Speaker 1: Hey, fucker's what up? It's Christina Hutchinson and Karin Fisher.
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Speaker 1: Miss Peppermint. Yes, and if you're in Oklahoma City November nine,
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Speaker 1: Miss Peppermint, and stay tuned for tomorrow because you're getting
Speaker 1: two episodes of Guys We fun this week. There's a
Speaker 1: Halloween episode coming out and that one you don't even
Speaker 1: got to subscribe for enjoy. But I do want to
Speaker 1: tell about the best, especially the name of my new single,
Speaker 1: best Sex. We were listening to. Um it was this
Speaker 1: last relationship that I was in the first night we met,
Speaker 1: of course. Okay, so here's the deal I was in. Uh.
Speaker 1: I was I'd started in a new job, and I
Speaker 1: was flirtatious and kind of really needed some attention UM,
Speaker 1: and was really kind of infatuated with a coworker who
Speaker 1: kind of rejected me at the last minute in the
Speaker 1: at the eleventh hour, and that sent me into like
Speaker 1: a mental tail spin. We it was a big night
Speaker 1: planned and then on the way out the door, you know,
Speaker 1: cancel cald and really took the air out of my tires,
Speaker 1: especially for it in your life. Yeah, hello, I was
Speaker 1: like getting all together. I was like darling, So I was,
Speaker 1: I was all gussied up, nowhere to go. I was
Speaker 1: like flailing. I was like and I was also um.
Speaker 1: It was the entire situation was new to me, the job,
Speaker 1: the situation, everything was just new. And so I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know where to go. I don't have any friends.
Speaker 1: And so then I was like, I'm going to get
Speaker 1: on this app and swiped right and whoever the first
Speaker 1: person that swipes right is coming her. That was basically
Speaker 1: my mindset. So this guy messages me and we, you know,
Speaker 1: we trade a couple pictures like okay, get on over
Speaker 1: here because love isn't real and I hate everything, so
Speaker 1: just um and he came over. He gave me the runaround.
Speaker 1: Of course, he was like my um, he was he
Speaker 1: was late. He was like an hour late. I was like,
Speaker 1: where are you because you're about to get replaced Because
Speaker 1: you don't mean anything, and all you are a penis
Speaker 1: and you need to get over here because I'm already
Speaker 1: and I won't be ready in an hour and um,
Speaker 1: and so he an hour late and he's messaging. He's like, fine,
Speaker 1: finally on my way. I'm like, what's going on. He's like, my, my,
Speaker 1: my neighbor, my landlady or whatever has a raccoon, and
Speaker 1: I had to get the rac I'm like, this is
Speaker 1: midnight in a raccoon night. Honey, shut up and get
Speaker 1: over here, stot lying, and and so he came over
Speaker 1: and it was honey, I forgot all about that raccoon.
Speaker 1: It was. It was heavenly and what about it, like
Speaker 1: like the the physical track there was very it was.
Speaker 1: It's hard to explain, but like I think there's a
Speaker 1: lot in at least when when when as a trans person,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I think as a transfer Okay, I
Speaker 1: know it's a trans person. I think also as a
Speaker 1: queer person like gay folks, but and I don't know
Speaker 1: about sis hetero people, but I imagine so uh, there's
Speaker 1: so much mental stuff that goes on during sex, which
Speaker 1: is why I have these guys break down into tears
Speaker 1: because they're so weak. Uh. Um the first for me,
Speaker 1: sometimes sex is about unfortunately about reassuring who I am,
Speaker 1: um and red and kind of propping up my womanhood. Um.
Speaker 1: I hate to say that, but there's there's an element
Speaker 1: of that, and I think the same for my partners
Speaker 1: that I've experienced, Um that wanting me to do two
Speaker 1: perform in a way that feels more because across, more feminine,
Speaker 1: so that it can enhance their masculinity and vice versa.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, so and so. But if
Speaker 1: there's too much of that, then it becomes not about
Speaker 1: the connection. It's just it's just performative. Right. And then
Speaker 1: by the other token, we wanted to be vulnerable and
Speaker 1: open kind of down for whatever. I'll explore, you explore,
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. This encount was the perfect balance
Speaker 1: of all of that. It was wonderful and and afterwards
Speaker 1: and I'm still like, I was like, okay, the good
Speaker 1: swipe that I'm glad. Okay, you need to go because
Speaker 1: nothing's I hate everything. Like I was still in that
Speaker 1: mindset and he was like no, no, no, to know.
Speaker 1: Oh He's like, let's stay, let's cuddle, let's And I
Speaker 1: was like um, and we talked all night and usually,
Speaker 1: to be honest, I'm um, if it's just a you know,
Speaker 1: a jump off, I'm not really that. UM I'll talk.
Speaker 1: I'm talkative, you know, very general with giving information about myself.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not like you can find me on
Speaker 1: Pepper midto. I don't do that. I just say, you know, hey,
Speaker 1: I live in New York. I work in night life
Speaker 1: and um yeah, And so that's usually where I was
Speaker 1: with him. I was like, you know what, I actually
Speaker 1: made the decision. I was like, you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna let this conversation goes where it goes, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just be try that. And I did, and
Speaker 1: we were and we were together for a year. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, what a story when the levels of what
Speaker 1: you're talking about, because I do relate, like in the
Speaker 1: way of when I haven't had sex and so long,
Speaker 1: so I specially like understand it like the last couple
Speaker 1: of times I have had sex or distant memory. But
Speaker 1: it did make me feel like a woman in this
Speaker 1: Like I walk different after I have sex, my face
Speaker 1: rests differently, and it's like because I love I'm reading
Speaker 1: this book about um Honing in your psychic abilities, and
Speaker 1: they talk about, uh, you know, everybody has these these
Speaker 1: multiple sides to them. Every you know, cis gender women
Speaker 1: like we have. I have a masculine side that I
Speaker 1: love playing with and I love indulging in my feminine side.
