Speaker 1: What up Fucker's It's Christina Hutchinson and Karin Fisher. You're
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Speaker 1: When I remember about having a baby, when my second son,
Speaker 1: when I was I think it was thirty one at
Speaker 1: the time, was that I was on a morning show
Speaker 1: and I had to be at a morning show at
Speaker 1: four am. I had to because it was a morning
Speaker 1: show six to nine, and I already had one child
Speaker 1: who was like three, And then I would be up
Speaker 1: in the night like nursing my brand my newborn, and
Speaker 1: then like heading out the door at three am, like
Speaker 1: i'd nurse, I didn't sleep. I would drive in the snow.
Speaker 1: You know. Anyway, that's that's the real struggle, that's the juggle.
Speaker 1: But how helpful was your husband at the time. During
Speaker 1: that was he what presentage of the work was he
Speaker 1: taking on? You guys are gonna hate me? See no, no, no,
Speaker 1: The answer is whatever is We're like, we're not fishing
Speaker 1: for anything, and uh, you know we're of course we're
Speaker 1: asking with a sassy tone, but we hope for your
Speaker 1: sake that we've only I haven't been touched by man's
Speaker 1: actually in seven months a lot, and my pressure of
Speaker 1: men in their attitude just lately is is very I
Speaker 1: don't I'm not a fan. So yeah, perhaps that was
Speaker 1: reflected in my tone. We were deeply affected by every listen.
Speaker 1: It is a very real problem. Actually, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you guys have heard of the book fair play, um,
Speaker 1: and I know neither of your mom's but for some
Speaker 1: of the people listening to might be. But there's a
Speaker 1: woman her name is eve rod Sky. She was on
Speaker 1: my podcast Naked and it got that episode got so
Speaker 1: much response because she wrote this book all about this
Speaker 1: very topic about you know, women do all the invisible labor,
Speaker 1: we're not compensated for it, we're not supported at home,
Speaker 1: and this whole she did like eight years of research
Speaker 1: on how men and women should split the labor and
Speaker 1: how things should have more of a balance at home
Speaker 1: or how however your partnership looks um about carrying the weight.
Speaker 1: So anyway, just for people to think it's a great
Speaker 1: read if you haven't. But I married a really my
Speaker 1: first husband was one of those, almost probably just because
Speaker 1: he's pretty controlling. He was gone, he liked to be
Speaker 1: in the middle of things. He liked to do his part,
Speaker 1: he liked diapers, he liked to take them to date
Speaker 1: here like he he was beautiful, great, he was really great.
Speaker 1: And I couldn't have literally couldn't have done my job
Speaker 1: at the warm for him. So okay, good, Oh that's see.
Speaker 1: I was hoping. I was hoping it would be a
Speaker 1: story like that, you know, not what I was expecting.
Speaker 1: So that's like, I think we need to hear more
Speaker 1: about men doing the work because I heard way too
Speaker 1: many stories about men not doing the work, and it's
Speaker 1: making me jaded and making me just want to be lesbian.
Speaker 1: And I know you can't pick your sexuality, but I
Speaker 1: needed to hear a story about a guy being good.
Speaker 1: So that's good. Yeah. We were deeply affected by a
Speaker 1: cartoon that was featured in New Yorker this week that
Speaker 1: it's a picture of a woman holding two grocery bags,
Speaker 1: one in either hand, the guys down on his knee proposing,
Speaker 1: and he says, hey, would you like to take on
Speaker 1: more responsibility? Is while my life remains largely unchanged, And
Speaker 1: it's I mean, it got a huge response when we
Speaker 1: reposted it on social media, and like I have thought
Speaker 1: of Christina sent it to me maybe like three days ago,
Speaker 1: and I just periodically throughout the weekend, I kept thinking
Speaker 1: of it and laughing because I was like so sad
Speaker 1: in part. Yeah, I mean, I mean, what, it's just
Speaker 1: one more thing to make us sad right now, right
Speaker 1: like even if the world wasn't burning and we didn't
Speaker 1: have a pandemic and everything else, and we did an
Speaker 1: election coming up and then and then we just strip
Speaker 1: it all down and go, yeah, sometimes guys are weal
Speaker 1: assholes too, and I'm all alone in my life? Just
Speaker 1: one more thing, isn't it fun? It's so fun? Did
Speaker 1: you ever get um? Because you guys would have to do.
Speaker 1: You are obviously around celebrities all the time, and they're
Speaker 1: promoting something. They're always promoting a movie or TV show
Speaker 1: or whatever. Then they're promoting did that ever get old
Speaker 1: for you? Like, because I could imagine, like I worked
Speaker 1: at UM, Like I've been like I go to the
Speaker 1: SNL parties and stuff, and you know, we're stand up somewhere.
Speaker 1: I know, like Michael Cha, he's not like big, big
Speaker 1: famous because comedians are more like level headed. But I've
Speaker 1: been around really famous people before and I'm just like
Speaker 1: just so interested. And then but then sometimes they're sometimes
Speaker 1: they're genuinely sweet and dumb, but sometimes they're mean. But
Speaker 1: then sometimes they're like really kind and brilliant, and they're
Speaker 1: people just like I know, I really and I and
Speaker 1: sometimes I do forget that. But like, how has your
Speaker 1: experience been like, um, because I imagine you can't ask
Speaker 1: them what you want to ask them on a program
Speaker 1: like the News, they're gonna feed you questions, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, UM, it's kind of like what you just said.
