Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast? How much do we want
Speaker 1: to babe these people? Welcome to another addition of the
Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan hands As
Speaker 1: I am coming to you a roof build of heroes,
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris Wesley, and Gregg Rose Atal What is up? Boys?
Speaker 1: Hey d? What sound supposed to be? Was my favorite?
Speaker 1: Money dropping Yeah? I like I like the idea of
Speaker 1: now he's just gonna start coming after us with his
Speaker 1: own personal takes? Is it us? Though? I feel like
Speaker 1: it's a pull quote from a previous episode that none
Speaker 1: of us remember. I feel like I've said that exact
Speaker 1: quote at least twenty times on this show over the use.
Speaker 1: But if Money does start getting agro, it makes sense.
Speaker 1: It's he's been getting He's been doing this labor for
Speaker 1: free for about six years. Yeah, it seems like it
Speaker 1: would break a labor law at some point to not
Speaker 1: be compensating a contracted employee to do extra work around
Speaker 1: the office for us. I want to raise that update
Speaker 1: the flagpole. As West leaks to say, this is the
Speaker 1: post super Bowl calendar. I was out a week ago.
Speaker 1: Mr our Thursday show, West, You'll be out this Thursday. Correct? Um?
Speaker 1: For your baby moon. I'm not sure if that was
Speaker 1: supposed to go public, but yes, it's out, it's out.
Speaker 1: Can't come back. I mean, we could pull it back
Speaker 1: right now, we could do the old classics. Stop down. Well,
Speaker 1: I think this is one of those deals where you
Speaker 1: just take what's coming to you and I'll take the
Speaker 1: punishment if I have any coming. But I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not the one who created the baby moon. No, and
Speaker 1: I'd like to be quite frankly, I'd like to know
Speaker 1: who did create the baby moon because you also, and
Speaker 1: it's on your radar that you have a quote unquote
Speaker 1: push gift to uh procure for your lovely wife. Lukisha Well,
Speaker 1: two phrases that have entered my life in the last year,
Speaker 1: and I'm of the opinion they probably entered American pop
Speaker 1: culture within the last couple of years. These phrases did
Speaker 1: not exist a few years ago. They are made up,
Speaker 1: like the couple shower was made up in the nineteen nineties,
Speaker 1: just to satisfy the fact that women are taking much
Speaker 1: more control than men in relationships than they were back
Speaker 1: in the day. Whatever happened to Gary Cooper, he died
Speaker 1: as Cooper getting a push gift because here's the thing.
Speaker 1: We're married. Now, okay, we have limited unless you were
Speaker 1: you're well off. We're coming from the same financial pool here.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you something as a young father, as
Speaker 1: you guys all are, Um, it's expensive. Should we be
Speaker 1: buying a big hunk of jewelry when a child's on
Speaker 1: the way. I don't buy jewelry as a general the
Speaker 1: gift thing, I like that idea the baby. I think
Speaker 1: people are doing that somewhat. I don't like putting like
Speaker 1: a name and in a requirement on the baby, like
Speaker 1: you probably went away with your wives while she was
Speaker 1: pregnant at some point, just to take a break, because
Speaker 1: that's what people do. It may not have been branded
Speaker 1: yet the right it's it wasn't. It wasn't hey because
Speaker 1: you're pregnant. It's like, hey, this is our last chance
Speaker 1: to do something maybe for a little bit. I gotta
Speaker 1: get that going before the woman is pregnant, though, if
Speaker 1: you really want to go on a vacation and let loose,
Speaker 1: but then you don't know, suddenly you're pregnant and bang.
Speaker 1: If the like that, I guess the gift that it's
Speaker 1: tricky because it's it's like, you know, she's giving birth, Like,
Speaker 1: what gift is really going to measure up? And you
Speaker 1: can't give her a Barnes and Noble gift card or something. Well,
Speaker 1: i'd say, what are you telling? And I get, I
Speaker 1: get you can't really match the baby. I guess that
Speaker 1: you're creating these gifts about everything. But a push gift
Speaker 1: is a gift on top of the fact that a
Speaker 1: new life has been created. What are you telling the
Speaker 1: daughter or son that's arriving to the earth. You're good,
Speaker 1: but actually we need to get a trinket for it.
Speaker 1: Now the women do, they do amazing stuff, but it's
Speaker 1: like we're attacking a gift on top of new life.
Speaker 1: What are you telling the child? Like psychologically twenty years
Speaker 1: later that I mean, it's all fair, Mark that you
Speaker 1: bring it up. Wes. I'll throw out one for you.
Speaker 1: I know you're a guy. As you get older, you
Speaker 1: like to you know, sit back up jazz See what
Speaker 1: See how Lakisha likes it if you give her like
Speaker 1: a nice jazz mix c D a gift named West
Speaker 1: a CD like here are some jazz songs I like
Speaker 1: that I ripped onto a CD and here it is
Speaker 1: for you. You can make a playlist. I feel like
Speaker 1: I've already given physical data. I feel like I've already
Speaker 1: given her progeny and that's enough. But but you know,
Speaker 1: this is one of those you gotta pick your battles things,
Speaker 1: and I don't feel like something. Unfortunately you didn't. You
Speaker 1: just picked one. I think because she listens to the
Speaker 1: podcast and I don't think she's gonna like the previous
Speaker 1: three minutes here. Yeah, but you do give her. She
Speaker 1: doesn't care. I think your battles you're allowed you want.
Speaker 1: But you're doing everything she asked every single time in
Speaker 1: this this arrangement. I'm not hearing you win any battles.
Speaker 1: So oh, I don't take those the battles that I win,
Speaker 1: I don't take public jazz mixed. That's why I walked
Speaker 1: into the newsroom today and Keisha immediately got on my
Speaker 1: case for giving her some sort of grief. I don't
Speaker 1: even rememb member in the last show. So I just
Speaker 1: want to say, I'm on the side of the push gift.
Speaker 1: So you're pandering once. It's just it's the typical Greg
Speaker 1: Leverpool pander to whoever is controversial, and hope it doesn't
Speaker 1: seem totally fraudulent. Yeah, that's exact opposite of what Greg
Speaker 1: told me on several walks home from bars and ouch
Speaker 1: and Greg, you're here. You you're potentially in the mix
Speaker 1: of jury duty. But do you think the and so
Speaker 1: far they haven't needed you. Do you think they're aware
Speaker 1: that you were by nature contrary? And I think even
Speaker 1: you would say you like to mix it up and
Speaker 1: I'm not tell the story from both sides. You're even
Speaker 1: not a contrarian. On top of um, do you think
Speaker 1: the l A court systems like, we don't want that
Speaker 1: guy in a jury room. I hope we gotta. We
Speaker 1: gotta have light of cases. We gotta keep moving through
Speaker 1: the system. Here. Well, I I did get called for
Speaker 1: a big dog biting trial just four years ago, so
Speaker 1: they my reputation. I guess I didn't perceive me then,
Speaker 1: But I gotta I got good a deal from someone
Speaker 1: to get out of jury duty, which I had never
Speaker 1: heard before. And I think this is a good advice. Uh,
Speaker 1: just stare at the lawyer. Just just stare them down,
Speaker 1: Just stare them down while they're going through everything to
Speaker 1: the point where it's like awkward, and they they'll they'll
Speaker 1: never pick you like people are like, Oh, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: like pretend that I'm you know, you know, really angry
Speaker 1: about like, you know, whatever the case, niece right exactly.
Speaker 1: It's like, but you don't want to do that. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be you don't want to be lying.
Speaker 1: You don't want to be making up a story you're acting.
Speaker 1: But this idea where he says, if you just stare
Speaker 1: down the lawyers and just be weird about it, they'll
Speaker 1: just be like, I don't want this guy. Tell us
Speaker 1: how that goes? All right? Well, good luck, good luck?
Speaker 1: All right, today's show. Uh, we're spending the QUB car rself.
Speaker 1: What's been it's been a bit, we haven't done this
Speaker 1: in a while, and what how fun is it? Ricky,
Speaker 1: Let's spend the QB carousel? Because has there ever been
Speaker 1: a better QB carousel this time of year? I say
Speaker 1: no way, especially the news that became official yesterday of
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers. Now he's definitely in the mix. So maybe
Speaker 1: a game. Maybe we'll we'll see how how close we
Speaker 1: can get to nailing all these guys. Maybe we'll we'll
Speaker 1: kind of right now, make it. What's that mark? I
Speaker 1: don't know, I mean if I'm just driving around and
Speaker 1: I heard just the last sentence that you, yeah, what
Speaker 1: I say? Erica understands. She she played the appropriate centli
Speaker 1: So I'm mature. Um. So we're gonna go through every player, UH,
Speaker 1: talk about what makes sense logically when they're they the
Speaker 1: carousel stops, where they could head, where they should head,
Speaker 1: where they will head before we do that. Some news
Speaker 1: I plan to play football, So yeah, I mean again,
Speaker 1: where where that's going to be. I think we'll get
Speaker 1: sorted out over the next what is it, three months?
Speaker 1: I guess I've never been in this position. I don't
Speaker 1: I usual don't even know when the league youre starts
Speaker 1: and when all those things are, so we'll just kind
Speaker 1: of see again. I'm very thankful for the sixteen years
Speaker 1: and and and if there's another, I'll be thankful for
Speaker 1: that one. Ah. Yes, those are the words of Philip
Speaker 1: Rivers at the conclusion of the regular season UH over
Speaker 1: a month ago. And yes, the path yet remains completely
Speaker 1: clear for the veteran quarterback. After the team and Rivers
Speaker 1: mutually agreed that the quarterback will enter free agency and
Speaker 1: will not return to the Chargers. The team announced that
Speaker 1: on Monday, and UH statement went as follows from Tom
Speaker 1: to LESCo the GM. After stepping back a bit from
Speaker 1: last season, we reconnected with Philip and has represent representatives
Speaker 1: to look at how the twenty nineteen played out, assess
Speaker 1: our future goals, evaluate the current state of the roster,
Speaker 1: and see if there was a path forward that made
Speaker 1: sense for both parties. As we talked through various scenarios,
Speaker 1: it became apparent that it would be best for Philip
Speaker 1: in the Charges to turn the page and what truly
Speaker 1: has been a remarkable run. Greg. I know you have
Speaker 1: been outspoken on social media that maybe the Chargers haven't
Speaker 1: given Philip Rivers the respect he deserves. How did you
Speaker 1: like how yesterday played out? I mean they tried to
Speaker 1: go out in their mind in front of it. We
Speaker 1: already kind of knew this was happening. There wasn't much
Speaker 1: more they could do. The statement that that ownership gave
Speaker 1: was very strange. Um, but I think it sort of
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I guess at this point how how they
Speaker 1: handled it, they clearly wanted to go in a different direction.
