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Speaker 1: I can't wait to get boat Talks. I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: it one day. It's coming. I'm so curious. I can't wait.
Speaker 1: So the cruise line that I do listen to this garbage.
Speaker 1: What a garbage human I am? There's a boat talx
Speaker 1: doctor on this cruise line. And let me plays no
Speaker 1: humans should ever get botox on a cruise, ever, on
Speaker 1: any cruise, On any cruise, you're in international waters, they
Speaker 1: don't need are not clean. Those syringes are not clean.
Speaker 1: On the buffet it's yellow than botox surrense. But I
Speaker 1: get a huge discount. Huge, So what I like, what
Speaker 1: are we talking like? More than off? Okay, hopefully don't
Speaker 1: do it on a windy day. They're like, they take
Speaker 1: it down, like the ninety percent off because you're just
Speaker 1: rocking back and forth. Um, but that's really funny. Um,
Speaker 1: but use it when you get back on those ships.
Speaker 1: I'm glad it's on the record, but um yeah, So
Speaker 1: I thought I'll go see a really good botox doctor.
Speaker 1: This is so not okay doctor. They're actual doctors. They
Speaker 1: a lot of them are surgeons and board certified plastic
Speaker 1: surgeons and ship but I thought about going to see
Speaker 1: a really fancy one top dollar video recording the entire process,
Speaker 1: of course, and then bringing it onto the cruise, giving
Speaker 1: it to the cruise doctor who may or may not
Speaker 1: have ever been to school, and making that doctor do
Speaker 1: the same thing. Can you imagine being the cruise doctor
Speaker 1: that hang out outside the office, the botox office, and
Speaker 1: see how those chicks are looking when they come out
Speaker 1: at the cruise. Yeah, really, you're right, skill should I
Speaker 1: don't know who. I can't imagine because of this particular
Speaker 1: cruise lines brand. I don't know who's getting on this
Speaker 1: cruise and then getting botox. But I feel like somebody would.
Speaker 1: But someone would do it, someone who would take their
Speaker 1: family on a cruise, like because a cruise is like
Speaker 1: a very specific type of vacation. That's like a yeah,
Speaker 1: they're like the for if you don't have an imagination,
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about cruise culture. And then here
Speaker 1: so much. My ex of seven years, his sister worked
Speaker 1: on cruises, like for a long time, so she would
Speaker 1: tell me all about like there's certain cruises that old
Speaker 1: people go on to die, Like it's a year long
Speaker 1: cruise and there's a morgue on it and they're like
Speaker 1: I just want to die seeing the world. And I'm
Speaker 1: like that's kind of cool. Um, like they're just sucking old. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But like the other crew, like family friendly cruises just
Speaker 1: sound truly terrible. There. It's it's weird. It's a double
Speaker 1: edged sword because I'm very happy when I'm on the
Speaker 1: cruise because my life is simple. I'm doing an hour
Speaker 1: of stand up every day. I'm like for a great
Speaker 1: audience in a perfect cruise like a perfect comedy environment.
Speaker 1: The sound is good, the lighting is good, the room
Speaker 1: is perfect. That's so it's like really actually wonderful. Oh
Speaker 1: that's nice to hear, but I would hope it would be.
Speaker 1: It's also like a very there's like you to witness
Speaker 1: a lot of not wonderful. There's like you know, the yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the humanity, the humanity on people who worked there for
Speaker 1: way less money, way less money than they should be,
Speaker 1: Like for six months at a time, I was trying
Speaker 1: to I was on the catch of cruse and I
Speaker 1: was trying to check in with all of them. I
Speaker 1: was like, if you just wink, if you need me
Speaker 1: to it there Also, like a lot of them are
Speaker 1: like gay. You get a lot of the cruise all
Speaker 1: these they're all these guys from you know, around the
Speaker 1: world and they can't be gay at home, and then
Speaker 1: they get on the boat and they're super horny and
Speaker 1: they're all trapped together and their way from their girlfriends
Speaker 1: or their wives or whatever. They're married gay men who
Speaker 1: are yeah yeah, yeah, and they might not even whatever.
