Speaker 1: Last season, when we were talking about the sketchy world
Speaker 1: of MLMs, we heard a bit from my Aunt Amy
Speaker 1: about her vast experience with them, which started early in
Speaker 1: our childhoods, going to sales parties at our relatives houses. Remember,
Speaker 1: Aunt Amy, our house was conservative as far as decorating
Speaker 1: was concerned, and these other ladies lived in houses that
Speaker 1: were gilded. And they have a lot of mirrors, and
Speaker 1: a lot of the sculpted shag carpet in very deep
Speaker 1: and odd colors. Number faux flowers kind of around the room,
Speaker 1: a lot of faux iv things like, yes, a lot
Speaker 1: of the faux flowers, a lot of black velvet paintings, yes,
Speaker 1: black velvet paintings of horses. Amy, bless her heart, was
Speaker 1: so generous last season with me poking and prodding at her. Well,
Speaker 1: our collective histories involved having those kinds of sketchy, pyramid
Speaker 1: shaped companies. I interviewed her three times at length. You
Speaker 1: can tell my gift of gab is hereditary, and each
Speaker 1: time we talked I struggled to keep her on the
Speaker 1: topic of MLMs. She had an entirely different story she
Speaker 1: was dying to talk about, and to her, this other
Speaker 1: story was much bigger than the one I was chasing
Speaker 1: about Mary Kay or Melaluca or the life Vantage vitamins
Speaker 1: she was selling. Amy wanted to talk about an epic
Speaker 1: life and death battle she had gone through, one that
Speaker 1: at the time I was having trouble making sense of,
Speaker 1: and one that I thought had nothing to do with MLMs.
Speaker 1: So we cut it all out of that earlier episode,
Speaker 1: those hours of tape of Amy's story. Amy's troubles are
Speaker 1: actually part of something each and every one of us
Speaker 1: inhabiting a naturally flawed human body can relate to. For Amy,
Speaker 1: this started about fifteen years ago. We knew something was
Speaker 1: I was sick with something, but we kept thinking that
Speaker 1: it was because I had been diagnosed with lyme disease,
Speaker 1: and so I kept pinning it on that, but not
Speaker 1: really knowing what it was that was bringing me down.
Speaker 1: I I had thyroid issues. I had just exhaustion all
Speaker 1: the time. I I was sick. I had gotten oral herpies,
Speaker 1: and I was so sick with that that I, in fact,
Speaker 1: when I went to the doctor and was tested with
Speaker 1: that the first time, he said, I have no idea
Speaker 1: how you're actually upright. I've never seen anybody with that
Speaker 1: much of this virus in their body before I didn't
Speaker 1: have an immune system. I just kept picking everything up
Speaker 1: and getting really really sick with it, but then just
Speaker 1: keep I kept driving myself and driving myself. At that time,
Speaker 1: Amy had just had two daughters two years apart, and
Speaker 1: as is often the case in real life and lifetime movies,
Speaker 1: that's when people often get divorced. And then having my
Speaker 1: husband leave meant that I had to push even harder,
Speaker 1: and so I did, and that then made me think that, well,
Speaker 1: maybe that's why I'm tired. And so it was it
Speaker 1: was little that you were working so much, and yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. I had two babies. So I kept thinking
Speaker 1: that while making excuses that it was just because I
Speaker 1: was so tired, it was because I was drinking too
Speaker 1: much coffee, it was because I was doing all these
Speaker 1: other things and I had two little, tiny babies and
Speaker 1: that and going through the divorce and everything. So I
Speaker 1: just figured it was all stressed. As the years went
Speaker 1: by and the stress got a little bit less or changed,
Speaker 1: I guess it's probably a better way to say it
Speaker 1: than I realized that it wasn't just stressed. There was
Speaker 1: something else happening. Because my eyes were going bad. I
Speaker 1: was having a ton of pain, a lot of hormonal
Speaker 1: things go on. I was still very very steady with
Speaker 1: my cycle, but my psycle what was going like crazy.
