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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas. Come to you from a
Speaker 1: virtual room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler's, Chris Westling, Greg Rosatal.
Speaker 1: Week one. What's up boys, Hey Dan? Yeah? Yeah, football, Yeah, flagship.
Speaker 1: This is to be Greg's favorite day of the year,
Speaker 1: right well, yeah. I always said the best Sunday of
Speaker 1: football of the year because you've got the most Sundays
Speaker 1: in front of you, and this year it does feel
Speaker 1: like a celebration to get here. Although I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's gonna be the best Sunday of the year,
Speaker 1: I feel like the quality will probably get better as
Speaker 1: they get a little nothing but a celebration, I would
Speaker 1: agree with that. Yeah, you know, as the asses fall
Speaker 1: from the sky outside of my window, celebrations. Old fires
Speaker 1: still raging here in southern California and California throughout the state.
Speaker 1: And this is for me the first time that I
Speaker 1: wasn't at the NFL office in eleven years, where of
Speaker 1: course all working from home because of you know, and
Speaker 1: so we had to find new ways to watch the games.
Speaker 1: And I hope everybody managed to do that and and
Speaker 1: cover the games that were drafted on Thursday's show, and
Speaker 1: West was not part of the draft on Thursday, but
Speaker 1: is luckily and thankfully joining us here tonight. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna go through every game that was played on Sunday,
Speaker 1: wrapping up with the Sunday night football game between the
Speaker 1: Cowboys and the Rams. And um, Greg, do you have
Speaker 1: any kind of broad takeaway from Week one? Not really,
Speaker 1: I that that, I um that I do want to
Speaker 1: give these teams a little bit of a wide berth.
Speaker 1: I'm going to overreact anyways and have fun with what
Speaker 1: happened today. But I think more than ever, the first
Speaker 1: two to three weeks of the season feels like, you know,
Speaker 1: let's let's warm up, let's get ready, and if you
Speaker 1: have teams and root for, let's hope you you know,
Speaker 1: pocket some dubs because they'll still count the same at
Speaker 1: the end of the season, even if it's in these first, easy,
Speaker 1: early weeks. All right, So here we go, It's time
Speaker 1: to do it. Are you mark you ready? I'm ready?
Speaker 1: You know what. Honestly, I love this today for you
Speaker 1: and I and our our favorite sports clubs. But I
Speaker 1: brushed that off pretty quick. I think I went in
Speaker 1: with the expectations. Will get into that, but I thought
Speaker 1: the working from home thing was um, pretty pretty seamless,
Speaker 1: and so I'm lobbying to essentially never leave my home
Speaker 1: ever again. West, did you think in like midway through
Speaker 1: second quarter today, like, well, it's different, not feeling the
Speaker 1: negative energy around us with the Jet the Jets, and uh,
Speaker 1: the Browns getting drubbed so by so much. It's such
Speaker 1: a tough but but I get like it. You never
Speaker 1: know what week one is gonna bring, and it can
Speaker 1: offer a surprise in so many different directions. But to
Speaker 1: have it be the same old like kicking the pants
Speaker 1: like Charlie Brown, It's just I just feel for you guys,
Speaker 1: because I know the feeling in baseball. Mhmm. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: I feel like I've gotten some type of like radiation
Speaker 1: poisoning being next to Mark all these years. So I
Speaker 1: do feel refreshed Sunday night. I don't know why. Uh,
Speaker 1: maybe there's there's a reason why. All right, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Let's get into every game that was played on Sunday,
Speaker 1: and let us start with the most famous quarterback, perhaps
Speaker 1: in the history of football. Starting a new it didn't
Speaker 1: go too well. This God went in motion again to
Speaker 1: the right. Brady takes a gun snap book throw near side.
Speaker 1: It's picked up to Norris Jenkins. Fifteen ten, three to
Speaker 1: one touchdown to Norris Jenkins, pick six. I looked easy,
Speaker 1: du it look the easy follows behind oh alistre rubbing
Speaker 1: some salt in the wound Zack Street also called w
Speaker 1: W L Generes Jack Rabbit. Jenkins picked up Tom Brady
Speaker 1: and took a thirty six yards to the house as
Speaker 1: the Saints host over the Bucks and an empty Superdome,
Speaker 1: neither offense. He was working at a high level on
Speaker 1: this one, Greg, But New Orleans seems to be a
Speaker 1: step ahead at the start of the season. Yeah. It
Speaker 1: reminded me of a lot of Saints wins from last
Speaker 1: year where the score was a little misleading. Uh. It
Speaker 1: was a high scoring game, but they won with defense,
Speaker 1: with special teams. With the other team, the Bucks in
Speaker 1: this case, you know, kind of shooting themselves in the
Speaker 1: foot and making a lot of mistakes. It was not
Speaker 1: a great showcase, you know for quarterbacks after forty they
Speaker 1: both looked they both looked older than forty. It wasn't
Speaker 1: great games. I wouldn't say for either one of them.
Speaker 1: Brady made your mistakes. Brady also made a number of
Speaker 1: better throws I would say than Drew Brees did in
Speaker 1: this game. But it spells out to me, and it's
Speaker 1: it's early. I'm not gonna judge too much, but I
Speaker 1: just think the Saints have so much more margin for
Speaker 1: error than the Bucks do in this division because they
Speaker 1: can win games like this, because they can win six
Speaker 1: games with Teddy Bridgewater, um, and I think this secondary,
Speaker 1: especially with generous Jenkins and West's boy C J. Gardner
Speaker 1: Johnson who had a monster game to those two guys
Speaker 1: make them so deep that they can do a lot
Speaker 1: of fun things up front. And they confused Brady a
Speaker 1: couple of times. They they made plays on their own.
Speaker 1: And if their special teams is gonna be good like
Speaker 1: it was today, it's just like it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: hard time beating this team. And a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: this offense changed from going as Drew Brees goes to
Speaker 1: going to as Alvin Camara goes and Michael Thomas, and
Speaker 1: you saw Camaro today had the explosiveness. Maybe his yardage
Speaker 1: numbers weren't there, but he looked like the old Alvin
Speaker 1: Camara on those two touchdowns, making people miss and looking explosive.
Speaker 1: I mean, the the Brady interceptions really to me illustrated
Speaker 1: a Bucks team that needs more time to get fluid
Speaker 1: on offense. There was a clear miscommunication with with Mike Evans,
Speaker 1: I believe on one of them, and you know, I
Speaker 1: it's gonna just take patients with all these teams, and
Speaker 1: last you mentioned at the top of the show, it's like,
Speaker 1: we can freak out about the Bucks not looking anything
Speaker 1: like they were hyped up to look, but let's talk
Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks. It just seemed like for
Speaker 1: all the preparation, Brady was still sinking up with the
Speaker 1: rest of the team's Grant. Grant didn't do much in
Speaker 1: this game, and after the game, Bruce arians and the
Speaker 1: head coach, he actually was open about it and said
Speaker 1: on the interception that Brady threw that was intended for
Speaker 1: Mike Evans, that Mike Evans did the right thing, the
Speaker 1: thing he's taught to do, which was kind of sit
Speaker 1: down in the coverage, but Brady didn't do the right thing.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if that's arians side with the
Speaker 1: guy that's been in the house longer or what. But
Speaker 1: it just shows you, like Mark said, this is gonna
Speaker 1: take some time. It's the opposite. He would always justify
Speaker 1: every Jamis Winston intercepted that. I mean, Brady's gotta be thinking,
Speaker 1: what now you're starting to throw the quarterbacks under the bus.
Speaker 1: I mean it just they were kind of the opposite
Speaker 1: of what the Patriots were last year, which wasn't necessarily
Speaker 1: good either, um, but they were just sloppy. They had
Speaker 1: so many penalties and that is something arians has gotta
Speaker 1: work on. They led the league in penalties a year ago.
Speaker 1: And and I guess if you're a Bucks fan and
Speaker 1: you do want to be a little concerned about this game,
Speaker 1: one spot is Donovan Smith, which is their left tackle,
Speaker 1: who struggled Trey Hendrickson beat him clean a few times.
Speaker 1: That was a big problem. In general, the Saints pass
Speaker 1: rush look pretty good, and Donovan Smith is a guy
Speaker 1: who they drafted who Jason Light gave a huge contract
Speaker 1: that made no sense at the time. He gave him
Speaker 1: at no point as Donovan Smith really played particularly well
Speaker 1: at left tackle. And that is Tom Brady's left tackle,
Speaker 1: and that to me is a little emblematic of the
Speaker 1: Buccaneers who have had bad draft picks and have kept
Speaker 1: some of their bad Did you get any clarity about there?
Speaker 1: I know that you know, Ronald Jones had by far
Speaker 1: the most curious think it was like seventeen, but you
Speaker 1: take away the twenty one yard runn he had and
Speaker 1: he ran for like two yards per rush, and the
Speaker 1: whole team in general, I mean both teams the ground
Speaker 1: games seem a little flat, but the Bucks I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, on a on a Tom Brady of team,
Speaker 1: a running game that's not operable is would be a
Speaker 1: concern for me. I was surprised that both teams ran
Speaker 1: the ball so much because the Bucks were historically great
Speaker 1: stopping the run, so it wasn't a surprise to me.
Speaker 1: The Saints couldn't run on them, but they kept trying.
Speaker 1: And the Bucks were one of the most pass heavy
Speaker 1: teams in the first half of games, not even after
Speaker 1: Jamis blew it. But they were pass happy early in
Speaker 1: games last year, and they really weren't and it wasn't working.
Speaker 1: And the Saints are a really good rush defense. And
Speaker 1: I come back to maybe the coaches west like who
Speaker 1: are usually so aggressive and so confident. The Saints, especially
Speaker 1: it strikes me when you're bringing in Taysom Hill on
Speaker 1: some really key third downs and breezes. Numbers were ugly
Speaker 1: until late in the scheme and he hit a big
Speaker 1: forty six yard or that that ended up being the
Speaker 1: key play the games. Of credit to him for that, um,
Speaker 1: but they were like running and bringing in Hill for
Speaker 1: Keith thurd downs and everything is so condensed and the
Speaker 1: Buck's defense is cooking it. And I know that's something
Speaker 1: you think is gonna be a problem for the Saints
Speaker 1: long term, and and I think it's a fair I
Speaker 1: think it's a fair concern. It's who locked that one up?
Speaker 1: That was That was Mark and I. And by the way,
Speaker 1: you people on Twitter honking about like that, weren't that
Speaker 1: bold for locking this one up? And it was like
Speaker 1: a field goal game. The Buts are a town. Think
Speaker 1: I got with you. I like, I want to engage
Speaker 1: with with people's takes. But that was a horrible take
Speaker 1: and I just like you go to the desert. It
Speaker 1: was completely right in the mirror world. So I completely
Speaker 1: ignored those comments. Sorry West, Sorry West, I had set
Speaker 1: you up before all that. Yeah, I think that transition
Speaker 1: has been going on for a while. Now, I don't
Speaker 1: think this is new to this year. I think you're
Speaker 1: seeing Drew Brees is passing numbers efficiency the last few years,
Speaker 1: propped up by the way Sean Payton uses him, and
Speaker 1: it's to hide his arm. And I think you're seeing
Speaker 1: more and more of that where you're gonna need Taysom
Speaker 1: hill On more plays um to breeze his credit. He
Speaker 1: did have that forty yard pass that um there was
Speaker 1: a big play in this game, but I think the
Speaker 1: rest of the game you saw that his arm was
Speaker 1: an issue. The quietest game in years for Michael Thomas,
Speaker 1: who of course risked everything to break the Marvin Harrison
Speaker 1: receptions record a year ago. He saw just five targets today,
Speaker 1: his low since Week eleven of two thousand and eighteen,
Speaker 1: and he also sustained uh some type of ankle injury
Speaker 1: late in the game. Uh. Mike Florio reported that Thomas
Speaker 1: was walking fine in the locker room after the win,
Speaker 1: but he hadn't let the trainers look at it. They
Speaker 1: were still trying to examine him, which is kind of
Speaker 1: a funny image image of a little trainers, like five
Speaker 1: ft Devon trainers chasing around Michael Thomas. Please let us
Speaker 1: examine your ankle. Uh. So I'm I'm assuming that will
Speaker 1: happen at some point, but something to keep an eye
Speaker 1: on there, all right. So Tom Brady's new adventure starts
Speaker 1: with a loss. Let's keep roll and through and talk
Speaker 1: about another legendary quarterback checking a tench Snampa Rock going
Speaker 1: deep down the right sidelines. NBS passed, stop what a play?
Speaker 1: He took it away from Cameron dancler Learn trash scandling
Speaker 1: forty five yard touch yard reception, Wayne Lara vy w
Speaker 1: t MJ with the call my own. Aaron Rodgers went
Speaker 1: off against a young and not ready for prime time
Speaker 1: or daytime Vikings defense, throwing four touchdown passes and Davante
Speaker 1: Adams tied a franchise record with four team catches and
Speaker 1: the Packers forty three to thirty four win over the
Speaker 1: Vikings at US Banks Stadium. The Vikings defense, it was
Speaker 1: a mess. They gave a five hundred and twenty two
Speaker 1: yards their worst outing since giving up five hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty six yards of the Rams in their high flying stage,
Speaker 1: and they were just the secondary was picked on by
Speaker 1: Rogers and West. I can't wait uh to see where
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers falls on the Chris Westling QB and Index
Speaker 1: this week because you had him higher than most people
Speaker 1: would have in that exercise going into week one, and
Speaker 1: what he did today an absolute clinic and uh yes,
Speaker 1: I have a sandwich prop about him being an All
Speaker 1: Pro this year, and who knows, it's just one game,
Speaker 1: but my god, did he look like Aaron Rodgers. And
Speaker 1: you'll watch that game. He could have had even more
Speaker 1: yardage that could have been gaudier, uh if not for
Speaker 1: a drop by MVS that negated about a sixty yard
Speaker 1: game and Alan Lazard uh fell stumbled towards the end
Speaker 1: zone when he should have been walk in score. So
Speaker 1: this could have even been more grizzly for the Vikings
Speaker 1: defense and more glorious for Rogers. But that's not really
Speaker 1: the point. The point is not only uh did Rogers
Speaker 1: look great? Is incompletions are almost always just throwaways smart plays.
