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Speaker 1: the community. Hey, everybody, welcome back to Software Radio. This week,
Speaker 1: I have a special guest again in studio, Camal Robo
Speaker 1: Koont who's a close friend of mine. Also meditated with
Speaker 1: the monks in the Himalayas. Many by looking at him
Speaker 1: would never know, but he is a former Army US
Speaker 1: Army imagery veteran, walked the five hundred plus miles across
Speaker 1: the it's the Camino Santiago, right yeah, in Spain. Eleven
Speaker 1: cent among many other things, founder of companies and venture capitalists,
Speaker 1: now best selling author, and we're here to talk about
Speaker 1: your new book, which essentially is a new version of
Speaker 1: Love Yourself, like your life depends on it, which I think,
Speaker 1: you know, I read both versions. I really think there's
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot more value added to the
Speaker 1: second time around. And then I'm personally, you know, I
Speaker 1: found myself. We'll get into it in the discussion, but
Speaker 1: I was like, like, I knew what you were talking about, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was personal for me. But I read the book.
Speaker 1: I think I jammed in one day my day off,
Speaker 1: but great book, which you know, you and I were
Speaker 1: getting coffee before the show It's a number one new
Speaker 1: release on Amazon in the post traumatic stress category, which
Speaker 1: I think is interesting for us to get in that
Speaker 1: conversation just because of so much that's happened in the
Speaker 1: US Armed Forces, with just the kind of never ending
Speaker 1: deployment cycle. And I feel like this book could help
Speaker 1: a lot of people coming out of the military. I mean,
Speaker 1: you and I both know that coming out of the
Speaker 1: military back to civilian life is a difficult integration. But
Speaker 1: you know, add on top of that, you know, being
Speaker 1: in this like horrendous environments and seeing like the worst
Speaker 1: in people, right, like the worst people can get, and
Speaker 1: in that kind of nasty wartime environment, and mean just
Speaker 1: adds to the stress of transition. I think. So I'd
Speaker 1: love to talk about that. But welcome to the show, dude,
Speaker 1: Welcome back. Thanks man. It's fun to be here. In fact,
Speaker 1: last time we were here, I was interviewing you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we were trying that out. Yeah yeah, yeah, that was
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. We still got some work on
Speaker 1: that to go, I think too. Look, I know I
Speaker 1: know you, well, I know the whole story. Well, but
Speaker 1: what inspired the Love your Self book? I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: those listeners that may not understand like the issues in
Speaker 1: events that led up to your writing the book. Can
Speaker 1: you talk about that? It's actually interesting, you know, Like
Speaker 1: I saw this thing on Instagram the other day. This
Speaker 1: guy posted He's in the army, and he posted like,
Speaker 1: I'm reading this book about love of self love and
Speaker 1: he said I never would have picked it up, but
Speaker 1: I saw that the author was a former former love
Speaker 1: and bravo. So that makes it makes me trust him,
Speaker 1: you know, which I thought was really interesting. And I
Speaker 1: do get a lot of that from from male readers.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not long here, but I'm not a
Speaker 1: ponytail guy banging drums, you know. You know. Look, I've
Speaker 1: been I've been in the military, of climb mountains, I've
Speaker 1: built companies. You know I've built you know. I'm a doer, right,
Speaker 1: So I come from that background. So I'm a very
Speaker 1: very big believer in results. Only results matter, right, and
Speaker 1: effective results. And honestly, I'm quite lazy. So I want
Speaker 1: like the best results in the fastest way possible and
Speaker 1: that stick. So love yourself like your life depends on
Speaker 1: as ultimately as a book on mindset, it's a very
Speaker 1: practical book on mindset. On what I've done to actually
Speaker 1: a couple of times really changed my life from starting
Speaker 1: from the inside. And the first time that happened was
Speaker 1: it was in twenty eleven. I've been building companies and
Speaker 1: you know, after the Army, I moved out to Silicon
Speaker 1: Valley and I started building startups and that became my thing,
Speaker 1: and I did quite well at it. My last company
Speaker 1: that I built, I self funded it completely, you know,
Speaker 1: for three and a half years, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: the kind of work that takes right, and I ran
Speaker 1: out of money. Self funding a company, a tech company
Speaker 1: for years is not cheap, and I ran the money
Speaker 1: and so everybody was doing really well. I raised money
Speaker 1: from some high profile people, and I was like this,
Speaker 1: you know, like I was walking pretty tall. I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I was maybe six months away from a
Speaker 1: big exit where it was like you get your few money, right.
Speaker 1: I was thinking pretty highly on myself. And then the
Speaker 1: whole thing blew up and just completely blew up. I
Speaker 1: lost everything. I was making payalle off credit cards, I
Speaker 1: was living off credit cards. My relationships fell apart, I
Speaker 1: fell apart. I got really sick. Like the whole thing
Speaker 1: it was just like one downward slope and there was
Speaker 1: one night. I was just so miserable, and I remember
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I can't stay in this place.
Speaker 1: I'm going to get out of this. So I'm going
Speaker 1: to just die trying. I cannot stay in this place.
Speaker 1: And this just pure misery. And the misery was in
Speaker 1: my mind, you know. I mean, look, there were no
Speaker 1: tanks outside my windows, there were no bombs dropping on me,
Speaker 1: you know, so like I mean, I still I mean,
Speaker 1: I was in the US. I was in San Francisco,
Speaker 1: you know, like we lived very charm lives here. But
Speaker 1: you when you're in darkness, you don't think of that
Speaker 1: those things. You just you're in darkness. So I staggered
Speaker 1: over to my journal on my desk and I wrote
Speaker 1: about to myself. And I'm a big believer in the
Speaker 1: power commitment to yourself. You may commit to you to
Speaker 1: yourself as a sacred act, that's something between you and
Speaker 1: life itself or whatever you believe itself. What came out
Speaker 1: surprised me. I thought it was going to be like
Speaker 1: a vout, like I'm going to get out of this
Speaker 1: or I'm going to do this. But what came out
Speaker 1: was about to love myself, which I remember is writing
Speaker 1: it sitting back thing, What the hell did I just do?
Speaker 1: And then I had to like, well, I made a vout.
Speaker 1: I made a commitment to myself. I got to keep it.
Speaker 1: I got to figure it out. So I didn't go
Speaker 1: on online to figure it out. I didn't buy books.