Speaker 1: It was getting really really bad, and I could tell
Speaker 1: that my hormones were fluctuating a lot. And then I
Speaker 1: was in my thirties at the time, so when I
Speaker 1: would go to the doctor, they would say, oh, well,
Speaker 1: you're just starting menopause. So yeah, so that was really sad, honestly,
Speaker 1: But I was sad anyway. I knew there was something
Speaker 1: else that was still lurking and that I was still
Speaker 1: fighting something way bigger, and I could feel it. I
Speaker 1: just couldn't put my finger on it. Well, I put
Speaker 1: my finger on it because I knew where I thought
Speaker 1: it was, but I couldn't figure out what it was
Speaker 1: that was actually growing inside of me. So it was
Speaker 1: just it was very, very strange and very bad. Amy
Speaker 1: went to doctors mds and d os and chiropractors and
Speaker 1: natural paths people and weird basements where they treat maladies
Speaker 1: with all kinds of unregulated stuff. Everyone found something, but
Speaker 1: no one really got to the problem. And then finally
Speaker 1: three years ago, Amy found a gynecologist who said, I
Speaker 1: know what that is. Do you want going to take
Speaker 1: it out? It was an endometrial phenomenon. They it was
Speaker 1: endometrial tissue that had been trapped in the transfers fish
Speaker 1: of my body in the scar and so from the
Speaker 1: C section and then it they it goes like a
Speaker 1: little crazy when that happens, and when it's trapped. Amy
Speaker 1: calls this thing that her gynecologists removed, this painful thing
Speaker 1: in her abdomen. It when she talks about it, it
Speaker 1: says if it was alive, a parasite of sorts. She
Speaker 1: assigns it responsibility for many of her ailments. And when
Speaker 1: I heard her talk about it, it seemed, I don't know,
Speaker 1: kind of unbelievable. I mean, she did use the word phenomenon.
Speaker 1: But then I looked it up and I can tell
Speaker 1: you it is real. It may not be the root
Speaker 1: cause of all of Amy's complaints, but it does cause pain,
Speaker 1: severe pain, and it is rare, and it is not
Speaker 1: well studied, and it has a name, extra pelvic endometriosis.
Speaker 1: Before I tell you more about it, you need to
Speaker 1: know what regular endometriosis is, and you should know what
Speaker 1: it is. Just in general anyway, so you can be
Speaker 1: a more informed friend, relative, or lover to your pals
Speaker 1: who are suffering. Endometriosis is a disease where a tissue
Speaker 1: that should grow inside of a uterus finds other homes
Speaker 1: nearby outside of one. Think about that. Say your stomach
Speaker 1: lining just decided to creep outside your tummy and wrap
Speaker 1: itself around your pancreas, or if your lung tissue decided
Speaker 1: to hug your heart to death. So that's regular endometriosis,
Speaker 1: uterine tissue going rogue and finding another home nearby, usually
Speaker 1: an ovaries and such, and then it proliferates, causing severe
Speaker 1: pain and reproductive difficulties and cancer and whatnot. Amy had
Speaker 1: a rarer sort called extra politic endometriosis, and it grows
Speaker 1: in stranger lands like her c section scar. Endometriosis itself,
Speaker 1: though it's a word you've probably heard, is still a
Speaker 1: debated diagnosis, often referred to in scholarly papers as a theory.
Speaker 1: But keep in mind there's more than one gender gap
Speaker 1: in science. Anatomical researchers who are still predominantly male didn't
Speaker 1: start studying female reproductive anatomy in any serious way until
Speaker 1: halfway through the last century, no one fully autopsy to
Speaker 1: clitterists until nineteen ninety eight, and to this day, about
Speaker 1: forty seven percent of studies on animal genitalia are focused
Speaker 1: solely on males. Forty four percent have a mix of
Speaker 1: males and females, and that means that less than ten
Speaker 1: percent are just looking at female anatomy. Ten percent other
Speaker 1: fuckers anyway. So that's a major part of what was
Speaker 1: going on with Amy. But that fifteen year stretch, fifteen
Speaker 1: years of discomfort, not knowing that long more, Amy had
Speaker 1: to wage with dozens of experts to finally get just
Speaker 1: one diagnosis after already having been diagnosed with lynees disease,
Speaker 1: which is another illness no one totally understands. I think
Speaker 1: all of that fundamentally changed the way Amy looks at
Speaker 1: her body, her health, the medical establishment, and the world
Speaker 1: around her. She was in pain for a very long
Speaker 1: time and no one believed her she was suffering, and
Speaker 1: people told her it was stress or more likely and
Speaker 1: vaguely lady problems. Amy was sick of how the mainstream
Speaker 1: doctoring world treated her, and that's what drove her into
Speaker 1: the willing arms of alternative therapies, which brought her to MLMs,
Speaker 1: not the makeup ones, the ones that claim to have
Speaker 1: products and cures you can't find at the doctor for ailments.
