speaker 1: talk like they're smart. And then I actually listened to
Speaker 1: what they're saying, and I go, oh, they're actually fucking idiots.
Speaker 1: If you want to trick somebody and they're thinking you're smart,
Speaker 1: talk to me because I'll be listening and I'll go,
Speaker 1: I see why someone can think that this person is
Speaker 1: more but they're actually like pretty dumb. Um. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so I liked that. Uh handsome, I'm yeah, they're both handsome.
Speaker 1: I checked that out. And the handsome in a way
Speaker 1: that you will respond to like particularly these both people
Speaker 1: I took into account. One thing that I don't care
Speaker 1: as much about that you care about is a well
Speaker 1: dressed man. Oh boy, I love a handsome well dress
Speaker 1: to me, that makes me think you might be a homosexual.
Speaker 1: So both these people dressed like they definitely at least
Speaker 1: have been in the gay bar before. You know that,
Speaker 1: and I know you like that, So I did take
Speaker 1: that into account. Thank you so far? Yeah, these are
Speaker 1: these are neither neither people I like, neither of them.
Speaker 1: Would I be interested in them both? I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: that visually and like basically the email, that you'll be
Speaker 1: interested in them. I mean, I can't, you know. I
Speaker 1: obviously I haven't heard them like speaking stuff yet or
Speaker 1: their demeanor. And then but also, um, I did take
Speaker 1: into account selfishly, like could I spend a lot of
Speaker 1: time with us? Absolutely, because you if I dated them,
Speaker 1: you would have to so that and um, and then
Speaker 1: he really had me here when he said, also I
Speaker 1: really love eating pussy. Oh you angel? So that's that.
Speaker 1: He's great. He said, I'm single, I'm employed, I'm reasonably successful.
Speaker 1: I'm not an asshole and I live in n y C. Also,
Speaker 1: I really love eating pussy. I like that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: want to know what he looks like. No, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to show you. I'll make judgments and I don't
Speaker 1: want to do that. Yeah, I want you to just
Speaker 1: show up. He has a good name though, I like
Speaker 1: his name. And he said, uh, but ugh about me,
Speaker 1: I'd like to get to learn more about you, which
Speaker 1: is the sentence. I don't think you've ever heard from
Speaker 1: anyone out of my ears. I think Christine that compute.
Speaker 1: No one ever asked me about me. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: you seem to You seem to like someone who really
Speaker 1: doesn't take um themselves too seriously, which happens to be
Speaker 1: my favorite. Quality and a human. And the fact that
Speaker 1: you can said quality and a human like that's like
Speaker 1: the way you speak, you would say that. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and this person thanks for emailing you. Yeah, yeah, you're
Speaker 1: not off with that. Yeah, I'm excited for that one. Um.
Speaker 1: And then uh, number two is he wrote this one
Speaker 1: directly to me and he spelled my name right, so
Speaker 1: a thousand points right out of the gates. Um. Oh no,
Speaker 1: this is he didn't write it directly. It was it
Speaker 1: was the girl wrote for him. But he knows Okay,
Speaker 1: he knows. This guy, I think he doesn't listen because
Speaker 1: that's that makes that that I don't know how I
Speaker 1: feel about that, um, but I think guys are different
Speaker 1: than women because women who listened like the you know
Speaker 1: you you kind of a lot of times the female
Speaker 1: listeners when they meet us, they'll treat us like we're
Speaker 1: a little like I don't know. It feels a little
Speaker 1: not unearned, but it just makes me uncomfortable when people
Speaker 1: are like, oh my, like not Fanny, because I think
Speaker 1: it's really sweet and I love it, but like for
Speaker 1: a dating situation, I don't want to power dynamic there,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't seem like no, that guy definitely, I
Speaker 1: don't think what he didn't reak any fan um and
Speaker 1: just in a dating dynamic, I wouldn't enjoy that. But
Speaker 1: in a regular dynamic, I think it's sweet and nice.
Speaker 1: I would say that that guy that we just read
Speaker 1: contestant number one, UM, visually, I think that he's they're
Speaker 1: both cute. I think that guy is more your type
Speaker 1: for just a variety of reasons. But both dressed really well.
Speaker 1: Um cool, and let's say, uh, this guy's this guy
Speaker 1: could be yeah, no, no, you're you're I think you
Speaker 1: like both of them. Um. This guy even he's been
Speaker 1: friends with this girl for over fourteen years. Um, they've
Speaker 1: been and since they went to Pratt, which is like
Speaker 1: basically it's very similar to s v A. UM where
Speaker 1: I went and his dorm was right across the hall
Speaker 1: from this girl and they were instant friends. I love that.
Speaker 1: I love like a long term platonic female friendship. I
Speaker 1: think that makes that really like speaks to someone who
Speaker 1: is in touch with their emotions. Um, she said, I
Speaker 1: really can't say enough about why he's more than decent.
Speaker 1: I also love that if she's obviously willing to set
Speaker 1: him up, that means like there's no funny stuff, there's
Speaker 1: no I mean on her end. I mean obviously he
Speaker 1: could be secretly in love with her. We don't know
Speaker 1: he as somebody and you know this as somebody with
Speaker 1: a lot of straight guy friends. Like if you're not
Speaker 1: into each other or not into each other, yeah you're
Speaker 1: just not. Me and Justin Perez were literally never funck
Speaker 1: each other. Yeah. Um. He grew up in Connecticut. He
Speaker 1: has two little sisters that he has strong friendships with
Speaker 1: and his mom is a fucking cool, strong woman. Um,
Speaker 1: he's going to be third. He's thirty, turning thirty two
Speaker 1: this month. He's a leader, so he's gonna ask to
Speaker 1: the other. I don't know, but he can't be I can't.
Speaker 1: I have to. Yeah, I don't know stage, but definitely
Speaker 1: looks around the same age. Um. Uh, he's my best
Speaker 1: looking male friend and we've never hooked up. Thank you
Speaker 1: for clarifying that. I know a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: think women and men can have real friendships, but I
Speaker 1: think in the artistic community it's definitely a foreshortgeable thing. Again,
Speaker 1: I like this person because he has strong female friendships
Speaker 1: in his life, really good dress, are very handsome. Um,
Speaker 1: photographs beautifully, which is you know, it's hard to do.
Speaker 1: I think that's like you need to be kind of
Speaker 1: like in touch. He seems like he's in touch with
Speaker 1: his feminine side. Um, comfortable with it. And he's in
Speaker 1: the art world, which I just think is like that's helpful,
Speaker 1: mean and what what art? What is his art? I
Speaker 1: think I think it's painting here are down there? Um, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's a plus. He's he's not he not he's not
Speaker 1: a comedian, but he has his own like NYC crowd, Like,
Speaker 1: he has his own set of people, so like you
Speaker 1: wouldn't have to like be his people. And I think
Speaker 1: that's good because you can go to his people, he
Speaker 1: can go to your people, but like you have your
Speaker 1: own people, so he's not gonna be like leeching off you. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It says he's more of a relationship guy, but has
Speaker 1: never really found anyone that has a fully appreciated him
Speaker 1: for the amazing person that he is. He's had his
Speaker 1: heartbroken a few times. Yes, again a sensitive dude, which
Speaker 1: good for you, would be a nightmare for me. He
Speaker 1: hasn't been in a serious relationship in a while and
Speaker 1: hasn't even dated in the past few months. Um. But
Speaker 1: she he has been talked to about this and he
Speaker 1: is absolutely down down for it. Um and uh, he's employed.
Speaker 1: He's a working artist and he also just started his
Speaker 1: own clothing company. That was I thought that was interesting. Yeah, baby,
Speaker 1: take initiative. Yeah he and he really he really had.
Speaker 1: He's such fucking good style. He's like a legit. She said.
Speaker 1: He's a sweet dude and she can talk to him
Speaker 1: for hours, which is where to find yeah, you do.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh man, this is this is great. Um.
Speaker 1: He lives um in Brooklyn and Aloft. That nice. He
Speaker 1: does have a roommate, which they brought out, and I said,
Speaker 1: Christina is not gonna mind. She has her own place.
Speaker 1: It's only one person. Yeah. Never, I never care about roommates.
Speaker 1: It's New York City and it's one. It's like, it's
Speaker 1: like fifty that's true. I guess, I guess if you
Speaker 1: have like two additional roommates. Like, all right, he loves animals,
Speaker 1: but it is allergic to cats. He has tett Yeah,
Speaker 1: he has tattoos. He likes to ride bikes, he loves
Speaker 1: to travel, he's an excellent shape, he's an avid reader,
Speaker 1: he's a great dancer, and just the best laugh and smile.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Sounds wonderful. Yes, and there's some photos,
Speaker 1: but he's just really cool. Um. And she also adds
Speaker 1: my best friend dated him in college and confirms he's
Speaker 1: couldn't bet. Oh that's a that's great to know. Oh
Speaker 1: my god. Yeah, I really liked both of these choices. Wow,
Speaker 1: they sound really wonderful. Yeah, because for me, it was
Speaker 1: more like no offense. Anyone else who was submitted, but
Speaker 1: for me, like it was like a bunch of definite nose.
Speaker 1: And then these two people after you know, Emily and
Speaker 1: I looked through it together. Um, and she has a
Speaker 1: good eye as well. I looked through a couple and
Speaker 1: then I was like no to a couple and then
Speaker 1: I was like these two I really like and it
Speaker 1: was also not it was about like yeah, true like
Speaker 1: compatibility and then also trying to break out of bad
Speaker 1: habits was one that I was looking for. Yeah, this, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm very excited. I'll get so I'll give you dates
Speaker 1: all fare that I'm free. We'll have to set up
Speaker 1: because I kind of I want to talk this out
Speaker 1: really quick though. I kind of like the idea because
Speaker 1: we're talking in this the interview that you're about to hear, Guys,
Speaker 1: it's really great interview. Um about how I moved very
Speaker 1: slowly because it takes me a second to be comfortable
Speaker 1: with that with a person sexually, or even with a
Speaker 1: long term partner, to do something different sexually takes me
Speaker 1: a long It's a long journey to get there because
Speaker 1: I know my own pace. And um, I kind of
Speaker 1: was thinking, I'm like, I like the idea, like the
Speaker 1: going on a date. I haven't done that in a
Speaker 1: really long time. But I like the idea of having
Speaker 1: like a time limit, you know what I mean, just
Speaker 1: in case, because the worst case scenario is you don't
Speaker 1: like the person, in is a time limit, and the
Speaker 1: best cases you like the person, but you gotta go.
Speaker 1: Oh and then you get to be excited to see
Speaker 1: the what's the time in ninety minutes? Two hours? I
Speaker 1: think ninety minutes? It's common length. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: but not a yeah, do you want me to pick
Speaker 1: where you're going? I don't know that they'll have him pick. Okay,
Speaker 1: oh that's good. Yes, yes, Then I get an idea
Speaker 1: of what and I like when the guys I mean,
Speaker 1: I have opinions, but I with restaurants. I love going
Speaker 1: to new places, so yeah, they have to pick. I
Speaker 1: think in both because I also tell like it gives
Speaker 1: you a little sense of their style, yeah, and and
Speaker 1: and their taste. Yeah I like that. And just because
Speaker 1: you can be so pleasantly surprised or so unpleasantly. I
Speaker 1: remember my favorite fun buddy of all time. He picked
Speaker 1: this place that was like so fucking awesome for our
Speaker 1: first time. It was like it was more of a
Speaker 1: drinks thing, but like, uh like drinks and top us
Speaker 1: but like that sounds obnoxious, but it wasn't actious at all.
Speaker 1: It was like dope. And then I was that sounds
Speaker 1: of perfect dat actually, like I complimented him on it
Speaker 1: and he was like, oh my god. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got like some recommendations. But even the thought that
Speaker 1: he was concerned enough to ask, like other people, where
Speaker 1: should I take this person? I was like, that's really nice.
Speaker 1: Like it was almost like he was embarrassed that he
Speaker 1: didn't pick it all himself, and I was like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you incorporate you you you incrude recruited help because you
Speaker 1: needed it and yeah, and it's like so it's like
Speaker 1: if you didn't recruit help, if you just got it
Speaker 1: off your brain that needs you take people there all
Speaker 1: the time. And if you didn't ask a friend, you
Speaker 1: would have asked Google. Like asking Google is still getting help,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's like less help that knows you
Speaker 1: less good exactly. Um, but yeah, that's exciting. Wow. I
Speaker 1: was very happy with both of those people. Very cool
Speaker 1: because I think we should do both day if we can,
Speaker 1: depending on my time. In the same week. Yeah, I agree, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you and you also like you want to get
Speaker 1: it and like and then you know if one either
Speaker 1: you can continue to date both people you know, or
Speaker 1: you can not leave either, or you can then just
Speaker 1: let someone else go and be free. Yeah, whatever happens
Speaker 1: is going to happen. All this exciting and I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm at a really good I don't know, I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm in a really good place mentally with
Speaker 1: all this stuff. I think, regardless, it will just be
Speaker 1: kind of nice if to have like positive experiences or
Speaker 1: and and experiences with men who are different than Yeah,
Speaker 1: like the last person I was seeing, Like, I was like,
Speaker 1: this is not my person, but I was like, it
Speaker 1: was nice to interact for a little bit with someone
Speaker 1: who is a lot different than my normal type. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And even yeah, even if it doesn't work out, it
Speaker 1: doesn't mean it's not a really valuable experience. The trouble is,
Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't really get horny. Wait, the
Speaker 1: person I'm thinking about, I don't know if she was
Speaker 1: great insanely great sex. Oh no, that person I'm in
Speaker 1: love with. No, no, the one who came in Oh no,
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, no, no, no, no no, no, no no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the last person I was seeing, not
Speaker 1: my exploit. Oh see ye yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
Speaker 1: So that I was like, that's like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: corn guy was exactly my type. Yeah okay, I was
Speaker 1: like old and loves drugs and pussy. I'll set you
Speaker 1: up next week with a bunch of eight year old herointic.
Speaker 1: Are you a divorce dad who really phones it on? Now?
Speaker 1: On the childcare? Could you give a ship if you
Speaker 1: see your kids or not? Have you procreated but don't
Speaker 1: know when their birthday is? Current's available? Zaddie Zandy boy?