Speaker 1: It was almost functionally a perfect game. And if you're
Speaker 1: a Packers fan, my goodness, are you excited right now?
Speaker 1: I think even as we've watched this more slump prone
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers over the last few years, where the whole
Speaker 1: football community tries to figure out what's wrong with him,
Speaker 1: and now going into this year, everybody had soured on
Speaker 1: him quite a bit. The Packers soured on him, um,
Speaker 1: But at no point do I remember anybody ever saying physically,
Speaker 1: he looks like he's in decline, Like nobody ever said
Speaker 1: he can't get this past done anymore, he can't escape
Speaker 1: trouble in the pocket anymore. I don't think it's ever
Speaker 1: been a physical thing. I think it's been falling into
Speaker 1: bad habits, and a lot of that comes from not
Speaker 1: trusting his receivers. If he can trust MVS this year,
Speaker 1: I think that's pretty big. I am always ready to
Speaker 1: just like with one game, go right back into the
Speaker 1: tank for Rogers and just believe it's how possible. Well,
Speaker 1: because it makes sense, like those the good games. He
Speaker 1: hazards as good as anyone, and he had a couple
Speaker 1: last year, but you're right, there are a lot of slums.
Speaker 1: But it's also because I've seen Tom Brady have what
Speaker 1: I thought was his best two year run of his
Speaker 1: entire career at thirty nine and forty. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if Rogers can stay as fit, but I know
Speaker 1: he's he's got it upstairs, like like Brady, And so
Speaker 1: it does make you think that Brady, who I thought
Speaker 1: I had a couple more down years, maybe in his
Speaker 1: mid thirties, UM cranked it back up in his late thirties.
Speaker 1: Like that, it's at least possible with the right play
Speaker 1: collar and and this is an amazing start to drop
Speaker 1: over five hundred yards in Week one, UM against the
Speaker 1: defense that should have some idea what you're doing is
Speaker 1: is pretty amazing. I was gonna say, these two teams
Speaker 1: know each other so well, and there's a lot of
Speaker 1: similar characters there from the past, and you know, we
Speaker 1: we talked all, you know, offseason long about a Vikings
Speaker 1: secondary with a completely new cast of cornerbacks, and yeah,
Speaker 1: last year's weren't great, So it's not like you've lost
Speaker 1: the legion of boom of the Midwest. It everyone's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, Mike Simon will coach them up, they'll be fine.
Speaker 1: But this has to be extremely concerning. And I'd also ask, like,
Speaker 1: on the on the offense offensive side from Minnesota, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm seeing like the numbers here and I just outside
Speaker 1: of Adam feeling not a lot of juice. Was it
Speaker 1: just that they got down early and they the whole
Speaker 1: thing fell apart. Uh, it was absurd. The defense couldn't
Speaker 1: get off the field. So by the time the first
Speaker 1: half ended, Kirk Cousins had thrown five passes and uh.
Speaker 1: In fact, the defense was on the field for almost
Speaker 1: twenty three minutes in the first half. And then the
Speaker 1: only reason this game is even remotely close in the
Speaker 1: final score is because a bunch of like prodigious guardage
Speaker 1: garbage time production from Cousins to Adam Feeling. I mean,
Speaker 1: this was an embarrassing loss for the Vikings. They're lucky
Speaker 1: nobody was in that building because as as humble and
Speaker 1: as sweet as Midwesterners are, they would have been getting
Speaker 1: booed because they did not show up uh on any level.
Speaker 1: In fact, the Neil Hunter being out was something that
Speaker 1: we all said, oh, that could be an issue. It
Speaker 1: was way worse than anyone could imagine Minnesota's According to
Speaker 1: the ESPN, Minnesota pressured Rogers on just seven of forty
Speaker 1: four dropbacks, including eighteen straight without registering a pressure. And
Speaker 1: then remember us all doing back flips about how brilliant
Speaker 1: Rick Spielman was for getting Yannick and Gockway. Hey, he
Speaker 1: could still be an All Pro this year for all
Speaker 1: we know, but he didn't have a single pressure in
Speaker 1: this game, so he's obviously and he's a little banged
Speaker 1: up too, So like they were not getting a push
Speaker 1: up front, nobody could cover in the back end. And
Speaker 1: they're frankly lucky this game wasn't fifty to ten. I
Speaker 1: mean when they were. You know, they spent all offseason
Speaker 1: trying to erase the memory of the absolute beating they
Speaker 1: took in San Francisco to close last year, a game
Speaker 1: that I thought peg Minnesota as a team that just
Speaker 1: is sort of halfway there in that group of playoff
Speaker 1: teams you can't really believe in. This is an ugly
Speaker 1: opening chapter. Well right there in this division with the Packers.
Speaker 1: You get blown out last year in the biggest game
Speaker 1: of the year, than you you have to get past
Speaker 1: this team. Now they're gonna have to do it in Lambeau.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that doesn't matter anymore with no fans. We'll
Speaker 1: we'll find out what it does. But time of possession,
Speaker 1: the fact that they set a record for the lowest
Speaker 1: time of possession I think in their franchise history today,
Speaker 1: it's not a good way to start the season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we we all And that's the four of us and
Speaker 1: everyone else that's listening to the show, and Ricky, we
Speaker 1: have to keep perspective on week one. But it could
Speaker 1: not be any worse for the Vikings through one game.
Speaker 1: Let's move on. They hand off here to Peyton Barbara
Speaker 1: with time, Yes, touchdown, touchdown Washington Bram Weinstein and that
Speaker 1: was not D'Angelo Hall with the call. That was Julius Donalds.
Speaker 1: Julia Donaldson. I know that that point. She's part of
Speaker 1: their crea. How about that? Look at you, frozenhal He
Speaker 1: got it the Washington football team. Peyton Barbera ran for
Speaker 1: two touchdowns and Dwayne Haskins rallied Washington from a seventeen
Speaker 1: point deficit to beat the Eagles seventeen and Ron Rivera's
Speaker 1: debut as head coach West. This was supposed to be
Speaker 1: a manageable assignment for the Eagles. What the hell happened?
Speaker 1: This was wild. If you would have told me at
Speaker 1: the two minute warning of the first half that the
Speaker 1: Red that the Washington football team would win this game,
Speaker 1: I would have said, you're not worth my time. You're
Speaker 1: you're talking crazy, you're paranoid, your delusional um. Just get away.
Speaker 1: There's no way that happens, um, And then stop me
Speaker 1: if you've heard this before. In Ohio state, pass rusher
Speaker 1: with difference making talent joins a front seven loaded with
Speaker 1: former first round draft picks, and they turn around and
Speaker 1: make life miserable for quarterbacks with waves and waves of
Speaker 1: pass rushers. And that did happened, Carson when they be
Speaker 1: those line in the Eagles line look like a line
Speaker 1: that's missing, guys, it did. There are two big problems here.
Speaker 1: I believe the right side of the Eagles line had
Speaker 1: never started a game before. The entire right side, Uh,
Speaker 1: they were a big issue. And Carson Wentstey's learned to
Speaker 1: get get rid of the ball, throw the ball away
Speaker 1: if he has to, uh, you know, pull the trigger
Speaker 1: once in a while. But he held the ball too
Speaker 1: too long. Um. So it was a mixture of both
Speaker 1: those things. And then the Redskins defensive line, like I said,
Speaker 1: sending waves of pass rushers at them, and I've seen
Speaker 1: that like Earth's and God are accounted for half of
Speaker 1: their two hundred and seventy passing yards, which reminds me
Speaker 1: a lot of last year. So, I mean, I know
Speaker 1: they're banged up, but they do they look like anything
Speaker 1: new compared to where we were with the Eagles offenses
Speaker 1: a season ago. Well, I think Goddard is even more involved.
Speaker 1: I wrote that, you know, a few minutes into the game,
Speaker 1: and this guy is already emphasized folks a focal point
Speaker 1: of the passing game in a way he wasn't last year.
Speaker 1: So I expect this to be and more tight end oriented. Uh.
Speaker 1: Jalen Riagor had one um long pass I think fifty
Speaker 1: five yard bomb and was targeted a couple more times deep.
Speaker 1: De Sean Jackson I think would have had a lot
Speaker 1: more production have Wentz Um had time to throw the
Speaker 1: ball in the second half, right, they had a total
Speaker 1: of five yards or so. These two teams to Washington's
Speaker 1: offense didn't exactly light it up. I mean they combined
Speaker 1: for less than that the Packers didn't one day. But
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the thing where I swooped in and
Speaker 1: watched like two minutes of this game, but make us
Speaker 1: sweeping judgment from it, which was the game was still
Speaker 1: very much those two double swoop to the game was
Speaker 1: very much uh in the Eagles hands, or at least
Speaker 1: they were in the game late when Wentz had Jackson
Speaker 1: on the timing play deep down the field and overthrew him,
Speaker 1: and Deshan Jackson was not pleased about that. And then
Speaker 1: on fourth and three they decided to go for it
Speaker 1: and uh, Earth's just drops the pass. So that's Carson Wentz,
Speaker 1: Sean Jackson and Art's not making plays at the end.
Speaker 1: And those are kind of your core guys. Well, at
Speaker 1: the point you picked that up, they had probably gone
Speaker 1: two and a half quarters without a single positive thing
Speaker 1: happening on offense, and I think they had stopped believing
Speaker 1: that a single positive thing could happen on offense. He
Speaker 1: was sacked eight times, Carson Wentz, and uh so that
Speaker 1: was not that's not sustainable. I know he was able
Speaker 1: to stay on the field for the entire regular season
Speaker 1: last year before that concussion against the Seahawks, but you
Speaker 1: are not going to keep him on the field if
Speaker 1: he can't protect him. What did you see from Haskins
Speaker 1: was he did just enough and I mean literally just enough. Um.
Speaker 1: I believe his first two touchdowns came directly after it
Speaker 1: Wentz his first two interceptions. UM at the day his credit,
Speaker 1: he got the good field position and led them down
Speaker 1: two scores. But um, he looked a little sluggish to me,
Speaker 1: a little more slow moving than he did last year.
Speaker 1: But um, he got credit for giving a pretty pretty
Speaker 1: good halftime speech. When Ron Rivera physically couldn't do it,
Speaker 1: Haskins took over, and um, the Redskins dominated the second half.
Speaker 1: I thought of you when, like Ron Rivera has taught
Speaker 1: up this week about literally going through treatments for his
Speaker 1: illness right now, and like the idea that you've got
Speaker 1: to perform the duties of a head coach, you know,
Speaker 1: the week long preparation, but then being on the sideline
Speaker 1: during what must be one of the most pressure packed
Speaker 1: experiences you can have. Man, that's a that's a concerning
Speaker 1: element for that team. Just physically standing there all day.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's got to wear him out. Um, I
Speaker 1: get that. So like you guys know, halfway through today,
Speaker 1: I had to go lay down and and give my
Speaker 1: back arrest. It's just it just wears you down. So
Speaker 1: I'm impressed that he's even out there in the first place.
Speaker 1: Right now, he was getting an IVY shot to give
Speaker 1: him energy to uh stand up on the sideline for
Speaker 1: the second half. It's it's remarkable. I know it's been
Speaker 1: a it's been a rough, rough six months. For this
Speaker 1: organization to come out with Week one with the division win,
Speaker 1: that's gotta it's gotta feel pretty sweet. And conversely, if
Speaker 1: you're the Eagles, and yeah, you know Miles Sanders, but man,
Speaker 1: guys like Rosenthal the pupping this team up forever. The Eagles,
Speaker 1: they feel highly of themselves. And then you go up
Speaker 1: and you go out and you go up seventeen zip
Speaker 1: against Washington and then you lose that you cannot that
Speaker 1: can't happen. That's a really bad way to start your season.
Speaker 1: M hm. Talk to you, Greig, I mean, not my team.
Speaker 1: I mean they have to start feeling like their snake.