Speaker 1: Your doctor won't diagnose you with those make up about
Speaker 1: a third of the MLM industry. I wanted to have
Speaker 1: a much more natural environment in my home, and I
Speaker 1: could associate the chemicals that I'd been using with the
Speaker 1: issues that I was having, and so I was seeking
Speaker 1: out a cleaner environment in my home chemical less chemicals,
Speaker 1: I guess the Young Living Oils. One of the things
Speaker 1: that's really good about that company is that they are
Speaker 1: so pure that you can ingest most of the oils.
Speaker 1: And so, I mean, nobody recommends that you do that
Speaker 1: sort of thing, because you can hurt yourself that way too.
Speaker 1: But in natural medicine, there are, you know, certain guidelines
Speaker 1: you can follow and you are able to use those
Speaker 1: particular oils because of that. And so that was another
Speaker 1: thing that was another company that Grandma Grandpa invested in
Speaker 1: because you could ingust them because they were so pure,
Speaker 1: because they came with all the education and all of
Speaker 1: the guarantees, and that sort of thing. Grandma and Grandpa
Speaker 1: refers to my grandparents, Amy's parents I was visiting them
Speaker 1: last year while looking into MLMs, and I asked my
Speaker 1: grandma to show me for oil stash. Where are you're
Speaker 1: young living oils? Yeah, you can. You show them to me.
Speaker 1: Sit tight, I'll show you. So I don't bring them
Speaker 1: all out or that. Okay, No, I need to use
Speaker 1: them for stuff, so I mix them up. I remember
Speaker 1: when I first got a job that required me to
Speaker 1: fly on airplanes, not even that frequently. Grandma gave me
Speaker 1: a homemade bottle of Thieves oil, which is a mix
Speaker 1: of clove and cinnamon and eucalyptus and some other stuff,
Speaker 1: and it was reportedly used a lot during the Middle
Speaker 1: Ages to combat bubonic plague. Thieves you put on. What
Speaker 1: we do is we put it on like a collar
Speaker 1: or something like that when you're out places. Then you
Speaker 1: don't usually pick up anybody's colds or anything. We don't.
Speaker 1: We haven't had a cold this year, we haven't had
Speaker 1: the flu in years, and so we're very blessed because
Speaker 1: we were able to use things like that. You know, lying, Oh, Grandpa,
Speaker 1: life's langley other ones too, see other oils truly, and
Speaker 1: I think he's got a lang ling in one of
Speaker 1: these two ciphers that joy one how to mix the
Speaker 1: young living oils were for you know, the frequencies and
Speaker 1: the and the medicinal value, therapeutic value of the oils.
Speaker 1: Whether what are frequencies? For a second, I thought you
Speaker 1: were talking about bowel movements. What are you talking about
Speaker 1: with frequencies? Frequencies? The oils all have their own frequency. Okay,
Speaker 1: bear with us here. This is where things start to
Speaker 1: get a little huh. You know, like um quantum physics,
Speaker 1: where like the chair you're sitting in has the components
Speaker 1: that make up that chair have frequencies on this planet,
Speaker 1: and so you can read the frequencies through quantum physics.