Speaker 1: Rivers seems like he's fine with that. One thing that
Speaker 1: really struck me was Eric Weddles comments that he was
Speaker 1: really excited when he left the Chargers to find out
Speaker 1: what or other organizations are like. And I think Philip
Speaker 1: Rivers has probably that instinct with him too. He's talked
Speaker 1: to a lot of X Chargers who have played on
Speaker 1: other teams, and it's a case where it really is mutual.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Chargers didn't want him, but I think
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers is ready to at least see what see
Speaker 1: what's behind door number two, if there's anything good. I
Speaker 1: think that one of the biggest misperceptions out there is
Speaker 1: that because he's got this house in Florida, he's definitely
Speaker 1: going to a Florida team. And Mike Garrett Folo touched
Speaker 1: on this. People actually think that people believe that he's
Speaker 1: going to the Bucks because he's got a house in
Speaker 1: and Mike Garrit Folo talked about he said, I've been
Speaker 1: told to ignore geography altogether with Philip Rivers that it
Speaker 1: really means nothing to me. The Colts seem to make
Speaker 1: the most sense. But I'm sort of interested in this
Speaker 1: because there was a scenario if one or two plays
Speaker 1: goes differently in that game where Tyrod Taylor is warming
Speaker 1: up on the sideline ready to go in for him,
Speaker 1: there's a scenario where he's benched for the final two
Speaker 1: months of the season. Hence his value was perceived a
Speaker 1: little bit differently on the free agent market. This is
Speaker 1: the guy that Charges have and ready to move on
Speaker 1: from for a while. We we watched that moment in
Speaker 1: that game together, the Chargers game, and I always felt
Speaker 1: like there was a lacking and a lagging support from
Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn and the coaching staff down the stretch, and
Speaker 1: we talked about what does Belichick want Tom Brady back.
Speaker 1: I think Anthony Lynn was a factor in this too,
Speaker 1: and it just strikes me that and Greg, I think
Speaker 1: he brought this up last week and it is a
Speaker 1: very Chargers esque. Um San Diego into l a transition thing,
Speaker 1: but the departure of Nick Foles from Philadelphia after one
Speaker 1: amazing one or two amazing seasons there, I get what
Speaker 1: he did was ten times more news were the and
Speaker 1: drawing more magnetized hot takes and opinions and what happens
Speaker 1: next than this where he sort of floats on from
Speaker 1: a team he's been the ultimate iron man from from
Speaker 1: for a decade and a half. Because they've lost their
Speaker 1: fans in between, and you know, he's a San Diego guy.
Speaker 1: It is crazy that there's a lot of stats that
Speaker 1: are inflated because of the era you play in. You know,
Speaker 1: Rivers is six I think in touchdowns and yards all time. Uh,
Speaker 1: but he's also ethan wins and not a huge QB wins.
Speaker 1: You know, but that that's not a stat that's inflated
Speaker 1: because of era, and it really does show how how
Speaker 1: long and how much he's played and how much they've won.
Speaker 1: The charges that he's the eighth most winning quarterback in
Speaker 1: NFL history is kind of When I saw that, I
Speaker 1: was almost I was shocked by that, But it makes
Speaker 1: sense considering how many straight games he's played. I'll miss him.
Speaker 1: I'll miss him if he doesn't get it. He seems
Speaker 1: like he has a decent, at least a chance to retire.
Speaker 1: I feel really, I think he has no interest in retiring,
Speaker 1: But I just don't know. And we'll we'll get to
Speaker 1: the wheel if there's definitely a starting job therefore him
Speaker 1: that the carousel. Is he gonna want to keep playing
Speaker 1: to be someone's backup. I don't know. Here's a what
Speaker 1: if for the ages. I know this is kind of
Speaker 1: Dave as he's getting a job. I'm guaranteed that guarantee
Speaker 1: is getting a job. Maybe some of the lack of
Speaker 1: starting job fan Fair save for the carousel um is
Speaker 1: because obviously you made the point about San Diego never
Speaker 1: won a super Bowl. If he wins the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: with the Chargers in two thousand seven, I wonder if
Speaker 1: there's like a whole other universe where that the what
Speaker 1: comes from winning a Super Bowl and the fans swell
Speaker 1: and all that stuff if they ever leave San Diego. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen, you know, what Peyton Manning did
Speaker 1: for the city of Indianapolis, what Brett Farve did for
Speaker 1: Green Bay, things like that, where you know there are
Speaker 1: massive economic impacts. I can't think of a quarterback leaving
Speaker 1: a team who's done more for the team where the
Speaker 1: team did not even nearly enough for Philip Rivers compared
Speaker 1: to what he did for them, and that he leaves,
Speaker 1: and it's like a fart in the wind. It's like
Speaker 1: there couldn't be it could ride up press release. It's
Speaker 1: I don't want to defend the Charges, but I will
Speaker 1: say this that they are in a different position than
Speaker 1: you can't. Like, look at what the Giants, which just
Speaker 1: did with Eli and be like, well look at the
Speaker 1: they gave him a press garbage and threw him a parade. Well,
Speaker 1: Eli was done, he was retiring. It's a little awkward
Speaker 1: because Rivers they don't want him to be their quarterback anymore,
Speaker 1: but he wants to go be a star quarterback for
Speaker 1: somebody else, And that's a little tricky. But you would
Speaker 1: hope that when this is all over, whether it's in
Speaker 1: a year or two or three, who knows with Rivers
Speaker 1: that there is eventually a press conference and the Chargers
Speaker 1: do it the right way. But I guess we'll have
Speaker 1: to wait to see. I mean that the crazy set
Speaker 1: in terms of lack of support. As I went back
Speaker 1: and looked at the PF pass blocking grades last few years,
Speaker 1: the charges were thirtieth and thirty first the last two years,
Speaker 1: which is one reason why I think Tom Brady should
Speaker 1: not go to the Chargers if if there is interested.
Speaker 1: As says Uh, they haven't had an above average pass
Speaker 1: blocking offensive line of carding to PF since two thousand seven.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's twelve straight seasons of UH of inadequacy.
Speaker 1: That's it's pretty it's pretty amazing that he held up
Speaker 1: and that he succeeded as much as he did with
Speaker 1: with that in what was mostly a bad running game, too,
Speaker 1: did his and maybe the metrics you're referring to it
Speaker 1: could be explained, But did he as a one of
Speaker 1: the most classic stationary capacitors of his generation, maybe the
Speaker 1: prototypical guy. Would that lead to your offensive line numbers
Speaker 1: being hurt because he wasn't somebody that was able to
Speaker 1: move or are those things? Shouldn't it definitely? Well, in
Speaker 1: PFF's grades, they would say no, because they're grading individuals
Speaker 1: that play to play basis and Rivers I think it's
Speaker 1: best trade is I think his defining trade is how
Speaker 1: good he is versus pressure. I don't know if there's
Speaker 1: a single quarterback of the last twenty years who stands
Speaker 1: in there and throws against pressure, Well, he doesn't take
Speaker 1: a lot of sacks. Stone Age Ponies tend to make
Speaker 1: their lines look less attractive, but I don't care. He
Speaker 1: was not a guy who took a lot of sacks.
Speaker 1: Though Stone Age Ponies were in a different era now
Speaker 1: than we were five years ago and ten years ago.
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks like Rivers, Tom Brady, Peyton, Manning, Eli Manning all
Speaker 1: standing Stone Age Ponies by your definition, made their offensive
Speaker 1: lines look so much better because of what they did
Speaker 1: before the snap. Well, so there's a difference between Dano
Speaker 1: has a quick release and he's a stone age pony,
Speaker 1: then Joe Flacco just getting massive curred because he also
Speaker 1: can't read the field quick enough and he and he
Speaker 1: cannot move and he cannot save himself. Joe Flacker was
Speaker 1: never in Rivers and Brady and the Mannings class as
Speaker 1: far as pre snap recognition. Like, when I say stone
Speaker 1: age pony, I'm not exclusively talking about like top ten
Speaker 1: quarterbacks of all time. I'm talking about slow guys who
Speaker 1: can't move in the pocket, whether they suck or they're great. Well,
Speaker 1: those guys aren't coming out of college anymore. Those guys
Speaker 1: basically don't exist anymore. And I think that's one of
Speaker 1: the reasons why this is the most extreme buyer's market
Speaker 1: we've ever seen at quarterback is because the game has changed.
Speaker 1: And where about five years behind the curve. Where five
Speaker 1: years ago NFL type said we can't trust offensive linemen
Speaker 1: to come into the league anymore in block defensive lineman,
Speaker 1: and now five years later they're saying we can't trust
Speaker 1: quarterbacks who can't make the first guy miss on pass rush.
Speaker 1: And I think teams are looking for a totally different
Speaker 1: quarterback now than they were five years ago. I was
Speaker 1: out of town this weekend West m but you know
Speaker 1: I stayed attached to the West coast via the Graham.
Speaker 1: I just gotta say that slow motion walk on Abbot Kitty,
Speaker 1: Well that was something else. Who with the with the
Speaker 1: jackets slung over your shoulder and the aviators of the sun,
Speaker 1: you know, shining off the aviators and Lakisha with that
Speaker 1: luscious Beyonce Lemonade hair. Whoa power couple. Well, I think
Speaker 1: this is all because of phone technology now, Like there
Speaker 1: was nothing scripted about that moment. It's simply what phones
Speaker 1: can make you look like now, saucy, all right, moving on, Yes,
Speaker 1: the carousels coming up. Speaking of the carousel, Taysom Hill,
Speaker 1: you know Taysom Hill. In fact, the NFL Twitter got
Speaker 1: a little crazy yesterday because um Taysom Hill and the
Speaker 1: and the discussion about where he stands, what his future
Speaker 1: is in the NFL, what he can do, and Hill
Speaker 1: stoke those flames. In a recent interview with The A
Speaker 1: P had this to say, I definitely view myself as
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback. I think as you look at the
Speaker 1: other questions, is it New Orleans, is it New Orleans,
Speaker 1: New Orleans? Is it somewhere else? As you go into
Speaker 1: free agency, this is the time that you start to
Speaker 1: find out how people view you. We haven't gotten into
Speaker 1: free agency long enough to really know how these guys
Speaker 1: view me, and we'll just handle it as it comes.