Speaker 1: How are you? Oh, it's been a real depression. Fifteen
Speaker 1: hours of sleep a day, I've achieved nothing. Um, but
Speaker 1: I well, maybe your bodies you gotta chill. That's an
Speaker 1: excuse that others have given me. And I go, no,
Speaker 1: I mean I just because you never do that, That's
Speaker 1: why I say that. Yeah, but it's depression. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I'm like sleeping to the point where
Speaker 1: I'm getting a headache because I'm dehydrated. I mean, I
Speaker 1: just like I I It's to the point where I've
Speaker 1: had to start setting meetings in the morning so that
Speaker 1: I get up to do something to get me out
Speaker 1: of bed, Like there was something at like three pm
Speaker 1: the other day that I almost was late to because
Speaker 1: I could not get out of bed sleep at like
Speaker 1: three Yeah. No, no, it wasn't like I was. I
Speaker 1: had gotten more than enough sleep. I like my body
Speaker 1: is fully like lethargic. I have like no motivation. I've
Speaker 1: canceled like so many, like I've canceled like five shows
Speaker 1: and I and I said, like, I've canceled five shows
Speaker 1: since Carl died, and I haven't in my whole career.
Speaker 1: I don't think canceled five shows. I just never do that.
Speaker 1: Truly have no interest in doing anything, including stand up,
Speaker 1: which almost never happens. I didn't when you get on
Speaker 1: stage and you're glad you did it, it it is one
Speaker 1: of those things. While I'm there, I'm enjoying it, but
Speaker 1: afterwards I feel no, no, no better, which is which
Speaker 1: I always usually feel better. Like I was, I was,
Speaker 1: I was kind of like I was really like dreading
Speaker 1: doing the gig. Get Lovety Live on Thursday, pass past
Speaker 1: Thursday with Justin Silver, not for any specific reason. I
Speaker 1: like the club, I like Justin, I like Maddie. He
Speaker 1: was also on the show. Um, I just truly like
Speaker 1: had no will to live. And I'm not talking about
Speaker 1: I'm suicidal. That's a very different for me. No will
Speaker 1: to live in suicidal are very different. I've never felt suicidal.
Speaker 1: I felt I feel no will to live. You know, honestly,
Speaker 1: this is a pretty bad depression. It's I haven't had
Speaker 1: a depression like this since. I mean, the James depression
Speaker 1: was a little different the Frank depression. It's not as
Speaker 1: intense as the Frank depression. It's somewhere in between those.
Speaker 1: The James one was like also like a little bit
Speaker 1: it needed to happen, so it was a little therapeutic. Um,
Speaker 1: even though it was fucking sad. Is this some more
Speaker 1: melancholy depression? Like? Um, it's just like I truly have
Speaker 1: no like for me, I always have motivation, um, and
Speaker 1: like achieving things is always like an inspiration to me,
Speaker 1: And like I truly have no I just want to
Speaker 1: sit around. I don't care if I miss things. I
Speaker 1: don't care. You don't you think there's a reason or
Speaker 1: is it just a passing face? Like you know it's
Speaker 1: because Carl died. Yeah, I mean that's why. It's like
Speaker 1: I don't really, it's like the diet has changed drastically,
Speaker 1: and I know that can really affect mood. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I started eating car I mean I went back and
Speaker 1: because I was like I had gotten so thin and
Speaker 1: like my butt was deflating. So I just started eating
Speaker 1: whatever I want. But I'm eating so little that it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Um. Like I had taco bell yesterday that
Speaker 1: made me happy for like five minutes and then and
Speaker 1: I saw I've been trying to do things like and
Speaker 1: seeing shows is actually the most helpful thing I've found,
Speaker 1: so like I'll stay and watch people's comedy sets. I
Speaker 1: went and saw what the fund did I saw? If
Speaker 1: I thought I saw something like a concert, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I can't even remember. My mind is so and that's
Speaker 1: that's what depression is. Something I saw The Joker last night?
Speaker 1: How was it? I want to see it? I'm actually
Speaker 1: went home and wrote like the whole thing about it
Speaker 1: that I want to try to put out, but like, um,
Speaker 1: and if not, I'll just talk about it on here
Speaker 1: because I'm like, this is also my publishing company. But like, uh,
Speaker 1: I was so confused because so many people were like
Speaker 1: it's terrible all the things about inciting violence. So I
Speaker 1: was like, what the funk am I going to see
Speaker 1: on this screen? And I mean the guy who got
Speaker 1: But essentially it's like the the beginnings of the Joker
Speaker 1: and how he became who he is and because he
Speaker 1: got bullied to made fun of. Yeah, but I mean, like,
Speaker 1: I have not a comedian, nothing. Nothing on that screen
Speaker 1: was was more intense than a million other movies. I'm
Speaker 1: saving Private Ryan or some shoot nothing. And I mean,
Speaker 1: I I'm not big into all comic book movies, but
Speaker 1: I have I've seen every Batman movie in every X
Speaker 1: Man movie, um, because those are the two things that like,
Speaker 1: I really like feel for. Obviously, a Batman is very
Speaker 1: like Gotham City based, and I like, I like the story,
Speaker 1: I like the villains. And then X Men. We all
Speaker 1: know I talk about the X Men all the time.
Speaker 1: I love it. It's, you know, story of the underdogs
Speaker 1: gaining power just so smart. Um, but uh, it's a
Speaker 1: It's a brilliant movie. What Keen Phoenix deserves a fucking
Speaker 1: Academy Award insane And I actually was like troubled that
Speaker 1: so many of my peers had called it a bad movie.
Speaker 1: I'm like, just because something bothers you or instigates you,
Speaker 1: or offends you or makes you feel uncomfortable does not
Speaker 1: make the art bad. And I'm like, really really sick
Speaker 1: of bad being synonymous with I don't like this. That's
Speaker 1: not the same thing. I think people are so uncomfortable
Speaker 1: with questioning their own morals and beliefs that anything that
Speaker 1: that gives way to them questioning that, Like, because when
Speaker 1: you're offended by something, what that causes you to do
Speaker 1: is that causes you to go inside of yourself and
Speaker 1: why does this bother me? What are my value? What
Speaker 1: the fund? Because I get offended, I talk. I try
Speaker 1: and say this as much as I can, but stand
Speaker 1: up comedians will say, ship, that offends the ship out
Speaker 1: of me. But I just you sit in it. That's it.
Speaker 1: You're not supposed to take that and go you should be,
Speaker 1: but no, it's honestly, it's a part of art that
Speaker 1: I really enjoy. If a comic can offend me, that
Speaker 1: one is a strong feat And then too, it's like, wow,
Speaker 1: good for you, And you don't have to do anything
Speaker 1: with that. You just have a conversation with yourself about it,
Speaker 1: Like you don't have to be a big deal. It's
Speaker 1: just like I mean, it's like I don't, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't like ballet. But I went to The Nutcracker
Speaker 1: and I realized they're really good at that, just not
Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, I know you're good at it. I
Speaker 1: can tell you're doing it. Well. Yeah, there's no one.
Speaker 1: There's no one, and I mean there's no one that
Speaker 1: could see this movie and say it wasn't a good movie.
Speaker 1: I really yet I haven't seen any bad reviews from
Speaker 1: but really can't. And then it makes me question these
Speaker 1: people that I'm friends with, and then I follow and
Speaker 1: I'm like, do you are you just talking out of
Speaker 1: your own asshole? They might be because you know how
Speaker 1: people are, like, man, I like this band and everyone
Speaker 1: likes his band, So funk this band? First of all?
Speaker 1: Then you never liked that. But it's not like they're
Speaker 1: not mad about it from like a comic book standpoint,
Speaker 1: because that I could get behind. They're literally married about
Speaker 1: it from a moral standpoint. And listen, I've been there.
Speaker 1: And as as as as a filmmaker, I have, Um.
Speaker 1: I remember when the Saw movies came out that really
Speaker 1: they really bothered me because I thought they were putting
Speaker 1: like bad ideas in people's heads. But then you watch
Speaker 1: the behind the scenes with the director, and those are
Speaker 1: based off of real tortures they did during the Spanish Inquisition,
Speaker 1: and so it says to yourself, this is our imitating life,
Speaker 1: not the other way around, and it's just a reflection
Speaker 1: on how disgusting we are as a society. Yeah. Also,
Speaker 1: we live in a world where you can google how
Speaker 1: to make a bomb. Yeah, nothing, everybody knows that fact.
Speaker 1: Though nothing that happens in that movie is not something
Speaker 1: that has happened in real life. They're also not glorifying.
Speaker 1: I mean, none of the characters in the movie are
Speaker 1: good to like. The Joker is very mentally ill, and
Speaker 1: if anything, I thought it was a really nice commentary
Speaker 1: on how poorly we handle mental health. Uh. I think
Speaker 1: also part of the problem stands stems from the fact
Speaker 1: that the Joker, you know, Arthur fleck Um, is a
Speaker 1: straight white male and he is suffering, and his suffering
Speaker 1: then makes him act out violently, and I think people
Speaker 1: just don't want to see that, But I go, just
Speaker 1: because you don't want to see that doesn't mean it's
Speaker 1: not happening. It's actually happening all the time. And when
Speaker 1: we and and we've tried for the past several years
Speaker 1: to just say to just put our hands over the
Speaker 1: mouths of these straight white males and silence them and
Speaker 1: say we're we've heard from you enough. And that's resulted
Speaker 1: in just more strings. It's not helping and it's not okay.
Speaker 1: So I we absolutely need to raise other people up,
Speaker 1: but you do not achieve that by pushing other people's
Speaker 1: I it's just when I was outside earlier, I was
Speaker 1: Michael Jay. I was really look at his Instagram stories
Speaker 1: and he just mainly like type stuff and he was
Speaker 1: typing about the joke. You know, he was back on
Speaker 1: social Oh yeah, he back on social because he puts
Speaker 1: pictures of Colin Joe's like doing a Nazi next Colin
Speaker 1: Joes to come off as real racist and it's hilarious.
Speaker 1: Um because Colin really it seems like he gets upset
Speaker 1: bad it. But it might be an act. Um. But
Speaker 1: Chay was saying, the Joker movie is a new symbol
Speaker 1: of white eye rage. It's good, though too long, but good.
Speaker 1: If you got picked on a lot in high school,
Speaker 1: this movie is about to be your jam. I completely
Speaker 1: understand why people were freaking out about it. Though. When
Speaker 1: that ship started to climax, I was like, oh lord,
Speaker 1: please don't let none of these dorks in here feel inspired.
Speaker 1: And then um and then uh, somebody like he posts
Speaker 1: people's responses to his message and he'll respond. So somebody
Speaker 1: wrote him and said, yeah. The when the three cops
Speaker 1: came in our theater towards the end, I was like,
Speaker 1: do you do they know something is about to happen?
Speaker 1: And then Michael goes l L. White dudes finally have
Speaker 1: developed the stereotype of being unstable and making folks nervous,
Speaker 1: and they're the only ones baffled as to why, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, there's cops and my theater too. And I
Speaker 1: was like, are you seeing the movie? Are or are
Speaker 1: they actually having this guy? And then this guy messages
Speaker 1: Jay and he goes, the security guard to the movie
Speaker 1: made my brother take off his sweatshirt before we went in,
Speaker 1: and Michael Jay goes, yeah, they made me do the
Speaker 1: same thing at twelve years of slave, Welcome to N
Speaker 1: word dumb Megan, and I was like, that's really funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it was just very It's funny because like
Speaker 1: I was really expecting a lot of violence that I
Speaker 1: couldn't handle and I'm not great with violence. I went
Speaker 1: to see with Mike Carrington actually, and uh it was
Speaker 1: he was more a lot like every vicious attack that happened,
Speaker 1: I saw it a couple of seconds before it happened. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it was not some people acting like violences. And
Speaker 1: in movies, it's everywhere, it's in television, Child's like compared
Speaker 1: to American History X. I think sometimes when ship gets popular,
Speaker 1: it's just opens itself up more to criticism, and a
Speaker 1: lot of that criticism is coming from nowhere. I thought
Speaker 1: it was just a great commentary all around, a great
Speaker 1: commentary on um On on comedy. Obviously, I have a
Speaker 1: you know, a saw spot for anything in comedy, but
Speaker 1: like you know, there's been so money uh TV shows
Speaker 1: and stuff about comedy recently and movies, and this handles
Speaker 1: it in a completely different way. He's also a performance
Speaker 1: clown who does like, you know, events at the hospitals
Speaker 1: and stuff. So he's he's doing that and then also
Speaker 1: doing stand up. I mean there's just always actually a
Speaker 1: stand up Yeah he's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: big part of it, um because like Sam Moran, Sam Morrel,
Speaker 1: Gary Galdman and Greer Barnes have little tiny parts in
Speaker 1: it that it's really cute to see that they do. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's really nice. It's really cool. Oh, I'm so excited
Speaker 1: to watch this movie. Um, but yeah, and so it
Speaker 1: and I mean it's I think it's in this culture
Speaker 1: of where we just really you know, this came out
Speaker 1: and everyone just decided, hey, uh, you know, the liberal
Speaker 1: stance is to say that this incites violence. But to me,
Speaker 1: it feels very hypocritical, because no one in this film
Speaker 1: is is good And if anything, to me, it's pointing
Speaker 1: to people like these fucking Seth Simons. Uh, who is
Speaker 1: the guy who wrote the article that took Shane Gillis
Speaker 1: down and notified from S and L. And I know
Speaker 1: some people are following that story who listen to this podcast.
Speaker 1: Some aren't. I've seen people shooting on me on Reddit
Speaker 1: for defending him. I will defend any comic for saying
Speaker 1: literally whatever I mean pretty much in line less you're
Speaker 1: like yelling like the N word at someone on the street,
Speaker 1: like any any any conversational funny thing that you're saying
Speaker 1: on a podcast, whether or not I find it humorous,
Speaker 1: whether or not is my kind of comedy. That's not
Speaker 1: the conversation we're having because when you start nitpicking about uh,
Speaker 1: this offends me, But this says you can't cherry pick.