Speaker 1: And so the oils actually have an active frequency. And
Speaker 1: so when they touch your body, the reason that their
Speaker 1: therapeutic is because of the way your body responds to
Speaker 1: those frequencies. And so it's not just in a romotherapy,
Speaker 1: it's actually they can they have the ability to give
Speaker 1: therapy to your system. That's arguable and most medical forums
Speaker 1: because there's no way to really quantify it, but you
Speaker 1: can't deny, just like we can't deny that mass has
Speaker 1: a frequency. Any you know, a rock, a certain type
Speaker 1: of rock, granite has its own frequency. That's what makes
Speaker 1: it grantit, you know what I mean. So it's that
Speaker 1: type of scenario where you're you're dealing with the pure
Speaker 1: oil and using the pure oil to in massage therapy
Speaker 1: and aromatherapy and in any kind of therapeutic application. So
Speaker 1: I have no idea what you're talking about. Is this
Speaker 1: stuff in the literature for those If you want the
Speaker 1: Young Living Oils book just to peruse, how I'm back,
Speaker 1: but I got a copy When Amy said I want
Speaker 1: it back. It was accompanied by a look that said,
Speaker 1: this book is not leaving my site, which made me
Speaker 1: even more curious than I already was about these frequencies
Speaker 1: and what Amy and my grandma actually do with all
Speaker 1: those oils. It was all right there in the book,
Speaker 1: and I didn't think she was gonna let me take it.
Speaker 1: So we got our own. Yeah, we did. Welcome Dan
Speaker 1: to the program. Dan Galucci is the love of my
Speaker 1: life and also my business partner and so also a
Speaker 1: producer and reporter on this show, and he'll be looking
Speaker 1: into the legal side of things. Anyways, we have a book. Now,
Speaker 1: let me read the title of it. Okay, it's the
Speaker 1: Essential Oils Desk Reference eighth edition by Life Science Products
Speaker 1: and Publishing, which is Young Living Oils Publishing Company. Okay,
Speaker 1: is it like a catalog? It is, no, no new
Speaker 1: It's in the form of an encyclopedia. The book is heavy,
Speaker 1: six hundred and forty spiral bound pages, and it's inscribed
Speaker 1: to all those who seek yesterday's wisdom and today's discovery.
Speaker 1: After all, it is their hearts and minds that turn
Speaker 1: to the knowledge within these pages. There's a photo collage
Speaker 1: on page two of fields of lavender, a microscope and
Speaker 1: then up papyrus with hieroglyphs and a bible open to Exodus,
Speaker 1: and on the first page of the first chapter it reads,
Speaker 1: essential oils are substances that definitely deserve the respect of
Speaker 1: a proper educ Users should have a basic knowledge about
Speaker 1: the safety of the oils, and having a basic understanding
Speaker 1: of the chemistry of essential oils is very helpful. However,
Speaker 1: it is difficult to find this knowledge taught in universities
Speaker 1: or private seminars. Chemistry books are difficult to understand for
Speaker 1: most people, and they don't usually address the specific chemistry
Speaker 1: of essential oils. There is very little institutional information, knowledge
Speaker 1: and training on essential oils and the scientific approach to
Speaker 1: their uses. I think that's their manifesto right here, right,
Speaker 1: and so that's that is the knowledge that you can
Speaker 1: gain about essential oils. Is this book? This is all
Speaker 1: you got. What's concerning about it is that my aunt
Speaker 1: and my grandma like this work and it's like it's
Speaker 1: the it's their health Bible. Well you've gone through the book, right, Actually, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've read the whole thing. Okay, so is there any
Speaker 1: is there anything good? I mean interesting or like did
Speaker 1: you learn anything? Everything is qualified in a way I think,
Speaker 1: probably written to be obscure a little bit, like we
Speaker 1: think maybe this does that, you know, And so it's
Speaker 1: hard to read because it reads like propaganda, right, But
Speaker 1: I also am not someone who minds reading textbooks, right,
Speaker 1: And they said up front in the very first chapter
Speaker 1: that that's no good, no fun, and nobody likes doing it,
Speaker 1: which is what brings you to this book. So I'll
Speaker 1: already off the bat like I'm not the intended audience
Speaker 1: for this, And I mean we should point out again
Speaker 1: it was made by the manufacturers of these essential oils
Speaker 1: that they're talking it's a sales manual, yeah, and not
Speaker 1: just a sales manual for any old company. It's a
Speaker 1: sales manual for an MLM. In it, they talk about
Speaker 1: neurotoxins and antioxidants, alkalinity, and oxidative stress. The most perplexing
Speaker 1: chapter addresses those frequencies Amy was talking about, almost right
Speaker 1: off the bat. It states, once studying the topics of vibration,
Speaker 1: frequency and energy, it is a wise man or woman
Speaker 1: who realizes he or she does not know everything. It
Speaker 1: then goes on to say so much nonsense about how everything,
Speaker 1: including humans, emits a frequency measured in megaherts, everything except
Speaker 1: canned food that has zero. Somehow, apparently there's an ideal
Speaker 1: human frequency, a healthy one, and the lower your frequency,
Speaker 1: the sicker you can be. Essential oils have a high frequency.