Speaker 1: These Saints have three quarterbacks hitting free agency, Drew Brees,
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater and Taysom Hill. Hill doesn't sound like a
Speaker 1: guy mark that uh it wants to do the thing
Speaker 1: where he throws the ball five times and runs fifty
Speaker 1: plays all season anymore. Well, he's not twenty two, and
Speaker 1: I think that if you're him and you're looking at
Speaker 1: the trajectory of your chances to become a starter, it's
Speaker 1: sort of a cell high moment because he was the
Speaker 1: most magnificent player in that Saints Vikings game they lost.
Speaker 1: But I haven't heard that. No one has brought that
Speaker 1: up last, but he does. Every time he kind of
Speaker 1: touched the ball, he did things that you want see
Speaker 1: more and returning thirty, I don't know. It's gonna take
Speaker 1: a team of a specific type of faith in looking
Speaker 1: at Taysom Hill that way. I know people like to
Speaker 1: point out Mohammed Sanu has more past attempts than Taysom Hill.
Speaker 1: I get it. But there's a song a lot of
Speaker 1: that's a good one though it's true. But but every
Speaker 1: time they've used he's got more row too, different different situation.
Speaker 1: But I would, I would, if I could pick, would
Speaker 1: like to see Taysom Hill and we'll get into this
Speaker 1: stay right where he is and be maximized in a
Speaker 1: different way than last year and maybe hit up hit
Speaker 1: a double headed quarterback system. But he's he's not. It's
Speaker 1: a These quotes are weird because he's not a free agent.
Speaker 1: He's a restricted free agent. And if and it seems
Speaker 1: to me that Sean Payton is just trying to create
Speaker 1: a market for him because they would love someone to
Speaker 1: give up a pick for Taysom Hill. I guess what
Speaker 1: kind of Sean Payton spoke with, you know, spoke with
Speaker 1: with what was it the Peter King podcast or whatever, saying,
Speaker 1: you know, hey, like he if someone wants to go
Speaker 1: get him, you know that that if we put a
Speaker 1: first round pick on him, like that is just you
Speaker 1: know what we would have to get back, you know,
Speaker 1: for for him to to move on if they did
Speaker 1: put a first round pick. I mean, no one's giving
Speaker 1: up a first round pick for Taysom Hill. I have
Speaker 1: because I just don't. I think if you look at
Speaker 1: the history of the history is very rich here. What
Speaker 1: people have given up picks for a guy with that
Speaker 1: little experience throwing the ball in the NFL. There's there's
Speaker 1: no reason for me to think that any I don't
Speaker 1: think anyone would give up a third round pick, uh,
Speaker 1: necessarily for Taysom Hill. But it doesn't. It's sort of like,
Speaker 1: who are these teams out there? You don't know until
Speaker 1: the until it happened, right And I think that's what
Speaker 1: Sean Payton and Taysom Hill and his agent are trying
Speaker 1: to do is create a market because to me, Sean
Speaker 1: Payton spoke with actions. I mean, Drew Brees was not
Speaker 1: on the field for five straight weeks and Taysom Hill
Speaker 1: didn't play, and so he he tried to me, I
Speaker 1: do not believe that you're a starting quarterback in the
Speaker 1: NFL right now, no matter how many time people he's
Speaker 1: been telling you think that would play out again next
Speaker 1: year at the same can we put it in context
Speaker 1: that he paid teddy Bridgewater more than any backup in
Speaker 1: the league, and he already made that bed, so he
Speaker 1: had to lie. But you play, you play who you
Speaker 1: think is gonna win you your games. I mean he
Speaker 1: paid seven million dollars to Teddy Bridgewaters, just adding context
Speaker 1: to his decision. It wasn't as simple as you make it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it is, though. I think he's trying to
Speaker 1: win and he thought Teddy Bridgewater is the best chance
Speaker 1: to win. You imagine Mark, imagine Wes and Greg both
Speaker 1: on the same jury but having different opinions on something
Speaker 1: and then the other. Uh. I mean, I'm on team
Speaker 1: get out of be a. That could be like a
Speaker 1: vague traffic ticket that stays in l A court systems
Speaker 1: for the next You misread my motivation. It was not
Speaker 1: a jury. My I am on team get home as
Speaker 1: soon as possible, you know whatever. That whatever, team justice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't care if you're gonna put an innocent man
Speaker 1: behind home. If it's a dog biting civil trial, no,
Speaker 1: I don't care. You know whatever everyone's going with, let's
Speaker 1: get out of here. I don't think West would let
Speaker 1: you get out of the deliberation room that easily you
Speaker 1: would fight for justice. We have no leadership in this country.
Speaker 1: What's my motivation for serving on a jury in doing
Speaker 1: a civic duty when no one else in this country?
Speaker 1: Al Right, everyone's out on this, this choreci chore. Next topic,
Speaker 1: you've you've stated Mark that you'd be totally cool. Like
Speaker 1: a seven month homicide any issues scenario A one of
Speaker 1: these cases that just becomes more explosive, multi layered, and
Speaker 1: it's like, guys, I know that we said this would
Speaker 1: only take a month, but were now to put you
Speaker 1: up in a hotel. You can't see anyone else from society.
Speaker 1: You can only hang out together, and this is gonna
Speaker 1: go in like eighteen nineteen months. Maybe a trial of
Speaker 1: the decade, if not, something that makes the o J
Speaker 1: trial look like a doge of the distance. Yeah, something
Speaker 1: that it's not just about the people in the case.
Speaker 1: You hold up the mirror and there's America. I mean,
Speaker 1: you come out of it talking to like Larry King Jr.
Speaker 1: You come out of it with like two or three
Speaker 1: two or three books that you self like, you know,
Speaker 1: and when you're allowed to talk after you just do
Speaker 1: the talk show circuit. I mean, I'm a assuming Larry
Speaker 1: King would be gone by the time this would be happening.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing this happens ten years from now. Um. Moving on,
Speaker 1: the Sports Business Journal has an interesting report that the
Speaker 1: NFL may add flex scheduling to the next Monday Night
Speaker 1: Football contract. Interesting uh. The SPJ reports that the NFL's
Speaker 1: asked teams for feedback on moving games from Sunday to
Speaker 1: Monday during the season. The league asked teams questions like
Speaker 1: how much notice they think they would need to prepare
Speaker 1: a move from Sunday afternoon to Monday night and uh,
Speaker 1: it should be known that any such change could not
Speaker 1: be made and would not be made until the new
Speaker 1: TV contracts are agreed upon. The current ESPN Monday Night
Speaker 1: Football deal runs through and the league's Sunday deals with
Speaker 1: CBS and Fox and NBC THROUGHO. So this is kind
Speaker 1: of a down the road type thing, and it made
Speaker 1: me think, once again, there is and we talked about this.
Speaker 1: It's it's gone kind of quiet on this front. But
Speaker 1: it bubbled up last month that ESPN was perhaps preparing
Speaker 1: or had prepared a massive contract offer for Tony Romo
Speaker 1: um and ostensibly he would join Monday Night Football and
Speaker 1: be their lead analyst. You would think if if you're
Speaker 1: making that type of offer, maybe they want a situation
Speaker 1: they would be all for obviously, and maybe there'd be
Speaker 1: a real push to give Monday night football. Uh, it's
Speaker 1: identity back as one of the premier games of the week,
Speaker 1: which it has lost. It still hits every once in
Speaker 1: a while, four or five games a week where they
Speaker 1: it is truly one of the best games the week.
Speaker 1: Anything is they lost are big games this year than
Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football in the end, but that was it
Speaker 1: was a good year for them, right, But in general,
Speaker 1: since Sunday Night Football really took hold, Uh, in the
Speaker 1: last ten fifteen years, Monday Night Football has been on
Speaker 1: the short end. Well, they found a way to turn
Speaker 1: what you know growing up was the premier weekly football
Speaker 1: event into something not very special. I would love to
Speaker 1: see Monday and Football treated the same way we treat
Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football. I think in the past it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: but what if you had tickets for Sunday and now
Speaker 1: your family has to go. And it's like these people
Speaker 1: that go to these games go to them no matter
Speaker 1: what they're gonna go. It's it's majorly um detrimental to
Speaker 1: ticket buyer. It's just making the choice, which is a
Speaker 1: common one, that the TV audience is way more important
Speaker 1: than a family go into a game. But it is,
Speaker 1: and it already kills you. If you're if you're if
Speaker 1: you're changing from Monday to Sunday and you and you
Speaker 1: planned a trip, that's fine, but they've already told us
Speaker 1: that the family matters a lot less than the television
Speaker 1: audience in every single scenario. I would do two Monday
Speaker 1: night games, and I would have Saturday tripleheaders from Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: to the end of the year and lighten that insane
Speaker 1: Sunday slate where you can't possibly keep up with all
Speaker 1: the stuff that's happening at once. Go back to my
Speaker 1: old idea of two football games to day. Um, I
Speaker 1: don't really like this idea Saturday Sunday. I used to
Speaker 1: like two football games a day once the season starts.
Speaker 1: The math works, uh all season, two games a day,
Speaker 1: just Saturday, just for Saturdays. When college goes dead, Thursday
Speaker 1: Night football. I understand it's never gonna go away. It's
Speaker 1: the most important program that we have on this network.