Speaker 1: You're either all in and you're all like, if you
Speaker 1: support peaceful protests, that means you also have to support
Speaker 1: groups that go against your own moral beliefs, which I
Speaker 1: peacefully protests do as well as so that's going to
Speaker 1: help moral for all of us. As a Jew, I
Speaker 1: think the KKK should be allowed to meet peacefully at
Speaker 1: how much they hate you. That's what America is. And
Speaker 1: I can bring my jew ass in front of them
Speaker 1: and do a little dance, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And I am and I would be like not even
Speaker 1: worth it because they don't even deserve that. They don't
Speaker 1: even deserve your jew ass. But like, yeah, so it's
Speaker 1: and it's just funny to me because it's like these
Speaker 1: same people who are like this is gonna insight violence,
Speaker 1: these are the same people who are encouraging us all
Speaker 1: to punch Nazis six months ago. Yeah, and I don't
Speaker 1: think that's gonna don't think either. I don't think that
Speaker 1: was okay either. Yeah, It's just it's just there's a
Speaker 1: lot of hypocrisy. Punching people is never really going to
Speaker 1: solve anything. And one of the main plot points of
Speaker 1: the film themes is that, to me, it's like an
Speaker 1: episode of Girls in which, oh, all the characters are garbage. Um,
Speaker 1: but you're looking at it and you're saying, all these
Speaker 1: characters are bad, but these are all these characters think
Speaker 1: they are good, and they think they are fighting for
Speaker 1: something that is just and moral and right. And that's
Speaker 1: what's happening now in this exactly. It's a huge part
Speaker 1: of really beautiful. And that's why I specifically like Batman
Speaker 1: and X Men because they really do and in comic
Speaker 1: books in general, that's why I don't think they're silly
Speaker 1: in the way that I think other things are silly,
Speaker 1: because they really are these beautiful, uh, reflections on what
Speaker 1: is happening in society. Horror movies a lot too, especially
Speaker 1: when they started, you know, like I don't Vampires, Like
Speaker 1: the Vampires was really about like immigration I learned in
Speaker 1: a museum. Uh, it's just very very interesting. Um. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I encourage you to see it with an open mind.
Speaker 1: I mean, the fact that people were seeing how to
Speaker 1: leave the theater, Like, yeah, it's violent, but also like
Speaker 1: most of the violence isn't even that realistic. It is
Speaker 1: a little bit like a little bit elevated in that
Speaker 1: comic book way. Um, So I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was just really like after I saw it, I go, oh, wow,
Speaker 1: that's not at all what I was expecting. And this
Speaker 1: is why I don't read movie reviews, and this is
Speaker 1: why I like try to see I was like, I
Speaker 1: want to see it this weekend because I had already
Speaker 1: gotten too much in there and I was like, people
Speaker 1: are just gonna keep going on and on about it,
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, I love an internet fight.
Speaker 1: I can't get involved in one if I haven't seen it,
Speaker 1: because I never want to be one of these fucking
Speaker 1: people that is retweet the article saying something about something
Speaker 1: that I have not yet seen. And I'm guessing a
Speaker 1: lot of those fucking people, you know, it sounds like it.
Speaker 1: And it was also dishearnting because like it was mostly
Speaker 1: like women, um, a lot of women saying negative things
Speaker 1: about it. But if anything, there's a part of the
Speaker 1: film uh was was again like a really uh harsh
Speaker 1: and good way to show how men and women interact
Speaker 1: and how um men scare women and how men feel
Speaker 1: that do crazy things because they feel like they are
Speaker 1: old women. Like I just thought there wasn't really like
Speaker 1: if you go in with an open mind. I thought
Speaker 1: it was really really fucking good. And it is two
Speaker 1: hours and two minutes, and I don't think it was
Speaker 1: too long at all. I was on the fucking edge
Speaker 1: of my seat the whole time. I had a pee
Speaker 1: because I had drink a lot of caffeine to stay
Speaker 1: up to see it that late on the Sunday, and
Speaker 1: like I am, I was, I like had to run
Speaker 1: out because I was so worried I would miss something. Wow,
Speaker 1: Oh cool, Well I'm gonna say it. You sold me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just it was just people will
Speaker 1: be fucking more open to stuff. Yeah. Well they Also
Speaker 1: the problem with the internet now is that we hear
Speaker 1: everybody's opinion, so it does seem like there's more disagreements
Speaker 1: than there were ten years ago. But the thing is
Speaker 1: people have always had these opinions, they just we didn't
Speaker 1: have access to hearing them right. Because everyone's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I feel a lot of men wait in line for
Speaker 1: this man movie. It's not a man. It's only a
Speaker 1: man movie. If you see it's a man movies. I
Speaker 1: took a lot from it as a woman, as a performer,
Speaker 1: as a comedian, as like, it's not a fucking man
Speaker 1: movie a movie, and also like like what are our
Speaker 1: white our straight white men not just have to suck
Speaker 1: up their mental illness now, Like I mean, no, that's
Speaker 1: not for any of us. It's fucking ridiculous. Get it out, boys, ridiculous,
Speaker 1: let your feelings out anyway, guys, Oh my god, Okay,
Speaker 1: you got anything you need to air outside? I just
Speaker 1: got nauseous for some reason that's talked about white men
Speaker 1: too much. So, um, this is an episode we've been
Speaker 1: wanting to do for quite some time. We actually had
Speaker 1: it schedule to a couple of months ago, and then
Speaker 1: one of the performers tore her a c l as
Speaker 1: she has done before because she's an amazing live performer.
Speaker 1: They have a podcast together. They are a real life couple.
Speaker 1: They also are a band together, and they like each other,
Speaker 1: like each other show. After seventeen years I've seen them live.
Speaker 1: They were on the cash a cruise just like one
Speaker 1: of like one of these like the best performers I've
Speaker 1: ever seen live. Ladies and gentlemen, Please welcome Matt and
Speaker 1: Kim spinning go to Gizzy chan Chase, who alas my
Speaker 1: no one winn is that shot out of hardless? One thing?
Speaker 1: We both know that you could be listening to start
Speaker 1: is good us? See who you know? You didn't know
Speaker 1: that you're messing kindness? Why would you let this one side?
Speaker 1: Don't you ye careless? Believe how far you let this get?
Speaker 1: A big man hear, Yeah, that's no problem. I'm here
Speaker 1: to help. We're here with Matt and Kim. Hello. Can
Speaker 1: I cheer for myself? Is that normal? It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I want myself in my home, cheer all you want.
Speaker 1: I like that. You're like, can you cheer for yourself?
Speaker 1: But you're not cheering for me? Just everyone cheers for
Speaker 1: Kim all the time. Anyway, Lacy, jay Z and Beyonce
Speaker 1: in concert and jay Z on stage, You're like, get
Speaker 1: out of here, we want to I'm going to put
Speaker 1: this up because I was going to bring it up
Speaker 1: if you didn't. Kim wants wanted to make T shirts
Speaker 1: that just one had Kim on it and one had
Speaker 1: Matt on it, And I was going to be I
Speaker 1: was like, we can't have that because I know zero
Speaker 1: Matt shirts would ever sell. I just can't shirt. Yeah
Speaker 1: you say that, feel bad about it? Yeah? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't want you to feel bad. It is. Well, Christina
Speaker 1: and I, as a commedy comedy, we always do to
Speaker 1: never do stuff like that. We don't do individualized merch
Speaker 1: because we don't we got we don't want to know,
Speaker 1: we don't want to know, and then we reread it
Speaker 1: seem well, you're competitive that I want to know and
Speaker 1: I want to win, but we all know, Kim and
Speaker 1: Matt knows, and he's really I think it's really big
Speaker 1: of you to just say it. Yeah. Well, it's easy
Speaker 1: to want to know and play and win when you
Speaker 1: know you're obviously gonna win. I was gonna say, that's
Speaker 1: why your victory it's in predisposed victory already. That's hilarious.
Speaker 1: How long have you guys been together? We just realized
Speaker 1: we're going on team that we've been banging each other. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's since yeah, yeah and yeah, and we spent
Speaker 1: like every waking second together for fifteen years and we
Speaker 1: haven't killed each other yet. Well, okay, so I was
Speaker 1: in a relationship for seven years and the last year
Speaker 1: we both worked from home and that was truly hell
Speaker 1: on earth and I hated every second. Is that what
Speaker 1: did the but that really put gave? You know, it
Speaker 1: allowed some traits to really surface. Uh, you know when
Speaker 1: you live together and you work together and you just
Speaker 1: can't you're never And I hated it. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't think I ever want to be this close to
Speaker 1: a human being ever. But I guess that's what a
Speaker 1: marriage is. Well, you guys seem to like it. We
Speaker 1: moved in together two months after we started dating. Well
Speaker 1: that's New York, real expensive, huh, and it happens a
Speaker 1: lot here. Yeah, speed moving and a lot of money,
Speaker 1: lot of money. But so we moved in together there. Um.
Speaker 1: I remember our friends had an intervention so that we
Speaker 1: would get a cell phone. But I was too cheap.
Speaker 1: I was like, we're always together, We're just going to
Speaker 1: share a cell phone. So we did that for what
Speaker 1: like three four years? Maybe you shared a cell phone, wait,
Speaker 1: but wait for this. We shared a twin bed, like
Speaker 1: a one person bed for like five years. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: In love. Well, it's disgusting. Gross, It's gross when you
Speaker 1: say it out loud. But why did you do that?
Speaker 1: Because we had a really small apartment again in New York,
Speaker 1: and you didn't want to kill each other. We're still alive.
Speaker 1: Look at us. You really seem to like each other.
Speaker 1: This is gysic. Is happy, very happy. I mean sometimes
Speaker 1: it's like the as you pointed out, the words are
Speaker 1: angry but sounds happy. Yes, because I love that You're like,
Speaker 1: I can't stand you. But if you die, i'd cry,
Speaker 1: all of us. But maybe you didn't know. We took
Speaker 1: the farthest seats from each other here, so like it's
Speaker 1: all this is probably going to be the been down.
Speaker 1: It is healthier though, because if you would have been like,
Speaker 1: I actually want to share a seat with him, I
Speaker 1: would have been like this, I don't we have to share, Mike.
Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh boy, I would have loved if
Speaker 1: we were outside on you had the intercommon and I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, you smile when we're in there and
Speaker 1: pretend like you like me. That's really funny. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: either of you need out, just winked at one of
Speaker 1: us and we'll help you. Are you ever apart in
Speaker 1: the mornings when you're taking a ship? I wake out? Yeah, Kim,
Speaker 1: as a whole life before I wake up, Like, are
Speaker 1: you guys early riser? And see, I think, luckily what
Speaker 1: we do doesn't mean you necessarily have to be an
Speaker 1: early riser. And so Kim gets up and she like
Speaker 1: eats breakfast and makes like these big meals and goes
Speaker 1: and works out and everything, and I sleep in and
Speaker 1: you had that whole life before I wake up, and
Speaker 1: then I get up and eat dry cereal because I'm
Speaker 1: so efficient, because I think efficiency and laziness are right
Speaker 1: next to They absolutely are to fine line and both
Speaker 1: are very important. Well, it's important, you know, to allow
Speaker 1: yourself to be lazy and then efficiency. You're really wow
Speaker 1: you So is that your alone time then without Matt? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean I wish you'd work out if you wanted to.
Speaker 1: Would that be okay with you in your routine. I
Speaker 1: sometimes take photos of men's abs, just the abs, and
Speaker 1: I send them to Matt, and I say, that can't
Speaker 1: do that for me. She's not taking the photos of
Speaker 1: the apps. She's like screen the internet to men on
Speaker 1: the street. Show me your stomach. You have an inviting smile.
Speaker 1: It's like I feel like I could pull it off.
Speaker 1: You definitely wait and how does that make you feel, Matt, Well, okay,
Speaker 1: this therapy. Yeah, well we like to flip it coming in,
Speaker 1: but not when we leave. If we flip that, is
Speaker 1: there anything where can send that sort of message? I
Speaker 1: do tell you to tell me when I look fat,
Speaker 1: and I honestly want you to tell me or if
Speaker 1: now now this feels like an episode of like Friends
Speaker 1: or something like like, I would feel if I were
Speaker 1: you that that's a trap, but I don't know it
Speaker 1: only because I might have said that trap before to
Speaker 1: many men. There is only one answer to that question,
Speaker 1: and it is how you look incredibly skinny, like I've
Speaker 1: never seen you look so skinny before. That's the answer.
Speaker 1: Let's be honest. I actually had trouble seeing you this
Speaker 1: morning because you've gotten stuff in So you really want
Speaker 1: him to have abs? Oh my god? Yes? And you
Speaker 1: what's your thoughts on that? So after seventeen years, right,
Speaker 1: it's a long time, aren't you then at the point
Speaker 1: where you don't have to necessarily impress your significantly because
Speaker 1: I don't. My shirt basically never comes off. I don't
Speaker 1: like going in the water, I don't like going to it,
Speaker 1: but only skims comes off in concerts, really, I was
Speaker 1: on the kesh of cruise and you wore my bra,
Speaker 1: my orange bra. That's me. I sorry to reveal myself
Speaker 1: now it feels were this is an intervention for Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was that was that was the first time I've
Speaker 1: seen them, Like right, I was like, I was like,
Speaker 1: that's our producer Slash, my best friend. So it's very
Speaker 1: he was there too. Yeah, all right. I was in
Speaker 1: quarantine for two and a half days. But that was
Speaker 1: an awesome cruise. I had so much fun. It was
Speaker 1: so funny. I got the flu. Yeah, okay, I woke
Speaker 1: up for pilates speaking of morning X yes, and number one,
Speaker 1: I'm very pale, and I forgot that sun comes out
Speaker 1: in the morning, I guess, and I didn't wear like burning.
Speaker 1: And then also I learned, I'm really bad at pilates
Speaker 1: and it's really difficult, so don't go. Not no AB
Speaker 1: is worth it, not even one ab. So it's so
Speaker 1: hard and you're so fit, and I don't know how
Speaker 1: you do it and have the energy to sustain this.
Speaker 1: And then drum like a motherfucker, like, well, drumming is
Speaker 1: a long it's a lot of work. Cool, It's funny
Speaker 1: because a lot of times people. Okay, So I've been
Speaker 1: doing physical therapy for my torn a c L and
Speaker 1: I was in l A doing that, and I'm at
Speaker 1: the spot which has a lot of older women, and
Speaker 1: every day I was like, I'd see like sixty five
Speaker 1: and older. There's like younger people too, but it's these
Speaker 1: older women who every time I'm in there there like
Speaker 1: can I touch your arms? Happened every time, or someone
Speaker 1: would be like some cute old lady would be like,
Speaker 1: will you make a muscle for me? And I'm like, okay, people,
Speaker 1: yes you are, dear. I want to know what it's like.