Speaker 1: But I think they were missing seven starters. I mean
Speaker 1: there were starters. We didn't even mention Lane Johnson. We
Speaker 1: didn't know what was gonna be out necessarily Derek Barnett,
Speaker 1: Um Javon Hargrave, and you mentioned Sanders, and we know
Speaker 1: about the offensive linemen. It's it's it's a rough way
Speaker 1: to start. And then you also just you know, play
Speaker 1: play terribly to blow a lead like that. You still
Speaker 1: can't blow a lead like that no matter how many
Speaker 1: guys are out. All right, let's talk about your actual
Speaker 1: favorite team, Greg, the right, Cam's gonna run it to
Speaker 1: the toad outside of the five, No to the pylon,
Speaker 1: got down down. Patriots Second is New England debut. That's
Speaker 1: a man right there. Boy. I figured they just threw
Speaker 1: Zolak in the Boston harbor once Tom Brady left. What
Speaker 1: use do you have at that point? But I guess
Speaker 1: he's still employed. Scott, Scott. They've done it before, Scott
Speaker 1: Zolak with a call for w b Z check under
Speaker 1: the mass Pike cam. Newton rush for fifteen, rush fifteen
Speaker 1: times with seventy five yards and two scores through for
Speaker 1: a dredft more, leading the Patriots to a one to
Speaker 1: eleven win over the Dolphins in the first game with
Speaker 1: the post Tom Brady era in New England. Greg I
Speaker 1: wondered on Thursday's preview show how much of this version
Speaker 1: of Newton would be running in a Josh McDaniels offense.
Speaker 1: I guess the answers a bunch. Yeah, that is the offense.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if that'll be the entire
Speaker 1: offense each week, but I think it's kind of gonna
Speaker 1: be the base part of it. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: they want to be the Ravens, and they looked like
Speaker 1: they wanted to be the raven Not that not that
Speaker 1: Newton's dynamic in the same way, making long runs and
Speaker 1: breaking tackles, but that his running threat and and the
Speaker 1: read option and the option players are gonna be kind
Speaker 1: of the the centerpiece of their offense. And and maybe
Speaker 1: that was partly because it was Week one, and Belichick
Speaker 1: talked after the game that he thought conditioning was a
Speaker 1: huge factor. And you could see the Dolphins defense getting
Speaker 1: more tired and more tired. You could see the Patriots
Speaker 1: defense getting a little tired at the end of this
Speaker 1: game too. But three drives after halftime, they were just dominant.
Speaker 1: I mean they had eighteen minutes in those three drives.
Speaker 1: They had at least six first downs in each of
Speaker 1: those drives. If nikkil Harry hadn't fumbled the ball out
Speaker 1: of the end zone at the goal line, they would
Speaker 1: have scored touchdowns on all three of those drives. And
Speaker 1: they basically did the Sessler plan. They just ran the
Speaker 1: clock out. I mean they were done with this thing
Speaker 1: by like three forty and then they were back in
Speaker 1: the locker room. I mean, this was a Mark Sessler
Speaker 1: dream game right here. I started getting all these tweets
Speaker 1: about you're gonna you're gonna love this game on game Pass,
Speaker 1: and then I found out why. I saw some cut
Speaker 1: ups two and I kind of trust the Patriots in
Speaker 1: Week one as much as anyone, just to be prepared,
Speaker 1: and like they were throwing out some freaky looks and
Speaker 1: like heavy sets with like dying guys up on the
Speaker 1: line and like you know, and that's how how some
Speaker 1: of this worked. And the Dolphins just looked a little faceless.
Speaker 1: And then you get this game where you know, everyone's
Speaker 1: saying year two in a row for Ryan Fitzpatrick. He
Speaker 1: goes out and throws three picks. I mean, you're you
Speaker 1: have no shot. Yeah. I kept I kept thinking about
Speaker 1: this Patriots running game and what they wanted to do
Speaker 1: to kind of hide tom Brady's decline the last year
Speaker 1: or so, and to hide the lack of skill position
Speaker 1: talent at wide receiver. They wanted to have this running game.
Speaker 1: And I almost want to give them credit for for
Speaker 1: having the guts to get rid of Tom Brady and
Speaker 1: bringing Cam Newton as if it was some grand plan. Um.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was the grand plan to bring
Speaker 1: in Cam Newton, but what better guy to do it
Speaker 1: if that's what you wanted to do, right, Well, that's
Speaker 1: the thing they're adapting, and they're playing to the strength
Speaker 1: of the guys that are there. They lucked out huge
Speaker 1: that no one signed Cam and I think, you know,
Speaker 1: teams without quarterbacks are gonna be regretting that because he
Speaker 1: looked like Cam new and you can build a team
Speaker 1: around him. We'll see if he stays healthy. But it's greaty.
Speaker 1: I mean, he threw the ball nineteen times and he
Speaker 1: ran the ball fifteen times. I mean, is that sustainable.
Speaker 1: We'll see. But I think they're playing another their strength
Speaker 1: and they know what they are, which is the running game.
Speaker 1: I think they had five runners, had five or more carries.
Speaker 1: They have this undrafted kid J. J. Taylor who looked
Speaker 1: really good, who was a factor. And then their secondary
Speaker 1: is really good. Fitzpatrick had no one opened the whole game.
Speaker 1: He did throw costly picks um, but they were just
Speaker 1: saying he cannot find anyone open, which isn't a surprise.
Speaker 1: Devantie Parker got hurt midway through. And this is a
Speaker 1: really good secondary and it doesn't surprise me that the
Speaker 1: Dolphins can't find guys open. Against him. No to I
Speaker 1: thought we'd see a little too as as little as
Speaker 1: the Dolphins offense was doing early in this game, But no,
Speaker 1: he did. He was never warming up nothing. The page
Speaker 1: just don't have to worry about Cam Newton's health long
Speaker 1: term because they have nothing invested in him, right they
Speaker 1: can they can allow him to take a beating. No,
Speaker 1: They're gonna try to win these games, and they're gonna
Speaker 1: see and they're gonna hope some young guys, you know,
Speaker 1: step up. Chase Winovitch had a good game that they're
Speaker 1: using this guy, Jawan Williams, who was the second round
Speaker 1: pick to cover sight ends this year. He covered Gisicky
Speaker 1: a lot better than than they did a year ago
Speaker 1: with with Chung. It felt very twenty though. I mean
Speaker 1: everything felt weird about this game, including after the game.
Speaker 1: It's like the Patriots tweet out Waconda Forever with with
Speaker 1: you know, Cam throwing up the X, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: the Patriots sending this out to me is just like,
Speaker 1: what is happening right now? Well, what I thought you
Speaker 1: were going to talk about the skirmish at the at
Speaker 1: midfield after the game, when Dolphins player appeared to attempt
Speaker 1: to rip off the chain of Cam Newton so spicy.
Speaker 1: After the game, Cam, No, he had to be you know,
Speaker 1: carried away by his teammates and then his coaches were
Speaker 1: stopping him apparently. Yes, that's someone tried to move the chain. Try.
Speaker 1: Someone tried to do a keep to leave like chain
Speaker 1: snatch on him. He was preening, as West would say,
Speaker 1: he was doing all the camp things. He had a
Speaker 1: huge he was loving it. He was loving it, and
Speaker 1: as Romeo pointed out, like a few times he did
Speaker 1: some advanced things where he changed the play and that worked.
Speaker 1: In a few times he didn't at all, And they
Speaker 1: had these terrible places, but man, he was celebrating, just
Speaker 1: like Cam always does. He had that big touchdown run
Speaker 1: where he took a big hit and I mean, like
Speaker 1: you could see the huge smile on his face as
Speaker 1: he's diving for the pylon. I mean, that's that's just
Speaker 1: that's just who he is. Good. I hope you can
Speaker 1: sustain that level of abuse every week, because that seems
Speaker 1: like a lot of workload for an old, many year
Speaker 1: old man. You know, he's actually in year old body,
Speaker 1: but you know he's thirty one biologically. I think it's
Speaker 1: fair to could you know question whether this is a
Speaker 1: sustainable championship model. But I'm just looking for fun. Give me,
Speaker 1: give me, by the way, that's in a Mixmas and Bridge.
Speaker 1: Cam's not the new Tom Brady. The new Tom Brady
Speaker 1: is gonna come down the line when they leverage a
Speaker 1: first round pick that's high and they go and they
Speaker 1: get the next hope. But for now, Cam is the guy,
Speaker 1: and uh, it's gonna be a little bit of like
Speaker 1: the quarterback version of DeMarco Murray his last year in Dallas.
Speaker 1: I would just say that sometimes it's sometimes it's beautiful
Speaker 1: to drive over a nice bridge get a new view.
Speaker 1: I mean, a bridge is not always a bad thing.
Speaker 1: This will be a bridge to nowhere, but it'll still
Speaker 1: it's still nice time. I mean, give me a tenor
Speaker 1: eleven wins division title with a lot of fun on
Speaker 1: the way. Forget about it. That's not nowhere. That's living.
Speaker 1: I think that's all employee. I agree, I agree. All right,
Speaker 1: let's keep moving at the thirty eight yard line. Let's
Speaker 1: see if he does in factorings forward Russell fourth down
Speaker 1: and five he is four man run. Looks he's gonna
Speaker 1: lay it up over the top. He's got a man down,
Speaker 1: there's red cap. He's got it touched down. Shayhawks on
Speaker 1: fourth down and five. Russ takes the snap, stands back
Speaker 1: there like a patient man in white. Fourteen gets open
Speaker 1: for six a thirty eight yard Holy smoke, you guys
Speaker 1: are covering dk Metcalf with one man. Forget about it.
Speaker 1: He beats them. You know, shout out to Steve Rival
Speaker 1: there from k I r oh, because I did have
Speaker 1: a moment just now where it's completely deflated by the
Speaker 1: state of the world and everything that's been taken from us,
Speaker 1: including people being at these games to celebrate and be
Speaker 1: humans together. But that call was so filled with joy
Speaker 1: and realness, and it came from such a sincere place.
Speaker 1: And I'm back. I want to let you know. And
Speaker 1: now I'm back brib Let. Russ Cook showing what he
Speaker 1: can do and given the chance to cut Russey Wilson
Speaker 1: through four touchdown passes, leading the Seahawks thin over the
Speaker 1: Falcons in Atlanta. Mark, you think Bryan Schottenheimer has finally
Speaker 1: seen the light, has a new kind of Seahawks attack arrived. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, we've got a small sample size to to
Speaker 1: draw a conclusion from. They ran the ball twenty times.
Speaker 1: I think that that that he has seen the light,
Speaker 1: and I think that there's probably uh internal pressure as
Speaker 1: well to you know, turn Russell Wilson on from the
Speaker 1: start after the kind of money they're paying him, and
Speaker 1: he totally responded. It was a completely pristine ever by
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, and you know the idea that he you know,
Speaker 1: it would be be a step down from the m
Speaker 1: v P performance we saw last year. Not right now.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that this is a very effective offense.
Speaker 1: If I told you that the Falcons that Matt Ryan
Speaker 1: would throw for four hundred and fifty yards, multiple touchdowns
Speaker 1: with nine completions to three different receivers, I would think
Speaker 1: the Falcons would be in control of this game at
Speaker 1: some point. It just simply wasn't the case. They weren't.
Speaker 1: They weren't terrible by any stretch of the imagineagination. But
Speaker 1: Seattle to me um moved away from the feed Chris
Speaker 1: Carson and fill in the blank other running back thirty
Speaker 1: seven times and have Russell Wilson do special things for
Speaker 1: the last six and a half minutes of the game
Speaker 1: where you're forced to suddenly get frisky down the field
Speaker 1: I mean, they attacked from the start, and I think
Speaker 1: if you're a Seahawks fan that's waited for this um,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get more of it. M I think the
Speaker 1: Falcons are just gonna get incrementally worse on defense for
Speaker 1: every year. I'm alive, Ruther off to a good start,
Speaker 1: dead quit will just stay there. Yeah, And and dan
Speaker 1: Quinn will have postgame press conferences where he's where he
Speaker 1: said today, He's like, we're pissed, We're pissed, and it's
Speaker 1: almost like he's trying to like convince everyone they're pissed.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure, I'm sure he's pissed. He's a defensive
Speaker 1: coach who's you know, his team's not playing well. But
Speaker 1: it's almost like he knows that everyone thinks it's a
Speaker 1: groundhog day. He's been feeling the groundhog day to these
Speaker 1: slow starts. His seasons always has any doesn't have any
Speaker 1: great solution for it to turn it around, Like over there,
Speaker 1: do you think it's gonna be the guy who's gonna
Speaker 1: turn it around? I thought Fowler was a nice signing,
Speaker 1: but I mean he's not going to do it by himself.
Speaker 1: I must note that Jamal Adams Um, what fits very
Speaker 1: well into Seattle's defense. He was all over the place
Speaker 1: because I mean that was that was a way to see,
Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to know how he'd fit. But
Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner, who you know, this is not breaking news,
Speaker 1: was sensational, and Jamal Adams just right away, um provided pressure.
Speaker 1: He caused chaos in the pocket. Um he was all
Speaker 1: over the place, just the way that you'd expect him
Speaker 1: to be. And I think it took a little bit
Speaker 1: of the you know, concern over how much they spent
Speaker 1: on him. If you're going to get this player week
Speaker 1: after week, I think it's like, I know it's week one,
Speaker 1: but I really do if if this approach and in
Speaker 1: the first half, the Seahawks through it eighteen times and
Speaker 1: they ran at five, and so that's a great indication
Speaker 1: because it's it's the first half, it's obviously close that
Speaker 1: they come out so past happen. If this really means
Speaker 1: that they are gonna be more passed happy this year,
Speaker 1: look watch out. I think that's a huge unlocking of
Speaker 1: their potential. Um Our friend Bill Billy Barnwell kind of
Speaker 1: pointed this out with with Andy Reid going for it
Speaker 1: on fourth down, in his own end last year, Like
Speaker 1: Andy Reid is always one of the most conservative guys
Speaker 1: on fourth down, and he had some luck with it
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl last year, and then now he's
Speaker 1: starting to go for fourth time. It's like, watch out
Speaker 1: for the Chiefs if they're suddenly actually taking advantage of
Speaker 1: the fourth down like the Ravens used to the Ravens.