Speaker 1: And and you know, I'm also on supportive things that
Speaker 1: pay the bills here. Um, Monday is gonna be always
Speaker 1: gonna have a game Sunday night. I get it, that's
Speaker 1: the showcase. But Sunday should still be a big slate
Speaker 1: of games. That's that's what you know. The NFL's found out,
Speaker 1: found it out. I don't like this, like breaking it
Speaker 1: up too much. Well, the only thing is, what about
Speaker 1: on this Sunday week sixteen when somehow, because of the
Speaker 1: TV finagling, like the best game of the day is
Speaker 1: stuck at like ten am Pacific time when there should
Speaker 1: have been an extra slot to put these We had
Speaker 1: a great header this year in uh in one of
Speaker 1: those late weeks on Saturday. Yeah, maybe throwing one, maybe
Speaker 1: one or two more of those. Also addressing this report
Speaker 1: was that they would it sounds like, at least to me,
Speaker 1: it's interesting, move it back to ABC, take it off ESPN,
Speaker 1: or that would be on both interesting moving ESPN has
Speaker 1: a lot of nerves. They want to flex into better games.
Speaker 1: I want to flex into a much better broadcast on
Speaker 1: Monday nights. Please, Well, it needs to be part of it.
Speaker 1: We'll find out what's going on there. That's all kind
Speaker 1: of hanging in the air. Uh, not hanging in the
Speaker 1: airs that Jacksonville Jaguars plans um to play in London
Speaker 1: in twenty The Jaguars announced this happened last week, but
Speaker 1: we did not get to it. The Jaguars announced that
Speaker 1: the Jags will play two of their home games at
Speaker 1: Wembley Stadium over consecutive Sundays in twenty making them the
Speaker 1: first team in NFL history to play two home games
Speaker 1: outside the United States in the same regular season. Uh
Speaker 1: the team will touchdown on London to play an additional
Speaker 1: home game to the one international matchup they've traditionally played
Speaker 1: as host in recent seasons, and the move, according to
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, demonstrates a major step forward in the franchises
Speaker 1: on owing commitment to the U K fan base. And
Speaker 1: I would say Wes that if you are a Jacks
Speaker 1: fan living in Florida in that area of Jacksonville Duval
Speaker 1: that despite the team telling you don't worry, don't worry,
Speaker 1: we're not going anywhere, We're invested in this area, we're
Speaker 1: not looking to move. Well, now you're there for two
Speaker 1: weeks straight. To me, it sends a message that they
Speaker 1: really are looking at this thing as an option in
Speaker 1: the long term. So you see it as sort of
Speaker 1: a first step on the way. It's like a foothold, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, they've been building that foothold for years, and
Speaker 1: it's like the next move. It's almost like the second step.
Speaker 1: It's like the first step. Let's let's go there every year.
Speaker 1: Let's do a lot of pr work to try to
Speaker 1: get our foot in there. So there's a lot of
Speaker 1: Jaguars jerseys in London that weekend. Now here's the second step.
Speaker 1: We're staying there for two weeks. We're giving up what's
Speaker 1: the math a quarter of their inventory. Hey, you don't
Speaker 1: of your home games now we're back to back weeks.
Speaker 1: You don't build your colony on Mars the first trip.
Speaker 1: You gotta establish a foothold and then do it gradually
Speaker 1: if you're gonna make them. It's a it's a very
Speaker 1: tricky balance. Immediately, Jaguars fans, there was an outcry. There's
Speaker 1: a fan group that's formed, like this coalition, you know,
Speaker 1: tens of thousands of people signing it and trying to
Speaker 1: have their rights there because they're they're losing a game.
Speaker 1: And one of the more salient points that I saw
Speaker 1: the some of the fans, because we're never getting that
Speaker 1: game back. I mean that game is very likely gone
Speaker 1: for good. So now we're at six and is it
Speaker 1: gonna go to four? And of course you know the
Speaker 1: worry would be that it goes to nothing. And Shot
Speaker 1: Khan and the Jaguars are trying to balance this of
Speaker 1: keeping the jack Jacksonville fans happy, and they're saying, well,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a small market. We we can't. It's
Speaker 1: been tough selling all the tickets, so this is like
Speaker 1: one less game to sell. But that it's very tricky.
Speaker 1: It does remind me a little bit of the rams
Speaker 1: Um in St. Louis, where they sort of felt like
Speaker 1: they had one foot out but had to pretend like
Speaker 1: they didn't for a long time. They ranked Jacksonville in
Speaker 1: terms of tradition and support among the thirty two franchises. Well, tradition,
Speaker 1: it's low because it's you know, one of the but
Speaker 1: I think it's deserved to have a team in cities,
Speaker 1: deserved to have a team in the NFL. Their fan
Speaker 1: base is very strong. I think I think they have
Speaker 1: a very passionate fan base. But if you're the problem
Speaker 1: is you have Shot Coom. When they write the history
Speaker 1: of a team. Finally, going to London, there will be
Speaker 1: chapters written about Shod Khan's involvement no matter what happens
Speaker 1: with the Jaguars in the end, But his interest in
Speaker 1: growing the league, which is very much in line with
Speaker 1: the NFL, has nothing to do with how Jaguars fans feel,
Speaker 1: no matter how much we view their support from their
Speaker 1: hometown there slowly methodically in their minds getting fleeced out
Speaker 1: of two games here, it's not just one, it's two.
Speaker 1: It's two games a year. And if you're an owner, though,
Speaker 1: when you think if I could just wipe this slate
Speaker 1: clean and five years from now we could be in
Speaker 1: London dealing with Wembley and Tottenham in these rapid fan
Speaker 1: growing fan base, or do I want to plant a
Speaker 1: team in Jack's feel I think the answer would be clear.
Speaker 1: And there's a natural tension there because Jacksonville is starting
Speaker 1: to feel in the rear view mirror he was not
Speaker 1: their founding owner, and in In Cohn has done it
Speaker 1: as much as he can to try to assure them.
Speaker 1: The NFL loves it too, because the NFL is losing,
Speaker 1: you know, teams that want to go over there and
Speaker 1: give up a home game with the Rams and the
Speaker 1: Chargers and the Raiders all having new stadiums. Those were
Speaker 1: like ripe teams to force to go to London. Now
Speaker 1: that Jaggers are saying, hey, we'll take two. That's two
Speaker 1: of the four games they're gonna try to have there
Speaker 1: that they're going to have next year, and that that like,
Speaker 1: everyone is happy about that, except for Jacksonville fans. West
Speaker 1: name the Alabama quarterback who suffered the hip injury but
Speaker 1: was a phenon before that. Yeah, what's his last name?
Speaker 1: To a taga via LOOA pretty good something like that. Correct,
Speaker 1: I call him to a T. But that was well,
Speaker 1: that was well pronounced by West as far as I know.
Speaker 1: On this show, we call him to A and to
Speaker 1: a scan shows has fractured hip has healed, which is
Speaker 1: great news because, as I just said, he was entering
Speaker 1: the nineteen college season and the nineteen NFL season the
Speaker 1: guy that everyone was talking about even more than Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow as this guy that you would scam for, the
Speaker 1: guy that you would tank for. Uh. And then he
Speaker 1: got this terrible injury and there was questions about whether
Speaker 1: he'd be able to get his full term full uh,
Speaker 1: you know, full level of health and it looks like
Speaker 1: he will be. Uh. So the three months CT scan
Speaker 1: on the fractured hip positive as possible. Uh, it's healed.
Speaker 1: According to rap Sheet, the hip and its range of
Speaker 1: motion are good and it will be another month before
Speaker 1: he's cleared for football activities. Rap Sheet added just a reminder,
Speaker 1: and this is good Move the Stick season. That's why
Speaker 1: I think it's smart. I just saw recently that there's
Speaker 1: a podcast to Move the Sticks podcast. It makes sense
Speaker 1: that it's something that they roll out solely during the
Speaker 1: draft and they and they just keep it from let's
Speaker 1: say February through uh the first week of May, and
Speaker 1: then you know, obviously you make it disappear then until
Speaker 1: people care to hear you again. Oh year around Poteah.
Speaker 1: There are reports that they had to wage on through
Speaker 1: the entire actual pro football season. To your kidding, Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, clearly interest probably dries up a little bit
Speaker 1: during that party year. But this is a good time
Speaker 1: of year, the time the correct it. You are supposed
Speaker 1: to say tongue to start and then so tongue to
Speaker 1: a no tonguo violoa. So he he has he has
Speaker 1: spelled it out a few and I'm just catching up
Speaker 1: in this too, but yeah, tonguo viola. And keep in
Speaker 1: mind that's starting at five. You have a run of
Speaker 1: three teams who appear to be in desperate need of
Speaker 1: a quarterback, the Dolphins, the Chargers, and Panthers five, six, seven,
Speaker 1: So to uh, I feel like he's probably gonna be
Speaker 1: on one of those teams. I don't want to go
Speaker 1: full Jeremiah here uh and mocked that thing out. I
Speaker 1: think you're right. I think the Lions are the X
Speaker 1: factor whether the Lions would consider taking him, and then
Speaker 1: if not, that the Lions trade that pick and someone
Speaker 1: moves up to grab him. There. What do you say
Speaker 1: every year, Mark, I don't want to hear these quarterbacks
Speaker 1: are going six, They're going first and second, somebody's going
Speaker 1: to trade up for Well, we spent three months, you know,
Speaker 1: arguing about Kyler Murly last year, and it's just like
Speaker 1: just fast forward to when it's actually happens the way
Speaker 1: we all know it will. They're gonna go top three,
Speaker 1: top four. The lines are in a perfect point. When's
Speaker 1: your draft coming out? Your mock draft? I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I like to gather information and work with sources, and
Speaker 1: farm already I give information back and get it. There's
Speaker 1: already on the site. So you're following by m j
Speaker 1: D just had his mock today. You know, we're we're
Speaker 1: hurting for content so much on the network that MJD
Speaker 1: released his mock and then other people talked about it
Speaker 1: today on NFL. Now, I'm not sure you're framing mg
Speaker 1: D in the most positive light there, Greg With I've
Speaker 1: said he wasn't even on to We're just like he's
Speaker 1: doing the now that Mayox out of the game as
Speaker 1: the GM of the radars. But he did the step
Speaker 1: right into everybody do your little cute mock one point
Speaker 1: oh two point oh, seven point oh twelve point oh
Speaker 1: to Mayock bang drops it right before the draft. That's
Speaker 1: the that's the mock. That's I believe what you're gonna be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think when you know, you want to
Speaker 1: pull from masters, when you're learning to do things your
Speaker 1: own way. Now, I'm gonna add my own original spins
Speaker 1: all this, but I think that the Mayock timeline works.