Speaker 1: I would to have a book on it. Now you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't buy books on it. I didn't buy that
Speaker 1: whole thing. Because everyone gives us stuff platitudes, you know,
Speaker 1: versus what is practical. I needed to get out of
Speaker 1: that misery. So I just started working on my inside,
Speaker 1: on my head. I started doing things like running patterns
Speaker 1: of like thought and feeling and emotion and feeling of light,
Speaker 1: feeling light coming. And I started doing these things because
Speaker 1: I also have a degree in economics. We shouldn't help
Speaker 1: me with this predicular biology. And I've studied some neuroscience
Speaker 1: and I know how the brain works. I started using
Speaker 1: utilizing some of those concepts, and then I noticed a
Speaker 1: certain thing made me such a feel better just bite
Speaker 1: doing them. I felt better. So if they worked, I
Speaker 1: went deeper. If it didn't, and if it stopped working
Speaker 1: through to it, I really didn't care. It was just me,
Speaker 1: my life that mattered. My inside that mattered. And after
Speaker 1: I'd say about a week or two, I'd basically come
Speaker 1: up with the with the practice that I was doing
Speaker 1: regularly every day. And this wasn't something that was taking
Speaker 1: much time or I had to sit down on journal
Speaker 1: and do yoga and stretch or any of that stuff.
Speaker 1: It was just like internal stuff. Our thoughts are running
Speaker 1: throughout the head every day anyway that I was just run.
Speaker 1: I was just more like channeling and focusing my thoughts
Speaker 1: and feelings. And I got I got better really fast,
Speaker 1: and it really changed things for me. And so the
Speaker 1: original book that I wrote was a little tiny book
Speaker 1: that I self published on Amazon just to share what
Speaker 1: I did. And you know, I thought I was going
Speaker 1: to be a big laughing stock in Silicon Valley. It
Speaker 1: was like, hey, look I failed, and you know now
Speaker 1: I love myself. Yay, you know, like look at me.
Speaker 1: And instead what happened was that book take it took off.
Speaker 1: It became a genuinely an Amazon success story. I got
Speaker 1: I started getting emails, you know, and I did something
Speaker 1: I never expected the book to do anything. I just
Speaker 1: was doing it to share so I could buy copies
Speaker 1: for friends to share with them. What I did rather
Speaker 1: than have to repeat again and again. So I put
Speaker 1: my email address in the book. You know what, I
Speaker 1: started getting emails and emails and emails out, like thousands
Speaker 1: and tens of thousand of emails for readers. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then you know obviously Twitter and Instagram messages and on
Speaker 1: Facebook and all that to sharing me like this book
Speaker 1: is literally saved lives. I met people who like, look,
Speaker 1: I had a gun next to me, and for some reason,
Speaker 1: I had your book and I was reading, and I
Speaker 1: put the gun away. You know, I gotta know, you know,
Speaker 1: and I've actually been close to that place myself, and
Speaker 1: I've used that practice to save myself. It just it
Speaker 1: was amazing, right, the book took off, and so this
Speaker 1: was I put the book out in twenty twelve, and
Speaker 1: so now it's twenty twenty. Between twenty twelve and twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: I'm getting all these emails. I always respond to my emails,
Speaker 1: sometimes late, you know, I have things to do, but
Speaker 1: I always respond. I started to note there were also
Speaker 1: questions that I started to notice a pattern in the
Speaker 1: question like that was like, yeah, you know what, I
Speaker 1: held so much back, Like there's so much more I
Speaker 1: need to share that makes this more viable, that makes
Speaker 1: this more practical, that makes this actually make something that
Speaker 1: that people can do it at last, not just something
Speaker 1: that you do for a month or a few weeks
Speaker 1: and feel better and move on and before you know it,
Speaker 1: a few months later, you're back in the same place again.
Speaker 1: And also, I'm someone who's always working on myself. You know,
Speaker 1: that's that's just something maybe being being joined the army
Speaker 1: at eighteen, you know, maybe that person like always like
Speaker 1: challenging myself, you know, And and so I'm always like
Speaker 1: challenging even this, like how can I be better at this?
Speaker 1: So over the years I've developed more and more what
Speaker 1: I do there. So I was like, okay, it's time
Speaker 1: to actually write the full book and not hold back
Speaker 1: this time. You know. It went down to, like, look,
Speaker 1: I have readers write to me about abuse and stuff
Speaker 1: like that they're dealing with and everyone, you know, we
Speaker 1: get caught up in our well, my situation is different,
Speaker 1: so you know what about this, And I haven't shared
Speaker 1: my own childhood stuff that you know, I don't necessarily
Speaker 1: need the world to know. But I shared because I shared,
Speaker 1: because this is how I overcome it, using this practice,
Speaker 1: using this you know, and it's all very simple. It's
Speaker 1: very very simple, it's very doable, and it's an internal thing.
Speaker 1: And look and the inside we're all the same and
Speaker 1: the inside, you know, the details memory that may differ
Speaker 1: on the outside of the inside. You know, same emotions,
Speaker 1: you know, same basic emotions are running the show. So
Speaker 1: I set out to I spent a year working on
Speaker 1: the expanded version. It was like, okay, now I owe
Speaker 1: it to these readers to actually put out the full
Speaker 1: thing that I can just say, okay, now it's done.
Speaker 1: Now you have the whole thing. Soup to nuts. There
Speaker 1: you go. That's what just came out last week. And
Speaker 1: what's really interesting is already I'm starting to get those emails,
Speaker 1: you know, from people. And what's really interesting is on Amazon,
Speaker 1: it just ranks stuff based on how people get to
Speaker 1: a book or how they're searching for a book, and
Speaker 1: it's become the number one book in new release in PTSD,
Speaker 1: which is so interesting. And it makes sense because it's
Speaker 1: it's an PTSD is an internal thing. It's a mental
Speaker 1: emotional thing, you know, because of circumstances that we went through,
Speaker 1: and this is this is a mental emotional practice on
Speaker 1: making yourself better for me inside out. So it's really
Speaker 1: really interesting to see that. Yeah, it's a I mean,
Speaker 1: I think about it often because I reflect back on
Speaker 1: my reasons for getting out of the seal teams that
Speaker 1: you know, and kind of mid career. But I really,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm grateful I did it. But I remember
Speaker 1: thinking ahead, like what would my life be like if
Speaker 1: I do twenty twenty five years And it was not
Speaker 1: like when I did this thought experiment, like it's not
Speaker 1: a good result, Like I probably wouldn't have a relationship
Speaker 1: with my kids, my body would be even more broken
Speaker 1: down than it was now. And I saw this like
Speaker 1: never ending deployments schedule, and I think about it like
Speaker 1: my my real the time I went to Afghanistanta for
Speaker 1: nine eleven, I felt like today even I can rationalize
Speaker 1: like what we did over there. Yeah, and it was
Speaker 1: and I think about it in the same terms because
Speaker 1: I look at the World War II veterans that came
Speaker 1: home like we were fighting, like Hitler was an evil guy, right,
Speaker 1: purpose we had it, Yeah, So there was this purpose.