Speaker 1: So if you put them on your body in specific places,
Speaker 1: or inhale them, or ingest them, or take a bath
Speaker 1: in them. While we're just throwing ideas out, if you
Speaker 1: use the oils, your frequency will increase a voila, you
Speaker 1: will be well. I felt like such an asshole, like
Speaker 1: an unwise woman who thinks she knows everything while I'm
Speaker 1: reading this, so I had our producer, Lyrah, take a
Speaker 1: look to make sure I wasn't alone, just initial thoughts. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: my first thought, I don't know if this is what
Speaker 1: you're specifically asking about, is like the way it's laid
Speaker 1: out is it looks like your high school chemistry book
Speaker 1: looks like a textbook. Right second paragraph, there's a sentence
Speaker 1: that really bothered me. That says, who is to argue
Speaker 1: with German biophysicist Fritz Albert pop author of one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty scientific studies. I just like, why is this
Speaker 1: like textbook? Nagging me as if that like quantity means right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do they say in here why it's better to have
Speaker 1: a higher frequency, or what frequency you're supposed to have,
Speaker 1: or this is a normal range. And then here's this
Speaker 1: chart shows you if you keep going lower, you get
Speaker 1: a flu when you're at this frequency, you get a cold,
Speaker 1: and candida at this frequency, epstein bar at this frequency,
Speaker 1: and then you get cancer. Okay, so holding Okay, It
Speaker 1: says if you hold a cup of coffee, your frequency
Speaker 1: goes down to fifty eight MILLI hurts, and and that's
Speaker 1: when you get a cold. They're claiming here, um that
Speaker 1: by manipulating the frequencies of someone's body, which you have
Speaker 1: to believe is the thing in the first place. Right
Speaker 1: then you can prevent cancer, get or get rid of cancer.
Speaker 1: UM cure cancer, stringing together words into sentences that don't
Speaker 1: make sense to anybody, you know. So what I found
Speaker 1: is this um this disturbing page that has a out
Speaker 1: of place graphic at the top. If you ask me
Speaker 1: what's the graphic, it's a map of the world with
Speaker 1: every young living corporate far or partner or distillery or
Speaker 1: international office or global headquarters marked on it. And right
Speaker 1: below that is this troubling stuff. Because of the research
Speaker 1: being conducted by many scientists and doctors, the healing power
Speaker 1: of essential oils is again gaining prominence. Today, it has
Speaker 1: become evident that we have not yet found permanent solutions
Speaker 1: for dreaded diseases such as zeca and ebola viruses, hantavirus, AIDS, HIV,
Speaker 1: and new strains of tuberculosis and influenza like bird and
Speaker 1: swine flu Essential oils may assume an increasingly important role
Speaker 1: in combating new mutations of bacteria, viruses, and fungi. More
Speaker 1: and more researchers are undertaking serious clinical studies on the
Speaker 1: use of essential oils to combat these types of diseases.
Speaker 1: A vast body of anecdotal evidence suggest that those who
Speaker 1: use essential oils are less likely to contract infectious diseases. Moreover,
Speaker 1: oil users who do contract an infectious illness tend to
Speaker 1: recover faster than those using antibiotics. I hate that I
Speaker 1: have to say this out loud, but there are reasons
Speaker 1: why you don't use anecdotal evidence obviously, and that you
Speaker 1: use studies. A study of lemon verbina and lemon grass
Speaker 1: essential oil against the bacteria that cause ulcers cause the
Speaker 1: scientists to marvel about the power of lemon grass. But
Speaker 1: what did it do? It doesn't say, what was it effective? Act?
Speaker 1: It doesn't say, And also who determined that the scientists
Speaker 1: were marveling at this information? It seems very subjective. The
Speaker 1: second half of the book is a reference guide for
Speaker 1: every ailment imaginable and the corresponding essential oil that should
Speaker 1: be used to alleviate it, including bedbugs, heart attacks, and anorexia.