Speaker 1: There's mean to be releasing one on February eleventh. No,
Speaker 1: there's only a one point oh when it comes to
Speaker 1: the sets, right and uh, Eric Wettle retires after thirteen seasons.
Speaker 1: The thirty five year old safety announced his retirement last
Speaker 1: week after thirteen seasons with the Chargers. Ravens and Rams
Speaker 1: didn't even have a single surgery. It's my favorite Wettle
Speaker 1: Staddy had a great career, five time All Pro UH
Speaker 1: in fact, but he had his first surgery earlier this month.
Speaker 1: He did a little shave down in the knee area
Speaker 1: before that. Never at a position as physical as that
Speaker 1: to play as long as he had, Some people were
Speaker 1: born to play the sport. And I think he had
Speaker 1: a quote that really put into context, like what it
Speaker 1: takes to play in the NFL. He said, the idea
Speaker 1: of getting ready for another NFL season made me want
Speaker 1: to throw up. That's when you know it's time. When
Speaker 1: you look at the like Pro Football Reference comparisons comps
Speaker 1: for where someone is after how many years like Wettill
Speaker 1: played Steve Atwater, Willie Wood from the Packers, Johnny Robinson
Speaker 1: from the Chiefs, and Johnny Shell from the Steelers, all
Speaker 1: four of them Hall of famers, five All Pro UH,
Speaker 1: five times. You know first and second team combined that
Speaker 1: those guys usually have a pretty strong chance to get in.
Speaker 1: I think Mett might be a tougher because there's so
Speaker 1: many things that he did that are tough to define.
Speaker 1: But I I appreciated you know, of course when you
Speaker 1: retire people say nice things about you, but the kind
Speaker 1: of the intensity of it from his teammates, especially as
Speaker 1: as him as kind of one that kept their defenses
Speaker 1: together on whatever team he was, he seemed like he
Speaker 1: got about as much respect as as any player or
Speaker 1: any safety, at least in the league. Little closer from
Speaker 1: Kevin Patron NFL dot com. Famously known for chowing down
Speaker 1: ice cream after wins with his family, now, Wettle has
Speaker 1: plenty of time for Sunday desserts as he enters the
Speaker 1: next phase after an illustrious NFL career. That's a pro
Speaker 1: Kevin Patra. See what he did there were Sunday Oh
Speaker 1: that well meaning Kesha told me that Patra is so
Speaker 1: efficient on morning news that the people in the desk
Speaker 1: can't even keep up with him, can't it. I mean
Speaker 1: the guys, I mean we all did it. We all
Speaker 1: did it. And once you once you really start to
Speaker 1: get into the groove of it, there's a skill. He's
Speaker 1: been doing it for how long? Now, Well, I would
Speaker 1: I would part of it I think he's solidly written
Speaker 1: more articles for NFL dot com than anyone else ever
Speaker 1: in the history of NFL. He's got it, and maybe
Speaker 1: he's because we've stopped doing that. He may be lapping
Speaker 1: people at this point. I'm not kidding. If you looked
Speaker 1: it up, I would not be surprised. Yes, I have
Speaker 1: to the question. I'll ask the question. You're famously yourself
Speaker 1: not a fan of counting stats. Does that mean anything
Speaker 1: to you? What the fact that patra is the most
Speaker 1: read writer in the history website? That not that that
Speaker 1: he's written the most articles. Yes, it means something. There
Speaker 1: are many times wrote an article that we would have
Speaker 1: had to write instead, So it means a lot to me,
Speaker 1: and I will be sending him gifts, gifts of thanks.
Speaker 1: Has there ever been a more worthless gift than a
Speaker 1: psychological gift of the mind? Probably not. Not only efficient
Speaker 1: and durable, but he's valuable enough that they've kept him around.
Speaker 1: I mean nobody has retired him. Don't discount Pat Kerwin
Speaker 1: and terms of those pages, because back in the day,
Speaker 1: it's like they only had three articles a week, and
Speaker 1: two of them were Kerwin's. He's dominating that website from
Speaker 1: the ratio best competition. It was like two for Kerwin
Speaker 1: and let's uh, let's get old Gil in here, Vick Carucci,
Speaker 1: me Patris doing that by am. That's how they called
Speaker 1: Curlin the ratio goat, which never really caught on, but
Speaker 1: I didn't catch on. Finally, in the news, XFL debuted
Speaker 1: this weekend and there was if you, um we care
Speaker 1: to pay attention. People seemed to be over overly um
Speaker 1: I balanced. People seemed to be happy with the product
Speaker 1: or pleasantly surprised with the product from the XFL. I
Speaker 1: was in a situation I had to go back home
Speaker 1: for a family situation. We lost a loved one, and
Speaker 1: um so in those situations for instance. So the service
Speaker 1: was on Friday, then Saturday, I'm at my parents place
Speaker 1: with my brother and really nothing to do, so we
Speaker 1: ended up watching uh the Dragons Defenders Tilt. Watched the
Speaker 1: whole game, the oh the whole thing. Those are teams.
Speaker 1: I thought that was a movie. You were to hold
Speaker 1: that thought because I'm gonna get to that in a second.
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, that would have been my takeaway too
Speaker 1: that the um it looked professional in terms of the
Speaker 1: presentation and the play wasn't terrible. Did I feel like
Speaker 1: I needed to watch four quarters of card L Jones
Speaker 1: scrambling and then trying to hit a receiver breaking off
Speaker 1: his route. No, that felt excessive at this time of year.
Speaker 1: But also I didn't see an embarrassing level of play.
Speaker 1: I didn't watch a ton of a a f the crowd.
Speaker 1: The crowd was not huge anywhere, but you know, they
Speaker 1: looked like they were getting about twenty thousand for the
Speaker 1: first week. But the thing to keep in mind for
Speaker 1: all this stuff, and Greg, I know you probably choose
Speaker 1: some tape on this is don't don't judge a league
Speaker 1: like this after week one. Let's get to about week five,
Speaker 1: weeks six, and see where the attendance numbers are, where
Speaker 1: the attrition rate is, uh, see what the level play
Speaker 1: is at, because this is that's when he gets really
Speaker 1: difficult to launch a league to zero tape. Unlike Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: who watched a lot of that, well, so to me,
Speaker 1: I was wanting not to like it. I was hoping
Speaker 1: not to like it because I don't need a lot
Speaker 1: of you know, other stuff happening football wiys in February.
Speaker 1: But watched it with my two young boys and they
Speaker 1: enjoyed it, and they want to go to an l
Speaker 1: A game and all this stuff. I think they It
Speaker 1: was for the four highest rated sports events of the
Speaker 1: weekend in that critical eighteen to forty something category they're
Speaker 1: looking for. So it's like if you can get kids
Speaker 1: hook but it was there. You're not going up against
Speaker 1: the World Series like NBA, you know, national games with
Speaker 1: big teams. One thing, I thought the coaching seemed to
Speaker 1: be better than some of these other experimental leagues, and
Speaker 1: it does. You are how do you get sucked in
Speaker 1: if there's no actual stars. If you're US and you're
Speaker 1: watching typically NFL, you're looking for new fans. I think
Speaker 1: they are one thing. They can blow up the NFL
Speaker 1: rule book and say we want to we want to
Speaker 1: do what we want. You have an extra point scenario
Speaker 1: where you can get one, two or three points based
Speaker 1: on how far you want to go out of the
Speaker 1: end zone. That's a good idea And like that's the
Speaker 1: thing though, is that's still a novelty a month from now?
Speaker 1: Does anyone care? From now? Uh? I kick off stuff? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think it could be a good breeding ground for
Speaker 1: trying different coaching and officiating. You know, Blandino is the
Speaker 1: head of officiating. You want to talk about get a
Speaker 1: nice little paycheck. Yeah, he is the head of officiating
Speaker 1: for the XFL and he's involved with the broadcast, which
Speaker 1: is pretty good get for them. They're they're slogan when
Speaker 1: it comes to replay review is less stall and more ball.
Speaker 1: And I'd be remiss not to say that the game
Speaker 1: that I did watch, uh West, because you're pumping your fist.
Speaker 1: But there is a consequence the less stall and more ball.
Speaker 1: They have the guys miked up and on camera during
Speaker 1: this process, and clearly the dude and one of the
Speaker 1: replayers was rushing it because less stall, more ball, and
Speaker 1: he blew the call because he only looked at it
Speaker 1: twice and he was like, oh, this is a tough one.
Speaker 1: Uh stick with the call on the field, and it
Speaker 1: was plainly wrong. A rusher was laying on top of
Speaker 1: a defender and he spotted the ball as if his
Speaker 1: knee was down. He'd prefer to take six minutes to
Speaker 1: make the wrong call. I just give me the right
Speaker 1: call at the end of the day, give me the
Speaker 1: right you're not getting it. I'm sorry, but replay has
Speaker 1: made more wrong calls than before replay. Diana Rassini, who's
Speaker 1: all over the place. They there, They have this whole
Speaker 1: ESPN side sideline thing where they get the people immediately
Speaker 1: after the play, which is going to lead to things
Speaker 1: like this. There's just a lot of time after play.
Speaker 1: We're trying to make someself happen, and they're doing at
Speaker 1: question shopping. We're trying to go, So that's gonna happen
Speaker 1: a lot. Pepper Johnson got fired by the l A
Speaker 1: Wildcats their DC after one game, and uh my my
Speaker 1: last comment. You'll know the XFL is making progress when
Speaker 1: there aren't articles on our website about week the week
Speaker 1: that happened, when there aren't when there aren't because in
Speaker 1: the nfl B like, oh, these guys are real competition
Speaker 1: eradicate ll knowledge of the good point. And lastly, my
Speaker 1: my power rankings of the team names. There are eight
Speaker 1: teams Ricky Umber eight St. Louis Battle Hawks. I don't
Speaker 1: like any one word name. That's two words and then
Speaker 1: there's two capital letters capital What are the Hawks supposed
Speaker 1: to be battling each other? Seven the DC defenders? Is
Speaker 1: it all about the defense? You know? It just seems
Speaker 1: six the l A Wildcats. I just feel like Wildcats
Speaker 1: pretty well done. At every college basketball in l A.
Speaker 1: There's plenty Bogers brocrossing the highways. Five the New York Guardian,
Speaker 1: Inglewood New York Guardians, defenders and guardians feels like what
Speaker 1: what job? But track of my to be a guardian
Speaker 1: for a sport? I will. I will give them the
Speaker 1: security guards. No New York slash New Jersey thing, which
Speaker 1: all these start up leagues can't get over that hump.