Speaker 1: The thing I think that people struggle with is that
Speaker 1: outside of the first year or two in Afghanistan and
Speaker 1: a very short period in Iraq, like there was no
Speaker 1: purpose behind the war, right, Like people were genuinely in
Speaker 1: two thousand and ten going what the fuck are we
Speaker 1: doing in Afghanistan? Like why am I here? And why
Speaker 1: are my friends dying? Because there's no purpose? And then
Speaker 1: the same thing was happening version of that was happening
Speaker 1: in Iraq. And I think when these people, when you
Speaker 1: come back and you can't anchor yourself into that purpose,
Speaker 1: it really causes people a lot of problems. And that's
Speaker 1: why you know, we have such high suicide rate now
Speaker 1: in the military, and when you're out as well, there's
Speaker 1: the support system is not It's not as good as
Speaker 1: it should be. You know, the va is terrible. They're
Speaker 1: throwing opiates at these veterans, which is like the worst thing.
Speaker 1: You know. They should be issuing everybody a copy of
Speaker 1: your book and telling them to be, you know, work
Speaker 1: on themselves and mindfulness. And I think now more than ever,
Speaker 1: you know, if somebody, if you're listening to this and
Speaker 1: you you know, somebody that's transitioning from active duty to
Speaker 1: civilian life, like this would be a great gift for them,
Speaker 1: because I think this book would would help people kind
Speaker 1: of maybe choose themselves, right, is that to give them
Speaker 1: that new purpose because I think people, a lot of
Speaker 1: people are lost doing all this crazy horrendous stuff that
Speaker 1: that happens in war and they don't have in the
Speaker 1: context of World War Two, this this kind of purpose
Speaker 1: of Hey, this Hitler is like this evil guy and
Speaker 1: he's like because the veterans that I've noticed, you know,
Speaker 1: just looking back in time from World War Two, like
Speaker 1: those guys transition really well and they went on to
Speaker 1: like build and run like major companies in America. And now,
Speaker 1: you know, I have a hard time finding good guys
Speaker 1: to even you know, we have one hundred percent content
Speaker 1: on software. It is all veterans. But we had to
Speaker 1: work really really hard to make sure we screen, you know,
Speaker 1: screen and not you know, have have this like drama
Speaker 1: PTSD fueled environment because we were just you know, it
Speaker 1: was a lesson that I learned early because I wanted
Speaker 1: to just hire these guys and give them, give them
Speaker 1: a job, but I didn't realize like a lot of
Speaker 1: these guys have serious issues. One of them was a
Speaker 1: guy you met and knew, and he basically killed himself
Speaker 1: earlier this year. So you know, it's a little bit
Speaker 1: of a rant there, but I think the book can
Speaker 1: really do a lot of help. And for those of
Speaker 1: you that are listening that do have friends and loved
Speaker 1: ones in the military that are transitioning, they're always asking like,
Speaker 1: what can I do. Well, buy the book and give
Speaker 1: it to somebody you care about. That's what you can do,
Speaker 1: because I feel like this book can help a lot
Speaker 1: of people, especially coming out of the service, and we
Speaker 1: need more stuff like this rather than government contracted psychologists
Speaker 1: handing out you know, prozac like fucking tic TACs at
Speaker 1: the VA. Thanks man. It's really gratifying to see when
Speaker 1: I get emails from people in the military of veterans,
Speaker 1: you know, like reading the book. Because I never set
Speaker 1: out to write a self help book. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: not a self helped guy. I'm more, like I said,
Speaker 1: I'm more of a practical door builder guy, right. But
Speaker 1: I think that's why this booked us so well, connects
Speaker 1: us because it's sharing from like, look, this is my
Speaker 1: this is what I figured out, this is what works
Speaker 1: for me, and this is a step by step and
Speaker 1: hair and even watch how I fail, you know, And
Speaker 1: I was very I really want to share because we
Speaker 1: are human beings. You know. Often you know, when we
Speaker 1: look at look outside, everyone seems to be like killing it,
Speaker 1: doing great whatever. It is important to know, like, look,
Speaker 1: we all struggle no matter where were in life. Look, man,
Speaker 1: in Silicon Valley, I'm running by people who are extremely wealthy,
Speaker 1: who got extremely wealthy very young. You know, a lot
Speaker 1: of his luck, you know, or people who are looked
Speaker 1: up to in our business culture. You know where we
Speaker 1: almost like these days, we almost like worship you know,
Speaker 1: people who have a lot of money and you really
Speaker 1: and you get to know them, and they're all shit
Speaker 1: shows inside. Yeah, everyone's a shit show inside. That's the
Speaker 1: secret to humanity. Everyone's a shit show inside. It's like,
Speaker 1: how do you manage your own shit show? That's the secret. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. You know. I'm in YPO and we meet
Speaker 1: in a confidential environment once a month, and you learn
Speaker 1: real quick, like, you know, some of the most successful people,
Speaker 1: like they just have the same problems, right they have
Speaker 1: they have issues with the in laws, the family, family dynamics.
Speaker 1: You know, you realize you're just not alone and like
Speaker 1: everybody has this shit. Everybody has the struggle, and it's
Speaker 1: just like being able to struggle well, I think it
Speaker 1: is kind of the secret, right. Yeah. And also, like
Speaker 1: the thing is, I've really come to believe that internal
Speaker 1: work is probably the most important work we can do
Speaker 1: for ourselves. We all know how to get in shape,
Speaker 1: we all, you know, a lot of us work hard
Speaker 1: on our bodies. You know, we know what to eat,
Speaker 1: we know you know what to do for pt. We
Speaker 1: know what to like, what workouts to do, right, But
Speaker 1: the most important thing that runs the whole show, which
Speaker 1: is the inside, how much of that do we actually
Speaker 1: spend time working on? And that's the one that runs
Speaker 1: the entire show, you know, and that's what we forget.
Speaker 1: And look, it's like it's none of us say, it's
Speaker 1: no one's fault. We never taught this stuff. We've given platitudes.
Speaker 1: We've given platitudes like yeah, you know, do this, do that.