Speaker 1: Because of all these wild claims, the FDA sent out
Speaker 1: a bunch of really long letters back in twenty fourteen,
Speaker 1: warning letters, that's what they're officially called, Telling Young Living
Speaker 1: and Dotera. That's another MLM selling essential oils, but with
Speaker 1: less reliance on the Bible to knock it off. Quote.
Speaker 1: Your consultants promote many of your young living essential oil
Speaker 1: products for conditions such as, but not limited to, viral infections,
Speaker 1: including ebola, Parkinson's disease, autism, diabetes, hypertension, cancer, heart disease.
Speaker 1: The list goes on, and then they included some quotes
Speaker 1: from some distributors websites. Ebola virus cannot live in the
Speaker 1: presence of cinnamon bark. Research shows that components of Frankencense
Speaker 1: oil have an anti tumor effect on the following types
Speaker 1: of cancer cells, causing them to implode parostate cancer cells,
Speaker 1: colon cancer cells, cervical cancer cells, bladder cancer cells, leukemia cells,
Speaker 1: melanoma cells, and brain tumor cells. All you need is
Speaker 1: frankencense oil. Essential oils weren't the only target of those letters.
Speaker 1: In twenty fourteen, another company, Natural Solutions, was saying some
Speaker 1: pretty crazy shit too. My name is Rima Elabo, MD
Speaker 1: I am the medical director of the Natural Solutions Foundation.
Speaker 1: Nanosilver ten parts per million has been shown in laboratories
Speaker 1: and in clinical environments around the world to inactivate viruses
Speaker 1: like the HIV virus. The hepatitis B and C viruses,
Speaker 1: influenza viruses like H five N one, and ebola virus.
Speaker 1: You've heard about ebola, and you know that it's a
Speaker 1: singularly deadly virus. Some say a weaponized virus. Now ebola
Speaker 1: is uniquely I mean, it's important to know that FDA
Speaker 1: has been going after companies like this for this thing
Speaker 1: since the thirties. And one of those companies, like Young
Speaker 1: Living Oil was was a MLM. It was the first
Speaker 1: MLM of all time. That company was Neutralite and they
Speaker 1: sold a vitamins are up back in the thirties. They're
Speaker 1: also the company where the founders of AMWEG got their start.
Speaker 1: They were blatant snake oil salesman. They put people who
Speaker 1: had no medical background at all into drug stores wearing
Speaker 1: white lab coats and like you know, glasses and the
Speaker 1: whole like just and doctor gear. Um. And then they
Speaker 1: those people would be carrying a clipboard and they'd be
Speaker 1: in front of a in cap that had like Vitus
Speaker 1: six on it or whatever, and um, they would go
Speaker 1: up to people and say, excuse me, can I ask
Speaker 1: you a few questions so that I can give you
Speaker 1: a diagnosis about your your current the current state of
Speaker 1: your health. I mean there was nothing that Neutralite couldn't
Speaker 1: cure short fat ball. Yeah. You like, notice one woman
Speaker 1: with three children in her shopping cart. Right, you're like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: are you bombed? I bet you're bombed? And you know,
Speaker 1: sleep well? Right, you look like you're suffering from insomnia.
Speaker 1: But I've got your husband's suck, Like, does your husband suck?
Speaker 1: And can we call him to make sure he makes
Speaker 1: sure you take this well? And that's the thing is,
Speaker 1: like the FDA did actually go after Neutralite. They were
Speaker 1: one of the first vitamin company or you know, supplement
Speaker 1: companies that the FDA actually went after, and they went
Speaker 1: pretty far. They started raiding their warehouses. They started going
Speaker 1: into those drug stores and pulling all of the product
Speaker 1: off the shelf in front of the lab coated sales associates.
Speaker 1: This has been going on forever and it's been the problem.
Speaker 1: I don't understand. Here's what I don't understand. Letters go
Speaker 1: out twenty fourteen. We ask in twenty nineteen, hey can
Speaker 1: we talk about this because this shit's still going on
Speaker 1: and you guys know it's a problem, and you know
Speaker 1: it's still going on, and they say, a we can't
Speaker 1: talk about it because it's still going on. And b
Speaker 1: here's the most recent communication we can send you from
Speaker 1: five years ago. This is the problem with the FDA
Speaker 1: deciding not to grant any of my interview requests. I
Speaker 1: want to know from them, and I am not anti FDA.