Speaker 1: They just went in New York for the Houston Roughnecks.
Speaker 1: Not bad, not bad. It's a little too close to Rednecks,
Speaker 1: but gonna do. Number three the Dallas Renegades, not bad.
Speaker 1: I feel like I've heard it before, but it's fair.
Speaker 1: Number two Tampa Bay Vipers. That's good and nice logo
Speaker 1: to that's I have a snake pit motif if you're
Speaker 1: nine year old. Luke jumped on Vipers right away and
Speaker 1: I was trying to, like I said, this is the
Speaker 1: second Tampa Bay team with suspect uniforms, didn't care, went
Speaker 1: right down that hole. And number one congratulations, congratulations me
Speaker 1: And at times the Seattle Dragons, who just hankering for
Speaker 1: power rank something It's just like I need to power
Speaker 1: rank dragons number one? Does it great? Solid? Just get
Speaker 1: people talking solid. I don't know. I was expecting something
Speaker 1: a little more from the wilderness. That's what's happening in
Speaker 1: the news. Hey, Ricky Hollywood, Happy birthday, Happy birthday. How
Speaker 1: was birthday? Number was good? Yeah? I didn't make the
Speaker 1: seven club, but I guess that's something to be happy about.
Speaker 1: As then you didn't die, right, Yeah, No, that's great,
Speaker 1: But that also means like I'm not a generational talent.
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean I mean there are generational talents who made
Speaker 1: it beyonds true. Cartney is still kicking. There you go.
Speaker 1: So that's according to something you have to live for now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you want to be the McCartney now at this point.
Speaker 1: Anything else to report from the birthday? No, it was good.
Speaker 1: A bunch of dinners and bar parties and you invite
Speaker 1: the fellas. I was out of town, but I didn't
Speaker 1: because I wanted to do a dinner with us when
Speaker 1: all of us can be together. I knew you were
Speaker 1: out of town. West is going out of town. Greg
Speaker 1: won't show up, you know, I just have to start, Okay,
Speaker 1: figure out a time. So does that mean the Ricky
Speaker 1: Birthday week is actually continuing then, Yeah, in a way.
Speaker 1: I mean it's not fair that my birthday is right
Speaker 1: after Super Bowl. You know, everybody does their own little things,
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't expect you guys to you know, you've
Speaker 1: just been away from your families for a week, and
Speaker 1: it's good to extend it. Get any extra thirsty podcast
Speaker 1: listeners that sent a birthday wish that was maybe a
Speaker 1: little too much, Um, none that we're well, a couple
Speaker 1: of d ms in the Instagram dams that were a
Speaker 1: little but but but the other ones that were like
Speaker 1: very public, you know, tweets and all that. I appreciated
Speaker 1: them so much. It was so nice. I told you
Speaker 1: they'd love you. Yeah, you always worried that they wouldn't
Speaker 1: love you. But they love you. Yeah, we love you. Well,
Speaker 1: that's that's all that matters. Let's spend the QB carousel.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's get this right. Let's because what's today,
Speaker 1: the eleventh of February, one day after the tenth, which
Speaker 1: was Erica's birthday. That's correct, two eleven twenty. I'm marking
Speaker 1: it right now. Let's kind of put our heads together
Speaker 1: and make some predictions. Here too. Let's start with Bill Rivers.
Speaker 1: There was a report greg out there that the Bucks
Speaker 1: are legit in Yeah, that was from the ESPN Bucks writer.
Speaker 1: I feel like our network has been downplaying that more.
Speaker 1: Mike Garfolo and Ian they they seem to believe that
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston Is is likely to be back with the Bucks.
Speaker 1: Just one of these things needs to change and then
Speaker 1: it all can go crazy. I'm a little worried that
Speaker 1: the carousel won't really be spinning that much. But Rivers
Speaker 1: is the one we know is out there in Indianapoli.
Speaker 1: If the Colts really went for Rivers, then that then
Speaker 1: that is fun. Give me some Philip Rivers in Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: That's what I want to have. That one feels like
Speaker 1: it's going to happen, doesn't it. He's Frank Reich, He's
Speaker 1: already worked for several times his offensive coordinator for the
Speaker 1: charge of Nick Sirianni, the Colts coordinator, is an actual
Speaker 1: good friend of Rivers. Is in a buddy like they
Speaker 1: hang out. So the Colts, to me, one of the
Speaker 1: reasons why this happened the way it did with the Chargers,
Speaker 1: because Rivers already knows he's gonna end up in or
Speaker 1: at least that's an option for him, a question that
Speaker 1: bucks fans at least they're acts asking, I think as
Speaker 1: fair as would Philip Rivers, even being upgrade over Jamis Winston. Um,
Speaker 1: And I think that's a fair question asking. And if
Speaker 1: you're in Indianapolis, is Philip Rivers enough of an upgrade
Speaker 1: over Jacoby Brissette? My answer would be yes. I do think.
Speaker 1: I think he has a chance to still play pretty well.
Speaker 1: But this is a thirty eight year old who who,
Speaker 1: even as I'm defending him, did not have a good
Speaker 1: he didn't. You want him in a dome stadium where
Speaker 1: his arms, the decreasing arm strength isn't as big of
Speaker 1: a factor, and you want him behind a good offensive
Speaker 1: line like the Colts half. I don't know. Bad Philip
Speaker 1: Rivers is that different or any better than Jamis Winston
Speaker 1: if you get the bad version, if you get a
Speaker 1: more increasingly declined version, I don't know why arians is
Speaker 1: signing up for that. All right, I can't see it.
Speaker 1: Let's let's send Rivers to Indianapolis. That's good, right, lock
Speaker 1: it in. By the way, you're the first person Dan
Speaker 1: who I did say that back, and it makes sense.
Speaker 1: It made sense then, it still makes sense now and
Speaker 1: they can kick the can a little bit the Colts
Speaker 1: and figure out who their long term guy is. They
Speaker 1: can draft someone. I'm throwing one wild card out there.
Speaker 1: I'm not pushing for because I won't get con census
Speaker 1: the Raiders Gruden and Rivers for one or two years,
Speaker 1: maybe just one. Is that an upgrade over Derek Car
Speaker 1: I am not saying that it is a huge upgrade,
Speaker 1: but it feels like something that Gruden it's signed up for. Well,
Speaker 1: it feels like every quarterback we're going to mention Gruden
Speaker 1: would sign up for that. He likes his veteran So
Speaker 1: I don't think the Gruden Gruden in a year old.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like we're gonna go through these free agents,
Speaker 1: and I think that the potential trades out there, like
Speaker 1: Car or Cam are the or folds even or take
Speaker 1: some hell if if you if you want to believe
Speaker 1: in that Cam's the wild card. I think are all
Speaker 1: kind of wild cards where if one of them gets traded,
Speaker 1: if if Car is suddenly gone or available, that then
Speaker 1: that changes everything. All right, let's spin it, and uh,
Speaker 1: this is a big name. Obviously, Tom Brady, and I'll
Speaker 1: start with this one. I'm just I would be stunned
Speaker 1: if he ends up anywhere else. So I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: that carousel stops and he sticks right where he is,
Speaker 1: even if he also moved his house and headed out
Speaker 1: of state. He's not long for New England either way,
Speaker 1: but for another year, especially if they end up poning
Speaker 1: him up, puning up the thirty million or whatever. And
Speaker 1: again the Patriots, and it also gives them the opportunity,
Speaker 1: like the Cults, to draft a quarterback and start developing
Speaker 1: someone this time though for real it didn't work out
Speaker 1: Jimmy g because Brady just kept playing. But this time
Speaker 1: they actually would be grooming a young kid for the future.
Speaker 1: Brady stays in New England. Who disagrees, who agrees? Want?
Speaker 1: I think? I think he wants to be wanted in
Speaker 1: this process might address some of that and then have
Speaker 1: New England come out in a total pantomime show and say, yes,
Speaker 1: we're gonna pay you a lot. Yes, you know, the
Speaker 1: quote was weapons at He wants stuff at it around him.
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to be in last year's offense. I
Speaker 1: think all that New England is the best situation for him,
Speaker 1: for him to seamlessly not start over the new playbook,
Speaker 1: work with Josh McDaniels, and hope that you get it right.
Speaker 1: Probably the best situation for the Patriots. Are they really gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, do better than him at it could be difficult.
Speaker 1: I don't buy the talk that he's gonna the idea
Speaker 1: that he could make it to free agency and this
Speaker 1: has been on our network too, and see what he's
Speaker 1: worth and then come back. I mean, if you're talking
Speaker 1: about I want more weapons and um, you know he
Speaker 1: wants the team around him to be good. If he
Speaker 1: gets the free agency and comes back, they have to
Speaker 1: pay whatever Tom Brady's gonna cost plus thirteen and a
Speaker 1: half million in dead cat money. It makes no sense.
Speaker 1: I just can't see Bill Belichick operating like that. I
Speaker 1: think the Patriots at some point will have to be
Speaker 1: will have to say if you reach free agency like
Speaker 1: we're moving on, they either get the deal done before
Speaker 1: free agency starts or not, because otherwise it makes no
Speaker 1: sense to bring him back plus thirteen million dollars of
Speaker 1: fake money. He lord knows he's earned the benefit of
Speaker 1: the doubt, but I'm still floored by how much benefit
Speaker 1: of the doubt he's getting compared to other quarterbacks. I agree,
Speaker 1: And people keep mentioning the Titans in a you're the Titans.
Speaker 1: Why in the world you've got Ryan Tannehill, who you're
Speaker 1: probably going to keep, who can escape pressure, who's athletic
Speaker 1: and can hit passes down the field, and you're gonna
Speaker 1: move on from him for the Tom Brady who played
Speaker 1: in two thousand nine, I don't see that. The only
Speaker 1: the only issue there is that any of the thirty
Speaker 1: one other owners would sign up for scenarios like that.