Speaker 1: You know, go have self esteem, go have confidence, go
Speaker 1: love yourself. Great, how ye tell me how? That's what matters? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And I think too that you know, people are desperate
Speaker 1: for the recipe, right, and you're sharing your your experience
Speaker 1: and being vulnerable in a way where people can take
Speaker 1: the bits and pieces and use them for you know,
Speaker 1: what works for themselves. But I think the I think
Speaker 1: a mistake a lot that I see a lot of
Speaker 1: people make is we were talking about this a couple
Speaker 1: months ago. It's like, good, up at four point thirty
Speaker 1: in the morning and crush the day. You know. It's like, look,
Speaker 1: that may work for some people, but you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody has their thing. I like sleeping man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and if I'm getting up at four thirty, I'm going
Speaker 1: to bed by eight probably eight pm. So figuring out
Speaker 1: like what works for you is kind of like, in
Speaker 1: my experience, the best thing. Like I wouldn't look at
Speaker 1: a guy like Bill Gates or Warren Buffin and go like,
Speaker 1: I'm just not them, right, I'm not like I can't
Speaker 1: just do mimic what they do throughout their day and
Speaker 1: be successful. And I see a lot of that, especially
Speaker 1: on social media. It's like, oh, I'm going to be
Speaker 1: more mindful, I'm going to get up in the morning,
Speaker 1: I'm going to meditate, I'm going to do all this stuff.
Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, some of that stuff may may
Speaker 1: be valuable, but you have like we're so unique individually.
Speaker 1: We have to constantly be on that self expiration path
Speaker 1: and and then take the bits that work for us,
Speaker 1: and it constantly. Yeah, you know, it's fundamentally about making
Speaker 1: yourselves better. You know, it's about growth, and that's the
Speaker 1: only choice we've got to be to grow. We stagnate.
Speaker 1: If you grow on the inside, it is the rny
Speaker 1: it changes everything on the outside. I keep learning this
Speaker 1: again and again. I'm like the test case who forgets
Speaker 1: this and then has to do it again and again.
Speaker 1: And we're all human, man, I'm every year, I kind
Speaker 1: of have a personal retreat for a couple of days
Speaker 1: and I spend time on my business goals and my
Speaker 1: family and personal goals. And I just finished that Ray
Speaker 1: Dalio's Principles book and it caused me to notice, like,
Speaker 1: what habits do I have that I really aren't serving
Speaker 1: me well? And I was like, I'm spending way too
Speaker 1: much time on dating apps, Like I mean, that's the
Speaker 1: honest truth, right, And I'm like, I could be so
Speaker 1: more productive and when I and this is a habit
Speaker 1: I have to break that I made a commitment to
Speaker 1: myself to break. And now I'm like, I shifted that
Speaker 1: energy and time to searching for a commercial real estate
Speaker 1: property investment property and like analyzing businesses and probably In
Speaker 1: the last three weeks, I've looked at it at least
Speaker 1: a thousand businesses on you know, this business broker website
Speaker 1: for sale, and it's like analyzing all these these different
Speaker 1: businesses because you know, I'm I'm trying to potentially buy
Speaker 1: business this year to add on to software. But I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: this is way this is way more productive and way
Speaker 1: more aligned to kind of what I want to do
Speaker 1: out of life. Yeah, we've got to be conscious, you know,
Speaker 1: it's otherwise we just went we got this monkey inside
Speaker 1: the head running the show. You know. Yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: my monkey was taken over. Yeah, monkey was going crazy.
Speaker 1: Those dating apps are you know, designed very well? Oh
Speaker 1: they just trigger you. Right. I wanted to ask you
Speaker 1: this question, like, what are some of your your takeaways
Speaker 1: from your military experience? And you did two years in
Speaker 1: the three farm three three total in the Tenth Mountain,
Speaker 1: and I'm doing part of in the reserves. You know.
Speaker 1: The main thing was, look, I went in as an
Speaker 1: eighteen year old, you know, as this I had a
Speaker 1: free ride to college. R went into college for a
Speaker 1: year and I was like, I want to go serve.
Speaker 1: So I actually dropped out and uh and and enlisted. Right.
Speaker 1: I remember here, I am an eighteen year old city
Speaker 1: kid who's never really spent time in the woods, you know,
Speaker 1: landing in Atlanta, getting put on a bus and taking
Speaker 1: the full bending at night, right, and it was speakinning
Speaker 1: of summer. Summerfull bedding is the worst time, man, It's
Speaker 1: the worst time. Well, look, boot camp's not designed to
Speaker 1: be comfortable. So I did my you know, I did
Speaker 1: my basic and ait there straight through to go there
Speaker 1: and you know, be throwing them at all these kids
Speaker 1: from all over and we were all so different, man,
Speaker 1: we were so freaking different. You know, like if it
Speaker 1: wasn't the military, we turned the lord of the flies,
Speaker 1: they probably, like some of us, would have killed each other.
Speaker 1: You know, like it's not like you like everyone in
Speaker 1: boot camp. You know, like but you come together, right,
Speaker 1: you end up coming together and and becoming a unit.
Speaker 1: And the growth that happened because you know, you get
Speaker 1: challenged every day. I was challenged every single day because
Speaker 1: there was not one day I thought this is a
Speaker 1: pleasant day, this is a good day. You know, like
Speaker 1: there's never a day you think, oh, this is a
Speaker 1: great day. You know, like this you're just being challenged
Speaker 1: just when you think you got it, they will find
Speaker 1: some other way to make you miserable. That's the whole point.
Speaker 1: But I remember at the end of AI T you know,
Speaker 1: I did the straight through, so I think it was
Speaker 1: thirteen and a half with a stand for it's basically
Speaker 1: your mos, your your specialty. So it was infantry school.
Speaker 1: But you know, so mine was like basic in infantry
Speaker 1: school just combined. I think basically was like eight weeks
Speaker 1: and infantry was five. End up being combined total thirteen
Speaker 1: and a half, but around that, right, And I remember
Speaker 1: at the end with the last last exercise we did
Speaker 1: and we had then we had this last rock march,
Speaker 1: this long rock march at night, where it was that
Speaker 1: that was it, we were done, and then we were
Speaker 1: going to graduate. And I remember when we finished our
Speaker 1: rock march and I had severe stress fractures. Man, they
Speaker 1: were like thinking about like making me repeat stay at repay.