Speaker 1: There's a reason why we've also never arm wrestled before,
Speaker 1: because it becomes very clear who would probably win that one.
Speaker 1: But let's rewind. Can I just say goddamn to the titties,
Speaker 1: because when I put that bra on, like I don't
Speaker 1: have big This story gets weirder. We may or may
Speaker 1: have not but blow up versions of Matt and Kim
Speaker 1: too aforementioned certain And then of course we decided we
Speaker 1: had to dress them up. So we took my clothes
Speaker 1: and put it on the Kim doll, and then during
Speaker 1: the concert threw it on stage and then it was like,
Speaker 1: it's a really cool Neon orange bra, and then then
Speaker 1: took it and put it on while she was drumming,
Speaker 1: and honestly made me like you so much, because like
Speaker 1: it was like all cool and stuff when someone you
Speaker 1: love puts on your clothing. But then you're like, I
Speaker 1: really like that bra, and I don't know that I
Speaker 1: could get it again, and you did return it, and
Speaker 1: I was like, this is a professional because bras are expensive.
Speaker 1: You just can't be throwing them anywhere. That was like,
Speaker 1: really nice of you. So I got you. What did
Speaker 1: you think when you saw a blow up doll coming
Speaker 1: your way? With? Well, with you guys, we we make them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like there's a license you know there. We made
Speaker 1: the minimum order of these blow up dolls. We get
Speaker 1: a thousand, right, so we have we made a thousand
Speaker 1: blow up sex dolls with our faces on that and okay,
Speaker 1: so we got the first prot types back, right, and
Speaker 1: we're looking at and Kim's like, the boobs are really
Speaker 1: big on the Kim one, and she's like, can we
Speaker 1: make them smaller? And they're basically no one has ever
Speaker 1: asked us to make the boobs smaller, but we do
Speaker 1: not have the technology to make the boobs smaller, and
Speaker 1: then for me mine did well. I think they both
Speaker 1: had buttholes and we were like, we're like, it's a
Speaker 1: little too much because a vagina hole. I only had
Speaker 1: a butthole, not a vagina and drow these into the
Speaker 1: show like the audience at all of our shows, like
Speaker 1: for six of them, that's what we usually do with them.
Speaker 1: And I was like, there's sometimes there's children there, and
Speaker 1: I'm like the boathole is just the one step too far. Boobs, Yeah,
Speaker 1: find whatever. Even this funny penis, I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: that's a guy I want to have a dick. Yeah
Speaker 1: it was a blow up dick. Yeah you can't. It
Speaker 1: just looks silly. I think a blow up is like silly,
Speaker 1: so it's not as weird for a kid. I guess
Speaker 1: this is not making us up. In my head, we
Speaker 1: did get I'm talking to myself into this. Some d
Speaker 1: M message is from one group of people after that
Speaker 1: cruise of just a group of naked people getting down
Speaker 1: with the Matt and Kim how to make you feel?
Speaker 1: I was like it was exciting. Yes, I've been in
Speaker 1: a committed relationship for seventeen years. That blow up doll
Speaker 1: is getting way more action and fun than I am. Apparently,
Speaker 1: how how old were you guys when you met? Matt
Speaker 1: was no, you're twenty when yeah, I was, And so
Speaker 1: I asked him to go to a bar and he
Speaker 1: said he wasn't old enough. And then I was about
Speaker 1: to be like step back, walk away, and I was like, fucking,
Speaker 1: we can do something else horrible, like favorite bag and
Speaker 1: we'll walk around. Now, how many partners sexual partners had
Speaker 1: you have before we met each other? I I got around. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my go to at a bar would be I'd walk
Speaker 1: up to a guy and I'd say, hey, my name's Kim.
Speaker 1: I just thought you should know that, and then I'd
Speaker 1: walk away because it gives them the power. I'm just
Speaker 1: throwing it out there. I'd come back so then you know,
Speaker 1: as the night goes on, you just throw that in
Speaker 1: several directions and it always catches way better than cacom.
Speaker 1: Women are so smart. That's really smart and that works.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a great line. That's confidence. Then I
Speaker 1: know your name, Yeah, but again it's not going to
Speaker 1: work the other way. I mean, my name's Nathaniel and
Speaker 1: I went away. I would be like the powers in
Speaker 1: my hands. If I want to approach him, I can.
Speaker 1: If I don't, he gave me a very unawkward out.
Speaker 1: I think you could try that. How many It's a
Speaker 1: win win and everyone's situation like there's no aggressiveness to it.
Speaker 1: It's like abrupt hey, al right, Like you do what
Speaker 1: you're doing, but I'll be over there. I thought, powerful
Speaker 1: And then you give space, right. I like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you cast it and then you reel it in and
Speaker 1: then you go away. Leave the pole. You're not too thirsty.
Speaker 1: It's good. Yeah, you leave it there and you like
Speaker 1: to get back on that pole. But how many people
Speaker 1: have you were you with before you met Kim? You've
Speaker 1: only had sex with one person? That's okay. So this
Speaker 1: is a situation I hear about a lot like people
Speaker 1: and I usually were like leave the person. But you guys,
Speaker 1: you made it work, So maybe I'm giving bad advice. Well,
Speaker 1: but also this is like they actually made something like
Speaker 1: a whole like project about it. This is this is
Speaker 1: my dream to find someone that can have sex with
Speaker 1: and also work with and not murder. And I've never
Speaker 1: been able to make it happen. I never thought it
Speaker 1: was possible until you guys, guys, I'm just gonna say,
Speaker 1: magic pussy. Yeah, that's what it is. A magic pussy,
Speaker 1: magic pussy met I don't know. Apparently, Well, if it
Speaker 1: is all all pussies, all pussies are magic as far
Speaker 1: as I know, then right, because you never know, you
Speaker 1: don't know. No, Matt, this is it. You can't get
Speaker 1: anywhere else. It's all downhill from here. I did give Matt.
Speaker 1: There was a sile where I was like, this sucks
Speaker 1: because I've been with a lot of people and you've
Speaker 1: only been with me. So I was saying like, look,
Speaker 1: I'm fu yeah, go out do something. You don't let
Speaker 1: me know. I didn't, but I said, don't let me know.
Speaker 1: But then I started going, well, wait, the pussy has
Speaker 1: to be my age or older. You can't have younger pussy,
Speaker 1: like because I don't want him to know what that's
Speaker 1: all about. Okay, but it's not great. I don't know.
Speaker 1: If it's much younger, they're not going to know how
Speaker 1: to work. I was gonna say, they might be just
Speaker 1: lying there like the danger zone I think would be
Speaker 1: early thirties. Is your danger zone below that? I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be I'm I'm like thirty nine getting close, Yeah, but
Speaker 1: still clearly I'm thirty. I'm thirty four. It's not like
Speaker 1: we're not like, okay, welcome to guys, Like it's a
Speaker 1: this is young, it's not older, older creek. I'm sitting
Speaker 1: there like I have a pillow to adjust my lower back.
Speaker 1: Right now, it's not the hot fuck show it used
Speaker 1: to be six years ago when we started. Okay, it
Speaker 1: was hot box on the show. We're just like, how
Speaker 1: do you not kill? And now we're like, let's get
Speaker 1: into education more like sex education and take a turn.
Speaker 1: So wait, so you suggested this. You don't remember this,
Speaker 1: Matt Well, Okay. When she says she suggested, she says
Speaker 1: it weighs like this, like she's like, Okay, you could
Speaker 1: cheat on me as long as I never know, but
Speaker 1: if I ever found out, I would have to kill you,
Speaker 1: Like well this there's holes in this hole if you're good,
Speaker 1: but if you can be really sneaky. But I don't,
Speaker 1: I mean, you want It seems like a lot of words,
Speaker 1: and it seems like the only option you have for
Speaker 1: a time frame is the morning when she's getting at
Speaker 1: and then and then I don't have to wake up early.
Speaker 1: That doesn't you have to bring your cereal in a ziplock,
Speaker 1: like you have so much to do. Well, Okay, let
Speaker 1: me ask you this though, because Kim was saying how
Speaker 1: up her game is sexually and a verse a young person? Right? Um, Well,
Speaker 1: my question is, so we met when we were relatively early, right, Kim,
Speaker 1: do you think we've changed how we have sex? Because
Speaker 1: I don't think we have No, I don't think. So.
Speaker 1: My question is have I not evolved at all because
Speaker 1: we have not had varied partners? Have we been in
Speaker 1: one stuck situation for all these years? But the thing
Speaker 1: is is I come before you, So it's like good,
Speaker 1: that's great, Like we get not all the time, but
Speaker 1: a high percentage. That's and he knows the moves, like Okay,
Speaker 1: I know if I put her here, it's gonna be good,
Speaker 1: right right. But but on the other hand, like when
Speaker 1: you say, like, oh, someone who's young doesn't know as well? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like that because I'm stunted at that age. I did
Speaker 1: not age here. I wasn't having great sex when I
Speaker 1: was nineteen. I just wasn't twenties. When I got my twenties,
Speaker 1: I was with one person for seven years. So like,
Speaker 1: but so we got really comfortable together. But we got
Speaker 1: to like we were fucking man. We got but our
Speaker 1: sex ofvolved into like, let's do some crazy ship. But
Speaker 1: you guys have the same type of sex and you
Speaker 1: like it. That's amazing. Well, I mean that's not me
Speaker 1: hesitating whether I like it. I do like it, yes
Speaker 1: for sure, But don't you think it? It would be
Speaker 1: odd to try something very I don't even know where
Speaker 1: I'm going with. What was something sex that you were like,
Speaker 1: I ain't touching this in the beginning where I would
Speaker 1: imagine where, Yeah, how did that go? I cuckled? I
Speaker 1: I had a cuckolding kink uh, And so I wanted
Speaker 1: to see my boyfriend have sex with somebody else in
Speaker 1: front of me. And so we did it three separate times,
Speaker 1: and each time it got better and and then the
Speaker 1: last time we did it, we went to a sex
Speaker 1: club with the girl. It was very fun. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: that but but it took like for me to say
Speaker 1: what I wanted to do out loud. There was like
Speaker 1: a three year gap between actually doing or two year
Speaker 1: gap between actually saying I wanted to do it and
Speaker 1: then doing it. I'm very slow with new sexual stuff.
Speaker 1: I get ver uncomfortable. So I need to make sure
Speaker 1: that I feel comfortable every step of the way, and
Speaker 1: usually means it's gonna take a while. But I think
Speaker 1: that's good. It's like it helps you get into that, okay,
Speaker 1: because I think when you realize yourself something you're into, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're kind of like em yeah, and first you like
Speaker 1: maybe incorporate into dirty talks only introducing it. I'm very
Speaker 1: slow with that stuff because that's my that's the pace
Speaker 1: to move. But have you guys discovered like a fetish
Speaker 1: or kink that you had a trying to find out
Speaker 1: some weird ship that Matt is into? And I ask
Speaker 1: a lot, but how would I know? That's the questions,
Speaker 1: Like if there's a certain scene, like a kind of
Speaker 1: scenario that you get off on. I mean I've never
Speaker 1: done blood play, but like for me, like if i'm
Speaker 1: I know, this is a lot to hit you as guys,
Speaker 1: I'm bloody right now, so let's get into this. I
Speaker 1: mean there's different ways to do it, like I you know,
Speaker 1: I like to live in adult goth life style. Like
Speaker 1: I've taken a hot topic too far, you know, So
Speaker 1: I do have a have a coffin in my home,
Speaker 1: so like we had um a couple on and one
Speaker 1: of them was a registered and they were talking about
Speaker 1: actually like taking like you know, and remember when like
Speaker 1: Angelina and Billy Bob used to wear vials of each
Speaker 1: other's blood and everyone was like, that's weird. I was like,
Speaker 1: that's my dream. Like I thought it was Like I
Speaker 1: thought it was very romantic and like because I like
Speaker 1: to have one on one sex, but just like get
Speaker 1: really psycho into the other person to the point where
Speaker 1: like you're not sure if it's healthy, but you're going
Speaker 1: to keep it going anyway because it feels good. Wait
Speaker 1: when you're saying psychoes it aggressively or just obsess both, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean aggressive, like not I try. I have to.
Speaker 1: I have a lot of masculine energy, so I need
Speaker 1: to I need to pull it back a little bit
Speaker 1: sometimes because I still like to feel like the feminine
Speaker 1: energy in a relationship. And it took a long time
Speaker 1: to kind of navigate my way through that. But yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I just like to be like a little obsessive with people,
Speaker 1: but like we're both on the same page, not one
Speaker 1: side and like swim fan or something. Yeah, because then
Speaker 1: that's that's sucking. I believe work, and you're like, I
Speaker 1: should go. Yeah, so blood play. I mean it's just
Speaker 1: you know, like trying to make a vampire in real life,
Speaker 1: like like like a little like you're making a little cut.
Speaker 1: You're not You're not getting hurt. You look so are
Speaker 1: you sing on that cut? Yeah? Yeah? Probably? So do
Speaker 1: you need to get tested? And I'm looking at you like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, well have you met Kim, because let's
Speaker 1: go to the story. Let's go to the story isn't sexual, though,
Speaker 1: but from how Matt reacts to it, I guess it's weird.
Speaker 1: So when I was a kid, I was really into vampires.
Speaker 1: Perfect wanted to be a vampire. Loved Lost Boys, watch
Speaker 1: that movie over and over again. Also as a kid,
Speaker 1: I had something which is like soft tissue in your nose,
Speaker 1: so I would get nosebleeds. At nosebleeds a lot too,
Speaker 1: so much so my mom had this like goblet type
Speaker 1: glass and I would bleed into it and then I
Speaker 1: would drink it because I thought I was a vampire.