Speaker 1: And watch out for the Seahawks if they're a past
Speaker 1: first team and they're letting rust you know, Cook to
Speaker 1: the fullest of visibilities. Man, they're dangerous. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: rewatching breaking bad right now. So when people say let
Speaker 1: rust Cook, it's it's a little weird for me. Um. Also,
Speaker 1: does anyone call Bill Barnewell Billy Barnwell, because I just
Speaker 1: maybe that should be a thing. Probably maybe his grandmother
Speaker 1: type of you know, it's like type call from the booth,
Speaker 1: that type of vibe, you know, easy Midwestern vibe. Elie Barnwell.
Speaker 1: I like that Billy b I don't know if I've
Speaker 1: ever said it to his face, right, I'd like to
Speaker 1: find out how he feels about the beat suddenly being
Speaker 1: called Billy as a as a you know, midstage adult.
Speaker 1: The last guy that called Bill Barnwell, Billy ended up underground.
Speaker 1: I have, I have this on good authority. A lot
Speaker 1: of dead people. Yeah, unless you call him Billy. Any
Speaker 1: other thoughts on this game. I thought that Todd Gurley
Speaker 1: for all the you know, you know, Todd Gurley essentially
Speaker 1: put him out to put him out on a boat
Speaker 1: into the ocean talk. You know. I have one of
Speaker 1: the people saying that, but like it would be like
Speaker 1: a funeral buyer, kind of like the funeral. Yeah, one
Speaker 1: of those deals, you know. But he's like, guys, don't
Speaker 1: shoot fire arrows at my boat. I'm alive. He ran,
Speaker 1: you know. My expectations are just very low, and it's like,
Speaker 1: where are we gonna be two months with with Gurley
Speaker 1: and his knees and stuff. But m m, he ran
Speaker 1: pretty well today. And I mean other players on the
Speaker 1: team thought that he looked like the old Todd Gurley.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he looked actually like the old
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley. I mean, that wasn't like the most party.
Speaker 1: That wasn't a huge cell by you there, Marcus. He
Speaker 1: didn't come out think I'm out of the tunnel in
Speaker 1: a wheelchair. So no, I'm not because I don't. I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to like people are gonna go watch this
Speaker 1: game and be like Cessler thought Gurley looked awesome. That's
Speaker 1: not what I'm saying. It's just that the variance of
Speaker 1: what we could have gotten from Todd Gurley could have
Speaker 1: been a lot worse. He looks starts every take playing
Speaker 1: defense against possible tweets. Well, you ever try being me
Speaker 1: on this podcast. You gotta you gotta start on defense,
Speaker 1: all right, Let's uh, let's keep moving. Shoe Robinson the
Speaker 1: running back, play fake mince you looks fires corn of
Speaker 1: the end zone, wide open, stealing Cole is gonna walk
Speaker 1: into the end zone, puts down Jacksonville Jackson taking the
Speaker 1: lead with five fifty six to play in the ball game.
Speaker 1: Frank Frangie with the called w o kay the tank
Speaker 1: for trad not so fast. Gardner meanshoe through three touchdown passes,
Speaker 1: including at twenty two yard You cool in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: The Jags opened the season by beating the Colts Rosevels Colts.
Speaker 1: Rosie has the Cults in the Super Bowl winning it all.
Speaker 1: He couldn't beat the Jars, and we stopped hitting now
Speaker 1: because the debts loss in the papers West West US
Speaker 1: sky high on the Colts as well entering Week one.
Speaker 1: What we're wrong here? They were squandering sons of building blocks.
Speaker 1: I mean they squandered the whole game, squandered early, squandered late,
Speaker 1: and squandered the lead away. They they doubled the total
Speaker 1: yardage of the Jaguars. They didn't punt a single time
Speaker 1: in this game, Um, but they gave it away to
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers interceptions, Nae mind stuffed um inside the five
Speaker 1: yard line on fourth down. Rodrigo blanket Ship, the rookie
Speaker 1: field goal kicker missed, missed a kick, Um Dack Doyle
Speaker 1: had a crackback block that interrupted a drive late in
Speaker 1: the game. A lot of a lot of mistakes, And
Speaker 1: I was wondering, if I'm a Colts fan, how do
Speaker 1: I feel about this game? You lose to a team
Speaker 1: you should be that. That's no good. He lose Marlon
Speaker 1: Mack probably for the year with an achilles. On the
Speaker 1: other hand, Naim Hinds. You look at him and you
Speaker 1: couldn't ask for a quarterback more suited to bring out
Speaker 1: Naim Heins skill set. Jonathan Taylor undeniably looks electric with
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands, and even though you don't
Speaker 1: have Marlon mack jon and Taylor is a bigger, big
Speaker 1: play threat. You can already see that he's incredibly talented.
Speaker 1: Um Philip Rivers throws two interceptions on balls. Maybe they
Speaker 1: don't get intercepted early in his career when he's got
Speaker 1: more muscle on the ball. He's always gonna give his
Speaker 1: receivers a chance to make plays in fifty fifty situations.
Speaker 1: And he got burned a couple of times today on that.
Speaker 1: And he got burned because it looked like the Colts
Speaker 1: plan was to attack Jaguars rookie first rounder C. J. Henderson,
Speaker 1: who was the player of the game, and intercepts and
Speaker 1: three pass breakups, a couple of big tackles right in
Speaker 1: front of the first down marker and key situations. Really
Speaker 1: big game from him. Mm hmm, I'm I want to
Speaker 1: This is one of the games I'm gonna dial up
Speaker 1: pretty early on game pass just because it's so weird.
Speaker 1: I mean, Minshew had one in completion, as you mentioned.
Speaker 1: I mean they the Jaggers only had but less than
Speaker 1: three hundred yards in the scheme, two hundred and forty
Speaker 1: one yards in this game, and they found a way
Speaker 1: uh to win it. And then of all the young
Speaker 1: players you mentioned Paris Campbell, I don't think he said
Speaker 1: his name too. They were he was their leading receiver.
Speaker 1: So it was like a lot of new Colts. Uh.
Speaker 1: It almost sounds like a Chargers game though you know,
Speaker 1: you know, it looked like it looked like Rivers had
Speaker 1: been in that offense for ten union. He was doing things.
Speaker 1: He caught the Jaguars defense off guard a few times.
Speaker 1: He had tricks up his sleeve. Like you said, he
Speaker 1: had total confidence in Paris Campbell was throwing him in
Speaker 1: the ball a lot and key situations. Um. I was
Speaker 1: really impressed with Philip Rivers. To me, if I'm a
Speaker 1: Colts fan, I think, Okay, he made a the mistakes
Speaker 1: and he's not quite what he used to be arm
Speaker 1: strength wise, but he's got total command of this offense
Speaker 1: and he's got enough talent here that to get fifth
Speaker 1: four and fifty yards. Like it almost feels like you
Speaker 1: should do that every week. I would West, I'd ask like,
Speaker 1: if you're a concerned Cults fan, and you in your mind,
Speaker 1: if these two teams played each other the next nine weeks,
Speaker 1: what would Indies record be? Uh? And also is. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the Minshew day and I I love it.
Speaker 1: But is there an element of fools gold there? Does
Speaker 1: or does it only strengthen what you were a Minshew guy?
Speaker 1: Does it strengthen what you feel about Minshew? Well, I
Speaker 1: would say the Cults will go eight and two in
Speaker 1: that ten game sample size. They thoroughly outplayed the Jaguars today. Um,
Speaker 1: they Jaguars capitalized. And that's where I give him in
Speaker 1: show Minshew credit. He didn't ever go beyond himself. Jake
Speaker 1: Ruden called a really good game. Um, it was pretty conservative,
Speaker 1: but he played to the He called it to the scoreboard,
Speaker 1: and Minshew played to the scoreboard when they didn't take
Speaker 1: any chances when the games were close, and he kept
Speaker 1: them in it and in shoe short passes inaccurate and
Speaker 1: James Robinson the undrafted rookie, first undrafted rookie to start
Speaker 1: a running back in the NFL on opening day in
Speaker 1: thirty years. It looks pretty good. So they do have
Speaker 1: some symbones of a running game, um, and a ball
Speaker 1: control attack. I'm not gonna you're not gonna look at
Speaker 1: this and think like Phil Sims Super Bowl good. He's
Speaker 1: nineteen and twenty because of situation and good decision making. Mhm, well, listen,
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers was famous for these losses and Chargers land too.
Speaker 1: Let's be fair, these games where it's like narrow losses
Speaker 1: to a team that you shouldn't have been with a
Speaker 1: couple with a couple of turnovers involved, and listen, West
Speaker 1: watch the game. I still have to watch it. But
Speaker 1: how many times did we read about these games that
Speaker 1: involved Rivers in San Diego or l A. And now
Speaker 1: that that seemed to have followed them to Indianapolis, Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know if and Jackson's single game in Jackson
Speaker 1: Wilson the jag Wears own the cold, sneaky, it's fair
Speaker 1: to make that point then, But I'm just thinking as
Speaker 1: a Colt fan, if I'm this is this is the
Speaker 1: first I've seen out the Rivers, and on the spectrum
Speaker 1: of where he could have been, like, washed up is
Speaker 1: one possibility, and he did not look washed up in
Speaker 1: any way to me, So if I'm a I'm excited
Speaker 1: that he he can move this offense up and down
Speaker 1: the field almost at will, especially after watching sixteen games
Speaker 1: of Jacoby Brissette. And we like Jake brisket, but he
Speaker 1: is not the most fun quarterback to watch. Rivers at
Speaker 1: least slings it around and he's he's got he opened
Speaker 1: so many possibilities. Yeah, he lets the coaching staff do
Speaker 1: more things. Yeah, all right, let's keep moving. Shotgun formation
Speaker 1: snapped to Murray in trouble, steps up and runs to
Speaker 1: his right at the twenty, cuts back to the left
Speaker 1: of the tent, breaks a tackle of the five, running
Speaker 1: right for the end zone, touched out. If you're going
Speaker 1: to go after him, you, oh my god, Ron will
Speaker 1: be sounds like the incredible Hulk. Now what is going on?
Speaker 1: Is that is his voice? There's no one in the stadium.
Speaker 1: It used to be the Jesse the body. He's graduated
Speaker 1: from Jesse, the body of entire, and he's now Hulk.
Speaker 1: It's cooler every year. We love Ron Wolfe kt C
Speaker 1: A R with the call. Kyler Murray through for two
Speaker 1: and thirty yards in a touchdown, ran for ninety yards
Speaker 1: in another store. In fact, he was over a hundred
Speaker 1: and then lost his hundred yard game because of QB
Speaker 1: neildowns at the end. But anyway, the Cardinals win over
Speaker 1: the defending NFC champion Niners at a smoky browl bottom
Speaker 1: Mark Cliff Kingsbury's team watched wiped out to fourth quarter deficits,
Speaker 1: got a big stop at the end. A great start
Speaker 1: to the season for the card Yeah, I mean our
Speaker 1: friend Jason Zumwalt, a noted Cardinals fan, texted Danny texted
Speaker 1: us he was rather a is pleased and seeking other
Speaker 1: ways to feel good about his life. At one point, Um,
Speaker 1: during the game, it was kind of faceless early on,
Speaker 1: and it was, you know, outside of a big catch
Speaker 1: and run touchdown by Raheem Moster, there just wasn't a
Speaker 1: lot happening. And then suddenly I really think it was
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray's legs and and this is this is the
Speaker 1: threat that he brings and they know how to use
Speaker 1: him that way. Um changed the game entirely. And then
Speaker 1: you know, there was a lot of hemming and hallind
Speaker 1: over DeAndre Hopkins and the fact that he didn't really
Speaker 1: work with Kyler Murray in the offseason much at all,
Speaker 1: very little time together in camp. Fourteen catches a hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty one yards and he should have had a touchdown,
Speaker 1: right he did, and he like he he had a
Speaker 1: touchdown that they brought back to the one which created
Speaker 1: a Kenyan Drake touchdown, So you know, all all washed
Speaker 1: out the same. He looked good. What there were plays
Speaker 1: where Hopkins and Murray were not on the same page
Speaker 1: um early on, but he really caught fire late. And
Speaker 1: I just think this Cardinals offense and to to in
Speaker 1: the from a predictable nature. They ran a ton of
Speaker 1: ten and eleven um sets where you just got a
Speaker 1: ton of wide out So I think that spread that
Speaker 1: kind of you know, spreads out the defense, and it
Speaker 1: spread out the Niners defense and probably made them a
Speaker 1: little bit uncomfortable. The bigger issue for the Niners there
Speaker 1: was a scary looking injury to George Kittle, and he
Speaker 1: said basically he kind of Jimmy g threw a pass
Speaker 1: high Kittle left up into the air and got taken
Speaker 1: down on his knee and basically came back in the game.
Speaker 1: It never was really the same, and it kind of
Speaker 1: just showed you that I think he'll be all right,
Speaker 1: but that that when he's not in there, you really
Speaker 1: don't have a whole lot right now behind behind Mustard.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's you've got really one or two guys
Speaker 1: that can contribute, and Jimmy G had a chance to
Speaker 1: go down and win this with a touchdown at the end,
Speaker 1: and he you know, the Cardinals have a few pieces
Speaker 1: on defense. This one guy um second year corner Byron
Speaker 1: Murphy made a great breakup on a pass that also
Speaker 1: Jimmy G through to Trent Tailor and threw behind him
Speaker 1: a little bit on a key fourth and five and
Speaker 1: airs on a sixteen. I mean that the game came
Speaker 1: down to that. These guys, he's playing each other close.