Speaker 1: I was like, there's no way to maybe go through
Speaker 1: the game. I had these horse pill these Motord hot
Speaker 1: horse pills. I was you know, everyone's been in the
Speaker 1: military noses. I probably it was like candy man. I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't give her break my feet of
Speaker 1: that march. I am not I'm going to get to
Speaker 1: the end because you had to make it to the end,
Speaker 1: and you're not sending me back to repeat this thing,
Speaker 1: you know, which is like the worst insult too they
Speaker 1: can do is make you go and repeat because you
Speaker 1: had an injury. I remember we got to the end,
Speaker 1: We got to barracks, and then we were saying information
Speaker 1: and a droll sergeant came by and he he pinneder
Speaker 1: our blue cord, you know, which is the infantryman's blue
Speaker 1: cord on our uniforms. And I remember just the pride
Speaker 1: I felt I had earned it. I had earned this.
Speaker 1: I mean, you probably know this way better than I
Speaker 1: do when you earned your trident, but that feeling is
Speaker 1: in right. I turned nineteen book camps and now I'm
Speaker 1: a nineteen year old off. I had earned something that
Speaker 1: was purely mine for the first time in my life,
Speaker 1: by purely by my sweat, by my by my stepping
Speaker 1: up again every day and putting up with whatever I
Speaker 1: was pushed against. And that feeling made me realize I
Speaker 1: can do anything. I can step up and do anything.
Speaker 1: I can get through anything and do anything. And that
Speaker 1: mindset has been great for me all my life. You know.
Speaker 1: I it's funny if I was thinking the more at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the show when you were talking about
Speaker 1: how I walked across Spain and the him and clean
Speaker 1: himlets and stuff, thinking, yeah, of course I was a
Speaker 1: leg No, no wonder half my life I started walking
Speaker 1: across countries and stuff that was just trained, you know,
Speaker 1: at a formative age and just walk, you know, walk
Speaker 1: with the backpack with a rucksack. But that at that
Speaker 1: point because I look at boot camp as a very
Speaker 1: special time because you're you go in and one way
Speaker 1: you come out another way, you know, very very different, right,
Speaker 1: So for me, it was that it was that end,
Speaker 1: like I earned this and the pride it's very rarely
Speaker 1: I felt that kind of pride again in my life
Speaker 1: with other things I've done. Yeah, no, I I mean
Speaker 1: I could look back on my Navy career, I think
Speaker 1: the first time, I I mean, obviously, you know, graduating
Speaker 1: boot camp was an accomplishment. Then kind of the next
Speaker 1: thing for me would I finished Search and Rescues from
Speaker 1: a school and that was a big accomplishment, you know, Eric,
Speaker 1: we went I went to Pensacola, Florida after after boot
Speaker 1: camp in Orlando and finished you know, Aircrew Candidate school,
Speaker 1: which was it wasn't that hard, but rescues from the
Speaker 1: school is hard, and finishing now I'm like, okay, great.
Speaker 1: And then I went to my A school was Anti
Speaker 1: Submarine Warfare Operators. It was like studying all these you know,
Speaker 1: harmonic frequencies with submarines and and learning how to like
Speaker 1: measure you know, the harmonic vibrations and water and using
Speaker 1: it to identify like how many blades were on a sub,
Speaker 1: how many cylinders and frequencies of turbines, and then you
Speaker 1: could match it to like a specific Soviet subprofile. It
Speaker 1: was pretty crazy. But then I finished that school, I
Speaker 1: got my I got my E I went from E
Speaker 1: two to E four, so I became a n c
Speaker 1: O and that was like another big moment. Obviously I
Speaker 1: got my aircrew wings too, and then the tried It
Speaker 1: was probably the biggest, the biggest thing for me, But
Speaker 1: you like, it's it's one of those things I think
Speaker 1: as a parent, you know, I really am always trying
Speaker 1: to make sure that I'm putting my kids in situations
Speaker 1: where they have the ability to kind of earn it,
Speaker 1: because when you give it to them, it's just not
Speaker 1: you know, it's just not the same, right, And that's
Speaker 1: why I feel so terrible recently with this whole college
Speaker 1: admissions things. I mean, you could even see how some
Speaker 1: of these kids were behaving and publicly after they were
Speaker 1: you know, the parents were like bribing these their kids
Speaker 1: into these these schools. It just takes away that the
Speaker 1: accomplishment of it all, and you're robbing your kids of
Speaker 1: something meaningful. They have to struggle, and that's the hardest
Speaker 1: thing of a parent like you. You don't want your
Speaker 1: kids to struggle, but when you really realize that they
Speaker 1: have to struggle, they have to fail and struggle and
Speaker 1: earn it because if they don't, they're we're going to
Speaker 1: know the value of that. And I think that that's
Speaker 1: something the military taught me, right, like the value of
Speaker 1: like like you said, having having really really known that
Speaker 1: you earned this, you earned it. Yeah, yeah, yeah that
Speaker 1: the military is great for that. I still recommend it
Speaker 1: to people. I try to talk Connor and it going
Speaker 1: to the Air Force Academy. That's been awesome. I was like,
Speaker 1: because he's you know, he's a sharp kid, but he's like,
Speaker 1: I don't want people tell me what. Yeah, he's great.
Speaker 1: He just won his tournament. Last weekend, he won first
Speaker 1: place for parliamentary debate. So I'm really proud of him.
Speaker 1: You know, you get to see the look on his face,
Speaker 1: the kids holding this trophy that he's worked hard for.
Speaker 1: He has put in a lot of hours that him
Speaker 1: and his sister, but he has been doing debates since
Speaker 1: middle school. He spent the first I think two years
Speaker 1: of high school debating and it was always like finishing.
Speaker 1: I think the highest he finished was was third place,
Speaker 1: and I was like, buddy, it's got to keep working
Speaker 1: at it'll come. And then he started doing better and
Speaker 1: when he first won his tournament I could just see
Speaker 1: the like pride on his face because he had actually
Speaker 1: he'd spent years working towards this moment and actually to
Speaker 1: hold this trophy in his hand is h You know,
Speaker 1: it was great. It was a great feeling for me
Speaker 1: and I'm sure for him too. You know, as like
Speaker 1: I said, as a parent, you want you want your
Speaker 1: kids to have those those kind of moments, you know,
Speaker 1: and earn them, not just buy it for him, right
Speaker 1: because you're just you're not setting them up for success
Speaker 1: by giving it to your kids. And that's life in
Speaker 1: general too. I think, you know, I see you know,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's it's easy to blame the millennials
Speaker 1: or gen Z. I think it exists in every generation
Speaker 1: where you see people that come up and they're kind
Speaker 1: of coddled too much. You know, I'd bump into him
Speaker 1: in New York all the time. It's like they just
Speaker 1: have no sense of reality of earning something. They're just
Speaker 1: you know, playing around with their parents' money still at
Speaker 1: you know, that's a thirty something, you know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's actually interesting. I mean, look, I don't pay much
Speaker 1: attention to politics because I think it's a confederacy of dunces.