Speaker 1: But the taste, it's like weird ironing, right, yeah, like
Speaker 1: salty metal. I had the first time forever because I
Speaker 1: had a cold for a while and I was like,
Speaker 1: and you kind of can taste it when you accidentally
Speaker 1: go it's like good. But in my mind, I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is just like the Lost Boys. One step further,
Speaker 1: I was bleeding so much that I couldn't keep up
Speaker 1: with drinking it, so I would lead into ziplock bags
Speaker 1: and then save it. And then one day I forgot
Speaker 1: and left it on the back of the toilet and
Speaker 1: my mom found it. She's like, what is this? Freaked out?
Speaker 1: I was like, well, like my blood, was like, I
Speaker 1: gotta drink that because I wanted to be a vampire.
Speaker 1: And she said, answer, that was disgusting. Threw it away,
Speaker 1: and so I hid it from then on. Because how
Speaker 1: long did you drink your own blood? I probably did
Speaker 1: it for about maybe like a year. That's a wow.
Speaker 1: And is it bad for you to drink your own blood?
Speaker 1: I think you can drink almost your all your own fluids,
Speaker 1: but not eat your own poop. Yeah, I guess you
Speaker 1: can get your own you can drink, you can drink
Speaker 1: your own pee, I think within reason going to that.
Speaker 1: Oh my good god, now I get white guys. Last
Speaker 1: the long everything pea tastes way worse than blood. Okay,
Speaker 1: and you know that because I have had matts by
Speaker 1: accident a couple of times to tour in like a
Speaker 1: little van. I have a really small bladder, and if
Speaker 1: I did not have a small dick, I'm like, wowt's
Speaker 1: I mean, it's you know, it's very I have a
Speaker 1: very small bladder, peanut bladder where And I know traditionally
Speaker 1: if the stereotype is the women have the bad rap
Speaker 1: on the road trip for need to pull over to pete, No,
Speaker 1: I need to pull over pee every other minute. So
Speaker 1: I learned. I got real good at peanut bottles. So
Speaker 1: I just filled bottles as we'll be driving around and
Speaker 1: just and sometimes I get mixed up with the other
Speaker 1: water bottles. Found to happen. Wait, the first time, very well,
Speaker 1: the first time though it happened was you drank your
Speaker 1: own because you guys have been just a lot of
Speaker 1: your own substances. But it was we had just visited
Speaker 1: his grandmother on this tour and where she lived in Florida.
Speaker 1: You know, Florida water tastes weird. So water it's got
Speaker 1: a little funk too, So I let a little in
Speaker 1: my mouth. Well, like I started like a sip. I
Speaker 1: was like, that's funky, and then I was like, it
Speaker 1: just must be that Florida tapwater. I went back your Florida.
Speaker 1: You know, I've heard a lot of Florida stuff. That's
Speaker 1: pretty that's the most Yeah, yes, so we've done. How
Speaker 1: do we pull this back around to where we were
Speaker 1: before we went down? This is my favorite pet on
Speaker 1: each other sexually, I Peter and Kim non sexually because
Speaker 1: we're drunk, trying to cross streams calling Phil Fu, Yeah,
Speaker 1: calling Phil Fu. Yeah, Yeah, we were. Kim was sitting
Speaker 1: on the toilet pean, and I guess I wanted to
Speaker 1: cross stream, so I was trying to pee between her legs,
Speaker 1: but she was also and then I he was He's
Speaker 1: just goes and then just being over. Wow, that's you
Speaker 1: know what I could see that happening with somebody if
Speaker 1: I was with him for that long. Yeah, yell, yell, loop,
Speaker 1: Because you know, sometimes so you get too comfortable with
Speaker 1: each other, but we won't shoot in front of each other.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask if you had any like boundaries
Speaker 1: where you won't cross That's that's a great little line,
Speaker 1: but I do think that too comfortable things. So when
Speaker 1: you were talking about how like you were with them
Speaker 1: for a while and you just get like crazy with them. Yes, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: and um so to me, it's like we've known each
Speaker 1: other so well, we're best friends that sometimes like we'll
Speaker 1: be in bed and it'll be like Kim could just
Speaker 1: and it could be go into sexual direction and kid,
Speaker 1: we'll just start laughing or something like that, and it's
Speaker 1: just like that's a real buzz kill. Yeah you know,
Speaker 1: but we're so comfortable that that's just our rights. The
Speaker 1: vibe gets ruined. It almost feels weird to put on
Speaker 1: a weird like, oh, I'm like an aggressive sexual person
Speaker 1: because that's just not usual personality. Day Okay, got it,
Speaker 1: got it. It'd be like who are you? Yeah, you're right,
Speaker 1: you're being fake. You're putting on a mask or something.
Speaker 1: Even though sometimes I like you to be the massioux,
Speaker 1: but that's still you, assius. Great for it. There's a
Speaker 1: guy in New York City will finger you for like
Speaker 1: fifty bucks on a massage table. Yeah a lot, but
Speaker 1: do you get the massage to Yeah, you don't deal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like a suggested donation. It's something. Okay, I think
Speaker 1: you're the right people to ask this question because it's
Speaker 1: been happy to deal with massage hit us I used to. Okay,
Speaker 1: So we had this this massuse we've really liked in
Speaker 1: l a UM and she's great, she's affordable. You go
Speaker 1: over to her house. Uh, she gives you a massage. Um,
Speaker 1: she's really strong, excellent whatever. So she lifts me up
Speaker 1: in the yea. So we went pretty regularly and then
Speaker 1: Kim does have a thing for massage porn. That's her
Speaker 1: go to Yeah, like okay, so that's her go to things.
Speaker 1: So I was going to get a massage. I came
Speaker 1: out and I was calling an uber as I'm sitting
Speaker 1: right there with them suits like this. I take my
Speaker 1: phone out and I opened it up and right there
Speaker 1: is an animated gift of massage and Kim Kim. Underneath
Speaker 1: it said enjoy your massage. But still it was filling
Speaker 1: the whole screen and I closed it quick, but we
Speaker 1: were both kind of looking at the phone. So she
Speaker 1: thought I was looking at massage porn. No, you think
Speaker 1: that she thought that. She's well, this is the question
Speaker 1: that would be the conclusion I would go to if
Speaker 1: he watched massage porn before he came in. He's getting
Speaker 1: more out of this massage than just his muscles relaxed. Okay,
Speaker 1: I've never called her again. That was it. I have
Speaker 1: a really close friend as a massage therapist and she's
Speaker 1: had some clients cross the line with that. But it's
Speaker 1: usually even. But even if the guy, a guy can
Speaker 1: get in direction. One of the things she learned in
Speaker 1: school was how to um keep a guy's direction at
Speaker 1: bay there's a spot in the big toe. It's a
Speaker 1: pressure point that you press and the dick just goes.
Speaker 1: I know, I gotta I'll yeah, we gotta teach that
Speaker 1: self defense probably, but anyway, hard to get to thee.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I assaulted but um but yeah,
Speaker 1: so but that doesn't bother her, but it bothers her
Speaker 1: when the client will touch her something in appropriate. So
Speaker 1: what you did was not invasive or I don't think
Speaker 1: it was inappropriate because you weren't like, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: you're okay, nothing on your screen. Kids back to her,
Speaker 1: she should you should tell the massage therapist. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: I had this joke, and I don't know if you
Speaker 1: saw this thing that I said, don't bring it up.
Speaker 1: Time has gone by. Just fucking call her and be
Speaker 1: like we were because we're faded she's going to be
Speaker 1: upset by that does and say, are you in townsge?
Speaker 1: She desperately makes a friend and you guys are making
Speaker 1: it weird. She's great. I feel like I could be
Speaker 1: like Yo brand, so I like massage porn. So I
Speaker 1: sent Matt this text. I guess that would be. And
Speaker 1: now that I think about that conversation, have you probably
Speaker 1: shouldn't say that. I mean, maybe she'll get weird out
Speaker 1: if you say it. I don't personality. I could see
Speaker 1: you like bringing it up like that, but I was like,
Speaker 1: I also think not bringing up at all. It's fine
Speaker 1: if just everyone regular, everyone's regular. Wait, let me clarify
Speaker 1: my massage point in my mind is always Matt giving.
Speaker 1: He's the masseuse. Okay, so it's never like just anybody
Speaker 1: text to clarify, MATTSI dentists sometimes Wow, let's see this.
Speaker 1: These things also put a weird pressure on me because
Speaker 1: when Kim's asked, like, what would be a weird sexual
Speaker 1: fantasy that you haven't explored, and Kim's like, well, Eiffel towering,
Speaker 1: but with two Matts, which is not. That's like, guys,
Speaker 1: cloning is really gonna come around before I'm dead but
Speaker 1: I clone him now, so I get younger Matt and
Speaker 1: older Matt. WHOA, I think you just figured what kind
Speaker 1: of pressure is this putting up? Well, I'm just saying like,
Speaker 1: then there's like no, like, do you mean could it
Speaker 1: only be to Matt's Yes, yes, I made another dick
Speaker 1: up in there, and especially like cloned Matt gets the
Speaker 1: back end. Real Matt, is my mouth's on your dick
Speaker 1: because in Kim's hall out like which I kind of
Speaker 1: agree that like a blow jobs more personally, really expect
Speaker 1: you to suck your deck. Yeah, I'll find pretty much
Speaker 1: anyone but dick in the mouth. Yeah, there's some criteria. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I feel like, isn't isn't it the opposite when
Speaker 1: like women are young, Usually it's like that's been verified
Speaker 1: by I was young and I was done when I
Speaker 1: was young. Were you really don't want to suck anybody another?
Speaker 1: Do you? Um? I guess not. Well, I'm saying is
Speaker 1: like you were like, Okay, it took you all those
Speaker 1: years and you ended up like, hey, I'm I tried
Speaker 1: this three way things right. And again I'm not saying
Speaker 1: men women, I just how do you know? I think
Speaker 1: it's a very fair feeling to have, don't you station
Speaker 1: you have to have a conversation about it because people
Speaker 1: discover kinks in the weirdest of ways. And I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're not born going this is what I like sexually,
Speaker 1: Like you, it's all a journey and it's ebbs and flows.
Speaker 1: Have you ever had something you guys liked sexually and
Speaker 1: then you like took it off the menu because you
Speaker 1: like didn't like it anymore? I don't think so. No
Speaker 1: cool does that, But that probably means we haven't gone
Speaker 1: far enough, right If you are the same kind of
Speaker 1: sex is that? Do you mean like the same position
Speaker 1: as well? Or how do you switch it up? Like
Speaker 1: what's your sex like? Well, like we'll start usually usually
Speaker 1: you're on top. I don't know if it is are
Speaker 1: me on top? But then we've got like certain moves
Speaker 1: where like I know, if my leg's over this way
Speaker 1: and he comes up here, or if my vagina is
Speaker 1: like party down um, but then there's like, you know,
Speaker 1: legover where, like my clips up against his thigh, that's
Speaker 1: like go to Like if I know he's getting close
Speaker 1: and I'm not, I'm like, okay, let's move here. Never
Speaker 1: ended up just humping the guy's leg and he what
Speaker 1: do you shut up just one more second? Oh? I
Speaker 1: love that, Like listen, don't move, Yeah, just shut the
Speaker 1: funk up, don't look at me, and we're all gonna
Speaker 1: be okay, Okay. Let me tell you. A weird thing
Speaker 1: is that we've been together for so long, but we
Speaker 1: still fucking use condoms because I don't want a baby,
Speaker 1: but birth controls. I was getting real weird on it
Speaker 1: against super nauseous and like, oh, I was turning. I
Speaker 1: turned into a psychotic person. I think I was kind
Speaker 1: of a little crazy. I was. My moods were crazy.
Speaker 1: But Matt was the one who's like, you need to
Speaker 1: get off this, like it's making you throw up every month,
Speaker 1: so that well, we'll start without but finished with a
Speaker 1: condom on we always always finished with. And to me,
Speaker 1: I know a lot of guys just pull out method
Speaker 1: or whatever, and I think it's like a brain thing,
Speaker 1: like if the seed is not getting planted, it's like
Speaker 1: I'm just not into it. Yeah, yeah, so that's why,
Speaker 1: So you would never pull out and just go shower
Speaker 1: it just first. Then all of a sudden, my whatever
Speaker 1: in the brain happens doesn't feel as strong, like I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's just like, yo, you didn't put
Speaker 1: the seed near the eggs. On an instinctual level, seed
Speaker 1: slip out? How do we get out of there? So
Speaker 1: both you're both very like cautious about that stuff because
Speaker 1: I have no babies on board? Yeah? Have you? Did
Speaker 1: you have a conversation about that when you first met
Speaker 1: or like, how did you know? I think it kind
Speaker 1: of came midway because there was a point because I've
Speaker 1: always been like, I don't want kids, and then there
Speaker 1: was a point where the fucking clock turned on and
Speaker 1: I couldn't make it shut off, and I kept being
Speaker 1: like that kids, cue o, that kid, we could do that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and luckily that clock died. Okay, because my mind's doing
Speaker 1: it now and I'm like, Christina, what the fuck? Ride
Speaker 1: it out? You're alone, don't even know anybody, seem I
Speaker 1: never turned on, And I feel like, if I'm thirty four,
Speaker 1: I'm safe. Yeah? Is that yours turned back off? You like?
Speaker 1: Kids are ugly now, and I'm like, thank god, I'll
Speaker 1: have a thing now. Friends get pregnant, I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: your number. Let's be honest, you're not going to hang
Speaker 1: out with them, and that that is not an overall
Speaker 1: overarching truth. I do think we, as any of us
Speaker 1: in our mid thirties, know that when people do have kids,
Speaker 1: their priorities have to change. That's just how it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if they friends don't want that would be a problem.
Speaker 1: My best friend just had a baby. I love it though,
Speaker 1: because she's doing all like the normal stuff, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I just live likecariously through you. But I don't have
Speaker 1: to have this baby all the time. But the best
Speaker 1: I think what Kim saying is kind of like the
Speaker 1: I'm going to break up with you before you break
Speaker 1: up with me, because eventually you're not going to have
Speaker 1: time for me. And they can't drink with you for
Speaker 1: a whole year. You're just like, that's what are we
Speaker 1: going to do now? I guess we'll go to col No,
Speaker 1: they can't even do coffee. I guess our parents are
Speaker 1: drinking all kinds of coffee. They were like cigarettes. Well,
Speaker 1: you came out great, so maybe that's why, Oh my god, yeah,
Speaker 1: and the vampire blood drinking. Honestly, like, oh yeah, when
Speaker 1: you said that, I was thinking, I was like, maybe
Speaker 1: ship Kim discovered true blood before it was you might
Speaker 1: have been like tuck over lasting, you have to talk
Speaker 1: over last. I kind of want to go now during
Speaker 1: this mountain and like young forever read, but I sparked
Speaker 1: not in middle school because the amount of energy you
Speaker 1: have is quite impressive, and I am someone who goes
Speaker 1: who doesn't need a lot of sleep. And then even
Speaker 1: I watch you and I go, I couldn't do that,
Speaker 1: So I think it might have been the blood. I
Speaker 1: will say that I do just ride the caffeine train
Speaker 1: all day. So you did start well because you stay
Speaker 1: on the train and so you never crash until you
Speaker 1: go to sleep. Like how many cups are on this train? Okay?
