Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production
Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio Happy Friday. I'm Tracy Vie Wilson,
Speaker 1: and I'm Holly Fry. One of our podcasts this week
Speaker 1: was on the Delano grape strike and I just remembered
Speaker 1: something I meant to say in the episode. Well, then
Speaker 1: it's good we have this. Yeah. So, there used to
Speaker 1: be a podcast called This Day in History Class that
Speaker 1: I used to be on, UH, and one of our episodes,
Speaker 1: UM was for the day that the Delano grape strikes started,
Speaker 1: and UM one of our colleagues, Christopher Hasiotas, had done
Speaker 1: some background research on that for me, and of course
Speaker 1: that UH became like step one and the much larger
Speaker 1: researching of this episode, because This Day in History Class
Speaker 1: was five minutes long and Stuff You Missed in History
Speaker 1: Class is much longer than that. But I had meant
Speaker 1: to I had meant to acknowledge his contribution UM in
Speaker 1: in the actual episode, and I just I it slipped
Speaker 1: my mind because I didn't write it down. I'm glad
Speaker 1: I'm not the only person who has to write it
Speaker 1: all down or it all goes away. I have to
Speaker 1: write absolutely all of it down, UM and then sometimes
Speaker 1: later I will find these cryptic notes where I'm like,
Speaker 1: what was that even about? I? Um even on like
Speaker 1: I keep what's kind of like, ummmmm, it's people always
Speaker 1: go always at a bullet journal, and it has some
Speaker 1: of the same concepts, but it's not really that Like
Speaker 1: it's literally just like a notebook where stuff is shifting
Speaker 1: day to day, like to the next day if I
Speaker 1: don't get it done or whatever. But there will be
Speaker 1: times where I look at one of my two dues
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, I don't know what this means anymore.
Speaker 1: Like I have scrolled down something that says like tell
Speaker 1: marketing cadavers, and I don't remember what that is. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's very cryptic. I actually I think I know what
Speaker 1: it is now. But there was a moment yesterday where
Speaker 1: I looked at that on my list and went, what
Speaker 1: is that? Um? I was having a little computer issue
Speaker 1: this morning, and as I was like waiting for it
Speaker 1: to clear itself up, I was just sort of gazing
Speaker 1: at what's saved on my desktop and I realized there's
Speaker 1: a file saved on there that says to do while
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, And who knows how old that document is
Speaker 1: at this point, um, because like, when is the last
Speaker 1: time I was in Atlanta? Probably a year ago at
Speaker 1: this point, almost because of a pandemic. It was because
Speaker 1: it was August. Oh yeah, because I don't know if
Speaker 1: you remember. You said something about how everything had changed,
Speaker 1: and I said, well, you haven't been here for a year,
Speaker 1: and you said that's not true. And I looked at it,
Speaker 1: but I was like, the last time you were here
Speaker 1: was August of eighteen, and you were like, oh my goodness, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: i've been because that would be two years. No, but
Speaker 1: then this was last year we had thee I understand now,
Speaker 1: so speaking of the pandemic that has kept me from
Speaker 1: visiting our Atlanta office ever. Um. I had had this
Speaker 1: episode marked on my calendar to do approximately now four months.
Speaker 1: Like I was like, you know, when the when the
Speaker 1: anniversary of that comes up, that would be a great
Speaker 1: time to do it. It's been marked on the calendar
Speaker 1: for all of that time. And then as it approached,
Speaker 1: I was like, and everything here feels particularly relevant because
Speaker 1: the pandemic has highlighted so much how many of these
Speaker 1: issues are still issues because they're like have been so
Speaker 1: many headlines about the harvest needs to come in at
Speaker 1: this farm and the entire workforce has covid um and
Speaker 1: like just the people who are who are doing agricultural
Speaker 1: labor like still not having the basic sanitation and protective
Speaker 1: equipment needed as protection from this IRIS. And I was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: that did not intend for there to be double relevance
Speaker 1: with this episode when I earmarked it to go in
Speaker 1: this part of the calendar so long ago. It's funny
Speaker 1: how that often works out. Yeah. Also, uh, we have
Speaker 1: talked about all of the waves of of immigration that
Speaker 1: we cover at the beginning of the episode, but just
Speaker 1: spelling it out altogether really highlighted for me what a
Speaker 1: pattern it was of like, we need cheap labor, let's
Speaker 1: bring in immigrant workers. We hate these immigrant workers though,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna really discriminate against them and then ban them.
Speaker 1: But now we still need cheap labor, so we got
Speaker 1: to get some different immigrants. It's the and then start
Speaker 1: the same cycle again of uh like discrimination leading ultimately
Speaker 1: to exclusion. Yeah, it's very much like who is hoping
Speaker 1: to better their lives that we can exploit next. Yeah yeah, uh,
Speaker 1: And I mean that's a pattern that we've talked about before,
Speaker 1: but putting it all in one spot. I was like, ah,
Speaker 1: this is not great. Yeah, well, because you watched the
Speaker 1: cycle happen like in one industry over and over and over,
Speaker 1: and you can't ever like at that point, by the
Speaker 1: time you're on the third wave of that, there's no
Speaker 1: getting around the fact that the people in charge making
Speaker 1: all the money, we're consciously doing it. Yeah. We also
Speaker 1: mentioned but didn't go into detail about, um the just
Speaker 1: coordinated effort by the state of California two eradicate its
Speaker 1: indigenous population UM and like that was a multifaceted, intentional
Speaker 1: effort UM and it is something that I feel like
Speaker 1: does not get talked about as much, at least where
Speaker 1: where we live as thing was like the Indian Removal
Speaker 1: Act UM. Like I grew up in North Carolina, so
Speaker 1: we had a whole classroom unit about the trail of tears.