Speaker 1: Jimmy G made a few bad throws in this game.
Speaker 1: I mean he threw ten throws to his wide receivers.
Speaker 1: We've been talking about these wide receivers and figuring, Okay,
Speaker 1: Shanahan can scheme it up, and I'm sure he he will,
Speaker 1: But only ten throws to your wide receivers for only
Speaker 1: a total of forty one yards, which and it's Kendrick
Speaker 1: born in Trent Taylor. It's like, well, then the kid
Speaker 1: will has to be dominating and your defense has to
Speaker 1: be dominating, and just off the off the statue. To me,
Speaker 1: it's shocking. They had three QB hits mark forty throws
Speaker 1: for Kyler Murray. I know they throw a quick uh.
Speaker 1: The Arizona but it's like, that's not the forty Niners
Speaker 1: defense were used to see. No, it just didn't look
Speaker 1: like they didn't. It didn't carry over for the Niners
Speaker 1: on either side of the ball. I think they a
Speaker 1: healthy version of the team will be fine. But you know,
Speaker 1: I just would say, you come away feeling exciting if
Speaker 1: you're a Cardinals fan, because the stuff that you were
Speaker 1: anticipating and hoping showed up by the end the game.
Speaker 1: It feels like a little bit of reductive thinking going
Speaker 1: into the season two because we knew that these wide
Speaker 1: receiver issues were real for the Niners, and there just
Speaker 1: seemed to be a vibe like, well, George Kittle is amazing,
Speaker 1: so they'll just funnel him and he'll get seven targets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but guess what the other the other team on the
Speaker 1: other side of the field knows what's coming. And that's
Speaker 1: a tough situation for Kittle. And you mentioned the Kittle
Speaker 1: lower body issue. That's scary. It doesn't make me think
Speaker 1: a little bit with him because he's known as a
Speaker 1: tremendous blocker in addition to being a great playmaker. That
Speaker 1: that was Gronk, That was Pete Gronk and his body
Speaker 1: got beat up after a while repeatedly because he was
Speaker 1: physical in all ways. I hope that's not George Kittle's future,
Speaker 1: but he was banged up throughout last year and it
Speaker 1: sounds like it's happening again now. Yeah. I think that's
Speaker 1: a fair comparison for playing style both relentless after the catch,
Speaker 1: and that's where a lot of injuries happened to um.
Speaker 1: But I don't think you're gonna change the way George
Speaker 1: Kittle play, so you just have to live with him
Speaker 1: being an injury. These division wins are big early, that's
Speaker 1: the thing. I know, these games we're not taking as
Speaker 1: much as you normally would, but it's it's still gonna
Speaker 1: be the same division win. That the fact that they
Speaker 1: got it done. Who knows, maybe there'll be a crowd
Speaker 1: in Arizona by the time they can actually uh play
Speaker 1: there again. They I mean, Kingsbury loves it if you
Speaker 1: can be out rushing Kyle shay Inahan. I mean, these
Speaker 1: two offenses are so different, but they both want to run.
Speaker 1: And Kyler Murray running for that much meant they ran
Speaker 1: for a hundred and eighty yards. I mean that that
Speaker 1: is a recipe to win in Arizona. Hey, west, you
Speaker 1: right ahead to the corner of Main Street and Lincoln
Speaker 1: Avenue in the west side of Cincinnati. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: just took a guess, took a shot atoln doesn't sound right?
Speaker 1: All right? Right near by house from the right half
Speaker 1: Pete Rose Way, and it's no good. He pushed it
Speaker 1: wide right. The Chargers are gonna win on a missed
Speaker 1: field goal by Randy Bullock. Ah, Randy. Randy Bullock missed
Speaker 1: the thirty one yard field goal try with two seconds
Speaker 1: to play, spoiling Joe Burrow's NFL debut and allowing the
Speaker 1: Chargers to escape with a sin at Paul Brown Stadium. That,
Speaker 1: of course, by the way, was our buddy Matt money Smith,
Speaker 1: the voice of God for the Around the NFL podcast,
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow's debut listen. It wasn't uh, it wasn't r
Speaker 1: G three back in two thousand twelve. It wasn't this
Speaker 1: like incredible game that will never forget. But he showed things.
Speaker 1: He had a great touchdown scramble twenty three yards on
Speaker 1: a it wasn't even scramble. I think it was a
Speaker 1: designed draw. And then he led the team down the field. Um,
Speaker 1: he was up and down throughout the four quarters. But
Speaker 1: then when he needed to get them uh into field
Speaker 1: goal position or scoring position. He recovered from a bad interception.
Speaker 1: Uh Melvin Room picked him off on a shovel pass.
Speaker 1: He's leading him down the field, he spots a J.
Speaker 1: Green in the corner front corner of the end zone,
Speaker 1: hits him for the apparent game winning touchdown. Flag comes
Speaker 1: out offensive past interference on a J. Green. It was
Speaker 1: the right call, it wasn't maybe maybe it wasn't a
Speaker 1: no brainer, but I understand why the flag was thrown.
Speaker 1: So they bring out Randy and he pushes it right
Speaker 1: and immediately comes down with some type of lower body
Speaker 1: injury himself. I don't know. Sometimes you wonder with kickers
Speaker 1: this this is a little bit convenient up the calf
Speaker 1: one out, just missed the thirty one yard or uh
Speaker 1: welcoming the kicker club with that kind of derision. Yeah, yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: now Randy has been trying to get in the kicker
Speaker 1: club for many years. This is not going to help
Speaker 1: him anyway. So the Chargers get the win. Good for them.
Speaker 1: They lost a lot of games like this last year,
Speaker 1: so it's good to see them get this win. The
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor, or I wish Tyrod Taylor was just like,
Speaker 1: what's the thing from Star Wars Mark Han Sol gets
Speaker 1: frozen in carbon carbonite? Yeah, carbon freeze. That is that
Speaker 1: the reference? Okay, Um, so I went Taylor was frozen
Speaker 1: in carbonite, the perfect hard knocks quarterback because once the
Speaker 1: guy starts playing, he just kind of puts me to sleep. Uh.
Speaker 1: And this offense wasn't doing much. But the Chargers get
Speaker 1: the win and the Bengal is gonna bangle and bungle.
Speaker 1: They did kick Burrow go ahead men, kick man came close, right,
Speaker 1: I mean that calf muscle, I don't want it to be,
Speaker 1: but that thing better be off the bone to be
Speaker 1: missing a thirty one yard Yeah, miss the kick kicks?
Speaker 1: I think what I wait, what a way to have
Speaker 1: your guy, your rookie quarterback, looks like he's gonna bring
Speaker 1: you back for the win. You lose the touchdown, at
Speaker 1: least you have the tie and then your kicker and
Speaker 1: against worse, we had a lock of the week and
Speaker 1: it was who remotely me and Ri tell that had
Speaker 1: to be a little painful. Um, I mean I felt
Speaker 1: the pain here just because I don't know, I wanted
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow to have an exciting start here, but if
Speaker 1: you're picking them as a lock the Bengals, something's a
Speaker 1: little different. Exactly. Oh no, it was just like it
Speaker 1: was like a gauntlet. Who can you pick? Like every
Speaker 1: team you want to pick, it's like, oh no, they're problems.
Speaker 1: They're probably not gonna pass the mirror test. I gotta
Speaker 1: go check greg test, you know. So I wanted the Dealers,
Speaker 1: but then I didn't feel right. So I was like,
Speaker 1: I gotta take someone here. And it felt fun to
Speaker 1: pick Burrow. I don't think I was really competitive spirit
Speaker 1: well highs. It didn't really kill me to lose a
Speaker 1: lock in the first game. Yeah, it was. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be a tough watch for the Bengals fan deep within
Speaker 1: Chris Westling because Burrow the the touchdown round was fun
Speaker 1: and the final drive showed some moxie. But he also
Speaker 1: overthrew John Ross for a touchdown. He overthrew a J
Speaker 1: Greens that Ross should catch. Let's just get definitely well,
Speaker 1: I saw one pen yes, I saw one pass where
Speaker 1: he you know, I was scrambling around behind let's let's
Speaker 1: remember a very bad offensive line in my opinion, and
Speaker 1: he he got hammered on a fourteen yard sack directly
Speaker 1: as a result of like incredible pressure from the Chargers.
Speaker 1: But there was a pass he threw to Mixing where
Speaker 1: he basically threw it behind him to Mixing, and Mixing
Speaker 1: obviously didn't catch it and had to run around to
Speaker 1: scramble and jump on it to basically recover what was
Speaker 1: a fumble. But then he had that touchdown run after,
Speaker 1: and I guess, like, what more would you want from
Speaker 1: a guy who's never played an NFL snap then to
Speaker 1: make good plays after a few bad ones. I think
Speaker 1: it showed some resilience and you know, I mean, Burrow
Speaker 1: to me is exciting. He plays a terrible Browns defense
Speaker 1: next on Thursday night, so he may not be too
Speaker 1: far from a from another good outeam. The final drive
Speaker 1: was very composed. I mean, that was that was a plus.
Speaker 1: You know. The negative is you you watch him and
Speaker 1: you see a little bit of Danny Dimes in there,
Speaker 1: and that is that you don't feel like he's got
Speaker 1: a a big arm, and so you know he's creative,
Speaker 1: but you gotta you gotta. That's where you need your
Speaker 1: mental stuff to catch up. And that's tough as a
Speaker 1: rookie in your first game, looks like you you gotta
Speaker 1: be if you don't have a big arm, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be his legs and it's gonna be him creating some
Speaker 1: and they're right in this game. I mean, that's why
Speaker 1: I'm not I know I had him in the in
Speaker 1: the playoffs as one of my one of my props here,
Speaker 1: but this is why I love Anthony Lynn the man.
Speaker 1: But sometimes the game management decisions during the game is
Speaker 1: he plays them so close to the vest, and I
Speaker 1: think he invites games like this, you know, kicking fifty
Speaker 1: five yard field goals instead of going for it on
Speaker 1: fourth and two. Hate that they miss it, of course,
Speaker 1: it sets them up. And it's just it's not surprising
Speaker 1: that this team like grinds it out against the Bengals
Speaker 1: team that's maybe a little shorter on talent. You know,
Speaker 1: we are about ten months away from next summer when
Speaker 1: we're being told that the game is slowing down for
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow and he sees the field so much better
Speaker 1: it did. I'm not name your favorite quarterback expert, Tom
Speaker 1: House or Dan Orlovsky. I'm not any of those guys,
Speaker 1: but it did seem like things were moving a little
Speaker 1: fast for the kid in the first game, and of
Speaker 1: course it should no preseason games, no real off season program,
Speaker 1: and now you're in the game week one. It gets
Speaker 1: a very good Chargers pass rush. I would say, all
Speaker 1: things considered, and he did leave throws on the field
Speaker 1: and all that, and he had a really bad turnover
Speaker 1: on the shovel pass to Ingram. I'm still feeling very
Speaker 1: excited right now because he brings juice to the building.
Speaker 1: I think things were moving fast for him, in large
Speaker 1: part because his tackles were getting beat, but also because
Speaker 1: it took him a while to go through his progressions.
Speaker 1: And I thought he looked way more decisive as a
Speaker 1: runner than he did as a passer. He looked really
Speaker 1: good to me. Whenever he had to pull it down
Speaker 1: and ron, he did it decisively and got where he
Speaker 1: wanted to get right And in college, like you'll learn
Speaker 1: that shovel pass yet, I mean, that's the type of
Speaker 1: thing you don't see in college. A two hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy pound Melvin Ingram table. However, you're running back and
Speaker 1: catch a pass, it's like it's just you don't expect.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on, Mark, you know, I've decided
Speaker 1: to isolate these two games, and with Halloween coming up
Speaker 1: around the corner, entered the haunted mansion of the Around
Speaker 1: the NFL podcast. It's appropriate, you guys get your own
Speaker 1: what the hell? What the hell of a day? Come in?
Speaker 1: If you dare Jackson to throw on third down and
Speaker 1: don't touchdown? Mark Andrews his second of a day. That
Speaker 1: was a great back shoulder throw, back to back touchdown
Speaker 1: drives for Lamar Jackson, Jerry say Dusky and Femmi Iya
Speaker 1: Bundejo of w B A L w B A L.
Speaker 1: With the call, Lamar Jackson through for two and seventy
Speaker 1: five yards and three touchdowns, and the Ravens roll to
Speaker 1: a thirty eight to six win, ruining the debut of
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski and his maiden voyage was Cleveland head coach.
Speaker 1: Market appears that the Browns weren't remotely closed ready for
Speaker 1: the defending division chances. Yeah, I think I, like a
Speaker 1: lot of Browns fans, had concern about this particular matchup
Speaker 1: being your Week one draw, and um, you know it's funny.
Speaker 1: I tweeted out this video on Saturday about their opening
Speaker 1: drive last year against the Titans where Baker Mayfield and
Speaker 1: the offense just marched down the field and you're thinking,
Speaker 1: this is it, this is what we've been hearing about
Speaker 1: all summer, and all these pieces are you know, playing
Speaker 1: in concert. And then Austin Cybert botched the p A
Speaker 1: T and like the game went totally downhill from here.