Speaker 1: When we first started dating, I was drinking like twelve
Speaker 1: cups of coffee. But a college time, you know, you're
Speaker 1: doing everything to t cups in a week. It also
Speaker 1: really screwed up my stomach. That sounds like, are you
Speaker 1: just like shopping? I do at least four times a day.
Speaker 1: That's just energy. And that's also the abs. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's like anything to create a stomach. Wow, I'd be
Speaker 1: happy like that if I proved four times. Ay, when
Speaker 1: someone friends tell me they go like a day without it,
Speaker 1: I have, Yeah, I've gone three days that Okay. So
Speaker 1: when I had the first a c L surgery, I
Speaker 1: went a week without pooping. Oh, that's terrible. And the
Speaker 1: enema girl, and to get the first bubble out, it
Speaker 1: was a big deal, like the point where I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm pulling this out of my hands. It was intense.
Speaker 1: But I can't car How do you live? You like
Speaker 1: to get gloves? You just did not cry on the
Speaker 1: toilet naked. I've died to my dog. Like when you
Speaker 1: have a dog sometimes they need help. Get very sad
Speaker 1: and scary. Oh, I've been there because I have stomach
Speaker 1: issues like my whole life I have, And there's been
Speaker 1: so many times where I'm like, I think I'm gon
Speaker 1: have to go in, and then you just go in
Speaker 1: and and you just stand up. You're like like you
Speaker 1: trying to suck it up? Can you just walk around?
Speaker 1: You're like just like sometimes a cigarette, I'll be like, oh,
Speaker 1: and then I did, Oh my god, did you ever
Speaker 1: see that? Is it Bobby and Whitney's reality show where
Speaker 1: you're going with this where are you? Where they're super
Speaker 1: fucked up on coker or whatever it was there? But
Speaker 1: she's saying, yeah, like they didn't they were so out
Speaker 1: of You've got to look up this clip. But it's
Speaker 1: when you're when you can do whatever. It's Bobby talking
Speaker 1: about popping her duty bubble, which was basically because they
Speaker 1: were so fucked up on drugs that he had to
Speaker 1: do that. I had to reach in. Oh boys, they
Speaker 1: just went up to you guys, you ever popkins duty bubble?
Speaker 1: I would probably, yeah, I want that. That's the line
Speaker 1: where I think I would cry, like I'd be like,
Speaker 1: I never wanted you to see this, right right right right,
Speaker 1: keep some stuff. But so okay, that screwed me up man,
Speaker 1: not being able to poo for that long. Um. But yes,
Speaker 1: the coffee, I'm only now one one or two coffees,
Speaker 1: and then I'd probably have like ten cups of tea,
Speaker 1: like black tea. So just you ride that tray. I
Speaker 1: feel like you could catch anything to Matt because you're
Speaker 1: so cheery and smiling and joyful to just like talk
Speaker 1: to and he wouldn't think it's weird because you really
Speaker 1: deliver it with a lot of joy. Well, the blood
Speaker 1: drinking still thinks that's weird, Like it's weird, but you
Speaker 1: tell us a delightfully that I'm like joyous child like well,
Speaker 1: and the funny thing though, is Kim says all kinds
Speaker 1: of things. Or I remember once we were playing the
Speaker 1: festival and it was in like dry desert air, like beforehand,
Speaker 1: she got a nosebleed while we were having sex. Actually
Speaker 1: during your climax, you got a nosebleed. And then she
Speaker 1: took a selfie with the nosebleed on the pillow and
Speaker 1: she's like, I want to post this and say, you know,
Speaker 1: say what it is. And whenever I'm like, Kim, absolutely
Speaker 1: don't post that, and she does. It's the best posts
Speaker 1: we ever have. Like the more I don't want her
Speaker 1: to post it, more people are gonna like it. Right. Well,
Speaker 1: that's a level of honesty and vulnerability. Wow, I like that.
Speaker 1: I was. That's like a neurotic story to me. Wait,
Speaker 1: do you guys ever masturbate then? Because you're always with
Speaker 1: each other, so I guess you don't do yeah, I
Speaker 1: do you? Like? Can you just leave the bus because
Speaker 1: I want to jerk off? I wait till he falls asleep.
Speaker 1: I'm a wait, let's settle. I just sleep a lot.
Speaker 1: If I didn't sit an alarm, I could literally sleep
Speaker 1: twelve hours every single night. That makes sense because honestly,
Speaker 1: like your skin is like a newborn like yeah, you
Speaker 1: really look forever like very Yeah, that's that's hard to achieve.
Speaker 1: Like I feel tired. I've been putting some I creams
Speaker 1: under here to trying to fill in these divots under
Speaker 1: my eyes. It's not spackling my face stackling. So wait,
Speaker 1: what do you so? It's okay, I guess if you're
Speaker 1: together for that long. But there's the question has been
Speaker 1: posed many times, says, and I've asked it myself. Is
Speaker 1: it okay to masterbaan if to a sleeping person? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So I do that all the time. I've done that
Speaker 1: a lot. But that that I'm seeing obviously, you know
Speaker 1: I will strange. It's like on a cot. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: it's a kink of mine. Maybe it is? Can you
Speaker 1: sleep on this cot? All I needed you to do
Speaker 1: is go to bed. If you don't worry about a thing,
Speaker 1: I won't. You won't get taught. That's rude. You can't
Speaker 1: do that. Oh wait, So I do not like an
Speaker 1: in person on a movie. I hate the sound of
Speaker 1: a dude be in it. It's like such like a
Speaker 1: wat Yeah, like the fat thing. Okay, okay, that's how
Speaker 1: ma MASTERBHD, like he said the homeless person over and
Speaker 1: over making a fire. Yeah, I understand that is it
Speaker 1: feels if Yeah, it feels like a little like shiver's
Speaker 1: done your back. Not in a good way, though, I
Speaker 1: understand that. I love master Guy's master bit. I like
Speaker 1: when a master b but I just just hearing it
Speaker 1: and not seeing it. Oh yeah, that's not I ray.
Speaker 1: Have you ever woken up in the other ones masturbating
Speaker 1: You're like, what the fuck? I've woken up to the
Speaker 1: bed moving a little bit. I guess that's you've really
Speaker 1: gotten into it. Like I'm just turning over, just can't sleep,
Speaker 1: don't mind me. Have you ever like used Matt's sleeping body,
Speaker 1: like just like rubbing it against it or something. No,
Speaker 1: but I do smell him first, very deep. I just
Speaker 1: kind of grindup, and then you'll be like, oh, you're up.
Speaker 1: Because I love morning sex. I hate nighttime sex. I
Speaker 1: love and I hate waking up in the morning. So
Speaker 1: you see where the problem is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't believe you hump your leg while you're sleeping.
Speaker 1: And then Kim, Okay, it's this common because Kim always
Speaker 1: says to me all the time, I couldn't even say
Speaker 1: how many times you said this, that when I fall asleep,
Speaker 1: if you ever wanted just to do me while I'm oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I said that to my christ and I would do that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's like my go to thing. I was waking up
Speaker 1: with a guy and I was like, I want I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give you my keys. I want you to come
Speaker 1: in the morning, because I'm not a morning person. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna fall asleep on the couch and i want you
Speaker 1: to start sucking me. Here's my keys, and it's it's
Speaker 1: the hottest hot, so hot. So I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's common, but I know that I feel the exact
Speaker 1: same way. Well, okay, because you know, you only reflect
Speaker 1: on these things from where you're coming from. So to me,
Speaker 1: I like, sex is great and all, but seventeen the
Speaker 1: years in prefer not to be woken up for it.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing about about Kim calls me a
Speaker 1: win for not like being into having sex while she's
Speaker 1: having her period, right because of the blood and all,
Speaker 1: after seventeen years and with a condom. Well, and my
Speaker 1: thing is after seventeen years, maybe you just waited out.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's like I'm wait, can you ever fucked on
Speaker 1: her period? Yes? Okay, but he's not into it and
Speaker 1: it takes a lot of effort. I forget that references
Speaker 1: to I forget that, but it's me. I'm done. I'm
Speaker 1: done because women are horning or on their period. Man, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I guess I do want to give that to her.
Speaker 1: But also it's just like the blood bath, which is
Speaker 1: looking at your pis. Yeah, yeah, it gets clumpy and
Speaker 1: it's not you know, well, if we have to deal
Speaker 1: with it, now you do. But I'm just saying, maybe
Speaker 1: you don't have to deal with it. Maybe you just wait.
Speaker 1: How many days is your period lost? Usually like five
Speaker 1: longer to wait five is normal. And you know there's
Speaker 1: people who have like three days. It's like three days.
Speaker 1: I think it's like three to seven, minds like five
Speaker 1: or six. Could could you imagine seven days? Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean I think when I was like when I
Speaker 1: was first started, it probably wasn't a full seven days.
Speaker 1: But since I started the pill, like I mean, I've
Speaker 1: been on the pill since I was eighteen, and that
Speaker 1: did make it because my periods were painful, so like
Speaker 1: I have a good experience with it, and I even
Speaker 1: went off it actually for a couple of months just
Speaker 1: to check in with my body, and also an acupuncturist
Speaker 1: told me it might change who I'm attracted to, and
Speaker 1: I was like desperately hoping that like it was, wouldn't
Speaker 1: be the only thing that they need, horny, And it
Speaker 1: didn't change anything. It did not change anything. So back, yeah, back,
Speaker 1: I don't believe anything in acupunctures really, just my depression
Speaker 1: and my left running a great tongue and as if
Speaker 1: I have a different knee for running, just my knee.
Speaker 1: Um any chance? Was her name Judy ju No, No
Speaker 1: that would Hey, I'm Judy, Juice said on my bad
Speaker 1: hunt acupunctures ju j j It's but we just thought
Speaker 1: that literally, Yeah, I'm Judy j fred j W d
Speaker 1: y j W Judy Joe. My acupuncturist name is Connie
Speaker 1: Lynn Ma and I went to her too, but I
Speaker 1: cried every time, really had a panic attack. Apparently it is,
Speaker 1: but I didn't enjoy it. Yeah, but yet for me,
Speaker 1: enjoy it. For me, I went for a back pain
Speaker 1: of heads of those twenty year years old and after
Speaker 1: five fifteen years of vegetarianism, I started eating meat. That
Speaker 1: night that's what she and then how do you feel better?
Speaker 1: Day was because this sounds terrible, but I do remember.
Speaker 1: It was like a haze. And we went to Walter's
Speaker 1: Food in Williamsburg and I got salmon, and I ate
Speaker 1: the salmon, and I felt like I immediately had an erection. Okay,
Speaker 1: there was a new blood flow in my right. Fish
Speaker 1: is really rich in proteins that you're not going to get.
Speaker 1: And you know what I mean, Like, wow, I basically
Speaker 1: never eat steak, but when I don't eat me anymore.
Speaker 1: But when I did and I would eat a steak,
Speaker 1: I used to feel like I killed street fight people. Really, yeah,
Speaker 1: like my bo because I I don't eat me because
Speaker 1: I like just like love animals, like I want to
Speaker 1: kiss old dogs on the mouth. But like I, my
Speaker 1: body responds well to it. So I understand that like
Speaker 1: the blood for sure, the acupunctures got you back on salmon.
Speaker 1: So are you still eating an hour? And the thing
Speaker 1: is you can live is a very healthy vegetarian in
Speaker 1: most major metropolitan places in New York City. But when
Speaker 1: you're on the road all the time Texast, Germany, you
Speaker 1: know there's a lot of places where I was just
Speaker 1: eating cheese sandwiches. And guess what also found out in
Speaker 1: lactose intolerant. So I've been eating cheese sandwiches like as
Speaker 1: my go to meals, just not enough protein, Like I
Speaker 1: wasn't eating as a healthy vegetarian. So I was just
Speaker 1: like it was healthy mind, healthy body. I was just
Speaker 1: ready for that. And your back, did your back pain
Speaker 1: go away? Well that was the thing she had after
Speaker 1: all these years of chiropractors, um, physical therapist everything. She
Speaker 1: was the best thing that ever happened my back. So
Speaker 1: I think that's what kind of was, Like she speaks
Speaker 1: the truth. I'm drinking her kool aid. Whatever you tell me,
Speaker 1: like break fifteen years of vegetarianism. Yeah, I heard a
Speaker 1: lot that you have to just follow your body. I
Speaker 1: also I thought I was lactose intolerant for many years,
Speaker 1: and I Keto just taught me I was. I was
Speaker 1: allergic to gluten and I can eat all the cheese
Speaker 1: I want and I flipped it. And also like my
Speaker 1: skin just got so much, like all this stuff came
Speaker 1: out of my skin, Like it's crazy. And I think
Speaker 1: everybody also changes as you get older, So like maybe
Speaker 1: things that you were allergic to, you're not anymore. Things
Speaker 1: you need you don't Anymore's gluten um, Like what can't
Speaker 1: you eat? I mean just I bread, Like literally don't
Speaker 1: even eat bread. Just not anymore. I mean I I
Speaker 1: like I did this weekend. It's like it's not like
Speaker 1: it's gonna kill me, but like I feel a thousand
Speaker 1: times better. Also, I have to take a nap immediately,
Speaker 1: like if I eat a sandwich because I have insulin
Speaker 1: resistance or shuts my body completely down. And so that's
Speaker 1: why I tried keto because it was doctor recommended, and
Speaker 1: it was like this same thing like this doctor I
Speaker 1: had be like not feeling well. I finally found this
Speaker 1: doctor and I'm like, I'll do whatever this guy says.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing but magic. But also now you know,
Speaker 1: if you can't sleep, you're like, I'm just gonna get
Speaker 1: some bread and pass the funk out into well whine.