Speaker 1: They're queer, they're bisexual, maybe they're straight, I don't know.
Speaker 1: But what's happening is there's like a lot of pent
Speaker 1: up sexual like weird, doesn't I haven't seen anything, but
Speaker 1: I can like feel it, feel this weird pent pent
Speaker 1: up sexual energy. Blow blow blow in the you know
Speaker 1: everything like that. That's a funny, Like Christopher Guests movie
Speaker 1: do you have to do? You have to eat in
Speaker 1: a separate space. So they treat me. I can't believe
Speaker 1: I'm talking about them, because they treat me. So I
Speaker 1: heard cruise comics that I've talked to their truly get
Speaker 1: treated really like they Everything seems great. I can basically
Speaker 1: do everything the guests can do, except you can be gay.
Speaker 1: You could only began the r rat shows. What is
Speaker 1: the exact verbiage they used when saying you couldn't? They
Speaker 1: did not put much in writing. Yeah, that was a
Speaker 1: heart to heart they have actually in the closet, you
Speaker 1: know what. It was very much. I understand why they
Speaker 1: did it. Now. It was a lot for my own
Speaker 1: protection because, oh my god, because next to the botox
Speaker 1: room is right exactly. Because when there were people depending
Speaker 1: on which port I went out of supports and Texas
Speaker 1: and Florida one, Florida fantastic. Even Alabama was great because
Speaker 1: you start to realize how people get to the cruise
Speaker 1: is really critical. Like, if it's a drive in port
Speaker 1: where people are not flying to get there, you're getting local.
Speaker 1: You're getting locals and more rural, uh like Texas. But
Speaker 1: if you have a port that like people are coming
Speaker 1: from all around the United States, like Flora or a
Speaker 1: then you get a much wider point of view. So
Speaker 1: when I did the Texas shows, no matter how I
Speaker 1: did it, when I could wait fifteen minutes into the
Speaker 1: set to say I was gay, I could do it
Speaker 1: right up top, there would be a cluster of people
Speaker 1: that would just get up and work, are you cool?
Speaker 1: My god? At the R rated show there are male
Speaker 1: comedians something the stool talking about there come everyone just
Speaker 1: talking about that lesson. Yeah, I get up on stage
Speaker 1: and I say I'm gay, and people just straight up
Speaker 1: So wait, a male comic can hump the state stool
Speaker 1: and say stuff about come on a cruise ship are
Speaker 1: rated show? And when I can't say you're gay, I
Speaker 1: can't say I'm yet. So it was because it's the
Speaker 1: audience's own prejudice and biases like that. They're like the
Speaker 1: people leaving and getting mentioned I was gay on the
Speaker 1: PG show which I had done by mistake, like I
Speaker 1: would slip the wrong pronoun into a joke because it's
Speaker 1: really you guys know, it's really hard once you have
Speaker 1: the timing on a joke to change she today or whatever,
Speaker 1: and like you also don't feel it in your heart
Speaker 1: and then you're aware. I have shame, deep shame triggered
Speaker 1: back in high schooling. I have a boyfriend another school.
Speaker 1: I have a boyfriend on another cruise actually who works
Speaker 1: a different cruise line. Um. But yeah, so it's it's
Speaker 1: weird but also wonderful because then on on those same
Speaker 1: cruis as the people who stay are like I have
Speaker 1: never seen I do these cruises every year, I've never
Speaker 1: seen a gay comedian like thank you. So sometimes they're gay.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they're just like cool people people like seeing diversity,
Speaker 1: yeah exactly, or they're just like you are so funny.
Speaker 1: I can't believe the other comedians aren't like you, Like
Speaker 1: there's just like there's lots of great people there too.