Speaker 1: I think it's a very important organization. We thought they
Speaker 1: were going to be on board. I thought they would
Speaker 1: be on board. I would like to understand not why
Speaker 1: they are ineffective, why they have fought to be more
Speaker 1: effective and have been pushed back every time. I called
Speaker 1: my aunt Amy the other day to see how she's doing,
Speaker 1: and she answered from the car Grandma was driving. They'd
Speaker 1: just gone to the health food store for some trace minerals,
Speaker 1: and she said she's treating her lyme disease on her
Speaker 1: own at home now, using techniques that only European doctors
Speaker 1: employe which food raising her body temperature above one hundred
Speaker 1: and two point two degrees once every three days. She
Speaker 1: accomplishes this in a hot bath. I asked her why
Speaker 1: she's taken it upon herself, and she said of mainstream
Speaker 1: doctors and natural paths both quote, no one should be
Speaker 1: saying they can cure anything. You can do things to
Speaker 1: help your body fight against these things, but there's nothing
Speaker 1: you can do or take on this planet that can
Speaker 1: completely annihilate anything. It's all the same smoke and mirrors
Speaker 1: for either side of the fence. They're all trying to
Speaker 1: sell you something. This season on the Dream, we're taking
Speaker 1: on the massive five trillion dollar wellness industry, Yeah trillion,
Speaker 1: which is almost unfathomably huge until you break it down
Speaker 1: to its endless parts. Getting a touchless massage as wellness,
Speaker 1: but so is violent rolfing. Wellness is meditation and mindfulness
Speaker 1: and juicing and taking a curated mix of vitamins or
Speaker 1: things that look sort of like vitamins but sound like prescriptions,
Speaker 1: all smelling like perfume. Wellness is f leisure and eth
Speaker 1: leisure ware. It's looking beautiful while drinking a mocktail on
Speaker 1: a beach in Fiji. It's your employer giving you a
Speaker 1: kickback for joining a gym. Rude wellness is giving your
Speaker 1: crystals a moon bath while setting intensions for the next
Speaker 1: lunar cycle while free bleeding. It's CrossFit and yoga, veganism
Speaker 1: and paleo dieting. Washing your hair with an all natural
Speaker 1: shampoo or better yet, just never wash your hair ever ever. Again,
Speaker 1: that's wellness, vaginal steaming, turmeric or tumeric probiotics, home births
Speaker 1: and hospital births that look just like home births but
Speaker 1: aren't covered by Medicare for All, or are they. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about the shadiness of the massive dietary supplement industry.
Speaker 1: You and I could decide to launch a dietary supplement
Speaker 1: after this phone call and like, put an ad online
Speaker 1: tomorrow and now be fine, And what would we have
Speaker 1: to do to Like, would we have to inform the
Speaker 1: FDA we were doing this? No, that's part of the problem.
Speaker 1: We'll explore the push and pull between modern medicine and
Speaker 1: alternative therapies. When to trust your doctor and when to
Speaker 1: trust your gut. The vast majority of my patients I
Speaker 1: don't feel like they're suspicious of me. I work really
Speaker 1: hard to have a relationship with my patients, and I
Speaker 1: think that at some point in pregnancy or labor and delivery,
Speaker 1: at some point, you have to pick the experts that
Speaker 1: you're going to listen to. I hope that you have
Speaker 1: trust in that person, and I hope to that person
Speaker 1: knows what they're doing. And we'll get well ourselves. I
Speaker 1: don't know. She said something about ashwaganda will help me
Speaker 1: help my muscles feel better. No. Eight, that was the
Speaker 1: other one. I don't know, or die trying. I'm recording
Speaker 1: this on my phone from the hospital. That's all coming
Speaker 1: up this season on The Dream. The Dream is a
Speaker 1: production of Little Everywhere and Stitcher, written and reported by Me,
Speaker 1: Jane Murray and Dan Galucci, editing by Peter Clowney and
Speaker 1: Tracy Samuelson, with production by Stephanie Karayuki and Lyra Smith.
Speaker 1: The Dream is executive produced by Me, Dan Galucci, Peter Clowney,
Speaker 1: and Chris Bannon. Our mixing engineers are Casey Holford and
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