Speaker 1: In many cases where Tom Brady changes everything people think
Speaker 1: about your team for the next year. From a coaching angle,
Speaker 1: I do wonder like if this is one where the
Speaker 1: insiders don't have a good read on it, kind of
Speaker 1: like Peyton Manning back in the day, because it's such
Speaker 1: a big deal. But if you believe that the insiders
Speaker 1: had to read on it, it really feels like it's
Speaker 1: just Chargers of Patriots that there, that there's not going
Speaker 1: to be the level of interest um by any other team,
Speaker 1: and even that the Chargers feel like a pretty big
Speaker 1: underdog in that scenario. All Right, Drew Brees spend the
Speaker 1: castle Mark Drew Brees to me, a staying with the
Speaker 1: Saints are doing nothing else. He's sort of made that clear,
Speaker 1: and so I think that they're bringing him back. And
Speaker 1: he had very interesting comments where he basically said if
Speaker 1: they want to give Taysom Hill, for instance, twenty five
Speaker 1: or thirty touches, that he'd be open to that. And
Speaker 1: I do see what I'm hoping for. What my wishless
Speaker 1: item would be a Hill Breeze two headed combo sting
Speaker 1: your butt offense where you don't know if it's gonna
Speaker 1: come by land or through air or how and you
Speaker 1: put them both on the field a bunch and you
Speaker 1: just go Sean Payton fever dream scenario and you don't
Speaker 1: get rid of either. I don't. I just think Breeze
Speaker 1: would never wind up anywhere else. That's my guests. But
Speaker 1: retirement would be the other option. Well sure, but I'm
Speaker 1: saying with another team like him, going to the Charges
Speaker 1: would be very a nice way to wrap all that,
Speaker 1: but that's gonna Happeneah. Basically, I'm he's trying to throw
Speaker 1: the retirement stuff out there is a real thing, and
Speaker 1: and people who uh, you know, cover the game, like
Speaker 1: Bugger McFarland said, he thinks Breeze is gonna retire. There's
Speaker 1: some Saints fans that that buy. I feel like this
Speaker 1: is the only leverage that Breeze has is to say
Speaker 1: he's gonna retire. And I really do think the end
Speaker 1: game for them is they're they're trying to get rid
Speaker 1: of Taysom Hill. Why would they want to get rid
Speaker 1: of Taysom Hill? Because I can't really figure out why
Speaker 1: they've been trying to art, like, you know, inflate his
Speaker 1: stock otherwise, because why do you, I mean, don't you
Speaker 1: think that I know there's all these conspiracy theories that
Speaker 1: Sean Payton has been doing this for three years, inflating
Speaker 1: his stock. He called him Steve Young in August, way
Speaker 1: after contract negotiation is done. There's no leverage. I don't know,
Speaker 1: like the equivalent of like Michael Lombardi talking of Ryan Mallett.
Speaker 1: There's you know, there's a here's a point against or
Speaker 1: for the cell of it all that he called it
Speaker 1: Steve Young in August. Drew Brees busts up his thumb
Speaker 1: in week two and then you put the other guy
Speaker 1: in there. You didn't put him, but the different next
Speaker 1: next September on a team for three years. Though this
Speaker 1: is not a young player in the air. He's been
Speaker 1: with the Saints on the roster for three years. I
Speaker 1: don't know what if it's not a leverage thing and
Speaker 1: he just gets over excited about quarterbacks and toys like
Speaker 1: Jon Gruden always has. Some coaches just like to throw sunshine. Well,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Or maybe he's trying to pacify Taysom Hill,
Speaker 1: who is now said publicly he believes he's a franchise
Speaker 1: quarterback and if the Saints don't see me that way,
Speaker 1: then maybe I should be playing elsewhere. I think he
Speaker 1: clearly is interested in seeing if there's a team out
Speaker 1: there that wants him. I just some skeptical that that
Speaker 1: they will, especially they put a first round tender on him.
Speaker 1: Forget about like seeing what he did against the Vikings
Speaker 1: and seeing how he's like you. In my notes almost
Speaker 1: every game, I'm I'm writing, Saints need more Taysom Hill.
Speaker 1: Why would Sean Payton say I gotta get rid of
Speaker 1: this guy? I don't. I don't understand that for for
Speaker 1: who would be on the final year first round? Can
Speaker 1: they afford to pay both those guys? Well, he's a
Speaker 1: restricted free agent, so he'll beach. What does that mean exactly?
Speaker 1: So they just need to put a tender on him
Speaker 1: for or or a second or or the original round
Speaker 1: one and it's a low one year contract that they
Speaker 1: can keep Tasom Hill for it will be a hand
Speaker 1: free million hand for like three million dollars something like that.
Speaker 1: Or they can put a second round tender and see
Speaker 1: if they can and you're not paying Teddy Bridgewater Hill.
Speaker 1: Where is is he back in north? That's my thing
Speaker 1: is both Saints. I just say, I think you double
Speaker 1: down on what was beginning to be a very good
Speaker 1: thing and you can navigate out of stormy waters. I
Speaker 1: look at the Chargers and Panthers. Is two possibilities. The Chargers.
Speaker 1: There's as much as people keep putting Tom Brady on
Speaker 1: the Chargers, it doesn't make any sense to me since
Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn is quite clearly one of a more athletic
Speaker 1: quarterback behind center, which Taysom Hill would be. And if
Speaker 1: the Panthers get rid get rid of cam Newton, seems
Speaker 1: like Taysom Hill could be a good experiment for a
Speaker 1: franchise that is looking to be pretty progressive in the
Speaker 1: way they think. Alright, Cam Newton West, this is the
Speaker 1: wild card, and I think I'd leaned toward him staying
Speaker 1: with the Panthers. But I've noticed for about six months now,
Speaker 1: every time he and Rappaport talks about this, he refuses
Speaker 1: to say Cam Newton's gonna be back with the Panthers.
Speaker 1: And if you parse it a little bit, it just
Speaker 1: seems like it's coming from upstairs. It's coming from the
Speaker 1: very top of the flow chart that maybe they're ready
Speaker 1: to turn the page. And yet if you don't have
Speaker 1: anybody to replace him, how do you get rid of
Speaker 1: a guy with his talent, even though he's a wild
Speaker 1: card both in the quarterback picture and with his health
Speaker 1: and what kind of quarterback he's gonna be going forward.
Speaker 1: I thought they would want to keep him because why
Speaker 1: not see what he looks like in this new offense
Speaker 1: and then and then move on after that if it
Speaker 1: doesn't work. But man, Mike Garrett follow you know, talk
Speaker 1: about it today, almost said it a matter of factly
Speaker 1: that Cam is going to be available, like he is
Speaker 1: going to be available. And to me, the Chargers, I
Speaker 1: just love this combo. This is the guy to open
Speaker 1: your stadium with. This is a guy that Anthony Lynn
Speaker 1: I think could get behind you, even got Tyrade behind
Speaker 1: him somehow kind of fits like Cam to the Chargers,
Speaker 1: Let's fly. He couldn't. It could totally not work, but
Speaker 1: I feel like it could be a big swing worth taking.
Speaker 1: It's kind of played out, almost has played out as
Speaker 1: much as Taysom Hill was the best player in the field.
Speaker 1: And the playoff game is that the Chargers desperately needs
Speaker 1: somebody to open up that new building with that they
Speaker 1: could sell tickets around and Tom Brady would be the
Speaker 1: number one guy. Cam would be somebody that you that
Speaker 1: would bring some juice there, absolutely and something that if
Speaker 1: you're a Chargers fan, if you're if it's a bittersweet
Speaker 1: situation with Phil Rivers, if Cam has a nice spring
Speaker 1: and his arms looking good, and the and the and
Speaker 1: the vibe is upbeat around him, yeah, that that makes
Speaker 1: a lot of sense to me. I kind of like
Speaker 1: that idea that charges again. It works whenever I think
Speaker 1: about Cam Newton in a different uniform. This is it
Speaker 1: keeps coming up as Chicago Bears. Why. I just think
Speaker 1: that they need to make they desperately. Now do I
Speaker 1: trust that the Chicago will self examined to this to
Speaker 1: the degree of realizing they need to have a different
Speaker 1: situation at quarterback. But I just love the idea of
Speaker 1: cam New in Chicago for no no more reason than that.
Speaker 1: I don't you can connect them to the Chargers, but
Speaker 1: there's not any facts surrounding them with that either. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily love him on the Chargers just because
Speaker 1: the Chargers with the Bears. I would put them more
Speaker 1: in that Titans club of a year ago, where they
Speaker 1: might get like a Teddy Bridgewater put them behind. Then
Speaker 1: I'd have to ask what are you doing? Like, what
Speaker 1: are you doing a quarterback? If you're going to I
Speaker 1: kind of I kind of have this image of I
Speaker 1: I don't mind a world where it's Teddy Bridgewater and
Speaker 1: Jared Stidham for the a f C East champion Patriots.
Speaker 1: Let's just get weird. That would be that, that would
Speaker 1: be so what are we doing with Camden? What's our
Speaker 1: final decision? We're putting them on the Chargers. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's def two I'll agree, but I am in this
Speaker 1: case where we have different viewpoints. Obviously, so the Panthers
Speaker 1: makes sense. Uh, if you want to go there the Chargers.
Speaker 1: I like that. Greg does as well. Marcus saying the Bears, Uh,
Speaker 1: so that you do not like that. I can tell
Speaker 1: by the tone of your what about I just don't
Speaker 1: think it's lead based on what we know and with them, well,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of stuff that happens is unknown
Speaker 1: at this point, like the idea that what we know
Speaker 1: what we have very little reporting around any of this.
Speaker 1: Like the Raiders. You could do almost threw the Raiders
Speaker 1: for every team, but I maybe John Gruden would be
Speaker 1: interested in Cam Newton. That would that would be fun.
Speaker 1: Maybe the Jaguars, I think they're probably gonna go forward
Speaker 1: with Gardner Minshew, but could they be an X factor
Speaker 1: like in all this too, get spicy Jaguars, Dak Tannehill
Speaker 1: both staying with their teams. I assume we believe in
Speaker 1: Tannehill just uh signed fired his agent sexs to be
Speaker 1: a guy's agent, and then right as they're at a
Speaker 1: major pay day, he went c A. There's been no
Speaker 1: indication that he would be leaving, and I think that
Speaker 1: the Titans Brady connection has been pretty summarily dismissed um
Speaker 1: not just by West but by a few few others.