Speaker 1: But I think for people who who don't live in
Speaker 1: the Southwest, UM and are not indigenous, probably that aspect
Speaker 1: of California history is like not quite as familiar accurate.
Speaker 1: So maybe after some time has passed, because again we
Speaker 1: don't want to make the entire calendar of our show
Speaker 1: be uh incredibly difficult topics, UM, maybe we'll get into
Speaker 1: something relevant to that. One of the things we talked
Speaker 1: about this week was Joshua Slocum and his solo voyage
Speaker 1: around the world, which we have had some listener requests
Speaker 1: for over the years. I was going through the listener
Speaker 1: request list yesterday trying to figure out what I was
Speaker 1: going to do next, and I was like, oh, look,
Speaker 1: here's some people who said Joshua Slocum, which we're just
Speaker 1: we're going to record that tomorrow. There were two things
Speaker 1: that came up when I was working on this. One was,
Speaker 1: as has been the case so many times lately, I
Speaker 1: came into this saying, Okay, I have some criteria for
Speaker 1: what I want to do for the next episode. Number One,
Speaker 1: I need to do something fun. Number two not in
Speaker 1: the nineteenth century. Number three not a man, because we've
Speaker 1: just had a lot of dudes on the podcast lately, um.
Speaker 1: And so I was just, you know, I wanted to
Speaker 1: get a little away from that. And so then I
Speaker 1: started going through my phone where I had kept up
Speaker 1: um with ideas I had stumbled across while out in
Speaker 1: the world back before we UH started instead staying home
Speaker 1: because of the pandemic, and I just I had the
Speaker 1: name of his book. I had Sailing Alone around the
Speaker 1: World just written in a note on my phone, and
Speaker 1: I googled that and then I was like, well, one
Speaker 1: out of three, we get one out of three of
Speaker 1: my criteria for this episode. Um. The other thing is like,
Speaker 1: we've we've been pretty candid about the fact that the
Speaker 1: pandemic has made us really mistravel and that was the
Speaker 1: case for this episode for me too. But the thing
Speaker 1: about this episode that made me miss traveling was not
Speaker 1: the far off places or the long voyages. It was
Speaker 1: all the places around coastal Massachusetts that I could go,
Speaker 1: but I couldn't really do anything if I went there,
Speaker 1: because he talks about like all these places on Cape
Speaker 1: and like Gloucester and Rockport where I really love going,
Speaker 1: and like other places that are on the coast, and
Speaker 1: I was just like, man, those are all places that
Speaker 1: I love to go and walk around and eat in
Speaker 1: restaurants and poke around in little shops, and all those
Speaker 1: things are kind of off the table right now. We
Speaker 1: did coincidentally make a road trip to New Bedford while
Speaker 1: I was working on this to take leftover kitten food
Speaker 1: to someone that foster's kittens, but it was literally like
Speaker 1: We got out of the car and everyone masked handed
Speaker 1: over this kid food. We looked at the ocean for
Speaker 1: a minute, and we came home again. Yeah my uh
Speaker 1: my travel bug is starting to go a little bananas
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, Like I it's so silly, but everybody knows,
Speaker 1: like I love some Disney time, and it's not news
Speaker 1: this particular thing, but it really hit me suddenly, really
Speaker 1: hard that Disney World Magic Kingdom is not doing Mickey's
Speaker 1: Not So Scary Halloween Party this year, which is something
Speaker 1: we do every year. We usually try to go to
Speaker 1: two of the parties, Um and Halloween being my very favorite.
Speaker 1: I don't know why, just as we're looking into the
Speaker 1: fall and we're starting to you know, get yummy fun
Speaker 1: HALLOWEENI and autumnal things marketed to us, I just had
Speaker 1: that moment of oh, like a total party for myself.
Speaker 1: I recognized this is like the most privileged sadness a
Speaker 1: human could experience. But I was just like, I just
Speaker 1: want to get in the car and drive. Yeah. Um
Speaker 1: that we we looked forward to this like trip to
Speaker 1: New Bedford to drop off cat food like it was
Speaker 1: a gigantic treat. And then I simultaneously was like, man,
Speaker 1: I would kind of love to just wander around and
Speaker 1: and eat some seafood in a restaurant. Um, which I
Speaker 1: know there are restaurants that are open now, but like,
Speaker 1: the choice that we're making in our household is to
Speaker 1: minimize our contact with other people. Still same um. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Joshua Slucum is so interesting and so complicated at the
Speaker 1: same time, of course, and I would not have been like,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be fun had I known before the
Speaker 1: tail end of the research process about the exposing himself
Speaker 1: to a twelve year old right that like that, had
Speaker 1: I probably would have been like, oh, we're just not
Speaker 1: We're gonna pick something that's not going to involve that
Speaker 1: conversation today. Uh, But it was too late, too late
Speaker 1: by the time I discovered that part of the story. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, look, it comes up all the time. There's
Speaker 1: no human is uncomplicated. No, it's every human has probably
Speaker 1: been disappointing at some point in their trajectory, and it's
Speaker 1: good to remember that it is for a variety of reasons. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I also wish we knew more about Jenny ah Me too,
Speaker 1: because Jenny seems great, she seems amazing. Yeah, I love it,
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