Speaker 1: He missed his first p A T again today and
Speaker 1: it kind of just reawoke in horrid memories from a
Speaker 1: year ago. I kind of think, if you're a Browns fan,
Speaker 1: you gotta blow it up. You just gotta throw bury
Speaker 1: the ball, as they say, get rid of it and
Speaker 1: hope things improved. They look completely out of sync and
Speaker 1: had a lot to do with who they were playing.
Speaker 1: The Ravens are I think, one of the best teams
Speaker 1: in the league. When they target a free agent, he
Speaker 1: comes in and he contributes right away. Calias Campbell right
Speaker 1: off the bat, tipped to pass. He knocked another one
Speaker 1: down late in the game. He had another tip that
Speaker 1: interested that turned into an early Baker Mayfield interception. The
Speaker 1: Browns never really got on track after that ever. Again, Uh,
Speaker 1: they have all these parts and they don't look like
Speaker 1: they do. Where the Ravens lamar Jackson, you know, to
Speaker 1: me through the air played one of the better games
Speaker 1: we've seen it. Think it was they just looked like
Speaker 1: they didn't They didn't miss a beat. And I think
Speaker 1: if you're a Ravens fan, everyone's saying there's no way
Speaker 1: to get back to fourteen and two, okay, but if
Speaker 1: you play like this, you're gonna be real close. Or
Speaker 1: here's the better thing, you're gonna be a better team
Speaker 1: than you were last year. I think they did a
Speaker 1: better job st copping the run. The Patrick queen Um
Speaker 1: made plays. You know, you know, rookie young Ravens skies
Speaker 1: don't take they don't take four years to develop. That
Speaker 1: happens quicker in Baltimore. And they just looked like they
Speaker 1: weren't missing any pieces. I also think they played a
Speaker 1: pretty bad team. So let's see how the Ravens look
Speaker 1: when they played the Texans next time around. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: doesn't look good. Just looking at the box score mark,
Speaker 1: it looks like, uh Baker Mayfield struggle the average less
Speaker 1: than five yards per tempted draded the dreaded Gabbard zone.
Speaker 1: Looks like you did some damage on the ground. But
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham three for two a couple of bad drops,
Speaker 1: a couple of targets. Yep, Myles Garrett, I love you,
Speaker 1: but you know, very little production from Myles Garrett today.
Speaker 1: And I just I You've got these names, but they
Speaker 1: don't they don't seem to make it happen here in
Speaker 1: these games, those guys have to play like superstars, not
Speaker 1: just decent starters. They have superstars. And by the way,
Speaker 1: I saw everybody getting on me on Twitter about locking
Speaker 1: up the Ravens. But you know what, I speaking of
Speaker 1: the haunted houses, like everyone was just wanted to make
Speaker 1: Freddie Kitchens the boogeyman. I just wanted to go out
Speaker 1: there and say, before a week one, let's see if
Speaker 1: that guy was really the only thing that's the problem
Speaker 1: in that building. Uh in beret on the haunted buryer,
Speaker 1: the the burial ground that the whole building is built on.
Speaker 1: And apparently that's not. If you can't blame Freddie anymore,
Speaker 1: because this team looked every bit as bad as it
Speaker 1: did with Freddie Kitchens as the head coach. And I
Speaker 1: will but I will allow let me say this though,
Speaker 1: people that were getting on me for not looking in
Speaker 1: the mirror, I gotta be honest. I didn't even look
Speaker 1: in the mirror. I was I didn't really have time.
Speaker 1: We were busy on Thursday. People thought. Yeah, for people
Speaker 1: who thought that maybe it's unfair to be locking up
Speaker 1: the Ravens in that situation, I will make it up
Speaker 1: to everyone that's a listener by locking up a team
Speaker 1: that really doesn't need to be locked up in week two.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna that's what I do. That's what the
Speaker 1: old Juser does. I'm even in the scales if you
Speaker 1: really thought that I was out of line, but I'm
Speaker 1: I'm taking this lot because there were a lot of
Speaker 1: people that thought the Browns were gonna be better and
Speaker 1: they were this post hype sleeper. Yeah, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: give up on on them because they got drugged by
Speaker 1: the Ravens and I'll probably be uh proven wrong, but
Speaker 1: this is about as ugly as it gets. You managed
Speaker 1: to stop the Ravens on the ground. I mean, that
Speaker 1: was the thing. That's the thing that stands out to
Speaker 1: me just looking at it. This was the worst game,
Speaker 1: um that the Ravens have had rushing the ball, I
Speaker 1: think since Lamar Jackson took over as quarterback. Definitely worse
Speaker 1: than any game they had in all of nineteen, So
Speaker 1: actually it didn't quite. Even though the score looks familiar,
Speaker 1: just the way that they got there is different. I'm
Speaker 1: not and I would just say that, like you don't
Speaker 1: come away thinking, um deep concerns over Baltimore's ground game.
Speaker 1: I think that just the way the game played out
Speaker 1: a little bit like Mark Andrews was on fire, Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson was making great throws and Cleveland's got a banged
Speaker 1: up secondary and they were victimized for it. It's probably
Speaker 1: taking what defenses are going to give them, which this year.
Speaker 1: I'm look, they were trying to stop the Ravens last
Speaker 1: year the running game, but I think defenses will sell
Speaker 1: out even more and Lamar is shown he can take
Speaker 1: advantage of Browns are playing again in four days. Mark,
Speaker 1: you excited, it's too soon. I don't, like I can
Speaker 1: I be honest. I just like you know you're working,
Speaker 1: You're working through a lot of stuff on these sundays,
Speaker 1: like you know the days of me, like you know,
Speaker 1: pouting in the corner. It's over. You just gotta move on,
Speaker 1: like wake me up. When they when they are entertaining,
Speaker 1: just be entertaining. And they weren't it's a bad football
Speaker 1: and it's because you played a team that's been entertaining
Speaker 1: for twenty years and understands what being in the NFL means.
Speaker 1: I just say you, your football team wants to stand
Speaker 1: up and kick you in the butt. Stand in line, buddy,
Speaker 1: wait around the corner for everything else. Kicking us in
Speaker 1: the butt, right exactly. It mattered a lot less this summer.
Speaker 1: We'll get away at it all right. I Mark, You're
Speaker 1: not the only fan getting kicked in the butt, so too,
Speaker 1: we're Jets fans. Alan fire. It's a quick one caught
Speaker 1: by John Brown. Lowe makes you catch at the ten
Speaker 1: at the five, cruises into the talk touchdown Buffalo John
Speaker 1: Brown a seventeen yard touchdown catch from Josh Ammit Steve.
Speaker 1: That was too easy, man, Come on, John Murphy rubbing
Speaker 1: salt in the wound up in w g R in
Speaker 1: Western New York. Josh Allen threw for more than three
Speaker 1: yards for the first time in his career in tally
Speaker 1: three scores through the air and on the ground and
Speaker 1: a seventeen win over the Jets in Orchard Park. Alan
Speaker 1: also lost two fumbles in Jets territory. You missed, John
Speaker 1: Brown on a gimme touchdown toss. But overall did his
Speaker 1: job for a Buffalo team that was superior to the
Speaker 1: Jets in every imaginable way. Um, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't even know, like from a Bills standpoint, how much
Speaker 1: I could take from this game. Seventeen was not really
Speaker 1: indicative of what was going on in this game. The
Speaker 1: Bills kept on kicking themselves, um and tripping on their
Speaker 1: own feet the Alan turnovers. I mentioned, they missed short
Speaker 1: field goals even though the first one was probably actually good,
Speaker 1: but the upright wasn't high enough. Maybe we have to
Speaker 1: keep sending those things higher to the sky. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but uh so, the Jets were able to kind of
Speaker 1: hang around James Jamison Crowder caught a wide receiver screen
Speaker 1: and took it about sixty yards uh to to deliver
Speaker 1: most of the Jets offense. So this game could have
Speaker 1: easily been twenty or thirty five, twenty or thirty points
Speaker 1: uh separating it. So I guess it's a moral victory
Speaker 1: for the Jets. But for the Bills. You're better than
Speaker 1: the Jets, that's all I know. You're much better than
Speaker 1: the Jets. But there was enough kind of negative stuff
Speaker 1: in this game too, where I want to see them
Speaker 1: against uh a better opponent. And as for the Jets,
Speaker 1: it's just a mess. And and I'll say that, um,
Speaker 1: Sam Donald and we've heard it at nausea at this
Speaker 1: point has a bad situation and potentially like the worst
Speaker 1: head coach in the league. But he's got to play better.
Speaker 1: He did not play well in this game, and he
Speaker 1: didn't look comfortable. We we read the fluff pieces in
Speaker 1: the during the summer about how he was in year
Speaker 1: two of Gays's system and he was processing things quicker
Speaker 1: and looking more comfortable. He didn't look more comfortable against
Speaker 1: the Bills. Granted it's a tough challenge uh in Buffalo,
Speaker 1: but he didn't look more comfortable. He missed guys that
Speaker 1: were open. He made some bone headed plays, the kind
Speaker 1: of stuff that now in the year three needs to
Speaker 1: start to go away. So again, small sample size, week
Speaker 1: one now is not the time to say, well, he'll
Speaker 1: never figure it out. But as a Jets fan, you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: come on, man, a couple of the plays that he made,
Speaker 1: it's like this can't happen anymore. Uh So, Jets are
Speaker 1: a mess. Jets are embarrassing. Might be the worst team
Speaker 1: in the league. Bill is good for you. You want
Speaker 1: to know, I think the Bills can take away um,
Speaker 1: just the way you start that game to come out
Speaker 1: and just you know, exert your will on another NFL
Speaker 1: team that feels good. And they're they're they're I'm a
Speaker 1: little bit more of a favorite that they've been around.
Speaker 1: They're expected to win this game. They were big favorites.
Speaker 1: They their defense did a great job against and Jets
Speaker 1: last year when they played. And you come out and
Speaker 1: I saw one point. It was nineteen first downs to one,
Speaker 1: and it's just like, Okay, maybe maybe you let your
Speaker 1: foot off the gas a little bit, but that's that's
Speaker 1: all you can hope to accomplish. I think in week
Speaker 1: one and you're right, move on, Uh then to a
Speaker 1: tougher opponent in week two. I mean, Dan, can I
Speaker 1: ask you about there's been all this hubu about, you know,
Speaker 1: the Levan Bell Frank Gore. I'm looking at them both
Speaker 1: with six carries Levy on Bell six carries for fourteen yards,
Speaker 1: and I'm just what injured I wasn't tracking that one
Speaker 1: Lean Bell who came into camp in the best shape
Speaker 1: of his life. Goes out wide, splits out wide right
Speaker 1: and pops his hamstring and then Adam Gaze and the
Speaker 1: coaching staff leave him in the game. Uh. And it
Speaker 1: sounds like he furthered injured the hamstring when he came
Speaker 1: back in and Adam gates. It's actually kind of ironic
Speaker 1: because over the summer you'll remember um Levan Bell blasting
Speaker 1: Gaze on social media for saying that he had a
Speaker 1: hamstring uh injury that he said didn't exist. Well, now
Speaker 1: the controversy this week will be that he actually did
Speaker 1: have a hamstring injury, but the coaches didn't recognize it.
Speaker 1: So that's a fun little bit of subplot for the
Speaker 1: beat writers to sink their teeth into. So we'll see
Speaker 1: how long he's out if he misses next week, but
Speaker 1: who knows. At this point it doesn't matter. I mean,
Speaker 1: Levy on Bell is probably a progress stopper. Where the
Speaker 1: Jets are. I'd like to see le Michael p Ryan,
Speaker 1: who's their third round pick, get an action, get into action,
Speaker 1: but he too is injured with an ankle uh. So
Speaker 1: hopefully he'll get back in the game, but there isn't
Speaker 1: much to be excited about. The only real good news
Speaker 1: that came out of this and the only thing for
Speaker 1: the Jets, uh a summer storyline that actually made it
Speaker 1: from the summer to the game was Marcus May, the
Speaker 1: safety that the second round pick the same year that
Speaker 1: Josh at Our what's his name? I forgot Adams was
Speaker 1: in the same draft as the first round pick. He
Speaker 1: took Adams role and had five tackles, two sacks, two
Speaker 1: pass breakups, and a fumble. So that's good. Everything else
Speaker 1: sent all right, Let's let's get the hell out of
Speaker 1: this place. It's haunt his hell. He keeps getting dark.
Speaker 1: It's very twenty twenty. But we started this show and
Speaker 1: you know, light out, and I was slowly, you know,
Speaker 1: coming into the dark end to get up and turn
Speaker 1: on the lights. At one point, yeah, I want to say,
Speaker 1: there's there, there's nowhere to go but up, But I
Speaker 1: don't know if I believe that. So let's see step
Speaker 1: back Trabisky to wind up, throw down the right side
Speaker 1: from Miller, public shoulder catch, next the gap touchdown, touchdown
Speaker 1: pairs almost like Thanksgiving Day near the two yard line
Speaker 1: and over the shoulder, throw'd a beauty by Mitchell Trabisky.
Speaker 1: Anthony Mother about to get mobbed to the end zone.
Speaker 1: Did you hear that? It's almost like stunned amazement by
Speaker 1: Tom Fayer there and Jeff Johnny ac w BBM with
Speaker 1: the Mitchell Travisky. Yeah you heard that right, Mitch through
Speaker 1: a perfect twenty seven yard go ahead touchdown past Anthony
Speaker 1: Miller with play and then Lions rookie DeAndre Swift dropped
Speaker 1: the would be game winning touchdown in the final seconds
Speaker 1: and the Bears twenty seven three win at Ford Field.