Speaker 1: I mean, there was just so sugary. Yeah. I don't
Speaker 1: even like sugar, Like a sugar I don't find it
Speaker 1: like yeah, like I had I had a banana and
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, banana was my favorite fruit. Damn
Speaker 1: you look, this is the first time we've scare with you.
Speaker 1: Kim so now you know how it feels with your
Speaker 1: blood stories, bread and line. No reason to spoiler. I'm
Speaker 1: not Jesus so good to know. Yeah, No, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I had a good run. There's other things.
Speaker 1: I really like eggs. That's really my I'm really we're
Speaker 1: surviving on eggs. Can you drink other alcohol? Oh? God? Yeah? Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I drink like a double kettle on the rocks were comics.
Speaker 1: We I mean, I drink with scant of the bottle. Wait,
Speaker 1: I liked you guys, do you even drink before you perform?
Speaker 1: Or yes? But we do and before you Yeah, we
Speaker 1: have a rule though, what's no more than two beers
Speaker 1: or to drinks before because you know, we gotta put
Speaker 1: on a show. Yeah, and we have this rule because
Speaker 1: it went terribly wrong once. It was probably the only
Speaker 1: time we were almost going to break up. But Matt
Speaker 1: doesn't remember any of it. Yeah, we were with me,
Speaker 1: I guess, and he was just not there for that conversation.
Speaker 1: This is so long ago. I can't believe Kim still
Speaker 1: brings it up because it was like, honestly thirteen years ago.
Speaker 1: I would say, and um, but the memorable thing I
Speaker 1: have from it is. We were just a two of
Speaker 1: us touring in an astro vanum the gangster man Evan
Speaker 1: and Uh. I was sitting in the seat and I
Speaker 1: guess I like fell over. We were just parked and
Speaker 1: I fell over into the drivers Wait wait, hold up.
Speaker 1: We played a show. Matt drank way too much, couldn't
Speaker 1: even really play as this is what we used to
Speaker 1: play house shows. The house was like, oh, you guys
Speaker 1: can crash here. As I'm holding Matt, and then Matt
Speaker 1: completely falls to the ground and I'm like, no, we
Speaker 1: have a long drive. We're just going to start the drive,
Speaker 1: which means like usually when you say that, it's you
Speaker 1: don't want to stay at the house because it's really gross.
Speaker 1: But this time I was like, he's way too drunk.
Speaker 1: He's gonna puke everywhere. So I get him in the
Speaker 1: car and the first thing is I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: I'll find the first truck stop, will sleep in the van.
Speaker 1: He passes out in the front seat and I'm just
Speaker 1: like ah, So I go to the laid down on
Speaker 1: the bench seat in the back and he falls over
Speaker 1: and then I just here and he vomits everywhere, and
Speaker 1: then I kind of remember, Kim Young, look what you did.
Speaker 1: Look what you did, And it's honestly, it's in the
Speaker 1: back of my hair, and I'm going, that wasn't me.
Speaker 1: We're the only two people, and I claiming it wasn't
Speaker 1: me as someone puked in my hair. I love drunk logic,
Speaker 1: and so then I was just I got him up,
Speaker 1: I cleaned it up, and I went and this is like,
Speaker 1: you know, four am, I go into the twenty four
Speaker 1: hour restaurant in the truck stop. Truck stops four am
Speaker 1: are like, oh, so I'm sitting down at the counter eating,
Speaker 1: which then I'm just a woman alone in the truck
Speaker 1: stop for just all these guys keep coming up and
Speaker 1: it was so gross, and I was like, like, I
Speaker 1: just do you want to be in a puke filled van?
Speaker 1: I picked the puke build van over the very aggressive truckers,
Speaker 1: and so I went back in and laid down and
Speaker 1: then he woke up in the morning. I think at
Speaker 1: that time I was like, Okay, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: dump his ass, but did it? It's hard, no, but
Speaker 1: I was just very It's I think that might have
Speaker 1: been the angriest I've been with you. And I think
Speaker 1: it was just the situ. It was a lot of factors.
Speaker 1: And if anyone throws up, I'm like, I'll be in
Speaker 1: the next room. Just let me know when you do. Well. See,
Speaker 1: that's how I know things got serious with the point
Speaker 1: i've I've everyone who's been in a serious relationship with
Speaker 1: me has had to clean up my vomb at one time.
Speaker 1: That's like, that's how you get into it. So if
Speaker 1: that day you're like, do you want to take this
Speaker 1: to the next level, Linda area here, Yeah, pretty much
Speaker 1: pretty much was the maddest that you've ever been at Kim.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't don't really get that mad
Speaker 1: at him. I can't think of being wowy more dysfunctional
Speaker 1: than I thought. I didn't know it's possible to be
Speaker 1: with somebody this long enough. I don't think your despectionally,
Speaker 1: I just think this is like you know, sometimes I
Speaker 1: think there's like different levels of like soulmates or connections
Speaker 1: and maybe like they just found like the purest form. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like you don't instigate each other's like anger or any
Speaker 1: like any of the bad stuff. No, I won't make
Speaker 1: that not happen. Did you have great childhoods? What the fuck?
Speaker 1: I had a great childhood. You drank blood, but um,
Speaker 1: I would never redo my childhood. Ah yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I grew up like in the
Speaker 1: middle of nowhere. I grew up in Vermont, graduated public
Speaker 1: school with seventeen people one building. Okay, so you're used
Speaker 1: to a few people close quarters. That actually makes sense.
Speaker 1: Now was my thing? Do you all? Do you all
Speaker 1: appreciate or value privacy? Yes? I love it so much.
Speaker 1: I have no value or anything for that. But I
Speaker 1: think I attribute that a bit too. I shared a
Speaker 1: bedroom with my brother for seventeen years. I went to college.
Speaker 1: I was in the dorms for two years where there
Speaker 1: was atalyst someone in my r and then I got
Speaker 1: my junior year. I got a house with some friends.
Speaker 1: I had my own bedroom, and then I moved in
Speaker 1: with Kim. You had two months of your own room
Speaker 1: in your life. Wow, oh my god. And you're fine.
Speaker 1: You're not like angry or you're not. You don't but
Speaker 1: up on your shoulder or anything. I think to me, again,
Speaker 1: I don't have I have no value on privacy, no
Speaker 1: on private time, on space. You rember for road life.
Speaker 1: You're like you're never like I need to be alone. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what, I was alone a lot in my childhood,
Speaker 1: So that makes sense. I want it's very accurate description.
Speaker 1: But wait, where was your brother he was eight years
Speaker 1: older than me, aund doing stuff. He just left you
Speaker 1: alone the house. Yeah, oh well I requested it. Oh
Speaker 1: so you knew at that age you wanted to be alone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess so I was. I was just alone a lot,
Speaker 1: and I didn't mind it at all. Play with Barbie,
Speaker 1: I would just get lost in my imagination. I would
Speaker 1: always also masurb it a lot. I allway, I love it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I need excessive alone time. Interesting, you had your were
Speaker 1: you alone a lot as a kid? You had your
Speaker 1: bedroom the older kids. So I had a full, huge
Speaker 1: attic bedroom so everyone will be home. But I had
Speaker 1: my own palace upstairs. And I mean I would be
Speaker 1: making movies. I would be like doing like dinosaur theater,
Speaker 1: like the bedrooms, like a pop culture museum. I used
Speaker 1: to set up like a museum, like it still exists.
Speaker 1: It's fully intes Really, you've never seen anything like my mom's.
Speaker 1: This is going to trigger my mom because she's been
Speaker 1: all summer. She's been like come home and clean this up.
Speaker 1: Gets to it. My My goal is just to make
Speaker 1: enough money that I can just slice off the top
Speaker 1: of the house and then have it moved somewhere for
Speaker 1: a museum, which is so nice assistic because who the
Speaker 1: funk wants to come to my museum? And I'm buying
Speaker 1: a ticket and after those hundred people come, what are
Speaker 1: we doing with that waiting until another hundred people want
Speaker 1: to come? It's cool, it's a cool room. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's one bit of full circle I
Speaker 1: think I can take from there? Is that? So the
Speaker 1: thing we're doing coming up next week, which uh you know,
Speaker 1: is we're doing a tenure anniversary for this album Grand Yes,
Speaker 1: but that album which was sort of our seminal album
Speaker 1: that we didn't think would we didn't think would be anything,
Speaker 1: and then it was recorded in my childhood bedroom with
Speaker 1: all my skateboarding posters and stuff that still taved. Parents
Speaker 1: hadn't changed it. Now they have. But maybe there's a
Speaker 1: bit of inspiration, like I don't know what you'll do,
Speaker 1: You'll write your great novel or something in the room
Speaker 1: because for whatever reason, again, our most popular song, the
Speaker 1: Daylight song um was written in that bedroom no heat upstairs,
Speaker 1: in a house in Vermont in January, surrounded by all
Speaker 1: my old preoccupier. That makes because I loved and I
Speaker 1: love bringing people i'm dating like home or like Christina,
Speaker 1: like I love giving them like the tour of my hometown.
Speaker 1: Like my hometown is not even anything special, but there's
Speaker 1: like places that are special to you and it helps
Speaker 1: you to understand, like where that person came from. I
Speaker 1: love meeting people's parents, and not boyfriends. I hate meeting
Speaker 1: their parents, but like friends parents, it really helps me understand.
Speaker 1: But your parents. I've gone home to Michigan with Tommy,
Speaker 1: met his parents, like stayed in their houses. Like it
Speaker 1: helps you learn a lot and understand understanding where someone
Speaker 1: came from. I think person is the way they are. Yeah,
Speaker 1: although I love with Matt, I'm like, you just made
Speaker 1: like your dad's face, Like you just that's something Tommy
Speaker 1: would do. Yeah, even though when you recognize that you're
Speaker 1: doing something you're dad does and she loves her dad,
Speaker 1: love my dadd But I'm like, oh my god, that's
Speaker 1: that's That's been happening a lot to me lately. I'll
Speaker 1: do something, make a sound, and I'm like, that's my mom. Fuck,
Speaker 1: and it's you know it's I love my mom too,
Speaker 1: but it's like you don't want to. I just want
Speaker 1: to be me. I gonna keep being me. I'm just trying.
Speaker 1: I'm just sing Miley, you know. Um alright, so we're
Speaker 1: coming out an hour. I had, well, I had this
Speaker 1: great idea, Tommy had this great idea of playing it
Speaker 1: never have I ever like you do on your podcast,
Speaker 1: And I just sat and tried to think of something
Speaker 1: cool and not never have I ever? Sorry? Would you rather?
Speaker 1: And I was And then I was like, I can't
Speaker 1: think I started it. I go, would you rather have
Speaker 1: a guy that you were going to go on the
Speaker 1: first date with? Die? Or before the first date? This
Speaker 1: is based on personal experience, not just something weird. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: he he I was gonna go on the first date
Speaker 1: recently and he died, and uh, I'm making jokes about
Speaker 1: it so that I don't kill myself. I'm fine. Everyone,
Speaker 1: everything's fine. Everything's really everything's fine. And then I was
Speaker 1: trying to think of one for you, like what your
Speaker 1: worst case scenario? But I didn't want to put it
Speaker 1: in your mouth. Oh no, what were you gonna say? Well,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, or being with someone for seven
Speaker 1: years and then realized they weren't born't that great. I
Speaker 1: didn't know if you would find a defensive hilarious. No,
Speaker 1: it's accurate. Sold you rather? That's your question? Would you
Speaker 1: rather have someone who you on with somebody like with
Speaker 1: someone really special and then they die? Yeah, and you're
Speaker 1: not someone who bonds with some again, this is just
Speaker 1: about me. It's someone you're not that you know, you
Speaker 1: don't bond with people. Often. You meet someone they set
Speaker 1: up this really spectacular first date, but the over the
Speaker 1: top they're also a chef, which is your dream occupation
Speaker 1: as far as dating, and then they dropped dead before
Speaker 1: the first date or with somebody for seven years, and
Speaker 1: then seven years in you ask your friends and family, hey,
Speaker 1: do you think I should break up? And they're like yes,
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, the whole time you hated him,
Speaker 1: you know, seven core years. But in the seven years
Speaker 1: titty pitty, yeah, he had my kids at their best
Speaker 1: and fuck you Stephen. Sorry I'm going off, but wait,
Speaker 1: did you meet Stephen in the end or were you
Speaker 1: like everything's great? And then everyone says like no, yeah,
Speaker 1: I did you know? I gotta say I did. Um
Speaker 1: he showed some true colors. After the breakup, he acted
Speaker 1: like breaking up with him was a crime that he
Speaker 1: needed to take legal action on. So that's all I'll say.
Speaker 1: But he's not a great guy. Um turns out oopsies,
Speaker 1: you know. But then when you're addicted to adderall, it's
Speaker 1: like anyone's great on adderall, so you really can handle
Speaker 1: a lot more. And then you'd go off that you're like,
Speaker 1: oh I was that was terrible situation. Sorry, this is
Speaker 1: light weight. We always end interview. Yea quick question. I
Speaker 1: mean if I left if in the seven years it
Speaker 1: was great, I would take that. I enjoyed it. I
Speaker 1: would take that over the date that never happened. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: because yeah, I feel like the date that never happened
Speaker 1: when you know that could have ended awful. Oh that
Speaker 1: could have been a super shitty But you're saying, like
Speaker 1: a date that never happened, then it becomes a date
Speaker 1: that could never happen, so in a weird way, your
Speaker 1: mind build it up to this could have been the best.
Speaker 1: Yeah idea, what if as opposed to the seven years,
Speaker 1: Like you know, it's not working, like there's no no
Speaker 1: room and again like they're not talking and they don't
Speaker 1: like one another really dislike if I saw him, I'd
Speaker 1: get very triggered and probably cry and fall over. Why
Speaker 1: I would do that? Yeah, yeah, true, true? Do you
Speaker 1: have that fear like you're going to run into him?