Speaker 1: You know, it's just a complete like you know, it's
Speaker 1: just like the pharmacy of duncas. You know. I like,
Speaker 1: if you're it reminds me of the head or nuts,
Speaker 1: like the saying we have the military. It's like, what
Speaker 1: do you mean header nuts? Like I'm going to kick
Speaker 1: you in the balls, I'm gonna punch you in the
Speaker 1: face or take your pick. You're like, there is no
Speaker 1: good Yeah, that's like what I feel like a politics.
Speaker 1: And but I was listening to this cheme across this
Speaker 1: thing about like look, college tuition basically just waving off
Speaker 1: the debt. Look, it's a huge problem we have, like
Speaker 1: we're basically having dentured servitude. But like you know, there's
Speaker 1: another option, join the military, don't pay it. There's a
Speaker 1: GI bill. That was the whole point, you know, like
Speaker 1: I got the GI bill, you know, like there are
Speaker 1: options rather than just wave it. I think if you
Speaker 1: create something like that, you're actually you're people are losing
Speaker 1: something either waved or like waved join the military, or
Speaker 1: do some sort of like a like America Core program
Speaker 1: where you go in underserved communities and you work there
Speaker 1: and you pay and you get paid off. Even though
Speaker 1: I've read a few biographies now and the last one
Speaker 1: was the founder of a serious ExM. But there's also
Speaker 1: like fucking I want to walk about for a year,
Speaker 1: like earn your way, wait tables, do odd jobs and
Speaker 1: explore the world for a year and see how good
Speaker 1: we really do have it in America, like I've seen,
Speaker 1: Like that's almost like another version of what you're saying
Speaker 1: as well, But I think that's extremely valuable. Rather good
Speaker 1: write into college, you know, drinking beer on the weekend,
Speaker 1: joining a fraternity, like come on, like it's and I really.
Speaker 1: I mean you and I talk about this often. It's
Speaker 1: like the college educationism what it used to be, Like
Speaker 1: the kids watching Hunter and how he's developed an interest
Speaker 1: in computer science, Like he's fortunate enough to have a
Speaker 1: computer science class at his high school. But when he
Speaker 1: was a sophomore, his teacher sure is like Hunter teaches
Speaker 1: the class because you're way more you know, you know
Speaker 1: Python and doing neural network programming. Like I don't know
Speaker 1: how to do this stuff, so you teach it. And
Speaker 1: he just learned it on YouTube and con Academy and
Speaker 1: just self taught. And it's the same like technology is
Speaker 1: evolving so fast, Like where are you going to like
Speaker 1: where are you going to legitimately go to school and
Speaker 1: and be like a cutting edge computer science program? I mean,
Speaker 1: there's just not especially That's something I tell people getting
Speaker 1: out of the military, things like trying what to do
Speaker 1: and like, look, in my career, the best opportunities are
Speaker 1: actually in knowledge work where you can make it stupid
Speaker 1: about some money, you know, very quickly without an intense
Speaker 1: amount of training because there's so much demand, right, So
Speaker 1: like and how do you go by doing it? You
Speaker 1: got to be self motivated? Right, So that's one thing.
Speaker 1: It does take. And just like your kid did, right,
Speaker 1: be self motivating and go on all the educations out there.
Speaker 1: Now you don't need to go to college for this.
Speaker 1: Some of the best programmers in the world I've had
Speaker 1: work for me. I've had some of the very best
Speaker 1: work for me, man, And they were all self taught.
Speaker 1: Like one of them didn't even finish high school. And
Speaker 1: this kid, man, he could hack into any Pentagon computer
Speaker 1: you want, man, Like, that's the kind of level like
Speaker 1: that good almost scary, you know, like I was almost scary.
Speaker 1: But that level of smarts, those are the best that
Speaker 1: are self taught. And these days, like you said, you know,
Speaker 1: just go to con academy online or go to YouTube
Speaker 1: and just start from squad to start learning how to
Speaker 1: do some sort of knowledge work. And if you can
Speaker 1: learn how to program, and anyone can, you know, it's
Speaker 1: just a way of thinking that you learn. It's just
Speaker 1: the language that you learn and teach yourself. You'd be
Speaker 1: amazed the opportunities that open up. But it does take
Speaker 1: self motivation. But because because you've be in the military,
Speaker 1: one thing you know is disciplined and if you just
Speaker 1: start doing a discipline manner, no matter where you are.
Speaker 1: Before you know it, you will you will actually be
Speaker 1: in demand. You will be in person that if you
Speaker 1: apply for a job, you don't have to be stocking
Speaker 1: shelf somewhere. You can actually be you can actually be
Speaker 1: making six figures within six months of training yourself. It's
Speaker 1: amazing the opportunities are there that people are talking about.
Speaker 1: And the people are like, oh, well, maybe I'm not
Speaker 1: going to math, or but I don't want to do programming.
Speaker 1: But even like internet marketing is the same thing, Like
Speaker 1: it's just marketing. Yeah, and look, I know some of
Speaker 1: the top internal marketers in the world right and they're
Speaker 1: not geniuses. It's actually funny. It's just like watching things
Speaker 1: and figuring things out. You know, there's a there's a
Speaker 1: process to it, and you can learn all of this
Speaker 1: for free. You don't need to pay for anything. There's
Speaker 1: so much. There's great podcasts out there. Pick up pot
Speaker 1: find the top internet marketing podcast, just not listening to it,
Speaker 1: find YouTube video, start doing, you know, and before you know,
Speaker 1: you go to someone say, look, you know, pay me,
Speaker 1: you know, two thousand dollars a month to manage your
Speaker 1: Facebook spend for you and now we'll get you this
Speaker 1: kind of return and then next thing you know, you
Speaker 1: got five clients. You're making ten grand a month managing
Speaker 1: people's Facebook ad spend. It's so easy to do. But
Speaker 1: you've got to be self motivated and this stuff you
Speaker 1: can teach yourself very easily. There's a lot you out there,
Speaker 1: and I really hope anyone listening to this who is
Speaker 1: actually thinking about what to do, Like, man, if you're
Speaker 1: self motivated, you are you are going to be sitting
Speaker 1: in gold. Yeah. No, I mean that's the that's the
Speaker 1: advantage of you know, the guys that do transition and
Speaker 1: the kind of figure it out because they do have
Speaker 1: the discipline. They do really they do it really well.