Speaker 1: So I do understand why the cruise line was like,
Speaker 1: you're gonna you cannot say you're gay at the p
Speaker 1: G show because some parent or grandparent is going to
Speaker 1: knock you out because okay in front of there. So
Speaker 1: the tone of them, it's not it's not really them
Speaker 1: policing you this cruise line so much as it's like, hey,
Speaker 1: this is gonna happenings really really want to make I
Speaker 1: can tell they want to make their comedy lineup more
Speaker 1: modern and this they know that that flies in the
Speaker 1: face of their clienteles. So I do also to it
Speaker 1: stronger impression. If they see you at a PG show,
Speaker 1: they think you're straight whatever, and then there you're really
Speaker 1: funny and then whatever. Years later when you're on Conan
Speaker 1: and you're doing something like oh she's gay, and then
Speaker 1: that's how you get straight people are biggots to be like, oh,
Speaker 1: gay people are humans. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I think the
Speaker 1: funniest part is the our show has become instantly twenty
Speaker 1: five times more gay than they would have been if
Speaker 1: I could just do some of my clean gay material
Speaker 1: at the PG show. But I can't, so I have
Speaker 1: to do a full half hour clean not gay, So
Speaker 1: it's basically just observational humor for a full half hour
Speaker 1: Seinfeld Ship exactly. So then you go and then they
Speaker 1: come to the R rated show, they're like, man, you're
Speaker 1: materials really gay and I'm like, it's actually not, It's
Speaker 1: just that I was Yeah, yeah after dark. The people
Speaker 1: who would walk out of the R rated shows when
Speaker 1: you tell the people that you're gay, would would they
Speaker 1: just like gently walk out? Like what was their demeanor
Speaker 1: like I'm killing cowboy hats? Yeah, a lot of it
Speaker 1: was those. It was older people. It was the older crowd,
Speaker 1: and yeah, they were upset. Um. I think it was
Speaker 1: more just like nope, not for me, and they would
Speaker 1: get up one time didn't. Yeah, there was no there
Speaker 1: was no heckling um. One time someone turned to someone else,
Speaker 1: and this was in the big theaters. One time someone
Speaker 1: turned to someone else and goes, you're gonna listen to
Speaker 1: this ship and then the audience member was like, what
Speaker 1: are you talking about? Like the person that he turned to,
Speaker 1: this dude is just a straight white male like button
Speaker 1: down looks like a Republican but like isn't not to
Speaker 1: say that whatever, But so this dude thought he was
Speaker 1: an ally of his and was like, you're gonna The
Speaker 1: dude was like, I don't understand what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: And then they got to a fight in a physical
Speaker 1: no like a like a bowl like they were discussing guy.
Speaker 1: I was like, what are you guys talking about? And
Speaker 1: then they were like, your sexuality, yeah exactly you actually yeah,
Speaker 1: but that was a great show. I told them to
Speaker 1: funk off, and everyone clapp Oh, so you know, having
Speaker 1: the mic. Yeah, it's so great. I haven't like I
Speaker 1: guess like I thought, and this is probably just like
Speaker 1: a stereotype or misconception that like people were more tolerant
Speaker 1: of lesbians than gay men. Like it was like less
Speaker 1: doesn't affect them at all, Like it doesn't challenge a
Speaker 1: man's uh sexuality, straight man's sexuality the way a gay
Speaker 1: man for whatever. I think it's complicated. I think men
Speaker 1: are afraid, so afraid of being gay that gay men
Speaker 1: makes them interesting, but then they sexualize gay women. I
Speaker 1: don't think gay women make straight women feel afraid of
Speaker 1: being gay, but I think gay women are seen as
Speaker 1: gross because you have any woman who talks about a
Speaker 1: vagina on stage is gross. A gay woman who's talking
Speaker 1: about two vaginas on stage is gross even more gross.
Speaker 1: Head into the math like that, Okay, So as soon
Speaker 1: as you put it into a word problem, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this it doesn't make a lot of time. So I
Speaker 1: think we get the sexism. I think gay women get
Speaker 1: the sexism and the fetishes. I mean, well, yeah, because
Speaker 1: that same guy who was probably like you, listen to
Speaker 1: the ship definitely jerks off to its out chicks fucking
Speaker 1: making out in a pool. Yeah, so what Like, I
Speaker 1: just want to slap him in the face. I hate
Speaker 1: that ship. Hey guys, hope you liked that clip of
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