Speaker 1: Mark it's only dawned on me now today in fact,
Speaker 1: that you're the Browns fan who decided to make the
Speaker 1: Lions your secondary team. Why do you do this to yourself?
Speaker 1: Just exploring new territories of total darkness? Um, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think a lot of Lions fans. There's there's a group
Speaker 1: of us that have glombed onto the Lions, and a
Speaker 1: lot of Lions fans their immediate reaction was, no, don't
Speaker 1: do this. Number one, we don't want to hear your
Speaker 1: little national reporter hype trained business because we don't buy
Speaker 1: into it. And secondly, like, trust me, this won't go
Speaker 1: well for you. And I mean it was a very
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia era Lions loss. Like there was just no
Speaker 1: excuse to lose the game the way they did. Um,
Speaker 1: it's it's the fact that you can point to one
Speaker 1: team that Mitch Drabinsky has consistently be deviled over and over.
Speaker 1: It's the Lions. That's not a great resume builder for
Speaker 1: Patricia either. And you know, it was a tale of
Speaker 1: right they are I mean right because I don't know
Speaker 1: what from a Bears angle, like, I think that if
Speaker 1: you if you pause the game at halftime, you would
Speaker 1: be thinking everyone is they're going to clean house at
Speaker 1: some point because it was a tale of two halves.
Speaker 1: Strabisky was was pretty ineffective in the first half, and
Speaker 1: you know, you it's a it's a committee of running backs.
Speaker 1: It's Tarik Cohen, it's Corderrel Patterson, it's David Montgomery, none
Speaker 1: of them really dominant. What happened in the second half was,
Speaker 1: you know, first of all, Detroit is banged up at
Speaker 1: cornerback and they were dealing with injuries. And it showed
Speaker 1: and Strabisky started caught fire down the stretch, made some
Speaker 1: big throws. The Anthony Miller throw was beautiful. Um, I
Speaker 1: give him credit, Like if you look at what he
Speaker 1: did in the fourth quarter. I believe he was seven
Speaker 1: for nine with two touchdowns in a raise to twenty
Speaker 1: three to six deficits. So I think it's a week
Speaker 1: to week proposition with Mr Bisky. Had a lot of
Speaker 1: people tweeting at me after a couple of Bears comments
Speaker 1: like do you bring in folds at halftime? Do you
Speaker 1: just is it gonna? Are we gonna see him that quickly?
Speaker 1: You kept that conversation quiet for another week. I don't
Speaker 1: love this Bears team. Um. I think the defense is
Speaker 1: maybe a little overrated too. But they made some place
Speaker 1: down the stretch, and if you're Alliance fan, it's just
Speaker 1: another one of these games where you do not It
Speaker 1: just did not did not add up. And Stafford looked
Speaker 1: pretty good. I mean they had that killer dropped by
Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift in the end zone that hey, Ricky, do
Speaker 1: we have that the Lions call that because that is
Speaker 1: one of the worst drops I can remember. That is
Speaker 1: the game five seconds to Bions from the Bears, sixteen down,
Speaker 1: four eleven seconds to go. He was gonna work out
Speaker 1: of the gun. Bears have three men back that Stafford's
Speaker 1: got it. Three men rush for Chicago Staffords. David DeAndre
Speaker 1: Swift dropped it. It was a touchdown. In his heads,
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, oh no, no, Kevin Patra, buddy, you deserve better.
Speaker 1: There's there's nothing like it was perfect. It was a
Speaker 1: perfect throw. Stafford spotted his running back with his back
Speaker 1: to the pylon. He was gonna catch it, fall in
Speaker 1: for the touchdown. Game over. It would have been four
Speaker 1: seconds to play there in the lead celebration. Tragedy averted instead.
Speaker 1: It is the worst stomach punch you could really imagine
Speaker 1: in a week one game. There is nothing like it
Speaker 1: in our major team sports, or really any sport, because
Speaker 1: there's no other regular season that means so much that
Speaker 1: that that that drop is like it's one sixteenth year season.
Speaker 1: That could be the difference between getting fired or not.
Speaker 1: That could be difference playoffs or not. It's certainly the
Speaker 1: difference of having a miserable week or feeling great that
Speaker 1: you escaped with a comeback victory. You know, put another
Speaker 1: game when you come back on Matthew Stafford's uh you
Speaker 1: know statue, But no like instead, it's like all doom
Speaker 1: and gloom and you can look at the fact that, oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, we lost Justin Coleman. Their slot corner.
Speaker 1: During the game, they lost Desmond Truffont. During the game,
Speaker 1: Jamie Collins is being a knucklehead again and gets kicked
Speaker 1: out of the game. Um, you know during it and
Speaker 1: it's just like Lion's gonna lie in, you know, I
Speaker 1: guess it's it's just means. It's so meaningful that one drop.
Speaker 1: It's just crazy. There's no other sport quite like that.
Speaker 1: How do you sleep if if you're a rookie like
Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift, how do you sleep tonight? I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's possible you have to wipe team has a
Speaker 1: better chance to be relevant, Like on Thanksgiving, I think
Speaker 1: the Lions while they play on Thanksgiving, but yeah, the
Speaker 1: Lions so like you, especially on Thanksgiving, I still think
Speaker 1: the Lions, Like I don't know, maybe I'm just a
Speaker 1: blind idiot at this point, but I just feel like
Speaker 1: they have something. But it's never Holiday today too. Well, Yeah,
Speaker 1: here's the problem, because DeAndre Swift has been hurt for weeks,
Speaker 1: like and and and you know you can't trust carry
Speaker 1: On Johnson. It was Adrian Peterson had like ninety three
Speaker 1: yards and ran pretty well, and it's like suddenly you're
Speaker 1: the team featuring Adrian Peterson at running back, which is
Speaker 1: not a bad thing, but it was not their plan.
Speaker 1: I also, I don't I I saw a tweet some
Speaker 1: questionable Matt Patricia decisions down the stretch that that haunt
Speaker 1: them and that's all These guys come back and things
Speaker 1: can get better. But Patricia is your coach. It's just
Speaker 1: this feels like, I mean, no one was complaining when
Speaker 1: he was like, you know, guy with pencil behind his
Speaker 1: year winning Patriots Super Bowl rings. But um, you know,
Speaker 1: there's a whole different deal here, and the Lions just
Speaker 1: don't seem to have changed or grown that much. There's
Speaker 1: a little bit of complaining one year when they came
Speaker 1: in thirty first and yards allowed and they still made
Speaker 1: it to the super Bowl. Because I'm a miserable bastard
Speaker 1: and my team's terrible. I want to I want more sadness.
Speaker 1: I meant to hear the Randy bullocks sad all out
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati. Let's hear that too, Ricky. The snap is good,
Speaker 1: the kick is wide right. He knows that the Chargers
Speaker 1: hold onto the lead with two seconds to go, and
Speaker 1: Polk is hurt. If I can't be happy, no one
Speaker 1: can look It is hurt. I don't mean cramps. West
Speaker 1: Bullock had cramps like before, the kid never happened to
Speaker 1: him before. He said, it never happened Bright when the
Speaker 1: kick was about to happen, Randy Bullock got cramps. Well,
Speaker 1: cramps are are quite often. Um you know, nerves nerve
Speaker 1: related like you're nervous and you can get cramps. It
Speaker 1: can it can absolutely be something that's mental. So that
Speaker 1: doesn't that doesn't make you feel better as a as
Speaker 1: a Bengals fan. Jeez, all right, let's keep moving. Here's
Speaker 1: the fullback and the Raiders. Hitty, I'm not sure he
Speaker 1: got it. I'm got sure he got it. Raiders were ready.
Speaker 1: Alex Areva, what the you know? Fred Musburger with the
Speaker 1: call there k r LV. Joe Brady is the new
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator in Carolina. He calls a handoff to full
Speaker 1: back Alex Armant on fourth and inches in midfield. He
Speaker 1: stopped at the line with one eleven to play. It's
Speaker 1: the play of the game and the Raiders hold on
Speaker 1: for a win over the Panthers and Charlotte Greg Who
Speaker 1: the hell is Alex Armand and why the hell is
Speaker 1: it Christian McCaffrey getting the ball in that's it was
Speaker 1: a tough one too, because he just felt like neither
Speaker 1: one of these defenses could stop the other. I kind
Speaker 1: of felt, whoever's going to get the ball last is
Speaker 1: gonna win. The Panthers just got the ball back after
Speaker 1: after Derek Carr brought the Raiders up the field to
Speaker 1: take the lead back. I mean, this was a fun
Speaker 1: offensive game. You didn't know what was gonna happen. I
Speaker 1: think it's a fun one to fire up on game pass.
Speaker 1: There were not a lot of stops. I think there
Speaker 1: were twelve scoring drive six stops. Both teams looked very
Speaker 1: well coached on offense um and I just didn't expect
Speaker 1: a defensive player to make the play of the game.
Speaker 1: In this case it was Cleveland Ferrell and the way
Speaker 1: McCaffrey was playing, the way Teddy especially was playing, just
Speaker 1: in terms of his movement. Man, you put him on
Speaker 1: the move and it just gives a lot of problems
Speaker 1: I think for the Raiders defense. Teddy it wasn't a
Speaker 1: perfect game, but I think his arm looked pretty good
Speaker 1: and he and he moved while and he made some
Speaker 1: plays Creek creatively so that the play call was it
Speaker 1: was wild and it was such a just kind of
Speaker 1: like a wet fart ending to uh what was otherwise
Speaker 1: a really exciting game. I think both teams have some
Speaker 1: good things to feel feel after this. Yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: like dream for in week one specifically wherever you're not.
Speaker 1: I mean, the the Raiders, you know, lost Trent Brown early,
Speaker 1: so that's a big, big problem for them, their left tackle.
Speaker 1: And then they lost Sam Young who replaced them right
Speaker 1: after that, so they're on a third stringer, and and
Speaker 1: they still went up and down the field like kind
Speaker 1: of just steamrolling. Um. I think the Panthers with their size,
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs looks so good. He just dominated the ball,
Speaker 1: and their offense looked like a good when it did
Speaker 1: when it was really singing last year. And uh, they
Speaker 1: did enough to win, but it very easily could have
Speaker 1: been a bad rate. If this the Raiders defense is
Speaker 1: this bad old year, it's not gonna matter. They're gonna
Speaker 1: have a similar year to the year they had a
Speaker 1: year ago. I mean, John Gruden compared Josh Jacobs to
Speaker 1: Walter payton Um for his performance today and the fact
Speaker 1: that he simply refused to come off the field and
Speaker 1: wanted the whole game put on his back. So I
Speaker 1: mean that you have these pieces that give you a
Speaker 1: lot of hope for in Las Vegas, and I will,
Speaker 1: I will say that Joe Brady, I mean, is one
Speaker 1: of the more respected coaches around, and I know he's
Speaker 1: new to the NFL, but like he did incredible stuff
Speaker 1: in l s U and got well. I know, but
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be this one play. But I think,
Speaker 1: like Carolina coming down and doing what they did on offense,
Speaker 1: it's gotta be one of the better surprises of the day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the thing, I kept the thing, But don't we
Speaker 1: can't just shift in the talking head thing where like
Speaker 1: we we were right off this very talented play. Good day.
Speaker 1: No Mark's career is over. I'm sorry. Well I didn't
Speaker 1: realize you decide that, But I will, I will get
Speaker 1: out of the way. Alex Armoir. By the way, Alex
Speaker 1: Armore probably like could would beat you in half of
Speaker 1: one instant into like an arm wrestling match and your
Speaker 1: arm would be come off with it. Well, he's definitely strong.
Speaker 1: There's a fullback just the want to you know, you're right,
Speaker 1: Mark to your point to give your boy Matt rule
Speaker 1: and his boy Joe Brady some love. That was my
Speaker 1: takeaway throughout the game was, Wow, this this team looks
Speaker 1: like it's been together for a while. It's not like, hey,
Speaker 1: we need a while to warm up. They looked like
Speaker 1: a very professional offense. Um. They they exposed some bad
Speaker 1: secondary play for the Raiders, but everything looked like it
Speaker 1: was on I'm you know, they used more and Samuel
Speaker 1: and Robby Anderson like. It looked like a frisky, fun offensive.
Speaker 1: We we kind of hoped it with don't up teddy there, West,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe Brady can get a job. Maybe one
Speaker 1: of those development leagues could have been the Jets. So see,
Speaker 1: go ahead, West, give us a salient football point before
Speaker 1: we move on to Sunday Night football. All right, fair enough,
Speaker 1: what it was to Sunday Night Football? Brush Scott going
Speaker 1: deep and it's gonna be caught. Michael Galla Beach ramsay
Speaker 1: that he flagg Is down pass interference offense number turn
Speaker 1: you our penalty. Oh we're back, never too late, Wake up, come, come,
Speaker 1: come come. Oh. Michael Gallop almost the hero. No he's
Speaker 1: not a zero, but he did get an offensive past
Speaker 1: an appearance call with Jalen Ramsey and coverage and it
Speaker 1: basically buried the Cowboys and their Sunday night football opener,
Speaker 1: allowing the Rams to escape with a win in the
Speaker 1: opening of so Fig Stadium or Park. Wow, great start
Speaker 1: for the Rams. Greg Rosenthal, who really played a solid, strong,
Speaker 1: fundamentally um with it game right out of the gate.