Speaker 1: I just wish it. I wish it was more more
Speaker 1: of them. In fact, the reason I decided to be
Speaker 1: kind of an ambassador and speak at Bunker Labs first
Speaker 1: inaugural gallows because there was very few military nonprofits come
Speaker 1: along that are actually you know, giving you know, a
Speaker 1: hand up, not a handout, and I was super impressive
Speaker 1: like what they're doing at Bunker Labs kind of incubate,
Speaker 1: like bring these guys in, mentor them, make them feel
Speaker 1: like they're part of the family. Men and women and
Speaker 1: and they give them this like peer like support environment,
Speaker 1: but also like, hey, you got to do the work.
Speaker 1: Just seeing like a few of the companies come out
Speaker 1: of there have had success and it's pretty cool and
Speaker 1: that you know that to me, that's much better than like, oh,
Speaker 1: you can't pay your bills, here's five hundred bucks, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, that's just bullshit, you know when
Speaker 1: most people don't realize in the history of Silicon value
Speaker 1: of Silicon Valley, you know, all the like Google, Facebook,
Speaker 1: all these major major companies and a lot of them
Speaker 1: you never heard about, but that are massive that basically
Speaker 1: you know, running the show coming out of there, Silicon
Speaker 1: Valley was founded by military veterans, you know, in the
Speaker 1: semiconductor industry. They don't people don't realize that it was
Speaker 1: actually formed of military veterans. You know. I think there
Speaker 1: were a lot of back in the back in the
Speaker 1: day in like sixties seventies, Like there's a strong history
Speaker 1: of just military people going into new technology and then
Speaker 1: just like running with running with it. Yeah, that doesn't
Speaker 1: get shared much online. So I want to also ask you,
Speaker 1: like what's your what's your opinion on recently they've found
Speaker 1: all this information. With that, the military has this crazy
Speaker 1: program which I don't know why we waste our time
Speaker 1: and resources on it, but they bring in these foreign
Speaker 1: nationals and train them and then most of them don't
Speaker 1: meet the standards and they graduated him anyway. But we
Speaker 1: had this Saudi pilot in Pensacola who was obviously had
Speaker 1: this radical interpretation of Islam and and shot and killed
Speaker 1: those people. And now you know, the police are saying
Speaker 1: to you know, trying to like shame Apple on TV
Speaker 1: into like releasing this this guy's cell phone data. And
Speaker 1: I'm really conflicted with that because I'd almost like, I, look,
Speaker 1: we know this, Like what are you going to accomplish
Speaker 1: by unlocking this guy's phone? Like I just feel like
Speaker 1: like we've lost a lot of a lot of our
Speaker 1: rights in the country. And look, I live my life like, hey,
Speaker 1: I have nothing to hide. I my Google Home thing
Speaker 1: is on all the time, listen to me, you know,
Speaker 1: do whatever the hell I do. But which is crazy.
Speaker 1: But I'm more like like when you really like, look
Speaker 1: at what when the Patriot Act was passed, like spying
Speaker 1: on US citizens without warrant, Like that's when I really
Speaker 1: like struggle with, like why are because those powers can
Speaker 1: be abused and they historically will always be abused because power,
Speaker 1: you know, we are power shifts in this country. You
Speaker 1: know who's here four years will not be here four
Speaker 1: years from now. You don't know what that person's ad
Speaker 1: agenda is. And these aren't all fully mentally seane people
Speaker 1: running the show. Yeah, yeah, but do you have an
Speaker 1: opinion on like yeah, yeah, Look, the problem is the
Speaker 1: problem is it's a slippery slope. If you unlock it
Speaker 1: for one situation, then that could be used to be
Speaker 1: unlocking down to the point for like someone the local
Speaker 1: attorney general has it in for. Yeah, that's the problem.
Speaker 1: It's not that this situation, Yes, the situation we should
Speaker 1: you know you I mean I would think, yeah, you
Speaker 1: want to know someone who's a terrorist, You want to
Speaker 1: know everything there, right, But that the slippery slope is
Speaker 1: it'll eventually come down to the local powers that be
Speaker 1: you abusing it and that would rather live in a
Speaker 1: more dangerous world. But know that, you know, it's you know,
Speaker 1: a freer and honestly, I don't think it's a more
Speaker 1: dangerous world because first of all, there's very little online
Speaker 1: prophecy no matter what you do. But Second of all,
Speaker 1: if you are interested in online prophecy, there's enough ways
Speaker 1: that you can do it that even if they unlock
Speaker 1: that phone, right, they could be a person could be
Speaker 1: used in this app like Signal, and the Signal which
Speaker 1: which deleted the messages is nobody to recover them. You know,
Speaker 1: there's there's peer to peer stuff. So they so the
Speaker 1: people who want to hide stuff can hide stuff, right,
Speaker 1: if they want to hid stuff, they can, They really can.
Speaker 1: It's and it's not that hard. It's actually quite easy.
Speaker 1: It's all available. It's absolutely app store, right, and they work.
Speaker 1: They're you know, they're they're great for people who are
Speaker 1: in repressive governments, you know, but they also are used
Speaker 1: in democracies. So in that case, if you use those laws,
Speaker 1: you start unlocking those people who are already if they
Speaker 1: want to hide stuff, they'll hide stuff. But now those
Speaker 1: laws go to a slippery slope, and now you're doing
Speaker 1: for like people like you, and if if someone doesn't
Speaker 1: like if some local and I've seen local attorney generals
Speaker 1: go for people, you know, because they're politically may have
Speaker 1: motivated to nation motivated. And it's just you don't want
Speaker 1: to go down that slope because that is the last
Speaker 1: frontier is are whatever privacy we have left on our
Speaker 1: on our devices, you know, we live off these things. No,
Speaker 1: I agree. I feel like we've given we gave up
Speaker 1: so much just of our rights as citizens under that
Speaker 1: the guise of safety and this Patriot Act. It's just crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's uh. I mean, the world is getting smaller and
Speaker 1: smaller with technology. It's like I had some discussions with
Speaker 1: my friends about the whole like cryptocurrency thing, and and
Speaker 1: I know you you know crypto way better than I do.