Speaker 1: I mean, what's interesting is UM did it ever get old? Sometimes? Yes,
Speaker 1: because it was you know, at the end of the
Speaker 1: day when you're doing that kind of program, you know,
Speaker 1: you could do a thirty minute interview and actually have
Speaker 1: a pretty cool conversation, but only two minutes of it
Speaker 1: makes the air, and it's usually anxious that that makes
Speaker 1: the air. It's the clickbait, right, like everybody's trying to
Speaker 1: get people to watch. So that was, you know, frustrating sometimes.
Speaker 1: But at the end the day, as far as celebrities go,
Speaker 1: in general, they are just like, I mean, some are nice,
Speaker 1: some are not so nice, Some are funny, some aren't.
Speaker 1: Some want to share and understand like that having some
Speaker 1: kind of connection, um makes for good TVs. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just it's just just by the way
Speaker 1: some people, you know, because I've worked in this town
Speaker 1: for so long, some people are really great and wonderful
Speaker 1: one night and the next time I see him there asshole.
Speaker 1: I mean, you just they also humans on their own
Speaker 1: lives so they can. And also if if somebody a
Speaker 1: stranger was trying to photograph my child, I'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're gonna meet my fist. Like I I couldn't be
Speaker 1: the terrible celebrity because I punched the pops all the time. Though, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true, that would get a good um when you
Speaker 1: uh divorced your husband, your first husband. Um. Because the
Speaker 1: other thing about with male celebrities, and it could be
Speaker 1: because I haven't been touched by man sexually in seven months.
Speaker 1: But they're really hot, Like really, the men are really
Speaker 1: fucking hot. And I if I got divorced, like I
Speaker 1: was with the guy for seven years, I'd never I'm
Speaker 1: gonna stand up. When we broke up, I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna funk all the comics I've wanted to funk forever. Um,
Speaker 1: when you got divorced? Where you like? Y'all? Muna hit
Speaker 1: on these hot dudes that I get to see every day.
Speaker 1: I'm still waiting for Brad Pitt, y'all. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: he is as hot in person as as we think
Speaker 1: he is. He gets older, he gets hotter. It's so unfair,
Speaker 1: isn't it. Um? It used to be Johnny Depp for me.
Speaker 1: He's yeah, he's good friends of Duck Stanhop Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: What's also weird is that the longer you live here
Speaker 1: and the longer you work here here, the smaller the
Speaker 1: circles get. And when you know people who know him
Speaker 1: and date him, and friends who I know far more
Speaker 1: than I should probably know? Yeah, are they do? I
Speaker 1: want to jump their bones? Did I? After my divert divorce?
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what was weird about after divorcing
Speaker 1: someone that you were with for twelve years. I think
Speaker 1: I was like my early thirties. I've met my husband
Speaker 1: in college, like he had. You never had a slug
Speaker 1: phase really well, maybe a little in college, but but
Speaker 1: but it's been a while, and that's my biggest The
Speaker 1: thing I remember most about getting divorced after twelve years
Speaker 1: is big with the same person. Was I was petrified
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't remember how who have sex or hits
Speaker 1: or do anything. I was like, I feel that way
Speaker 1: right now, and it's only been a couple of months. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because like I have a bit in my stand up,
Speaker 1: I'm like, imagine one dick for seven years, You're like,
Speaker 1: that's my dick. I got that dick, like I don't
Speaker 1: know what I'm doing, and then you you're all alone
Speaker 1: and there's all these dicks walking around. You're like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I forget how to do it. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: comes right back though. It really good. And then I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is gonna be a fun little
Speaker 1: slut phase, and it was. I got it out of
Speaker 1: my It was wonderful. It's that's a really good timing
Speaker 1: because we are usually on this show kind of against
Speaker 1: young marriages are getting together younger, staying with like that, sweetheart.
Speaker 1: But if you do get divorced in your early thirties,
Speaker 1: that's your time. That really well, um really did, honestly.
Speaker 1: I mean I hate to say this, but it's true
Speaker 1: because you know my age. A lot of my friends
Speaker 1: are having children now right, and they're in the diaper
Speaker 1: stage and they're in the strollers stage. And I have
Speaker 1: two years ago. My youngest is going to be out
Speaker 1: of high school. And I like, good I time that, right, man,
Speaker 1: because I feel like I don't feel like I'm getting
Speaker 1: old and my life is starting to slow. I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm about to just slow up, like take off
Speaker 1: freedom travel. And your kids are old enough to like
Speaker 1: fully your kids are old enough to be fully formed
Speaker 1: humans that you can enjoy their presence, and then they
Speaker 1: go off into the world, and then you're young, and
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that is really good timing. It's it's really nice.
Speaker 1: I mean it was really I mean my twenties were work.
Speaker 1: I mean work, because I was, you know, a professional,
Speaker 1: I was working every day and I was it was
Speaker 1: a high pressure, you know, TV job, and then I
Speaker 1: was trying to raise do kids. I mean, I look
Speaker 1: back and I'm like, how did I even function? How
Speaker 1: did I function at all? Um? But but yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean now I'm so fortunate because I mean it's as
Speaker 1: stressful as teenagers are in their own way. Um, and
Speaker 1: it's a new kind of heaviness that comes with raising
Speaker 1: kids today that are older. Oh my god, have you've
Speaker 1: seen the social dilemma yet? I just watched it. Yes,
Speaker 1: need to watch it. Kill the internet or the social
Speaker 1: media is the devil, but we can utilize it in
Speaker 1: a like it. That quote about there's only two industries
Speaker 1: that call their users, uh, their their customers users illicit
Speaker 1: drugs and social media, I'm like, yeah, I saw that
Speaker 1: on your Instagrams and that's very true. Did you like
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