Speaker 1: And it's not they're not the two aren't always you know,
Speaker 1: fifty fifty all the time, and sometimes it's and it's
Speaker 1: it's just really fun. But when the person sexually that
Speaker 1: you're having sex with has the same back and forth
Speaker 1: as you and it fits, that is the fucking If
Speaker 1: you could bottle that up, you be a billionaire. It's
Speaker 1: the best feeling in the world because you feel like
Speaker 1: you're it's like the safety of to be vulnerable, to
Speaker 1: come like you're a goddamn barnyard animal like and not
Speaker 1: be in your body or being your head, being your head,
Speaker 1: but rather be in your bod. It's the best. That's
Speaker 1: so what that good story? UM, kind of piggybacking off
Speaker 1: of that a little bit, and how you just were
Speaker 1: being very open and we appreciate that about you know,
Speaker 1: kind of meaning to feel sometimes like almost more hyper feminine. Um.
Speaker 1: Is there anything that you feel you've learn, like positively
Speaker 1: helps you or negatively, I suppose from having time presenting
Speaker 1: as a male in the world that you carry with
Speaker 1: you into now presenting as a woman. Because I often
Speaker 1: think like, would I know, would I navigate the world
Speaker 1: differently if I had had that experience? And or do
Speaker 1: you think about that? Or is that just like a
Speaker 1: past life that's dead to you? Um? It honestly is
Speaker 1: a distant I mean, it's so long ago that it
Speaker 1: basically is so distant and sort of a dead life
Speaker 1: to me. But um, I do have Um, I mean
Speaker 1: I would be I'd be lying if I said my
Speaker 1: life hasn't been affected by having been a signed mail
Speaker 1: at birth. Um. But I never there was never a
Speaker 1: moment in time you can go back in a time machine.
Speaker 1: There was never a moment in time where you would
Speaker 1: look at me and be like, that's that's a nice
Speaker 1: young man, a man a man Like never it would
Speaker 1: I'll be like, what's wrong with that girl? Like it
Speaker 1: was always that, you know, it was, it was there
Speaker 1: the whole time, and my struggle was like balancing you know,
Speaker 1: the inner with the outer. And you know that's kind
Speaker 1: of a really sort of very sort of trite way
Speaker 1: to put it. It's old fashioned. Um. But you know,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think that there was anything about
Speaker 1: me that was inherently very much or masculine or that
Speaker 1: commanded space as someone who was perceived as male. I
Speaker 1: rejected whatever was bestowed upon me. I rejected with the
Speaker 1: exception of obviously, you know, I had to go into
Speaker 1: the man's or the boys room to go to use
Speaker 1: the bathroom. There was no way around that. But everything else, honey,
Speaker 1: whether it was fashioned, whether it was the way I
Speaker 1: talked or moved, who I was connected with, what I watched,
Speaker 1: what I did, where I went, and where I wanted
Speaker 1: to be had nothing to do with like what all
Speaker 1: the other little boys wanted. And um, I remember walking
Speaker 1: in um uh one second. I remember walking in um
Speaker 1: to a boy to the boy Scouts because my mother
Speaker 1: wanted me to be and she was punishing me, and
Speaker 1: she wanted me to be in something after school, and
Speaker 1: so she signed me up to the boy Scouts. And
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't believe this. You're killing me.
Speaker 1: I felt like she was killing me because out of
Speaker 1: all the after school groups, that sounds like literally the
Speaker 1: worst wine. If it is going on, and just you
Speaker 1: want me just to be have you know, something to do,
Speaker 1: and you give me this in the woods. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't want any of this, and she
Speaker 1: signed me up and I felt like she was killed.
Speaker 1: I was like, Mom, you're killing You're going to kill me.
Speaker 1: It is hurting me, killing my spirit. Yeah, and she
Speaker 1: uh and she was like you're going And so she
Speaker 1: had me in this vile outfit. It was not cute
Speaker 1: and I don't even remember. It was honestly quite traumatic
Speaker 1: for me. We went to the meeting and I was
Speaker 1: crying the whole time going to the meeting, and of
Speaker 1: course we were late because you know, we're just late.
Speaker 1: And we got into the meeting and it was like
Speaker 1: a whole room of all these like little white um
Speaker 1: troops or whatever they're called. And I was like, I
Speaker 1: walked in and you know those scenes and horror movies
Speaker 1: when it's like like a vampire, like the Vampire's Layer
Speaker 1: and like the one human walks into the layer, and
Speaker 1: I just know that's what it was. And they were
Speaker 1: like and you're like, s did your mom seem I
Speaker 1: obviously stayed for the meeting. I don't remember what happened.
Speaker 1: I just remember I don't think I said a word,
Speaker 1: and I remember they were looking at me. It was
Speaker 1: just like the weirdest thing. I honestly don't remember what happened,
Speaker 1: but clearly I stayed honey. After that meeting, I got
Speaker 1: in that car and there was a power dynamic shift.
Speaker 1: I was like, which, I am never gone back there.
Speaker 1: I was like eight years old. I was like, I
Speaker 1: am never going back there again. Yeah, yeah, Like, oh okay.
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