Speaker 1: But there was this we were talking about this French
Speaker 1: guy and young guy my my HBS class that was like, no,
Speaker 1: crypto is the future. We're going to transact and it's
Speaker 1: a free economy. I'm like, dude, no government is ever
Speaker 1: going to allow that to happen, right, you know, because
Speaker 1: they have the power to control it, and they are
Speaker 1: for sure going to control it. They're not going to
Speaker 1: lose their tax revenue and if anything, is going to
Speaker 1: get harder and harder to kind of move stuff around
Speaker 1: in the world and shelter, you know, shelter money from
Speaker 1: tax authorities. But anyway, I don't know if you have
Speaker 1: an opinion on that yeah, I mean crypture really works
Speaker 1: is in governments that are failing. Venezuela, go to Argentina,
Speaker 1: you know, go to Iran, you know those places. You know,
Speaker 1: how do you get money out? How do you get
Speaker 1: money away from the government, that's the only option they
Speaker 1: really have, or just like buying precious metals. How many
Speaker 1: people can do that. So crypto really works very well there.
Speaker 1: But as a whole, yeah, I mean, the US is
Speaker 1: not going to allow but they'll allowed to operate because
Speaker 1: it's a global thing. They can't stop it. That's the thing.
Speaker 1: It's a global distributing thing you can't stand. But they'll
Speaker 1: allowed to operate in a way that they can actually
Speaker 1: watch who's doing what and collect their taxes. You know.
Speaker 1: It's like almost like you start to think the government
Speaker 1: exists to collect taxes, not to do anything for you,
Speaker 1: but just to collect taxes. Yeah, you know, that seems
Speaker 1: to be their function. Yeah, I mean I was my
Speaker 1: friend Dennis, who owns a small bank in California. They
Speaker 1: were the first to accept crypto deposits, but they can
Speaker 1: only accept deposits that passed the Know your Customer tests
Speaker 1: because the government wanted to collect tax on it and
Speaker 1: their deposits. They were They went from eight hundred million
Speaker 1: to almost four billion and ten months. And he said
Speaker 1: they had to refuse ninety percent of the people that
Speaker 1: wanted to deposit money because it couldn't pass the test.
Speaker 1: But it was crazy. Yeah, anything else you want to
Speaker 1: before we wrap, or you want to share with the
Speaker 1: audience about the book. I've given this book my all.
Speaker 1: I really worked so hard to share something that that's
Speaker 1: really worked for me, and now it's worked for so
Speaker 1: many people. I think if you're anyone who's got any
Speaker 1: ever had any any ink discipline in your life, you
Speaker 1: can apply this. It's it's a one man's journey, but
Speaker 1: it's also a human journey, and it is practiced. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you from my experience, it works. You know. I've
Speaker 1: had so many readers reach out to me, and people
Speaker 1: have nothing in common with you know, sixteen year old girls,
Speaker 1: who's a woman in their seventies, to you know, obviously,
Speaker 1: to you just a wide range of just people. It's
Speaker 1: a human thing, you know, And yeah, it just it
Speaker 1: just involves, you know, kind of like us taking ownership
Speaker 1: of our mind, you know, and it's actually way easier
Speaker 1: to do than one thinks we just never taught it.
Speaker 1: And it's funny because I get I get like recovery
Speaker 1: centers using this book. I guess psychologists emailing me using
Speaker 1: this book for their patients. You know, I'm not a
Speaker 1: psychologist or anything like That'm just the guy who works
Speaker 1: in himself. Yeah, where can people find you? The best
Speaker 1: place on Instagram, Twitter by email addresses is in the
Speaker 1: book with the Instagram handle just Kamala Ravi kant you know,
Speaker 1: just a luck spelling it, yeah with a K. And
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Speaker 1: make sure if you're searching for it on Amazon that
Speaker 1: you're getting the latest release copy. Yeah, because it's really
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Speaker 1: like we talked about the old the original version is
Speaker 1: still available on Amazon, but it's third party sellers. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Bookstores will only carry the latest one. Yeah, so everywhere
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Speaker 1: Look if you buy it at the local bookstore. You know,
Speaker 1: I love local bookstores because you're supporting a local business. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're near one, I would say that's
Speaker 1: the best place to get it. Are you doing any
Speaker 1: signings for the book? Any plan? Nothing planned? Okay, maybe
Speaker 1: we'll rope you into one of our SOFTWAREPP author events
Speaker 1: where actually it was one of our big twenty twenty
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Speaker 1: but also yeah, we're start we're basically leaning into the
Speaker 1: publishing world ourselves. We got ten books we're publishing this
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Speaker 1: build out our own publishing division. So look for that
Speaker 1: and then everyone listening to we're speaking of events. We've
Speaker 1: got a partnership with iHeart iHeartMedia. We're doing a big
Speaker 1: event in Austin the Country Music Festival with iHeart. So
Speaker 1: it'll be some giveaways coming. So you guys, make sure
Speaker 1: you look for the giveaways stuff on our social media
Speaker 1: and websites. Not only we're going to give away special
Speaker 1: VIP packages to the Country Music Festival in Austin, but
Speaker 1: leading up to Veterans Day Music Festival in Nashville, that'll
Speaker 1: be a really cool event. We plan on having some
Speaker 1: giveaways gold Star Family giveaways and as well as for
Speaker 1: our members. And it's pretty cool to see just how
Speaker 1: supportive iHeart has been with our partnership, and then the
Speaker 1: fact that we were really committed to giving back to
Speaker 1: the to the military community and through our kind of
Speaker 1: charitable donations. Look for that. Go by Kamal's book Thank
Speaker 1: You for Getting It. Yeah, well, we got some more
Speaker 1: interesting guests lined up. It's on comal. Last night I
Speaker 1: had dinner with Conan. I was the guy to first
Speaker 1: walk across the Antarctica unassisted. Super interesting guy. Colin Brady.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, first across Antarctica solo, unassisted human power only
Speaker 1: It's fascinating. He was saying, he's like calculating the fact
Speaker 1: that he can only bring so much food. He knew
Speaker 1: that he could eat seven thousand calories a day, but
Speaker 1: he was going to burn ten thousand and lose about
Speaker 1: a pound a day's like calculating his body mass loss,
Speaker 1: because he said most that's what got most people before him,
Speaker 1: because if you have died trying to do the same
Speaker 1: thing he did, was they didn't calculate enough, they didn't
Speaker 1: get detailed enough to figure out how much food they
Speaker 1: had to take, and they'd run out of food and
Speaker 1: start to death. Basically, but fascinating guy. So I'm going
Speaker 1: to have a colon on the show. It's some other
Speaker 1: guests coming up, but appreciate you guys listening. Big Phil
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