Speaker 1: You know what? Sometimes I'm afraid he's in my house
Speaker 1: when I walk in. That's not great. He ain't you know,
Speaker 1: he's not. He's never done anything like that. But like
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be like what, you wouldn't be that surprised.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be honest, Um, it doesn't abusive good callback,
Speaker 1: But like Karin was saying, like her situation, she rarely
Speaker 1: likes people, and to like somebody off the bat and
Speaker 1: then to like bond with them for two weeks and
Speaker 1: they don't understand me a lot. And even Christina was
Speaker 1: like texting you before the first date, I like how
Speaker 1: we're just now making a play for who has it worse? Um? Um,
Speaker 1: I said, I was hanging out with Carl and I
Speaker 1: was like, dude, this guy Carl, because she did his
Speaker 1: podcast that earlier that day. I was like, he like
Speaker 1: gets you, like he understands who you are. He gets you,
Speaker 1: and like that's just so cool because Christina see his
Speaker 1: firsthand everyone trying to like get tap into my psyche.
Speaker 1: But it's I'm very like what you saw, what you get.
Speaker 1: I'm not like when I say something, I'm just saying
Speaker 1: exactly what I mean. I'm from New Jersey, I'm Italian.
Speaker 1: Like there's not it's just exactly. And then people are
Speaker 1: always like, no, there's something deeper there, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I wish I'm not complex. Yeah, until like, so finally
Speaker 1: there was somebody who was also a chef and like
Speaker 1: owns restaurants and is really cool and he had a
Speaker 1: house in Switzerland. That makes the death more Yeah, good
Speaker 1: for you, Carl, Yeah that makes that incredible that you know. Okay,
Speaker 1: but yeah you rather read all right, so bad for Car.
Speaker 1: Right now, he's a legend, So I'm going to get
Speaker 1: a tattoo in his honor aeazing how about you would
Speaker 1: what would you pick? I mean, here's the thing about
Speaker 1: the relationship with the person people don't like. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: had that relationship for a short period. And again I
Speaker 1: was very young when I met Kim, But I don't
Speaker 1: know if it was this way in your relationship. But
Speaker 1: while me and Kim never fight, right, it's like almost
Speaker 1: never happens me and her would fight continuously, like screaming,
Speaker 1: and that's like totally not my m O at all,
Speaker 1: but I do think that like passion and feeling strongly
Speaker 1: like and hate and love, and they're all next to
Speaker 1: each other, so like, all you know is you feel
Speaker 1: really strongly towards this person. Meanwhile everyone around you is like,
Speaker 1: this is terrible. That's not even you. How are you
Speaker 1: even like this with that person? But no, but we
Speaker 1: feel really understand man enough so that when Kim and
Speaker 1: I first got together and we didn't fight, I mentioned
Speaker 1: I was like, I feel like something's missing, But I
Speaker 1: guess that's called baggage, right, right, So that was that
Speaker 1: is behind me. There was that I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: so maybe that seven years could have been a great
Speaker 1: seven years of like passion and things like that. Um
Speaker 1: and then but still I'm also a dweller. I dwell
Speaker 1: on things. Kim knows this, like everything everything. I mean,
Speaker 1: I apologize for anything that he might have thought you
Speaker 1: guys took the wrong way, but we were here. We
Speaker 1: would leave and he'd be like, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: think do you think that they thought I meant this?
Speaker 1: And then he would think about that. I would text
Speaker 1: you probably I thing you really are been out of
Speaker 1: shape about it, right, So that's me in this dwelling situation.
Speaker 1: I could also imagine myself being like, oh, especially if
Speaker 1: you had been like searching for someone who could be
Speaker 1: the one or whatever, and like all the boxes are
Speaker 1: checked and this is the chance I got it, and
Speaker 1: then it's like, oh, I'll never know. It'll be impossible
Speaker 1: to ever know. It's not even like maybe because they
Speaker 1: moved to another country, Well you could go to another
Speaker 1: country to find someone, but this is like, um, so
Speaker 1: it is. It is a tough one of which to take. Um.
Speaker 1: I guess just for pure time efficiency, there's less time
Speaker 1: that goes into the first one are into the death. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you, that's what thanks for. Thanks for helping us.
Speaker 1: Like we had a therapy session. I would feel like
Speaker 1: bad if I didn't bring up So you mentioned. Kim
Speaker 1: and I do a podcast. So we do a band.
Speaker 1: That's that's our our main gig, that's our day job.
Speaker 1: Please plug everything, um and so yeah, and so we're
Speaker 1: huge fans of podcasts. We love you guys in podcast
Speaker 1: and so we're like, let's let's do something. And then
Speaker 1: we're doing this tour coming up and we're doing like
Speaker 1: ten live shows, podcast shows before our show show. Oh
Speaker 1: that's so funny because you guys are so charismatic, and
Speaker 1: I can't say that about every bit you're telling the stories.
Speaker 1: You're not good at us. You guys are too much.
Speaker 1: Now you guys are spirit That means you're great at talking,
Speaker 1: you care about being entertained. You and I feel like
Speaker 1: there's a reason musicians are never allowed on the couch
Speaker 1: on late night shows. Like we've done Kim O and
Speaker 1: fall In a couple of times, and like, just let
Speaker 1: me be on the couch. And again it's more kim
Speaker 1: and ized dynamic like Kim's she'll take it away, she
Speaker 1: can say and I can be her her you know,
Speaker 1: odd couple or whatever, but all the same. So we
Speaker 1: did this thing and we're like, we just wanted to
Speaker 1: find things that got us talking. So we we do
Speaker 1: hypothetical questions. But there's one question that I keep throwing
Speaker 1: out to people, and that keeps making me feel like
Speaker 1: a bad person because me and Kim s it's separate
Speaker 1: the opposite ways. Okay, if there was a pill that
Speaker 1: you could take, yes, I would take it. Sorry that
Speaker 1: made you smarter, But less attractive. Would you take it? Nope,
Speaker 1: I also wouldn't take it. I don't have looks to lose.
Speaker 1: I'm right, I'm just right at the good enough amount
Speaker 1: both smart and attractive. Yeah. Yeah. But also if you're
Speaker 1: if if I'm missing out on the smarts, I'm probably
Speaker 1: happier because the smarter people, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like the more information that I take in as a
Speaker 1: human being as I get older and like you know,
Speaker 1: read and watch documentaries. It's not great. But what if
Speaker 1: you could just I don't know, one, let me just
Speaker 1: lay it out there. I'm super dumb, so I'm any
Speaker 1: type of smarts I would like that would just help me, Like, okay,
Speaker 1: we First of all, Kim didn't even have to think
Speaker 1: about it, she answered it, I would be less attractively smarter,
Speaker 1: which again that should be the answer. I couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: I couldn't. And again I don't put like tons of
Speaker 1: value and don't put all my self worth and looks
Speaker 1: or anything like. No, I mean I've feared going bald,
Speaker 1: Like it's really like that's the same kind of thing,
Speaker 1: like of obsessing just walking in the mirror being like
Speaker 1: is it is it changing? And that's since I was
Speaker 1: like twenty five years old kind of held on right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for me luckily. But it shouldn't matter. It shouldn't matter,
Speaker 1: but it does to me. You know, I don't I
Speaker 1: think I would be happier just sticking with what I got. Well,
Speaker 1: dumb people are happier, I feel. I think that's the
Speaker 1: only to be truly happy it is to be dumb. Yeah,
Speaker 1: be a little dumb. I do agree with that. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: I'm like people, I love Atlantis Morisset and like the
Speaker 1: one I think that she's like so troubled because she's
Speaker 1: like really overthinking a lot of stuff. Yeah, so you
Speaker 1: just got minimalized minimalized. Well, the thing is, like we
Speaker 1: in our book, I presented a scenario in which, like
Speaker 1: I always think, if I could be um hot, be
Speaker 1: smarter or funnier, if I'm just picking one and not
Speaker 1: losing any I would absolutely pick funnier or smarter over
Speaker 1: more attractive any day of the week. But I can't
Speaker 1: lose any of the looks. That's that's where you got
Speaker 1: me on that past the sweet song the pill. If
Speaker 1: you flip the pill, be percent better looking, but twenty
Speaker 1: five percent less attractive. Dumber. Yes, so the opposite, Like
Speaker 1: I wouldn't take that. I wouldn't say that either. You
Speaker 1: would happiness. Honestly, I stop overthinking so much ship and
Speaker 1: I'd be so much hotter that people will be nicer
Speaker 1: to me and life will be easier. I would take
Speaker 1: the pill, yeah, because I feel like I'm smart enough
Speaker 1: as well, so I wouldn't want to lose that, and
Speaker 1: like I do like being smart. But yeah, I couldn't
Speaker 1: just all around, I would need to Honestly, maybe people
Speaker 1: are not a lot of times. I know a lot
Speaker 1: of people that are extremely attractive and very smart. But
Speaker 1: I also know a lot of people are extremely attractive
Speaker 1: and kind of dumb, and they're the happiest ones. And
Speaker 1: you completely can see how that happens. And I know
Speaker 1: a lot of comedians complaining about comedians who are too
Speaker 1: attractive because you didn't even have to try, Like why
Speaker 1: why did you get good at this? If you're bad,
Speaker 1: you're bad? How bad you're bad? Comedy? It works against you.
Speaker 1: If you're the hotter you are in comedy, it actually
Speaker 1: works against you. It's the one part of the entertainment
Speaker 1: business distracting and people it is distracting you talk and
Speaker 1: it's like, well that's annoying. Yeah, I gotta wear a
Speaker 1: big shirt. Yeah, it works against you for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean the thing is like, I get why there
Speaker 1: is some people who didn't develop other skills, because again
Speaker 1: we're talking about we're not talking about just generally attractive.
Speaker 1: We're talking about the like league people better I do.
Speaker 1: Like I've met people is like like walk iron this
Speaker 1: that is your best friend. It's really irritating, like a
Speaker 1: lot of walking around with Tommy. I think it's because
Speaker 1: even like, the thing is like, I don't think I
Speaker 1: don't think I'm unattractive by any means. I think I'm
Speaker 1: above the average. However, walking around like a ten isn't experience.
Speaker 1: I have a friend who's a ten's beautiful. She's like
Speaker 1: and if i've it's the most invisible I've ever felt
Speaker 1: like when I walk around with her, because she's so beautiful,
Speaker 1: people skid him stuff. Yeah, people give her stuff to
Speaker 1: my friend. Actually, why am I being charged? And she's
Speaker 1: got dumb though she's really smart and you're really smart. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Tommy is getting his fucking PhD. We get it. It
Speaker 1: is funny because it's funny because it doesn't necessarily even
Speaker 1: land on a on a sexual thing because and I
Speaker 1: noticed this because my friend convinced me to go into
Speaker 1: the rick Owens store in Soho and uh store. But
Speaker 1: it's like rick Owens does like a very sort of
Speaker 1: dark kind of gothy fashion design. Oh I need to
Speaker 1: get into It's really cool, but it's super high price,
Speaker 1: like and so I went in and again it is
Speaker 1: like all marble, it's like playing classical music. It's like
Speaker 1: out of an snl SK Yeah yeah yeah, and like
Speaker 1: two of the most beautiful men I've ever seen are
Speaker 1: just like guys come to help. And I see again
Speaker 1: how the spell works where I found myself buying a
Speaker 1: five thousand dollar jacket, which once I walked out, I
Speaker 1: immediately like reality flashed back to me and I returned
Speaker 1: the fucking jacket. Let me tell you that. No, no,
Speaker 1: like within tenn but it was like there and these
Speaker 1: guys were like, let's just try things on, and I'm
Speaker 1: just like trying all kinds, you know, and you look fantastic,
Speaker 1: and I just wanted to please them. I wanted to
Speaker 1: like mink shaw ye oh that's right. Yeah, that guy
Speaker 1: try to put me in a garbage bag. So yeah,
Speaker 1: my favorite Elle story. Cheat. Yeah, in the room. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he literally put a fan on it that I was
Speaker 1: blowing in the wind. And then and then he and
Speaker 1: then I started, here's this cape. Yeah, he put this
Speaker 1: like weird like a more like this like non shaped
Speaker 1: thing on me, and I go, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: just feel like I'm covering too much on my body
Speaker 1: and he goes, we can fix it, and then gave
Speaker 1: me a leather jacket to put over the trash. And
Speaker 1: if that doesn't sum up l A, I don't know
Speaker 1: what does. So it's my favorite l A story. He
Speaker 1: usually walked out like I don't feel like me. He's like,
Speaker 1: you're right, we can still see your arms. Let those
Speaker 1: away little less? You like, it's like better, let's corinn.
Speaker 1: Thank god he's dealing with me, not someone who doesn't
Speaker 1: love himselves like I was, like, like people would have
Speaker 1: left that story like cutting their wrists like that was
Speaker 1: that was a lot I would definitely And then I'd
Speaker 1: wake up with at six am and all right, so
Speaker 1: we're gonna listen to your podcast. It's called the Matt
Speaker 1: King Podcast because we're really bad at names. So yeah,
Speaker 1: we named our band Matt and Kim yeah, and we're
Speaker 1: going to you're going on tour, well, depending when this
Speaker 1: comes out, we're going on tour October, all right, and
Speaker 1: we can go Matt and Kim dot com am I
Speaker 1: just guessing. I'm is it ampersand or A and D
Speaker 1: spelled out and a man. Ampersan screwed us for many
Speaker 1: years because graphically, students, yeah, look great, but church engines
Speaker 1: bainever existence. And then on Instagram you're not Kim. Okay,
Speaker 1: you guys get it. You know you have a new
Speaker 1: single out right now, go go yes, how do you
Speaker 1: how do you say it? Like you say go go
Speaker 1: go go go go go go, go, go go go.
Speaker 1: I know I like the emphasis on the second go
Speaker 1: just because it's kind of go. Like I got scared.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, guys see them, and I gotta say,
Speaker 1: just as a personal thing, I have seen you live
Speaker 1: and it is one of the most fun. Like you
Speaker 1: don't even need to have a drink. I know you
Speaker 1: guys love it and encourage it. You don't need to
Speaker 1: that's how much fun it is. But like get ready
Speaker 1: to like where sneakers get ready to jump and stuff.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of movement which I wasn't ready for
Speaker 1: so now I'm ready for it. Bring you Barnica, Yeah,
Speaker 1: bring your Nica. Thank you so much Matt and Kim
Speaker 1: for coming on. Guys, We Fun. This has been Guys
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