Speaker 1: I gotta feel be feeling very good if you're a
Speaker 1: Rams fan right about now. Yeah. My uh, my daughter
Speaker 1: Eli is gonna be excited when she wakes up and
Speaker 1: finds out this final score. Because they looked like the
Speaker 1: old Rams in the sense that their coaches. I think
Speaker 1: we're giving them a big time advantage. Like a lot
Speaker 1: of the players that worked for them in the first
Speaker 1: half were screens, were quick throws by Jared Goff, were
Speaker 1: plays where like they basically we're putting the receiver on
Speaker 1: a platter for golf. And the defensive changes with Brandon Staley,
Speaker 1: who didn't get a lot of attention this offseason taking
Speaker 1: over for Wade Phillips, seemed to make a pretty big
Speaker 1: difference to uh down the stretch. The fact that they've
Speaker 1: let their defense go try to win the game instead
Speaker 1: of going for it on fourth down. Thought that was questionable,
Speaker 1: but that call bailed them out. I don't know I
Speaker 1: I come out of this game. I remember it was
Speaker 1: about a year ago at the end of September when
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore was shot to the leaderboard, uh you know,
Speaker 1: position for assistant coach of the year type roles. And
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on with Kellen Moore right now,
Speaker 1: but there was a sequence in the fourth quarter. It's seen.
Speaker 1: It is third and six at the l A fourteen.
Speaker 1: They run Zeke up the middle for three yards. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's fourth and three from the l A eleven. Ceedee
Speaker 1: Lamb catches that pass, he's tackled short of the sticks.
Speaker 1: Drive over. Do you not kick the field goal there?
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, you have to. I think that they
Speaker 1: never really recovered from that in a game. Some in
Speaker 1: some games, the pace of the game, the way that
Speaker 1: it was forming itself, you'd say, no, we're gonna be aggressive,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go for it. Not this game. I had
Speaker 1: a big problem with that. If it's thirty one in
Speaker 1: that spot, sure go for it. But that game, that
Speaker 1: was a tight, closely fought game. And I'm not that
Speaker 1: worried about Dallas because I really do think the Rams
Speaker 1: played excellent football on both sides, um, and they were
Speaker 1: in their building and all that, but yeah, I was
Speaker 1: really surprised they went for it. That is kind of
Speaker 1: the new age of football now that you're the odds
Speaker 1: say going for it on fourth down is something that's
Speaker 1: gonna pay off more than it's not. But in that spot,
Speaker 1: when you had a chance to tie it up at twenty,
Speaker 1: that really prized me. And it was just really a tough,
Speaker 1: tough night for the Dallas offense. They had uh three
Speaker 1: points on six drives in the second half, and that comes.
Speaker 1: I think we kind of predicted this back on the
Speaker 1: preview show, like just White and Watch after all this
Speaker 1: breathless hype about the Cowboys offense, that they go and
Speaker 1: lay an a egg. I think I said thirteen points.
Speaker 1: They score seventeen. That's not good enough. I liked. I
Speaker 1: like the way Zeke Elliott ran the ball. I still
Speaker 1: think they have awesome weapons, uh Jalen Ramsey and the
Speaker 1: Rams defense played excellent and I think they'll recover. But
Speaker 1: this is kind of a bitter way to start the season.
Speaker 1: And Greg, to the point that you've made a lot,
Speaker 1: it's like here we go again with the Cowboys. All
Speaker 1: the hype and then a big another wet fart I
Speaker 1: I am worried about. I mean, I don't know what
Speaker 1: team had a worst Week one. They just lost their
Speaker 1: tight end, Blake Darwin, who they loved for the season
Speaker 1: with the Torneys Mark and I could give you two teams.
Speaker 1: There's a couple to pick but there, that's there. But
Speaker 1: they didn't lose two key starters, two massive injuries. Late
Speaker 1: In vander else vander Ish also broke his collar bone.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of stuff where you talk about,
Speaker 1: you know, okay, it's only week one, Well that's not
Speaker 1: just the only week one. I don't know when late
Speaker 1: In Vanderesh now it's going on a few years where
Speaker 1: he has these neck injuries, collar bones a little different.
Speaker 1: We don't know how long that's gonna be. Jarwin is
Speaker 1: a huge loss. And you're only as good sometimes as
Speaker 1: your worst starter. And they had an undrafted rookie Terrence
Speaker 1: Steele playing right tackle. He's he's scheduled to start the
Speaker 1: next few weeks too, because they're missing Lyle Collins at
Speaker 1: right tackle, and at the end of the game, that's
Speaker 1: who the Rams were targeting. And yeah, the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: talented enough to like get over it. But when you're
Speaker 1: coming in with all these things to be excited about,
Speaker 1: that that is a pretty big letdown of a week one,
Speaker 1: and those injuries are something you can't really get back.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think Dallas lost to a
Speaker 1: playoff team. So I you know, I don't want to
Speaker 1: hit the panic button there, but it's just disappointing. And UM,
Speaker 1: I will say one positive. I think Alden Smith, who
Speaker 1: I was looking back, I wrote, m a a t
Speaker 1: N tape study film a t N film room. I
Speaker 1: don't even remember this being a series in two thousand twelve,
Speaker 1: Um talking about how you know right that he just
Speaker 1: looked like this next version of like Charles Haley or something,
Speaker 1: and he's barely played for the past half decade and
Speaker 1: he comes in tonight, and I thought there were a
Speaker 1: couple of moments where you thought, this feels like, I
Speaker 1: know what's gonna go to Alex Smith? But Alden Smith
Speaker 1: looks like a comeback Player of the Year type guy
Speaker 1: to me. Um in his own right, you know, you
Speaker 1: said the Cowboys lost to a playoff team. You know
Speaker 1: that's new If that's how people are gonna be gonna
Speaker 1: calling and treating the Rams division going into this year. Well,
Speaker 1: they just have a good right now. It seems better
Speaker 1: than last year for the Rams. They seem to have
Speaker 1: fed some fresh before tonight. Before tonight, that was not
Speaker 1: the general vibe. And I think that this game really
Speaker 1: does quickly change the narrative around them, because this they
Speaker 1: looked refreshed, They looked re energized. I know West had
Speaker 1: been made a point this summer to talk about how
Speaker 1: he was interested to see how Sean McVeigh operated an
Speaker 1: offense not shackled with a over the hill Todd Gurley,
Speaker 1: and they were different on offense, and Chris Collinsworth made
Speaker 1: note of it repeatedly on the NBC telecast, how quickly
Speaker 1: they were getting the ball out of Jared Goff's hands.
Speaker 1: That was a issue for them last year, protecting Jared
Speaker 1: Goff with an older offensive line that was beat up. Well,
Speaker 1: now the line is in better condition. Rob Havistein's back.
Speaker 1: Everybody seems to be um on their game right now.
Speaker 1: On on top of it, McVeigh, because he's a smart coach,
Speaker 1: is now saying, okay, we know what Jared Goff's weaknesses are.
Speaker 1: Let's try to get away from those weaknesses as much
Speaker 1: as we can with with the bootlegs and out of
Speaker 1: his hands quick with the outs and the screens and
Speaker 1: the types of passes that weren't really a part of
Speaker 1: their attack if you years ago when they were bombing
Speaker 1: down the field with Brandon Cooks and company, so that
Speaker 1: there was a different looking Rams offense, but it looked good,
Speaker 1: including the running the running backs. If I played very
Speaker 1: well in this game. Yeah, and they no, like don't
Speaker 1: you think that you know less? Sneaed when he came
Speaker 1: on our show in June or something and we quizzed
Speaker 1: him about, come on, which one of these guys is
Speaker 1: gonna be the lead dog. Well, I think it's week
Speaker 1: to week. And they seem very married to the idea
Speaker 1: of a committee. There's also a sequence where Jared Goff
Speaker 1: throws an interception. Um, and that's why that's why I'm
Speaker 1: not too worried about the Ramsey call being a questionable call,
Speaker 1: because like that was a turnover where the refs completely
Speaker 1: missed the call. And so those are two massive calls
Speaker 1: that both you know, kind of even to other Aldon
Speaker 1: Smith the afore mentioned all this Smith clawbird golf in
Speaker 1: the face, which is a ten yard penalty and should
Speaker 1: have been a first down, right, But yeah, I'm saying
Speaker 1: that Golf nearly threw a second pick on the following sequence,
Speaker 1: which we'd be saying, we'd be a little singing a
Speaker 1: little bit of a different tune for the Rams. But
Speaker 1: I I'm with you. I think like you wanted to
Speaker 1: see something. The Rams got stale last year. I don't
Speaker 1: know how else to put it. They just seemed to
Speaker 1: run out of gas. And I don't have that feeling
Speaker 1: about them right now. So yeah, maybe I didn't see
Speaker 1: them and I didn't pick them as a playoff team,
Speaker 1: but I think we all we didn't think they were
Speaker 1: going to go six and ten. They seemed like in
Speaker 1: the mix and a very high quality start. It was
Speaker 1: one of the cleaner games on the Los Angeles side
Speaker 1: of all the football I watched today. They didn't seem
Speaker 1: to have some of the issues others teams did. Both
Speaker 1: teams look pretty good, I mean offensively that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: just couldn't finish. At least in the first half. They
Speaker 1: looked good enough. I mean Collins were set it. He
Speaker 1: was stunned at the quality of the teams, and I
Speaker 1: found that to be true. On balanced today, the quality
Speaker 1: of play was better. There weren't as many crazy catastrophic injuries,
Speaker 1: felt like a normal day of injuries. You're gonna have some.
Speaker 1: Um I'm not saying you don't need a preseason, but
Speaker 1: you don't like need. Really, you don't like need needed.
Speaker 1: They need the money and the young wrestle with this
Speaker 1: more than any person in the entire world. Greg, it's
Speaker 1: all you think about, whether we need preseason or not.
Speaker 1: It'll be It'll be um an easier August for us.
Speaker 1: I'm just uh, I'm just a self side. And while
Speaker 1: their people will say this sky is falling for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys and I could already picture of the hot Yackers
Speaker 1: tomorrow gross uh saying the end is near for Dallas.
Speaker 1: And yes, Greg, you made a good point that the injuries,
Speaker 1: it's a bad situation late in vander esh oh Man,
Speaker 1: he's one of those guys you just cannot stay healthy.
Speaker 1: But I will say this, I wish I could lock
Speaker 1: it up. I'd already predicted earlier that I need to
Speaker 1: go a little more ununy for my week to lock
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons have something nasty come their way when they
Speaker 1: come to Dallas a week too. I just put it
Speaker 1: on the board. That's thirty five points plus for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I I still feel they're gonna be okay, you're probably right.
Speaker 1: It is ironic though, that they wanted to get rid
Speaker 1: of Jason Garrett. I mean, I wanted to get rid
Speaker 1: of Jason Garrett, and you're placing with McCarthy who did
Speaker 1: the whole you know, um pr campaign. As Mark likes
Speaker 1: to point out how he's into the analytics now and
Speaker 1: the fourth down go for it is what got them
Speaker 1: a little bit here. I don't blame it though. I
Speaker 1: don't blame them though either. I think they knew they
Speaker 1: were going for it. That was it was a two
Speaker 1: place sequence. And I think you also, while you can
Speaker 1: question him going for it, put it somewhat on the players.
Speaker 1: There's five or six guys in the box. You're Zeke
Speaker 1: Elliott and you're the Cowboys and you're their offensive line.
Speaker 1: You get three yards on a draw that was probably
Speaker 1: not a bad play call, and then you throw it,
Speaker 1: you know, you throw it two yards one of these three.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, just the players didn't do their
Speaker 1: jobs either. Yeah, but you know this, I know this
Speaker 1: podcast very well. And Mike McCarthy was in a no
Speaker 1: win situation if Kellen, if the offense is great, Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore gets the credit. If the offense thinks, Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: gets to blame. That's how this show works. Well, I
Speaker 1: would say this, though I give Mike McCarthy in general,
Speaker 1: I would have been ready to jump all over him.
Speaker 1: He handed the offense over to Kellen Moore when everyone
Speaker 1: expected him not to do anything close to that, maybe
Speaker 1: not even retain Kellen Moore. So I'm not here to
Speaker 1: kill McCarthy. I'd us thought that that sequence just to
Speaker 1: me felt diabolical. You know, you got to get out
Speaker 1: of their tie in the game. Come on, I'm with
Speaker 1: you on that. I'm with you on that. All right.
Speaker 1: That is the end of the first of many flagship
Speaker 1: programs through the Around the NFL Podcast in season Week
Speaker 1: one Sunday is in the books. A reminder that you
Speaker 1: could check out this show if you want on YouTube
Speaker 1: where Ricky Hollywood is gonna do her thing and uh
Speaker 1: put that online. And we will be back with our
Speaker 1: next podcast episode on Tuesday, where we will recap the
Speaker 1: two Monday night football games and then do a little
Speaker 1: look back at Week one and look ahead to week two.
Speaker 1: The wheel goes round and round. We're spinning. We're spinning,
Speaker 1: all right. This is Dan Hanson signing off for the Mailman.
Speaker 1: Oh by the way he went to bed. He was talking. Yeah, uh,
Speaker 1: the old boss. This sizzler Ricky Hollywood from West Houlay.
Speaker 1: Still Tuesday,