Speaker 1: So I think it doesn't make any sense. It doesn't
Speaker 1: make any sense, and finally Jamis Winston spin the carousel
Speaker 1: of doom where Jamis Winston. My fear is that all
Speaker 1: these guys are going back to their teams. It's not
Speaker 1: going to be as fun as we think. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put him on the Raiders. Let's let's have John
Speaker 1: Gruden get wild and just think he can be the
Speaker 1: man who Oh my god, Jamis Winston in that combination.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if it's so perfect because Ruden's
Speaker 1: pulling out his hair because his quarterback won't take any shots.
Speaker 1: So he goes all the way on the other side
Speaker 1: of the spectrum. He gets the guy who is chemically
Speaker 1: addicted to taking shots at all times. And you know
Speaker 1: they finished seven and nine either way. Derek Carr then
Speaker 1: goes to the Panthers. I mean, why not cars a
Speaker 1: bit of what I mean. I don't know how you
Speaker 1: sell Winston as a starter anywhere outside of Tampa Bay,
Speaker 1: where they believe because the GM drafted him that they
Speaker 1: can stick with him. I think he's staying in Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1: I know he messed himself up a little bit there
Speaker 1: with those last two weeks, but remember the reporting out
Speaker 1: there eight days before the season was over. Is that
Speaker 1: Tampa was all good. We're good. He's our guy. He's
Speaker 1: coming back. That's a that's a league leader in yards
Speaker 1: and interceptions, Jameis Winston. You're talking about five thousand, one
Speaker 1: hundred yards like second in touchdowns, second touchdowns. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: throw one world two yards for attempt one wild card.
Speaker 1: I would be willing to bet a sandwich that Matthew
Speaker 1: Stafford is not the Week one starter in Detroit and
Speaker 1: not on the Lions roster, and that's where that's where
Speaker 1: the sandwich prop ends. But my guess right now and
Speaker 1: where I can see him again, It's just like keeps
Speaker 1: coming to mind, is Matthew Stafford your Week one Chargers starter.
Speaker 1: I love what you're doing to hear with the Stafford
Speaker 1: not on the Lions thing. But I'm gonna take the sandwich. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I will take the sandwich as well. I will too,
Speaker 1: But I think you gotta I think you gotta shy.
Speaker 1: Why what is the I would love to get a
Speaker 1: little bit more background and why there's this buzz about
Speaker 1: Matthews Staffords having it, because there was buzz last year
Speaker 1: before the draft, which I there was posturing and maybe
Speaker 1: that's that's all it was. But you are sitting in
Speaker 1: a prime scenario at number three to get one of
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks and kind of start over. And I think
Speaker 1: that not that you're thinking about Matthew Stafford, but I
Speaker 1: can't think of a quarterback who might suddenly take it
Speaker 1: up a notch by being on a different team in
Speaker 1: a different organization. If we say that about Philip Rivers,
Speaker 1: I certainly feel a way about the Lions, but I
Speaker 1: think the Lions might be ready to move on with
Speaker 1: something different at quarterbacks. I'm not. It's not because he stinks.
Speaker 1: It's not because he's a detriment to especially on defense.
Speaker 1: But five totally unpredictable things happened between now and the
Speaker 1: drift you believe to who is gonna be the you
Speaker 1: know everyone thought was going to be the number one
Speaker 1: overall draft pick before this, you know, hip injury in
Speaker 1: Burrows rise. You know, if you believe in him as
Speaker 1: like a generational type of guy, it's it's not a
Speaker 1: crazy thing, and you can get a lot for Matthew Staffords.
Speaker 1: I think there are people who believe to even after
Speaker 1: the hip injury, has a much high your ceiling than
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. I would love to see if I was
Speaker 1: Alliance fan and I I liked and thought that Matthew
Speaker 1: Stafford had three to five, you know, great years left
Speaker 1: to take that pick and leverage it to have end
Speaker 1: up having three or four first round picks in this
Speaker 1: year and next, and then restocked that defense, which has
Speaker 1: been a disgrace. That's fine. All I'd say is you've
Speaker 1: got to trust the front office to do that. I
Speaker 1: think they can't. I don't have to trust them. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like if I was so, it's big
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford and the Lions since two thousand and nine,
Speaker 1: and they feel to me like the same team the
Speaker 1: entire time. That's all I'm saying. I'm just build build
Speaker 1: a real team around the guy, or do that ten
Speaker 1: years ago. I'm with you, I'm not, but they never
Speaker 1: have some maybe this would be an opportunity to really
Speaker 1: redo that roster the right way where we move on.
Speaker 1: Can I Can I spend the wheel one more time? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got a couple of guys, but here's one that
Speaker 1: just keeps getting disrespected. How about the old red rifle.
Speaker 1: It's not a wheel, by the way, Carrots, It's a
Speaker 1: wheel shaped whatever happened to the red rifle? Hey, every
Speaker 1: it's like everyone forgot to exist. He's still under contract
Speaker 1: with the Bengals, very tradeable contract that the Bears the Bears.
Speaker 1: So you trade him, he's him on the Bears. I
Speaker 1: like that. And he's the guy who takes Mitch's job
Speaker 1: and then the Bears get better. That's how Ryan Pace
Speaker 1: sells this offseason. If you were a Bears fan, would
Speaker 1: you be excited about that better than not getting Andy Dalton?
Speaker 1: So we're solving our Mitch Drabinsky problem with with Andy Dalton. Yes,
Speaker 1: because you're getting Mitch Robinsky out of the building or
Speaker 1: out of that Well here's here's I got another one
Speaker 1: for you, potentially in Chicago. I just just thought of it.
Speaker 1: Let's spend the old carousel nick Foles for like a
Speaker 1: sixth round draft pick back to his buddy Matt Naggi
Speaker 1: where they buddies said they were together a little bit,
Speaker 1: and then he's the guy behind Mitchell. They're gonna try
Speaker 1: to like he's gonna to rid by week four, we're
Speaker 1: gonna try to dump. They're gonna try to dump Foles
Speaker 1: for they'll have to pay some of his salary too.
Speaker 1: It's just a disaster. But I don't think they're gonna
Speaker 1: want him. So guys left without a saddle here Brissette,
Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissette, Teddy Bridgewater, Hill, Marcus Mariotta, Joe Flacco, and
Speaker 1: I don't to be clear, I don't think Flacco is
Speaker 1: getting a sniff of a starting. A bunch of these
Speaker 1: guys are backups. It's it's a buyer's market, I think. Um.
Speaker 1: I think it's very hard Mark too, unless we want
Speaker 1: to put Mariota on the Bears too and solve their
Speaker 1: problem with Marcus Mariotta, because they think it's very hard
Speaker 1: if you're the Bears to find someone that's going to
Speaker 1: electrify the fan base this year. They're in a tricky
Speaker 1: situation where they're gonna keep the guy and hope he
Speaker 1: could figure it out. But if you can get somebody,
Speaker 1: I think Dalton is a like almost a perfect um
Speaker 1: comparison point to Tannehill from last year, where you have
Speaker 1: a guy you put behind him that you know has
Speaker 1: done it in the past, that if he gets comfortable
Speaker 1: and is in the right spot, they could he could
Speaker 1: be a guy that can help you win games and
Speaker 1: score points. He's not dynamic. He's not gonna he's not
Speaker 1: gonna be fat heads. Do they still make fat heads?
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be fat heads all over the walls
Speaker 1: of kids rooms in Chicago with Andy Dalton on it.
Speaker 1: But you never know, he might he might get hot,
Speaker 1: and he would be to me, a clear improvement over there. Well,
Speaker 1: on your side of the argument, Bears ownership seems allergic
Speaker 1: to creating a stir around their team, so that I
Speaker 1: do not. Andy Dalton fits perfectly with the wave, with
Speaker 1: what I seemed to think Bears owners. I would love
Speaker 1: to have a Dalton fat head with that red mohawk
Speaker 1: he used to be doing. Remember when he had the
Speaker 1: year and he went the red? I would what are
Speaker 1: you gonna do with this fat head? You know? I
Speaker 1: put it on the wall. That's what you do. You
Speaker 1: just gave longingly into Andy Dalton's eyes. Every not in
Speaker 1: my house. I don't see that happen, all right, don't
Speaker 1: worry Mark the Bears though, don't figure it out eventually.
Speaker 1: I am not worried for them. But the idea that
Speaker 1: we are only allowed to shove like raging mid tier
Speaker 1: mezzanine level passers onto the roster. It's like, are they
Speaker 1: not treating the same as any other I hope they
Speaker 1: they look back at what they said on New Year's
Speaker 1: Even and are embarrassed that they, you know, say Travis
Speaker 1: Ky is our guy for sure. Maybe they'll just change
Speaker 1: your mind. I'd applaud it. I think even Cam Newton, Yes,
Speaker 1: there's some sex appeal there of course with the name brand,
Speaker 1: but like, I don't know, to me, Andy Donalton might
Speaker 1: be a better fit for that situation of the quarterbacks
Speaker 1: that we're all that are driving the news ship right now,
Speaker 1: and all of it will be out of the league
Speaker 1: in two years. It's just name recognition, aging, name recognition quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: None of them are the future of the NFL. They'll
Speaker 1: all be gone within two years. I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: prepares for Tom Brady goes right, Breeze and Brady, but
Speaker 1: all these younger guys, the Kobe, you know, Dalton Um
Speaker 1: all right, will be back on Thursday with another show. Um,
Speaker 1: so make sure you're there for that and uh anything else,
Speaker 1: West have fun, enjoy yourself. When do you leave for
Speaker 1: Thursday morning? You gotta find somebody to film my chair.
Speaker 1: Well that's a test, that's a test, and we're going
Speaker 1: to do our best. Or it's like when you set
Speaker 1: a place out for Jesus sometimes I believe, or or
Speaker 1: a missing family member. You just put a thing where
Speaker 1: they would be eating. We do We do that with Wes.
Speaker 1: You just like cereal or something, get a chimp and
Speaker 1: send him here and see what happens. What's this kind
Speaker 1: of like a christ like figure for this podcast? Um?
Speaker 1: All right, let's go. Um. That note is Dan hands
Speaker 1: is signing off for Quiet Storm, Jesus Christ, the Old Boss,
Speaker 1: Ricky Hollywood, Behind the Glass Deel Thursday, m